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Speaker 2: It's our guy, Jeff Schwartz. Jeff, good to be with

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Speaker 2: you again this morning.

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Speaker 3: Uh, good morning. I'm all fired up today.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: We have just some dummies that have access to the

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Speaker 3: Internet and we need to change some of the comments

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Speaker 3: being made by But people got certain situations that happen

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Speaker 3: in sports, and that's why I'm here to do so,

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Speaker 3: and I'm excited to be with you. And you're right.

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Speaker 3: The NFL, by the way, the combine like starts like

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Speaker 3: in two days, like it's like and if it never stops.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it took took a deep breath. Last week we

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Speaker 2: had a lot of oxygen, uh spent talking about Justin

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Speaker 2: Fields and his Instagram account. Did you follow it? Did

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Speaker 2: you then follow it?

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Speaker 3: I have unfollowed caring about Justin Fields. No, look, Justin

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Speaker 3: Field is going to be I don't know if he's

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Speaker 3: gonna be traded. He will not be the quarterback of

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Speaker 3: the Bears next season, And I know it's hard for people,

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Speaker 3: assuming for players to really deal with that. Sometimes where

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Speaker 3: we're where and I totally understand is frustration. I do

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Speaker 3: sympathize with the idea that when we open up social media,

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Speaker 3: everyone's talking about you know, whether or not everyone's a

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Speaker 3: strong word, but enough people are talking about his status

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Speaker 3: as the bearst quarterback to where that is frustrating to him.

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Speaker 3: Like I understand that that that sentiment, like that, I

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Speaker 3: get that sympathy, but also you're being childish and immature,

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Speaker 3: but on following the Bears on Instagram, like you know,

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Speaker 3: exactly what that's gonna look like. You know, people are

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Speaker 3: paying attention to that. You know what, you're You're not

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Speaker 3: You're not You're not dumb. You know what social media is.

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Speaker 3: You're of that age to understand what social media has become.

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Speaker 3: And I think that there is immature of him to

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Speaker 3: do that, because here's the thing. It doesn't it's not

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Speaker 3: like they're gonna be like, you know what, guys, justin Fields.

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Speaker 3: He then follow us on Instagram. You know what, We're

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Speaker 3: not drafting Killer Williams anymore. You know, it's it's not

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Speaker 3: the way it works.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kevin Warren and uh Ryan Poles and company, if

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Speaker 2: they're swayed by that, well then they feed into every

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Speaker 2: narrative I've had about the Bears and most of the

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Speaker 2: teams I follow in Chicago forever. Jeff, Yes, it really

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Speaker 2: would just fall in line.

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Speaker 3: So it's just it's just it comes off to me

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Speaker 3: is immature for a franchise quarterback to act out in

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Speaker 3: this way again, like you want to be upset about this, man,

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Speaker 3: I get it. And then the you know, the the

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Speaker 3: excuse of like, well I just didn't want to see

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Speaker 3: it at my feet. I mean I went to the

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Speaker 3: NFL Instagram feed that it's just chiefs and you can mute

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Speaker 3: you know of it, And so I just didn't understand

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Speaker 3: the point of all that other than just to I

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Speaker 3: guess again to be a little immature about the situation.

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Speaker 3: But look, it is, it is what it is. They're

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Speaker 3: drafting Kaya Williams or Drake may or or by or

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Speaker 3: mind you, I could see the Commander's brand new owner,

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Speaker 3: new coach Kayleb Williams from is from the area, saying, like,

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Speaker 3: what's straight up to one and get killer, especially if

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Speaker 3: if the especially if the the bear sort of have

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Speaker 3: equal grades on fields, excuse me, Williams or Drake May

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Speaker 3: where they don't feel it's compelled to have to take

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Speaker 3: Williams certainly possible or even Jane Daniels. I think that

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Speaker 3: would be probably I would not take two guys over

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Speaker 3: Kayleb Williams, but it's possible. They they're okay with trading back,

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Speaker 3: but they're not going to roll with justin Fields next day.

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Speaker 3: You just can't, like, you just can't do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that it's just a curiosity, you know,

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Speaker 2: for me sitting there as the south Side Chicago kid

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Speaker 2: technically two years before you have to pay him crazy

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Speaker 2: money and make that decision. But you can use the

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Speaker 2: one or you know, let Washington pay their ransom. Now

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Speaker 2: you add Marvin Harris, and now you add whomever else offense, defense,

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Speaker 2: number of extra pieces, number of extra draft picks, and

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Speaker 2: even if you know fields then becomes due. You've now

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Speaker 3: I don't think you can. I think think if you're

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Speaker 3: the Bears and you basically have decided to pass up

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Speaker 3: on two straight years of draft picks of quarterbacks to

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Speaker 3: draft other players, you're just building your team wrong. I would.

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Speaker 3: I would. I would even suggest you draft the quarterback

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Speaker 3: you find one every season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about that a little last week, like

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Speaker 2: the you know, it's like the Bachelor. The final day

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Speaker 2: of the draft, that's all you draft is quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Right, But I think that also, you know you can

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Speaker 3: the Bears can can get out of this draft with

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Speaker 3: Kile boys of Roman done Zay like you can have.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's an a plus for how to hit.

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Speaker 3: You trade it out of Bryce Young's pick, because you

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Speaker 3: know you know that made sense. Okay, you got a

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Speaker 3: bunch of draft picks. Instead of Bryce Young, you get

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Speaker 3: kill Williams, and then you have Roman Doones a men.

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Speaker 2: Right run?

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Speaker 3: Like yes, like like that that is that for the Bears.

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Speaker 3: That is exactly how I would play it, and that

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Speaker 3: that you get a plus for that. Look, it doesn't

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Speaker 3: mean it's gonna work. I mean, you know, like I

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Speaker 3: think there is something to the idea that, like the

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Speaker 3: Bears have really been cursed with quarterbacks, and how do

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Speaker 3: you sort of break that curse. It's Kileb Williams, that guy,

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Speaker 3: and I certain think he can be that. But I

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Speaker 3: think there's some of that in me where it's like, well,

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Speaker 3: and have they done enough that that's a home run?

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Speaker 3: Kayleb Williams, Rom Dj Moore. You know it's a it's

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Speaker 3: a deep offensive line draft. You go the second round,

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Speaker 3: the I think the Bears are sortaly going in that direction. Again,

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Speaker 3: I understand fields saying, hey, man, I'm sort of tired

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Speaker 2: But except for grading his own but I just again, like.

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Speaker 3: You just come off as you know, you're you're supposed

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Speaker 3: don't like the the social media stuff, Like I don't

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Speaker 3: quarterback job. Right, Like if a little bit of this

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Speaker 3: you know, publicly, Again, you can guess I sympathize with

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Speaker 3: It's just you know, it's childish.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm looking at a number of former number one

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Speaker 2: I think he fought with half the people here on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio at some point, right, The obvious long

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Speaker 2: thing with coward, my guy Smith and I. There were

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Speaker 2: out all right, to the bucketeers bringing back or is

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Speaker 2: he a you know, a domino to fall somewhere else.

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Speaker 3: Look, I think it certainly is difficult for younger players

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Speaker 3: You I, we got Facebook. I'm thirty seven. We got

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Speaker 3: twenty eleven.

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Speaker 2: Had time to kill.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Like, so it's it's difficult for these players, I

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Speaker 3: think to navigate a world where you you go on

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Speaker 3: know you mentioned Begger Mayfa. I mean Bigger Mayfe is matured, right,

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Speaker 3: He's gotten older, He's maturity. Realize that that's not you know,

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Speaker 3: that's not what my part of my life I wanted

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Speaker 3: just think it was a raw raw moves, a strong

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Speaker 3: word it. You just should have done.

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Speaker 2: It, Yeah, I think. Yeah, he does the podcast with

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Speaker 2: the Saint Brown Brothers and has all those comments and

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Speaker 2: and all about getting away from it, and like part

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Speaker 2: of me is like all right. It's also the calculation

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Speaker 2: of you know, in Chicago right now, Jeff and and

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Speaker 2: you know, local radio stations and everybody doing their polls

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Speaker 2: of what the Bears should.

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Speaker 3: Do with the number one pick.

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Speaker 2: They're about dead, even of you know, taking Williams, keeping

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Speaker 2: Fields and trading the pick or going to secret option.

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Speaker 2: See someone who is in Caleb Williams, Right, That's that's

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Speaker 2: the distant third option. But the first two have been

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Speaker 2: fifty so to some degree it's the all right, it's

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Speaker 2: motivated people to speak out on his behalf, so he's

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Speaker 2: initially thought in terms of those debates.

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Speaker 3: This is why, this is why fans are not are

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Speaker 3: not the general managers.

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Speaker 2: That's very well put.

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Speaker 3: Like you're like, just it you, there's no you have

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Speaker 3: no other option if you if you pass, I know,

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Speaker 3: Bryce sug might not end up being any good. But

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Speaker 3: if you press on on Bryce Young, c J. Stroud,

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Speaker 3: Caleb Williams, Drake May and Janeen Daniels keep fields for

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Speaker 3: one more year, then realize that he's not your guy.

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Speaker 3: Oh buddy, it's bad.

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Speaker 2: Football, Bears football, It's just bad ball.

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Speaker 3: And I think something that it's certainly worth consideration is

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Speaker 3: that Ryan Pouls, the Bear general manager, did not draft

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Speaker 3: Justin Fields.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: He has no ties to Justin Fields other than obviously

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Speaker 3: just seeing him the last polls the job two years now.

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Speaker 3: There's no there's no tie, there's no emotional tie. Look,

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Speaker 3: emotions are part of life, they're part of sports. And

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Speaker 2: One of the tenets of the Mike Skryzewski era that

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Speaker 3: Well, the worst thing about this is that wick Force

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Speaker 3: So let's get that out of the way. Here's my

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Speaker 2: But you get a wave behind you. So all of

432
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Speaker 2: a sudden, I'm getting pushed into one of the players

433
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Speaker 2: and he took a swing for I'm five ft nothing,

434
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 2: and I'm like, dude, It's like it was like, this

435
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,160
Speaker 2: is not me, it's this wave behind you. Man, I'm sorry,

436
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 2: but again, but I understood.

437
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So when when I we I had twice in

438
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 3: college is like obviously a college phenomenon, not really nothing

439
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 3: in the NFL. There were two times I remember I

440
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 3: was the road team, we lost and the fans rushed

441
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Speaker 3: the field. And then two times vice you know, when

442
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Speaker 3: I was the home team and we won and fans

443
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 3: rushed the field. The thing about Oregon Stadium Autin Stadium

444
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Speaker 3: is that it takes a while for the fans get

445
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Speaker 3: on the field the way it's constructed, So for the

446
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Speaker 3: most part, the visiting team has time to get off

447
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 3: the field. But the two times I was, I was

448
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 3: in this situation Oregon State in Arizona, the fans are

449
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 3: right there. They rushed the field like you know, you're

450
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Speaker 3: They're on the field in three seconds, just like we

451
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Speaker 3: saw last night, and both games I had to like

452
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Speaker 3: raise my fist up as fans ran towards me to

453
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Speaker 3: make sure like I was mean business like, don't do

454
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Speaker 3: not touch me. Like it unless you've been in that

455
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Speaker 3: situation before. And I'm not saying it's one of the

456
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 3: things where like, oh, I know because I was in it. Before.

457
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Speaker 3: But like, imagine you're leaving work and a hundred people

458
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 3: run full speed at you. You're probably gonna put your

459
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Speaker 3: hands up to defend yourself like it's And that is

460
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Speaker 3: why I think it's hard to defend it sometimes because

461
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Speaker 3: just think about that, Like, think about if you were

462
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Speaker 3: at your job and someone again, you just finished your day,

463
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 3: you had a bad day, and someone comes up to

464
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Speaker 3: you and tries to like tell you you suck to

465
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Speaker 3: your face and presumably tries to make physical contact with you,

466
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Speaker 3: You're probably gonna tell him like you wouldn't do exactly

467
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Speaker 3: what what we saw last night. So I sympathize with

468
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Speaker 3: the player to your point about like, you know, you

469
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Speaker 3: almost got hit, Like I sort of get it.

470
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't said blade him. I may have also

471
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: offered him the gum that he threw into the crowd

472
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 2: back to him.

473
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Speaker 3: Okay, well that's the oh.

474
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Speaker 2: Because it hit me in the chest. I wasn't the

475
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Speaker 2: guy cursing him out. I didn't care, Like, but you know,

476
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Speaker 2: I'm loud and I'm noxious, and I'm right in the

477
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Speaker 2: front row, and I guess that that would have been

478
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Speaker 2: the I would have been the perfect guy. But Jalen

479
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 2: Rose was actually the peacemaker that day. But let's hear

480
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Speaker 2: from John Shire. He had some comments in the post

481
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Speaker 2: game analysis, why do we get to ban court stormy,

482
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 2: Like why do we get to ban that?

483
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Speaker 8: Like how many times does a player have to get

484
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Speaker 8: into something where they get punched or they get pushed

485
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Speaker 8: or they get taunted right in their face? And if

486
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Speaker 8: it's a dangerous thing, you look around the country and

487
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 8: Caitlin Clark, something happens and now Flip, I don't know

488
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 8: what his status is gonna be. He frames his ankle,

489
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Speaker 8: and it's one thing like when I played, at least

490
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Speaker 8: there was ten seconds in the court.

491
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Speaker 3: You know, you was storing the court.

492
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Speaker 8: Now it's the buzzer doesn't even go off and they're

493
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Speaker 8: they're running.

494
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Speaker 5: On the floor.

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Speaker 3: He again, he's right about the amount of time, Like

496
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 3: these guys are on the court so fast now, right

497
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 3: that it can really again like it's like we saw yesterday.

498
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Speaker 3: I mean, he didn't have time to even take a

499
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Speaker 3: step and he was already being contacted. So I think

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Speaker 3: I do think that that is a it's a I

501
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 3: think it's a problem. But I'm not one of those

502
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 3: who thinks like there has to be a ban on it. Yeah, well,

503
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 3: because I actually think it's unrealistic to have a ban

504
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 3: on it, Like what are you gonna do just there

505
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 3: unless you put it like a wall.

506
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 2: No, but that's just it, right, All of a sudden,

507
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 2: there's bars like you're in fake jail, like you're at

508
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 2: the bottom of the old veteran stadium or a soldier field.

509
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 2: Who wants that though, But that's just it, right, All right,

510
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 2: it's done. They've got twenty seconds, all right, now when

511
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: I press this plunger, this is gonna go down ready

512
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 2: three two? I mean that's just insane, right, And the

513
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 2: free throws that that were hit were with a and

514
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 2: lefts to give the four point lead. Okay, so now

515
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 2: it's over. But it's not like the game was done

516
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: before that, right, because I've seen a lot. It's like, well,

517
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 2: they knew they were going to lose, and this like

518
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 2: with one second left, that's like some long time out,

519
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 2: some long break where they're up fifteen. So you can

520
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 2: see it building. Yeah, it's it's there, and the energy

521
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: is palpable. But any thought of hey they should have

522
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 2: just sprinted, I can't get on with that, Like you're

523
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 2: like the final buzz.

524
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Speaker 3: But look, but also like, why should the players who

525
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Speaker 3: just who you're there to watch, who just played this game,

526
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 3: Why should they have to sprint off the court because

527
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Speaker 3: angry drunk fans are going to attack them. Attacks the

528
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 3: wrong word, but you know, you know, for the purposes

529
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Speaker 3: of this, Yeah, I mean, but I mean, whether it's

530
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 3: real or perception attack, I think it is a word

531
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Speaker 3: that works here. Well, again, why should the players who

532
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 3: just play the game have to sprint off a court

533
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 3: to be to me? To be safe? To me? The

534
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 3: onus is on the arena to make sure the players

535
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 3: are safe, not the players who just played a forty

536
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 3: minute basketball game.

537
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 2: Right, we're talking security to you, Like, there's like myriad

538
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 2: things that start spinning out of this, right security. We've

539
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 2: seen some team slash conferences that they've tried to put

540
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 2: some rooms in place of five the fans don't do

541
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: any Like the fans are gonna listen to that. You

542
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: know what, We're gonna get fined a lot if you

543
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 2: guys go on the court. I don't care. Right, that

544
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: is not affecting my my way of celebrating this victory.

545
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 2: That's the last thing from my Hey, hey, everybody, stay

546
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 2: in the in the seats because the demon deacons are

547
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 2: gonna get fined one hundred grand if we go on right, yeah, no, no,

548
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 2: come on no.

549
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 3: So that's why I think it's some of these precautions

550
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,479
Speaker 3: are really hard to actually pull off. But I do

551
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 3: think that something that I think just in generally speaking, again,

552
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not like anti like I'm I wasn't.

553
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 3: I went to college basketball games as an organ like

554
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 3: I like, I enjoyed them. I enjoyed when the fans

555
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 3: were excited and active and wanted to, you know, storm

556
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 3: the court after a big win. So I'm not like

557
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 3: against the idea, but there has to be sort of

558
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 3: a two way street here where. And again I'm asking

559
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 3: drunk college kids to like social respect, but you know,

560
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 3: like you can storm the court without making contact with

561
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 3: the players. Put it like that.

562
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: Kind of hard to miss the seven foot guy, Yeah right,

563
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 2: I mean, of all the guys to get run into it,

564
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: does it seem like the seven foot or should have

565
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 2: anybody in that wingspan?

566
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Speaker 3: I I I often think that slow moo replays have

567
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 3: sort of hurt our perception of like the sports that

568
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 3: we watch, especially with the officiating, because I think that

569
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Speaker 3: we look at it and think like, oh, oh, well

570
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 3: that's easy call and make. I'm like, yeah, you know,

571
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 3: one hundred times a slow motion it's much tougher in

572
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 3: real time. And this is an example where slow motion

573
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 3: does not do does not do this justice because again,

574
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Speaker 3: like that he was not tripping in slow motion, it

575
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 3: looks like you're tripping a guy, but watching a real

576
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 3: time he's not not tripping anybody. He's walking.

577
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 2: He's just trying to walk towards the end.

578
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 3: And I think people there's a thirst on social media

579
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Speaker 3: for like for got you, you know, like gotcha moments there,

580
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 3: and this is one of those where I think again,

581
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 3: like they're just like I got him. Duke player journey

582
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 3: player tripping someone, it's like he's not well.

583
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Speaker 2: The history of Duke will make folks want to go

584
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Speaker 2: down to that conclusion for sure. Yes, there's no question

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Speaker 2: see Covin out Dax. We'll talk about the Hammer to

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Speaker 2: fall finally, or maybe it's just a domino, however you

593
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Speaker 2: want to play it. I just wanted to get a

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Speaker 2: Queen song in while I could. But let's go to

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Speaker 2: Isaac Lohenkron with an update, because I'm sure he's got

596
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 2: an update on that story. It's so much else in

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Speaker 2: our sporting universe.

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Speaker 9: Indeed, good morning, Mike and Jeff, and let's start in

599
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Speaker 9: Major League Baseball, where multiple outlets supported overnight that the

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Speaker 9: Chicago Cubs re signing Cody Ballinger to a three year,

601
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Speaker 9: eighty million dollar contract. In the NBA, on Saturday night,

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Speaker 9: the Boston Celtics defeated the New York Knicks at Madison

603
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Speaker 9: Square Garden one sixteen to one oh two. The Celtics

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Speaker 9: now and an eight game winning streak. They won ten

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Speaker 9: of eleven on the best record in the league at

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Speaker 9: forty five and twelve. The Orlando Magic one in Detroit,

607
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Speaker 9: one twelve to one oh nine, Halo ben Caero the

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Speaker 9: game winning three point play with point eight remaining in

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Speaker 9: the fourth quarter, and the Minnesota Timberwolves if either the

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Speaker 9: Brooklyn Nets one on one to eighty six to take

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Speaker 9: over sole possession in the first place in the Western

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Speaker 9: Conference at forty and seventeen. And finally, former Major League

613
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 9: Baseball star and present member of the Timberwolves ownership group,

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Speaker 9: Alex Rodriguez caused a stir on social media when he

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Speaker 9: appeared courtside at Friday's tea Wolves game sporting a very

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Speaker 9: very very prominent sun tan Well. Yesterday, a Rod posted

617
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Speaker 9: the following message on social media explaining his new look.

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Speaker 10: All Right, everybody, I know that I'm dark.

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Speaker 1: Oh but I am Dominican and I went on vacation

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Speaker 1: and I fell asleep.

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Speaker 3: In the sent So everybody come down. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Lito saw the CECO me hinting, Yeah, what do you

623
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Speaker 2: say about my mom?

624
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Speaker 9: Anyway, that's the explanation from Alex Rodriguez himself about his

625
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Speaker 9: new look.

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Speaker 2: Back to you guys at Isaac lowenkron As the sun

627
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Speaker 2: is back out and so th in California. No doubt

628
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Speaker 2: you'll be using whatever tanning products Alex Rodriguez was using it.

629
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Speaker 9: The tans I burned so unfair.

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00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Jeff, did you see this new look from

631
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Speaker 2: Alex Rodriguez.

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Speaker 3: I didn't you know? On the scale of things I

633
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 3: was really going to care about today, it was very low.

634
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: So I'm glad people have this coverage besides me.

635
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Speaker 1: You know.

636
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Speaker 3: It was just I was this concerned about Arod.

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00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: I do the uh not quite a rundown, you know,

638
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: the let's pull back the curtain, and I just kind

639
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: of jotted down a ton of random ideas where we go.

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00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,719
Speaker 2: It's it's a magical mystery tour here, right, choose your

641
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: own adventure. Oh kind of book, Alex Rodriguez. I don't

642
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Speaker 2: think I had on the list. I do find it interesting, though,

643
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Speaker 2: I like Ilo I burn, But that was one of

644
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Speaker 2: those I don't know, you put like an extra five

645
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Speaker 2: or six coats of something on yourself, like you were,

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Speaker 2: you know, finishing off a table that you bought in

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Speaker 2: a flea market.

648
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Speaker 3: Yeah it was. It wasn't a great look, but again

649
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 3: people are I'm glad people are so concerned about, you know,

650
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 3: whether he's he's too tan or not.

651
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: Man, if people have other things to worry about, Jeff,

652
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 2: You're trying to raise kids run around.

653
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and some of us are five hours of swim

654
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 3: meet yesterday, you know, and people are out here worried

655
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Speaker 3: about what a Rod you know how Tan Arod.

656
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 2: Is uh oh swim meat stories that and Scott Burrows

657
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: Boris eventually said at my signal underleash, hell, is our

658
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: free agent nightmare finally over? And will he get the

659
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: money that he thought he was clearly by a three year,

660
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 2: eighty million dollar deal at least for the moment, I'd

661
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: say no, But we'll talk about that the other free agents.

662
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: And Jeff's five years and five hours probably seemed like

663
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: five years at a swim meet. We'll do all that

664
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Speaker 2: next year.

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Speaker 1: On f you're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio, Hey,

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Speaker 1: welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Live from the tire

667
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Speaker 1: Ac dot Com Fox Sports Radio Studios, Fox Sports Sunday

668
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: Mike Carmen alongside, Hey, your NFL veteran Jeff Schwartz.

669
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: We're gonna lean on his expertise, what he's watching as

670
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 2: we get towards the combine, and how we can be

671
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 2: smarter as we watch through because that's what it's all about.

672
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 4: For me.

673
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 2: Jeff, I lean and I tried to uh, and I'll

674
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 2: send your food and beverages as thank you for making well.

675
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a Chicago kid, so you named it.

676
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: You want some Portillos. You need some pizzas, we'll we'll

677
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 2: ship it out, though, how dare.

678
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 3: You a question? I mean, I see, I see Chicago pizza.

679
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 3: It looks like Lasagnia to me.

680
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard that that can compliment.

681
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 3: I only have ever had to be fair to Chago.

682
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 3: I've ever had is Scago pizza before. Okay, I've had

683
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 3: New York, I've had Detroit, I've had you know, I've

684
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 3: had all of them, but Chicago.

685
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're talking about a lot of cheese depending

686
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: on the place the dough. There's a couple of places

687
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 2: that we like locally that are now getting some uh

688
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 2: some national reputation for their caramelized crust and stuff.

689
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: So let me caramelize though in for that.

690
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: All right, We'll we'll drop you some of that. Okay, yeah,

691
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: they you know, not a sponsor, but Pee Quad's is

692
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: a place that was the neighborhood place forever. They were

693
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: just named the number one pizza. So there you go.

694
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 3: I need some pizza in my life.

695
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we'll make We'll make that as long as

696
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 2: I can claim I'm a little bit smarter. I'm never

697
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: gonna have a podcast that says I'm smarter than anybody else.

698
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz is smarter than you. But were you smarter

699
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: than the system and the gamesmanship that go into a

700
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: child swim meet as you referenced a couple of minutes ago.

701
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 2: Five hours there?

702
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 3: Well, so and I got roped into timing too, which.

703
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 2: Oh, well, how'd you get that?

704
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: Well? So, the it was the swimming was split by

705
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 3: a's groups. So my daughter went first, and then my

706
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 3: wife was there with me, and it just was a

707
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 3: long day. So she went home with my daughter to

708
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 3: go like do stuff, run some errands, and so I

709
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 3: was there sort of by myself and the director. It

710
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 3: was an all star swim meets. There were like seven

711
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,919
Speaker 3: seven swim clubs there. And the director of our swim

712
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 3: club asked me if I could do it. He just

713
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 3: kind of kind of saw me like sitting alone, and

714
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 3: I was like sure, So I did it. I mean,

715
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 3: I've done it before. It's it's fine. I just look,

716
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: it's a lot of standing on a very hard swim deck,

717
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 3: and for your boy, it's just you know, it's not

718
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 3: great for the legs and back. But like that, but

719
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 3: and then also too, like it's hard to watch your kid,

720
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 3: you know, like, sure, while you're you know, I'm there

721
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Speaker 3: to watch him. I congratulate she's other kids that were there,

722
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 3: but I watch my son, my son, my son swim.

723
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Speaker 3: So it's also just one of those things where you

724
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 3: know you're there all day and you know, you see

725
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: my son swim a total of forty seven seconds. I mean,

726
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 3: you know, like by the time, like, yeah, I mean

727
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 3: he did three events. The little one did a little

728
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 3: bit more because she has an im so she's that

729
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 3: took her like two and a half minutes or two

730
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Speaker 3: two o seven it took.

731
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Speaker 2: Her, So, like you know, it's a lot of activity

732
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: for a lot of waiting around.

733
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot a lot of waiting. So yeah, look,

734
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 3: I mean it's uh, I like watching my kids play sports.

735
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 3: That's my favorite thing to do as a dad. But

736
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 3: swim meets is a little a little tough, A little tough.

737
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm in the club soccer thing, fifteen

738
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 2: year old. Yeah, starting to get towards the coaches, hanging

739
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 2: around college folks and whatever. So it's a fun time,

740
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 2: kind of a nerve wracking time because you know, one

741
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: call in soccer changes everything for you. I got to

742
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: imagine the timer finger I mean, how's your stop watching?

743
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 3: Oh we we were good except the only maybe only

744
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 3: swim parents understand this. The only thing that was hard

745
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 3: is on the backstroke for a bunch of the kids

746
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 3: that aren't terribly good. They are not, they are not.

747
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 3: They don't really hit the wall very well. You should

748
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 3: have to guess, like when they touch the wall sometimes

749
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 3: it looks like their hand like they don't. The older

750
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 3: kids you know exactly how many how many strokes takes

751
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 3: to get to the wall and they finished with their

752
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 3: hand out. The younger kids like will take a stroke

753
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 3: and maybe hit the wall and then stroke again and

754
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 3: then hit their head on the wall. So you don't

755
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 3: know when to went to stop it. Uh So, I

756
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 3: don't know. It is what it is.

757
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 2: I enjoy it though, No, it's well, but it's the

758
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: fun age, right. You've got little ones, so they're they're

759
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 2: still just getting into it really for the kind of

760
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 2: the first time. And there's that pride, you know, that individualism, right,

761
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 2: your team sport guy grew up team sport guy. The

762
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 2: whole individual sport thing was not uh not in the purview.

763
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: We just went cycle, baseball, football, basketball. Paused for a

764
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: minute and waited for the ground to thaw in Chicago,

765
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:45,959
Speaker 2: and then we did it again.

766
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I my kids already in I mean

767
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 3: their softball and baseball started already, Like we're we my kids.

768
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 3: My daughter does gymnastics once a week, swim twice a week,

769
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 3: and now baseball or soft ball twice a week. My

770
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 3: son has baseball now will be like three times a week,

771
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 3: Hebrew school and swim.

772
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 2: So that's a lot of a lot of back in from.

773
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 3: My daughter will have it starts a weekly Hebrew school

774
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 3: next year. So I basically I'm I like, I like it,

775
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 3: but I am a chauffeur between I'm sure every parent

776
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 3: you know the same way, Like between four o'clock and

777
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 3: seven eight, seven thirty most days.

778
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: What's the go to? Are you grabbing another cup of

779
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 2: coffee or does it?

780
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 3: Because no, I'm fine just listening to podcasts and listen

781
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 3: to I don't know the kids music.

782
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 5: I don't.

783
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 3: I just I'm just like, I got like very it's

784
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 3: very workman like I'm offensive linement man. I have a

785
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 3: job to do, I have an assignment to do. Yeah,

786
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 3: my wife's she's finishing work, like sometimes she can help.

787
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 3: At the end, I'm grinding man making it work there.

788
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 2: It is for all the dads and moms out there

789
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 2: making it happen, getting the kids into sports, getting into

790
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: their activities. It is part of the job. We sign

791
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 2: up for it happily until you know, the swim meets

792
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 2: or other things become ninety mile journeys round trip.

793
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, and like my kids, they like it,

794
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 3: so it makes it much like sure easier to do.

795
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 2: You know, Oh no, I'm completely there. It's like, as

796
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 2: soon as you're done, you're done, just make sure you

797
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 2: let me know, yes, because I en force you to

798
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 2: do this correct, right. I watch you to be active.

799
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: I want you to be in this stuff. But as

800
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 2: soon as you're done with it, please do do just

801
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 2: let me know so we don't continue this madness. All right,

802
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 2: we'll get back into baseball. Free agency. The Bellinger signing

803
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 2: as well as the Combine is this week, and as

804
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 2: we see snippets and reviews, we've got guys for an

805
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 2: ex subject matter experts for seemingly every position. I need

806
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: more offensive line work because that's where it all starts

807
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 2: and ends for me for a long time. And I'm

808
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 2: not just kissing up to Jeff everybody that knows me,

809
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 2: knows how much I love my line play. We'll talk

810
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: about that for the combine next here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: you stop in, always say an extra one for us,

819
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: and of course walking the dog, morning cup of coffee,

820
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: reading the paper, whatever it is. Thanks for making us

821
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Speaker 2: part of your day. Take us with you wherever you go.

822
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Speaker 2: go up when the show is done, and we can

824
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 2: all be just a little bit smarter because we're gonna

825
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 2: get some wisdom here. My guy, Jeff Schwartz, eight years

826
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: in the league, Serious x M. You've got Fox Sports

827
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: the Jeff Schwartz is Smarter than you podcast? What else

828
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 2: did I miss? Jeff? What else?

829
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 3: What else do you? I have? The bear Bets Podcast

830
00:41:59,600 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 3: with Chris.

831
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 2: There you go, the Bare Bets Podcast. I got it

832
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: well because I only have so much of the uh

833
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 2: you know CV in front of me. The bear Bets.

834
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fantastic, a lot of fun. We're back next week.

835
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 3: Get ready for for March Madness and the start of baseball.

836
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 3: That's the baseball features. With baseball features, Well.

837
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 2: My White Sox are at like sixty two and a

838
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: half games. They're forty to one to win the Central.

839
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 3: So that's a no in playoffs for them.

840
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say, unless you know, it's the old

841
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 2: bat a little make a lot either that or just

842
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 2: burn your money. Decide if you like the pretty colors.

843
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 3: Is Tony Larus is still angrily managing that the organization.

844
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 3: At least that was at least that was a little

845
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: at least that was a little entertaining, you know when

846
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 3: he was every couple of weeks we get a good

847
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 3: quote from him.

848
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 2: But he'd try to stride out to make a pitching change.

849
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah, the adro, the uh, the the Triple A

850
00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 3: teams in Charlotte's for the White.

851
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 2: Sox, Yes, sir, a bun and now that they're shorter games,

852
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: it's even easier, dude.

853
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 3: The last year we went for the first time when

854
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 3: they changed the rules. Man, it was my kids, like

855
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 3: it just was. We made it seven and a half

856
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 3: inning instead of four and half innings.

857
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: Good, that's a good run. Yeah, stay through the take

858
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 2: me out to the ball game, and then all right,

859
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 2: we're out of here. No, that's what. It's not a

860
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 2: bad way to be. No, it's that's pretty good run.

861
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 11: I's spring training, uh, you know, games underway, and and

862
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 11: obviously us being here in the Fox Sports radio studios

863
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 11: in Los Angeles, all sorts of Dodger memorabilia come around.

864
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 3: I know.

865
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: And you're a Giants guy.

866
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 3: That's that's gross.

867
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: No one likes the Dodgers, and I wear my White

868
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 2: Sox stuff, and I take the derision because, you know,

869
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: it's an opportunity for folks to get their anger and

870
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 2: vitriol and mocking out. So if they can take it

871
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 2: out on me, maybe they're a little better to the

872
00:43:58,600 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 2: people in their lives when they go.

873
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 3: The White Sox have won a World Series in a

874
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: full baseball season, is true more times than Dodgers House

875
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 3: is nineteen eighty eight.

876
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: So wow, look at you. There you go It's just

877
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 2: true though.

878
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 3: I mean, the Dodgers won a third of a championship.

879
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 3: They put in a third of a season and won

880
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 3: a championship. There's nothing wrong with being honest about what

881
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 3: that championship was. If you play, if you only if

882
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 3: you play sixty games of one hundred and and sixty

883
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 3: you know, one hundred and sixty two game season, and

884
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 3: you play only sixty of them. That to me, I'm

885
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 3: not great at math. That's about a third. And if

886
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 3: you win a championship, you won a third of a championship.

887
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 3: I think that's fair math.

888
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 2: I dig that you kind of going, wwe heel turn.

889
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 3: It's good, my heel turned. I think I'm I'm a

890
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 3: person of of common sense. It feels like if you

891
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 3: play a third of a season, you win a third

892
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 3: of a championship. No, am I wrong on that?

893
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 2: Well, I go to whatever the engagements are. I mean,

894
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 2: they decided that was what was going to constitute a

895
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 2: regular season. I'm also the guy that you know will

896
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: argue with p pople Tom Blue in the face about

897
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 2: Barry Bonds and other people. Look, the Hall of Fame

898
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 2: is what it is.

899
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 3: But like you mean, the guy that even the guy

900
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 3: that had four hundred home runs and four in a

901
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 3: stolen bases before he started.

902
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 2: Taking But he's a guy that that everybody eld.

903
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 3: Gloves before it took started taking steroids. And the guy

904
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 3: that that that walked more than he missed swings over

905
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 3: like his Giants' career. Yeah, that guy, I got one

906
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 3: the one pitcher game to hit it hit into the bay.

907
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, my my whole thing. I was up in the

908
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 2: Bay Area for a good chunk of that time and

909
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 2: it was a lot of fun to go to that ballpark.

910
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 2: But they never took down his records. Right, Like, all

911
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 2: of that is still there. He is still your all

912
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: time home run king, whether you like it or not.

913
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 2: So the all of that.

914
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 3: The Baseball Hall of Fame is a museum, right, It's

915
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 3: a museum of baseball. And you can't have the commissioner

916
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 3: who oversaw the steroid era in the Hall of Fame.

917
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 3: You can't have other players that most assurely run stairs

918
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 3: to the Hall of Fame. You can't ignore a generation

919
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 3: that the baseball had a steroid policy during the time

920
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 3: Bonds was playing. They never enforced that policy. They did

921
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 3: not test the players. Most famously, Mark McGuire had an

922
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 3: illegal substance in his locker and no one cared. We

923
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 3: saw it there. People asked him like, hey, what about

924
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 3: this substance that you have the andro right that you

925
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 3: have in your locker that's not allowed. No one cared.

926
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 3: Congress got involved, and then Baseball decided they didn't want

927
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 3: to be in you know, they didn't want to be

928
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 3: in trouble, quote quote in trouble, and they moved off

929
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 3: the steroid era. And to decide that Barry Bonds and

930
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 3: Roger Clemens are now no longer Hall of famers, to

931
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 3: me is really as silly because I think I think

932
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 3: there's a standard you can apply for some of these

933
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 3: players that you suspected of using drug, using peds, and

934
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 3: the standard is how freaking good were they? You're like,

935
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 3: there are players that I think we agree that if

936
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 3: not for steroids, they're not in the Hall of Fame.

937
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 3: The thing with Barry Bonzo is we have a Hall

938
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 3: of Fame career before we start using steroids. If you

939
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 3: take his career from eighty six to ninety eight, it's

940
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 3: four hundred I'm believe or not un passionate about this

941
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 3: final it's four hundred eleven home runs and four hundred

942
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 3: and thirty ish stolen bases and eight golden gloves. That's

943
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 3: a Hall of Fame career. He should be in the

944
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. It's silly that he's not. And maybe

945
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 3: the Veterans Committee will put him in one day, I hope.

946
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 3: So seems maybe unlikely that it will ever happen. And

947
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 3: also the last point about this, I know this is

948
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 3: what was on your rundown you sent me, though no I.

949
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 2: Could do this all day long because injured spirits and them.

950
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 3: When you talk to players of that generation, which I

951
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 3: think it's important to talk to players of general, of

952
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 3: the CERN generation, they will all tell you that Barry

953
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 3: Bonds was the best player in baseball. So you know,

954
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 3: if again, these are guys that obviously played with him

955
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 3: that you know, maybe they used steroids, maybe they did,

956
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 3: but they certainly knew he was using steroids and obviously

957
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 3: didn't not bother them. But you know, the you know,

958
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 3: the the MLBA PA could have done something about this, right,

959
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 3: they could have made a big sting. They never did.

960
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 2: Everybody got fat and rich off it, including all those

961
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 2: little uh got up on the soapboxes. High Bob and

962
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 2: everybody else.

963
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 3: And and all the sports writers that loved writing about

964
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 3: the home run chases, and and so, but every one

965
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 3: of that generation will tell you that the best player

966
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 3: in baseball was Barry Bonds. About it and the fact

967
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 3: that he's not in the Hall of Fame, Well, look again,

968
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna call people out there in the Hall

969
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 3: of Fame, but come on, we know guys in that

970
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 3: era that were juicing, like come on, and they get

971
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 3: a pass because they're not Berry Bonds.

972
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,919
Speaker 2: Well, there's a bunch of guys that people just won't

973
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 2: believe could possibly have had. But if you have no idea,

974
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 2: you have no idea. Yeah, how widespread this was? Right,

975
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 2: So some of the guys that might just be the

976
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 2: choir boys in the faces that everybody loved are gonna

977
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 2: waltz right in. We have Mitchell all the way through.

978
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 3: Think about this, though. There have been players busted for peds, Okay,

979
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 3: d Gordon all right, all one hundred pounds of d

980
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 3: Bartola cologne. Big you know, big, big sexy physique that

981
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 3: he has Andy Pettitt, right, and he admitted he used

982
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 3: it obviously for recovery, which again most most do so

983
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 3: to say that only players that get jacked and get

984
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 3: stacked and get big like Bonds are using steroids. Is

985
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 3: not how and why players were using performance dancing drugs.

986
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 3: It doesn't help you hit the ball further. It doesn't

987
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 3: help you when you can make the argument is that

988
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 3: it helps you stay fresh throughout a season and therefore

989
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 3: you might hit the ball a little further because you're

990
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 3: a little bit fresh, But it doesn't actually help you

991
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 3: hit the ball further. Doesn't help you now to get

992
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 3: the strike zone like Barry Bonds was able to do,

993
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 3: you know, throughout his career. It doesn't help you be

994
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 3: a fielder that he was early in his career. So

995
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 3: I just think that all these arguments are are just

996
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 3: in bad faith and he should be in the Hall

997
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 3: of Fame. He won't be. But again, you have Bud

998
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 3: Ceiling in the Hall of Fame and not Barry Bonds

999
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,439
Speaker 3: and Roger Klemis to me feels pretty wrong.

1000
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 2: Everybody turned the blind eye for so many years until

1001
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 2: it wasn't cool to anymore. Right, So, yeah, all all

1002
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 2: of those guys that you know that were making millions

1003
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 2: broadcasting the games, writing about the games, and we saw

1004
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 2: bodies change. You remember Sammy Sosa famously left one offseason

1005
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 2: and came back looking like he was out of captain

1006
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 2: a Captain America. First Avenger like Tommy Lee Jones and

1007
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 2: Stanley Tucci got hold of him, put him in a

1008
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 2: chamber for a couple of minutes. Haha, there we go,

1009
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 2: no scrawny little guy anymore. I thought it was funny.

1010
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 2: Did you see the little clip of Garnett's podcast where

1011
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 2: he's talking about Bronni James and Lebron James. He threw

1012
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 2: a random Balco thing in there that Lebron's on that

1013
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 2: new Balco stuff, Like, wow, there you go, way to

1014
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 2: fire that one up there.

1015
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 3: I think people have sort of whispered that that, like, Okay,

1016
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 3: a guy who's playing as long as he has, as

1017
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 3: good as he has, maybe there's something more to this,

1018
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 3: And I think that it's not It's not unfair to

1019
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 3: to maybe talk about like we are. I think it's

1020
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 3: a little bit unfair to claim that Lebron is using

1021
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 3: right because I think in sports there comes a player

1022
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 3: a generation that's just obviously different, you know, and with

1023
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 3: the way players eat now, there are workout regiments like it.

1024
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,280
Speaker 3: It would make sense for Lebron to be that player

1025
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 3: of the generation that just as different.

1026
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 2: You know, you spend the money on correct trainers and

1027
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 2: exercise and grabbing whatever you can best to breed from

1028
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 2: science around the world. Yeah, absolutely right.

1029
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 3: But I certainly think there are people that sort of

1030
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 3: believe that there's no way that he could play this

1031
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 3: long without using something. But I think I just there's

1032
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 3: no evidence whatsoever that that's the case.

1033
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 2: And go and owing to the prior bid, you know,

1034
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 2: bonds whatever else, you know, when it comes to recovery

1035
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 2: and all. Jeff, and then obviously the NFL is one

1036
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 2: we've always looked at the other way. Go, well, they

1037
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 2: have to do this stuff because they got to be

1038
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 2: on field. Like, if it's helping guys recover, don't I

1039
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 2: want my best guys on the field. And if we

1040
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 2: have the science to do it, I mean, I guess

1041
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 2: that's where we get into the argument of what is

1042
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 2: performance enhancing? How far does that term reach?

1043
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Also, people have this weird sort of sense of

1044
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 3: like more there's some morals involved here with your athlete,

1045
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:05,439
Speaker 3: you know, But I just I guess sort of there's

1046
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 3: athletes should be role models. But you know, Charles Barkley's

1047
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 3: made this point for a while now that like, he

1048
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 3: didn't sign up to be a role model. And I

1049
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 3: think that some players just don't view themselves as role models.

1050
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 3: They do thoselves just as athletes. Obviously you'll be a

1051
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 3: good person. Is it's just a general idea to be good.

1052
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 3: I don't know if you have to be good because

1053
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 3: you're an athlete. But I think that some players just

1054
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 3: don't sign up to be to be role models. And

1055
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 3: I understand that they're you know, in the public sphere

1056
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 3: that a lot of us are in. You know, you

1057
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 3: end up being a role model, or you end up

1058
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 3: you know, that becomes what you understand people look at

1059
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 3: you as. But some players don't feel like they're a

1060
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 3: role like a role model, and so they don't feel

1061
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 3: like they have to be their best behavior and not

1062
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 3: take steroids because the kids, think of the kids, and

1063
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 3: some players just don't feel that way.

1064
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 2: It's I mean, look, the bag is huge. The time

1065
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 2: that you have to capitalize on your talents is short. Right,

1066
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 2: you had eight years. That's pretty good run, right. I

1067
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 2: mean when we look at the you know, life and

1068
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 2: times of your average NFL career or in any of

1069
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 2: these other sports, right, trying to get up the ladder

1070
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 2: and even into the game. Look, this is great with

1071
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 2: spring training. I've got some video on in front of me.

1072
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 2: I got the Cardinals and the Mets and that we're

1073
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 2: then breaking in with more news and updates and all.

1074
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 2: So it's good to have it back in the mix.

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00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 2: And it's a natural extension, right, It's one that's always

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00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 2: around the game that we talk about. My last Hall

1077
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 2: of Fame story. I lived up in upstate New York

1078
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,760
Speaker 2: for a couple of years, Jeff, so i'd go there regularly.

1079
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 2: We had a brewery that's now become kind of a

1080
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 2: big deal. At one point they jumped on board a

1081
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 2: licensing deal with Game of Thrones early, so they got

1082
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 2: some confational notoriety out of that of Belgian style ale.

1083
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 2: So we'd drive and they're based in Cooperstown. They got

1084
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 2: a huge like farm where you can go have a

1085
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 2: picnic and whatever. But we used to go for party.

1086
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 2: We go pick it up, and it was a good

1087
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 2: excuse to go spend a couple hours at the Hall

1088
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 2: of Fame, and so we'd visit a bunch I kid

1089
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 2: you not. You know the guy that's banned for life,

1090
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 2: that Pete Rose guy. There's no shortage of memorabilia of

1091
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,720
Speaker 2: Pete Rose lining that museum. He'll never have a plaque,

1092
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 2: but damn it, we've got a ball, We've got photos,

1093
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 2: We've got yeah, uniforms and everything else.

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00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 3: Ye, Pete Rose is a different discussion than bonds, and

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00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 3: you know it's with bonds. To me, there's no integrity

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00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 3: of the game issue like he like, because I think

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00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 3: everyone was was you know, like using essentially it was

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00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 3: just him and I can't buy them all. That's the

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Speaker 3: integrity of the game sort of situation. You know. The

1100
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 3: thing about the Pete Rose is I understand he was

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00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 3: betting on himself to win, right, And we don't know

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00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 3: if he obviously widger he himself as a player. We

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00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 3: know as a coach he did on his team. But

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00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 3: the question is, I think it's fair to question, like,

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00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 3: why do you not bet on his team every night?

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00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: No?

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00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 2: That's right, No, that's that's like, yeah, why what what

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00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 2: what made it?

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00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,439
Speaker 3: What was the deformation to not bet on his team?

1110
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 2: And a given night, well that's one hundred percent right.

1111
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 2: If you didn't bet on your team that night, you

1112
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 2: you more or less bet against them.

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00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 3: So I I under look, I think I would make

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00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 3: the argument again it's it's a museum of baseball. Maybe

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00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 3: you put him in and you put a plaque up

1116
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 3: and you sort of say what he did. I But

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00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,919
Speaker 3: again I think there it's a it's a different question

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Speaker 3: to me with him than Barry Bonds.

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00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 2: Oh undred percent agree, just making the point of another

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00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 2: guy who's never getting in the front door is prominent

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Speaker 2: in a lot of displays there.

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Speaker 3: Do you think he never gets in? You think at

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Speaker 3: some point, I mean, so it'll put you get at

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Speaker 3: some point.

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Speaker 2: No, I wonder if you're at welld posthumously, perhaps he does. Yeah,

1126
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 2: And perhaps the changing way we look at wagering will

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00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,720
Speaker 2: allow him to come in the side door eventually.

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Speaker 3: That's certainly a fair yeah, right, because.

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Speaker 2: Just the attitude in general, you know, all the particulars

1130
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 2: that we go through with the you know, state by

1131
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 2: state and everything else getting on board, and certainly some

1132
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 2: pitfalls along the way that still haven't been quite sussed out.

1133
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, in that regard, perhaps eventually a younger generation

1134
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 2: that doesn't feel like they were quote quote hoodwinked you

1135
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 2: like that, because I don't buy any of it. With

1136
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 2: all of these things, you all know what's going on

1137
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 2: you knew the rules of engagement. The guy bet on everything.

1138
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 2: That was a running joke forever, So why did you

1139
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 2: not think it extended back there? But yeah, but I digress.

1140
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Speaker 2: As we continue here, Jeff, I'm gonna tap into your wisdom,

1141
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 2: into your wheelhouse of we're looking at film. I've seen

1142
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 2: a couple of things you've done, and obviously you've had

1143
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 2: your offensive line boot camp a couple of years. So

1144
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 2: what you're looking for when you look at tape. We

1145
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 2: all want to be smarter, and Jeff Schwartz is smarter

1146
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 2: than you. That's the podcast. He's going to make us

1147
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 2: all a bit smarter. As we continue here next on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports, Training Head Banging starts your Sunday morning wherever

1149
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 2: you are. Thanks for being part of the extended family.

1150
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 2: Chris Ian and Isaac with us making us sound so good.

1151
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 2: I'm Mike Carbon alongside Jeff Schwartz eight years in the league,

1152
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 2: the Bare Bets Podcast Jeff Schwartz Is Smarter than You

1153
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 2: podcasts at Jeff Schwartze. We can find everything he's got popping,

1154
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 2: as well as his musings on the sporting world. As

1155
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 2: were we started the hour celebrating Major League Baseball and

1156
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 2: celebrating players that we love. And I still want to

1157
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 2: add to my memorabilia collection, Jeff, one of those Barry

1158
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 2: Bonds armor pieces from back in the day. Yes, some

1159
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 2: of the great you know, because maybe that'll help you

1160
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 2: in court storming situations. See how we pull it all together.

1161
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, and now I want to go watch Barry

1162
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 2: Bonds highlights all day amidst the spring training activity of

1163
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Speaker 2: today's day. Hey, shortly after the show, the podcast goes up,

1164
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1165
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,080
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Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcast look for Fox Sports Sunday,

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1168
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Speaker 2: That's the key part. Even if you're just telling me

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Speaker 2: how handsome I am. Again, just sure search Fox Sports

1170
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,919
Speaker 2: Radio wherever you get your podcasts. You'll see this show

1171
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 2: posted right after we get off air. I posted something

1172
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 2: yesterday and I don't think some got the jokes. It's

1173
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 2: the you know, the old phrasing Jeff of you know

1174
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 2: they say never meet your heroes, Yes, And I said, well,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I'm quite approachable.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, feel free to use that one man. Okay, there

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Speaker 2: you have it, all right, So as we look forward

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01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 2: to this week combine work, and we start doing all

1180
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 2: the deep dives and in some cases just a quick

1181
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 2: rough cut of all right, here's a couple of plays

1182
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 2: of this guy, that guy, the other guy. And certainly

1183
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 2: quarterback play gets the most of the attention, and for

1184
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 2: this year, rightly so, because we'll look at the top

1185
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 2: of the draft the number of quarterbacks that'll fly off

1186
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 2: the board, and long argued and perhaps it's my I

1187
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 2: don't know, fire plug. Look to me where Ray Lewis

1188
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 2: once looked at me and told me how the Good

1189
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 2: Lord had screwed me over because you stopped my growth

1190
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 2: because of my with I don't know. He did that

1191
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 2: to Curry favor with a bunch of friends. And it's

1192
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 2: the running joke that we've held for about fifteen years now.

1193
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 2: But I've always been a fan of watching line work,

1194
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 2: and certainly this is where the brains of the operation,

1195
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 2: the motor, the engine of it all goes. And I'm

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Speaker 2: not just trying to suck up to you. As you

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01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 2: start going through combined work, I mean, how do you start, Like,

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Speaker 2: how do you start in a review? Of a player

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Speaker 2: and knowing, you know, plays that mattered towards the next

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01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 2: level versus specific to a college scheme.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's a really hard part about the film right

1202
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 3: now in the college. And I saw Kurt Warner talking

1203
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Speaker 3: about this on Twitter. He got like murder. He got

1204
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Speaker 3: killed on Twitter for this.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why.

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Speaker 3: It's not a hot take. Like watching college film is

1207
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 3: hard sometimes because you can't project what players might do

1208
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 3: in the next level because they're not doing those things.

1209
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 3: You know, they're not doing those things in college for example. Obviously,

1210
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 3: off it'sive line, you know, is what I focus on.

1211
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Speaker 3: But I watched the position as well. I'll be watching

1212
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Speaker 3: the left tackle at Washington. He's really good, Troy Fatanu,

1213
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Speaker 3: and he is gonna be a first round draft pick

1214
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Speaker 3: tackle guard.

1215
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'll text a buddy this morning. I had this group

1217
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 3: thread offensive line. We talk off it's a lot all

1218
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 3: the time, and I was like, I'm trying to find

1219
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 3: a stretch block, a reach block, a base block of

1220
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Speaker 3: this one player. I need one or two from the season,

1221
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 3: Like there's just not one. There's not one. No, no,

1222
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Speaker 3: of course, I'm gonna take that back. There are some

1223
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Speaker 3: in like one game Washington did this where they ran

1224
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Speaker 3: outside zone and I'm like, I got to see it

1225
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Speaker 3: outside zone block because guess what he goes to the NFL,

1226
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Speaker 3: It's gonna have to block outside zone, it's gonna have

1227
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Speaker 3: to block inside zone.

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Speaker 5: And it it uh it.

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Speaker 3: So it's just it's hard sometimes to see that on

1230
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Speaker 3: a film. It's hard to watch film of like JJ McCarthy,

1231
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Speaker 3: who is gonna be a first round pick but maybe

1232
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Speaker 3: in the top ten, and you're like, you know, there's

1233
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Speaker 3: just not a lot of like you know, pro like

1234
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 3: we're not seeing like a continuous idea of like pro

1235
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Speaker 3: scheme stuff he's doing all the time, right you look

1236
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 3: at it. Jaden Daniels, So saying that Caleb Williams Man

1237
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 3: Koboim film is a wreck, it's not because kid Williams

1238
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 3: is a wreck. It's because the USC offense last season

1239
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 3: was not good. Okay, killb Williams was good. The offense

1240
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 3: the scheme was bad, the wide receim production wasn't good.

1241
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 3: There was no run game, the offense line was bad,

1242
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Speaker 3: and there just wasn't any sort of like you're watching

1243
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 3: them play. And so a lot of my point is

1244
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Speaker 3: that a lot of what we're seeing now for evaluation

1245
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 3: of players is traits, right, is traits. So do you

1246
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 3: see traits on film that will translate to the NFL?

1247
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 3: Do you? So there are some things like, for example,

1248
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Speaker 3: you know, if you're good at avoiding sacks in college,

1249
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 3: you're probably good at avoiding sacks in the NFL, which

1250
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 3: is a good important part to playing quarterback, right, avoiding sacks.

1251
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Speaker 3: So you look at traits, you look at some numbers

1252
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 3: that sort of transfer, and you're trying to you know,

1253
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 3: project guys out. And that's the hard part about film

1254
01:03:59,400 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 3: right now.

1255
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just the curiosity right as I'm watching stuff

1256
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 2: and I see the montage is right, pick any network

1257
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 2: here or you know, any anybody that's going into it

1258
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 2: in the social media sphere. And it's easy to cherry

1259
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 2: pick plays too, right, as opposed to you know, going

1260
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 2: through and evaluating a full game and flow and what

1261
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 2: a guy is. You know, we were always like blinded,

1262
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 2: I think, you know, as a as a collective to

1263
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 2: all right, how many times did he lift this amount

1264
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Speaker 2: of weight at the combine? Like that was going to

1265
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 2: be the be all end on to tell me how

1266
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 2: great a guy was or or just a measuring of wingspan,

1267
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 2: because you know, we talked about it last week a

1268
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 2: little bit. Coming off the Super Bowl, you know, everybody's

1269
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 2: still looking for holds and everything else. So trying to

1270
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 2: figure out what technique, what's you know, officiating crew and

1271
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 2: how they will or won't call a game, but you know,

1272
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 2: trying to figure out how those traits translate because again,

1273
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 2: you're running a much different offense in most respects at

1274
01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 2: the college game than you are going to the pros.

1275
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 3: Do you do you want to go to Isaac first

1276
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 3: before we do my whole combine, take it out, what

1277
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:05,479
Speaker 3: the comment?

1278
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 8: We do that?

1279
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 2: Then okay, let's do all right more combine talk and

1280
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 2: the evaluation and Jeff Schwartz's two cents on the week

1281
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 2: that will be and all the tape that we'll be reviewing.

1282
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 2: But first let's go over to Isaac Lohencron get an

1283
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 2: update of what's going on this morning.

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Speaker 9: Cody Bellinger combining a lot of money into his bank

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Speaker 9: account as we started. In Major League Baseball, multiple outlets

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Speaker 9: supporting overnight bellas the Chicago Cubs re signing Cody Bellinger

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Speaker 9: to a three year, eighty million dollar contract at the

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Speaker 9: NBA Saturday night, the Boston Celtics defeated the New York

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Speaker 9: Knicks at the Garden one, sixteen to one. Two The

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Speaker 9: seas on an eight game winning streak, they've won ten

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Speaker 9: of eleven on the best record of the NBA at

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Speaker 9: forty five and twelve. The Minnesota Timberwolves over the Brooklyn

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Speaker 9: Nets on a one to eighty six to take over

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Speaker 9: his sole possession of first place in the Western Conference

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Speaker 9: at forty and seventeen. In college basketball, Saturday, at the

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Speaker 9: end of Wake Forest eighty three seventy nine win over

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Speaker 9: eighth rank Duke Stars, center Kyle philip Powski injured his

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Speaker 9: knee when one of the fans storming the court collided

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Speaker 9: with him. Here was Philipowski afterwards with w f M

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Speaker 9: Y Television.

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Speaker 10: I felt a bunch of hits on my body. I

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Speaker 10: you know, I just this ONEm was the worst of them.

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Speaker 10: But it's just really ridiculous. I've already heard that there's

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Speaker 10: some videos of you know, game punched in the back,

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Speaker 10: and so I absolutely feel like it was personal, you know,

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Speaker 10: intentional for sure. You know, like I said, there's there's

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Speaker 10: no reason where they see a big guy like me

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Speaker 10: trying to work my way up before and they can't

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Speaker 10: just work around me.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's no excuse for that.

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Speaker 9: And Mike and Jeff, we have a new detail about

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Speaker 9: this incident to pass along. Fox Sports Radio has just

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Speaker 9: obtained exclusive audio of the Wake Forest students pre court

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Speaker 9: storming PEP Talk Listen.

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Speaker 1: Nothing is over until we decided it is? Was it

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Speaker 1: over when the Sherman's bomb proler?

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Speaker 10: Sureman, that's why not gone?

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Speaker 2: Gets tough? The tough get gone?

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Speaker 10: What was with me?

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Speaker 9: Fascinating?

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Speaker 2: Fell us back to you, Thanks Silo. I was really

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01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 2: kind of thinking we were going to hear the opening

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Speaker 2: chords of the Law and Order theme song an investigation

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Speaker 2: of this personal attack.

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Speaker 3: Darn it. I think that I do think that he

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Speaker 3: went a little bit like it's hard to have some

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Speaker 3: of the for a guy that was like I was attacked.

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Speaker 3: It's like that it wasn't targeted attack buddy, like you

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Speaker 3: just you had some drunk fans that that shouldn't have

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Speaker 3: been in your way, But it wasn't like they were

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Speaker 3: like I'm gonna get this guy. You know, we we

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Speaker 3: don't have to go that direction.

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Speaker 2: And this time it's personal. There you go, like Josh four, Thankslo.

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Speaker 3: Yeah four, Like is that Sharknado?

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Speaker 1: Is that?

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Speaker 2: Like, No, that's a whole other series. We have a

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Speaker 2: long standing relationship with the director of Sharknado. He once

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Speaker 2: came in on a Sunday morning and brought me candy sharks. Oh,

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Speaker 2: Mom made.

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, they need to watch need to watch Sharknada

1341
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Speaker 3: to get some candy and sharks.

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Speaker 2: We'd probably get him to hook that up.

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Speaker 3: My kids would freak out about that, all right.

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Speaker 2: No, it's pretty cool because we actually kind of hyped

1345
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Speaker 2: it before it existed. Okay, there was a Sunday morning,

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01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 2: We're looking for a little bit of a grab ass story. Uh.

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01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 2: And I saw the trailer for it. I laughed. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I kind of reached out to him. Dude showed up

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Speaker 2: with his dad and a tray of candy sharks at

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Speaker 2: like six o'clock in the morning. Wow. And then we

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Speaker 2: throughout the entirety of the Sharknado series, he would come

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Speaker 2: in to promote the next one, and the uh and

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01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 2: the stars to appear there in Unfortunately, I never got

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Speaker 2: to go and do color commentary and get eaten by

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Speaker 2: shark though. That never worked out. Prayers buddy, Yeah, buddy, Uh,

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Speaker 2: well you know what, I'm not giving up the Hollywood dream.

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Speaker 2: I'm still here, uh pretty, and I'm ready for my

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Speaker 2: uh my turn. And Kevin James and all those other

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Speaker 2: Doughey guys had their run. I need mine too. All right.

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Speaker 2: Now back to the combine and what we're gonna to

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Speaker 2: watch this week and how to properly evaluate things from

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Speaker 2: our you know baseline, Uh well, fanned with a beer

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Speaker 2: in a hand and trying to evaluate.

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Speaker 3: All right, So here's what the combine. But the comments

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Speaker 3: for medical, by the way, that's why it was first,

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Speaker 3: you know, introduced you is a player. You go there

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Speaker 3: and you do a full medical screening. It's a long

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Speaker 3: day for the medical. You're just every team gets a

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Speaker 3: chance to look look you over. They order labs and

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Speaker 3: they order X rays and MRIs and it's that's what

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Speaker 3: the combine is what it is. It's there to give

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Speaker 3: the teams a chance to medically check you out in

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01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:46,839
Speaker 3: one location, one spot. Like they bring portable MRI units

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Speaker 3: like trucks to the facility and at least that's what

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Speaker 3: they did when I was at the RCA Dome obviously.

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Speaker 3: Now it's at Luksoul Stadium, Indianapolis, and that's why. That's

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Speaker 3: the main reason why it's there to do medical checks

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01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 3: all the same time. So if you see players sort

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Speaker 3: of come out of the combine with and the sort

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Speaker 3: of like they dropped a lot of times, it's because

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01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 3: of their medicals do not check out, and there's a

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Speaker 3: medical recheck later in April, I think where players come

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01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 3: back and kind of get medically rechecked in Anneapolis if

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Speaker 3: they're hurt in you know, hitting the combine or for

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Speaker 3: another reason. So that's why it's there. But of course

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Speaker 3: the stuff that we see is the physical, right, It's

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Speaker 3: it's when they work on field and we get to

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Speaker 3: see that. And here's here's what it is for me, Mike,

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Speaker 3: is it is a check for what you see on film. Right.

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Speaker 3: So let's say that that you have a player who

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Speaker 3: you watch on film and you think is slow on film, okay,

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Speaker 3: and they come out and they run an incredible time

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Speaker 3: and the forty their agility drills are fantastic. You have

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01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 3: to go back to the film and say, why does

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01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,599
Speaker 3: not translate on the film? How come I see him

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Speaker 3: run a four three five and with an incredible sixty

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Speaker 3: yard shuttle and I watch him play and he doesn't

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Speaker 3: play as fast as he should, and then vice versa.

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Speaker 3: There are guys that you know, you watch, you watch,

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Speaker 3: you know that that that are super fast on the field,

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01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 3: and then you watch them at the combine they're a

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Speaker 3: little bit slower, and you think and you know. The

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01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 3: example of this is is Pokin Coua the Rams. You know, uh,

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01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 3: great wide receiver rookie. The Rams put out a clip

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01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 3: at the end of the season of them talking about

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01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 3: Pokin Kula in the draft room. It was less need

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Speaker 3: that theyd A manager there, and then it was you know,

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01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 3: Sean McVay, the coach, and I think McVeigh said something like,

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Speaker 3: all he does is make plays in the field, So

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Speaker 3: who cares if he ran a slower forty time than

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01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:47,560
Speaker 3: we thought? And so, but that's what the combine is for.

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Speaker 3: It's for cross checking what you see on film. And

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01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 3: that's the purpose of the physical workouts. Almost nothing that

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01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 3: happens physically in the comm line is going to shock

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01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 3: NFL personnel. They have they have a pretty good idea

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Speaker 3: of what you're going to do there, but just a check.

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01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:11,799
Speaker 3: It's one if there's a hundred plot points to drafting

1418
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 3: a player, you know, the combine, the physical part of

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01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 3: the combine is like two of them, you know, now,

1420
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Speaker 3: the mental part, interviews, the cognitive testing, you know, the medical.

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Speaker 3: The medical might be thirty five plot points, right, you know,

1422
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 3: the mental part of it might be fifteen. But the

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Speaker 3: physical stuff, man, like you've they've watched the film, they

1424
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 3: see how you can play. So it's just a cross

1425
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 3: check on what you see. And so that to me

1426
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Speaker 3: is what the combine is for now. There are certain

1427
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Speaker 3: numbers offensive line the twenty yard shuttle. There are numbers.

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Speaker 3: If you're under four and it's four to four, you're

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01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:52,560
Speaker 3: like guaranteed to have a good career. Part of the

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Speaker 3: physical testing too is you know, if you're a better athlete,

1431
01:12:57,240 --> 01:13:00,120
Speaker 3: you tend to get injured less, just sort of the

1432
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 3: way it is. And so again like if you're a

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01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 3: guy that you know is injured and and you maybe

1434
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 3: test better, we think maybe your injury history can be ignored.

1435
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 3: So there's these are all the things that I look

1436
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Speaker 3: at at.

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Speaker 2: The combine for trying to get confirmation of what you've

1438
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 2: seen on tape and you remember your your times and

1439
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 2: everything from you.

1440
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was slow, but they actually they used a

1441
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 3: speed sun dial or stand dial, whatever it's called. They're

1442
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:33,719
Speaker 3: just like, let's turn over, We'll give him six seconds.

1443
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 3: And it worked out, Okay, I think five three nine maybe, Okay, Yeah,

1444
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 3: I don't think it was terribly terribly fast. By forty

1445
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 3: my shuttle wasn't great. Yeah, I mean I had not

1446
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 3: in an NFL for my athletics score. What's crazy is

1447
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 3: my brother, you know, four time All Pro supt Wall

1448
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 3: champion with the Chiefs, he is a worse worse athletic

1449
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 3: score than me, because like, it doesn't matter. Sometimes scheme matters,

1450
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 3: just being I mean for my brother, I'm I'm sure

1451
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 3: scheme matter. He just he was good. You can block

1452
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:14,639
Speaker 3: people in front of him, That's what mattered. He blocks

1453
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 3: someone in front of you. And so I think a

1454
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 3: lot of teams get into the situation where they they

1455
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 3: just they look at the combine and put a little

1456
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 3: bit too much into the athletic ability of players when

1457
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 3: the film doesn't check out, and you get into a

1458
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 3: lot of a lot of situations where you draft a

1459
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 3: player too high because you're like, well, you know what,

1460
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 3: I can get him into my program and we'll get

1461
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 3: him right. But look, just like you know, I think

1462
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 3: we sort of know in in professions, I mean, there's

1463
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 3: not everyone's good at their job, and there certainly NFL

1464
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 3: coaches aren't good at developing the football players and they

1465
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 3: draft the wrong ones, they draft for wrong reasons. You know.

1466
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 3: Al Davis was very famously like he won the.

1467
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 2: Fastest guys, the fastest guy that.

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Speaker 3: Didn't matter, you know, Belichi, he wants like big wide butt,

1469
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 3: defensive linement, defensive tackles. You know, that works for him.

1470
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Speaker 3: He's great drafting that position. There are certain things that

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01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 3: guys want, no matter how they how they test the

1472
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 3: combine or their their film, like, they just that's what

1473
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 3: they're looking for. So that's what the combine's for in

1474
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:20,680
Speaker 3: my opinion, and you know, you watch this week, you

1475
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 3: get to kind of see see that happen.

1476
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 2: Let's uh, let's stay with the combine for one more segment,

1477
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 2: talking about the the change that is being affected by

1478
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 2: some agencies as we get into this week. He's Jeff

1479
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 2: Schwartz on Mike Carmen here from the tire rac dot Com,

1480
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Studios. We'll do that next Welcome back

1481
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,480
Speaker 2: here Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday, Mike Carmen alongside

1482
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz having a blast with you this morning. Fine

1483
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 2: Jeff on Twitter at Jeff Schwartz all his takes across

1484
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 2: the sporting universe, breakdowns of film, and certainly as we

1485
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 2: get into the combine, some more draft evaluations. Long run

1486
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:59,600
Speaker 2: up has begun. Find me over at Swollen Dome for

1487
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 2: your commentary and random pop culture references that you need

1488
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 2: throughout your day. That's what I'm good for. Next hour,

1489
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 2: we got a tail of pirates potentially disrupting a very

1490
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:16,719
Speaker 2: large sports entertainment event. We'll talk Bellinger's contract and Scott

1491
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 2: Boris and was he whether he won or lost in

1492
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 2: all of these things, and more on the rising of

1493
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,679
Speaker 2: the salary cap. But to finish off the combine, Jeff

1494
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 2: in the Wonderlick test and the cognitive testing and everything

1495
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 2: under fire, the leaked score of c. J. Stroud a

1496
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 2: year ago, and then he goes out and lights the

1497
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 2: world on fire for the Houston Texans. Several agencies saying

1498
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:44,600
Speaker 2: they won't have their guys commit to doing any of

1499
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 2: those this year, other agents advising against it. We talk medicals,

1500
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 2: talk some of the physical like the shuttles and the

1501
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 2: forty times in all, but when it came to the testing,

1502
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 2: you know what do you remember of that part of

1503
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 2: the process, whether it be random inner few questions thrown

1504
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 2: in between your your processes, or or the test itself.

1505
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 3: Well, look, I mean it's just we did the wonder Lick.

1506
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 3: I mean, it is what it is. It's I think

1507
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 3: I think it translates. Well, I mean, look, it just

1508
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:19,560
Speaker 3: depends in the position, right, I mean some positions you

1509
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 3: want a good wonder Look score are the ones you

1510
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 3: don't care. I don't care if my defensive end can

1511
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:26,600
Speaker 3: do a Wonderlok test. Can you stack the quarterback? You know,

1512
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 3: like you know it doesn't you know, if.

1513
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 2: A proper move to get them.

1514
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 3: If you're the center, I would imagine you probably want

1515
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 3: a good wonder Look score. You know every center I

1516
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 3: played with Ryan Khalil, Rodney Hudson, you know John Sullivan,

1517
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 3: with the Vikings, Western Richburg. I mean, these guys are

1518
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 3: are just like brilliant at at They're very bright, they're

1519
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 3: very intelligent. They process very quickly. To me, it's about process,

1520
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 3: you know, sort of processing quickly, and I think that's

1521
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 3: what some of the tests are about. He processed under pressure?

1522
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,759
Speaker 3: Can you process? But look, to be fair, some guys

1523
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 3: are better at processing on a football for them processing

1524
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 3: in a classroom, and that's totally fine. That's why I

1525
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 3: think some of the tests, you know, just I don't know.

1526
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 3: Last year, right, Stroud got a really low cognitive test score.

1527
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 3: Did it like he cognitively couldn't read a defense last season?

1528
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 4: No?

1529
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 3: I mean that's why I think you think some of

1530
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 3: these numbers with a grain of salt.

1531
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 2: As I recall going back through watching him throughout the year, Right,

1532
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 2: he had a makeshift offensive line for a good chunk

1533
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 2: of the first half of the season. Right, guys on

1534
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:38,480
Speaker 2: ir and everything else seemed to get through his progressions

1535
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 2: pretty well. Tanked Dell Nico Collins, et cetera looking to

1536
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 2: become stars. They brought in Dalton Schultz, did a lot

1537
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 2: of things, but at the end of the day, you know, CJ.

1538
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:53,639
Speaker 2: Stroud was a guy that translated his talents very quickly.

1539
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,640
Speaker 2: And every year we hear, you know, we'll always have

1540
01:18:56,760 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 2: the leaked test result of a quarterback who doesn't farewell,

1541
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,639
Speaker 2: and certainly that's part of the process. I guess we've

1542
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:07,640
Speaker 2: just kind of decided long ago that was going to

1543
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 2: be you know, the price of admission, I guess to

1544
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 2: some degree. And then all right, go prove otherwise for

1545
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 2: more talking points if nothing else out of the combine.

1546
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 2: To me, I'm with you. It's like, you know, position

1547
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 2: to position, it's got to be different in terms of

1548
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 2: evaluation because i'd rather, you know, have you whiteboard it

1549
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 2: for me, you know that you understand concept and then

1550
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,639
Speaker 2: can go actually, you know, have the quick twitch muscles

1551
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:34,559
Speaker 2: to make the play work.

1552
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's so that's why. Look again,

1553
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 3: they're all pieces to the larger puzzle, right, They're they're

1554
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 3: like the cognitive testing that the combine results no matter,

1555
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 3: it's all encompassing. For so, if if you're in round

1556
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 3: four and you're deciding between Jeff Schwartz and someone else,

1557
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 3: and you're like, you know what I really value Schwartz's

1558
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 3: test scores are better? Okay, fine, the draft me. You know,

1559
01:19:58,280 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 3: like that's where the tie breaker comes.

1560
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 2: Sometimes Ty goes to the runner. There you go. Do

1561
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 2: you remember any of the crazy ass team questions that

1562
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:05,719
Speaker 2: you were asked?

1563
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 3: I did't. I didn't get a lot of those. I

1564
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:08,640
Speaker 3: was a seventh rop pick ma i' get them in

1565
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 3: many of those meetings.

1566
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 2: Okay, well, but hey, look you still got into the

1567
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 2: room and then and wowed them eight years worth and

1568
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 2: at Jeff Schwartz is how we get smarter from his

1569
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 2: experience coming out Next, we turn our attention to Major

1570
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 2: League Baseball. Cody Bellinger signs a deal, but I believe

1571
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 2: the devils are in the detail. We'll tell you what

1572
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 2: that means as we continue here. He's Jeff Schwartz, I'm

1573
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 2: by Carmen, and this is Fox Sports Radio. Welcome in

1574
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 2: final hour of the program here on a beautiful Fox

1575
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday. Thanks for making us part of your day

1576
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 2: wherever you are. By Carmen, Jeff Schwartz with you here

1577
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 2: our three of our tenure as we get ready for

1578
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 2: a big day of college buckets, the NBA, Fast and furious,

1579
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 2: some Major League Baseball spring training games, college buckets in

1580
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 2: front of me, some golf. I mean you talk about it,

1581
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 2: every sport represented, plenty of wagering options. How many apps

1582
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:04,679
Speaker 2: you got up, Jeff?

1583
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 3: Well, so I don't have legal sports wagering.

1584
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I guess not. March eleventh, just before the tourney.

1585
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 2: So there you go, just in time, well time between.

1586
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 3: I'm still able to get to to get into wagering though,

1587
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 3: believe it or not, you know still able to make

1588
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 3: it work.

1589
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 2: There's plenty of ways in the place.

1590
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 3: You know. The thing about college basketball is obviously, you know,

1591
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 3: I turned my attention to it after you know, the

1592
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 3: you know, basically after football is done, and so you're

1593
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:37,639
Speaker 3: I'm a little late to the party, and so it's

1594
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 3: sometimes hard to wager on a support when you're late

1595
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 3: to the party. So what I do is I and

1596
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 3: this is important wagering. Sometimes if you find the mush,

1597
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 3: you find the person that you can fade. So I

1598
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 3: found a couple of people that I just fade. That

1599
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 3: That's what I do for, you know, to be able

1600
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 3: to get in on the action. I just fade people

1601
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 3: when they post that picks the internet.

1602
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 2: I did kind of enjoy that being a regular part

1603
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 2: of Countdown to kick Off, as I would be leaving

1604
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 2: the studio after handing the reins off to you Crack

1605
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 2: and Brian each Sunday morning, and I never quite figured

1606
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 2: out who you were referencing in terms of your football MUSHes.

1607
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 3: I can text it to you.

1608
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 2: Oh, I appreciate that. Yeah, yeah, because I've certainly got

1609
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:23,680
Speaker 2: a few folks that I know I'm not following any

1610
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,680
Speaker 2: of their advice, not that I'm getting into the wagering game. California.

1611
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 2: We may be, even if we're the most desperate economy

1612
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 2: to get involved with such things, maybe the last to

1613
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:36,680
Speaker 2: embrace wagering. And I've yet to go drive to a

1614
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 2: Nevada line or anything to go do any of it,

1615
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 2: or back tunnel in or all of those fun things

1616
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 2: like folks do. But it's certainly entertaining and those information points.

1617
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 2: You know, as you're watching games, there's certainly ways to

1618
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 2: add that element to it, to your evaluation and certainly

1619
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 2: as your game watching.

1620
01:22:57,560 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's important to have all information in

1621
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 3: front of you, you know, that's it.

1622
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:03,560
Speaker 2: I want every piece of data that I can and

1623
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 2: if there's someone that I can actively just kind of

1624
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 2: watch their continued misery in the space I do. Did

1625
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 2: you see the Saturday Ant Live skit that was making

1626
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 2: the rounds.

1627
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 3: The bottom app It was incredibly funny.

1628
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 2: That might be one of the funniest things they've done

1629
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 2: in quite some time on Saturday Night Live. We'll make

1630
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 2: sure to get that up at Swollen Dome on Twitter.

1631
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 2: I don't know that we we should play it. There's

1632
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 2: nothing offensive in it just gets a little long. Yeah,

1633
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 2: So it's long long in the short of it, kind

1634
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 2: of talking about now you can bet on your friends

1635
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 2: and their failures, kind of like you would bet against

1636
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 2: the mush and watch the role face.

1637
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Speaker 3: Yes exactly, Yes exactly.

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Speaker 2: buying should be. As you said, we've got spring training

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Speaker 2: baseball in Earnest. We finally in the overnight hours about

1644
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 2: midnight Pacific time, was when I first saw it in

1645
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 2: my timeline. Cody Bellinger three years, eighty million dollars with

1646
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 2: the Cubs, one of many Scott Boris clients still was

1647
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:19,799
Speaker 2: still looking for work as of Saturday afternoon and waiting

1648
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 2: for the marketplace to decide their worth. I think the

1649
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 2: big thing the devil in the details that I teased Jeff,

1650
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 2: he's got a player option after each year.

1651
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 3: I saw that. Yeah, so it's a one year deal.

1652
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, so one year deal about twenty seven million dollars

1653
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 2: and basically the go bet on yourself based on having

1654
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:43,759
Speaker 2: had several dismal years and your name becoming mud around

1655
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,560
Speaker 2: the game. Right, those last couple of years with the

1656
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:50,799
Speaker 2: Dodgers not exactly what you thought when you had Rookie

1657
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:53,759
Speaker 2: of the Year and everything else as he started his career.

1658
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 2: But now it's perhaps going to get the spurse some

1659
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 2: activity across Major League Baseball, which would be good because

1660
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:03,719
Speaker 2: you know, there's some big names still floating.

1661
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Belgier one. I mean, look, he got how

1662
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 3: much a year? It's five for seventy, is that what

1663
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 3: it was?

1664
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 2: Well, it ended up being three for eighty. Okay, sues

1665
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 2: thirty million this year, thirty and twenty twenty five.

1666
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 3: It must to be like really into like hot stove stuff,

1667
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 3: and I just I just I don't know if I

1668
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:28,639
Speaker 3: just not as much anymore.

1669
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 2: You know what's funny though, Jeff, we were actually just

1670
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 2: talking about this. The break is that the hot stove

1671
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 2: didn't what didn't get really hot this year?

1672
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 3: So do you know, I think it's because I don't

1673
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:45,680
Speaker 3: know if that sort of helps you win a championship,

1674
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 3: you know, like we've seen teams win with a lot

1675
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:54,839
Speaker 3: of homegrown players, and obviously you can add certain pieces

1676
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 3: here and there. I mean The Rangers certainly added pitching, right,

1677
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 3: but I don't you know, buy a team does that

1678
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 3: win a lot of World Series?

1679
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 2: I think the data would suggest that hybrid model what

1680
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 2: has to work right, even go back to Bellinger's team,

1681
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 2: the Cubs right their run when they finally broke the

1682
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 2: one hundred and eight year streak. The Yes, they went

1683
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:20,640
Speaker 2: and added some big name, big price guys, but it

1684
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 2: was the core of that squad that was brought up

1685
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 2: through the minor leagues, are acquired very early in the process.

1686
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:30,760
Speaker 2: Go back to the Yankees and the core that they had. Yes,

1687
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 2: they went and bought a ton of guys, but it's still,

1688
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 2: you know, you have four guys that were at a

1689
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 2: minimum Hall of Fame considerations, let alone walking straight through

1690
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 2: the door. So go on down the process. I think

1691
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 2: most teams, that's what you're finding.

1692
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I don't I just only helps you

1693
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 3: win a championship as much as I thought. I think it,

1694
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:53,599
Speaker 3: just as I just have gotten a ton of tired

1695
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 3: of it.

1696
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 2: Is it because you're mad at the Dodgers this year?

1697
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 3: I mean the Dodgers just it's gonna be more funny

1698
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 3: when they lose the Division around to someone it's even better.

1699
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I mean, that's the big experiment. And that's

1700
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 2: the thing here in Los Angeles. You know, as we

1701
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 2: look at baseball overall, I mean it's what one hundred

1702
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 2: and three and a half I think was their win

1703
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 2: total as we start doing our deep dives of that

1704
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:19,679
Speaker 2: as spring training is underway. But it's just the idea

1705
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 2: of all right, we've seen you make the playoffs. Yeah,

1706
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter, like unless you actually go into and

1707
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 2: win it all or something spectacular and chaotic happens in

1708
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:33,600
Speaker 2: a Game seven of a World Series, like it'll just

1709
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 2: be seen as a failure no matter how much money

1710
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:40,560
Speaker 2: you print. Correct with the arrival of the players that

1711
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 2: you did this offseason. So yeah, that's to where I'm at.

1712
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:46,920
Speaker 2: You know, they do have the core of homegrown guys,

1713
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:50,599
Speaker 2: but those you know, they're like crying for air at

1714
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 2: this point with the free agents and trades that have

1715
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 2: been made through the year. How about we stay here

1716
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles to talk National Football League back to

1717
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:02,599
Speaker 2: college because we've I've seen the exodus of coaches saying

1718
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:05,799
Speaker 2: all right, I'm done with this, I'm done with this process,

1719
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 2: and I'm going to go back and find myself a

1720
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 2: coordinator job or something in the NFL, or I'm leaving

1721
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 2: a head coaching job like we saw at UCLA with

1722
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:22,320
Speaker 2: Chip Kelly embattled in a situation with administration. I think nationally,

1723
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 2: I don't think that guy is much play in the

1724
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 2: decision making ass it did here in La Jeff, you know,

1725
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 2: just he and Martin Jerremond and and talking about even

1726
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 2: going back to last year, a lot of rumors that

1727
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 2: Chip was going to be fired. So opportunity to go

1728
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 2: to Ohio State comes and now Eric b enemy. The

1729
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 2: door swings open and he walks in. You've got new

1730
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:48,560
Speaker 2: new coach, Deshaun Foster and bringing the enemy in to

1731
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 2: run the offense and be an assistant head coach.

1732
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:56,120
Speaker 3: So I see people you know today being you know

1733
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 3: the common take of like, well, you know, b enemy

1734
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 3: get screwed. He can't get a NFL job, coaching job.

1735
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 3: He interviewed like seventeen times. No one will hire him

1736
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 3: in the NFL. So there has to be a reason why.

1737
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 3: It can't just be that he's a minority candidate, right.

1738
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 3: I Mean, maybe I'm being super naive here, but I

1739
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 3: he's interviewed a lot a lot of times and teams

1740
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:31,720
Speaker 3: keep saying no, college teams keep saying no. I'm not

1741
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 3: sure he's interviewed that much for college jobs. But Colorado

1742
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 3: maybe he did before Diane was hired. And he's gone backwards, right,

1743
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:44,639
Speaker 3: chiefs OC Commander's OC Bruins OC. Right, I mean it's

1744
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:46,800
Speaker 3: backwards in the eyeboat of the boulder, right. I mean,

1745
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 3: you know, you see, like job is not a.

1746
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 2: Bad Sure, it's not a bad job, but it's not

1747
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:52,839
Speaker 2: you know, running the Chiefs offense.

1748
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:55,600
Speaker 3: Sure, But so like that's sort of my question is

1749
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 3: like there has to be a reason why no one

1750
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 3: will hire him as head coach. Now, look, you can

1751
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 3: look in his past and there's certainly things that aren't

1752
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:08,519
Speaker 3: great too. If you're an NFL head coach and you're

1753
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 3: at the podium and you have to answer questions about

1754
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:14,040
Speaker 3: what happened in the mid nineties, right, go.

1755
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 2: Back to when he was in college.

1756
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 3: Yet I don't know, we we have players that have

1757
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 3: done you know that they're playing in the NFL. Then

1758
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:28,600
Speaker 3: he'll have gone in trouble with the law. And so

1759
01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 3: I I don't think that's the only reason why he's

1760
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 3: not a head coach. There's something else has to be

1761
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 3: a reason why he can't get head coaching job. I

1762
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 3: don't know what that is. You know, people theorize, well,

1763
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 3: he's you know, he's be harsh in the players. I don't.

1764
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:45,679
Speaker 3: I don't know. Coaches are harsh, who cares. Most players

1765
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 3: are fine with being being coached aggressively, you know, and

1766
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 3: then there's a time and place for it sometimes. But

1767
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:54,560
Speaker 3: that to me is not a thing that, oh he

1768
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 3: coaches too hard, he can't be NFL head coach. It

1769
01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:00,519
Speaker 3: feels silly to me. So so there's a reason why.

1770
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:03,599
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe someone will come out one day

1771
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 3: and give us like a definitive reason why. I don't

1772
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:10,240
Speaker 3: know what that is, but there's something. And so he's

1773
01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 3: going to UCLA, which I have always actually thought that

1774
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:18,560
Speaker 3: he reminded me more of a college head coach with

1775
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 3: his personality than I think he'd be a tenacious recruiter man.

1776
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:25,519
Speaker 3: I just I've always sort of felt and I played

1777
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:27,200
Speaker 3: with him for one year, my brother offic he cansay,

1778
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 3: for a lot of years. I always sort of saw

1779
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 3: him as a college head coach, and so I wonder

1780
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:34,840
Speaker 3: if this jump starts sort of a college career for

1781
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:37,800
Speaker 3: him as a as a coach. But look, he's going

1782
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:40,720
Speaker 3: to UCLA. He'll be with to Sean Foster, and I'm

1783
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:42,800
Speaker 3: curious to see sort of how this works out. They

1784
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 3: don't really even Garber's I think it's a quarterback right now.

1785
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:48,280
Speaker 3: He's Okay, he's not you know, he's not gonna lie

1786
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:50,400
Speaker 3: to the big ten. But I think the story to

1787
01:31:50,479 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 3: me is like, why why is being to me not

1788
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 3: head coach the NFL And then also sort of debunking

1789
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 3: this idea that basically every college coach hates the job

1790
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 3: and is leaving to go somewhere else.

1791
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 2: Well, he is now officially we call him Salmon because

1792
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:07,840
Speaker 2: he swam against the stream.

1793
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:11,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Salmon. But the fact is, like Washington hired four

1794
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 3: NFL head coach, four NFL coaches including Steve Belichick, uh

1795
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:18,240
Speaker 3: to be on their on their staff. Like it goes

1796
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:18,880
Speaker 3: both ways.

1797
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 1: There's not.

1798
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:23,320
Speaker 3: Yes, there are college coaches that certainly do not like

1799
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 3: name of Julys and the transfer portal and find it

1800
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 3: very difficult for the job, and there are certainly coaches

1801
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:31,519
Speaker 3: that have left the profession because of that or gone

1802
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:34,560
Speaker 3: or gone to the NFL. But also, the NFL is

1803
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:37,320
Speaker 3: a better job if you're Ryan Grubb. Okay, you're the

1804
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:41,720
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator for We've been with Kalen Debor Washington coach

1805
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:43,880
Speaker 3: now Alabama sad coach for years and years. Right, they

1806
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:46,680
Speaker 3: had been your guy. And the Seattle Seahawks call you

1807
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:50,040
Speaker 3: and say, hey, man, do you want to be you know,

1808
01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:52,560
Speaker 3: do you want to be the the office corner for

1809
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 3: for the Seahawks will pay him more money? Okay, you have.

1810
01:32:57,680 --> 01:33:01,360
Speaker 3: You won't have to recruit high school as anymore. We

1811
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 3: won't have to worry about the transfer portal. It's a

1812
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 3: better job. Of course you're taking the better job.

1813
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:10,760
Speaker 2: It seems, at least on the surface, a much more.

1814
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 9: Uh.

1815
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:13,720
Speaker 2: We we always talk about work life balance and talk

1816
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:15,719
Speaker 2: about it. You actually get some of your life instead

1817
01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:16,920
Speaker 2: of being on the recruiting trail.

1818
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:19,600
Speaker 3: Do you have to you know, do you have to?

1819
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:20,080
Speaker 4: Uh?

1820
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:23,920
Speaker 3: You know? I look, I I know of college coaches

1821
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:25,800
Speaker 3: that I've asked them, you know, like there it's a

1822
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:28,559
Speaker 3: year round job. Man. Guess what guess the NFL coaches

1823
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 3: do after this season? They get to take a break.

1824
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 3: You know, college coaches are recruiting, they're they're thinking about

1825
01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 3: their roster NonStop. The portal and look again, I'm not

1826
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:39,920
Speaker 3: disagreeing with coaches that do not like the calendar of

1827
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:41,680
Speaker 3: college football right now and do not like the way

1828
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 3: you know, like what what what it has become. I

1829
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:46,760
Speaker 3: am not disagreeing with you at all there, but it's

1830
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 3: not this widespread, you know, pandemic of coaches leaving, because

1831
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:53,760
Speaker 3: plenty of coaches, by the way, have come to college

1832
01:33:53,800 --> 01:34:00,760
Speaker 3: football from the NFL. And so I understand again the

1833
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:03,120
Speaker 3: talking points, I just don't think that they're really accurate

1834
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 3: with the way the reality of this, And so I'm

1835
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 3: curiously eric being to be in this role. I think

1836
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:10,560
Speaker 3: college head coach could be in his future if the

1837
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:12,760
Speaker 3: Bruins play well this the next couple of years in

1838
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:13,200
Speaker 3: the Big ten.

1839
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the danger of it, Jeff, is it

1840
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:19,679
Speaker 2: all just gets put in the same bucket, right because

1841
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:24,559
Speaker 2: guys like Nick Saban, Mike Krzyzewski go on down the line,

1842
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 2: other coaches that have left, they had their careers, right,

1843
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:30,679
Speaker 2: Nick Saban can say, well, it's you know, I couldn't

1844
01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 2: look people in the eye and say I'll be here

1845
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:34,479
Speaker 2: three to five years. Maybe that's it. You know, it's

1846
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:36,680
Speaker 2: a big pie, right, And how big a chunk of

1847
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 2: that was all the extra that you had to do.

1848
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:42,240
Speaker 2: You always had to do the hand slaps and shake

1849
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:44,880
Speaker 2: hands at the rubber Chicken dinners a couple times a year.

1850
01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 2: But now you've got to actively manage all right, how

1851
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 2: many of these guys are legitimately getting ready to leave?

1852
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:52,960
Speaker 2: Like if you've been in the game thirty years, I

1853
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:54,800
Speaker 2: don't know that you want to deal with that part

1854
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 2: of it, right. A lot of these other guys were

1855
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 2: talking about moving back and forth, like you know, they

1856
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 2: they stepped out as opposed to stepped over like they

1857
01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:05,960
Speaker 2: but they're lumped into the same category.

1858
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:14,560
Speaker 3: Certainly. Yeah, I'm uh, and I think with you know,

1859
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 3: basically the judge in Tennessee saying like and they put

1860
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:20,760
Speaker 3: it in juncture like n AL is basically legal, and

1861
01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:23,599
Speaker 3: like ZEBA has no authority right now at the challenge NIL,

1862
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 3: it's gonna even celebrate more out of control.

1863
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:26,640
Speaker 1: No.

1864
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:29,160
Speaker 2: But but that's another why don't we put a pin

1865
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 2: in that. Let's talk about that next, because I had

1866
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:34,479
Speaker 2: that in our our laundry list of fun and excitement

1867
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:37,560
Speaker 2: for the week. So we got our b enemy checkbox.

1868
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:40,680
Speaker 2: Let's let's do the NIL a bit because you know,

1869
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:43,680
Speaker 2: again more hand ringing in our business for sure, he's

1870
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:46,680
Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz. I'm Mike Krmen. It's Fox Sports Sunday on

1871
01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:51,679
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back in Fox Sports Sunday, Fox

1872
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:55,639
Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Mike Carmen alongside Jeff Schwartz. Follow Jeff on Twitter,

1873
01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:59,639
Speaker 2: x at Jeff Schwartz, find me over at Swollen Dome.

1874
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:05,640
Speaker 2: And Jeff started talking coming out of our discussions, you know,

1875
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:09,160
Speaker 2: as as we look at the the NFL and all

1876
01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:13,200
Speaker 2: of these you know combine processes, well, they're coming out

1877
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:17,479
Speaker 2: of college football and the changes coaches leaving a lot

1878
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 2: of disruptions, some into retirement, others trying to see where

1879
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:24,960
Speaker 2: the grass may be greener. But the nil ruling that

1880
01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:29,040
Speaker 2: came down in Tennessee, as as you mentioned, the injunction

1881
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 2: against any action in the portal during recruitment, all of

1882
01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 2: those things, I'm wondering if this is where Florida State right,

1883
01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:40,519
Speaker 2: because they got slapped on the hands and they say, hey,

1884
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 2: do we get that back in the interim while you

1885
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 2: legislate this and adjudicate this. But it's an uncertain time

1886
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 2: and you know, trying to figure out what the guard

1887
01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:53,760
Speaker 2: rails are, if any, you know, just teams racing to

1888
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:55,360
Speaker 2: put infrastructure in place.

1889
01:36:56,600 --> 01:37:01,360
Speaker 3: So what happened was, let's double A decided to sanction

1890
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:07,040
Speaker 3: Tennessee for NIL infractions. And again I mean nil, namage

1891
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:12,559
Speaker 3: and likeness as turned from traditional ideas of what NIL

1892
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:14,680
Speaker 3: is going was going to be. So for example, n

1893
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:17,800
Speaker 3: IL is supposed to be Caitlin Clark and Iowa baller, right,

1894
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:21,880
Speaker 3: we know that, and she gets a bunch of marketing

1895
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:26,560
Speaker 3: deals because she is who she is, and that is

1896
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:30,599
Speaker 3: what NIL is what designed for Now, we knew when

1897
01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:34,920
Speaker 3: this became and was announced as being capable pay for

1898
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:37,160
Speaker 3: play was going to happen, right when schools were saying, hey,

1899
01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:38,680
Speaker 3: come to our school. We'll give you X amount of

1900
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:42,240
Speaker 3: money if you come. That's what the NAA is trying

1901
01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 3: to stop. But again they they put no guardrails in

1902
01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:47,519
Speaker 3: when they announced this. They just it just happened because

1903
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 3: of color of the Supreme Court, right, super court, and

1904
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 3: then lost the case nine nothing. You know, hardest to

1905
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:59,000
Speaker 3: lose the case nine nothing in the Supreme Court, and

1906
01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:04,120
Speaker 3: they they lost. They lost that. They resoundly lost to

1907
01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:06,439
Speaker 3: a Supreme court that most often is five to four,

1908
01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:10,519
Speaker 3: six to three. They lost nine to nothing. All right, son,

1909
01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:15,240
Speaker 3: the NBA tried to sanction Tennessee. Tennessee sued them, and

1910
01:38:16,160 --> 01:38:20,599
Speaker 3: the court in Tennessee put basically a stay in place

1911
01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:24,880
Speaker 3: to where they get to argue this case and to

1912
01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:30,160
Speaker 3: pause the NBA's ruling on Tennessee's sanctions. So that essentially

1913
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:33,160
Speaker 3: means that the n double A, for the for to

1914
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:37,400
Speaker 3: this case is settled, cannot do anything in regards to

1915
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:42,240
Speaker 3: sanctioning anyone for NIL sanctions because it's going through the

1916
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:45,160
Speaker 3: court process right now. So it basically allows free reign

1917
01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:47,679
Speaker 3: for anyone to do whatever they want in the nl space,

1918
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:51,559
Speaker 3: which again is sort of already happening anyways. And nble

1919
01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:56,640
Speaker 3: A just continually sort of gets outwitted by everybody in

1920
01:38:56,760 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 3: these situations where they just they don't ever see what's coming.

1921
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 3: They don't ever see it, and certainly possibly they wanted

1922
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 3: this to be done so the courts can decide they

1923
01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:08,000
Speaker 3: can just be done with it, or Congress can step

1924
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:09,160
Speaker 3: you know, can step in and do what they have

1925
01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:13,040
Speaker 3: to do. But they just continually sort of never plan

1926
01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:16,000
Speaker 3: ahead for these things, and they lose these court cases,

1927
01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:19,720
Speaker 3: they lose them in the court of public opinion, and

1928
01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 3: it will continue happening until the Big two of college

1929
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:28,599
Speaker 3: football as you see in the Big Ten break away

1930
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:32,400
Speaker 3: and form their own football conference essentially, their own football

1931
01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 3: which I think is gonna happen eventually. I think that

1932
01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:37,479
Speaker 3: maybe basketball is involved in it. But there will be

1933
01:39:37,560 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 3: a time when the Big two basically control their own

1934
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:46,479
Speaker 3: football league essentially, and that's gonna happen, you know, maybe

1935
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 3: sooner or later, I don't know, but it's gonna happen eventually.

1936
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:52,240
Speaker 3: And maybe that's when this and then Double A sort

1937
01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:54,360
Speaker 3: of ceases to have any power. At the end of

1938
01:39:54,400 --> 01:40:02,360
Speaker 3: Double A, they don't really serve a function because their

1939
01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:06,519
Speaker 3: only job is like hosting tournaments, like they don't. They don't.

1940
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:09,559
Speaker 3: The Bowl season is not THEIRS, right, the Cultural Playoff

1941
01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:14,120
Speaker 3: is not THEIRS. That's ESPN's man. They don't serve a

1942
01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:17,320
Speaker 3: function really in college football.

1943
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:19,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, for football and basketball at this point, they.

1944
01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:22,280
Speaker 3: Well, they put on March Madness, right, that's I think

1945
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:24,320
Speaker 3: that's what they do. They put on tournaments, they put

1946
01:40:24,360 --> 01:40:26,120
Speaker 3: on the softball tournament, they put on the baseball the

1947
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:28,960
Speaker 3: Cult World Series. But they don't really have a function

1948
01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:33,679
Speaker 3: other than that, so they will become obsolete. Whether court

1949
01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:36,720
Speaker 3: through the courts are through cong I don't know what

1950
01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 3: they're gonna do. But there's another example that being sort

1951
01:40:39,479 --> 01:40:40,240
Speaker 3: of outwitted.

1952
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:43,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, trying to hold on to the last vestiges of power,

1953
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:46,680
Speaker 2: thinking everybody will just acquiesce, right, and we're not.

1954
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:50,599
Speaker 3: Everyone's pushing in school for saying no, we're not. We're

1955
01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:52,040
Speaker 3: not listening to you anymore. We're doing what we want

1956
01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:54,599
Speaker 3: to do because the courts have recognized that you don't

1957
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:55,240
Speaker 3: have much power.

1958
01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, the curiosity becomes, you know, going back to Caine

1959
01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:03,280
Speaker 2: Colter and those Northwestern players years ago, when we start looking.

1960
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:08,080
Speaker 3: At you, I I don't think that I don't think

1961
01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:11,360
Speaker 3: that they're gonna unionize. I just think they're gonna end

1962
01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:15,439
Speaker 3: up where it's what it is now, which is just

1963
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:20,880
Speaker 3: free reign and pay for play, and the smart schools

1964
01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 3: understand how to properly structure pay for play to where

1965
01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 3: it's not something they're gonna get caught doing, and the

1966
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:37,439
Speaker 3: schools will all figure out I think, I think eventually

1967
01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 3: how to do that for themselves. I just have this

1968
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:45,519
Speaker 3: ecosystem now where players are getting paid and we just

1969
01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:48,080
Speaker 3: continue on college sports in a different sort of different

1970
01:41:48,160 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 3: vibe than we have in the past. I also think

1971
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 3: that you know, we there's there there there's certainly a

1972
01:41:58,040 --> 01:42:00,439
Speaker 3: large amount of money being spent on this college athletes

1973
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:03,240
Speaker 3: right from a pay for play standpoint versus if we're

1974
01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:07,120
Speaker 3: calling it that, and the market always sort of corrects itself.

1975
01:42:07,160 --> 01:42:09,639
Speaker 3: And we're in year like three of this now where

1976
01:42:09,680 --> 01:42:13,639
Speaker 3: I think once these big boosters that they're paying these

1977
01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:17,000
Speaker 3: you know, they're putting thegether of these collectives. Once they

1978
01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:20,639
Speaker 3: realize they're not winning championships and the return on investment

1979
01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 3: is just not there, I think we'll see less of

1980
01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:27,240
Speaker 3: the money being thrown out there because the people that

1981
01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:29,840
Speaker 3: are donating to these collectives and running them their business like,

1982
01:42:29,960 --> 01:42:31,479
Speaker 3: they want to make money, right, they want the return

1983
01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:34,519
Speaker 3: on investments obviously winning a championship. And I think if

1984
01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:39,080
Speaker 3: once some of these I think boosters realize that they're

1985
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:42,240
Speaker 3: not going to win quite the same way, they might

1986
01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 3: not put as much money into them and players are

1987
01:42:44,360 --> 01:42:45,960
Speaker 3: I think I'll get a little bit less over the years.

1988
01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:48,240
Speaker 3: It's my guess on how this ends up finishing.

1989
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 2: Oh, I think you're one hundred percent right, right, I mean,

1990
01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:53,240
Speaker 2: especially if you're one of these halves. You know, as

1991
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:55,439
Speaker 2: we always do, the haves and have nots that think

1992
01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:57,960
Speaker 2: you can buy for a title. Yeah, that's that's why

1993
01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:00,720
Speaker 2: you're ponying up the extra dollars. Man, I love the

1994
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:03,720
Speaker 2: YouTube little guys in the in their basement. Hey, this

1995
01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:06,519
Speaker 2: four star recruit, he's gonna leave the state. And unless

1996
01:43:06,640 --> 01:43:07,879
Speaker 2: you don't hate now.

1997
01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:11,320
Speaker 3: Well like old Miss ocause Old Miss went really heavy

1998
01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:13,559
Speaker 3: this year into like the portal and sort of getting

1999
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:17,439
Speaker 3: you know, players and loading up. If they don't win

2000
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:22,960
Speaker 3: a championship, do you are they gonna do that next year? Look,

2001
01:43:23,320 --> 01:43:26,439
Speaker 3: let's do they go ten into this year, don't make

2002
01:43:26,479 --> 01:43:29,479
Speaker 3: a playoff, don't even make a playoff? Are they gonna

2003
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:31,400
Speaker 3: go for it next year? And this quite the same way,

2004
01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:34,439
Speaker 3: It's possible. They think, okay, we can get there eventually,

2005
01:43:35,080 --> 01:43:37,479
Speaker 3: But I argue the answer will be no, they're not

2006
01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:39,920
Speaker 3: gonna invest quite the same next year if they don't

2007
01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:42,880
Speaker 3: succeed this year, or they're gonna end up getting you know,

2008
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:45,560
Speaker 3: the play hire a new coach to do so, you know.

2009
01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:47,840
Speaker 3: But I think that that that's where we're heading into

2010
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:50,120
Speaker 3: this eventually. But right now it is the wild West.

2011
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:52,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is the curiosity right. It was one of

2012
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:55,840
Speaker 2: my criticisms of my alma mater and Northwestern guy, Like,

2013
01:43:56,000 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 2: here was something designed for the networking of that school,

2014
01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:03,080
Speaker 2: and they were late to the game. Yeah, like they

2015
01:44:03,120 --> 01:44:06,200
Speaker 2: didn't get on board, Like this was tailor made for

2016
01:44:06,320 --> 01:44:09,960
Speaker 2: a school like Northwestern or Syracuse or some of these others.

2017
01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:13,760
Speaker 2: Like you know, we can go in and where academics

2018
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:16,519
Speaker 2: fit in all this, Jeff. But you know, traditionally in

2019
01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:19,560
Speaker 2: terms of recruiting and processing and whatever. You know, the

2020
01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:23,240
Speaker 2: rules of engagement have changed, and if you want to compete,

2021
01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 2: you know, you've got to be at the party.

2022
01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:25,479
Speaker 4: Now.

2023
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:28,000
Speaker 2: Some of it there is some value. I guess to

2024
01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:30,560
Speaker 2: wait to see how the market plays out, but you

2025
01:44:30,600 --> 01:44:32,720
Speaker 2: at least need to have those first steps because that's

2026
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:35,560
Speaker 2: a lot of infrastructure that needs to be put in

2027
01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:39,080
Speaker 2: right for the players, for their families, for like that,

2028
01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:42,400
Speaker 2: there's a lot of hand holding and and and stuff

2029
01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:44,639
Speaker 2: you need to do in addition to getting the kid

2030
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:47,200
Speaker 2: into the gym or on the practice field.

2031
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:52,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, and at school they're sort of figuring out what

2032
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:54,680
Speaker 3: that's going to take in this new environment. But I

2033
01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:59,599
Speaker 3: think we're gonna again. I think when football breaks away,

2034
01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:00,559
Speaker 3: since no.

2035
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:04,160
Speaker 2: I and and and I see your your thing lines

2036
01:45:04,240 --> 01:45:05,160
Speaker 2: up perfectly.

2037
01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:08,519
Speaker 3: We'll have a different again, a different structure. I don't know,

2038
01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:10,840
Speaker 3: if basketball does it in the same way football is

2039
01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:12,400
Speaker 3: going to do it, and then I think we go

2040
01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:16,639
Speaker 3: back to regional you know, the Olympic sports played regional schedules.

2041
01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:21,080
Speaker 3: It is. I live in North Carolina. It's ludicrous to

2042
01:45:21,160 --> 01:45:24,160
Speaker 3: me that Callen Stanford have to come out to the

2043
01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:32,400
Speaker 3: Carolinas to play conference soccer games r road. And I mean, yeah,

2044
01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:34,840
Speaker 3: they come out here and play all five schools within

2045
01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:39,000
Speaker 3: driving distance. They play you know, be Anti State, UNC, Duke, Awake,

2046
01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:41,200
Speaker 3: and Clemson. They just come out here for two weeks

2047
01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 3: and do it all. But to me just found it's

2048
01:45:43,720 --> 01:45:45,920
Speaker 3: extremely silly when they could just guess what they could

2049
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:48,960
Speaker 3: play Arizona and Arizona State, and Oregon and and and

2050
01:45:49,120 --> 01:45:51,040
Speaker 3: u C l A and USC intead.

2051
01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:54,080
Speaker 2: It's something that resembles the Lakers and Clippers when they

2052
01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:56,879
Speaker 2: have to do the Grammy Tour. Yes, because the facility

2053
01:45:56,880 --> 01:45:57,880
Speaker 2: has been taken over.

2054
01:45:58,080 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 3: Yeah for the two weeks. Yeah, So I don't know.

2055
01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:04,720
Speaker 3: I think we eventually get to that point, not right

2056
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:06,960
Speaker 3: now obviously, but where we have a different structure that

2057
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:09,360
Speaker 3: we even do. You know, five years from.

2058
01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:13,200
Speaker 2: Now, last college subject, we'll go back to well, the

2059
01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:16,040
Speaker 2: fun and exciting world of video gaming six hundred bucks

2060
01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:18,560
Speaker 2: in a game. How many guys are listed in the

2061
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:22,439
Speaker 2: game as QB thirteen or QB seven instead of having

2062
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:22,880
Speaker 2: their name?

2063
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:26,000
Speaker 3: I saw half of the half of the players are

2064
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:29,400
Speaker 3: already signed up. This seems like a really weird thing

2065
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 3: to get angry about, Like this is a brand new

2066
01:46:32,479 --> 01:46:34,840
Speaker 3: game that's well not brand new per se, but a

2067
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:38,599
Speaker 3: new you know, a new game that came out. There's

2068
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:41,400
Speaker 3: no market for how much the players are worth to

2069
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:44,280
Speaker 3: the game yet, because I think we would play if

2070
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:45,120
Speaker 3: it said QB.

2071
01:46:45,040 --> 01:46:47,679
Speaker 2: Seven I over our favorite player.

2072
01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:52,799
Speaker 3: And this is this is a really really good insight,

2073
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:57,799
Speaker 3: in my opinion, onto how the idea of paying players

2074
01:46:57,960 --> 01:47:01,599
Speaker 3: a salary wall playing is going to be extremely tough

2075
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:03,360
Speaker 3: thing to do, which is what people want, right, players

2076
01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:06,760
Speaker 3: should make a salary. Well, okay, here's this is a

2077
01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:09,160
Speaker 3: great example. So they give me everyone six hundred dollars

2078
01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:15,320
Speaker 3: okay to be in this game. Obviously the quarterback deserves

2079
01:47:15,400 --> 01:47:18,760
Speaker 3: more money, most likely than the backup right guard, but

2080
01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:22,000
Speaker 3: we want it to be fair and equals everyone get

2081
01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:23,800
Speaker 3: can't six hundred bucks that's the way it works out,

2082
01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:27,240
Speaker 3: because there's one hundred guys on a team. This is

2083
01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:30,000
Speaker 3: you want people want fair, Well, this is this is fair,

2084
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:32,040
Speaker 3: and so they get a free copy of the game

2085
01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:34,960
Speaker 3: and they get sien hundred bucks. That to me, that's

2086
01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:39,000
Speaker 3: perfectly fine for the situation because there's no market for

2087
01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:40,880
Speaker 3: this yet, we don't know what it is, and you

2088
01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:42,680
Speaker 3: want to be fair everyone the same amount of money,

2089
01:47:42,680 --> 01:47:45,160
Speaker 3: because you wouldn't give ten thousand the quarterback, which I would.

2090
01:47:45,560 --> 01:47:47,840
Speaker 3: I guess they would deserve that and give the backup

2091
01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:51,080
Speaker 3: one hundred dollars. You're not doing that, but that realistically

2092
01:47:51,160 --> 01:47:53,439
Speaker 3: is that what they're worth is and they'll scale right,

2093
01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:55,960
Speaker 3: So I think this is the right way to do it.

2094
01:47:56,040 --> 01:47:58,080
Speaker 3: I have no problem with it. People need to just

2095
01:47:58,120 --> 01:47:59,600
Speaker 3: get over themselves that are angry about this.

2096
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:03,200
Speaker 2: Negotiate cover rights if you want to get paid beyond it.

2097
01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:05,240
Speaker 2: I think this is really what it comes to.

2098
01:48:05,439 --> 01:48:08,519
Speaker 3: Even then, I mean they might do a JJ McCarthy

2099
01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:11,080
Speaker 3: or like Michael Pennock. Someone's not even in the game,

2100
01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:12,439
Speaker 3: so they don't have to worry about that. Just pay

2101
01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:14,680
Speaker 3: them a one time fee and be done with it.

2102
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:19,320
Speaker 3: So I'm glad it's back. I'm sure I'll play and

2103
01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:20,960
Speaker 3: my my loads of free time I have.

2104
01:48:21,120 --> 01:48:23,240
Speaker 2: I gotta say it. With the schedule you laid out before.

2105
01:48:23,320 --> 01:48:26,520
Speaker 2: I'm sure. Can you do that while you're sleeping.

2106
01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:28,920
Speaker 3: Plenty of time? Yeah, I'm sure. I'll tell my wife. Hey,

2107
01:48:29,160 --> 01:48:31,280
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm actually gonnake. I'm not gonna take the

2108
01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:33,320
Speaker 3: kids to their activity's damn playing to LA football.

2109
01:48:34,720 --> 01:48:37,760
Speaker 2: So in season mode and we're recruiting, I'm gonna lose

2110
01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:39,120
Speaker 2: my running back to the portal.

2111
01:48:39,320 --> 01:48:41,400
Speaker 3: I think it's awesome how many people are excited about

2112
01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:45,000
Speaker 3: this though. It's it's an obviously very passionate community that

2113
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:48,400
Speaker 3: really embraces you know this, uh, you know the the

2114
01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:50,960
Speaker 3: game and that. To me, it has been fun to watch.

2115
01:48:52,160 --> 01:48:54,320
Speaker 2: I actually appeared in a game once. They did the

2116
01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:58,240
Speaker 2: crowd footage from a Northwestern Stanford game, So if you

2117
01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:00,479
Speaker 2: had a big play, it was me and my jackass

2118
01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:01,519
Speaker 2: buddy's cheering.

2119
01:49:01,360 --> 01:49:03,080
Speaker 3: The battle of a brainy ax.

2120
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:07,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, good time, going all the way back to

2121
01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:09,080
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety.

2122
01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:15,640
Speaker 3: Four Northwestern and Stanford. Who why do you hit on

2123
01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:20,360
Speaker 3: a random note about Northwestern? Yeah, it's kind of wild

2124
01:49:20,439 --> 01:49:23,320
Speaker 3: to me. How I mean, I know the media culture.

2125
01:49:23,320 --> 01:49:26,120
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised by this that you know, we gave

2126
01:49:26,160 --> 01:49:28,760
Speaker 3: a lot of praise to Dion as was rightfully. You know,

2127
01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:32,040
Speaker 3: he resurrected a program. He did obviously more to market

2128
01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:34,439
Speaker 3: that program than any one has ever done in any program,

2129
01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:38,760
Speaker 3: possibly in a single season. But what Braun did at Northwestern.

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01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:40,280
Speaker 2: Was incredible this year, absolutely incredible.

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01:49:40,479 --> 01:49:43,680
Speaker 3: They were one and eleven the year before, and mind you,

2132
01:49:43,720 --> 01:49:46,120
Speaker 3: they had not won on American soil like a thousand days.

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01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:49,720
Speaker 3: They want that one thing in Ireland. He took him

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01:49:49,720 --> 01:49:52,360
Speaker 3: to a bowl gate at Northwestern. You're not getting dear

2135
01:49:52,439 --> 01:49:55,720
Speaker 3: Sanders at Northwestern. You're not getting Travis Hunter at Northwestern.

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01:49:57,280 --> 01:49:59,599
Speaker 3: He did an incredible job there last seas. I feel

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01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:01,560
Speaker 3: like he has not gone the credit deserves for what

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01:50:01,640 --> 01:50:01,840
Speaker 3: he did.

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01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:04,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a pretty crazy situation because you know,

2140
01:50:04,600 --> 01:50:08,000
Speaker 2: he was around the team not very long before Fitzgerald

2141
01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:12,760
Speaker 2: got dismissed, and there are questions, are you know, are

2142
01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:14,120
Speaker 2: they going to be able to field the team if

2143
01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:15,880
Speaker 2: a bunch of these guys can go into the portal

2144
01:50:15,960 --> 01:50:19,240
Speaker 2: and get out right and and like the administration I

2145
01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:22,600
Speaker 2: think did a horrible job in all this process and

2146
01:50:22,720 --> 01:50:26,080
Speaker 2: then showed up conveniently to take a victory lap. After

2147
01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:29,880
Speaker 2: the year bron had like they disappeared, went radio silent

2148
01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 2: for months, and look, Fitzgerald was a guy that did,

2149
01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:35,719
Speaker 2: you know, fiefdom building, and there were plenty of folks

2150
01:50:35,760 --> 01:50:39,200
Speaker 2: that didn't like him, and the results on the field

2151
01:50:39,280 --> 01:50:41,600
Speaker 2: were bad for a couple of years. So you know,

2152
01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:44,680
Speaker 2: add it all up, and it became time, you know,

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01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:48,240
Speaker 2: maybe a little quicker decision than it would have been

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01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:50,280
Speaker 2: if you'd been nine and three the year before.

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01:50:50,479 --> 01:50:52,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we talked a lot. We talked earlier

2156
01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:55,720
Speaker 3: about sort of you know, NFL general managers kind of

2157
01:50:56,120 --> 01:50:59,479
Speaker 3: bringing in their own quarterbacks. I wonder at Northwestern if

2158
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:02,400
Speaker 3: the president there is new it was new from Oregan's

2159
01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:04,439
Speaker 3: and I wonder if that played a role in just

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01:51:04,520 --> 01:51:09,760
Speaker 3: sort of not you know, maybe not giving Fitzgerald any

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01:51:09,840 --> 01:51:11,280
Speaker 3: sort of leeway. It was like, I just I don't

2162
01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:12,880
Speaker 3: know this guy at all. I'm just moving on.

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01:51:13,280 --> 01:51:16,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember I was in Chicago, my daughter was

2164
01:51:16,439 --> 01:51:18,439
Speaker 2: at the end of a soccer tournament. We spent the

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01:51:18,520 --> 01:51:22,240
Speaker 2: day in Chicago when that news broke. As we were

2166
01:51:22,280 --> 01:51:26,800
Speaker 2: sitting in the aforementioned pizza place, Go Figure, and it

2167
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:29,720
Speaker 2: came up on the television and my phone started blowing up.

2168
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:30,880
Speaker 2: It's like, Hey, do you want to come on the

2169
01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:35,160
Speaker 2: show later? Like sure, let's let me eat my pizza,

2170
01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:36,760
Speaker 2: figure out what the hell's going on, and then we

2171
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:37,400
Speaker 2: can go from there.

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01:51:37,640 --> 01:51:37,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:41,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, crazy times, Jeff the Wild West as it

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01:51:41,360 --> 01:51:45,160
Speaker 2: were at Jeff Schwartz where you find him on Twitter,

2175
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:47,600
Speaker 2: find me over at Swollen Dome. And it's appropriate, I

2176
01:51:47,680 --> 01:51:51,639
Speaker 2: said the Wild West, because well, we'll extend into Pirates

2177
01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:54,840
Speaker 2: in a minute. Oh, you'll understand what this means after

2178
01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:57,400
Speaker 2: we talk to our guy Isaac Lowing from He's got

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01:51:57,439 --> 01:51:58,280
Speaker 2: what's stranding? What's up?

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01:51:58,320 --> 01:52:01,880
Speaker 9: I love look forward to that about the Pirates. We

2181
01:52:02,240 --> 01:52:04,960
Speaker 9: start with another National League team, however, the Cubs is

2182
01:52:05,000 --> 01:52:08,760
Speaker 9: in Major League Baseball. Multiple outlets reporting overnight that the

2183
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:11,800
Speaker 9: Cubs are re signing Cody Bellinger to a three year,

2184
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:15,120
Speaker 9: eighty million dollar contract Kevin Up. At the top of

2185
01:52:15,160 --> 01:52:18,200
Speaker 9: the hour. In the NBA, the Philadelphia seventy six ers

2186
01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:21,759
Speaker 9: host the Milwaukee Bucks on Saturday night. The Boston Celtics

2187
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:24,000
Speaker 9: defeat of the New York Knicks at Madison Square Garden

2188
01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:27,160
Speaker 9: one sixteen to oneh two. The Celtics on an eight

2189
01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:29,400
Speaker 9: game winning streak and won ten of eleven on the

2190
01:52:29,479 --> 01:52:32,120
Speaker 9: best record in the league at forty five and twelve.

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01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:35,720
Speaker 9: Also Saturday, night, the Minnesota Timberwolves best in Brooklyn one

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Speaker 9: o one to eighty six to take over sole possession

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01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:40,840
Speaker 9: of first place in the Western Conference with a record

2194
01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:44,240
Speaker 9: of forty and seventeen and in college basketball. On Saturday,

2195
01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:47,840
Speaker 9: at the end of wake Forest victory over Ah Rank

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01:52:47,960 --> 01:52:52,800
Speaker 9: Duke Duke Stars, center Kyle Philipowski injured his knee when

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01:52:52,880 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 9: one of the fans storming the court collided with him.

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01:52:56,280 --> 01:53:00,920
Speaker 9: Here was Philipowski afterwards with w FM Why Television.

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Speaker 10: I felt a bunch of hits on my body. I

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01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:06,920
Speaker 10: you know, I just this one was the worst of them.

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01:53:07,240 --> 01:53:10,640
Speaker 10: It's just really ridiculous. I've already heard that there's some

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01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:14,000
Speaker 10: videos of you know, game punch in the back, and

2203
01:53:15,120 --> 01:53:18,360
Speaker 10: so I absolutely feel like it was personal, you know,

2204
01:53:18,640 --> 01:53:21,320
Speaker 10: intentional for sure. You know, like I said, there's there's

2205
01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:24,439
Speaker 10: no reason where they see a big guy like me

2206
01:53:24,600 --> 01:53:26,439
Speaker 10: trying to work my way up before and they can't

2207
01:53:26,520 --> 01:53:27,160
Speaker 10: just work around me.

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01:53:27,280 --> 01:53:28,600
Speaker 3: You know, there's no excuse for that.

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Speaker 2: Mike and Jeff all yours, thanks so much, Ilo at

2210
01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:35,719
Speaker 2: Isaac Lowencrown. You know what, it's funny you talk about

2211
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:38,760
Speaker 2: taking and diverting your plans and taking a different route.

2212
01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:42,000
Speaker 2: That's what one organization had to do is they set

2213
01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:44,840
Speaker 2: up for one of their biggest events of the calendar year.

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Speaker 3: What is it?

2215
01:53:45,439 --> 01:53:47,880
Speaker 2: What am I talking about? We go down Under next.

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Speaker 2: He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Buy garbon of. This is Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Welcome back in It's Fox Sports Radios, Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Sunday, My Carbon alongside Jeff Schwartz. Hey, did you know?

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Speaker 2: apply at Jeff Schwartz where you find him on Twitter.

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01:54:19,160 --> 01:54:22,599
Speaker 2: Find me over at Swollen Dome, Jeff. Two big events

2227
01:54:22,960 --> 01:54:28,080
Speaker 2: in Australia this week. One the No Bull Tour all

2228
01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:32,040
Speaker 2: those ex Chicago Bulls that it was reported and theorized

2229
01:54:32,040 --> 01:54:34,280
Speaker 2: they were just gonna go on a burn it all

2230
01:54:34,440 --> 01:54:38,320
Speaker 2: down tour following the last dance. Instead, it ended up

2231
01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:41,040
Speaker 2: just being a lot of chuckles and story time over

2232
01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:45,400
Speaker 2: their time in Chicago. People very upset about that all

2233
01:54:45,480 --> 01:54:48,440
Speaker 2: week long, a lot of bluster for nothing.

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01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:50,320
Speaker 3: For one now repeat that.

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01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:53,959
Speaker 2: Well, was the No Bull Tour as it was announced

2236
01:54:54,000 --> 01:54:56,560
Speaker 2: earlier this week, it was gonna be Horace Grant, Oh yeah,

2237
01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:59,560
Speaker 2: I saw that, Yes, and Scottie Pippen and then they

2238
01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:02,760
Speaker 2: couldn't you couldn't record the event, but there was someone.

2239
01:55:02,640 --> 01:55:05,160
Speaker 3: For all as one of those were like, you have

2240
01:55:05,240 --> 01:55:07,120
Speaker 3: to put your phone in the bag before you get there, like.

2241
01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:09,640
Speaker 2: A comedy club that you know, that's become kind of standard.

2242
01:55:10,200 --> 01:55:12,440
Speaker 2: And evidently all they did was tell stories and play

2243
01:55:12,520 --> 01:55:15,320
Speaker 2: grab ass about the days that were and there was

2244
01:55:15,640 --> 01:55:19,880
Speaker 2: really no mention of the last dance or anything controversial whatsoever.

2245
01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:22,640
Speaker 2: It's like, well, that would have driven ticket sales in

2246
01:55:22,680 --> 01:55:24,880
Speaker 2: the US. I think the people in Australia just wanted

2247
01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:27,080
Speaker 2: to come and hang out with Luke Longley.

2248
01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:29,080
Speaker 3: And that whole thing they said, nothing.

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01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:32,360
Speaker 2: Controversial, evidently not so a lot of blow up about nothing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that typical internet, right, that's.

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01:55:36,440 --> 01:55:39,200
Speaker 2: The way it works, a lot of bloviating. I mean

2252
01:55:39,280 --> 01:55:41,280
Speaker 2: I have had a list of questions. I mean I

2253
01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:43,640
Speaker 2: joked about it the other day. Being the Chicago kid

2254
01:55:43,680 --> 01:55:45,800
Speaker 2: that I am, It's like I have thoughts. I used

2255
01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:48,360
Speaker 2: to run into those guys around town. So it's like, hey,

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01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:51,240
Speaker 2: let me ask you this. The other was this was

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01:55:51,320 --> 01:55:54,360
Speaker 2: revealed by Michael Cole of the WWE. They had their

2258
01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:58,600
Speaker 2: big elimination Chamber and Perth at two am Pacific time

2259
01:55:59,320 --> 01:56:02,640
Speaker 2: yesterday more and they took out more than a month

2260
01:56:02,760 --> 01:56:05,800
Speaker 2: to get all of their structure because it's a giant

2261
01:56:05,920 --> 01:56:10,240
Speaker 2: cage with all these different places where you have them

2262
01:56:10,280 --> 01:56:13,280
Speaker 2: around the ring and then they countdown clock for the

2263
01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:15,320
Speaker 2: and then you get it and come into the ring

2264
01:56:15,400 --> 01:56:18,480
Speaker 2: and whatever that. It was actually delayed in the Suez

2265
01:56:18,560 --> 01:56:19,760
Speaker 2: Canal because of pirates.

2266
01:56:20,440 --> 01:56:24,560
Speaker 3: Oh, the Suez Canal has gone famous for the wrong

2267
01:56:24,640 --> 01:56:26,120
Speaker 3: reasons in the last couple of years.

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01:56:26,280 --> 01:56:28,400
Speaker 2: So they had a whole thing where they had to

2269
01:56:28,520 --> 01:56:31,959
Speaker 2: divert this, they had to negotiate, they had to navigate

2270
01:56:32,120 --> 01:56:34,600
Speaker 2: back out of the waterways. There were a number of

2271
01:56:34,680 --> 01:56:37,480
Speaker 2: super fans that they're like, these guys didn't make It's like, yeah,

2272
01:56:37,600 --> 01:56:41,320
Speaker 2: we were detained by pirates as well. So it became

2273
01:56:41,440 --> 01:56:44,400
Speaker 2: a whole thing. Now the event goes off without a hitch.

2274
01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:48,280
Speaker 2: They have fun, all the fun and fun sites, but

2275
01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:51,879
Speaker 2: I guess the structure. It went to Miami, Los Angeles

2276
01:56:51,960 --> 01:56:55,280
Speaker 2: via truck and then was transported to Sydney and then

2277
01:56:55,320 --> 01:56:58,120
Speaker 2: it finally got to Perth by train, but all of

2278
01:56:58,160 --> 01:57:03,200
Speaker 2: their original mapping and first components got held up in

2279
01:57:03,240 --> 01:57:05,560
Speaker 2: the Suez Canal because of actual pirates.

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Speaker 3: Australia has been you know, they got they got, they

2281
01:57:08,320 --> 01:57:10,720
Speaker 3: got t Swift there and Travis Kelsey and it's.

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01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:11,040
Speaker 2: A big week.

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01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:15,600
Speaker 3: It's a big week for Australia. I you know, Taylor

2284
01:57:15,600 --> 01:57:17,560
Speaker 3: Stow's not coming to Charlotte, but I would totally see.

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01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:19,320
Speaker 2: I think I would take my daughter's a hell of

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01:57:19,400 --> 01:57:19,720
Speaker 2: a show.

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01:57:20,840 --> 01:57:22,720
Speaker 3: It seems like a great show. And everyone it's been

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01:57:23,520 --> 01:57:25,600
Speaker 3: I get to find one person who went, who's been

2289
01:57:25,640 --> 01:57:27,040
Speaker 3: to a Tami Swip show, it's been like, yeah, that

2290
01:57:27,120 --> 01:57:28,160
Speaker 3: wasn't worth the money, you.

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01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:30,800
Speaker 2: Know, one of the things. And look if you're lucky enough,

2292
01:57:30,880 --> 01:57:33,440
Speaker 2: And I actually did. In the second batch after they

2293
01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:35,680
Speaker 2: killed some bots, was able to get a couple of

2294
01:57:35,720 --> 01:57:38,480
Speaker 2: face value seats for my daughters for one of the shows.

2295
01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:42,120
Speaker 2: But I'm like, all right, we do this drive along whatever,

2296
01:57:42,400 --> 01:57:44,880
Speaker 2: So I ended up buying a standing room only ticket.

2297
01:57:45,280 --> 01:57:47,360
Speaker 2: Like I talk about it all the time, Jeff. When

2298
01:57:47,360 --> 01:57:51,600
Speaker 2: we talk about live events, theater, concerts and even sporting events.

2299
01:57:51,800 --> 01:57:54,560
Speaker 2: Save a few knuckleheads. Very few places in this world

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01:57:54,600 --> 01:57:56,880
Speaker 2: do we actually have energy going in the same place

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01:57:57,280 --> 01:58:02,680
Speaker 2: outside of a synagogue or congregation, right, I mean, there there,

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01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:05,160
Speaker 2: we know what, you know, what we're there for. Everything

2303
01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:08,360
Speaker 2: else is so divisive and miserable. Even walking my dog

2304
01:58:08,480 --> 01:58:10,480
Speaker 2: down the street, you're fighting with people who are running

2305
01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:14,760
Speaker 2: stop signs and stuff. There, it's all energy, it's all positivity.

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01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:18,000
Speaker 2: You're there for the same reason and singing along and

2307
01:58:18,320 --> 01:58:19,080
Speaker 2: just having a blast.

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01:58:19,720 --> 01:58:22,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like a very fun time, so I

2309
01:58:22,280 --> 01:58:25,720
Speaker 3: would I would absolutely and absolutely go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was one of the fun ones

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01:58:29,000 --> 01:58:30,880
Speaker 2: this last year. All right, So do we have another

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01:58:30,920 --> 01:58:34,240
Speaker 2: swim meet today or no? What do we got?

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01:58:34,560 --> 01:58:34,600
Speaker 4: No?

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01:58:34,840 --> 01:58:36,920
Speaker 3: I think today Sunday we've been have like it. It's

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01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:40,080
Speaker 3: timpally been family day. We have friends of family come over,

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01:58:40,240 --> 01:58:42,200
Speaker 3: but it's always doing football season. So like we might

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01:58:42,600 --> 01:58:44,880
Speaker 3: we talk about going the skating rink today, maybe nice

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01:58:45,600 --> 01:58:49,080
Speaker 3: with the kids. So we'll see. I mean, I'll all

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01:58:49,280 --> 01:58:51,520
Speaker 3: walk downstairs in two minutes and see see what the

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01:58:51,520 --> 01:58:52,040
Speaker 3: schedule with you.

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Speaker 2: Dad as a lead blocker in that you know, it's

2322
01:58:54,600 --> 01:58:56,480
Speaker 2: a clear space for the kids behind you in your

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01:58:56,520 --> 01:58:59,680
Speaker 2: week for skating for skating for skating.

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01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:01,480
Speaker 3: You know, I just sit there and I'll go watch

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01:59:01,480 --> 01:59:05,240
Speaker 3: college basketball on the TV. I'm just there. I'm just

2326
01:59:05,320 --> 01:59:08,400
Speaker 3: there to drive, buddy, I feel you. So we can

2327
01:59:08,480 --> 01:59:09,920
Speaker 3: have so some people that are with us can have

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01:59:09,960 --> 01:59:11,520
Speaker 3: adult beverages. I don't even know if they have them

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01:59:11,560 --> 01:59:13,840
Speaker 3: at the skating rink though, so maybe not. I do

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01:59:13,880 --> 01:59:18,000
Speaker 3: a little, but you know, I know, just just go

2331
01:59:18,160 --> 01:59:22,040
Speaker 3: watch the kids have fun. I wear size eighteen shoe,

2332
01:59:22,160 --> 01:59:24,880
Speaker 3: so there's not this is not skates. Yeah, I'm just

2333
01:59:24,960 --> 01:59:25,600
Speaker 3: not going to skate.

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01:59:25,760 --> 01:59:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah that's wow, that's eighteen. That's impressive.

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01:59:30,320 --> 01:59:31,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just not going to do it.

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01:59:31,520 --> 01:59:33,440
Speaker 2: So, hey, what do you tick?

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01:59:33,880 --> 01:59:34,000
Speaker 5: Night?

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01:59:34,080 --> 01:59:36,600
Speaker 2: The other day in the NBA really quick.

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01:59:37,600 --> 01:59:41,240
Speaker 3: Fight night different when jam the one with Draymond and

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01:59:42,120 --> 01:59:44,240
Speaker 3: I like the reaction of Steve Kerr and who.

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Speaker 2: Was the coach, Clifford just looked at what the blank?

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Speaker 3: They both did what the like? At the exact same time,

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Speaker 3: someone tweeted out that this was this is this must

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Speaker 3: be what having like kids is likely low For thirty seconds,

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Speaker 3: it's like, yep, exactly.

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Speaker 2: What it's like when there's that eerie and then leave

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Speaker 2: the scream.

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Speaker 3: Now I have the puppy Man. Whenever he's quiet, I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 3: boy boy, he's doing something bad.

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Speaker 2: Well, go find some peace. Thanks for hanging at Jeff

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Speaker 2: Schwartz where you find that was fun? Find me over

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Speaker 2: at Swollen Home. We got Steve Hartman rich Orberger coming

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