WEBVTT - Bruce Feldman's Spring Eye Tests 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:04.720 Welcome to the solid verbal. 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:08.079 I'll that for me. I'm a man, I'm for it. 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:10.119 I've heard so many players say, well, I want to 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:12.680 be happy. You want to be happy for Dake Edith 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:14.440 State is that whoo whoom? 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:16.880 And Dan and Tye. 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:23.680 Hey, everybody, it's your friend Dan. I am so, so, 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:26.880 so so so sorry. Ty is swamped this week, so 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:29.639 we still have a show. Obviously, you know what this 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:32.280 show is. But he's a busy man. Ty has so 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:35.760 much going on, swamped at the mysterious day job closing. 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:38.559 I think he closed on a new house, so he's 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:40.840 got stuff to do. He's too busy for me. He's 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:43.199 too busy for us. But we don't go away. We 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:45.120 don't take weeks off. That's just not what we do. 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:48.839 So I texted our dear friend Bruce Feldman, who has 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:52.320 been all over this spring checking in with Spring Camp 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:56.360 and looking over players and sort of giving out eye tests, 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:58.560 because that's what Bruce does. Bruce is one of the greats, 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:01.800 and so we have them on and we're going to 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:04.759 talk about all sorts of fun things and he's there 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:08.000 up close. So who better to trust than the immortal, 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:10.480 the esteemed Bruce Feldman. And as a quick reminder some 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:14.760 housekeeping solidverbal dot com. Send us notes at solid verbal 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:17.160 at gmail dot com. I swear to you we read 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:19.240 all of them. We get a lot of them. 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It's called 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:33.360 The QB. It's a great fast read. Let's talk football, 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:37.239 all right, and with that, welcome on Bruce Feldman. First 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:39.840 of all, no Tie. So if you have any questions, 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:41.640 if you want to get thoughts out, knowing that this 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:44.519 will probably not get edited, just now is the time? 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:49.720 Well that is good to know. You're kind of hitting 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.440 me on stuff where I so I can ask anything 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.320 about him, or anything about or anything. 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:57.240 Like you feel like Tie would edit out or Ty 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:00.360 would be uncomfortable talking about any and just wherever your 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:01.040 heart wants to go. 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:01.880 And we can come back to that. 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:06.040 Like Tie is very establishment guy, true, you know, so 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:08.920 he's kind of he's kind of clamping down on all 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:09.800 our creativities. 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:12.359 I would think we're going to explore the creative space 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:16.720 today with of course Bruce Feldman from Fox Sports One 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:20.679 on the sideline reporting Sports Illustrated. You're all over the 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:23.840 place SI dot com. You are the I would argue 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:29.320 the pre eminent college football trader, Joe's vegetable Fried Rice spokesperson, M. 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.600 Yeah, I'm not a it's actually my kids who like that. 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:38.600 I am so, but we are. It's legit. I'm in 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:40.200 there like once a week. Same. 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:41.840 I appreciate the honesty. 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:44.240 I mean, Trader Joe's sponsor, you're on the audible with 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:48.720 Stuart Mandel of the Athletics, So I think it's all happening. 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:49.640 That's what I'm saying. 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:52.080 I am a big Trader Joe's guy. We you know, 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:55.600 we have like the bedcome of the Mattress company. That's legit. 0:03:55.720 --> 0:04:00.680 I really like that. So it's all you know, it's 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:01.080 all good. 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:04.320 Yeah, people don't understand. So we really do use the 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:06.320 things that sponsors send us. 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:07.840 This is all very real. 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:13.960 Let me ask you this, would you most like to 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:16.960 and don't give me like some you know, Jaguar, some 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:20.440 fancy car dealership there, right, But let's say this, what 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:23.880 place that would be a reasonable fit for your podcast? 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:26.880 Would you most like to cultivate as tough. 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:31.160 As a sponsor? God, that's a good question. I mean, 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:33.599 Apple would be great. It wouldn't make a ton of 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:39.640 sense because they don't need us. There are a couple 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:42.839 of clothing companies that if I could restock my wardrobe. 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:45.800 I wear a lot of clothes. You know what Everlane. 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:47.880 Is is that a company that's big in plaid. 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:51.320 It is not big. It's all sorts of materials and patterns. 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:54.080 Everlaine. There's a store that's all over now called Unicloth. 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:57.360 They're in la I'd happily take a sponsorship from them, 0:04:57.360 --> 0:05:00.640 somewhere where I can like literally wear the sponsorship. I 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:03.400 think would be the most convenient for me. 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:09.479 What about you, okay, uh, torchies, tacos. 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:11.520 Oh, yeah, that'd be nice. 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:14.880 And I actually reached out to them a couple of times, 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:17.880 not stalking, but you know, I had had them tweet 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:20.680 at me once on something. So when a couple of 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:23.240 years ago, my first two years of doing Sideline, I 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:25.440 was in the Big ten A lot. Those are the games. 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:28.160 We ended up doing the Big twelve A lot, And 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:33.680 so every Friday I would take my Sideline producer to 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:37.440 a torchise now because they were in there. They're in Oklahoma, 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:41.000 you know, in Norman, all over Texas. So it was 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:44.359 very it was it just worked out great. And so 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:45.800 I'm like, man, I'm gonna be on the road in 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.279 the Big twelve A lot. This would be a good fit. 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:49.920 I'm a huge Torchies fan. 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:52.240 H what's your order? 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:57.840 My order is one chicken, one steak, Tahoe taco. I 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:01.120 am not very exotic on on some of the other stuff. 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:03.360 You gotta get more. They have a fried avocado taco. 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:08.520 That's not me avocado. 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:10.120 You gotta go for it. 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:13.279 Bruce, I'm a great Wow. 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:16.040 Okay, so you were in, you were in Oklahoma a lot, 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:17.400 and then suddenly you're in the Big Ten. 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:21.039 Big twelve now, and then there's all over the Big twelve. 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:23.039 So that's why it's fitting at last this past year, 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:26.799 my crew is in the Big ten A lot aren't 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:29.680 tor Cheese, So it wouldn't have kind of been as 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:33.080 natural a tie in. But because we did do a 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:36.400 couple of Oklahoma games and we're in, uh did the 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:38.280 Big twelve title game, so that would have been that 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:40.560 would have worked out. But for the most part, Uh, 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:42.920 it wasn't the case last year. But that was one 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:44.880 I pushed Stu on. I said we ought to get 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.880 on tor cheese, and I put the other one he 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:54.520 had suggested. Yeah. So and at one point, uh, you 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:59.000 know Kevin Burkhart, I do, he's the Yeah, great guy anyway, 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:00.680 So I think it's some point he and I both 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:04.240 became like on the same bandwagon of Lululemon for men. 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:09.120 You know, closed is good, come premium af leasionable, Yes, 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:12.120 and it's just great stuff for getting on a plane 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:15.679 and whatnot and just your day of travel. So ik, 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:17.320 at some point I might have reached out to them. 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:21.240 Wow, I appreciate this hustle. By the way, it's late April. 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:23.720 So to anybody listening to this and complaining inside their 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:25.600 head that we haven't gotten into college football yet, it's 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:27.600 late April and we're going to hear Bruce's thoughts on 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.080 ath leisure and soft tacos, that's just how it. 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:33.120 We're sorry, Sorry, this this is what happens when when 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:35.640 Tye has jury duty or whatever Tie's doing right now. 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:39.280 It's very true. Okay, let's transition to college football because 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:41.360 it is the spring. Because this is I don't know 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:44.480 how many years of you doing spring tours. You've sort 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:49.200 of been all over this spring, so overarching, because there's 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:52.080 not always a ton to take away from spring, particularly 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:56.320 spring scrimmages, games, whatever. Did you see anything that is 0:07:56.640 --> 0:08:00.520 that your positive is going to be meaningful even though 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:01.640 it was just spring. 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:07.600 As you look forward to the twenty eighteen season, yes. 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:12.000 I would be positive that UCLA desperately needs its incoming 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:17.840 true freshmen to learn the system really fast and be 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:20.480 mature and be focused because they need help. 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:21.160 Why. 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:25.200 They just don't have much personally, you know, so much 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:28.200 talent right now. You know, the best, the most talented 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:31.280 kid in the program, Jalen Phillips is an edge rusher. 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:33.240 He was out for the spring. And they have a 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:36.280 couple of defensive backs, but beyond and you know, defensively 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:39.840 they have a few pieces. Offensively, they don't have much 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.280 right now. And I think when you look at the 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:45.720 schedule they have and I said this on our podcast 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:47.319 the other day as I kind of went through it 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:51.600 just thinking in real time, I think it's a stretch 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:53.480 to think they are going to be favored in more 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:57.680 than two games this year. Wow. And those two games 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:00.200 will be the opener with Cincinnati, who have bad year, 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:02.560 and the other one would be a game against Fresno 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:05.160 who's coming off a double digit win season. And I'm 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:06.599 not you know, I'm not positive they're going to be 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:08.760 favored in that game because that's coming off of a 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:11.520 game at Oklahoma, where I think Oklahoma could could beat 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:12.880 them by four touchdowns. 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:15.800 Yeah, and you're talking about a Cincinnati team that I 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:18.240 think is one of the best three, maybe group of 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:22.000 five recruiters recently with Luke Fickle and Fresno, which has 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:26.240 a really good defense, like like a legitimately good defense 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:27.160 they do. 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:29.719 Now they're gonna have a new defensive coordinator, right, they're old, 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:32.679 DC went back to the CFL. But still you know, 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:35.400 they won double digit games, and you know that those 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:37.760 kids on that team are going to look at and go, 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:40.800 you sill a man, you guys never recruited me, And 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:42.360 there's going to be a lot of passion for that. 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:47.160 So and there's probably a you got Jeff Tedford who's 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:49.679 coached against Chip Kelly a lot, and I'm sure that 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:52.800 there's you know, there's going to be that one circle too. 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:57.120 So whenever you get one of those like like last year, 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:02.520 I know San Diego State relished whi ASU and beating Stanford, 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:05.719 you know, there's kind of their little brother vibe to it. 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:09.000 So so that was that was you know, a big 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.520 takeaway some of the other places. You know, I think 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:15.480 Washington is going to be really good. I think they're 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:19.920 loaded in the secondary with young talented guys, and I 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:23.120 think that I think they have a shot to go 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:25.160 to the playoff this year, a real shot not only 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:28.000 to go, but to do some damage when they get 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:28.600 there this year. 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:31.240 Okay, fair enough, What is the biggest difference? Not to 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:33.000 spend too much time on UCLA, but what is the 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:35.360 biggest difference in your eyes? Having spent time around him 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:38.520 before in Eugene and now a little bit in Westwood, 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:43.480 between twenty twelve chip Kelly and twenty eighteen chip Kelly, 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:47.480 assuming twenty twelve chip Kelly is not just dropped down 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:48.640 in southern California. 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:52.160 I think some of the differences are the influences around him. 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:54.520 You know, He's been a lot of different places. He 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:57.360 obviously spent time in the NFL, where I think there's 0:10:57.440 --> 0:11:01.120 some elements I think he's probably I don't say more 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:04.520 open to but probably been more exposed to some trial 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:06.480 and error and saying hey, we can do it this way, 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:11.760 and probably more adaptable to what he has to work 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:14.000 with or what he might not have to work with. 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.360 And I think you see, you know, when he was 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:19.679 when he was at Oregon, obviously it worked great because 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:21.800 they they I think it was like forty six and 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:24.400 seven and four years as a head coach, but a 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:28.800 lot of those assistants were Ballatti guys and were longtime 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:31.040 Oregon guys, Whereas in this case, it's not to say 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:33.840 that he doesn't have guys who who know him, because 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:35.480 he's got, you know, guys who worked with him with 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:37.560 the Niners and guys who work with him with the Eagles, 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:42.800 and there are a couple of you know, Oregon disciple 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:45.160 guys there. But I just think a lot of these 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:50.720 different elements. I think, you know, it's not twenty twelve, 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:52.520 and I think, you know, if you want an example, 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:54.400 it's not to say he's going to be exactly like 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:58.880 what Scott Frost was at UCF, But you saw UCF 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:03.079 in the last couple of years evolve is probably not 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:05.760 the right word, but you saw them really add on 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:08.160 to a lot of this stuff and they were able 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:11.000 to stay ahead of the curve. And I think that's 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:13.360 going to be interesting now. It took them a little 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.920 bit of time to go from winless to six and 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:21.280 seven to thirteen and zero, and I don't know how 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:24.120 quickly u CLA can make that. You know, we'll see 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:26.920 how good you know, Dorian Thompson Robinson is, and we'll 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:29.600 see how good you know, some of the skill pieces 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:34.199 around him, because I don't think it is right and 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:38.839 like a're going to be relying on freshmen or I 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:41.360 think to give them a big spark and make some impact, 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:43.240 and it's going to be an uphill climb. 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:48.200 You mentioned spending time in Seattle with Chris Peterson and Washington. 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:51.080 This is now his He's been there since twenty fourteen, 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.240 so my quick math says this will be. 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:56.360 His fifth year in Seattle. 0:12:56.760 --> 0:13:01.520 How close is Washington to not necessarily with talent, not 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:05.040 necessarily with you know, on field results, which obviously is 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:08.439 getting closer and closer, But is Washington getting to that 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:13.719 premiere level in terms of the the infrastructure of a 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:17.080 year in, year out, double digit win program where they 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:22.200 can just year over year, plug and play and become 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:28.000 basically the Pac twelve's version of you know, Clemson, Ohio State, Alabama, whoever, Oklahoma. 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:31.280 How close is Washington to that level of infrastructure? 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:35.560 I think they're right now where it is maybe with Oklahoma. 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:38.800 The difference to me between you know, Clemson and Alabama 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:43.040 and all the other ones in that group, and I 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:45.600 put Ohio State and with the other new with Clemson 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:51.040 and Ohio and Alabama. Is just the ability to load 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:56.800 up on big line of scrimmage difference maker kind of guys. 0:13:57.360 --> 0:13:59.480 You know, it's not to say that Washington hasn't had 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.240 any of them. Vitave certainly is that or was that, 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:05.760 But I just think you see it with offensive line guys, 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:08.880 and I think you certainly see it with front seven guys. 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:12.480 Now they have some. I think in the back end 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:16.120 they definitely have it. The area where I think they 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:20.520 are most needy is they need some of these young 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.360 receivers who they just signed, who aren't there yet to 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:27.360 come in and make an impact. You know, they have 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:31.760 Chigo mcclatcher, who's a good He's kind of when you 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:33.560 look at him and say, okay, he's kind of an 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:35.680 X factor guy in terms of some of the stuff 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:37.680 you can do with fly sweeps and different things like that. 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.040 He was out the spring, he missed last year. I 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:44.160 think they need him, not necessarily to be a complete 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:47.160 go to guy. But then there's other guys. Ty Jones, 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:51.200 who's big, rangy, not super fast, but he has some athleticism, 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:54.720 but they need him to be a reliable go to guy, 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:58.080 especially in the red zone, and there's other receivers that 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:00.840 they need to really blossom. Run game, I think they 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:04.240 should be good. I think Miles Gaskins really underrated, not 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.920 the biggest running back in the country, but he is. 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:11.160 He's explosive, he's really smart. I think they can count 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:12.960 on him. You know, he fits with what they're doing, 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:16.680 and so that helps, you know, you just get at 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:19.080 I think Chris Peterson is really about as good as 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:22.680 there is a developing a team and building it that 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:27.320 way because he is so smart in you know, when 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:29.600 you talk about building a culture, I think he gets it. 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:33.400 You saw that at Boise and you I think you've 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:36.360 seen it now. Obviously he's I mean, to me, he's 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:38.920 one of the five best coaches in college football. And 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:41.640 it's not necessarily because he's loading up on five star 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:45.440 guys every year. I mean, I think it's it's not 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:48.160 it's it's harder to do it when you don't have 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:51.360 you know, maybe the same you know ability and the 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:55.560 same level of school's commitment or at Geographically, there's just 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:58.880 not as many of those kinds of guys with a 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:05.160 within an our flight of Seattle. It's just not. So 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:08.520 that's the part that's going to be I think they're 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:11.000 ready to take the next big step. I think that 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:12.720 we're going to find out a lot more in their 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:15.640 opener because they play Auburn and that's basically a de 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:18.720 facto home game for Auburn and not a big statement 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:21.000 I think for the Pac twelve as well, so year. 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:23.040 In, year out, and I guess we'll just shift to 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:26.680 another team that wears purple. TCU is another team that 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:29.800 has built a culture. They just gearing in year out, 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.480 win much more often than not. They go to the 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:36.320 Big Twelve championship game last year and get throttled from 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:38.920 by Oklahoma once again. But you spend a little bit 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:43.080 of time in Fort Worth, is there anything striking about 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:45.840 what's new? Or is it, you know, a business as 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:48.120 usual in a very good way for the Frogs. 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:51.240 I think what's different about them because I've been going 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:54.920 there pretty much for like the last ten years, like 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:58.120 in the offseason either you know, every other year or so. 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:02.120 And to me, what's different is the caliber of big 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:06.920 people he has been able to get, especially in the 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:10.600 last few years. Their d line is pretty impressive. You know, 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:13.119 when you have a six four three hundred and thirty 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:17.639 pound athletic, athletic guy like lost Blacklock. I think that 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:22.840 is something you just haven't seen them have that kind 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:25.360 of option. You know, in the middle of their defense. 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:28.159 They had linebackers who can run, and what you know 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:31.920 he was able to do when he got that thing 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:35.280 really cranked up, was they would take you know, former 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:39.640 running backs and different guys and turn them into defensive lineman. 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:42.879 You know, the Jerry Hughes guys and everything. But I 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:46.920 think that is now really changed because they have so 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:52.480 many really impressive guys with good feet who are big. 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:55.280 I mean, Blacklock's the best example of it, but there's 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:57.520 other guys who are behind him who I think would 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:00.960 have started and played sixty six these snaps a game, 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:03.560 and now there are guys that maybe can play thirty 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:06.879 because they're just deeper there. You know Ben Managu who's 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:10.600 a developmental guy who started out Louisiana Monroe and is 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:13.280 a local guy who's there. You know, he's a good 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:17.960 edge rusher. They have a lot of good linebackers, safeties, 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:20.440 and I think but he's so good at being Patterson 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:23.920 is he's the defensive coordinator. No head coaches any more 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:27.080 hands on on the defensive side of the ball than him, 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:30.040 and he develops them and prepares him so well. People 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:32.680 have seen the success. The facilities are good, No, the 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:36.200 stadiums not huge, but they're in a talent hub in 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:40.560 that DFW area, so you see it with the how 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:42.960 it's carry it over. I mean, they have pretty athletic 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:47.520 receivers that are young guys. You know Jalen Riegers, come on, 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:50.040 they have you know, he was impressive last year. They 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:52.280 have a couple of freshmen they registered at Tay Barber 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:54.400 as an early enrol league kid who who I think 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:57.320 Clemson tried to get on late. They're really excited about him. 0:18:57.520 --> 0:18:59.800 So you know, whether I think it's going to be 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:03.359 Robinson who started a little bit last year when Kenny 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:06.520 Hill got hurt, and he's a physical runner. You know, 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:10.200 we'll see, you know how he is, how accurate and 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:14.600 consistent he can be. But I think if the offensive line, 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:17.520 which has got to be overhauled somewhat because they lost 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:21.200 some guys, if their offensive line can gel, I think 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:22.840 they should be a double digit win team. 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:26.360 Interesting, let's go to another school that you spent time 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:30.119 I guess a former Big twelve school and the talent 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:33.639 issue to me seems relevant. So you go to Lincoln, Nebraska, 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:36.000 and a lot is made, obviously and rightfully so, of 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:38.720 Scott Frost coming home and bringing this big, high octane 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:42.520 Oregon and UCF offense to Lincoln and overhauling everything. What 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:45.000 is the actual talent level in Lincoln right now? 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:50.200 I think it's better than I had initially thought it was. 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:50.680 Okay. 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:53.639 The areas where I think it's good is they have 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:56.840 three legit receivers who I think would play almost anywhere. 0:19:57.960 --> 0:19:59.800 You know. One of them has been there for a while, 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:04.879 Stanley Morgan. He's a Louisiana kid. He's physical and he's productive. 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:09.119 You know, six', one about two hundred. Pounds they are 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:12.399 super high on him because he's what they're looking for 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:15.880 just in terms of the, toughness the physicality to buy. 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:18.880 In and they HAD. Jd spielman not had a really 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:23.200 good freshman. Year return, guy slot, guy tough. Kid you. 0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:26.920 Know his Uncle's Chris. Spielman his father is THE gm 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:30.080 of The, Vikings Rick. Spielman he was a good player last. 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:32.080 YEAR i think he's only you, know continue to get. 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:33.960 Better the other one Is Tai John lindsay was a 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:37.320 former five star recruit had been committed To Ohio. State 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:40.040 he struggled last. Year he wasn't mentally, ready you, know 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:43.520 as a true. Freshman Everything i've heard from the guys 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:46.240 WHEN i was down there was he has really bought 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:50.520 in and he. Is he is matured a, lot AND 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:52.760 i think that both players and coaches see. It and 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:55.920 he's so good in. SPACE i think that will really help. 0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:57.879 Them so, THERE i think they're really. Good and obviously 0:20:58.000 --> 0:21:01.560 with the, SYSTEM i think that boats. Well offensive LINE 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:04.159 i think is nowhere near what you would have expected 0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:07.760