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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. I'm just curious and I was told by

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Speaker 1: this last night by my Big Ten source. If it

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Speaker 1: basically comes down to Ohio State wins the Big Ten

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Speaker 1: their Final four. That's what it comes down to. The

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Speaker 1: only way you see something change is if Clemson loses

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Speaker 1: to Notre Dame, because my source said the feeling with

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Speaker 1: the committee is right now. Clemson, if they lost a

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame for a second time, would drop out of

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Speaker 1: the final four. By the way, Trevor Lawrence, the Clemson quarterback,

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Speaker 1: will join us on the program tomorrow. If Notre Dame loses,

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Speaker 1: the thought is Notre Dame still stays in, and then

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Speaker 1: it would be Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Notre Dame, and

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Speaker 1: But we'll discuss this a little bit later on last

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Speaker 1: night's Ravens Brown's Game. The third is scoring game Monday

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Speaker 1: Night football history, behind only the Rams fifty four fifty

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Speaker 1: one shootout over the Chiefs in twenty eighteen and the

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Speaker 1: Packers forty eight forty seven win against Washington back in

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three. It had everything, it had twist turns.

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Speaker 1: If this was a Hollywood movie, we would say that's

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Speaker 1: not true, that's fiction. But the Ravens beat the Browns

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Speaker 1: in a wild game last night, and John Harball after

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Speaker 1: the game said the game was stranger than fiction. Ravens

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Speaker 1: holding off the Browns in a game that well, you

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Speaker 1: had just about everything that you wanted. You had Marquee

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Speaker 1: players playing well. You had Lamar Jackson, Baker Mayfield going

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Speaker 1: back and forth. Jackson disappears in the fourth quarter, goes

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Speaker 1: the locker room, gets treated for cramps. Baker Mayfield took advantage,

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Speaker 1: gave the Browns the league. Jackson comes out of the

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Speaker 1: locker room two minutes to go long touchdown pass. Rounds

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Speaker 1: immediately come back, and then Justin Tucker hit a game

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Speaker 1: winning field goal final seconds. There was also a safety

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Speaker 1: because the line was Baltimore minus three turned out to

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Speaker 1: be a five point margin. This is why we see

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Speaker 1: these big TV ratings for NFL games, because you never

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Speaker 1: know what's going to happen. And last night was certainly

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Speaker 1: proof of that. Here's John Harball, the Ravens head coach,

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Speaker 1: after the game. They played a very good football game,

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Speaker 1: and we played a very good football game. It was

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Speaker 1: going to go down in history. So it's just proud

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Speaker 1: to be a part of it and really proud of

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Speaker 1: our players. Here is Baker Mayfield on seeing Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: I mean, his work ethic is unreal. It was like

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Speaker 1: the scene having a movie. You know, I hate that

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Speaker 1: for Trace McSorley praying that he's okay. But you know,

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Speaker 1: as soon as he went down, you could see Lamar

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Speaker 1: trotting back out on the field. It was, you know, jeez,

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Speaker 1: You're never gonna be able to stop guys like that.

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Speaker 1: He's just a great player. The saying goes, you can't

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Speaker 1: stop him, you can only hope to containing Baker. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna do it, then do it right. That's it.

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Speaker 1: Homage Dan um here is Lamar Jackson. He was. He

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Speaker 1: was wondering what you were wondering when he went into

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Speaker 1: need something now to help me get better real quick,

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Speaker 1: because this is a crucial game right here. You know,

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Speaker 1: to the back, got to Tuck. He was I'm helping

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Speaker 1: then I see him go down and I'm like, we

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Speaker 1: and I start running out there, Cal running with me.

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Speaker 1: It's fourth down and office brought block the tail off

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Speaker 1: and our guys have made great catches and we came

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Speaker 1: Golfers do this all the time. You'll see them hit

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Speaker 1: They're going to a porta potty. Twitter had a field

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Speaker 1: day on the final quarter last night, and Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: Jackson was telling the truth. But that was that was

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Uh. You know, Baltimore was favored,

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Speaker 1: so you can't be surprised at the outcome. I think

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Speaker 1: the number of points you're surprised. If my takeaway with

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Speaker 1: because that's a team that can't throw the football very

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Speaker 1: well and you allow them to score forty seven points.

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Speaker 1: I thought Cleveland looked good. That's the offense I want

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Speaker 1: to see. Baker had a bad interception, you still ran

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Speaker 1: a one and done in the postseason. They got the

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Speaker 1: one more of those games, you got ten wins, and

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Speaker 1: I think a Cleveland Browns fan would have signed up

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Speaker 1: in a hurry if you said you're gonna have ten

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Speaker 1: maybe Pittsburgh is resting some of their players in the

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Speaker 1: a wild card team. It looks like. As for Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: and you got a poll question for me today? Okay,

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Speaker 1: So Paul put forth this question and I think he's

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Speaker 1: trying to be snarky Okay, but I think it's a

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Speaker 1: great question. I think there's an obvious answer. If you

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Speaker 1: Ezeke El Elliott or Justin Tucker. What's the price tag.

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Speaker 1: Let's assume they're the same price. I know, for the

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Speaker 1: hypothetical a very good to very a good NFL running back. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I'm paying on a whole lot more for Justin

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Speaker 1: Tucker than I should if I'm paying him what I've

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Speaker 1: offense to add to your team? Well, Justin Tucker. There's

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Speaker 1: nobody like him in the NFL. That's pretty fascinating, though,

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Speaker 1: the same price. I still take Justin Tucker. Justin Tucker

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Speaker 1: Chubb is a wonderful player. But yeah, I'm taking Justin Tucker.

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Speaker 1: He's going to the Hall of Fame. Yeah, mccleman. See,

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Speaker 1: I would think Ezekiel Elliot, I'll get a million dollars

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Speaker 1: his ex corontract. Where Tucker's it's six million. But Nick Chubb,

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Speaker 1: So I think the value Chubb seems like. I would

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Speaker 1: There's nobody else. He's Marianna Rivera. When you go, okay,

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Speaker 1: usually win. You know. I think when when he misses

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Speaker 1: the guy who's actually not even considered a real football

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Speaker 1: I think because Zeke Elliott. I just don't think Zeke's

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Speaker 1: don't want a running back. I don't want a running

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Speaker 1: back with a high draft pick. I don't and certainly

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Speaker 1: wouldn't want to see Baltimore. Baltimore has an X factor.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland doesn't have that X factor, and that X factor

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Speaker 1: is Lamar Jackson. I don't know exactly what I'm going

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Speaker 1: a year ago, he can win the game for you.

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield to me last night that I was really

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Speaker 1: want him to get over his skis. I want to

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Speaker 1: play action, and I thought he did a pretty good

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Speaker 1: job last night. I don't I don't know if this

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Speaker 1: is the new and improved Baker, but like have you seen,

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Speaker 1: is there a maturation process? Going on here. Yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I have seen it in this offense, and I think

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Speaker 1: that's what the key is. I mean, in the first

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Speaker 1: game when they faced the Ravens, they were not ready.

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Speaker 1: This was not the offense that they were. They could

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Speaker 1: never have done something like what they did last night.

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Speaker 1: They couldn't have done it. Now they feel like they

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Speaker 1: can beat anybody, and I kind of think they can.

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Speaker 1: I mean, really, this is a team that if you

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Speaker 1: have that kind of an offensive line, that kind of

436
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Speaker 1: a defensive line, and those two headed monster running backs

437
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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, you know, running off the playoff action like that,

438
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Speaker 1: I think this is a very very dangerous football team.

439
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Speaker 1: And he has grown up in Kevin Stefanski's play action

440
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Speaker 1: based scheme. What are the expectations of this team this year?

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Speaker 1: You know what? I think they're I think they're growing

442
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 1: right now. I think now they can see and other

443
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: people can see. The country got to see it last

444
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Speaker 1: night that they pretty much can hang with anybody or

445
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Speaker 1: even beat anybody. There are very few teams that I'm

446
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Speaker 1: not sure that they can beat, now Kansas City. If

447
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Speaker 1: I had to make a pick for them to beat

448
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Speaker 1: Kansas City right now, I would pick Kansas City, But

449
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Speaker 1: there aren't many other teams that I would pick the

450
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Speaker 1: Browns to lose two in the playoffs right now, Yeah,

451
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Speaker 1: because I was wondering about that. When you have a

452
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Speaker 1: running game and a good defensive line, you can put

453
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Speaker 1: pressure on you know, the quarterback here that that travels like.

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Speaker 1: If you're able to do that, now I don't have

455
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Speaker 1: to blitz against Patrick Mahomes and I can run the football,

456
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Speaker 1: control the clock, and keep him off the field. I

457
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Speaker 1: know it sounds preposterous to say, but you know Cleveland

458
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: can almost take the blueprint that the Titans had last year. Hey,

459
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 1: just control the clock. You know, your defense isn't exposed.

460
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Speaker 1: Make him, you know, every time he goes out there,

461
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Speaker 1: he asked to score. I don't know if it's possible,

462
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Speaker 1: but those are the kind of teams that make me

463
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Speaker 1: nervous come playoff time because they can, you know, make

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Speaker 1: you have to adjust to them instead of the other

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Speaker 1: way around. Yes, absolutely, you're absolutely right about that. The

466
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Speaker 1: Browns can run the ball on anyone, and the Chiefs

467
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Speaker 1: have I think last time I looked, it was the

468
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Speaker 1: twenty third ranked run defense, So the Browns would be

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Speaker 1: able to play a little bit of that keepaway, I

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Speaker 1: would think. And then the other thing for them defensively

471
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Speaker 1: is that they did not have Denzel Ward last night

472
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Speaker 1: their best cornerback. They did not have Ronnie Harrison last

473
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Speaker 1: night their best safety. Now they hope to get both

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Speaker 1: of those guys back fairly soon, Ronnie for the playoffs,

475
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Speaker 1: Denzel maybe even this coming week. So the future does

476
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Speaker 1: look pretty bright. Is Baker doing any more commercials? You know,

477
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's making more commercials right now.

478
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Speaker 1: I think they did most of those before the season.

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Speaker 1: But I will tell you what he is funny. I

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Speaker 1: think that he rivals Peyton Manning in terms of just

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Speaker 1: his comedic timing. He's a really, really funny individual and

482
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Speaker 1: I really enjoy those commercials. I think they're hilarious. But

483
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Speaker 1: he seems serious though at every press conference. I don't

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Speaker 1: see any personality there. I mean, we see it in

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Speaker 1: the commercials, but he seems pretty serious. You know what

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Speaker 1: that is by design? He completely has toned himself down

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Speaker 1: in those press conference press conferences, except for when he

488
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Speaker 1: uses his pop culture reference that the other quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: the room are putting him up to. So when he

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Speaker 1: does that, then you know, he shows a little bit

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Speaker 1: of something. But other than that, you're right, he has

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Speaker 1: been stone faced in those press conferences. We can barely

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Speaker 1: get anything out of him this year. But I think

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Speaker 1: that was, you know, that was part of the maturation

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Speaker 1: process for him. Hopefully he'll add back some personality one

496
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Speaker 1: of these days. Sent Wait, you're saying the other quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: on the raw, they give him like lines to insert

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Speaker 1: into press conferences. You know what, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: they give him the line or if he has to

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Speaker 1: come up with it himself, but that has been one

501
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Speaker 1: of the little games that they have going on this season,

502
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Speaker 1: is that is that he has to do that, and

503
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Speaker 1: then you know, all of a sudden you'll hear him,

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Speaker 1: you know, quote something from the office or something like that.

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Speaker 1: So well, i'd say, you know, as long as I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to cut down on being an idiot or

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Speaker 1: something like that was the line that that's his new philosophy. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's what that is all about. And you know that

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Speaker 1: was revealed in a pregame, in a pregame interview that

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Speaker 1: he did. So. But you're right, it would be nice

511
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Speaker 1: if we could get a little bit of, you know,

512
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Speaker 1: just some of that sort of fun Baker out of

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Speaker 1: him and hopefully he'll loosen up. And I think that

514
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Speaker 1: was a Kevin Stefanski thing too. I think he was like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, let's just kind of shut up a

516
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Speaker 1: little bit off the field and just put the blinders

517
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Speaker 1: on and get focused here. Mary Kay, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you Soon's good. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Mary Kay. Cabbott covers the Browns, Cleveland dot Com, and

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00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Plane Dealer. Be sure to catch the live

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Speaker 1: edition of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am

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00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: Eastern six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the

523
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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio app. He was on the broadcast last night

524
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Speaker 1: with Brian Greasy and Steve Levy. He's Lewis Riddick, who

525
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Speaker 1: was kind enough to join us on the program. Lewis,

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Speaker 1: let me start with this question. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Was this a good night for the Cleveland Browns. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it was, it was. And I know you know I said,

529
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Speaker 1: and I said last night, Dan, that there's no consolation

530
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Speaker 1: prizes in the NFL. You know, there's no moral victories.

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Speaker 1: But I think for this football team and for the city,

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Speaker 1: given the fact that this is a team that had

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Speaker 1: beaten them eight out of the past eleven games. I

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Speaker 1: believe it was right of the past ten games something

535
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Speaker 1: like that. And given the fact that the narratives surrounding

536
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Speaker 1: the Browns is really not a narrative. I mean, it's

537
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: the truth that they hadn't beaten anybody good. They hadn't

538
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Speaker 1: really stood up and really, given the quality teams for

539
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: saying in the NFL real good games outside of you know,

540
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 1: playing Tennessee the way they did the week before and

541
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Speaker 1: beating them, they needed to have a good performance. They

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Speaker 1: needed to have a strong performance. They needed to show

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Speaker 1: that they can compete for three three and a half

544
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Speaker 1: hours however long a game is gonna take and compete

545
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Speaker 1: at a high level and play an exciting brand of

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Speaker 1: football for really people to say that's not the same

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Speaker 1: old brown then, And I think they accomplished that. And

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Speaker 1: if you know, for a play here there for them,

549
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: not that you know, if it wasn't for the fact

550
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Speaker 1: that they went up against the ragning MVP, who quite

551
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: honestly put on like a superman like performance last night,

552
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Speaker 1: they wouldn't get that football game. And I think people,

553
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Speaker 1: I think people, if you really look at it, you

554
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: don't have any kind of grudge against the Cleveland Browns

555
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: and or aren't just predetermined to say, look the Browns

556
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Speaker 1: or the Browns and they're not They're they're not going

557
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Speaker 1: to be relevant again, and you would you would make

558
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Speaker 1: that kind of objective assessment. But this is a different

559
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: football team and keevinst the fantasy has them going in

560
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: the right direction. Assuming both make the playoffs. Who would

561
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Speaker 1: be the tougher out? Oh wow, Um, I would probably

562
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Speaker 1: still say the Ravens will still be the tougher out

563
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Speaker 1: because of the fact that Lamar is just so different.

564
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Speaker 1: He's such a difference maker and when his you know,

565
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Speaker 1: if if he's not able to really get it going

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Speaker 1: through the air, whether it be because he's not on

567
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Speaker 1: or because the wide receiver corps is letting him down

568
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Speaker 1: in many respects like they did last night for the

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Speaker 1: better part of the game, until you know, Mark and

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Speaker 1: Us and Marquis Brown makes them good big plays late.

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Speaker 1: I still think that they have enough on the offensive

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Speaker 1: side to give Every team is scared because of Lamar

573
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Speaker 1: because of how special he is just as an athlete overall.

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Speaker 1: And I think the defense, you know, they were down

575
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Speaker 1: to some players last night, particularly in the secondary, and

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Speaker 1: they started to cost them late in the game. I

577
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Speaker 1: think the defense is one where they'll be able to

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Speaker 1: ratchet it up and they will be able to make

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Speaker 1: enough plays, enough game changing plays in order to keep

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Speaker 1: them in it and give Lamar enough possessions to win

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Speaker 1: a football game in a single elimination type scenario. So

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Speaker 1: I'd give them the nod. Yeah, I would too, because

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Speaker 1: Lamar is one of the handful of players has that

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Speaker 1: it factor, and I think that the Ravens are going

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Speaker 1: to get healthier here over the next month. But if

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Speaker 1: I'm Cleveland's defense, what did they want Lamar to do

587
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Speaker 1: last night? What were they trying to get him to do?

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Speaker 1: Because I still don't know. Yeah, that's that's a great point.

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Speaker 1: It's a great point. What happened was, you know what's him?

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Speaker 1: They let him get every time every time they played

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Speaker 1: man to man coverage against their second against their wide receivers,

592
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Speaker 1: and they didn't have good vision on Lamar. That's when

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Speaker 1: they got themselves in trouble. When they played zone coverage,

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00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: played with good vision on him, kept him contained, so

595
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: to speak, in the pocket, and we're able to rally

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Speaker 1: to him because they had eleven eyes on him. Because

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00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: people were able to play with good vision. They were

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Speaker 1: relatively successful, so I think that that's what wound up

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Speaker 1: happening when they broke down. He doesn't give you much

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Speaker 1: margin for error, and he took advantage of them whenever

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Speaker 1: they turned their back on him, so to speak. And

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Speaker 1: I said that a couple of different times last night.

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Speaker 1: Then anytime, he's making them pay every time they try

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Speaker 1: to make him pay by playing type man coverage against

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Speaker 1: him and seeing whether or not he could throw the

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Speaker 1: football against him, because he'll just say, hey, look, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe I can't get the ball where I need

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Speaker 1: to get it too right now in the passing game.

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Speaker 1: But what I can always do so I can always

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Speaker 1: take off and run and just gas you that way.

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Speaker 1: And he did that last night, and I think he

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Speaker 1: does that against a lot of people. He does that

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Speaker 1: against the majority people he goes against. Cleveland still has

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Speaker 1: some work to do, Dan, There's no question about that.

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Speaker 1: They still have some people some work to do on

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Speaker 1: the defensive side. Work. They'll need some more repayments, so

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Speaker 1: they'll need to add some guys this offseason. And remember

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Speaker 1: Denzel Ward wasn't playing last last night either, So I

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Speaker 1: mean there's there's still some work to be done. But

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Speaker 1: that's Lamar. Lamar has you you know, well, have you

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Speaker 1: start looking at your roster and going, man, what else

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Speaker 1: do I need? Are we not really good enough? When

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Speaker 1: he makes you look like that? Did you have an

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Speaker 1: idea what was going on in the locker room? Okay,

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00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: we weren't saying, you know what. I suspected that, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe it was you know, the players. Sometimes you know,

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Speaker 1: nates are called. Sometimes things just happened to where you

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Speaker 1: have to do what you need to do. I wasn't sure.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just knew this when the ravens kept

630
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Speaker 1: saying that he wasn't that there was nothing wrong with him.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't heard, he wasn't injured. Really, I thought, you

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Speaker 1: know what, it could be a wide range of things.

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Speaker 1: But I really didn't have any idea. You know, quite honestly,

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Speaker 1: when Trace mcsoley went into the football game and he

635
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: was throwing the ball with some good effectiveness, I was like, man,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be interesting. Maybe we're gonna see a

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Speaker 1: coming out party from Trace mcsorey right here and then

638
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: and then you know, he slips and you know, his

639
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: knee gets part of them going, what the heck is

640
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: going on? Then you see Lamark, I'm running back out.

641
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: H'm going this is this is just not this is

642
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: high drama, right, It was actually pretty cool how it

643
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: all happened. I just won't trace me soul. He's okay,

644
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: I haven't heard exactly what you know, the extent of

645
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: his injury, but I mean, lamarge hold us what he

646
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: called us, as far as what happened in the locker room,

647
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: they've never left to mean. The way he won that

648
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: game for him you know before, I mean he didn't

649
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: win it, but the way he set it up from

650
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: what a heck of a story of okay have you had?

651
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: How does that work? When you played yeah and you

652
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: have to go to the bathroom? Yeah, so how does

653
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: that work? You know? There there? I mean, I'm sure

654
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: you've heard stories man about I guess it depends what

655
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: kind of going in the bathroom you're talking about, all right?

656
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: If I mean, if you if you just have to

657
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: go number one so to speak, I mean some guys

658
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: then look, man, I played with guys who just go

659
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: in there, Pammy Mark flathis to talk about all the

660
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: time about the guys who would just going their pants,

661
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: you know, right, there on the sideline. I mean there

662
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: there was no there's no quorter potty or anything like

663
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: that on the sideline. So I mean guys that would

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00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: take to take matters in their own hands, and so

665
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: to speak, when it comes to something else. For me,

666
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: that never happened. I mean, that's the weird thing. In

667
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: all my years of football, Pop Warner all the way

668
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: to pros, I don't think in a game that ever

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Speaker 1: happened where And I don't remember there being a situation

670
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: where it became an issue for someone else. You know,

671
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: it was usually something that people took care of at

672
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: halftime or whatever. But I remember Rodney Harrison saying happened

673
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: to me. Rodney Harrison said that you just sit on

674
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Speaker 1: the bench, put a towel underneath you. And I have

675
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 1: never seen somebody do that. I'm telling you, I've never

676
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: I've never seen that. But that would that would be

677
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 1: while I would have known if that would have happened,

678
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: to believe me, man, I would have known, But that

679
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: this never came up. He's Lewis Riddick, ESPN Monday Night

680
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Speaker 1: Football analysts, former Pro Scout director or pro personnel and

681
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: a former NFL defensive back Do you hold any grudges

682
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: with anybody that you played against. Was there somebody that

683
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: hits you said something like it'll never go away? Uh? No, No,

684
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 1: I don't. Not not while we were playing, No, because

685
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: you know, but now like you No, No, I mean

686
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: there's nobody really that I would say that. I feel

687
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: as though, you know, I didn't even score with or

688
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: something like that. No, I don't. And the reason why,

689
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: honestly it is because I know that you know, that's

690
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: just the way football goes, man. I mean, sometimes you

691
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: get them, they get you. And I think the reason

692
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: why I felt I'm good with that is because as

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00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 1: many times have I got whacked and or hit or

694
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: beat or whatever it is, I know I gave out

695
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: my fair share, and I'm good with that, and I

696
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: kind of like it. I kind of liked it like that.

697
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: I never felt like anybody hit me dirty or anybody

698
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: tried to injure me or anything more like that. So

699
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: it was I was good with the give and take.

700
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: Did you ever hit somebody and feel sorry? Uh? Yeah,

701
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: I think I think I did. You know we were

702
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: we were when I was a rookie in Atlanta in

703
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 1: ninety two in the preseason we were playing against Cleveland.

704
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: I was playing for Jerry Glenville then, and there was

705
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: a wide receiver who caught a slant route. Now the

706
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: interesting thing about that was I was groggy in that game.

707
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: You know, those were these were back in the days

708
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: before you know, there was like a real extensive you know,

709
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: checking on players who you know, maybe had had concussions

710
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: or what have you. And you know, I know I was.

711
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: I was not right in that game, and I wasn't

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00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: quite sure. You know. I had a couple of big

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00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: hits on Kevin Mack in the preseason, and you remember

714
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: how big Kevin Mac was, So I mean, every time

715
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: you hit Kevin Mac, He's going to kind of knock you.

716
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,479
Speaker 1: Screws this a little bit. And I hit this wide

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00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 1: receiver simply because I was just standing in the middle

718
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: of the field, didn't even know what the defensive call was,

719
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: and I just know the ball was throwing it. I

720
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: just sprinted towards his wide receiver and just literally, I

721
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: mean just hit him with all I had. And one

722
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: of our defensive backs I think his name was Frankie Smith,

723
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: was hanging on him at the same time, and I

724
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: knocked the wide receiver out I mean, he was out cold,

725
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: and I believe he wound up having you know, he's

726
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: suffered some kind of injury to his necker back. And

727
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: Frankie Smith, who was hanging on him in the corner,

728
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: who was covering at the time, his fingers got caught

729
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: between me and the wide receiver and it just obliterated

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00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: his finger. And I think that's the time where I

731
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: felt man, not only did I injure the guy, injured

732
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: one of my own teammates. To him, I wasn't even

733
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: quite sure what I was, you know, what I was

734
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: supposed to be doing at the time. So yeah, some

735
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: of those big hits like that, you feel bad afterwards,

736
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: but I mean that's just the way they're you know,

737
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: that's the way the game was, and that's the way

738
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: we played it, and that's the way I played it.

739
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: And you want to see guys get hurt. But it definitely,

740
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: you know, in the nineties eighties, you know, there was

741
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 1: a different type type of game, you know, back then,

742
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: especially when Kim came to collisions and high speed collisions

743
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: in the secondary. I mean they were a regular occurrence.

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00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: Do you know how that was? Well, I tell this

745
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: audience all the time, if you saw a game from

746
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 1: the sidelines, yeah, you would never let your kid play

747
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 1: that game because it is just I can close my eyes.

748
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: I went to a Giant's game and I was on

749
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: the sidelines when LT was there in that great defense.

750
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: I closed my eyes because I wanted to hear a

751
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: game for a couple of plays. Holy smoke show it was.

752
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: It was scary, Lewis scary. The sound, the images, the

753
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: sound of collisions. And I played with when I was

754
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, and then when I was in Atlanta too.

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00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: In Atlanta, I played with Scott Case, Jeff Donaldson, Jesse Tuggle.

756
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: Scott Case and Jeff Donaldson at safeties were pound for pound,

757
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: two of the toughest guy guys who ever played in

758
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: the NFL. I saw Scott Case leave his feet and

759
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: hit people and the sound that you would hear it

760
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: was like a like a bomb went off. I played

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00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: with Eric Turner in Cleveland. Eric Turner was easily in

762
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: that category of the you know, the late great Don Rodgers,

763
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: Kenny Easily, Ronnie Latt, Dennis Smith, those types of guys

764
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: who were just vicious, vicious hitters, vicious. And when I

765
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: played for the Raiders at the last year of my career.

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00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: I mean those were I mean when I went out there,

767
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: every time I was trying to hit people like like

768
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: George Jakinson, hit people like you know, love him or not.

769
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean Jack Tatum was probably the biggest

770
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 1: hitter of all time. And you're right when you're doing it.

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00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: It's not that you don't you don't really know how

772
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: just how vicious it sounds. But when you see your

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00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: teammates do it, and or if you're on the sideline

774
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: you see another defender do it, you realize this is

775
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 1: not for the timid man. It's not for the timid

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00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: at all. Oh, I'll leave you with this. The number

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00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: of teams that you honestly think can go to the

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00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowl in the AFC and the NFC. Let's start

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00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: with the AFC that you truly believe they could play,

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00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: they could represent their conference in the super Bowl. Yeah, well,

781
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: you know Kansas City can and they probably will. You know,

782
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo right now, Buffalo is on a mission and I

783
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: think they are going to be They're going to give

784
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 1: Kansas City all they want in a rematch type scenario.

785
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: And we know Kansas City ran ran over and pretty

786
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: hard earlier in the season. I think those those two

787
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 1: of the AFC are probably the ones who you legitimately,

788
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: legitimately say in all different types of environment scenarios. Those

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00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: those two teams can travel and they can play you know,

790
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: they can play you. However, I think the Colts are

791
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: sneaking because Chris Ball are starting to give him that

792
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: kind of you know, he's kind of building them in

793
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: that kind of image. Are you sold on Philip Rivers? No?

794
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, I think in the end

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00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: when you assess them, I mean, I'm sold on Philip

796
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: Rivers as a as a callity courts. I mean, he's

797
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: done great things in his career. I just don't know

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00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: if he hasn't enough guests in the tank to deal

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Speaker 1: with a team like Buffalo and Josh Allen, like Kansas

800
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: City and Patrick Mahomes. Those guys are special. Those guys

801
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: can make the difference. Philip can't be the difference anymore. Yeah,

802
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: and I think that's the difference, all right, NFC. How

803
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: many teams legitimately can go to the Super Bowl? Yeah,

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00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: you know, in a one off type of scenario. I mean,

805
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: I think I think you probably have to count out

806
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: the teams in the NFC East only because you know,

807
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: I just don't know if they're ready yet. Although you know,

808
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: teams like Washington and even the Giants, I mean, they're

809
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: showing a lot of grit here late in the season.

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00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: I just don't know if they're if they're ready to

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00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: contend with the Packers, because you know, Aaron is just

812
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: that's special on him. Him and Matt la Floor had

813
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: it going on. So that's one of them. You know,

814
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: the Saints are gonna be there despite the egg they

815
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: basically laid against Philadelphia last week. You know they're gonna

816
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: be there because they can do it all offensively and defensively,

817
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: especially when Drew's healthy. Tampa, I'm not so sure, man,

818
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: anymore about Tampa, I just don't know. I mean, Bruce

819
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: says he can that they can do whatever the hell

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00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: they want, quote unquote. As far as their identity offensively,

821
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: I'm just not so sure. But they gotta win three

822
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: games on the road, though Lewis they're not gonna have

823
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: home field advantage exactly. But you know, I mean a

824
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: lot of people in the NFL believe home field advantage

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00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything, and I guess it depends where they

826
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: have to go, especially in this in this pandemic year.

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Speaker 1: I guess it depends where they have to go. If

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Speaker 1: they have to go somewhere cold weather, then maybe that's

829
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: the equalizer. But I don't think home fields the same

830
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: as it is. I really don't. I really don't. But

831
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: we'll see with them Seattle and then Seattle if their

832
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: defense can continue to come on. Yeah, and the Rams

833
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: too though. The Rams, to me, that's right, there's a

834
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 1: lot more in the NFCIENT, that's right. The Rams are

835
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: a down and dirty type team, great defense. Brandon Staley

836
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: is a great young coach, up and coming coach, be

837
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: a head coach very soon. And on the office the side,

838
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: when Sean is in that rhythm and Jared Golf is

839
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: in that rhythm with him, they will run the ball

840
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 1: down your throat with those backs that they have, and

841
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: then they'll gass you with that playoffs in passing game.

842
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: They are sneak. Actually, they're not sneaky anymore. People know

843
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: that Sean a basing coach and they know that they

844
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: have a solid football team. So yeah, there's a lot

845
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: more possibilities in the NFC. It'll be the Steelers at

846
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: the Bengals next Monday Night. Lewis, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate your time absolutely. Dan always love coming on.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. It's Lewis Riddick, a former defensive back. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure

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Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon

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Speaker 1: eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and

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Speaker 1: you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR

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Speaker 1: or stream us live on the Peacock app. Dan Wetzel

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Speaker 1: is a columnist for Yahoo's Sports and his latest column,

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Speaker 1: the headline is does the Ohio State Belong in the Playoff?

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00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: College Football Playoff Committee has painted itself into a subjective corner,

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Speaker 1: Dan Wetzel joints us, Now, why do you feel this way? Dan? Well, so,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of a nuanced column, which I know America

859
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Speaker 1: loves nuance at this point, and especially sports talk radio.

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Speaker 1: It's a place for that type of debate. I don't

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Speaker 1: disagree with the idea that Ohio State's one of the

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Speaker 1: four best teams, and personally, I would be pretty excited

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Speaker 1: to watch them play in the playoff. But there is

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Speaker 1: a process, and I don't know how we went from

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago where we're keeping big twelve

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Speaker 1: teams out because they didn't play a thirteenth game. They

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Speaker 1: only played twelve. It was a big deal. They only

868
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Speaker 1: played twelve games, and others leagues got a quote thirteenth

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Speaker 1: data point was the big bureaucratic term. Ohio State has

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Speaker 1: played five games. That's it, five games. They play six.

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Speaker 1: Four of those games, they'll have an off week before it.

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Speaker 1: They you know, they may be one of the four

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Speaker 1: best teams, but don't you have to play a season

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Speaker 1: to actually make the playoffs. It's like giving someone a

875
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Speaker 1: chance at the Masters from the forward, tis you still

876
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: gotta kind of you know, you finish the round? But

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Speaker 1: what exactly happened? So it's a it's a it's an

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00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: interesting debate because it goes completely against what they used

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00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: to do. Now we know this has basically always been

880
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: a subjective thing and they just reverse engineer or reason

881
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: on why they like this team or that one. But

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00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're going to come up with

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00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: on Ohio State other than hey, we just like Ohio

884
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: State because you know, when you're playing six games and

885
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: other teams are playing twelve, eleven, ten and may have

886
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: nine ten wins, it's you know, you gotta play. I mean,

887
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: we shouldn't reward it where the easiest way to make

888
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: the playoff is not play. I mean, it's a good

889
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: way to avoid losses, but at some point you have

890
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: to play the season. Let me give you full control.

891
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: You got full control to decide who plays in the playoff.

892
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: So what would you do. I'd expand the playoff off.

893
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:19,439
Speaker 1: But if I can't do that, yeah, I mean, we'll

894
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Speaker 1: see who wins this weekend. But obviously, if Alabama wins,

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Speaker 1: Alabama I think should be in either way. I think

896
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame should be in either way, barring, you know,

897
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Speaker 1: a fifty point destruction at Clemson. I think Clemson is

898
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Speaker 1: a team that you know they do have a loss.

899
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Speaker 1: But if you're talking about a loss a double overtime

900
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Speaker 1: on the road without your starting quarterback, that is a

901
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Speaker 1: I know it's a zero sum game we play in football,

902
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: but that is about as close of a loss as

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Speaker 1: you can possibly have. I think Clemson still has a

904
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Speaker 1: very good argument. I think if Florida beats Alabama, they

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Speaker 1: still get in. Florida at that point would have nine

906
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Speaker 1: SEC victories, which is the most of any school to

907
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Speaker 1: ever play, because normally you only play eight regular season

908
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Speaker 1: games and one conference game they would have they would

909
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Speaker 1: have nine. I don't think Florida is necessarily out of this.

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Speaker 1: They'd beat Alabama. I would take a team like that

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Speaker 1: because I kind of just maybe, even if I do

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Speaker 1: love what Ohio State represents and how good they could be,

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of more of a process guy, just the

914
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Speaker 1: way I think about it, and I look at and say, geez,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I don't know how I can

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Speaker 1: take a team with nine wins or a team of

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Speaker 1: six wins over team with nine or something like that.

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Speaker 1: But obviously, I think Ohio State's got a good point.

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Speaker 1: This really isn't a bash Ohio State thing. It's just

920
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Speaker 1: the Big Ten chose to do this. They chose to

921
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Speaker 1: only play an abbreviated season late with no wiggle room.

922
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Speaker 1: You know, the SEC is gonna get like sixty eight

923
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Speaker 1: or sixty nine of the seventy one scheduled games in.

924
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Speaker 1: You could do this if you spread out your season.

925
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Speaker 1: The Big Ten chose to do this, and so they

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Speaker 1: have a team they'll only have six wins. I don't

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Speaker 1: think you can just ignore that. I was wondering about

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Speaker 1: this last night, USC's five and oh they got twelve

929
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Speaker 1: title game on Friday night against Oregon. They'll if they win,

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Speaker 1: they'd be six and ozho. If USC had a recent

931
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Speaker 1: resume where they were one of the top five to

932
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Speaker 1: seven teams in college football, how would the committee look

933
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Speaker 1: at USC if they had this? They haven't been relevant

934
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Speaker 1: here in a while. But let's say they have six wins,

935
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Speaker 1: they won the Pack twelve, and maybe they were up

936
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Speaker 1: for a national championship time or two in the last

937
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Speaker 1: five to seven years. Would USC be knocking on the

938
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Speaker 1: doorstep of making the playoffs? My guess is yes. And

939
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Speaker 1: that's kind of the issue you have with this is

940
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Speaker 1: and I get it, this is a crazy year, but

941
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Speaker 1: this is why it's completely subjective. What is it about.

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Speaker 1: Let's put it this way. Coastal Carolina could go twelve

943
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Speaker 1: and zo. Okay, Coastal Carolina has they could go twenty

944
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Speaker 1: and oh, Dan, they could go twenty an oh, you're

945
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Speaker 1: not gonna put them in because you go out. It's

946
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Speaker 1: Coastal Carolina. Their recruits aren't good enough. We don't really

947
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Speaker 1: what is this uniform? Who are what Carolina? Are weaving? Coastaling?

948
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Speaker 1: What is this right? This is usc Us. We know

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Speaker 1: that uniform, we know that fight song, and they have

950
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Speaker 1: tons of great recruits. They have tons of guys that

951
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Speaker 1: are gonna go to the NFL. Their problem has been

952
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: not getting it organized in winning. So yeah, agreed, like, well,

953
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Speaker 1: what is it about us, Well, they haven't been winning

954
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Speaker 1: lately or all of a sudden, we're gonna go. Well,

955
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Speaker 1: some of these games are kind of close. How are

956
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Speaker 1: they fifteenth? They're currently fifteen in the rankings right coastal

957
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: Like you said, they go twelve and oh they're thirteenth.

958
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: They're not even close, but but we we move Iowa

959
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Speaker 1: State up because they're in the Big twelve. Well, the

960
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Speaker 1: Big twelve usually gets crushed in the playoff. Like I

961
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Speaker 1: don't think the Sun Belts can do a whole lot

962
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Speaker 1: worse than the Big twelve does every year. Uh, it's

963
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 1: it's it's all like it's not even consistent rank to rank,

964
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Speaker 1: and so you know, at the end of the day,

965
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Speaker 1: especially in a season like this, we end up with

966
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Speaker 1: like Alabama playing Oha No More Dame and Clemson playing

967
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Speaker 1: Ohio State on New Year's Day, like set off the fireworks, fantastic,

968
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Speaker 1: This is gonna be awesome, right, but if you care,

969
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: if you look at you d game into this thing,

970
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: you go and this is just I mean, this is

971
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: just ridiculous. None of this makes any sense. There's no consistency,

972
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Speaker 1: and they're just sitting there going, hey, we want these

973
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Speaker 1: four teams, and we're gonna find a way to get

974
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Speaker 1: these four teams. If they told me that upfront, Dan,

975
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Speaker 1: I would be fine with it. It's just they give

976
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Speaker 1: you the impression that dared a dream, but I likened

977
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,479
Speaker 1: it too. You go through the hazing part of trying

978
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 1: to get into a fraternity and then they don't let

979
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:27,439
Speaker 1: you into the fraternity. And so if you say, look,

980
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: Ohio State, we love them. That big fan base, Notre Dame,

981
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: big fan base, Clemson, big fan base, Trevor Lawrence, and

982
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 1: you got Alabama Nick Saban and they got pedigree. Okay,

983
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: I understand it, but don't tell me that well five

984
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: games that you passed the site test. I think, as

985
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: you mentioned in your column, the Titanic passed the site test,

986
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: Like this is silly. When we go, I don't know

987
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: if Ohio State's great because if you say, based off

988
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: what they did in their biggest game against Indiana, I

989
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,760
Speaker 1: don't think they were great. The Big Ten was horrible

990
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 1: this year, and now you got Northwestern coming up. It

991
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that I don't want to see Ohio State.

992
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: It's just I don't know how one team earns it

993
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: and another team tries to earn it. But they're not

994
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: the same. They don't play by the same rules. Absolutely,

995
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: and look at again, I don't think Coastal Carolina is

996
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: one of the four best teams. I don't really want

997
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: to watch Alabama play Coastal Carolina. But if there was

998
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: ever a year that a school like that should be

999
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: at least in the discussion, it's this year. Because their

1000
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: league was one of the only ones to play non

1001
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: conference games so you could check and see how they were.

1002
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: And they beat all the Big twelve teams. Louisiana, who

1003
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna play in their championship, get beat Iowa State

1004
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: by seventeen points in aimes, and it's just like, well,

1005
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: we don't care about that Coastal Carolina beatb Why these

1006
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: are the best games. And so if you at the

1007
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 1: end of the day said, look, we have a process,

1008
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: and hey, you know COVID Coastal Carolina snuck in on

1009
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: a loophole at least you go, oh, that's the process instead,

1010
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: which is like there is no process and you know

1011
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: we may get a better playoff for it. Yeah, stop

1012
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: with the two days of meeting sixteen hours and we

1013
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: have analytics and the proprietary data that you don't know about.

1014
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: That's what we're seeing. What data. Like you just want

1015
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: Ohio State in there, that's fine, just say it. I

1016
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Speaker 1: want Ohio State in there. This feels like the usual

1017
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: suspects with Kaiser. So say like this committee is Kaiser.

1018
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: So say, I don't know who they are and what

1019
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: they do, but there's some stuff that gets done there

1020
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,240
Speaker 1: and we'll never know what goes on behind those closed

1021
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: doors there. But if I said you could do eighteen

1022
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: playoff sixteen, playoff twelve six sixteen, I would do eight.

1023
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 1: I would have five automatic bids for the major five conferences,

1024
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: which I think would create way more excitement around the

1025
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: country and help spread the wealth out a little bit.

1026
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: Right now, for the last five years, no one's cared

1027
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 1: about the PAC twelve race. You would actually care in

1028
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: a given year if they're going to get in. And

1029
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: what we need to do is create more excitement for

1030
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: more schools, so the recruits spread out a little because

1031
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: what we have right now, it's basically about four to

1032
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: five schools that can win a national championship every year.

1033
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's Alabama, it's a Stay, it's LSU, it's Georgia,

1034
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: it's Clemson, and you know that's pretty much it. Actually,

1035
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: maybe Notre Dame can do it. But and if you

1036
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: look at the recruiting recruiting signing day is Wednesday, guess

1037
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: who your top five are? You know, there you go?

1038
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: So why not? Right if you're a kid, you're going,

1039
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: I don't I want to play for the title. This

1040
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: is these are the only schools to get in, So

1041
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 1: you want to spread it out. I'd have five automatic

1042
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: bids and then I have three at large. You might

1043
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: create something whearing the group of six the lower schools.

1044
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 1: If you reach a certain benchmark, you can get in

1045
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: and bring kind of a Cinderella story in maybe you

1046
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,919
Speaker 1: got to be undefeated, or you gotta rank certain height.

1047
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 1: But I think it would create a lot more excitement.

1048
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: You're just adding a game. If you look at all

1049
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: the stuff they used to say, well, we can't, we

1050
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 1: can't do it because we can't play games in December

1051
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: because of finals. I mean like Rutgers in Nebraska are

1052
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: playing on Friday afternoon. Okay, that's out the window. You know,

1053
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: the sanctity of the Rose Bowl. There ain't gonna be

1054
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: a Rose Bowl this year. There's a good chance of

1055
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: a Rose Bowl. There just gonna move the game. You

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Speaker 1: can totally do it. You'll make more money what y'all need,

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00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: and you can you can set this up. I just

1058
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: think it'd be a much more exciting and it'd be

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00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: better for the regular season and the overall health of

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00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: college football is the one thing. It's a wonderful sport.

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00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: I love it, but it is the same suspects every

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00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 1: single year because, unlike the NFL, the worst team doesn't

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00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: get the best draft pick. The worst team gets the

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00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,439
Speaker 1: worst draft pick. The best team gets the best draft picks.

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00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: So it never ends. Jim Harball seems to be safe

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00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: at Michigan right feels like Tim Harbaugh seems if he

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00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: wants to return, he will be able to return. You know,

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00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: thinking at Michigan all along from ward manual is that

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00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: you know, one bad year is one bad year. Brian

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00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: Kelly had a four win season a couple of years ago,

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00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 1: and there they're gonna make their should make their second

1072
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: playoff appearance in three Mark D'Antonio has had bad years

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00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: in Michigan State, come back. It happens right with a

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00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: great coach. Now, I don't know that Jim Harball has

1075
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: done what Brian Kelly has done a notre dame, but

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00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: he certainly has earned that trust within the Michigan family.

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00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: Gotta remember his dad was a longtime coach. He's an

1078
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: ann Arbor guy. He played there for boh He you know,

1079
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: has done a good job. Not he hasn't beating Ohio State,

1080
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: but it's really hard to beat Ohio State. But he's

1081
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: done a good at a good job there. You're not

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00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: having like a bunch of arrests or problems with their

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00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 1: thing or anything like that. They have a good recruiting class.

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00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: So there is a patience at Michigan. And what's kind

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00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: of funny is in the world of college football that

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00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: patience is viewed as insanity, Like what do you mean

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00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 1: you're patient? And like, look, we still got like an

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00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: alum who's a Super Bowl winning coach. You got well

1089
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 1: nine games last year. Yeah, it's not that bad. We'll

1090
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: give him one more season. It was covid all that

1091
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,919
Speaker 1: people are like, you're absolutely crazy. You're nuts, and so

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00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 1: that's where we're at. That's part of the fun of

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00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: college football too. But yeah, he'll be back, and but

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00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: next year he has to. He's got a very good

1095
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 1: quarterback coming in out of the high school ranks. Got

1096
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 1: this kid, Kaid mc namara showed a little bit of

1097
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: promise before getting hurt. He needs a quarterback desperately. He

1098
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: hasn't had a quarterback in ann Arbor. That's been surprising,

1099
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: and that's been their number one problem. And that's what's amazing.

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Speaker 1: This is a guy who played quarterback at a high

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00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 1: level in the NFL and he can't find a quarterback.

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00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: And it feels like there's so many quarterbacks. When I

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00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,720
Speaker 1: watch college football, usually what you lead with is who's

1104
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 1: the quarterback? And if you're successful, chances are it's because

1105
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: of your quarterback. And the fact that Michigan can't find

1106
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: one and Ohio State keeps churning out these first round

1107
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: draft picks, and they did it again this year with

1108
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: Justin Fields. I mean, they just rub it in make

1109
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: it even worse there for hardball, But you'd think he'd

1110
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: have that ability to go. That guy can lead My offense,

1111
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: and he hasn't been able to find them. Oh State

1112
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: was so stacked with quarterbacks they kicked Joe Burrow to

1113
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 1: the curve. I mean, and this is what Michigan and

1114
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,720
Speaker 1: used to be. Tom Brady sat on the bench because

1115
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: you couldn't get on the field. I mean, Michigan is

1116
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: a quarterback school. Harbaugh didn't just play fourteen seasons in

1117
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 1: the NFL, and not as a super talented quarterback. He

1118
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: gutted his way through those fourteen seasons. He also coached

1119
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: Andrew luck in college coach Alex Smith in that pros.

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Speaker 1: He went to a Super Bowl with Colin Kaepernick and

1121
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: in an event of offense. Right, So it's not like,

1122
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: well he was he was Peyton Manning's coach. It's like, well,

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning's gut his own coach, right. No, he developed

1124
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: guys and max guys out. The number one thing I thought,

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Speaker 1: the last thing I thought would be a problem with

1126
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: Jim Harbow going to Michigan was they wouldn't have any quarterbacks.

1127
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: I thought they'd have a ton of him. Until he

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00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: gets one, you can't win, and he hasn't had one.

1129
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Speaker 1: And that's what's held him back. Now does that change.

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00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: We'll see, but he will. I think he will be

1131
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: back for one more season unless some NFL team comes

1132
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: in and says we want you. And there really isn't

1133
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: a lot of buzz on that right now. Dan, Good

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Speaker 1: to talk to you is always. And if I don't

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Speaker 1: talk to Mary Christmas, Happy Holidays, and we appreciate your time,

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Speaker 1: that's too. Miss Patrick. Talked to you soon, Dan wetzel Yah,

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