1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind from how Stuff 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 3 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: My name is Robert Lamb, and I'm a senior writer 4 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: here at how stuff works dot com. And hello there, 5 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: I'm Julie Douglas, writer, editor and lead flip bottomist. This 6 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: is our second episode. Last time we talked about animals 7 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: going to sleep shutting off half their brain, and this 8 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: week we're gonna go in a slightly grosser direction. Tell me, Julie, 9 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: did you have any like strange childhood fears? Um? I 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: don't know that I've had really any terribly odd childhood fears. Um. 11 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: Fear of clowns, of course, Uh, fear of my neighbors, right, windows, latches, 12 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: things like that. What about you? Just okay, so you 13 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: just had like clowns other people and things that open. 14 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: But otherwise, yeah, stepping on vertical cracks on the left 15 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: hand side, okay when when going in the direction of 16 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: the north. Yeah, okay, Yeah, Well I don't see how 17 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: that could have gotten in the way at all. No, No, 18 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: honestly I didn't. I was a fairly uh normal child 19 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: when it came to that. Well, I had this fear 20 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: for a while um of turning inside out, which I 21 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: suspect that a lot of people had this on some level, 22 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: um for reasons I'm gonna get to in a moment, 23 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: but I it all goes back to when when I 24 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: was a kid, my family would go to the local 25 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: video store and we you know, you know, me and 26 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 1: my sisters, we were all kids, you know, in my family. 27 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: They weren't really into getting horror movies. But the horror 28 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: movie aisle was there, and they had all these just 29 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: crazy um covers in the vhs, uh, you know, cases 30 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: and um, and you just walked by them and you'd 31 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: see these things and you you know, you're my mind 32 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: would just sort of run wild with what they could 33 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: possibly contain. And there was this one box for this 34 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: film called Screamers, which was a nineteen nine film, and 35 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: you can look the cover art up online by doing 36 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: like the Google search, and because it's like really crazy, 37 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: because it's like this dude that's like turned inside out 38 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: and he, you know, he just looks horrific. And then 39 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: the like the tag at the bottom of the boxes 40 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: they turned men inside out and worse yet, they were 41 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: still alive, you know, And so it just it it 42 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: got into my head that turning inside out was something 43 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: that could happen to you, or happen your body would do, 44 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: or that's something that would be done to your body 45 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: and that you'd still be alive, and it'd be horrendous. 46 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: And then you know, I imagine you'd go to the 47 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: doctor and you know, your parents are taking is like 48 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: what can you do for him? He's turned inside out? 49 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 1: And they would be like, wait, I can't do anything 50 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: for him. I'm sorry, your son is just inside out. 51 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: From now on, you'v sitting in in what your third 52 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: grade class, just sitting there using your workings, just using 53 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: all over the place and like pulsating and stuff. That's 54 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: really horrible. I mean, were you sitting there in the 55 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: middle of the night saying to myself, you know, saying 56 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: to yourself, oh my god, this could happen at any 57 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 1: moment um. Well, it wasn't that paralyzing, but it was 58 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: just kind of it was just this feeling of like, 59 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 1: you know, I guess when youre a kid, you don't 60 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: think as much about mortality, but certainly it was kind 61 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: of a a lesson in Oh my goodness, it's like 62 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: we're really fragile. We could just we could turn inside 63 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: out and then we're you know, so it was like 64 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: the moment where you just lost your innocence. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 65 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: Pretty much every time we all went to the via 66 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: the video store would see something like that that would 67 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: you know, it would beat down your your your innocence 68 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: a little. But I suspect that that other people have 69 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: this problem as well, because I don't know if you've 70 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: ever seen, um, people turning inside out in cartoons, like 71 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: kids cartoons, but it happens like more than you think 72 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: it would, like you can dial up horror movies. Besides, 73 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: the other interesting thing about Screamers is that it actually 74 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: I found out years and years later, it doesn't have 75 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: anybody turning inside out in it. It's actually like an 76 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: Italian uh film about fishmen. It stars Joseph Cotton, of 77 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: all people. Yeah he was his seminal Italian film actor. 78 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: Yeah and um and so yeah, they just like decided 79 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: that they were going to distribute it in the US 80 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: with this crazy cover with the guy turned inside out, 81 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: and they think they shot something for a trailer that 82 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: I've never seen that has like a dude supposedly turning 83 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: inside out. So it was like a bait and switch 84 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: of turning inside out. But you know, as a kid, 85 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: I never really really thought about it or a question 86 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: why in the cover art the guy is inside out 87 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: but wearing jeans, like yeah, I think I think I'm 88 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: familiar with this, and he's got a belt and is 89 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: it is it possible that the top is that button 90 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: is undone as well, so it's like he's in partial 91 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: undressed or yeah, like I don't know if he's like, 92 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: oh my goodness, I've turned inside out, I'd better throw 93 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: in some jeans or if you like, ingested jeans and 94 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: then turned inside out and that's how con he happens 95 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: to be wearing the jeans correctly. But I didn't think 96 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: about those things right, right. But but no, like you 97 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: look at like children's cartoons like Invader Zim, Are you 98 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: familiar with that one? That was the Nickelodeon show kind 99 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: of Dark because there is a scene where a kid 100 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: gets sucked through a portal and he comes out like 101 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: inside out and then he kind of like you know, 102 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: shakes it off and he like flaps it back to normal. 103 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: And then there was another Nickelodeon show, Nickelodeon, There's Somebody 104 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: in Nickelodeon was really into turning inside out. Apparently there 105 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: was a show called inside Out Boy about a kid 106 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: who's on the swing. Yeah, have you seen this? I'm 107 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 1: familiar with it, Okay, I've heard descriptions of it before. 108 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: And he like went over he like swung so high 109 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: that he did a complete like three sixty. But it 110 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: turned him inside out. So he's just just like grotesque 111 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: little gut boy walking around, you know. And it's and 112 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: he just I don't know, he has powers or something, 113 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: and it's it's totally fine for for kids. Well yeah, 114 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: maybe because it's uh, it's it's sort of a lesson, right, 115 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: like don't go too high in your swing, yeah, or 116 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: inside out, and um, it's a neat way maybe to 117 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: work out our fears. But what I want to know is, 118 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: could you actually turn yourself inside out and live to 119 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: tell it? Um? I think I figured out pretty early, 120 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: and I think most of our listeners will't. We'll realize 121 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: that you can't really because the human body is just 122 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: a little too complicated and a little too rugged, you know, 123 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: like like basically like for it to happen, you have 124 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: to be like a sock puppet, you know, where you know, 125 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: you could just like when you pull a sock puppet 126 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: off or when you pull a sock off your foot 127 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: and it just goes completely inside out. Like we're just 128 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: you know, the human anatomy isn't geared to that to 129 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: living with our organs on the other side, right, and 130 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: any like any you know force that would it would 131 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: even like apply that kind of pressure on the human body. 132 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: I mean it would it would you know, you would 133 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: have like total body fragmentation before you had anything of 134 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: that nature happened. We're both too fragile and not rugged 135 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: enough to undergo that kind of transformation. Interesting paradox. Yeah, okay, 136 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: But just because the human body can't turn completely inside out, 137 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: as we all should know, that doesn't mean that this process, 138 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: which is called aversion, uh doesn't exist all over the 139 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: place in the natural world. UM. So you know that's 140 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: what we're gonna talk about today. Just run through some 141 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: of the examples of aversion in animals, um and and 142 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: to eliminated extent with humans and uh, and just how 143 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: amazing and gross it can be. And it's it's it's 144 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: some good grotesque stuff. What's the so what do you 145 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: what one stands out to you? Just right off the 146 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: bat in terms of a very simple process of aversion. Well, 147 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: in human anatomy, you can have, um, the examples of 148 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: like like, there's bladder aversion that can happen. And we're 149 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: not gonna got a whole lot of detail on this 150 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: because it's you know, it's kind of gross. It sounds convenient, 151 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: though I have to say, yeah, it's It's different from 152 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: bladder evacuation, um, which is rather generally a rather pleasant 153 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: experience as long as you know it's not in your 154 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: pants on a roller coaster or something. But but no, 155 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: this is a situation where the bladder, being an internal organ, 156 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: ends up on the outside through a you know, generally 157 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: a naturally occurring orifice. But you can you can also 158 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: have a version occur with injuries where something will get 159 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: kind of glooped out to the outside, right um and um. 160 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: And so yeah, it tends to be like an injury 161 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,119 Speaker 1: or internal trauma type situation. Uh, you know, it becomes 162 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: prolapsed to where it's it's on the outside now and 163 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: it needs to be pushed back in or you know, 164 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: in some way repaired. But but you have a lot 165 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: of animals where a version is just part of like 166 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: their daily routine, just how they go about eating or 167 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: digesting things or defending themselves. So um of those like 168 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: the the c Star is a classic example of that. 169 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: And if anybody out there watched the Discovery UH and 170 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: Slash BBC documentary series Life this year, Uh, they had 171 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: a whole segment where it's c Stars feeding on this 172 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: corpse underwater. Their cadaver were not cadaver, just a dead 173 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: seal um. But they spit their stomachs out. They avert 174 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: their stomachs under the outside of their bodies to work 175 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: at the digesting. So it just kind of sucks up 176 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: everything and pulls it back in. Yeah, exactly, which again 177 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: that's convenient. You see yourself at a buffet doing that. 178 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: Maybe not you, but yeah, I would. You're not going 179 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: to go to a buffet and then this this same 180 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 1: it's just you don't you don't get your your money's 181 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: worth out of it, and like you just really pick 182 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: out You're completely right unless you just completely avert your 183 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: your your your stomach you know. Oh and the documentary 184 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: series Life also shows these nimmertine worms feeding and they 185 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: actually use they actually have what's called any versible probiscus 186 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: and this is just their they're feeding mechanism is completely averted, 187 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: and then they just kind of like pump it out 188 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: with these muscles and it's like a snout sort of 189 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: going Yeah, it's like a long snout, but it's basically 190 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 1: it's about the length of their body, but it's adverted, 191 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: so it's kind of like completely cool. Yeah, it's just 192 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: like completely pulled inside and then they just it's they're 193 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: kind of like a party favor, you know, where you 194 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: like blow on it, rhythm kind of like extends, it's 195 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: like that, and then it snaps back, yeah, and then 196 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: they pull it back in. And so that's I think 197 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: that's our good examples of getting your food from inversion. 198 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: I think uh sharks and raised they are sort of 199 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: doing the opposite, right, like dumping. Yeah, they have this 200 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 1: thing called gastric aversion, and it's kind of like if 201 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: you're you know you weren't like if you're wearing blue 202 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: jeans and you turn the pocket out to get rid 203 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: of lent and find some loose change. They do the 204 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: same thing with their stomachs out of their mouth, um, 205 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: and you can find videos of it online. It's like 206 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: a real it's like a really quick function, you know, 207 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: because you know your shark, you're you live in a 208 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: dangerous situation. You don't just want to, you know, be 209 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: swimming around owned all day with your stomach hanging out 210 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: your mouth. So they just go it's kind of like 211 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: this quick coolaw and then then it's you know, it's 212 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: out shakes, free some you know, debris, and then it's 213 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: right back in. So it's like ancient Rome for the 214 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: animal kingdom and that there, it's like the vomitorium, except 215 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: that there's no loot playing in the background to cover 216 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: up the noise. Yeah, but it's exactly like like I 217 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 1: think the way I was thinking of it's like with cats. 218 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: Like we both know that cats love to puke, you know, 219 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:25,599 Speaker 1: it's where I don't know if they love it, but 220 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 1: they do it without it's no big deal. It's just 221 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: a part of their lives. Sometimes you got a puke 222 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: and they do it. So with sharks and rays, puking 223 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: isn't isn't the option, it's gastric aversion. So it's just 224 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: it's no big deal for them, right, and so that 225 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 1: way they can scoop up even more food rights that right, Okay, 226 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: And another really cool animal is the vampire squid. Oh yes, yeah, 227 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: tell us about that, because that little creature for large creature, 228 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: not quite sure how large it is, it's pretty fascinating. Yeah, 229 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna attempt to make a shot at its 230 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: Latin name because it's pretty awesome. Um Vampora toothist infernales. 231 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: It's like the the infernal vampire or something uma the 232 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 1: dark seas. It lives about a half mile deep in 233 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: the ocean, and it has these um, this like webbed 234 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: array of eight inch arms, so you know, it has 235 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: like the the squid arms like your you know, cephalopod 236 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: arms like you typically see, except they're all webb together, 237 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: and it looks like a cape like a vampire's cloak. 238 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: Perhaps it's very like steam punky looking, I think, yeah, 239 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: you can. I can easily imagine like wearing a little 240 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: like top hat and having a you know. But but 241 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: he will do this thing where he goes into a 242 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: threat response stance that is sometimes called pumpkin or pineapple posture, 243 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: which kind of I mean that doesn't sound you know, 244 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 1: these cools vampire and in infernal you know. But but 245 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,599 Speaker 1: he'll basically take this um, you know, his array of 246 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: arms these web this web array of arms and and 247 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: like pull it back over the rest of his body. 248 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: So it's kind of like if you were to take 249 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: your lower lip and your upper lip and you were 250 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: able to like stretch your lips back all the way 251 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: over your body until you were just like, you know, 252 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: pink glistening meat. That's kind of what they do. And 253 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: so that's so a predator might go, WHOA, that wasn't 254 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: what I thought it was, right, And also also they 255 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: have these little they're not really spikes, but they have 256 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: these lines of things on the inside. It looked like spikes. 257 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: So then when they go into pineapple stands, they look 258 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: a little spiky. So again, lad the impale are there? Yeah, yeah, 259 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: I think that that's fascinating that you can turn yourself, 260 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: you can essentially shape shift as an animal to say 261 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: to a predator, you know, hey, watch out, or I 262 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: am not what you thought I was. And and one 263 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: of the things that I'm thinking about is the c cucumber. 264 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: Oh this is a good one, yeah, which is much 265 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,599 Speaker 1: exalted in Japanese culture, and the c cucumber to me, 266 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: cuc where I can see where they got the name, 267 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: but it really looks more like a sea sausage. Yeah, 268 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: it's it's like you look at it and you can't 269 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: really tell that it's a little I don't know, it's 270 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 1: it's not the most vibrant of living things, you know, 271 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: it's just kind of looks kind of gross and still. Yeah, 272 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: And and it comes into a ton of varieties like that. 273 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: Some of them look like they've been oxidized, and some 274 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: of them, um look like very psychedelic with warts on them, 275 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: not warts. And they're anywhere from like under one inch 276 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: to six and a half feet in length. So in 277 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: terms of um how they're represented out there, there's a 278 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: huge variety. And not all of them do what I'm 279 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: about to talk about, but some of them have a 280 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: really interesting defense mechanism. And if you don't mind me 281 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: being so bold, I'll just get right to the point. 282 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: They can take their internal organs and jettison them from 283 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: their anus. That's and this is of course a trick 284 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: best performed when you can read inter rate said organs right, 285 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: exactly right. You don't want to lose organs unless you 286 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: can get them back in about a week to four 287 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: weeks or something like that. But the reason why I 288 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: think that is so fascinating. Is that to me? Like, 289 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: that's the ultimate bow up movement that you might have 290 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: like in a bar fight. You know, if you if 291 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: you were able to expel your internal organs for your 292 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: anus and just splat them on your opponent. I mean 293 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: to me, that's pretty intimidating. Yeah, I would think. So. 294 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: I've run across other, you know, situations where an animal 295 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: have some for response like that, Like there's um they're 296 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: like there are different animals that like to go into 297 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: a defensive posture. They either like vomit blood or they 298 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: I think there's a frog that actually um like fractures 299 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: some of its bones and like it creates compound fractures. 300 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: Yeah you know, um yeah, but any of those techniques 301 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: if you were to pull that on Marta on the 302 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: local transit system, if you were threatened, I mean, I 303 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: don't think anybody would message oh no, yeah, everybody would 304 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: move out of the car for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Have 305 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: maybe like the one person that was still asleep, Yeah, 306 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: I'm fortunate for them. But this, this uh, what's also 307 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: called the sea slug the c cucumber, is just pretty 308 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: fascinating in the sense that really does embody all those 309 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: shape shifting elements to it. It also can collapse itself, 310 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: which is really cool, the collagen fibers of it and 311 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: pretty much the liquefy itself and go through cracks. And 312 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: I mean again, that's an incredible shape shifting talent. I 313 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: love to have that. Yeah. So it's not just a 314 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: sea sausage. They're just sitting on the ocean floor. Actin 315 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: like a bottom dweller has a rich life. Yeah. And 316 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: if you think it's gross before you start messing with it, 317 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: just wait until it has to like run away. It's 318 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: gonna possibly shoot out its organs and and then turn 319 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: into a liquid. That's yeah, that's right, de materialized. Yeah, 320 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: and I was actually not I wasn't aware of before today, 321 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: just how how much of a role it apparently plays 322 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: in Japanese culture, Like I didn't know. I guess I 323 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: knew on some level that you could eat it because 324 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: I think I've seen it on menus Like, have you 325 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: ever had it anywhere? I have not. I think I 326 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: have as well seen it on menus um and I'm 327 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: thinking of Sushia. It could be completely wrong, but that's 328 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: what I'm thinking about. And I guess it's a huge 329 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: delicacy in Japan. Yeah, I think, uh, I think, you know, 330 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: I I now, I do remember where I saw it. 331 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: There's like a they're these little hot pot restaurants. It's 332 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,719 Speaker 1: like a Chinese thing where you have this. It's kind 333 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: of like fon do, except you have a little pot 334 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: to cook your pile of vegetables and and one of 335 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: the meats that is available, I believe is cea cucumber. Wow. 336 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: I did not have it. A friend of mine had it, 337 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: and he I don't think he said he liked it, 338 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: but he I think he said it was interesting. And 339 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: it's uh also again referred to as sea slug. So 340 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: you've you've got sea slug fon do. Yeah, it just 341 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: doesn't it doesn't, you know, roll off the tongue is 342 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: sounding quite delicious. But that and I think it's called 343 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: sea slug because cucumber is not really translatable. Um from 344 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: Japanese East English, which I think is in the book. 345 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: What is it it called? Again, it's very it's just 346 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:15,719 Speaker 1: oh it's called namacomo. Yeah yeah. Yeah. Because we are 347 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: in researching this, we both ran across the same book. Um, 348 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: there's a it's called Risey Sea Slugs by Robin D. 349 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: Gil and h it is a book about sea slug haiku. 350 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 1: There are one thousand hi q about sea slugs. See 351 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: that's just I mean, I really had to look at 352 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: it against them, like this is a joke. This is 353 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: some joke entry on Amazon, like back in the day 354 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: when people would put fake movies on IMDb, Like this 355 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: is just somebody's making this up. But it's it's legit. 356 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: It's like they're that important in uh, you know, in 357 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: in understanding like Japanese culture. Yeah, they're that celebrated. And 358 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: what I like about is that the sections are defined 359 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: by its various traits I guess as as we humans 360 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: see it. And a couple of sections are um in 361 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: the order of scatological, uh, melancholy. Um. There are a 362 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: couple other ones in there, but you have to understand 363 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: that um. The book is not only just celebrating the 364 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 1: humble c cucumber, but it's also sort of talking about 365 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: of the culture itself and how it is expressing itself 366 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: through its love of the sea slug. Yeah, like there 367 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: was and this makes perfect sense now that I you know, 368 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: once I've I've read it. But there's a point in 369 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: the book where they're talking about comparisons between this act 370 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: of aversion that the c that the c cucumber performs 371 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:40,719 Speaker 1: with its guts, comparing that to the like the traditional um, 372 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: you know, samurai act of sefuku um and maybe saying 373 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: that wrong and then the westernized version of that is 374 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: what Harry carry um and you know, so there are 375 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: obvious similarities between you know, this this creature expelling its 376 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: organs to escape of you know, danger, comparing that to say, 377 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: a shame you know samurai if somebody you know, basically 378 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: visrating themselves with a knife in order to save face. Yeah, yeah, 379 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: so yes, that's the honor thing is a very interesting 380 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: to bring up and to relate that back. Do you 381 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: have one of the hiku a translation of the hiku? Yes, idea, 382 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: I hope, Well you have to read that so people 383 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: will get Well, this one is from seventy one, and 384 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: I feel like it's still very relatable now. And it 385 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: is from a writer whose name was Joe and I'm 386 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: pronouncing that right. And it is a few drinks and 387 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: I am a cea slug out of water. Oh that's 388 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: that's that's actually really pretty yeah. And also I feel like, uh, 389 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: in terms of of our predilection for maybe over extending 390 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: ourselves with libations. It's it's still rings true today. There 391 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: are times when after a few drinks, I feel that 392 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: I am out of water as well. Well, some of 393 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: the ones I found we're a little more grotesque. Um 394 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: like this is one here, life's hard, no doubt. Sea 395 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: slugs end up inside out. I love it. Oh and 396 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: then there's this one sea slugs their guts are made 397 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: to swim one days. It's a reminder. Yeah, and of 398 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: course these are translations, so we can't really experience the 399 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: true beauty of of you know, C cucumber aversion poetry. No, no, 400 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: but I would say that. I mean, the holidays are 401 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: coming up, so got a herrine biologist in your family? 402 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: I think that you just found their present. Yeah, I 403 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: think Amazon has one copy left, so jumped to it. Yea, 404 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: get on it. Yeah. So, I mean the thing about 405 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: the c cucumbers is that we see this as a phenomenon. 406 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: This inside out is something in nature. What about in 407 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: terms of injuries, something self inflicted or even in pop culture? Um, well, yeah, 408 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: it's one of those things where like the first thing 409 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: that incident comes to mind for me when I think 410 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: of something that could actually turn you inside out. Oh, which, 411 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: by the way, another instance of a child's children's story 412 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: featuring inside out things. How to Train Your Dragon, there's 413 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: mention of a dragon that turns people inside out, so 414 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: which it's a great movie, but it's like these like 415 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: that was just the other day, like after I had 416 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: researched the podcast some and then I saw that movie 417 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: and I'm like, whoa, this is all over the place. 418 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: People can't get enough of inside out things for children. 419 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: It's embedded in our subconscious. There's also Slim Good Buddy, 420 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,959 Speaker 1: who I'm kind of on the fence, whether that's inside 421 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: out this or just a dude in a suit we've 422 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: gouts on the front of it. You remember Slim Good No, no, 423 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,719 Speaker 1: I can't tell me about something. Oh god, he's um. 424 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: I believe he's Canadian. Could be wrong on that, but 425 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: he's a Slim Good Bodies like a TV personality, and 426 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 1: he was like generally you think of like the classic 427 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: Slim Good body where he's got like kind of like 428 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: he's got kind of like curly hair, and he was 429 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: this like spandex body suit with all of the organs 430 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: painted on the outside and he like talks to kids 431 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: about like the importance of like eating healthy and you know, 432 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: like the guy still travels around the day. Yeah, yes, 433 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: I know, yes, yeah yeah, And so that's basically his 434 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: whole stick is, you know, educating children about you know 435 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: the importance of health and you know that taking care 436 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: of your insides. Wow, there's gonna be one kid that 437 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: just freaked out, you know, and he's saw him come 438 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: to a school. It was like your organs running outside. Yeah, 439 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: And I think I've I've seen parodies before where like 440 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: people have done costumes where it's like Slim Bad Body, 441 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: where they like show like you know, organs that have 442 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: been like like the lungs are all blackened from smoking 443 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: and things like like a huge momentum. Yeah, but outside 444 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: of Slo good like Slim Good Body, again, I don't 445 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think he was actually inside out. I 446 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: think you just had a suit with cuts on it. 447 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 1: But but the the thing and instantly comes to mind 448 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: is like, you know, like rapid depressurization like in a 449 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: like in an airplane or you know, it's like it's 450 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: always happening in space movies, but it's it's rarely. Um 451 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: all that accurate. So I mean, are you talking more 452 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: like suction or for something sally force and then also 453 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: just like you know pressures, you know, the outside pressure 454 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: changing and then destabilizing pressures inside the body. Um. Like 455 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: there's a film called Outland that came back out in 456 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: the seventies. I believe it's like a Sean Connery western 457 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: in space, and it was one of these where people 458 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: would like float out into you know, into the void 459 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: without their helmet on and their head would explode, you know, 460 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: like a balloon. Uh. And I think I think that 461 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: happened in total recall as well, but you know, it's 462 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: like it's things wouldn't really happen like that. I believe 463 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: the Air Force conducted some some tests, um and you 464 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: can find them results of it online where they took 465 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: some salmon and uh and expose them to you know, 466 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,959 Speaker 1: rapid depressurreization, and they they did not turn inside out, 467 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: because that's just silly, but but they did there was 468 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: like some stomach aversion like through like holes. So so yeah, 469 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: it's it's the depression ization can cause some aversion, but 470 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: it's not the kind of thing would turn the inside out. Okay, 471 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: I'm also thinking to you about some of the horrible 472 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 1: urban myths that I've heard about before, and I'm thinking 473 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: about like, oh good, I'm not gonna say this. Yeah, 474 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: like airplane toilets section. I mean I think that you 475 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: can probably figure out yeah, that kind of stuff, um, 476 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: you know, without like going into an actual like you know, 477 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: case by case, you know, Snopes esque, and you know, 478 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: analysis of the stories. It's like even even that at 479 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: the most, you know, any kind of like um, you know, 480 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: pressure based injury, um is going to just I think 481 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: result in in like a pro lapse or a version 482 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,959 Speaker 1: of organs. But right, if they're not gonna get sucked out, 483 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna sit on a toilet, see, 484 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: I mean, the odds are that the section that you 485 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: would create wouldn't be nearly strong enough to even lend 486 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: itself to creating yeah, in evacuation of your bells, right, 487 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: so to speak. Again, Yeah, this is and this is 488 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: also a topic where we could we could go into 489 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: more detail about all this. But well, if you're really 490 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: that interested, there's some you know, you can do some 491 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: more research on line. But we're good in trouble if 492 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: we get into it too. Yeah, I think I feel 493 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: like we're we've entered into the zone. Yeah, yeah, but 494 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: one more, it's like again, going all the way around 495 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: on the swing set will not turn you inside out, No, 496 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: it will not. It may make you vomit, but you 497 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: will not turn inside out. It will scare any adults viewing, 498 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: and children could be more of it. Yeah, we're not abdicating. Well, 499 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: I think you do. You do get a certain so, 500 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: I mean I never I was never the type of 501 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 1: child to even attempt that. But like the kids who 502 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: would go really high in the swing set, like, that's 503 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: instant cred right, I mean that's oh yeah, yeah again. 504 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: I mean I guess that is the kid equivalent of 505 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: just ejecting your your internal organs and spotting them on 506 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: someone else's. That the metaphorical like, don't mess with me 507 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: on this playground, kid. Well, well, on that note, we 508 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: did you I do? Yeah, we did you? I do. 509 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: If if you have any interesting tidbits about things turning 510 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: inside out, either in your life or in fiction or 511 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: in the realm of science, we may have missed something 512 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: really awesome example from the biological world, let us know. 513 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: Oh and if you have your own high qu to 514 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 1: share with us, please we want to hear it. Yes, 515 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: but only if it's about thanks turning inside out, and 516 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: that could be anything. Thanks for listening. 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