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Speaker 3: all right, and with that, welcome on Bruce Feldman. First
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Speaker 3: today with of course Bruce Feldman from Fox Sports One
Speaker 3: on the sideline reporting Sports Illustrated. You're all over the
Speaker 3: place SI dot com. You are the I would argue
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a it's actually my kids who like that.
Speaker 2: I am so, but we are. It's legit. I'm in
Speaker 2: there like once a week. Same.
Speaker 1: I appreciate the honesty.
Speaker 3: I mean, Trader Joe's sponsor, you're on the audible with
Speaker 3: Stuart Mandel of the Athletics, So I think it's all happening.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I am a big Trader Joe's guy. We you know,
Speaker 2: we have like the bedcome of the Mattress company. That's legit.
Speaker 2: I really like that. So it's all you know, it's
Speaker 2: all good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, people don't understand. So we really do use the
Speaker 3: things that sponsors send us.
Speaker 1: This is all very real.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, would you most like to
Speaker 2: and don't give me like some you know, Jaguar, some
Speaker 2: fancy car dealership there, right, But let's say this, what
Speaker 2: place that would be a reasonable fit for your podcast?
Speaker 2: Would you most like to cultivate as tough.
Speaker 3: As a sponsor? God, that's a good question. I mean,
Speaker 3: Apple would be great. It wouldn't make a ton of
Speaker 3: sense because they don't need us. There are a couple
Speaker 3: of clothing companies that if I could restock my wardrobe.
Speaker 1: I wear a lot of clothes. You know what Everlane.
Speaker 2: Is is that a company that's big in plaid.
Speaker 1: It is not big. It's all sorts of materials and patterns.
Speaker 3: Everlaine. There's a store that's all over now called Unicloth.
Speaker 3: They're in la I'd happily take a sponsorship from them,
Speaker 3: somewhere where I can like literally wear the sponsorship. I
Speaker 3: think would be the most convenient for me.
Speaker 2: What about you, okay, uh, torchies, tacos.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, that'd be nice.
Speaker 2: And I actually reached out to them a couple of times,
Speaker 2: not stalking, but you know, I had had them tweet
Speaker 2: at me once on something. So when a couple of
Speaker 2: years ago, my first two years of doing Sideline, I
Speaker 2: was in the Big ten A lot. Those are the games.
Speaker 2: We ended up doing the Big twelve A lot, And
Speaker 2: so every Friday I would take my Sideline producer to
Speaker 2: a torchise now because they were in there. They're in Oklahoma,
Speaker 2: you know, in Norman, all over Texas. So it was
Speaker 2: very it was it just worked out great. And so
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I'm gonna be on the road in
Speaker 2: the Big twelve A lot. This would be a good fit.
Speaker 2: I'm a huge Torchies fan.
Speaker 1: H what's your order?
Speaker 2: My order is one chicken, one steak, Tahoe taco. I
Speaker 2: am not very exotic on on some of the other stuff.
Speaker 1: You gotta get more. They have a fried avocado taco.
Speaker 2: That's not me avocado.
Speaker 1: You gotta go for it.
Speaker 2: Bruce, I'm a great Wow.
Speaker 3: Okay, so you were in, you were in Oklahoma a lot,
Speaker 3: and then suddenly you're in the Big Ten.
Speaker 2: Big twelve now, and then there's all over the Big twelve.
Speaker 2: So that's why it's fitting at last this past year,
Speaker 2: my crew is in the Big ten A lot aren't
Speaker 2: tor Cheese, So it wouldn't have kind of been as
Speaker 2: natural a tie in. But because we did do a
Speaker 2: couple of Oklahoma games and we're in, uh did the
Speaker 2: Big twelve title game, so that would have been that
Speaker 2: would have worked out. But for the most part, Uh,
Speaker 2: it wasn't the case last year. But that was one
Speaker 2: I pushed Stu on. I said we ought to get
Speaker 2: on tor cheese, and I put the other one he
Speaker 2: had suggested. Yeah. So and at one point, uh, you
Speaker 2: know Kevin Burkhart, I do, he's the Yeah, great guy anyway,
Speaker 2: So I think it's some point he and I both
Speaker 2: became like on the same bandwagon of Lululemon for men.
Speaker 2: You know, closed is good, come premium af leasionable, Yes,
Speaker 2: and it's just great stuff for getting on a plane
Speaker 2: and whatnot and just your day of travel. So ik,
Speaker 2: at some point I might have reached out to them.
Speaker 1: Wow, I appreciate this hustle. By the way, it's late April.
Speaker 3: So to anybody listening to this and complaining inside their
Speaker 3: head that we haven't gotten into college football yet, it's
Speaker 3: late April and we're going to hear Bruce's thoughts on
Speaker 3: ath leisure and soft tacos, that's just how it.
Speaker 2: We're sorry, Sorry, this this is what happens when when
Speaker 2: Tye has jury duty or whatever Tie's doing right now.
Speaker 3: It's very true. Okay, let's transition to college football because
Speaker 3: it is the spring. Because this is I don't know
Speaker 3: how many years of you doing spring tours. You've sort
Speaker 3: of been all over this spring, so overarching, because there's
Speaker 3: not always a ton to take away from spring, particularly
Speaker 3: spring scrimmages, games, whatever. Did you see anything that is
Speaker 3: that your positive is going to be meaningful even though
Speaker 3: it was just spring.
Speaker 1: As you look forward to the twenty eighteen season, yes.
Speaker 2: I would be positive that UCLA desperately needs its incoming
Speaker 2: true freshmen to learn the system really fast and be
Speaker 2: mature and be focused because they need help.
Speaker 1: Why.
Speaker 2: They just don't have much personally, you know, so much
Speaker 2: talent right now. You know, the best, the most talented
Speaker 2: kid in the program, Jalen Phillips is an edge rusher.
Speaker 2: He was out for the spring. And they have a
Speaker 2: couple of defensive backs, but beyond and you know, defensively
Speaker 2: they have a few pieces. Offensively, they don't have much
Speaker 2: right now. And I think when you look at the
Speaker 2: schedule they have and I said this on our podcast
Speaker 2: the other day as I kind of went through it
Speaker 2: just thinking in real time, I think it's a stretch
Speaker 2: to think they are going to be favored in more
Speaker 2: than two games this year. Wow. And those two games
Speaker 2: will be the opener with Cincinnati, who have bad year,
Speaker 2: and the other one would be a game against Fresno
Speaker 2: who's coming off a double digit win season. And I'm
Speaker 2: not you know, I'm not positive they're going to be
Speaker 2: favored in that game because that's coming off of a
Speaker 2: game at Oklahoma, where I think Oklahoma could could beat
Speaker 2: them by four touchdowns.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're talking about a Cincinnati team that I
Speaker 3: think is one of the best three, maybe group of
Speaker 3: five recruiters recently with Luke Fickle and Fresno, which has
Speaker 3: a really good defense, like like a legitimately good defense
Speaker 3: they do.
Speaker 2: Now they're gonna have a new defensive coordinator, right, they're old,
Speaker 2: DC went back to the CFL. But still you know,
Speaker 2: they won double digit games, and you know that those
Speaker 2: kids on that team are going to look at and go,
Speaker 2: you sill a man, you guys never recruited me, And
Speaker 2: there's going to be a lot of passion for that.
Speaker 2: So and there's probably a you got Jeff Tedford who's
Speaker 2: coached against Chip Kelly a lot, and I'm sure that
Speaker 2: there's you know, there's going to be that one circle too.
Speaker 2: So whenever you get one of those like like last year,
Speaker 2: I know San Diego State relished whi ASU and beating Stanford,
Speaker 2: you know, there's kind of their little brother vibe to it.
Speaker 2: So so that was that was you know, a big
Speaker 2: takeaway some of the other places. You know, I think
Speaker 2: Washington is going to be really good. I think they're
Speaker 2: loaded in the secondary with young talented guys, and I
Speaker 2: think that I think they have a shot to go
Speaker 2: to the playoff this year, a real shot not only
Speaker 2: to go, but to do some damage when they get
Speaker 2: there this year.
Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough, What is the biggest difference? Not to
Speaker 3: spend too much time on UCLA, but what is the
Speaker 3: biggest difference in your eyes? Having spent time around him
Speaker 3: before in Eugene and now a little bit in Westwood,
Speaker 3: between twenty twelve chip Kelly and twenty eighteen chip Kelly,
Speaker 3: assuming twenty twelve chip Kelly is not just dropped down
Speaker 3: in southern California.
Speaker 2: I think some of the differences are the influences around him.
Speaker 2: You know, He's been a lot of different places. He
Speaker 2: obviously spent time in the NFL, where I think there's
Speaker 2: some elements I think he's probably I don't say more
Speaker 2: open to but probably been more exposed to some trial
Speaker 2: and error and saying hey, we can do it this way,
Speaker 2: and probably more adaptable to what he has to work
Speaker 2: with or what he might not have to work with.
Speaker 2: And I think you see, you know, when he was
Speaker 2: when he was at Oregon, obviously it worked great because
Speaker 2: they they I think it was like forty six and
Speaker 2: seven and four years as a head coach, but a
Speaker 2: lot of those assistants were Ballatti guys and were longtime
Speaker 2: Oregon guys, Whereas in this case, it's not to say
Speaker 2: that he doesn't have guys who who know him, because
Speaker 2: he's got, you know, guys who worked with him with
Speaker 2: the Niners and guys who work with him with the Eagles,
Speaker 2: and there are a couple of you know, Oregon disciple
Speaker 2: guys there. But I just think a lot of these
Speaker 2: different elements. I think, you know, it's not twenty twelve,
Speaker 2: and I think, you know, if you want an example,
Speaker 2: it's not to say he's going to be exactly like
Speaker 2: what Scott Frost was at UCF, But you saw UCF
Speaker 2: in the last couple of years evolve is probably not
Speaker 2: the right word, but you saw them really add on
Speaker 2: to a lot of this stuff and they were able
Speaker 2: to stay ahead of the curve. And I think that's
Speaker 2: going to be interesting now. It took them a little
Speaker 2: bit of time to go from winless to six and
Speaker 2: seven to thirteen and zero, and I don't know how
Speaker 2: quickly u CLA can make that. You know, we'll see
Speaker 2: how good you know, Dorian Thompson Robinson is, and we'll
Speaker 2: see how good you know, some of the skill pieces
Speaker 2: around him, because I don't think it is right and
Speaker 2: like a're going to be relying on freshmen or I
Speaker 2: think to give them a big spark and make some impact,
Speaker 2: and it's going to be an uphill climb.
Speaker 3: You mentioned spending time in Seattle with Chris Peterson and Washington.
Speaker 3: This is now his He's been there since twenty fourteen,
Speaker 3: so my quick math says this will be.
Speaker 1: His fifth year in Seattle.
Speaker 3: How close is Washington to not necessarily with talent, not
Speaker 3: necessarily with you know, on field results, which obviously is
Speaker 3: getting closer and closer, But is Washington getting to that
Speaker 3: premiere level in terms of the the infrastructure of a
Speaker 3: year in, year out, double digit win program where they
Speaker 3: can just year over year, plug and play and become
Speaker 3: basically the Pac twelve's version of you know, Clemson, Ohio State, Alabama, whoever, Oklahoma.
Speaker 3: How close is Washington to that level of infrastructure?
Speaker 2: I think they're right now where it is maybe with Oklahoma.
Speaker 2: The difference to me between you know, Clemson and Alabama
Speaker 2: and all the other ones in that group, and I
Speaker 2: put Ohio State and with the other new with Clemson
Speaker 2: and Ohio and Alabama. Is just the ability to load
Speaker 2: up on big line of scrimmage difference maker kind of guys.
Speaker 2: You know, it's not to say that Washington hasn't had
Speaker 2: any of them. Vitave certainly is that or was that,
Speaker 2: But I just think you see it with offensive line guys,
Speaker 2: and I think you certainly see it with front seven guys.
Speaker 2: Now they have some. I think in the back end
Speaker 2: they definitely have it. The area where I think they
Speaker 2: are most needy is they need some of these young
Speaker 2: receivers who they just signed, who aren't there yet to
Speaker 2: come in and make an impact. You know, they have
Speaker 2: Chigo mcclatcher, who's a good He's kind of when you
Speaker 2: look at him and say, okay, he's kind of an
Speaker 2: X factor guy in terms of some of the stuff
Speaker 2: you can do with fly sweeps and different things like that.
Speaker 2: He was out the spring, he missed last year. I
Speaker 2: think they need him, not necessarily to be a complete
Speaker 2: go to guy. But then there's other guys. Ty Jones,
Speaker 2: who's big, rangy, not super fast, but he has some athleticism,
Speaker 2: but they need him to be a reliable go to guy,
Speaker 2: especially in the red zone, and there's other receivers that
Speaker 2: they need to really blossom. Run game, I think they
Speaker 2: should be good. I think Miles Gaskins really underrated, not
Speaker 2: the biggest running back in the country, but he is.
Speaker 2: He's explosive, he's really smart. I think they can count
Speaker 2: on him. You know, he fits with what they're doing,
Speaker 2: and so that helps, you know, you just get at
Speaker 2: I think Chris Peterson is really about as good as
Speaker 2: there is a developing a team and building it that
Speaker 2: way because he is so smart in you know, when
Speaker 2: you talk about building a culture, I think he gets it.
Speaker 2: You saw that at Boise and you I think you've
Speaker 2: seen it now. Obviously he's I mean, to me, he's
Speaker 2: one of the five best coaches in college football. And
Speaker 2: it's not necessarily because he's loading up on five star
Speaker 2: guys every year. I mean, I think it's it's not
Speaker 2: it's it's harder to do it when you don't have
Speaker 2: you know, maybe the same you know ability and the
Speaker 2: same level of school's commitment or at Geographically, there's just
Speaker 2: not as many of those kinds of guys with a
Speaker 2: within an our flight of Seattle. It's just not. So
Speaker 2: that's the part that's going to be I think they're
Speaker 2: ready to take the next big step. I think that
Speaker 2: we're going to find out a lot more in their
Speaker 2: opener because they play Auburn and that's basically a de
Speaker 2: facto home game for Auburn and not a big statement
Speaker 2: I think for the Pac twelve as well, so year.
Speaker 3: In, year out, and I guess we'll just shift to
Speaker 3: another team that wears purple. TCU is another team that
Speaker 3: has built a culture. They just gearing in year out,
Speaker 3: win much more often than not. They go to the
Speaker 3: Big Twelve championship game last year and get throttled from
Speaker 3: by Oklahoma once again. But you spend a little bit
Speaker 3: of time in Fort Worth, is there anything striking about
Speaker 3: what's new? Or is it, you know, a business as
Speaker 3: usual in a very good way for the Frogs.
Speaker 2: I think what's different about them because I've been going
Speaker 2: there pretty much for like the last ten years, like
Speaker 2: in the offseason either you know, every other year or so.
Speaker 2: And to me, what's different is the caliber of big
Speaker 2: people he has been able to get, especially in the
Speaker 2: last few years. Their d line is pretty impressive. You know,
Speaker 2: when you have a six four three hundred and thirty
Speaker 2: pound athletic, athletic guy like lost Blacklock. I think that
Speaker 2: is something you just haven't seen them have that kind
Speaker 2: of option. You know, in the middle of their defense.
Speaker 2: They had linebackers who can run, and what you know
Speaker 2: he was able to do when he got that thing
Speaker 2: really cranked up, was they would take you know, former
Speaker 2: running backs and different guys and turn them into defensive lineman.
Speaker 2: You know, the Jerry Hughes guys and everything. But I
Speaker 2: think that is now really changed because they have so
Speaker 2: many really impressive guys with good feet who are big.
Speaker 2: I mean, Blacklock's the best example of it, but there's
Speaker 2: other guys who are behind him who I think would
Speaker 2: have started and played sixty six these snaps a game,
Speaker 2: and now there are guys that maybe can play thirty
Speaker 2: because they're just deeper there. You know Ben Managu who's
Speaker 2: a developmental guy who started out Louisiana Monroe and is
Speaker 2: a local guy who's there. You know, he's a good
Speaker 2: edge rusher. They have a lot of good linebackers, safeties,
Speaker 2: and I think but he's so good at being Patterson
Speaker 2: is he's the defensive coordinator. No head coaches any more
Speaker 2: hands on on the defensive side of the ball than him,
Speaker 2: and he develops them and prepares him so well. People
Speaker 2: have seen the success. The facilities are good, No, the
Speaker 2: stadiums not huge, but they're in a talent hub in
Speaker 2: that DFW area, so you see it with the how
Speaker 2: it's carry it over. I mean, they have pretty athletic
Speaker 2: receivers that are young guys. You know Jalen Riegers, come on,
Speaker 2: they have you know, he was impressive last year. They
Speaker 2: have a couple of freshmen they registered at Tay Barber
Speaker 2: as an early enrol league kid who who I think
Speaker 2: Clemson tried to get on late. They're really excited about him.
Speaker 2: So you know, whether I think it's going to be
Speaker 2: Robinson who started a little bit last year when Kenny
Speaker 2: Hill got hurt, and he's a physical runner. You know,
Speaker 2: we'll see, you know how he is, how accurate and
Speaker 2: consistent he can be. But I think if the offensive line,
Speaker 2: which has got to be overhauled somewhat because they lost
Speaker 2: some guys, if their offensive line can gel, I think
Speaker 2: they should be a double digit win team.
Speaker 3: Interesting, let's go to another school that you spent time
Speaker 3: I guess a former Big twelve school and the talent
Speaker 3: issue to me seems relevant. So you go to Lincoln, Nebraska,
Speaker 3: and a lot is made, obviously and rightfully so, of
Speaker 3: Scott Frost coming home and bringing this big, high octane
Speaker 3: Oregon and UCF offense to Lincoln and overhauling everything. What
Speaker 3: is the actual talent level in Lincoln right now?
Speaker 2: I think it's better than I had initially thought it was.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: The areas where I think it's good is they have
Speaker 2: three legit receivers who I think would play almost anywhere.
Speaker 2: You know. One of them has been there for a while,
Speaker 2: Stanley Morgan. He's a Louisiana kid. He's physical and he's productive.
Speaker 2: You know, six', one about two hundred. Pounds they are
Speaker 2: super high on him because he's what they're looking for
Speaker 2: just in terms of the, toughness the physicality to buy.
Speaker 2: In and they HAD. Jd spielman not had a really
Speaker 2: good freshman. Year return, guy slot, guy tough. Kid you.
Speaker 2: Know his Uncle's Chris. Spielman his father is THE gm
Speaker 2: of The, Vikings Rick. Spielman he was a good player last.
Speaker 2: YEAR i think he's only you, know continue to get.
Speaker 2: Better the other one Is Tai John lindsay was a
Speaker 2: former five star recruit had been committed To Ohio. State
Speaker 2: he struggled last. Year he wasn't mentally, ready you, know
Speaker 2: as a true. Freshman Everything i've heard from the guys
Speaker 2: WHEN i was down there was he has really bought
Speaker 2: in and he. Is he is matured a, lot AND
Speaker 2: i think that both players and coaches see. It and
Speaker 2: he's so good in. SPACE i think that will really help.
Speaker 2: Them so, THERE i think they're really. Good and obviously
Speaker 2: with the, SYSTEM i think that boats. Well offensive LINE
Speaker 2: i think is nowhere near what you would have expected
Speaker 2: A nebraska front to. Be they do have some experience up.
Speaker 2: THERE i think a big key and we saw this
Speaker 2: in the spring. Game Adrian, martinez who had been committed To,
Speaker 2: tennessee you, know would have gone there if Which jones.
Speaker 2: Did he every that has made. MATURITY i think he.
Speaker 2: Is he's the, future if not the, present of this.
Speaker 2: Offense you, know he's he's. In you look at. Him
Speaker 2: he's not like a strong. Kid he looks like he's
Speaker 2: a quarterback who's twenty, one not you, know should still
Speaker 2: be in high. School you, know we'll see he's coming
Speaker 2: off a shoulder. Injury SO i don't know if he's
Speaker 2: quite one hundred percent in terms of where they want
Speaker 2: him to be on, that but you, KNOW i think
Speaker 2: if he's the, GUY i think that is a building
Speaker 2: block for them for a. While if, NOT i would
Speaker 2: say it's maybe you Know Tristan, jevia who's kind of
Speaker 2: from where you're. From, yeah same hythleticism, too, yep, yeah
Speaker 2: AND i know people like him. Too so so those
Speaker 2: are two decent, options especially because they're so. Young on
Speaker 2: the defensive side of the, ball they have some pretty
Speaker 2: good d linemen who played a, lot, so you, know the,
Speaker 2: secondary WHICH i thought should have been better than it
Speaker 2: was last. Year they had some injuries and just it
Speaker 2: was kind of. Disconnect they've done well with SOME jc
Speaker 2: transfers who are already in. There there's so the parts
Speaker 2: WHERE i see where it's questionable is they don't have
Speaker 2: a quarterback with. Experience that's an obvious. Thing they do
Speaker 2: not have a, true you, know workhorse running back at
Speaker 2: this point to have between durability issues and. Whatnot AND
Speaker 2: i think there is some question mark in the in
Speaker 2: the defense where there's no real dominant. Player there's certainly
Speaker 2: nothing like in dominicant, two but there's nothing even close to,
Speaker 2: that but that you could say about a lot of.
Speaker 2: Schools to, me this team WHEN i saw, them compared
Speaker 2: to like SEEING, Ucla nebraska has considerably more. TALENT i
Speaker 2: think that he does right. Now, wow super Interesting and
Speaker 2: they won four games last?
Speaker 1: Year they did win four?
Speaker 3: Games and what sense did you get spending time Around
Speaker 3: Scott frost spending time around the staff?
Speaker 1: There the job he's doing just in terms of.
Speaker 3: Managing, people managing expectations given it sort of Like Golden
Speaker 3: boy Comes. Home we don't see a lot of coaches
Speaker 3: going back to their alma mater and succeeding with A
Speaker 3: i guess a super high. Rate paul Christ is done
Speaker 3: a really good job in that, division but that was
Speaker 3: a well oiled machine basically when he got. There what
Speaker 3: Is Scott? Frost what has his experience been early on
Speaker 3: just in dealing with that type of fish, bowl eyeball.
Speaker 2: Environment you, KNOW i don't think he's really worried about
Speaker 2: managing expectations too. MUCH i spent a good amount of
Speaker 2: time with, him and there wasn't a lot of off the.
Speaker 2: Record these kids, suck so you, know don't. Whatever, NOW
Speaker 2: i think realistically this is probably a six or seven when,
Speaker 2: team because you look at their schedule and there's going
Speaker 2: to be a bunch games where they have a chance to,
Speaker 2: win But i'm not sure they, will especially with an
Speaker 2: inexperienced quarterback and you, know a defense that was horrible last.
Speaker 2: Year SO i think people know you don't go from
Speaker 2: four and a to ten and two no matter who
Speaker 2: the coach, is, Realistically SO i think he's, like you know,
Speaker 2: what this is what the expectation is going to. Be
Speaker 2: our team is going to play, Harder we're going to
Speaker 2: be more, competitive we are going to be. Tougher AND
Speaker 2: i know the fan base and these people well enough
Speaker 2: to know they're going to see, that and they're smart
Speaker 2: enough to know that's what we. Want that's the direction
Speaker 2: we need to go, in and they know it's not
Speaker 2: gonna you, know it's not realistic to. Expect, okay this
Speaker 2: guy took a team that was winless and then within
Speaker 2: two years, later. I'mdefeated like year, two we're going to be.
Speaker 2: UNDEFEATED i don't think he expects, that but you, KNOW
Speaker 2: i don't think he'd be thrilled THAT i say. This
Speaker 2: BUT i think by year, THREE i think they're a
Speaker 2: top fifteen team by year, two especially one of these
Speaker 2: quarterbacks really. Blossoms and this IS i think they'd have
Speaker 2: a chance to be it by year or, two to
Speaker 2: be a team that's a legit top twenty five.
Speaker 3: Team sort of, related AND i wonder about this from
Speaker 3: time to, time not all that. Often why Doesn't Bo
Speaker 3: polini have a bigger job at this? Point is he
Speaker 3: that objectionable as a manager leader type or is it
Speaker 3: just he had his shot and is sort of happy In.
Speaker 2: Youngstown you, know that's an interesting question just because you
Speaker 2: look and his. Record you, KNOW i think he was
Speaker 2: there six. Years only one year he didn't have a
Speaker 2: top twenty five, finish and if you look across the,
Speaker 2: board that's a lot better than a lot of people
Speaker 2: who get. Jobs his team seem to like, him but
Speaker 2: his sideline demeanor was so volatile THAT i think that
Speaker 2: makes ads and presidents a little, uncomfortable especially as you
Speaker 2: get further and further down, this you, know down this
Speaker 2: road of. Decorum, sure especially with you, know back when
Speaker 2: both of us were growing, up especially WHEN i was
Speaker 2: growing up Because i'm, older where it was like you
Speaker 2: just didn't have so many, Games everything wasn't ON, tv
Speaker 2: there weren't so many cameras on. People there wasn't social
Speaker 2: media to, like you, know let's, say you, know The
Speaker 2: Woody hayes example is you, know again The Gator bowl
Speaker 2: or whatever with The clemson hitting The clemson. Linebacker you
Speaker 2: know that there's video of. It BUT i just think
Speaker 2: in this day and, age when something like, that maybe
Speaker 2: that's you, know even a stronger example of, it but
Speaker 2: something even less you, know holy you, know holy shipped
Speaker 2: kind of component to. IT i just think that that
Speaker 2: would get everything blows. Up and so because of, THAT
Speaker 2: i think there's a certain schools that you just couldn't see,
Speaker 2: both you, know saying, hey we're going to hire A
Speaker 2: bopolini and roll the dice on. THAT i don't, know you,
Speaker 2: know if you're if You're, illinois and let's say it
Speaker 2: doesn't work out With Lovey, smith you turn around to
Speaker 2: go To bopolini and, like you know what this guy can?
Speaker 2: Win mm, hm you, know do we do? This you,
Speaker 2: know certainly THEY'RE i don't know if he would even
Speaker 2: think of a mac job as anymore is a big
Speaker 2: step up from where he's, at you, know in his
Speaker 2: and his coaching and his basically in his backyard, now
Speaker 2: so clearly he knows what he's. Doing it's just that
Speaker 2: stuff On SATURDAYS i think makes people.
Speaker 3: Uncomfortable, Wow, OKAY i just you see coaches freak out
Speaker 3: all the time and say, weird stupid, things and they
Speaker 3: everybody seems to be getting more and more, chances and
Speaker 3: he's developed a ton OF nfl. Talent BUT i, guess,
Speaker 3: yeah it's it's an, individual case by case. Thing this
Speaker 3: is also a season of aside from teams practicing and
Speaker 3: new coaches getting a first look at their, talent it's
Speaker 3: talent getting a first look at new. Coaches because we are,
Speaker 3: squarely if not at the back end of the grad transfer.
Speaker 3: Markets what are names that people should know that the,
Speaker 3: expectation obviously as a grad transfer that they will make
Speaker 3: an immediate impact as somebody, experienced AND i suppose moving
Speaker 3: up to a higher profile.
Speaker 2: Platform, WELL i would start With Calvin, anderson who Left
Speaker 2: rice and had all sorts of. Interest, yep he was
Speaker 2: a two star offensive lineman From, austin played really, well he's,
Speaker 2: incredible incredibly. Intelligent YouTube any of this stuff about him
Speaker 2: with you, know GOING rubishu backwards and forward without you,
Speaker 2: know looking all this other, stuff but he's got really good.
Speaker 2: FEET i Think herb handed recruit him At auburn and
Speaker 2: then was able to actually close the deal and get
Speaker 2: him At. Texas certainly they lost In Connor, williams a
Speaker 2: really good, tackle AND i think that is a is
Speaker 2: a key piece for. Them you, know they it's no,
Speaker 2: secret you know they're going to probably end a drought
Speaker 2: that was ten years long of not having an offensive
Speaker 2: lineman even drafted in THE. Nfl AND i Think calvin
Speaker 2: is that guy WHO i Think i'm not saying he's
Speaker 2: gonna be a first round, pick but you, know he's
Speaker 2: a really good talent AND i think he should fit
Speaker 2: in well and be an impact. Guy you, know one
Speaker 2: That i'm curious to see what's going to be is
Speaker 2: Is Keller christ, who as you, know is played at
Speaker 2: them for then lost his starting job to kJ. COSTELLO
Speaker 2: i think there's probably pretty big expectations from The tennessee.
Speaker 2: Fans we'll see if he can beat Out Jared guarantano
Speaker 2: when he gets. There but you, know if if he does,
Speaker 2: that because It's tennessee and because there's so much attention
Speaker 2: on that program and it's the first year there For Jeremy.
Speaker 2: PRUDE i think they'll Be that'll be an interesting. One
Speaker 2: and then you, KNOW i would look at the flip
Speaker 2: side of that is a guy Like Gardner, minshew who
Speaker 2: is At East, carolina had been a. Starter will he
Speaker 2: Become Mike leach's trigger. Man he had been a you,
Speaker 2: know he'd been committed To alabama and knew it was
Speaker 2: a long shot that he would he would play there
Speaker 2: with the quarterbacks, there but you, know from his, perspective
Speaker 2: he wants to be a coach and learning From Nick
Speaker 2: saban would be. GOOD i think he knows that he
Speaker 2: can Learn Mike leech's system and there is a big
Speaker 2: need for a new quarterback, there so you, know there's
Speaker 2: a chance to put up a lot of numbers in
Speaker 2: that system up in. Pullman so that's another ONE i
Speaker 2: WOULD i would keep an eye. On you, know just
Speaker 2: in terms of a stats, perspective we.
Speaker 3: Are sort Of i'll stay On alabama a little, bit
Speaker 3: but we're sort of in an era where an, incoming super,
Speaker 3: type blue, chip true freshman quarterback is now it's assumed
Speaker 3: he's going to push anybody that's even a little bit,
Speaker 3: less anybody that's a little bit less than. Excellence and
Speaker 3: we saw it last year With Jake from And Jacob.
Speaker 3: Eason we saw it a few years ago With Deshaun
Speaker 3: watson And Cole, stout who obviously was not a blue
Speaker 3: chip and sort of game changing quarterback For. Clemson but
Speaker 3: now this year we have Now Jake from supposedly not
Speaker 3: necessarily being, pushed but sharing a depth chart with one
Speaker 3: of those blue chip. Types we Have Trevor Lawrence. Clemson
Speaker 3: we last year had two attack Of. Biloa it's tongue Of.
Speaker 1: AILOA i. BELIEVE i want to get that.
Speaker 2: RIGHT i believe so.
Speaker 3: Too, yeah tongue iiloah sort of Supplanting Jalen hurts at
Speaker 3: least in The National championship, game and their stories About
Speaker 3: Jalen hurts. Transferring are are any of these new? Guys
Speaker 3: SO i Guess lawrence And fields comparable to previous situations
Speaker 3: at those schools where a true freshman immediately supplanted the.
Speaker 2: Incumbent you, KNOW i think the one probably most likely
Speaker 2: to overtake the guy could Be lawrence At. Clemson you, Know,
Speaker 2: Yeah clemson went to the playoff last. YEAR i Think Kelly,
Speaker 2: bryants you, know had a good. Season but when you
Speaker 2: look at his passing, numbers there was a lot left
Speaker 2: to be, desired and you don't want to read a
Speaker 2: ton into a spring, game but there were some shots
Speaker 2: he missed. Downfield you can see the frustration when he.
Speaker 2: Missed him And lawrence hit some big throws in that,
Speaker 2: game and there's a ton of hyph. BUILDING i, mean
Speaker 2: let's not forget there was like another five star guys
Speaker 2: also in between them And Hunter, johnson and you know
Speaker 2: they got good. Receivers the expectations on that team are sky,
Speaker 2: high especially with the guys who decided to come back on.
Speaker 2: Defense so to, ME i would check, that put a
Speaker 2: check mark next to that. One you, know as good
Speaker 2: AS i Think Justin field, is AND i think, he's you,
Speaker 2: know ultra, talented maybe even more talented Than Trevor, lawrence
Speaker 2: but you know he's he's trying to overtake a guy
Speaker 2: And Jake frumb who led his team to a national title.
Speaker 2: Game and also when you look At george's, SCHEDULE i
Speaker 2: don't know where the game after a long, cold you,
Speaker 2: know could be a tricky spots after LINE i think
Speaker 2: is pretty, good but there's a good chance that they
Speaker 2: Will they've En georgia will not play a team that
Speaker 2: is in the top fifteen or top twenty even until
Speaker 2: Mid november when they Play. Auburn. Wow and so when
Speaker 2: you think about, that it's, like, okay they could just
Speaker 2: kind of roll along business as, usual because If alabama
Speaker 2: was Drilling, georgia let's, say there's probably no call to
Speaker 2: Give tua that shot to kind of rescue. Them and
Speaker 2: so if you're not really, CHALLENGED i think that you, know,
Speaker 2: Yeah Justin fields will play in some you, know games
Speaker 2: that turn out to be. Lopsided BUT i just don't
Speaker 2: know how many meaningful under you, know in pressure situations
Speaker 2: that he may get.
Speaker 3: Is to a sure, THING i, mean not necessarily to,
Speaker 3: start but it seems everybody remembers the one admittedly perfect
Speaker 3: throw to end The National championship game and win it For,
Speaker 3: Alabama but it seemed like every, play every other play before,
Speaker 3: that he was sort of a wild, card as true
Speaker 3: freshmen tend to. Be is does he strike you as somebody, That,
Speaker 3: okay he wins the job Over Jalen, Hurts Jalen hurts,
Speaker 3: Transfers tua is, dependable, consistent you, know everything that people
Speaker 3: thought he would after that? Throw or is there a
Speaker 3: pretty significant unknown quantity to.
Speaker 2: HIM i, Mean i'm bullish on, him but there's still
Speaker 2: some unknown AND i think people who are just, saying,
Speaker 2: Oh Jalen hurts is gonna leave are forgetting some of
Speaker 2: the games that he won for. THEM i would go
Speaker 2: back to when he's a freshman In Baton, rouge in
Speaker 2: a tough place to, play where they are just you,
Speaker 2: know in a slug fest where there's not a lot
Speaker 2: of yards to be, found where LSU's defense is pretty,
Speaker 2: nasty and all of a, sudden basically the difference Was
Speaker 2: jalen hurts his. Wheels and it's not to say to
Speaker 2: it it can't, run because he, can but JUST i
Speaker 2: think you saw a guy who's more physical as a
Speaker 2: runner than probably he's given credit, for and has the
Speaker 2: toughness as a burst and that stuff which helps you win.
Speaker 2: Games and also you, know, yeah they're not gonna they
Speaker 2: weren't gonna take a ton of shots at. Risk like
Speaker 2: when they Played washington early in the, Game Jalen hurths
Speaker 2: almost got picked off and you can kind of See
Speaker 2: Lane kiffen And Nick saban just kind of throttled down and, Going,
Speaker 2: okay we can win this. Game Being alabama. Football we
Speaker 2: don't need to try to go Have Baker mayfield run
Speaker 2: the show. Here AND i just think that's a little
Speaker 2: bit of a. Departure if you look at what they
Speaker 2: have won national titles. With ever Since Nick saban's got,
Speaker 2: there there has been no like lights, out big, time
Speaker 2: stretch the field pass OR aj mccerrn's pretty. Good but they,
Speaker 2: haven't you, know just look across the. Board they've had
Speaker 2: quote unquote game manager. TIGHTS i know, that's you, know
Speaker 2: an unfair, cliche but they know they have an elite
Speaker 2: defense as elite as it. Gets they have physical running
Speaker 2: game with a good offensive. Line, yeah they got really
Speaker 2: good receivers, Too BUT i just think they know our
Speaker 2: bread and butter is we don't need to get too
Speaker 2: fancy to win a ton of. Games and, again you
Speaker 2: look at the schedule they, have THEY i don't what
Speaker 2: are they going to play one top twenty team in
Speaker 2: the regular? Season maybe that might be.
Speaker 3: It, wow another team THAT i think has has lost a,
Speaker 3: lot but WAS i think they finished the season twelfth
Speaker 3: in the top twenty. Five and you've spent some time around.
Speaker 3: THERE usc has to replace a lot of different pieces
Speaker 3: on different.
Speaker 1: Levels on both sides of the.
Speaker 3: Ball how DIFFERENT i guess will they look and are
Speaker 3: they actually going to start a what should be a
Speaker 3: high school senior at.
Speaker 2: QUARTERBACK i think they will end up STARTING. Jt, daniels
Speaker 2: that high school, senior NOT. Jt. Daniels and you, know in,
Speaker 2: actuality he's turned. Eighteen. Ok, yeah he's pretty much the
Speaker 2: same age as most incoming freshmen. Are so from that,
Speaker 2: standpoint he's very. TALENTED i think the best thing for
Speaker 2: him is he's going to have a really really good
Speaker 2: group of. RECEIVERS i mean what they have And Tyler
Speaker 2: vaughns And Michael, pittman and now you're going to add
Speaker 2: on his, Guy i'm On Ross Saint, brown who everybody
Speaker 2: thinks is going to be a really big time college.
Speaker 2: Receiver so that's a plus, now you, know Without Sam.
Speaker 2: Darnold the other thing Is Ronald jones was a really explosive.
Speaker 2: Back now he wasn't great in the receiving, game BUT
Speaker 2: i think, that you, know leaning on The Stephen carr
Speaker 2: if he gets healthy he missed the, SPRING i think
Speaker 2: that's a big TIME usc. Back i'm not sure you
Speaker 2: know how special the guys behind him. Are the offensive
Speaker 2: line has been really underwhelming for much of the last,
Speaker 2: decade AND i don't expect them to be to be
Speaker 2: at the upper level of offensive line groups in the. Country,
Speaker 2: defensively they have more depth now than they, did you
Speaker 2: know in the last few. Years you, Know Porter gustin's
Speaker 2: a really good pass. Rusher as long as he stays,
Speaker 2: HEALTHY i think he'll be really productive in a loss
Speaker 2: To Chennan, Nuosu WHO'S i think their best player on
Speaker 2: defense secondary is is pretty, good BUT i don't think
Speaker 2: it's much more than. That but LIKE i, said they
Speaker 2: do have more depth back. THERE i don't think there's
Speaker 2: a guy in the on THE d line itself who
Speaker 2: is a special. Like there's No Leonard williams or anything
Speaker 2: close to that right. Now and to, me that's the
Speaker 2: part that WHEN usc was was on top of the
Speaker 2: college football, world they're close to. IT usc, had you,
Speaker 2: know big time studs up. Front you can go back
Speaker 2: to Uh Sham clady was a good, Player Mike patterson
Speaker 2: was a great. Player Kenichi, daisy who actually coaches these guys,
Speaker 2: now is a really good pass. Rusher, Certainly Cedric ellis
Speaker 2: was a monster when he was going and then when
Speaker 2: they got hit by the. Scholarships you Had Leonard, williams
Speaker 2: who is a who is a real stud and but
Speaker 2: even like the layers below, that you, know Like Frosty
Speaker 2: rucker and and guys like that who's had a LONG nfl. Career, now,
Speaker 2: uh you know you look at some of Those jarrell
Speaker 2: K i, mean those guys were good. PLAYERS i don't
Speaker 2: know if they have anybody who's even And Jerrell casey's
Speaker 2: trying out to be a BETTER nfl player than probably people.
Speaker 2: Thought But i'm just, saying, like those guys were really good.
Speaker 2: Players AND i think that's WHERE usc on both the
Speaker 2: offensive line and defensive line has really dropped a notch
Speaker 2: or two below where they where would come to expect.
Speaker 2: Them and maybe they'll get back to that, point but
Speaker 2: THEY i just don't think they've been able to develop
Speaker 2: linemen the way they used. To and so IF. Jt
Speaker 2: daniels is really really good and hits the ground, running
Speaker 2: you know they should be able to win ten. Games
Speaker 2: if he's not and they and he looks like a
Speaker 2: true freshman playing in A power five conference at, quarterback
Speaker 2: you know they could go eight and, four and that's
Speaker 2: not a good place to be if You're Clay, helton
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i don't think he's getting the benefit of the
Speaker 2: doubt from a lot OF usc fan, bases even though he's.
Speaker 2: Won he's won A Rose bowl and won A pack twelve.
Speaker 2: TITLE i just think people are looking and, GOING i don't,
Speaker 2: Know i'd rather have the who's coaching The bruins right?
Speaker 3: Now and, finally you spent some time In, eugene So
Speaker 3: i'll be selfish, here BUT i know we do have
Speaker 3: a lot of duck. Listeners what is your snapshot in
Speaker 3: the first spring Of Mario? Cristobal they have their. Quarterback,
Speaker 3: obviously recruiting has improved these past couple of years from
Speaker 3: where it was the last couple of years Of Mark.
Speaker 3: Helfrich but what is your what is your, talent your,
Speaker 3: process your sort of big picture snapshot of Where oregon football.
Speaker 1: Is having seen them up, CLOSE i think this.
Speaker 2: Place, is you, know doing it to be a recruiting.
Speaker 2: Machine you, Know i've just kind of gotten a taste
Speaker 2: of like how much they've rammed things. Up it is.
Speaker 2: Glitzy they are playing up to their to their facilities
Speaker 2: in ways that you know you'd see it and go.
Speaker 2: OKAY i can see how they're trying to wow these
Speaker 2: kids with. Flash you, Know Mario crystabal was as good
Speaker 2: a recruiter as or as in the country when he
Speaker 2: was at you, know his previous. Stops AND i think
Speaker 2: he's got his legs under him and his, figured you,
Speaker 2: know figure out how to apply WHAT i know to
Speaker 2: WHERE i work, now AND i think the people around
Speaker 2: him have the buy, in so in that part's the
Speaker 2: big plus they are going to. Be you, know his
Speaker 2: mask kicks ass. Philosophy you, know for a long Time
Speaker 2: oregon one With speed's not to say they didn't have
Speaker 2: some really good big, people because they, did BUT i
Speaker 2: think he is looking at it, going, hey we signed
Speaker 2: five really talented offensive. Lineman beat some some top top other.
Speaker 2: Schools for some of the guys they brought. IN i
Speaker 2: think the smallest guy they're bringing in is six, five three.
Speaker 2: Twenty there was a kid who was signed was in this,
Speaker 2: class is From philadelphia. Area he's six, seven three seventy
Speaker 2: one or, something AND i saw him on the. Visit
Speaker 2: he didn't even look like a sloppy three seventy. One
Speaker 2: he's just a massive. Individual so THAT i think is
Speaker 2: going to be part of their. Identity you, know the
Speaker 2: quarterback is really. GOOD i mean he's, good he's, big
Speaker 2: he's you, know he's a you, know very pleasure and
Speaker 2: you know he's got some of The marcus personality where
Speaker 2: he's almost like he's so nice you can't believe he's,
Speaker 2: actually you, know real kind of. Thing but he's just
Speaker 2: a sweet kid who's talented and can. Run is everything
Speaker 2: you're looking. For just need to see his leadership continue
Speaker 2: to develop the parts WHERE i think they need help right.
Speaker 2: Now you, Know Royce streatman was really. GOOD i don't
Speaker 2: think they have that, big, big physical running back. There
Speaker 2: they have some some guys who can run and they're,
Speaker 2: smaller you, know, situational you, know running back by committee.
Speaker 2: Guys the receiving core needs. Depth they just don't have enough.
Speaker 2: Receivers you look at THE d line and some of the.
Speaker 2: Linebackers they have, some they have, some they don't have
Speaker 2: enough of, them but they have some some really athletic
Speaker 2: people who are, tough and that's kind of what you're looking.
Speaker 2: For fair.
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