1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to money Making Conversations. It's the show that she 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: advice on many occasions in incasion didn't notice, I'm not broke. 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: You know, he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: decision make because it's what he likes to do, It's 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: what he likes to ship. Now it's time to hear 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: from my man, Rashan McDonald money making conversations. Here we come. Ah, Yes, 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: money making conversation. The brand that grows, the brand that tails. 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: All this is money make. You know, it's a difference 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: in my voice. There's a difference in my voice. There's 12 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: a proud, a proud flavor, a robust version of my 13 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: voice because I have the power twins on my show today. 14 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: That means you have to give extra You just can't 15 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: talk normal. You have to talk about because they're here 16 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: to talk about things that I talk about on a 17 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: daily basis on this show that I promote on a 18 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: daily basis. Success, believing in yourself, having relationships, look at 19 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: yourself in that mirror and say you can do it. 20 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: Not just say it, but believe in it. Walk through 21 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: the people who say you can't do it. Surround yourself 22 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: with relationships, respect your family. That's what they do. The 23 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: Power Twins. Now, one was born five minutes apart from 24 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: the other, but they are still twins because that's what 25 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: twins do. That's what they Dell One will always tell 26 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: the other I am the oldest because that's what twins do. 27 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: As I said earlier, my next guests are Twins. Hustlers, Media, mazings, Balls, Ladies, 28 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: and as All Magazine called them, Power Twins. One is 29 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, innovative marketer, and revenue producing executive who has 30 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: spent the last two decades at the intersection of marketing, branding, tech, media, 31 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: and entertainment. Her sister is a two time Emmy Award 32 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: winning television producer as am I a two time Emmy 33 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: Award winning television US. But what I am not is 34 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: the VP of Branded Entertainment and Media Innovation at CBS 35 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: Television Network. That is her. They're on the show to 36 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: day to talk about their new book, which I've read 37 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: so fast. The very first time I went back and 38 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: read it twice. It's called Double Down Media, Maven's Bostil 39 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: Ladies Power Twins. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations Trisha 40 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: and Antoinette Clark with in Need. Welcome Ladies, hid We 41 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: love your energy already. Come on. You gotta make it happen. 42 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: You got to make it happen. The beauty of this 43 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: book is that, first of all, I have a twenty 44 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: two year daughter. She's in college. That I can't say 45 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: that because you know what, she's in college. My wife 46 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: will kill me. What did you say that? Now? Neither 47 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: gonna find what your daughter is going to go and 48 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: they bother her. But but this book I gotta lettle 49 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: read because it's it felt so um so because you 50 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: because I'm hearing about two success stories in one book 51 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: and how differently they were achieved and they will achieve 52 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: because of the I like to say that the ladies 53 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: in your life were mentors, and not only from the 54 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: standpoint if they were relatives, but they were mentoring you 55 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: and sometimes they didn't always say to you what you 56 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: wanted to hear. Correct, Yeah, absolutely, um And to your point, 57 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: you know, for your saying that you want your daughter 58 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: to read this book, that's why we wrote this book. 59 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: It was to democratize success for people that look like us. 60 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: And for so long we've been looked at as anomalies 61 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: as we continue to kind of rise up in our career, 62 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: and we were like, wait a minute, we should be 63 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: the norm. People of color should be the norm. It 64 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: shouldn't be well, how did they do it? It should 65 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: be like, how can we all do it? And we 66 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: think double down. At least that's the groundwork for us 67 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: to be able to scale kind of the mentorship that 68 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: we have been giving to two um young girls, young 69 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: men for the past few years. And and yes we 70 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: didn't always hear amazing things from from our family. We 71 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: called them our tribe, kind of the matriarchy, but they 72 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: definitely instilled a level of passion and determination to succeed. 73 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: We think a lot of that came from their immigrant mentality. 74 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: They came here, you know, from they came to the 75 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: States from Jamaica, and they wanted to achieve the American dream. 76 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: And their version of the American dream was exactly what 77 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: the status quo tells us, and that you have to 78 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: be a doctor, a lawyer, or an engineer to kind 79 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: of make it. So that's the that's the vision and 80 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: the directive they gave to us. And we said, hold 81 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: on a minute, we don't want to be those things, 82 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: but we think we can still achieve a love a 83 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: love love success but doing it our way. And right 84 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: after college, we tricked them. We told them that we 85 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: would go to grad school after working for two years. 86 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: All they have to do is give us two years 87 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: to work, get to get some experience, then we would 88 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: go to grad school. So Anthon and I I took 89 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: it upon ourselves that within those two years, we have 90 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: to figure out a game plan of what success could 91 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: look like and what our north star is and what 92 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: the plan should be to help get us to, you know, 93 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: the levels that we wanted to achieve. And we were 94 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: able to at least lay the road map out within 95 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: those two years, so that Makeriarchy kind of gave us 96 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: some room to breathe and um, do it our way. Wonderful. Now, 97 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: the book we're talking about is called Double Down, and 98 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: it's reading. The book is divided into two parts. Part one, 99 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: you're focusing on how to double down on yourself, which 100 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: is very important. I like this because they're talking about 101 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: getting yourself right before we get to part two, You 102 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: really have to look in yourself because a lot of 103 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: people always dream I want to do this, uh, and 104 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: then they make up situations which stopped them from wanting 105 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: to do this that they keep talking about every time. 106 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: And let's talk about focusing on the loan game, always 107 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: keeping your eyes on the horizon or the prize while 108 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: moving forward with purpose and a and of action. That's 109 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: what I talked about all of all the time on 110 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: this show. What is your plan? You got a dream, 111 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: you set a goal, what is the plan? And then 112 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: part two helps you look outside of yourself that is 113 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: where you your crew looks like. It really interesting because 114 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: because uh, I talked about this when I was managing 115 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: Steve Harvey, and then when I stopped managing, I was 116 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: just by myself, and so I was just trying to 117 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: do a lot of things by myself. And then I 118 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: had to take I have to take a step back, 119 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: and I realized I had a crew. When I was 120 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: managing Steve Harvey. I had people around me that I 121 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: could can you help me with this? And they wanted 122 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: to help me with And I like what you talked about. 123 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: You have to have ride or die people in your 124 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: crew that's what I forgot and that's what you're talking 125 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: about in the book. Correct, Oh yeah, like, and we 126 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: break it down you have to it has to come 127 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: from within and you have to build your tribe from 128 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: the inside out. What I love about your book is 129 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: that you preach confidence. You preach the fact that don't 130 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: don't don't assume that you shouldn't be there, that you 131 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: shouldn't have the you have the right to say that 132 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: this is mine, go forward. And so I say that 133 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: because when I think back over my life, I think 134 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: about all the success I had, especially when I kids 135 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: went into college. Is in college allowed me to grow 136 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: as a human being. That's why I always tell everybody 137 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: go to college. Just go to college and allow college 138 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: to to allow you to grow. Because when you're in 139 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: high school, high school just dictates to you go to class, 140 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: go to class, you go. You know if you if 141 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: you do good or bad, guess what you can get 142 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: through high school college. You do bad, I think got 143 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: something for you, go home. Okay. So that means that 144 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: you have to develop a competitiveness while you in college. 145 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: And that's what that's why college is such a beautiful thing. 146 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: When I read about in your book, because that's when 147 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: the competitive wheels of life really started for you too, 148 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: and that's what plays out in this book. Correct. Yeah, 149 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: And I think it started in college. That's I think 150 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: what we were able to expand it even more opportunities, right, 151 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: But I think it started when we were in high 152 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: school when we decided to sell guest slectshirts, Like there 153 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: was a store in Manhattan that had them price, so 154 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: we pulled all of our money together and bought about 155 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: thirty something sleat shirts. We started rocking them any chance 156 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: we could at school and then um kids would be 157 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: our clocksments were like where'd you get those? And then 158 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: we would have them at our backpacks and sell it 159 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: to them. So I think it's always been a part 160 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: of our d n A. And then we just flex 161 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: those muscles in different ways based on the white space 162 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: that we're able to find. Right. And that's important to 163 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: say that. And I stand corrected, because college allowed you 164 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: to expand on your entrepreneurship that you created high school, 165 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: because in high school I was setting blow pops. In 166 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: high school, I was I was selling blowpops. Go downstore, 167 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: get blow pops, and I go to school, Hey, blow 168 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: pops ain't just walking around the hallway region had them, okay, 169 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: And then I was a photographer in school, so I 170 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: would take I would take a couple of photos, a 171 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: couple of photos, five hours take photos. You know, I 172 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: had equipment access, had my little photo room. By going 173 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: in black and white, I do that. So I started 174 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: that in high school. And so when they got to college, 175 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: you know, it was like a bigger arena for me 176 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: to just expand on. I can see I can get 177 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: five dollars from people, I can get ten dollars from people. 178 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: I started being able to convince people to go a 179 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: group of people to go from this place to this 180 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: place that right there. See, I wish I had a 181 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: double down with me. She she had. She she had 182 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: a double down with her a twin. See if I 183 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: had Rushan McDonald had a twin, Oh boy, because she 184 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: can because whenever it's a rap, it's because see whenever 185 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: she questioned herself, the other twins or the girl, let's 186 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: go forward, really, yes, let's go, let's throw this party, 187 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: let's go to the school. You can do this. So 188 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: whenever a little doubt drops in, and that's something to 189 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: just tell you something is that everybody needs to get 190 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: them a twin, Okay, a person who's a ride or 191 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: that a person who you can throw back information to 192 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: him and they give it back to you as real 193 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: as possible. That's what I took away from this book 194 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: is that you to be successful, you got to have 195 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: a partner in some degree, whether there's a love interest, 196 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: whether it's a best friend, somebody that you can roll with. 197 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: They were born together, five minutes depart and they become 198 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: business partner's best friend. That was my takeaway friend book. 199 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: That I missed that in this book when I was reading, 200 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: because that's what I took away. I need to give 201 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: me a Roshan McDonald twin. That's yeah, and that's a 202 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: big part of it. It's showing how you can use 203 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: take lessons of what we've been able to develop because 204 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: we're twins, and how you can apply that in your 205 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: friendships with colleagues and with the rest of your tribes. 206 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: The tribes cool. So the positions that you guys achieved, now, 207 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: what's what's the future. You write a book, you know 208 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: you're receiving compliments about your skill, about your skills. It's 209 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: not about your looks, it's about your skills. I think 210 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: that's very important. I think it's very that's what you 211 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: two wanted to achieve. You when people recognize you for 212 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,599 Speaker 1: talents and you want to share your talents to the 213 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: young ladies, to let them know that they can be great, 214 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: because so many times it is not men but thrown 215 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: to women how they look and how they can be 216 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: as successful based on their looks. And I see that 217 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: coming clear through the book. Through the pages of this 218 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: book as well, it's about what you can do and 219 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: don't let anybody's status quo is another one of those things. 220 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: Don't let people deny your success because they said you 221 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: got there based on your looks. That brings in these 222 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: pages as well. Correctly, Oh, it's about what you bring 223 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: to the table because and we're all about achievement versus activity. Right, 224 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: So people can spend their wheels and and try to 225 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: you know, have these small winds and get you know, 226 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: blocked down by failures. But we're always going to have 227 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: our eye on the long game because we know that 228 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 1: we want to make an impact and you want to 229 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: want to be libary not temporary. Okay, both say that's 230 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: the first time they talked to another, now can right 231 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: you see I was rolling. I was rolling with everybody 232 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: going who tuning this tuck and then they're gonna talk together. 233 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: The magic is it's such a beautiful thing. I would 234 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: be before we get off, I want to tell everybody 235 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: how they can get the book or by the book, 236 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 1: make sure we get that out there. Plus I want 237 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: banners so I can put it on my social media. 238 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 1: So I on my side because like I said, I'm 239 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: recommending this book, I'm gonna show you how I'm gonna recommend. 240 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it in my on my verified social 241 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 1: media handles. Okay, but tell everybody how they can get 242 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: the book. Thank you. So the book drops yes September 243 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: tent and it's available everywhere books are sold, Amazon, Barnes, 244 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: and Noble, you name it. And you couldn't even go 245 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: to your local bookstore. And if we're not on the shelf, 246 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: you should ask them why we're not on the shelf. 247 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: So definitely surch for our book, but it should be everywhere. 248 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: And if you just want to learn a little bit 249 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: more about us, you can check out our website double 250 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: down book dot com um that has our social handles 251 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: and then also links to Bears retailers where you can 252 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: get it. My friends. This has been wonderful. This has 253 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: been I gotta go back into that voice. This has 254 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: been amazing. I've had the Clark's Sisters. I've had the 255 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: Pointer Sisters. 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Hi, 263 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: this is Rushan McDonald, the host of Money Making Conversations. 264 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: You say to yourself, who calls Rushan shell, please walk 265 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: on the Money Making Conversations. La La Anthony. We met 266 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: you know used always Roch can you give you always 267 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: talk to you about everything, everything and looking at you 268 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: and Steve Harvey. You know that motivated me too because 269 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: I would see all the amazing things guys are doing. 270 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: It not just being on the radio at that time, 271 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: and even now, you know people want to put people 272 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: in boxes. Please Welcome to Money Making Conversations. The incredible 273 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: Nick Cannon truly one of them, our mentors and one 274 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: of the people that showed me that you can be multifascinating. 275 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: You know for a fact now that you're about to 276 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: capture and the audience that's going to have a spending 277 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: power for at least another twenty years, three years. Like 278 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: my happiness, money doesn't make you happy. To happy makes 279 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: your money. Money Making Conversations continues online at www dot 280 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: money Making Conversations dot com. Welcome to Money Making Conversation. 281 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rashwan McDonald. Here's the truth about reaching 282 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: your goals. Success is not easy. If it were, then 283 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: everybody will be wealthy and partying in Las Vegas. Money 284 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: Making Conversation about setting goals and reaching your dreams. If 285 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: you don't know something, then you will have to educate yourself. 286 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: Become the smartest person in your business or circle, because 287 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: if you are not all you are the smartest person 288 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: in your circle, there is not long term success. That's 289 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: why corned the phrase stan ahead of the ignorance. Ignorance 290 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: is a state of being uninformed. You must always be 291 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: ready to plan, adjust your goals, and never let change 292 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: sneak upon you. When you make these things, then you 293 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: will be successful by standing ahead of the ignorance. And 294 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: another point, dream killers. They're away from dream killers, and 295 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: they sayers, and they can come in different forms. And 296 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: a dream killer and they say it can be a parent, 297 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: a brother or sister, your best friend, a relative, a stranger, 298 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: a trusted church member, a community leader, a teacher, a neighbor, husband, wife, partner, girlfriend, 299 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: boar friend, your children. And guess what you might look 300 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: in the mirror, and you might be the dream killer. 301 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: But when we listen to money making conversation, that's what 302 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: I try to stop. That's my goal to stop from 303 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: you being the worst enemy for yourself. That's what money 304 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: making conversations all about. My next guest, I'm just tell 305 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: you all this his resume five times, and I'm tired 306 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: because this brother does a lot. My next guest as 307 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: an NBA superstar, entrepreneur, philanthropists, inspirational motivator, notable brand ambassador 308 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: for State Farm. In two thousand five, Chris and his 309 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: family established the CP three Foundation of philanthropic partnership with 310 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: the Winston Salem Foundation in honor of his late grandfather, 311 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: the foundation's effort are truly a family affair, and with 312 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: his tenth anniversary, the foundation officially changed its name to 313 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: the Chris Paul Family Foundation to include the involvement of 314 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: Chris's wife, parents, brother, sister in law, and extended family members. 315 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: He is a man that I am a fan of 316 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: because what he stands in life, because he stands up 317 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: for himself and the people around him and his community. 318 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: Please welcome to money making conversations, Chris Paul. What's going on, Chris, 319 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: and tell you some I originally from Houston, Texas, Okay, 320 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: and so yes, sir, I'm based in Atlanta, but for Houston, 321 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: Texas and the Theena impressed me. I was always impressed 322 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: with you before we got traded in Houston. That's gonna 323 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: be real about this, Okay. If you if your guy 324 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: who knows sports and understand sports and know your history 325 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: as a as a man, as an individual, as a leader, 326 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: you impressed. But as soon as you got to Houston, 327 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: you got involved in the community, explained, explain that drive 328 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: as soon as so so as soon as it gets there, 329 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna TV. He's passing that food. What drives that 330 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: direction in your life? So strongly. I think for me, 331 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,239 Speaker 1: it's always in my support system and my family. You know, 332 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: growing up in North Carolina, you know, everything was always 333 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: about like helping others and understanding that you don't get 334 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: anywhere on your own. And the day I got traded, 335 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: you know, to to Houston, I became of h Houstonia 336 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: with the hurt, with the hurricane happening. Um that that 337 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: was tough, you know to see you know now part 338 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: of my extended family and during what they were having 339 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: to go through, I wanted to do as much as 340 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,479 Speaker 1: I could, do my part and help as much as possible. 341 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: And is not even the fact that I, you know, 342 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: got traded to Houston, just just because you know, we 343 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: all are people. You know, it's a big family, so 344 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: you know, and that's really important because you know, it's 345 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: like because I know that, like you said, you're in 346 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,479 Speaker 1: us to that, but you're still helping people in other areas. 347 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: That's what we're on the call today and talk about 348 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: how you just feel a need to shape a better 349 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: life for people you don't know, and that's an important 350 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: value system for you. Correct. Yeah, I think for me, uh, 351 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: I've always looked at basketball as you know, a tool, 352 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: like I love the game more than anybody. But I 353 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: always say, you know, basketball is what I do, It's 354 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: not who I am. You know, if I remember, uh 355 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: if i'm if I remember, you know, when I leave 356 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: this earth as just this amazing basketball player, then I 357 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, my life was a failure. You know, 358 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: there's so many people who have helped me get to 359 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: where I am today that you know, it's it's paying 360 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: it forward and just trying to teach and your case, 361 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: especially the youth. Uh not only my own kids especially them, 362 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: but everyone, just trying to teach them. Because I'm study 363 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: four and I'm still learning. I tell people that that's, 364 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: you know, someone in the same page. I tell people 365 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: I wake up ignorant every morning. That way, I'm willing 366 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: to accept information that's being delivered to me because you 367 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: wake up think you know it all. Then guess what 368 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: You're gonna miss some valuable information to a valuable advice. 369 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: And that's also a humble side of you that that 370 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: I feel you know that that that that rings out 371 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: for you because naturally as an athlete, and you're such 372 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: a gifted athlete, that's a necessary feeling that you know 373 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: you are in some ways immortal. You know, you're invincible 374 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: because that craft, you're so good at it. But in 375 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: the business world, when you go into the business world 376 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: and the charitable world, it's filled with so many flaws 377 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: because you know, you get on the court, you see 378 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: the length of basketball store, you know the rams ten feet, 379 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: you know where the free throw line is gonna be 380 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: this far. But when you get in the business world, 381 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: those dynamics disappear. That's when it also gets really interesting 382 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: and challenging. Correct, Yeah, it gets very interesting because what 383 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: happens also is a lot of times people see you 384 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: on television or they see you on that court and 385 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: they think that's all you know. You know, they think 386 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: all you know is how to put the ball in 387 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: the basket right, and um, that's that's not the case. 388 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: Not only myself, it's a lot of intelligent athletes out there, 389 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: and I think that's why, you know, we have to 390 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: continue to learn. And it's funny, you know, sometimes when 391 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: you do get in the business world and people shake 392 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: your hand, they make a comment and they're like, oh, 393 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: you know about this, Like, yeah, we we only played 394 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: the games from seven. That's so true. It's really interesting 395 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: because I and I totally agree with you that because 396 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: when I was managing Steve Harvey and whenever we was 397 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: doing deals, you know, it was so much energy put 398 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: in his direction because he was the start Steve Harber, 399 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: I was. I was just doing a deal. And and 400 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: and I will tell you, because of mine who I 401 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: was in African American, a lot of a lot of 402 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: shade was throwing my way like I didn't know what 403 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: I was doing, Like I was his running buddy, like 404 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: I was his boy. And I would always tell him, 405 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: You're gonna talk to me later. I would just tell him, 406 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna talk to me later. And because because people 407 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: will disrespect you by, you know, stereotyping you. And that's 408 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: what you're saying. As an athlete, I was being stereotyped 409 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: because guess what. And Lebron runs through that same problem 410 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: with his boys. Could they call him crew? They disrespect 411 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: the fact that you can be of a certain color, 412 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: a certain a certain or certain gender and feel that 413 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: you can't compete mentally in this corporate game, this game 414 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: of closing deals. And that's what you're playing in every day. 415 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: Because I look at all these brands and partnerships that 416 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: you're tied to. It's amazing that you're so well rounded, Chris, 417 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: try to at least and you know, over the years, 418 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: I've had some unbelievable mentors who I paid attention to 419 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: and like and like you just said, there, Um, it's 420 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: never never having too much information. Yes, you know, I 421 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: always want to learn, um, And that's what it is. 422 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: I mean I talk about a lot of times as 423 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: a professional athlete. Uh, I got drafted into the NBA 424 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: when I was nineteen, about twenty years old. And you're young. 425 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: You don't know about financial literacy. You don't know about 426 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: a lot and so if you if you don't try 427 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: to seek some of that knowledge, you know, your career 428 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: can go by. And now you're just sitting there like 429 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: what do I do? Now? See we're just talking about you, 430 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: and they're just talking about Rashan McCown. But to accomplish 431 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: the task that you're you have a team. Let's talk 432 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: about the team that surrounds Chris paul Man. Listen, my 433 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: my team is unbelievable and match let's give us some blog. 434 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, 435 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: if you if you show me, if you show me somebody, 436 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: Uh that doesn't have an amazing team around him, and 437 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: they're lying. And I'll tell you first and foremost that 438 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: it's not me, like I'm glad that I can be 439 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: the voice and whatnot, but my team, which consists of 440 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: a number of number of people. But I mean, I 441 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,959 Speaker 1: had to I never started my wife everything. I mean 442 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: when my wife since I was eighteen years old, and 443 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: she she is absolutely the point guard of the family. 444 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: You know, I just play it for my team. Um. 445 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: But then I got my my parents. I'm so blessed. 446 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm fortunate to have a mom and dad. Uh my 447 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: older brother who is my business manager. Also have a 448 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: woman named Carmen Wilson who is unbelievable, unbelievable, and it 449 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: goes on and on. We're really a family when it 450 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,959 Speaker 1: when it comes to our operations, and that's really important 451 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: because family. I look back in my life. I tell 452 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: people when I comment club and Nanny too, it was 453 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: my family who worked the door. It's my family who 454 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: set people down. I wouldn't be here without my family. 455 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: So I understand the value of your conversation because it's 456 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: that support system that can be family, can be friends, 457 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: but you gotta have that support system. And I want 458 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: to apologize right with Chris, I jumped the club sixty one. Really, 459 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: I want to get back over to where we really 460 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: originally brought you on the phone and talk about the Business, Entertainment, 461 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: Media and Sports event this happening September at the Alumni 462 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: Foundation Center. Please tell us in more detail exactly, Uh, 463 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: it is what the agenda is gonna be. I know 464 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: we have twargion fifty North count Ant students. Talk a 465 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: little bit more about that. So, Uh, the students, they're 466 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: gonna participate in a class, right, and they'll discuss case studies. 467 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: So that's what we did when I went to the 468 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: class at Harvard. So we'll have case studies. And it's 469 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: cool because one of the case studies is on the 470 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: ways like my brother, one of my really close friends, 471 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: and we'll get a chance to go over some of 472 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: his business things that he's had over the years and 473 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: decisions that he had to make, the same thing we'll 474 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: do for the Walt Disney Studios, which is a huge company, 475 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: major company. Um, And we'll get to have discussions and 476 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: I think the nicest, the best thing about the classes 477 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: that provide brainstorm and then you also get a chance 478 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: to get some real information that a lot of times 479 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: people don't know. That's why I'm so excited to be 480 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 1: a part of it. Also because you know, I've been blessed, 481 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: like I said, to be in some of these rooms 482 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: and some of these decisions on how they've been made. 483 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: So to talk to the students and let them ask 484 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: questions and you know, basically get behind the curtain on 485 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of major deals. You know 486 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: it really when you talk about the Walt Disney brand, 487 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: and this is what he's really saying. When you Okay, 488 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: let's look look at the Walt didn't brand. Let's break 489 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: that down ESPN, Hulu, Fox, Okay, Disney plus E ISBN 490 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: plus all of the parks. So when you just grab 491 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: Disney Alan, you got the whole gaming right now worldwide. 492 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: They got the six highest grossing movies in the world. 493 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: It's Walt Disney owned ABC don't want to forget a 494 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: free form. So when you're talking about is he alone? 495 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: It just it will just shock these young people to 496 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: know that how far it's brand did you associated with? 497 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: You might say, h picks are Marvel. Oh he's gonna 498 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna check me now, he's gonna he's gonna check 499 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: me like, I'm just messing with you, Chris, just messing 500 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: with you because you're right, it's so much til Black 501 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: Panther absolutely absolutely, yeah, yeah, So all of these different 502 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:31,959 Speaker 1: types of things. First of all, I want to let 503 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: you know thank you for coming on my show. I 504 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: want to let you know, please um anything you promote. 505 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: I'm a fan based in Houston. Still got a home 506 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: in Houston. I live in Atlanta, I've been in New York. 507 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: I'm doing a lot of things. I am a fan. 508 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: I went to the University of Houston. I also didn't 509 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: not go to an HBCU school, but I'm you know, 510 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: I would endown at my university Houston. But I am 511 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: going to be a major player as far as a 512 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: voce for HBCU schools. So no, whenever you need to 513 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 1: come our way, Chef n Smith Way, ras Sean mcdonaway, 514 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: Ricky Smiley Way, we will be there for you, brother, 515 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 1: because HBCUs need that voice. What did you say that here? 516 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: Thank you, my brother, and you've been thank you for 517 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: getting on this call. And I appreciate you, man, and 518 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: keep your family high man, because guess what they're the 519 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 1: reason you're strong. Okay, we'll be right back with more 520 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: from Rashan McDonald and Money Making Conversations don't touch that dot. 521 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: As host of money Making Conversations, Rashan McDonald is uniquely 522 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: positioned to provide a step by step, easy to understand 523 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: blueprint that drives listeners to realize their dreams and aspirations. 524 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: Until you do the business plan or incorporate or actually 525 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: create that product or start selling products, the universe doesn't 526 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 1: have to deal with money Making Conversations continues online at 527 00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: www dot money Making Conversations dot com. But next guest 528 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: is an actor, writer, director, and producer. He's a series 529 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,479 Speaker 1: regular on ABC's hit drama A Million Little Things, starring 530 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: is the character Rome Howard. He is back on the 531 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: show to talk about the first season and the upcoming 532 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: second season, and I want to share some very important 533 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: advice that he gave me. He's the first born American 534 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: with Trinidadian descent. He has lived from Baytown, Texas to 535 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico. Please welcome back the Money Making Conversations Rominy Malcolm. Hey, 536 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: thank you, Dan. That's a nice interes. Let's talk you 537 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: the best central. I have a guy, right there. Thank 538 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: you very much, Sean, appreciate that good. I'm happy to 539 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: be here. And and I want to know if I could, 540 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: if I could piggy back on what you were saying about, 541 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: you know, if you have a plan that you can 542 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: make it. Am I allowed to do that? Or do me? Now? 543 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: It just show us about to do your thing. I 544 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: just want to say something, you know. Uh, you know. Look, 545 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: one of the other things that really inhibits people, I believe, 546 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: from actually realizing their dreams is simply they have this 547 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: preconceived notion of what the process should be like. So 548 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: what that means is they think from what they take 549 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: things to face value, that they take the success they 550 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: see your face value, and then so they go into 551 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: it and they I don't care if you're just selling jewelry, 552 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: making YouTube videos, or running a fortune five hundred company. 553 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: The bottom line is that people are doing a lot 554 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: of additional work beyond what you're seeing and you know, 555 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: at face value. So in other words, there's so much 556 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: extra work that goes on behind the scenes. And I 557 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: don't don't get me wrong, I'm not talking about paying dudes. 558 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: Yes there's paying dudes, but there's also simple strategies and 559 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: techniques that we need mentors and we need non parvental 560 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: care in adults to inform usel because we hadn't walked 561 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: that path. And it's those little bits of insight that 562 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: saved us so much time. I wish I had known 563 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: that when I was younger. I caught to be a 564 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: lot further ahead of my own life. That's all. But 565 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: isn't that part of the growing process process to you know? 566 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: Because I always go back and I always tell people 567 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: what you learn in your twenties, it's really what the 568 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: structure of what you're going to be successful in your 569 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: forties and your fifties, because that's when you were fearless. 570 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: That's when you had the dreams, and if anybody told 571 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: you a question, you you tended to ignore that. But 572 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: as you got older, you got into relationships and you 573 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: start worried about the position you are in life. You know, 574 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: that fear of change, that fear of I bet, I bet, 575 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: I've been a hold back on this. So the whole 576 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: back what you say, right, No, but no, But there's 577 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: some value to that though, because you know something real talk. 578 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,479 Speaker 1: I have to say that there was definitely a fearlessness uh, 579 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, in my youth. But also what there was 580 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: was this uh lack of awareness of self. Because of 581 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: that lack of awareness of self, I had these unaddressed issues. 582 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: So by not knowing myself and not knowing what I 583 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: was capable of, I was kind of afraid that would 584 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: composed myself if any sense, very much. A lot of 585 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: people tell me, Yeah, people say, yo, well, I'm you're 586 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: so underrated. I'm not underrated, really, I'm just scared. So 587 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: I'm the dude to avoid a lot of the avoided 588 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: a lot of great opportunities simply because I was afraid 589 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: that I would be suppose it is not being worthy 590 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: or good enough. So I actually took I I actually 591 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: took refuge, and I found uh joy in being able 592 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: to be the side dude, being able to be the 593 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: supporting actor, you know. And you know that was really 594 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: a biproduct of just like deeper insecurity that hadn't been 595 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: addressed real talk. So I think that you know, we 596 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: have a fair defensive with kids, but there's a subconscious 597 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: thing as well where maybe we've been convinced by you know, 598 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: by our environment that we're not worthy. Not saying that 599 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: it's true we've just been convinced of it, and so 600 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: I think sometimes there's a lot of value in northern 601 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: in northern American countries, we tend to overlook, uh, the 602 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: need to resolve those issues as we pursue success. You know, 603 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: it's not just about willpowers. There is a resolve. Most 604 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: of the wealthy people that helped me make my movies, 605 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: that helped me make my money, they have all had 606 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: to put themselves in that vulnerable position of getting to 607 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: know themselves better. Because on the on the movie Prison Logic, 608 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: there was you did when you came on the show 609 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: last time? That was a crowdfunded movie. Correct, it was 610 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: a cloud on the movie. Now here was my strategy 611 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: on that. This is the prime example of what I'm 612 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: saying about getting to know the ins and outs of something. 613 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: I UH did so much research on cliud funding had 614 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: no idea that it wasn't just about you know, starting 615 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: up and asking your fans of money. There was so 616 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: much strategy and to be quite frank, like that cloud 617 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: funding game as shady as hell, and you you would 618 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: not believe it. All the all the skulls that we 619 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: could go on behind the scenes and being able to 620 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: learn and understand that. But what I did was I 621 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: used the cloud funding campaign to attract investors. So here's 622 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: the prime example of a strategy you might not know. 623 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: You never asked for a hundred percent of what you 624 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: want when you're running a cloud funding campaign. Always asked 625 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: about fifty because statistically, a successful cloud funding campaign will 626 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: be funded on average between two hundred to a thousand 627 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: percent of asking. So that means that if you're asking 628 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: for a hundred thousand and your campaign is successful, your 629 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: gaarmantee to make somewhere between two hundred thousand and a million, 630 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: you get so so the my math might be up 631 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: there you saw. I got a little secure when I 632 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: saw that, calculating the point you're all comedians. You're all comedians, right, 633 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: um so so anyway, so what I did was I 634 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: made the crowd fund the campaign successful by asking for 635 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: half of what I wanted, and then went to investors 636 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: show infestis, look, this campaign is hot and people like 637 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: to see your train this role. And like my manager 638 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: told me, sometimes you gotta start your party and then 639 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: sending out the invitations. And that's kind of what I did. 640 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: I used the campaign to attract confestors by making the 641 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: campaign look like you had a huge following and a 642 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: lot of people that were back in it that inspired 643 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: and motivated the investors, and so we ended up doing that. 644 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: Um I made the movie. I saw the winning stuff 645 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: at all these different festivals, and I didn't even listen. 646 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't in sun Dance and all those festivals. I 647 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: was actually in the festivals that were hosted in places 648 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: where people had given me money. And I said, we're 649 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: gonna submit to them festivals. We went to them festivals. 650 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: We was winning Best Lead Audience Audience Awards. That edited 651 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: the death music lesson. Right then James Littlepez for Will 652 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: Packer's company, saw that I loved it, took it to 653 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: Will Packer. They called me, like eleven o'clock at night, 654 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: you wanted to talk about it. I got on the 655 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: phone with In fact, that's my Instagram post this morning. 656 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: I got on the phone with them, and the next 657 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 1: thing you know, we were selling it to Smith Global Media, 658 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: which is will Will Smith's brother, Hay Smith. First time 659 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: I got on the phone with him, I thought they 660 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: was plunking me. I really thought it was Will because 661 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: they found so much Likelih. But anyway, so that movie 662 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: comes out next year to February. We look for it. Okay, 663 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: you know we have so much great things we've talked 664 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: about so far. I'm gonna wrap up this particular break. 665 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the movie that's coming out in November 666 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 1: called Holiday Rush that's coming on Netflix. Let's let's wrap 667 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 1: this break up talking about that all Holiday Rush that's 668 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: coming out of the Netflix in November. Correct, man, let 669 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: me tell you something that I don't know. If you 670 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: know who Leslie Small is, he's a man. Come on. 671 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: He did like three Neighborhood Awards. He directed like three 672 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: Neighborhood Awards for me. I know Leslie Small. Okay, dude, 673 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: that that's first of all, ask my brother. This dude 674 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: is incredible. One of the most inspiring him in he's 675 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: ever met. This dude. He's directed Kevin Hard to stand ups, 676 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 1: can organ stand up, became a big comedian. He's he's 677 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: he's hit him in their prime. Right. So he's like, Yo, 678 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: I want you to do this movie. I want you 679 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: to play the lead. And again, like I said, the man, 680 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 1: securities kicked there and I was like, you wanted me 681 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: to play the lead. You want to meet like Romany 682 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 1: Maunco to play lead Romany Malco living in Puerto Rico 683 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 1: to Funti Texas at Baytown, Texas. Right, I'm like, you 684 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: want to meet Baker and he was like, yes, So 685 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: let me tell something. I felt insecure making the whole 686 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: movie where he cast a Niqua Martin Green, he cast 687 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: the uncle. These people showed up so on, so on, 688 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: another level of prepared and funny, and they forced me 689 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 1: to tap into something in myself that I didn't even 690 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 1: know I had. And I kept going to him every 691 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: other scene and being like, are you sure, Because I'm sure? 692 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: Because you're not sure, he says, You're not supposed to 693 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: feel comfortable here. You're supposed to be being stretching. That's 694 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 1: what happened. So here what happened. I So we make 695 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: the movie. I go away, I come back, so I 696 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: have to do a b R. So I have to 697 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 1: do a b R like maybe like four months later. 698 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: And that's what you kind of put your your match. 699 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: You have to fix some dialogue that didn't go right 700 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: in the movie. And I get to see about fifteen 701 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: minutes of this movie. Oh my god, I cannot tell 702 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: you how much I enjoyed watching this movie. I play 703 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 1: a single father, a widowed father of four kids. I 704 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: have I have said the twins. I have a preteen 705 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: and a preteen daughter, and a teenage son who's about 706 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: to go to college. And I'm a big time holiday 707 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a big time radio host, just like you. 708 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: You know, and you know, and and and then all 709 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: of a sudden, my station gets sold to some people 710 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: that are talking about they going in a different direction. 711 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: And I have no job, I have nothing. And me 712 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: and my family, you know, after losing our wife, losing 713 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: my wife and and then my kid's mother, we kind 714 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: of went down the superficial road to kind of just 715 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: you know, uh, put a band aid over the hurt 716 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: that we were feeling. And now we have to learn 717 00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,959 Speaker 1: new values because we can't get we can't be super 718 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: specially anymore, we can't afford to be. And so it's 719 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: the story about the family learning real value. Season two 720 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: premiere of A Million Little Thing, when the stars of 721 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,240 Speaker 1: the show plays the character Room Howard Uh, he's best friends, 722 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: his two best friends left, but he's also dealing with 723 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 1: a lot of issues himself, and the fact that we're 724 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 1: able to talk about it. Basically, the text of it, 725 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,359 Speaker 1: the gang rallies around the Lilah. That's the best friend 726 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,399 Speaker 1: of the suicide best friend, the wife of the best 727 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: friend suicide, wife of the one who committed suicide. See 728 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 1: how we're talking man wife for the best friend she died. 729 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: She's having the baby with the other best friend. You know, 730 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: you know, with his character about to commit suicide. Then 731 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: at the end of the series, he turned to his 732 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: wife said he understands now we need to have a baby, 733 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: and she goes, I want to do everything you want 734 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: to do, but not that. Yeah, that was a heartbreaker, 735 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: And then into deliver room and he's just standing there going, huh. 736 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 1: I thought I was about to say something you wanted 737 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,280 Speaker 1: to hear. She said, honey, I want to do everything 738 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 1: that you want to you, but not that. O my lord, 739 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: I love it. This is and this show keeps throwing 740 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 1: you twists. I can't wait. I mean, I'm so grateful. 741 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: Do you actually quote Michelle I it needs a lot 742 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: that you took time to watch the show. Man really 743 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: does thank you very much because I know you got 744 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: a lot to do. Absolutely, And the thing nobody is 745 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: that I do have a lot to do. But guess 746 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: what when I when? I because first of all, your 747 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: your your lovel of quality work that you're involved in, 748 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: because you know, I first became a fan of your 749 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: own for your old version, and I followed you for 750 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 1: years on Weeds. Okay, and then you blessed me by 751 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: starting the two of the movies that I was executive producing. 752 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: And think like a man, and think like a man too. 753 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: So I'm a fan. I'm a fan. I'm a and 754 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: then you you blessed me by coming on my show. 755 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And they gave giving me momentum, 756 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: your star power, give me momentum to get other people 757 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: run me on this show. Well I'll come over sean 758 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: show too, you know, because when you when you, it's 759 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 1: all about relationships, you know. And so to come back 760 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: this time, I had to be ready for you because 761 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: you and then all of a sudden let me in 762 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: on prison logic. You let me see that before I 763 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,240 Speaker 1: got sold, before I got before it started giving the awards. 764 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: Come on, man, you blessed me. Okay. Man, Yeah, y'all, 765 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 1: y'all have been y'all have been lessons in my life. 766 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: From the minute I hit the scene. All I can 767 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: do is just give your gratitude my brother. And of 768 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: course of course your your your insight, counts, your your wisdom, 769 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: it counts and it helps me too. Man. So I 770 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: feel like it's specifical, it's specificated. You got me on 771 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: here talking, you're me talking. I feel like we gossip 772 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: in absolutely everybody Catch my man. A Million Little Things 773 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: premier Thursday, September twenty six, nine p m. East West 774 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: Coast a p m. Central on ABC. But man, come 775 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: back in November for holiday. Rush Okay, Hi, this is 776 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: Rushan mcdowe, the host of Money Making Conversations. You say 777 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: to yourself who calls Rushan Shell. Please welcome to money 778 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: Making Conversations. La La Anthony. We met you know used 779 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:16,320 Speaker 1: always can you give, always talk to you about everything, 780 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: everything and looking at you and Steve Harvey. You know 781 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: that motivated me too because I would see all amazing 782 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: things you guys are doing it not just being on 783 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 1: the radio at that time and even now you know 784 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: people want to put people in boxes. Please welcome to 785 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations. The incredible Nick Cannon, you truly one 786 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,800 Speaker 1: of them our mentors and one of the people that 787 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 1: showed me that you can be motifascinated. You know for 788 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 1: a fact now that you're about to capture and the audience, 789 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 1: it's going to have a spending power for at least 790 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,760 Speaker 1: another twenty years, three years. Like my happiness, money doesn't 791 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 1: make you happy, but happy makes your money. Money Making 792 00:40:51,239 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 1: Conversations continues online at www. Dot money Making Conversations dot com. Okay, y'all, okay, 793 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: this this show, Money Making Conversation host about Roshan McDonald 794 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: is a motivational show. It's an inspirational show and show 795 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: that when the people listen to my show, they walk 796 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 1: away with information that will help them be successful. I 797 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 1: talked about planning. I talked about goals and talking about 798 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: dreams and turn those dreams into reality. And it's all 799 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 1: about being a planner, all about realizing that what you 800 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: want to accomplish in life, you have to work hard 801 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,839 Speaker 1: for you. Hear that statement a lot working hard, working hard? 802 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: How do you work hard? What's the plan to work hard? 803 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: Is their day off when you're working hard? All this 804 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: is part of the process. That's why I created Money 805 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: Making Conversation. But my next interview really it's uh, it's 806 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 1: about food. It's about reshaance. I think, um second favorite thing, 807 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: not that you do in life is eat. The other 808 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 1: parties just living. I love living, but eating. My friends 809 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: no me, they know I love to eat. And this 810 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: this this UH interview a feature I called Rushan Eats. 811 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,760 Speaker 1: It's on my website, Baker Spotlight. You go there different 812 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 1: places I've been told about UH that are amazing restaurants. 813 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: I make them a part of Rushan Eats. So that's 814 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: just a setup of my introduction to my next guests. 815 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 1: My next guest first introduced Texans to their mouth watering 816 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 1: turkey legs as the Houston Rodeo. In let you know 817 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: about the Houston Livestock Showing Rodeo. Roughly two million people 818 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: attend the Houston Livestock Showing Rodeo every year. Just let 819 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 1: you know. It's not just a regular rodeo. So just 820 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 1: to get just to be a Protestant, be a vendor 821 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,919 Speaker 1: at the Houston Livestock Showing Rodeo is a game change, 822 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:46,280 Speaker 1: especially for minorities. In three short years, the Houston couple 823 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: has taken their widely popular turkey legs to new heights, 824 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,919 Speaker 1: expanding their menu to include seven varieties of suculent, fall 825 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: off the home, fall off the bone turkey legs in 826 00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:00,800 Speaker 1: a full compliment of homemade delicacies at their first Turkey 827 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: Leg location on al me the Road and the heart 828 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: of Houston and historic Third War Texas. Third War Texas, 829 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 1: Texas Southerners there. University of Houston where I went to 830 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 1: school was there. Jack Gates, one of the most powerful 831 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 1: football program African American programs in the history of Texas football, 832 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: is located in Third War Texas. The restaurant has also 833 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 1: become a popular Houston spot, hot spot with late night 834 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 1: hours and sold for live music every Tuesday. Please welcome 835 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,360 Speaker 1: to money Making Conversation. One of the owners of Turkey 836 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: Leg Hug Turkey Leg, the originators of the world famous 837 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 1: stuff turkey Legs. Please welcome. Killa Price. I'll tell you what, 838 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: um you know, just saying your name, MS. Price makes 839 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 1: me home. You know that, you know that, you know 840 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 1: I got the I got the website up, I got 841 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,760 Speaker 1: all this amazing food. You post the video. The rappers 842 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 1: love you, your videos going viral. Before we even get 843 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 1: into the question, just let me no, or you overwhelmed 844 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 1: by all this, or it's just like you prayed about 845 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,360 Speaker 1: it and you knew this was gonna happen, you know, 846 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: with hard work and faith and all that good stuff 847 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 1: and people surrounded. Let's talk about how you feeling about this, 848 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 1: because right now I'm feeling hongry. I think it's definitely 849 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 1: something that we prayed about. Um. We never in a 850 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 1: million years did we imagine that it would be to 851 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 1: this extent. But every day of the journey, we take 852 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 1: it one day at a time, and one day at 853 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 1: the time means what because your business because you expanding. 854 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that later. Expanding the business. I'm 855 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: sure people just dropping all these ideas about franchise and 856 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 1: gr y'all could be the next such and such, and 857 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: you have to take that in stride because the fact that, 858 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 1: like I said, what were you when I was at 859 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 1: the livestop? Where were you have before? Before I was 860 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 1: at the livestop? But before that, my husband had a 861 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 1: repo company. He was recoring our v trailers and I 862 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: myself was that you your project manager for a litigation firms. 863 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: So neither one of us had culinary background or culinary experience. Um, 864 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 1: you know, was something that that happened he had. We 865 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 1: had the idea we were disappointing to you know, with 866 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 1: the rodeo, we were shuttling people into the rodeo. So 867 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 1: food wasn't even our main focus at that point in time. Um, 868 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 1: and our main focus was shuttling people into the rodeo. 869 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: We just had a barbecue pit on the field in 870 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: the field where we were shuttling the people, and we 871 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,400 Speaker 1: had turkey legs, food and sausage on a stick. And 872 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 1: you know, we came up with the idea that we 873 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 1: were just going to feed people while they were waiting 874 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,880 Speaker 1: to go inside at the rodeo. And my husband, he, 875 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 1: you know, his thing was just repost for us social media, 876 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: social media. Everything is social social media reposed for us. 877 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 1: Let's see what happens, and it just snowball from there. 878 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 1: So the fact that he had the foresight and understand 879 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 1: the value of social media, and you got the these 880 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 1: giant pizzas and you know, I'm gonnae to yourself, you 881 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 1: know because will you say your clienteles African American? Yes, okay, cool? 882 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 1: I want just before I make to stake because black 883 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,320 Speaker 1: people like value for their money. Okay, so correct, you 884 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: see you see this giant I'm telling you so that 885 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: giant turkey leg and then like any any restaurant you 886 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:18,840 Speaker 1: I can say this, and black people they can, they 887 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 1: can confront me on this. But if you if you 888 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:22,919 Speaker 1: take a black pot to the restaurant when they can't 889 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,839 Speaker 1: go home with a doggy bag, you got them. As 890 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 1: a customer, you do, you do, and we made that's 891 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,320 Speaker 1: one of the things that we've always made sure that 892 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 1: you know our price points. It may not be for everyone, 893 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 1: but people pay for what it is that they want, 894 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 1: and we make sure that you get the value as well. 895 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,840 Speaker 1: So you're paying. But you also, I mean, all of 896 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 1: our plates are sharable. We give you a lot of foods, 897 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 1: a lot of food you sure do so, so you 898 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 1: understood that, you know, and I would tell you that. 899 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 1: Just let's talk about the basic turkey leg. Okay, I've 900 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 1: I've tried to man up. I've been at Disney, I've 901 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 1: been an amusement park, and I'm trying to man up. 902 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 1: Go get my turkey leg. Canna say, I'm gonna finish 903 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,399 Speaker 1: this and lord, note it has beaten me every time, 904 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:10,800 Speaker 1: just the turkey leg okay, has beating your board back. Okay, 905 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,800 Speaker 1: I'm looking about trying to hand this off to somebody 906 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,399 Speaker 1: because you know, when you're walking to our amusement park. 907 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 1: You got the turkey, la, you gotta do something with 908 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,719 Speaker 1: it because you're not eating anymore. Okay, so you go 909 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 1: in the restaurant and then y'all, I'm gonna say, call 910 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 1: y'all crazy because y'all not all stuffed it. Yeah, it's 911 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 1: crazy people thinking like that. You're crazy. People are geniuses. Okay, 912 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,919 Speaker 1: it's a genius about this whole thing that they took 913 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 1: a basic piece of meat that is that it's impossible 914 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,800 Speaker 1: for a normal person to eat. Then they're gonna go 915 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 1: just the crazy part. We're gonna put something else in there, 916 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 1: extra stuff, extra stuff. And then so so that's the part. Now, 917 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 1: when y'all was I was shuttling people in, you didn't 918 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,879 Speaker 1: have the stuff part of the campaign yet. Correct. Okay, 919 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 1: when did that craziness developed? Kill? When who thought that? 920 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 1: I live know what you who thought of that? I 921 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,320 Speaker 1: have to give credit? What credit is? It was? That 922 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 1: was his idea to stuff to turulate. See he out 923 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 1: there to people, to people, they think of stuff like that. 924 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:21,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, because he knows he knows the 925 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,759 Speaker 1: value of extra cause see I used to when I 926 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 1: when I was when I was living in Houston, I 927 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 1: used to onload trucks and the food trucks come by. 928 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 1: So everything you look at you always want some extra 929 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: and all your your fantasized. But if I got this, 930 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 1: I put this over top. See he's one of he's 931 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,279 Speaker 1: one of the people you should put food on the plate. 932 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,800 Speaker 1: He don't care if it touches. Some people don't like that. 933 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,319 Speaker 1: And I'm that person that doesn't like that. I'm saying, 934 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 1: but he don't care. It's all going down one one pipe. 935 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 1: That's the same thing. See he liked me, he like. 936 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,279 Speaker 1: So what they have done, these crazy this crazy couple. 937 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that this amazing restaurant called 938 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,439 Speaker 1: the Turkey Leg Hut in Houston, Texas, have said, look, 939 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 1: we got this big old was meat. We're gonna jazz 940 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 1: it up. Now, what was the first thing. What was 941 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,879 Speaker 1: the first jazz that you added to the beat? There? 942 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 1: The first jazz that we added was the dirty rice. 943 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 1: I was the first. Ya, Yes, they knew exactly. And 944 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 1: then thereafter we had the shrimp. And now Alfredo saw 945 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 1: see they went jazzy right there had to be a 946 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 1: little higher than normal though that You just don't add 947 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,840 Speaker 1: shrimp on a turkey leg and just keep it normal 948 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 1: for you now see dirty rights. You can keep that 949 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:43,120 Speaker 1: reasonable right there, but that you gotta have to see 950 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 1: the thing about just I love about what I'm talking 951 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 1: about it because see when people come in the restaurants 952 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,439 Speaker 1: like that, you gotta have a price point. I learned 953 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,480 Speaker 1: that from Thorn concert. Everybody. Everybody don't want to buy 954 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,239 Speaker 1: the twenty dollar ticket. Some people want to. They wanted 955 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,920 Speaker 1: Pacific one to seventified dollar ticket because they think it 956 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 1: has more value. Alright, so certain client teller they have 957 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:11,400 Speaker 1: they want that high end. This is very true. Yes, otherwise, 958 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 1: and that's actually our best seller. See I know it's 959 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,360 Speaker 1: my fond and that goes back to people pay for 960 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 1: what it is that they want. Okay, cool, now, I 961 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,759 Speaker 1: don't think I missed this question. What gave you the 962 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:30,239 Speaker 1: idea to stuff or turkey leg? Like I said, that 963 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,840 Speaker 1: was my husband's idea, you know, he we were playing 964 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 1: around with everything. You know how we the original turkey leg, 965 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,239 Speaker 1: the regular turkey leg. It has stuffing in it, but 966 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 1: it's it's stuffed with different seasonings, um, different vegetables, things 967 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,000 Speaker 1: that we I mean, you know, things that we've incorporated 968 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 1: into the turkey leg. So it's not a regular turkey leg. 969 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 1: It's not a walk around the fair holding turkey leg. 970 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 1: It's there's a process to how we do our turkey legs. 971 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,960 Speaker 1: And then thereafter, you know, he was like, you know 972 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,760 Speaker 1: we you know, we always try to challenge each other, slim, 973 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,800 Speaker 1: if that's what he calls me, slam, I think we should, 974 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,440 Speaker 1: you know, maybe stuffing with dirty rice. And I'm like, 975 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 1: what dirty right, Yeah, I'm telling you it's gonna work. 976 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 1: It's don't work. And I'm like, okay, I don't see it, 977 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 1: but let's do it. And so when we went into 978 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,239 Speaker 1: the brick and mortar, we stopped the turkey leg and 979 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 1: just like you know, when I was trying to tell 980 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 1: him about the season and and he told me we 981 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 1: didn't need to do it, the same thing happened. People 982 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 1: came from everywhere to try to stop circulate. Now, that's 983 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:37,240 Speaker 1: that's really amazing. So so let's talk about your journey. Okay, 984 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 1: before that, you had two jobs that were not not 985 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 1: not cool and very related. That's not what you guys, correct. 986 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,319 Speaker 1: You had to transportation, you transporting people back and forth. 987 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 1: You decided to feed the people. Are you transporting them? 988 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,719 Speaker 1: Make a little extra money on side? That's all. That's 989 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,879 Speaker 1: just like a little bobby stand, you know, we're doing 990 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 1: to come out of the nightclub at three o'clock in 991 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 1: the morning. You always had the guy there with the 992 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 1: with the hot links, you know, and they some reason 993 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 1: they taste real good at three o'clock in the morning. 994 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,239 Speaker 1: Same hot link. It during the daylight don't taste to say, 995 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 1: but three o'clock in the morning, that hot link was 996 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 1: was cracke. And so that's true. The whole part about 997 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,919 Speaker 1: moving towards the brick and more, which is the which 998 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 1: is the really the fear part of it, the business 999 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:17,719 Speaker 1: planning part of it, because you're about to take a 1000 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,880 Speaker 1: rich because you gotta sign a lease and you have 1001 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,080 Speaker 1: to have a certain level of you know, inventory to 1002 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 1: say this is going to be successful. Walk us through 1003 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 1: that process, because that's what money making conversation is always about. 1004 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 1: We have a look about a minute, leyoff. We don't 1005 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,319 Speaker 1: I like to wrap that thought up in the next break, 1006 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 1: but please start us all about the whole process of 1007 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 1: the bricket mortar. So you know, our how we started 1008 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,920 Speaker 1: was very unique. It wasn't you know, the typical you know, 1009 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna seek brick and mortar and this is what 1010 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna do. It was actually got a phone call 1011 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,480 Speaker 1: from someone that he went to school with about a 1012 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:58,080 Speaker 1: location that UM didn't have much business and with the 1013 00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,279 Speaker 1: following that we had garnered while we were out there 1014 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 1: in the field. It was like, hey, you know you 1015 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,880 Speaker 1: all have a following, would you be interested in coming 1016 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 1: and you know, just checking out the kitchen seeing if 1017 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,720 Speaker 1: this is the place that you all want to continue 1018 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,880 Speaker 1: to sell turkey legs and UM, and that was it. 1019 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:16,839 Speaker 1: So we you know, we went over there. We didn't 1020 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,320 Speaker 1: know anything about running a restaurant. Everything with us and 1021 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,799 Speaker 1: I think that's why we appreciate it so much more 1022 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,719 Speaker 1: has been trial and error. White people, they were standing 1023 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,240 Speaker 1: along restaurant life'll do that. That's very true. Black people. 1024 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 1: They're very impatient people, very impatient people. It has to 1025 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 1: be something behind that dope that they're gonna keep that place. 1026 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,479 Speaker 1: That's why when somebody cuts in front of him, there's 1027 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 1: a problem all give doing. If it's if it's uh, 1028 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:49,759 Speaker 1: Steve Harvey, Oh Steve, I don't care. I don't care. No, 1029 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,040 Speaker 1: they don't, they don't, They do not care, and they 1030 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:57,319 Speaker 1: get upset, get upset now, so on Tuesdays. You also 1031 00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,040 Speaker 1: do a live music at the at the Rig. You 1032 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:04,440 Speaker 1: know turkey leg hut Okay, correct, Yes, we do live 1033 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:09,759 Speaker 1: band seven thirty every Tuesday. But you can do You'll 1034 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,800 Speaker 1: be jamming. You know your turkey leg jamming. You know 1035 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,919 Speaker 1: your turkey leg to music, grooving to the beat. Yeah, 1036 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,320 Speaker 1: the kid, y'all on fire. You guys are on fire. 1037 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 1: You love No, No, I gotta ask this, you know. 1038 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 1: I'm all right. Like I said, I graduated from the 1039 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 1: University Houston. Have they have they on you yet as 1040 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 1: a as a as an alumnus of the school. We 1041 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,719 Speaker 1: yet have they honored you? No? Not chet. I mean, 1042 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:41,480 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of the my my, the coaches 1043 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,919 Speaker 1: come in, they bring a lot of the women's women's South. 1044 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna change that. We're gonna change that. Okay, 1045 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna get a little call because we're Sean McDonald 1046 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 1: telling you you're special. You're one our one of our 1047 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 1: shining lights of the University of Houston. I have a 1048 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,600 Speaker 1: dollarship programs, got an endownment. I'm about to lay down 1049 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,600 Speaker 1: lower with my wife for Universe Houston next month, and 1050 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,640 Speaker 1: so we're gonna come back after. We're gonna come back 1051 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 1: a celebrated Turkey legod because I'm bringing up by there, 1052 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,360 Speaker 1: probably bring everybody over there. Okay. So I want to 1053 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 1: let you know that I'm proud you took your time 1054 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,719 Speaker 1: to come on my show. I'm proud that you did. 1055 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,440 Speaker 1: You shared your story and you honestly shared your story. 1056 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,879 Speaker 1: And it's about effort, it's about dreams, it's about being 1057 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 1: able to accomplish something through hard work and education. But again, 1058 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,359 Speaker 1: you're gonna see me on Friday. I'm gonna be well 1059 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 1: dressed now. I can't come in there not looking like 1060 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,160 Speaker 1: I'm right, you know. But I know I better come 1061 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,000 Speaker 1: earlier because I can't cut in front of your crowd. 1062 00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,640 Speaker 1: But you keep winning. And please tell your husband next 1063 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 1: time we do this show, I need him. I need 1064 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:48,520 Speaker 1: to talk to my board Lynn. Okay. As host of 1065 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations, Rashan McDonald is uniquely positioned to provide 1066 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,920 Speaker 1: a step by step, easy to understand blueprint that drives 1067 00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,720 Speaker 1: listeners to realize their dreams and aspirations.