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Speaker 2: Bears at the Saints, Seahawks of the Ravens, Buccaneers of

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Speaker 2: the Texans, and we got one game in the books

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Speaker 2: earlier today in Frankfurt, Germany, the Chiefs hang on to

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Speaker 2: beat the Dolphins by a score of twenty one two fourteen. Richie,

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Speaker 2: that game this morning was a very interesting game. I mean,

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Speaker 2: once again, we talk about a Dolphins team that a

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Speaker 2: lot of people are trying to believe in. Right, They've

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Speaker 2: beaten the Patriot's twice, they beat the Giants, they beat

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Speaker 2: the Panthers. Of course, they had that blowout win against

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Speaker 2: the Broncos and the Eke victory out in their open

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Speaker 2: against the Chargers, blowout loss of the Bills, blowout loss

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Speaker 2: to the Eagles, and then today they're down twenty one

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Speaker 2: to nothing in a halftime they came back. I think

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Speaker 2: the score was a little deceiving in the end. There

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Speaker 2: was a fumble return, strip sack and everything else. But

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Speaker 2: both these teams right now, as we talk about this

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Speaker 2: before we get to these other games, not quite where.

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Speaker 2: I think the hype is for both the Dolphins and

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs based on a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of what I saw already earlier this morning.

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Speaker 1: Well, well, think about all the dominant teams in the

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Speaker 1: NFL to start the season. We had a lot of

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Speaker 1: thoughts about what they would look like in the preseason,

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Speaker 1: the Bengals, the Dolphins, the Chiefs, the Philadelphia Eagles, the

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Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine Ers, the Buffalo Bills, and look

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Speaker 1: how they all have panned out this season, all on shake. Now.

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Speaker 1: Some you look at the record of the Chiefs or

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Speaker 1: the Eagles, you say, well, yeah, I mean they may

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Speaker 1: be shaky, but their record certainly isn't right. That's true,

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Speaker 1: but they don't look as dominant as they did last year.

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Speaker 1: None of those teams I just listed. So it's one

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Speaker 1: of those weird seasons where everybody looks like they could

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Speaker 1: be caught, and oftentimes in these games it's a coin flip,

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Speaker 1: like especially when you're seeing either you know, I could

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Speaker 1: if you told me I was gonna wake up this

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Speaker 1: morning and the Dolphins would have won, or the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: I would have told you, oh, yeah, that makes perfect sense.

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Speaker 1: I could make an argument for both of those. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: last year, the Chiefs were on a war path. Last year,

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Speaker 1: the Eagles were on a war path, and it sort

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Speaker 1: of felt like we were just painting arrows in the

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Speaker 1: grass heading to the Super Bowl for both of those teams,

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Speaker 1: and it's just not so this year.

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Speaker 2: Well, I look at the AFC right now, and I

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Speaker 2: know the Chiefs would that win and go to seven

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Speaker 2: and two. Currently, as far as the seedings are concerned,

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Speaker 2: Chiefs would be the one see Jags, two Ravens, three Dolphins,

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Speaker 2: But my two teams right now in the AFC that

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Speaker 2: on what I'm seeing right now are the Ravens and

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Speaker 2: the Bengals. I'm very anxious to see the Bengals obviously

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Speaker 2: going up against the Bills today, But the Bengals are

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Speaker 2: back on track with a much healthier Joe Burrow, and

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Speaker 2: the Ravens have well Lamar Jackson back, plus everything else

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Speaker 2: going for them. So right now, when I look at

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Speaker 1: Okay, I do have to say my top two teams

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Speaker 1: and that's in terms of power rankings, not in terms

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Speaker 1: Baltimore than the Dolphins, but I still think the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: and the Chiefs are the class of the AFC. However,

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Speaker 1: I will say this, I made the proclamation last week

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Speaker 3: I don't, but I don't think that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: I think that again, the Bills have been a You

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Speaker 2: the Bills have been exactly that. And the Bengals what

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Speaker 3: This is a team.

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Speaker 2: Of course, I'm a little biased, since I did you

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Speaker 2: go out in the limb and pick the Bengals to

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Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl before the season began. But I'm

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Speaker 2: beginning to see the Bengals that I expected to see

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Speaker 2: at the beginning, not really fully understanding that injury to

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrows. So look, if the Bengals lose at home

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Speaker 2: emphasizes what I already believe. By the way, a quick reminder,

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Speaker 2: four teams have a buy the Broncos, who are obviously

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Speaker 2: playing much better football, and then he got three of

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Speaker 2: the big teams. You know, Lions. Chris can rest today.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't have to worry about his Lions today. The

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Speaker 2: forty nine ers, who are on that losing skid and

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Speaker 2: this Jaguars team. I've been asked more rich about the

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Speaker 2: the Jaguars? And I say I buy into them. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the record is what it is. But if you're asking me,

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Speaker 1: Well. Here, here's the crazy thing about this season is

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Speaker 1: I can make an argument for probably two or three teams.

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Speaker 1: And the more you think about it, the harder it

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Speaker 1: a little bit of survival. Like the Bucks, they showed up,

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Speaker 1: they played hard football, you know what they do defensively,

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Speaker 1: You look at the Dolphins, same problem. Two is great

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Speaker 1: whole season? Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs they just don't

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Speaker 1: look like they're on the same page with their receivers. Yet.

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Speaker 1: You switch over to the NFL. The Philadelphia Eagles, they're

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Speaker 1: was two near misses against the Commanders. There have been

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Speaker 1: so many close games this season for the Eagles. The

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Speaker 1: you want to get behind Dan Campbell and what he's doing,

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Speaker 1: but it's the Detroit Lions. Like I could make an

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Speaker 1: make an argument against so many teams this year is

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Speaker 1: this is the most parody we've seen in the NFL

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Speaker 3: I agree with the one hundred percent on that.

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Speaker 2: By the way, it is Week nine, which is the

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Speaker 2: official halfway point of this NFL season, and as we

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Speaker 2: sit here and argue about teams, we really don't have

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Speaker 2: a clear cut favorite. I mean Eagles obviously hosting the

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Speaker 2: even the Eagles have been wildly inconsistent, have not looked

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Speaker 2: at least at the level we saw at the end

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Speaker 2: of last year when they could have come away with

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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl victory. Now one other thing, when we

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Speaker 2: still await our first score of the game, Wait, we

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Speaker 2: of Pro Football Talk absolutely lambassed Patriots football. He said

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Speaker 2: dead last in the AFC. They're the only two and

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Speaker 2: fallout of Josh McDaniels with the Raiders, and each side

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Speaker 2: of the fact that with the possible exception of Bill

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Speaker 2: O'Brien's brief run with the Texans. All other disciples of

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Speaker 2: Bill Belichick have failed in the NFL, and they concluded

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Speaker 2: this argument about the Patriot Way being dead with this

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Speaker 2: it doesn't work, and without Brady it never would have.

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Speaker 2: So this whole idea of the Belichick way and all

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Speaker 3: It's tried.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've now got this Jay Glazer report that

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Speaker 2: it was an absolute revolt from the Raiders players. They

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Speaker 2: Coaches, you know, Antonio appears stepped up and said, you know,

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Speaker 2: we gotta believe in the raid Away. By the way,

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Speaker 2: this is exactly what happened in my day with the

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Speaker 2: he's shown the highway and they put a Raider back

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Speaker 2: in charge, Art Shell, and two years later they're in

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Speaker 2: the AFC Championship Game. So I understand where Mark Davis

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Speaker 2: not someone that is going to adhere to the Belichick

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Speaker 2: way is the right way, the only way to do this.

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Speaker 2: And as we are further removed now from the Brady

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Speaker 2: era in New England, it's not pretty rich. I know

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Speaker 2: you're a big defender Bill Belichick. His record speaks for itself.

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Speaker 2: He's on the Mount Rushmore of NFL coaches based on

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Speaker 2: his record, because that's all I can judge a coach

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Speaker 2: on is wins and losses. He's won more Super Bowls

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Speaker 2: than any other coach. But this idea that his way

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Speaker 2: was the right way, dismissing the fact that Tom Brady

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Speaker 2: they had over two decades.

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Speaker 4: Well, we have our first touchdown of the day belongs

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Speaker 4: to beagents to Cole Khmet over the back catch WO

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Speaker 4: means the end zone bears of the first touchdown of

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Speaker 2: US Beijing trying to bounce back after a disappointing game.

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Speaker 2: But what I mean, you are a Patriot. You were

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Speaker 2: drafted by this organization, and now this organization with the

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Speaker 2: Patriots sitting at the bottom of the AFC. The dismissal

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Speaker 2: and now a guy like Mike Florio pretty respected guys,

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Speaker 2: saying the only reason the Patriot Way ever worked was

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Speaker 1: Well, let's face it, if you look at Joe Walsh,

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Speaker 1: he got to Green Bay, he got an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: be Aaron Rodgers understudy for three years and then finally

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Speaker 1: get his opportunity to play and guess what, He's gonna

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Speaker 1: have to operate in this system. And if he can't,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna go and find a different quarterback in the draft.

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Speaker 1: I can promise you that, all right. So this is

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Speaker 1: his dress rehearsal.

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Speaker 2: All right, So we got a lot of question marks,

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Speaker 2: a lot of interesting lineups this week Week nine around

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Speaker 2: the National Football League. Let's find out what is trending

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Speaker 2: right now as we walk a monsie into the mix,

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Speaker 2: throwing it out ready, I.

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Speaker 10: Am exactly because new Vikings quarterback Jaron Hall just took

447
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Speaker 10: a really bad hit near the goal line, and it

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Speaker 10: looks like Joshua Dobbs is warming up and whoa.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, like that's he just got there like.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday, did he correct? Yeah, well Dobbs. Dobs can run

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Speaker 2: a little bit for sure.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: So we're going to run. I don't know how to.

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Speaker 4: And if he's not open, just run, for the love

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Speaker 4: of God, remember to run.

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Speaker 11: Just run, stay alive, just run. Oh yeah.

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Speaker 10: So it looks like that's that's a situation currently going

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Speaker 10: on with the Vikings and the Falcons. That game is

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Speaker 10: tied at three apiece late in the first quarter. That's

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Speaker 10: what you were looking at.

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Speaker 11: That's what I was doing. I was literally listening. When

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Speaker 11: you cut to me, I was like, oh, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 11: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 10: Several games are still scoreless, like the Cardinals and the Browns,

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Speaker 10: along with the Rams and the Packers, both of those

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Speaker 10: late in the first as well. The Commanders on the

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Speaker 10: scoreboard first against the Patriots with a field goal late

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Speaker 10: in the first so they're up three zero the Bears.

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Speaker 11: That was a crazy catch by Cole Kment.

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Speaker 10: If you guys did not see it, it was so

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Speaker 10: good by Tyson Bagent. So they're beating the Saints seven zero.

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Speaker 10: But the Saints are at Chicago's nine yard line of

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Speaker 10: first in goal with a little over two minutes to

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Speaker 10: go in the first quarter. Seahawks Ravens still scoreless late

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Speaker 10: in the first and the Texans up on the Buccaneers.

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Speaker 10: It was a mister C. J. Stroud who found Nico

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Speaker 10: Collins in the end zone. So the Texans beating the

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Speaker 10: Buccaneers seven to three, but the Bucks again in the

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Speaker 10: red zone third.

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Speaker 11: And sixteen, not looking so good four minutes in the

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Speaker 11: first quarter. On that one.

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Speaker 10: Other NFL news, the Chargers have placed wide receiver Joshua

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Speaker 10: Palmer on injured reserve. Steelers wide receiver Deontae Johnson was

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Speaker 10: fined twenty five thousand dollars for basically blaming the officiating

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Speaker 10: during Week eight after.

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Speaker 11: They lost to the Jaguars.

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Speaker 10: He straight up said the Jaguars won because of the officiating.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Like if the comments were He's like, I don't

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Speaker 10: care they were.

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Speaker 3: They wanted them to war the officiating.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: So he was fined late twenty five thousand dollars. That's

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Speaker 11: a lot of money. That's a lot of doh. I

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Speaker 11: mean for me, i'd cry.

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Speaker 10: I think for most of us here would be crickly

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Speaker 10: and in Germany.

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Speaker 11: You know, I did you guys see that last play?

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Speaker 11: Was it a bad snap?

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Speaker 2: Dal where it was he was looking at? So tour

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Speaker 2: was lined up? They did just call a time out. Yes,

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Speaker 2: So they're about to snap the ball and they call

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Speaker 2: it time out. He was looking to his right to

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Speaker 2: get things set up. All was still not snap. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but he wasn't lying up directly behind the center.

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Speaker 3: He looked like he was.

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Speaker 11: A little bit off to the side. I agree with that.

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Speaker 2: The center snap sort of came back straight to his

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Speaker 2: right and it got away from it.

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Speaker 10: And it got away from him and they didn't even

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Speaker 10: have a chance. I mean, the Chiefs.

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Speaker 11: Didn't score in the second half, no like, but they

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Speaker 11: held on.

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Speaker 3: The Chiefs offense again scored two times.

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Speaker 11: Two times, correct, that's it.

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Speaker 10: They ended up holding on beating the Dolphins in Germany

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Speaker 10: twenty one to fourteen. So the Chiefs improved to seven

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Speaker 10: and two. The Dolphins are now six and three. Patrick

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Speaker 10: Mahomes completed twenty of thirty passes for one hundred and

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Speaker 10: eighty five yards to touchdowns Tuatogo by loa twenty one

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Speaker 10: of thirty four for one hundred and ninety three yards,

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Speaker 10: and that one touchdown.

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Speaker 11: Back to you guys, all right, Monzi, thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: U get ready for the next time.

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Speaker 11: Yes, y know, I'll be ready. I was paying at

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Speaker 11: touch it. I was like, Joshua Dogs, he's in. Yep,

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Speaker 11: he's in. Officially, I think he's in.

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Speaker 3: All this here.

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Speaker 2: Our heads are spinning because we're trying to keep track

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Speaker 2: Steve Hartman and Rich Ornberg are with you giving you

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Speaker 2: all the latest news. And the Buccaneers did score to

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Speaker 2: retake the lead ten to seven. Baker Mayfield off to

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Speaker 2: a good start in this game. He is six of

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Speaker 2: eight eighty six yards and a touchdown pass, so he

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Speaker 2: continues to play pretty well. By the way Rich, seven

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Speaker 2: games kicking off this morning here, not counting the earlier game.

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Speaker 2: Of the seven games that just kicked off, five of

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Speaker 2: the seven games are matchups where both teams are five

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Speaker 2: hundred or below right, So five of the seven games,

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Speaker 2: the teams are five hundred are below. Chris, you said

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Speaker 2: you got into a little scuttle but on Twitter slash

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Speaker 2: x is that when somebody was talking about how is

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Speaker 2: it that in Week nine were stuck with so many

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Speaker 2: dog games?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Again, I do want to preface this, and many people

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Speaker 4: will say, oh, Chris, you're lying about this, like this

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Speaker 4: happens all the time, But I don't. I really mean this.

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Speaker 4: I don't get in a lot of fights on Twitter.

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Speaker 4: I avoid them, like like the devil. And someone said

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Speaker 4: the NFL is putting out one of its worst ever

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Speaker 4: slates of football this weekend. That's crazy, and his argument

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Speaker 4: was that there's only four good games, and my argument

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Speaker 4: back is, yeah, but each of those four games are

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Speaker 4: in a separate slate. You have a good game in

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Speaker 4: each slate, and the second order of games, you've got

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Speaker 4: Texans Bucks, which is interesting. You've got it to see

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Speaker 4: if the Panthers are going to stack another win. This

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Speaker 4: Jets Chargers game could feed for Brandon State's job. And

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Speaker 4: there's always a game, a surprise game that's exciting. But

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Speaker 4: like I understand, there's a lot of losing record versus

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Speaker 4: losing record. I understand there's a lot of guys who

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Speaker 4: probably shouldn't be in the NFL playing quarterback, but this

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Speaker 4: is still a better slate than most weeks.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, now I back you up one Raven Seahawks

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Speaker 1: that has serious juice. I would argue, I don't know

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Speaker 1: about Colts Panthers, but I'm really interested in Cowboys, Eagles,

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Speaker 1: Bill's Bengals. We just saw Dolphins, Chiefs. We woke up

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Speaker 1: this morning to that a completely well we just.

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Speaker 3: Named the four games that he was talking about.

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Speaker 4: The rest of it is well, well, his second tier,

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Speaker 4: but it's not like I mean, I'm still very interested

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Speaker 4: in this Bear Saints game. It might not look great,

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Speaker 4: but like it's third TV content.

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Speaker 2: Does anybody playing fantasy football give a crap about matchups?

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Speaker 2: I mean seriously no, I mean over half of the

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Speaker 2: people that I mean follow the NFL religiously, where they're

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Speaker 2: following every game, are doing so not based on the

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Speaker 2: teams on the field that's funny things, or they're betting

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Speaker 2: on games.

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Speaker 4: The guy I got the argument with was a fantasy guy, though,

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Speaker 4: so I don't I don't know if this is just

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Speaker 4: fantasy guys.

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Speaker 2: Don't like bigotball. Maybe his quarterbacks are sitting on the side.

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Speaker 2: Ye yes, maybe.

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Speaker 1: Again that's another boo who because Yeah, I get it,

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Speaker 1: your fantasy football team got ruined because there were injuries

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Speaker 1: this week and a lot of quarterbacks are banged up

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Speaker 1: around bye weeks. I get that.

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Speaker 3: But we've got two of the best teams in the

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Speaker 3: league on buy right now too. But by the way,

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Speaker 3: to help that.

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Speaker 1: Both the Falcons and the Vikings are playing for are

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Speaker 1: playing for the playoff standings, you know you Look, I

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Speaker 1: mean there's several games here that have significant playoff implications.

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Speaker 1: Buccaneers Texans like you mentioned. I mean, you're talking about

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Speaker 1: two teams that have sights on their division. Again, a

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Speaker 1: lot of work to do in both categories. But Cee J.

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Speaker 1: Stroud and Baker Mayfield, I think both have been shots

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Speaker 1: in the arm for those franchises. Look, I'm an NFL fan,

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Speaker 1: and when I say that, I have zero allegiance to

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Speaker 1: any team in the NFL. I just love watching football

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Speaker 1: as a former player, So that's about as far as

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Speaker 1: it goes. If I have any fantasy or gambling plays,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'll be honest about that. But the reality is.

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Speaker 1: I've seen far worse weeks in terms of the interest

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Speaker 1: or that the angles or the action in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: This this is a pretty good week. I agree.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of afternoon slates where I just don't like.

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Speaker 4: By the way, I did just see report Jaron Hall

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Speaker 4: has been downgraded to out with a concussion.

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Speaker 2: All right, So that means that we're gonna see Joshua

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Speaker 2: Dobbs making his debut, even if he doesn't know a

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Speaker 2: single play in the Vikings playbook correct one.

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Speaker 1: Was Otherwise, it's going to be a tight end.

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Speaker 13: Who the emergency quarterback is for Minnesota? I do not

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Speaker 13: it is a running back cam Akers.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say fran Tarkington, but I don't know

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Speaker 2: if Frank can.

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Speaker 1: I would assume it would be Kevin o'connelly played pretty

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Speaker 1: good quarterback at San Diego.

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Speaker 13: Can we get Brett Farve out of retirement one more time?

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Speaker 1: But speaking of the Vikings legend Brett Farve, well.

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Speaker 2: He did lead him to an NFC championship game until

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Speaker 2: he threw an ill time interception. Uh Jordan Love and

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Speaker 2: the Packers are on the board seven to nothing. Later

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Speaker 2: on an Aaron Jores Jones run. Meanwhile, the Rams with

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Speaker 2: Brett Rippin at quarterback today, no Matthew Stafford ripping right now,

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Speaker 2: the Rams have negative one net yards passing as we're

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Speaker 2: into the second quarter of that game. So that again,

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Speaker 2: we got some I will say this, I mean we

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Speaker 2: got some quarterbacks that you would be hard pressed to

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Speaker 2: find or identify in a lineup.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, no, no, yeah. You put Brett Rippin,

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Speaker 1: Jaren Hall, and frankly Josh Dobbs in a lineup.

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Speaker 3: Is Clayton tune?

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Speaker 1: Clayton Tone you say, you say, pick Clayton out of

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Speaker 1: the lineup, You're gonna have an awful hard time.

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Speaker 4: Look, claytontuone feels like a name like that one woman

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Speaker 4: on TikTok, who's like that guy back there on the

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Speaker 4: plane is not real.

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Speaker 3: Well, when you.

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Speaker 2: Have Tyler Agel, it's one of the more recognizable games

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Speaker 2: starting at quarterback today.

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Speaker 1: That's not great.

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Speaker 3: That tells you a lot.

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Speaker 2: By the way, no score right now between the Seahawks

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Speaker 2: and the Ravens. Reckerwise, this is by far the best

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Speaker 2: game going on right now. You know, we talked a

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Speaker 2: lot about the Ravens. A Lamar Jackson is back. The

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Speaker 2: new offense seems to agree with him, although it looks

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Speaker 2: strangely like their old offense. You know, he's still running

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Speaker 2: the ball effectively, passing the ball efficiently.

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Speaker 3: But there are the Seahawks again. I was not a believer.

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Speaker 2: I thought a lot of things went the Seahawks way

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Speaker 2: last year to get to nine and eight, to get

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Speaker 2: into the postseason. Gino Smith like this dream year, but

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Speaker 2: the right back at it rich five and two and

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Speaker 2: leading the NFC West.

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Speaker 3: Now the forty nine ers are on a three game

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Speaker 3: losing streak.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's Pete Carroll, it's

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Speaker 1: Gino Smith. What did we talk about earlier With quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: and head coaches, You need a culture builder. You need

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Speaker 1: somebody who knows how to handle a roster, knows how

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Speaker 1: to shape out what positions need that you absolutely need

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Speaker 1: to address, and then you need to have a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Fortunately for Pete Carroll, gambling on sending Russell Wilson to

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Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos, which was a gamble, worked out to

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Speaker 1: his benefit because they had an accurate profile on what

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Speaker 1: Gino Smith could eventually be. Now, he was steeped in

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Speaker 1: a training camp battle with Drew Locke before last season

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Speaker 1: and all the success he enjoyed. But they gave the

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Speaker 1: ball to the right guy and he led the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: to a great season. So we're watching we're watching a

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Speaker 1: revival of two careers in my opinion, because it started

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Speaker 1: going downhill with Russell Wilson there toward the end of

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Speaker 1: his tenure with the Seahawks and Pete Carroll. Very similar

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Speaker 1: with Joe Flacco and John Harbaugh. And then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, here comes Lamar Jackson and there's wind beneath

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Speaker 1: his wings again, and you know, John Harbaugh got the

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Speaker 1: pressure off him. There were hot seat conversations in Seattle

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Speaker 1: about Pete Carroll and then all of a sudden, Gino

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Speaker 1: Smith here we go, you know, because it very much

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Speaker 1: felt like an adversarial relationship before Russell left Seattle between

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Speaker 1: he and Pete Carroll, and there's none of that with

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Speaker 1: Gino Smith. And they're having another successful start.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: So the Ravens right now just got into the end

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Speaker 2: zone touchdown Edwards on the short run, so they take

699
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Speaker 2: an early six to nothing lead, penning the extra point. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: Sam Hawe is carving up the Patriots ten nothing commanders

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Speaker 2: in New England. Remember New England is one in three

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Speaker 2: at home this year. Mac Jones hasn't done much of anything.

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Speaker 2: So a Patriot team that sits alone a bottom of

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Speaker 2: the AFC standings at two and six, off to a

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Speaker 2: rough start today. All right again, we got a lot

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Speaker 2: of things to talk about today, a lot of games

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Speaker 2: going on. Keep it right here, much more coming up.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

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Speaker 5: Lamar from under center, Gosh Edwards alone to the backfield

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Speaker 5: to give us the bus straight up the midtal he's

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Speaker 5: got a hole.

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Speaker 11: He flipped it.

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Speaker 1: Touch God Raven.

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Speaker 5: And the bus rolls into the end zone for a

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Speaker 5: fourth time in the last two weeks.

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Speaker 2: That's ninety eight Rock Ravens Radio Network. Gus Edwards with

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Speaker 2: the score. Ravens with the early seven to nothing lead

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Speaker 2: over the Seahawks.

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Speaker 3: Once again. This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

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Speaker 2: Steve Hartman and Rich Ornberger with you apply from the

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Speaker 2: tire rack dot Com Studios. Quick rundown of the SCORBA

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Speaker 2: right now. Falcons just got a two run home run

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Speaker 2: akaas safety to take a five to three lead over

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Speaker 2: the Vikings. Browns three nothing over the Cardinals, Packers, seven

725
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Speaker 2: to nothing over the Rams, Commander's lead at New England

726
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Speaker 2: ten zip. Bears and Saints are tied at seven. Ravens,

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Speaker 2: as we mentioned, lead the Seahawks seven nothing, Buccaneers ten

728
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Speaker 2: to seven on the road against the Texans second quarter action.

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Speaker 2: All these games and with so many no name quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: in some of these games, predictably, offenses are struggling so far.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt that. When you have a lot

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Speaker 1: of new coordinators around the National Football League and now

733
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Speaker 1: this week Week nine, a lot of new quarterbacks starting

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Speaker 1: for teams that either a they weren't playing for to

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Speaker 1: start the season or be weren't starting for to start

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Speaker 1: this season, you're gonna see a little bit of an

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Speaker 1: offensive suppression. And I believe we've seen that for those

738
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Speaker 1: reasons this year. We talked about this last weekend also, Steve,

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Speaker 1: you know, think about how many players are working with

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Speaker 1: a new coordinator. As a quarterback, Lamar Jackson working with

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Speaker 1: a new coordinator, Justin Herbert working with a new coordinator,

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Speaker 1: coordinator Matt Nagi comes back to Kansas City. So Patrick

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Speaker 1: Mahomes working with a new coordinator, Mac Jones. He's working

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Speaker 1: with Billy O'Brien. That's his third offensive coordinator in as

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Speaker 1: many years. So there's a lot of starting quarterbacks who

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Speaker 1: started out the season with different coordinators or have had

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Speaker 1: a coordinator changed. Dak Prescott, he went from Kellen Moore

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Speaker 1: to Mike McCarthy. Now who's the lead play caller. It's

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Speaker 1: a ton and I think a lot of these quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: are having a hard time adjusting to the new voice

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Speaker 1: in the headset.

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Speaker 2: The Cleveland Browns, if the season ended today, would be

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs, which is pretty amazing considering how little

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Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson has played. Now he's back today, he'd only

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Speaker 2: been a brief action for what was one pass before

756
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Speaker 2: he went down with the concussion. That wasn't a concussion,

757
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 2: of course, he's had that shoulder problem.

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Speaker 3: So far, so good.

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Speaker 2: Seven to ten and two yards, no touchdowns, no picks.

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Speaker 2: Browns have an early three to nothing lead against the Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: But that's a sneaky team the Browns. Their defense is outstanding,

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Speaker 2: they can run the ball, and if Deshaun Watson can

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Speaker 2: stay healthy and revert anywhere near the form he was

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Speaker 2: with the Texans, this is a team that could sneak

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Speaker 2: into the postseason.

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Speaker 1: Oh, they wouldn't even be that sneaky. If you look

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Speaker 1: around the AFC and we get through some of the

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Speaker 1: top teams, a lot of the name games, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Browns are in that second tier of team and

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Speaker 1: close to the top of that second tier. And it

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Speaker 1: really does have a lot to do with that defense.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they have some game wreckers on that side

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Speaker 1: of the ball. It's led. It's a group led by

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Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, who should be in the conversation every year

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Speaker 1: for Defensive Player of the Year. He's sensational. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: what you just said about Deshaun Watson. This is a

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Speaker 1: team that committed two hundred and thirty million dollars guaranteed

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Speaker 1: to the quarterback position and they've gotten very little to

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Speaker 1: show from it. He was rusty last year. He had

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Speaker 1: all the excuses in the world because he's coming off

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Speaker 1: of a long suspension. He didn't look good, you know, Frankly,

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Speaker 1: I didn't look like Deshaun Watson, not Houston, Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 1: when he was bringing those Texans teams to the playoffs

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Speaker 1: with very little help, much better offense around him. Here

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland, you can argue a more stable franchise right

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Speaker 1: now compared to what he left in Houston with Billy O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, there's no excuse to anymore Deshaun Watson. He

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Speaker 1: needs to start earning that.

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Speaker 2: Salary, all right, stop the presses right now has scored

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Speaker 2: a touchdown. Yeah that's right, the New England Patriots. Mac

791
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Speaker 2: Jones to Hunter Henry touchdown. Patriots as they cut that

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Speaker 2: Commanders lead to ten to seven. And since we've never

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Speaker 2: seen Belichick in this situation before, where the team is

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Speaker 2: this bad, this deep into the season, every loss is

795
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Speaker 2: only gonna compound that. So at some point he got

796
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Speaker 2: to stop the bleeding. You're taking on a Commander's team

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Speaker 2: that's three and five, not exactly one of the elite

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Speaker 2: teams in the league.

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Speaker 3: And at home.

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Speaker 2: Remember the days when the Patriots never lost games at home? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: oh that's right, when Tom Brady never lost games at home.

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Speaker 2: They got to win this game, Rich, I mean, they

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Speaker 2: got to at some point stop the bleeding. I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying the Patriots ahead a tenny postseason run, but you

805
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Speaker 2: just can't con tinue to lose games at home, especially

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Speaker 2: when you're playing against teams you should beat note out

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Speaker 2: of ten times at home, like the Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 1: Well, well, let me make an argument that they could

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Speaker 1: potentially be a playoff team this year. And I mean

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Speaker 1: this is going to sound like nails on a chalkboard

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Speaker 1: to hang you a hang, hang on. They beat the Commanders,

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Speaker 1: they beat the Colts, and they go on the road

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Speaker 1: to face the Chargers. That's a winnable football game, especially

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Speaker 1: the way the Chargers have looked this season. You can't

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Speaker 1: tell me that in this game, in next week's game

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Speaker 1: against the Colts and against the Chargers, they don't have

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Speaker 1: a puncher's chance.

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Speaker 2: And if that's the case, you're basing this on Patriots passed?

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Speaker 2: How about Patriots present?

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Speaker 1: They do?

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Speaker 2: Defense hasn't showed up all year. Well, they've had some

822
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Speaker 2: bad games.

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Speaker 1: They they've had some good games. I'm just saying, don't

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Speaker 1: count out. Really, B're not blaming you.

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Speaker 2: Look they they plucked you off that Penn State roster

826
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Speaker 2: and gave you an opportunity to play in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: You should be loyal to the Patriots. And no, they're

828
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Speaker 3: not going to be a playoff team.

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Speaker 2: All right, much more coming up, Stay with us. This

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Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

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Speaker 9: Deshaun Watson focuses on the center post. It gets the

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Speaker 9: snap back to pass looking floats at and it's deflected

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Speaker 9: in the air, Lambs in their hands, a Cooper in

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Speaker 9: the end zone for a touchdown. Somebody for Arizona deflected

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Speaker 9: it at the line and it ballooned into the end

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Speaker 9: zone and into the hands of a Mari Cooper for

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Speaker 9: a Browns touchdown.

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Speaker 3: That's the Browns Radio Network.

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Speaker 2: Browns take a ten to nothing lead over the Cardinals

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Speaker 2: six minutes to go in the first half.

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Speaker 3: In that game, you're listening in Fox Sports.

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Speaker 2: should be. Let's get a little preview right now of

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Speaker 2: the game coming up between the Giants and the Raiders.

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Speaker 5: Now it's time for the nfl u FOS focus.

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Speaker 2: It is right now one of our favorite Fox guys,

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Speaker 2: the great Mark Sanchez, joining us here on this fabulous

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Speaker 2: Sunday market. It's always great to catch up with you,

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00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 2: and it's certainly an interesting week to be there for

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Speaker 2: the Giants and the Raiders. After Josh McDaniels, the GM

855
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Speaker 2: everyone blown out by Mark Davis as the organization deemed

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Speaker 2: they were going in the wrong direction. What are you

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Speaker 2: hearing about what happened this week to McDaniels and the

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Speaker 2: rest that were sent packing.

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Speaker 14: Well, first of all, mister Hartman, mister Ornberger, I'm fired

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Speaker 14: up to be on with you guys.

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Speaker 1: Thank you number two, Yes, number two.

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Speaker 14: Let's talk a little turkey here. I mean, it's been

863
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Speaker 14: an interesting week for this Raiders team, and you're seeing

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Speaker 14: all the articles come out as I kind of assumed

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Speaker 14: what happened. Everybody's getting their narratives out there as best

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Speaker 14: they can to you know, salvage reputations and try and

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Speaker 14: things positively, whatever it is. And the bottom line is

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Speaker 14: something wasn't right, and it sounds like they had a

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Speaker 14: you know, kind of a come to Jesus meeting as

870
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 14: a team, and it got well with some people, didn't

871
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 14: sit well with other people, and the ownership was kind

872
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 14: of forced to make a decision and felt like they

873
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 14: were forced to make a decision. So that's the kind

874
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 14: of way it shakes out. But the bottom line is,

875
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 14: just like any stories during the week, whether it's you know,

876
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 14: guys going down with injuries. You know, these these things

877
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 14: happen right during a season. This is obviously a big one.

878
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 14: But now it's okay, the ultimate meritocracy in this league,

879
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 14: What have you done for me lately? Are you going

880
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 14: to win? Regardless of who's the coach, And that's not minimizing,

881
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 14: you know, anybody's legacy or anybody's opportunity, whether it's McDaniels

882
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 14: or Antonio Pierce. It's just about, okay, results and it's

883
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 14: a result based league. So now what are they going

884
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 14: to come out with this surge of energy? My guess

885
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 14: is yes, because there's you know, this this wave of

886
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 14: emotions that goes on and some sort of positive energy.

887
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 14: But how long does that last and how does that

888
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 14: translate to what it comes down to every single week,

889
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 14: and that's stone cold, cold blooded execution, namely on third

890
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 14: down and in the red zone. Can they figure this out?

891
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 14: Can they get the ball to Devonte Adams? Can they

892
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 14: take pressure off this rookie quarterback Aidan O'Connell and get

893
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 14: Josh Jacobs going. I don't know what it's going to take,

894
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 14: but that was the best rushing attack in the league,

895
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 14: just about every single person's back and it's not the

896
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 14: same result. So what's the issue here. They got to

897
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 14: get that figured out if they want to be competitive

898
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 14: in this game. And you know the Giants are hungry

899
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 14: for a win too, they need it.

900
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: We have a lot of new quarterbacks around the league

901
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: getting their first start or up of their first starts

902
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: this week in the NFL. Mark if you can rewind

903
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: back to your rookie year getting your first starts in

904
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: the league and what that looks like for a player

905
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 1: at that position, and we know how important that position is.

906
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: What's it like?

907
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 14: Oh buddy, it's once again talk about a wave of

908
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 14: a moment and trying to just eliminate a lot of

909
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 14: the noise and keep yourself in a bubble and just

910
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 14: focus on what's important. And some of that stuff is

911
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 14: off the field stuff like when you get announced a

912
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 14: starter earlier in the week, You guys have no idea

913
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 14: how quickly your phone starts ringing and how quickly people

914
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 14: want tickets. And you find out you had cousins and

915
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 14: brothers and uncles that you never knew about. You know

916
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 14: what I mean, They've got number one. You better find

917
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 14: a ticket broker, like somebody in your family to just

918
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 14: delegate that responsibilities to. You could just stay in the

919
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 14: building and focus on what's important. You love to have

920
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 14: those people there, but it's like, hey man, give me,

921
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 14: give me some space here. I'll meet you in the

922
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 14: tunnel after the game and hopefully we win, you know.

923
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 14: So that's one thing that I remember, you know, vividly.

924
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 14: And then there's always something like either pregame, you see

925
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 14: somebody a coach, a friend, you know, a relative, or

926
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 14: somebody I happen to walk on the field with. With

927
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 14: the New York Jets were on the road at Houston

928
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 14: my very first game, and Joe Namaths is staying the

929
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 14: right outside our tunnel and I see him before our

930
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 14: game and I'm like, holy smokes, you know, like okay,

931
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 14: here we go, and he wants to talk for a

932
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 14: little bit, and hey man, have fun gohos playing it,

933
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 14: you know. So I'm so jazzed up about talking to him.

934
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 14: I didn't even take my ankles for the game. I

935
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 14: just forgot. I just didn't even think about it, went

936
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 14: out there, no ankle tape and just played the game.

937
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 14: And after the game I went to go get ankle cutters,

938
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 14: like the the razorblade thing, the tool to cut the

939
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 14: tape off your feet, and I pull off my socks.

940
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 14: I was like, oh my god, I didn't even take

941
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 14: my ankle. I don't even remember. So, I mean there's

942
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 14: stuff like that that is just silly, but I vividly remember.

943
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 14: And so the fights. To say, there's a million things

944
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 14: going and the most important thing is that game. But

945
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 14: naturally these distractions take some of your attention. So it's

946
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 14: how quickly can you focus in? And then more importantly,

947
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 14: how quickly can you get into the flow of the game,

948
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 14: Like get your completion, get hit maybe once or twice,

949
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 14: like get knocked down, not hard, but okay, boom, I'm

950
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 14: in the flow of the game. What's our situation? Cause

951
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 14: this game is just broken up into a million different

952
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 14: situations and scenarios, And how well can you master those

953
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 14: and how well can your team and your coordinator avoid

954
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 14: making you make all those decisions? You know what I mean?

955
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 14: A screen on third and long is better than calling

956
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 14: a dropback, maybe on a guy's first third and long

957
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 14: of his career, you know what I mean, Just get

958
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 14: him an easy completion, whether you get the first down

959
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 14: or not. The chances of getting that first down are

960
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 14: pretty low anyway. On third and long. You know, when

961
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 14: it's a third in to Walmart parking lot, forget it,

962
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 14: Just hand it off, call a draw, Just make it

963
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 14: easy on the guy so you don't have to make

964
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 14: him overprocess and overload him. But it's a heck of

965
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 14: a experience for these guys, something they'll remember forever.

966
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: Well, let's not forget, of course. Mark Sanchez, in his

967
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 2: first two years in the NFL, led the Jets to

968
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 2: back to back AFC championship games, including four road playoff wins.

969
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 2: I like to remind the world of your resume.

970
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: Mark, you know I appreciate it.

971
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 2: Now let's talk about the Giants. I mean, yeah, the

972
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 2: Raiders have been bad. The Giants have been worse. They

973
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: made a commitment to Daniel Jones in the offseason, and

974
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 2: before his injury he played. He wasn't helping the cause,

975
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 2: let's put it that way. Now he's back. Everyone believed

976
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 2: that Brian Dable is like this magician. You know what

977
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: he did for Josh Allen and Buffalo seemingly a year ago,

978
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 2: he was doing the same thing with Daniel Jones.

979
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 3: At the very least he wasn't making a lot of mistakes.

980
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: And yeah, Daniel Jones gets the big contract and did

981
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: not play well before the injury. What should we expect

982
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 2: for Daniel Jones out that he's back under center or

983
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 2: in the shotgun for this Giants offense.

984
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 14: Well, I think what's most important is one of the

985
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 14: reasons they've had such shortcomings in these games has been turnovers,

986
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 14: and that's, you know, something Daniel Jones needs to tighten up,

987
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 14: whether it's tumbles or interceptions. They just can't afford to

988
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 14: overcome some of those mistakes right now. Some teams around

989
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 14: the league can rally and they have the talent and

990
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 14: the roster, and they're lucky enough and fortunate enough to

991
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 14: keep guys healthy, so they can overcome a lot of

992
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 14: those things. But they've been decimated by injuries. With the Giants,

993
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 14: that entire roster is like Condon and turnover almost every week.

994
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,720
Speaker 14: They're starting all these different offensive lineman combinations. They're missing

995
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 14: their two bookend tackles. You know, Darren Waller comes over

996
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 14: and has been in and out of the lineup, inconsistent

997
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 14: in games, Say Kwon Barkley in and out of the lineup,

998
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 14: so and Daniel Jones himself. So it's one of those

999
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 14: things where they just need opportunities to do this together,

1000
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 14: to build a little camaraderie, to get a little momentum

1001
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 14: all together and show that, hey man, we got our

1002
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 14: best players out here. We got our best eleven on

1003
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 14: the field. We're acquiring reps and experience together and hopefully

1004
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 14: they can salvage some of the season because the defense

1005
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 14: is starting to turn it on. Wink Martindale's got these

1006
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 14: guys rolling. We'll see what happens with the loss of

1007
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 14: Leonard Williams, right, they traded him to Seattle. So Ashaun

1008
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 14: Robbinson's going to have to step up. A guy you

1009
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 14: guys know from La with the Rams won a Super

1010
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 14: Bowl there was originally in Detroit. Like, that's going to

1011
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 14: be a big role for him and a big hole

1012
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 14: to fill. But see how he shows up. But this

1013
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 14: secondary is really rolling, and I mean, he can't say

1014
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 14: enough good things about Kavon Thibodeau. So he had a

1015
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 14: he had a heck of a game last week, disrupting

1016
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 14: the quarterback. You know, cons and proms in the backfield

1017
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 14: before these plays get started. They're going to need a

1018
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,720
Speaker 14: lot of that especially early, especially with the rookie quarterback.

1019
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 14: But these are the kind of games midseason that are

1020
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 14: kind of sinker swim right, like two roads diverged in

1021
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 14: a yellow wood and you got to go take the

1022
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 14: right road, you know what I'm saying, and turn your

1023
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 14: season around.

1024
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's a tall task, especially with how both

1025
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: of these seasons started. We're chatting with Mark Sanchez Fox

1026
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: Sports Radio ahead of his call of the game between

1027
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: the Raiders and the Giants. Want to stick with the

1028
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: Giants for a second, because I've been critical of their

1029
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: offensive line. Now you mentioned the injuries. Not a single

1030
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: member of the Giants offensive line on opening Day has

1031
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: played in every single game this season. It's been a

1032
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: revolving door and they've looked like turnstiles as a result.

1033
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: I'm critical of the offensive line. I think it's because

1034
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: I spent my days in my career protecting quarterbacks, and

1035
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: maybe I'm too sensitive to that now I'm still protecting quarterbacks.

1036
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: I still don't want to put all the blame on

1037
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, but when you watch the film and you

1038
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: see how Jones was playing prior to his injury, and

1039
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: you watch some of the sacks he took because he

1040
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: took north of thirty sacks before that neck injury send

1041
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: him to the bench. What did you see out there?

1042
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: How many of the sacks were him holding the ball

1043
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: too long, not reading blitz is properly, not understanding his

1044
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: protection properly.

1045
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 14: Well, I think some of that, as you mentioned, is

1046
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 14: communication upfront, and you know that just like I do.

1047
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 14: Those guys have to be in sync and they develop

1048
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 14: not just the terminology of the offense, but there's like

1049
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 14: code words that these offensive linemens start using, and you

1050
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 14: start developing your own language to block up certain stunts

1051
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 14: and shifts and movements and blitzes and dogs from defenses.

1052
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 14: And they're just not able to do that because there's

1053
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 14: so many different guy He's playing at different positions across

1054
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 14: the board. So one, that makes it tough. Two, you

1055
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 14: are one hundred percent right, Daniel Jones has to get

1056
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 14: rid of the ball. Bottom line is you're the guy

1057
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 14: holding the ball. Every time you hold that ball, you

1058
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 14: hold the hopes, dreams and aspirations of the entire higher organization.

1059
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 14: You can't take sacks like that. Now, there's times during

1060
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 14: a game when it's okay to take a sack, when

1061
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 14: you're on the plus ten yard line, you lose a

1062
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 14: couple of yards, take a sack, you got a field

1063
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 14: goal anyway, like on a third down, no problem, cool,

1064
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 14: I understand that. But a couple of those, he's got

1065
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 14: to get rid of the football sooner, and that means

1066
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 14: the receiver's got to look as well, especially on some

1067
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 14: of those blitz looks. There's a couple of times where

1068
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 14: Dana Jones wants to cut the ball loose and there's

1069
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 14: nobody looking back at him, so he doesn't want to

1070
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 14: throw a pick and he doesn't release the ball and

1071
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 14: just gets clobbered. So those kind of things, there's plenty

1072
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 14: of blame to go around. But the bottom line, just

1073
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 14: like anything, when you're a quarterback in this league, you

1074
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 14: know you're going to get the blame, you're going to

1075
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 14: get the praise, and sometimes it's not all your fault,

1076
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 14: whether it's good or bad.

1077
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 2: Well, it's a game where two teams are in desperate

1078
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 2: need of a win. Giants at the Raiders. Mark Sanchez

1079
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 2: will be there. Mark enjoy the game. We'll be watching.

1080
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 2: Thanks as always for joining us.

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Speaker 14: Absolutely, you guys are the best. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: That is Mark Sanchez there all right, coming up on

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Speaker 2: the other side, we're going to give you a full

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Speaker 2: update around the national football and at least one team

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Speaker 2: inspired by our own rich Ornberger.

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Speaker 3: Wow, it's Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

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Speaker 5: Takes the step, dropping back, stands in, throws a high

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Speaker 5: ball court hitting the in zone, takes the catch, cuts

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Speaker 5: down Patriot's.

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Speaker 9: Go throw, really good throw by Jones on a protocol

1091
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Speaker 9: to Hunter, have we done a right scene?

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Speaker 1: Don't play fake? You seem what I mean?

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00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 3: He just gets to set the feet, read it and

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00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 3: he's able to throw that off time to Henry.

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Speaker 2: That's the Patriots radio network, inspired by rich Arberger's faith

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Speaker 2: that they have a chance to get into the postseason.

1097
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Speaker 2: They have now taken a fourteen to ten lead over

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Speaker 2: the Commanders inside a minute ago in the first half

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Speaker 2: in that game. This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

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Speaker 2: We're live from the tai iraq dot Com studios. So

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00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 2: just like that, the Patriots overcoming early ten to nothing

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00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 2: deficit and have taken a fourteen to ten lead, Mac

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00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 2: Jones eight to fifteen, eighty two yards in a score

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00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 2: Ramandra Stevenson big sixty four yard run and again a

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Speaker 2: touchdown there. So the Pats apparently as we all know,

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Speaker 2: Belichick is not listening to his coaches with his headset

1107
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 2: on the sidelines. No, not when we're on the air.

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00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 2: He's listening to us. He wants to hear what Rich

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00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 2: has to say, and he has got that team inspired

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Speaker 2: right now to take the lead over the awesome power

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00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 2: of the Washing Commanders.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I think there's a lot of people who

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00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: look at a two win football team and rightfully so

1114
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: write them off. The Patriots are in dead last of

1115
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: the AFC right now, and so I get it. It's

1116
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: easy to write off a team that's in dead last

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00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: week and nine. But I'm not ready to not when

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00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: you're coached by Bill Belichick, not when you have a

1119
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: culture in place different, different, obviously different than it was

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00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: with Tom Brady, but in place where there's a certain

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00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: level of belief that I remember in New England, where

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00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: it didn't matter what the circumstances were, you had faith

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Speaker 1: that you could turn around a game, that you could

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Speaker 1: win a football game. And so the New England Patriots,

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00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:13,439
Speaker 1: I'll always give them a puncher's chance, like pregame right now.

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Speaker 1: Occasionally you'll watch a game you'll be like, oh wow,

1127
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: like the Cowboys, game like that got out of hand fast,

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Speaker 1: and the Patriots were underwater and they just couldn't do

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Speaker 1: anything right turning the football over. They played a very

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Speaker 1: unpatriot like game. But a game like this, even with

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00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: a disparity to start, I mean, we're just gonna hand

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00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: it to the Commanders, I don't think so. And are

1133
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: we just going to hand the season over and say, well,

1134
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: this is a lost season. I don't think so. This

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00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: is Bill Belichick, and the same way I feel about

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00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin is the same way I feel about Bill Belichick.

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00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: He's a great culture builder. It's tough to beat Bill Belichick,

1138
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: same way as this tough to beat Mike Tomlin and

1139
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: those Steelers. They'll find a way a lot of times.

1140
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Speaker 1: And I'm looking forward to seeing how they respond second

1141
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: half of the season as things begin to gel more.

1142
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 1: Remember Mac Jones is working with this third straight offensive

1143
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: coordinator in as many years. It's gonna take a little

1144
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: while for him and Billy O'Brien to get on the

1145
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: same page. They've dealt with some harrowing injuries defensively that

1146
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: they're still reeling from from key playmakers. They're gonna try

1147
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: to fix that. I'm not giving up on the Patriots.

1148
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: Not all hope is lost.

1149
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 2: Yet, all right, let me run down the scores right

1150
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 2: now again most of these games. Near the half, Falcons

1151
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 2: have an eleven to ten lead over the Vikings.

1152
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Speaker 3: Vikings just scored.

1153
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 2: Brown's halftime lead thirteen to afteen over the Cardinals. Packers

1154
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 2: with under a minute to go in the half lead

1155
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 2: the Rams seven to three. It is halftime now, Patriots

1156
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,760
Speaker 2: over the Commander's fourteen to ten. Bears and Saints tied

1157
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 2: at fourteen at halftime. Ravens inside a minute to go

1158
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 2: there have a fourteen to three lead against the Seahawks

1159
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 2: and two minute warning.

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Speaker 3: First half.

1161
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 2: Buccaneers on the road have a seventeen to ten lead

1162
00:56:55,080 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 2: over the Texans Vikings. Falcons. By the way, if you

1163
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 2: don't know, the Vikings are all over the place. Jaron Hall,

1164
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 2: the rookie out of BYU, was to get the start today.

1165
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 2: They did pick up, as you know, Joshua Dobbs from

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00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, hoping to buy a week before he

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00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 2: would have to see any action. He was forced into

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00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 2: the game when Jared Hall got hurt. And Dobbs has

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00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 2: played well. He's five h seven, he's forty nine yards passing,

1170
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Speaker 2: and better than that, he just threw a touchdown pass

1171
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Speaker 2: to Alexander Madison. So that's gotten the Vikings back in

1172
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 2: this game. Falcons lead up by score eleven to ten.

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00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 2: By the way, Dobbs, he looked good early on for

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Speaker 2: the Cardinals. I was in the Phoenix area last month

1175
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 2: and they were talking up Dobbs big and then after

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Speaker 2: that things went a little south. But at the very

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Speaker 2: least a Vikings team that's very much in the mix

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Speaker 2: for the playoffs. Dobbs is I think more than a

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Speaker 2: serviceable quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, listen, I think Dobbs can play a little bit.

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00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: I certainly feel similarly about Josh Dobbs as a about

1182
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: say Jimmy Garoppolo or a who else would I throw

1183
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: in this category? You know I would throw. I would

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00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: throw a well Beigent has a lot to learn still,

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00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: But I mean, for years the way I felt about

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00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: Tarrod Taylor or Gino Smith before Gino Smith became a

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Speaker 1: starter with the Seattle Seahawks. Like he's he's a very

1188
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: competent backup. He's not going to allow the wheels to

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00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: come completely off. Josh Dopps can play a little bit.

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Speaker 2: All right, So you mentioned, of course one of our guys,

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Speaker 2: Tyson beaigent halftime Bears and Saints are tied to fourteen,

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00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 2: and look at Beagen's numbers, ten to thirteen, one hundred

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Speaker 2: and forty nine yards, two touchdowns. He did throw the

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Speaker 2: one pick, but also six carries for sixty yards.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in this first half.

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Speaker 2: Derek carrs played well for the Saints fifteen and nineteen

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Speaker 2: hundred thirty seven yards and two touchdown passes in this game,

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00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 2: one to Chris Olave, the other to haysteom Hill. But

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Speaker 2: you know, getting back to Tyson Beagent, you know, when

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Speaker 2: Justin Fields does return, I don't know, are other teams

1201
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 2: maybe looking at Tyson Beigen on the Bears holding him

1202
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 2: as insurance because.

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Speaker 3: I know he'd struggled a little bit last week.

1204
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 2: But the fact that he has bounced back this week

1205
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 2: and played so well again talks about his demeanor and

1206
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 2: his belief in himself.

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Speaker 3: I'm high on Beijing. I like what I see.

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00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he does some good things. There's no question about it.

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00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: He does some good things. I don't know. Again, Josh

1210
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: Opps kind of got found out a little bit. Desmond

1211
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: Ritter had a similar path this season. You know, he

1212
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: started off hot, had a couple of nice games, and

1213
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: then really went into the tank all the way to

1214
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: the point where Arthur Smith in Atlanta had to bench

1215
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: him for Taylor Heineke, who's taken over the starting quarterback

1216
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: position there with the Falcons. So we'll see what happens.

1217
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think, like we discussed earlier, it starts

1218
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: with belief, and certainly with Dobbs, certainly with Beagent. You

1219
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: see quarterbacks who have a pretty good self confidence for

1220
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Speaker 1: guys who are young in their career or as inexperience

1221
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: as they both are.

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Speaker 3: All right, So the Cardinals down thirteen at the a halftime.

1223
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Speaker 3: So the Browns.

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01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 2: Clayton Tune, if you don't know, is at quarterback for

1225
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 2: Arizona this week, as Kyler Murray is still not ready

1226
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 2: to go, and as we mentioned, Dobbs no longer with

1227
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 2: the Cardinals. To his first half forgettable five of eight

1228
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 2: twenty two yards and a pick, they have nine net

1229
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 2: yards passing in this game. In fact, total yards in

1230
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 2: the first half, Arizona is thirty one and a half. Meanwhile,

1231
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson back and looking okay, still not very accurate,

1232
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,919
Speaker 2: eleven of twenty. That's fifty five percent passing one hundred

1233
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 2: and thirty six yards, a touchdown and no picks. But again,

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01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 2: a Cleveland win gets them to five and three and

1235
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 2: very much in the playoff chase.

1236
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Cleveland win would be huge for the Browns

1237
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: right now. And like you said, I think Deshaun Watson

1238
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: is going to have to play his way back into

1239
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: looking like the Shawn w Watson. I don't think we're there.

1240
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: I don't think we're even close. Deshaun Watson was a

1241
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 1: top five quarterback when he was playing at the top

1242
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,919
Speaker 1: of his game with the Houston Texans. He's nowhere near

1243
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: the top five right now. He's top twenty, you know

1244
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: what I mean. And you could argue his name precedes him.

1245
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: If this was Bagent playing this way, we would think

1246
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: very differently about it because we know what potential lies

1247
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 1: on the other side of maybe getting some more of

1248
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: the rust off of Deshaun Watson. Are getting a little

1249
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: bit healthier for Deshaun Watson because we've seen him do

1250
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 1: it at this level, but so far, the results aren't there.

1251
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 1: The Browns are waiting for that day where all of

1252
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: a sudden he puts it all back together and they go, oh,

1253
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: that's the reason why we guaranteed him two hundred and

1254
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: thirty million dollars. But so far has not happened yet,

1255
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: and the Browns defense has kept this team's head above water.

1256
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,440
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Speaker 2: we mentioned halftimes around the National Football League.

1261
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 3: Let's find out what is trending right now.

1262
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 2: So Matt's we haven't had a whole lot of offense today,

1263
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 2: not a lot.

1264
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 11: So my fantasy teams are are not doing great.

1265
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 3: No, I don't think anyway, I don't.

1266
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1267
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 2: There half the quarterbacks playing right now are not on

1268
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 2: any fantasy teams.

1269
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, and I decided to play Sam Howell instead of

1270
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 10: Baker Mayfield in a Baker Mayfield is showing me up,

1271
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 10: you know, He's like, this is what you get?

1272
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, up twelve, one hundred and nineteen yards in the score.

1273
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 11: Not too shabby.

1274
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 10: And then Sam Howell just had an interception in the

1275
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 10: end zone right before halftime.

1276
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 11: So no, it's not going well.

1277
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 10: But let's talk about Joshua Dobbs because you guys were

1278
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 10: just talking about him.

1279
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 11: Right before he threw that touchdown.

1280
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 10: He had to scramble to get the first down using

1281
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 10: his legs, gotten like eleven twelve yards. He is, Yeah,

1282
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 10: I like him, like I would take Joshua Dobbs over a.

1283
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 11: Lot of other quarterbacks. He's hanging in there. Five days ago,

1284
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 11: he in Minnesota. How he's doing this is beyond me.

1285
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 11: And they're in it.

1286
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 10: Vikings are losing to the Falcons. They're approaching halftime. It's

1287
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 10: eleven to ten, so they are in it. But like

1288
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 10: you said, most of these games are at halftime. Browns

1289
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 10: all over the Cardinals thirteen zero. That pass that Amari

1290
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 10: Cooper caught was off of someone's helmet.

1291
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 11: It wasn't like deflected by the hands.

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Speaker 10: That was just a bad throat by Deshaun Watson, and

1293
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 10: Amari Cooper got.

1294
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 11: Lucky and caught that in the end zone.

1295
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 10: The Rams hit a field goal, but the Packers are

1296
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 10: still up seven to three and they're literally.

1297
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 11: Headed into halftime right now.

1298
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 10: The Patriots up on the Commanders fourteen to ten.

1299
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 11: The Bears in the Saints this has been a fun one.

1300
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 10: Tyson Beagent has found Cole Comet twice in the end zone.

1301
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,439
Speaker 10: Derek Carr has found Chris Salava and Taysom Hill. That's

1302
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 10: a tie game at halftime fourteen fourteen the Ravens. It

1303
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 10: has been all Gus Edwards with two rushing touchdowns. They're

1304
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 10: currently beating the Seahawks seventeen to three, also literally about

1305
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 10: to be halftime, and the Buccaneers, yes, beating the Texans

1306
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 10: seventeen to ten.

1307
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 11: I got a little mb A news for you guys.

1308
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 10: James Harden will make his debut for my Clippers on

1309
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 10: Monday against the Knicks at Madison Square Garden. This is

1310
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 10: according to the Athletic and Sons All Star guard Devin Booker.

1311
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 10: He has missed four of Phoenix's first six games due

1312
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 10: to left foot ankle injuries.

1313
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 11: I don't know.

1314
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 10: He's gonna miss today's game again against the Pistons due

1315
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 10: to a strained right calf.

1316
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 11: So he's all messed up.

1317
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what's messed up is that in season tournament.

1318
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 2: I know, first of all, you have a tournament that

1319
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 2: began on Friday and now it doesn't go until next Friday.

1320
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 2: So you have regular games and you have tournament games

1321
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 2: where they doll up the courts.

1322
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 3: They're unwatchable on TV, by the way.

1323
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 2: What I mean, you can't even you can't keep your

1324
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 2: I mean, did you see the bulls of that.

1325
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 11: It looks like they're on fire. It looks like we

1326
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 11: were in hell.

1327
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 3: The people were literally saying.

1328
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 2: Even so, Lom, who is a diehard NBA fan, said,

1329
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 2: I can't watch these games on TV the way they

1330
01:04:59,360 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 2: do the courts.

1331
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 3: Since I said on my Twitter account.

1332
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 2: Ecot it is the worst idea in the history of sports,

1333
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 2: especially compounded by the fact that it's not like.

1334
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 3: A continuous tournament.

1335
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like a game and then you have

1336
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 2: regular games and go back to the tournament.

1337
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 10: I will tell you that it's the most confusing thing possible.

1338
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: Ever.

1339
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 10: I feel that instead of it being incentivized by money,

1340
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 10: it should have been incentivized by playoffs, like that, if

1341
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 10: you win this, you're guaranteed a playoff spot, instead of

1342
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 10: it being about money.

1343
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know what I mean.

1344
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 3: It's just awful.

1345
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 11: Yeah, and it makes no sense.

1346
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 2: I thought it was going to be like a continuous tournament,

1347
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 2: like for a weekend.

1348
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 11: It is like this day.

1349
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 2: Fridays, and then it's and we looked it up, it's

1350
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 2: next Friday, and then like to just say after that.

1351
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 1: And by the way, and by the way, the press

1352
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 1: releases and the information shared about this in season tournament

1353
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: couldn't have been any more confusing and less informative because

1354
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 1: the reality of it. Both and I know you both look,

1355
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: I know we watch hoops here. I had no idea

1356
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: it was starting at the starting nobody.

1357
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 2: You're like five games into the year and you're starting

1358
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 2: a tournament, but it's it's the month of November.

1359
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 3: We talked about this, Rich.

1360
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 2: I don't want to overkill this thing, but if the

1361
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 2: idea is you're trying to get eyeballs away from football,

1362
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 2: forget it, especially in the month of November.

1363
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 3: I mean November. It is part of the football season.

1364
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 2: So instead of all this garbage, how about delaying the

1365
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 2: start of the season for two months Instead of October June,

1366
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 2: how about December to August. Imagine if the NBA Playoffs

1367
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 2: are going on in the finals in August against what

1368
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 2: the dog days of the baseball season and the NFL

1369
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,959
Speaker 2: season hasn't started yet, willn't that be a much better riva?

1370
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 10: Too much sense, stop it, stop talking.

1371
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 3: What do you think you are?

1372
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 2: Adam Silver was still you've been on this in season

1373
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 2: tournament and it's not even that.

1374
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 3: All right, I don't want to waste any more time

1375
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 3: on that.

1376
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 2: I really don't, Hey, Rich, I do want to talk

1377
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 2: the about the upcoming game between the Cowboys and the Eagles.

1378
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 2: So every year I look at the Cowboys as a

1379
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 2: team that's due.

1380
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 3: It's not like they're awful.

1381
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 2: Every year they've had playoff teams, They've had playoff caliber quarterbacks,

1382
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 2: They've had, you know, teams that potentially could be in

1383
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl conversation. And yet forget winning a Super Bowl,

1384
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 2: not since the ninety five season. They haven't even been

1385
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 2: to an NFC championship game since that season. But the Cowboys,

1386
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 2: every time you think, oh oh, this could be the

1387
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 2: year they lay an egg, yep, And today is that day.

1388
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 2: You're on the road against the Eagles. This is one

1389
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 2: of the fiercest rivalries in all of the NFL. It

1390
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 2: gets downright ugly at times. Eagles obviously favored at home,

1391
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 2: but only by three points. What is your gut feeling

1392
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 2: do you think the Cowboys show up today, make it

1393
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 2: a game, even possibly come away with a w.

1394
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 1: All right, let me give you the reasons why the

1395
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 1: Cowboys can perform extremely well. They're gonna enter pretty confident

1396
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 1: After a pretty dominant performance. In Week eight, Dak Prescott

1397
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 1: arguably had his best game of the season in a

1398
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 1: win over the Rams. He threw for three hundred plus

1399
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 1: yards four touchdowns. Wide receiver CD Lamb has been targeted

1400
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 1: multiple times. I mean multiple multiple times since he compared

1401
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 1: himself to Jamar Chase on Monday Night Football. You remember

1402
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: after that game he said, yeah, I'm always open too. Well.

1403
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 1: He now has forty six catches for six hundred and

1404
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 1: thirty three yards and three touchdowns this season, and a

1405
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 1: lot of that work has been done recently. I also

1406
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 1: want to point the attention because we spend so much

1407
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 1: time talking about offense to the defense. Micah Parsons is

1408
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 1: a game wrecker, all right. He is all over quarterbacks.

1409
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 1: He already has fourteen QB hits this season, nine tackles

1410
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 1: for loss in six sacks. He is a game record

1411
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 1: in cornerback Deron Bland has four interceptions, three of which

1412
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 1: he's returned to the house. So the Cowboys can win

1413
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 1: this game. However, what you just said is really true.

1414
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 1: The Cowboys find a way to lose games they should win,

1415
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,640
Speaker 1: especially when you look at what Philadelphia has looked like

1416
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 1: in a lot of these games. If there's a team

1417
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 1: that has squeaked by more than the Philadelphia Eagles with

1418
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 1: a good record, name them, you can't. It's the Eagles.

1419
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: And I know no style points in the NFL, and

1420
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 1: I know there's no such thing as moral victories and losses.

1421
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: The only thing that matters is w's and l's, and

1422
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 1: the Eagles have a whole bunch of them, but they

1423
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 1: haven't looked all that great in a lot of those ws.

1424
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 1: So if there's a game where the Cowboys could capitalize,

1425
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 1: it's today. However, we've seen this so many times that

1426
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 1: you can't trust the Cowboys on the road in division.

1427
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 2: Let's talk to Bo Benson, our esteem producer and our

1428
01:09:55,840 --> 01:10:00,879
Speaker 2: resident Eagles fan. Are you nervous about this game any respect?

1429
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 13: I no, I'm not playing.

1430
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 3: Team.

1431
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 13: I picked the Cowboys to win the division and go

1432
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 13: to the Super Bowl, so I think that they are

1433
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 13: going to be more up for this game than the

1434
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 13: Eagles are.

1435
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 3: To be honest with you.

1436
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,799
Speaker 1: All right, let me jump in for bow here, because

1437
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 1: he lacks the enthusiasm I want him to have as

1438
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 1: an Eagles fan. How about this? How about this? Jellen

1439
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 1: Hurts has been his best season. No, not statistically, but

1440
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 1: he continues to find ways to win. He's leading one

1441
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 1: of the NFL's best offenses. By the way. Yeah, I

1442
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 1: understand the stats will tell you otherwise, but they have

1443
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 1: weapons everywhere Devonte Smith, AJ Brown. I mean, these are

1444
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 1: guys who can just change games in an instant. Anywhere

1445
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 1: the Eagles line up on the football field. I don't

1446
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 1: care if they're at their own one yard line or

1447
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: they're at your one yard line. They can score because

1448
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 1: they have two exceptional receivers AJ Brown. He's also come

1449
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 1: alive more alive lately. He's setting a new NFL record

1450
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 1: with six consecutive games of at least one hundred and

1451
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 1: twenty five yards receiving. He's had three touchdown receptions in

1452
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 1: his last two games, and he has five overall on

1453
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 1: the year. Brown he has a serious matchup issue for

1454
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 1: any team. But you look at the Cowboys defense without

1455
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs, who tore his ACL. He's been out since

1456
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 1: Week two. They haven't really recovered from that. So how

1457
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 1: do you fix that mismatch problem in the secondary. The

1458
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 1: answer is you probably can. And you know the Eagles

1459
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,759
Speaker 1: are going to be trying to feature and highlight AJ Brown,

1460
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 1: So the Eagles have a great chance of defending their

1461
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 1: home turf against the division rival two. Again, there are

1462
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 1: so many ways to discuss this game. You could lean

1463
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 1: heavy Cowboys and you'd be right. You could lean heavy

1464
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 1: Eagles and you would be right. I bet you. If

1465
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,719
Speaker 1: this was played on a neutral field, this game would

1466
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 1: be a pick them because they are so evenly matched

1467
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 1: heading into this well.

1468
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 2: I think for both these teams it comes down to

1469
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 2: the quarterback taking care of the football. I mean, we

1470
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 2: saw it a year ago with Dak Prescott leading the

1471
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 2: league in interceptions.

1472
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:04,480
Speaker 3: Already, Jalen Hurts.

1473
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 2: Has eight picks, and a lot of this happens when

1474
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 2: you have a quarterback, especially if you're a high profile quarterback.

1475
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 3: Getting paid a lot of money.

1476
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 2: You're in the spotlight and you start trying to do

1477
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,919
Speaker 2: things beyond what you should try to do. You're forcing

1478
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 2: a few things, and that to me, has been the

1479
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 2: only negative on.

1480
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts this year.

1481
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 2: I mean AJ Brown's having a huge year, you know,

1482
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 2: I mean he might be a two thousand yard receiver

1483
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 2: this year with the Eagles.

1484
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 3: But that's the one time.

1485
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 2: And by the way, remember a couple of years ago,

1486
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 2: the same thing was happening with Patrick Mahomes. All of

1487
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 2: a sudden, he started throwing interceptions trying to make something happen.

1488
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 3: I think it's just human nature.

1489
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 2: If you start believing that you can do more than

1490
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 2: you actually can do, that's when you get in trouble.

1491
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 2: You know, no quarterback threw more interceptions in the history

1492
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:55,480
Speaker 2: of the NFL than Brett Farr because he was constantly

1493
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 2: trying to make play. So if Hurtz just minimizes the mistakes,

1494
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 2: and it's true for Dak Prescott as well, let the

1495
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 2: offense play out.

1496
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 3: What these teams could make a trip to the super Bowl.

1497
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 13: The one delusional fan thing I will say is that

1498
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 13: when you play when you play the Dallas Cowboys on

1499
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 13: National TV, the flags tend to be a little slanted

1500
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 13: their way.

1501
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: That's what I'll say.

1502
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:19,440
Speaker 3: That's not even delusional.

1503
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, the Cowboys. Look, I mean there are

1504
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 1: certain I will admit there are certain teams.

1505
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 2: They're America's team. How come they haven't been to a

1506
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 2: conference championship game? In almost thirty years.

1507
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 1: Look, I played with a quarterback who if he just

1508
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 1: gave that steely, blue eyed glare at a referee, they

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01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 1: throw the roughing the passer flag, whether whether it was

1510
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 1: whether they're actually touched or not. Right, Tom Brady could

1511
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 1: get that call anytime he won. So there are certain players,

1512
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 1: there are certain teams who get flags where others don't.

1513
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:51,719
Speaker 1: But again this goes back to Steve's point. So, okay,

1514
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 1: say the field is tilted a little bit in the

1515
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 1: Cowboys direction. From an officiating standpoint, Well, you're playing in Philadelphia. See,

1516
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 1: you've got the crowd on you. And as long as

1517
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 1: you play mistake free football, if you don't give them

1518
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 1: extra opportunities, I think the Philadelphia Eagles have a good

1519
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 1: chance of winning this football game.

1520
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 2: All right, we'll continue on around the NFL halftime with

1521
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:16,640
Speaker 2: seven games going on in the Shields Day, that's what

1522
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 2: we have right now, a big Sunday here. We got

1523
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,600
Speaker 2: all the latest second half ready to go. This is

1524
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:25,600
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. Steve Harbin, Rich Rberger. This

1525
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. We are live from

1526
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:32,719
Speaker 2: the TAIRAQ dot Com studios. So it just got third

1527
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 2: quarters underway. By the way interesting. We always seem to

1528
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 2: have that one rogue game that seems to be way

1529
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 2: out of time with the other games.

1530
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 3: That is not the case today.

1531
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 2: All of the games are within about a four minute span,

1532
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 2: all starting the second half right now.

1533
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 3: It has been a colorless first half, to say the least.

1534
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 2: And again, if you're just tuning in, we have a

1535
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 2: lot of quarterbacks that will probably make their one and

1536
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 2: only star this year, maybe in their NFL careers today

1537
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 2: and that accounts for some limited offense around the National

1538
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:10,799
Speaker 2: Football League. I want to get back to the Bears

1539
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 2: Saints game for a second here, because the Bears obviously

1540
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 2: are an interesting play in this offseason. They have their

1541
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 2: own number one pick and they also have Carolina's number

1542
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 2: one overall pick. They're sitting with a record of two

1543
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 2: and six. I don't know did you get to I

1544
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:28,680
Speaker 2: know you worked last night the San Diego State game.

1545
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 2: By the way, I watched the end of that game. Yeah,

1546
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 2: been a rough year for the Aztecs another loss this

1547
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 2: time and overtime at home. But us he was playing

1548
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 2: Washington yesterday.

1549
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams was like a tears.

1550
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 1: At the end of this game, I mean hobbing. He

1551
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 1: wasn't liking tears. He was sobbing in the arms of

1552
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 1: his family, and whoever was I believe it was his mom,

1553
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but whoever it was, that he was

1554
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 1: hugging while he was literally I mean you could see

1555
01:15:57,240 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 1: his body convulsing as tears were, was covering up his

1556
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 1: face mask because he didn't even take his helmet off. Yeah,

1557
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 1: he was so emotional after the loss.

1558
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 3: I mean, it was a back and forth game.

1559
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 2: USC I think came into the game with the second

1560
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 2: worst scoring defense in the country. That might be number

1561
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 2: one now after giving him fifty two points to Washington,

1562
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 2: But this was the game.

1563
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 3: This was it.

1564
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:23,640
Speaker 2: I mean, this eliminated any path for him to miraculously

1565
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 2: get into the college football playoff.

1566
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 3: And of course it doesn't get any easier.

1567
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 2: Next week they're on the road against the Ducks in Eugene.

1568
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 2: That being said, I'm watching him play yesterday and he's still,

1569
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 2: without question, the best quarterback prospect in this draft.

1570
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 3: I mean he I mean, this guy can do things

1571
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 3: on the field.

1572
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 2: He can't play defense, okay, and he can't hire a

1573
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:52,639
Speaker 2: competent defensive coordinator, something that his coach apparently lost sight

1574
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 2: of after last year's disappointing finish. I'm not I'm making

1575
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make this yere. I'm not a big Lincoln

1576
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:03,799
Speaker 2: Riley guy at all. To me, he's Cliff Kingsbury, meaning

1577
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 2: he's a one trick pony. He understands how offense is

1578
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 2: everything else. But you're a head coach, you know, Lincl'

1579
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 2: Riley's trying to ride the coattails of Caleb Williams into

1580
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 2: an NFL coaching job.

1581
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 3: He had one.

1582
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 2: Job to do at the end of last season to

1583
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 2: make this a year where things could go the next step,

1584
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 2: and that was to fix the defense. He decided to

1585
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 2: stand pat and the prediction and the results have been predictable, worse,

1586
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 2: worse than even imaginable.

1587
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 3: That aside.

1588
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:38,520
Speaker 2: Talking about the Bears talking about the Caleb Williams sweepstakes,

1589
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 2: this is going to be very interesting off season of

1590
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 2: decision making for this Bears.

1591
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 1: Team, no doubt.

1592
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 3: What do we do?

1593
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 2: I what if Justin Fields comes back and plays decently

1594
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 2: and maybe the Bears win a few games and all

1595
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 2: of a sudden they're sitting with Carolina's pick at number one.

1596
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 2: You ride it out with Justin Fields hoping things get better.

1597
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 2: Do you make a change at co coach. Do you

1598
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:02,600
Speaker 2: roll the dice and say, no, we're gonna go with

1599
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams. He is a generational talent. That's a lot

1600
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 2: at stake for the Chicago Bears.

1601
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean here's here's the biggest question in my opinion,

1602
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 1: is is who is going to be the next head coach?

1603
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 1: I mean outside the quarterback Like, we know what it

1604
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 1: looks like when you get a talented quarterback paired with

1605
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 1: the wrong system, the wrong head coach. So even if

1606
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 1: you bring in Caleb Williams, what does that mean? It's

1607
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:30,719
Speaker 1: not worth a hill of beans without a great culture builder.

1608
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 1: So is that Lincoln Riley? I mean, would you be

1609
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 1: willing to make a wholesale change if that's even possible.

1610
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean he's never coached at the

1611
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 1: NFL level before, so certainly not as a head coach.

1612
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,679
Speaker 1: I don't know if that works, you know, So yes,

1613
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 1: I'm you gotta make a change or you got to

1614
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 1: fix the quarterback situation in Chicago, But you also need

1615
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 1: to build a culture in Chicago has been bereft of

1616
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:59,600
Speaker 1: a culture since the eighties. I mean, what has the

1617
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 1: Chicago Iago Bear's identity been since the eighties. It's been

1618
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 1: a lot of inconsistency. I can promise you.

1619
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 3: That very interesting time for the Bears.

1620
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 2: By the way, Stints lead that game by a score

1621
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 2: of seventeen to fourteen. The Seahawks are getting worked by

1622
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 2: the Ravens, who have now taken a twenty to three

1623
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 2: lead in this game. And I think this is less

1624
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 2: about the Seahawks and Gino Smith is struggling just six

1625
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 2: of fourteen ninety three yards, no touchdowns in a pick.

1626
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 2: They also have no running game. They only have eighty

1627
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 2: nine total yards. And it's much more about the Ravens

1628
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,599
Speaker 2: and Lamar Jackson. You know you've been hearing all these

1629
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 2: names bantered about about MVP. How about a second MVP

1630
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 2: for Lamar Jackson. He has one hundred and twenty nine

1631
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 2: yards passing thirteen of eighteen no picks. He's also run

1632
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 2: for sixty one yards in this game. I mean, I

1633
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, you could have the Chiefs

1634
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 2: and Dolphins right now today. The Ravens play either one

1635
01:19:57,160 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 2: of those teams. The Ravens w this is the best

1636
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 2: team in the AF see right now, all.

1637
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 1: Right, listen, I understand the argument and I know how

1638
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 1: dominant they've looked recently. But you also have to remember

1639
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:13,679
Speaker 1: that Patrick Mahomes still exists, that Andy Reid still exists,

1640
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 1: that they win on the road, and they just got

1641
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:19,839
Speaker 1: another win against a top AFC rival and the Miami

1642
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 1: Dolphins and kind of made them look foolish in the

1643
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 1: second half. Buddy, I can't give anybody the throne until

1644
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:32,520
Speaker 1: I'm certain they can beat the Chiefs in the postseason,

1645
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 1: and I am uncertain that the Baltimore Ravens can do so.

1646
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, this Ravens team is destined

1647
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:41,879
Speaker 2: for greatness.

1648
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 3: I got it right there.

1649
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 2: If it's not the Bengals, all right, we got these

1650
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 2: second halfs underway. We got the scores, we got the stats,

1651
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 2: everything you need. Keep it right here. This is Fox

1652
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 2: Sports Red Zone Radio, rolling along in another busy NFL Sunday.

1653
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Speaker 2: should be all right. Second halfs are underway around the NFL.

1660
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 2: The reason we didn't play a highlight at the top

1661
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:21,720
Speaker 2: of the hour. We don't play field goals. We need touchdowns,

1662
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 2: and we're not getting any touchdowns right now. I do

1663
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 2: want to call to light though, one player playing right now,

1664
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 2: and that's CJ. Stroud, the rookie quarterback for the Houston Texans.

1665
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 2: Sixteen to twenty four, two hundred and thirty two yards,

1666
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 2: two touchdowns, and no picks. What makes his numbers even

1667
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 2: more impressive is that Houston's running game has seven carries

1668
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:44,799
Speaker 2: for seven yards, so there's no balance in this offense.

1669
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:49,639
Speaker 2: They are leaning on a rookie quarterback to generate offense

1670
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 2: right now, the Texans trailing the Buccaneers twenty to sixteen

1671
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 2: inside twelve minutes to go in the third quarter. But

1672
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 2: you know, we've talked about justin fields. We've talked about

1673
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 2: other Ohio state quarterbacks over the years that have found

1674
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 2: it hard to find success at the NFL level.

1675
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 1: C J.

1676
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 2: Stroud has had a historic start to his rookie career.

1677
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 2: In fact, he had more throws attempts without an interception

1678
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:16,759
Speaker 2: than any quarterback to start his NFL career.

1679
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 1: Is this just.

1680
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 2: Early success, you know, Or is this something that you

1681
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 2: can honestly look at halfway through his rookie year and say,

1682
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 2: five years from now, three years from now, ten years

1683
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 2: from now, CJ. Stroud will be one of the elite

1684
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:41,640
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the National Football League.

1685
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 1: I don't think you can underrate how unlikely it is

1686
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 1: that CJ. Stroud is having success. I mean I do

1687
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 1: this with people on my other radio shows. Name a

1688
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 1: Houston Texan, Go on.

1689
01:22:58,520 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 3: How about Noah Brown?

1690
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:04,839
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like, name Dalton Schultz, Name a Houston Texan receiver,

1691
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:10,639
Speaker 1: right Tank Dell? Yeah, Like we're talking about an anonymous roster.

1692
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:11,480
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

1693
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 1: Like this is one of arguably the youngest and most

1694
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 1: experienced and frankly poor rosters in the NFL, and c J. Stroud,

1695
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 1: in spite of all that, has been playing near perfect

1696
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 1: football for somebody dealt the hand he's been dealt in

1697
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,839
Speaker 1: the draft. He's also doing a nice job of protecting

1698
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 1: himself because his offensive line certainly is not He's getting

1699
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,679
Speaker 1: rid of the football, he's making good decisions with the football.

1700
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 1: He's not hurting the team. He's also not hurting himself.

1701
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 1: This is a smart player. He reminds me a lot

1702
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:52,480
Speaker 1: of an Andrew Luck actually with less of a propensity

1703
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 1: to put himself in situations where he's going to get

1704
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 1: clabbered because he went into a completely, i mean does

1705
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 1: disaster of a colts team, and he was a bright

1706
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 1: shining light that they figured, Okay, yeah, we have a

1707
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 1: long term fix here. We're gonna build around him, We're

1708
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 1: gonna commit to him, and things are gonna get done.

1709
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:15,719
Speaker 1: But because he was savaged earlier in his career trying

1710
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 1: to make plays with his legs. Obviously, he was a

1711
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 1: tremendous dual threat athlete as a quarterback. He could throw

1712
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 1: it on the run, he could run it himself. He

1713
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 1: was a big man, you know, so Andrew Luck, he

1714
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 1: took a lot of abuse. Think like almost like a

1715
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. That's not CJ. Stroud's game. You know, he

1716
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:35,720
Speaker 1: is a pocket passer. He can extend plays. He's good

1717
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:37,759
Speaker 1: to have athlete to get out of trouble. He's evasive

1718
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,680
Speaker 1: in the pocket. But but CJ. Stroud is going to

1719
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 1: protect himself. He's going to make the people around him better.

1720
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 1: Clearly he's done that this season. I think if you

1721
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 1: look at this year's draft and we go back five

1722
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 1: years from now and we say who really got it right?

1723
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 1: The Houston Texans drafting C. J. Stroud really got it.

1724
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 3: Right, no doubt about that.

1725
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 2: Now, other things are happening, For instance, the Arizona Cardinals.

1726
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 2: This may be one of the worst offensive lineups we've

1727
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 2: ever seen for a week in the NFL with a

1728
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 2: team Clayton toone, who's a fifth round pick, was forced

1729
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:20,839
Speaker 2: to start a quarterback. Dobbs had been traded to the Vikings.

1730
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray still not ready. He's five to ten twenty

1731
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 2: two yards. He's been sacked three times for negative twenty

1732
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:30,599
Speaker 2: two yards, meaning they have a zero net yards passing

1733
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 2: and they have twenty two yards rushing. By the way,

1734
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 2: two has twelve of those, so they have twenty two

1735
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 2: total yards with eight minutes to go in the third quarter. Remember,

1736
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:46,600
Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals were the overwhelming favorites to be the

1737
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 2: worst team in the NFL before the season began. The

1738
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 2: over runner on them was four and a half wins.

1739
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 2: Every other team was at least six and a half wins.

1740
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 1: And for good reason, because they were outwardly obviously tanking

1741
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 1: by not only I mean they could, they had to

1742
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 1: add no choice they put Kyler Murray on pup. But

1743
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 1: then they cut the quarterback who started all of their

1744
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 1: games and played the majority of their snaps during preseason

1745
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 1: training camp, right and all the games in the preseason,

1746
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:17,719
Speaker 1: and had Josh Dobbs start who was an unlikely fire

1747
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 1: starter A little bit for that for that offense.

1748
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 3: Remember that game against the forty, Well, remember they beat

1749
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 3: the Cowboys.

1750
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 1: They beat the Cowboys, and then guess what they did

1751
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 1: with Josh Dobbs. They traded him away. So the Cardinals

1752
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 1: are still committed to.

1753
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 2: Tanking now, I think at this point, and they have

1754
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 2: the worst record in the league and it's only going

1755
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 2: to get worse. To down twenty nothing to the Browns today,

1756
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:40,639
Speaker 2: they're going to have that number one overall pick. Now,

1757
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:43,640
Speaker 2: this gets back to that whole story about Caleb Williams

1758
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 2: having a choice. Now, this has been a wildly disappointing

1759
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 2: season for Caleb Williams at USC. And even if he

1760
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 2: decided I don't want to be an Arizona Cardinal, that's

1761
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 2: a tough sell to come.

1762
01:26:58,040 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 3: Back to USC.

1763
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he gave them an opportunity. Now, he wasn't

1764
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 2: eligible for the draft this year, but he gave his

1765
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 2: coach who is so tightly connected to Lincoln Riley an

1766
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:13,640
Speaker 2: opportunity to get things right on the defensive side of

1767
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:16,599
Speaker 2: the football and has gone completely sideways. I mean, they

1768
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 2: are arguably the worst defense in the country. They give

1769
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 2: a forty nine points to cow last week, So I

1770
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 2: mean he may get stuck with the Arizona Cardinals. And yeah,

1771
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 2: well you talked earlier about how barren the Texans were.

1772
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:37,640
Speaker 1: Hang on a second, Hang on a second. Yeah, So

1773
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 1: I have a theory.

1774
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 3: Okay, I love these This is a big.

1775
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 1: Time theory based off of.

1776
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 3: I've heard a lot of Rich theories over the years.

1777
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 1: Well, this one makes a lot of sense. Can bear

1778
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 1: with me for a second.

1779
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 3: Acording to Rich, it makes sense.

1780
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:52,799
Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah, it always makes sense to me. Yes, okay,

1781
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 1: So here's my theory. All right, here's my theory. The

1782
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals are not going to be able to draft

1783
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams even if they affected tank and earn the

1784
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 1: first overall pick, because I think the NFL is going

1785
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 1: to try to find a way to strip them of

1786
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:05,639
Speaker 1: that pick.

1787
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:07,720
Speaker 3: What So check this out.

1788
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 1: What just happened? This huge expose article all of a

1789
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 1: sudden lands and Basically, Michael Bidwell is a jerk. That's

1790
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:20,200
Speaker 1: that I saw that. Yes, that's the slug line is

1791
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 1: he treats everybody like garbage around the office. And you know,

1792
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 1: he's obviously from a gender standpoint, discriminatory with his behaviors

1793
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 1: towards women in the workplace versus men in the workplace.

1794
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 3: He's Daniel Snyder.

1795
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 1: He's Daniel Snyder. I don't know if there was as

1796
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 1: many sexual misconduct things or allegations around Michael Bidwell. I

1797
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 1: didn't get to that part of the article. I don't

1798
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 1: know if you did. But the things that we're being

1799
01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:50,679
Speaker 1: unearthed was that he created a very toxic work environment.

1800
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 2: Do I understand the Bidwells have owned the Cardinals since

1801
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 2: nineteen thirty three, that is.

1802
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 1: Correct, But I do also believe that the NFL, the

1803
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 1: rest of the owners, the league's owners, thirty one other owners,

1804
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 1: they all know that there's kind of honor amongst these thieves,

1805
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:06,680
Speaker 1: Like they look at each other and they say, yeah,

1806
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 1: this is my competition, but also we have to do

1807
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 1: what's best for the shield too, And when one particular

1808
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 1: owner steps way out of line, all of a sudden,

1809
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 1: everybody turns on him. It happened with Daniel Snyder, it

1810
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 1: happened with Jerry Richardson. It may be happening with Michael

1811
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:26,760
Speaker 1: Bidwell here. And I think it's all encircled around the

1812
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:30,240
Speaker 1: fact that Caleb Williams is a generational talent and the

1813
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 1: Cardinals again are outwardly embarrassing the NFL at every turn,

1814
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 1: trying to tank so they can get Caleb Williams. He

1815
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 1: doesn't want to go there. The NFL doesn't want Kayleb

1816
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 1: Williams to go to Arizona. I can promise you that.

1817
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 1: And so I think I think this expose that just

1818
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:49,720
Speaker 1: was released, and this is a little bit of tin

1819
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 1: and foil hat stuff. I think that this expose that

1820
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:54,680
Speaker 1: was just released may have been tipped off by somebody,

1821
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 1: you know, at the league office level saying, hey, you know, hint, hint,

1822
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 1: you might want to take a look look at the

1823
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 1: office environment over there in Arizona. Hint, hint. So I

1824
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 1: don't know. I think somehow the NFL is going to

1825
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 1: get in the way of the Arizona Cardinals actually being

1826
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:11,600
Speaker 1: able to draft Kleb with Well.

1827
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 3: That's saying a lot.

1828
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:12,760
Speaker 1: Again.

1829
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 2: The bid Wells have been in charge of this franchise

1830
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 2: almost as long as any other family. I mean that's

1831
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:20,720
Speaker 2: and they go back as long as the Rooneyes went

1832
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:24,599
Speaker 2: with the Steelers. So it's not like Daniel Snyder who

1833
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:29,640
Speaker 2: bought into the then Redskins franchise. That's gonna be a

1834
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:32,879
Speaker 2: tough sell. But that aside, if he does become a Cardinal,

1835
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 2: you just talk about c J. Stroud having him to

1836
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:36,559
Speaker 2: get it done with very little help.

1837
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, forget about it.

1838
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 2: Imagine what Caleb Walliams is going to inherit with those

1839
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:41,679
Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals.

1840
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 3: All right, we're going to get back to these games.

1841
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:47,120
Speaker 2: The one thing about low scoring games, they're all close,

1842
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:51,680
Speaker 2: well except Arizona because they literally have no offense. But

1843
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 2: we'll keep you updated on a lot of close games,

1844
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 2: which are these games will end up being the game

1845
01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 2: we we have that exciting finish up.

1846
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 1: Stay with us.

1847
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:02,600
Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

1848
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:04,800
Speaker 9: Ford in the back of the we're watching on third down.

1849
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 9: Back to throw them in a little the end zone

1850
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 9: throws to Nadjoku for the score. David n Joku with

1851
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 9: a touchdown grab from Deshaun Watson, his second scoring pass

1852
01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 9: of the day, and the Browns put six more up

1853
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:18,240
Speaker 9: they lead nineteen to nothing.

1854
01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 2: That's the Browns radio network essentially a bye this week

1855
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 2: against a defenseless Arizona team twenty nhing Browns a hundred

1856
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:30,719
Speaker 2: a minute to go in the third quarter in that game.

1857
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:33,920
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio Steve Hartman and

1858
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 2: Rich Ornberger. We are live from the tay Iraq dot

1859
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:40,920
Speaker 2: com studios. Meanwhile, we were talking about CJ. Stroud and

1860
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 2: CJ Stroud, Well, he just threw his third touchdown pass

1861
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 2: of the game, this time to Tank Dell twenty nine

1862
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:50,920
Speaker 2: yard touchdown. So the extra point ties it at twenty

1863
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 2: three no. With six minutes ago in the third quarter

1864
01:31:56,400 --> 01:32:00,679
Speaker 2: at home, the Houston Texans, instead of in the game,

1865
01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:05,360
Speaker 2: decided to go for a two point conversion and they

1866
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 2: didn't get it with six minutes to go in the

1867
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 2: third quarter. Now, I want to see the sheet, the

1868
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 2: analytics sheet that says you're down by one with six

1869
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:22,840
Speaker 2: minutes to go in the third quarter and you go

1870
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:27,880
Speaker 2: for two Show me the formula that came out with

1871
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:31,760
Speaker 2: that spit that out to go for two point conversions.

1872
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:34,560
Speaker 2: So the Texans instead of tied with five minutes to

1873
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:37,439
Speaker 2: go now in the third quarter, trail Tampa twenty three

1874
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:38,320
Speaker 2: to twenty two, and.

1875
01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:42,120
Speaker 1: At home, you know, at home, no less overtime. That

1876
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:46,720
Speaker 1: stadium yet's loud. Sure, you're going to have obviously a

1877
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:49,760
Speaker 1: very difficult time for that Buccaneers offense, even if they

1878
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 1: get the ball first. I I don't understand it's Steve,

1879
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:55,559
Speaker 1: it's not conservative to try to tie the ball game

1880
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 1: in the third quarter at home. It's now, and it's

1881
01:32:58,280 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 1: not to go in the third And by the way,

1882
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:04,800
Speaker 1: it's also not intelligent or quote unquote aggressive to go

1883
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:07,599
Speaker 1: for the two point conversion to take a one point

1884
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 1: lead at this point in the game. It's stupid.

1885
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:14,599
Speaker 3: It was un believable. We were all like, what just happened.

1886
01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:18,639
Speaker 1: Now, Now, Demico Ryans, I think he's a pretty smart guy.

1887
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:20,880
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna go back and he's gonna look

1888
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:23,559
Speaker 1: at that decision and he's gonna say, yeah, geez, you

1889
01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 1: know what if I could do it all over again,

1890
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:29,160
Speaker 1: dot dot. But there's a lot of coaches who stick

1891
01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:31,759
Speaker 1: to their guns. They won't learn from these hard lessons,

1892
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:33,640
Speaker 1: and we've seen that many times in the NFL, and

1893
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 1: they just don't last long. So Ryan's he's got to

1894
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:39,720
Speaker 1: figure this out. He's a rookie head coach, and it's

1895
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:42,400
Speaker 1: looked pretty good. And I think part of the reason

1896
01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:44,280
Speaker 1: is because I do think he has talent. I think

1897
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:46,680
Speaker 1: he's a good leader of men, but also because he

1898
01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:50,720
Speaker 1: has a quarterback in CJ. Stroud, who has bailed out

1899
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 1: this organization from really really looking bad this season. The

1900
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 1: only reason why they're floorting with an even record this

1901
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:00,599
Speaker 1: season is because of CJ. Stroud. Let's be very honest

1902
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:03,880
Speaker 1: with each other. So decisions like this, you know these

1903
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 1: these are these aren't decisions you want to make a

1904
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:07,559
Speaker 1: habit of.

1905
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:11,840
Speaker 2: All Right, the Vikings have just scored, and now this

1906
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:14,839
Speaker 2: one makes sense. They're gonna go for a two point conversion.

1907
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 2: They're on the road against Atlanta and with the score,

1908
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 2: they're trailing twenty one to nineteen. Now you don't know

1909
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:23,840
Speaker 2: about this game. Joshua Dobbs, who just ran it in

1910
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:27,600
Speaker 2: for a touchdown, he probably didn't even know the playbook.

1911
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 2: I mean, he was picked up this week right at

1912
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:32,920
Speaker 2: the trade deadline by the Vikings, and they started the

1913
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:35,439
Speaker 2: rookie Jalen Hall just for a week and then we'll

1914
01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 2: get Dobbs in at quarterback. But Hall goes down with

1915
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:41,599
Speaker 2: an injury, so They're forced Dobbs into the lineup, and

1916
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:44,479
Speaker 2: he has played unbelievable nine to fourteen eighty nine yards,

1917
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 2: a touchdown and no picks. He has run for forty

1918
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 2: one yards and a touchdown. So there are two point

1919
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:55,200
Speaker 2: conversion away from tying it with at the Falcons. Let's

1920
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:58,640
Speaker 2: check out the two point conversion attempt right now, and

1921
01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:01,679
Speaker 2: they are going to pass the Dobbs is gonna scramble,

1922
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:04,519
Speaker 2: look around, and he's gonna have to throw it, and

1923
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 2: he does and it is good two point conversion. Josh Dobbs. Yeah,

1924
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 2: Joshua Dobbs getting it done. On the other side, Taylor

1925
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:18,240
Speaker 2: Heineke is now the quarterback of the Atlanta Falcons, right, correct?

1926
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 3: I mean Desmond Ridder No, not good heinikey in.

1927
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 2: And again this is a Falcons team that started the

1928
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:27,639
Speaker 2: day at four and four, I mean a win today,

1929
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:29,599
Speaker 2: they're very much in the playoff picture.

1930
01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:32,400
Speaker 3: Were you surprised by that decision for the Falcons?

1931
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 1: Absolutely not, Absolutely not. Desmond Ritter outside of a couple

1932
01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:40,479
Speaker 1: of games, and really you can limit it, limit it

1933
01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 1: to less than a couple of games. Two quarters, frankly

1934
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:48,040
Speaker 1: hasn't looked very good this season and that's nothing against

1935
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:52,120
Speaker 1: Desmond Ridder. This game is hard. He's inexperienced and he's

1936
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:55,000
Speaker 1: got a lot to learn. Taylor Heineke is a better

1937
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:57,360
Speaker 1: quarterback and I think we knew that going into the

1938
01:35:57,400 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 1: season when he was on the roster and they announced

1939
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:01,320
Speaker 1: Desmon Ridder as a starter, and maybe it took them

1940
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 1: a little while to learn the playbook because he had

1941
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:08,719
Speaker 1: n't been there, etc. Etc. But this was a decision.

1942
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:11,200
Speaker 1: I think we all saw it coming, especially after when

1943
01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 1: Heineke took over last week, and it just looks so

1944
01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 1: so much better. So I think in terms of the Falcons,

1945
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:21,639
Speaker 1: when you look around the NFC South and you start

1946
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:25,000
Speaker 1: thinking to yourself, like, Okay, how is this all gonna

1947
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:27,719
Speaker 1: shake out? Well, the Falcons right now at four and four,

1948
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 1: have the lead in the division. They're right on top

1949
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:36,160
Speaker 1: of a Saints team with the same record, So it's

1950
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:38,840
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of I mean, like I'm not

1951
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:41,400
Speaker 1: saying I'm not saying they're in their window. I think

1952
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:44,839
Speaker 1: they still have to ultimately figure out the quarterback position.

1953
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if Taylor Heinike is your long term

1954
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:50,720
Speaker 1: fix there, but but the windows starting to open there.

1955
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 1: There's a lot of talent around that defense. There's definitely

1956
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:55,439
Speaker 1: a lot of talent around that offense. They got to

1957
01:36:55,479 --> 01:36:58,719
Speaker 1: figure out the quarterback position. But right now they're leading

1958
01:36:58,720 --> 01:36:59,400
Speaker 1: their division.

1959
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:02,720
Speaker 2: By the way, the Saints a little trickery to take

1960
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 2: a twenty four to seventeen lead over the Bears eleven

1961
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:06,760
Speaker 2: minutes to go. In the fourth courter in this game,

1962
01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 2: they bring in Taysom Hill at the three yard line. Right,

1963
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 2: He's gonna run the ball like he normally does. No,

1964
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:15,360
Speaker 2: he throws a touchdown pass to Jwan Johnson. So the

1965
01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:17,800
Speaker 2: Saints lead the Bears by a score of twenty four

1966
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 2: to seventeen. Tyson Bagen has played very well for the

1967
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:24,600
Speaker 2: Bears today, sixteen to twenty two hundred three yards, two touchdowns,

1968
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:27,960
Speaker 2: he has one pick. He's also run for seventy yards.

1969
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:31,960
Speaker 2: But it is the Saints, and when you look at

1970
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:36,720
Speaker 2: the Raiders mess and by the way, Jimmy Garoppolo has

1971
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:39,799
Speaker 2: been benched with everything else that happened this week. In fact,

1972
01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:43,560
Speaker 2: they have announced that An O'Connell will be the quarterback

1973
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:46,960
Speaker 2: for the Raiders the rest of the way, right, and

1974
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:51,599
Speaker 2: Brian Horror is the backup. Jimmy Garoppolo is finished as

1975
01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:56,759
Speaker 2: the quarterback of the Raiders. Meanwhile, Derek Carr today twenty

1976
01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:59,000
Speaker 2: at twenty eight, twenty of twenty eight, one hundred ninety

1977
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:01,920
Speaker 2: one yards, two touchdowns, no picks, and the Saints are

1978
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:05,519
Speaker 2: leading the Bears. I mean, I want to talk about

1979
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:09,599
Speaker 2: Josh McDaniels for a second here. So he comes in

1980
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:13,600
Speaker 2: and inherits a team that had made the playoffs, and

1981
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:16,360
Speaker 2: I'm looking, I'm not going to overplay the Raiders of

1982
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:19,280
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. They were outscored by sixty five points.

1983
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:21,639
Speaker 2: A lot had to happen for that team to end.

1984
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:22,440
Speaker 3: Up in the postseason.

1985
01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:27,439
Speaker 2: And last year there were some positives, right, I mean,

1986
01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:31,439
Speaker 2: you have a receiver who leads the league in receiving yards,

1987
01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:34,760
Speaker 2: a rusher leads the league in rushing yards, and now

1988
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:37,320
Speaker 2: we find themselves in this mess. But let's get back

1989
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:42,559
Speaker 2: to his not being comfortable with Derek Carr. And I've

1990
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:47,000
Speaker 2: always said this about Derek Carr. Derek Carr is a

1991
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:50,160
Speaker 2: little better than middle of the pack. In fact, Derek

1992
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:52,759
Speaker 2: Carr at his best, I think is a lot above

1993
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:53,840
Speaker 2: middle of the pack.

1994
01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:57,639
Speaker 3: I like his leadership qualities. I always have What do.

1995
01:38:57,600 --> 01:39:01,000
Speaker 2: You think happened and why was Josh mc daniels so

1996
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:03,960
Speaker 2: sour on Derek Carr as his quarterback.

1997
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:07,600
Speaker 1: I don't think it's Derek Carr. I think it's a

1998
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:11,160
Speaker 1: little bit of anybody except for Tom Brady. When you're

1999
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:16,000
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels and the only quarterback you've ever had success

2000
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:20,360
Speaker 1: within the NFL is Tom Brady, every other quarterback you

2001
01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:23,760
Speaker 1: work with is going to pail in comparison. Well, you

2002
01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:26,160
Speaker 1: have to make good, You have to make amends with that.

2003
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:29,559
Speaker 1: You have to realize nobody is gonna be Tom Brady

2004
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:33,160
Speaker 1: or even close to his capabilities as a processor. He's

2005
01:39:33,160 --> 01:39:35,840
Speaker 1: not gonna There's gonna be no other quarterback who's gonna

2006
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:38,400
Speaker 1: be able to download the playbook and almost act like

2007
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:42,280
Speaker 1: a second offensive coach or coordinator on the field at

2008
01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:45,719
Speaker 1: times for you, like he wanted that with Jimmy Garoppolo,

2009
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 1: but it wasn't there. Jimmy Garoppolo is not Tom Brady.

2010
01:39:49,400 --> 01:39:51,680
Speaker 1: That's been proven many times over and over again in

2011
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:54,800
Speaker 1: this league as a starter already. He's just not. And

2012
01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:58,639
Speaker 1: that's okay. Look, nobody's Tom Brady. And I think Jimmy

2013
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:01,920
Speaker 1: Garoppolo would tell you, if he was being perfectly honest,

2014
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:05,040
Speaker 1: there's no way he should be even in the same conversation.

2015
01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:08,200
Speaker 1: But I honestly think that's what Josh McDaniels was trying

2016
01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:10,200
Speaker 1: to do with Jimmy G. He was trying to force

2017
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 1: that square peg into a round hold and be like,

2018
01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:15,640
Speaker 1: Jimmy G, you need to do what Brady did. We

2019
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:18,240
Speaker 1: need to create Patriots West here. This has to be

2020
01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:21,479
Speaker 1: They literally surrounded Jimmy Garoppolo by six or seven other

2021
01:40:21,680 --> 01:40:24,240
Speaker 1: former Patriots who he had played with during his time

2022
01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:27,959
Speaker 1: in New England. Like this was a commitment to making

2023
01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:34,679
Speaker 1: to making a carbon copy of the environment that Bill

2024
01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:38,519
Speaker 1: Belichick created in New England. And it's impossible to do

2025
01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:42,679
Speaker 1: because Bill Belichick is a special culture builder. Tom Brady

2026
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:45,160
Speaker 1: is a special quarterback. And so it had nothing to

2027
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:47,160
Speaker 1: do with Jimmy G. It had nothing to do with

2028
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:49,920
Speaker 1: Derek Carr, It had nothing to do with Aidan O'Connell

2029
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:55,479
Speaker 1: or any of the quarterbacks that Josh McDaniels coach while

2030
01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:58,280
Speaker 1: he was in Las Vegas. It wasn't gonna work because

2031
01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:01,680
Speaker 1: nobody's Tom Brady and he can't coach anybody other than

2032
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:03,360
Speaker 1: Tom Brady at that quarterback position.

2033
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 3: Breaking news from Fox Sport Montee. We have some breaking news.

2034
01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:12,759
Speaker 11: We do have some breaking news. You guys were talking

2035
01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:14,479
Speaker 11: about USC losing last night.

2036
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 10: Well, according to multiple reports, they have fired their defensive coordinator,

2037
01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:19,839
Speaker 10: Alex Grinch.

2038
01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, Lincoln Riley's guy.

2039
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:26,360
Speaker 10: Correct, So, defensive line coach Sean Nua and inside linebackers

2040
01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:29,720
Speaker 10: coach Brian Odom will serve as co defensive coordinators the

2041
01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:30,479
Speaker 10: rest of the season.

2042
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:33,920
Speaker 2: This is very interesting. First of all, it's a season loss,

2043
01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:35,840
Speaker 2: a little too late for that. They should have fired

2044
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:39,160
Speaker 2: this guy before the season even began. Yeah, but this

2045
01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:44,040
Speaker 2: is Lincoln Riley's guy, and he's loyal to him. And

2046
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:48,200
Speaker 2: the fact that the university stepped in because you know,

2047
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:50,439
Speaker 2: you know how this works, Rich, This is where you

2048
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:53,280
Speaker 2: know the athletic director, you know, and you see a

2049
01:41:53,439 --> 01:41:58,519
Speaker 2: sobbing Caleb Williams, and you've invested a lot of nil

2050
01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:00,839
Speaker 2: money over the last couple of years in this team

2051
01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 2: and this season goes south on you. Lincoln Riley's guy

2052
01:42:06,240 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 2: gets fired. Does this mean Lincoln Riley is the next

2053
01:42:10,240 --> 01:42:11,040
Speaker 2: to go from USC?

2054
01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:13,839
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think he's gonna be fired.

2055
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:17,760
Speaker 2: Well, my point is is he actively seeking to get

2056
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:20,519
Speaker 2: out of there? You know much money they're paying Lincoln Riley.

2057
01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:22,880
Speaker 2: Do you know the package they gave him he's come

2058
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:23,519
Speaker 2: to USC.

2059
01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:26,519
Speaker 1: First of all, they're not firing him because they're gonna

2060
01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:31,000
Speaker 1: own so much money. If anything, if they want a

2061
01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:33,600
Speaker 1: clean split from Lincoln Riley, they're going to have to

2062
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:40,360
Speaker 1: figure out a contractually, mutually beneficial way to do this,

2063
01:42:40,920 --> 01:42:43,760
Speaker 1: otherwise their hands are tied. A lot of people are

2064
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 1: talking about him leaving for the NFL. Well, I think

2065
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:48,840
Speaker 1: that would be probably a pay cut for Lincoln Riley,

2066
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:52,799
Speaker 1: and it would probably be extraordinarily expensive for the USC

2067
01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:55,640
Speaker 1: Trojans to figure out if if they want to do that.

2068
01:42:55,800 --> 01:43:01,880
Speaker 1: So I don't really foresee that happening. And so because look,

2069
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:05,719
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley, let's face it, he's got a great track

2070
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:07,040
Speaker 1: record with quarterbacks.

2071
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:10,360
Speaker 2: I mean, he's turned paper. He's a one trick pony.

2072
01:43:10,439 --> 01:43:13,880
Speaker 2: He develops quarterbacks by the way transfer quarterbacks. But nonetheless

2073
01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 2: good track record with quarterbacks.

2074
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:17,960
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. I mean whether you're a transfer or

2075
01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:23,040
Speaker 1: you're a recruited freshman who he's developed. Lincoln Riley, he's

2076
01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:24,000
Speaker 1: got the golden touch.

2077
01:43:24,160 --> 01:43:25,920
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I would do. I would hire him

2078
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:30,759
Speaker 2: as a quarterback coach at the NFL. At the NFL level, Steve,

2079
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:34,680
Speaker 2: Are you mad? Why would any human being take a

2080
01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:35,559
Speaker 2: down grade?

2081
01:43:35,800 --> 01:43:38,280
Speaker 3: Well, he own quarterback, but the NFL.

2082
01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:40,400
Speaker 2: But I mean, if I'm the NFL, I'm not hiring

2083
01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:41,439
Speaker 2: this guy as a head coach.

2084
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:44,200
Speaker 1: No, no, no, but but that's not even discussion. He's not

2085
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:47,519
Speaker 1: leaving USC unless he has a head coach position waiting

2086
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:48,599
Speaker 1: for him at How do you think.

2087
01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:51,200
Speaker 2: That conversation went with his buddy that he had to

2088
01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:51,960
Speaker 2: show him the door.

2089
01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:54,320
Speaker 1: Well, I think part of the reason why I did

2090
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:57,200
Speaker 1: it was because he knew that there was no other choice.

2091
01:43:57,520 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 1: It's a results driven business. And if honestly, if if

2092
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:05,000
Speaker 1: Alex Grinch is a buddy, is a dog, is a guy,

2093
01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:08,120
Speaker 1: he knows that he should he should have been going

2094
01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:11,439
Speaker 1: into Lincoln's office and saying, hey, dude, any day now

2095
01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:13,800
Speaker 1: if you need to fire me, I get it. Like

2096
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:17,400
Speaker 1: like if he if he truly is like a good friend,

2097
01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:20,439
Speaker 1: he's he's falling on the sword for his buddy, because

2098
01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:25,680
Speaker 1: that defense is unacceptable. When you have an offense that

2099
01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:29,960
Speaker 1: high powered and you can't stop multiple teams from putting

2100
01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:35,000
Speaker 1: up forty on you, what an embarrassment. USC ball places

2101
01:44:35,160 --> 01:44:37,720
Speaker 1: you can recruit with anybody in the country if you're

2102
01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:41,400
Speaker 1: at USC. I don't understand how it's possible. I don't

2103
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:45,000
Speaker 1: get how it's possible. But the Washington Huskies, by the way,

2104
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:47,599
Speaker 1: don't play any defense either, and they were able. What

2105
01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:49,200
Speaker 1: was the final score of that game last night? I

2106
01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:51,360
Speaker 1: wis were did? There was ninety plus points score fIF

2107
01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:55,080
Speaker 1: fifty two forty. I mean, just ridiculous amounts of point scored.

2108
01:44:56,600 --> 01:44:59,800
Speaker 1: This was We all saw this coming. You might be

2109
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:03,120
Speaker 1: maybe it should have happened soon. I don't know. The

2110
01:45:03,160 --> 01:45:07,599
Speaker 1: reality is, Lincoln Riley doesn't care. Lincoln Riley is there

2111
01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:12,280
Speaker 1: to produce Heisman candidates. He's there to produce offense, and

2112
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:15,360
Speaker 1: he needs to find a defensive coordinator who can stop

2113
01:45:16,280 --> 01:45:19,200
Speaker 1: opposing offenses. He's going to have very little to do

2114
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:22,719
Speaker 1: with that except for finding the right person, which clearly

2115
01:45:22,760 --> 01:45:23,720
Speaker 1: Alex Grinch was not.

2116
01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:25,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, so wow, big story there.

2117
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:29,360
Speaker 2: Let's find out what's trending right now, because not only

2118
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:31,439
Speaker 2: have big news in college football, we have seven games

2119
01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:33,479
Speaker 2: going on in the NFL right now, Moncie, we do.

2120
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:34,360
Speaker 11: And also c J.

2121
01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:36,519
Speaker 10: Stroud must have heard you guys talking about him, because

2122
01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:39,240
Speaker 10: he just threw his fourth touchdown pass to Dalton Schultz.

2123
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:42,160
Speaker 10: So the Texans have taken the lead over the Buccaneers.

2124
01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:44,679
Speaker 10: It's thirty to twenty four early in the fourth quarter.

2125
01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:47,640
Speaker 10: But he's stolen for three hundred and thirty seven yards

2126
01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:50,320
Speaker 10: and four touchdowns. That's incredible. Good for him.

2127
01:45:50,360 --> 01:45:52,240
Speaker 2: Good right, by the way, this time they got the

2128
01:45:52,280 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 2: two point conversion.

2129
01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:55,920
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, so they made up for blowing the two

2130
01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:57,799
Speaker 3: point conversion. They could have just kicked.

2131
01:45:57,600 --> 01:46:00,880
Speaker 11: Too extually, Yeah, exactly exactly. They They probably were like,

2132
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:02,879
Speaker 11: now we have to make up for it. The Ravens

2133
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:06,160
Speaker 11: have been all over the Seahawks. It's been really all Baltimore.

2134
01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:08,880
Speaker 10: They're up thirty to three early in the fourth quarter

2135
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:09,720
Speaker 10: and they have the.

2136
01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:10,639
Speaker 11: Ball as we speak.

2137
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:13,120
Speaker 10: The Saints have scored again, this time it was Taysom

2138
01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:15,639
Speaker 10: Hill with a touchdown pass. So they're beating the Bears

2139
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:19,000
Speaker 10: twenty four to seventeen. The Commanders up on the Patriots

2140
01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:21,479
Speaker 10: twenty to seventeen. Both of these games have about nine

2141
01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:23,360
Speaker 10: minutes left in the fourth quarter.

2142
01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:26,479
Speaker 11: The Rams and the Packers. What a snooze fest.

2143
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:30,240
Speaker 10: I mean, it's the same score, well, another field goal,

2144
01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:30,639
Speaker 10: but it's.

2145
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:33,160
Speaker 11: Ten to three. What a snooze fest early.

2146
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Speaker 3: In the fourth win for the Packers. If they win

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01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:36,559
Speaker 3: this game ten to three?

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Speaker 5: Is that?

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01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:37,000
Speaker 12: Like?

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01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:39,960
Speaker 11: I guess so it is.

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01:46:40,240 --> 01:46:42,559
Speaker 10: They get it on the right side, but like, no,

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01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:45,040
Speaker 10: it's been a snooze fest for sure. Jordan Love has

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01:46:45,040 --> 01:46:46,680
Speaker 10: some known for one hundred and fifty five yards, but

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01:46:47,439 --> 01:46:50,760
Speaker 10: it's not looking pretty. The Browns holding on to their

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01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:54,240
Speaker 10: shutout over the Cardinals twenty zero ten minutes left in

2156
01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 10: the game and way to go Vikings and Joshua Dobbs.

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01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:01,559
Speaker 10: They have taken the lead over the Falcons. Twenty four

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01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:03,960
Speaker 10: to twenty one is the score. All of the fourth

2159
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:06,439
Speaker 10: quarters still left, so we'll see how this one ends.

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01:47:06,920 --> 01:47:09,000
Speaker 10: And I mentioned in NBA News that James Harden is

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01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:10,759
Speaker 10: going to make his debut for the Clippers on Monday.

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01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:13,920
Speaker 10: Also he's supposed to start, So it's gonna beat James Harden,

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01:47:14,160 --> 01:47:17,320
Speaker 10: Russell Westbrook, Kawhi Leonard, Paul George.

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01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 11: And Evats Zubas starting.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how I feel about Itizza Vitza zubats Zuba.

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01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:25,040
Speaker 11: Let me tell you that nobody says his name the same.

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01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:30,200
Speaker 2: I know they will, but after much practice over the years, Zubats.

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Speaker 3: Look, I think the hardened signing is a disaster.

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01:47:33,320 --> 01:47:39,120
Speaker 10: I mean, I mean Westbrook.

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Speaker 2: I you got two guys in their mid thirties who

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01:47:40,640 --> 01:47:44,519
Speaker 2: are ball dominant guards that play no defense.

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01:47:44,600 --> 01:47:46,760
Speaker 11: So again you're being logical. Yeah, and I'm going to

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01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:50,120
Speaker 11: ask you to not be asking to be hopeful.

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01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:52,880
Speaker 3: The big thing there is trying to keep Kawhi Leonard

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01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:53,320
Speaker 3: on the court.

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01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:54,280
Speaker 11: That's it.

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01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:56,719
Speaker 10: That's it, and of course the big story that USC

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01:47:56,880 --> 01:47:59,479
Speaker 10: has released their defensive coordinator Alex Grinch.

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Speaker 2: Alright, MONTI thank you very much. Show Once again, this

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Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. Steve Hartman and Rich

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Speaker 3: So we talked about a lot of this.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, real quick, right, have a I have an update

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01:48:22,120 --> 01:48:24,160
Speaker 13: for us on why the Texans are going for two

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01:48:24,160 --> 01:48:24,559
Speaker 13: so much.

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01:48:24,760 --> 01:48:26,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, per Ryan.

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01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:28,559
Speaker 13: Berschinger, the Texans kicker is hurt.

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01:48:28,680 --> 01:48:29,840
Speaker 3: Oh well, that would make.

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01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:35,360
Speaker 4: Wally kick for the kickoff and actually he got a touchback.

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01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:38,040
Speaker 4: But I think that's why they're running two point conversions

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01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:38,759
Speaker 4: as their kickers.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, my question becomes can the punter or not kick

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Speaker 13: too like earn that paycheck.

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Speaker 6: Bro.

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Speaker 3: My question to you is, has anyone ever heard of

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01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:47,559
Speaker 3: Keaton Mitchell?

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Speaker 1: So?

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01:48:48,960 --> 01:48:53,720
Speaker 2: Keith Mitchell is a rookie with the Ravens who came

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01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:57,719
Speaker 2: into today out of South Carolina or East Carolina. Going

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01:48:57,760 --> 01:49:02,839
Speaker 2: into today, he had zero carries for zero yards. Today

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01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:05,240
Speaker 2: he has nine carries for one hundred and thirty eight

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01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:08,719
Speaker 2: yards and a touchdown, meaning his career yards per carry

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01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:13,759
Speaker 2: career is fifteen point three yards per carry. Did anybody

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01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:16,040
Speaker 2: have Keaton Mitchell on their fantasy football team?

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Speaker 3: Anybody?

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01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:18,040
Speaker 1: I did not know.

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01:49:18,520 --> 01:49:21,760
Speaker 2: No. I am trying to look where did this guy

2212
01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:26,120
Speaker 2: come from? He had actually caught a pass earlier in

2213
01:49:26,160 --> 01:49:28,600
Speaker 2: the year, but according to my I'm gonna look it

2214
01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:32,360
Speaker 2: up here. So Keiton Mitchell had played in two games

2215
01:49:32,360 --> 01:49:38,560
Speaker 2: this year and he had one catch for nine yards. Yeah,

2216
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:42,200
Speaker 2: and today, in this blowout win for the Ravens over

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01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:44,519
Speaker 2: the Seahawks, leading thirty three nine minutes ago in the

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01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:47,360
Speaker 2: fourth quarter, he has nine carries for one hundred and

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01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:49,519
Speaker 2: thirty eight yards and a touchdown.

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01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:52,200
Speaker 1: He's he's having a game, man.

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01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:54,200
Speaker 3: How about that? That's a that's pretty good.

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01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:58,880
Speaker 1: It's not bad. I'll tell you that Keaton Mitchell. Look,

2223
01:49:59,479 --> 01:50:03,960
Speaker 1: if anybody body else is savvy with their with their

2224
01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:06,439
Speaker 1: fantasy apps, go ahead and claim that off Waivers.

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01:50:07,680 --> 01:50:10,240
Speaker 2: By the way, this game is such a blowout, they've

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01:50:10,240 --> 01:50:13,800
Speaker 2: already yanked Lamar Jackson. Tyler Huntley now and at quarterback

2227
01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:17,040
Speaker 2: for the Ravens. Remember Tyler Huntley when he was voted

2228
01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:20,800
Speaker 2: to the Pro Bowl. Yeah, yeah, yeah he was. He

2229
01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:23,760
Speaker 2: was like the tenth alternate and people kept passing like

2230
01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:24,639
Speaker 2: I'm not interested.

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01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:27,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well that's the that's the problem I have with

2232
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:29,799
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls and All Stars.

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01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:33,160
Speaker 2: My attitude is, and I'm like, as an NFL historian,

2234
01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:36,000
Speaker 2: I do not count Pro Bowls in which you were

2235
01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:39,120
Speaker 2: not actually selected to the Pro Bowl. Other words, if

2236
01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:42,280
Speaker 2: you're an alternate, you could be like the sixth alternate

2237
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:46,479
Speaker 2: and get credit for a Pro Bowl. That in my

2238
01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:49,400
Speaker 2: world's not a problem. And Tyler Huntley, in my face,

2239
01:50:49,520 --> 01:50:50,960
Speaker 2: just through a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Pass, Well he's onto his next Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Wait, that's Odell Beckham Junior on the receiving end.

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01:50:57,160 --> 01:51:00,640
Speaker 1: Okay, OBJ, so that gives him five or exceptions on

2243
01:51:00,680 --> 01:51:04,519
Speaker 1: the day, Hill clips fifty yards and that touchdown, So

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01:51:04,680 --> 01:51:07,839
Speaker 1: OBJ getting it done. Mark Andrews was the leading receiver

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01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:11,080
Speaker 1: in this game for Baltimore again eight minutes left, but

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01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:14,639
Speaker 1: he can still pile some more on here, nine receptions,

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01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:18,200
Speaker 1: eighty yards there, let's see. But yeah, the player of

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01:51:18,240 --> 01:51:21,479
Speaker 1: the day, no question, Keaton Mitchell with the one hundred

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01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:23,759
Speaker 1: and thirty eight yards on the ground in a touchdown

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Speaker 1: scored rushing.

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Speaker 3: We mentioned CJ. Stroud's four touchdown pass of the day.

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01:51:27,640 --> 01:51:28,519
Speaker 3: Look at these numbers.

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01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:31,679
Speaker 2: Twenty two thirty two, three hundred and thirty seven yards,

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01:51:31,960 --> 01:51:34,840
Speaker 2: four touchdowns and no picks on a team that only

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Speaker 2: has thirty one yards rushing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and.

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01:51:38,200 --> 01:51:41,439
Speaker 2: The Texans lead the Buccaneers thirty to twenty three inside

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Speaker 2: thirteen minutes to go.

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Speaker 3: He is the real deal. If there was any question

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Speaker 3: going in now he is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's very difficult to spotlight or figure

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01:51:51,160 --> 01:51:53,840
Speaker 1: out who is going to be the quarterback that breaks

2263
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Speaker 1: through in any rookie class, especially in the first round,

2264
01:51:57,800 --> 01:52:00,439
Speaker 1: because you could talk yourself into things and talk yourself

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Speaker 1: out of things really quickly. I'm I'm curious to know

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01:52:03,080 --> 01:52:07,960
Speaker 1: how many times how many times CJ. Stroud's name was

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Speaker 1: ahead of Bryce Young's name on the war room draft

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Speaker 1: board for the Carolina Panthers, Like, how many times did

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01:52:14,160 --> 01:52:17,519
Speaker 1: that flip flop? Were they sure when they traded with

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01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:20,120
Speaker 1: the Bears did they know they were taking Young? How

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01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:23,200
Speaker 1: many times was Stroud over Young? Like? How many people

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Speaker 1: in that?

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01:52:23,560 --> 01:52:27,560
Speaker 2: They insist, and Frank Reike had a big say in

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01:52:27,640 --> 01:52:31,080
Speaker 2: this for Carolina, and he insisted there was never a

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01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:35,960
Speaker 2: conversation jon Bryce Young. Bryce Young is the guy well,

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01:52:36,160 --> 01:52:38,519
Speaker 2: and I may still be the guy down the way.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yes you're right, But my point is, what else

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01:52:40,800 --> 01:52:43,599
Speaker 1: is he supposed to say? I want the truth. If

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01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:45,840
Speaker 1: I could tie these people to a chair and give

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01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:48,519
Speaker 1: them truths here and say, tell me the real truth?

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01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:51,880
Speaker 1: How many times was c J. Stroud? Actually, because that's

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01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:54,080
Speaker 1: the nightmare that you're you're living through.

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01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:56,160
Speaker 3: Does Frank Reich walk the plank?

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01:52:56,240 --> 01:52:59,479
Speaker 2: I mean, if they if if Houston right now is

2285
01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:03,680
Speaker 2: in the play off mix, right and Demiko Ryans who

2286
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:06,320
Speaker 2: everyone predicted, if he ever gets an opportunity to say, hey,

2287
01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:08,800
Speaker 2: coach is going to show that he knows what he's doing,

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01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:10,000
Speaker 2: He's doing exactly that.

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Speaker 3: Frank Reich.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you have the Carolina Panthers, you're like,

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01:53:14,840 --> 01:53:17,120
Speaker 2: we you sold us on Bryce Young?

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Speaker 1: All right? So check this out. So frank Reich is

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01:53:22,680 --> 01:53:26,519
Speaker 1: still being paid some money by the Colts. Wow, okay.

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01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:32,160
Speaker 1: And also he agreed to reportedly a four year contract

2295
01:53:32,200 --> 01:53:35,320
Speaker 1: with the Carolina Panthers. Yes, so Frank Reig's a very

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01:53:35,439 --> 01:53:40,760
Speaker 1: rich man based on the hastiness of Jim Irsay and

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01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:44,240
Speaker 1: the commitment that the Carolina Panthers have made. So I

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01:53:44,280 --> 01:53:46,719
Speaker 1: don't think he's going to lose a ton of sleep

2299
01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:49,320
Speaker 1: either way over it. But does he walk the plank?

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01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:51,919
Speaker 1: I would say that would be a very expensive decision

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01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:57,200
Speaker 1: for Carolina. Remember the Raiders as as as off as

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01:53:57,240 --> 01:54:00,519
Speaker 1: things looked last year with Josh McDaniels Mark Davis until

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01:54:00,600 --> 01:54:03,200
Speaker 1: mid season this year before he made the ultimate decision

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01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:06,360
Speaker 1: to can them. And he's on the hook after making

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01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:10,559
Speaker 1: a bevy of moves for over eighty million dollars in

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01:54:10,720 --> 01:54:14,960
Speaker 1: salaries walking out the door. So it's expensive the fire

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01:54:14,960 --> 01:54:16,040
Speaker 1: ahead coach, it is.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, by the way the Buccaneers have tied up their

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01:54:18,439 --> 01:54:22,360
Speaker 2: game against the Houstons, that's white with a short run

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01:54:22,360 --> 01:54:25,679
Speaker 2: a second of the game, So thirty thirty inside twelve

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01:54:25,680 --> 01:54:28,040
Speaker 2: minutes ago in the fourth quarter, I get a sense

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01:54:28,080 --> 01:54:31,080
Speaker 2: we're gonna have some exciting finishes don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

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01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:36,920
Speaker 9: Second and goal from a one yard line, hand them

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01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:38,960
Speaker 9: all off on the gut Coach White, He's got it.

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01:54:39,120 --> 01:54:43,000
Speaker 9: Touchdown Tampa Bay Forrashan White's got his second rushing touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Of the day.

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Speaker 2: That's ninety eight Rock Buccaneers Radio Network. That game tied

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01:54:47,640 --> 01:54:51,520
Speaker 2: at thirty each ten minutes ago in the fourth quarter,

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01:54:51,680 --> 01:54:54,320
Speaker 2: Bucks and the Texans once again, you're listening to Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Red Zone Radio. Steve Hartman, Rich Hornberger with you.

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01:54:57,440 --> 01:55:00,960
Speaker 2: We are live from the tire Rack Dot Studios. All right,

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01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:03,600
Speaker 2: let's update you now on seven games that are being

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Speaker 2: played right now around the NFL. A couple of games

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01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:10,920
Speaker 2: absolute blowouts. Today Ravens leading the Seahawks, who saw this coming,

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01:55:11,040 --> 01:55:15,080
Speaker 2: thirty seven to three with inside six minutes to go

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Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter. In that game, also the Browns

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01:55:18,840 --> 01:55:23,080
Speaker 2: just the Cardinals. It's like a bye game really, Brown's

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01:55:23,160 --> 01:55:26,240
Speaker 2: leading the Cardinals twenty seven a thing against six minutes

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Speaker 2: to go in the fourth quarter. The other games, Rich

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01:55:29,720 --> 01:55:33,360
Speaker 2: are all within reach. The Packers are leading the Rams

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01:55:33,400 --> 01:55:36,640
Speaker 2: thirteen to three, and they have the ball in the

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01:55:36,680 --> 01:55:41,480
Speaker 2: red zone, so the Packers seem safe. No Matthew Stafford today.

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01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:44,960
Speaker 2: So the Rams offense is a big zero. But the

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Speaker 2: other games, Vikings leading the Falcons twenty four to twenty one,

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01:55:49,040 --> 01:55:50,760
Speaker 2: eight and a half minutes to go in the fourth quarter,

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01:55:50,840 --> 01:55:54,280
Speaker 2: they are commanders over the Patriots twenty to seventeen. We

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Speaker 2: got three and a half minutes to go in that game,

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01:55:57,320 --> 01:56:00,800
Speaker 2: Bears trailing the Saints twenty four to seven teen three

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01:56:00,840 --> 01:56:03,560
Speaker 2: minutes to go there, and as we mentioned, Bucks and

2341
01:56:03,680 --> 01:56:06,960
Speaker 2: Texans tied at thirty with nine a half minutes ago,

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01:56:07,040 --> 01:56:10,600
Speaker 2: So we have a chance to have one or more exciting.

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Speaker 1: Finishes, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: Are you okay?

2345
01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:16,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm choking on a nut.

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01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:17,640
Speaker 9: Yeah.

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01:56:17,720 --> 01:56:21,560
Speaker 3: One thing you don't do in this business is eat nuts.

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Speaker 2: You always say that, but I do, and I do

2349
01:56:24,200 --> 01:56:27,240
Speaker 2: because you know where it affects me more is television,

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01:56:27,640 --> 01:56:30,960
Speaker 2: Well I love it. I love to you know, like

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01:56:31,040 --> 01:56:33,880
Speaker 2: mixed nuts or you know, cash is whatever it is. Right.

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01:56:34,160 --> 01:56:36,600
Speaker 1: I just had a handful of almonds, and I'll tell

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01:56:36,640 --> 01:56:38,720
Speaker 1: you what, I'm fine. I was just trying to swallow

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01:56:38,840 --> 01:56:40,840
Speaker 1: too fast because I was trying to talk, and then

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01:56:40,880 --> 01:56:42,240
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, boom caught me.

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Speaker 3: Almonds are safer because they're not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they say, is the nut I should avoid peanuts?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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01:56:51,160 --> 01:56:52,600
Speaker 3: There it is not when you're broadcast.

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01:56:53,800 --> 01:56:56,400
Speaker 2: By the way, Green Bay has pretty much put this

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01:56:56,440 --> 01:57:00,839
Speaker 2: one away. Jordan Love a touchdown, Pa asked the Musgrove

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01:57:01,040 --> 01:57:03,440
Speaker 2: a Muskrave for the uh touchdown?

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01:57:03,440 --> 01:57:03,680
Speaker 12: There?

2364
01:57:03,760 --> 01:57:05,920
Speaker 2: So the Packers now lead the Rams by a score

2365
01:57:06,000 --> 01:57:10,240
Speaker 2: of twenty to three. Musgrave with the touchdown? There again,

2366
01:57:10,400 --> 01:57:12,880
Speaker 2: Brett Rippin at quarterback for the Rams today.

2367
01:57:12,640 --> 01:57:13,080
Speaker 3: Don't ask?

2368
01:57:13,120 --> 01:57:16,040
Speaker 2: And I know twenty two hundred three yards, no touchdowns

2369
01:57:16,080 --> 01:57:17,160
Speaker 2: and one pick.

2370
01:57:17,240 --> 01:57:19,360
Speaker 13: A little bit of a rough day there, no quick Steve,

2371
01:57:19,400 --> 01:57:21,240
Speaker 13: I know, I know, we don't do field goals on

2372
01:57:21,280 --> 01:57:25,080
Speaker 13: the show. Yes, but the Texans just kicked a field

2373
01:57:25,160 --> 01:57:28,520
Speaker 13: goal with Ogun balle.

2374
01:57:28,360 --> 01:57:34,760
Speaker 2: Yeah not a kicker, Wow, kicked a twenty nine yard

2375
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:38,560
Speaker 2: field goal. The kicker is hurt for the Texans. So

2376
01:57:39,200 --> 01:57:43,880
Speaker 2: o goom bwally twenty nine yard field goal in the

2377
01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:46,040
Speaker 2: Texans have a thirty three to thirty leads still eight

2378
01:57:46,040 --> 01:57:47,360
Speaker 2: and a half minutes to go in that game.

2379
01:57:48,080 --> 01:57:50,920
Speaker 1: Where like, okay, so where else does he play on

2380
01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:51,560
Speaker 1: this roster?

2381
01:57:52,160 --> 01:57:55,160
Speaker 3: Is a running back as he's a running My gosh.

2382
01:57:55,280 --> 01:57:59,640
Speaker 2: Now people don't understand about rich Ornberger's background as a kicker,

2383
01:58:00,160 --> 01:58:02,040
Speaker 2: you actually were a kicker.

2384
01:58:02,560 --> 01:58:05,440
Speaker 1: I was. I was. I was a backup kicker. So

2385
01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:08,360
Speaker 1: the story goes like this, and it's a quick story.

2386
01:58:09,200 --> 01:58:12,600
Speaker 1: Early du Set was a number two wide receiver on

2387
01:58:12,640 --> 01:58:15,720
Speaker 1: an Arizona Cardinals team back in twenty twelve. I was

2388
01:58:15,760 --> 01:58:19,080
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman on that team. Kevin Spencer was a

2389
01:58:19,120 --> 01:58:23,280
Speaker 1: special teams coach and was leaning on Early du Set

2390
01:58:23,440 --> 01:58:25,800
Speaker 1: to be his backup kicker because he had done it,

2391
01:58:25,840 --> 01:58:28,040
Speaker 1: I guess, either at the college level or elsewhere in

2392
01:58:28,080 --> 01:58:31,920
Speaker 1: the NFL, but he refused to practice ever as an

2393
01:58:31,960 --> 01:58:35,120
Speaker 1: emergency kicker. Basically, the only way you'll ever get foisted

2394
01:58:35,120 --> 01:58:38,480
Speaker 1: into action is like we're seeing in Houston, where in

2395
01:58:38,680 --> 01:58:40,800
Speaker 1: game the kicker goes down. They need to have a

2396
01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:43,400
Speaker 1: plan B, like any coach needs to always have a

2397
01:58:43,400 --> 01:58:46,680
Speaker 1: plan B. So I ended up telling Kevin Spencer I

2398
01:58:46,720 --> 01:58:48,480
Speaker 1: was like, well, I was a punter in high school.

2399
01:58:48,960 --> 01:58:50,560
Speaker 1: I was like, I'll be your kicker. I'll be your

2400
01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:54,320
Speaker 1: emergency kicker. So sure enough, after practice that day, he

2401
01:58:54,400 --> 01:58:57,720
Speaker 1: gave me a workout. I went eight for ten. Wow,

2402
01:58:57,920 --> 01:59:01,560
Speaker 1: variety of ranges distancing hash Mark said.

2403
01:59:01,360 --> 01:59:03,440
Speaker 3: A second, there's a difference been doing in a punter

2404
01:59:03,760 --> 01:59:04,480
Speaker 3: and a kicker.

2405
01:59:04,680 --> 01:59:07,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just understood how it all works.

2406
01:59:07,200 --> 01:59:09,200
Speaker 2: And I told how'd he get the ball airborne? That's

2407
01:59:09,200 --> 01:59:09,920
Speaker 2: always the key.

2408
01:59:10,200 --> 01:59:12,400
Speaker 1: It's just all about hitting the correct quadrant.

2409
01:59:12,440 --> 01:59:13,240
Speaker 3: Launch angle.

2410
01:59:13,360 --> 01:59:15,280
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, dude, it's all about launch angle.

2411
01:59:15,480 --> 01:59:17,320
Speaker 3: Oh you did soccer style?

2412
01:59:17,760 --> 01:59:18,760
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah?

2413
01:59:18,800 --> 01:59:19,080
Speaker 3: Really?

2414
01:59:19,240 --> 01:59:21,160
Speaker 1: Oh no. I would paste it out just like a kicker.

2415
01:59:21,160 --> 01:59:23,120
Speaker 1: I would take two steps back and that would take

2416
01:59:23,160 --> 01:59:25,720
Speaker 1: one to the side. I would plant my back leg

2417
01:59:25,800 --> 01:59:28,360
Speaker 1: my swing leg, and then I would take one two

2418
01:59:28,400 --> 01:59:31,200
Speaker 1: steps swing through the ball and I could pure it.

2419
01:59:31,240 --> 01:59:31,400
Speaker 2: Man.

2420
01:59:31,480 --> 01:59:33,480
Speaker 1: I was pretty good. And so anyway, so I go

2421
01:59:33,560 --> 01:59:36,000
Speaker 1: through this kicking drill pre practice, and he was like,

2422
01:59:36,040 --> 01:59:38,920
Speaker 1: all right, Well, if anything happens to Jay Feely, who

2423
01:59:38,960 --> 01:59:41,600
Speaker 1: was our kicker, he was like, you're in. And I'm

2424
01:59:41,640 --> 01:59:44,080
Speaker 1: like awesome. And so I just spent the rest of

2425
01:59:44,120 --> 01:59:46,600
Speaker 1: the season praying that Jay Pheely got the flu or

2426
01:59:46,640 --> 01:59:49,880
Speaker 1: something like midgame just started violently throwing up and I

2427
01:59:49,920 --> 01:59:51,920
Speaker 1: would get an opportunity to just get out there and

2428
01:59:52,040 --> 01:59:55,520
Speaker 1: kick one just extra boy and field goal, wow, kickoff.

2429
01:59:55,520 --> 01:59:56,560
Speaker 1: I would do it all so.

2430
01:59:56,680 --> 01:59:59,160
Speaker 2: You would be on the old time NFL scoring list,

2431
01:59:59,280 --> 01:59:59,920
Speaker 2: at least list.

2432
02:00:00,400 --> 02:00:02,120
Speaker 3: I have never scored one point now I know you

2433
02:00:02,200 --> 02:00:03,360
Speaker 3: never scored out there worse.

2434
02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:07,000
Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of scoring, the Patriots need to score.

2435
02:00:07,680 --> 02:00:11,200
Speaker 2: They are trailing the Commanders now twenty to seventeen. At

2436
02:00:11,200 --> 02:00:13,840
Speaker 2: one point, New England led this game seventeen to ten.

2437
02:00:15,120 --> 02:00:16,240
Speaker 2: Once again, Sam.

2438
02:00:16,000 --> 02:00:18,760
Speaker 3: Howe, I think at the very least, the.

2439
02:00:18,720 --> 02:00:21,680
Speaker 2: Commanders have found themselves a franchise quarterback.

2440
02:00:22,480 --> 02:00:25,000
Speaker 1: I think you would say, at the very least.

2441
02:00:24,800 --> 02:00:27,200
Speaker 3: Well, it's not a very good team.

2442
02:00:27,440 --> 02:00:29,400
Speaker 1: You're you're sold on him though, that he can lead

2443
02:00:29,440 --> 02:00:30,960
Speaker 1: this franchise into the future.

2444
02:00:31,320 --> 02:00:35,280
Speaker 2: I think Sam Howe's got it, I really do. I

2445
02:00:35,280 --> 02:00:37,640
Speaker 2: don't know at three hundred and twenty five yards passing. Again,

2446
02:00:37,680 --> 02:00:40,120
Speaker 2: Today's had some pretty good games, all right, which games

2447
02:00:40,240 --> 02:00:42,200
Speaker 2: actually come down to a big finish?

2448
02:00:42,400 --> 02:00:44,360
Speaker 3: Keep it here on Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

2449
02:00:47,840 --> 02:00:51,760
Speaker 2: The running back for the lead, snappers down, the kickers off.

2450
02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:55,640
Speaker 12: But it's good story, a good bally for three.

2451
02:00:55,920 --> 02:01:04,240
Speaker 3: The Texans are packet front, Are you kiddy? That's the

2452
02:01:04,280 --> 02:01:06,440
Speaker 3: Texans radio network. You heard it right?

2453
02:01:06,560 --> 02:01:10,720
Speaker 2: A running back kick the field goal for the Texans

2454
02:01:10,800 --> 02:01:13,640
Speaker 2: as they currently lead the Buccaneers thirty three to thirty.

2455
02:01:14,320 --> 02:01:16,160
Speaker 2: That with four and a half minutes to go in

2456
02:01:16,240 --> 02:01:18,960
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio

2457
02:01:19,040 --> 02:01:22,040
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Speaker 1: All right.

2463
02:01:34,160 --> 02:01:37,960
Speaker 2: One game we're watching right now, the Commanders and the Patriots.

2464
02:01:37,960 --> 02:01:41,560
Speaker 2: Patriots have the ball trailing by three, about a minute

2465
02:01:41,560 --> 02:01:43,320
Speaker 2: and a half to go right now, and the Pats

2466
02:01:43,320 --> 02:01:45,440
Speaker 2: are on the move. Mac Jones trying to come up

2467
02:01:45,440 --> 02:01:48,760
Speaker 2: with a way to win this game and first down

2468
02:01:48,840 --> 02:01:51,240
Speaker 2: pass third, about where are they right now?

2469
02:01:51,280 --> 02:01:52,440
Speaker 3: They are at the.

2470
02:01:52,280 --> 02:01:55,000
Speaker 2: Forty five yard line, their own forty five yard line

2471
02:01:55,000 --> 02:01:57,280
Speaker 2: at the very least here Rich obviously trying to get

2472
02:01:57,280 --> 02:01:59,760
Speaker 2: into a field goal position to send this game potentially

2473
02:01:59,840 --> 02:02:00,960
Speaker 2: in to overtime.

2474
02:02:01,720 --> 02:02:02,320
Speaker 3: This is big.

2475
02:02:02,480 --> 02:02:05,080
Speaker 2: I mean again, the Patriots come into this game the

2476
02:02:05,120 --> 02:02:09,160
Speaker 2: only two and sixteen in the AFC, sitting alone sixteen

2477
02:02:09,200 --> 02:02:11,880
Speaker 2: out of sixteen teams in the AFC. You're at home

2478
02:02:12,320 --> 02:02:16,200
Speaker 2: against a mediocre Commander's team. You need to win this game,

2479
02:02:16,240 --> 02:02:18,160
Speaker 2: and let's see if mac Jones can pull this thing out.

2480
02:02:18,440 --> 02:02:22,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, and we've seen mac Jones look better. Last week,

2481
02:02:22,640 --> 02:02:25,160
Speaker 1: he looked much better. So they're riding off of more

2482
02:02:25,200 --> 02:02:28,200
Speaker 1: confidence than they've had in a while and mac Jones

2483
02:02:28,200 --> 02:02:30,880
Speaker 1: so far today it hasn't been perfect, but well, yes

2484
02:02:31,080 --> 02:02:34,480
Speaker 1: that pass, Yeah, that was not a good pass. That

2485
02:02:34,640 --> 02:02:38,400
Speaker 1: was not a good pass. The Bills victory was a

2486
02:02:38,560 --> 02:02:42,720
Speaker 1: short lift lived confidence boost before heading into the teeth

2487
02:02:42,800 --> 02:02:48,000
Speaker 1: of that Miami Dolphins offense on the road. But even

2488
02:02:48,040 --> 02:02:51,360
Speaker 1: in that game with the pick, mac Jones looks serviceable.

2489
02:02:51,560 --> 02:02:54,600
Speaker 1: It's just when your defense gives up thirty one points, which,

2490
02:02:54,640 --> 02:02:57,840
Speaker 1: by the way, not typical of a Belichick defense. Giving

2491
02:02:57,920 --> 02:02:59,760
Speaker 1: up that many points. Has happened a couple of times

2492
02:02:59,840 --> 02:03:03,880
Speaker 1: this year. The Patriots are only able to muster seventeen

2493
02:03:03,960 --> 02:03:06,080
Speaker 1: and they end up losing that one before this one.

2494
02:03:06,280 --> 02:03:08,520
Speaker 1: You can't lose against the Commanders if you even want

2495
02:03:08,560 --> 02:03:11,120
Speaker 1: to have a glimmer of hope here moving forward.

2496
02:03:10,880 --> 02:03:12,640
Speaker 3: All right, So here's what they're facing right now.

2497
02:03:12,720 --> 02:03:16,280
Speaker 2: It's going to be a fourth and four and they

2498
02:03:16,320 --> 02:03:19,920
Speaker 2: are at the forty nine yard line of the Commanders.

2499
02:03:19,960 --> 02:03:23,040
Speaker 2: So fourth and four, there's a minute seventeen to go,

2500
02:03:23,640 --> 02:03:26,320
Speaker 2: and they're not wasting time. They've snapped the ball and

2501
02:03:26,400 --> 02:03:29,880
Speaker 2: this is it game on the line? Quick pass? Is

2502
02:03:29,880 --> 02:03:30,879
Speaker 2: is that caught?

2503
02:03:31,480 --> 02:03:33,640
Speaker 3: There? You are is ruling? It is a catch.

2504
02:03:33,920 --> 02:03:36,040
Speaker 1: Wow, get on the ball as quickly as you can

2505
02:03:36,120 --> 02:03:38,000
Speaker 1: and get another play round if I were you.

2506
02:03:38,280 --> 02:03:43,080
Speaker 2: Okay, So no, he caught that ball. The replay clearly

2507
02:03:43,160 --> 02:03:45,280
Speaker 2: caught it. So the ball's out at the forty three

2508
02:03:45,360 --> 02:03:48,360
Speaker 2: yard line. The ball has been snapped. The Patriots have

2509
02:03:48,560 --> 02:03:49,680
Speaker 2: no timeouts.

2510
02:03:49,880 --> 02:03:52,480
Speaker 1: Smith Schuster with the reception, by the way, his sixth

2511
02:03:52,480 --> 02:03:54,240
Speaker 1: of the day, fifty one yards.

2512
02:03:54,120 --> 02:03:56,840
Speaker 2: By the way, So they have no timeouts, which is

2513
02:03:56,880 --> 02:03:59,600
Speaker 2: why it's so frantic. Mac Jones just ran out of

2514
02:03:59,640 --> 02:04:02,080
Speaker 2: bounds on first down to stop the clock. So there's

2515
02:04:02,160 --> 02:04:06,280
Speaker 2: now thirty eight seconds to go and they are at

2516
02:04:06,440 --> 02:04:11,560
Speaker 2: the Washington forty one yard line, so still you need

2517
02:04:11,600 --> 02:04:16,360
Speaker 2: some more yards here. Chad Rylan is the kicker for

2518
02:04:16,440 --> 02:04:18,560
Speaker 2: the Patriots. He has a career long of fifty one.

2519
02:04:18,640 --> 02:04:21,240
Speaker 2: So they're at the forty one yard line, thirty eight

2520
02:04:21,320 --> 02:04:24,920
Speaker 2: seconds to go, second and eight. Jones throws over the

2521
02:04:24,960 --> 02:04:27,800
Speaker 2: middle and it's intercepted, and that is the game.

2522
02:04:27,880 --> 02:04:30,800
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, that is the game.

2523
02:04:31,120 --> 02:04:35,600
Speaker 2: That's ad That is it, and the Patriots will fall

2524
02:04:35,720 --> 02:04:40,920
Speaker 2: to two and seven, one in four at home.

2525
02:04:41,280 --> 02:04:42,160
Speaker 3: This year.

2526
02:04:42,400 --> 02:04:43,080
Speaker 1: That's brutal.

2527
02:04:43,200 --> 02:04:46,040
Speaker 2: Now do you want to revise your playoff prediction for

2528
02:04:46,160 --> 02:04:47,000
Speaker 2: the Patriots?

2529
02:04:47,480 --> 02:04:54,680
Speaker 1: Listen, the inclusion of the Commander's victory nullifies that that idea.

2530
02:04:54,760 --> 02:04:57,240
Speaker 1: I mean, they needed to win this one. They need

2531
02:04:57,280 --> 02:05:00,040
Speaker 1: to win next week. They needed to win on the

2532
02:05:00,240 --> 02:05:04,600
Speaker 1: road in LA against the Chargers if they even want

2533
02:05:04,680 --> 02:05:06,880
Speaker 1: to have a chance. Because you win those three, you're

2534
02:05:06,920 --> 02:05:07,520
Speaker 1: five and six.

2535
02:05:08,240 --> 02:05:09,160
Speaker 3: Did he intercept that?

2536
02:05:09,560 --> 02:05:10,040
Speaker 9: No way?

2537
02:05:10,360 --> 02:05:11,680
Speaker 3: Look at look at the replay.

2538
02:05:11,720 --> 02:05:15,520
Speaker 2: It looks like Martin the ball hit the ground as

2539
02:05:15,560 --> 02:05:16,680
Speaker 2: he was corralling it.

2540
02:05:17,040 --> 02:05:19,800
Speaker 3: There might be a did you guys see what I saw?

2541
02:05:20,040 --> 02:05:20,280
Speaker 15: Yeah?

2542
02:05:20,360 --> 02:05:21,560
Speaker 3: Smith, Martin's sort of.

2543
02:05:21,560 --> 02:05:23,400
Speaker 1: Stud what's that? Smith Schuster?

2544
02:05:24,080 --> 02:05:27,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I went right through his hands. But anyway, but Martin.

2545
02:05:27,400 --> 02:05:31,760
Speaker 1: No, no, I mean, are you kidding me? Yeah?

2546
02:05:31,840 --> 02:05:34,720
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, So who are they? I mean

2547
02:05:34,760 --> 02:05:38,280
Speaker 2: it's a turnover. So that's an automatically reviewed play. But

2548
02:05:38,360 --> 02:05:42,160
Speaker 2: I thought when Martin went to the ground on the interception.

2549
02:05:41,880 --> 02:05:44,280
Speaker 1: He didn't he didn't possess the football.

2550
02:05:44,360 --> 02:05:46,800
Speaker 2: I thought it got a little loose there and the

2551
02:05:46,920 --> 02:05:48,720
Speaker 2: tip of the ball may have hit the ground.

2552
02:05:48,760 --> 02:05:49,520
Speaker 1: Well that's the thing.

2553
02:05:49,640 --> 02:05:52,880
Speaker 2: You cannot use the They are not going to review it.

2554
02:05:52,960 --> 02:05:55,040
Speaker 2: And they are taking a knee and this game is

2555
02:05:55,080 --> 02:05:57,960
Speaker 2: officially so that's it. Last play of the game, all right.

2556
02:05:58,000 --> 02:06:01,800
Speaker 2: So the Patriots falled at two and seven, cementing their

2557
02:06:01,880 --> 02:06:06,280
Speaker 2: slot in the bottom of the standings in the AFC. Meanwhile,

2558
02:06:06,400 --> 02:06:09,640
Speaker 2: the Vikings right now trail the Falcons. Can we get

2559
02:06:09,640 --> 02:06:12,120
Speaker 2: this game going there? It is all right, twenty eight

2560
02:06:12,120 --> 02:06:15,440
Speaker 2: to twenty four. Falcons are leading the Vikings. This has

2561
02:06:15,480 --> 02:06:18,360
Speaker 2: been an unbelievable game because Josh Dobbs, who was just

2562
02:06:18,400 --> 02:06:22,000
Speaker 2: picked up by the Vikings, was forced into action when

2563
02:06:22,080 --> 02:06:25,440
Speaker 2: Jaron Hall, the rookie, got hurt. Vikings have the ball

2564
02:06:25,520 --> 02:06:28,320
Speaker 2: right now, a minute nineteen to go in the fourth quarter,

2565
02:06:28,880 --> 02:06:31,240
Speaker 2: and the Vikings are trailing the Falcons by a score

2566
02:06:31,320 --> 02:06:34,480
Speaker 2: of twenty eight to twenty four. Dobs that's thrown for

2567
02:06:34,520 --> 02:06:36,800
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty two yards in a score. He's

2568
02:06:36,840 --> 02:06:40,920
Speaker 2: run for forty one yards and a score, and they

2569
02:06:40,920 --> 02:06:43,400
Speaker 2: have a chance minute twelve to go.

2570
02:06:43,560 --> 02:06:45,920
Speaker 3: Right now, let's see where they are yardage wise.

2571
02:06:46,000 --> 02:06:48,480
Speaker 1: Right now, they're at the Minnesota thirty nine.

2572
02:06:48,840 --> 02:06:51,200
Speaker 4: By the way, Jordan adisotta from the amendous catch to

2573
02:06:51,280 --> 02:06:52,080
Speaker 4: keep this drive alive.

2574
02:06:52,360 --> 02:06:55,480
Speaker 2: So they're at the Atlanta thirty seven yard line is

2575
02:06:55,480 --> 02:06:57,480
Speaker 2: where they are right now. So they're at the Atlanta

2576
02:06:57,520 --> 02:07:00,240
Speaker 2: thirty seven yard line, but they need a touchdown. The

2577
02:07:00,360 --> 02:07:01,960
Speaker 2: field goal is not going to help them. There's a

2578
02:07:02,120 --> 02:07:06,800
Speaker 2: nice pass by Dobbs that did catch it. They call

2579
02:07:06,880 --> 02:07:08,040
Speaker 2: that a complete or incomplete.

2580
02:07:08,200 --> 02:07:11,760
Speaker 1: He was looking for Hawkinson, right, Yeah, I think that's incomplete.

2581
02:07:12,840 --> 02:07:14,920
Speaker 2: So it looked like he had caught the ball, but

2582
02:07:15,000 --> 02:07:17,680
Speaker 2: did he hold onto the ball and he did not,

2583
02:07:17,840 --> 02:07:20,200
Speaker 2: all right, So that's an incomplete pass, all right.

2584
02:07:20,320 --> 02:07:22,960
Speaker 1: So, by the way, that Addison catch, to Chris's point,

2585
02:07:23,000 --> 02:07:27,560
Speaker 1: that was unbelievable. It had to be reviewed and the

2586
02:07:27,640 --> 02:07:31,200
Speaker 1: completion ruling was upheld. But that, I mean, Jordan Addison

2587
02:07:31,360 --> 02:07:33,800
Speaker 1: had what a draft pick by the Vikings.

2588
02:07:33,920 --> 02:07:36,839
Speaker 2: By the way, in the meantime, Buccaneers trailing the Texans

2589
02:07:36,880 --> 02:07:39,120
Speaker 2: thirty three to thirty, just had the two minute warning.

2590
02:07:39,440 --> 02:07:42,080
Speaker 2: Have a third and eighteen right now from their own

2591
02:07:42,240 --> 02:07:47,600
Speaker 2: forty three yard line, and there's a penalty flag. Meanwhile,

2592
02:07:47,880 --> 02:07:51,360
Speaker 2: Dobbs has run out of bounds. I'm trying to do

2593
02:07:51,400 --> 02:07:55,000
Speaker 2: two games of once, yea, yeah, So the Vikings now

2594
02:07:55,040 --> 02:07:57,800
Speaker 2: face a third and seven at the Atlanta thirty four

2595
02:07:57,880 --> 02:08:01,120
Speaker 2: yard line, down by four, So Tampa comes out of

2596
02:08:01,200 --> 02:08:04,920
Speaker 2: a two minute warning with a third and eighteen at

2597
02:08:04,960 --> 02:08:07,840
Speaker 2: their own forty three and you get an illegal procedure.

2598
02:08:08,080 --> 02:08:08,720
Speaker 1: Yikes.

2599
02:08:09,040 --> 02:08:12,280
Speaker 3: So now it's third and twenty three from their own

2600
02:08:12,360 --> 02:08:14,560
Speaker 3: thirty eight yard line. How does that happen out of

2601
02:08:14,560 --> 02:08:15,680
Speaker 3: a timeout.

2602
02:08:15,320 --> 02:08:17,960
Speaker 1: Trailing by three? And yeah, you have all that time

2603
02:08:18,000 --> 02:08:19,720
Speaker 1: to figure things out, my mean, yes, And.

2604
02:08:19,760 --> 02:08:22,360
Speaker 2: They're trying to get into field goal position here five

2605
02:08:22,440 --> 02:08:24,480
Speaker 2: yards critical at this point.

2606
02:08:24,600 --> 02:08:28,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm guessing Baker in the huddle, being a veteran,

2607
02:08:28,480 --> 02:08:30,200
Speaker 1: was like, hey, listen, let's go hard, gun.

2608
02:08:30,440 --> 02:08:32,640
Speaker 2: Big pass by Baker Mayfield. But it's going to be

2609
02:08:32,720 --> 02:08:34,960
Speaker 2: short of a first down. But down to the forty

2610
02:08:35,040 --> 02:08:38,120
Speaker 2: one yard line of the Texans, they're still not in

2611
02:08:38,200 --> 02:08:39,000
Speaker 2: field goal range.

2612
02:08:39,040 --> 02:08:40,000
Speaker 3: Fourth down coming.

2613
02:08:39,840 --> 02:08:42,640
Speaker 1: Up, and they got two timeouts left, so if this

2614
02:08:42,800 --> 02:08:45,440
Speaker 1: drive starts stalling at any point, they can go to

2615
02:08:45,480 --> 02:08:48,360
Speaker 1: the timeouts here preserve the clock. But there's one fifty

2616
02:08:48,440 --> 02:08:51,520
Speaker 1: five left, so they got plenty of time to work

2617
02:08:51,560 --> 02:08:53,640
Speaker 1: with here to score, all right.

2618
02:08:54,000 --> 02:08:57,040
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, in the Vikings Falcons game, or inside a minute

2619
02:08:57,040 --> 02:08:59,760
Speaker 2: to go, fifty two seconds left, and the Vikings are

2620
02:08:59,760 --> 02:09:02,800
Speaker 2: at the Atlanta thirty four yard line with a fourth

2621
02:09:03,000 --> 02:09:06,080
Speaker 2: and seven again, a field goal does them no good.

2622
02:09:06,480 --> 02:09:09,880
Speaker 2: So fourth and seven for josh Dobbs and we'll see

2623
02:09:09,880 --> 02:09:13,680
Speaker 2: what happens there. Meanwhile, the fourth down play for the Bucks,

2624
02:09:13,680 --> 02:09:16,360
Speaker 2: fourth and two, and Baker Mayfield scrambles.

2625
02:09:15,920 --> 02:09:16,920
Speaker 3: And gets the first down.

2626
02:09:17,240 --> 02:09:17,640
Speaker 1: Unreal.

2627
02:09:17,760 --> 02:09:20,680
Speaker 2: And meanwhile Dobbs scrambles and he gets a first down.

2628
02:09:20,680 --> 02:09:25,320
Speaker 2: And more so, both quarterbacks scramble on fourth down and

2629
02:09:25,560 --> 02:09:27,160
Speaker 2: both get first downs.

2630
02:09:27,440 --> 02:09:31,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Dobbs now he needed to do it himself

2631
02:09:31,840 --> 02:09:36,120
Speaker 1: because in their third down efficiency, let alone fourth down,

2632
02:09:36,280 --> 02:09:39,480
Speaker 1: they're six of fifteen so far today trying to throw

2633
02:09:39,520 --> 02:09:41,280
Speaker 1: the football the majority of the times.

2634
02:09:41,320 --> 02:09:43,160
Speaker 3: Didn't we say at the beginning when Dobbs came in,

2635
02:09:43,280 --> 02:09:43,920
Speaker 3: just run the ball.

2636
02:09:44,120 --> 02:09:47,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, honestly a lot of play auction roll.

2637
02:09:47,600 --> 02:09:50,520
Speaker 2: He ran all the way down to the twelve yard line.

2638
02:09:50,600 --> 02:09:54,000
Speaker 2: Right now, fifty one seconds to go. So again, the

2639
02:09:54,080 --> 02:09:57,680
Speaker 2: Vikings need a touchdown, and thanks to Joshua Dobbs, they

2640
02:09:57,720 --> 02:09:58,560
Speaker 2: got a shot here.

2641
02:09:58,800 --> 02:10:00,360
Speaker 1: They absolutely do all right.

2642
02:10:00,360 --> 02:10:03,640
Speaker 2: Thirty nine seconds officially on the clock right now, Falcons

2643
02:10:03,720 --> 02:10:07,200
Speaker 2: lead twenty eight to twenty four. Dobbs is looking to pass.

2644
02:10:07,280 --> 02:10:10,720
Speaker 2: He's got time and it's incomplete. So a second and

2645
02:10:10,800 --> 02:10:14,000
Speaker 2: ten thirty four seconds left. Meanwhile, Baker Mayfield also did

2646
02:10:14,000 --> 02:10:18,200
Speaker 2: a scramble and the Bucks situation different. They can tie

2647
02:10:18,200 --> 02:10:21,120
Speaker 2: this game with a field goal a minute.

2648
02:10:20,840 --> 02:10:23,000
Speaker 3: Two to go. Houston leading Tampa by.

2649
02:10:22,840 --> 02:10:25,880
Speaker 2: A score of thirty three to thirty, and the Bucks

2650
02:10:25,880 --> 02:10:28,840
Speaker 2: have a first down at the Houston thirty six yard line.

2651
02:10:28,920 --> 02:10:32,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, now they're pretty close, if not within field goal

2652
02:10:32,440 --> 02:10:35,360
Speaker 1: range here. So they've got a throttle back and start

2653
02:10:35,360 --> 02:10:37,280
Speaker 1: thinking about how much time they want to leave the

2654
02:10:37,320 --> 02:10:40,840
Speaker 1: Houston Texans. So you take that time out, you catch

2655
02:10:40,880 --> 02:10:41,400
Speaker 1: your breath.

2656
02:10:41,280 --> 02:10:43,960
Speaker 2: A little bit, big run for Houston inside the thirty

2657
02:10:44,080 --> 02:10:46,720
Speaker 2: twenty eight yard line, so they've got in field goal

2658
02:10:46,800 --> 02:10:47,480
Speaker 2: range for sure.

2659
02:10:47,560 --> 02:10:48,960
Speaker 3: Now, meanwhile, do the.

2660
02:10:48,880 --> 02:10:50,480
Speaker 1: Box you mean for the Bucks the Bucks.

2661
02:10:50,520 --> 02:10:52,600
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Dobbs throws over in the middle of the pass

2662
02:10:52,680 --> 02:10:55,760
Speaker 2: is complete down to the six yard line. The Vikings

2663
02:10:55,800 --> 02:10:59,120
Speaker 2: do have timeouts, but they're not using I guess they're

2664
02:10:59,240 --> 02:11:01,080
Speaker 2: just using one there there it is. So they have

2665
02:11:01,160 --> 02:11:04,480
Speaker 2: one time out remaining twenty seven seconds left and they

2666
02:11:04,480 --> 02:11:08,040
Speaker 2: have a third and five at the Atlanta seven yard line.

2667
02:11:08,040 --> 02:11:11,960
Speaker 1: So another beautiful usage of the clock, A perfect example

2668
02:11:12,000 --> 02:11:13,280
Speaker 1: of what to do at the end of the game. With

2669
02:11:13,360 --> 02:11:16,320
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell head coach of the Vikings, because now you're

2670
02:11:16,360 --> 02:11:19,120
Speaker 1: going to have a couple attempts at very least at

2671
02:11:19,120 --> 02:11:21,160
Speaker 1: the end zone to win this game, which is the

2672
02:11:21,240 --> 02:11:23,080
Speaker 1: only way you're gonna walk out of here with the

2673
02:11:23,120 --> 02:11:26,800
Speaker 1: win is with a score. You gotta score a touchdown,

2674
02:11:26,800 --> 02:11:29,600
Speaker 1: trailing by four, and you have twenty seven seconds left

2675
02:11:29,600 --> 02:11:31,600
Speaker 1: on the clock, plenty of time to throw at least

2676
02:11:31,640 --> 02:11:34,320
Speaker 1: three passes, two passes to the end zone on third

2677
02:11:34,320 --> 02:11:36,760
Speaker 1: and fourth down, if not get the first down and

2678
02:11:36,880 --> 02:11:38,440
Speaker 1: have a fresh set of downs to do so.

2679
02:11:38,840 --> 02:11:41,120
Speaker 2: All right, so let's reset now, all right, back to

2680
02:11:41,200 --> 02:11:44,919
Speaker 2: Minnesota Atlanta. Third and five at the Atlanta seven yard line.

2681
02:11:45,160 --> 02:11:47,080
Speaker 2: Dobbs is going to look to pass. He throws to

2682
02:11:47,120 --> 02:11:47,800
Speaker 2: the end zone.

2683
02:11:47,640 --> 02:11:50,000
Speaker 3: And is caught touchdown.

2684
02:11:50,200 --> 02:11:55,640
Speaker 2: Vikis wow, wow, Joshua Dobbs to Brandon Powell.

2685
02:11:56,400 --> 02:11:57,640
Speaker 3: I mean, think about this.

2686
02:11:57,840 --> 02:12:00,600
Speaker 2: Dobbs was picked up this week, was not expected to

2687
02:12:00,640 --> 02:12:01,280
Speaker 2: play it all.

2688
02:12:01,640 --> 02:12:03,760
Speaker 3: Jalen Hall got the start, he got hurt.

2689
02:12:03,800 --> 02:12:06,840
Speaker 2: They had to throw Dobbs into the game, and now

2690
02:12:06,880 --> 02:12:09,880
Speaker 2: there are twenty seconds away from possible victory. Now again,

2691
02:12:09,920 --> 02:12:12,520
Speaker 2: an extra point makes of a three point game, still

2692
02:12:12,600 --> 02:12:16,480
Speaker 2: sometime for the Texans, but this would be unbelievable for

2693
02:12:16,520 --> 02:12:20,800
Speaker 2: the Vikings on the road with Dobbs at quarterback in

2694
02:12:20,880 --> 02:12:21,280
Speaker 2: this game.

2695
02:12:21,480 --> 02:12:24,640
Speaker 1: You know, it's odd that Baker Mayfield and the Tampa

2696
02:12:24,640 --> 02:12:27,400
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers are the other team trailing right now, because

2697
02:12:27,480 --> 02:12:31,160
Speaker 1: remember it was Baker Mayfield who was released by Carolina,

2698
02:12:31,320 --> 02:12:34,240
Speaker 1: signed by the Rams and filled in for the Rams

2699
02:12:34,240 --> 02:12:36,640
Speaker 1: and won the game for them his first week with

2700
02:12:36,720 --> 02:12:37,040
Speaker 1: the team.

2701
02:12:37,080 --> 02:12:39,160
Speaker 3: Did you see what happened in the in the Tampa

2702
02:12:39,160 --> 02:12:39,640
Speaker 3: Bay b game?

2703
02:12:39,680 --> 02:12:40,720
Speaker 1: I didn't look at it. What we got.

2704
02:12:40,760 --> 02:12:45,480
Speaker 2: We had a fumble and it was recovered by Tampa Bay.

2705
02:12:45,720 --> 02:12:48,560
Speaker 2: Houston had a chance to recover. Mike Evans stole the

2706
02:12:48,600 --> 02:12:50,200
Speaker 2: ball away and recover the ball.

2707
02:12:50,360 --> 02:12:52,600
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Okay, So this is what it was.

2708
02:12:52,680 --> 02:12:55,320
Speaker 1: It was a deep pass over the middle to Trey Palmer.

2709
02:12:55,480 --> 02:13:00,600
Speaker 1: He was stripped for eleven yards at the Houston eighteen.

2710
02:13:00,640 --> 02:13:03,680
Speaker 1: He was stripped, he fumbled it recovered by Mike Evans

2711
02:13:03,720 --> 02:13:07,320
Speaker 1: at the Houston fourteen. Holy smokes.

2712
02:13:07,520 --> 02:13:10,120
Speaker 2: So now they are marking the ball at the ten

2713
02:13:10,400 --> 02:13:13,280
Speaker 2: yard line where the fumble because you can't advance a fumble,

2714
02:13:13,520 --> 02:13:16,839
Speaker 2: so it's where the fumble occurred. So it's a first

2715
02:13:16,880 --> 02:13:20,560
Speaker 2: and goal right now for the Buccaneers. They are at

2716
02:13:20,600 --> 02:13:23,040
Speaker 2: the ten yard line. Now I'm looking up. Bucks have

2717
02:13:23,240 --> 02:13:26,720
Speaker 2: one time out remaining. There's thirty seven seconds left. At

2718
02:13:26,720 --> 02:13:28,680
Speaker 2: the very least they got a short field goal to

2719
02:13:28,720 --> 02:13:30,560
Speaker 2: send this game in overtime. But you know they don't

2720
02:13:30,560 --> 02:13:34,240
Speaker 2: want that. They want the victory. So the ball now

2721
02:13:34,280 --> 02:13:35,720
Speaker 2: it is at the fourteen yard line.

2722
02:13:35,760 --> 02:13:38,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where the fumble occurred.

2723
02:13:37,800 --> 02:13:40,680
Speaker 3: Right, So the fumble occurred of the fourteen You can't advance.

2724
02:13:40,280 --> 02:13:42,600
Speaker 1: A fumble placed under review, and.

2725
02:13:42,440 --> 02:13:43,880
Speaker 3: So they're going to look at this. But it was

2726
02:13:43,920 --> 02:13:44,720
Speaker 3: a clear fumble.

2727
02:13:44,720 --> 02:13:48,520
Speaker 2: It was a striped fumble and three Texans are right

2728
02:13:48,640 --> 02:13:50,400
Speaker 2: there to grab it.

2729
02:13:50,720 --> 02:13:50,960
Speaker 12: Now.

2730
02:13:51,040 --> 02:13:53,400
Speaker 1: Is there any way to question whether he caught it?

2731
02:13:54,120 --> 02:13:55,880
Speaker 3: No, he had it because he took at least he

2732
02:13:55,880 --> 02:13:56,400
Speaker 3: did take.

2733
02:13:56,280 --> 02:13:57,840
Speaker 1: It two steps. Yeah yeah yeah.

2734
02:13:57,880 --> 02:13:59,840
Speaker 2: By the way, Vikings did get the extra point. So

2735
02:14:00,080 --> 02:14:06,240
Speaker 2: thirty one to twenty eight, Vikings lead. And now the

2736
02:14:06,240 --> 02:14:09,640
Speaker 2: the Falcons looking for a miracle here as they trail

2737
02:14:09,760 --> 02:14:12,640
Speaker 2: by three with just twenty two seconds left.

2738
02:14:12,680 --> 02:14:14,800
Speaker 3: They will start at their own twenty five yard line.

2739
02:14:14,800 --> 02:14:18,320
Speaker 2: But this is this unbelievable with this Dobbs appearance for

2740
02:14:18,400 --> 02:14:19,120
Speaker 2: the Fightings.

2741
02:14:19,200 --> 02:14:21,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I said, it's so funny. That you have

2742
02:14:22,040 --> 02:14:24,520
Speaker 1: Baker leading the comeback, because when he joined the Rams,

2743
02:14:24,520 --> 02:14:27,160
Speaker 1: this was the same storyline and Stafford was down, he

2744
02:14:27,320 --> 02:14:30,000
Speaker 1: was hurt. Baker filled in and all of a sudden

2745
02:14:30,040 --> 02:14:32,360
Speaker 1: it was magic. His first week with the Rams on

2746
02:14:32,640 --> 02:14:35,840
Speaker 1: what what was that like? Two days preparation? Right, it

2747
02:14:35,880 --> 02:14:38,960
Speaker 1: was unbelievable. And so Josh Dobbs is doing that right

2748
02:14:39,040 --> 02:14:46,680
Speaker 1: here in in Atlanta against these Falcons, who again, you know,

2749
02:14:46,800 --> 02:14:49,960
Speaker 1: they mirror the same record as the Vikings four and

2750
02:14:50,040 --> 02:14:53,720
Speaker 1: four looking to advance in their division or keep the lead,

2751
02:14:53,760 --> 02:14:56,840
Speaker 1: I should say, are they're starting to advance the football.

2752
02:14:56,440 --> 02:14:59,160
Speaker 2: All right, So here we are again. They had to

2753
02:14:59,200 --> 02:15:01,560
Speaker 2: reset the clock, was the problem. So they set the

2754
02:15:01,600 --> 02:15:05,400
Speaker 2: clock back to forty nine seconds to go. Tampa, with

2755
02:15:05,480 --> 02:15:08,120
Speaker 2: the ball trailing by three, they have a first intend

2756
02:15:08,160 --> 02:15:13,520
Speaker 2: at the fourteen yard line of the Texans. Meanwhile, Atlanta's

2757
02:15:13,680 --> 02:15:17,960
Speaker 2: last gasp right now, and they got a long way

2758
02:15:18,000 --> 02:15:19,640
Speaker 2: to go, a long way to go. They're at the

2759
02:15:19,640 --> 02:15:23,600
Speaker 2: thirty four yard line here. They need another thirty yards

2760
02:15:23,600 --> 02:15:25,480
Speaker 2: to get into a field goal range. They do have

2761
02:15:25,520 --> 02:15:27,720
Speaker 2: a timeout remaining, so they do have a chance to

2762
02:15:27,720 --> 02:15:30,200
Speaker 2: play over the field. Meanwhile, Mayfield throws in the end

2763
02:15:30,280 --> 02:15:33,560
Speaker 2: zone touchdown Tampa Bay.

2764
02:15:33,800 --> 02:15:39,120
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, this is unbelievable.

2765
02:15:39,400 --> 02:15:43,520
Speaker 2: Kate Onen right there with the touchdown reception on the

2766
02:15:43,560 --> 02:15:47,440
Speaker 2: pass from Baker Mayfield. So the Buccaneers take the lead

2767
02:15:47,520 --> 02:15:50,400
Speaker 2: and with an extra point could take a four point lead.

2768
02:15:51,400 --> 02:15:55,080
Speaker 1: What a pass, What a game for Baker Mayfield nineteen

2769
02:15:55,120 --> 02:15:58,440
Speaker 1: of twenty eight. He threw the second touchdown pass right there,

2770
02:15:58,480 --> 02:16:01,120
Speaker 1: and he's really spread the ball round well so far

2771
02:16:01,200 --> 02:16:06,040
Speaker 1: today one, two, three, four. He's found seven different receivers

2772
02:16:06,080 --> 02:16:10,320
Speaker 1: so far today, obviously highlighting Mike Evans, but Kate Aughton

2773
02:16:10,400 --> 02:16:14,040
Speaker 1: that's his six catch for sixty seven yards in the

2774
02:16:14,080 --> 02:16:17,160
Speaker 1: two touchdown performance for him. Rashad White involved out of

2775
02:16:17,160 --> 02:16:20,600
Speaker 1: the backfield, big day for Baker Mayfield and leading the

2776
02:16:20,720 --> 02:16:24,280
Speaker 1: charge all the way back. Now lead by four against

2777
02:16:24,320 --> 02:16:25,760
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans in Houston.

2778
02:16:25,760 --> 02:16:27,360
Speaker 2: All right, so the X one, as you mentioned, Rich

2779
02:16:27,520 --> 02:16:30,320
Speaker 2: is good. Thirty seven to thirty three Bucks lead the Texans.

2780
02:16:30,400 --> 02:16:31,800
Speaker 1: Now. CJ.

2781
02:16:31,920 --> 02:16:34,320
Speaker 2: Stroud, who's thrown for three hundred and ninety five yards

2782
02:16:34,360 --> 02:16:37,120
Speaker 2: and four touchdowns, So no picks today for the Texans

2783
02:16:37,600 --> 02:16:40,720
Speaker 2: is going to have you know, forty plus seconds to

2784
02:16:40,760 --> 02:16:43,080
Speaker 2: go to try to get a touchdown because they're down

2785
02:16:43,280 --> 02:16:48,080
Speaker 2: four points Atlanta down to literally their last gas. We

2786
02:16:48,200 --> 02:16:52,320
Speaker 2: got five seconds to go. They are at their own

2787
02:16:52,520 --> 02:16:56,120
Speaker 2: forty yard line. There's not enough time to get a

2788
02:16:56,760 --> 02:17:02,240
Speaker 2: pass completed and get a field goal. Team on this

2789
02:17:02,280 --> 02:17:04,160
Speaker 2: is it. They're gonna have to go for a hail Mary.

2790
02:17:04,560 --> 02:17:09,280
Speaker 2: Heinike throws the ball deep and it is almost cott,

2791
02:17:09,959 --> 02:17:13,360
Speaker 2: almost about the five yard line. But this game is

2792
02:17:13,560 --> 02:17:17,920
Speaker 2: over the Vikings. Thanks that Joshua Dobbs has come back

2793
02:17:17,920 --> 02:17:21,680
Speaker 2: to win on the road against the Falcons. All right, Wow,

2794
02:17:21,920 --> 02:17:24,480
Speaker 2: unbelievable finishes around the NFL.

2795
02:17:25,000 --> 02:17:28,240
Speaker 3: More to come. This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

2796
02:17:29,040 --> 02:17:29,720
Speaker 3: Cops back to.

2797
02:17:29,760 --> 02:17:33,039
Speaker 9: Pass on third down, he stays in the pocket, fires.

2798
02:17:32,680 --> 02:17:33,640
Speaker 1: To the end zone.

2799
02:17:33,959 --> 02:17:36,320
Speaker 3: Touchdown.

2800
02:17:37,160 --> 02:17:43,400
Speaker 12: Brendon Powell the Forder Falcon has Dayton the Atlanta.

2801
02:17:42,920 --> 02:17:48,360
Speaker 15: Falcons with a six yard touchdown pass from josh Dobbs.

2802
02:17:48,800 --> 02:17:52,680
Speaker 15: Thirty twenty eighth Minnesota with twenty seconds ago.

2803
02:17:53,480 --> 02:17:58,400
Speaker 2: That's ninety eight Rock Buccaneers a radio network and game

2804
02:17:58,480 --> 02:18:01,480
Speaker 2: over right Bucks leading thirty seven to thirty three over

2805
02:18:01,520 --> 02:18:05,360
Speaker 2: the Texans. Ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to Fox Sports

2806
02:18:05,360 --> 02:18:08,800
Speaker 2: Red Zone Radio, Hartman and Ornberger live from the tire

2807
02:18:08,879 --> 02:18:13,360
Speaker 2: Rack dot Com studios. Not so fast as if the

2808
02:18:13,480 --> 02:18:18,119
Speaker 2: rookie status of c J. Stroud hadn't already gone next level,

2809
02:18:19,000 --> 02:18:21,840
Speaker 2: It just went through the stratosphere of ladies and gentlemen.

2810
02:18:22,240 --> 02:18:22,600
Speaker 1: C J.

2811
02:18:22,800 --> 02:18:28,440
Speaker 2: Stroud just led the Texans to a winning touchdown his

2812
02:18:28,760 --> 02:18:31,480
Speaker 2: fifth touchdown pass of the day.

2813
02:18:32,080 --> 02:18:32,480
Speaker 1: C J.

2814
02:18:32,680 --> 02:18:36,600
Speaker 2: Stroud thirty of forty two, four hundred and seventy yards.

2815
02:18:36,920 --> 02:18:40,440
Speaker 2: That is an all time NFL rookie record for a

2816
02:18:40,480 --> 02:18:46,080
Speaker 2: single game. Five touchdowns, no picks. The Texans are going

2817
02:18:46,120 --> 02:18:49,320
Speaker 2: to beat the Buccaneers by a score of thirty nine

2818
02:18:49,360 --> 02:18:54,279
Speaker 2: to thirty seven unless rich from their own twenty.

2819
02:18:54,000 --> 02:18:54,800
Speaker 3: Five yard line.

2820
02:18:54,800 --> 02:18:58,040
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield has one more miracle and what has been

2821
02:18:58,080 --> 02:18:59,920
Speaker 2: an umblelive They're going to go with the lateral play

2822
02:19:00,200 --> 02:19:02,320
Speaker 2: at the end. They're running the ball up the middle.

2823
02:19:02,360 --> 02:19:05,520
Speaker 2: They go lateral. The ball is still alive. They gave

2824
02:19:05,560 --> 02:19:07,840
Speaker 2: it to a lineman. That's never a good idea. No,

2825
02:19:08,400 --> 02:19:10,800
Speaker 2: and there it is. The ball is over. It is over.

2826
02:19:11,160 --> 02:19:15,720
Speaker 2: Houston has defeated Tampa by a score of thirty nine

2827
02:19:16,240 --> 02:19:20,480
Speaker 2: to thirty seven. All Right, superlatives like where do we

2828
02:19:20,560 --> 02:19:21,320
Speaker 2: go now?

2829
02:19:21,879 --> 02:19:22,440
Speaker 1: With c J.

2830
02:19:22,640 --> 02:19:26,600
Speaker 2: Stroud thirty to forty two an NFL rookie record four

2831
02:19:26,680 --> 02:19:30,680
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy yards, five touchdowns, no picks, and he

2832
02:19:30,720 --> 02:19:33,840
Speaker 2: went down the field in a matter of seconds. You

2833
02:19:33,959 --> 02:19:35,199
Speaker 2: win this game for the Texans.

2834
02:19:35,280 --> 02:19:40,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, let's let's all be realistic with each other. CJ.

2835
02:19:40,160 --> 02:19:43,280
Speaker 1: Stroud is one of the best quarterbacks in the league

2836
02:19:43,280 --> 02:19:47,200
Speaker 1: this year. Absolutely, that's the sentence. That's the sentence, Like.

2837
02:19:47,240 --> 02:19:49,840
Speaker 2: Forget the rookie status. He is one of the premier

2838
02:19:49,920 --> 02:19:51,520
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the league this year.

2839
02:19:51,680 --> 02:19:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2840
02:19:52,240 --> 02:19:54,520
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean you could honestly say, for a team

2841
02:19:54,600 --> 02:19:57,760
Speaker 2: with so limited talent that they're sitting at four and

2842
02:19:57,879 --> 02:19:59,959
Speaker 2: four right now, I dare.

2843
02:19:59,720 --> 02:20:01,200
Speaker 3: Say he gets MVP votes.

2844
02:20:01,879 --> 02:20:05,960
Speaker 2: I mean, who's more valuable to their TJE than CJ.

2845
02:20:06,080 --> 02:20:07,720
Speaker 3: Stroud is to the Houston Texans.

2846
02:20:08,600 --> 02:20:12,000
Speaker 1: I could argue he's the most valuable player in the league.

2847
02:20:12,400 --> 02:20:15,640
Speaker 1: I mean, if we're talking about I mean, this is

2848
02:20:15,640 --> 02:20:20,560
Speaker 1: a season that shouldn't even be resembling a five hundred record, right.

2849
02:20:20,640 --> 02:20:23,400
Speaker 1: I mean again, if you just look at roster, if

2850
02:20:23,400 --> 02:20:27,520
Speaker 1: he was all of a sudden transplanted into Kansas City,

2851
02:20:27,680 --> 02:20:31,920
Speaker 1: or into Seattle, or into Philadelphia, or into any of

2852
02:20:31,959 --> 02:20:36,240
Speaker 1: these situations Buffalo where he's he's got a better roster

2853
02:20:36,320 --> 02:20:39,400
Speaker 1: around him, he would be unstoppable.

2854
02:20:39,480 --> 02:20:42,640
Speaker 2: All right, rich, let's hear the actual call of what

2855
02:20:42,800 --> 02:20:45,440
Speaker 2: turned out to be the game winning touchdown.

2856
02:20:45,560 --> 02:20:49,040
Speaker 8: CJ gets the snap, CJ looking throwing to the end zone.

2857
02:20:50,680 --> 02:20:54,280
Speaker 12: Es Salid, So what the wast up?

2858
02:20:54,360 --> 02:20:56,080
Speaker 3: Said, fucking crow?

2859
02:20:57,080 --> 02:21:01,200
Speaker 12: My goodness, want to come back?

2860
02:21:01,560 --> 02:21:05,560
Speaker 1: Go Koops young'stan gets it done?

2861
02:21:06,360 --> 02:21:07,359
Speaker 13: Are you kidding?

2862
02:21:08,640 --> 02:21:14,080
Speaker 2: So this was this was unbelievable how they were able

2863
02:21:14,120 --> 02:21:18,760
Speaker 2: to maneuver and get this play into the end zone.

2864
02:21:18,760 --> 02:21:20,359
Speaker 3: This final drive.

2865
02:21:21,440 --> 02:21:26,360
Speaker 2: Was a six play, seventy five yard drive in forty

2866
02:21:26,600 --> 02:21:28,240
Speaker 2: seconds by CJ.

2867
02:21:28,360 --> 02:21:29,520
Speaker 3: Stroud. By the way, that was.

2868
02:21:29,480 --> 02:21:33,080
Speaker 2: The Texans if you could get tell Texans radio network.

2869
02:21:33,160 --> 02:21:39,280
Speaker 2: So forty seconds left, seventy five yards, six plays, doo touchdown,

2870
02:21:39,480 --> 02:21:39,960
Speaker 2: game over.

2871
02:21:40,400 --> 02:21:45,000
Speaker 1: Listen, CJ. Shroud, he's thrown for going into this game

2872
02:21:45,520 --> 02:21:49,640
Speaker 1: eighteen hundred yards, nine touchdowns in an interception. He leaves

2873
02:21:49,680 --> 02:21:52,920
Speaker 1: this game with over two thousand yards, over twenty two

2874
02:21:53,000 --> 02:21:56,480
Speaker 1: hundred yards. Yes, he's got fourteen on the year now, yeah,

2875
02:21:56,480 --> 02:21:59,200
Speaker 1: for in terms of touchdowns one interception.

2876
02:21:58,840 --> 02:21:59,640
Speaker 3: Fourteen to one.

2877
02:22:00,120 --> 02:22:03,320
Speaker 1: I mean he protects the football, he gets rid of it,

2878
02:22:03,360 --> 02:22:06,920
Speaker 1: he doesn't get sacked aton, he preserves himself. He's smart,

2879
02:22:07,400 --> 02:22:10,440
Speaker 1: he's able, he's a system quarterback. He's able to operate

2880
02:22:10,480 --> 02:22:14,119
Speaker 1: within a system, and then also he has the capabilities

2881
02:22:14,400 --> 02:22:17,720
Speaker 1: of escaping pressure and making plays on his own. C J.

2882
02:22:17,959 --> 02:22:22,160
Speaker 1: Stroud again is one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL.

2883
02:22:22,280 --> 02:22:27,040
Speaker 1: He's in the MVP conversation and you cannot exclude him

2884
02:22:27,080 --> 02:22:30,160
Speaker 1: any longer. He will not be denied. This come from

2885
02:22:30,160 --> 02:22:33,640
Speaker 1: behind victory for the Texans. I mean, this is the

2886
02:22:33,760 --> 02:22:37,080
Speaker 1: stuff that builds confidence in a franchise around a quarterback.

2887
02:22:37,160 --> 02:22:40,039
Speaker 1: This is I mean, look, and the mcnairs have money.

2888
02:22:40,160 --> 02:22:43,680
Speaker 1: It's not like they can't invest in this roster and

2889
02:22:43,800 --> 02:22:46,400
Speaker 1: build I mean, they've done it before. They'll do it again,

2890
02:22:46,840 --> 02:22:48,959
Speaker 1: especially when you have a special talent like him.

2891
02:22:49,160 --> 02:22:52,080
Speaker 2: Unball believable and they got a special coach in Jamiico

2892
02:22:52,200 --> 02:22:53,959
Speaker 2: Ryans as well. All right, So there you go, the

2893
02:22:53,959 --> 02:22:57,520
Speaker 2: Texans miracle victory. All right, let's find out what is.

2894
02:22:57,520 --> 02:23:00,760
Speaker 3: Trending right now. So, Monci, is there anything happened?

2895
02:23:01,000 --> 02:23:03,120
Speaker 10: I don't know because I was just watching that game,

2896
02:23:03,280 --> 02:23:05,400
Speaker 10: So if anything happened, I missed it.

2897
02:23:05,480 --> 02:23:07,440
Speaker 11: That was a crazy game, I believed.

2898
02:23:07,480 --> 02:23:11,000
Speaker 10: Not to mention that the Houston Texans lost their kicker.

2899
02:23:11,160 --> 02:23:12,920
Speaker 11: That was another big part of their story.

2900
02:23:12,920 --> 02:23:15,119
Speaker 2: By the way, they don't win this game without that

2901
02:23:15,160 --> 02:23:16,920
Speaker 2: field go by the running back.

2902
02:23:16,959 --> 02:23:23,160
Speaker 10: Dare ohgu bowally, Yeah, a seven year running back veteran, right.

2903
02:23:23,160 --> 02:23:26,120
Speaker 3: So they have no kicker, no kicker, so they had

2904
02:23:26,160 --> 02:23:26,760
Speaker 3: to That's why.

2905
02:23:26,760 --> 02:23:28,280
Speaker 2: By the way, they only won by two at the end,

2906
02:23:28,320 --> 02:23:30,280
Speaker 2: because they had a kicker to kick the extra point.

2907
02:23:30,640 --> 02:23:34,480
Speaker 11: Isn't that insane? Just like everything that went their way?

2908
02:23:34,840 --> 02:23:36,440
Speaker 11: Good job CJ. Stroud.

2909
02:23:36,840 --> 02:23:39,240
Speaker 10: This shouldn't, but it does cloud a little bit of

2910
02:23:39,280 --> 02:23:43,200
Speaker 10: what Joshua Dobs did in Minnesota. Nobody was expecting him

2911
02:23:43,200 --> 02:23:45,920
Speaker 10: to play and in the first quarter they're starting quarterback

2912
02:23:46,000 --> 02:23:48,840
Speaker 10: Jaron Hall out of the game with a concussion. Incomes

2913
02:23:48,920 --> 02:23:52,160
Speaker 10: Joshua Dobs, just five days after being traded to the

2914
02:23:52,200 --> 02:23:56,000
Speaker 10: Minnesota Vikings. There, he is twenty of thirty one hundred

2915
02:23:56,000 --> 02:23:59,640
Speaker 10: and fifty eight yards two touchdowns, also had a rushing

2916
02:23:59,720 --> 02:24:02,600
Speaker 10: touch down, and the Vikings with a shocking victory over

2917
02:24:02,640 --> 02:24:05,360
Speaker 10: the Falcons. Thirty one twenty eight was the final score,

2918
02:24:05,400 --> 02:24:08,039
Speaker 10: so Minnesota is now five and four while the Falcons

2919
02:24:08,080 --> 02:24:11,199
Speaker 10: are four and five. The Browns they crushed the Cardinals

2920
02:24:11,240 --> 02:24:15,039
Speaker 10: twenty seven zero. Clayton Tune was a quarterback for the

2921
02:24:15,080 --> 02:24:17,959
Speaker 10: Cardinals he only threw for fifty eight yards. He was

2922
02:24:18,040 --> 02:24:22,240
Speaker 10: sacked seven times. That's needed an ice bath and then some.

2923
02:24:22,560 --> 02:24:25,120
Speaker 10: Deshaun Watson nineteen of thirty two hundred and nineteen yards

2924
02:24:25,120 --> 02:24:27,240
Speaker 10: and two touchdowns, but it was Amari Cooper who had

2925
02:24:27,280 --> 02:24:29,959
Speaker 10: a five receptions one hundred and thirty nine yards and

2926
02:24:30,000 --> 02:24:33,080
Speaker 10: one touchdown. The Ravens dominated the Seahawks thirty seven to three.

2927
02:24:33,120 --> 02:24:34,880
Speaker 10: I'm gonna speed this up because I feel I'm gonna

2928
02:24:34,920 --> 02:24:35,840
Speaker 10: start cofeeing the Packers.

2929
02:24:35,840 --> 02:24:37,360
Speaker 11: Crews passed the Rams twenty to three.

2930
02:24:37,400 --> 02:24:40,039
Speaker 10: The Commanders held on to beat the Patriots twenty to seventeen,

2931
02:24:40,200 --> 02:24:42,920
Speaker 10: and the Saints outscored the Bears twenty four to seventeen.

2932
02:24:43,000 --> 02:24:45,520
Speaker 10: And in Germany, the Chiefs did take down the Dolphins

2933
02:24:45,520 --> 02:24:48,960
Speaker 10: twenty one to seventeen. And in college sports, USC has

2934
02:24:49,040 --> 02:24:52,760
Speaker 10: relieved its defensive coordinator Alex Scrinch of his duties, so

2935
02:24:53,000 --> 02:24:56,240
Speaker 10: USC defensive line coach Seannua and inside linebackers coach Brian

2936
02:24:56,280 --> 02:24:58,279
Speaker 10: Odin will serve as co defensive coordinators.

2937
02:25:01,200 --> 02:25:03,080
Speaker 3: She got it, by the way, by the way, as

2938
02:25:03,080 --> 02:25:03,920
Speaker 3: she's no right.

2939
02:25:03,959 --> 02:25:08,800
Speaker 2: Now, here's the thing, moncey, I have done live television

2940
02:25:10,000 --> 02:25:13,560
Speaker 2: where I am about to have a coughing attack.

2941
02:25:15,560 --> 02:25:17,200
Speaker 3: And talk about racing.

2942
02:25:17,360 --> 02:25:19,520
Speaker 2: I had one time where I was racing to the

2943
02:25:19,600 --> 02:25:23,080
Speaker 2: end of a story and I had to get to

2944
02:25:23,320 --> 02:25:26,560
Speaker 2: like a highlight, like there was like a ten second

2945
02:25:27,120 --> 02:25:30,879
Speaker 2: video highlight. As soon as I tossed, I went into

2946
02:25:30,920 --> 02:25:34,200
Speaker 2: this violent coughing attack so much, I.

2947
02:25:34,120 --> 02:25:36,760
Speaker 3: Think we fully lost Monsey for the day. She was

2948
02:25:36,800 --> 02:25:38,920
Speaker 3: coughing up. Look, and I've been there. I've been there

2949
02:25:38,959 --> 02:25:39,360
Speaker 3: many times.

2950
02:25:39,360 --> 02:25:42,280
Speaker 1: Well, she's a smoker and has been for many, many years.

2951
02:25:42,400 --> 02:25:47,480
Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy packs one packs of Marlboro Reds,

2952
02:25:47,480 --> 02:25:48,720
Speaker 1: and we've been trying to help.

2953
02:25:48,920 --> 02:25:49,959
Speaker 3: She goes unfiltered.

2954
02:25:50,200 --> 02:25:55,640
Speaker 2: Oh, I've apologized, makes it a little bit, but she's okay,

2955
02:25:55,760 --> 02:25:56,760
Speaker 2: and so are we.

2956
02:25:57,120 --> 02:25:57,480
Speaker 12: All right.

2957
02:25:58,160 --> 02:26:02,560
Speaker 2: Unbelievable, uh, and that you know people are like lousy

2958
02:26:02,760 --> 02:26:06,000
Speaker 2: schedule forget that. Who cares? Man, You know you're gonna

2959
02:26:06,000 --> 02:26:09,920
Speaker 2: get some great finishes. We had two amazing finishes led

2960
02:26:09,959 --> 02:26:13,280
Speaker 2: by Dobbs and Stroud today in the NFL. All right,

2961
02:26:13,320 --> 02:26:17,000
Speaker 2: so we got three games going on right now, Colts

2962
02:26:17,040 --> 02:26:20,320
Speaker 2: of the Panthers, Giants of the Raiders, and Cowboys at

2963
02:26:20,320 --> 02:26:23,600
Speaker 2: the Eagles. By the way, the Raiders Aidan O'Connell. It's

2964
02:26:23,600 --> 02:26:26,480
Speaker 2: been announced that Jimmy Garoppolo is done. He has finished.

2965
02:26:27,320 --> 02:26:29,480
Speaker 2: Aidan O'Connell will be the quarterback for the rest of

2966
02:26:29,520 --> 02:26:32,920
Speaker 2: the year and your former teammate and roommate, Brian.

2967
02:26:32,680 --> 02:26:34,000
Speaker 3: Hoyer will be the backups.

2968
02:26:34,080 --> 02:26:36,920
Speaker 2: So you can say goodbye to Jimmy Garoppolo in a

2969
02:26:37,000 --> 02:26:40,840
Speaker 2: Raider uniform. Raiders right now, by the way, have a

2970
02:26:40,920 --> 02:26:44,440
Speaker 2: second and two at the Giants seventeen yard line if

2971
02:26:44,480 --> 02:26:47,640
Speaker 2: you missed a Daniel Jones back a quarterback for the

2972
02:26:47,680 --> 02:26:50,840
Speaker 2: Giants today. Meanwhile, the Colts are trying to get into

2973
02:26:50,879 --> 02:26:55,840
Speaker 2: the end zone here. And if you're the Panthers right now,

2974
02:26:56,760 --> 02:26:59,760
Speaker 2: because we talked about this earlier about whether they ever

2975
02:27:00,040 --> 02:27:06,359
Speaker 2: actually considered taking CJ. Stroud over Bryce Young, the pressure

2976
02:27:06,440 --> 02:27:11,760
Speaker 2: on Bryce Young and the Panthers just one up another notch. Yep, Yeah,

2977
02:27:12,080 --> 02:27:16,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean again to at least show. I mean,

2978
02:27:16,280 --> 02:27:19,160
Speaker 2: they're coming off their first win of the year. Wasn't pretty,

2979
02:27:19,160 --> 02:27:24,160
Speaker 2: but it was a w But as CJ. Stroud's star

2980
02:27:24,320 --> 02:27:28,039
Speaker 2: power goes into the stratosphere, more and more pressure on

2981
02:27:28,080 --> 02:27:29,680
Speaker 2: Bryce Young and these Panthers.

2982
02:27:29,920 --> 02:27:33,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's impossible to ignore. You know, when you are

2983
02:27:34,560 --> 02:27:38,959
Speaker 1: the team who's picking first, what happens directly behind you.

2984
02:27:39,240 --> 02:27:42,600
Speaker 1: What happens a couple of spots behind you, especially when

2985
02:27:42,600 --> 02:27:47,880
Speaker 1: we're talking about comparable, if not the same position. You know, Okay,

2986
02:27:47,920 --> 02:27:49,640
Speaker 1: I get it. You know, maybe if you draft a

2987
02:27:49,720 --> 02:27:53,440
Speaker 1: running back and that running back is unproductive and another

2988
02:27:53,440 --> 02:27:56,320
Speaker 1: team below you gets a receiver, you get a quarterback,

2989
02:27:56,360 --> 02:27:59,320
Speaker 1: and another team or another team below you gets a

2990
02:27:59,360 --> 02:28:02,560
Speaker 1: tight end. Yeah, those comparisons are made. But this is

2991
02:28:02,720 --> 02:28:07,880
Speaker 1: a one overall pick and two overall pick, same position comparison.

2992
02:28:08,560 --> 02:28:12,680
Speaker 1: So that means that the Carolina Panthers unequivocally could have

2993
02:28:12,920 --> 02:28:17,640
Speaker 1: selected CJ. Stroud. They had a need at quarterback and

2994
02:28:17,680 --> 02:28:20,119
Speaker 1: that was made apparent by their selection of Bryce Young

2995
02:28:20,520 --> 02:28:23,280
Speaker 1: with their first overall pick, and they decided to go

2996
02:28:23,360 --> 02:28:26,520
Speaker 1: with him instead of c J. Stroud. Now, this does

2997
02:28:26,600 --> 02:28:29,800
Speaker 1: not mean if CJ. Stroud went to Carolina he would

2998
02:28:29,879 --> 02:28:32,760
Speaker 1: be having the level of success he's having in Houston,

2999
02:28:32,800 --> 02:28:37,800
Speaker 1: because remember, again, fit matters. Maybe CJ. Stroud would fit

3000
02:28:37,840 --> 02:28:40,440
Speaker 1: even better with Carolina than he does with Houston. We

3001
02:28:40,480 --> 02:28:42,760
Speaker 1: don't know the answer that question, and so it's not

3002
02:28:42,840 --> 02:28:46,320
Speaker 1: really fair to compare. But you know, if you're the

3003
02:28:46,360 --> 02:28:50,280
Speaker 1: owner of the Carolina Panthers, you're asking that question Why

3004
02:28:50,320 --> 02:28:53,240
Speaker 1: does he look so good? Why does our guy look

3005
02:28:53,280 --> 02:28:55,720
Speaker 1: so bad? Why did we spend all this money on

3006
02:28:55,760 --> 02:28:59,720
Speaker 1: this guy? Why does their guy perform so much? It's

3007
02:28:59,760 --> 02:29:02,400
Speaker 1: this this is the world you live in. It's a

3008
02:29:02,440 --> 02:29:06,080
Speaker 1: results driven business. And so far CJ. Stroud again looks

3009
02:29:06,120 --> 02:29:08,320
Speaker 1: like one of the best quarterbacks in the league. And

3010
02:29:08,320 --> 02:29:10,360
Speaker 1: Bryce Young looks like he's got a lot to learn

3011
02:29:10,360 --> 02:29:11,039
Speaker 1: at this level.

3012
02:29:11,240 --> 02:29:15,520
Speaker 2: All right, So we have the cowboy excuse me, Cowboys Eagles,

3013
02:29:15,560 --> 02:29:16,040
Speaker 2: no score.

3014
02:29:16,120 --> 02:29:17,800
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts was very lucky.

3015
02:29:18,240 --> 02:29:20,800
Speaker 2: He got stripped of the ball trying to throw the ball,

3016
02:29:20,879 --> 02:29:23,279
Speaker 2: but the ball bounced back into his hands. So Eagles

3017
02:29:23,320 --> 02:29:26,760
Speaker 2: have the ball. No score early. And how about the Raiders.

3018
02:29:27,120 --> 02:29:30,760
Speaker 2: Antonio Pierce is the new coach of this team after

3019
02:29:30,800 --> 02:29:34,040
Speaker 2: the firing of Josh McDaniels, And on their opening drive

3020
02:29:34,080 --> 02:29:39,039
Speaker 2: with Ado O'Connell under center, the Raiders score a touchdown

3021
02:29:39,120 --> 02:29:42,560
Speaker 2: on a Jacobe Myers, one of those former Patriots, that

3022
02:29:42,640 --> 02:29:45,880
Speaker 2: was brought in on an end around seventeen yards for

3023
02:29:45,959 --> 02:29:49,200
Speaker 2: the score. So the Raiders first drive with the new

3024
02:29:49,240 --> 02:29:50,560
Speaker 2: coach touchdown.

3025
02:29:50,959 --> 02:29:56,080
Speaker 1: Well, listen, sometimes and this is man. Is this true?

3026
02:29:56,440 --> 02:30:00,760
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just about energy level and attitude. Sometimes not

3027
02:30:00,840 --> 02:30:04,040
Speaker 1: a lot of changes. You know, there probably weren't a

3028
02:30:04,080 --> 02:30:07,439
Speaker 1: ton of changes week over week in terms of game plan, strategy,

3029
02:30:07,480 --> 02:30:13,039
Speaker 1: offensive plays, etc. But the reality is, sometimes, you know,

3030
02:30:13,280 --> 02:30:15,680
Speaker 1: when there's a change made and there's a little more

3031
02:30:15,840 --> 02:30:19,480
Speaker 1: enthusiasm in the building, players really rally around a coach.

3032
02:30:19,560 --> 02:30:22,800
Speaker 1: This happened actually with the same exact team after the

3033
02:30:22,840 --> 02:30:27,000
Speaker 1: Gruden resignation. Remember Gruden was forced out by the team

3034
02:30:27,040 --> 02:30:30,800
Speaker 1: ownership after those emails were revealed that he said, you know,

3035
02:30:30,879 --> 02:30:36,240
Speaker 1: misogynistic and homophobic and racist remarks, and so he lost

3036
02:30:36,280 --> 02:30:39,400
Speaker 1: his job with the Raiders, and Rich Bisaccia, the special

3037
02:30:39,440 --> 02:30:44,400
Speaker 1: teams coach, took over. Players loved Bisacia. They wanted him

3038
02:30:44,440 --> 02:30:47,560
Speaker 1: to be named the head coach and take over officially

3039
02:30:47,600 --> 02:30:50,400
Speaker 1: after being named the interim head coach because he guided

3040
02:30:50,400 --> 02:30:53,720
Speaker 1: that Raiders team to kind of a comeback season and

3041
02:30:53,760 --> 02:30:57,360
Speaker 1: a playoff entrance against the Bengals who had to take

3042
02:30:57,400 --> 02:30:59,440
Speaker 1: them I believe into overtime to win.

3043
02:30:59,520 --> 02:31:02,360
Speaker 3: It was hold on touchdown Eagles.

3044
02:31:02,440 --> 02:31:06,039
Speaker 2: There you go, Kenneth Gainwell diving into the end zone.

3045
02:31:06,320 --> 02:31:09,959
Speaker 2: So the UH Cowboys on their opening drive three and out,

3046
02:31:10,640 --> 02:31:14,840
Speaker 2: the Eagles touchdown Jalen Hurts opening drive six to seven

3047
02:31:14,920 --> 02:31:16,120
Speaker 2: sixty nine yards.

3048
02:31:16,400 --> 02:31:18,920
Speaker 3: Think about Basachia was he was like a raider, right

3049
02:31:19,280 --> 02:31:21,360
Speaker 3: he was? He was a raider.

3050
02:31:21,720 --> 02:31:25,279
Speaker 2: Josh McDaniels was not a raider, and the raiders should

3051
02:31:25,360 --> 02:31:27,840
Speaker 2: know from their own history. Going back to the Mike

3052
02:31:27,879 --> 02:31:28,920
Speaker 2: Shanahan situation.

3053
02:31:29,320 --> 02:31:32,240
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, I agree with you gotta be a raider.

3054
02:31:32,400 --> 02:31:36,760
Speaker 2: You have to understand what the organization about. And here's

3055
02:31:36,800 --> 02:31:39,240
Speaker 2: the thing. As a former employee of the Silver and Black,

3056
02:31:39,760 --> 02:31:43,120
Speaker 2: you gotta buy in. You have to buy in one

3057
02:31:43,200 --> 02:31:44,439
Speaker 2: hundred percent.

3058
02:31:44,680 --> 02:31:48,440
Speaker 1: There's something to be said about matching the intensity of

3059
02:31:48,480 --> 02:31:52,000
Speaker 1: the fan base, like like like you said, Rich Bissacia,

3060
02:31:52,200 --> 02:31:55,520
Speaker 1: he kind of had it. John Gruden, John Ruden ra Look,

3061
02:31:55,560 --> 02:31:58,080
Speaker 1: I mean until everything went down the way it did,

3062
02:31:58,280 --> 02:32:00,840
Speaker 1: John Gruden had it. But I mean and again getting

3063
02:32:00,840 --> 02:32:04,440
Speaker 1: caught with those emails saying some awful things like it

3064
02:32:04,560 --> 02:32:06,520
Speaker 1: is what it is. They had to get rid of

3065
02:32:06,640 --> 02:32:11,440
Speaker 1: John Gruden. So so they went after mcdoniel McDaniels, who

3066
02:32:11,480 --> 02:32:14,040
Speaker 1: tried to make it Patriots West. It did not take

3067
02:32:14,240 --> 02:32:15,760
Speaker 1: you know, you know, it was a good example of

3068
02:32:15,760 --> 02:32:17,640
Speaker 1: this where you need to have a coach that matches

3069
02:32:18,000 --> 02:32:20,280
Speaker 1: kind of the same tempo of the fan base. Dan

3070
02:32:20,320 --> 02:32:23,760
Speaker 1: Campbell with the Detroit Lions. Dan Campbell with Detroit. When

3071
02:32:23,840 --> 02:32:27,440
Speaker 1: you look at Dan Campbell, could you imagine Detroit having

3072
02:32:27,440 --> 02:32:30,240
Speaker 1: a different coach now the answer is no. Now you

3073
02:32:30,360 --> 02:32:33,160
Speaker 1: got this thick neck, you know, kind of you know,

3074
02:32:33,400 --> 02:32:36,920
Speaker 1: maniac brute with the goatee leading the charge, and he

3075
02:32:37,000 --> 02:32:39,360
Speaker 1: wanted to bring a live lion on the sideline. Like

3076
02:32:39,400 --> 02:32:41,440
Speaker 1: this is the type of guy you need to in

3077
02:32:41,840 --> 02:32:44,520
Speaker 1: Motor City for things to work out. You kind of

3078
02:32:44,520 --> 02:32:47,440
Speaker 1: have to match the fan base his energy, and I

3079
02:32:47,480 --> 02:32:49,080
Speaker 1: don't think McDaniels ever did.

3080
02:32:49,680 --> 02:32:52,320
Speaker 2: By the way, the Eagles got penalized in the extra point,

3081
02:32:52,360 --> 02:32:55,040
Speaker 2: so now they're looking at a forty three yard extra

3082
02:32:55,120 --> 02:32:58,720
Speaker 2: point and it is still good. So the Eagles lead

3083
02:32:58,760 --> 02:33:01,960
Speaker 2: the Cowboys by a score of seven to nothing.

3084
02:33:02,040 --> 02:33:03,560
Speaker 3: What a day it's been. What a day.

3085
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Speaker 2: It's going to be much more coming up. This is

3086
02:33:07,160 --> 02:33:10,800
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Red Zone Radio ops.

3087
02:33:10,520 --> 02:33:14,119
Speaker 9: Back to pass on third down, he stays in the pocket, fires.

3088
02:33:13,760 --> 02:33:17,440
Speaker 3: To the end zone. Touchdown.

3089
02:33:18,280 --> 02:33:25,280
Speaker 12: Brendon Powell, the former Falcon has Dayton the Atlanta Falcons.

3090
02:33:24,840 --> 02:33:30,280
Speaker 15: With a six yard touchdown pass from Josh Dobbs thirty

3091
02:33:30,480 --> 02:33:32,360
Speaker 15: twenty eighth Minnesota with.

3092
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Speaker 9: Twenty seconds ago.

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Speaker 2: Kfan one entred point three FM, Vikings Radio Network. Unbelievable

3094
02:33:39,600 --> 02:33:44,080
Speaker 2: comeback for the Vikings led by Joshua Dobbs. That's our

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Speaker 2: dot Com. This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. Steve

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Speaker 2: Hart Rich Ornberger with you live from the Tiraq dot

3101
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Speaker 2: com studios. We have Bo, we had Chris, we have Monster,

3102
02:34:07,280 --> 02:34:10,480
Speaker 2: even have Ryan today. Everybody helping out. Hey, let's get

3103
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Speaker 2: a little more insight on that huge Vikings victory.

3104
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Speaker 5: It's time for the NFL on Fox Focus.

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02:34:22,360 --> 02:34:24,680
Speaker 2: Antonia's right now from Fox Sports. She was on the

3106
02:34:24,800 --> 02:34:29,560
Speaker 2: sideline for this miracle win. Considering Joshua Dobbs wasn't even

3107
02:34:29,560 --> 02:34:32,400
Speaker 2: supposed to play this week. Christina Pink is joining us

3108
02:34:32,480 --> 02:34:35,199
Speaker 2: right now. So Christina, first of all, thanks for joining

3109
02:34:35,280 --> 02:34:37,760
Speaker 2: us for a couple of minutes here on Fox Sports Radio.

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02:34:38,440 --> 02:34:41,200
Speaker 2: So he wasn't even supposed to play this week. I

3111
02:34:41,240 --> 02:34:43,920
Speaker 2: don't even know if Dobbs knew any plays in the playback.

3112
02:34:44,040 --> 02:34:46,680
Speaker 2: We were kidding that when he came into the game,

3113
02:34:46,720 --> 02:34:48,320
Speaker 2: look look for an open receiver.

3114
02:34:48,440 --> 02:34:49,200
Speaker 3: He's not open.

3115
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Speaker 1: Run.

3116
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Speaker 3: He pretty much did just that.

3117
02:34:51,800 --> 02:34:55,320
Speaker 2: But give us a sense of just how a miracle

3118
02:34:55,400 --> 02:34:58,680
Speaker 2: this was for Joshua Dobbs to step in this week

3119
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Speaker 2: with the Vikings and pull out this come from behind victory.

3120
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Speaker 16: I think miracle is probably a great way to describe it.

3121
02:35:06,120 --> 02:35:07,880
Speaker 16: I'm not even sure if he knew all the names

3122
02:35:07,879 --> 02:35:12,000
Speaker 16: of the guys hotle. It was a pretty incredible feat

3123
02:35:12,080 --> 02:35:14,320
Speaker 16: by him. But you know, even talking with Kevin O'Connell

3124
02:35:14,360 --> 02:35:17,320
Speaker 16: at halftime, he's like, we're piecing this together right now,

3125
02:35:17,360 --> 02:35:20,640
Speaker 16: because you spend the entire week preparing for Jaron and

3126
02:35:20,760 --> 02:35:23,280
Speaker 16: Joshua dogs who has only been with the team for

3127
02:35:23,280 --> 02:35:25,360
Speaker 16: a couple of days, three practices where he's not even

3128
02:35:25,400 --> 02:35:28,080
Speaker 16: getting reps. To step out there and play the way

3129
02:35:28,120 --> 02:35:31,480
Speaker 16: he did was pretty incredible. Obviously they had some hiccups

3130
02:35:31,520 --> 02:35:34,320
Speaker 16: early on, but he showed a lot of poise, especially

3131
02:35:34,400 --> 02:35:35,440
Speaker 16: on that game winning drive.

3132
02:35:35,879 --> 02:35:37,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you look at the other side of

3133
02:35:37,680 --> 02:35:41,119
Speaker 1: this matchup with a player like Bijon Robinson, I have

3134
02:35:41,120 --> 02:35:44,360
Speaker 1: a backfield for the Atlanta Falcons. It's confusing as to

3135
02:35:44,400 --> 02:35:47,720
Speaker 1: why he's been underutilized, especially in a game where they

3136
02:35:47,760 --> 02:35:51,360
Speaker 1: could have used some offense, especially later later on any

3137
02:35:51,560 --> 02:35:54,640
Speaker 1: any update from Arthur Smith that all throughout the week

3138
02:35:54,760 --> 02:35:58,600
Speaker 1: or today on what the story is with their rookie

3139
02:35:58,680 --> 02:36:01,520
Speaker 1: running back who really seems like he's ready to go,

3140
02:36:01,680 --> 02:36:03,840
Speaker 1: but he's been sort of rained in a little bit here.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, Vijon is a star and we've had the Falcons

3142
02:36:08,080 --> 02:36:10,960
Speaker 16: probably four times this year, so it's come up a lot.

3143
02:36:11,000 --> 02:36:13,240
Speaker 16: And actually talked to Jon about it in warm up.

3144
02:36:13,920 --> 02:36:17,279
Speaker 16: You know, Arthur Smith is thinking long term. He's thinking,

3145
02:36:17,480 --> 02:36:19,560
Speaker 16: you know, we've got to make sure he's a rookie.

3146
02:36:19,560 --> 02:36:22,560
Speaker 16: We can't overload him as far as the workload. And

3147
02:36:22,720 --> 02:36:24,960
Speaker 16: Jon told me the same thing before the game. He's like, look,

3148
02:36:25,280 --> 02:36:27,440
Speaker 16: when it comes to coach, like he's always checking in

3149
02:36:27,480 --> 02:36:29,920
Speaker 16: on me, making sure I'm progression. But I think progressing.

3150
02:36:30,560 --> 02:36:32,440
Speaker 16: But I think they're just trying to manage him and

3151
02:36:32,560 --> 02:36:34,520
Speaker 16: making sure that both their backs get plays and they

3152
02:36:34,520 --> 02:36:37,000
Speaker 16: don't overload a pretty young guy in this league.

3153
02:36:37,520 --> 02:36:39,320
Speaker 3: All right back to Minnesota, I mean, this is a

3154
02:36:39,400 --> 02:36:39,760
Speaker 3: big game.

3155
02:36:39,920 --> 02:36:42,520
Speaker 2: Both scenes because they were both four and four obviously,

3156
02:36:42,600 --> 02:36:45,000
Speaker 2: now the Vikings are at five and four, they made

3157
02:36:45,040 --> 02:36:47,840
Speaker 2: the deal for Dobbs. You know, obviously with Kirk Cousins

3158
02:36:47,840 --> 02:36:50,480
Speaker 2: out for the year, you're looking at the rookie Jaron Hall.

3159
02:36:50,720 --> 02:36:54,160
Speaker 3: Can he get it done? Now you've got Dobbs?

3160
02:36:54,879 --> 02:36:58,200
Speaker 2: I mean, what is the feeling from Kevin O'Connell, from

3161
02:36:58,200 --> 02:37:02,720
Speaker 2: the Vikings in discovering that Joshua Dobbs. And by the way,

3162
02:37:02,760 --> 02:37:05,720
Speaker 2: anyone that saw Dobbs beat the Cowboys earlier this year

3163
02:37:05,760 --> 02:37:08,000
Speaker 2: with the Cardinals played very well in a loss of

3164
02:37:08,040 --> 02:37:11,000
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers earlier knows he's capable.

3165
02:37:11,080 --> 02:37:13,640
Speaker 3: But is there a sense in that locker room post

3166
02:37:13,680 --> 02:37:14,080
Speaker 3: game that.

3167
02:37:14,240 --> 02:37:18,680
Speaker 2: Wow, we're going to be okay even losing our starting quarterback.

3168
02:37:19,440 --> 02:37:19,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

3169
02:37:19,760 --> 02:37:22,360
Speaker 16: I mean he's done this several times this year. I mean,

3170
02:37:22,400 --> 02:37:24,840
Speaker 16: you mentioned the win against the Cowboys, but he really

3171
02:37:24,879 --> 02:37:27,320
Speaker 16: played well in a lot of other games that they

3172
02:37:27,360 --> 02:37:30,119
Speaker 16: ended up losing. And it's just that adaptability that he's

3173
02:37:30,160 --> 02:37:32,560
Speaker 16: been able to do throughout his career. I think it's

3174
02:37:32,560 --> 02:37:35,520
Speaker 16: what like five teams over the last calendar year that

3175
02:37:35,560 --> 02:37:39,440
Speaker 16: he's played for free training camp with one and then

3176
02:37:39,480 --> 02:37:43,279
Speaker 16: traded to Arizona and now joining these guys this season.

3177
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Speaker 16: You know, I didn't get a chance to talk with

3178
02:37:44,959 --> 02:37:47,039
Speaker 16: coach post game, but you got to get a sense

3179
02:37:47,040 --> 02:37:51,480
Speaker 16: that they feel a little bit more comfortable about what

3180
02:37:51,520 --> 02:37:54,640
Speaker 16: the outlook looks like. With the way Dobbs played today, well,

3181
02:37:54,680 --> 02:37:56,280
Speaker 16: I don't got the stretch of that game now.

3182
02:37:56,320 --> 02:37:58,520
Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of people have victor predicted

3183
02:37:58,560 --> 02:38:01,320
Speaker 2: that kind of a game the Vikings and the Mawkins,

3184
02:38:01,400 --> 02:38:03,400
Speaker 2: but it turned out to be one of the games

3185
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Speaker 2: of the day. Christina, thanks so much for joining us.

3186
02:38:06,920 --> 02:38:08,879
Speaker 16: Oh, no problem, thank you for having me.

3187
02:38:09,160 --> 02:38:11,840
Speaker 3: That's Christina Pink there on the sidelines for Fox.

3188
02:38:11,879 --> 02:38:12,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

3189
02:38:12,080 --> 02:38:13,800
Speaker 2: I mean again, when we talk about you look at

3190
02:38:13,840 --> 02:38:17,320
Speaker 2: matchups like two four and four teams. Falcons have a

3191
02:38:17,400 --> 02:38:19,920
Speaker 2: Heineke and the Vikings don't have a quarterback. Well, they

3192
02:38:19,959 --> 02:38:22,440
Speaker 2: do have a quarterback. I mean, she's talking about this

3193
02:38:22,680 --> 02:38:27,160
Speaker 2: rich where Dobbs didn't even take any snaps this week. No, no, listen,

3194
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Speaker 2: I didn't even know the names of his teammates when you.

3195
02:38:30,160 --> 02:38:33,480
Speaker 1: Get their fresh off of trade. That's what a team

3196
02:38:33,560 --> 02:38:35,680
Speaker 1: is trying to do. They're just trying to get you acclimated,

3197
02:38:35,800 --> 02:38:37,680
Speaker 1: get you introduced to everybody again.

3198
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Speaker 2: But you have a rookie quarterback who's been there, and

3199
02:38:39,800 --> 02:38:41,760
Speaker 2: you're trying to get him up to speed, to get

3200
02:38:41,840 --> 02:38:43,320
Speaker 2: him to go for this game.

3201
02:38:43,480 --> 02:38:46,879
Speaker 1: Well, they're in emergency mode. Would you lose your starting

3202
02:38:46,959 --> 02:38:50,160
Speaker 1: quarterback who was on an expiring deal. But at very

3203
02:38:50,280 --> 02:38:52,560
Speaker 1: least you thought you'd have them throughout the season. You

3204
02:38:52,600 --> 02:38:56,240
Speaker 1: thought you were going to have plenty of time to

3205
02:38:56,320 --> 02:38:59,280
Speaker 1: work with with Jaren Hall to get him up to

3206
02:38:59,360 --> 02:39:02,240
Speaker 1: date and give him maybe a shot next offseason or

3207
02:39:02,280 --> 02:39:06,680
Speaker 1: potentially next season altogether. He's forced into action. You trade

3208
02:39:06,680 --> 02:39:10,480
Speaker 1: for Josh Dobbs because the injury comes before Halloween, and

3209
02:39:10,520 --> 02:39:13,080
Speaker 1: you got an opportunity just to get him, I don't know,

3210
02:39:13,120 --> 02:39:15,320
Speaker 1: into the playbook, maybe on the iPad.

3211
02:39:15,440 --> 02:39:19,039
Speaker 3: I mean, how much time with no snaps, That's my point.

3212
02:39:19,160 --> 02:39:21,480
Speaker 2: I mean that's for him to actually because he was

3213
02:39:21,520 --> 02:39:23,760
Speaker 2: throwing accurate passes to receivers.

3214
02:39:24,560 --> 02:39:25,720
Speaker 3: It was unbelievable.

3215
02:39:25,760 --> 02:39:27,640
Speaker 2: By the way, the Cowboys have just scored on a

3216
02:39:27,760 --> 02:39:32,000
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott to Jake Ferguson pass, so Eagles and Cowboys

3217
02:39:32,040 --> 02:39:36,200
Speaker 2: are tied at one. But I again, people listening in

3218
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Speaker 2: and saying, wow, you know he's throwing the but you

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Speaker 2: have no idea how.

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Speaker 1: Miraculous this was. No, it is believable. He threw the

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Speaker 1: football to I'm counting him right now. He threw the

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Speaker 1: football to nine different receivers. He got TJ. Hockinson involved

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Speaker 1: to the tune of seven receptions. Jordan Anderson Addison, who's

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Speaker 1: the standout rookie wide receiver, five catches for fifty two

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Speaker 1: yards through it to Alexander Madison as well for a

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Speaker 1: touchdown pass earlier in the game that Brandon Powell scored

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Speaker 1: for the win. He also was responsible for rushing a

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Speaker 1: touchdown himself. Josh Stopps took over this game and is

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Speaker 1: the reason why the Vikings won on the road today.

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Speaker 2: So we started our show today with a very quiet

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Speaker 2: first half.

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Speaker 1: That's right there, weren't a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of scores, no big deal.

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Speaker 2: We're like, are we going to see anything today that's

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Speaker 2: going to resemble excitement? And we had some of the

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Speaker 2: most exciting finishes in the NFL this season. This is

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Speaker 2: why ladies and gentlemen, a rich great job today.

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Speaker 3: You always keep it right here. This is Fox Sports

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Speaker 3: Red Zone Radio.