1 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: Good day, sweet world, and welcome to the Nodungks podcast 2 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: series film Session. It's Friday, July twenty second. We're here 3 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: in the Classic Factory and today we're reviewing the twenty 4 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: twenty two biographical sports drama Rise about Giannis Kumpo and 5 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: his family. 6 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: I'm j. E. 7 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: Skeatson alongside me as always got tasmellis. 8 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: What an intro from j D. I never noticed the 9 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 2: how of the woman eating popcorn? 10 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: Too much popcorn? 11 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 3: It says so much. 12 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: We got our top shot hot boy, Trey Kirby. Hey, hey, 13 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: making the magic happen over yonder our resident film critic JD. Hello, 14 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: there he is and our special guest today, all the 15 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: way from Greece. No, I'm kidding, joining us. Thanks to 16 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: the power of technology. He's in California. He's back like 17 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: he never left. It's Maddie. Oh oopshops, that's me. 18 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 4: Okay, you're on mute. 19 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, great. Here to disappoint people that thought Yiannis 20 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 5: would be on this podcast. 21 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: Well he could still pop in. You never know. 22 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 2: Sorry, I didn't reach out. I did not reach out. 23 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 5: I can't believe you didn't. 24 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: I didn't think I had the pull I'm underestimating myself, 25 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 2: I suppose. But he's on vacation. He's vacationing more than leos. 26 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: He is circumventing the globe right now. 27 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: You didn't reach out to Harris or Kevin or Paco 28 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: has his. 29 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 4: Numbers still No. 30 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: I reach out to Kevin and he said, I didn't 31 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: belong in the movie, so I'm not coming on. 32 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 3: He said, I'll show up five sixth of the way 33 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 3: through and get everything finished there right. 34 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: At the end. 35 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: Shout up to the stream team for joining us live 36 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: right now on YouTube. 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Okay, well, 46 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: we're pumped to have Mattio here to break down. Rise 47 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: released recently June twenty twenty two straight to Disney Plus. Okay, 48 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: this did not hit theaters, but it went to the 49 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: service Disney Plush director. Oh, I'm gonna apologize in advance. 50 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna butcher a lot of names here, but 51 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try my best. Director akin Omotosho a Nigerian 52 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: film director, writer and actor. This one stars in the 53 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: two brother roles there of Jannisinthanasi's We've got Uce and 54 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: ral Agata real life brothers playing the brothers, the elder 55 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: brothers at least in this movie. Yeah, that's sort of cool. 56 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: And then we have Dio Okanini and Yati Dai Badaki 57 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: as the father and mother respectively. And you're pretty prominent 58 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: roles in this movie. Your synopsis, you're a little breakdown. 59 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: If you haven't watched this, it's based on the real 60 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: life story about the family that produced the first trio 61 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: of brothers to become NBA champions in the history of 62 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: the league. So we all watched this over the last 63 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: week or so, including Mattio, and I just want to 64 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: start you with you. Matt what did you think of 65 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: Rise and what were your expectations heading into it as well. 66 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 5: Well, I had no expectations. And what I was concerned 67 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 5: about when you told me this was the movie that 68 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 5: we were doing, was is it going to be a 69 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 5: real movie? And what I mean by that is it 70 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 5: going to be kind of like Thunderstruck, you know, like 71 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 5: a vanity project that's maybe a money grab that is 72 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 5: like I don't think Thunderstruck was made by Disney, but 73 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 5: you know, a disneyfied kind of movie that's for kids 74 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 5: and is not super interesting, both tonally or aesthetically. So 75 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 5: that's what I was worried about, is this going to 76 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 5: be a real movie. Now the movie starts starts with 77 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 5: that sort of like grainy super eight footage of Giannis's 78 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 5: parents leaving Nigeria, you know, leaving their oldest son there 79 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 5: while they go to try to make a living in Europe. 80 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,799 Speaker 5: Then it has that scene of them escaping the police 81 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 5: in Istanbul, which is you know, legit some legitimate tension, 82 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 5: and you know, the cop walks in says, oh, this 83 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 5: place is such a dump, when it's like sort of 84 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 5: like you know they're living there, and then you have 85 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 5: that shot of them walking into Greece with the silhouetted 86 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 5: by the huge sun behind them. And anyways, I guess 87 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 5: I'm not going to go into a synopsis. All I'm 88 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 5: trying to say is at the start is like, okay, 89 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 5: this is a. 90 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: Real movie, all right, off a movie. 91 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, we've got ourselves a movie. And then about twenty 92 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 5: five minutes in, as soon as they pick up a basketball, 93 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 5: it became exactly what I was worried it was going 94 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 5: to be at the start. It is like a paint 95 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 5: by numbers. All the sort of tension just dragged out 96 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 5: of it. No punch, no oomph, no zets, yes uh 97 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 5: and yeah, which made it ultimately into somehow they made 98 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 5: a really boring movie about a person's or a family's 99 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 5: life that has all the stakes and all the you know, 100 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 5: rich thematic content you could want out of a story, 101 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 5: and just makes it about as bland as possible. I mean, 102 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 5: I'm sure we're going to talk about favorite scenes. I 103 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 5: don't remember a single scene from this movie past the 104 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 5: twenty five minute mark, and then before the end when 105 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 5: they go to the draft. 106 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: So wow, it never got you. Back then as soon 107 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: as the basketball started happening, you were you were tuned out. 108 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: I didn't even think there was that much basketball in 109 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: this movie either, right, Trade, Oh. 110 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 5: Well, don't. I don't want to make it seem like, 111 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 5: oh because they were playing basketball. It wasn't interested. It 112 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 5: was just some of the most boringly filmed basketball scenes ever. 113 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,119 Speaker 3: Trade, you agree, Well, I mean the most tense parts, 114 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 3: no doubt about it. We're at the beginning when Jannis's 115 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 3: parents leave Nigeria, and then when there's the raid where 116 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 3: they're live in Turkey as well, So no doubt those 117 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 3: are the most tense parts. But I'm I had the 118 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 3: exact same feelings going in as Matt, like this is 119 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 3: going to be a Disney movie because it's on Disney 120 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 3: and we do know the story of what happened, and 121 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: it feels like a Disney movie. Like what a unique 122 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 3: path to superstardom that Giannis has taken. Nobody has had 123 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 3: a story like this. But still I was a little 124 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 3: bit present pleasantly surprised. I had very low expectations going in, 125 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 3: expecting to hate this movie. Saying that it was a 126 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 3: real movie I thought was good. I don't necessarily know 127 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 3: that it has a lot of replay value for me, 128 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: but watching it the one time I was happy to 129 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 3: have watched it, task what do you think. 130 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: Yes, the most drama was at the beginning, I will 131 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: agree with that, and then the rest of the drama 132 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: was sort of dragged out, But there was drama throughout 133 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 2: the middle hour. I guess is what the big complaint 134 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: is here. The first twenty five minutes there was, yeah, 135 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 2: the deportation instances, and then there's multiple instances of him 136 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,559 Speaker 2: of Charles the dad possibly being deported because he doesn't 137 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 2: have his paper, and so that was very real rather 138 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: than very dramatic. The scenes in the immigration center where 139 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: he's got he goes I think probably three times throughout 140 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: this film where there were some cool shots. I like 141 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 2: the overhead sort of bird eye view in the immigration center, 142 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: a nice apotheche, if he will JD a very large apothechi. 143 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: But yeah, it became real rather than you know, the 144 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: the you know the real one two three punch of 145 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: the beginning, which which I was happy about because I 146 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: think it really real. 147 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 3: Jane. 148 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: It could have been super slow, it could have really 149 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: hit you over the head with a lot of Francis Attakupo, 150 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: their first son that they left. I don't think they 151 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: played on that too much at all. Uh, really and 152 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: you know one of the yeah, the moving scenes was yeah, 153 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: he's talking to his mom about it a little bit 154 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: later on. But yeah, yeah, it slowed down for sure. 155 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: Could it have been shorter, yes, but you know the drama, 156 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, him being deported throughout the movie. Uh, 157 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: and obviously the draft. You know, yeah, we could have 158 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: cut some stuff. 159 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 4: It wasn't an hour. 160 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: Fifty plus this movie. But I got to be honest, 161 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: didn't feel like it was dragging a lot in the time, 162 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: and I think some of that is credit to the actor, 163 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: especially playing the mom and dad, Vera and Charles there. 164 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: I thought they, I mean, they were really the movie 165 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: if we're being honest, and we'll get in I'm sure 166 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: to the kids they got to play honest and the 167 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: Nassis and you guys didn't even know they were brothers, 168 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: so I don't know what that says about their chemistry 169 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: and all that. But anyway, I thought the parents were incredible. 170 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying, Matt, though, Like, yeah, the 171 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: drama as it went on was like, you know, them 172 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: sort of fleeing the police when they're selling trinkets after 173 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: you know they're they're still they're just trying to make 174 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: a living. There was the whole like them getting locked 175 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: out of their apartment, and there was you know, there's 176 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: that there's like then there's this idea of like, oh, 177 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: you know, we have to stay together. Which agent are 178 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: we going with? There's that dilemma. These like these are 179 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: like they're they're not as high stakes for sure as 180 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: as the start of the movie, nor really should they be. 181 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: But Jadi Wall, let's get your sort of overhead view 182 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: of this movie to get in here. 183 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I agree with everything you guys are saying. Whoops, 184 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 4: that's not right. I agree with everything you guys are saying. 185 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 4: I agree with Matt that it's turned into it started 186 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 4: up really strong. The whole leaving Lagos and going through 187 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 4: Turkey and winding up in Spolia is harrowing, I would think, 188 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 4: I would say, even though that's not exactly what happened 189 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 4: to them, that's what happens to a lot of people 190 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 4: who are, you know, trying to leave one country illegally 191 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 4: and entering another one to look for a better life. 192 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 4: So yeah, I was, I was in right away. I mean, 193 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 4: let's be honest, I was in right away anyways, because 194 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 4: I've met Giannis, and I'd think this is the only 195 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 4: biopic of a person that I've actually met before, which wow. 196 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 4: And it actually leads up to about a four or 197 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 4: five months before Tass and I spent half an afternoon 198 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 4: with them, you know, so, Uh, I had a vested 199 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 4: a personal connection of. 200 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: The Were you hoping there was going to be a 201 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: scene where you and Tasks were being played by two actors? 202 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, I was excited to see my wh would 203 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 4: be playing me, That's right. But I also agree that 204 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 4: you know, it's at the end of the day, it's in. 205 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 4: It's a Disney movie. Uh. It inspired me enough to 206 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 4: want to learn more about Jannis's story, So I did 207 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 4: start reading mir and Fader's book Jannie Uh the Improbable 208 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 4: Rise of an NBA MVP. I believe it's called uh, 209 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 4: And there's just a way more to the story. And 210 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 4: the more I read that book, the more disappointed I 211 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 4: was with the movie. I mean, I thought it was fine. 212 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 4: I thought it was like a pleasant, a pleasant little 213 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 4: time waster, as my dad would say, And it was inspiring, 214 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 4: and uh, you know, but there could have been so 215 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 4: much more. There was so much more suffering that the 216 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 4: Antentakopos went through. There so much drama that was there, 217 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 4: and I think they missed a lot of opportunities to 218 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 4: show that on one hand, but on the other hand, 219 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 4: it's a straight to Disney Place movie and Jannis himself 220 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 4: is an executive producer on it. It just feels like 221 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 4: a love letter to his father, like a tribute to Charles, which, 222 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 4: you know, it got me, especially especially when we cut 223 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 4: to at the very end of the movie and we 224 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 4: cut to Jannis in his MVP speech and he's paying 225 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 4: tribute to his father, and it's just like, Yeah, I mean, obviously, 226 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 4: you know, I didn't know much about Charles Attintakopo before 227 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 4: this movie, or Veronica for that matter, So I enjoyed 228 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 4: it for that, but it was kind of boring and 229 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 4: they missed a lot of a lot of opportunity. 230 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 1: I thought, Matt, did you know about the fifth Antekpo 231 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: brother in Francis. Yeah, I mean I think I knew 232 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: somewhere in the back of my head that I knew 233 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: about him, but maybe I had forgotten because yeah, you're 234 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: it's a little confusing test too. I think you were 235 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: sort of alluding to at the beginning, like it's like 236 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: what kid is that? Which one is that? Because like 237 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: they sort of like they gloss over it, and I actually 238 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: liked how they did it because it was like, Okay, 239 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: then we come back to it and you're honest is 240 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,599 Speaker 1: like actually asking like where is he? Why did you 241 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: do that? So Matt, you sorry you didn't know heading 242 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: into this movie that there's there's Francis the older brother. 243 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: He played a little soccer and now he's a musician, 244 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: had some songs in this movie. 245 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 5: Actually, yeah, well but that's that's like a credit to 246 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 5: the movie that they didn't feel the need to over 247 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 5: explain at the start, Like you see them leaving, you 248 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 5: see them handing over the baby, you're kind of like, okay, 249 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 5: I don't fully understand what's happening here, and they reveal 250 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 5: it slowly, trusting the audience that like you know, it'll 251 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 5: come back around. They don't need to explain everything to you. 252 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 5: But you're talking about it being a Disney movie as 253 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 5: if like that's an excuse, like, oh, well, but it's 254 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 5: a Disney movie. But miracle, like the movie about the 255 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 5: Miracle on Ice is a Disney movie based on a 256 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 5: true story, so is remember the Titans, Like I'm happy 257 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 5: to be manipulated into like a tiered jerking go for 258 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 5: the heartstrings Disney movie. I just can't believe that they 259 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 5: couldn't find that in this story. I didn't cry once, 260 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 5: and I cry at every sports movie. 261 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 262 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 5: The only time I cried in this movie was Jannis 263 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 5: is a real MVP speech at the end. 264 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. Same, So what were the moments that they missed, JD, 265 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 2: that you got out of the book that they could 266 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: have depicted in this movie that we're a little bit 267 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 2: more dramatic. 268 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, great question. Tests There is a scene in the 269 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 4: book where it's it's not exactly when they first arrived 270 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 4: in America, it's actually when Jannie first arrives in Milwaukee 271 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 4: and Thanasis arrives with him, and they book in a 272 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 4: fabulous hotel. I'm sure, I'm not sure which hotel, but 273 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 4: they booked them two separate rooms, right, you know, And 274 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 4: the brothers were like, why why would you even do that? 275 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 4: Like why would you bother with? 276 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 6: How are we supposed to jump on the beds together? 277 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 4: Exactly? But not but tray, But not only that, though, 278 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 4: they ended up Thanasis moves into Jannis's room, and not 279 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 4: only that, but they sleep in the same bed, which 280 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 4: would have been. 281 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 5: You know, like a really great character moment, like exactly 282 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 5: pasted away when they get Tom Hanks, he's in the 283 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 5: bed at the end, and then the camera pans over 284 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:15,719 Speaker 5: and he's just lying on the floor next to. 285 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 4: The day exactly exactly. I mean, it wouldn't even need 286 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 4: any dialogue, but it's just like something visual, something something 287 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 4: stunningly visual that would just just illustrate how close and 288 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 4: tight they are as a family. And then of course, 289 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 4: you know, the assimilation into American life was not easy 290 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 4: for your honest you know, according to the book. And 291 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 4: I'm not saying that they should I know, yeah, I know, 292 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 4: like they had to make some choices here obviously, And 293 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 4: the point of it was he got drafted and that 294 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 4: completely changed the life of all of the intense coupos, 295 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 4: including Francis, and you know, at the end of the day, 296 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 4: that's what the movie is about. But that was That's 297 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 4: just one example of something that, uh, you know, it 298 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 4: just could have been better. And honestly, this book came 299 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 4: out last August, I think, and I think if they 300 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 4: waited a year and then and then had this as 301 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 4: a resource to to to adapt or whatever. I mean, 302 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 4: that could have been. 303 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 5: That's a great point. But I guess that also wasn't 304 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 5: the mission, right, I mean, it was like it's Janice's 305 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 5: it has two filters on. It has the Yannis producing 306 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 5: It filter and then it has the Disney filter on 307 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 5: top of that. But that's so disappointing that that would 308 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 5: have been a great scene because there is a scene 309 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 5: in the hotel room when they come to America, and 310 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 5: all you get from it is Yannas saying I'm going 311 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 5: to take the longest shower in the world, right, right, 312 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 5: which is Disney code for jerking. 313 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 4: Lots of it. Yeah, I mean, and that's what happens 314 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 4: when that water gets cut off, right. It's a callback 315 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 4: to that obviously. So do you think that that's what 316 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 4: Veronica was saying that you're honestly honest, you know, it's 317 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 4: like you're washing all of Athens off, I honestly to 318 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 4: be honest. 319 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 2: Maybe that's why he slept at the jem. 320 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 4: Sorry, where else is he gonna jerk on? He slept 321 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 4: at the Jem at the Jem. He slept. 322 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 5: Oh, That's that's why he was asleep in that scene 323 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 5: at the start. He got there to put some shots er. 324 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 5: I was like, oh man, I could use a line 325 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 5: day listen. 326 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 2: We also expected that we also got the jumping on 327 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 2: the bed scene, which actually did take place. That actually 328 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: did happen him and Finesse, and they talked about it 329 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: on the watch pod. That did like a three part 330 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: series on Yannis's draft Once Upon Time. The jump in 331 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 2: right was real. I am surprised that they didn't extend 332 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 2: it to the year because it is all about family. 333 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: That's the thing. Jenny said it it's this movie is 334 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: not really about Giannis, but it's about twenty fourteen letter 335 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: to Charles and his mom. 336 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: On twenty fourteen, the family comes over. He has a 337 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 2: year a season in Milwaukee where he's alone. Yeah, and 338 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: so I'm surprised didn't end with another huddle, another family 339 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 2: huddle right at the end in twenty fourteen when they 340 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 2: get the visas and they come over. That was kind 341 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 2: of surprising to me because. 342 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 4: Rising, honestly, that is a full movie like that, him 343 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 4: arriving in America and his first couple of years at 344 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 4: the Bucks is honestly, you could make an entire movie. 345 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 6: Oh definitely. 346 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 3: You even get the joke where they do like coming 347 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 3: to America joke when they finally arrive in America. Fish 348 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 3: out of water stuff would have been really funny to see, 349 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 3: and honestly, maybe the movie could have used it, because 350 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 3: now that Matt mentioned remember the Titans, I love that movie. 351 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 3: When it came out, there were many laughs and remember 352 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 3: the Titans, there were many like comical moments. I didn't 353 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 3: feel like there was a ton of levity in this 354 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 3: and you know, maybe some fish out of water stuff 355 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 3: would have been an avenue to see some jokes, and 356 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 3: it would have probably sped up the first half of 357 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 3: the movie to Giannis getting drafted. But you know, I mean, 358 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 3: you just kind of have to choose where you're cutting off, 359 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 3: where the rise stops, because like they could have just 360 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 3: kept letting. 361 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 6: Them rise, rise, rise until he eliminate. 362 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 3: It's the Phoenix suns and wins the championship with fifty points, 363 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 3: Like it was a pretty steady ride the entire time, 364 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 3: if he really wanted to keep going for it. But 365 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 3: I guess they just wanted the draft angle. Though I 366 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 3: would have liked some Milwaukee stuff as well. 367 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, would you how many jokes are in this movie? 368 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 5: How many like actual trying to make a joke jokes. 369 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 5: I think there's only one. 370 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: Okay, well, there's the Coming to America line, which they 371 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: really like. They just like slip. 372 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 5: It in there. 373 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: I think it's the good Morning my neighbors. That's like, yeah, 374 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 1: like very quick. 375 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 2: Uh just made another joke, no thing, but what do 376 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: you got this? 377 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,719 Speaker 5: There's the guy when the coach, their coach says, what 378 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 5: is a seventy six or a seventy six? 379 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? 380 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, I. 381 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 5: Think that's the only joke in it. 382 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: There's no joke when they're playing back. 383 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 5: There's other parts that I found funny, but they were 384 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 5: not jokes. 385 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I found everything to do with Harris. Harris, 386 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: Harris with one R. Everything about him I found funny. 387 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: And you were saying he's not a real guy in 388 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: real life. I mean, yeah, you obviously have agents that 389 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: helped him. 390 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 2: Out with two agents, but he had Maybe they just 391 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: wanted to make him one guy, and then maybe they 392 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 2: had an ode to two agents when they brought in 393 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 2: Kevin Kevin, which was the American counterpart to Harry's, which 394 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: was interesting. Yeah, maybe they just didn't want to have 395 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 2: two there, but yeah, Harry's had that that haircut was 396 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 2: a little you know, he's a little frumpy. I guess 397 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 2: it was the character, but yeah, I wanted Kevin to 398 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 2: introduce himself as Kevin Mignon. That would have been good. 399 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 2: That's my favorite Kevin of the last six months watching movies. 400 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: Another Disney it's another Disney movie. That's another Disney movie. 401 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 5: Kevin. 402 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, inselves like Kevin Mignon. 403 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 5: There's a real crossover with Rise and Rise. 404 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 2: Of Group exactly. 405 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: I was a little confused, Like I was confused. 406 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 2: It sounds like you're saying, I know, well, that's the 407 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 2: I think that's that's the point of Kevin. 408 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 5: Okay, that's. 409 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: I was a little confused. Like the loyalty they had 410 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: to Harris, like, you know, unearned, completely yeah, totally unearned. 411 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: No one would ever give him a shot. 412 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 4: But like and Harry stepped up. 413 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: We had like one minute, one minute with the family, 414 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: and then here comes Paco because he's like, okay, I 415 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: was wrong. Here's five thousand euros, here's your passports, let's 416 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: do this. And then they're just like, no, man, we 417 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: love Harris. 418 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 4: That guy. 419 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: He there's a guy named Kevin. 420 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 6: We get back and see Kevin. 421 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 4: He knows this guy. 422 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 6: I said him. I was with Charles. I was wanting 423 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 6: to sign with Paco at that time, no doubt about it. 424 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 3: But shout out to Vera and shout out to Jannis, 425 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 3: honestly being like, no, this guy showed us loyalty. 426 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: Okay, I guess he did, but it wasn't and a 427 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: lot of phone calls. 428 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 6: He said he called every two and that. 429 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 5: That was one of the only times that I did 430 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 5: laugh was when Paco says, you know, coming in with 431 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 5: his with his b d E and he's screaming, I'm 432 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 5: the number one scout in this kind. It was like, 433 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 5: first of all, your number one scout in Greece, which 434 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 5: it's not even the most popular sport. Is I one 435 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 5: of the most popular sport in Greece? The number one 436 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 5: scout in America doesn't walk around screaming I'm the number 437 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 5: one scout in this country. 438 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 3: I also thought it was hilarious when he said that, 439 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 3: to the point that I didn't know his character had 440 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 3: a name. You guys were saying Paco before the show started. 441 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 3: I was like, what you mean, the number one scout 442 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 3: in the country. I thought that's what I would say 443 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 3: in the credits for that guy. But you know, he 444 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 3: got his come up with at the end when Yon 445 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 3: has finally got drafted and he had to watch the 446 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 3: draft on the phone by his mansion. 447 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 2: What a loser it was on when he drove away, 448 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 2: he's in his bens, mister Paco, and you just saw 449 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: a windshield or a window with fingerprints on it. You 450 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 2: couldn't even see his face. It was just a window. 451 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: Jerry, What other things did you like about this movie 452 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: or the actors in this movie? If you want to 453 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: talk about the two brothers playing on a cent thanasis, 454 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: or like I said, the parent and sir what jumped 455 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: or nothing? 456 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 4: What did I like about it? 457 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: I mean, did you like Charles and Vera? 458 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 4: I thought that I thought they're They're obviously the heart 459 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 4: and soul of this film, Uh, Charles Charles especially Uh 460 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 4: but but but to Veronica as well, they uh just 461 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 4: holding it together, doing their best. The the the scene 462 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 4: with the bureaucrat uh in the epitheky uh was appropriately frustrating, 463 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 4: although I will say that uh a little line would 464 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 4: have been helpful to the plot, just basically saying Veronica 465 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 4: even says, our children are Greek, they're born here. So 466 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 4: the bureaucaut crat should have had a line that's that 467 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 4: that actually doesn't legally make them Greek, which is kind 468 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 4: of confusing, I think to a lot of to me 469 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 4: and a lot of American uh people, because you know, 470 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 4: if you're born on American soil, you are American. You know, 471 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 4: that's where the anchor baby term comes from, and that 472 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 4: is not the case in Greece. So it's it when 473 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 4: it gets down to the end of the second act 474 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 4: and they're trying to get visas and where the audience 475 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 4: is just going, okay, well but they're Greek, so who cares? 476 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 4: But that is not the case. So I think they 477 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 4: could have had a little bit more exposition there. But 478 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 4: I did like the bureaucrat. She was infuriating and frustrating, 479 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 4: and that's and that's what we wanted, you know. And 480 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 4: it's a it's a gorgeous movie to look at, like, 481 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 4: it's vibrant. It it paints Cepolia and Athens in a 482 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 4: in a beautiful light, but also to its detriment because 483 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 4: you're you're not really seeing the suffering that the attempt 484 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 4: coupos went through, you know, like hunger being one of them, 485 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 4: and I know that that's incredibly hard to portray. But 486 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 4: the first time we see the shot of the boys, 487 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 4: the all four boys, they're on a couch playing a 488 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 4: PlayStation and they've just and a massive meal. Well, according 489 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 4: to Jannis, they never had a TV. And he was 490 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 4: so guilt ridden when he got to to Milwaukee when 491 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 4: he bought himself on the like he bought himself a PlayStation, 492 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 4: he returned it the next day because he was so 493 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 4: racked with guilt because of that and and that kind 494 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 4: of thing. It's just it just really glossed over just 495 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 4: their struggle. Same thing with the Golden Dawn. Is makes 496 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 4: an appearance and it's like, okay, good, yes they should 497 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 4: be in this because this time, at this time, you know, 498 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 4: we're talking about a rise of one of the you know, 499 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 4: basically Nazis, a Nazi party is rising in Greece, to 500 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 4: the point where the year that he was drafted, or 501 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 4: close to the year, they got like seventeen seats in 502 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 4: the House of in the Greek parliament or whatever. So 503 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 4: I'm glad that they made an appearance, but I don't 504 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 4: think that we got a real taste of just how 505 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 4: there there was a lot of racism that they were 506 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 4: facing in a country like Greece and just how precarious 507 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 4: their situation was because of that, they literally had the kids, 508 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 4: especially had no nation. It's not like they were citizens 509 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 4: of Nigeria either, right, So you know when when Charles 510 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 4: is freaking out what they went to play basketball, it's like, 511 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 4: I want him in school and I want them where 512 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 4: I can see him because we could be deported, We 513 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 4: could be separated, and that would be a complete disaster. Obviously. 514 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: Anyways, all the just to imagine that was a crazy 515 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: struggle in making this movie, editing this movie of like 516 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: how dark are we going? How real are we making this? Oh, 517 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: this is a Disney movie. It's supposed to be like 518 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 1: what a story. It's inspiring, So they could be both. 519 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 5: Don't get me wrong, I'm sorry, but like Banby's mother 520 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 5: dies at the beginning, like you can you know, you 521 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 5: can show hunger without showing the true like really horrific 522 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 5: you know, physical and mental effects of it. It'll read as, Wow, 523 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 5: these people don't have enough money to eat, And I 524 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 5: think that's fine. But I mean a question for you, JD, 525 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 5: based on what you were just saying, or for for 526 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 5: the rest of you, were there enough villains in this movie? 527 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 5: Because there was Paco two scenes, the biggest agent in 528 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 5: the in the in the country. There was the landlord 529 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 5: R two scenes. There was the immigration lawyer or or 530 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 5: functionary three scenes, right, you know. There was one during 531 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 5: one game someone makes one racist, uh you know remark 532 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 5: to Giannis like, I don't know if they did a 533 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 5: good enough enough job of externalizing because obviously the villain 534 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 5: is the system, right, but I don't know if they 535 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 5: did a good enough job externalizing that to to show 536 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 5: to have conflict and to show what they were really 537 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 5: up against, except this vague idea that you know, they 538 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 5: could be deported at any time, right. So yeah, I mean, honestly, 539 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 5: that was a big problem with the movie for me. 540 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. I mean that there is no Paco 541 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 4: is felt like a note, right, Like it's just uh, 542 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 4: it's probably like exactly what you're saying, Matt is just, 543 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 4: h we need some conflict, We need somebody to hate, 544 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 4: somebody more than just the bureaucrat, more than just the system. 545 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 4: We just need a physical uh you know, uh uh 546 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 4: what do you call it? A manifestation? Thank you? Of 547 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 4: a villain? 548 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 2: Right? 549 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 4: And and he was such a caricature of a caricature 550 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 4: and uh, but yeah, I agree with you. It's uh. 551 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 4: I again, going back to my original point, I think 552 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 4: that we could have seen there there they're suffering a 553 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 4: little more. And the point about Bambi's mother dying spoiler alert, 554 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 4: everybody h is is well taken. And uh, and we 555 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 4: were talking before we still we fired up the cameras here. 556 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 4: Who is this movie for? I mean, because it's not 557 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 4: exactly a kid's movie. I was telling skeets that my 558 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 4: thirteen year old or fourteen year old now son watched it. 559 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 4: He he enjoyed it, but he's a big fan of 560 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 4: be honest, and they found it interesting. Okay, but you know. 561 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 2: So it's for him, I guess, I guess teens. 562 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, teen seems early young team, right to me? 563 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: Right, Okay, you agree with that? 564 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'd understand the sort of push and pull 565 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 2: of making it a little bit more heavy, but then 566 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 2: you're getting into, you know, the the adult. Yeah, it 567 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 2: becomes a little less about a kidd but I understand. 568 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,959 Speaker 2: And yeah, the hunger thing is something that again he's 569 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 2: always has referred to, even it sort of lacked how 570 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: you know, he was ostracized in his own country and 571 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 2: then he was loved in his own country. You know, 572 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 2: in twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, he's given the 573 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 2: papers and he is it's totally different. I mean that 574 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: that part I guess has left out because of timeline, 575 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 2: but also because of the tone. I don't think they 576 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 2: necessarily wanted to go that route. You know they went. 577 00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: They showed the sharing of the shoes, which you know 578 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 2: that I did enjoy that because they do talk about that. Yeah. Yeah, 579 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: and maybe maybe they didn't have a TV. It's totally true. 580 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 2: I guess they showed him at one time looking at 581 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: the Internet and time right now, the internet got time. 582 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, but I was worried the NBA dot com site 583 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 5: was going to crash them. 584 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 2: Thanks to shooting. 585 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: Magic Johnson footage was coming through pretty crystal clear. Yeah, 586 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: what year is this? I guess it makes sense. 587 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 4: Twelve guys twenty eleven. 588 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Test is right. 589 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 3: It's all about the fact that the movie makes a 590 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 3: big choice with regards to tone. This is going to 591 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 3: be an inspirational movie, all about the hard work you 592 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 3: need to achieve whatever it is you're gonna be the 593 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 3: family and exactly right, keeping your family strong together and 594 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 3: working for everything that that you get in life, because 595 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 3: this is, no doubt a good movie for a thirteen 596 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 3: year old to see, Like, wow, look at all of 597 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 3: the struggle that Yannis went through, even if we're not 598 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 3: seeing him confronting villains time and time again, just the 599 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 3: general sense of foreboding, not to mention the actual work 600 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 3: he's putting into his basket game to learn how to play, 601 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 3: him sharing shoes with his brother, him sleeping in the 602 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 3: gym so he can be the first one. They're all 603 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 3: of these different, you know, little scenes from his life. 604 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 3: It's all focused on look at how much he had 605 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 3: to work, and look at how much he did work 606 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 3: to actually get where he is. Look at the work 607 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 3: his dad put in to get Jannis and his brothers 608 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 3: where they are. So they chose to make an inspirational movie, 609 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 3: no surprise for a Disney movie, But like some of 610 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 3: these other movies that Matt's been bringing up, they've made 611 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 3: a choice to not just go down that path. And 612 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 3: it feels like Rise is focused primarily on the inspiration factor. 613 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: H Tess, what did you think of the basketball playing 614 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: in this movie? Especially our two main actors there, the 615 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: Yagada brothers, were they were they believable as brothers. 616 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so. 617 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 2: I think you know, it's tough, I mean, has to 618 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 2: become good. He didn't really become all that good. He 619 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 2: obviously was good enough to be drafted. But uh, it 620 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,959 Speaker 2: almost happens too fast his his rise mah from you know, 621 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 2: from two thousand and eight when he started playing basketball 622 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 2: to twenty thirteen, like that's he almost he almost got 623 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 2: too good too fast in a way. But I think 624 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: the actual basketball on the floor was believable. I didn't 625 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 2: mind how it was a you know, a dirty little 626 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 2: gym I feeld athlete. dCas is not a big program, 627 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 2: even though Matt says that basketball isn't appreciated in Greece. 628 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 2: That's what you said, Matt, That's what you said about Pacasa. 629 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 5: It's not the biggest sports. It's not the biggest sports. 630 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 2: So what if he's the number one scout of a 631 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 2: huge sport. That's something to brag about, Paco. 632 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 5: Okay, I'm the number one rugby scout in Canada. 633 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 2: Is that No, that's not kidding. Greece was the biggest 634 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 2: league outside of the US probably in that time when 635 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 2: they When he was watching footage, he was inspired by 636 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 2: bigger than Yeah. Back then, Yeah, Bigg're gonna say advance 637 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 2: five years ago. I was like two thousand and seven, 638 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 2: two thousand and eight. I'm talking about what do you 639 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 2: mean five years ago? 640 00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 5: It was ten years ago? 641 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 4: Wowen years ago. 642 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 2: But then it went downhill. Yeah, we had a little 643 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 2: bit of a problem financially that. 644 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 5: The team went bankrupt, right, the team that Paco wanted 645 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 5: to sign. 646 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 2: Him to, right right, Yeah, And then I did like 647 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 2: the scene where the check bounced and Charles was pissed. 648 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 2: I liked whenever Charles kissed his teeth. There was a 649 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 2: couple of Yeah, he was good at that, he was 650 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 2: good and I liked that. Yeah, and I like I 651 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 2: was a dirty little gym because we lead to Coast 652 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 2: doesn't have a huge program, so I was fine with it. 653 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 2: One continuity thing, English letters on the back of their 654 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 2: jerseys doesn't exist, but whatever, it was like great Greek 655 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 2: letters on the front, English letters on the back. It 656 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 2: didn't really bother me too much, but it is one thing. 657 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: Can you explain that the team that he was playing 658 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: for this was a youth team. 659 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 2: Like they have a couple Ricky Rubio when you hear him, 660 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 2: he played at thirteen years of age on one team, 661 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 2: like there's a youth program and then a large the 662 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 2: men's program. 663 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: Whatever you okay, okay, So he was on like a 664 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: like a feeder system. Yeah too, okay, exact that's what 665 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: I thought. 666 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 2: Exactly. 667 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: He had a travel a long way to play though 668 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: eighty minutes they said hour and twenty minutes. 669 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's something that I guess JD and Matter 670 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 2: hinting at that, like that struggle every day, not not 671 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 2: being able to eat, like they were starving and playing 672 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 2: basketball for a multiple hours. It's true, I don't know. 673 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 5: Okay. So so we saw there's no you know, there's 674 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 5: no really good villain like there usually is in a 675 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 5: sports movie. Was there a montage in this movie? 676 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: There was some small ones, I feel like some some basketball. 677 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: There definitely was a small basketball one. Would you call 678 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: even selling trinkets sort of? It was like a montage 679 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: feel to that. Yeah, when when they were being successful 680 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: or not. Yeah, but not a lot for a sports movie, Matt, 681 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: what you wanted more? 682 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 5: I wanted one memorable one, to be honest, like, yeah, 683 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 5: it could be him grinding hitting, you know, the alarm 684 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 5: clock getting up early. I'm just saying cliches. But again 685 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 5: to reiterate, I'm happy to have cliches in a sports 686 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 5: movie to montages in Hustle, right, yeah, yeah, Well actually 687 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 5: montage Hustle could have could have stood to like cut 688 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 5: cut them six minutes from one of their montages and 689 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 5: given it to rise. 690 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess there was the cliche playing in the rain. 691 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: Oh for a while, could have used the rain, could 692 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: have cut that. That was that was a classic. Well 693 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: this is we gotta do to do this in every 694 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: basketball movie. 695 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 4: It looks, it does look cool. But but but to 696 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 4: your point, tests, I mean, that's part of Uh, Yannis 697 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 4: was not that great when he got to the NBA 698 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 4: and he got good by working hard. And to Matt's point, 699 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 4: we didn't see the yeah, the the a dozen rye 700 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 4: eggs and they get up in the morning and like 701 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 4: we did see him sort of run up the mountain 702 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 4: and next to the acropolis there and do you know 703 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 4: that that was his version of it looked cool, but 704 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 4: we didn't see the grind and just how much effort 705 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 4: he put into Uh. 706 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 1: You're right, because we always saw like okay, just the 707 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: one bus ride you know to get there, you know, 708 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: the not a lot of basketball. As we talked about 709 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: like even getting better at basketball. It was a couple 710 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: of scenes where he's like shooting around, clanking shots. He 711 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: can't handle a double. Yeah, so a little bit of that. 712 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: But like I was even confused with you guys brought 713 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: it up a couple of times, like the sleeping in 714 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 1: the gym part. It was like he was just there, 715 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: like the one morning and then Taki's the coach is like, 716 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: you know what was Yeah exactly, I was tired, but 717 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 1: but yeah, I know what you're saying. It was only 718 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 1: just one of that, and maybe it would have this 719 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 1: movie would have been helped a little bit with the 720 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 1: classic montage that Matt's collin force give us a couple 721 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 1: of minutes of that repetitive like I want this more 722 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: than everybody else. 723 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 2: We didn't see the boat cruise, That's for sure what happened, right, 724 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:54,439 Speaker 2: We didn't see all we said. 725 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: Boat cruise a part of the honest story he took 726 00:35:58,960 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: a boat. 727 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 4: To famous both. 728 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I once had philip. 729 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 2: People can't people can't understand me today And actually speaking 730 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 2: of being able to be understood, I think Jan had 731 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 2: to compose accent. His actual accent is a lot stronger 732 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 2: than the actor that they chose, which is a good 733 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 2: a good decision. I think I think it's it was 734 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 2: easier to understand. I mean, I can understand. Yeah, it's 735 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 2: because we speak we're we speak the same language sort of. 736 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 2: But I you know, I think they made a good 737 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 2: decision there. But yeah, we didn't see him getting it 738 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 2: did seem like he got better at basketball pretty quickly. Uh, 739 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 2: And we couldn't see him eating a dozen raw eggs JD. 740 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 2: Because he didn't didn't eat Yeah, he didn't live on 741 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 2: a farm to get eggs. 742 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: Man, I just felt bad Matt for for that fanasis 743 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: in this movie. It's like this guy was the real deal. 744 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 5: He was also didn't know that I didn't know that 745 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 5: he was the promising prospect, yeah, the original and that 746 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 5: he injured himself. Yeah, well let's just because we're sort 747 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 5: of hinting at it. But to me, one of the 748 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 5: things that is like I cannot get over about this movie. 749 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 5: So you have a couple of scenes of him playing 750 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 5: in that club gym, which apparently is actually filmed in 751 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 5: the place where they actually played. So now he goes 752 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 5: to try out for Fieba. This scene, this scene is 753 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 5: probably one of the worst in the movie because he's 754 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 5: not doing well. Giannis is playing, he's trying out, he's 755 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 5: not doing well. The dad says, I can't handle this. 756 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 5: He goes outside. Now we cut to a slow motion 757 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 5: shot of Yiannis dunking with no one around him. That 758 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 5: looks like it could have been like shot in a 759 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 5: vacuum or just pulled from a completely different scene. And 760 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 5: then you have the Nazis run outside and tell the 761 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 5: dad he killed it. Dominated I'm like, whoa, what what? 762 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 5: You didn't think that that's something we should have seen? 763 00:37:58,719 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 2: Like that's fair. 764 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 1: But now, man, is there a reason where not there's 765 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: not that in the movie, like cause unfortunately our actor 766 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: can't really do that, you know, believe it. 767 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 6: I think that's exactly. I think the Nasi, the actor 768 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 6: of the play, the Nazis, he can. 769 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 4: Ball, he can ball. 770 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 3: He looked better as a player, like if you're playing 771 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 3: one on one between the actual two brothers. I think 772 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 3: the Nazis has taken us every time. Okay, it looks 773 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 3: a little out of his league, to be quite honest. 774 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 5: Trey, I did a little research and apparently that that's 775 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 5: the opposite. According to much really, He says that Rale 776 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 5: used to be better. Well, you see, it's interesting. 777 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,720 Speaker 6: Maybe I don't know, he got to try out for Feeba. 778 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 5: Well actually, okay, listen to the movies from the USA 779 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 5: Today interview with and Ral, So the interviewer says, for 780 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 5: you guys as brothers playing a different set of brothers, 781 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,839 Speaker 5: I'm wondering how that was for you. Was there any 782 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 5: characteristics of their relationship that you saw on your own? Says, well, 783 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,240 Speaker 5: I would say Ral's my older brother, and he played 784 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 5: the Nazis who would be my older brother. But other 785 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 5: than that, right, But he did say that in that 786 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 5: same interview, says that Raw used to be better and 787 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 5: then he kind of stopped playing and has has surpassed him. 788 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 5: But now that could be since the movies can come out, 789 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 5: I don't know. 790 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: Interesting, and he and he appears to be taller, just 791 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: like the real life brothers as well, so there may 792 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: be is that too. 793 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 4: My favorite part of that scene was they chose to 794 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 4: send Fanasis who was on crutches and all the way 795 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 4: killed it dad. When you have two little kids who 796 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 4: could just run out there, crazy. 797 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 5: Also weird that they just they repeated that beat two 798 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 5: times right, like he Dad's like I He's like, I 799 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 5: believe in my family the most out of anyone. But 800 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 5: then he leaves during the tryout, and then he also 801 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 5: leaves during the draft. 802 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough to watch. It's like nerves, the nerves. 803 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, sure, but wait just to follow that thought. 804 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 5: So then we have the fob thing, which is just odd. 805 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 5: We don't see him actually doing well. And then the 806 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 5: next time we hear about him playing is the scene 807 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 5: where PoCA comes in. Then they say they tell him 808 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 5: to screw off. Harris comes in and he tells him 809 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 5: his plan. He's like, you're gonna play for Spain and 810 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 5: they're like, well, is that is that smart? What if 811 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 5: we can't give visus And he's like, no, no, no, 812 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 5: you're not. You know, you're not going to sign this 813 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 5: contract to play in Spain. You're gonna sign this contract 814 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 5: to declare for the NBA draft. And I literally out 815 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 5: loud said what, Like I had no idea he was 816 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 5: at the point where he was good enough to declare. 817 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,800 Speaker 5: I was like, this is the part, this is this 818 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 5: part of the movie. Sure, We're going from not even 819 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 5: being sure if he can be in the EuroLeague to 820 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 5: coming to play in the NBA. 821 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 3: That the. 822 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:44,760 Speaker 5: Job of showing us the promise. 823 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get that in the movie, you're right, but 824 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 1: in real life this is somewhat similar. Like it was 825 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 1: a shock this guy that very few people had ever 826 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: heard of was going as basically a lottery pick. 827 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 5: I mean, no, no, but the shock was because the 828 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 5: people hadn't seen him play, and the only wig they 829 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 5: could find of him was like this grainy YouTube stuff. Yeah, 830 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 5: well that's but I'm saying it was a shock because 831 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 5: of that. In this case, it's a shock because we 832 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,879 Speaker 5: don't even see that he's good at all, and we're supposed. 833 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 1: To be trying to give you a reason why we're 834 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: not seeing him in this movie. And I do think 835 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: it's because, like, sorry, we got to try and find 836 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,280 Speaker 1: the greatest basketball player currently alive, but we need someone 837 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: to do that that's younger as well. Like it's like 838 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: you're asking a lot Oh it also helps if you're 839 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: like six', ten which you know he's not that. TALL, 840 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: Uj but, LIKE i just think that they made this 841 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,439 Speaker 1: decision like let's we gotta show. Basketball we gotta try 842 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 1: and convince you that he's becoming, better and then He's you're, Right, 843 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 1: matt it's probably a bit of a stretch to be, like, 844 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,399 Speaker 1: what this GUY'S mga, Talent even if it's a, reach 845 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 1: we probably didn't get there in the. Movie BUT i 846 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: just think it's because they couldn't with the. Actor that's 847 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 1: my guts is. 848 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,359 Speaker 2: WELL i think we're also we're looking at it from 849 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 2: the lens of twenty twenty, two when in twenty thirteen 850 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 2: there was a reason yet he there wasn't any good, 851 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 2: footage but there was real and there wasn't any good 852 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 2: foots because he wasn't that good and he was playing 853 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,720 Speaker 2: in a second tier league of the fortieth most popular 854 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 2: sport In, Greece SO. 855 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 4: I think that was a. 856 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,320 Speaker 2: Part he just wasn't that. Good so it was a, 857 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 2: leap AND i think we're looking at it from now 858 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 2: where it feels like a huge. Leap obviously this guy's 859 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 2: one of the best player in the. World but then it, 860 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 2: was you, know more of an incremental, leap but it 861 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:24,800 Speaker 2: still was a. Leap so it did come out of. 862 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 2: Nowhere harris came out of, nowhere and maybe that's why 863 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 2: he was the only guy WHO i mean that FELT 864 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 2: i guess that part is. Real there was two agents 865 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 2: that came up To yannis And, fanasis AND i guess 866 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 2: one was going to represent each and those guys were, 867 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 2: real BUT i guess there weren't a lot of takers 868 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 2: For yannisy And fanasis way back, Then so that part is. 869 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 2: Real it was a leap for. 870 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: Sure, well let's take our first break here on Film, 871 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: session break it Down. Rise when we come, back we 872 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: can continue to talk about our favorite moments of the, 873 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,800 Speaker 1: movie some of the perplexing parts of this, movie random, 874 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 1: observations and then we'll ultimately get to grading. It so 875 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 1: don't go. Anywhere we're right, back all right back with 876 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 1: Film session talking about the honest Movie. Rise it's available 877 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: to watch On Disney. Plus mattio is joining us From. 878 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 1: CALIFORNIA i see Dream shake here in the stream team 879 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 1: SAYING i don't like to hear there wasn't much of 880 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: the story that took place in THE. Nba what's the Point, 881 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 1: Dreamstick as we, said this movie is not about. That 882 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 1: that'll Be rise to Keep, rising whatever it's. Called this 883 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: is really it truly is about his family and making 884 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 1: it to THE. Nba like it ends the you, know 885 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,800 Speaker 1: On draft, night it ends him being drafted fifteenth overall 886 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 1: by The. Bucks what do you think of the guy 887 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:45,919 Speaker 1: Playing John hammond? Everything? Yeah who is that? Guy who's? Actor, 888 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 1: okay he's one of those. 889 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 4: Guys oh that Guy? 890 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 6: John? Yeah, yeah great great drafting By. John break down 891 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 6: this fast break for. Me, well the coach that he 892 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 6: wants in eight, SECONDS i can do it in. Five 893 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,840 Speaker 6: i've seen. Enough i'll see at the. 894 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 3: Draft best scenes for, me they all came like one 895 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 3: right after, another and it's basically When giannis is learning about. 896 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 3: Basketball it started for, me huge laugh at the reveal 897 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 3: going from like two thousand and four to two thousand and. 898 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 3: SEVEN i think The nasis is riding his bike and 899 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 3: he Has janis on the back on, pegs but then 900 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 3: in two thousand and, Seven yannis is. 901 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,320 Speaker 4: Like gigantic guy. 902 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 6: Riding pegs on the. 903 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 3: Back they end up playing their first basketball AND i 904 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 3: was dying laughing When yanni sketches the ball and he's 905 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 3: just holding the ball over his head and smiling and 906 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 3: laughing that. 907 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 6: He's the tallest one out. There they couldn't get the. 908 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 3: Ball they eventually go to the The internet cafe where 909 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 3: we See sophocles Short. SHIANAS i was excited to see 910 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 3: baby shafty and that it was cool to see them 911 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 3: like really geeking out at Watching hakeem Versus David. Robbinson 912 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,439 Speaker 3: LIKE i enjoyed that and that was all like within 913 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,800 Speaker 3: three minutes of each. Other, yep so that was that 914 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 3: was a highlight for. Me. 915 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,399 Speaker 2: Yeah sticking on the side his, angle there was When 916 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 2: fanasi's check was. Rejected AS i, Said charles kisses his 917 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 2: teeth and then we see a shot of the boys 918 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 2: in the bed And jannis has his head in his 919 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 2: hand and he's got the fingers sort of up by 920 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 2: his eyeballs and he's got huge fingers well. Casted those 921 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,359 Speaker 2: fingers were very well. Casted that felt that felt, Real 922 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 2: AND i like When David stern ended up Shaking gannis's, 923 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 2: hand the Late David. Stern that was done well you. 924 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 1: Know that was no sorry sorry that WASN'T i forgot about. 925 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 2: That that felt. 926 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 1: Real he looked pretty. Good, yeah, yeah, Uh Nora nora 927 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 1: mentioned that. TOO i forgot about. 928 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 5: That is? 929 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 4: That, no that's Not and speaking of the, fingers you 930 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 4: see the actor is always doing this, right like the 931 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 4: actor who Plays. GIANNIS i feel Like i'm. Blanking, yeah 932 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 4: like there. There there is this mannerism where he's always 933 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 4: sort of blowing on his, hands and he does that 934 00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,320 Speaker 4: a lot in the, movie And i'm like that that 935 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 4: kind of finds me Of. Vianni it's it's just a, 936 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 4: small tiny, thing but it really sort of brought him 937 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 4: to life in As jannis to me just. 938 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 2: Had his fingertips on this. Movie, yeah no pun. Intentity 939 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 2: he Funted John, hammond he made he made sure to 940 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,399 Speaker 2: give a little respect because all the all the other 941 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 2: executives were what was the seventy six ers when it 942 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 2: was like agent number, one. 943 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 6: Basically it was an executive sixers Executive. 944 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, yeah and then there was an okayc, one no, 945 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 2: name but Then Johnny Johnny hammond's got his name on 946 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:33,759 Speaker 2: there for. 947 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 1: SURE Jt plus has A i think a decent question. 948 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 1: Tasked did you hate the way they Portrayed? Grease there 949 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 1: was almost zero love that's FROM Jt plus in the 950 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 1: stream Team you career disagree OR i want to answer. 951 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 2: That, WELL i think they there wasn't a lot of 952 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 2: love For jannis to compo growing, up and so, yeah 953 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 2: it felt. Real it did feel beautiful J. D Because 954 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 2: greece is, beautiful but. Fair what's that? 955 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 6: Fair? 956 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 4: Yeah. 957 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 2: Fair but at the same, time there was a lot 958 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,880 Speaker 2: of there was. Scenic there was sorry overhead shots of 959 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 2: the streets In athens where everything looked dirty and, filthy 960 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 2: because that is Also. Athens there was a damn lot 961 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 2: of pigeons early in this, movie because there's a damn 962 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 2: lot of pigeons In. Athens, yeah, listen if if this 963 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 2: was a real doc about the things as as we've 964 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 2: said that he went, through it could have been a 965 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 2: lot uglier and the racism that he, saw as you, 966 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 2: Know matt brought up that one instance when he's on 967 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 2: the basketball, Court SO i could have got a lot. Uglier, 968 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 2: yea this is A disney movie and it got, disnified 969 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 2: but it could also have been a lot more. DISNIFIED 970 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 2: i think they did, Depict, yeah some of the non 971 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:47,360 Speaker 2: beautiful things About. 972 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 1: Greece, matt what were some well other THINGS i guess 973 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 1: that you disliked about this movie or made you laugh 974 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 1: for just random, observations we can jump around. 975 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 5: Here, well, definitely the Hardest silee left was when his old, 976 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,760 Speaker 5: coach when you, know they're all watching back In greece 977 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,320 Speaker 5: during the draft and gets drafted and he just like 978 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 5: says the least. Enthusiastically he, goes, yeah, man all, Right 979 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 5: by the, way it was Cool runnings and other Good 980 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:24,320 Speaker 5: Disney sports. Movie it's possible to make a Good Disney Sports. 981 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 2: And that guy's accent was it was coming. 982 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,800 Speaker 1: Up we're talking about the. 983 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 2: Coach, yeah it was a Little finger. Esque you, know 984 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 2: it was kind of, there it was kind of not. 985 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,320 Speaker 5: There, well first of, All, task speaking of, accents complete 986 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:44,319 Speaker 5: vindication for you Calling Jannis, Yanni like that's how you've 987 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 5: all you, know you don't you hear you hear analysts 988 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 5: call Him yiannis or you can Hear johnnie or. Whatever But, 989 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 5: task he's been saying it. Right no one else is 990 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 5: saying it that, way But task is. 991 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah I've i've Been americanized at times, too FOR 992 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,279 Speaker 2: i think there was a few years stretch WHERE i Went. 993 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,320 Speaker 2: Yanish but, yeah they call him at times in the 994 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 2: movie because that's his, uh his middle. Name, yeah so, 995 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,440 Speaker 2: yeah you kind of you have to, know you had 996 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 2: to know some. Stuff but the group of brothers to 997 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 2: pick up on. Everything but it was it was about the, 998 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 2: fan for. 999 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 5: Sure what else did you Hate matt because there's well 1000 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 5: let me let me give you a real who cares 1001 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 5: the guy that Plays John hammond in the. Movie first of, 1002 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 5: All John hammond the guy From Jurassic, park, right the. 1003 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 5: Owner so this guy in real, life his name Is Taylor, 1004 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 5: nichols and he was In Jurassic park. 1005 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 1: Three oh wow. 1006 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 5: Wow so that's just some. RESEARCH i just did imagine 1007 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 5: IF i had time to really look into, It no 1008 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:50,359 Speaker 5: telling WHAT i could. 1009 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 1: Uncovered, YEAH i was trying to, think, like what did 1010 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 1: he do In Jurassic park? Three no? Idea probably in a. 1011 00:49:55,160 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 5: Half it's a safe bed for anyone In jassic Probably. 1012 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 1: Samuel, OKAY I i uh to get us into some 1013 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:11,800 Speaker 1: random notes. HERE i did really Enjoy harris every, scene 1014 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,720 Speaker 1: mainly because it's like everything he DID i found, comical 1015 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 1: AND i think that's a big reason Why i'm, like, 1016 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:16,840 Speaker 1: wait why do? 1017 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:17,400 Speaker 2: You why do? 1018 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,400 Speaker 1: You why does this family trust him so? Much LIKE 1019 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 1: i thought they jumped to that really. Quickly but when 1020 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,359 Speaker 1: he pulls, up did you see his parking? Job when 1021 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,759 Speaker 1: he uh rolls in After paco takes, off and it's, 1022 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 1: like great, Time look where he. PARKS i don't Even 1023 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 1: i'm not sure even where he. Is he's still on the. 1024 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 1: Street it feels like there's a driveway there because that's 1025 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,839 Speaker 1: where they've been standing and. Talking, uh and we've seen 1026 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:43,759 Speaker 1: their car there before for crying out loud, Anyway, yeah 1027 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 1: just pulls it, up, Man i'm gonna park here and 1028 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 1: then walk all the way. 1029 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,320 Speaker 4: Over. Heah he kind of comes so much closer to, 1030 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 4: Them SO i love. 1031 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,840 Speaker 1: That and then sticking With harris at the at The nike, 1032 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 1: meeting which we haven't even talked. About, uh look at 1033 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 1: the size of his. Shirt it's in the. 1034 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,400 Speaker 5: Sleeves it is like A laddin. 1035 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: Slip he's so daggy in the sleeve AND i could 1036 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 1: not take my eyes off. 1037 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:09,320 Speaker 3: It. 1038 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: Uh in, fact that's me chuckling at the bottom. 1039 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,720 Speaker 6: Caption, uh you watch with close captioning. 1040 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 1: On Uh, NO i just grabbed the screen. GRIP i 1041 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,040 Speaker 1: didn't LAST i DO i usually do. 1042 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:21,360 Speaker 5: So. 1043 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 6: Yeah tas has been saying That charles was kissing his. 1044 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 6: Teeth he was actually clicking his teeth every time clicks. 1045 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:32,640 Speaker 3: Teeth that's. Cool my biggest concern with the. Movie they 1046 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 3: Showed giannis drinking a smoothie twice in this, movie. 1047 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,719 Speaker 4: Unforgivable hold on, though was it a? MILKSHAKER i think 1048 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 4: strawberry milkshakeh. 1049 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:43,719 Speaker 6: They should have explained, that. 1050 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 4: RIGHT i love the. 1051 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:50,799 Speaker 3: MILKSHAKE i love this strawberry milkship because BEFORE i guess 1052 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 3: it's before his first start with his youth club, there 1053 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,439 Speaker 3: and then when they come To america for the, DRAFT 1054 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 3: i think he has a strawberry, milkshakes but that they 1055 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 3: Looked the first one looked like a smoothie to. Me 1056 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 3: the second one looked like a. Milkshake but as we, 1057 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 3: Know jannis didn't get his first smooth until twenty fourteen 1058 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 3: in The United, states so you. 1059 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:11,839 Speaker 6: Know that was my main take. 1060 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,880 Speaker 4: Away they could have been in concern a tip of 1061 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:15,880 Speaker 4: the hat to. SMOOTHIES i did want to see a 1062 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 4: smoothie in his, movie. 1063 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:17,719 Speaker 2: BUT i was, like. 1064 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,239 Speaker 5: You needed a line at the immigration office of them, saying, 1065 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,719 Speaker 5: HEY i know your kids are born, here but that's 1066 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 5: not a lot In. Greece they're still Not greek. Citizens 1067 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 5: and then when he orders the, milkshake the guy handing 1068 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,759 Speaker 5: it to him being, like you, know or just one, 1069 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 5: milkshake you just show us it's not as, smoothie. 1070 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 1: RIGHT i did love the line WHEN i guess it's 1071 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,400 Speaker 1: the final immigration scene where they're actually getting the stamp 1072 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 1: to at least travel OR i forget what they're doing. 1073 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:51,759 Speaker 1: There but it's a new board of the draft right 1074 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,520 Speaker 1: to go to the. Draft and there's the whole thing 1075 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 1: where there's the weirdest photo of the woman's son playing. 1076 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 1: Basketball had it weird that wasn't then. 1077 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 6: Worked hard by the way he, Positions. 1078 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 1: Yeah and then he says only the best players are 1079 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:12,840 Speaker 1: chosen to play forward and she was, like, DAMN i 1080 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 1: like these, Guys, matt you weren't a fan of that. 1081 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 1: Scene what do you think of The nike scene? Too, 1082 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 1: MATT i thought that. 1083 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,279 Speaker 4: Was a LITTLE i don't have. 1084 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,920 Speaker 5: ME i guess his that was his moment to make 1085 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,880 Speaker 5: his big speech like why should anyone identify for? ME 1086 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,399 Speaker 5: i guess that was. DECENT i don't remember anything about 1087 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,000 Speaker 5: it other than, that to be, HONEST i just want 1088 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,920 Speaker 5: to talk about how luckily For giannis's origin story he 1089 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 5: found the friendliest street ball players in the. 1090 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:39,719 Speaker 1: World, yeah that's. 1091 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,480 Speaker 5: True imagine IF i saw some people playing street, ball 1092 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,800 Speaker 5: they were like, like, oh, yeah we need a fifth 1093 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,480 Speaker 5: like or fourth or. Whatever can you? Play And i've 1094 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,239 Speaker 5: never picked up a basketball for, it But i'm, like, 1095 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 5: YES i can. Play and then they passed me the 1096 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 5: ball for the first. TIME i just start walking with 1097 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 5: it and they patiently go oh, you, oh you have to, 1098 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 5: Dribble and Then i'm, like oh, Okay LIKE i, MEAN 1099 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,400 Speaker 5: i would immediately get kicked out of that. Game instead 1100 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 5: in this, game what happens is they're, like, hey you're pretty. 1101 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:11,319 Speaker 5: Good he's absolutely. Not you should come to the youth, 1102 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,760 Speaker 5: club like you should come ruin our games. 1103 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:18,080 Speaker 1: There, yeah But, matt you already said why that probably. 1104 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,880 Speaker 1: Happened why they were so. Nice, it's, uh what the 1105 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,719 Speaker 1: third or fourth most popular sport In greece according to, 1106 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,320 Speaker 1: You so they got to get all the players they can, Get, like, 1107 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 1: wow he's stopping playing soccer to come over here and 1108 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,759 Speaker 1: play a little basketball exactly what it would be kind, 1109 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:32,600 Speaker 1: like we. 1110 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,759 Speaker 5: Need a Fourth he's, like oh for this. Game they're, like, 1111 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,520 Speaker 5: no for for basketball in this, country we need. 1112 00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:42,319 Speaker 1: Four, matt you, SAID i think before we went live 1113 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,960 Speaker 1: that you did have some notes on THE nba draft 1114 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:49,840 Speaker 1: portion of the. Movie, yeah, yeah, yeah SO i. 1115 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,960 Speaker 5: Saw jalus's best available J billis's best available players that 1116 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,400 Speaker 5: where they're WATCHING espn at some. Point, yeah number One 1117 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,560 Speaker 5: ben Mackle, more number Two Neurlin's noel number Three Auto 1118 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,719 Speaker 5: porter or, Four Trey, burke number Five Tony. Bennett, yeah 1119 00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,759 Speaker 5: so all those, GUYS i, Mean i'm reading in My 1120 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 5: Tony bennet jokes Because i've sent to you guys. BEFORE 1121 00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,719 Speaker 5: i was, like what a tragedy That Anthony bennett was 1122 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,840 Speaker 5: such a bus that we couldn't get a chance to 1123 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:14,720 Speaker 5: make Any Tony. 1124 00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,239 Speaker 4: Bennach that's. 1125 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,839 Speaker 1: Fair luckily they made this movie so we could get. 1126 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:23,040 Speaker 5: Him, in photoshopped, him do it dueting With Lady. Gaga 1127 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 5: it would have been. 1128 00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,200 Speaker 1: Great, yeah but, this somebody had said in the stream team. 1129 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,560 Speaker 1: Earlier it truly shows you how shitty the two thousand 1130 00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:29,400 Speaker 1: and thirty draft. 1131 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,160 Speaker 3: Was like, WOW i laughed out loud when they Read 1132 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 3: Michael Carter williams the seventy six ers draft, Pick LIKE 1133 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,200 Speaker 3: i just hadn't really put it together at that, point 1134 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,080 Speaker 3: but that got a chuckle from, me as did the 1135 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 3: part WHERE i don't know it was Either harris Or 1136 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:48,480 Speaker 3: kevin is Like Dwhite, Bikes Deontay, GARRETT i THINK i 1137 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:50,400 Speaker 3: don't get drafted to make. IT i was, like all, 1138 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,720 Speaker 3: right that's one for The sikos right, There Dwight. BIKES 1139 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:55,720 Speaker 3: i don't even think we've said the Name Dwhite bikes 1140 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 3: in like five. 1141 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,239 Speaker 1: Minutes admit. It it's been a it's been a. WHILE i, 1142 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 1: UH i wonder What Neurlins noel thinks about watching this. 1143 00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,080 Speaker 1: Movie though he caught a stray in this, movie like 1144 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,640 Speaker 1: where they show him they're debating how high he's gonna, 1145 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 1: go and then like somebody just, says it's got to 1146 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,760 Speaker 1: be one of the. Agents he's got no offensive. 1147 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,320 Speaker 5: Game just bury. 1148 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,200 Speaker 1: Him it's, like you, know it's like we know the 1149 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 1: type of player he turns out to, be so of course. 1150 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:19,800 Speaker 6: You can do. 1151 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,480 Speaker 1: That oh, man Poor NEURLINS. Jd did you have a, 1152 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,560 Speaker 1: well what'd you think of like how they did the 1153 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 1: ending of the, movie like bringing in real footage from 1154 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 1: the draft and how they just handled all. 1155 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,560 Speaker 4: That, YEAH i, MEAN i LOVE i loved that. Part 1156 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,960 Speaker 4: and AGAIN i loved the going back to HIS mvp. 1157 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 4: Speech AND i, actually to be, HONEST i forgot that 1158 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 4: his dad, died and so it was actually a bit 1159 00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,120 Speaker 4: of a shock the way LIKE i. WAS i was, 1160 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:48,040 Speaker 4: like oh, shit, YEAH i, Forgot like and he was, 1161 00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,440 Speaker 4: young like fifty four when he died or. 1162 00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:55,160 Speaker 1: Something and those end credits, titles they were like how 1163 00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,360 Speaker 1: they like not slipped it in there the death of his, 1164 00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,919 Speaker 1: father but it was, HANDLED i thought really, oddly, yeah 1165 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 1: because it was all like Amazing, alex you know in 1166 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,520 Speaker 1: The league. COASTESS i, mean it's like incredible, achievement and 1167 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,440 Speaker 1: then the MUSIC i think like literally drops. Stop and 1168 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,160 Speaker 1: then it's like here's the slide About charles passing not 1169 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,759 Speaker 1: even seeing its REACH mvp, levels and then it was 1170 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 1: like back to like, uh you, know emotional but like, 1171 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,840 Speaker 1: inspiring kicking ass sort. Of it was just sort OF 1172 00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:23,880 Speaker 1: i thought that was just just. 1173 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,160 Speaker 5: Weird it was. 1174 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,120 Speaker 4: Jarring, yeah, yeah the darring is it was like a gut. 1175 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,760 Speaker 4: Punch was, like oh, shit like because you're like on 1176 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 4: top of the, world and then oh yeah he, died. 1177 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,520 Speaker 5: Damnit they also borderline make it look like that The 1178 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,000 Speaker 5: nazis And alex are as good As. 1179 00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,960 Speaker 1: Giannis yeah, yeah, yeah that's. Okay that's but they're they're 1180 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:44,880 Speaker 1: selling the movie On. 1181 00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:49,800 Speaker 5: Yeah but, okay here's a good example of Like disney 1182 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,440 Speaker 5: it up in a good, way right because after they 1183 00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,840 Speaker 5: READ i forget what it, is maybe the third pick 1184 00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,959 Speaker 5: or the fourth pick, there they are so, nervous they're 1185 00:57:58,040 --> 00:57:59,920 Speaker 5: like pissed. Off they're like what, no we're not going 1186 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,560 Speaker 5: to this. Team we're not going to that. Team like, 1187 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 5: Now yiannis coming over was like we've already, said like 1188 00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 5: almost a bit of a. Reach SO i can't imagine 1189 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,800 Speaker 5: they expected him to go in the top, five let 1190 00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,080 Speaker 5: alone the top. Ten AND i think a lot of 1191 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,600 Speaker 5: people said that he was a reach at. Fifteen didn't That, yeah, 1192 00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,520 Speaker 5: yeah in real. Life so there's a good example of 1193 00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,280 Speaker 5: their ratching it up the intensity by making it seem 1194 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,520 Speaker 5: like they're genuinely upset that he's not going, third, fourth 1195 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,440 Speaker 5: or fifth in the, draft and that's totally. Fine and that, 1196 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 5: scene that draft, scene aside from the beginning of the, 1197 00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 5: movie is the best part of the. 1198 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:33,040 Speaker 6: Movie. 1199 00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:37,640 Speaker 2: YEAH jd gave me a well actually today BECAUSE i came. 1200 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,000 Speaker 2: IN i, SAID i was kind of surprised that they 1201 00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,400 Speaker 2: didn't show that The Atombo. Bros actually went To atlanta 1202 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,800 Speaker 2: before they went To New York city for the, draft 1203 00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,520 Speaker 2: because they were welcomed here in the city Of atlanta 1204 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:53,400 Speaker 2: By Danny Ferry Mike budenholzer to, uh you, know Try 1205 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,040 Speaker 2: they they wined and dined him there, first and they 1206 00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,160 Speaker 2: were guaranteed to pick him where. 1207 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 4: They had sixteen seven TEAM i think they had, seven 1208 00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:06,480 Speaker 4: which was the supposed cut, off and they were absolutely. 1209 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,880 Speaker 4: One they were going to take him to the point 1210 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,480 Speaker 4: Where Danny ferry can't even talk about it till this, 1211 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,760 Speaker 4: day like he's he's upset about. 1212 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,640 Speaker 2: It so he brought up a good point that if 1213 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,040 Speaker 2: they actually included that in the, movie then there wouldn't 1214 00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,080 Speaker 2: have been that tension of him being right, drafted right. 1215 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:21,400 Speaker 5: Right right. 1216 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:22,640 Speaker 2: Right that was a good. 1217 00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:23,920 Speaker 5: Point there was a big. 1218 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,080 Speaker 1: Yeah the whole part the tension that the draft was 1219 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:27,800 Speaker 1: not only is he going to get, drafted there's that, 1220 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,360 Speaker 1: layer but it was more, like he's getting, drafted but it's, like, 1221 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,160 Speaker 1: oh let's hope he doesn't go to a team that's 1222 00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,640 Speaker 1: just going to say go back to go go back 1223 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,360 Speaker 1: and play In, europe and that's gonna what's that going 1224 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,080 Speaker 1: to do the family and and our issues and visa 1225 00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:40,080 Speaker 1: statuses and stuff like. 1226 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,080 Speaker 4: That SO i think it was a good decision to 1227 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:48,560 Speaker 4: keep the The. Hawks almost that it socks because rhymes with, 1228 00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:52,520 Speaker 4: hawks but also they gave him socks as part of 1229 00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,240 Speaker 4: the package of stuff like and he was so moved 1230 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,120 Speaker 4: by the fact that he had gotten free socks from The. 1231 00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:02,480 Speaker 4: Hawks so because it rhyme, rhymes and also because he 1232 01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:07,160 Speaker 4: comes from, nothing poverty and just the the simple gift 1233 01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,600 Speaker 4: of some sucks WAS i couldn't and it could have 1234 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,440 Speaker 4: been something cool in the. Movie but, also you know, 1235 01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:13,680 Speaker 4: whatever there's only so much. 1236 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:17,400 Speaker 1: Time any other random notes tray that you you've got 1237 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:18,120 Speaker 1: written down? 1238 01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:19,600 Speaker 6: There did they edit out? 1239 01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:23,840 Speaker 3: Booze During David stern's walking, out he says thank you 1240 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,840 Speaker 3: for the Enthusiastic brooklyn. Welcome they're booing him at that. 1241 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,880 Speaker 3: POINT i have to Imagine i'm back and the start 1242 01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,040 Speaker 3: of the. Draft BUT i thought that was pretty funny 1243 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,240 Speaker 3: BECAUSE i mean it doesn't play like that at. 1244 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 6: All it's just, like, Hey i'm walking out to announce 1245 01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:38,880 Speaker 6: the draft LIKE i always. Do they're going crazy for 1246 01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:39,360 Speaker 6: me out. 1247 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,840 Speaker 4: Here, yeah that stood out to. ME i was just, 1248 01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:43,439 Speaker 4: like he's getting. 1249 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:43,840 Speaker 2: Mooed. 1250 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,480 Speaker 1: Ye do you think that's THE nba saying you know 1251 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,919 Speaker 1: people would Past, yeah. 1252 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,080 Speaker 3: EXACTLY i wouldn't. Understand it was like a loving boom 1253 01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,560 Speaker 3: at the, time like this is what we. Do, yeah so, 1254 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,880 Speaker 3: yeah no doubt about. It that's why they they edited it. 1255 01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,120 Speaker 3: Out but if you were there watching the draft at the, 1256 01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,280 Speaker 3: time you'd be, like, huh that's how he usually went 1257 01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:02,360 Speaker 3: When David stern came. 1258 01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,800 Speaker 1: Out, RIGHT i did like that they nailed the suit 1259 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,760 Speaker 1: on the actor. Portraying, yeah, honest that was you remember 1260 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,880 Speaker 1: we had that that exact suit IF i remember, correctly 1261 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,640 Speaker 1: when he got drafted there and he Was, yeah he 1262 01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:16,360 Speaker 1: was there of course because he went up on stage 1263 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,840 Speaker 1: and did get a chance To shakesten's, hand take the. 1264 01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,280 Speaker 1: Photo in all, that it was pretty. Wild anything, Else 1265 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:23,280 Speaker 1: maddio on this? 1266 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,600 Speaker 5: Movie do we want to talk about a critical response 1267 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:26,160 Speaker 5: to the, Film. 1268 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,320 Speaker 1: Yeah let's do. That we do have one more, break 1269 01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 1: but let's do that now and then we'll take our 1270 01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:35,240 Speaker 1: break and then we'll make our final you, know grades 1271 01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:36,680 Speaker 1: or reviews of this. Movie but, yeah what do you? 1272 01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,560 Speaker 5: Got, okay, well did you say The Rotten tomato score 1273 01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:39,920 Speaker 5: off the top? 1274 01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:41,840 Speaker 1: CAMERA i, didn't And i'll give it to you. Now 1275 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 1: it's pretty pretty solid critics score LAST i checked On 1276 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:48,640 Speaker 1: Rotten tomatoes ninety five, percent very very. High and the 1277 01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,480 Speaker 1: audience scored based on fifty plus verified. Ratings again WHEN 1278 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:55,880 Speaker 1: i saw, it eighty. Percent what, It, Matt that's a 1279 01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:56,800 Speaker 1: lot higher THAN i feel. 1280 01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,160 Speaker 5: Like, First, yeah the most interesting thing is, SURE i, 1281 01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,720 Speaker 5: mean Obviously i'm going to say that those are both too, 1282 01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:05,240 Speaker 5: high but, fine. Whatever that the audience score and this 1283 01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,439 Speaker 5: is clearly made for an audience like a feel good. 1284 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:11,080 Speaker 5: Movie we're fifteen percent lower than the. Critics that's pretty 1285 01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:15,080 Speaker 5: crazy to. Me, yeah, Okay but here's WHY i want 1286 01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:16,640 Speaker 5: to talk About Rod tomatoes BECAUSE i went just to 1287 01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,200 Speaker 5: check it out AFTER i saw the, movie to see 1288 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,400 Speaker 5: what people thought about. It and you know how it 1289 01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,320 Speaker 5: gives a little capsules of the. Reviews. Yep so, Okay 1290 01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:27,040 Speaker 5: i'm gonna read you a paragraph from The Saturday Evening 1291 01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:30,680 Speaker 5: Post Bill. Neukop this is a little piece of his. 1292 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,320 Speaker 5: Review it, says don't turn away because you're not a hoops, 1293 01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,160 Speaker 5: fan even if you don't know a layup From. Allegie 1294 01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,440 Speaker 5: with its charismatic, cast brisk pace and stand up and cheer, 1295 01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,000 Speaker 5: Finale rise takes its place among the likes Of rudy 1296 01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,280 Speaker 5: And rocky as sports films that, proclaim with hard, work good, 1297 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,560 Speaker 5: intentions and a mother load of, faith anything as. Possible, 1298 01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,880 Speaker 5: so first of, all, no it does not join the 1299 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,360 Speaker 5: ranks Of rudy And. Rocky but if you don't know 1300 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:55,400 Speaker 5: a layup From, allegie this obviously watches no dunks because 1301 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,000 Speaker 5: no one that doesn't watch this show knows what allegi. 1302 01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,320 Speaker 1: Is, wow, yeah hind. 1303 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:07,840 Speaker 5: Blown, yeah, okay So Bill newcott is a starter slash 1304 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:08,320 Speaker 5: no dunks. 1305 01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,920 Speaker 1: FAN i guess, so or one of us Is Bill. 1306 01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:16,040 Speaker 5: Nucott but THEN i do question how big AN nba 1307 01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,480 Speaker 5: Fan Bill newcott is if he doesn't, know because he's, 1308 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,600 Speaker 5: saying if you don't, know, OH i Guess, okay, Fine, 1309 01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:23,320 Speaker 5: no he's right a layup from a. Llegie so he's, 1310 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:27,240 Speaker 5: saying allegi is the unknown. Thing, yeah, OKAY i think 1311 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:28,240 Speaker 5: it's even more niche. 1312 01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:28,520 Speaker 6: That he liked. 1313 01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,720 Speaker 1: It he likes that it rhymed as well for, sure 1314 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:31,000 Speaker 1: and the. 1315 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,440 Speaker 6: Alliteration and if you if you go to The wikipedia 1316 01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:40,280 Speaker 6: page glossary of basketball, terms right underneath, layup it's leggie baby. 1317 01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:46,160 Speaker 5: Interesting hyperlink reference to uh to that remember what you 1318 01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:47,320 Speaker 5: did that blog post of like. 1319 01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:53,600 Speaker 3: Credit but luckily this is the, free the free, encyclopedia 1320 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:54,720 Speaker 3: SO i could just update it, Here. 1321 01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:56,760 Speaker 5: Yeah report or flag that? 1322 01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:02,320 Speaker 1: Article, okay what else you got any other ones? 1323 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,800 Speaker 5: Met that was the only other THING i would say 1324 01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,800 Speaker 5: that is THAT i learned that oh was not an. 1325 01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:12,840 Speaker 5: Actor he saw a post On instagram about How jannis 1326 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 5: screenshot at a tweet saying That disney was making a 1327 01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,920 Speaker 5: movie about his life and they were looking someone to 1328 01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,360 Speaker 5: play him and his. Brothers and then this is. Talking 1329 01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:20,760 Speaker 5: SO i just clicked on the link AND i sent 1330 01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,360 Speaker 5: a video talking about. Myself and then a few months 1331 01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,040 Speaker 5: LATER i got a callback for. ME i was never 1332 01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:26,800 Speaker 5: an actor prior to this was very weird to. Me 1333 01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:31,240 Speaker 5: blah blah. Blah he does a call, back he gets, 1334 01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:32,680 Speaker 5: it and then it says that wasn't the. End there 1335 01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:34,680 Speaker 5: was more good news then a couple of weeks, later 1336 01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:36,280 Speaker 5: they asked me IF i had any, siblings AND i 1337 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,040 Speaker 5: SAID i had an older, brother and that led to 1338 01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:42,440 Speaker 5: the casting Of. Ron isn't that crazy that the czy asked, Before, 1339 01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,240 Speaker 5: oh do you haven't have a brother because that might 1340 01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,840 Speaker 5: sway it like they cast, him and then he happened 1341 01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:48,680 Speaker 5: to have an older brother that was also. 1342 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:52,600 Speaker 1: Tall it's it's wild and they're not that bad at. 1343 01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,280 Speaker 1: ALL i, mean when you learned that they're not, actors 1344 01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,760 Speaker 1: really like. This their FIRST i thought was. 1345 01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,680 Speaker 3: Great actually, YEAH i thought it Was, YEAH i, agree, incredible, 1346 01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:02,160 Speaker 3: incredible make a movie about. 1347 01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,080 Speaker 6: Them johannis And finazi Play then though. 1348 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:08,000 Speaker 5: They became. 1349 01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,040 Speaker 6: Actors, wow. 1350 01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:15,240 Speaker 1: If they if the brothers have two other brothers or 1351 01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:19,280 Speaker 1: three other, BROTHERS i guess that would be really. Trippy 1352 01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,720 Speaker 1: we have talked About alex And Uh, Costas, uh the 1353 01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 1: the young the Young. Bros they had some moments in 1354 01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,200 Speaker 1: this movie they were there. For you, KNOW i think 1355 01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,720 Speaker 1: they're peering out of the door and the older brothers 1356 01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:33,400 Speaker 1: getting yelled at and they're going. 1357 01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:34,720 Speaker 6: To mission right. 1358 01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,320 Speaker 1: Right but that's there's play. 1359 01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:37,880 Speaker 4: Soccer they. 1360 01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,240 Speaker 1: Play, yeah my, dad that's about. 1361 01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:41,720 Speaker 6: It that's about. IT i didn't have much to. 1362 01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:46,160 Speaker 1: Dole, okay here's what we're gonna dour final, break real 1363 01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,520 Speaker 1: quick one and when we come, back we will hear 1364 01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:50,920 Speaker 1: from all of us here in The Classic factory And 1365 01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,960 Speaker 1: maddio and ultimately grade this. Ourselves and if you're here 1366 01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,040 Speaker 1: in the stream, team let's hear your grade here For 1367 01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:59,200 Speaker 1: rise as. Well we will be right, back all right 1368 01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,120 Speaker 1: back in The Classic. Factory we are going to give 1369 01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:06,680 Speaker 1: our final reviews, rates, RATINGS i should say for the Movie, 1370 01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:10,720 Speaker 1: rise the honest. Movie but you have a quick little, observation, 1371 01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:11,400 Speaker 1: yeah quick. 1372 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,560 Speaker 2: Note one of the THINGS i liked about this movie 1373 01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,640 Speaker 2: was that it was reshot in some of the places 1374 01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:20,480 Speaker 2: That yannis played basketball and the youth basketball court the 1375 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:25,880 Speaker 2: field feel, LES i can't even say decos where he started. 1376 01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:30,080 Speaker 2: Playing and also the first court where he was just 1377 01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:33,200 Speaker 2: the tall guy was the same court that he played 1378 01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,200 Speaker 2: on that he got invited. To AND i was surprised 1379 01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:38,440 Speaker 2: That nike didn't squeeze in that they had remade the 1380 01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,600 Speaker 2: court With janis's likeness on the, court BECAUSE i think 1381 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:42,840 Speaker 2: it looks so bad as. 1382 01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:44,640 Speaker 1: Sick so that's that's. 1383 01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,280 Speaker 2: Awesome, yeah that's the actual court that he started playing 1384 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,200 Speaker 2: basketball on the. Left and THEN i GUESS i think 1385 01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,880 Speaker 2: it was like five six years ago where, yeah they remade. 1386 01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:56,280 Speaker 2: It Shocked nike didn't somehow squeeze that it in just 1387 01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:57,400 Speaker 2: the epilogue there. 1388 01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:59,919 Speaker 1: Yet, yeah, yeah shot because it looks. 1389 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,480 Speaker 3: Amazing they had that one court That yiannis was playing 1390 01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,360 Speaker 3: on where it was like crazy color blocking like yellow 1391 01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,640 Speaker 3: and peach and maybe like a blue color and they 1392 01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:08,160 Speaker 3: had like an. 1393 01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:09,360 Speaker 5: Overhead shot of him working. 1394 01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:09,960 Speaker 2: Out that was. 1395 01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,080 Speaker 1: Incredible that was a nice looking. Court, Yeah i'd love 1396 01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:13,480 Speaker 1: to see that on. Instant there was a lot of 1397 01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:18,680 Speaker 1: overhead shots that looks sort of. Cool, okay, well let's, 1398 01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,040 Speaker 1: uh let's grade this bad. BOY i don't know if 1399 01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:24,280 Speaker 1: you want to do, It matt the Classic Roger ebert 1400 01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,479 Speaker 1: style with the. Stars you want to give it a letter, 1401 01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:28,720 Speaker 1: grade you want to rate it out of, ten go 1402 01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:32,240 Speaker 1: wherever you. Want how Is Matt austin rating the Movie, 1403 01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,160 Speaker 1: Rise i'm. 1404 01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:38,200 Speaker 5: Gonna give giving it a nine wow out Of oh, 1405 01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:39,920 Speaker 5: no it's not out of. Anything NINE a is In 1406 01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:46,040 Speaker 5: Trey burke the ninth pick in the two. THOUSAND i 1407 01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,760 Speaker 5: know it's not quite a. One And Anthony bennett A Tony. 1408 01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:57,640 Speaker 5: Bennett but, NO i mean, obviously LIKE i, LOVE i 1409 01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,560 Speaker 5: want to EMPHASIZE i love a Cheesy disney sports. MOVIE 1410 01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:03,680 Speaker 5: i actually, recently a few months, ago watched this movie McFarland. 1411 01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,360 Speaker 5: Usa you should watch. It it's a running, movie and you, 1412 01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,080 Speaker 5: know it's not a perfect, movie but it's really. Good 1413 01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:10,240 Speaker 5: and that's a movie that deals with there's some gang, 1414 01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:16,400 Speaker 5: violence there's some definitely racism. Involved SO i, MEAN I i, 1415 01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:18,760 Speaker 5: Yeah i'm not happy to say THAT i didn't love, 1416 01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,559 Speaker 5: it especially BECAUSE i do love this type of. Movie 1417 01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,720 Speaker 5: i'm in awe Of. GIANNESS i love, him couldn't have 1418 01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:26,840 Speaker 5: more respect for him and his family and what they 1419 01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:30,880 Speaker 5: went through and the. Perseverance it's an incredibly inspiring. Story 1420 01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:34,000 Speaker 5: LIKE i, SAID i, MEAN i, was you, know teary 1421 01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:39,640 Speaker 5: eyed WHEN i actually saw his REAL mvp. Speech but, 1422 01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:44,880 Speaker 5: yeah UNFORTUNATELY i did not love this, movie would not really. 1423 01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:50,880 Speaker 1: Recommend, okay, okay so you don't have a you don't 1424 01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:54,639 Speaker 1: have an official something out of ten for. Us it's 1425 01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,320 Speaker 1: not nine out of. Ten you're not giving it that. 1426 01:08:58,479 --> 01:08:59,840 Speaker 6: About nine out of. 1427 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:01,280 Speaker 5: Thirty he's just giving it A Troy. 1428 01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:02,639 Speaker 1: Burn, okay it's a trade. 1429 01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:04,920 Speaker 2: Burn you could you could have got nine and Then 1430 01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,559 Speaker 2: tray three out of ten Ty. 1431 01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:11,360 Speaker 5: Burke, okay it's your grading system that's giving, it honestly 1432 01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,960 Speaker 5: a three because that's an auto, porter which is like 1433 01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,680 Speaker 5: you don't want to use your third pick. On but 1434 01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:17,360 Speaker 5: at least it was. 1435 01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,600 Speaker 1: Function, yeah, yeah, okay you want to change it to 1436 01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:20,960 Speaker 1: an auto? 1437 01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:26,320 Speaker 5: Porter maybe Maybe i'll change it to uh. FOUR A 1438 01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:32,280 Speaker 5: Cody zeller come and rescue? Me weren't the first Three 1439 01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,280 Speaker 5: Cody alex Lenn. 1440 01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:37,479 Speaker 1: Yeah do you think they would have made this movie 1441 01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,400 Speaker 1: if the Plumb ley's or The zellers were the first three? 1442 01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:40,799 Speaker 5: Bros? 1443 01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:41,880 Speaker 4: Probably? 1444 01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:46,200 Speaker 2: NO i, okay, okay remember that time we Saw Miles 1445 01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:50,200 Speaker 2: plumley outside of that place in Inmand park MAT i 1446 01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:53,439 Speaker 2: saw plumbley, oh, yeah. 1447 01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:54,200 Speaker 5: YES i do remember. 1448 01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:55,000 Speaker 2: That of course you. 1449 01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:00,160 Speaker 1: Could you Forget, yeah let's go to you next. Man 1450 01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:02,320 Speaker 1: what'd you think of this? Movie your final thoughts and 1451 01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:02,560 Speaker 1: how you? 1452 01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:08,759 Speaker 2: Great, Well i'm excited about watching McFarland. USA i gotta, say, honestly, 1453 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:13,599 Speaker 2: LEGIT i need some inspiration Because i'm trying to, run 1454 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,920 Speaker 2: SO i need that in my. Life AND i was 1455 01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:23,760 Speaker 2: inspired Watching. Rise you, know it was probably not catered to, 1456 01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,880 Speaker 2: me but of COURSE i as well respect the heck 1457 01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,639 Speaker 2: out Of, yanny SO i wanted to watch every single 1458 01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:33,080 Speaker 2: minute of. It the beginning half an hour reeled me in. 1459 01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:37,599 Speaker 2: Enough of, course you, KNOW i loved Seeing charles raking 1460 01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,920 Speaker 2: the olives off the olive. Trees just just seeing all 1461 01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,960 Speaker 2: of those scenic shots In greece also reeled me. IN 1462 01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,679 Speaker 2: i liked the music in this that it Wasn't american, 1463 01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:51,040 Speaker 2: music you, know it, was you know a lot of It, 1464 01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,800 Speaker 2: nigerian and so that that reeled. Me AND i need 1465 01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,360 Speaker 2: a little more culture in my. Life so that was. 1466 01:10:56,439 --> 01:11:01,240 Speaker 2: Wonderful So i'm going out of ten seven and a 1467 01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:10,719 Speaker 2: half eight eight eight K kcp down with. ME i don't, 1468 01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:14,200 Speaker 2: know you could tell me any name in that draft 1469 01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:15,479 Speaker 2: got drafted, Out i'd be. 1470 01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:16,240 Speaker 5: Like, yeah he was. 1471 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,960 Speaker 4: DRAFTED i. DON'T i don't know who was drafted in that. 1472 01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:22,320 Speaker 2: Draft the other the other, day when The JD's, like, 1473 01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,960 Speaker 2: hey make sure you Watch, rise AND i, said of, 1474 01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,439 Speaker 2: Course i'm gonna watch he. Goes the thing that stands 1475 01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:31,439 Speaker 2: out to, me excuse, me was how crazy that draft. 1476 01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:33,600 Speaker 2: Is J d was recalling the draft for me That 1477 01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,639 Speaker 2: Tony bennett was number, one AND i. DON'T i don't 1478 01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,800 Speaker 2: remember any Of Michael Carter. Williams it felt like they 1479 01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:41,240 Speaker 2: were was a. 1480 01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:42,479 Speaker 4: Draft it was a forgetable. 1481 01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,880 Speaker 2: DRAFT i was, like goober brothers were laughing at like 1482 01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,320 Speaker 2: that was a purposeful. Joke it almost felt like getting 1483 01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:49,200 Speaker 2: mc w in. 1484 01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:53,200 Speaker 1: There but, Anyway i'll go, eight, okay pretty good, Score. 1485 01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:56,200 Speaker 3: TREY i came in THINKING i was going to give 1486 01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:59,960 Speaker 3: this A ben macklamore seven of, ten seven of, Ten 1487 01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:02,600 Speaker 3: but after having a chat with my friends, HERE i 1488 01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,360 Speaker 3: THINK i got to go more like A Nerlin's, no, 1489 01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:05,800 Speaker 3: well a six out of. 1490 01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:06,040 Speaker 2: Ten. 1491 01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:08,400 Speaker 6: OKAY i liked it more THAN i thought it was 1492 01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:10,120 Speaker 6: Gonna THEN i thought it was THAT i THOUGHT i 1493 01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:11,960 Speaker 6: was going To but as we've talked more and more. 1494 01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:15,120 Speaker 3: Here there's a better movie to be made, here and 1495 01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,400 Speaker 3: we're comparing it to a lot of good Like disney. 1496 01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:19,840 Speaker 6: Movies but these are all three theatrical. 1497 01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,880 Speaker 3: Releases so for, me this is a good made FOR 1498 01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:25,880 Speaker 3: tv movie which probably doesn't get much higher than a. 1499 01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:29,080 Speaker 3: Six so, ultimately even though he's very skinny and has 1500 01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:32,080 Speaker 3: no offensive, Game neurlin's. No well six out of ten, 1501 01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:34,479 Speaker 3: OKAY Jd. 1502 01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:39,080 Speaker 4: Wow, YEAH i wish you hadn't have said McFarlane usa, 1503 01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:41,880 Speaker 4: Match she, SAYS i loved. 1504 01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,479 Speaker 5: That, okay here we. Go why don't you have me 1505 01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:46,840 Speaker 5: on to talk ABOUT i SO i can rave instead. 1506 01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:48,960 Speaker 1: Of Being is it based on a true? 1507 01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:49,200 Speaker 6: Story? 1508 01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:49,439 Speaker 2: Yes? 1509 01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,920 Speaker 4: Course is it? Costner, yeah it's. 1510 01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:57,720 Speaker 6: Like A yellowstone sort of a. 1511 01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:04,000 Speaker 1: Mole, okay so it's About seth MacFarlane running a. 1512 01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:12,040 Speaker 4: Race not quite. ANYWAY I i Love. Giannis he's one 1513 01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,600 Speaker 4: of My he's probably my favorite player in the. LEAGUE i. 1514 01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,280 Speaker 4: HAVE i feel LIKE i have a connection to him 1515 01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,519 Speaker 4: because of that two hours that we spent with him 1516 01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:24,080 Speaker 4: in his rookie. Year also there's The greek, connection and 1517 01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,639 Speaker 4: he is he has had a relationship with this show 1518 01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:30,160 Speaker 4: over the years as. Well right task calling him out 1519 01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:35,320 Speaker 4: and then him actually responding to our you, know get 1520 01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:37,880 Speaker 4: us giving him awards and him actually accepting, them you, 1521 01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:39,320 Speaker 4: know having a nice funny speech for. 1522 01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:39,639 Speaker 2: Them. 1523 01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:42,200 Speaker 4: Uh he just all around a great. Guy SO i 1524 01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:43,920 Speaker 4: want to root for, him AND i ALL i want 1525 01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:46,680 Speaker 4: TO i want to root for this. Movie AND i 1526 01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:50,439 Speaker 4: did find it, interesting but only from that, perspective right, 1527 01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,400 Speaker 4: like only Because i've met the guy AND i love 1528 01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:56,800 Speaker 4: him AND i was interested in his. Story and the 1529 01:13:56,920 --> 01:14:00,680 Speaker 4: movie actually made me curious enough to actually go buy 1530 01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,120 Speaker 4: a book about basketball and start reading a book about, 1531 01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:04,680 Speaker 4: basketball which is pretty rare for. 1532 01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:06,560 Speaker 2: Me so there is. 1533 01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,880 Speaker 4: That BUT i wouldn't recommend this movie to to somebody 1534 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,680 Speaker 4: when there's a McFarlane usa on the, table when when 1535 01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:13,799 Speaker 4: the you, know it's. 1536 01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,479 Speaker 2: Just it's just not that. 1537 01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:19,839 Speaker 4: Good it's a wonderful love letter To charles and To. Takoupo, 1538 01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:24,680 Speaker 4: absolutely but there Is As trey, said there is a 1539 01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:28,080 Speaker 4: much better movie in this. Story for, sure this movie 1540 01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,880 Speaker 4: is going to be. Inspiring this story is inspiring no 1541 01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,560 Speaker 4: matter what, happens Right, like there is no way you 1542 01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:37,519 Speaker 4: can't be inspired by the by the rise Of giannis 1543 01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,120 Speaker 4: and his family and just where he came from to 1544 01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:44,040 Speaker 4: where he ended up is it's it's a miracle to 1545 01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:49,640 Speaker 4: borrow Another disney, movie another Better disney movie. Title So 1546 01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:54,400 Speaker 4: i'm going to give it four four out of. Ten 1547 01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:56,320 Speaker 4: jad you. 1548 01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:57,920 Speaker 5: Don't you don't want that on the picture of like 1549 01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:02,840 Speaker 5: a biopic Like imit you'll Love Imitation. Game and then 1550 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:08,519 Speaker 5: in small, letters if you've Met, alan if you haven't Met, 1551 01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:11,759 Speaker 5: John Professor John, nash you're not gonna love a beautiful. 1552 01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:15,000 Speaker 4: Mind that's, yeah, exactly, exactly all. 1553 01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:15,920 Speaker 2: RIGHT a. 1554 01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:18,200 Speaker 1: Four that's, uh that's lower THAN i thought you were 1555 01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:19,400 Speaker 1: gonna you know WHAT i, Like. 1556 01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:21,960 Speaker 4: TREY i came, in you, know pretty, hot LIKE i 1557 01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:24,760 Speaker 4: was probably thinking a six or a, seven BUT i 1558 01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,040 Speaker 4: got talked out of. IT i got Talked, okay so 1559 01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:27,320 Speaker 4: we got. 1560 01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,960 Speaker 5: It we got A, burke we got A. NEURLANS jd 1561 01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:35,160 Speaker 5: just dropped A. Zeller did someone give it a mackel 1562 01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:36,679 Speaker 5: mare or was That trey's original? 1563 01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:37,200 Speaker 6: Task it? 1564 01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:41,600 Speaker 5: Was, okay, okay so SKEATS i. 1565 01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:44,080 Speaker 1: AM i Guess i'm higher on this movie than you, 1566 01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,200 Speaker 1: guys WHICH i can't. Believe sounds like you might be A. 1567 01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:46,479 Speaker 6: Cj. 1568 01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:47,160 Speaker 4: McCollum. 1569 01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,600 Speaker 1: Nice, okay here's WHAT i like about the. Movie and 1570 01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:53,639 Speaker 1: we've touched on a lot of, this but the color 1571 01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:55,920 Speaker 1: of the movie is really cool, LOOKING i. THOUGHT i 1572 01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:59,560 Speaker 1: think the cinematography is shot pretty, nice like you, said the, 1573 01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,680 Speaker 1: courts The african like clothing and all, that and, LIKE 1574 01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:05,519 Speaker 1: i think it looks a lot better THAN i thought 1575 01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:07,080 Speaker 1: it was gonna. Look and even to the, basketball AND 1576 01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,519 Speaker 1: i think they made a smart decision not showing too much, 1577 01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:13,000 Speaker 1: basketball like stretching the actors thin on the court, there 1578 01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:15,240 Speaker 1: but just enough that it was, Like, okay these guys 1579 01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:18,120 Speaker 1: Can they're solid. Enough, yeah was it a, leap Like 1580 01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:20,559 Speaker 1: matt said, that like suddenly honest is like getting drafted 1581 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,000 Speaker 1: in THE. Nba, yeah probably in the movie, sense but 1582 01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:24,600 Speaker 1: it was sort of a leap in real life as 1583 01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:27,000 Speaker 1: we talked. About SO i didn't mind. That the immigration, stuff, 1584 01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:28,720 Speaker 1: man that hit a little too close to. HOLE i, 1585 01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,519 Speaker 1: right Like, jesus And i'm not saying by any means 1586 01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:33,640 Speaker 1: like what the Situation i'm in was comparable to that 1587 01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,599 Speaker 1: family and what they had to do moving From nigeria 1588 01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,519 Speaker 1: To turkey and then trying to like become you, know 1589 01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:42,880 Speaker 1: citizens of a country they had kids in for crying it. 1590 01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:45,880 Speaker 1: Loud but like the whole visa. Stuff, yeah and just 1591 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:49,439 Speaker 1: the double standard of needing a work visa but you. 1592 01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:51,519 Speaker 1: Can't but you can't get a job unless you have a. 1593 01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:53,479 Speaker 1: Visa like he even says, that he's like what the, Hell, 1594 01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:57,680 Speaker 1: like how does this make any? Sense like super, frustrating and, 1595 01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,559 Speaker 1: again you, know just just having a visa this, country 1596 01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,320 Speaker 1: there's A i could at least relate a little bit to. 1597 01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:06,960 Speaker 1: THAT i thought the father and mother were really really. 1598 01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,560 Speaker 1: GOOD i, MEAN i was rooting for, them, like you, 1599 01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:11,320 Speaker 1: know and it's funny because you know how the movie's gonna. 1600 01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:15,360 Speaker 1: END i know he's going to THE, nba but you, 1601 01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:17,080 Speaker 1: know you did a lot of the times like you're, like, 1602 01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:20,320 Speaker 1: ah you just like they were very, likable, yes and 1603 01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:25,080 Speaker 1: believable as this big unit the brothers and all. That 1604 01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:28,720 Speaker 1: SO i like that about. IT i couldn't believe it 1605 01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:30,519 Speaker 1: was an hour fifty three WHEN i sat down to watch, 1606 01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,400 Speaker 1: It but it went fast for, me it really. Did 1607 01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:34,479 Speaker 1: AND i, think you, Know matt led this podcast by 1608 01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:37,320 Speaker 1: saying the first twenty thirty minutes like you're hooked and you're, LIKE, 1609 01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:40,280 Speaker 1: whoa what tip movie is to? This there's some real stakes? 1610 01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:43,880 Speaker 1: Here and then, okay did? It did it trail off 1611 01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,680 Speaker 1: a little bit and dragging some, spots not a lot to. 1612 01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,240 Speaker 1: ME i was like at the, END i was, Like, 1613 01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:51,000 Speaker 1: OKAY i would have liked to see a little more 1614 01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,040 Speaker 1: in THE nba and some of the maybe the high 1615 01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:58,000 Speaker 1: drinks and even issues he probably, had honest when he 1616 01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,360 Speaker 1: came To milwaukee and all, that that would be. FUN i, 1617 01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:03,479 Speaker 1: mean it's coming To america in some, sense but sure 1618 01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:03,920 Speaker 1: give us that. 1619 01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:07,680 Speaker 2: Movie, yeah there's that story of somebody just giving him 1620 01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:13,840 Speaker 2: a ride first because he JUST i guess he didn't 1621 01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:14,200 Speaker 2: know where he was. 1622 01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:17,000 Speaker 1: Going but it's not it's not the movie that they 1623 01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:19,400 Speaker 1: were trying to make, Here like, ESPECIALLY i think you're. 1624 01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:22,320 Speaker 1: HONEST i think his, fingerprints his long, fingerprints are all 1625 01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:24,840 Speaker 1: over this. Movie probably a ton of decisions of like 1626 01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,719 Speaker 1: trying to give more shine to his, brother and obviously 1627 01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:30,920 Speaker 1: The francis angle of, things and of course what his 1628 01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,640 Speaker 1: mother and father had to, overcome and it could have 1629 01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:35,160 Speaker 1: been so much more about. Him AND i just have 1630 01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:38,040 Speaker 1: this weird feeling just not knowing, him but of course 1631 01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:39,560 Speaker 1: like having an idea of the type of person he 1632 01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:40,800 Speaker 1: is that he's, LIKE i don't want to do. That 1633 01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:42,720 Speaker 1: so if that's what you, want we're not doing. It 1634 01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:45,960 Speaker 1: SO i get why the movie is the way it. 1635 01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:47,240 Speaker 5: Is SO i liked. 1636 01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:50,320 Speaker 1: It, now AM i gonna watch it? 1637 01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:50,599 Speaker 2: Again? 1638 01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:51,519 Speaker 5: No? 1639 01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:54,120 Speaker 1: DO i WISH i watched it on an. Airplane absolutely 1640 01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:57,080 Speaker 1: did a nice, AIRPLANE a nice two. 1641 01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:58,880 Speaker 2: Hours you. 1642 01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:02,000 Speaker 1: Know it's, like, yeah BUT i watched that at home 1643 01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:04,639 Speaker 1: AND i enjoyed, It SO i will give. It i'm 1644 01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:06,200 Speaker 1: gonna go with. Test i'm going to give it an eight. 1645 01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:10,040 Speaker 1: Too yeah, wow, yeah, yeah, yeah that's. High it's not 1646 01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:11,960 Speaker 1: a bad, movie though it really. 1647 01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:12,400 Speaker 5: ISN'T i. 1648 01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:14,920 Speaker 4: Agree this is the lowest Score i've ever given a 1649 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,680 Speaker 4: movie THAT i. LIKE i like this. MOVIE i like. 1650 01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:20,080 Speaker 4: IT i just thought it could be so much. Better, 1651 01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:23,120 Speaker 4: so and, AGAIN i don't THINK i would recommend it 1652 01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:25,960 Speaker 4: unless you're a Huge bucks, fan or a Huge yannis 1653 01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:30,720 Speaker 4: fan or A poco Fan. Podkya, YEAH i, mean you, 1654 01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:31,439 Speaker 4: know you Like. 1655 01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:35,320 Speaker 6: Scouts this is the top guy In greece for the third. 1656 01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:36,720 Speaker 4: Sport yeah that's. 1657 01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:38,800 Speaker 1: Interesting you liked, it but you're you can't give it 1658 01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:40,439 Speaker 1: a very high. Score and that's. 1659 01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:42,880 Speaker 3: Why that's why the critics score is higher On Rotten 1660 01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:47,840 Speaker 3: tomatoes than the audience, score because everybody likes. It but 1661 01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:49,800 Speaker 3: to get to get a like to go into the 1662 01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:51,639 Speaker 3: ninety five. Percent all you gotta do is say, YEAH 1663 01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:53,360 Speaker 3: i liked. It you don't have to give it a high. 1664 01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:54,000 Speaker 6: Score you don't have. 1665 01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:55,720 Speaker 3: To people aren't saying this is a nine and a 1666 01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:57,880 Speaker 3: half out of, ten, right it's probably more like a 1667 01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:00,360 Speaker 3: like an, eight like you guys are, Saying, yeah so 1668 01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:01,599 Speaker 3: you get the ninety five and eighty. 1669 01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:05,000 Speaker 1: Split, YEAH i don't, know, man any final, thoughts my 1670 01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:06,280 Speaker 1: man as we wrap this. 1671 01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:09,840 Speaker 5: Up, oh it was something that just came to. Me 1672 01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:15,280 Speaker 5: when you podcast in the, past that's your. Ego when 1673 01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:18,280 Speaker 5: you podcast in the, future that's your. Pride when you 1674 01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:25,760 Speaker 5: podcast in the, present that's. Humility, okay none of you 1675 01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,160 Speaker 5: are basketball. FANS i guess you don't remember that speech 1676 01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:30,680 Speaker 5: That jannis. Games, no there was, Yeah, no that was 1677 01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:34,200 Speaker 5: that's the is that The Nike, no it was a 1678 01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:37,080 Speaker 5: press conference and someone asked, him you don't play with 1679 01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:39,960 Speaker 5: a lot of? Ego where, like where did you learn 1680 01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:42,599 Speaker 5: that for such a young. Player most players don't learn 1681 01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:45,519 Speaker 5: that until they're in their, thirties and, you, like like 1682 01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:47,800 Speaker 5: off the, dome just get, like when you focus on the, 1683 01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:49,840 Speaker 5: past that's your. Ego focus on the, future that's your. 1684 01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:51,720 Speaker 5: Pride focus on the presence that's come. 1685 01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,200 Speaker 1: On charles told him that at some point for. 1686 01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:57,960 Speaker 5: Sure okay, maybe but he had the he had the answer. 1687 01:20:58,040 --> 01:20:59,160 Speaker 5: Ready charles And. 1688 01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:03,439 Speaker 1: Vera had a lot of like boom big lines like you, 1689 01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:05,479 Speaker 1: know of course the whole the family. 1690 01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:11,760 Speaker 4: Scores that's a beautiful. Message and you, KNOW i THINK 1691 01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:14,519 Speaker 4: i think they did a good job portraying that. Message 1692 01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:18,240 Speaker 4: SO i would like to see this movie made From fanasis's. Point, 1693 01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:20,800 Speaker 4: INTERESTING i don't, know. 1694 01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:25,559 Speaker 5: Because krantz And, guildenstern. 1695 01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:29,880 Speaker 4: But the guy made the N B. A he's in THE, Nba, 1696 01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:32,920 Speaker 4: fanasis and he was a top prospect that he was 1697 01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:38,600 Speaker 4: the guy originally and just to see his younger brother overshadow, 1698 01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:42,479 Speaker 4: him and by all accounts he's this super selfless guy, 1699 01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:45,640 Speaker 4: too like the sacrifices that he has made and the 1700 01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:49,479 Speaker 4: family has. Made, uh you, KNOW i just it's interesting to. 1701 01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:50,920 Speaker 4: Me maybe he was great. 1702 01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:55,200 Speaker 5: Parenting they are the nicest. PEOPLE i, mean it is 1703 01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:59,680 Speaker 5: it's a real well WHAT'S i guess most movies are 1704 01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:03,599 Speaker 5: about that good things happen to bad, people bad things 1705 01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:05,360 Speaker 5: can happen to good. People this was a good thing's 1706 01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:06,639 Speaker 5: happening to good. People that's. 1707 01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:10,080 Speaker 1: True it's. True he it was great to see. Guys 1708 01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,479 Speaker 1: let us know what you thought Of. RISE i know 1709 01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:14,439 Speaker 1: you guys are in the stream team right. NOW i 1710 01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:16,640 Speaker 1: Like carlos, SAYING i don't know If i'm gonna watch this. 1711 01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:23,320 Speaker 1: Movie NOW i should have watched it first, Smarts but that's. 1712 01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:27,200 Speaker 1: Okay but email us your thoughts On rise No dunks 1713 01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:28,720 Speaker 1: at The athletic Dot. Com you can tweet him into 1714 01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:31,360 Speaker 1: at no. Dunksinc or leave him in the YouTube. Comments 1715 01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:35,200 Speaker 1: maddio can't thank you enough for jumping on here and 1716 01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:37,599 Speaker 1: breaking down this. Movie what's going on in your world over? 1717 01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:40,920 Speaker 1: There anything anything? Exciting we saw you of course In. 1718 01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:43,880 Speaker 5: Vegas, YEAH i mean much like the song that we 1719 01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:47,720 Speaker 5: sang fifteen. Times And i'm taking it. 1720 01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:50,600 Speaker 1: Easy oh all, right but running down the. 1721 01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:59,160 Speaker 5: Road actually this WEEK i did loosen my, load not 1722 01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:00,960 Speaker 5: even really What i'm MAN i met the other. Way 1723 01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:01,639 Speaker 5: but sure. 1724 01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:04,400 Speaker 1: Dump in the show. 1725 01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:06,160 Speaker 4: Over? 1726 01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:12,240 Speaker 5: There, YEAH o, yeah, yeah let's rave about. 1727 01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:13,479 Speaker 4: That, yeah that's a. 1728 01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:15,160 Speaker 1: Show you want to talk about the, rehearsal do? 1729 01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:16,519 Speaker 5: You? OH i loved, it all. 1730 01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:18,720 Speaker 1: Right we've probably got another one coming out this, weekend don't? 1731 01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:22,120 Speaker 4: We oh, yeah all, right tonight is It? FRIDAY i 1732 01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:22,439 Speaker 4: thought it Was. 1733 01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:23,840 Speaker 1: Sunday that's exciting to watch. 1734 01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:24,920 Speaker 6: It got A tv in. 1735 01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:25,920 Speaker 1: Here you want a live? 1736 01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:30,880 Speaker 5: Podcasts, yeah five old men talk about how they're excited 1737 01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:32,960 Speaker 5: For friday night because their show is coming. 1738 01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:35,920 Speaker 4: Up CAN i stay up till eleven? Pm that's the? 1739 01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:39,320 Speaker 5: Question, wow come over, HERE jd eight. PM i. 1740 01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:41,240 Speaker 4: Know let's move the show out To la. 1741 01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:44,080 Speaker 5: Guys you should at night after the. Games that, way 1742 01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:47,560 Speaker 5: when people wake, up it's right there for we're still on. 1743 01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:55,320 Speaker 1: There all, right, guys let's let's hear your thoughts On. 1744 01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:58,439 Speaker 1: Rise we will be back next. Week we got SOME nba, 1745 01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:01,160 Speaker 1: podcast we got some no on to our baseball. Podcast 1746 01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:03,240 Speaker 1: no breaks because we've got a race this. Weekend we 1747 01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:04,479 Speaker 1: got a. Race where are we? 1748 01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:04,840 Speaker 5: Racing? 1749 01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:08,080 Speaker 1: France, yes hottest hell In. France what they're saying and 1750 01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:10,200 Speaker 1: watch your. ENGINES i think it's LIKE i THINK i 1751 01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,920 Speaker 1: saw a little practice this. Morning they're saying sixty degrees 1752 01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:14,680 Speaker 1: celsius down on the on the. 1753 01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:18,439 Speaker 5: Track sixty that's too. Hot that is honestly too. 1754 01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:22,080 Speaker 1: Hot getting air, anyway those all those podcasts are coming 1755 01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:24,120 Speaker 1: next week and a whole lot more so we'll see you. 1756 01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:26,479 Speaker 1: Then have a great. Weekend thanks, Again maddio clip of. 1757 01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:29,360 Speaker 6: Bros you heard it here, first have a great, time turn, 1758 01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:31,400 Speaker 6: up love you, guys, awesome. 1759 01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:35,519 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining. Us, Really matt should have just kept 1760 01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:39,760 Speaker 2: That yannis quote that you just dropped for, this, right 1761 01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:44,040 Speaker 2: SO i could regret it twice regret how about how 1762 01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:46,360 Speaker 2: about how about, okay so it was about you, know 1763 01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:50,720 Speaker 2: being in the, moment, Right carlos on the stream team 1764 01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:53,640 Speaker 2: just said he regretted not having watched the. Movie can 1765 01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:57,600 Speaker 2: you can you sort of Transform yanis's quote To, Carlos. 1766 01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,840 Speaker 1: Yeah you can use your pen and paper and craft. 1767 01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:03,800 Speaker 2: Something we got time. 1768 01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:11,160 Speaker 1: WRITING i don't like how many pages you apparently this movie. 1769 01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:13,559 Speaker 6: Like this. 1770 01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:20,560 Speaker 5: As guys. Prepared don't watch movies in the past because 1771 01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:25,840 Speaker 5: someone just watch watch movies in the, present because that's true. 1772 01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,360 Speaker 5: Humility is it. 1773 01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:32,760 Speaker 6: The third time? 1774 01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:35,599 Speaker 2: Now i'm, Sorry, no you shouldn't regret. 1775 01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:40,599 Speaker 1: It, hey, look when one podcaster screws off a joke 1776 01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:44,400 Speaker 1: the entire, podcast all, right brace the weekend, people