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Speaker 1: We're good to be with you right here on Big

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Speaker 1: Blue Kickoff Live right here on Giants dot Com. Jeff Eagles,

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Speaker 1: John Schmelling for our first game review show of the year.

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Speaker 1: We've been talking about We've been talking about playing the

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Speaker 1: game for a while. We finally got one last night.

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Speaker 1: We learned some things. Um. I have a whole thing

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Speaker 1: and notes here that I'll go through. Um, but Jeff,

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Speaker 1: give me your overall big picture thoughts on the game,

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Speaker 1: and then I'll give mine. Well, I think that the

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Speaker 1: game went accordingly. It's the first preseason game, and you

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Speaker 1: want to kind of get a lot of the the

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Speaker 1: kinks out, a lot of communication, new new staff, um,

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Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. So uh, you know, the

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Speaker 1: coaches have to be able to talk from the press

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Speaker 1: box down to the field. So and coach Sherman had

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Speaker 1: mentioned that he thought he went pretty well as far

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Speaker 1: as that goes. UM, from a evaluation standpoint. You got

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Speaker 1: to see some of the starters in there. UM. I

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Speaker 1: think the real takeaway from me on offense was the

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Speaker 1: lack of depth on that offensive line. I think that

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Speaker 1: scares you a little bit. UM. I know as scared

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Speaker 1: as you, John. You don't even have to tell me, UM,

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Speaker 1: but I think we gotta. Obviously, we saw a little

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Speaker 1: bit of Sir Quon Barkley and what he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to do. UM. I think defensively, UM, I thought

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Speaker 1: just because I think the defense is a little bit

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Speaker 1: easier to UM. I guess to pick up and and

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Speaker 1: didn't see that. I did. I saw a couple of

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Speaker 1: good things. They did stop the run. They did stop

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Speaker 1: of the day, when you talk to Dave Gentleman and

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Speaker 1: he says we're gonna try to we are gonna run

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Speaker 1: the football on offense, and we're gonna stop the run

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Speaker 1: on defense, I think they They definitely did both of

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Speaker 1: those yesterday. So that's my takeaway. Special teams. I thought

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Speaker 1: Rody Dixon did a nice job punting the football. Arthrew Lewis,

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Speaker 1: good he has to because that's the way he's gonna

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Speaker 1: He's the one way he'll have to make the team

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Speaker 1: is playing some special teams. A nice tackle on punk

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Speaker 1: coverage to Sharp was very active in this game yesterday

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Speaker 1: when you think, I know, absolutely and you know we

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Speaker 1: can't have that, and especially you know when you're trying

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Speaker 1: kickoff return. Though he did have one point return where

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Speaker 1: he went a little bit too much east west and

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Speaker 1: and I thought of the wide receivers, he was not

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Speaker 1: thought he was probably the most active of that grew

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Speaker 1: absolutely and and that that group is fighting for those

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Speaker 1: talked about in the pregame yesterday, well maybe what what

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Speaker 1: what area of the team seems to think that's going

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Speaker 1: to be the most competitive. I think it's probably at

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Speaker 1: all right, by big picture thoughts, I thought the first

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm not looking for anything. You know, people

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Speaker 1: football and quickly continue from a penalty standpoint, not a

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Speaker 1: lot of penalties in this game when you usually they

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Speaker 1: had thirteen. The Giants had four, and I thought the officials,

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Speaker 1: first one to helmet. I believe it was Denzel Ward

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Speaker 1: it was the Giants first drive. Um? Well, no, it

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Speaker 1: was the taunting foul against Um. Yes, it was. It

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Speaker 1: was a taunting well, the taunting foul and lander. Yes,

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Speaker 1: was Denzel Ward. And then they started talking afterwards. Ward

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Speaker 1: how you play, So it is an important one. Now,

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Speaker 1: I do know. I did hear on the radio this morning.

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Speaker 1: right thing to do. All right, um my big takes.

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Speaker 1: Momy made a nice play to get into the second

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Speaker 1: So after that, UM, I would have liked to see

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Speaker 1: hod Helly thank you. The former Steelers offend you? How

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Speaker 1: And that's what he says in the staff meeting, and

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Speaker 1: and Hugh Jackson basically says, this is my team. I'm

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Speaker 1: and that's what I'm gonna do. You should have saw

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Speaker 1: That's what he's doing. And he went out and got

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Speaker 1: se Kwon Barkley and he is going to be fun

428
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Speaker 1: to watch. And they actually did a pretty good I mean,

429
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Speaker 1: to me, that was the strength of the Giants. You

430
00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,720
Speaker 1: take out the thirty nine yard run by and just

431
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Speaker 1: to the number, they're still over almost their four point

432
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Speaker 1: six four seven k take that three nine yard out

433
00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,639
Speaker 1: there twenty two carries for nineties six yards, Okay, so

434
00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,960
Speaker 1: twenty five yards, so yeah, there four and a half

435
00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,160
Speaker 1: yards exactly. So I think they ran the ball well,

436
00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:10,720
Speaker 1: and they had and they held the Browns the thirty

437
00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,359
Speaker 1: three carries for just fifty yards. Now, so that's really

438
00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,439
Speaker 1: good rush defense and really good rush offense, which and

439
00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,200
Speaker 1: what they've got and offensively, Typically these first games, whether

440
00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,840
Speaker 1: you're the Giants, the Bears, whoever did there, they seem

441
00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,359
Speaker 1: to be sloppy. They're always no, we haven't, no one's

442
00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,879
Speaker 1: tackled or played in. But I thought that Giants played

443
00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,760
Speaker 1: a very clean game. Four penalties, no turnovers, and they

444
00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,679
Speaker 1: and they forced it turnover and recovered it, which, by

445
00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,440
Speaker 1: the way, coach Shermer's press conference last night really made

446
00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,680
Speaker 1: a lot of sense when he said, when you get

447
00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,000
Speaker 1: a turnover, you you know you forced one. It's not

448
00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,560
Speaker 1: about getting it, it's what you do after it, and

449
00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,680
Speaker 1: that is they went in and scored a touchdown points

450
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Speaker 1: after turnover. I see the full bank of Coll's going

451
00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,439
Speaker 1: to get to him in just one second at two

452
00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,359
Speaker 1: o one nine four or five one three. But I

453
00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,360
Speaker 1: gotta mention Baker Mayfield just from an NFL perspective, He's

454
00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,760
Speaker 1: he's gonna be he's gonna be a player. Jazz and

455
00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,479
Speaker 1: he talked about him while both of us liked him.

456
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Speaker 1: He was my back after Donald Lancey was his number

457
00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,920
Speaker 1: one guy. I'll give him credit for that. He looked

458
00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,920
Speaker 1: and I tell you what what I what I liked

459
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,399
Speaker 1: about him to to two things that stood out to

460
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Speaker 1: me immediately, actually three. The first one is I think

461
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,359
Speaker 1: he has very good I think he can be a

462
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,240
Speaker 1: pocket passer. He can throw from the pockets. He's not

463
00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 1: a guy that skinnish is gonna get outside the pocket

464
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,159
Speaker 1: and panic. You saw him standing there and throw the

465
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Speaker 1: second of all three four three. Okay, So a guy

466
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Speaker 1: that coming out of college and his first NFL preseason

467
00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 1: and whatever you wanna call it. He's going down, he's

468
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Speaker 1: making his progressions. And the third thing that impressed me,

469
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Speaker 1: I had my binoculars up there because we are so high,

470
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Speaker 1: you know that, John, how far we are? And I'm

471
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Speaker 1: just checking out after he scores touchdown and we threw

472
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Speaker 1: a touchdown. How the how the team was responding to him, Dude,

473
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,240
Speaker 1: they were all over him. They liked it. Oh my god,

474
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Speaker 1: they were number two. He went right from number one,

475
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 1: the number three pocket presents team reaction? What was number two?

476
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Speaker 1: No pocket? Pocket presents and you've been being able to

477
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 1: be a pocket. I think he can throw from the

478
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Speaker 1: pocket rather than trying to get outside the number one.

479
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,879
Speaker 1: The second thing it smarts, I think, smart progressions. You know,

480
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 1: it's been making some good, good decisions. Another good decision

481
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,920
Speaker 1: I saw he had when when the coverages was good,

482
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Speaker 1: threw the ball out of bounds. Okay. And the third

483
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 1: one was obviously the way that he's a leader. And

484
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw a fourth one. And this I thought

485
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 1: was an unfair um complain against him when he got drafted.

486
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 1: And I still think it is. Guy's got good enough

487
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,160
Speaker 1: form to play in this league. He is a good

488
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 1: How about that play where he was running scramble and

489
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Speaker 1: run into the sideline, had to throw kind of across

490
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,120
Speaker 1: his body thirty yards down the field and the guy

491
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Speaker 1: run that little comebackground after the play for the first down. Dude,

492
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 1: that was that's elite arm strength right there. And speaking

493
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 1: of guys that um, you know, speaking of some big place.

494
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,160
Speaker 1: The Giants defense gave up a couple of third and long,

495
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 1: second and long and fourth. They gave up a fourth

496
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Speaker 1: down play. And you know Baker Mayfield and and even

497
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor, these are two quarterbacks when they're very synonymous

498
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Speaker 1: with the teams that the Giants are gonna be playing

499
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 1: like their quarterbacks like you know you're looking here. You

500
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 1: you got Jacksonville, Dallas, Houston, and New Orleans. All those

501
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 1: guys can run around and throw the football, right, who's

502
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,959
Speaker 1: here with the football? That's all right? Don't you think

503
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 1: it's in the shot? Jeff, you're fun talking about this.

504
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 1: You're an idiot to a one three? Why would have

505
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 1: hold the football? Night? Four five one three? Let's start

506
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 1: off on the phones, Dave. Let's go to Daniel in

507
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: Colorado farst. He leads us off on Big Dane. Daniel, say, Daniel,

508
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Speaker 1: how are you hey? Good afternoon, John and Jeff. You

509
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Speaker 1: guys since the draft. It's good to hear from you.

510
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 1: Daniel's up, you're gonna tell us you were going to draft.

511
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Speaker 1: All the Giants fans watched the game last night, and uh,

512
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Speaker 1: I would like to say there was the good, the bad,

513
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 1: and the ugly. There was um, but it was really

514
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Speaker 1: more of the good and ugly, right in my personal opinion.

515
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Speaker 1: I'll comment, I'll tell you what I'll comments on that,

516
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 1: and then I have a couple of questions regarding that.

517
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: So we'll start with the good. I think the star

518
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Speaker 1: of the show for the Giants was the run defense.

519
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: I think it looked great. It's fantastic. Um, you know,

520
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 1: not not much to really talk about there. They pretty

521
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,719
Speaker 1: much stuffed every play. I mean, if they can do

522
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 1: that all season long, I'm happy camper with that. UM.

523
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 1: You know. Ums. As far as Barklay, great, he had

524
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 1: that one great play. You know, we're all stoked to

525
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: see something like that. UM. And Kyle Aletta, you know,

526
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Speaker 1: I thought he you know, he had a couple of

527
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: passes that didn't necessarily go anywhere, But I like to

528
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: touch he put on his passes. I like his calm. Yeah,

529
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 1: he was calming toys Daniel and and I think that

530
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 1: was the most important thing with him, because he was

531
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: kind of running for his life a little bit in

532
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Speaker 1: that fourth quarter. But I thought he was very common poise.

533
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Speaker 1: He made a couple of nice throws, a nice touch,

534
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 1: like you said, I think it was a good start

535
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Speaker 1: for him. Can I just say real quick about Kylie.

536
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Speaker 1: He said something his press in after the interview, you

537
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 1: get to do and you get did a nice job interview,

538
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 1: and a lot of people last night, some one thing

539
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Speaker 1: that stuck out with that he said to me, which

540
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Speaker 1: tells me he's been very well coached and with Mike Shula.

541
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Speaker 1: Is the fact that he said, you know that the

542
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Speaker 1: Browns defense were they were kind of putting up a

543
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: front over by the you know, a pick at fence

544
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: by the first down markers. And you know, me, I

545
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 1: had to do my job, and my job is not

546
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: to throw and try to force something in there to

547
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Speaker 1: make a first down and just have to do what

548
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: I can get rid of it. That tells me he's

549
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: a smart guy, and he's listening and he's well, very

550
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Speaker 1: well coached. Yeah, I was. I was pretty happy to

551
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Speaker 1: see that. Um so, so that kind of confers the

552
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: good Um, okay, that's getting badly, you know, and and

553
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Speaker 1: and uh and I'm hoping this can you know, we

554
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: got we got a plan on this, but pass coverage,

555
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: it didn't seem to matter too much which crew was

556
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: on the field or which squad was on the field.

557
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: But that was a little rough on the past coverage.

558
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: I heard you guys talking a little bit earlier about

559
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Speaker 1: giving up some of those third longs that that hurt.

560
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 1: I think one of them was a third and eighteen.

561
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Speaker 1: And there wasn't exactly Daniel, there wasn't exactly a consistent

562
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Speaker 1: pass rush to help out that second there either yeah,

563
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: you know, I guess I could. I guess I want

564
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Speaker 1: to say that too. It looked like it sometimes they

565
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: had a good pass rush, you know, so I was like, Okay,

566
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 1: I know you guys can can do some pass rushing.

567
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: I know you'll get there. But the past coverage, especially

568
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: when you know that that play with Jenkins and and

569
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: Eli Apple, those those you know, those kind of stood

570
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 1: out and it was like, gosh, can we fix that?

571
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 1: Is that something? You know, what what do we what

572
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 1: do we do to kind of what do we do

573
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Speaker 1: to kind of fix that? Because I'll tell you what

574
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Speaker 1: if I was you know, if I had my initial thoughts,

575
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Speaker 1: if if the number one had stayed on the field

576
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: for both teams, I think, you know, Cleveland would have

577
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 1: scored a lot of points. That's just what it felt

578
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: like to me. And that I mean, the game wouldn't

579
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: have gone it wouldn't have even been that close. Um,

580
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 1: you know with that, so you know, I'll get your

581
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: opinion on that. After the next one, which was Davis Webb,

582
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: I think I think we're all a little bit disappointed

583
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: to see him. I heard you guys say earlier than

584
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: he was a little bit, you know, super ampt and

585
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: I guess that's to be expected. Um, you know, strong arm,

586
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you gotta love the kid's arm,

587
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 1: the rocket throws he was making. We're great. UM. And

588
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 1: so my question or my to ask what kind of

589
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: comments you guys have, um again, what can we what

590
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: would we expect to see different, you know, with with

591
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: how they handle pass coverage? UM on the defense? And second,

592
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 1: you know, I'll go ahead, I'll let comment on that

593
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 1: fish up finish. What's number two? And and and so

594
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: you know, I was reading a little bit about Josh

595
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: Allen with the Bills. He's also a real strong armed guy,

596
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 1: and he didn't do real well kind of you know,

597
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: had some issues with his uh decision making and accuracy.

598
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: You know, is this something you feel like, you know

599
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 1: a lot of guys say you can't coach the calm,

600
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: you can't coach the vision and things like that. Where

601
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 1: where do you think Davis kind of fits in this

602
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: you know situation? Here is he is? You know, do

603
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 1: you do you expect him to maybe dropped down on

604
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: the on the you know list, as as as getting

605
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: as many reps with the second team and maybe see

606
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: Kyle jump up and get more reps on the second team. Now, Daniel,

607
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think the Giant's gonna make any

608
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: sort of decision like that. To me, Davis Webb is

609
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: the backup. I'd be very surprised he wasn't the backup

610
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: quarterback on the team this year. Um, you know, Kylo,

611
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: that is a rookie, and it's very hard to rely

612
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 1: on a rookie to be your backup quarterback. I don't

613
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: think that's gonna happen, right and and when you have

614
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: ever missed the games anyway, Um, but I think Webb's

615
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: gonna be your backup. You hope he plays better in

616
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: the next game. You don't make any decisions off of

617
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 1: a quarter and a half or the football or two

618
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: quarters of the football whatever he played in this game.

619
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Speaker 1: And look, I think coming out of school, we knew

620
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,959
Speaker 1: that Davis Webb had the physical tools to do what

621
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: you need him to do. He works hard. He's here

622
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: very late every night. He's here later than any other

623
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: player I've known since I've been here. He works his

624
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: rear end off. He's a great kid. I love him

625
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 1: to death. Um, but a cal remember he played and

626
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: even when he was at attack. He played in a

627
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: air raid system where you're not going back there making

628
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: a million reason. Daniel, thanks for the call. We appreciate it, um.

629
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Speaker 1: And you know, he wasn't asked to do a lot

630
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: of things you ask an NFL quarterback to do. So

631
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: him doing this stuff and practices one thing. To ask

632
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: him to do it in game situations is a completely

633
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: different thing. And Jeff, one thing I've learned that I

634
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: learned this from Kevin Gilbride, who you know does our

635
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: college football package with Paul and I. And Kevin said

636
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: he used to think that was, you know, the most

637
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: important thing for a quarterback was arm strength. It's not.

638
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: And Pat Shermer said that when when they drafted Kyle Loletta.

639
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: To me, it's four or five on the list. I

640
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: mean accuracy, the ability to process, the ability to think quickly,

641
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: the ability to just see what's happening and making you know,

642
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: quick decisions. I'll take a guy with a C plus

643
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: B minus arm that does all those other things great

644
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: that a guy that is an A plus arm. But

645
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: there's a B, R, a C and all those other things. So, uh,

646
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: look at Jeff George, it's gonna it's gonna take some time.

647
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: Davids Webb needs naps in games. He doesn't. He's hope

648
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: he's going to get better. But that's that's all it

649
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: is with Davis's way, He's he doesn't ever get He's

650
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: never gonna get a chance to have four or five

651
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: games with his belt and he's gonna you know, they

652
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: think about the third game. He's gonna get a quarter

653
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: to play in the third game. Yea, he should. He

654
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: should get two quarters in game two with this, So

655
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: it's not I mean if you go back and look

656
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: at the same situation with Ryan Nassa, you know, his

657
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: his his first couple of times and he went out.

658
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: Actually I remember the first time he went out, he

659
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: was very good, Ryan Nassa, and then never gets a

660
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: chance to play. And you know what it's it's those

661
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: guys in like in training camp, they're running. It's it's

662
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: just it's very hard to to have David's Webb go

663
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: out there and evaluate him that he's going to be

664
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: your starting quarterback. But I think he'll be your second quarter, second,

665
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: second quarterback. But like we said earlier, doesn't matter, John,

666
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: it really doesn't matter. It doesn't matter who it is.

667
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: You know, so unless something happens, then we've gotta think

668
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: about it. Let's go to Lloyd in Philly online for

669
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: Mr Dominic. What's up Lloyd? Lloyd, Hey, I guess y'all

670
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: you're saving Charlie for the the last time. Yeah, we leave Charlie.

671
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: Charlie's coming, but he's not next. I will bring Charlie

672
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: up when I'm emotionally prepared for him. I'm not sure

673
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: when that's gonna be. We'll see. I want you to

674
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: make sure that he apologizes for nicknaming Mr Illness for

675
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: Robert Thomas, because Mr Illness looked really good, just like

676
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: the first round, really good last night. He put them

677
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: on the ground void. It's funny after that big sack Um,

678
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: the way we were set up in the radio booth,

679
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: LANs and Jeff, who did the post game, we're watching

680
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: in the back and I'm kind of in the second

681
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: row um producing the game with Chris Cruineo Sewan Harrol

682
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: last night. And as soon as he makes the sack,

683
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: I look back at Jeff and Lan. That's a heck

684
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: of a play and Jeff just puts his bold hands in.

685
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: There goes Mr Illness, the classic nickname that it was

686
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: the best nickname ever, Mr Illness. Now I didn't I

687
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: actually by his first name. He actually did. Lloyd, you're right,

688
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: Robert Tom said a nice little game last night. He

689
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: absolutely did. Yeah. Actually, Jeff your your microphone is blasting

690
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: in the in my ear here. But I don't matter

691
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: as much as you have to call it the other listener,

692
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: But I'll turn myself down. You're good, You're good. Now,

693
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: you're good. We'll handle it all the name. Also, Charlie

694
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: olds Eric Flowers an apology because he said that he

695
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: would trade him for a bag of baseballs or doughnuts

696
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: or whatever. Um, Eric Flowers looked good, right tackle. He

697
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,239
Speaker 1: was fine. I mean, honestly, Lloyd, there wasn't anything out

698
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: there that was spectaclar. He wasn't bad, but he was

699
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: didn't know anything bad enough for us to talk about him.

700
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: How about that it was only played twelve snaps, so yeah, Well,

701
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: I'll rewatched the game on NFL game Pass, so I

702
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: only saw the abbreviated version, but I kept rewinding just

703
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: to see how the different guys on the old line look. Um,

704
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: will her Nandez looked good. I think Nate Soldier had

705
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: somebody jumped the snap on him. I think us Garrot

706
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: offsides on them. And then that stunt that you guys

707
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: were talking about a little bit earlier. I think that

708
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: was the only thing that I saw where there might

709
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: have been a miscommunication. Everything else looked pretty good for

710
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: the first preseason game. In my opinion, it was fun.

711
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: It was fun. The greatest thing about this this preseason

712
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: game was that the Giants came out of it healthy,

713
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: which is always I was a really good thing. Yeah. Um,

714
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,719
Speaker 1: I'll get time to the other call. So I just

715
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: wanted to say, Um, I'm pumped up about the season.

716
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: I'm hopeful that we'll do a little bit better than

717
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: eight and eight. Um. I was kind of projecting us

718
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: between eight and eate and UM ten ten and six range. Yeah,

719
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: and um the rest of the division. I'm excited because

720
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: the rest of the division looks good too, So you know,

721
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens, but hopefully we can pound out

722
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: the other the other teams outside of our division. UM.

723
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: I'll call in a little bit later. Thanks for having

724
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: me on as on the game last night, and I'll

725
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: be listening a little bit late. Appreciate A. Lloyd, Thank

726
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: you very much for the call. I got a bad

727
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: feeling about this, Hellelujah losing his mind. Mr Illness, he

728
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: wasn't right jokes. I am happy, Mr Illness. Heay, John,

729
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: you must have got your emotional stability worked up here.

730
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: You put me on right away. What happened, Well, the

731
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: caller mentioned your name, and once somebody mentioned your name

732
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,959
Speaker 1: right to it. What was that horrible movie where if

733
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: you mentioned the guy's name three times in the mary

734
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: shows up and he comes after you. No, there was,

735
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: there was. There was another horror movie that had it

736
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: to anyway, you're kind of like that, Charlie. Hey, look

737
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: I'll start I'll start off with a couple of positive okay. One,

738
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: we didn't have a lot of penalty and we had

739
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: no turnovers. Yeah, okay, but we still can't cover tight ends.

740
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: You're right, Apple, I said that I was about to

741
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: watch him and Flowers and Apples turned his head around

742
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: so much he put himself right out of bounds on

743
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: a play and Flowers. I give this D plus. He

744
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 1: was okay, but not great, not good. No, I wouldn't

745
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: even say I wouldn't say good. But he was okay.

746
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: So you know that was okay. But you know, we

747
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: can't keep giving you. I mean, the thing that bothers

748
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: me so much. It's like Desert Deserve Desert VU all

749
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 1: over again in the sense we can't score any point.

750
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: I mean, did you look at all the other games

751
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: and all the other quarterbacks, the third and fourth on

752
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: their depth chart, they were they were like hitting bombs

753
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: down the field. Charlie, come on a second. Let me

754
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: just stop you for a saying, come on, this is

755
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: the first preseason game, Charlie, what what do you want

756
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: from this team? They're there to a new offense, a

757
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: new defense, new staff players are I mean, come on,

758
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: give it a little bit of a chance here. The

759
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: first team offense moved the ball fairly well, I mean,

760
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,479
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, so you know what, By the way,

761
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens scored thirty three points, the Ram scored seven. Well,

762
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: the Rams have played one preseason game. The Rams scored two.

763
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: So maybe the Giants will score a little bit more

764
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: in the second game. But you gotta give it, you

765
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: gotta give it a rest for the first game. I

766
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: understand it's the only first, but I'm saying these other

767
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: teams is only their first game too, and they got

768
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the depth chart to throw the ball accurately,

769
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: throwing bombs down the field, looking really good looking, really poised.

770
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: The guy from Green Bay brooding up Rody. But body, oh,

771
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: Charlie's gone. We lose Charlie, Dave, we're gonna have to

772
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: see goodbye. We lost. Charlie was going on a rant.

773
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: I just hung up on himself. I wouldn't lose your

774
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: mind about the how the third string team does with

775
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: Alex Tanney. No, in fact, who cares about the third

776
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: team when you get down to it. Well, the players

777
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: they want to make, of course they do. But I mean,

778
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: if you're gonna go and you're gonna do what Charlie

779
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: just did and critique the team and overall st taking

780
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 1: on the twelve or thirteen plays at the first team,

781
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: overall stats and wins their losses in the preseason don't

782
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: make anything. You evaluate players on an individual basis. That's

783
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 1: the point. Let's go to don in Knoxville, Tennessee. He's

784
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 1: up next day, Donnie boy, good afternoon, John and Jeff,

785
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: how are you? How are you? I gotta talk about

786
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. Last night, most impressed with

787
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: Sequon Barkley that first run the line did a phenomenal

788
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: job of getting him to the outside, and he took

789
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: it the rest of the way. Uh thirty I think

790
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: it was thirty night of forty yards. But that was

791
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: an awesome place. It keeps the feeling of what is

792
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: going to come. Yeah, they had a couple of bad

793
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: plays as far as the Eli sacks, but I give

794
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 1: the the offense kudos for coming with a brand new

795
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: program and the job they did. Uh uh. You know

796
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: you mentioned Eric Flowers before, once again pleasantly surprised to

797
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: see the way he played. However, I gotta go to

798
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball when I look at

799
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: alec Odiltree, Uh, supposed to be the linebacker that is

800
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: going line to line, And yeah, Collins tried to get

801
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: to Mayfield. But when you look at the fact that

802
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: Mayfield was running around and the Giants really couldn't stop him.

803
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 1: And the fact that the Joku uh is a perfect

804
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: example of what the problems were last year, that that

805
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: tight ends run wild. Uh. I'd like to get your

806
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: thoughts on what what yours are on that. Well. I

807
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: don't think many linebackers can cover David and Joku one

808
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: on one. I mean, there's a reason he was a

809
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: first round pick. He's an excellent athlete. And if you

810
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: get and Joku lined up one on one with a linebacker,

811
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 1: I don't care who it is, you know, unless except

812
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: for maybe Luke kick Lee or a Shaan Lee, Um,

813
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a mismatch. So I wouldn't lose my

814
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: mind over that one play. Ogal Tree is a run

815
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: and hit downhill type of guy. I'm not sure he's

816
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 1: gonna be a guy that you want covering people way

817
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: down the field and and things of that nature. Donn

818
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: He's an improvement certainly over what they had last year.

819
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: He's a good football player, But I wouldn't I wouldn't

820
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: freak out and then lose my mind over that one

821
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: particular play. Maybe just trying to hit him off the

822
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage a little bit you had if you're

823
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: releasing that part And that was a question I was

824
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: gonna ask next to you beat me to, uh, you know,

825
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: are we not better off bumping the tight end before,

826
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: you know, at least throw him a little bit off?

827
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: And second of all, wouldn't you want a safety over

828
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: the top. Since it appears that the Giants had difficulty

829
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: covering the tight end. Well, I think that was a

830
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: blitz on that play, and I believe it was man

831
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: to man across the board. And in those situations sometimes

832
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: you don't have the safety over the top to give,

833
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: so I'd have to look at the play again and

834
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: then see exactly what the defensive call was. But don

835
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: I see your point. Appreciate the call, but but don

836
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: they do? They do definitely need to improve on it.

837
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: Absolutely mean this team was atrocious covering tak you buddy, Yeah,

838
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: no problem. They do need to improve on covering the

839
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: tight ends. Because there are a lot of things to

840
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: worry about, ALCOHOLO, you would not be one of the

841
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: things I'm over the last year. Do you remember how

842
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: many what games wasn't in a row that the tight

843
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: end had scored a touchdow? I don't think. I think

844
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: to ask Lance Medal that he is that in his

845
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: notes he's obsessed with it. I gotta think it was eight,

846
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: eight games. It was at least six, at least six.

847
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: I think it was a footy niner game that broke

848
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: that street, right if if I recalled properly, um, you

849
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: know a bad member. I do know that that's true.

850
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: Two five, one three, let's stick on the phone and

851
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: say hi to Collenning Columbia, Maryland, who's been holding the

852
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: longest Highland. Hey, how you doing somebody? Good? Good? Well, good,

853
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: good to see a game. Yeah, I mean that was.

854
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 1: That was kind of fun. It has been a long

855
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: time and uh, you know, just just always good to

856
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: see a game. Um, I was so little disappointed. Um.

857
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: I liked the you know, I like the run game.

858
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: I thought the offensive line held up okay, um, and

859
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: that contributed to the run game. Boy, Martin and Simmons

860
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: are really slashing runners. I mean that was. That was

861
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: kind of fun to watch. Um. Not overly excited about Stewart,

862
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: but I think that will come. You know, five or

863
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: six carries a game, key situation, short yardage, that kind

864
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: of thing. That's a good thing. Yes, yeah, it is.

865
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: You're gonna see a lot of balls. Thank you for

866
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: reminding on on that. Um. Um, depth is a problem

867
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: when we knew it going into the game and has

868
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: showed up in the game. I mean, we've got a

869
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: depth problem at wide receiver. We've got a death problem

870
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: at corner. We've got a death problem along the offensive line.

871
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: You know, the starters have to stay healthy and you

872
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: know we got half a chance. Um, not wrong, h Web.

873
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: I think he'll come along. Um. I made a statement

874
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago after I had seen the

875
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: practice Shahn I thought. I think I came on and declared,

876
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 1: Web ready, Uh you you offered me, you know, wise

877
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: counsel on it raised you know, a couple of points.

878
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 1: But I still think, Um, he's he's gonna be okay,

879
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: and he's the backup quarterback. And I know this isn't

880
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: a real good strategy, but maybe the best thing to

881
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 1: say to Davis Web is, look, Davis, relaxed, your the

882
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,919
Speaker 1: backup quarterback, you know, and and maybe that'll maybe that'll

883
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: settle things down. Um, I think that defensive backfield is

884
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: just it's just going to be a problem all year,

885
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: particularly if somebody had sneaked up. Apple didn't look great

886
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: last night, but he's he's a better player than that.

887
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: I still have confidence in in Apple, along with Shenkins.

888
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: But again, you get to the you know, you get

889
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: to the backups. And we got a real problem when

890
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: we weren't exactly playing the Iron or the league last

891
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: night either. I mean remember that as the team didn't

892
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: win any games. Now, I want to give them a

893
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: little credit. I think that I think they've turned it

894
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: a little bit. They might actually they might actually beat

895
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 1: out the Bankers in their division. They might finish third

896
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: in that division. That's that's that's not a real good team.

897
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: Um here's my closing common game. Great to see football

898
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 1: and great to see the Giants, and I think we're

899
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 1: gonna be okay. I'm I'm zero. Went in on eight wins.

900
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: I'll be very excited. Seven wins, I'll take it. Six wins,

901
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: I'll be very disappointed. But um, you know, let's let's

902
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: go Giants. Um. You know I was a little down

903
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: on the law Letta not last night. Um again after

904
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: after when I saw him and what I started thinking

905
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: about all the depth problems that we have. Why did

906
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: we spend the fourth round pick on a quarterback? You know,

907
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 1: I went, I went back to you know, the draft

908
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: booklets and so forth, and you know, John, you made

909
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: a point very early in the show. Um, there really

910
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: wasn't a whole lot there in the fourth round. I

911
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: know it was early fourth round. What was he was

912
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: inside a hundred? I think in terms of pick, I

913
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: think he was around But she's you go back and

914
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: look the d backs were small, the wide receivers, you know,

915
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 1: the lack of speed was evident. I mean, you look

916
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: at the write ups. He he may have been the best,

917
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 1: He may have been the best player available. Everyone said

918
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: that they thought he was going to be, uh someone

919
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: that went in the top three rounds, and I think

920
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: everyone was surprised he was going to be there on

921
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: the fourth. I thought maybe there were a couple offensive

922
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: tackles Tywell Crosby, the kids from Ohio State Jamarco Jones,

923
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: But other than that, I thought I thought Lotto was

924
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: really good value. I thought he'd be off the born

925
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 1: at third round, so I think getting him to the fourth.

926
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: Let me say one more thing about the Letta that

927
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: that Jeff alluded to to He he threw out Richmond there,

928
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 1: and I think Jeff knows and John we've talked about before.

929
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: You know, he came out of that leadership program at

930
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: pet Richmond. This guy's he may maybe the talent level

931
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 1: isn't going to be there, but this guy is calm,

932
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: cool and collected. He's got that. He's got that. I

933
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: got a feeling about that guy. He may not be

934
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 1: you know, talent wise strong, you know, not the strongest arm,

935
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: getting the ball down and fielding that kind of thing.

936
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: But I think he's he's got a head on him.

937
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: This guy is gonna hang around this league for a

938
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: long time because he's a really and I like that

939
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. All right, hey, John, have fun

940
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: in Detroit. All in, all in, let us know what's

941
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: going on. How we look in those you know scrimmages.

942
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: Ill host once the game Friday night. Friday is Friday night. Yeah,

943
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: so we're we're flying out. Well, I'll be hosting the

944
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: show on Monday afternoon. We're flying out on Monday night,

945
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: and then I'll be calling into the show's Tuesday, Wednesday

946
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: and Thursday from Detroit. Wow, vacation in Detroit. Let's not

947
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: throw that v world around please, Hey, let's go. Hey,

948
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,959
Speaker 1: let's go Giants. Thank you, Lenn, appreciate it. If my

949
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: wife heard you say, oh, vacation Detroit, coming time, me

950
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: to the chair and it's not gonna be a vacation, No,

951
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: not by any means. So let's say. Dave added here

952
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 1: um one to three, four, five, six, seven, eight. Ten

953
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: straight weeks were a tight end, quite a touchdown eleven

954
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: total over ten weeks and that's where it came from.

955
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: So uh and the final game was the Niner game

956
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: and that was a Garrett Selling forty seven yard touchdown

957
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: in that games. So that's where kind of wound up. Okay,

958
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: what week was? That was Week seventeen, so ten week

959
00:45:55,560 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: ten weeks going back to weeks seventeen of through week

960
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: ten last year, it was that was the streak. Jordan Read,

961
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: Jason Winn, Rik Ebron zach Ertz, Cameron Brad Hunter, Henry

962
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: Jacob Hireman, Jimmy Graham, Tyler Higbee, and Garrett Seller. Good job,

963
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: Dave Dominic. I don't know who you have found that,

964
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: but that's a very good fined by you. Four or

965
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: five one, three up? Back to the phones, Mike in Pennsylvania.

966
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 1: He's up next, They Mike, John, Jeff, how are you doing?

967
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: What's happening? Oh? Not too march, not too much, A

968
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: good day football recovery. Finally, John, were you locking snaps?

969
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: By chance? What player are you asking about? Um? Well,

970
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: we're really interested in Grant Haley. Oh um, let me

971
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: see if Pro Football Focus has that up. I was

972
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: not logging defensive snaps or some offensive players that I

973
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: do have the numbers. Four like Lolett. I think he

974
00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: played sixteen or so. Patricia on Twitter, she's just put

975
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: him out ago. Let me see if Pro Football focus

976
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: that up here, they might. Um, what's your other question?

977
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,919
Speaker 1: The starting five offensive lineman, I think most of them

978
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: played around twelve or that. I can tell you the

979
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: starting five offensive line played one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,

980
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,439
Speaker 1: sixteen snaps. Okay, Well, I hopefully we see that number

981
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: increased a little more than a week ago. So I

982
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: was wondering, Uh, how do you feel about Grant Haley

983
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: making the team after last night making I think he

984
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: is a shot. I thought he was okay last night.

985
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: I thought he was better than some of the other

986
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: corners and defensive backs. I didn't think he was quite

987
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: as good as b W webb. Um. They've kind of

988
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: moved them out of the slot in camp this summer.

989
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 1: He's been playing outside primarily. He had some gunner work

990
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: on special teams two in the second half. I thought

991
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: he did okay. I think he's put himself in decent

992
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: position if plays well in off the last few weeks

993
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: to make the team. And also he's he coming out

994
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 1: of college, a good special teams guy. So I think

995
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: that's good. He's a playmaker, yeah, and so I think

996
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: that you know, that will help him. Um, but I

997
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: agree with John. I think he's got a shot. I

998
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: think he really does. And um, you know, if you

999
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 1: were listening to our last caller when Land was he

1000
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: was kind of talking about the depth at that cornerback

1001
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: in position, it's it's it's it's very thin. So he's

1002
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 1: got a shot. He really does right. Right, Speaking of which,

1003
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: I was wondering if we as a fame base k

1004
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: act with DRC, if he signs a minimum wage contract

1005
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: and we all chip in and make him a top

1006
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: five selling journey. Please that goes both ways to DRC

1007
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: and a fan base. But that's what I've got and

1008
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: I'll appreciate everything. Guys, You're welcome call. I just read

1009
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: on Twitter yesterday a DRC is going is going to

1010
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 1: be working out for the CRS. I've heard that a lot.

1011
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: He's always going somewhere and then never actually happened. So

1012
00:48:58,400 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: I'll believe that. One I see him trying to find

1013
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: is Grant Haley snap numbers for you. UM, Pro football

1014
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: focuses on have it up yet? Um, the NFL's website.

1015
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: Might let's go back to the phones at two one,

1016
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 1: five on three. David Cranford, He's up next. Hi, Dave, Hey,

1017
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: Stefan Town. How you guys doing. Hey, I just wanted

1018
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: to translate when when our friend from Maine calls in

1019
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:27,240
Speaker 1: and gives Eric Flower as a sea or an average grade. Um,

1020
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: in reality, that's like, you know, maybe a B plus

1021
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: or an eight minus. Uh. Yeah, by the way, this

1022
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: is Luca's offense, Jeff dude defense for me. Let me

1023
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: go back. Sorry, that's okay, UM, let's see that's just

1024
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: the offense answers. Anyway, I'm sorry we got distracted that.

1025
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: What was your question? You know? My my my point was,

1026
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, again, first games, preseason, the

1027
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: amount of analysis in terms of the franchise and where

1028
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 1: we're heading and all the decisions. It's it's over the top,

1029
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: but that is what it is. We're all hungry for

1030
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: or for the football season. I actually think that you

1031
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: have to look at the offensive line, and by the way,

1032
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: I think the backup offensive line as well. Um, I

1033
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: think you saw a lot of things to be very

1034
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: positive about. I think they they made some mental errors.

1035
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: You know, as they call him the Emmy's and you know,

1036
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: a pick up of a blitz with Halapio and the

1037
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: running back and and kind of a stunt and whatever.

1038
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: But but they weren't overpowered physically, and that's a huge

1039
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: difference from last year. They actually held up very well.

1040
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 1: And I think if you look at Flowers in particular,

1041
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: who I've been very hard on um and I'm not

1042
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: a big fan of but I think at the end

1043
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: of the day, you know, for his first game at

1044
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: right tackle in a long time, I think he did.

1045
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: You know, I think you did very you know, in

1046
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: relative speaking, I think he did very well. And I

1047
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: think there's a lot to build on. I think the

1048
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: two big position groups were, you know, what was the

1049
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: offensive line going to do? And what's our depth in

1050
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: the secondary? And I think the the bottom line is

1051
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,919
Speaker 1: we didn't answer the depth in the secondary. But it

1052
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: is still a big question out there. But they're throwing

1053
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 1: everybody out there, and they're they're playing it like, hey,

1054
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna see what we have. But I think you've

1055
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: got to look at the offensive line and say, you know,

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00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: even the second offensive line, I think they did very well. Well,

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00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: we hope so I mean I think that, you know,

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00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,760
Speaker 1: you look at the way that this team is being built.

1059
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: It's being built very slowly, and it's gonna have to

1060
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: you know, you're not automatically going to have those two

1061
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: deep players that can can come in and start for

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00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: you if they have to, and they're gonna be really

1063
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: that good. It's just it's gonna take time to develop them.

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00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: And I'm glad that you see that. I think you

1065
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 1: you hit the nail on the head with the secondary

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00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: that we've got a lot of work to do. Um,

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00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: when the Browns can come out and throw for you know,

1068
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: three something yards on you, that's not a good sign. No, no,

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00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: no question, just but I but I think they at

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00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I think they know that

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00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: you're talking about a game. The interesting part was remember

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00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: the plays that got a lot of attention with with

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00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: um Rhett Ellison where Eli and Redd Ellison were on

1074
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 1: the same page and he missed them. If you look

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00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: at it closely, um Sterling Shepard was literally in the

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00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,959
Speaker 1: left side of that play with his hands wide open

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00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: with no one around him. I mean he was like

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00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: jumping up and down. Um it's it's it's if you

1079
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: look at it. It would be amazed at how wide

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00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,240
Speaker 1: open it was. A blown coverage And and if Eli

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00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: had seen him, you're talking about seven points out of

1082
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 1: three instead of three there in terms of a field goal.

1083
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 1: He was completely wide open. I don't know how he

1084
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: I didn't see him, but he didn't. And um, so again,

1085
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: you know, one play tends to change the perception of

1086
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 1: a lot of people. I look at it and say, hey,

1087
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 1: I think they they you know, I think our biggest

1088
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,720
Speaker 1: question is offensive line in terms of where the offense

1089
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: can go. I think our second is the secondary in

1090
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,240
Speaker 1: the depth. But I look at it and say, hey,

1091
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: they didn't get manhandled physically. They were able to hold up.

1092
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: Barkley is gonna make a lot of these guys look

1093
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: better than they are, which is which is great. Um,

1094
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: he's got some things to in terms of pushing the whole.

1095
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 1: But but I, um, I don't think a lot of

1096
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 1: the you know, I don't think the army getting kind

1097
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 1: of kind of view is justified. So you guys have

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00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: a great time, John, have a safe trip. Thanks while

1099
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: you're out there, and thanks for taking my question. And

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00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: by the way, folks, there shouldn't be any army getting

1101
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: there shouldn't be any glory. Didn't that last year pre

1102
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: season game? Everyone don't like the overreact, I think to

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00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: the first fifteen snaps of football these guys have taken

1104
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:34,240
Speaker 1: in eight months. Relax, Let's look at these preseason games

1105
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: as as going out there and kind of great in

1106
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: him as a practice, because that's kind of what they are.

1107
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 1: There's no game planning that players don't even get. They

1108
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: don't even get. They don't even know who they're playing against.

1109
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, they really don't. They don't get.

1110
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: There's no game plans. They don't there's nothing handed out

1111
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: like they do in regular season. And that's one thing. Yeah,

1112
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: they really mean. They did one carded practice for this,

1113
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: but they didn't do any scouting a personnel. They didn't

1114
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: do any scouting of what the brands do offensive and defensively.

1115
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't do nuts and and and and take

1116
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: it that seriously. Um, I know we only have a

1117
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: couple of minutes, but let's talk a little bit about

1118
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: Detroit next week, because I really am encouraged about these

1119
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: joint practices. I'm a huge fan of them. I like them, Tom.

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00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,439
Speaker 1: I think the last time that I went to Cincinnati

1121
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: a few years ago with you, John, I got so

1122
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: much out of watching that practice and just understanding that.

1123
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: You know, there's so much emphasis put on the games,

1124
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: but these practices to me. And in a prime example

1125
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: of this is I mentioned that the Baltimore Ravens and

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00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: they um the l A. Rams game last night. The

1127
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: Rams sat out most of their starters because the coaches

1128
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: felt that they got enough work during the week against

1129
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: the joint practices that they did not need to see

1130
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: them in the games. And as you go back and

1131
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: look at the last few years, how many of these

1132
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: teams are doing these joint practices. This will be a

1133
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: really good test for this football team going up against

1134
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: Detroit team who's not bad, they're a good team and

1135
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: a lot of depth on that team. So I'm excited

1136
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, you have to be. I mean, look,

1137
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: you only get so many snaps from each guy in

1138
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: one of these game. Like we talked about, the first

1139
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: team played sixteen snaps. Davis would probably play with like,

1140
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: let me start sixteen snaps, one on one snaps with

1141
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: the guy across from you. They're going to get that

1142
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: in practice the first twenty minutes. That's my point. And

1143
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 1: so you're you're gonna see you have a lot more

1144
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: on tape to judge from joint practices that you have

1145
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: from any games. And again you're not tackling, so obviously

1146
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: that's that that's a big difference, no argument there. But

1147
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: you aren't going against your own guys either, So and

1148
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: you're going these are guys, these guys are now because listen,

1149
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: I will tell you from experience and watching practice and

1150
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: John you know this too when you're out of practice field. Yeah,

1151
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: you say you're going, it's not really a hundred percent

1152
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,720
Speaker 1: against not against your own guys. Against the Detroit Lions

1153
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 1: next week, it will be and h p because these

1154
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 1: guys now know they're being they're being evaluated against another team.

1155
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: You know they'll be some pushing and shoving, but I

1156
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: will do to the two teams have to understand they

1157
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: have a purpose what they want to do there, because

1158
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 1: it can turn into it you know what it can be. Remember,

1159
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia did this for a long time in the Bibelichicks.

1160
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: He's a lot of experiences with these cross practices. I'm

1161
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: not sure what Charmer's history is with them in terms

1162
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: of when he was a head coach or even a coordinator.

1163
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: But I think Chip Kelly when he was I think

1164
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly and Philly did joint practice, so I imagine

1165
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: he had some experience there. They might have also, I'm

1166
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: not positive, so I think they'll be fun. Good stuff, Jeff,

1167
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: good stuff. Everybody have a good weekend. Absolutely. Jeff will

1168
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: be on a couple of times next week too, right

1169
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 1: I am. I think I'm on Wednesday and Thursday or

1170
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday next week. Yeah, excellent, So make sure

1171
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Speaker 1: you're tuning to Jeff Eagles. I'll be hosting on Monday.

1172
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: Then we're leaving for Detroit and I'll call in with

1173
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 1: updates from Giants lines joint practices next week with Lands,

1174
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: Jeff and Paul. For Jeff Eagles, I'm John Schmilk. Everybody,

1175
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: have a fantastic weekend. There's more football this weekend, so

1176
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: make sure you tune in NFL Network over they have it.

1177
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: Sam Donald makes his debut and I'll be tuned into

1178
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: that and PGA Championship. If you really like random aside

1179
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 1: and Yankees going for five in a row, I'll throw

1180
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: that in there too. Everybody, have a great weekend. Take

1181
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:55,919
Speaker 1: it easy,