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Speaker 1: Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of The Black

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Speaker 1: Effect and our Heart Radio and partnership with Showtime. They

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Speaker 1: do have to start off Paul with a bit of

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Speaker 1: an apology. I am sorry. I want to say, I

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Speaker 1: am sorry. My therapist told me to do this. It's

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Speaker 1: good to apologize to people when you've wronged them. I am.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this A die hard

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Speaker 1: New York Knickabocker fans die hard since I'm not one

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Speaker 1: of these, you know, New Vaux Reach fans. I've been,

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Speaker 1: you know, riding with the Orangine Blue for quite some time.

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Speaker 1: I have cursed you out in my mind for a

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Speaker 1: very long time. I've said some very mean things about

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Speaker 1: you mentally, all out of love, all out of respect

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Speaker 1: as you broke my heart. But I just feel now

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Speaker 1: that we're working together the truth of the Nose, I

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Speaker 1: should apologize to you for all the mean and disparaging

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Speaker 1: things I've said about you over the years. Internally, you

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Speaker 1: know what. I like to apologize to you. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for all the things that I've been able to crush.

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Speaker 1: The knicks you have I can't even debate, yes, so

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Speaker 1: I apologize. No, it's all good. Thank you. For doing that.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that on behalf of all Knicks fans, We're

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Speaker 1: glad that you are retired. Hello everyone, welcome to a

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Speaker 1: very special edition of What's Burning here on the Showtime

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Speaker 1: Basketball YouTube channel. I'm Marry Alwani And how about this,

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Speaker 1: my friends, you talk about a special edition of the show.

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Speaker 1: Very special guest, the one and only Paul Pierce the

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Speaker 1: Truth in the house. We're replacing the guys for this

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Speaker 1: week only. I say this week only Paul because I

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Speaker 1: They call you the Truth, they call me the Nose.

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Speaker 1: This is the first episode of The Truth and the Nose.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this. I have a

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Speaker 1: very big nose, uh. And when I was young, everyone

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Speaker 1: myself the nose. Hell, Wannie knows. I knows everything. I'm

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Speaker 1: able to sniff out the news. Hence the nose. Remember

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Speaker 1: back in the day, Bo knows, Remember that campaign Helwani knows?

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Speaker 1: But no s E. You get it. The Truth and

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Speaker 1: the nose right here. Showtime Basketball. This is gonna be

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Speaker 1: a fun show. I appreciate you doing this. We have

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Speaker 1: a lot to talk about busy week ahead in the

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Speaker 1: National Basketball Association, but I do have to start off,

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Speaker 1: Paul with a bit of an apology. I am sorry.

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Speaker 1: I want to say, I am sorry. My therapist told

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Speaker 1: me to do this. It's good to apologize to people

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Speaker 1: you know this a die hard New York KNICKO backer

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Speaker 1: I've said some very mean things about you mentally, all

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Speaker 1: my heart. But I just feel now that we're working together,

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Speaker 1: the truth of the knows I should apologize to you

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Speaker 1: you over the years. Internally, you know what. I like

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Speaker 1: Thank you for doing that. I appreciate that. On behalf

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Speaker 1: of all Knicks fans, We're we're glad that you are tired.

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Speaker 1: All right, A lot to talk about. Let's stick with

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Speaker 1: the Celtics, Let's stick with your squad. They have a

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Speaker 1: busy week ahead West coast trip, playing the Lakers, playing

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Speaker 1: I think it's always good to air out your differences.

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Speaker 1: because basically, over the past hundred games for the Celtics,

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Speaker 1: are a true five hundred team. I'm not saying this

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Speaker 1: He's hard, nos, he's a defender, he's accepted role, and

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Speaker 1: he's on the team. Yeah, come on, respect um your

424
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Speaker 1: boys with the Nassis. No, I'm not I don't want

425
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 1: to be enemies with them. No, I'm just telling it

426
00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,040
Speaker 1: like it is over here. So Okay, Seth is playing great.

427
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,199
Speaker 1: Steph is playing great. The Warriors are playing great. Had

428
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 1: a big win on Friday over the Suns to snap

429
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 1: their winning street. Did you see this out of the Warriors, Like,

430
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 1: did you think maybe we should have Maybe you know,

431
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,119
Speaker 1: they showed the signs at the end of last season,

432
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 1: but did you think that they would turn into one

433
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,680
Speaker 1: of the powerhouses of the league. I did not see

434
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,879
Speaker 1: this from the Warriors. No, I did not, because when

435
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,159
Speaker 1: you look at last year, they got put out the

436
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 1: put in Game by the Memphis Grizzlies, and so I'm like,

437
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 1: how is this a championship caliber team? And they didn't

438
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 1: even make the playoffs last year and this is relatively

439
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,919
Speaker 1: the same team. But credit the Warriors, they developed their

440
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 1: young guys. You know, Loony. You look what he's been doing, Draymond.

441
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,200
Speaker 1: He seems like he's re energized. And then Steph is

442
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,359
Speaker 1: playing at the m v P level, which he was

443
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 1: doing last year, but he's a lot healthier this year.

444
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 1: And then the fact that they don't even have Clay

445
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,119
Speaker 1: Thompson and Wiseman and they're the best team record wise

446
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 1: in the league. This is scary. I didn't see this coming.

447
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,919
Speaker 1: But then when you think back, you like the combination

448
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 1: of Steph, Draymond, and Clay Thompson, that Big three before

449
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 1: Durant one a lot of games, they won a championship,

450
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 1: and so if you get them back together, you have

451
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,680
Speaker 1: to wonder their window it's probably still open for a

452
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 1: few more years. I'm a little shocked you to mention

453
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,439
Speaker 1: Mapel Jordan's my guy, Andrew Wiggins. Yeah, those guys are

454
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:52,440
Speaker 1: playing great. They know they've done a great job. Better

455
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 1: than Harrison Burnes. They're better with Mapel Jordan than they

456
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 1: were with Harrison Barnes back in the day predirect, how

457
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 1: about that? Yet to see that we have yet Harrison

458
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 1: Barnes won the championship. So put some the Harrison Barnes

459
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 1: name first. All right, fair enough, How do you think

460
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 1: it's gonna go with Clay coming back? I mean, I

461
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 1: can't see anyway where it ruins the chemistry, where it

462
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 1: ruins things, right, I mean, he's just such a great

463
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 1: team guy. You know what I thought. I've been watching

464
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 1: the Wars? Do you bring Clay off the bench early on?

465
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 1: I'm saying, though, look at the chemistry right now, that

466
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 1: could be another weapon off the bench. And plus you

467
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 1: know with the injuries he's had, you know, Achilles, do

468
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 1: you bring him off the bench or do you insert

469
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 1: him in that starting lineup? Because the chemistry is there.

470
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 1: They whooping teams are average of fifteen every night without Clay,

471
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 1: so now he could bring that spark off the bench.

472
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 1: I think it was me I may bring him off

473
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 1: the bench at first, get him in shape. See how

474
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 1: the chemistry is great right now? Nobody saw it coming,

475
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 1: So keep it how it is, and then you add

476
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 1: a piece and you bring Wiseman off the bench. I

477
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 1: don't know, It's just a thought, right well, there are

478
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Speaker 1: some guys who I think would not agree to that

479
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 1: because of their ego. Clay doesn't. I don't know him personally,

480
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 1: like he doesn't seem like the kind of GUYDA mind

481
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: you think he would be down with that? I don't know.

482
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, he's coming off two major ends,

483
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 1: he hasn't played and how many years a couple of

484
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: years now, So I don't think he would mind just

485
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: warming up to that just to see how I go.

486
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: But how can you say something to what they've been

487
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: doing right now? It's like say, say this happens, you

488
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 1: throw play out there into the fire and to start

489
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: line up. Then they go like six and four in

490
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 1: the next ten. Then what are you thinking, Like, dang,

491
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: we screwed this up. Maybe it'll turn around, but what

492
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: they got going is something good. I'll say, he's him

493
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 1: in there and if he if they still winning and

494
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: playing well, then that maybe his new role. By the way,

495
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 1: you gave us just your your top four in the

496
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Speaker 1: Eastern Conference, where do you put Golden State the number one?

497
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: Right now? For that Golden State is helaked right now?

498
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: They got the number one offense, Number one defense. I

499
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Speaker 1: mean put him above Phoenix. Yeah yeah, right now they're

500
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Speaker 1: above the statistic don't lie there, rated in all different

501
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 1: categories a little bit better than Phoenix. Now Phoenix is

502
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 1: in there also my other teams. I like to say

503
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: it gets tough after after those two. I think Utah

504
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: Jazz is just a step under them. I think the

505
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: Lakers weren't healthy are are right there because they haven't

506
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: had a lot of games where everybody was healthy, and

507
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: so after that, it's a crapshoot, man. I mean, I

508
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 1: don't know who the Clippers are or if even if

509
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: they're gonna get Kauai back Denver. They lost Michael Porter Jr.

510
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 1: A guy they just signed for a long term who

511
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: was supposed to be, you know, up and coming superstar.

512
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 1: And so Dallas that's just a one man show. Porzingis

513
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 1: he's having a great year this year, but we don't

514
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: know he's up and down to many years. So you know,

515
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: right now, let's go to stay Phoenix. We're gonna talk

516
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: specifically about Joel Embiid in a moment, but I do

517
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: want to ask you, like, who are the Philadelphia seventy

518
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: six is? Right now? In your opinion, they lost some

519
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: bead for a bit. He's working way back after the

520
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: COVID stuff. Obviously, no Ben Simmons. Who are these guys? Like,

521
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: where are they where? They are a team that if

522
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons comes back, or if they make the right move,

523
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Speaker 1: that can be a contender because in my eyes and

524
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: beat as an m v P caliber player, in order

525
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: to win a championship, you have to have an m

526
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 1: v P caliber player, and so right now we just

527
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: don't know who they are. They got a bunch of

528
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: talented guys. Tobias Harry, Seth Curry is having a great year.

529
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: Max He's, He's he's probably one of the most improved

530
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 1: players in the league. And so, but without a second

531
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Speaker 1: superstar in the Eastern Conference, they're just not at the

532
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: level of these other teams unless they can find a

533
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Speaker 1: way to implement Ben Simmons, which I think they're not

534
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: gonna do. That relationship is broken, no chance, no chance,

535
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: no chance again. He'll never play for them again. And

536
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: so that's a team that's the middle of a pack,

537
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 1: team that is a player away, I believe. So it's

538
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: interesting because early on they were playing well without them.

539
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: Then they lose them be and clearly you lose em

540
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: B that's a big deal. But I feel like now

541
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,239
Speaker 1: people are realizing, all right, you need a guy there, right,

542
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: maybe the second guy to take the pressure off because MB.

543
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: When you have a second superstar, then you don't put

544
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: the pressure on this guy to performed great every night,

545
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 1: which he is capable of doing because your role players

546
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna be fifty fifty. But when you have another

547
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: great player who's consistent with you, it takes you to

548
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: the next level of the standings in an Eastern conference,

549
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: as far as contending if you could put your GM

550
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: had on for a second, the ultimate deal for the

551
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 1: six Ers to make right now? You talk to dal More,

552
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: you talked to Elton Brand, you know, because it's a

553
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 1: weird one. They don't have a lot of leverage because

554
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 1: everyone knows that the relationship is done. This is handled,

555
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's been handled pretty poorly. Right. You don't

556
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 1: want to let the world know that we don't want

557
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: this guy back, right, so everyone's gonna try to fleece you.

558
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: But if you can pull off the ultimate deal right now,

559
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: I think there's only one deal out there. I really

560
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: true believe if the seventies. Sixers are serious about contending.

561
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: They got to try to find a way to get

562
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: Damian Lillard out of Portlands. I truly believe that Damon Lillard.

563
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: If you watch the Portland Trail Blazers, they're going in

564
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: a whole other direction. They've been in the playoffs every year.

565
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: He's been carrying on their back. But I just think

566
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: it's time for a change of scenery for him. I

567
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: think he needs an opportunity somewhere else to have a

568
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: chance at a championship because it's not happening in Portlands.

569
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: That that relationship in Philly that's done. So if they

570
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: swapped these two superstar Yeah, Damon is a little older,

571
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: but it gives them a window now, and for most

572
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: championship windows, the window is only open like for most

573
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: three or four years. I think he has a three

574
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: week four year period if he was on the Sixers. Now,

575
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: since the Blazers are going in a whole different direction,

576
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: you get a young talent moving forward because clearly the

577
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 1: team as constructed, it's not gonna work as far as

578
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: winning the championship. So now you get a young talent

579
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: there who you can build around and get the fans

580
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: excited for the near future about all so who say

581
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: that actually c J McCom would be the better you know,

582
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: sidekick tempt as as opposed to Damian Lillard. What do

583
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: you say to those people who are these people? How

584
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: do you that the game that the game that their

585
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: games mesh better than if it's Lillard? N M, I

586
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: got a closer and Lillard who's been deep in the playoffs,

587
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: who has Ice cove Vanes, who's one of the seventy

588
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: greatest players, And you're telling me c J match is

589
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: better with and b No, if you're serious about a championship,

590
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: you need a Damian Lillard. Okay, period, There's nothing against

591
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: c J. He's just a tier below literally maybe a

592
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: couple of tiers. Well, we're gonna talk about the Blazers

593
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: in a bit because they've been going through a lot

594
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: as well. They just let go of Neel Littleha. They

595
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: made it to the playoffs eighth straight years. But there's

596
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: a lot going on over there. Let's stick with the

597
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: Sixers for a bit because before they get to the Warriors,

598
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: they go up against the aforementioned Utah Jazz. We need

599
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: to talk about who's on the radar this week. Presented

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Speaker 1: by DraftKings. You got the Sixers and the Jazz on Thursday,

601
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: So before the Sixers play the Warriors on Saturday night,

602
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: they got to go through the Jazz on Thursday, and

603
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: we got a battle of the big man in old

604
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: school battle of the big Man. You got Rudy Gobert,

605
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: who right now is a two to one favorite according

606
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: to Draft Kings to win Defensive Player of the Year,

607
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: and you got Joel Embiide and eighteen to one favorite

608
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: to win the defensive Player of the Year according to

609
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: Draft Kings. I would imagine you're gonna take Rudy, but

610
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: although it's worth taking a flyer on Joel here at

611
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: eighteen to one, No, I'm not giving that to Joe.

612
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: He got so many other responsible You know what this

613
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: reminds me of. This is like the modern day, like

614
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: a chema La Juan versus the kimba matambo. This is

615
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: what that looks like. You know, both tembo, you know

616
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: motambo being Gobert, who's a great defensive player, gave you

617
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: this on night and night out basis two times. I

618
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: think he was a three time defensive player of the year.

619
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Speaker 1: Uh maybe uh Motambo and then and be the modern

620
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: day of Lajoi, who's capable of being a huge impact

621
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: on the defensive end, but his offenses all world And

622
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: so this is a great matchup because one guy is

623
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: just the ultimately defending the other guy. He's probably the

624
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,479
Speaker 1: best offensive big man in the league scoring wise. Does

625
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: go Bert get the respect that he deserves in the

626
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: league at this point? He should not know. He don't

627
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: get the respect because his game is not that sexy.

628
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: I mean, he goes, you know, he just go out there.

629
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: He blocked shots, you know, he rim run and get dunks,

630
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: you know, And so it's not appreciated because the modern

631
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: day big man shoot threes, they dunking on you, more

632
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: versatility to that game, and he's just more of a throwback.

633
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: He is a throwback. But I feel like things the

634
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Speaker 1: tides may be changing a little bit. Look at what

635
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Speaker 1: the Calves are doing right now with Jared Allen and

636
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: Nevin Mobley. I feel like the big man might be

637
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: coming back. Like the Rudy Gobert type of big man

638
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: is kind of in vogue again. Am I crazy? Come on?

639
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: Look what the Caves have been doing. I know the

640
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: Cats aren't the Jazz, but you know, those dudes aren't

641
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: shooting threes. Neither is Gobert. Listen, if your big man

642
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: ain't shooting threes these days, you can't win a championship. Really,

643
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: So the Jazz aren't winning the championship as currently constructed,

644
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: not as currently constructing. What do they missaying? I think

645
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: they need a second superstar. Now Gobert is a different

646
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: type of superstar. You just said he doesn't get the

647
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: respect that he doesn't because he's not a superstar. No,

648
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: I mean he's a defensive star. He's not a superstar.

649
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: That's franchise changing time start. They need another player they

650
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: can rely on, consistent all star, m VP level player.

651
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: You know, as constructed, that team can't win a championship.

652
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: And now Donovan Mitchell has been great. They got tremendous

653
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: dev Jordan Class, Clarkston conn Lee, they got depth, but

654
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: that team can't win the championship as constructed. How weird

655
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: is the situation with with the Sixers and Ben Simmons

656
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: where you have his situation, you have John Wall situation

657
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: where he's not playing. Kimba just got really he can't

658
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: even get like all these point guards not playing. It's weird, right, Yeah,

659
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: it's weird. It's weird. The league is in a whole

660
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: different place right now. There has to be a place

661
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: for John Wall somewhere, you know, to just say he's

662
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: on the team and can't play him. And then you

663
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: got Kimba Walker who looks like he's unplayable according to tips,

664
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: Blake Griffin is unplayable. Like unplayable. I mean these guys

665
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: have These are high i Q players and they find

666
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: ways to help you win games for So for me

667
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: to look at this and to say they're unplayable, it's

668
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: mind boggling. Because to win in this league, you gotta

669
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: have talent, but you gotta have high i Q. All

670
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: the top teams. When you look at the top high

671
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: i Q players, sons look at that high i Q team,

672
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: go to stay high i Q team. And the players

673
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: we mentioned Wall, Kimba, Blake Griffith, although they may not

674
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: be what they used to be, their high i Q

675
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: and you can use them on a championship team. Who, ultimately,

676
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: in your opinion, is to blame for what happened between

677
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: the Simmons situation with with the six years management with

678
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: Doc Rivers, Like, ultimately, who is to blame for There's

679
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: no one to blame. No, No, why is there? This

680
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: is like some little kid arguing argument, Like if I

681
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: say something about my kid and I criticize him, I

682
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: want him to get better. Obviously he didn't take the

683
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: words that Doc and and Be said about him. Okay,

684
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: let's get better. Then they take stuff too personal to this,

685
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: let's just get to blame all this. He took it

686
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: too personally. I think he took it personal. And it's

687
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: like everybody's feelings iss hurt coming. Everybody feelings is hurt. Man.

688
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: Look if coach tell me I need to get better,

689
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: all right, Dan, that's not a knock on me. He's

690
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: telling me I need to get better, all right, And

691
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna going to this summer and get better. And

692
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: I showed him. If they don't like the way I

693
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: got better, than trade me. But I'm not gonna just

694
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: sit out if the Trailblazers don't want to get rid

695
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: of the Lord? Is there another guy out there for

696
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: embiid to realize his potential in this current you know

697
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: window that he has right now because he is playing

698
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: great when he's healthy and it looks like he's getting

699
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: back on track. Is there anyone else out there that

700
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: you think could help him. Yeah, I mean there's a

701
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: lot of players that can help them, but you've got

702
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: to be realistic of who's available. Where is that this

703
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: chrono star rat that John needs to get out? I

704
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: mean John wall is good, but he's not at the

705
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: same level. You know when we talk about Lillard. You

706
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 1: need that that guard or that wingman that can take

707
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: you to the next level. And who who could that be?

708
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: Right now? There's none available. Of course, you could say

709
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: if they added Zach Levine, if they added them in book,

710
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: and those guys aren't available though, so you have to

711
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: be realistic of like, what guys can we bring in

712
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: here that can help get the sixers and then met

713
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: over the top. And there's not one guy out there

714
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: realistically that's available. All right, So thank you very much

715
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: to DraftKings for those odds. Now, let's secure the bag.

716
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 1: Are good friends over at money Lying. I've been looking

717
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: forward to this segment the whole day. Yeah, well, I'm

718
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: not about to carry the bag. I mean, I don't

719
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: make any money, but I do like talking about the

720
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: New York Knicks. The New York knickabaka is the Orange

721
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: and Blue. Uh, it's been a weird season, to say

722
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: the least. They pay all this money to Julius Randall guaranteed.

723
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: I mean you talk about fifties six million guaranteed in

724
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: that three year deal. You've got Kemba Walker with the

725
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: two year deal, You've got Evan Fournier with his big contract,

726
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: You've got Derreck Rose with his big contract. And they're

727
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: kind of hovering around five hundred. Uh. Kemba has been

728
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: relegated to the bench, not not to the bench in

729
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: terms of like six man, seventh man, not playing d

730
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: NP city. What do you make of the state of

731
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: the New York Knicks right now based on their contract situation,

732
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: based on their players. You gotta get credit the tips

733
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,919
Speaker 1: though he's done a remarkable job. Now, maybe they haven't

734
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: made the smartest decisions as far as signing players, but

735
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: I do believe Julius Randall All Star most implue player.

736
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: Good great deal. Good deal when you based it upon

737
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: what's guys have been paid around given a bit of

738
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: a hometown discount as well. Yeah, and so no problem there.

739
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: He hasn't. He hasn't like disappointed you because some people

740
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: are saying teams are figuring him out. I mean he's

741
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: still consistently twenty and ten consistent. I'll take that. Yeah,

742
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: But when you look at Walker's contract, now you're saying

743
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: he's making nine million a year roughly guarantee it's like

744
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: to not be playing. I'm not sure what they think

745
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: about that now. The one thing that's positive is what

746
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: he brings for that nine million. Great character, great leadership,

747
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: great locker room guy. And now you ask yourself, is

748
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: that worth nine million? So some teams that is so

749
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 1: the next they can't afford that they need production with

750
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 1: that nine million, and so I'm not sure how much

751
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: that's not really a good bargain for them. They need

752
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: players out there. So what are you making the decision to,

753
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: you know, relegate him DMP City. You don't move up

754
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 1: Derrick Rows into at the starting lineup, who I think

755
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: has been a great investment for them. I think I

756
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: think he's worth every penny that he's been getting. He

757
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: plays really well with tips. Of course, you keep Rose

758
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: and Emmanuel quickly on the bench. They have great chemistry.

759
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 1: That second unit is doing great things. You move Alec

760
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: Burk's who doesn't have a history of playing point guard,

761
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: to the starting lineup. Do you like that decision, or

762
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: should they have broke up Rosen quickly and just put

763
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,479
Speaker 1: Rose in the starting lineup. Like when you say these names,

764
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 1: it sounds good, right, But this league is all about

765
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: the analytics. And so when you look at the analytics

766
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: of having there's a reason Burke, who's not a point guard,

767
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: it's thrown into the point guard situation because of the analytics.

768
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: And with him in the lineup, there are better a

769
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 1: lot better defensive team. He has some scoring, some versatilities,

770
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: some versatility to when they're going to pick a role.

771
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: He's big enough to switch on the bigger guys. That's

772
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: it's about that. It's about the analytics. Now, when you

773
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 1: look at it on paper as a fan, you're like, dang,

774
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: if they said Kimba shouldn't there, Rose should be, shouldn't

775
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: he be starting point guard? But the analytics don't say

776
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,919
Speaker 1: that he's better coming off the bench. And so we've

777
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: become an analytical league. Now. It doesn't matter what's your

778
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: name is, how have you done in the past. When

779
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: we look at these numbers, this doesn't work. And that's

780
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: why we see guys like Kimba not even playing, Guys

781
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: like Blake Griffin not even playing. And that's what it

782
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 1: is today. The two guys who I want to see

783
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: step up Mitchell Robinson and r J. Barrett. Mitchell's progression

784
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: and his evolution, his improvement has been a little slow.

785
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: He gets injured a lot this year not so much.

786
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: He makes some questionable decisions on defense. He is so

787
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: long and good in the pain, but he's just I

788
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: don't know, there's something very raw about him. Have you

789
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: had a chance to watch him? And do you feel

790
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: like they need to upgrade? You know, obviously they're gonna

791
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: do something with Kemba, but which position do they need?

792
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: Maybe they need that other superstar as well, maybe a

793
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: guy named Damian Lillard. How about Kemba versus Damian Lillard.

794
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: That's the deal right there. No nobody's training. I love

795
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: it though. The Nicks just need to grow for with them.

796
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: Man got a solid foundation, you know, uh, they got leadership.

797
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: They just need to grow with from within. I mean

798
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: r J. Barrett is a young talent. They need to

799
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: try to find more young talent. You know, they're not

800
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 1: a championship team anytime soon, so they just gotta continue

801
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: to grow from within, you know, maybe through trade or

802
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: draft picks. But you know the good thing about it,

803
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: they're more exciting to watch. And that's all New York

804
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: fans ever. Won is just getting an exciting team to watch.

805
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: There are reports recently which state that the only team

806
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: Damian would leave the Blazers for are the Knicks. I

807
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: just don't know if the Knicks have anything to offer

808
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: the Blazers right now. No, not right now, And I

809
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: mean it has to be a package revolved around their

810
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: young guys, all J. Barrett, probably r J, probably Mitchell Robinson, Robinson. Yeah,

811
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: so if the Blazers are willing to take that may

812
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 1: I mean, he's getting a lot of money now he

813
00:39:53,920 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: has to trade, right man. He had a great Olympics. Olympics.

814
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: When you when you do the US a team like that,

815
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: I didn't seen a couple of players get the bag

816
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: from great Olympics, and so I can't knock him. But

817
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: we know Eving for you who he was before that

818
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: spoken as a true Celtics fan right here, all right,

819
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: coming up, Also, we've got to give a shout out

820
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: to Matt and Stephen Jackson. They are the guys who

821
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Speaker 1: usually yes, jack thank you, yes, respect Um. I would

822
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Speaker 1: say my guys, but I've never met Matt and I've

823
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: only met Stephen once, but he seems like a lovely individual.

824
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Speaker 1: They do this show. I don't know if you heard,

825
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: it's called All the Smoke, All the Smoke. Yeah, have

826
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: you been on it? Yeah? I've been on All the Smokes.

827
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Speaker 1: The hottest show out Barne, regardless of sport, regardless of

828
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: YouTube channel, regardless, All the Smoke. And our friend, our

829
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Speaker 1: mutual friend, Jalen Rose, the big man from Detroit, is

830
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 1: actually their their next guest. New episode draw this Thursday,

831
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: December nine. Here's a teaser from that episode. How did

832
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: that commercial come about? So no question? Shout to his

833
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: lovely wife Vanessa and prayers to the family. I saw them, um, yeah,

834
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: at the Palms Hotel. I used to go there. I

835
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 1: used to play craft Dash like the Gumbo there and

836
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: we Lucy used to own the Kings or whatever. I

837
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: used to be there a lot. And I think it

838
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: was date night for him and the wife. And I

839
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: saw them at the Telly. I mean I saw him

840
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 1: at the restaurant, and of course I was gonna go

841
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: over there and say what up? Because I used to

842
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: always going there, Like they just lost the dish. I

843
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: used to like, and I was like, damn, they go cold,

844
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: go say what to him? And I looked down at

845
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: the table and they had a few martinis on the table.

846
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, I'm getting it in. Okay, good,

847
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: you know, congratulations whatever whatever, And that image always stuck

848
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: with me, and I was like, all right. And so

849
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: when the idea was pitched to me initially about doing

850
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: a pie that Jane and versus everybody like like a

851
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: spin about like being in the media and being a

852
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: single dad and all of that was pitched to me.

853
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 1: One of the things we thought about was doing something

854
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: that related to the eighty one point game. And we

855
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: were talking more and more about it, and I was like,

856
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: let's let's pretend he like something about eighty one Martinez.

857
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: That's that. That's because because to me it was just

858
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: two of them, and they probably had like four or

859
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: five glasses, it looked like ten or left. Right, So

860
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 1: that image always stuck with me because I never saw

861
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,959
Speaker 1: him have fun. Right, I never saw him have fun.

862
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: I didn't, you know, I didn't. I didn't until you

863
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: called me and I went out with him and Kobe.

864
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: I brought him out and what was its me and

865
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: get it in up like Jack Jack, what we're doing,

866
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: Like do whatever? Cole want to go out? Cold, want

867
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: to go out? I would always go to my room

868
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: and the smoke Milwaukee bro, Let's do something. And so literally, um,

869
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: we asked him to be on NBA Countdown that morning.

870
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: I think he had to arrive at like ten or eleven,

871
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: and so we kind of wrote up the treatment and

872
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: kind of sent them the idea of how I wanted

873
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: to shoot the pilot. And he loved it. And the

874
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: thing is that I love so much about it is

875
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: I gave that away. If you look at it, it

876
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: has no logos on it, It has no advertisement, Like

877
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: I paid for that. I shot it. I put it out.

878
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: My name not even on it. Like people see it

879
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: and try to clown me. Not that is mine, that

880
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: I produced it. You see what I'm saying. I did

881
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: that for him because like I'm such a fan of his.

882
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: And he took that and met a guy that worked

883
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: on my show Jalen and Your Kobe, and he hired

884
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 1: him and that became a production partner that he used

885
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: become a war winning producers. Appreciate that he hired him

886
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: to work force production. I love the backstory because I

887
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: never had like, I was like, damn, they came with

888
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: Jayden of that idea or that was cold, like I

889
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 1: didn't know whose idea it was, but it was super creative.

890
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 1: It was dope, all right. So Jalen Rose upcoming guests

891
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: on All the Smoke, looking forward to that very much. Okay,

892
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 1: we need to talk about the Portland Trailblazers. A little

893
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: status check, if you will, on the Blazers. So they

894
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: just fired Neil o'sha. Obviously they were a great, like

895
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: a model franchise in terms of consistency. They would make

896
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: the playoffs eight straight years, longest streak in the in

897
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: the game. They made the Western Finals not that long ago,

898
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: two years ago. But it seems as though, you know,

899
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: they're at a crossroads right now. They fire him after

900
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: this internal investigation. Uh you you fire your head coach

901
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: at the end of the last season, Terry Stotts, You

902
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: bring in Chauncey Billups. Currently Jamian Lillard is injured. What

903
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: is the issue right now? I mean that question is, man,

904
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: I think the best move going forward is for them

905
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: to look to try to rebuild, rebuild it, blow it up.

906
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 1: I mean, clearly, Damon Lillard. He's getting older, his window

907
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 1: is closing. So if you can find him a happy place,

908
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: Chauncey and up and coming coach. Uh. You know he

909
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: has great character. I've been on Chauncey pretty much my

910
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: whole life, and I knew what he would become a

911
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: head coach. But I just think with the situations around

912
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: the whole, surrounding the whole Blazers franchise, I think it's

913
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: time to blow it up truthfully, give Chauncey a fresh start,

914
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: some young players that he can develop. Guys who have

915
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: been in this system too long see that it's not working.

916
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 1: There on a treadmill running in place, and I think

917
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: it it'll just be a better environment, a better environment

918
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: for everyone, just to clear clear the air, clean it

919
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: all up and start ash. I think that's the best

920
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: move going forward because obviously things aren't working up their

921
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: important Did you agree initially with the move to fire

922
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: Terry starts Man Listen? Coaches longevity, Like I said, somebody

923
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: has to get the blame where you're in a position

924
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: and you're not getting over the top, and it's usually

925
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: gonna be your franchise superstar or the coach. And so

926
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: they made a choice. Damon Lennard meant too much to

927
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: this team, to this community, stops in his own right.

928
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: Has been a great coach. But I've seen great coaches

929
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: get fired. We we saw George carl win coach of

930
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: the Year and got fired the next year. And so,

931
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: but when the team isn't meeting expectations from a from

932
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: the franchise point of view, it's time to move on.

933
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: Chauncey recently called out the team for not giving enough effort.

934
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: Man got blown out at home. They're they're a great

935
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 1: team at home, They're a horrible team on the road.

936
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 1: It's like jacklin Hyde. But have from what you've seen,

937
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: are they not playing, you know, up to their potential?

938
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 1: Are they not giving him maximum effort? I think it's

939
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: inconsistent effort. But you gotta understand it's easier to play

940
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: at home. This is where you play every night. This

941
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: is where you practice. Uh, this is where you're comfortable. Uh.

942
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: The road is a different situation. You know, you you

943
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 1: only there once or twice a year. You're traveling, you're

944
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: in different hotels, you don't get the same type of

945
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: comfort you do at home. And so I don't think

946
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: it's about effort because I've been on teams that were

947
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: great at home bad on the road, and so you know,

948
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: it's just role players play better at home than they

949
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 1: do on the road. And check the statistics. It says

950
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: it says that. But they could be a little more consistent, uh,

951
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: if they want more in the role, but that's just

952
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: who they are right now. No consistency either way. Do

953
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 1: you think Lillard gets traded before the deadline? I don't

954
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: think Lillard gets traded before the deadline because a player

955
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: of that caliber, it's hard to trade man season. You know,

956
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: he would have to demand a trade. I think this

957
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: is something that's gonna happen in the off season and

958
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: so but if it does, it'll be very surprising. But

959
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: I think they are in definite need of a shake up.

960
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: So it's interesting because you said the best candidate to

961
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: play alongside Dwell and Beat if you trade Ben Simmons

962
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: would be Damian Lillard. But if you say he doesn't

963
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: get traded this season, only in the off season, that

964
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: means the Sixers are going the full season without Simmons

965
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: and not rectifying. That's a mess to tie these two

966
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: together that we just spoke about that if you. If

967
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: you notice the Sixers also said they're not trading Ben

968
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: Simmons until the season is over. Awesome, So that's why

969
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: I don't think nothing gets done. Okay, so you think

970
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: ultimately he ends up there. I want him to for

971
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: selfish reasons. I want to see Damon Litter have an

972
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: opportunity to play with another great player, to have an

973
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: opportunity to win the championship. And what about c J McCollum.

974
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: Does he stay in this rebuilder? Of course, if you

975
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: trade Damon, then you gotta find a home for CJ. Right, maybe, uh,

976
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: Boston Celtics. Who know? Interesting? Um? Could you again putting

977
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: you on the spot here as I like to do,

978
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: But is there an executive out there that you think

979
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: would be good for this team? They're they're going through

980
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: the search right now. Is there a name out there,

981
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: young guy, someone that you know, A bright mind in

982
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: the game, man, a bright mind and together than you,

983
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: of course, because I would be a good one to

984
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: you want to throw your name in the hat? Yeah,

985
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: I mean that would be the end of the truth

986
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: in the nose. It would be pretty short lived, man,

987
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: Some young bright minds out there. I mean, I would

988
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: have to first, start thinking about like some former players

989
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: who understand the game, Uh, maybe understand the business. Talk

990
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: to Scott Perry from the next Scott Perry. I mean,

991
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: Scott has been good. You know, he's slid, got great character,

992
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: well known throughout league circles. Can I throw one out

993
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: there for you, the wild card? About this wild card

994
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: I got, you know very well former Blazer turned into

995
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: one of the brightest minds in the history of the game.

996
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: From executive level. You with me here Number forty four,

997
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: Danny ain't Danny. I don't think that. I don't think

998
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: Danny is once. He doesn't. I don't think I think

999
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 1: Danny's retired. He's enjoying this. I know he's not old,

1000
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: but he's he's enjoying his life right now, man, I

1001
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: think right now off the start, they should hire put

1002
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: Chauncey in that role. Yeah, that doesn't work well, but

1003
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: historically it's been done many times, many times. His plane. Well,

1004
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: you understand, Chauncey got interviewed for GM positions before he

1005
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: got into coach positions, and so I think a dual

1006
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: role for him. Uh. He understands the game, he understands

1007
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: I think how to mix the right pieces together, and uh,

1008
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: you know, I think that would be a great role

1009
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: for Chauncey because the coach always know what they need

1010
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: and what they want, you know, and then you hire

1011
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: a numbers guy who can, you know, do the numbers stuff.

1012
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: But a coach knows the needs of the team and

1013
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: the once more so than the GM. You just need

1014
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: a guy who can just understand the numbers and working

1015
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: a certain type of trades out. All right, So we

1016
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: shall see how that whole situation plays out. This has

1017
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: been fun, my friend. This has been a lot. Have

1018
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: you had a lot of fun today? I have had

1019
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: a lot of fun, had a good conversation. Yeah, you

1020
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: enjoyed it and flowing, you know, proving to the world

1021
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: that a Nick and a Celtic can come together. I mean,

1022
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: of course I didn't play. I mean, I didn't play

1023
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: for the team, but I'm sort of like thirty years.

1024
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: That's what I hate about fans hate me. I thought you,

1025
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: I thought we actually broke some tears. I can't say

1026
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: the royal we now, you can't say WoT in the

1027
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: locker room. I mean, you wasn't with them shooting in

1028
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: the gym. I was there rooting them on praying on

1029
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: their behalf. When Patrick breaks his wrist, I'm praying to

1030
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: the gods first bed recovery. Wow. Okay, see typical Celtics

1031
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: hater fan right over here. You guys need to get that.

1032
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 1: How come it can't be truth? I'm sitting right here. Yeah, true,

1033
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm sitting right here. Truth. It's true. When you cheer

1034
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: on a team for thirty years, can't Spike say well

1035
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: you hate the truth? Yeah? Literallytily, What about the work

1036
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: that we're doing here at showtime boxing basketball? You're doing

1037
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: some boxing work as well. Boxing and basketball culture go

1038
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: hand in hand because when you watch the fights over

1039
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: the years, you're seeing all the hoopers in the stands,

1040
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: and they're nice suits and they're nice pretty women and

1041
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: go hand in hand. Or in the locker room you

1042
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: might have been in plenty of locker rooms or Pacia Mayweather.

1043
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: Boxing and NBA culture go hand in hand. You've been

1044
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: to a lot of fights over the years. Yeah, absolutely,

1045
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 1: that's when you've been to live biggest ones, live fight

1046
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: I've been to. I gotta say the fight between Mayweather

1047
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: and Canelo Alvarez favorite fights. It's one of my favorite

1048
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: fights I've been to live. Also, the Tarver, Roy Jones

1049
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: back in the day. Oh, man, I'd have been some

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Speaker 1: spectacular fights. But those two jumped to my mind. Who

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Speaker 1: introduced you to boxing? Like had you become a fan? Man?

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Speaker 1: Just family and friends. Growing up it was we was

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Speaker 1: a boxing. We always tuned it in. Uh all the

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Speaker 1: way back to Sugar Ray, Mike Tyson. I've always been

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Speaker 1: excited about boxing, man, It's just always been part of

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Speaker 1: the culture. Best fighter in uh in the NBA, who

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Speaker 1: could be the best boxer because you the Ron Williams

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Speaker 1: going over right? Yeah, I'm going to that be there.

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Speaker 1: You gonna be there too. Has boxer in the NBA

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Speaker 1: right now who nobody would probably want to put hands with.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, uh damn, just straight up hands. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say at the wing, Oh that's a good one.

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Speaker 1: I'll throw one out. James Johnson. James Johnson, I'm like

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Speaker 1: a seven time kickboxing His parents are kicking at seen it? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they talk about it. Where nobody got no foot I

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Speaker 1: don't see what you call show us the footage or

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Speaker 1: we don't believe you anymore. I heard, I heard. But

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Speaker 1: like if you talk about if you look on the

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Speaker 1: NBA players, and you'd be like, man, I've been here

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Speaker 1: and knock some foods out. Yeah, I gotta say, man,

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Speaker 1: you're honest. Brother looked pretty intimidated. Yeah, oh wait. Now

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Speaker 1: the dude I just waterboy for the bucks. Look when

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Speaker 1: there was in the playoffs, when he was standing by brothers,

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Speaker 1: saw I looked like they wanted to get down with somebody.

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Speaker 1: I forget who it was. Okay, I'll give you a

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Speaker 1: great tag team boxing matches. Doesn't happen onto the Kopa

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Speaker 1: brothers against the Yok brothers. Those dudes, they don't want

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Speaker 1: no smoker. Now, who's there the Yoker brothers. I want

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Speaker 1: no smoke with the Greeks. What are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: Have you seen those guys? Yeah, got tattoos for days.

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Speaker 1: They're scary. Listen, just like sitting there in the front

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Speaker 1: root the tattoo. You can put a thousand tattoos all

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Speaker 1: you look scary? Man? You don't think those dude look scary? Man?

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Speaker 1: About the look when I look at the scoopfol brothers,

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Speaker 1: Nay looks scary. I don't know about that. I'll take

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Speaker 1: the Yoka brothers any day. Brothers. If you're out there,

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Speaker 1: I'll love here. I don't know about this guy, um,

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Speaker 1: but we'll see, we'll see. I'm looking forward to that.

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Speaker 1: Darren Williams against Frank Or you're going you gotta go

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Speaker 1: with you brother, we played together. I'm going with That's right,

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Speaker 1: all right? So that goes down December eight in Tampa.

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Speaker 1: We're at a time. This has been fun. Any final thoughts,

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Speaker 1: anything you want to say in conclusion, final thoughts, This

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Speaker 1: has probably been the most fun you've ever had in

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Speaker 1: your career right here. If you haven't checked out the

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Speaker 1: KG doc. Checked that out Russell Westbrook Westbrook, that doc

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Speaker 1: is pretty dope. And so uh you know, maybe I

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Speaker 1: have one coming soon to Oh really can I executive

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Speaker 1: produce it? Well, we'll see, all right. This has been

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Speaker 1: you on TikTok? Are your kids? Are you let them

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Speaker 1: do it? The dancing and all that? I mean, the kids,

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Speaker 1: but you're not there. You are on Twitter and Instagram.

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Speaker 1: On Twitter, I just started following you. Could I get

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Speaker 1: a follow back? Alright? Come you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: All right, come on left me hanging Twitter on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna block him now. Uh and TikTok check out

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