1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Giants Huddle. Get Him in a Huddle, 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Get Him in a Huddle, Get Him in a Huddle, 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: a New York Giants podcast. Welcome to another edition of 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: the Giant Huddle Podcast. My name is John Schmilk. The 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: Giants two thousand and nineteen NFL Draft is in the books, 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: and the Giants sixth overall pick in the draft was 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: duke quarterback Daniel Jones. Who better to talk about Daniel 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: than his head coach in college, duke head coach David Cutliffe, 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: who is also a coach for Eli Manning and Peyton 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: Manning when they were in college. But our focus today 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: will be on Daniel Jones. Coach John Schmilk here and 12 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: the Giants practice facility in East Weatherford, New Jersey. Thank 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: you so much for the time. How are you today? 14 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: I am good, John, and up things are great up there. 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm obviously a huge Giants fan because of Eli and 16 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: and just for many, mine goes all the way back 17 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 1: to by the Way, so I have followed the Giants 18 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: in my youth and was a fan of theirs even 19 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: growing up in Alabama, which doesn't make much sense, but 20 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: it was Giants and Yankees for me absolutely coaching and 21 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: thanks so much. Certainly I can tell you I've been 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: here since two thousand and seven. I've enjoyed every minute 23 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: of you, like man his career here and it has 24 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: been a pleasure watching him play. Just a great young man. 25 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: And that's kind of where I want to start with 26 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. I want to dig deep with you in 27 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,919 Speaker 1: terms of his technical quarterback performance too. But let's start 28 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: off the field. Take us behind the scenes a little bit, 29 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: and what is it about Daniel Jones as a man 30 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: that people don't see on tape that allowed him to 31 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: go from walk on to three year starter or duke? Yeah, 32 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: he um. First of all, he's a great team mate. 33 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: Anybody that's ever been around athletics as a player or 34 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: coach or a combination understands that in the end of 35 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: your career, if if multiple people come up to you 36 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: and say, hey, man, you were the greatest team mate 37 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: I ever had, you cannot get a bigger compliment. And 38 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: there would be many that would say that about Eli 39 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: at Old Miss There. I think many, if not all 40 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: here at Duke would say the same thing about Daniel. 41 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: He's sincere, he's genuine, he's the hardest worker we have 42 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: period which people don't ever understand that equation. Uh So 43 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: you you take gifted gifted athletes and you see just 44 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: do you think they're great as a gift. It's it's 45 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: not just the gift. The other portion of it is 46 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: the ten thousand hours of hard work. And Daniel what 47 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: what I like about him? He does that on the 48 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: sports field. He's been unbelievable here and work ethic as 49 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: a player. Great in the weight room and I'm not 50 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: talking that good he is strong now, great in the 51 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: weight room. But he also you've given the task to 52 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: be a great student, He's going to do it. His 53 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: attention to detail, he does every little thing well and 54 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: when that becomes your habit. That's where great lives first 55 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: and foremost is in the attention to detail. And we're 56 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: all a product. We don't choose our our futures. Our 57 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: habits choose our futures. And I tell young people that 58 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: all the time. Daniel Jones has got his good of 59 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: personal habits us as anyone. I know. One other thing 60 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 1: that both Pat Summer and Dave Gettleman talked about which 61 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: they really liked about Daniel was his toughness and I 62 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: think they meant both mental and physical. Can you tell 63 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: me a little bit about maybe some opportunities you had 64 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: with Daniel on and off the field where you saw 65 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: his mental and physical toughness manifest itself. I'm gonna start 66 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: with the physical toughness. Um, we'll get in a minute 67 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: to overcoming injury. But I've seen Daniel hit and you 68 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: don't want to see you guy hit. And I've never 69 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: seen him flinch. I've never seen him flinch in the pocket. 70 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: I've never seen him fail to get back up off 71 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: the ground and be the first one up off the ground. 72 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: So his physical toughness is unique. When he runs the football, 73 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: I had to get onto him, uh White often because 74 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: he'll take tacklers on and he's finally gotten out of 75 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: that habit and you certainly don't you want to be 76 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: in that habit in the league. He's headed to and 77 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: he knows that. But the other part, I don't know 78 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: if anybody I've ever known. He broke a collar bone 79 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: this year, significantly September eight. He started and played a 80 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: complete game for US on September twenty nine. Uh the 81 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: year before when his play suffered And this isn't all 82 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: that widely known it. I don't want to sound like 83 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: I'm just offending him. I'm not. But he played a 84 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: big portion of the year with not not not what 85 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: you'd call a crack, a broken rib, and if you 86 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: want to talk about pain, everybody's ever had a real 87 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: ripagry I have. I don't know how he did it, 88 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: and I really didn't want to. The doctor said he 89 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,119 Speaker 1: was fine to do it if he could stand the pain. 90 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: His parents were okay with it. He was determined to 91 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: do it. He's a unique young man in that regard. 92 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: So the physical toughness, the mental toughness. I've never just 93 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: seen him waver It's that thing that that Eli has 94 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: is that you're not gonna get too high with all 95 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: of the accolades at all, or even at all. But 96 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: he's not you. You're not gonna get him down. He's 97 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: just gonna go to work. Um And I think that's 98 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: what the great ones do. They don't focus on what 99 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:58,119 Speaker 1: people think about their work. Can you imagine a great 100 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: hitter for the Yankees through the year years um worried 101 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: about what hey, Rod, do you think worried about what 102 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: people thought about his work? He was focused on his 103 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: work and I think that's a trick that all the 104 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: great ones that I've had, not just a quarterback, but 105 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: all the positions, and we've had a lot of great 106 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: football players through the years. They have a unique ability 107 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,119 Speaker 1: to focus on their job, their work and it doesn't 108 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: matter what other people think. And that'll that'll serve anybody 109 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: well in the National Football League, but certainly in a 110 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: market that's just passionate with the best fans in the 111 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: world in New York. Correct on that one coach. I 112 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: know you were involved and sat in on a lot 113 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: of the meetings he had with NFL teams. You have 114 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: a lot of good relationships around the NFL. What was 115 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: some of the feedback you were getting, not just some 116 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: of the giants, but from other teams around the league 117 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: about Daniel, why they liked them, and just what NFL 118 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: teams saw in him when they evaluated him. Yeah, the 119 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: big the film sessions, if they happened first, just blew 120 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: them away. Um, they had no idea that he can 121 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: talk protections and coverage and fronts and I mean best 122 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: run plays and you know, really we could have just 123 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: turned calling offense at the line of scrimmage over to Daniel. 124 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: It was pretty amazing. Um, and they were blown away. 125 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: I mean they're like, what coaches it? It mean does 126 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: he really understand all? I said? Not only does he 127 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: understand it, it's functional and he can do it in 128 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: a hurry. That's what I mean by functional, it's not 129 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: just film smart. And then, um, the other thing is 130 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: when they walked out on the field with him, all 131 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: this stuff about armed strength, and everybody I talked said, good, gosh, man, 132 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: he's powerful. He's bigger than I thought. You know, when 133 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: you're right society. His hand speeds phenomenal. He's throwing out routes, 134 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: he's throwing post he's throwing takeoffs. I mean, he's in 135 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: the best is yet to come now, I'm telling you. 136 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: So I think people I don't think they were shocked, 137 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: but they I mean I saw eyebrows go out. You know, 138 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: we would have sometimes six to eight people in here 139 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: doing an evaluation. They'd start looking at each other and 140 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: you would see I mean, I've been around long time. 141 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: I knew what they were thinking, like, oh my gosh. 142 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: And so he would have gone And I've heard that 143 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: attributed to today gentleman. And you know, I don't know 144 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: what he knows, but I know what I know, and 145 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: he wouldn't have been there at seventeen, there's no doubt 146 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: in my mind. And Jim Naggie, who's the guy who 147 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: runs the Senior Bowl, told us the same thing on 148 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: our other Big Book Kickoff live show as well. So, uh, 149 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: you're you're not the first thing, won't be the last 150 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: that has has made that point. Coach, All right, let's 151 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: let's get to the technical quarterback play and let's start 152 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: where it all begins, and that's pre snap. How much 153 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: responsibility did he have pre snap in terms of protections, 154 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,599 Speaker 1: in terms of how much leeway did you give in 155 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: terms of changing plays? And how do you think that 156 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: would translate to what he's gonna be asked to do 157 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: in the pros? Well, that's just that's that's what we do. 158 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: It's how we train quarterbacks. They manage protections solely, so 159 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: five man protection, six man protections, check to max protections, UM, 160 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: breaking off routes UM. Sometimes people don't realize you audibilize 161 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: with hand signals and so you actually change route concepts 162 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: and you know when you see certain coverages, doesn't have 163 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: to make a big check of protection change, but every 164 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: bit of that he's functional with and pre snap reads 165 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: are the biggest part. It's when you watch high school 166 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: guys and you see him. You know, a route concept 167 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: may take three point two seconds. We're not gonna have 168 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: at so we gotta be able to get great pre 169 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: snap reeds, get everything right, we're gonna get the ball 170 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: out in two point seven. Um. And uh, you know 171 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: the same thing is true dependent upon who you're playing. Also, 172 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: you know when we're playing uh quote in Alabama or 173 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: Clemson or Notre Dame. In in you know Daniel went 174 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: into Notre Dame, people forget that and beat him. Um, 175 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: played great, But against those types of fronts, you gotta 176 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: be so good. We don't do anything over two point five. Um, 177 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna keep their uniform clean, which means you've gotta 178 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: be great pre snap and you've gotta be a great 179 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: decision maker. And then you've got to use your eyes 180 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: to move a defender to make sure that you're right. 181 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: So these are things he's been taught since he was 182 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: a freshman coach. I like to talk to Kevin Gilbride 183 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: about quarterback play and he says some things that are 184 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: just really fascinating. One thing he's kind of always stressed 185 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: with me is that he thinks almost maybe the most 186 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: important thing a quarterback has to do in the most 187 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: difficult thing is once he gets his ball in his hands, 188 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: can he slow everything down and just see the field, 189 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 1: his receivers, his defenders anticipate properly and make a good decision. So, 190 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: once Daniel has the ball in his hands and he 191 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: has all the film study during the week, all the 192 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: pre snap stuff, how does he then translate that into 193 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: a split second decision to get the ball where it 194 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: needs to go. Well, what what you're describing is when 195 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: you see a quarterback that will stay in the pocket 196 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: and has that ability to buy attempt of a second 197 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: by staying in and moving, that's the guy that is 198 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: doing what Kevin is describing. He's actually absolutely right. He 199 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: knows what's getting ready to happen. Um, Peyton uses it 200 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: some I made it up and with them we called 201 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: it anticipatory throws. And there's not a word but using 202 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: anticipation and just made it easier to teach when we 203 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: talked about being anticipatory. So, Um, those guys amazed me. 204 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: So they will hold it and moon knowing that a 205 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: completion exists. Food just like that. So that all happens 206 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: from a combination of knowing in your mind pre snap 207 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:35,359 Speaker 1: what to expect, and then that requires hours of pristine 208 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: practice that everybody on that fields doing what you expect 209 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: him to do as a quarterback. So he's right, but 210 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: it also it's not just the quarterback that has that, 211 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: And nobody trains those that receiving core like a quarterback does. 212 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: So when Peyton and Eli through the years have come back, 213 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: they've always brought their receivers and what I have focused 214 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: on with them is making sure that we're all on 215 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: the same page. And it's amazing how that doesn't work. 216 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying that through the years, but 217 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: when you see it's a thing of beauty, um And 218 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: and that's when it all happens. As soon as that 219 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: ball is taking on the center of the drop. Being 220 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: busy during your drop for one. And then when you 221 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: catch a ball and the gun you gotta have great hands, 222 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: you but I'll be staring at the ball. You have 223 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: to use the time that literally that ball is in 224 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 1: the air to be a middle infield. Shortstops don't look 225 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: at the ball from the second basement. You take the 226 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: ball and you're busy with your eyes. Now you're getting 227 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 1: in my you you're getting in my lane right now 228 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: talking about what you're talking. I'm I'm coaching now. But 229 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: that's how I evaluate high school kids. I won't take 230 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: a guy can't be a middle infielter or a basketball 231 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: a shooter, and Daniel has got all of that time. 232 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: How often do you ask them to make full field 233 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: reads and go from the left side of the field 234 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 1: to the right and really see that whole both sides 235 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 1: of the defense and make decisions off of what he 236 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: sees the entire of the field. Yeah, you don't ever 237 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: really want to take your eyes from from light to left. 238 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: What you do is you read through the goal post, 239 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: where you know what's occurring on the right or the left. 240 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: So we have complete cross field reads, but it's all dictated. 241 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: As I said, if you're if you're dropping, you read 242 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: through the goal post. You're gonna know what if you 243 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: watch the tape and you've pageant enough games, you're gonna 244 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: know what people are doing outside, so that will dictate 245 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: whether you go left or right. Rarely do I want 246 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: a guy to go from the right side of the 247 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: field and the left side of the field because that's 248 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: where sacks live, and about of the sacks, and that 249 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: league results in fumbles. So um yeah, we're gonna avoid 250 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: sacks at all costs. And obviously none of the stuff 251 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: matters if the quarterback can't deliver the ball accurately, and 252 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: there's nothing more important for a quarterback than being accurate. 253 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: How would you characterize Daniel's accuracy downfield, which of course 254 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: comes down to his feet in his mechanics, I mean outstanding. 255 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: He can put it in a window. He's got great hands. 256 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: As I said, people don't realize you don't throw a 257 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: ball with your arm or your hand. You throw a 258 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: football with your fingers. No different than you know. Um, 259 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: I was a pitcher in baseball in as well, and 260 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: the differences you throw a baseball, velosity comes from a 261 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: lot of it comes from your fingers, rotation, all of that. 262 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: He's got great hands and ball comes actors fingers really well. 263 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: His freshman ritchert freshman year, he's going against our defense. 264 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: I was totally blown away by his accuracy. We changed 265 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: some things in his motion as he got a little 266 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: you know later into that ball, but good gosh, he 267 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: drove our defense crazy with phenomenally accurate throws downfield, midfield, Uh, sideline, 268 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: the sideline. It was fun to watch. We knew we 269 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,479 Speaker 1: had one. Then, what do you think the biggest transition 270 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: he's going to have to make heading to the pro game? 271 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: And where do you think to make that transition? Should 272 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: he try to really continue to make continual improvement? Yeah? 273 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: I think that that that everybody that plays the game. 274 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: Continual improvement is the only chance you have. Nothing stays 275 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: the same. You either get better you get worse. If 276 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: you start thinking about anything other than trying to be 277 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: a great player. Every year you got making a big mistake. 278 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: So age and conditioning makes you better. Um, you got 279 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: to realize the twenty nine year old athletes are much 280 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: better and stronger athlete than a twenty one year old is. 281 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: But the biggest challenges you run in to first go 282 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: I'll learn a whole new system and the whole new language. 283 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: And that's tougher than people think, because you're thinking one 284 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: thing in your head, you're saying another. Just the rhythm 285 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: and timing. If you're not the starter, how to get 286 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: enough reps to be on the same page with that 287 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: receiving corps. And then there's no question that open, and 288 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: the NFL is not open Collegiately, you understand what I'm saying, 289 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna have not necessarily bigger windows, but a little 290 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: different approach and decision making. So they're paying those guys 291 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: that rush you a whole lot of money to not 292 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 1: let you get that ball off. So it's it's a 293 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: beautiful challenge and a great one, but it's just part 294 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: of the process. And I think the first time you 295 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: get an NFL hit in the pocket, you probably realize 296 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: you're not in college anymore. Coach, I know he's a 297 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: very competitive young man, maybe quiet, but extremely competitive. And 298 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: I've see I've been trying to go through all all 299 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: his plays on on coaches Table over the last couple 300 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: of weeks, and I see the competitives come through when 301 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: he stands in the pocket, makes a pinpoint pass, takes 302 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: a big hit and makes a perfect throw. Other times, 303 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,479 Speaker 1: maybe he tries to make a play when it's not 304 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: there because he's so competitive. Is that's something that Daniel 305 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: and I see it with Eli up here too, by 306 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: the way, where he has to fight maybe understanding when 307 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: it's okay not to try to make a big play 308 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: in a certain situation, no question, and especially for us 309 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: in his career, when when you know things we were 310 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: out man, and you think you, you know, can out 311 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: compete someone, and no one when to say when at quarterback, 312 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: it's always tough because you've gotta be fierce enough and 313 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: you've gotta be competitive enough. And they hate throwing the 314 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 1: ball away. But you know, sometimes the process it's different 315 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: than the completion, and so you kind of how to 316 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: teach the difference and the profit and a completion. So 317 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: sometimes that profit is throwing the ball away quickly laying 318 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: it all. And I hate to say this because this 319 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: is rare. Sometimes you have to eat the ball and guile. 320 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: I hated that myself. Alright, coach two more questions with 321 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 1: me very quickly. For people that maybe don't know what 322 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: a great athlete Daniel Jones is, you saw him there 323 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: for three years. I saw him run for sixty plus 324 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 1: yards twice in the same game against North Carolina. Just 325 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: tell the folks a little bit about the type of 326 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: athlete Daniel is and how that shows itself on game day. Uh. 327 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: He is a powerful runner. Uh he's gotten really good quickness. 328 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: But I really believe he could have been a national 329 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: Class four D runner in a four sprint college. I mean, 330 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: he can open up and go. He's outstanding on a 331 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: basketball court. He any s board. I mean it just 332 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: comes natural to him. Um, he is strong, really really strong. 333 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: So from an athleticism standpoint, I mean, I think people 334 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: think of Kyler Murray, who's a phenomenal athlete, but they 335 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: don't think of a six five plus guy being that athletic. 336 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: But Daniel is. I mean, he is absolutely just a 337 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: terrific athlete. Shoot horse, play one on one. Whatever you 338 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: want to do, go play golf. I mean, Daniel can 339 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: can do any of it and do it well. Coach 340 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: final one, you know the type of offense Pat Scharmer 341 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: likes to run in the pros. You know what he 342 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: wants from his quarterbacks. How do you think Daniel Jones 343 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: fits into what Pat Schremer wants his quarterback to do well? 344 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: I think he'll be terrific. And I think Pat does 345 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: as good a job as anybody of coaching quarterbacks and 346 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: offense and just knowing that that you're gonna get the 347 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: ball out, it's gonna be on time, You're gonna be disciplined, 348 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna be structured. I think paths away and it's 349 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: won a lot of football games for him, and I 350 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: think it's a great fit and a great payer coach. 351 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: We appreciate the extra time. Thank you so much. Best 352 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 1: of luck to you this upcoming year, and we look 353 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: forward to seeing up here when Daniel plays his first 354 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: game at MetLife Stadium. All right, that's dukehead coach David 355 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: cut Cliff. A lot of interesting stuff from him, and 356 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: hopefully he gave you guys out there a much more 357 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: intimate look of Daniel Jones both on and off the field. 358 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: I am John Schmilk. Thank you for joining us for 359 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: another edition of the Giant Tunnle Podcast. 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