1
00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:05,080
Speaker 1: Blending Vice's signature dynamic storytelling with the high octane.

2
00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:05,640
Speaker 2: World of sports.

3
00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,200
Speaker 1: Vice Sports brings an exciting and diverse range of programming

4
00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,000
Speaker 1: that goes beyond the game. From action pack live events

5
00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,560
Speaker 1: to gripping behind the scenes documentaries, to hard hitting investigative

6
00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:20,279
Speaker 1: pieces and in depth profiles of athletes, coaches, teams. Vice

7
00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,480
Speaker 1: Sports captures the raw energy, drama, and passion that makes

8
00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,440
Speaker 1: sports truly unforgettable. Catch live events and other exclusive sports

9
00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:32,160
Speaker 1: programs only on Vice TV. Go to vicetv dot com

10
00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,000
Speaker 1: to find your cable channel.

11
00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:38,839
Speaker 3: The volume.

12
00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,200
Speaker 2: Lo Willian.

13
00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:49,080
Speaker 4: Welcome to our one year anniversary of the greatest battle

14
00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,519
Speaker 4: in hip hop history with Drake and Kendrick Lamar. We

15
00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,440
Speaker 4: are here to celebrate with two of the biggest media

16
00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,200
Speaker 4: personalities of the entire battle, Damaris. I felt like with

17
00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,400
Speaker 4: the best two to bring in to really break down

18
00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,399
Speaker 4: everything that happened a year ago, I agree representation for

19
00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,560
Speaker 4: both camps. We will start with our first guest, hailing

20
00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:14,920
Speaker 4: from Carson, California. Go Figure had no idea media personality,

21
00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,800
Speaker 4: legendary DJ and the Coast Guard. From what I'm told,

22
00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,200
Speaker 4: I have yet to see him swim, but we are

23
00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,960
Speaker 4: joined by our family, DJ head West Coast Yay.

24
00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:30,360
Speaker 2: Studio audience, thank you for having me. I appreciate you know,

25
00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,120
Speaker 2: being here. I get to sit on the rory and

26
00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:38,399
Speaker 2: mall set. This is what an honor. I just talk

27
00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:38,720
Speaker 2: like this.

28
00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,039
Speaker 4: I'm not And in the other corner, I do not

29
00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,240
Speaker 4: know his height and weight because I am not built

30
00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,920
Speaker 4: like that, and he would find that offensive if I did.

31
00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,080
Speaker 4: Hailing from the Bronx. Absolutely for them to be exact quest,

32
00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,040
Speaker 4: we have the one and only.

33
00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,440
Speaker 2: I gotta hear it. I'm here every day for the

34
00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,560
Speaker 2: last like twelve years. Like I got a question, you know,

35
00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,280
Speaker 2: like you said when he said you're from the Bronx

36
00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,320
Speaker 2: and then you said the street is that normal? Like

37
00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,280
Speaker 2: that's some East Coast shiit? No, But if you say

38
00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,680
Speaker 2: you're from the Bronx is so big. No, I know that.

39
00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,320
Speaker 2: But that's like saying I'm from Carson. But then I

40
00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,280
Speaker 2: wouldn't say like Diamondale because I don't know. Like I

41
00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,320
Speaker 2: always I always find it interesting about like New Yorkers

42
00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,040
Speaker 2: because even like Wayano does that, like other people do that,

43
00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,919
Speaker 2: where like it'd be like, yeah, this is my block,

44
00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,079
Speaker 2: and it's like I would never tell a nigga where

45
00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,000
Speaker 2: my block is for safety reasons. Oh no, I don't

46
00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,359
Speaker 2: still live there. No, I know that, but I'm just saying, well, no.

47
00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,639
Speaker 4: Niggas do tell you guys tell with your fingers paused

48
00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,240
Speaker 4: and your mouth exact exactly.

49
00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:41,880
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, like to me that that raises

50
00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,240
Speaker 2: safety concerns, Like I would never say the street that

51
00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,760
Speaker 2: I live on on my family is still there, but

52
00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,799
Speaker 2: crusting crushting is okay, gotcha?

53
00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,560
Speaker 4: And Fordham is a street, but it's also like an

54
00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,119
Speaker 4: area more or less.

55
00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,320
Speaker 2: Like okay, gotcha. Yea. That's like when we say Crenshaw,

56
00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,920
Speaker 2: it's a street, but it's also an area exactly, Okay, exactly.

57
00:02:59,040 --> 00:02:59,560
Speaker 2: That makes sense.

58
00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:00,600
Speaker 4: So we didn't docs small.

59
00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:07,959
Speaker 2: He's just took me be my guest. I always always

60
00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,799
Speaker 2: hear in New Yorker say that. I'm like, damn, he

61
00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,160
Speaker 2: just gonna say the street level, Yeah yeah, yeah, but

62
00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,440
Speaker 2: it's it's not a small street, very big block.

63
00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,920
Speaker 4: Well, I want to start with piece something that you

64
00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,800
Speaker 4: guys do agree on in something that actually makes me

65
00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,960
Speaker 4: very happy. The Lakers are the fuck out of the playoffs.

66
00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:24,920
Speaker 4: Thank god. We can clap for that as well. I

67
00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,240
Speaker 4: know both of you are very sad all for some

68
00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,040
Speaker 4: reason as a Lakers fan, I don't understand.

69
00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,560
Speaker 2: But he's on the right side of history Lakers, not

70
00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:33,040
Speaker 2: this year.

71
00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,240
Speaker 4: But I'm a Knicks fan though, I can start to

72
00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,120
Speaker 4: hear that. So I feel like we should start at

73
00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,360
Speaker 4: the absolute beginning of this entire thing, right before the

74
00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,520
Speaker 4: battle even started. I want to go to the control verse.

75
00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,840
Speaker 4: Because DJ Head is our guest. We will let him

76
00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,480
Speaker 4: go first. Do you think the subtle shots Kendrick and

77
00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,080
Speaker 4: Drake threw at each other host Control were serious or

78
00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:53,760
Speaker 4: just for sport?

79
00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,120
Speaker 2: I think it's all sport. It's always been sport up

80
00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,080
Speaker 2: until it until it wasn't.

81
00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:00,840
Speaker 4: What point was it not?

82
00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,600
Speaker 2: I think once I mean, we'll get there, I'm sure,

83
00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,800
Speaker 2: but like once lines get crossed and stuff like that,

84
00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,280
Speaker 2: then I think that it no longer. It starts to

85
00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,400
Speaker 2: take it outside of the round. With sports. It's no

86
00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,800
Speaker 2: different than like you seen like round our Tests or

87
00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,000
Speaker 2: La Trail or Draymond or a sport until it's not

88
00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,359
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. What line was cross when

89
00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,200
Speaker 2: from control or any line that was later on. Okay,

90
00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,120
Speaker 2: that was later on, but from the control it was

91
00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,279
Speaker 2: just like once that that was all like sport and

92
00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,680
Speaker 2: it was just like, yeah, getting the booth, Okay.

93
00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,920
Speaker 4: I feel you. Then there was a rumor, which I

94
00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,040
Speaker 4: think both of you guys have some background on Kendrick

95
00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,599
Speaker 4: was supposed to be on First Person Shooter what became

96
00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,520
Speaker 4: First Person Shooter, and there was some type of disagreement

97
00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:51,000
Speaker 4: between Kendrick and Drake, both of you being insiders, can

98
00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,680
Speaker 4: you tell us what really happened when Drake reached out

99
00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,920
Speaker 4: to Kendrick to get him on what became First Person

100
00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,040
Speaker 4: Shooter head we can start with you or mall, depending

101
00:04:59,080 --> 00:04:59,320
Speaker 4: on I.

102
00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,440
Speaker 2: Don't know what happened. I'm not sure what happened. I

103
00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,240
Speaker 2: do know that obviously he was supposed to be on

104
00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,040
Speaker 2: the record. I don't know if he just decided he

105
00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,200
Speaker 2: didn't want to do it because he had other plans,

106
00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,520
Speaker 2: or if it was just a time and thing and

107
00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,200
Speaker 2: he was taking too long in the verse back and

108
00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,520
Speaker 2: they moved on without him. I mean, I don't know

109
00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,920
Speaker 2: for sure. I've never had that conversation, but I mean,

110
00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:25,960
Speaker 2: whatever it is is, I don't think it was nothing

111
00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,159
Speaker 2: that you know is a real reason of why this

112
00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,400
Speaker 2: battle man started because he didn't get on the record.

113
00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,920
Speaker 2: I just I believe that he had a plan and

114
00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:35,839
Speaker 2: he was like, this really would go against everything that

115
00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,479
Speaker 2: I'm planning on doing.

116
00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,800
Speaker 4: So okay, So you believe that he had no intention

117
00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,000
Speaker 4: of getting on that and that the like that verse

118
00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,719
Speaker 4: was going to happen regardless of j Cole and Drake

119
00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,919
Speaker 4: going on tour together, hugging on stage talking about the

120
00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,880
Speaker 4: Big Three sort of but it's us because you're at

121
00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,359
Speaker 4: home and we're holding hands. Do you think that anything

122
00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:56,680
Speaker 4: to do that?

123
00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,320
Speaker 2: Do? I think it had something to do with Raking

124
00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,599
Speaker 2: Jake Cole being on stage on tour together and Kendrick

125
00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:09,520
Speaker 2: not liking seeing that and it being a number one record.

126
00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,039
Speaker 2: I mean maybe I think that, you know, the record happened.

127
00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,719
Speaker 2: I don't know if Kendrick thought that them three on

128
00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,919
Speaker 2: the record. I mean, he probably did assume that they

129
00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,719
Speaker 2: would be a number one record with them three on it,

130
00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,080
Speaker 2: but I don't think that that was him seeing them

131
00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,599
Speaker 2: rejoice and have their moment on stage together. He was like,

132
00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,040
Speaker 2: noth fuck that, like I'm dissing these niggas, Like, I

133
00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:32,560
Speaker 2: don't think that was it. I think I think he

134
00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,560
Speaker 2: had this premeditated for a while and just again for sport.

135
00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,240
Speaker 2: I think it started a sport and then I think

136
00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,800
Speaker 2: it turned into something else. I think it started as just,

137
00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:42,880
Speaker 2: you know, I don't want to be boxed in or

138
00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,720
Speaker 2: grouped in with y'all. I feel like I'm better than

139
00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,200
Speaker 2: both of y'all, which is cool An MC and his rapper.

140
00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,320
Speaker 2: You're entitled to that. But I think it turned into

141
00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:53,799
Speaker 2: something else after it was just sport.

142
00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:56,200
Speaker 4: How do he feels that way?

143
00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty straightforward. I don't think it's I don't

144
00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,680
Speaker 2: think it's like as kind implicated this people like to

145
00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,280
Speaker 2: make it out to be like they try to make

146
00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,200
Speaker 2: it out to be like this huge folklore type thing.

147
00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,279
Speaker 2: I don't think it's that. It's really just as simple.

148
00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:13,080
Speaker 2: I don't really have insight on if he was supposed

149
00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,280
Speaker 2: to be on the record or not. I haven't discussed

150
00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,040
Speaker 2: that with anyone, But if he was supposed to be

151
00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,960
Speaker 2: on the record, then I mean, I know the speculation.

152
00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,760
Speaker 2: I'm not an idiot, you know what I'm saying. But

153
00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,320
Speaker 2: if he was supposed to be on the record, then

154
00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,119
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure that he would deliver

155
00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,760
Speaker 2: it on it. But it's I think it's your sport.

156
00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,559
Speaker 4: Do you think Kendrick had been plotting dislike that? Verse,

157
00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,880
Speaker 4: or at least this battle for years, because that was

158
00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,520
Speaker 4: always the rumor, even from people on his side, that

159
00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,480
Speaker 4: this was something that he had been plotting for quite

160
00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,040
Speaker 4: some time. Then Drake ironically said he was going to

161
00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,200
Speaker 4: stop making music for a little while, and then we

162
00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:51,560
Speaker 4: get to.

163
00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:52,040
Speaker 2: Like that verse.

164
00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,760
Speaker 4: No, what pure coincidence.

165
00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,720
Speaker 2: No, it's not coincidence, it's just the verbage, Like the

166
00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,480
Speaker 2: verbage you use, was plotting. Plotting In Decay, plotting is

167
00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,640
Speaker 2: a verb meaning that there was action being taken. I

168
00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,720
Speaker 2: don't think that he was plotting. I think that you're ready,

169
00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,720
Speaker 2: Like I'm a registered firearm owner in the state of California.

170
00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,120
Speaker 2: I'm not plotting on anyone, but I'm ready for whatever.

171
00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,600
Speaker 2: I think that's that's as a rapper in MC, I

172
00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,320
Speaker 2: think every rappers is, you know, has that mindset. I'm

173
00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,560
Speaker 2: always ready. I think every rapper has bars directed at

174
00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,360
Speaker 2: other rappers. But you know, in this case with Drake,

175
00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,160
Speaker 2: I think that every any rapper would want to get

176
00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:26,800
Speaker 2: into a back and forth with Drake. It does it

177
00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,560
Speaker 2: helps you out? No?

178
00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,200
Speaker 4: So do you think he was plotting more? Because you

179
00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,200
Speaker 4: said what pretty loud? No, Well, I see, I see

180
00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:34,720
Speaker 4: what he had of saying plotting. I don't know if

181
00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,400
Speaker 4: that's the word, but I planning I think it's a

182
00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:37,880
Speaker 4: better word.

183
00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,880
Speaker 2: Preparing is a better word. But why not? I think

184
00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,240
Speaker 2: every artist is We're talking about one of the biggest

185
00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,559
Speaker 2: artists in the world, and if I have the opportunity

186
00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,120
Speaker 2: to have a moment with him going back and forth

187
00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,240
Speaker 2: making music and displaying my skill set, would why would

188
00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:53,080
Speaker 2: I not want to do that?

189
00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,040
Speaker 4: Well? Do you think because Kendrick, the Weekend, Metro Future,

190
00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,520
Speaker 4: and Ross all teamed up around the exact same time,

191
00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,120
Speaker 4: that there was no plan or a plot to go

192
00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:03,880
Speaker 4: against Drake all at the exact same time.

193
00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:10,840
Speaker 2: I think that's one of those you know, when you know,

194
00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,120
Speaker 2: people get the opportunity to show you how they really felt.

195
00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,040
Speaker 2: They just waiting for the first person to go, and

196
00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,720
Speaker 2: then other people start expressing their true feelings and emotions.

197
00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,760
Speaker 2: I think that's what that was. I think everybody secretly

198
00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,440
Speaker 2: had some I mean, for the last what fifteen sixteen years,

199
00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:31,480
Speaker 2: Drake has been on top, dominating music. I think other

200
00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,920
Speaker 2: artists see that, and you know, I don't know if

201
00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,800
Speaker 2: jealous get jealousy is a word is the word to use,

202
00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,760
Speaker 2: but I think other artists feel some type of way

203
00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,199
Speaker 2: and then they hear bars and they're like, man, I

204
00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:44,679
Speaker 2: think I could go at him. I think I could

205
00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,360
Speaker 2: get him on the verse. All these guys have songs

206
00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,520
Speaker 2: with them, so there's a relationship. But I think it starts,

207
00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,200
Speaker 2: like head said, I think it's a competitive thing first.

208
00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,880
Speaker 2: I think after a while, you know, it goes into

209
00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,160
Speaker 2: a little bit of a you know, more personal thing,

210
00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,040
Speaker 2: like you know, a lot of a lot of guys

211
00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,719
Speaker 2: you know numbers aren't doing as well if they don't

212
00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,040
Speaker 2: have a song with him, or you know, he sends

213
00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,000
Speaker 2: a verse, he doesn't send verses back as fast as

214
00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,320
Speaker 2: he used to, or he's not sending records like he

215
00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,600
Speaker 2: once was. I think that that starts to turn into like, damn,

216
00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,599
Speaker 2: he don't fuck with me, or you know, like is

217
00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,040
Speaker 2: it an issue you know, change a number or something

218
00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:22,760
Speaker 2: like that. You know, those things happen, and then it

219
00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,160
Speaker 2: turns into a will fuck him?

220
00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:25,959
Speaker 4: Would you agree?

221
00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:32,360
Speaker 2: No, you have elaborate Yeah. So I don't think there's

222
00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,160
Speaker 2: like a I don't think it's like a grandioso conspiracy.

223
00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,680
Speaker 2: I don't think that people is plotting and waiting or

224
00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,400
Speaker 2: I don't even think that it was a jealousy thing

225
00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,319
Speaker 2: or even that had anything to do with his music.

226
00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:47,119
Speaker 2: I think if you're a shitty person to people, regardless

227
00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:51,320
Speaker 2: of what you regardless of what you do, like I have,

228
00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:56,880
Speaker 2: I have, I have homies, I have homegirls who they

229
00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,520
Speaker 2: Nigga told him that they love him, and then they

230
00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,160
Speaker 2: would do shit to counter that, whether it be doroverbally

231
00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,839
Speaker 2: or physically. So regardless of what I do for you

232
00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,800
Speaker 2: and whatever, regardless of what I do for you, I

233
00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,600
Speaker 2: can't just be like a shitty person to you on

234
00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,760
Speaker 2: top of that and just be like, all right, everything

235
00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,240
Speaker 2: is good, man. So I think that there are things

236
00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,120
Speaker 2: like obviously we all know, like, hey, it's cryptic. Hey

237
00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,200
Speaker 2: don't like to talk about nothing. I'm just not willing

238
00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,600
Speaker 2: to everything for me ain't content. So I'm not willing

239
00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,560
Speaker 2: to divulge like you know this nigga did this to

240
00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,920
Speaker 2: this person. And then it's just that when you're when

241
00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,840
Speaker 2: your character is not wholesome and you violate the sanctity

242
00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:39,040
Speaker 2: of certain relationships, Yes, certain people are probably gonna feel

243
00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,319
Speaker 2: a way towards you, regardless of what stimulus packet you've

244
00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,640
Speaker 2: given them in the past. It doesn't matter. So if

245
00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,600
Speaker 2: you violate the relationship, I think that, Yeah, people are

246
00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,480
Speaker 2: gonna feel a way about you, for sure. I mean,

247
00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,600
Speaker 2: that's that's a life thing away from us talking about

248
00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:53,920
Speaker 2: some of the biggest artists in the world. I think

249
00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,240
Speaker 2: that's life. I think if you have a relationship with

250
00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,080
Speaker 2: somebody and then you know, it changes, and then the

251
00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,840
Speaker 2: person starts treating you some type of way, and then

252
00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:04,240
Speaker 2: obviously emotions and feelings change. Not saying that I think

253
00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:08,240
Speaker 2: that's what happened here, But again, I do think that

254
00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:12,000
Speaker 2: some of it is. Uh. You know, if Drake doesn't,

255
00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,320
Speaker 2: you know, give me a verse, or doesn't do a

256
00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:15,880
Speaker 2: song with me, like I sent him a record that

257
00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,440
Speaker 2: he didn't send it back, but then he did an album,

258
00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,640
Speaker 2: an entire project with somebody and I still never got

259
00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,040
Speaker 2: my verse. I think that leaves room for somebody to

260
00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:29,040
Speaker 2: feel a way. I agree, But there's also so again,

261
00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,680
Speaker 2: there's more things that play here. So like, if example,

262
00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,359
Speaker 2: Rory put out an album, Let's say, Rory.

263
00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,560
Speaker 4: Want to huh available now.

264
00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:46,760
Speaker 2: On your album? Your album's out now? Okay, Roy put

265
00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,240
Speaker 2: out an album. Let's say whatever the app let's say

266
00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,880
Speaker 2: it went platinum.

267
00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:53,640
Speaker 4: I don't like that.

268
00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:53,960
Speaker 3: Laugh.

269
00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,000
Speaker 4: I like that the whole time you've been stun professional

270
00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,559
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden start laughing.

271
00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:06,280
Speaker 2: Sorry, go ahead, all right, so Rory, but it goes platinum.

272
00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,720
Speaker 2: Maul has an artist and he wants, and Maul wants

273
00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,160
Speaker 2: his artist to do a collab album with Rory. Mal

274
00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,520
Speaker 2: works out terms and spends X amount of dollars for

275
00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,680
Speaker 2: Rory to do album with him. That's music business. That

276
00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,360
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with who Rory fuck's with or

277
00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,679
Speaker 2: anything like. That's just business, right, You get what I'm saying.

278
00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,040
Speaker 2: So I think there's business, and then there's friendships, and

279
00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,839
Speaker 2: there's relationships, but there's also just sometimes it's just business, right,

280
00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,719
Speaker 2: And I think that people conflate the two because hip

281
00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,160
Speaker 2: hop is supposed to be this communal thing where everybody

282
00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,040
Speaker 2: is like jumping on shit and sharing features and stuff.

283
00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,840
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's just business. It's not bigger than that or

284
00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:49,720
Speaker 2: smaller than that. The other thing is when it could

285
00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,839
Speaker 2: be some people fill away because oh, he didn't get

286
00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,560
Speaker 2: back to me as fast as he normally would, or

287
00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,920
Speaker 2: whatever the case may be. That's I'm not saying, that's

288
00:13:55,960 --> 00:14:00,480
Speaker 2: out of the ram of possibility. However, I don't like

289
00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,680
Speaker 2: the narrative me personally, just because the things that I'm

290
00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,400
Speaker 2: aware of. I don't like the narrative that everybody's ganging

291
00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,400
Speaker 2: up on this one individual, because that's what it seems

292
00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:15,200
Speaker 2: like optically, everybody doesn't know what's going on as to why.

293
00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,560
Speaker 2: It's like, like I said this before, is it twenty

294
00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,920
Speaker 2: versus mal or did mal of Fenn twenty niggas? And

295
00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:22,560
Speaker 2: now Mall is in the room with twenty niggas and

296
00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,240
Speaker 2: they all want to fuck him up? You know what

297
00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,040
Speaker 2: I'm saying, It could be both. I think that this

298
00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:31,160
Speaker 2: particular situation was again people trying to capitalize off the moment.

299
00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:32,960
Speaker 2: They realized how big the moment was going to be,

300
00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,360
Speaker 2: and you know, people through they had in the ring,

301
00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,240
Speaker 2: like you know, if he responds to me, great, Like

302
00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,040
Speaker 2: I can put out a record, I can shoot a video,

303
00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,880
Speaker 2: I could you know, sell some tickets, I could sell

304
00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,480
Speaker 2: some merch. Like we're not gonna act like this is

305
00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,280
Speaker 2: not you know, one of the biggest moments, Like any

306
00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,240
Speaker 2: artists would love to have this moment, win or lose.

307
00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,360
Speaker 2: I think that any artist would take this moment because

308
00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:58,240
Speaker 2: what are you really losing? It's not about losing though, no,

309
00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,800
Speaker 2: but I'm just saying and the perception of losing, right right,

310
00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,120
Speaker 2: who is losing in this situation? Who has lost? What

311
00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,520
Speaker 2: has Kendrick lost? What has Drake lost? No matter what

312
00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,600
Speaker 2: side of it you're on, if you think Kendrick loss

313
00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,320
Speaker 2: or you think Drake lost, what did they really lose? Well,

314
00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,320
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that one of those parties have lost

315
00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:24,560
Speaker 2: substantial business opportunities you think, So what opportunities? I don't know.

316
00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,280
Speaker 2: I mean, it ain't my business to tell, but I'm

317
00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,600
Speaker 2: pretty sure that there have been opportunities that have not

318
00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,560
Speaker 2: come to fruition due to the nature of this entire thing,

319
00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,720
Speaker 2: the nature of the perception of him losing, or the

320
00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,760
Speaker 2: nature of what the song is.

321
00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:47,000
Speaker 4: Insinuating, could be a combination, could be, could be We'll

322
00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,680
Speaker 4: get to that part. But Mare, do you feel like

323
00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,400
Speaker 4: he's lost any business opportunities?

324
00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:52,600
Speaker 2: Drake? Yeah?

325
00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,360
Speaker 4: No, Okay, moving on. There was a rumor, but let's

326
00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,160
Speaker 4: not act like it was a rumor. It was a fact.

327
00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,160
Speaker 4: Drake and Kendrick did speak posts like that to set

328
00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:02,600
Speaker 4: up Are.

329
00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,120
Speaker 2: You concerning that? I am?

330
00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:08,440
Speaker 4: Okay, Oh, it's a podcast. We don't fact check. Drake

331
00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,080
Speaker 4: and Kendrick had a conversation prior to le sorry after

332
00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:16,960
Speaker 4: like that, where they had some light convo about what

333
00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,960
Speaker 4: the rules were going to be and how far everyone

334
00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,920
Speaker 4: was going to take this. It was a third rapper

335
00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,120
Speaker 4: involved as well, but he bowed out. And that's not

336
00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,760
Speaker 4: what today is about. What do you think those rules were?

337
00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,200
Speaker 4: And what do you think that conversation was. I like

338
00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:33,000
Speaker 4: the phrasing of that question, what do you think the

339
00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,360
Speaker 4: rules were? I appreciate that, Thank you. I don't.

340
00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:36,960
Speaker 2: I don't know.

341
00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,080
Speaker 4: I don't know what's while I'm in the turtleneck.

342
00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:44,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what I think the rules were. I

343
00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:49,520
Speaker 2: think it was maybe certain, you know, maybe family type

344
00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,200
Speaker 2: shit should be off the table, maybe uh, you know,

345
00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:57,120
Speaker 2: things like that, But I don't. I've never thought about,

346
00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,120
Speaker 2: you know, these guys being on the phone call and

347
00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,320
Speaker 2: then you know, having a discussion about rules of engagement

348
00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,200
Speaker 2: when it comes to him seeing I think, as you know,

349
00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,120
Speaker 2: as men's I think it's certain things you don't say

350
00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,200
Speaker 2: as men to each other about each other. But obviously

351
00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,359
Speaker 2: that line was crossed. So what was the conversation really about?

352
00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,040
Speaker 4: Okay, what do you think? Say the question again? What

353
00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,560
Speaker 4: do you think their conversation was? Pre battle about what

354
00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,080
Speaker 4: the rules would be? How far we're taking us?

355
00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:30,000
Speaker 2: What do I think the conversation. If the conversation happened,

356
00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,800
Speaker 2: I think that the rules were discussed as far as

357
00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:37,480
Speaker 2: a don't let's not get personal. Let's do the thing.

358
00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,640
Speaker 2: But if you if we go personal, it's gonna it's

359
00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,560
Speaker 2: gonna go it's gonna go to another level that you

360
00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,960
Speaker 2: probably don't want it to go. Okay, And then I

361
00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,960
Speaker 2: think that's if I had to choose, if I had

362
00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,920
Speaker 2: to guess, that was that's the nature of the conversation.

363
00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,880
Speaker 4: Then let me ask you this, what was your initial

364
00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,879
Speaker 4: reaction to push ups? And do you think be around

365
00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:03,439
Speaker 4: a bodyguard like Whitney was opening up the floodgates based

366
00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,959
Speaker 4: off this initial conversation that even though he didn't say

367
00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,320
Speaker 4: anything disrespectful about Whitney at that time, he did say

368
00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:10,720
Speaker 4: her name.

369
00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,960
Speaker 2: I think anytime you mentioned a name Virginia Williams, anytime

370
00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:16,960
Speaker 2: you this person, you also got to look at it.

371
00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,600
Speaker 2: You can't. It's not a one to one. There's I'm

372
00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,400
Speaker 2: a black and white individual, but there's so much nuance

373
00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:29,040
Speaker 2: to this entire thing that people consistently overlook. You could

374
00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,320
Speaker 2: look at Drake the same way as you look at

375
00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,440
Speaker 2: mal Or. You could look at where whereas people would

376
00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,200
Speaker 2: probably perceive you to be an habitual line stepper, whereas

377
00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:43,199
Speaker 2: like you consistently and egregiously encroach on this line that

378
00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,480
Speaker 2: people have set forth as that that's their comfort zone

379
00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:51,360
Speaker 2: for the things that you say. Right, same thing, this

380
00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,919
Speaker 2: person has a history of egregiously encroaching on lines that

381
00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,679
Speaker 2: you probably know are off limits to certain individuals, especially

382
00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:04,680
Speaker 2: certain people of certain ilk. Right, so I think those

383
00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,560
Speaker 2: things have to be taking accountability once you then, like

384
00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,680
Speaker 2: you said, we're all grown man, and we know that's

385
00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,720
Speaker 2: not necessarily true. I know people who can who consistently

386
00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,080
Speaker 2: encroach and don't know where the line is because they

387
00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,199
Speaker 2: didn't have big homies or older brothers or anybody to

388
00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:27,040
Speaker 2: teach them the ways of manhood. Right, So they're being said,

389
00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,600
Speaker 2: if if you you could say anything like from it

390
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,199
Speaker 2: could be whatever the line is. It doesn't even to

391
00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,480
Speaker 2: be It doesn't even have to be my wife's name,

392
00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,360
Speaker 2: my fiance's name, anything. Maul could say. We could talk

393
00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,399
Speaker 2: anybody about anything when we have this conversation. You just

394
00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,720
Speaker 2: can't mention my ear lobes, right, that's my line. You

395
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,840
Speaker 2: mentioned my ear lobes. I'm losing my shit. It's up.

396
00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,480
Speaker 2: That's his line. Though that's his choice to make. So

397
00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, fuck your ear loves woo woo. Now

398
00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:57,959
Speaker 2: I have to deal with whatever comes with that. And

399
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,479
Speaker 2: I think that's where people get lost in trans as

400
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 2: far as the line between oh, this is hip hop,

401
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,800
Speaker 2: this is sport, and this is like, no, this is

402
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 2: a real thing. That's that's that's just that's the best

403
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 2: way I can answer that.

404
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:13,439
Speaker 4: Well. Mater dj hads point. Drake has mentioned opponents girls

405
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,959
Speaker 4: in the past and it has backfired or taken a

406
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,639
Speaker 4: battle to the next level. Do you think it was

407
00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 4: smart to mention Whitney this early in the battle because

408
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,120
Speaker 4: it was just to like that verse and then push

409
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 4: ups was a reply off the twenty v one?

410
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 2: Shit?

411
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,359
Speaker 4: Was it too early to even mention Whitney at this point?

412
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,399
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't I'm not you know, I'm not

413
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,359
Speaker 2: an MC, I'm not a rapper. I don't know. You know,

414
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 2: I can't I can't speak to the mindset or the

415
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:47,720
Speaker 2: the you know, the strategy of what Drake had going

416
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:52,400
Speaker 2: into this thing. I do know that, you know, he

417
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,679
Speaker 2: was obviously very calculated, very you know, strategic, and his

418
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,159
Speaker 2: approach and his thought process of what he was going

419
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:00,439
Speaker 2: to do how he was going to do it. But

420
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:03,679
Speaker 2: I don't know if he if that if I look

421
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 2: at that like, oh it was too early too to say, Whitney,

422
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,880
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't, I don't know. I don't, I don't,

423
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 2: I don't think so again, I can't speak, you know,

424
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 2: for his mindset in that moment. But to me that

425
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 2: Barr didn't really you know, like when I when I

426
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 2: heard that, I wasn't like, oh shit, like it didn't

427
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:28,440
Speaker 2: really okay. Now heard it and been like okay. If

428
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,959
Speaker 2: they did have a conversation and he spoke about not

429
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,120
Speaker 2: mentioning you know, the family and the wife or whatever,

430
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 2: then I could see Kendrick like okay, so then all

431
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 2: bets are off. But I can't speak to if that

432
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 2: was too soon for Drake to say that.

433
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,439
Speaker 4: But given the fact both of us not being a

434
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 4: rapper's brain, I didn't think make it ring on him

435
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 4: like Virginia Williams was that crazy of a bar either.

436
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 4: But you've seen in the past that if you just

437
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 4: say a name, it allows a rapper to be like,

438
00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 4: all right, well, family's on the table now just saying

439
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,719
Speaker 4: the name, not even the bar. Is that a mistake

440
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 4: that Drake made twice.

441
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,479
Speaker 2: No, I don't think that's a mistake. I think if

442
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 2: he wanted to say something, he said it and he

443
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 2: stands by it. Those are his bars, Like you know

444
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 2: what I mean, I'm not who am I to say

445
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 2: that was a mistake, Like, I'm not. I don't think

446
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 2: that was a mistake. I just think that, you know,

447
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 2: whatever his mindset was, he had that bar, he came

448
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 2: up with it and decided, I I'm gonna say what

449
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,120
Speaker 2: I want to say, like I don't give a fuck

450
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 2: about no rules, and it is what it is.

451
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 4: What do you guys think the score was at this point?

452
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 4: From like that to push Ups?

453
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,199
Speaker 2: I don't know if I because like that to me,

454
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 2: you know, obviously it's a future record, Kendrick has a

455
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 2: verse on there. Push Ups is a record designed specifically

456
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,959
Speaker 2: for that moment at Kendrick. So I don't know if

457
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 2: I scored it. I think the like that verse was

458
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 2: when we all was like oh shit, like okay, like

459
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 2: Kendrick is, he's in. He wants to get in the ring,

460
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 2: like he wants to have this moment, which I think

461
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 2: we all felt like he's done before, and he obviously

462
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 2: wanted to have that moment for a time, I think

463
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 2: that it was more surprising for.

464
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 3: Me that.

465
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 2: Drake engaged it because he was, you know, still on

466
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 2: the road. What it was just fresh off the road,

467
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 2: I think when like that, No, he was still on

468
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 2: the road, the road, so he was still on the road,

469
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:30,679
Speaker 2: you know. I was more surprised that Drake, uh he

470
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 2: he engaged in this situation again because he had, you know,

471
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 2: all of this going on. I didn't think that he would,

472
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 2: you know, want to get off the road and go

473
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 2: right into battle more because you do have to get

474
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 2: into a different mindset to you know, get into a

475
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 2: back and forth with an MC or rapper as Kendrick.

476
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 2: You have to, you know, make sure that you're on

477
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 2: your a game. So him being on tour and then

478
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 2: getting off, I was like, I didn't think that he

479
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 2: would engage it. But I mean, I think that this

480
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 2: is something that again every rap has in the back

481
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 2: of their mind, like I'm ready for anybody, like, you know,

482
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 2: I don't care what it is. And I think that

483
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 2: that's you know, one of the things that I respect

484
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 2: about Drake is because he very well could have not

485
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 2: responded and just ignored it and have been like yo,

486
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 2: I don't even know like what this guy's issue is

487
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 2: or whatever, and you know, continue doing what he was doing.

488
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 2: But I think the MC and Drake, the rapper and

489
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: Drake was like, Yo, hold up, like you ain't coming

490
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 2: at me like that, like you know what I'm saying,

491
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 2: Like all right, you want to have this moment, let's

492
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 2: do it. So I think there's some there's some something

493
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 2: to respect about that. But again I didn't think. I

494
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 2: didn't think that he would at first, because again, his

495
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 2: mindset and where he was at wasn't nowhere near battle

496
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 2: rap mode. It was more so like you know, I

497
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 2: got you know, this this tour going, this album just

498
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 2: came out, you know, me and Cole is selling out,

499
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 2: you know, shows number one record. You know. I didn't

500
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: think that he would flip the switch and get right

501
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: into battle mode. So I was surprised that he engaged

502
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 2: in the in the battle had thoughts. I wasn't surprised,

503
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 2: but not from am or competitive standpoint, just ego. I

504
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 2: think I think ego has been the fall of the empire,

505
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 2: well part of it, but I think it was all ego,

506
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 2: bravado and miscalculation. I think it was I think I

507
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 2: think from the very beginning. Well, I don't think obviously,

508
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't count. I don't score it

509
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 2: like I don't have I don't have a score at

510
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 2: this point. I never really had a score honestly throughout

511
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 2: the whole shit. It was just like boom boom boom.

512
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 2: Uh So I wasn't scoring it. But I actually had

513
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 2: this conversation with my manager Salas. He told me, He

514
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 2: told me right after like that, he said, if he

515
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 2: responds to me to one of the worst mistakes of

516
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 2: his career. And I was like, how you know what

517
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I'm thinking, like again, I said this before,

518
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 2: but I'm thinking, like you know, r Kelly, he gonna

519
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 2: make a hit record, Everything gonna go away. What I'm saying,

520
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 2: He's gonna make a hit. He's gonna hit record himself

521
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: out of this like he does all the time. He's

522
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 2: drake he can do that. I was fucking boy, was

523
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 2: out wrong. But when you look at when you look

524
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 2: at the at the push up record, that still to

525
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 2: me is one of them things where it counts. But

526
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 2: it didn't count until it counted, until he until he

527
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 2: claimed the record. You know what I mean, Like soil

528
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 2: Drake claimed the record. Kendrick until Drake claimed the record, Yeah,

529
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: because I think academics was the only person with the record. Now,

530
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 2: as a DJ, I know how that how that is,

531
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 2: you know, like you know, flex get the record first

532
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 2: or whoever get the record first, I get the whatever.

533
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 2: I understand that, but not in this way, because in

534
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: this way it's like why are you responding or are

535
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 2: you not? And then it'd be like it's just it's

536
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 2: he became like a meme coin. He was just meming

537
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 2: all day and it was just like memes and little

538
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 2: subtle innuendos and like little it was just stupid shit

539
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 2: going on. It was goofy. So that's when I decided

540
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 2: to say something. Again, I was acting on my own,

541
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 2: but I was like, yo, like what are we doing?

542
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 2: Like what is it? You know what I mean? And

543
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 2: then because the record wasn't out and so I don't

544
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 2: think that we actually can count the record until the

545
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 2: data that came out on DSP. Now it's like, oh,

546
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 2: now this is a real record because you're claiming the

547
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 2: record as opposed to it being it could be AI,

548
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 2: it could just be some bullshit that actors doing, you know,

549
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: whatever the case. May be. So from there that's when

550
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 2: I start everything. I don't even count like that. Okay.

551
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 4: This episode is sponsored by Row Mall. Roe Sparks are

552
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 4: a two and one prescription treatment for guys who want

553
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 4: more controlled erections. I know that word makes you uncomfortable,

554
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 4: but you know, sometimes when it's time you got to act,

555
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 4: you had no idea it was even coming.

556
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, sometimes you need that push sometimes, you know,

557
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: you need to get the blood flowing.

558
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, you need to get the juices going. Row will

559
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 4: help you grow. They call me Roe Rory in the streets.

560
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 4: That's what everyone calls me. And you can't spell roll

561
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 4: without Rory. That's a fact. Yeah, every time they see me,

562
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 4: they know what Tom. It is true.

563
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 2: Rory and Road stays active in your system for thirty

564
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: six hours. Important, so sometimes you can go double over time,

565
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 2: triple over time, depending on how you feeling.

566
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I mean it doesn't make you hard like

567
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 4: right away and just walking around sticking on it. You know,

568
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 4: it only works when you're starting to feel around. So

569
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 4: even if you want to plan your date around that

570
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,959
Speaker 4: entire thing, take it early. Let it just get right

571
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 4: in that blood.

572
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 2: You find the right window.

573
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 4: Then when it's time rolling no ro connects guys with

574
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 4: a medical provider one hundred percent online so you don't

575
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 4: have to waste time in waiting rooms because that's always

576
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 4: awkward too when you win and have to tell the

577
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 4: doctor what you really hear for.

578
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: Like everybody knows, they could see it in your face.

579
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 2: They can see it.

580
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 4: If approved treatment ships directly to your door very discreetly.

581
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 4: If prescribed new sexual health patients get fifteen dollars off

582
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 4: their first order of sparks on a recurring plan, connect

583
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 4: with a provider at road dot co, slash roryan mall

584
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 4: to find out if prescription ROA sparks are right for you.

585
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 4: That's ro dot co, slash rory and mall for fifteen

586
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 4: dollars off your first order. I want to get off

587
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 4: tailor made pretty quickly, but I do want to ask

588
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 4: both of you. Was it a mistake for Drake to

589
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 4: say in tailor made call him a pedophile?

590
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: No?

591
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: Why? Because I think that that was obviously in a battle.

592
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 2: You you know what people are going to try to

593
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: weaponize against you and say about you. You know, so

594
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 2: you take that and you say go ahead. I know

595
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 2: I don't have no skeletons in my closet, Like, I

596
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: know the type of things that you're going to try

597
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 2: to say about me, so go ahead say it, like, yeah,

598
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 2: get it off, say it now. I think the issue

599
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: came in. I think what the label did with the

600
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 2: record and publishing it and you know, getting behind it,

601
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: putting money behind it. I think that's where the problem

602
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 2: came in for I don't think it was the fact

603
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 2: that Kendrick said it. I think it was the fact

604
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: that once Drake realized like, oh, this is a play

605
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: like okay, like and obviously you know we're not in

606
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: Drake's business, but he's in negotiations currently with the same label.

607
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: He probably asked for a number that not many artists

608
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: have ever been in a position to even attempt to

609
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 2: ask for. So he understood the deeper thing, like, Okay,

610
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: this is to try to devalue me at a time

611
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 2: where y'all know the business that we're sitting around handling

612
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 2: or discussing. Kendrick is a new guy in the block

613
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: with PG Lane, y'all are now behind that. Okay, cool,

614
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: there's nothing, no problem there. But I see what's happening now,

615
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 2: and I think that's where Drake felt like he didn't

616
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 2: lose the battle, he walked. The battle lost him. He

617
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: stepped away from like, oh this is a play, y'all

618
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: are trying to get you know, some some some some

619
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: data and some numbers behind this thing, Like okay, I

620
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 2: get it, Like all right, I'm done.

621
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 3: Okay, mam, well, and we'll come back to that when

622
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 3: we get to not like us he did. You want

623
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 3: to respond to that? Do you think that it was

624
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 3: a mistake that he did that?

625
00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: I don't think. I mean, I think I think every

626
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: day he did with Taylor Mane was a mistake. How

627
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 2: so dud Like I wouldn't I understand the like the

628
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 2: whole like an eight mile approach to shit. But that's

629
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,479
Speaker 2: also a rap nerds pipe dream. That's not reality, Like

630
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 2: you don't you don't go into a fight like that.

631
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: To me, that tells me that you've never been outside,

632
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 2: like I'm not. I don't go to the park to

633
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 2: fight somebody and hand them a weapon, you know what

634
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: I mean? That's just not reality to me. That's some

635
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: blog rap nerd shit, you know what I'm saying, Like

636
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: in the sense of, at this point, you've already escalated things,

637
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: so now you should probably understand that we're not. It's

638
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: not a friendly fade. Again, I've explained this that nauseum.

639
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 2: A friendly is for someone who you're friendly with. A

640
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: friendly fade, A fair wind, we call it a fair win,

641
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: is for the homie. Like we have a rapport and

642
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 2: we're gonna go we're gonna go eat after we're gonna

643
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: go outside. We're gonna run a fair wind, and then

644
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: we're gonna go eat. That's reserved for the me. When

645
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: you're an op quote unquote opposition, an enemy, whatever the

646
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,959
Speaker 2: case may be. Where how we came up, there are

647
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 2: no fair ones. You get immediately viscerated, you get packed

648
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: we call it maxed out or packed out. There is

649
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: no such thing as a friendly amongst people who are oppositions.

650
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 2: So to me, that, like I said, this, screams of

651
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: somebody who's never had those been in those environments, because

652
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,959
Speaker 2: I would not hand somebody your weapon to use against

653
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: me in the real world. Right. The second thing, well,

654
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: what if it's not a real weapon, it doesn't matter

655
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: if it's perceived as one, the cops is gonna shoot you.

656
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: If even if you have a gun in this phone case,

657
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: it don't matter they're gonna shoot you. It's a perceived weapon.

658
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 2: So we all know. We live on the internet. Perception

659
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. I mean, reality doesn't matter if the perception

660
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 2: is fucked up, right. So the second thing was the

661
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: AI shit. The song would have just been a cool

662
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: It wouldn't have been a dope rap song without the

663
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 2: act without the AI shit. Again, screaming of lack of

664
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 2: cultural awareness. Because you don't, I don't know. Maybe I

665
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: could ask you, would you ever use someone's likeness who's

666
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: currently walking around me? Yeah? No, why not? Well, I

667
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: mean me, I wouldn't. But that's why not though, and

668
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: that because I'm just I don't not it was general?

669
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 2: Why not? I mean, but I have though, I mean

670
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: I've We've done skits and things like that where I've

671
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: acted like other people with AI, not with AI, but

672
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 2: in the terms of acting and using somebody's likeness and personality,

673
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: not necessarily AI, but with that record, with the tailor

674
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 2: made record. I thought that it was a It was

675
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: a clever we First of all, we've never seen that

676
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: in that type of situation, bad or not. So I

677
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: thought it was a clever play. Everybody. It wasn't like

678
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 2: one of those records where it was like, oh, he

679
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 2: killing them, It was more so like, oh that was

680
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: kind of that was clever. It would have been even

681
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: more clever without that, because to me, again, somebody who

682
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: has respect for I don't even funk. If I don't

683
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 2: like you as an artist, I would never because I

684
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 2: have respect for hip hop. I have respect for my elders,

685
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 2: even people who don't like me as an elder in

686
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 2: the game, I would never disrespect them publicly because I

687
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 2: respect Where was the disrespect to use someone likeness without

688
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 2: their permission? Who's currently breathing? Yeah, but there wasn't. Yeah,

689
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 2: But see that's where that's where your people lose me

690
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 2: in this because yes, he used a pot Tupac's voice

691
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 2: on with a feel to use a snoop. But when

692
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 2: we say all he's using their likeness and this, that

693
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: and that that, Like Drake wasn't using that as a

694
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: single trying to get popping, and it like, that's where

695
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: I think people was just this was a moment. It

696
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: was a battle. It was like, all right, let's have

697
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 2: some fun. He's taking too long to respond. You know

698
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: what is some of the West coast, you know Mount

699
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: Rushmore's what would they say in this moment to Kendrick,

700
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 2: if they could speak to him and get him, get

701
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 2: him in a room. I think that was Drake's mindset, like, Yo,

702
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 2: we're doing this or not? Bro? Like you, you know

703
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like you you jumped out there with

704
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: the verse. Let's do it like I'm fresh tour, I'm

705
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: in the studio. I'm not sleeping them up. I'm ready

706
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: for this moment, Like what are you doing? And then obviously,

707
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: you know, the record came out, somebody made a call

708
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: to in the state. The state said to take it down,

709
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: delete the song. Okay, cool, no problem. Wasn't that serious

710
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 2: of a song. I'll deleted off my Instagram or whatever

711
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: it was it was living at It wasn't that deep.

712
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: So that's why I feel like when people are like, oh,

713
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 2: he use you know Po's likeness or use snooze likeness

714
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 2: and this that and the third, and it's like, Bro,

715
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 2: it wasn't that serious though. He wasn't trying to make

716
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: He wasn't trying to make a living off of this

717
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: song and publish it and then push it out to

718
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 2: the map, Like you understand what I'm saying. So when

719
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 2: people carry it that heavy. I'm like, bro, this was

720
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 2: a battle, Bro, this was a This was like a

721
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 2: little ten, like, Yo, what's up? Fam? Like I'm here,

722
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: I'm outside, I'm waiting for you, like what you're gonna do? Like,

723
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 2: I agree with you. But to me, even your rebuttal

724
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: screams to me that you don't understand. That's disrespectful where

725
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: we come from, where I'm from, that's disrespectful. It doesn't

726
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 2: matter what the use case is. You don't violate the

727
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 2: elders or the og. Where was the violation at though?

728
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 2: Why did they tell him to take it down? Because

729
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 2: he used somebody's likeness and their tone and their influxtions

730
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 2: and their voices. But so the violation is using someone

731
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: shit without their permission. Yeah, but again you're losing me

732
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 2: because I get what you're saying. Yes, he used the

733
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 2: AI the voice to filter. I get that part, but

734
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: it's not like he used it and was disrespecting POC

735
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 2: or Snoop. And that's what I'm telling you. You don't see.

736
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: The bigger picture is the bigger picture is those are

737
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 2: West Coast artists. Kendrick is a West Coast artist, and

738
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 2: this turned into California versus Drake, not Kendrick versus Drake. No,

739
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 2: that's the real situation. No, that's not what happened. That's

740
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 2: exactly what Kendrick turned it into. That's not what happened.

741
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: Kendrick didn't turn it into California versus Drake. You DJ

742
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 2: the PopOut Show. What are you talking about? Who used?

743
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: Who's like? So was you in Amazon? Who used? Whose likeness?

744
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: Drake and FDA? Are you saying that Dot conspired to

745
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: have Dot? I mean you're saying Dot conspired to have

746
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: Drake use those two West Coast legends, right. No, I'm

747
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: not saying no, no, no, no, no, I'm not saying Dot

748
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: had anything to do with No, no, no, I'm just listen.

749
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: You're saying that Dot turned it into California versus Drake.

750
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: That's one. But Drake used California first. He used it

751
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: in a way of saying, Yo, dog, you're taking too

752
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 2: long to drop your virtu or your record whatever you're

753
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: putting out, Like, Yo, what's up? I'm waiting Like this

754
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: is what the ogs would say, or what I think

755
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: the old g's wouldet if they could get to Kendrick.

756
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: They're like, Kendrick, we need your West Coast Savior all

757
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: of that, Like that was just fun shit, that was

758
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 2: part of the moment. But to since then have the

759
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 2: estate whoever called US state? I don't know who called

760
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 2: US state, Tupaca state. Who has to call anybody. I'm

761
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: just saying, somebody use Rory in mall and to do

762
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 2: stuff without your permission all the time to No, that's

763
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: not what I'm asking you. Are you cool with people

764
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 2: using Rory and mall Rory? Are you cool with people

765
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 2: using Rory and mall to just do whatever the fuck

766
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: they want to do?

767
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 4: No?

768
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 2: Why not?

769
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 4: It depends the light that it's put in. Okay, there's

770
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 4: plenty of stuff that goes on YouTube that will never copyright,

771
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 4: copy strike anything. If you want to use our content,

772
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 4: I'm ok. There's been times where like homophobic shit was

773
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 4: used in our likeness that we didn't feel was okay.

774
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 4: We goes with advertisers and it's different there. But as

775
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 4: far as like someone clipping this exact conversation, Nah, I'm

776
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 4: fine with that because it promotes I mean, granted, that

777
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 4: didn't promote Tupac or or snoop, so I see there's

778
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 4: not it wasn't I know. So it's a weird comparison

779
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 4: that I think Head is asking.

780
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's not I'm not I'm not comparing the two.

781
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 2: I'm simply just asking straight across because he was bringing

782
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 2: up like somebody called these state, just straight across business.

783
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: You can't even put out your album without getting clearance,

784
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: oh for sure. Yeah.

785
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 4: No, I don't think anyone needed to call Tupacs a state.

786
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 4: They could just hear it.

787
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: That's all I'm doing.

788
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 4: The lawyer that they have on retain.

789
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: I don't think nobody called Tupac or state.

790
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 4: I'll be honest. I don't know Kendrick no matter.

791
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 2: Do you think anybody did.

792
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 4: I think I think somebody probably did. I don't think

793
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 4: they had anything to do with Kendrick, but I'm not

794
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 4: in this debate.

795
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 2: Okay, So my point is Drake brought California in before

796
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 2: Dot did because he you Snoop and Pop's likeness. It

797
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 2: would have been a cool record without it, Okay, it's

798
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 2: just creatively, you have to have the bandwidth to do

799
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 2: that on your own.

800
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 4: All yeah, all right, So seventeen days passes in this era,

801
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 4: I feel like because of the Internet, people want you

802
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 4: to reply right away, and I feel like dot was

803
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 4: the one that kind of initiated this entire thing with

804
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 4: free time while Drake was on tour and then waited

805
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 4: seventeen days to put out Euphoria. Was that too long

806
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 4: in your opinion?

807
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: Ed?

808
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 4: No, not in retrospect. We're in the timeline right now.

809
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: No. Why because you don't get to dictate what I do.

810
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 4: Even if you popped everything, if you say, yo, let's fight,

811
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 4: and then now it's on your time. No, you asked

812
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 4: me to fight. Let's go fight.

813
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 2: But who said that?

814
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 4: I mean like that, I feel said that.

815
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 2: He didn't say let's fight. He said fuck that ship.

816
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: I'm this. That's like me saying I'm not anti anybody.

817
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: I'm just pro us. That's I'm not anti New York.

818
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 2: I'm just pro LA.

819
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 4: He said he wanted to kill every for every dog.

820
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 4: Oh you know what he was talking about. That was

821
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 4: wordl a long ago initiates a battle.

822
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 2: I wasn't like that. That's the end of the verse. No,

823
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: I know that. But what I'm saying is, if you

824
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 2: look at it, to me, that's that's rap. That's not

825
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 2: the same thing. Like if we if we're keeping this

826
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,959
Speaker 2: timeline that we're on right now, right whereas that song

827
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 2: comes out, then you get the response, which is the

828
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 2: Push Up record, and then this alleged conversation happens. It's like, oh,

829
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 2: this is a thing, all right, bet I'll be back.

830
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 2: You don't get to dictate when I come back.

831
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:51,439
Speaker 1: Nah.

832
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 2: I mean, had this being political and I respect that,

833
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 2: but we all know it was a play. Lucien had

834
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 2: to have a meeting about what was going to happen,

835
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 2: how it was going to happen. Absolutely, you know that

836
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 2: for a fact. I don't know. I'm just saying, yeah,

837
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: that's crazy.

838
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 4: So also, do you know do you not see that

839
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 4: that could be something that would happen in the building

840
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 4: that's not after we've engaged like that has come out.

841
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: And push You don't think that there was no talks

842
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 2: with anybody at Universal about what Kendrick was about to

843
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 2: do at any point in this in this battle. You

844
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 2: don't think that Kendrick had a conversation with anybody about

845
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 2: his plans, what he was going to do, how they

846
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 2: wanted to do it. You don't think you think all

847
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 2: of this was just Kendrick with his whoever he's in

848
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: the studio with, and they would deciding what they wanted to.

849
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: Do you think he didn't have a single conversation with

850
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: the label? Do I think that? I don't. I don't

851
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 2: think so. You don't think he had one conversation. I

852
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 2: don't think so.

853
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 4: Okay, once you four your drops had I know you

854
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 4: had said earlier you didn't think he was plotting whatsoever.

855
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 4: But there was rumors that he had rights for four years. Again, rumors.

856
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 4: I have no idea. Euphoria did speak a bit to

857
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 4: some stuff on push ups. But was that a record

858
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 4: in your opinion, that had been halfway done for quite

859
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 4: some time?

860
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 2: No, I think it's I think you have ideas. I

861
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 2: don't think the record has been done forever. I think

862
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: you have ideas. It's like, oh, if I get into

863
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: it with this artist, here's some things, here's some some

864
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 2: bullet points, Like we've all moderated and hosted shit right,

865
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 2: So me personally, my personal hosting style is I go

866
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: like I'm doing a I'm going to calsate North Fridge

867
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: next or next week to speak. I don't know what

868
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, but I have bullet points of ideas

869
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: and then that's my best way of communication because I

870
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: want my thoughts to always be authentic. That's why I

871
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 2: don't have no prep sheets. I didn't come here with like, hey,

872
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: we can't talk about this. You know, you know what

873
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 2: I mean, because I'm best when I'm just being real

874
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 2: and authentic. So I think these are ideas that he

875
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: might have had. But I don't think there was any records.

876
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 2: I mean there were probably there probably were some bars

877
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 2: in songs, but I don't think there was a U

878
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 2: four done four years ago.

879
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 4: Now, okay, follow up on that. Do you think anything

880
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 4: on euphoria landed at this point in the battle April thirtieth? Yeah,

881
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 4: what do you think landed?

882
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 2: I like the DMX callback that's a personal fan favorite

883
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 2: of mine. The hate the way you walk and stuff

884
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 2: like that. That because it was just funny. It was

885
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: too It was a moment that was funny. And I

886
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 2: like humor. But you like humor unless you using pox

887
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: and snoops likeness. That's not humorous. To me. That's respect.

888
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 2: I don't find disrespect humorous. So there was another part

889
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 2: where you don't find this way. Wait, hold up, you

890
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: don't find disrespect human? You DJ the pope? That was

891
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 2: based on disrespect? Was it? What we're not doing this?

892
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 2: We not doing you. My god, we're not doing this.

893
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 2: What you don't find disrespect humorous? All you niggas were

894
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 2: shaking y'all ass is on that Amazon stage. I rebuke

895
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: that in the name of I don't shake my ass.

896
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: I don't shake as I mean. You wasn't twirking, but

897
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: you was.

898
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 3: You was.

899
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: You had a two step behind the turntable. We're not

900
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: doing that. Yeah, but that's not gyrating ass. All right,

901
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 2: Well you was jih rating. Maybe not your ass, but

902
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 2: you was gyrating. Yeah, okay, what was I saying?

903
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 3: The lines that hit from Euphoria? You had your turn.

904
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 3: We're gonna ask the mall, now, mall, were there any

905
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 3: lines objectively that you think struck a nerve from Euphoria?

906
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 2: I honestly can't remember Euphoria like the ball, And I'm

907
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 2: being serious, I really I really can't remember. I can't

908
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 2: quote a single ball from Euphoria right now. Hey, yeah,

909
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 2: I'm being I'm being deadert. If you have a line

910
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: that y'all can give me an example of, I would

911
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: I would love to talk about it, but I really

912
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 2: cannot think of a line.

913
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 4: Okay, So the answer is no, you don't think anything

914
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 4: landed at all landed and mean like that that affected

915
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 4: because I mean we're eventually.

916
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: Going what you for the one about his dad or.

917
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 4: No, no, that's me the grams?

918
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 2: Which one is you for? You?

919
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 4: The I mean it's one of the longer records. It's

920
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 4: the it's when he gets into Toronto ship Crodi that one. Yeah,

921
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 4: I don't think it was that impression. Fuck y'all.

922
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't think none of that landed and Crodi?

923
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 4: Yeah that one. When I say you dancing with sexy Red,

924
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 4: I believe you see too bad? Bitch?

925
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 3: Is the what is the prase? Like the things that

926
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 3: were addressed in Euphoria? Do you think that they hit

927
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 3: at all? Whether to Drake personally or to his image?

928
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 3: Do you think that they Do you think that it

929
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 3: made anybody go, oh, he has to respond to this?

930
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 2: No? I mean I don't think it was that. I

931
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: think people just felt like Drake had to respond, just

932
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: as you know, as a rapper, you you hope you

933
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: stand behind your pen and your balls. So I think

934
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 2: people felt like Drake had to respond no matter what

935
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 2: Kendrick said. But I don't know if it was anything

936
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: in Euphoria where Drake was in you know, wherever he

937
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 2: was at like like getting mad, like oh, like he

938
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: said that, like it's on now. I don't think it

939
00:45:59,239 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 2: was any of that.

940
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 4: I don't I mean from Drake's perspective. I think just

941
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 4: because everything played out on the timeline and the court

942
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 4: of public opinion is really what's at stake with battles

943
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,959
Speaker 4: at this point. More so, did that affect anything because

944
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 4: I think a lot of points were brought up with

945
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 4: push ups and Drake talking about Kendrick contract and stuff

946
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 4: that maybe we didn't know before. That's more what I'm

947
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 4: saying with euphoria.

948
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but people don't care about facts.

949
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 4: We will get to that as well. Yeah. Three days later,

950
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 4: six sixteen, LA comes out Kendrick wrapped. Have you ever

951
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 4: thought that Ovio was working for me? If that is true,

952
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 4: do you guys know who that person was? Because this

953
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 4: has been probably the most debated thing during that week

954
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 4: of who.

955
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 2: The mole was? That Kendrick has a mole in Ovio?

956
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 4: Yes, they were going through boy wonders so security his

957
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 4: mom's address.

958
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 2: I think that that was just a tactic from Kendrick

959
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 2: of divide and concer, just plant the seed of you know,

960
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 2: start to get Drake to walk around his camp and

961
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 2: start looking. Anybody would have raised Oberat like is it you?

962
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 2: I don't think that was a real thing though. I

963
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 2: don't think nobody from Ovio was working for Kendrick.

964
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 4: And we'll get to Hard part six, but I do

965
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 4: want to counter your point. He did say he sent

966
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 4: somebody to get information on Drake. No, he had said

967
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 4: that he had placed the information about the daughter, which

968
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 4: we'll all we also get to. But Drake did admit

969
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 4: in Hard part six that he had placed the mole

970
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 4: that Kendrick was talking about was actually placed by Drake

971
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 4: in there double agent. Yeah, oh, Jason Bourne.

972
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 2: Shit, I don't know. I don't know how true that is.

973
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 4: But what do you think?

974
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I think a lot of things was said

975
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 2: in jest. I think a lot of things was for entertainment.

976
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure Drake did send some false information Kendrick's way.

977
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 2: How did he send it, how who he sent it with?

978
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 2: I can't speak to that, but I'm pretty sure he

979
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 2: sent some some some fake work. He sent the fake

980
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: brick in the mail.

981
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 3: Had you have any response to this? Do you think

982
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 3: that there was a mole or do you have confirmation

983
00:47:58,560 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 3: that there was?

984
00:47:58,960 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 4: Indeed? A male.

985
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: I wouldn't necessarily call it that. A mole indicates espionage.

986
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 4: MM, explain and spell it.

987
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: That's what what is it spelling?

988
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 4: Me?

989
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 2: No, only take you spelled espionage? You spell it first?

990
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 2: Me E, S, P I O and A ge. Okay,

991
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 2: you want me to go? Do you think you're sitting

992
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 2: across We're not doing this. You my god, We're not

993
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 2: gonna do it. I'm not doing it, all right? Cool?

994
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 2: I And I don't even know if I spelled it right,

995
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 2: but I appreciate.

996
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 3: The conflience you did had, even if you don't think

997
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 3: that there was a mole, because you keep you keep

998
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 3: hearkening back to the fact that none of this was

999
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 3: plotted or pre planned. Do you think that there was

1000
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 3: indeed someone from the O v O camp that was

1001
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 3: providing information that Drake would have rather not been provided,

1002
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 3: that Drake would have rather not gone out.

1003
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 4: Do you think that that happened.

1004
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 2: I wouldn't necessarily say from the O v Old camp.

1005
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 4: Mm hmm, an affiliate maybe perhaps just an ov an

1006
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 4: Oh maybe if you remember, if you go back a

1007
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 4: little bit in timeline, when the pushups record dropped, I'm

1008
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 4: the one who announced that it was dropping in thirty minutes,

1009
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 4: and this was the leaked version or the this version.

1010
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 2: I said that it will be on DSPs in thirty minutes.

1011
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 4: Okay, And again the version that leaked or the version

1012
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 4: that ended up.

1013
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 2: Being an official song, I'm the one who said it'll

1014
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 2: be on It'll be on DSPs in thirty minutes, okay.

1015
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 4: So that's my answer, fair, And I'm going to ask

1016
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 4: a follow up, but you probably won't answer. Do you

1017
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 4: think the person that told you that was the person

1018
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 4: that was working with both sides? No, there was more

1019
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 4: than one moment, so it was a yes, okay, fucking

1020
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 4: with you? Moving on, all right? So family Matters drops

1021
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 4: the exact same day, Maul. You posted a red button

1022
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 4: as well, Drake on his story Mart Do you think

1023
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 4: that Dave free Bar was the nuke that Drake thought

1024
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 4: it was?

1025
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: No, I don't think that Drake thought that was a nuke.

1026
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 4: That Bar he had set on red button on the

1027
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 4: Scary Hours Deluxe with for all the dogs that he

1028
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 4: could hit the red button, Everyone's going to Heaven. So

1029
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 4: we were all anticipating that this red button was going

1030
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 4: to be something that was going to blow all of

1031
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,720
Speaker 4: our fucking minds. Do you think that that red button

1032
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 4: was as effective as Drake may have thought it was?

1033
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 2: And now I think you were just attaching that red

1034
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 2: button to anything at this point. But I think that

1035
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: because for all, the dogs came out way before any

1036
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 2: of us even transpired. I don't think that the day

1037
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 2: Free Bar was a was a bar that Drake was

1038
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 2: like hanging on, like, oh this is gonna be the

1039
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 2: one that I don't think it was that. But if

1040
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 2: you go back and listen to Family Matters, I think

1041
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 2: that to this day, I still believe that that's a

1042
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 2: better record than not like US. I believe he rapped

1043
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 2: better or not like US. I believe the production is

1044
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 2: better than not like US. I think Drake's the only

1045
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,240
Speaker 2: thing I would have done differently looking back, I would

1046
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 2: have cut that brick in three. I wouldn't have released

1047
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 2: all three of the beat changes at once. I would

1048
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 2: have released the first one ended with the gunshots, wait

1049
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,919
Speaker 2: to see what Kendrick does if he takes too long,

1050
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 2: maybe released the second one. I would have done that.

1051
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: But if we go back now that it's all you know,

1052
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: said and done is you know, and just listen to bars.

1053
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 2: And I was talking to I've spoken to a lot

1054
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 2: of rappers and artists that make music at a high level,

1055
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 2: and without even bringing it up, they say, like Drake

1056
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 2: may have in the perception of people, may have lost

1057
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: the strategy game, but as far as the better bars

1058
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 2: and music, not like us, it's not better and family matters.

1059
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 4: He would you agree with that?

1060
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 2: He's from He's from Carson, he can't disagree with it,

1061
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 2: or I just go outside.

1062
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, since this was gonna be a post battle question,

1063
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 4: but let's ask it now, since Maul did bring it up.

1064
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 4: Who out rapped too?

1065
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 3: Not?

1066
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 4: Who out impact too? Who had the better strategy? Who

1067
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 4: had the better bars? In this entire battle?

1068
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 2: I stay on my side of the line of scrimmage.

1069
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 2: He got to he gotta check from the pop off show.

1070
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 2: I don't have to. Yes, you do. You can't go

1071
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 2: against that. I could do whatever I want to do. No,

1072
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: you can't go against Kendrick. You can't do that. And

1073
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 2: I'm not mad at you. I fuck with you. I'm

1074
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 2: not mad at you. But you can't sit there and

1075
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 2: objectively say nah, I don't think that you know I

1076
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 2: would if that's what I thought Drake. Drake out wrapped

1077
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 2: him and I'm talking about the fuck me saying it.

1078
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 2: Some of the rappers that you've played their records in respect,

1079
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 2: I've had conversations with them, and they like you. Kendrick

1080
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 2: may have got the strategy and the perception of him

1081
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 2: dropping right after Family Matters and all of that cool,

1082
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 2: But if you just go and listen to Bars as

1083
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 2: an MC and as a rapper, there's no way you

1084
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 2: think Kendrick. I don't even think Kendrick was trying to

1085
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 2: really rap on Not Like Us. I think he it

1086
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 2: was a song. He was trying to get people to dance.

1087
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 2: He needed to galvanize the West coast, get the whole

1088
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 2: California behind this song. This is like our new anthem,

1089
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 2: which is I'm not mad at that that strategy, but

1090
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 2: we're not gonna say he raped better than Drake on

1091
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 2: Not like Us Versus Family Matters.

1092
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 3: No fucking so, Maul bringing that up when you're referencing

1093
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 3: that and everybody else that you're referring to, are you

1094
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 3: talking about just not like Us versus Family Matters? Are

1095
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 3: you talking about Kendrick versus Drake in the entirety of

1096
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 3: all of these songs.

1097
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 4: Because also at this point, Family matters was really again

1098
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 4: to meet the Grahams and.

1099
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 2: That family matters and Hart part six, Drake is rapping

1100
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 2: better than anything Kendrick put up in that moment, just rapping. Absolutely.

1101
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 2: I aspire to have this level of He's still on

1102
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 2: the impact of a song. He's talking about a song.

1103
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 2: I'm talking about bars, I'm talking about lyrics, I'm talking

1104
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 2: about rhyme. I'm talking about and I like us. The

1105
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 2: production is not even dope.

1106
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,919
Speaker 3: Okay, So Mal, you keep bringing up not like Us had?

1107
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 3: What do you think that not like Us as Kendrick's

1108
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 3: best rapped song in all of this battle, Which one

1109
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 3: would you pick out of all of them?

1110
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:30,280
Speaker 2: Euphoria? Okay, I don't even remember that song. It's probably

1111
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 2: just probably a lot of bars too confusing. No, it's

1112
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 2: just it's just like when you open a bag of chips,

1113
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 2: it's a lot of the air at the top and

1114
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 2: it's a few chips in there. But we ain't gonna

1115
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 2: go back to that.

1116
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 4: Had you being the coast guard and having some relationship

1117
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 4: with everybody in that camp and around that camp, what

1118
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 4: was everyone's reaction to the Dave free Bar.

1119
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 2: Comedy. It was just it was like, that's that's that's

1120
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 2: that's the that's the well. Actually there was two. There

1121
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 2: was two reactions. One from the music from the front

1122
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 2: facing standpoint like that we all had internally it was

1123
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 2: like that's why, that's that's not even a good attempt,

1124
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 2: like that's so sorry, that's like a lazy attempt at something.

1125
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 2: And then the second thing was from the homies, what

1126
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 2: about Kendrick saying you have a daughter? That wasn't a

1127
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 2: lazy attempt? What about it? That wasn't a lazy atten?

1128
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 2: From Kendrick saying that Drake has a daughter that he's hiding.

1129
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, do we have one? You don't know

1130
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 2: if that was a lazy attempt? I'm actually do you

1131
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 2: think that was a lazy attempt? No, you don't. Why?

1132
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 2: And do you think Drake is hiding a daughter? Hiding

1133
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 2: is a verb? Okay? Do you think Drake has a daughter?

1134
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 4: You are hiding your opinions?

1135
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? Do you think Drake has a daughter? I think

1136
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,919
Speaker 2: it's possible. Okay, you think it's possible that you think

1137
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 2: that Drake has a daughter? Or do you think it's

1138
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 2: possible Drake has a daughter? I think it's possible as well.

1139
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean, I don't particularly care to get into

1140
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 4: Kendrick's personal life with his girl kids and his business partner.

1141
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 4: But do you see Maul's point in some degree that

1142
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 4: saying Dave Free might be your son's father. I agree

1143
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 4: it is lazy, And I thought if that was the

1144
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 4: new that's odd, because that's not No one's really gonna

1145
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 4: believe that, even if for some weird reason it was true.

1146
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 4: The daughter thing, is that not lazy because Push already

1147
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 4: did it and we saw what that did. And you're

1148
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 4: supposed to be light gears ahead of any rapper right now,

1149
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 4: and you're reusing the same strategy off something that can't

1150
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,240
Speaker 4: be proven, whereas Pushed did it and it was proven.

1151
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 2: No, I get that point, but you also have to understand,

1152
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 2: like the way I'm looking at it, and this is

1153
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 2: I mean, you're not gonna believe me, but objectively looking

1154
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 2: at it, it's a Floyd maywe Ever thing. Like God

1155
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 2: has been counterpunching the whole time. He's not aggressed. The

1156
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 2: only time he aggressed is once it was already fully on,

1157
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So if you think about

1158
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 2: it like that he aggressed, care you talking about if

1159
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 2: you think about it when you say, like the Dave

1160
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 2: Free thing came first and family matters correct, and then

1161
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 2: there was a response, and then the other thing came.

1162
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 2: It wasn't like it's like oh okay, boom boom. It

1163
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 2: was like a one for one to me.

1164
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 4: Okay, so you are and I'm asking because we think

1165
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 4: that the Dave Free line was a lie that gave

1166
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 4: Kendrick also a green light to lie about the Doughter hypothetically,

1167
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 4: because we do not know these people and their personal

1168
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 4: lives like that.

1169
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean sure, so it doesn't.

1170
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 4: You don't get a point taken away if you do

1171
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 4: a whole third verse about something that's completely unproven and

1172
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 4: possibly fed as information to you to give you the

1173
00:57:59,040 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 4: okie dog.

1174
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 2: Well no, even okay, let's do it this way. Let's

1175
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 2: take it out. Let's take the whole verse out. There's

1176
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 2: a record still I love I love the record. I

1177
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 2: don't like the record at all on no level. I've

1178
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 2: listened to it a total of maybe five times, and

1179
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 2: I told him that I don't like the record.

1180
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 4: What don't you like about it?

1181
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 2: It's too fucking it's dark, and it makes it makes

1182
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 2: me uncomfortable. I'm I'm a I'm a jovial like I'm

1183
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 2: a nerd and I'm like cerebral, but I'm a jovial

1184
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 2: individually have good positive frequencies. I don't like that ship.

1185
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 2: I don't like the depth and dark like ship. That

1186
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 2: ain't my That ain't my bag. So I told him

1187
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 2: that that's one of my that's like my least favorite

1188
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 2: record out of everything.

1189
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 4: May do you think Meet the Grams even based off

1190
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 4: your opinion of the record, because even had said he

1191
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 4: doesn't really like it like that, do you feel like

1192
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 4: it was effective off Drake's probably best record in this

1193
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 4: entire beef No why.

1194
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 2: I mean, people don't even really talk about Meet the Grams.

1195
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 2: It's not even a song that people I think, like

1196
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 2: Head said, I think most people kind of forget that

1197
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 2: record like we get it. He dropped it right after,

1198
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 2: you know, and the timing of it when he dropped

1199
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 2: it was like, oh shit, you know, everybody's running back

1200
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 2: and forth to YouTube. Kendrick just dropped and this's whatever.

1201
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 2: But I think when you go back and listen to it,

1202
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 2: it's probably the least favorite for most people.

1203
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 4: Fair But do you think if family matters being the

1204
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 4: disrecord that it is had more time to breathe, it

1205
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 4: would have been more effective in this battle, whereas meet

1206
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 4: the Grams to not Like Us back to back after

1207
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 4: I think Drake's best diss record ever Family Matters. Yes,

1208
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 4: do you think that that was an effective step on

1209
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 4: when it came to Drake's best effort?

1210
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 2: No, I mean, no matter what Kendrick said or put out,

1211
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 2: I thought the timing of it was dope. It's kind

1212
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 2: of like, if you know, you know, ahead of you

1213
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 2: DJing and somebody bump your table and fuck up your

1214
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 2: your needle and the record jump, the energy is completely

1215
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 2: different in the room at the party. So I think

1216
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 2: that's what Kendrick did. He bumped the needle, the record jumped,

1217
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 2: and was kind of like, okay, people kind of like,

1218
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 2: you know, but not only the record jump, My record

1219
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 2: comes on, you know what I'm saying. So I thought

1220
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 2: the time and I thought the strategy of what Kendrick

1221
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 2: did to me was dope, Like, Okay, I get it,

1222
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 2: but again, I'm going back just as a music head,

1223
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 2: as a consumer of hip hop and listening to bars

1224
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 2: and raps, and once I listened to that, I don't

1225
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 2: care when the record dropped how it dropped in the moment,

1226
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 2: I understand, you know, the impact of that. But now

1227
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 2: that I'm just listening to bars and raps, nobody can

1228
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 2: convince me that Drake got out wrapped in this thing. Like,

1229
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 2: there's no fucking way he got out wrapped. Now, I

1230
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 2: understand what the optics of the record is and it

1231
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 2: being big and everything that Kendrick got off of that,

1232
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 2: the Amazon show and the super Bowl halftime and things

1233
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 2: like that. I understand that part of it. And like

1234
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 2: I had said earlier, optics is a big part of it.

1235
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 2: Perception is a big part of it. Again, I'm just

1236
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 2: a consumer of hip hop and rap and listening to music,

1237
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 2: and then me listening to it, there's nobody that can

1238
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 2: convince me that Drake had the worst bars in this

1239
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 2: whole thing.

1240
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 4: Okay, mall hearkening back to family matters.

1241
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 2: Parken Spell, which you are.

1242
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,919
Speaker 3: Mal Do you think domestic abuse allegations are too far

1243
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 3: in a battle, especially if they're unproven?

1244
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 2: Do I think domestic abuse allegations in a battle are

1245
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 2: too far, unproven, unproven.

1246
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 4: Unproven, Yes, I think everyone can say proven domestic violence

1247
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 4: is fair in a battle.

1248
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 2: Maybe, Yeah, I guess I think that anything you start

1249
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 2: talking about, you know, when you start talking about somebody's

1250
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 2: family and things like that may be a line that

1251
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 2: may be too far. But then again, this is rap

1252
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 2: hip hop. But I don't think that there's any line

1253
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 2: as far as calling somebody a pedophile. I think that's

1254
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 2: the worst thing you can put on anybody's set.

1255
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 4: We're gonna ge I'll get to that. But how do

1256
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 4: you think that domestic violence allegations are okay? A Rabbitt,

1257
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 4: it's nuanced to define nuance in this situation.

1258
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 2: It depends on what the line is and what and

1259
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 2: where and what the rules of engagement are.

1260
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 4: Drake. I think directly said that Kendrick had beat his girl.

1261
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 2: Then to me, then was it warranted?

1262
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 4: I don't know, Jez, I don't know.

1263
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1264
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 4: Do you think you think I'm proven domestic violence is

1265
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 4: okay to put?

1266
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 2: I think anything is okay as long as both parties

1267
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 2: are cool with with the outcome, Like you know, how

1268
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 2: like the van be like, hey, let's meet up and die. Yeah,

1269
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 2: if both of you are cool with dying, No, I'm

1270
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 2: just saying like.

1271
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 4: No, I get your point.

1272
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 2: Me and you are okay with dying, then nothing. Talking

1273
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 2: to the table you know what I'm saying. It's only

1274
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 2: a problem if one party disagrees to the terms.

1275
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 4: Okay, With that said, do you think Drake is a pedophile?

1276
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 2: Do I think he's a what?

1277
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 4: Do you think Drake is a pedophile?

1278
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 2: By definition? No? Okay, by what? So not by definition,

1279
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 2: but by what? Because it sounds like you think he's

1280
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 2: a pedophile by something that's not what I said. I said.

1281
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 2: It sounds like that's not what I said. I don't

1282
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 2: take credit for anything I don't say. Okay, So you

1283
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 2: don't think Drake is a pedophile by the definition of

1284
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 2: a pedophile rerect Okay.

1285
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 4: Okay, I hate this is just going to demonetize us immediately,

1286
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 4: and it's going to make my algorithms crazy. The definition

1287
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 4: of pedophile is sexual perversion in which children are the

1288
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 4: preferred sexual object. I'm going to close my laptop and

1289
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 4: right here.

1290
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 2: And and the defined and the definitive definition of a

1291
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 2: child is what uh all right?

1292
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 4: See, don't don't whack one hunting me Where you know

1293
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 4: the age of consent in every state? I think, I

1294
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 4: think answer we also know, as like moral fiber, what

1295
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 4: a kid is and what a kid is? The answer

1296
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 4: is no, okay, okay, and I believe you did answer it.

1297
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 4: And if everyone's ready to die, everything's off the table.

1298
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 4: But you think pedophilia is okay to be brought up.

1299
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 2: In a battle, I think once, if I do discuss

1300
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 2: with you, hey, let's this is a line my ear

1301
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 2: loves are off limits, and I violate the sanctity of that.

1302
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 2: Let's meet up and die. Okay, on what he just said,

1303
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 2: I mean, you know that's fair if he if he

1304
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 2: feels like you know, again, if there was a conversation

1305
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 2: and you know, certain things were deemed off limits, if

1306
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 2: somebody violates, you know, the terms of the conversation, I

1307
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 2: think all bets are off there's no rules of engagement.

1308
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 2: Everything is, you know, fair game. I just think you

1309
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 2: know just where your I think your moral compass kicks

1310
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 2: in at some point, and it's just certain things. I

1311
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 2: just certain energies I just wouldn't invite into, you know,

1312
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 2: my music and things like that. And I just think

1313
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 2: you know, just that it is something that I just

1314
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 2: would never throw around unless it was absolutely definitively true

1315
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 2: like then. But if not, I don't think you play

1316
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 2: with that word at all. I think that's the difference though,

1317
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 2: what the nuance of the nuance of I want to say,

1318
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 2: like cultural prowess, right, and like people who don't understand

1319
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 2: certain things. Here's my thing had not to cut you off.

1320
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 2: If Kendrick again, I've never had a conversation with Kendrick

1321
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 2: about any of this shit. But if he feels like

1322
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 2: Drake is indeed a pedophile, how long did he feel

1323
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 2: like that? How long did he, you know, think Drake

1324
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 2: was a pedophile? And why has he done music with

1325
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 2: somebody he thinks is a pedophile. No, I'm not saying,

1326
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:53,919
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you're telling you an answered. I would

1327
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 2: just say to me, it's just like if we know,

1328
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 2: you know, we come from start area, we see, you know,

1329
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 2: he's a We didn't even play with that word because

1330
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 2: where we're from, we know what happens to those type

1331
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 2: of people. We see people creating content online or meeting

1332
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 2: up with people that's trying to meet up with kids

1333
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 2: and have sex, beat them up, you know whatever. So

1334
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 2: in this battle to introduce that energy against someone, and

1335
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 2: you don't know if it's facts or not, you may

1336
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 2: just feel like it is for whatever reasons, whatever conversations

1337
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 2: you're privy to My thing is, how long did you

1338
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 2: feel like that? I get what you said, you know

1339
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like, let me ask ma All a question. Yeah,

1340
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 2: Mall is beefing with Joe Budden. What's off limits? What's

1341
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 2: off limits? What's off limits? What? Nothing is off limits?

1342
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 2: Nothing is off limits? Yeah, so let's meet up and die. Yeah? Okay,

1343
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 2: So by that standard, then you can't say, well, that

1344
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 2: goes against my moral compass. And like you just said,

1345
01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 2: nothing is off limits, right, So that's what that You're right,

1346
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 2: and I understand that. But when it comes to that,

1347
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 2: and we both have children, right, so we can at

1348
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 2: one point in our lives be ready to die and

1349
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 2: crash out. We'll burn all this shit down. But now

1350
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 2: when we're fathers and we have children, we don't think

1351
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 2: the same anymore, we don't speak the same anymore. We

1352
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 2: look at life totally different. We're more, you know, we're

1353
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 2: different versions of what we used to be. Because again,

1354
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 2: you have children, and you understand how sacred that is,

1355
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 2: and you know how precious children are. So yeah, we

1356
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 2: could be in this situation where we ready to go

1357
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 2: all out, but at some point you got to be like, nah,

1358
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 2: I ain't doing that though, you just brought up kids

1359
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 2: who brought the kids up? First, No, I understand what

1360
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 2: you're saying in the timeline of things, understand what you're saying,

1361
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 2: but even in now, you don't get the right to

1362
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 2: dictate anything beyond that point. I'm not trying to dictate

1363
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 2: shit saying. At some point you have to say, all right,

1364
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 2: what I'm saying is the worst thing you could say

1365
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 2: about somebody, That better be a fact because once you

1366
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 2: do that, once you label somebody that, again, we somebody

1367
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 2: caught somebody a rat. We know what happened. What can

1368
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 2: happen when you just caut somebody a snitch coming from

1369
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 2: cars and coming from New York, we know what happened.

1370
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 2: A pedophile is worse than all of that shit. Okay,

1371
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 2: So when you label a man that, I would just

1372
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 2: think that you would have to be one thousand percent

1373
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 2: correcting what you're saying and have facts on that before

1374
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 2: you throw it out there. And I do understand there's

1375
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 2: no rules. Once you say, oh, you know, my manager

1376
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 2: might be my kid's father. Cool disrespectful? So no, no, no,

1377
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 2: not disrespectful. Again, you're trying to mitigate how one perceives

1378
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 2: that this respect. You don't have the privilege of doing that.

1379
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 2: If I tell somebody, if I walk outside right now

1380
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 2: and that's somebody smdh, I have to be ready for whatever.

1381
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 2: I can't be like, oh I got a kid, and

1382
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 2: you got a kid, let's think about it. Oh no,

1383
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:15,640
Speaker 2: Drake was ready for them. Obviously he's the one that

1384
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 2: said so. Then at that point there's no more discussion.

1385
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 2: Let's meet up and die. I get that, But here's

1386
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 2: the problem is now. The problem is now when this

1387
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 2: is the record that you are like grand standing and

1388
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 2: this is a message that you are displaying to the world,

1389
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 2: like you know what I mean, Like you got your

1390
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 2: Super Bowl show, and you got the Amazon show and

1391
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 2: how you're doing stadiums and things like that, and this

1392
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 2: is the record that is like you know, that's where

1393
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 2: to me, it's like, Okay, I just made a better

1394
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,560
Speaker 2: record than you. If that's the line you want to

1395
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 2: stand on, cool, I'm not listening. It's a battle. We

1396
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 2: pick sides. Who you think one who you think lost great.

1397
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 2: I'm just saying now that all of that is kind

1398
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 2: of like over, well, would you feel the same way

1399
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 2: your family matters became not like us? Is about the

1400
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 2: line of Dave Free being he performing at the Super

1401
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 2: Bowl claiming that my kids ain't his kids ain't his.

1402
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 2: But I've said that, I've said, I was like, yo,

1403
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 2: he better have some information we don't have, because that's

1404
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 2: crazy to put on. That's not what I ask you.

1405
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 2: What I asked you is do you feel the same

1406
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 2: way if family matters becomes what not? Like us is? Yeah,

1407
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:26,600
Speaker 2: absolutely all right. No, my moral compass is set to

1408
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 2: where it's set to. It's certain things to me that

1409
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 2: I'm just like, all right, Like you're gonna say that,

1410
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 2: you got to stand on that. So you being from

1411
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 2: where you're from and me being from where I'm from,

1412
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,919
Speaker 2: we have a certain level of I call it texture,

1413
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 2: which I don't necessarily know how to describe it. You

1414
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 2: can tell when somebody is not authentically of that texture

1415
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 2: because they texture. You come from a certain environment where

1416
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 2: you operate in a certain space, old code of conduct

1417
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 2: for instance. And I've spoken this like, that's why I

1418
01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 2: don't That's why I conduct myself a certain way. I

1419
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 2: can't get on the internet, on the radio, on television

1420
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 2: and just crash out. I can't say what I want.

1421
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 2: That's another gripe I have. We can get to that later.

1422
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 2: But I can't just say whatever I want because I

1423
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 2: have people that if certain, if certain people call my phone,

1424
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 2: I have to answer the phone like there's no, there's no,

1425
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 2: like I have checks and balances, because I don't get

1426
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 2: the freedom to just say whatever the fuck I want

1427
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 2: to say because I represent too many or certain places

1428
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 2: and people and individuals who look to me as a

1429
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 2: representation of them. It's not just about me, and so

1430
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 2: that's a different level of respect tenfold. There's another thing

1431
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 2: called and this is why I mean, I'm not gonna

1432
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna pick on y'all. But there's two things

1433
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 2: which I was which I talked to Elliott about before.

1434
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 2: One is called journalistic integrity. I'm like, I'm a professional

1435
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 2: broadcast I come from professional broadcasting, right, so we have

1436
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 2: to learn journalistic integrity, like more Rory Maye. I know

1437
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 2: he was joking, but like, yo, we don't fact check here.

1438
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 2: That brings up the second point of contention, which is

1439
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,759
Speaker 2: called libel, which I'm pretty sure like Benner is familiar

1440
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 2: with it. Whatever libel is when you say or do

1441
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 2: things that are false or disinformation, misinformation that can lead

1442
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:13,879
Speaker 2: to you being sued. Tasha K Right so I conduct

1443
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 2: myself in a manner in which I always have those

1444
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 2: three things in the back of my mind at all times.

1445
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 2: I don't get the luxury of just freestyling speech and

1446
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 2: shit like that. So that being said, when you look

1447
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 2: at like your moral compass is set a certain way,

1448
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 2: mine is set a certain way. You can look at

1449
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 2: certain individuals and how they move throughout the game. It

1450
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 2: doesn't even have to be Drake. It could be other

1451
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 2: media personalities or streamers or right artists or whatever. You

1452
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 2: can tell who never had to go to the park

1453
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 2: or never had to catch your frame or never had

1454
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:45,600
Speaker 2: to answer their phone. Absolutely, you can tell those individuals

1455
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 2: right in fact, So you can't be like, say, you

1456
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 2: can't make an accusation like Rory fathered mass kids and

1457
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 2: just because my record wasn't bigger than yours, be like, well,

1458
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 2: you can't say that about me on your record. No,

1459
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 2: we meet up and we're met up, and he didn't say,

1460
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 2: he didn't say he followed the kids. He said I

1461
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 2: heard he might. I understand that, but the insinuations and

1462
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 2: so but yeah, but you know the difference though, as

1463
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 2: as a journalist, you understand I'm not a journalist Okay.

1464
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 2: As a broadcaster, you had to you had to learn

1465
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 2: certain things about what you say. So if I say

1466
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 2: I heard that, it might be it's a totally different thing.

1467
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 2: When did he call him?

1468
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 1: Then?

1469
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 2: Did he call him a pdf? Okay, say Drake, I

1470
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 2: heard you like I'm young. You better not ever go

1471
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 2: to sell block one fast forward. Certified love a Boy,

1472
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 2: Certified pedophiles. There's a comma there, Certified love a Boy,

1473
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 2: certified pedophiles. Who is he talking to? You? Tell me?

1474
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 2: Is he talking to the certified lovel boy? Do you

1475
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:49,640
Speaker 2: tell me? Okay, I'm gonna asking you because this is

1476
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 2: your record? Is my record? You played this at every party?

1477
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 2: Not every party. I did a corporate event. I didn't

1478
01:13:56,560 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 2: play that. Why not because they wanted like eighty nineties

1479
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 2: R and b oh play. But if it wasn't. If

1480
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 2: it wasn't, you would have played. It's in your set.

1481
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 2: I don't have a set. I read the crowd. I'm

1482
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:10,600
Speaker 2: not lying to you. I've never prepared to set in

1483
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 2: twenty years. Good I crowdry. That's why radio so hard

1484
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 2: for me, because I can't see people. If you have

1485
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 2: five parties in the week, I'm gonna play the record

1486
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 2: out of how many of them parties you play. It

1487
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 2: depends on the crowd, That's what I'm telling I'm reading

1488
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 2: the crowd. If the energy calls for it, then that's

1489
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 2: I'm not one of them DJ's will make it about me.

1490
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 2: It's not what I want to hear. It's whatever the

1491
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 2: crowd is. Okay. How many times do you play Family

1492
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 2: Matters where at a party? Probably once? Okay?

1493
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:39,560
Speaker 4: Maybe do you think it's a party record?

1494
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 2: No, that's my point. I don't think Drake was trying

1495
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 2: to make party records in this moment.

1496
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, we're gonna move on to the last song

1497
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 3: with the last disc in this Battle of Drake's Heart

1498
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,639
Speaker 3: Part six, Maul. You mentioned that The Heart Part six

1499
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 3: would age better than any other song in the Battle

1500
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 3: a year and do you still believe it will or

1501
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 3: that it has?

1502
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 2: I said that they will age better.

1503
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 3: Better than any other song the battle. You said it

1504
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,879
Speaker 3: was one of quote one of the best battle dishes

1505
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 3: or rap dishes of all time.

1506
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 2: I still think that's probably Family Matters is probably the

1507
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 2: better song because of you know, the beat switches and

1508
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 2: things like that, just the energy switching that in that record.

1509
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 2: But Drake's rapping on the hard part six. I mean,

1510
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 2: I don't know if people you know, really listen to

1511
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 2: that record. I still think that that his rapping on

1512
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:28,480
Speaker 2: that is incredible.

1513
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:34,600
Speaker 4: Do you think he misinterpreted mister Morale in his response

1514
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 4: to Drake as far as the pedophile angle went? You said,

1515
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 4: do I think he did what misinterpreted what Kendrick was

1516
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 4: saying on mister Morale as far as past sexual abuse

1517
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 4: in his family.

1518
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. No, I don't.

1519
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 4: I don't think so, because the the idea of the

1520
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 4: record is that there was some type of sexual abuse

1521
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:01,799
Speaker 4: in the past with his face family line, and because

1522
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 4: of that, his family thought he was touched, and he

1523
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 4: was saying, no, I was never touched, Like I'm trying

1524
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,680
Speaker 4: to tell you, please believe me. My cousin did not

1525
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 4: touch me. Drake took the angle after not like us

1526
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 4: to take the pedophile angle to say that he was touched,

1527
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 4: and that is why he keeps bringing up pedophilia. Do

1528
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:22,680
Speaker 4: you think there's any stat lost in completely misinterpreting what

1529
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 4: Kendrick was saying.

1530
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 2: Nah, I think if you're gonna do that, if you're

1531
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 2: gonna if we're gonna find comb misinterpretations throughout this whole thing.

1532
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 2: It's a lot.

1533
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:30,600
Speaker 4: I mean, we have on every record. That's why I

1534
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 4: wanted to be I don't have to na I don't.

1535
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think he misinterpreted. I don't think.

1536
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:39,639
Speaker 2: I don't. I mean if he did, you know, if

1537
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:41,799
Speaker 2: Kendrick comes down and said not that that's not what happened,

1538
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 2: then okay he did. But I think that Drake heard

1539
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 2: that record like we all did, and that's what he

1540
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 2: took from it, and that was the bar he came

1541
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 2: up with.

1542
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:51,559
Speaker 4: Do you feel that he waved the white flag at

1543
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:52,520
Speaker 4: the end of the record.

1544
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 2: Waved the white flag again? I think that he realized

1545
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 2: what was happening. I think he realized, you know, you

1546
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 2: g's positioning in this and what they were trying to do,

1547
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 2: which is why he still has a case ongoing against

1548
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 2: them around the business that they did around the record,

1549
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 2: not so much you know, Kendrick, but just what UMG

1550
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 2: did with that record and that messaging.

1551
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, all again, I want to be objective here.

1552
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 4: Hard Part six came out twenty four hours after not

1553
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 4: like us, so I don't think we even knew a

1554
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:25,600
Speaker 4: bots or what UMG was doing. At that time. I

1555
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 4: think UMG even heard not like us at the same

1556
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 4: time we did, so I hear you on the second part.

1557
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 4: Once Drake realized what UMG, because you know, I've been

1558
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 4: on your side with that entire thing. At the end

1559
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 4: of that. I don't think UMG had anything to do

1560
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 4: with that outro. I think he was saying to Kendrick.

1561
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:44,600
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm not I'm not talking about waving a

1562
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 2: white flag. Because I think it was more so like

1563
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 2: he understood that you know, all right, you want to

1564
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 2: have this back and forth. You obviously have this record. Okay, Cool,

1565
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 2: You're gonna put out a record after I put out

1566
01:17:57,560 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 2: a record. I'm not gonna keep like how long is

1567
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 2: that's gonna go on? Like I could put out five records,

1568
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 2: You're gonna put out five records, Like we're gonn keep

1569
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 2: putting our records every week. I think at some point

1570
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:09,600
Speaker 2: Drake was just like, all right, man, like I'm not

1571
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 2: if this, If this is what your plan was to

1572
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 2: drop right after I drop, then cool man, you got it.

1573
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 2: Like I'm not gonna sit here and just drop records

1574
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 2: every two days and just go back and forth for

1575
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 2: the entire southing. I'm not gonna do that. What's the question.

1576
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:26,600
Speaker 4: Thoughts the white flag or response to aa mal I

1577
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 4: had to say? With the five records and constantly going

1578
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 4: how long is this battle gonna continue?

1579
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 1: On?

1580
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 2: Battle fatigue is a thing you know, I watch. I'm

1581
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 2: a big WWE fan. I watch. I watch wrestlers submit

1582
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 2: all the time.

1583
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 4: Okay, so you think it was battle, you think it

1584
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 4: was a submission.

1585
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 2: Well, the thing is, I don't want to get hell

1586
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 2: of deep because people like say they like to call

1587
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 2: me pretentious, but demors Is that what they say about you? Yeah,

1588
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 2: they do demerits me ask you a question when you

1589
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 2: listen to the heart PARTI is his energy the same

1590
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:02,799
Speaker 2: as it is on family matters?

1591
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 3: I'm choosing not to answer that question because this is

1592
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 3: completely between you guys, and me and Rory have decided

1593
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 3: to stay.

1594
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 4: Completely out of it.

1595
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 3: Were trying to get you because we have already because

1596
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,719
Speaker 3: we've covered this battle so much, there's preconceived notions about

1597
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 3: what sides we are on.

1598
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 4: So we're staying completely mag Yeah.

1599
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 2: Do you think that Drake's energy is the same from

1600
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 2: on family matters and on the hard part. It's not

1601
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 2: supposed to be. It's a different record. The energy of

1602
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 2: the record is different, the production is different. I agree,

1603
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 2: it's a totally different energy. I think his temperament is

1604
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 2: the same. Well, no, because again it's a different song.

1605
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 2: I think that he's seeing what's going on, like he's

1606
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 2: piecing certain things together, like kind of trying to put

1607
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 2: the puzzle like, oh, okay, this is what this is about.

1608
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 2: Like oh right, So I don't think it's Yes, his

1609
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 2: timperament is different on Hart Part six than it was

1610
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 2: on Family Matters. Absolutely, but not due to battle fatigue

1611
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 2: or you know anything like that. I think it's due

1612
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 2: to him like finally seeming like Okay, I see what's

1613
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 2: going on here. I see what's happening. I see what

1614
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 2: this is getting ready to this is a leverage moment,

1615
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 2: Like okay, I thought we was battling as just rappers

1616
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 2: and there was no business attached to this. I think

1617
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 2: he started seeing that, Oh wait a minute, okay, I'll

1618
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 2: see what's happening here, like this business being attached to this,

1619
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 2: Like I wasn't doing this for business or trying to capitalize.

1620
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 2: He has what could Drake? What could he capitalize off

1621
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 2: for He's already the biggest one of the bigges artists

1622
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 2: in the world. There was no room for capitalization there.

1623
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 2: It was just like, all right, I'm having a moment

1624
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 2: with an MC. I obviously respect with a rapper that

1625
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 2: I respect. He has some words for me, I have

1626
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 2: some words for him. But I don't think that I

1627
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:42,560
Speaker 2: think that Kendrick's mindset was business. I think Drake's mindset

1628
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 2: was battle, and I think that's what the disconnect happened.

1629
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 2: And Drake walked away from like, Okay, you in business mode.

1630
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 2: Pg Lang getting it going, UMG is behind it now, Okay,

1631
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 2: I'll see what's going on. I'm not That's not why

1632
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:58,679
Speaker 2: I engage in this thing. I engage in this shit

1633
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,640
Speaker 2: as a battle, not as turning it into business and

1634
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 2: then getting you know, whatever Kendrick got from it, which

1635
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 2: I'm not mad at. I mean, capitalize off the fucking

1636
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 2: moment as a businessman and as an artist. Cool. But

1637
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 2: I think Drake's mindset was more this is just a

1638
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 2: battle of two of the best rappers in MC's right now,

1639
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 2: I disagree. Like Rory said, the songs was just days

1640
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 2: of like there was no business around it. Plus that's

1641
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:28,680
Speaker 2: not necessarily how the music business work. Rory's put out

1642
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 2: an album you could probably well you don't want to

1643
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 2: talk about Okay, fine, but uhuh, go ahead, go ahead.

1644
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 4: I love that. This is the example for everything. It's

1645
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:36,679
Speaker 4: my album.

1646
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, no, not I'm not trying to

1647
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 2: be disrespectful, but there's a lot of people who speak

1648
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 2: on the music business that don't actively participate in the

1649
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 2: music business.

1650
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 1: Right.

1651
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 2: That's not how the music business is set up. It

1652
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 2: doesn't work like that. You don't get to just dictate

1653
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 2: do I'm doing this and I'm doing that, And there's

1654
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 2: whole departments of people that have to move and do

1655
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 2: shit when you do shit. The other part, I don't

1656
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 2: think Drake and Kendrick dictate. That's not what I'm saying.

1657
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is you still have to it. That

1658
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 2: still takes time. You don't get you don't have to

1659
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 2: or the label seats what's going on and they call

1660
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 2: you like it's the label anybody that works for the

1661
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 2: label that you're assigned to. Okay, I'm glad you said that.

1662
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 2: That's not necessarily true, because you mean, if I'm in

1663
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 2: the radio promotions department, I don't represent the label. I

1664
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 2: represent the records. Some people work for the record label

1665
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 2: that are at radio. No, no, no, we know that they

1666
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 2: work for the label, but I'm not I'm not a

1667
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 2: representative of the label too. Like I don't call you, no,

1668
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 2: not publicly. No, you some some people at radio are

1669
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 2: absolutely on payroll with labels one million percent. I'm not

1670
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 2: saying you know that. I'm not saying that. What I'm

1671
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 2: saying is if I am in the promotions department, I

1672
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 2: don't get to call you and be like, yeah, so

1673
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 2: what we're doing with this record that's not how No, no, no,

1674
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that. I'm tolding you this is this

1675
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 2: is bigger than promotions department. This is bigger than that.

1676
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:01,799
Speaker 2: I think that the higher up saw what was happening

1677
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 2: with two of the biggest artists of their generations, and

1678
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:06,640
Speaker 2: it was like, we need to capitalize off of this

1679
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:09,680
Speaker 2: one thousand percent. And nobody can convince me that that

1680
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:13,639
Speaker 2: did not happen one million percent. That happened. We are

1681
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 2: going to capitalize off of this moment. So you think

1682
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 2: there was a there was a There was an entire

1683
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 2: plot line from the not maybe not from the beginning,

1684
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 2: but once it started, it was going. When do you

1685
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 2: think that the label started to conspire. I think that

1686
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 2: once the record started dropping, once we got the back

1687
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 2: and forth like Drake dropped, Kendrick drop Drake Drake dropped

1688
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 2: a day or two after that, I think that once

1689
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 2: they saw that and then they saw with these with

1690
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 2: the numbers was doing on whatever it was YouTube or

1691
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 2: whatever this is, they was like, no, we're absolutely capitalizing

1692
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,599
Speaker 2: off of this moment. There's no way the entire world

1693
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 2: is looking at this moment and the labels that these

1694
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 2: gentlemen are attached to in some way, it's not capitalizing

1695
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 2: off the moment. They're not going to fumble that bag. No, okay,

1696
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 2: which is why you get the Amazon Show. Well, that's

1697
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 2: why you get the Amazon Show. Off the record one

1698
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 2: million percent, You think that people wasn't gonna tune in

1699
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 2: and stream the first time Kendrick performed that record. Absolutely,

1700
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:15,919
Speaker 2: Amazon didn't do that by act. That was an accident.

1701
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 2: That wasn't just something that they absolutely was like, no, no,

1702
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 2: we need to capitalize off of this momentum one million

1703
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 2: percent and why. And it's a smart business play. I'm

1704
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:27,599
Speaker 2: not knocking it, but we're not gonna see the act

1705
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 2: like it wasn't you know a meeting and the didn't

1706
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 2: come together and say we have to capitalize. You're saying

1707
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 2: that UMG was like Amazon, let's do this thing. I'm

1708
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 2: not saying that's how it went. I'm saying when they

1709
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 2: saw that momentum and they saw how big that this

1710
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 2: is the biggest moment in hip hop in the last However,

1711
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 2: maybe since jynis maybe even bigger than jay Nis, There's

1712
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 2: no way you're gonna sit across me and say somebody

1713
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 2: at these labels or somewhere else didn't say we have

1714
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 2: to capitalize off of this moment. This moment is too

1715
01:24:58,200 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 2: big of a moment. We may not ever see a

1716
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,759
Speaker 2: moment and hip hop like this again. And that Amazon

1717
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 2: or whoever else is not going to have a meeting

1718
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 2: and say we need to capitalize off of this moment. Absolutely,

1719
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:09,640
Speaker 2: and I'm not mad at it. But don't sit in

1720
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,679
Speaker 2: and say, nah, nobody had that talk at one million percent,

1721
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:15,759
Speaker 2: they had that talk, and they should. It's about making money.

1722
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 2: Just because you talk louder don't mean you right. That's

1723
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 2: not that's not my tent. That's not what happened. I

1724
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 2: can tell you I was there. That's not what happened.

1725
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 2: Of course, you were there, you DJ'ed the pot. But

1726
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 2: you're not gonna sit in and tell me Amazon didn't say, yo,

1727
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 2: we're not gonna capitalize it. You say on Amazon, you're

1728
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 2: saying Jeff Bezos, whoever runs, whoever was in charge of

1729
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 2: putting together that show and streaming it on Prime, That's

1730
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 2: who I'm talking about. Okay, Bezos probably no, but he

1731
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 2: has a bunch of people that work under him that

1732
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 2: it's their job to not fumble that moment absolutely or

1733
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:48,720
Speaker 2: run I'll run it. Ors in that scenario about you

1734
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 2: run it. I pitched you should do a show that's

1735
01:25:53,880 --> 01:26:01,600
Speaker 2: so far why for mister Morale and the big steppers?

1736
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 2: Sure whatever, can't cut this ship, bro, to perform the record,

1737
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 2: to perform the record. I actually, I'll tell you I

1738
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 2: actually pitched an idea for the actual music video. Mm hmm,

1739
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 2: not like us correct, Okay, it's like, hey, let's do

1740
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 2: you should do it this way? Let's do a concert?

1741
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's what you think. Yeah, that's what I think. Literally,

1742
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 2: did I know there was already something in the works

1743
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 2: for a show? Right? But it wasn't at the sofar

1744
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 2: stadium those three days. Little did you know there was

1745
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 2: already something in the word and I'm gonna provide you with

1746
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 2: another scenario. Okay, so there's this a big grandiose so

1747
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 2: more conspiracy theory, right, conspiracy theory, Well, okay, a flat

1748
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 2: earther theory that you have. Or it's like, hey, we

1749
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:59,639
Speaker 2: need to do a show because we had a show

1750
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 2: already played that I was supposed to do in the

1751
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:07,959
Speaker 2: Lamart part for June teenth, respect Juneteenth is a historical

1752
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:11,600
Speaker 2: black area in Los Angeles. We were already supposed to

1753
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:14,240
Speaker 2: do a show for juneteen respect that show ended up

1754
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 2: not happening. That was like, oh, let's say, hypothetically speaking,

1755
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 2: He's like, well, let's just let's just do our own

1756
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 2: show because that show, that show fell through. Oh they

1757
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 2: do they put together a show. Hypothetically speaking, that's a possibility,

1758
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 2: right mh. That bypasses a label, that also bypasses Jeff

1759
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 2: or whoever he hasn't in placed.

1760
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 4: Can I just interject for one second. I'm not here

1761
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 4: to add an opinion, just add facts to it. Who

1762
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 4: is the head of Amazon Music at the time of

1763
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 4: the pop up show, Because I understand you're bring up

1764
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:53,720
Speaker 4: Jeff Bezos, he's in space. But let's talk about who

1765
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 4: was actually his girl went fair. Okay, So who was

1766
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:01,800
Speaker 4: the he of Amazon Music at the time.

1767
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 2: At the time, it was Tim, Tim.

1768
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:07,639
Speaker 4: Friend of the show We Love Tim and show that's

1769
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 4: our guy, Love to death. Do you know where Timothy?

1770
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 4: Where is Tim from? And who did Tim grow up with?

1771
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:16,840
Speaker 2: Tim is from Compton? Who did he grow up with?

1772
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 2: What you mean? I don't know who he grew up with?

1773
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm just adding in some context of what you're saying. No,

1774
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:27,599
Speaker 4: Jeff Bezos wouldn't wasn't involved in that. I'm just adding context.

1775
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 4: I have no dog in this fight. I watched the

1776
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 4: pop up, paid for it. I loved Tim go ahead.

1777
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, But also there's also nuance to that, which is like, again,

1778
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 2: I don't get into I'm not I don't speak out

1779
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:43,839
Speaker 2: of turn because again, but there's there's also street stuff

1780
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:47,720
Speaker 2: that it's probably wouldn't because I understand that where you're

1781
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 2: going with that, But there's also stuff that supersedes all

1782
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 2: of this.

1783
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 4: And also Tim was just doing his job in an

1784
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 4: amazing way well.

1785
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 2: Tim also put together Incredibles. Dreamville.

1786
01:28:57,160 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 4: Festyler is one of the best executives that we need

1787
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 4: in music right now. Love him, but just wanted to

1788
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 4: fit into this entire thing for sure, shout.

1789
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 2: I think what Rory is saying is Tim was not

1790
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:13,679
Speaker 2: going to miss a moment to capitalize as he should though,

1791
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 2: which is my whole point that somebody somewhere said, guys,

1792
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 2: we have to capitalize off of this moment, which is

1793
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 2: what they should have done. I'm not mad at the

1794
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 2: pop out show, but we're not going to act like

1795
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:29,640
Speaker 2: in respect to Lamar Paul because I know Jute, I

1796
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:32,679
Speaker 2: respectause we streamed there the year before. That's why I said,

1797
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 2: I already know that that probably was a thing. But

1798
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 2: now that we have this moment, hey, let's capitalize off

1799
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 2: of this moment. Let's make it a bigger Let's bring

1800
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:47,599
Speaker 2: in an Amazon Prime and things like that and attach

1801
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:49,519
Speaker 2: it to let's get a bag, we can get people

1802
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 2: less highlight artists from the city. Let's make it a

1803
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 2: whole thing. Like Yeah, but it wasn't. It wasn't it

1804
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:58,200
Speaker 2: was I guess the narrative, and it was made clear

1805
01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 2: to us, even me in my group of guys, this

1806
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 2: is not an anti anyone show. This is a pross show,

1807
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 2: no cool, and I'm salute to that. I'm not saying

1808
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 2: it was an anti Drake thing. But that moment that

1809
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 2: record the battle, All I'm saying is, let's not act

1810
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 2: like it wasn't big business that wanted to attach itself

1811
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 2: to that, Like, hey, I get it. Culture battle to

1812
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:30,400
Speaker 2: the biggest of their generation. We can't not capitalize. It's

1813
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 2: all I'm saying. Somebody somewhere sat down and came up

1814
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:37,839
Speaker 2: with a plan and say, we have to have this moment.

1815
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:41,719
Speaker 2: We have to stage this moment. We need to stage

1816
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 2: this moment.

1817
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:42,559
Speaker 4: Okay.

1818
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:44,600
Speaker 3: So I'm all just to clarify what you're saying and

1819
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:46,439
Speaker 3: just put it in black and white. Are you saying

1820
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:48,439
Speaker 3: that the pop up does not happen if not, like

1821
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 3: US does not become the hit that it did.

1822
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:52,640
Speaker 2: When the battle doesn't happen, No, it does not.

1823
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 4: Okay, head, what do you think?

1824
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:57,600
Speaker 2: I disagree? I think it's possible. There's always because you

1825
01:30:57,640 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 2: got to think it came together extremely fast. You know

1826
01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 2: why I came together extremely fast because we lost the

1827
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 2: Juneteenth and Lamar Park, Right. But then that record, that

1828
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 2: moment that battle happened and it was the most talked

1829
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:15,599
Speaker 2: about thing around the world, and somebody somewhere said, hey, guys,

1830
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:19,599
Speaker 2: let's do this again. Great business move by whoever put

1831
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 2: it together. Not mad at it. It's not an anti

1832
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 2: sh So do you share this sentiment If the idea

1833
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:29,280
Speaker 2: came from that of doing the show, whoever it came from,

1834
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:31,760
Speaker 2: they understood the business that they can make out of it.

1835
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that somebody somewhere used their brain and said, hey,

1836
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 2: we shouldn't just let these songs live on YouTube and

1837
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 2: just you know, not turn it into this grand moment

1838
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:45,600
Speaker 2: like we should absolutely capitalize, which is smart. I'm just

1839
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:47,640
Speaker 2: saying I think one artist was thinking that way and

1840
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:50,519
Speaker 2: the other wasn't. The other was just strictly because again,

1841
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:56,240
Speaker 2: what does Drake gain from, you know, turning that into business,

1842
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 2: Like he already has all of those things. He's top

1843
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:03,479
Speaker 2: four biggest artists in the world. He stands to gain

1844
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 2: nothing from that, which is why again I respect Drake

1845
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 2: as a rapping in the MC because he can go

1846
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 2: into every battle feeling like, when I have nothing to

1847
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:14,920
Speaker 2: gain from this, what am I gonna gain? The perception

1848
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:18,040
Speaker 2: in the barbershop some people ain't like yo, he got him, like,

1849
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:20,760
Speaker 2: what does he gain from that? He stands more to

1850
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:25,360
Speaker 2: lose regardless of who he's standing across because he's already here.

1851
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:27,679
Speaker 2: For the last however many years, he's been on top

1852
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:30,679
Speaker 2: dominating music. So it's like, okay, but I'm a rapper

1853
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 2: and if somebody comes at me, I gotta stand on

1854
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 2: my pen. To me, that's a doubt. What do you

1855
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:39,320
Speaker 2: mean it's doubt? Because if we're here at your studio

1856
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:42,760
Speaker 2: right now, and let's say, I don't know, do you

1857
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 2: think that you think that Rory can beat up Mike

1858
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 2: Tyson beat him up in a fight? Yeh, No, Okay,

1859
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 2: So if Mike Tyson comes here, he's outside and he

1860
01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:55,679
Speaker 2: wants to fight Rory, and Rory's like, fucking, I'm gonna

1861
01:32:55,680 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 2: go outside. Were gonna be well, the perception was shit

1862
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:00,960
Speaker 2: at least Rory when I was out and took the fade.

1863
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:02,880
Speaker 2: Are you trying to say that Drake is not a fighter,

1864
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:04,800
Speaker 2: he's not a rapper. No. What I'm saying is, but

1865
01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 2: Rory's not a fighter, so he should not go outside

1866
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:09,800
Speaker 2: and fight Mike Tyson. What I'm saying is you give

1867
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:13,640
Speaker 2: people that a due when you already have a preconceived

1868
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:18,640
Speaker 2: notion that they are the underdog. I get with the

1869
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 2: point you're trying to make, but no, if I'm a

1870
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 2: rapper and I'm an MC, and another just is just

1871
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:27,160
Speaker 2: rap culture, and another MC comes at me, throw shots

1872
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:30,800
Speaker 2: at me, whatever. Whatever. Now Drake is in a position

1873
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 2: where he cannot He doesn't have to respond because he's

1874
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:36,680
Speaker 2: already you know, he's he's been at the top of

1875
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 2: the mountain, like he could look down at everybody be like,

1876
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 2: I'm not paying these dudes no mind. I can only

1877
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:42,720
Speaker 2: elevate you, sir. I can only bring you up to

1878
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:45,120
Speaker 2: where I'm at. If I battle you right now, I

1879
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:48,320
Speaker 2: have everything to quote unquote lose or whatever. I don't

1880
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 2: gain nothing by getting this battle. Even if drake public

1881
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:59,160
Speaker 2: perception annihilates Kendrick, what is he gained from it? Is

1882
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 2: he gonna sell more reci Is he gonna stream more?

1883
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:02,559
Speaker 2: Is he gonna sell more tickets? Is he gonna get

1884
01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:04,559
Speaker 2: a stadium tour? He already turned down the super Bowl

1885
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:07,200
Speaker 2: three times? What does he gained from the moment? He

1886
01:34:07,240 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 2: might have got all of that shit, but it didn't

1887
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:11,639
Speaker 2: go that way. What he already has all of that ship?

1888
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? Which stadium tour? You don't

1889
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 2: think that Drake could do a stadium tour. I didn't

1890
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:20,360
Speaker 2: say that. I said, which one, Oh, okay, as long

1891
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 2: as that's not what.

1892
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:32,840
Speaker 4: You well, you think Drake's perception grew after he beat Mek,

1893
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 4: His perception yeah, as a as a rapper, even after

1894
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 4: the ghost, as as an entity as a brand. I

1895
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:42,320
Speaker 4: don't think it's everything.

1896
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 2: I don't think it grew. I think people expected Meek

1897
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:49,519
Speaker 2: is obviously battle rap tested. He comes from battle rap.

1898
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:52,600
Speaker 2: We watched his progression from the corners of Philly to

1899
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 2: where he is today, so their paths were different. But

1900
01:34:57,680 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 2: in that moment when that battle happened, I don't think

1901
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,400
Speaker 2: anybody thought Meek was a better rapper than Drake. So

1902
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 2: I don't think that his perception. I think people respected it.

1903
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:08,639
Speaker 2: Like Yo, he's able to make these hit records, He's

1904
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:10,879
Speaker 2: able to make hit rap records, R and B records,

1905
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:13,360
Speaker 2: and he'll still get in the ring and rap with

1906
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 2: a quote unquote battle rapper. I think that it may

1907
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:19,760
Speaker 2: have like show people like, nah, Drake is really about that,

1908
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:21,719
Speaker 2: But I don't think it was much of a change

1909
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:22,840
Speaker 2: of perception in Drake there.

1910
01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 3: So, Doude going into this battle, from what you were

1911
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:28,760
Speaker 3: saying earlier, do you think that people were under the

1912
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:31,720
Speaker 3: impression that Kendrick was the underdog in this battle or

1913
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 3: do you think that people were under impression it was

1914
01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:34,639
Speaker 3: an even matchup.

1915
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:38,800
Speaker 2: Nah, I don't think that people felt Kendrick was an underdog. Well,

1916
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 2: some people may have felt that way, but people that

1917
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:44,880
Speaker 2: no rap and that listen to bars and skill set,

1918
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:48,680
Speaker 2: they knew that Kendrick was well equipped to get in

1919
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 2: the ring with anybody in rap. Now, Drake is obviously

1920
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:54,680
Speaker 2: the bigger artist, the biggest star in the moment. But

1921
01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 2: I don't think that the people that really no rap

1922
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:01,720
Speaker 2: felt like Kendrick was an underdog. No. I think they

1923
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:04,760
Speaker 2: felt like Kendrick had more to gain, He had more

1924
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 2: to get out of the moment, in the situation and Drake,

1925
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:09,880
Speaker 2: because again, Drake has he has all of the accolades,

1926
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:11,280
Speaker 2: he has all of the numbers, even though I don't

1927
01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:12,639
Speaker 2: care about it, but I'm just saying that we're talking

1928
01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:14,800
Speaker 2: about when anybody has to win to lose here in

1929
01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:19,920
Speaker 2: this moment, what does Drake have lose outside of you know,

1930
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 2: calling me something that is the most egregious thing ever

1931
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:25,960
Speaker 2: and then trying to defam make my character on a

1932
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:29,840
Speaker 2: personal level. Cool, Yeah, But as far as like accolades

1933
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:32,760
Speaker 2: and accomplishments, Drake doesn't. He didn't stand it to gain

1934
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:33,320
Speaker 2: anything in it.

1935
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:38,519
Speaker 4: If Drake had annihilated Kendrick in this battle, do you

1936
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:40,680
Speaker 4: think you'd be speaking this way? Because I think at

1937
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:43,120
Speaker 4: that point we would put Drake at a god level

1938
01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:46,200
Speaker 4: tier as far as everything he's accomplished in music if

1939
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:47,519
Speaker 4: he would have beat Is he not one of the

1940
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 4: greatest rappers that we've seen? Don't he's got what we're

1941
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:52,080
Speaker 4: talking about? The MC shit, because I even think Drake

1942
01:36:52,120 --> 01:36:54,760
Speaker 4: was viewed as an underdog with the Meek thing, just

1943
01:36:54,760 --> 01:36:57,440
Speaker 4: based off Meek's perception at the time and the ghostwriting

1944
01:36:57,479 --> 01:37:00,519
Speaker 4: shit was going on. It was weird. That made me

1945
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:03,160
Speaker 4: even go, damn, maybe you can't fuck with Drake.

1946
01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 2: So what is your I'm sorry, what's your question?

1947
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:09,679
Speaker 4: Do you think if he would have beat Kendrick you'd

1948
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 4: be speaking this way that he had nothing to gain

1949
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 4: from it. I think there'd be no there'd be no

1950
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:16,200
Speaker 4: questions about Nacket for the rest of his life.

1951
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you talk, You're talking to somebody that feels like

1952
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:20,479
Speaker 2: Drake won the battle because he has the better balls,

1953
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:23,840
Speaker 2: enough enough, like you know what I'm saying. I'm talking about,

1954
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:26,639
Speaker 2: But I'm not talking about a song and what it's

1955
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:28,960
Speaker 2: streaming and where it's on the chart. I'm talking about

1956
01:37:29,080 --> 01:37:29,759
Speaker 2: the bars.

1957
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 4: Okay, well, let me go off what social media and

1958
01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:35,799
Speaker 4: the perception was just off algorithms and numbers. If social

1959
01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 4: media didn't exist, and this is from somebody on Twitter

1960
01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 4: at r nine hove, I thought, there's a great question.

1961
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 4: If social media didn't exist and people just listen to

1962
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:46,559
Speaker 4: each song, do you think there would have been a

1963
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 4: different result. I know your answer, mall because you already

1964
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:49,639
Speaker 4: feel like my.

1965
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:51,559
Speaker 2: Answer, because you know, you know what, you know that

1966
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:52,120
Speaker 2: it would have had.

1967
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:54,240
Speaker 4: Yes, So I want to ask that question.

1968
01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:56,599
Speaker 2: What's the question?

1969
01:37:57,040 --> 01:37:59,519
Speaker 4: If social media didn't exist and people just listening to

1970
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:02,400
Speaker 4: each song? Do you think it would be a different result?

1971
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:05,080
Speaker 2: Not a different result. It to be more even killed though,

1972
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:10,040
Speaker 2: so it's a different result. No, yeah, what do you mean? Oay,

1973
01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:11,960
Speaker 2: we ain't talking about You said it would be more

1974
01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:14,320
Speaker 2: even killed. So that's a different result than what it

1975
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:16,360
Speaker 2: is now, because the result now is that it's not

1976
01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:18,960
Speaker 2: even killed. No, the journey would be more even killed,

1977
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:21,599
Speaker 2: not the end result. All right, well you just changed

1978
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:22,759
Speaker 2: what you just said. You said the journey.

1979
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:24,760
Speaker 4: Now, elaborate more on that.

1980
01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:28,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the end result would be the same if

1981
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:31,920
Speaker 2: social media didn't exist, but also social media didn't didn't exist,

1982
01:38:31,960 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 2: that would have in turn disarmed Drake immntally, but it

1983
01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:40,840
Speaker 2: also would have would have lessened the blow, lessened the

1984
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:46,960
Speaker 2: expectation of Drake. Drake, Drake was the aggressor. He was

1985
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:49,200
Speaker 2: doing a lot of taunting, a lot of meming him

1986
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:56,640
Speaker 2: and Maul and collaboration doing all of that that they

1987
01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:58,679
Speaker 2: were doing it. So it's a lot of that going on.

1988
01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:01,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I can't stop you. I don't know IF's

1989
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:03,639
Speaker 4: aggressor after the like that verse started everything.

1990
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:06,639
Speaker 2: But that's the way he had trying to paint it. Man,

1991
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:09,920
Speaker 2: Drake was on tour.

1992
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:11,840
Speaker 4: I'm not trying.

1993
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 2: I'm not.

1994
01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:14,639
Speaker 4: Had.

1995
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:17,719
Speaker 2: J Cole is bigging this guy up on the record

1996
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:21,040
Speaker 2: with Drake put him into three, the Big three. He

1997
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:22,960
Speaker 2: was part of the Big three according to J Cole,

1998
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:25,519
Speaker 2: because Drake never felt like that. But according to J Cole, yeah,

1999
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:28,800
Speaker 2: you're talking about things that play out in public. I'm

2000
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:31,840
Speaker 2: saying I'm not saying anything. I'm just saying that you

2001
01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 2: don't know what went on behind the scenes. Some of

2002
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:36,559
Speaker 2: it I know, but I will never speak on put

2003
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:38,640
Speaker 2: not because there certain things I will never speak on

2004
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:40,200
Speaker 2: It's certain ship. I know right now that if I

2005
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:41,760
Speaker 2: say right here on this platform, it will shake the

2006
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:44,280
Speaker 2: entire industry up, and I will never do that same.

2007
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 2: I will never do it exactly. So there, so there

2008
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:49,880
Speaker 2: you have it. So with that being said, with those

2009
01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:54,479
Speaker 2: things said and being not said, if if Drake is

2010
01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:59,680
Speaker 2: the aggressor and and Dodds counterpunching, I think that the

2011
01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:02,559
Speaker 2: level the playing field is more even killed dependent because

2012
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:04,960
Speaker 2: there's the lack of social media. He got a lot

2013
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:08,040
Speaker 2: of blowback because it's like this big red button and like,

2014
01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:10,519
Speaker 2: oh my god. And then also like there's a lot

2015
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:13,960
Speaker 2: of corny shit that was happening, Like Taunton Ant that's

2016
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:16,880
Speaker 2: wame as fuck to me. At is like a Leger fan.

2017
01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:19,360
Speaker 2: He don't do nothing and he don't bother nobody and

2018
01:40:19,479 --> 01:40:23,120
Speaker 2: is out the way, great person and it's an amazing guy. Right,

2019
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 2: that was lame in corny right, just doing See, I

2020
01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:31,719
Speaker 2: have a problem with bullies. If you was from Chicago,

2021
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:34,760
Speaker 2: would you feel like this? What was it? Because you're

2022
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:36,519
Speaker 2: from California. No, I had nothing to do with it.

2023
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:39,280
Speaker 2: I don't like bullies. I'm give No, you've been from California.

2024
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:40,800
Speaker 2: You don't think that that has anything to do with

2025
01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:42,400
Speaker 2: your stance on this whole thing. I'm from New York,

2026
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:45,720
Speaker 2: I'm not from Toronto, No, But I also think you

2027
01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:48,800
Speaker 2: have a different affinity for your person than I do,

2028
01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:54,800
Speaker 2: like afinity as far as what personally? Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely,

2029
01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:57,840
Speaker 2: So y'all how long y'all been cool her friends? Years? Like,

2030
01:40:57,840 --> 01:41:06,639
Speaker 2: how long first met Dric? Maybe twenty twelve, eleven twelve,

2031
01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:08,120
Speaker 2: But how long have y'all had a report? Like you

2032
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:11,400
Speaker 2: got to know for a couple of years, Like I

2033
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:13,160
Speaker 2: mean maybe like two or three years. All right, So

2034
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:14,880
Speaker 2: y'all have a report for like two or three these

2035
01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 2: are my friends for eighteen years. So yeah, it's gonna

2036
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:20,000
Speaker 2: be different, you know what I'm saying, Like I've known

2037
01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 2: these dudes for eighteen years. That's not the same thing.

2038
01:41:24,040 --> 01:41:26,960
Speaker 2: That's not music business, that's not anything. My answer would

2039
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 2: be the same no matter where I'm from, depending on

2040
01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:32,000
Speaker 2: if you're asking me an objective opinion about what's going

2041
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:35,320
Speaker 2: on versus my friendships or my homies or whatever the case.

2042
01:41:35,439 --> 01:41:37,519
Speaker 2: So it's a certain level of bias, is what I'm asking. No,

2043
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:40,559
Speaker 2: the bias comes from my relationship with the people, not

2044
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:43,519
Speaker 2: what's playing out. I can call it straight, but it

2045
01:41:43,560 --> 01:41:47,040
Speaker 2: affects it. If you want to paint me with a brush,

2046
01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 2: that's fine because because what it really is is that

2047
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:53,320
Speaker 2: is we're more like than we all different. You're gonna publicly,

2048
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:55,920
Speaker 2: you're gonna ride with your people, but when y'all get

2049
01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:59,759
Speaker 2: behind closed doors, you're gonna say y' you was wrong publicly.

2050
01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:02,200
Speaker 2: You never say it. No, no, no, no, I don't believe it. See,

2051
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:04,120
Speaker 2: I was taught that. That's one thing I do push

2052
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:06,040
Speaker 2: back on on the way that I was brought up

2053
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:10,200
Speaker 2: amongst the people that I came up with, is I

2054
01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:12,639
Speaker 2: don't believe in that right or wrong. Shit. If you're wrong,

2055
01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:15,280
Speaker 2: if you're wrong, you're wrong. Yeah. But what I'm saying

2056
01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:18,200
Speaker 2: is if if we're out together somewhere and you're with

2057
01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 2: your best friend of twenty years and he does something stupid,

2058
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:26,040
Speaker 2: it's happened, he grabs a girl's ass in the club,

2059
01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 2: big fight happens. In that moment, You're gonna stand there

2060
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:31,840
Speaker 2: and fight with your boy. Am I one you hed

2061
01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:34,160
Speaker 2: we're not doing this, Yes you are. You're not gonna

2062
01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:35,720
Speaker 2: stand there. You're gonna stand there watch your man get

2063
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:38,280
Speaker 2: beat up. I would probably intervene in a certain way,

2064
01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:40,000
Speaker 2: but I don't think I would have the same energy

2065
01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:42,120
Speaker 2: had he had he not been in the wrong. Okay,

2066
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 2: if your boy grabs a girl's ass and you DJing

2067
01:42:45,280 --> 01:42:46,880
Speaker 2: your man next to you in the booth, he drunk,

2068
01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:48,800
Speaker 2: he grabs a girl ass, her man is standing right there,

2069
01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:52,880
Speaker 2: they start pouncing on your homeboyd you're gonna keep blending nigga,

2070
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:54,559
Speaker 2: or you're gonna get in the fucking field and start

2071
01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:57,559
Speaker 2: helping your man's getting it playing hopscotch on his back.

2072
01:42:57,960 --> 01:42:59,640
Speaker 2: I don't think what I'm saying to you is I

2073
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:02,000
Speaker 2: would intervene, but it wouldn't be in the same capacity.

2074
01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:05,080
Speaker 2: What do you mean, So in what capacity would you intervene?

2075
01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:07,280
Speaker 2: Would you say on the mic? Hey, god stop? No?

2076
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:11,519
Speaker 2: Stopping something and de escalating is different than acting than

2077
01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:13,840
Speaker 2: getting in the field. Okay, So if your boy was

2078
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:15,960
Speaker 2: getting beat up based off the access he did, are

2079
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:18,080
Speaker 2: you gonna help? This has happened before in my life. Okay,

2080
01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:21,040
Speaker 2: So when I escalated, so somebody was getting your boy

2081
01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:22,880
Speaker 2: was getting jumped, and you didn't throw a fist at all?

2082
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:27,160
Speaker 2: There was I wouldn't say didn't throw a fist all right,

2083
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:30,519
Speaker 2: that's all I'm saying. Even if he was wrong, you're

2084
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:33,720
Speaker 2: gonna hold your man down. But when y'all get back

2085
01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:36,000
Speaker 2: to the set, yo, you was wrong, you caused that

2086
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:39,720
Speaker 2: whole fucking situation. Now, it doesn't go it's not that's

2087
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:41,240
Speaker 2: to me, that's a great that's not a one to

2088
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:44,559
Speaker 2: one to me, it depends on what's going on. Literally,

2089
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:47,800
Speaker 2: your boy does something crazy. He he caused as to me,

2090
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:49,360
Speaker 2: it's not the same thing as a scenario that I

2091
01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:51,160
Speaker 2: was in. Okay, what's the scenario you was in? Pain?

2092
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:53,240
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna talk about that. Why not. We don't

2093
01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:55,479
Speaker 2: need the names, We just need the situation. That's when

2094
01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:57,120
Speaker 2: I can't. I'm not gonna talk about that.

2095
01:43:57,280 --> 01:43:59,880
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, Well let's move forward.

2096
01:43:59,920 --> 01:44:01,880
Speaker 3: I have a question you guys brought up, well, we

2097
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:03,960
Speaker 3: brought up the internet and its effect on this battle.

2098
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:05,679
Speaker 4: Both of you guys were heavy on.

2099
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:09,040
Speaker 3: The Internet and involved in the cultural commentary when it

2100
01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:11,679
Speaker 3: came to this battle. Do you think that the cultural

2101
01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:14,559
Speaker 3: commentary that you both provided had any effect on the

2102
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:18,040
Speaker 3: public perception of who won this battle? Do you think

2103
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:21,160
Speaker 3: you guys moved any sticks or stones, or moved any

2104
01:44:21,160 --> 01:44:22,040
Speaker 3: tiles any which way?

2105
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 4: When it comes to these two arts.

2106
01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 2: Well, I'll answer first, I don't think anything that I

2107
01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:28,160
Speaker 2: said or did moved anything. I think that, you know,

2108
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:31,760
Speaker 2: people obviously look to my platform for any type of

2109
01:44:31,800 --> 01:44:35,240
Speaker 2: little tidbitch that they could get. But as far as

2110
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:39,320
Speaker 2: the result or people's feelings on the record, I think

2111
01:44:39,320 --> 01:44:42,320
Speaker 2: once you get the record, no matter what anybody says,

2112
01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:45,280
Speaker 2: I think people have their own like I like this record,

2113
01:44:45,320 --> 01:44:48,000
Speaker 2: or well most some people don't, but most people have

2114
01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:50,280
Speaker 2: that I like this record, I'm fucking with this record

2115
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:53,599
Speaker 2: or not, no matter what an influencer or podcast it says.

2116
01:44:53,640 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to affect how somebody feels

2117
01:44:56,160 --> 01:44:58,519
Speaker 2: about a song that they're listening to in their personal time,

2118
01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:01,479
Speaker 2: in their personal space. But you know, obviously people look

2119
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:04,960
Speaker 2: to platforms to kind of get inside information and a little

2120
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:08,080
Speaker 2: behind the scenes things that they can get. Again, it's

2121
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:10,439
Speaker 2: certain things that I know that I would never say

2122
01:45:10,439 --> 01:45:12,880
Speaker 2: public I would never speak publicly because there's a reason

2123
01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:17,559
Speaker 2: these conversations were private. But you know, I can speak

2124
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:21,200
Speaker 2: matter of facting when certain things come up because I

2125
01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:24,080
Speaker 2: know certain things, and you know, I'm privy to certain information,

2126
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:28,200
Speaker 2: but I would never disclose that information. Publicly, like, so,

2127
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:32,559
Speaker 2: you know, I don't think it my words or anything

2128
01:45:32,600 --> 01:45:37,160
Speaker 2: I said in that moment persuade anybody's opinions on the

2129
01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 2: record that they got. I think that my words resonated

2130
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 2: with some people that heard the records and they felt

2131
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:44,640
Speaker 2: the same way. I feel that I believe, but I

2132
01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:48,200
Speaker 2: don't think I swayed anybody's opinion or anything like that.

2133
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:50,439
Speaker 4: No, okad would you what do you think?

2134
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:53,600
Speaker 2: I assume no responsibility for anything that's transpired over the

2135
01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:55,200
Speaker 2: last calendar year in hip hop.

2136
01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:58,320
Speaker 4: It's interesting your.

2137
01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:00,920
Speaker 2: Name, your name in that ricos, I'm not there. What's up?

2138
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:06,040
Speaker 2: Are you right? Negative? See that that's crazy to put

2139
01:46:06,040 --> 01:46:08,639
Speaker 2: on somebody. No, No, I asked the question. I didn put

2140
01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:08,880
Speaker 2: it on you.

2141
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:12,240
Speaker 4: I asked, okay, well, let me ask this kind of

2142
01:46:12,240 --> 01:46:16,240
Speaker 4: based off her question, Maul you posting the red button head,

2143
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:20,080
Speaker 4: the cryptic tweets the way you Daylight and a few

2144
01:46:20,080 --> 01:46:23,680
Speaker 4: other people through that entire battle. You're not about to

2145
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 4: tell me that was just like, oh, I was just tweeting,

2146
01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 4: like I feel like everyone knew what they were doing here,

2147
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:32,880
Speaker 4: and everybody was Everyone was looking for you for ovo stuff,

2148
01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:37,760
Speaker 4: and you on the PG lang TD Kendrick's side. You

2149
01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:40,080
Speaker 4: guys are both very intelligent. I feel like you guys

2150
01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:42,120
Speaker 4: knew what you were doing when you were posting those things,

2151
01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:44,479
Speaker 4: So you don't think you had any effect when you

2152
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:47,000
Speaker 4: were daylight or people we know that are close to

2153
01:46:47,479 --> 01:46:49,240
Speaker 4: the camps said something.

2154
01:46:50,040 --> 01:46:52,599
Speaker 2: No, I know that people like I. To be honest,

2155
01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:56,479
Speaker 2: you can ask my team. I was completely oblivious until

2156
01:46:56,520 --> 01:47:01,240
Speaker 2: like like damn near until like euphoria dry.

2157
01:47:01,320 --> 01:47:02,680
Speaker 4: Do you feel like you made it seem like you

2158
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:03,559
Speaker 4: knew what was going on?

2159
01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:07,439
Speaker 2: No? No, No, I was aware of stuff that was going on,

2160
01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:11,240
Speaker 2: but it wasn't like I was acting on behalf of anybody. Okay,

2161
01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:12,960
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like I was away, like

2162
01:47:13,120 --> 01:47:15,120
Speaker 2: you gotta understand, Like that's why I was just trying

2163
01:47:15,160 --> 01:47:17,880
Speaker 2: to explain, like I don't have to like certain people.

2164
01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:19,080
Speaker 2: I don't have to talk to them to know what

2165
01:47:19,120 --> 01:47:24,120
Speaker 2: they own. That's just a different texture. It's a different

2166
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:26,960
Speaker 2: report that I have with people like that. Your camaraderie

2167
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:29,200
Speaker 2: that you have with your homies. Sometimes you probably will

2168
01:47:29,240 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 2: sit in this chair and know what Mal is on

2169
01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 2: before he even says it. It's just camaraderie that you

2170
01:47:35,479 --> 01:47:37,920
Speaker 2: deal with your brothers, like I don't have to talk

2171
01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:41,200
Speaker 2: to anybody and know, like if you say, if something happens,

2172
01:47:41,560 --> 01:47:42,960
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have to get on the phone and call

2173
01:47:43,040 --> 01:47:44,439
Speaker 2: nobody and be like, oh, yeah, that's what he owned.

2174
01:47:44,439 --> 01:47:46,559
Speaker 2: I already know what he on because I know him.

2175
01:47:46,680 --> 01:47:48,559
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, So I wouldn't say that.

2176
01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:51,240
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say like, oh, I'm not I don't know,

2177
01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:54,160
Speaker 2: and no, I had an idea, but I wasn't at

2178
01:47:54,160 --> 01:47:57,200
Speaker 2: that point. I wasn't acting on behalf of anybody. I'm

2179
01:47:57,240 --> 01:48:01,680
Speaker 2: just like, yo, I'm not also me back up. You

2180
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:05,240
Speaker 2: got to understand around the push ups time, there was

2181
01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:09,680
Speaker 2: nobody defending the homie. I took that personal. How so

2182
01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:16,160
Speaker 2: which wait and what you mean? Nobody was defending people

2183
01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:20,519
Speaker 2: who I thought would be boisterous and having and have

2184
01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:24,720
Speaker 2: like people with platforms, people with platform not even podcasters,

2185
01:48:25,280 --> 01:48:29,120
Speaker 2: anyone with a platform who are with us, who came

2186
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:31,479
Speaker 2: up with us, who are homies and friends and break

2187
01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:34,240
Speaker 2: bread with us. No one was saying anything, so I'm like, well,

2188
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:38,760
Speaker 2: you know, I'll say something like I know, like you

2189
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:42,799
Speaker 2: know this is what don't don't. Nobody was defending the homie,

2190
01:48:43,120 --> 01:48:45,479
Speaker 2: and I didn't like that. But when you say defending him,

2191
01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:48,960
Speaker 2: defending him against what though the mean coin that is Drake.

2192
01:48:51,280 --> 01:48:55,479
Speaker 2: So you didn't fel like anybody was defending Kendrick against

2193
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:58,879
Speaker 2: memes that Drake was putting out. Nobody was just nobody

2194
01:48:58,960 --> 01:49:02,000
Speaker 2: was proactively saying anything about nothing. Everybody was just waiting

2195
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:05,080
Speaker 2: to see like like nah, bro like but see, that's

2196
01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:08,280
Speaker 2: why I feel like, that's why I feel like this

2197
01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:12,400
Speaker 2: turned into a West Coast versus Drake thing. No exactly

2198
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:15,800
Speaker 2: saying nobody's definitive defending Kendrick for Drake posting a meme,

2199
01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:21,120
Speaker 2: Like would somebody say like, oh, Drake, you cary for that? Well,

2200
01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:23,599
Speaker 2: as you know, there are conversations that happen all the time,

2201
01:49:24,120 --> 01:49:26,479
Speaker 2: but no one, no one's embolden enough to have an

2202
01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:30,240
Speaker 2: opinion of like publicly. That's what I'm saying. I get that,

2203
01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:36,120
Speaker 2: but I'm like, don't, don't, don't, don't hide your support

2204
01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:38,600
Speaker 2: from me. Yeah, but I think people was waiting for

2205
01:49:38,640 --> 01:49:41,639
Speaker 2: the music to support to show that support, not show

2206
01:49:41,720 --> 01:49:44,559
Speaker 2: support against holding Kendrick down against a meme. I'm not

2207
01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:46,160
Speaker 2: talking about the meme. I'm just saying, like this is

2208
01:49:46,160 --> 01:49:48,800
Speaker 2: after the record already came out, you know him just

2209
01:49:48,840 --> 01:49:50,840
Speaker 2: like I know him. You know what's about to happen.

2210
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:55,000
Speaker 2: Don't don't be back channeling and be quiet about your

2211
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:59,640
Speaker 2: support to me. That's not that's disingenuous, you know what

2212
01:49:59,640 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 2: I mean?

2213
01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 4: But do you think that also happened to Drake once

2214
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:05,599
Speaker 4: the public perception went towards Kendrick? So I think we're

2215
01:50:05,600 --> 01:50:07,800
Speaker 4: just talking about like wishy washy people in general, that

2216
01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:09,559
Speaker 4: they're just going to go to whatever side is happening

2217
01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:09,880
Speaker 4: at the.

2218
01:50:09,800 --> 01:50:14,719
Speaker 2: Moment, agreed, which is why I operated the way I operated.

2219
01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:19,120
Speaker 2: I'm not wishy washy type moutfucker. I you that wouldn't

2220
01:50:19,120 --> 01:50:20,559
Speaker 2: think it was crazy at to pop out to see

2221
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:23,639
Speaker 2: certain people in that stage that Drake has helped along

2222
01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:26,880
Speaker 2: their journey and has publicly supported Drake stand on that

2223
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:31,760
Speaker 2: stage and celebrate a song calling him a pedophile. No,

2224
01:50:32,080 --> 01:50:34,559
Speaker 2: you didn't think it was nothing crazy about that. You

2225
01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:36,759
Speaker 2: ain't look at nobody like yo, but ain't that your man? Nope?

2226
01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:39,720
Speaker 4: Would you do that?

2227
01:50:40,320 --> 01:50:40,680
Speaker 2: Do what.

2228
01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:45,040
Speaker 4: If somebody had been your friend for I don't know

2229
01:50:45,080 --> 01:50:47,280
Speaker 4: twenty years, had met your kids, been in your house,

2230
01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:49,840
Speaker 4: and then someone else called them a pedophile that you

2231
01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:51,439
Speaker 4: don't even really have a relationship with like that, would

2232
01:50:51,479 --> 01:50:52,840
Speaker 4: you be dancing at a show.

2233
01:50:53,200 --> 01:50:55,439
Speaker 2: It depends on the violation that that person put me

2234
01:50:55,439 --> 01:50:56,000
Speaker 2: in that position.

2235
01:50:59,280 --> 01:51:04,320
Speaker 4: Okay, fair, we'll do that. So, I mean, I don't

2236
01:51:04,360 --> 01:51:08,080
Speaker 4: know the relationship between Lebron and Drake for real. I

2237
01:51:08,120 --> 01:51:09,880
Speaker 4: don't know if he ever violated him. But we're just

2238
01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:13,200
Speaker 4: speaking in hypotheticals now all that we saw there, Yeah,

2239
01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:13,519
Speaker 4: more or.

2240
01:51:13,560 --> 01:51:17,160
Speaker 2: Less hypothetically speaking if you violate me.

2241
01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:21,639
Speaker 4: Okay, So we're just going to assume that a crazy

2242
01:51:21,720 --> 01:51:26,160
Speaker 4: violation happened between me and my son walking out with

2243
01:51:26,200 --> 01:51:28,960
Speaker 4: you at your LA show to then like a few

2244
01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:31,280
Speaker 4: weeks later, now I'm dancing with.

2245
01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:33,320
Speaker 2: Him at the Athletes and shit.

2246
01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:35,840
Speaker 4: Yeah. And I'm not talking about any specific people that

2247
01:51:36,240 --> 01:51:36,680
Speaker 4: I felt like.

2248
01:51:36,680 --> 01:51:39,080
Speaker 2: I thought he said. I thought he said on stage.

2249
01:51:39,479 --> 01:51:40,439
Speaker 2: Lebron wasn't on stage.

2250
01:51:40,479 --> 01:51:43,559
Speaker 4: I meant just in general, at the pope he wanted

2251
01:51:43,560 --> 01:51:46,360
Speaker 4: to be. He was looking at Russell like ye.

2252
01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:49,639
Speaker 2: Savannah was like, nigga, you ain't doing that, Like no.

2253
01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:53,080
Speaker 2: So to my point, not everybody's as invested as I am. Fair,

2254
01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:55,240
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like Mam said, like he

2255
01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:57,479
Speaker 2: met him in twenty twelve and they got cool over

2256
01:51:57,479 --> 01:52:00,120
Speaker 2: the last few years. These are my people for eighteen years.

2257
01:52:00,200 --> 01:52:02,360
Speaker 2: That's not the same thing, right, let's start there. The

2258
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 2: second thing is, you gotta look at lebron. Remember in

2259
01:52:04,960 --> 01:52:06,240
Speaker 2: the top of the At the top of the show,

2260
01:52:06,280 --> 01:52:09,400
Speaker 2: I said, sometimes business is just business. Everybody that you

2261
01:52:09,479 --> 01:52:11,360
Speaker 2: signed to a record label or having your album you're

2262
01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:13,880
Speaker 2: not necessarily friends with. It's just all this person fits

2263
01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:15,920
Speaker 2: on the project. Order let's do some business, or let's

2264
01:52:15,920 --> 01:52:18,439
Speaker 2: make some money together, whatever the case may be. That's

2265
01:52:18,479 --> 01:52:22,000
Speaker 2: not the same thing. So I'm not just hear me out.

2266
01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:26,639
Speaker 2: So what I'm saying is if I don't owe you shit,

2267
01:52:27,680 --> 01:52:29,920
Speaker 2: I don't owe you anything. Like if I'm going to

2268
01:52:29,960 --> 01:52:31,600
Speaker 2: go to this pop and ass concert, I'm gonna go

2269
01:52:31,640 --> 01:52:33,479
Speaker 2: to the pop and ass concert. Has nothing to do

2270
01:52:33,760 --> 01:52:37,439
Speaker 2: with our relationship. Again, that's me being probably a little

2271
01:52:37,439 --> 01:52:41,000
Speaker 2: spectrum and being able to compartmentalize my relationships and my emotions.

2272
01:52:41,320 --> 01:52:43,360
Speaker 2: But I would assume that's the same thing for most people,

2273
01:52:43,439 --> 01:52:46,120
Speaker 2: or for a lot of men's being able to, Hey,

2274
01:52:46,240 --> 01:52:48,320
Speaker 2: let's truncate our emotions and let's just go and enjoy

2275
01:52:48,439 --> 01:52:49,360
Speaker 2: this show or whatever.

2276
01:52:49,520 --> 01:52:51,800
Speaker 4: And I fully agree with that point there, and again

2277
01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:54,400
Speaker 4: we're using the hypothetical he.

2278
01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 2: Don't believe that. He he just said he was mad

2279
01:52:57,160 --> 01:53:00,000
Speaker 2: about people not showing they support publicly for Kendrick when

2280
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:01,760
Speaker 2: Drake was dropping me. Yeah, but I didn't. I wasn't

2281
01:53:01,760 --> 01:53:03,920
Speaker 2: talking about athletes that he does. They're talking about people

2282
01:53:03,920 --> 01:53:06,679
Speaker 2: that he knows. Yeah, for twenty years.

2283
01:53:08,120 --> 01:53:10,960
Speaker 4: I just said it was twenty years. We've what they

2284
01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:14,080
Speaker 4: both explained that. Lebron has said out loud, He's been

2285
01:53:14,120 --> 01:53:16,200
Speaker 4: in my house with my kids, like they have a

2286
01:53:16,240 --> 01:53:18,760
Speaker 4: real relationship. I don't really know any real business they've

2287
01:53:18,760 --> 01:53:21,559
Speaker 4: done together, outside of maybe both being signed to Sprite.

2288
01:53:21,720 --> 01:53:23,599
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm not saying that they've done business.

2289
01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:25,760
Speaker 4: I was using that as a hypothetical. Weak Again, we

2290
01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:28,120
Speaker 4: don't know that. I don't look at Bron and Drake

2291
01:53:28,160 --> 01:53:31,080
Speaker 4: from what we know as they were a business relationship

2292
01:53:31,080 --> 01:53:32,479
Speaker 4: that had met a few years ago.

2293
01:53:33,080 --> 01:53:35,880
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm not drawing that parallel. He just he

2294
01:53:35,920 --> 01:53:39,360
Speaker 2: introduced that, so that was a different scenario. What I'm

2295
01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:42,559
Speaker 2: saying is, overall, I don't think it's that deep for

2296
01:53:42,640 --> 01:53:46,240
Speaker 2: most people. Okay, I come from radio. The average listener

2297
01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:48,240
Speaker 2: don't give a fuck. They just want to hear a

2298
01:53:48,240 --> 01:53:50,360
Speaker 2: popin ass song. You know what I'm saying, it's just

2299
01:53:50,360 --> 01:53:52,719
Speaker 2: like on YouTube, if you like, y'all have a pod,

2300
01:53:53,000 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 2: if you do a YouTube, you might see you know,

2301
01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:57,959
Speaker 2: or forty eight percent of you guys are not subscribed

2302
01:53:57,960 --> 01:54:01,839
Speaker 2: to the channel, right. It's no, it's just passive consumption.

2303
01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:05,920
Speaker 2: So I don't think it's personal. If Lebron or this

2304
01:54:05,960 --> 01:54:08,200
Speaker 2: person goes to the fucking concert, bro, like it's a

2305
01:54:08,240 --> 01:54:10,760
Speaker 2: concert that they want to go go be at and

2306
01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:12,280
Speaker 2: they want to have a good time. I don't look

2307
01:54:12,280 --> 01:54:15,200
Speaker 2: at it as me saying fuck you. It's just like

2308
01:54:15,240 --> 01:54:16,880
Speaker 2: that's a concert I want to be at. Yeah. But

2309
01:54:16,920 --> 01:54:19,200
Speaker 2: then y'all, nigga, y'all was mad that Game wasn't there.

2310
01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:22,439
Speaker 2: Not Hugh, but a lot of people from the West Coast,

2311
01:54:22,640 --> 01:54:24,920
Speaker 2: a lot of artists they was, They you know, kind

2312
01:54:24,920 --> 01:54:27,120
Speaker 2: of gave Game some heat online, like he wasn't there,

2313
01:54:27,560 --> 01:54:30,840
Speaker 2: he didn't show support for the West Coast and all

2314
01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:33,440
Speaker 2: of the artists collectively coming together and having a beautiful moment.

2315
01:54:33,560 --> 01:54:36,600
Speaker 2: Who gave him heat online? Everybody? Game addressed it. He

2316
01:54:36,640 --> 01:54:39,320
Speaker 2: spoke about it online. No, No, but I'm saying who was

2317
01:54:39,400 --> 01:54:41,800
Speaker 2: saying that. I'm just saying I don't know who in particular,

2318
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:46,040
Speaker 2: but Game obviously had some energy and some words coming

2319
01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:48,400
Speaker 2: his way, and he felt inclined to go on IG

2320
01:54:48,600 --> 01:54:52,600
Speaker 2: Live or post a video on ag explaining why he

2321
01:54:52,640 --> 01:54:55,440
Speaker 2: wasn't there. You know, he does what he want to do.

2322
01:54:55,880 --> 01:54:59,120
Speaker 2: Drake is his brother, whatever, whatever, whatever like. So obviously

2323
01:54:59,160 --> 01:55:02,680
Speaker 2: he felt some heat from him not being at that show.

2324
01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:06,600
Speaker 2: So again there is a thing where people feel like, yo,

2325
01:55:06,720 --> 01:55:10,440
Speaker 2: like I can't support that. Now. Game may support Kendrick,

2326
01:55:10,520 --> 01:55:13,360
Speaker 2: he may love Kendrick, but he can't support that show

2327
01:55:14,520 --> 01:55:17,880
Speaker 2: because in that moment, that song, that message and what

2328
01:55:18,040 --> 01:55:21,080
Speaker 2: is who it's going at, who's who it's attacking, is

2329
01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:24,640
Speaker 2: somebody else who he has a fondness of a brotherhood

2330
01:55:24,640 --> 01:55:26,640
Speaker 2: where he's like, yo, I can't I can't support that.

2331
01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:29,360
Speaker 2: I love Kendrick, I love my city, I support my city,

2332
01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:33,000
Speaker 2: but I can't support that moment because that song and

2333
01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:36,800
Speaker 2: that message in that song is going as somebody excuse

2334
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:38,280
Speaker 2: me who I respect and who I have a love

2335
01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:41,000
Speaker 2: for when I can't, I can't do that. So yeah, people, people,

2336
01:55:41,080 --> 01:55:44,440
Speaker 2: some people on that stage knew that they weren't supposed

2337
01:55:44,440 --> 01:55:46,920
Speaker 2: to be there. But you know, again it's people looking for,

2338
01:55:47,160 --> 01:55:48,880
Speaker 2: you know, the capitalize off a moment, like you know,

2339
01:55:48,920 --> 01:55:51,240
Speaker 2: it's a streaming. We know how many people gonna be

2340
01:55:51,240 --> 01:55:54,680
Speaker 2: watching this. Everybody want to be seen, and you know,

2341
01:55:54,880 --> 01:55:57,360
Speaker 2: I get it, but you can't say that, you know,

2342
01:55:57,600 --> 01:55:59,280
Speaker 2: I just you know, it's the music, and I could

2343
01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:03,320
Speaker 2: support I went. There is a thing though, where, yes,

2344
01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:07,040
Speaker 2: it is music, but I know this this dude person

2345
01:56:07,160 --> 01:56:09,320
Speaker 2: on a personal level, and I can't support that because

2346
01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:11,800
Speaker 2: me and him relationship where he's done. You know, we've

2347
01:56:11,880 --> 01:56:14,640
Speaker 2: we've done things for each other, showed you my family,

2348
01:56:14,680 --> 01:56:17,000
Speaker 2: love opened his home to me. I've opened my home

2349
01:56:17,000 --> 01:56:18,840
Speaker 2: to him like this. So there's a certain thing where

2350
01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:22,520
Speaker 2: like I can't support that. I love Kendrick, you know,

2351
01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:23,960
Speaker 2: I love my city. I love a lot of those

2352
01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:26,560
Speaker 2: guys on the stage, but I can't be there because

2353
01:56:27,240 --> 01:56:30,200
Speaker 2: that moment is you know, it's going as somebody who

2354
01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:32,560
Speaker 2: I also have a love for. Yeah, that's everybody's choice

2355
01:56:32,560 --> 01:56:34,800
Speaker 2: to make, no, and but that's I'm just speaking to

2356
01:56:35,200 --> 01:56:37,920
Speaker 2: you know the fact that certain people were there, and

2357
01:56:38,000 --> 01:56:40,080
Speaker 2: yes they might want to just be there to support Kendrick,

2358
01:56:40,160 --> 01:56:43,360
Speaker 2: but you know what that moment it was about, and

2359
01:56:43,400 --> 01:56:46,240
Speaker 2: it's like I can't you know, we know everybody can

2360
01:56:46,280 --> 01:56:48,080
Speaker 2: make that decision, but it was I mean it was

2361
01:56:49,120 --> 01:56:51,120
Speaker 2: there's a lot of people there. No, absolutely, it was

2362
01:56:51,160 --> 01:56:52,840
Speaker 2: a lot of people there. But some of those a

2363
01:56:52,880 --> 01:56:56,000
Speaker 2: lot of those people that was there, they knew that.

2364
01:56:56,000 --> 01:56:57,480
Speaker 2: It was like, Yo, this is going to look the table,

2365
01:56:57,560 --> 01:56:59,640
Speaker 2: this is going to look away. Like I'm in at

2366
01:56:59,640 --> 01:57:02,280
Speaker 2: this show, supporting this record. The song is playing, I'm

2367
01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:05,800
Speaker 2: on stage dancing to it, I'm in the video. You

2368
01:57:06,240 --> 01:57:08,800
Speaker 2: all of that. We know what that is. That's very

2369
01:57:08,840 --> 01:57:11,960
Speaker 2: strategic shit. That's very thought out shit. That's not just

2370
01:57:12,120 --> 01:57:13,600
Speaker 2: I'm going to a show to have a good time.

2371
01:57:13,640 --> 01:57:15,080
Speaker 2: Because I'm going to the show to have a good time,

2372
01:57:15,160 --> 01:57:16,920
Speaker 2: I'll be in the skyboxer. Won't nobody know I'm here.

2373
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:20,120
Speaker 2: But if I'm on stage and I start dancing, and

2374
01:57:20,160 --> 01:57:21,960
Speaker 2: I start and then at the end of the picture

2375
01:57:22,040 --> 01:57:24,800
Speaker 2: of that's I want to be seen, I'm making I'm here.

2376
01:57:25,160 --> 01:57:27,360
Speaker 2: Or to be fair, there's those skyboxes at the Forum.

2377
01:57:27,560 --> 01:57:30,480
Speaker 2: Well at the Forum, No, but I could have been

2378
01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:32,440
Speaker 2: in that building and not been on the stage, is

2379
01:57:32,480 --> 01:57:35,440
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Being on the stage is a statement.

2380
01:57:36,440 --> 01:57:40,800
Speaker 2: I stand by this. I support this message. I know

2381
01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:42,400
Speaker 2: people that were on the stage that just got up

2382
01:57:42,400 --> 01:57:44,360
Speaker 2: there just and they weren't trying to make a statement.

2383
01:57:46,360 --> 01:57:48,320
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna speak for them, but that have a

2384
01:57:48,320 --> 01:57:51,920
Speaker 2: personal relationship with Drake. They have a report, not a report,

2385
01:57:51,920 --> 01:57:53,640
Speaker 2: a personal relationship with Drake. I don't know what the

2386
01:57:53,640 --> 01:57:56,360
Speaker 2: renature of the relationship is moving.

2387
01:57:56,120 --> 01:57:58,480
Speaker 3: Forward, and we're gonna wrap this up soon. Hed I

2388
01:57:58,480 --> 01:58:01,440
Speaker 3: have a question. Maul went a lot, both of you did,

2389
01:58:01,440 --> 01:58:03,720
Speaker 3: but Mal has this type of platform, so he really

2390
01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:06,520
Speaker 3: went viral a lot with a lot of clips talking

2391
01:58:06,520 --> 01:58:08,800
Speaker 3: about Drake in the battle. What was your perception of

2392
01:58:09,000 --> 01:58:11,880
Speaker 3: Maul and the clips and the messaging in those clips?

2393
01:58:12,280 --> 01:58:17,600
Speaker 2: Off first, look, not now, what do you mean like

2394
01:58:17,680 --> 01:58:18,680
Speaker 2: back then? Yeah?

2395
01:58:18,680 --> 01:58:20,360
Speaker 4: Back then? And to be honest, we won't jump you.

2396
01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:20,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2397
01:58:20,720 --> 01:58:23,000
Speaker 2: Me and Jeremy had some slick shit to say. Well,

2398
01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:25,080
Speaker 2: there was a lot of people. Well, I don't personally,

2399
01:58:25,200 --> 01:58:27,440
Speaker 2: I don't, If I'm being honest, I don't personally give

2400
01:58:27,440 --> 01:58:30,360
Speaker 2: a fuck, Like I don't ingest other people's energy like that,

2401
01:58:30,440 --> 01:58:34,680
Speaker 2: Like I don't like, I just don't. That's not really

2402
01:58:34,720 --> 01:58:36,200
Speaker 2: what I do. But there are a lot of people

2403
01:58:36,200 --> 01:58:36,880
Speaker 2: who felt away.

2404
01:58:38,360 --> 01:58:41,520
Speaker 4: Why would they feel a way? Was there anything he

2405
01:58:41,560 --> 01:58:43,880
Speaker 4: said that was a violation or over the line or

2406
01:58:43,920 --> 01:58:44,680
Speaker 4: anything crazy?

2407
01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:51,800
Speaker 2: I don't remember everything he said. I remember there was

2408
01:58:51,840 --> 01:58:57,440
Speaker 2: one thing in particular where people had where somebody I

2409
01:58:57,440 --> 01:59:01,720
Speaker 2: think someone had made reference. Somebody said I don't remember when,

2410
01:59:01,800 --> 01:59:04,160
Speaker 2: I don't remember what you said, but there were people

2411
01:59:04,160 --> 01:59:07,160
Speaker 2: that are upset what you said. I wish I could

2412
01:59:07,200 --> 01:59:10,320
Speaker 2: remember the context. But it was just like because you

2413
01:59:10,440 --> 01:59:13,880
Speaker 2: because you come off as very delusional in the way

2414
01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:19,280
Speaker 2: that you approach your or like your argument. I love that.

2415
01:59:20,560 --> 01:59:23,000
Speaker 2: I actually envied to be honest with you. I loved it.

2416
01:59:23,040 --> 01:59:25,000
Speaker 2: I come off delusional because I know exactly what the

2417
01:59:25,000 --> 01:59:28,800
Speaker 2: fuck I'm saying and why I'm saying it. Yeah, but again,

2418
01:59:28,840 --> 01:59:30,440
Speaker 2: I can't speak on certain things publicly.

2419
01:59:30,520 --> 01:59:32,760
Speaker 4: So why do you feel he comes off delusion?

2420
01:59:38,040 --> 01:59:39,600
Speaker 2: And were all of these people from Cali that felt

2421
01:59:39,600 --> 01:59:46,920
Speaker 2: like that? Nah? M hm, well you said why yeah,

2422
01:59:49,120 --> 01:59:53,320
Speaker 2: just very like some of the stuff is very far

2423
01:59:53,360 --> 01:59:57,000
Speaker 2: fetched and Narnia ish. What's fart that I said?

2424
01:59:57,400 --> 01:59:59,200
Speaker 3: Yes, such as so as you're saying you don't remember

2425
01:59:59,400 --> 02:00:00,640
Speaker 3: what he's saying, I dont remember.

2426
02:00:00,400 --> 02:00:01,840
Speaker 2: What they said, Like friends of you like the thing

2427
02:00:01,880 --> 02:00:05,360
Speaker 2: you said today, Like nobody can convince you otherwise about

2428
02:00:05,360 --> 02:00:09,200
Speaker 2: what about your stance on who had the better bars,

2429
02:00:09,240 --> 02:00:13,480
Speaker 2: who won or whatever? Right? Okay, so to me, like,

2430
02:00:13,520 --> 02:00:15,520
Speaker 2: for instance, but why is that delusion for me? And

2431
02:00:15,560 --> 02:00:19,080
Speaker 2: it's people that write music and rappers that rap at

2432
02:00:19,080 --> 02:00:21,520
Speaker 2: a very high level that feel the same way. So

2433
02:00:21,880 --> 02:00:25,040
Speaker 2: to me, that's just not a very whole human fuck music.

2434
02:00:25,560 --> 02:00:27,800
Speaker 2: Anybody who has a stance that you can't convince me

2435
02:00:27,840 --> 02:00:30,920
Speaker 2: otherwise of anything, no matter what you present No, no, no, no, no,

2436
02:00:31,080 --> 02:00:33,400
Speaker 2: not anything. I'm talking about these bars that you can't

2437
02:00:33,400 --> 02:00:35,879
Speaker 2: convince me that. So what I'm saying is as opposed

2438
02:00:35,920 --> 02:00:38,840
Speaker 2: to having that approach, the approach will probably be will

2439
02:00:38,880 --> 02:00:41,160
Speaker 2: present presented to me and I make an assessment. You

2440
02:00:41,280 --> 02:00:45,680
Speaker 2: shutting down the presentation, the presentation of any assessment. To me,

2441
02:00:45,840 --> 02:00:48,240
Speaker 2: that just that's more of a personal thing than it

2442
02:00:48,280 --> 02:00:53,120
Speaker 2: is a rap thing. Me shutting down like you're saying,

2443
02:00:53,160 --> 02:00:56,280
Speaker 2: nobody can convince me otherwise no matter what that you're

2444
02:00:56,280 --> 02:00:59,160
Speaker 2: shutting down any and all energy that Drake had didn't

2445
02:00:59,160 --> 02:01:01,440
Speaker 2: have the better bars? Correct, Yeah, because I listened to

2446
02:01:01,520 --> 02:01:04,360
Speaker 2: the music and I trust my ear in my brain,

2447
02:01:04,520 --> 02:01:08,040
Speaker 2: I feel you. But that's just not where I am.

2448
02:01:08,080 --> 02:01:09,240
Speaker 2: So that's just what.

2449
02:01:09,640 --> 02:01:11,920
Speaker 4: So do you feel that if somebody doesn't have the

2450
02:01:12,000 --> 02:01:13,879
Speaker 4: same opinion as you, they're delusional?

2451
02:01:14,200 --> 02:01:14,440
Speaker 2: No?

2452
02:01:15,480 --> 02:01:17,120
Speaker 4: Okay, So I guess I'm trying to figure out exactly

2453
02:01:17,120 --> 02:01:19,280
Speaker 4: what you're saying so people, because me and mall disagreed,

2454
02:01:19,560 --> 02:01:21,200
Speaker 4: but we talked it out. I mean, of course the

2455
02:01:21,240 --> 02:01:23,600
Speaker 4: clips went viral, but there were forty five minute conversations

2456
02:01:23,640 --> 02:01:28,120
Speaker 4: with that entire thing. So even if we disagreed, I

2457
02:01:28,160 --> 02:01:30,800
Speaker 4: didn't think Maul was delusional and not hearing me. I

2458
02:01:30,840 --> 02:01:35,200
Speaker 4: just felt that's how Maul felt. And music to me,

2459
02:01:35,200 --> 02:01:37,640
Speaker 4: I don't think you can me because music is like food.

2460
02:01:37,640 --> 02:01:40,320
Speaker 2: It's only delusional because it was it wasn't it wasn't

2461
02:01:40,360 --> 02:01:42,680
Speaker 2: resonating with what other people felt in the battle. That's

2462
02:01:42,680 --> 02:01:44,760
Speaker 2: what's delusion, because if I was saying YOUO, Kendrick is

2463
02:01:44,760 --> 02:01:48,160
Speaker 2: smashing them, but anybody know what you're talking about and.

2464
02:01:48,520 --> 02:01:50,640
Speaker 4: Other people's other people with social media can't. I'm more

2465
02:01:50,920 --> 02:01:54,440
Speaker 4: I guess, asking head, which what you mean by that? Like,

2466
02:01:55,880 --> 02:01:58,440
Speaker 4: I don't know if he didn't receive information. I just

2467
02:01:58,520 --> 02:02:00,560
Speaker 4: think that's how he felt the same way this you felk.

2468
02:02:00,880 --> 02:02:02,840
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm not saying in that sense. I'm not

2469
02:02:02,880 --> 02:02:06,760
Speaker 2: saying that. I'm saying to me, like creating a world

2470
02:02:06,840 --> 02:02:09,400
Speaker 2: in which no one can pull you out of, no

2471
02:02:09,400 --> 02:02:12,400
Speaker 2: matter what, no matter what it is. I don't. I don't,

2472
02:02:12,480 --> 02:02:15,400
Speaker 2: I don't occupy that space like I'm willing to. Like

2473
02:02:15,440 --> 02:02:19,680
Speaker 2: I've had conversations with like skinheads like Arian Brotherhood, neo

2474
02:02:19,760 --> 02:02:23,280
Speaker 2: Nazi motherfuckers, dudes would like schwash on their necks, and

2475
02:02:23,640 --> 02:02:25,600
Speaker 2: they're like, you know, I don't like these type of

2476
02:02:26,080 --> 02:02:27,840
Speaker 2: this group of people. I don't like black people. It's

2477
02:02:27,920 --> 02:02:30,800
Speaker 2: like for me, I want to know why and not

2478
02:02:30,840 --> 02:02:33,280
Speaker 2: necessarily for them to change my mind on how I feel.

2479
02:02:33,400 --> 02:02:37,720
Speaker 2: But I'm open to any possibility. Him saying there's nothing

2480
02:02:37,760 --> 02:02:39,440
Speaker 2: you can do to me shuts down the realm of

2481
02:02:39,440 --> 02:02:42,000
Speaker 2: any possibility. So there was nothing you could do.

2482
02:02:42,160 --> 02:02:46,120
Speaker 3: Had had Is there anything anybody can do to convince

2483
02:02:46,240 --> 02:02:47,680
Speaker 3: you that Drake won this battle?

2484
02:02:48,120 --> 02:02:50,400
Speaker 2: Present presented to me, I'm open to hearing it.

2485
02:02:51,400 --> 02:02:53,200
Speaker 4: But you heard that.

2486
02:02:53,520 --> 02:02:55,320
Speaker 2: That's not enough. You don't think, you don't think, You

2487
02:02:55,320 --> 02:02:58,600
Speaker 2: don't think Drake rapped better than Kendrick and family matters

2488
02:02:58,640 --> 02:03:03,200
Speaker 2: than than than Kendrick Goon like us, No, you think

2489
02:03:03,280 --> 02:03:06,400
Speaker 2: Kendrick rapped better. No, but I'm willing. I'm willing to

2490
02:03:06,640 --> 02:03:07,960
Speaker 2: receive presentation.

2491
02:03:10,680 --> 02:03:13,640
Speaker 4: Why do you want me to play it?

2492
02:03:13,120 --> 02:03:13,160
Speaker 2: So?

2493
02:03:13,880 --> 02:03:16,440
Speaker 3: The purpose the purpose of us asking these follow up questions.

2494
02:03:16,520 --> 02:03:18,400
Speaker 3: Is I get what you're saying. Where you can say

2495
02:03:18,400 --> 02:03:21,800
Speaker 3: that someone's delusional if they can't be convinced of something

2496
02:03:21,840 --> 02:03:25,000
Speaker 3: and they're shutting down all outside perspectives. But in a

2497
02:03:25,080 --> 02:03:28,720
Speaker 3: rap battle, there's only the bars and the music. So

2498
02:03:28,760 --> 02:03:32,440
Speaker 3: if you've heard and dissected both songs just because someone,

2499
02:03:32,640 --> 02:03:35,320
Speaker 3: are you saying that if I brought up the lyrics

2500
02:03:35,320 --> 02:03:37,640
Speaker 3: to a song you already know, you've already heard, and

2501
02:03:37,720 --> 02:03:40,120
Speaker 3: present them to you differently, there's a chance that you

2502
02:03:40,120 --> 02:03:41,800
Speaker 3: would change your mind about this battle.

2503
02:03:41,840 --> 02:03:43,400
Speaker 4: You think that that's possible.

2504
02:03:43,080 --> 02:03:45,000
Speaker 2: That's possible. Anything is possible. But that's not what I

2505
02:03:45,040 --> 02:03:47,000
Speaker 2: was making reference to about delusion. It was a thing

2506
02:03:47,040 --> 02:03:50,360
Speaker 2: when I was saying I couldn't remember, like when you

2507
02:03:50,400 --> 02:03:52,680
Speaker 2: asked me before, like has he said something? He said

2508
02:03:52,680 --> 02:03:55,280
Speaker 2: something that made me think he was delusion before? Okay,

2509
02:03:55,360 --> 02:03:57,320
Speaker 2: I wasn't making a reference to right now, I wish

2510
02:03:57,320 --> 02:03:59,880
Speaker 2: you were. I'm curious what it was what I said

2511
02:04:00,040 --> 02:04:01,840
Speaker 2: that Well, I said that woul seem like just because

2512
02:04:01,840 --> 02:04:04,000
Speaker 2: you asked me, you know, we know you know me

2513
02:04:04,120 --> 02:04:06,800
Speaker 2: like I win you So before this battle, have you

2514
02:04:06,840 --> 02:04:10,000
Speaker 2: ever thought Mall's delusion? Yes? When bro, are you on

2515
02:04:10,160 --> 02:04:12,200
Speaker 2: me to recall on this. Okay, well, if I said

2516
02:04:12,200 --> 02:04:13,720
Speaker 2: I think had a delusional I can tell you why

2517
02:04:13,720 --> 02:04:15,480
Speaker 2: I think. Okay, well I'll recant it because I can't

2518
02:04:15,480 --> 02:04:17,800
Speaker 2: remember right now. Okay, I'll let you know. I'll let

2519
02:04:17,840 --> 02:04:18,440
Speaker 2: you know for sure.

2520
02:04:18,520 --> 02:04:20,880
Speaker 3: We do have access to the viral the two viral

2521
02:04:20,880 --> 02:04:23,360
Speaker 3: clips of mal if you'd like us to play them

2522
02:04:23,400 --> 02:04:25,840
Speaker 3: and see if you find a delusional moment in them.

2523
02:04:26,240 --> 02:04:28,680
Speaker 2: No, I mean I don't. He asked me from before too,

2524
02:04:29,120 --> 02:04:31,600
Speaker 2: Like there's been several moments where I was like, Oh,

2525
02:04:31,640 --> 02:04:33,400
Speaker 2: that's kind of that's kind of out there.

2526
02:04:33,920 --> 02:04:38,280
Speaker 4: Okay, that's but does that warrant the word delusion? There's

2527
02:04:38,280 --> 02:04:40,360
Speaker 4: a lot of things that I've disagreed with plenty of people,

2528
02:04:40,400 --> 02:04:44,360
Speaker 4: but we just have far different opinions on this. I

2529
02:04:44,400 --> 02:04:47,120
Speaker 4: don't view that as delusion. To me, is a pattern

2530
02:04:47,280 --> 02:04:50,960
Speaker 4: amongst your entire life delusion, and it is based off

2531
02:04:50,960 --> 02:04:53,000
Speaker 4: something we disagree with and can't come.

2532
02:04:52,880 --> 02:04:55,560
Speaker 2: To terms delusion as in reality adjacent.

2533
02:04:56,320 --> 02:04:57,960
Speaker 4: But that has to be a pattern, because there's some

2534
02:04:57,960 --> 02:05:00,560
Speaker 4: stuff that is probably reality adjacent to me, but it's

2535
02:05:00,640 --> 02:05:02,840
Speaker 4: few things, like it's not a pattern with me where

2536
02:05:02,880 --> 02:05:06,400
Speaker 4: everything is that far fucking fetched. But there's certain topics

2537
02:05:06,400 --> 02:05:10,400
Speaker 4: that I do feel that I wouldn't call somebody that delusion.

2538
02:05:10,880 --> 02:05:13,800
Speaker 4: If that is a significant thing that is in your life,

2539
02:05:13,800 --> 02:05:17,680
Speaker 4: with everything that you face, that's delusion. If somebody said,

2540
02:05:17,720 --> 02:05:20,360
Speaker 4: you know, I think nas one over J and I

2541
02:05:20,400 --> 02:05:23,000
Speaker 4: start breaking down every fact that Jay said in Takeover

2542
02:05:23,320 --> 02:05:25,280
Speaker 4: and it being the Doors being a better song, and

2543
02:05:25,280 --> 02:05:27,280
Speaker 4: they were like, nah, I like dick sucking lips better.

2544
02:05:27,600 --> 02:05:29,920
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna call them delusional. We just disagree there.

2545
02:05:30,440 --> 02:05:34,280
Speaker 2: That's a fair statement. That's just like you said, it's objective. Yeah.

2546
02:05:34,680 --> 02:05:41,880
Speaker 2: I just feel like we're gonna hang on. I will

2547
02:05:41,920 --> 02:05:44,040
Speaker 2: go back and look and try to figure out where

2548
02:05:44,240 --> 02:05:46,240
Speaker 2: where I had those those thoughts. It's been like two

2549
02:05:46,440 --> 02:05:48,840
Speaker 2: maybe two or maybe three, I don't know, And I

2550
02:05:48,840 --> 02:05:50,760
Speaker 2: will find them and I and I'll and i'll and

2551
02:05:50,760 --> 02:05:51,840
Speaker 2: I'll show them send them to you.

2552
02:05:51,840 --> 02:05:55,200
Speaker 4: Okay, Al, that's a bit to close out. Thank both

2553
02:05:55,200 --> 02:05:58,960
Speaker 4: of you guys for this. I think this was actually good.

2554
02:05:59,000 --> 02:06:03,920
Speaker 4: I feel like this battle has put stand culture in

2555
02:06:04,000 --> 02:06:05,960
Speaker 4: a different light from me, and I don't think either

2556
02:06:06,000 --> 02:06:08,760
Speaker 4: of you guys are that whatsoever. I think the reflection

2557
02:06:09,680 --> 02:06:13,080
Speaker 4: of what happened in this battle made Eminem's stand song

2558
02:06:13,280 --> 02:06:16,480
Speaker 4: seem normal, like lockhard girl in a trunk. Before what

2559
02:06:16,520 --> 02:06:19,920
Speaker 4: I've seen on this fucking timeline, this battle turned the

2560
02:06:19,960 --> 02:06:22,600
Speaker 4: world into a very weird, fucking place. I thought this

2561
02:06:22,720 --> 02:06:24,600
Speaker 4: was gonna be the greatest thing ever for hip hop,

2562
02:06:24,880 --> 02:06:26,880
Speaker 4: and I feel like it may have been the fucking worst.

2563
02:06:27,920 --> 02:06:30,360
Speaker 4: So to see you two sit down and just chop

2564
02:06:30,400 --> 02:06:32,000
Speaker 4: it up for the year anniversary. I do think this

2565
02:06:32,040 --> 02:06:34,880
Speaker 4: is important. Not that the stands have any sense whatsoever.

2566
02:06:35,040 --> 02:06:37,920
Speaker 4: That's delusion to me is the Ovio community and the

2567
02:06:37,960 --> 02:06:38,839
Speaker 4: TDE community.

2568
02:06:39,120 --> 02:06:40,680
Speaker 2: That's delusion very much.

2569
02:06:40,760 --> 02:06:43,200
Speaker 4: So I don't think they're gonna look at this and

2570
02:06:43,240 --> 02:06:45,080
Speaker 4: be like, oh, two people can just talk and like

2571
02:06:45,160 --> 02:06:47,879
Speaker 4: everything be fine, Like we could just have different opinions.

2572
02:06:47,920 --> 02:06:50,080
Speaker 4: So I think this was great and I want to

2573
02:06:50,200 --> 02:06:57,160
Speaker 4: end it with positivity. Mall say something nice about Kendrick Lamar,

2574
02:06:58,480 --> 02:07:00,840
Speaker 4: So say something nice about Kendrick.

2575
02:07:00,600 --> 02:07:05,360
Speaker 2: Lamar said something NICs about Kendrick. Yeah. Well, I mean

2576
02:07:05,400 --> 02:07:09,520
Speaker 2: I feel like I've been I've always said what I

2577
02:07:09,520 --> 02:07:12,160
Speaker 2: didn't even say nothing yet your life, I've always I've

2578
02:07:12,240 --> 02:07:16,200
Speaker 2: always throughout throughout this entire you know year that we

2579
02:07:16,200 --> 02:07:22,240
Speaker 2: we just came through. I don't think i've ever always,

2580
02:07:22,280 --> 02:07:24,120
Speaker 2: never my attentions, But I don't think I've said it.

2581
02:07:24,120 --> 02:07:28,960
Speaker 2: I've never downplayed Kendrick's skill set, his ability, his h

2582
02:07:29,120 --> 02:07:30,880
Speaker 2: his status is an MC as a rapper.

2583
02:07:30,800 --> 02:07:35,480
Speaker 4: My question say something nice about Kendrick Lamar like what,

2584
02:07:35,520 --> 02:07:36,960
Speaker 4: I don't know him personal saying you know, I didn't

2585
02:07:36,960 --> 02:07:39,080
Speaker 4: downplay you as not saying something him as a rapper,

2586
02:07:39,400 --> 02:07:40,520
Speaker 4: him as a whatever.

2587
02:07:40,720 --> 02:07:42,760
Speaker 2: I don't know him as a person, so I can't say,

2588
02:07:43,040 --> 02:07:46,040
Speaker 2: no rapper, he's he's one of the il But I've

2589
02:07:46,080 --> 02:07:48,120
Speaker 2: always said this, he's one of the illis. He's one

2590
02:07:48,120 --> 02:07:50,800
Speaker 2: of the best of his generation. Like I like, I

2591
02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:53,600
Speaker 2: went to Mister Morale show with Rory said it was

2592
02:07:53,600 --> 02:07:55,320
Speaker 2: one of the best rap shows I've ever been to.

2593
02:07:55,680 --> 02:07:58,600
Speaker 2: Kendrick stage performance has gotten a million times better. He's

2594
02:07:58,640 --> 02:08:00,600
Speaker 2: a star. Like I've said all of these things already,

2595
02:08:00,680 --> 02:08:02,720
Speaker 2: but because in the battle I wasn't on the side

2596
02:08:02,720 --> 02:08:06,240
Speaker 2: of thinking euphoria or meet the Grahams was amazing. People

2597
02:08:06,240 --> 02:08:08,520
Speaker 2: feel like I hate Kendrick and I'm like, yo, did

2598
02:08:08,560 --> 02:08:10,400
Speaker 2: y'all not just see everything I said about him when

2599
02:08:10,440 --> 02:08:12,560
Speaker 2: Mister Morale came out and I said the album was

2600
02:08:12,560 --> 02:08:14,760
Speaker 2: incredible and he could probably turn that into a broad

2601
02:08:14,880 --> 02:08:18,800
Speaker 2: play because it plays like a playbook. Like I said

2602
02:08:18,840 --> 02:08:20,880
Speaker 2: all of these things about Kendrick, I fuck with Kendrick.

2603
02:08:21,040 --> 02:08:23,240
Speaker 2: I think he's amazing. I just think that in this

2604
02:08:23,440 --> 02:08:27,640
Speaker 2: moment he said things that's kind of like, that's a

2605
02:08:27,680 --> 02:08:29,640
Speaker 2: little crazy to say that and put that on another man.

2606
02:08:30,160 --> 02:08:32,560
Speaker 2: I don't like the record not saying Kendrick. I've never

2607
02:08:32,600 --> 02:08:34,520
Speaker 2: said Kendrick isn't dope and he can rap. He will

2608
02:08:34,560 --> 02:08:37,560
Speaker 2: never find me anywhere on the internet saying that, So

2609
02:08:37,680 --> 02:08:41,600
Speaker 2: I mean something nice about him. Yo, keep fucking putting

2610
02:08:41,640 --> 02:08:44,760
Speaker 2: out dope ass bars, keep putting out dope projects, like

2611
02:08:44,920 --> 02:08:47,000
Speaker 2: keep doing your thing on tour, like do all of that.

2612
02:08:47,360 --> 02:08:49,920
Speaker 2: I wish you stop performing that fucking record. I think

2613
02:08:49,960 --> 02:08:52,600
Speaker 2: that that's crazy. You don't need to perform that record,

2614
02:08:52,840 --> 02:08:54,840
Speaker 2: and that's to me, it's it's like you're making that

2615
02:08:54,880 --> 02:08:58,080
Speaker 2: a point to perform that record. His catalog is dope.

2616
02:08:58,120 --> 02:09:00,360
Speaker 2: He doesn't need to perform that record. But you know,

2617
02:09:00,480 --> 02:09:02,280
Speaker 2: I get it, have your victory laugh, But I just

2618
02:09:02,320 --> 02:09:05,160
Speaker 2: think that at some point you got to get away

2619
02:09:05,160 --> 02:09:08,720
Speaker 2: from that record because that energy, that message is like,

2620
02:09:09,200 --> 02:09:11,720
Speaker 2: that's disgusting to be out there rapping or even saying

2621
02:09:11,760 --> 02:09:15,680
Speaker 2: that word on stage. Every night. Like I've seen the

2622
02:09:15,800 --> 02:09:19,840
Speaker 2: JNS battle Kissing Beans and all these dudes that I

2623
02:09:19,920 --> 02:09:23,320
Speaker 2: grew up listening to. That's never a word anybody ever

2624
02:09:24,040 --> 02:09:26,560
Speaker 2: even throughout there, like you don't play with that. Words.

2625
02:09:26,600 --> 02:09:28,400
Speaker 2: I come from that. So that's why I'm always speaking

2626
02:09:28,440 --> 02:09:31,600
Speaker 2: to that because it's like, Yo, you heard what you

2627
02:09:31,640 --> 02:09:33,800
Speaker 2: just said about this dude, Like that's a little you

2628
02:09:33,920 --> 02:09:37,080
Speaker 2: throwing that on some AMA's jacket is the worst thing

2629
02:09:37,080 --> 02:09:39,520
Speaker 2: you can put on somebody. So to me, I just

2630
02:09:39,520 --> 02:09:41,600
Speaker 2: don't like that. I don't like that message I had said.

2631
02:09:41,600 --> 02:09:43,920
Speaker 2: It's certain things he just don't feed into. That's not

2632
02:09:44,000 --> 02:09:46,680
Speaker 2: his frequency that I'm not even I'm just like all right,

2633
02:09:46,720 --> 02:09:48,400
Speaker 2: once I hear that, I'm not even listening to that

2634
02:09:48,440 --> 02:09:50,880
Speaker 2: no more. You know. That's but that's me and I'll

2635
02:09:50,920 --> 02:09:53,360
Speaker 2: stand on that. But as far as me saying something

2636
02:09:53,400 --> 02:09:56,680
Speaker 2: nice about I'm Kendrick is amazing. He's an amazing artist,

2637
02:09:56,920 --> 02:10:00,400
Speaker 2: amazing phenomenal rapper, and I'm looking forward to hend what

2638
02:10:00,440 --> 02:10:02,400
Speaker 2: else he got he got for us. Like, I don't

2639
02:10:02,400 --> 02:10:04,800
Speaker 2: have nothing negative to say about Kendrick other than that

2640
02:10:04,920 --> 02:10:06,920
Speaker 2: not like us record. To me, I hate it. I

2641
02:10:06,960 --> 02:10:09,880
Speaker 2: don't like it, and I think that Drake had the

2642
02:10:09,920 --> 02:10:13,240
Speaker 2: better bars in the battle. I'll stand and I'll down that, Okay.

2643
02:10:13,360 --> 02:10:16,040
Speaker 4: I appreciate the final thoughts, and I agree with a

2644
02:10:16,040 --> 02:10:18,640
Speaker 4: lot of what you said, Maul. Can you say something

2645
02:10:18,720 --> 02:10:21,839
Speaker 4: nice about Kendrick Lamar he says.

2646
02:10:22,240 --> 02:10:26,280
Speaker 2: Is a phenomenal rat. He's a phenomenal MC. He makes

2647
02:10:26,320 --> 02:10:27,320
Speaker 2: good music like.

2648
02:10:27,480 --> 02:10:33,160
Speaker 3: MA thank you, thank you for your cande, like DJ had.

2649
02:10:33,280 --> 02:10:35,600
Speaker 3: Can you say something nice about Drake?

2650
02:10:36,880 --> 02:10:39,720
Speaker 2: You still wanted them ones King? Let this ship go,

2651
02:10:40,080 --> 02:10:47,040
Speaker 2: get back to the rap. I say you still want

2652
02:10:47,160 --> 02:10:51,560
Speaker 2: out saying something negative? You still wanted them ones? Bro?

2653
02:10:52,440 --> 02:10:52,760
Speaker 2: Do you?

2654
02:10:54,920 --> 02:10:57,280
Speaker 4: I don't think the therapist would accept it's what you mean?

2655
02:10:58,120 --> 02:11:01,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, what y'all gave me.

2656
02:11:03,840 --> 02:11:05,440
Speaker 3: I didn't give you any pushback. I think you did

2657
02:11:05,440 --> 02:11:06,240
Speaker 3: an amazing job.

2658
02:11:06,480 --> 02:11:09,320
Speaker 2: Do you is not a compliment? Do you? He's been

2659
02:11:09,440 --> 02:11:13,600
Speaker 2: doing him? Give me? Do you? That is? He used

2660
02:11:13,640 --> 02:11:15,640
Speaker 2: to be telling kids that do him and stop performing,

2661
02:11:15,720 --> 02:11:18,320
Speaker 2: not like us? Do that? I like the record? You

2662
02:11:18,360 --> 02:11:20,560
Speaker 2: don't like that fucking wreck. I don't like the record.

2663
02:11:20,560 --> 02:11:22,560
Speaker 2: I know you don't. I've been to your parties. I

2664
02:11:22,600 --> 02:11:25,240
Speaker 2: notice that you will party you come to. I've been hell.

2665
02:11:25,240 --> 02:11:27,640
Speaker 2: You don't think I've ever been to parties that you DJed.

2666
02:11:27,640 --> 02:11:30,520
Speaker 2: Are you? Are you all party had? I've been going

2667
02:11:30,520 --> 02:11:33,760
Speaker 2: to your parties since probably twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen.

2668
02:11:33,800 --> 02:11:36,080
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? I don't DJ that many parties.

2669
02:11:37,000 --> 02:11:38,920
Speaker 2: You've DJ A private party I was at in the

2670
02:11:39,000 --> 02:11:40,640
Speaker 2: Hills at a house. What the fuck are you talking

2671
02:11:40,640 --> 02:11:42,720
Speaker 2: about right now? Did I play the record? No? This

2672
02:11:42,760 --> 02:11:43,200
Speaker 2: is years ago.

2673
02:11:43,280 --> 02:11:44,880
Speaker 4: This was before the recud. I've been with mall ad

2674
02:11:44,920 --> 02:11:48,440
Speaker 4: parties that you TJ. Really, what the fuck is you're

2675
02:11:48,480 --> 02:11:48,960
Speaker 4: talking about?

2676
02:11:49,600 --> 02:11:54,080
Speaker 2: Listen, I'm being I don't have a good memory. I don't. Hey,

2677
02:11:54,080 --> 02:11:55,760
Speaker 2: you don't got to member, but you remember every fucking

2678
02:11:55,880 --> 02:11:58,480
Speaker 2: name DJ head? Yeah, like what the yeah? There is trauma.

2679
02:12:00,520 --> 02:12:02,160
Speaker 2: Let me do my nice thing again, go back to

2680
02:12:02,240 --> 02:12:02,960
Speaker 2: three or whatever.

2681
02:12:05,520 --> 02:12:07,920
Speaker 3: Do you guys have any final thoughts for each other?

2682
02:12:08,840 --> 02:12:12,800
Speaker 2: Final thoughts for each other? Yes, I mean shout out

2683
02:12:12,800 --> 02:12:14,879
Speaker 2: the head, Shout out to everything that you're doing. Uh,

2684
02:12:15,440 --> 02:12:17,680
Speaker 2: somebody that I you know, I've supported and I've had

2685
02:12:17,720 --> 02:12:20,880
Speaker 2: you know, I like everything about you. Anytime we've ever

2686
02:12:20,960 --> 02:12:22,920
Speaker 2: met and seen each other in l A, it's always

2687
02:12:22,960 --> 02:12:25,720
Speaker 2: been nothing but love and respect, love the space that

2688
02:12:25,760 --> 02:12:27,400
Speaker 2: you in now. Shout out to you shout out to

2689
02:12:28,000 --> 02:12:31,480
Speaker 2: West Coast Eli, West Coach Wilson, West Coast Wilson. Jeremy

2690
02:12:31,480 --> 02:12:33,880
Speaker 2: asked him some whole I should to say, funk Jeremy. Now,

2691
02:12:33,920 --> 02:12:34,480
Speaker 2: I'm just joking.

2692
02:12:34,520 --> 02:12:39,480
Speaker 4: I don't know, shouting Jeremy a few questions. Shout to

2693
02:12:39,520 --> 02:12:45,480
Speaker 4: Jeremy shouts interviews would on the show for the Black Women.

2694
02:12:45,640 --> 02:12:47,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love I love everything that you got going on,

2695
02:12:49,080 --> 02:12:50,760
Speaker 2: you know, and and I love the fact that you

2696
02:12:50,760 --> 02:12:52,680
Speaker 2: always keep it. You keep it, you keep it, Cali,

2697
02:12:53,000 --> 02:12:54,520
Speaker 2: And I respect that, you know. I mean, like you

2698
02:12:54,640 --> 02:12:56,920
Speaker 2: stand on where you're from, you wrap your city, you

2699
02:12:56,960 --> 02:12:59,560
Speaker 2: wrap it proud. I got all my uptowns because you

2700
02:12:59,640 --> 02:13:00,480
Speaker 2: out here in New York.

2701
02:13:01,120 --> 02:13:05,560
Speaker 4: I didn't notice that you were wearing Lakers, And I said, talent, Well,

2702
02:13:05,640 --> 02:13:06,480
Speaker 4: this is because.

2703
02:13:06,240 --> 02:13:08,520
Speaker 2: We you know, we we lost, We got bumped the

2704
02:13:08,520 --> 02:13:11,680
Speaker 2: first round. So this is kind of like just my yeah,

2705
02:13:11,800 --> 02:13:13,880
Speaker 2: like you know, it's it was better days at one point.

2706
02:13:14,040 --> 02:13:15,480
Speaker 2: Right now we're in a little bit of a you know,

2707
02:13:15,960 --> 02:13:17,880
Speaker 2: a funk. But shout out the head, shout out to

2708
02:13:17,920 --> 02:13:21,360
Speaker 2: everything you're doing. And yo, man, this last year has

2709
02:13:21,400 --> 02:13:23,880
Speaker 2: been it's been fun to you know, watch the West

2710
02:13:23,880 --> 02:13:26,560
Speaker 2: Coast celebrate and and and all the artists you know,

2711
02:13:26,640 --> 02:13:28,920
Speaker 2: pop out and perform like It's been fun to see

2712
02:13:28,920 --> 02:13:31,400
Speaker 2: a lot of guys get some get some time to

2713
02:13:31,440 --> 02:13:34,000
Speaker 2: shine and get some you know, light put on them

2714
02:13:34,000 --> 02:13:35,840
Speaker 2: because it is a lot of dope talent out of

2715
02:13:35,880 --> 02:13:38,600
Speaker 2: California that I think a lot of people, uh kind

2716
02:13:38,600 --> 02:13:40,800
Speaker 2: of you know, don't get to get a chance to

2717
02:13:40,840 --> 02:13:44,040
Speaker 2: really tap into. And I and I respect Kendrick for

2718
02:13:45,640 --> 02:13:47,840
Speaker 2: taking that moment and sharing that moment, you know what

2719
02:13:47,840 --> 02:13:50,200
Speaker 2: I'm saying, sharing that stage and sharing that platform with

2720
02:13:50,360 --> 02:13:53,080
Speaker 2: other artists. Don't like the message that it you know

2721
02:13:53,280 --> 02:13:56,120
Speaker 2: sent that my boy, but either way, love the fact

2722
02:13:56,160 --> 02:13:57,960
Speaker 2: that the city came together, Loved the fact that the

2723
02:13:58,080 --> 02:14:00,920
Speaker 2: you know, the culture came together for night on stage

2724
02:14:01,000 --> 02:14:03,640
Speaker 2: and you know it was it was dope. I think

2725
02:14:03,680 --> 02:14:06,120
Speaker 2: anybody from anywhere has to salute that and respect that.

2726
02:14:07,280 --> 02:14:08,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, man, I'm you know, shoutut to you and

2727
02:14:09,120 --> 02:14:11,240
Speaker 2: keep doing what you're doing. Man, Thank you. I appreciate

2728
02:14:11,280 --> 02:14:12,000
Speaker 2: you all for having me.

2729
02:14:12,200 --> 02:14:13,520
Speaker 4: Had any final thoughts from.

2730
02:14:14,280 --> 02:14:17,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for having me on your platform, Uh

2731
02:14:17,360 --> 02:14:21,320
Speaker 2: for inviting the conversation. Shout out to uh what y'all

2732
02:14:21,360 --> 02:14:26,840
Speaker 2: have built post battle and uh that was I know

2733
02:14:27,720 --> 02:14:31,200
Speaker 2: that was what that was what I wasn't.

2734
02:14:31,640 --> 02:14:35,400
Speaker 4: I was hip hop temperature maybe different over here. It

2735
02:14:35,440 --> 02:14:40,000
Speaker 4: felt like a shot because I was built pretty bad.

2736
02:14:40,280 --> 02:14:43,520
Speaker 4: I act like, I mean, you ain't You ain't built

2737
02:14:43,520 --> 02:14:45,360
Speaker 4: to you ain't built off the battle too like.

2738
02:14:45,360 --> 02:14:54,760
Speaker 2: No, no, I was talking about talking about that I got.

2739
02:14:55,000 --> 02:14:56,960
Speaker 2: I got exactly what he was saying. I got exactly

2740
02:14:56,960 --> 02:14:59,800
Speaker 2: what he was. I respect, I respected. I respect it

2741
02:14:59,880 --> 02:15:04,200
Speaker 2: for showy and also I think like being able to

2742
02:15:04,200 --> 02:15:06,800
Speaker 2: being able to navigate this space and staying on opinions

2743
02:15:07,320 --> 02:15:12,200
Speaker 2: no matter how they that I know you can say

2744
02:15:12,680 --> 02:15:16,640
Speaker 2: how you know while they are. And also I'm going

2745
02:15:16,720 --> 02:15:20,440
Speaker 2: to share something with you. Yeah you being a New York,

2746
02:15:20,760 --> 02:15:23,760
Speaker 2: New York native, Yeah, I respect you being a Lakers fan.

2747
02:15:25,560 --> 02:15:28,120
Speaker 4: Just that's something I don't respect about moment. Our entire

2748
02:15:28,160 --> 02:15:30,000
Speaker 4: production team was like, let's not do this.

2749
02:15:30,160 --> 02:15:32,920
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter about you told us that, you told me,

2750
02:15:33,000 --> 02:15:37,680
Speaker 2: you asked me for my words. Let head have his words.

2751
02:15:37,720 --> 02:15:37,920
Speaker 4: Man.

2752
02:15:39,040 --> 02:15:41,920
Speaker 2: I respect you being the Lakers. Yeah, man, absolutely, And

2753
02:15:42,440 --> 02:15:47,400
Speaker 2: you know when you when the time is right, I'm

2754
02:15:47,400 --> 02:15:50,160
Speaker 2: pretty sure you'll probably you know, make the move as well.

2755
02:15:50,360 --> 02:15:50,760
Speaker 4: To l A.

2756
02:15:50,920 --> 02:15:53,640
Speaker 2: So Nah, I can't live in l A man. So

2757
02:15:53,640 --> 02:15:56,560
Speaker 2: so I'm just saying taxes, well, trying to get away

2758
02:15:56,600 --> 02:16:00,440
Speaker 2: from them. I wouldn't say that on camera. Oh no, No,

2759
02:16:00,840 --> 02:16:09,560
Speaker 2: A move to a state that no tax evasion is

2760
02:16:09,560 --> 02:16:15,280
Speaker 2: a fel not evasion. I just live somewhere where there's

2761
02:16:15,280 --> 02:16:17,760
Speaker 2: no taxes. That's all got you days.

2762
02:16:18,280 --> 02:16:19,080
Speaker 4: You're going by the book.

2763
02:16:19,080 --> 02:16:23,320
Speaker 2: I have nothing else dof that's crazy, trying to get

2764
02:16:23,320 --> 02:16:26,000
Speaker 2: away from these tax Yes, I love a you know,

2765
02:16:26,000 --> 02:16:27,520
Speaker 2: that's you know, that's like one of my one of

2766
02:16:27,520 --> 02:16:29,320
Speaker 2: my homes. My love l A shout l A. But

2767
02:16:29,640 --> 02:16:30,160
Speaker 2: I can't live.

2768
02:16:30,320 --> 02:16:30,480
Speaker 1: Oh.

2769
02:16:30,560 --> 02:16:33,360
Speaker 2: Also, I'll give y'all compliment to We've actually I've actually

2770
02:16:33,400 --> 02:16:36,920
Speaker 2: had this conversation internally with a couple of people. Y'all's

2771
02:16:37,000 --> 02:16:39,400
Speaker 2: live show is really good.

2772
02:16:39,440 --> 02:16:41,240
Speaker 4: It's the greatest live period.

2773
02:16:41,320 --> 02:16:43,480
Speaker 2: Y'all live show is really good because a lot of

2774
02:16:43,480 --> 02:16:47,400
Speaker 2: people don't have as much crowd interaction and engagement as

2775
02:16:47,400 --> 02:16:50,160
Speaker 2: you guys do, and that being the cornerstone of your

2776
02:16:50,280 --> 02:16:53,240
Speaker 2: live show. People don't understand that people are so vain.

2777
02:16:53,320 --> 02:16:54,600
Speaker 2: They think they just want to sit there and watch

2778
02:16:54,600 --> 02:16:56,360
Speaker 2: you talk hell to I want to do that and

2779
02:16:57,120 --> 02:16:59,480
Speaker 2: y'all live show and the way that y'all curated that

2780
02:16:59,760 --> 02:17:02,040
Speaker 2: is is stellar. Yeah, I mean we you know, we're

2781
02:17:02,080 --> 02:17:04,640
Speaker 2: gonna give the people the opportunity that talk shit to

2782
02:17:04,720 --> 02:17:06,640
Speaker 2: us and say we ain't ship and this that, and

2783
02:17:06,680 --> 02:17:08,680
Speaker 2: they're all right, so you say something, let's see who

2784
02:17:08,680 --> 02:17:10,959
Speaker 2: you are? Like, that's what the whole the whole premise

2785
02:17:10,959 --> 02:17:12,600
Speaker 2: of the live respect. I remember, I remember when I

2786
02:17:12,640 --> 02:17:14,200
Speaker 2: went to go see y'all live show in LA. I

2787
02:17:14,240 --> 02:17:16,920
Speaker 2: was like, damn, this is good because y'all, like most

2788
02:17:16,959 --> 02:17:20,240
Speaker 2: people don't understand live versus pod, right, So.

2789
02:17:20,680 --> 02:17:22,360
Speaker 4: And what sucks with the live shows though, is that

2790
02:17:22,520 --> 02:17:23,959
Speaker 4: when we go to LA, we have to pay New

2791
02:17:24,040 --> 02:17:26,160
Speaker 4: York tax on what we make on the live show.

2792
02:17:26,160 --> 02:17:28,039
Speaker 4: Then we have to pay California tax on what we

2793
02:17:28,240 --> 02:17:30,160
Speaker 4: do with the live show. So as much as the

2794
02:17:30,200 --> 02:17:33,600
Speaker 4: live shows, grace Man fucked him last year entertainment tax.

2795
02:17:33,640 --> 02:17:35,160
Speaker 2: I mean, what the fuck that was? I don't know

2796
02:17:35,200 --> 02:17:35,720
Speaker 2: who that is.

2797
02:17:36,040 --> 02:17:38,480
Speaker 4: I don't I don't even I don't even knowtainment who

2798
02:17:38,560 --> 02:17:38,800
Speaker 4: is that?

2799
02:17:38,879 --> 02:17:42,280
Speaker 2: I don't have nothing to do with that a Eric

2800
02:17:42,320 --> 02:17:45,440
Speaker 2: Garcetti and then started caring parent baths. Gavin Newsom, Yeah,

2801
02:17:45,440 --> 02:17:45,879
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

2802
02:17:45,920 --> 02:17:49,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, last nerdy nerdy question, real real quick.

2803
02:17:49,280 --> 02:17:51,520
Speaker 4: Even if they cut it, do you still stand by

2804
02:17:51,600 --> 02:17:54,160
Speaker 4: your tweet that he said day like, he's not Day.

2805
02:17:54,280 --> 02:17:54,800
Speaker 2: No, I'm a nerve.

2806
02:17:54,800 --> 02:17:57,480
Speaker 4: That's why I ask some question, he ain't Day. Do

2807
02:17:57,560 --> 02:18:01,040
Speaker 4: you think that every hit record needs to be at

2808
02:18:01,080 --> 02:18:03,840
Speaker 4: one on one b pm posts not like us? No,

2809
02:18:04,000 --> 02:18:06,760
Speaker 4: that was the only egregious, delusional tweet I think I've

2810
02:18:06,760 --> 02:18:07,400
Speaker 4: ever seen from you.

2811
02:18:08,080 --> 02:18:08,720
Speaker 2: What did I say?

2812
02:18:08,879 --> 02:18:11,400
Speaker 4: You said, everyone gear up. If you want to make

2813
02:18:11,400 --> 02:18:12,920
Speaker 4: a hit record, it has to be at one on

2814
02:18:12,920 --> 02:18:13,440
Speaker 4: one b pm.

2815
02:18:13,480 --> 02:18:15,680
Speaker 2: And that's not what I said. Someone pull it up,

2816
02:18:15,720 --> 02:18:18,280
Speaker 2: pull up the tweet. I'm very I'm very a one

2817
02:18:18,280 --> 02:18:21,120
Speaker 2: on one bpms as a DJ. Have you any any

2818
02:18:21,120 --> 02:18:25,160
Speaker 2: event that you've DJ recently? Have you played No Kid? Yeah?

2819
02:18:25,520 --> 02:18:26,640
Speaker 2: I played it when I went to London.

2820
02:18:26,920 --> 02:18:29,320
Speaker 4: Great, I mean in London, that's gonna go crazy.

2821
02:18:29,800 --> 02:18:32,560
Speaker 2: Girls love that song. Yeah, and a great conversation. Is

2822
02:18:32,600 --> 02:18:35,120
Speaker 2: good to see you and let the West Coast know

2823
02:18:35,200 --> 02:18:37,240
Speaker 2: is still all love over here? You know what I'm saying.

2824
02:18:38,120 --> 02:18:40,120
Speaker 2: And you let them know, and I don't think they know.

2825
02:18:40,240 --> 02:18:42,520
Speaker 2: It's it's always love. It's always love. I love l A.

2826
02:18:42,600 --> 02:18:44,879
Speaker 2: You gotta come come let them know, absolutely, I gotta

2827
02:18:44,920 --> 02:18:46,320
Speaker 2: I gotta come to y'all, show man. I gotta come

2828
02:18:46,440 --> 02:18:49,240
Speaker 2: kick it with y'all. Come pull up some ship with y'all. Yeah,

2829
02:18:49,280 --> 02:18:51,280
Speaker 2: thank y'all for having me. It's New Rory and Ma.

2830
02:18:51,720 --> 02:18:53,560
Speaker 2: I'm that nigga. He's just ginger Peace