Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind from how Stuff
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Speaker 1: My name is Robert Lamb, and I'm a senior writer
Speaker 1: here at how stuff works dot com. And hello there,
Speaker 1: I'm Julie Douglas, writer, editor and lead flip bottomist. This
Speaker 1: is our second episode. Last time we talked about animals
Speaker 1: going to sleep shutting off half their brain, and this
Speaker 1: week we're gonna go in a slightly grosser direction. Tell me, Julie,
Speaker 1: did you have any like strange childhood fears? Um? I
Speaker 1: don't know that I've had really any terribly odd childhood fears. Um.
Speaker 1: Fear of clowns, of course, Uh, fear of my neighbors, right, windows, latches,
Speaker 1: things like that. What about you? Just okay, so you
Speaker 1: just had like clowns other people and things that open.
Speaker 1: But otherwise, yeah, stepping on vertical cracks on the left
Speaker 1: hand side, okay when when going in the direction of
Speaker 1: the north. Yeah, okay, Yeah, Well I don't see how
Speaker 1: that could have gotten in the way at all. No, No,
Speaker 1: honestly I didn't. I was a fairly uh normal child
Speaker 1: when it came to that. Well, I had this fear
Speaker 1: for a while um of turning inside out, which I
Speaker 1: suspect that a lot of people had this on some level,
Speaker 1: um for reasons I'm gonna get to in a moment,
Speaker 1: but I it all goes back to when when I
Speaker 1: was a kid, my family would go to the local
Speaker 1: video store and we you know, you know, me and
Speaker 1: my sisters, we were all kids, you know, in my family.
Speaker 1: They weren't really into getting horror movies. But the horror
Speaker 1: movie aisle was there, and they had all these just
Speaker 1: crazy um covers in the vhs, uh, you know, cases
Speaker 1: and um, and you just walked by them and you'd
Speaker 1: see these things and you you know, you're my mind
Speaker 1: would just sort of run wild with what they could
Speaker 1: possibly contain. And there was this one box for this
Speaker 1: film called Screamers, which was a nineteen nine film, and
Speaker 1: you can look the cover art up online by doing
Speaker 1: like the Google search, and because it's like really crazy,
Speaker 1: because it's like this dude that's like turned inside out
Speaker 1: and he, you know, he just looks horrific. And then
Speaker 1: the like the tag at the bottom of the boxes
Speaker 1: they turned men inside out and worse yet, they were
Speaker 1: still alive, you know, And so it just it it
Speaker 1: got into my head that turning inside out was something
Speaker 1: that could happen to you, or happen your body would do,
Speaker 1: or that's something that would be done to your body
Speaker 1: and that you'd still be alive, and it'd be horrendous.
Speaker 1: And then you know, I imagine you'd go to the
Speaker 1: doctor and you know, your parents are taking is like
Speaker 1: what can you do for him? He's turned inside out?
Speaker 1: And they would be like, wait, I can't do anything
Speaker 1: for him. I'm sorry, your son is just inside out.
Speaker 1: From now on, you'v sitting in in what your third
Speaker 1: grade class, just sitting there using your workings, just using
Speaker 1: all over the place and like pulsating and stuff. That's
Speaker 1: really horrible. I mean, were you sitting there in the
Speaker 1: middle of the night saying to myself, you know, saying
Speaker 1: to yourself, oh my god, this could happen at any
Speaker 1: moment um. Well, it wasn't that paralyzing, but it was
Speaker 1: just kind of it was just this feeling of like,
Speaker 1: you know, I guess when youre a kid, you don't
Speaker 1: think as much about mortality, but certainly it was kind
Speaker 1: of a a lesson in Oh my goodness, it's like
Speaker 1: we're really fragile. We could just we could turn inside
Speaker 1: out and then we're you know, so it was like
Speaker 1: the moment where you just lost your innocence. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Pretty much every time we all went to the via
Speaker 1: the video store would see something like that that would
Speaker 1: you know, it would beat down your your your innocence
Speaker 1: a little. But I suspect that that other people have
Speaker 1: this problem as well, because I don't know if you've
Speaker 1: ever seen, um, people turning inside out in cartoons, like
Speaker 1: kids cartoons, but it happens like more than you think
Speaker 1: it would, like you can dial up horror movies. Besides,
Speaker 1: the other interesting thing about Screamers is that it actually
Speaker 1: I found out years and years later, it doesn't have
Speaker 1: anybody turning inside out in it. It's actually like an
Speaker 1: Italian uh film about fishmen. It stars Joseph Cotton, of
Speaker 1: all people. Yeah he was his seminal Italian film actor.
Speaker 1: Yeah and um and so yeah, they just like decided
Speaker 1: that they were going to distribute it in the US
Speaker 1: with this crazy cover with the guy turned inside out,
Speaker 1: and they think they shot something for a trailer that
Speaker 1: I've never seen that has like a dude supposedly turning
Speaker 1: inside out. So it was like a bait and switch
Speaker 1: of turning inside out. But you know, as a kid,
Speaker 1: I never really really thought about it or a question
Speaker 1: why in the cover art the guy is inside out
Speaker 1: but wearing jeans, like yeah, I think I think I'm
Speaker 1: familiar with this, and he's got a belt and is
Speaker 1: it is it possible that the top is that button
Speaker 1: is undone as well, so it's like he's in partial
Speaker 1: undressed or yeah, like I don't know if he's like,
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, I've turned inside out, I'd better throw
Speaker 1: in some jeans or if you like, ingested jeans and
Speaker 1: then turned inside out and that's how con he happens
Speaker 1: to be wearing the jeans correctly. But I didn't think
Speaker 1: about those things right, right. But but no, like you
Speaker 1: look at like children's cartoons like Invader Zim, Are you
Speaker 1: familiar with that one? That was the Nickelodeon show kind
Speaker 1: of Dark because there is a scene where a kid
Speaker 1: gets sucked through a portal and he comes out like
Speaker 1: inside out and then he kind of like you know,
Speaker 1: shakes it off and he like flaps it back to normal.
Speaker 1: And then there was another Nickelodeon show, Nickelodeon, There's Somebody
Speaker 1: in Nickelodeon was really into turning inside out. Apparently there
Speaker 1: was a show called inside Out Boy about a kid
Speaker 1: who's on the swing. Yeah, have you seen this? I'm
Speaker 1: familiar with it, Okay, I've heard descriptions of it before.
Speaker 1: And he like went over he like swung so high
Speaker 1: that he did a complete like three sixty. But it
Speaker 1: turned him inside out. So he's just just like grotesque
Speaker 1: little gut boy walking around, you know. And it's and
Speaker 1: he just I don't know, he has powers or something,
Speaker 1: and it's it's totally fine for for kids. Well yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe because it's uh, it's it's sort of a lesson, right,
Speaker 1: like don't go too high in your swing, yeah, or
Speaker 1: inside out, and um, it's a neat way maybe to
Speaker 1: work out our fears. But what I want to know is,
Speaker 1: could you actually turn yourself inside out and live to
Speaker 1: tell it? Um? I think I figured out pretty early,
Speaker 1: and I think most of our listeners will't. We'll realize
Speaker 1: that you can't really because the human body is just
Speaker 1: a little too complicated and a little too rugged, you know,
Speaker 1: like like basically like for it to happen, you have
Speaker 1: to be like a sock puppet, you know, where you know,
Speaker 1: you could just like when you pull a sock puppet
Speaker 1: off or when you pull a sock off your foot
Speaker 1: and it just goes completely inside out. Like we're just
Speaker 1: you know, the human anatomy isn't geared to that to
Speaker 1: living with our organs on the other side, right, and
Speaker 1: any like any you know force that would it would
Speaker 1: even like apply that kind of pressure on the human body.
Speaker 1: I mean it would it would you know, you would
Speaker 1: have like total body fragmentation before you had anything of
Speaker 1: that nature happened. We're both too fragile and not rugged
Speaker 1: enough to undergo that kind of transformation. Interesting paradox. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: But just because the human body can't turn completely inside out,
Speaker 1: as we all should know, that doesn't mean that this process,
Speaker 1: which is called aversion, uh doesn't exist all over the
Speaker 1: place in the natural world. UM. So you know that's
Speaker 1: what we're gonna talk about today. Just run through some
Speaker 1: of the examples of aversion in animals, um and and
Speaker 1: to eliminated extent with humans and uh, and just how
Speaker 1: amazing and gross it can be. And it's it's it's
Speaker 1: some good grotesque stuff. What's the so what do you
Speaker 1: what one stands out to you? Just right off the
Speaker 1: bat in terms of a very simple process of aversion. Well,
Speaker 1: in human anatomy, you can have, um, the examples of
Speaker 1: like like, there's bladder aversion that can happen. And we're
Speaker 1: not gonna got a whole lot of detail on this
Speaker 1: because it's you know, it's kind of gross. It sounds convenient,
Speaker 1: though I have to say, yeah, it's It's different from
Speaker 1: bladder evacuation, um, which is rather generally a rather pleasant
Speaker 1: experience as long as you know it's not in your
Speaker 1: pants on a roller coaster or something. But but no,
Speaker 1: this is a situation where the bladder, being an internal organ,
Speaker 1: ends up on the outside through a you know, generally
Speaker 1: a naturally occurring orifice. But you can you can also
Speaker 1: have a version occur with injuries where something will get
Speaker 1: kind of glooped out to the outside, right um and um.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, it tends to be like an injury
Speaker 1: or internal trauma type situation. Uh, you know, it becomes
Speaker 1: prolapsed to where it's it's on the outside now and
Speaker 1: it needs to be pushed back in or you know,
Speaker 1: in some way repaired. But but you have a lot
Speaker 1: of animals where a version is just part of like
Speaker 1: their daily routine, just how they go about eating or
Speaker 1: digesting things or defending themselves. So um of those like
Speaker 1: the the c Star is a classic example of that.
Speaker 1: And if anybody out there watched the Discovery UH and
Speaker 1: Slash BBC documentary series Life this year, Uh, they had
Speaker 1: a whole segment where it's c Stars feeding on this
Speaker 1: corpse underwater. Their cadaver were not cadaver, just a dead
Speaker 1: seal um. But they spit their stomachs out. They avert
Speaker 1: their stomachs under the outside of their bodies to work
Speaker 1: at the digesting. So it just kind of sucks up
Speaker 1: everything and pulls it back in. Yeah, exactly, which again
Speaker 1: that's convenient. You see yourself at a buffet doing that.
Speaker 1: Maybe not you, but yeah, I would. You're not going
Speaker 1: to go to a buffet and then this this same
Speaker 1: it's just you don't you don't get your your money's
Speaker 1: worth out of it, and like you just really pick
Speaker 1: out You're completely right unless you just completely avert your
Speaker 1: your your your stomach you know. Oh and the documentary
Speaker 1: series Life also shows these nimmertine worms feeding and they
Speaker 1: actually use they actually have what's called any versible probiscus
Speaker 1: and this is just their they're feeding mechanism is completely averted,
Speaker 1: and then they just kind of like pump it out
Speaker 1: with these muscles and it's like a snout sort of
Speaker 1: going Yeah, it's like a long snout, but it's basically
Speaker 1: it's about the length of their body, but it's adverted,
Speaker 1: so it's kind of like completely cool. Yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: like completely pulled inside and then they just it's they're
Speaker 1: kind of like a party favor, you know, where you
Speaker 1: like blow on it, rhythm kind of like extends, it's
Speaker 1: like that, and then it snaps back, yeah, and then
Speaker 1: they pull it back in. And so that's I think
Speaker 1: that's our good examples of getting your food from inversion.
Speaker 1: I think uh sharks and raised they are sort of
Speaker 1: doing the opposite, right, like dumping. Yeah, they have this
Speaker 1: thing called gastric aversion, and it's kind of like if
Speaker 1: you're you know you weren't like if you're wearing blue
Speaker 1: jeans and you turn the pocket out to get rid
Speaker 1: of lent and find some loose change. They do the
Speaker 1: same thing with their stomachs out of their mouth, um,
Speaker 1: and you can find videos of it online. It's like
Speaker 1: a real it's like a really quick function, you know,
Speaker 1: because you know your shark, you're you live in a
Speaker 1: dangerous situation. You don't just want to, you know, be
Speaker 1: swimming around owned all day with your stomach hanging out
Speaker 1: your mouth. So they just go it's kind of like
Speaker 1: this quick coolaw and then then it's you know, it's
Speaker 1: out shakes, free some you know, debris, and then it's
Speaker 1: right back in. So it's like ancient Rome for the
Speaker 1: animal kingdom and that there, it's like the vomitorium, except
Speaker 1: that there's no loot playing in the background to cover
Speaker 1: up the noise. Yeah, but it's exactly like like I
Speaker 1: think the way I was thinking of it's like with cats.
Speaker 1: Like we both know that cats love to puke, you know,
Speaker 1: it's where I don't know if they love it, but
Speaker 1: they do it without it's no big deal. It's just
Speaker 1: a part of their lives. Sometimes you got a puke
Speaker 1: and they do it. So with sharks and rays, puking
Speaker 1: isn't isn't the option, it's gastric aversion. So it's just
Speaker 1: it's no big deal for them, right, and so that
Speaker 1: way they can scoop up even more food rights that right, Okay,
Speaker 1: And another really cool animal is the vampire squid. Oh yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: tell us about that, because that little creature for large creature,
Speaker 1: not quite sure how large it is, it's pretty fascinating. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna attempt to make a shot at its
Speaker 1: Latin name because it's pretty awesome. Um Vampora toothist infernales.
Speaker 1: It's like the the infernal vampire or something uma the
Speaker 1: dark seas. It lives about a half mile deep in
Speaker 1: the ocean, and it has these um, this like webbed
Speaker 1: array of eight inch arms, so you know, it has
Speaker 1: like the the squid arms like your you know, cephalopod
Speaker 1: arms like you typically see, except they're all webb together,
Speaker 1: and it looks like a cape like a vampire's cloak.
Speaker 1: Perhaps it's very like steam punky looking, I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can. I can easily imagine like wearing a little
Speaker 1: like top hat and having a you know. But but
Speaker 1: he will do this thing where he goes into a
Speaker 1: threat response stance that is sometimes called pumpkin or pineapple posture,
Speaker 1: which kind of I mean that doesn't sound you know,
Speaker 1: these cools vampire and in infernal you know. But but
Speaker 1: he'll basically take this um, you know, his array of
Speaker 1: arms these web this web array of arms and and
Speaker 1: like pull it back over the rest of his body.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like if you were to take
Speaker 1: your lower lip and your upper lip and you were
Speaker 1: able to like stretch your lips back all the way
Speaker 1: over your body until you were just like, you know,
Speaker 1: pink glistening meat. That's kind of what they do. And
Speaker 1: so that's so a predator might go, WHOA, that wasn't
Speaker 1: what I thought it was, right, And also also they
Speaker 1: have these little they're not really spikes, but they have
Speaker 1: these lines of things on the inside. It looked like spikes.
Speaker 1: So then when they go into pineapple stands, they look
Speaker 1: a little spiky. So again, lad the impale are there? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that that's fascinating that you can turn yourself,
Speaker 1: you can essentially shape shift as an animal to say
Speaker 1: to a predator, you know, hey, watch out, or I
Speaker 1: am not what you thought I was. And and one
Speaker 1: of the things that I'm thinking about is the c cucumber.
Speaker 1: Oh this is a good one, yeah, which is much
Speaker 1: exalted in Japanese culture, and the c cucumber to me,
Speaker 1: cuc where I can see where they got the name,
Speaker 1: but it really looks more like a sea sausage. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's like you look at it and you can't
Speaker 1: really tell that it's a little I don't know, it's
Speaker 1: it's not the most vibrant of living things, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just kind of looks kind of gross and still. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And and it comes into a ton of varieties like that.
Speaker 1: Some of them look like they've been oxidized, and some
Speaker 1: of them, um look like very psychedelic with warts on them,
Speaker 1: not warts. And they're anywhere from like under one inch
Speaker 1: to six and a half feet in length. So in
Speaker 1: terms of um how they're represented out there, there's a
Speaker 1: huge variety. And not all of them do what I'm
Speaker 1: about to talk about, but some of them have a
Speaker 1: really interesting defense mechanism. And if you don't mind me
Speaker 1: being so bold, I'll just get right to the point.
Speaker 1: They can take their internal organs and jettison them from
Speaker 1: their anus. That's and this is of course a trick
Speaker 1: best performed when you can read inter rate said organs right,
Speaker 1: exactly right. You don't want to lose organs unless you
Speaker 1: can get them back in about a week to four
Speaker 1: weeks or something like that. But the reason why I
Speaker 1: think that is so fascinating. Is that to me? Like,
Speaker 1: that's the ultimate bow up movement that you might have
Speaker 1: like in a bar fight. You know, if you if
Speaker 1: you were able to expel your internal organs for your
Speaker 1: anus and just splat them on your opponent. I mean
Speaker 1: to me, that's pretty intimidating. Yeah, I would think. So.
Speaker 1: I've run across other, you know, situations where an animal
Speaker 1: have some for response like that, Like there's um they're
Speaker 1: like there are different animals that like to go into
Speaker 1: a defensive posture. They either like vomit blood or they
Speaker 1: I think there's a frog that actually um like fractures
Speaker 1: some of its bones and like it creates compound fractures.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, um yeah, but any of those techniques
Speaker 1: if you were to pull that on Marta on the
Speaker 1: local transit system, if you were threatened, I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't think anybody would message oh no, yeah, everybody would
Speaker 1: move out of the car for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Have
Speaker 1: maybe like the one person that was still asleep, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm fortunate for them. But this, this uh, what's also
Speaker 1: called the sea slug the c cucumber, is just pretty
Speaker 1: fascinating in the sense that really does embody all those
Speaker 1: shape shifting elements to it. It also can collapse itself,
Speaker 1: which is really cool, the collagen fibers of it and
Speaker 1: pretty much the liquefy itself and go through cracks. And
Speaker 1: I mean again, that's an incredible shape shifting talent. I
Speaker 1: love to have that. Yeah. So it's not just a
Speaker 1: sea sausage. They're just sitting on the ocean floor. Actin
Speaker 1: like a bottom dweller has a rich life. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: if you think it's gross before you start messing with it,
Speaker 1: just wait until it has to like run away. It's
Speaker 1: gonna possibly shoot out its organs and and then turn
Speaker 1: into a liquid. That's yeah, that's right, de materialized. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I was actually not I wasn't aware of before today,
Speaker 1: just how how much of a role it apparently plays
Speaker 1: in Japanese culture, Like I didn't know. I guess I
Speaker 1: knew on some level that you could eat it because
Speaker 1: I think I've seen it on menus Like, have you
Speaker 1: ever had it anywhere? I have not. I think I
Speaker 1: have as well seen it on menus um and I'm
Speaker 1: thinking of Sushia. It could be completely wrong, but that's
Speaker 1: what I'm thinking about. And I guess it's a huge
Speaker 1: delicacy in Japan. Yeah, I think, uh, I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I I now, I do remember where I saw it.
Speaker 1: There's like a they're these little hot pot restaurants. It's
Speaker 1: like a Chinese thing where you have this. It's kind
Speaker 1: of like fon do, except you have a little pot
Speaker 1: to cook your pile of vegetables and and one of
Speaker 1: the meats that is available, I believe is cea cucumber. Wow.
Speaker 1: I did not have it. A friend of mine had it,
Speaker 1: and he I don't think he said he liked it,
Speaker 1: but he I think he said it was interesting. And
Speaker 1: it's uh also again referred to as sea slug. So
Speaker 1: you've you've got sea slug fon do. Yeah, it just
Speaker 1: doesn't it doesn't, you know, roll off the tongue is
Speaker 1: sounding quite delicious. But that and I think it's called
Speaker 1: sea slug because cucumber is not really translatable. Um from
Speaker 1: Japanese East English, which I think is in the book.
Speaker 1: What is it it called? Again, it's very it's just
Speaker 1: oh it's called namacomo. Yeah yeah. Yeah. Because we are
Speaker 1: in researching this, we both ran across the same book. Um,
Speaker 1: there's a it's called Risey Sea Slugs by Robin D.
Speaker 1: Gil and h it is a book about sea slug haiku.
Speaker 1: There are one thousand hi q about sea slugs. See
Speaker 1: that's just I mean, I really had to look at
Speaker 1: it against them, like this is a joke. This is
Speaker 1: some joke entry on Amazon, like back in the day
Speaker 1: when people would put fake movies on IMDb, Like this
Speaker 1: is just somebody's making this up. But it's it's legit.
Speaker 1: It's like they're that important in uh, you know, in
Speaker 1: in understanding like Japanese culture. Yeah, they're that celebrated. And
Speaker 1: what I like about is that the sections are defined
Speaker 1: by its various traits I guess as as we humans
Speaker 1: see it. And a couple of sections are um in
Speaker 1: the order of scatological, uh, melancholy. Um. There are a
Speaker 1: couple other ones in there, but you have to understand
Speaker 1: that um. The book is not only just celebrating the
Speaker 1: humble c cucumber, but it's also sort of talking about
Speaker 1: of the culture itself and how it is expressing itself
Speaker 1: through its love of the sea slug. Yeah, like there
Speaker 1: was and this makes perfect sense now that I you know,
Speaker 1: once I've I've read it. But there's a point in
Speaker 1: the book where they're talking about comparisons between this act
Speaker 1: of aversion that the c that the c cucumber performs
Speaker 1: with its guts, comparing that to the like the traditional um,
Speaker 1: you know, samurai act of sefuku um and maybe saying
Speaker 1: that wrong and then the westernized version of that is
Speaker 1: what Harry carry um and you know, so there are
Speaker 1: obvious similarities between you know, this this creature expelling its
Speaker 1: organs to escape of you know, danger, comparing that to say,
Speaker 1: a shame you know samurai if somebody you know, basically
Speaker 1: visrating themselves with a knife in order to save face. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so yes, that's the honor thing is a very interesting
Speaker 1: to bring up and to relate that back. Do you
Speaker 1: have one of the hiku a translation of the hiku? Yes, idea,
Speaker 1: I hope, Well you have to read that so people
Speaker 1: will get Well, this one is from seventy one, and
Speaker 1: I feel like it's still very relatable now. And it
Speaker 1: is from a writer whose name was Joe and I'm
Speaker 1: pronouncing that right. And it is a few drinks and
Speaker 1: I am a cea slug out of water. Oh that's
Speaker 1: that's that's actually really pretty yeah. And also I feel like, uh,
Speaker 1: in terms of of our predilection for maybe over extending
Speaker 1: ourselves with libations. It's it's still rings true today. There
Speaker 1: are times when after a few drinks, I feel that
Speaker 1: I am out of water as well. Well, some of
Speaker 1: the ones I found we're a little more grotesque. Um
Speaker 1: like this is one here, life's hard, no doubt. Sea
Speaker 1: slugs end up inside out. I love it. Oh and
Speaker 1: then there's this one sea slugs their guts are made
Speaker 1: to swim one days. It's a reminder. Yeah, and of
Speaker 1: course these are translations, so we can't really experience the
Speaker 1: true beauty of of you know, C cucumber aversion poetry. No, no,
Speaker 1: but I would say that. I mean, the holidays are
Speaker 1: coming up, so got a herrine biologist in your family?
Speaker 1: I think that you just found their present. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think Amazon has one copy left, so jumped to it. Yea,
Speaker 1: get on it. Yeah. So, I mean the thing about
Speaker 1: the c cucumbers is that we see this as a phenomenon.
Speaker 1: This inside out is something in nature. What about in
Speaker 1: terms of injuries, something self inflicted or even in pop culture? Um, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's one of those things where like the first thing
Speaker 1: that incident comes to mind for me when I think
Speaker 1: of something that could actually turn you inside out. Oh, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, another instance of a child's children's story
Speaker 1: featuring inside out things. How to Train Your Dragon, there's
Speaker 1: mention of a dragon that turns people inside out, so
Speaker 1: which it's a great movie, but it's like these like
Speaker 1: that was just the other day, like after I had
Speaker 1: researched the podcast some and then I saw that movie
Speaker 1: and I'm like, whoa, this is all over the place.
Speaker 1: People can't get enough of inside out things for children.
Speaker 1: It's embedded in our subconscious. There's also Slim Good Buddy,
Speaker 1: who I'm kind of on the fence, whether that's inside
Speaker 1: out this or just a dude in a suit we've
Speaker 1: gouts on the front of it. You remember Slim Good No, no,
Speaker 1: I can't tell me about something. Oh god, he's um.
Speaker 1: I believe he's Canadian. Could be wrong on that, but
Speaker 1: he's a Slim Good Bodies like a TV personality, and
Speaker 1: he was like generally you think of like the classic
Speaker 1: Slim Good body where he's got like kind of like
Speaker 1: he's got kind of like curly hair, and he was
Speaker 1: this like spandex body suit with all of the organs
Speaker 1: painted on the outside and he like talks to kids
Speaker 1: about like the importance of like eating healthy and you know,
Speaker 1: like the guy still travels around the day. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: I know, yes, yeah yeah, And so that's basically his
Speaker 1: whole stick is, you know, educating children about you know
Speaker 1: the importance of health and you know that taking care
Speaker 1: of your insides. Wow, there's gonna be one kid that
Speaker 1: just freaked out, you know, and he's saw him come
Speaker 1: to a school. It was like your organs running outside. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think I've I've seen parodies before where like
Speaker 1: people have done costumes where it's like Slim Bad Body,
Speaker 1: where they like show like you know, organs that have
Speaker 1: been like like the lungs are all blackened from smoking
Speaker 1: and things like like a huge momentum. Yeah, but outside
Speaker 1: of Slo good like Slim Good Body, again, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think he was actually inside out. I
Speaker 1: think you just had a suit with cuts on it.
Speaker 1: But but the the thing and instantly comes to mind
Speaker 1: is like, you know, like rapid depressurization like in a
Speaker 1: like in an airplane or you know, it's like it's
Speaker 1: always happening in space movies, but it's it's rarely. Um
Speaker 1: all that accurate. So I mean, are you talking more
Speaker 1: like suction or for something sally force and then also
Speaker 1: just like you know pressures, you know, the outside pressure
Speaker 1: changing and then destabilizing pressures inside the body. Um. Like
Speaker 1: there's a film called Outland that came back out in
Speaker 1: the seventies. I believe it's like a Sean Connery western
Speaker 1: in space, and it was one of these where people
Speaker 1: would like float out into you know, into the void
Speaker 1: without their helmet on and their head would explode, you know,
Speaker 1: like a balloon. Uh. And I think I think that
Speaker 1: happened in total recall as well, but you know, it's
Speaker 1: like it's things wouldn't really happen like that. I believe
Speaker 1: the Air Force conducted some some tests, um and you
Speaker 1: can find them results of it online where they took
Speaker 1: some salmon and uh and expose them to you know,
Speaker 1: rapid depressurreization, and they they did not turn inside out,
Speaker 1: because that's just silly, but but they did there was
Speaker 1: like some stomach aversion like through like holes. So so yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's the depression ization can cause some aversion, but
Speaker 1: it's not the kind of thing would turn the inside out. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm also thinking to you about some of the horrible
Speaker 1: urban myths that I've heard about before, and I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about like, oh good, I'm not gonna say this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like airplane toilets section. I mean I think that you
Speaker 1: can probably figure out yeah, that kind of stuff, um,
Speaker 1: you know, without like going into an actual like you know,
Speaker 1: case by case, you know, Snopes esque, and you know,
Speaker 1: analysis of the stories. It's like even even that at
Speaker 1: the most, you know, any kind of like um, you know,
Speaker 1: pressure based injury, um is going to just I think
Speaker 1: result in in like a pro lapse or a version
Speaker 1: of organs. But right, if they're not gonna get sucked out,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna sit on a toilet, see,
Speaker 1: I mean, the odds are that the section that you
Speaker 1: would create wouldn't be nearly strong enough to even lend
Speaker 1: itself to creating yeah, in evacuation of your bells, right,
Speaker 1: so to speak. Again, Yeah, this is and this is
Speaker 1: also a topic where we could we could go into
Speaker 1: more detail about all this. But well, if you're really
Speaker 1: that interested, there's some you know, you can do some
Speaker 1: more research on line. But we're good in trouble if
Speaker 1: we get into it too. Yeah, I think I feel
Speaker 1: like we're we've entered into the zone. Yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: one more, it's like again, going all the way around
Speaker 1: on the swing set will not turn you inside out, No,
Speaker 1: it will not. It may make you vomit, but you
Speaker 1: will not turn inside out. It will scare any adults viewing,
Speaker 1: and children could be more of it. Yeah, we're not abdicating. Well,
Speaker 1: I think you do. You do get a certain so,
Speaker 1: I mean I never I was never the type of
Speaker 1: child to even attempt that. But like the kids who
Speaker 1: would go really high in the swing set, like, that's
Speaker 1: instant cred right, I mean that's oh yeah, yeah again.
Speaker 1: I mean I guess that is the kid equivalent of
Speaker 1: just ejecting your your internal organs and spotting them on
Speaker 1: someone else's. That the metaphorical like, don't mess with me
Speaker 1: on this playground, kid. Well, well, on that note, we
Speaker 1: did you I do? Yeah, we did you? I do.
Speaker 1: If if you have any interesting tidbits about things turning
Speaker 1: inside out, either in your life or in fiction or
Speaker 1: in the realm of science, we may have missed something
Speaker 1: really awesome example from the biological world, let us know.
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Speaker 1: share with us, please we want to hear it. Yes,
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