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Speaker 1: This the one Bill's Live, presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to a toasty toasty training camp here at Saint

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Speaker 2: John Fisher. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker for the second week.

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Speaker 2: I know it hasn't been a full week of training

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Speaker 2: camp yet because they started on Wednesday last week, but

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Speaker 2: we're into week two. As far as we're concerned with

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Speaker 2: training camp here. Day five now in the books and

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Speaker 2: probably one of the warmest that we've had thus far.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it was a morning practice.

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Speaker 1: I got a huge I got a yawn first, really huge.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna slunch down in this chair like that. I'm

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Speaker 1: sitting like this the entire show that.

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Speaker 2: Steve's ready to take a nap. So hot. He's one

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Speaker 2: of those guys that is so impacted by the heat

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Speaker 2: that he's put into a sleep stupor. He just asked

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Speaker 2: to take a vote to take a pre show nap.

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Speaker 1: We all need to take a pre show nap. It

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Speaker 1: was so hot out there today.

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Speaker 2: I really was.

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Speaker 1: This shirt's ruined. I mean, I can't wear it again.

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Speaker 2: I think you'll be just run it through the wash,

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Speaker 2: you'll be fine. So Steve was not here on Thursday

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Speaker 2: and Friday, and he didn't get a chance to hear

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Speaker 2: about my how do we describe this my adventures? Thursday

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Speaker 2: evening into Friday morning. We were out for a department

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Speaker 2: outing Thursday evening or executive producer Jay and I got

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Speaker 2: back I'd say round ten thirty, and en route back

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Speaker 2: from the events site, I realized I did not have

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Speaker 2: my dorm room key. Dorm room key, so this is

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Speaker 2: not a good situation because it's late and I may

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Speaker 2: or may not get a hold of the people I

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Speaker 2: need to get a hold of who have key a

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Speaker 2: skeleton key. So I contact our coworker who's in charge

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Speaker 2: of that stuff. No response, so not a problem. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: all right, I'm going to take matters into my own hands.

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Speaker 2: So I'm searching around for a skeleton key in the

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Speaker 2: office space over here. People's I'm trying. I'm trying keys

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Speaker 2: with different numbers. Nothing's working. Put all the keys back

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Speaker 2: where they were, and I tell our executive producer Jay,

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Speaker 2: I said, Jay, I'm on the first floor, like there's

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Speaker 2: a ladder outside behind one of the food trucks. I'm

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Speaker 2: just gonna get on the ladder, pop the screen off,

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Speaker 2: and slide the window open. Because I didn't lock the window,

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Speaker 2: just pop the screen off, go in through the window,

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Speaker 2: and let myself in.

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Speaker 1: That way, I smell a catastrophe.

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Speaker 2: Now here's the problem. We get outside. We get outside,

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Speaker 2: and I'm trying to count the windows, and I'm one

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Speaker 2: of the one of the last ones, one of the

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Speaker 2: last ones at the end of the hall. I was like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not the last window, but am I second to

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Speaker 2: last or am I third to last? I'm not sure,

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Speaker 2: so I start with the third to last window. Now,

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Speaker 2: one of our other coworkers, he knew my predicament. He

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Speaker 2: knew I was trying to get back in my room

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Speaker 2: without my key. He went into his room, whose net

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Speaker 2: which is the net one next to mine, So just

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Speaker 2: to be safe, the shade's down, so I can't see

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Speaker 2: if it's my room. I can't look in the window

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Speaker 2: see if it's my room. I'm up on the ladder.

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Speaker 2: Now Jay's holding the thing. He's like, be careful, brownie.

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Speaker 2: I don't. He's all worried I'm gonna wipe out, you know.

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Speaker 2: I was more worried about security, like picking us off

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Speaker 2: with a rubber bullet or something. So I'm I'm on

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Speaker 2: Nobody answers, and I can't get the screen off anyway,

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, I may have to go another route here.

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Speaker 2: So I'm coming down the ladder and our coworker pops

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Speaker 2: you guys doing? So Alex he was like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I heard her knock at the window. I didn't know

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Speaker 2: what was going on. He was the right it was

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Speaker 1: And it was out of the window. You just knocked on.

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Speaker 2: Well not out, but he opened the shade. So he's like, hey, guys,

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Speaker 2: of the fisher people here, Paul Hemingway, who used to

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Speaker 2: work for us with the bills, and fortunately he was

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Speaker 2: because dude, it was still like eighty degrees at eleven pm.

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Speaker 2: That would not have been a fun sleep in the hallway.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't. At least it was like at ten thirty eleven,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was ten to eleven when he came over

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Speaker 2: hijinks we had Thursday night into Friday here at training camp.

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Speaker 2: But let's get to the news and notes of the day.

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Speaker 2: Bill's notes first. Obviously, as we said, day five of

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Speaker 2: training camp, first day in Pads, head coach Sean McDermott

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Speaker 2: sated his morning press conference he wants a physical and

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Speaker 2: nasty defense and this isn't the first time that we've

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Speaker 2: heard it, but we got a taste of that today.

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Speaker 2: I thought during the nine on seven run game period,

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Speaker 2: I thought Matt Mlana was the spark plug of that group.

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Speaker 2: He and Shaq Thompson were reading plays knifing into the backfield,

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Speaker 2: I mean a defense. Whether it was in that nine

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Speaker 2: stark contrast to last year, I thought Buffalo's defensive line

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Speaker 2: scrimmage and the point of attack pretty well. And evidence

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Speaker 2: of that for me was how the linebackers were free

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Speaker 2: They picked a gap, they were through it. There were

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Speaker 2: And I credit the defensive line for kind of holding

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Speaker 1: You Know who I saw on the D line that

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Speaker 1: I like was Dwayne Carter. Yeah, he had a good

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Speaker 1: day today, A nice day today. While you were doing that,

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Speaker 1: I watched a little love. Then I went down and

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Speaker 1: watching some one on ones pass routes, wide receivers and DB's,

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Speaker 1: which is what we used to do when I was playing.

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Speaker 1: It's universal and it's really nice to see too. I

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Speaker 1: was watching Tredavious Whites out there, Maxwell Harriston's out there

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Speaker 2: Yet he's like.

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Speaker 1: A mother hen. He's like a cranky old hen, pecking

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Speaker 1: around keeping track of Max Harriston. He's he's like, just yeah,

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Speaker 1: nice to see, nice chatter going on. The DB's were

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Speaker 1: just watched the Baltimore playoff game with the Bills. They're

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Speaker 1: playing physical defense in the secondary of this camp, like

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Speaker 1: love the look of it. The receivers. While there's doing

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Speaker 1: the outside. In the physicality with which they're playing right

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Speaker 1: It was a fun day to watch the one on ones.

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Speaker 2: The injury list, unfortunately, is getting longer than it was

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Speaker 2: at the end of last week. Not participating today, Tyrrell

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Speaker 2: Shavers with an ankle injury suffered in Sunday's practice, not

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Speaker 2: was described as general soreness. Rookie wide receiver Cayden Prather

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Speaker 2: the injury list, so too was tight end Dalton Kincaid

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Speaker 2: with knee soreness. Tight End Dawson Knox is off the

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Speaker 2: still not ready to practice with his hamstring injury. Terrell

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Speaker 2: Tyler Bass out today with what was described as pelvic soreness,

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Speaker 2: Van Prang Granger still out with the calf, and Spencer

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Speaker 2: Brown still out with the back. Did see Spencer Brown

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Speaker 2: hopefully there encouraging size.

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Speaker 1: Some of these guys, they disappear sometimes and they're in

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Speaker 1: getting treatment while their guys are practicing because they can

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Speaker 1: do it more freely without you know, ninety guys milling around,

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Speaker 1: So sometimes you don't see the injured guys out of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, with the Bills down receivers, Buffalo signed free agent

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Speaker 2: Junior and undrafted rookie to make room for him on

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Speaker 2: the roster. Bills are down in numbers at receiver. They

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Speaker 2: need guys to take reps Otherwise, you when you lose

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Speaker 2: they're overworked. So you got to get other bodies in

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Speaker 1: That's it's an issue at every NFL training camp because

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Speaker 1: if you get a guy injured, then you know the

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Speaker 1: next guy steps up. Well, you got ninety guys on

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Speaker 1: Those guys got to take all those reps to get

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Speaker 1: the reps for everybody else. The offensive line needs reps,

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Speaker 1: the linebackers, the d line, and you can it obviously.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it makes perfect sense that it gets worse,

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Speaker 2: They don't stop for anything, and they were short at

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Speaker 2: tight end today. We saw Reggie Gilliam working exclusively with

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Speaker 2: the tight ends to kind of help fill the void there.

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Speaker 1: Kin Kayden knocks her both out, So there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of stuff going on in the tight end room that

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have to monitor to make sure they start dropping.

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Speaker 2: The offense did have some bright spots during teamwork today.

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Speaker 2: They had some good plays. Some of their best plays

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Speaker 2: expect during a heavy run oriented team session. Keon Coleman

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Speaker 2: and then undrafted rookie Stephen Gosnell with a forty yard

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Speaker 2: probably some of the highlights on the offensive side of

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Speaker 2: the ball in the passing game. Tackles for loss or

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Speaker 2: tackles for no gain in the run front period. I'll

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Speaker 2: read some of them off for you. Damar Hamlin tackle

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Speaker 2: Damar Hamlin tackle for loss. There was a miss block

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Speaker 1: the whole thing, and he's got to but he's got

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Speaker 1: to communicate it better. And he's got to make sure

432
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Speaker 1: that he can't take anything for granted, he can't think

433
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Speaker 1: Taylor Rap's got it and Taylor Rep doesn't, or he

434
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: can't think that Terren Johnson got the check. He's got

435
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Speaker 1: to make sure of it. At this point, they need

436
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Speaker 1: to get to the next level where he says it,

437
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: they do it, he gets it, and then he can

438
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: do He and Taylor Rap can monkey around back in

439
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 1: the back end without changing anybody or checking anything, and

440
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: everybody trusts that when the ball snap, they're gonna get

441
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Speaker 1: back to where they're supposed to be. That's one of

442
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 1: the issues that you see.

443
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Speaker 3: Guy.

444
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Speaker 1: I think you know, if you're a corner and you

445
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: look around, the safety is not where you think he's

446
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: gonna be. For that coverage flags go off, right. But

447
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: if they know, if they're on the same page with you,

448
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: and they know they've got that disguised thing going and

449
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: they're on board with it, everybody plays and they can

450
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: just turn loose and play. Because all of that stuff

451
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 1: goes on, none of it can be talked about in

452
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Speaker 1: the moment. You got to have code words if you can, maybe,

453
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 1: but you kind of just got to know it, right,

454
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Speaker 1: You just got to know it.

455
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Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, that's true, And I find you know some

456
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Speaker 2: of the way, like the first unit, there hasn't been

457
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 2: much jockeying there in terms of rotating players unless there's

458
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 2: been an injury for e Ample to rel Bernard. The

459
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Speaker 2: only place where we've seen some rotation with that first

460
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 2: team defense has been up on the line, and that's

461
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 2: due to injury. Epanessa was, you know, running at right

462
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 2: defensive end there and then he missed a couple of

463
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Speaker 2: days with injury. Bosa stepped in for him. But as

464
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Speaker 2: I was saying, the other day. It's almost like the

465
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Speaker 2: Bills have a starting D line and a one A

466
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Speaker 2: line because that top group has been or was Rousseau,

467
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 2: Oliver Da Kwon and Epanessa. Now it's Bosa at the

468
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Speaker 2: right end spot. But the one A D line is

469
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Speaker 2: essentially now Epinessa, and then it's Ogan Jobi and Dwayne

470
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 2: Carter and then the other end is Michael Hoyt. I mean,

471
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 2: that's a pretty good four right there, and you haven't

472
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Speaker 2: even gotten to your true true second unit so to speak,

473
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: which oh, by the way, includes TJ. Sanders, Dion Walker,

474
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Speaker 2: Javon Solomon. I mean the depth on the defensive lines.

475
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Speaker 1: Guys. Yeah, it's gonna be fun to see that come together.

476
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: But we still got the two suspensions. We got to

477
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: get through right and and deal with that. But you

478
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: really feel good. And we were watching some one on

479
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: one O line go today and there was some good

480
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: reps on both sides. Oh yeah, it was. It was

481
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: fun and it's it's gonna be, I think, a different

482
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Speaker 1: defensive year for this club.

483
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Speaker 2: You weren't here on Friday, but I thought that was

484
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: one of TJ. Sanders' better days. He flashed, it's not

485
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: down in and down out. But every so often, you know,

486
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 2: every five snaps or so, oh, there's a There was

487
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: one play he had he was up out of his stance,

488
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 2: beat the lineman, I think before the offensive lineman took

489
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Speaker 2: his second step. He just stabbed him with his left arm,

490
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 2: clubbed him with right, and then swam over him. And

491
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: he was in the backfield to the point where Mike

492
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: White had to roll out away from the pressure because

493
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 2: he was on him in a second like he just

494
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: got the snap and here comes Sanders. And that's part

495
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: of that penetrating skill set that he is known to have.

496
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Speaker 2: So I'm hoping that becomes a valuable asset to roll

497
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Speaker 2: through with that rotation.

498
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Speaker 1: Quick pressures as a as a magic it.

499
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Speaker 2: I mean, he was back there like a snap of

500
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Speaker 2: the finger.

501
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Speaker 1: That's that's what you' that's what you want to see.

502
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: That's what we've had thought. You know Ed Oliver was

503
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: going to bring you to the table. That's his forte

504
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: is disruption. When Ed's on man, he is he is

505
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: a little I've been going back and watching some games

506
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: and Ed had some moments last season where he dominated

507
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: and was taken over a series. You know, I think

508
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: a little bit of the angst we have about the

509
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: D line and the way it played last year has

510
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: to do with the way they're utilized. I think guys

511
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: would love it if they could get longer stretches in

512
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: the game.

513
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Speaker 2: You know.

514
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: The rotation thing. I get it keeps them fresh, but

515
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: it does get in the way of setting up offensive

516
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: lineman for later success. Getting to know that.

517
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 2: Guy kind of lulling him to sleep.

518
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: A little bit of that. Think about it. If you're

519
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: in a three hour phone booth with a big dude

520
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: and you're pushing against each other. It's it sounds crazy

521
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: to say it, but it's an intimate relationship. You get

522
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: to know the dude without ever talking to him. You

523
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 1: hear him grunt, you hear what hurt, You see what

524
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 1: works against him, and you see what he does against you,

525
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: and you get to an idea where okay, now I'm

526
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 1: gonna try this. But you never get a chance to

527
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: do that because you're on the bench and there's another

528
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: guy in there rotating. And then you get in there

529
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: and there's a different vibe. Now right, you're back in

530
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: and there's stuff has happened as you're you know. So

531
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Speaker 1: I think a little bit of that is philosophical from

532
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: the Bill's coaching staff and Sean McDermott. They want those

533
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: guys fresh, and it's more important for them to be

534
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: fresh than to maybe get an edge when they're gassed

535
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: where they can have a good rep, you know, by

536
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: setting a guy up over the course of a two

537
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: series even right, I think a little bit of I

538
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: think Ed Oliver would would benefit from some of that maybe,

539
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: but I don't think they're going to change that philosophy.

540
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Speaker 2: Break time for us here. When we come back, we're

541
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Speaker 2: going to be joined here on set at training camp

542
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Speaker 2: by Cole Bishop, Bill's second years safety. He joins us

543
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 2: next here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health

544
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: Fit's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Back here on One Bill's Live

545
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: at training camp at Saint John Fisher Chris Brown, Steve

546
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: Tasker and joined on set now by Bill's safety Cole Bishop.

547
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 2: All Right, Cole, you decided or made the decision at

548
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 2: some point that you were going to spend the bulk

549
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: of your off season in Buffalo. Welcome to a long winter,

550
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: which your experience. This is not Peachtree, Georgia, as you know,

551
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: So maybe just lay out the reasons for that decision

552
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 2: and what you hope to accomplish by saying I'm staying

553
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 2: in Buffalo for almost the duration of the office.

554
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was for an assortment of reasons.

555
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 4: I mean this summer, I you know, I tweaked my

556
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 4: groaning a little bit towards the end, so that was

557
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 4: a big part of it. And then obviously working with

558
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 4: Taylor Rapp was a big thing. Trying to get our

559
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 4: chemistry dialed in. So I mean we saw you, like

560
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 4: you said, we saw you guys pretty much every morning,

561
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 4: so we were just always trying to work together and

562
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 4: you know, get on the same page.

563
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Speaker 1: So there's your second training camp. Everything kind of feels

564
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: different for sure, and this one you've got nineteen NFL

565
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: games under your belt. That's a lot of game, it feels, right,

566
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: It feels like that it's like a third game, third

567
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: season in college, right for it. How different does it

568
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: feel and what do you notice most?

569
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Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot more comfortable obviously on the field, even

570
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 4: off the field, like in the meeting rooms and everything.

571
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 4: Super confident in the playbook. On the field, being comfortable.

572
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 4: The more rech you get, the more freely you can play,

573
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 4: being able to just fly around and not try to

574
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 4: not thinking as much. I mean, today's the first day

575
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 4: of pass but felt a lot better than my first

576
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 4: day of pads last year.

577
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,959
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Right, what did you pull from your film

578
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 2: last year, because I imagine there was time to do

579
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: that in the offseason as well. What did you pull

580
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: from it to personally improve and say I'm going to

581
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: fix that or here's my answer to that, here's my

582
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: solution for that. So when I'm on the field year two,

583
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 2: those things don't crop up for sure.

584
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 4: I Mean a big emphasis in our defense is taking

585
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 4: the ball away. I didn't have any interceptions last year,

586
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 4: so you were close on a couple, though, Yeah, we

587
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 4: gotta make them. That's got to be the difference this year.

588
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 4: So definitely taking the ball away and then just open

589
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 4: field tackling. That's a part of the safety's job and

590
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 4: it's one of the hardest things to do in football,

591
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 4: but that's what we have to do. So being able

592
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 4: to just always make sure we get the guy on

593
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Speaker 4: the ground. So really just those the main things.

594
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 2: That's like the that's the controlled aggression part that you

595
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: kind of have to have, right, I mean, nothing feel

596
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: better than you know, crunching somebody, but at the same time,

597
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: it's almost more it's more important obviously to make the

598
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: tackle than to get a lights out hit. So how

599
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: do you kind of battle that inside you because you

600
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: know you have to play with a certain amount of

601
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: intensity to be successful in this league, but at the

602
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: same time, you don't want to be out of control

603
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 2: where you're missing the chance to make a play.

604
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Speaker 4: I would just say, there's like a time and a place.

605
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 4: You know, if they see you and you see them,

606
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 4: obviously it's an Athony Warner control and make sure that

607
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 4: when they're going to make a move trying to jukey

608
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 4: or something like that, you're under control to make that tackle.

609
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 4: And then if they don't see you coming and they're

610
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 4: not ready for it, that's when you can really be

611
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 4: more aggressive.

612
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Speaker 1: So just kind of known when to do what what?

613
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Speaker 1: What was some of the feedback you got in your

614
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: exit interview when you're better ready to leave, like you

615
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: had your first year under your belt seasons over, what

616
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,239
Speaker 1: were some of the feedback they gave you say, Hey,

617
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Speaker 1: we'd love to see you do this. I love to

618
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: see you do that was what do they see and

619
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Speaker 1: you and then help you in this offseason and give

620
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Speaker 1: you some direction, like more after.

621
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Speaker 4: The season last year, was just making sure I'm communicating well,

622
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 4: being able to run the defense on the back end,

623
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Speaker 4: and then just kind of the other two things I said,

624
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 4: being able to take the ball away open field tackles,

625
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 4: trying to dial on my man coverage. So it really

626
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 4: just those.

627
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Speaker 2: Things, right, and then with respect to that communication on

628
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 2: the field, because it's really you, t Rap, TB, and

629
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Speaker 2: TARN like you four guys kind of really kind of

630
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 2: run the show. I'm guessing TV kind of takes the

631
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 2: lead on that because he's setting the defense off the

632
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 2: break of the huddle, and then maybe just give me

633
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: the path of the communication from there. Does it go

634
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 2: in a specific order where like, all right, we hear

635
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: from Trap, then it's my turn to chime in, like

636
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 2: how does that communication materialize? Pre snap?

637
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Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of the times me and Rapp will

638
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 4: be saying the same things, just our respective sides. Obviously

639
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 4: there's different situations for everything, but obviously TV gets a

640
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 4: call in the headset, gives it to us, and then

641
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 4: you know, we kind of handle more of the coverage

642
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 4: end and what's going on in the secondary and in

643
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 4: the back seven. And then he's set in the front

644
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Speaker 4: and everything like that.

645
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Speaker 1: Gotcha new faces in the room. You know, Max, Todavius

646
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: is back. You never you didn't know today. To Davious,

647
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Speaker 1: he's new to you. How's that group, the entire room

648
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: getting together? A lot of guys in there, good atmosphere,

649
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: he's coming together, for sure.

650
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 4: I'd say we got a close knit group so far.

651
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously we're just gonna keep getting closer as

652
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 4: the training camp goes on and the season goes on.

653
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 4: But all these young guys look great. I mean I'm

654
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 4: still I'm young, obviously, but I mean the rookies and

655
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 4: everything look great. Everybody's messing well together. Todavius looks great.

656
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 4: I mean, he's making plays every day. So it's awesome

657
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 4: having all these new guys.

658
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 2: There's a lot of youth. To your point on your

659
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 2: side of the ball. I mean, you think about as

660
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,959
Speaker 2: you're watching the draft. I don't know if you watched

661
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 2: it live, but five of the first six picks are

662
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 2: on defense. How did that grab you? You're like, oh, okay,

663
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 2: we're gonna have some horses here. Like, how are you

664
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 2: watching that? Unfold? Seeing the emphasis there was on the

665
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 2: defensive side, of the Ball here by Brandon Bean.

666
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't say I was like, you know, dialed

667
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 4: in on the TV or anything like that, but obviously

668
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 4: you see it on social media and everything. But it's

669
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 4: good to see. I mean, we got a lot of

670
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 4: guys where we needed them. They look like great players.

671
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 4: Like I said, I mean, today's first day of path

672
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 4: so I haven't seen the film, but up until now they've.

673
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 2: Been making plays.

674
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 4: So I'm excited to see what they're gonna do.

675
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: What about you, Max Harriston, he comes in as a

676
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: corner plays. You know you're gonna be right there with him.

677
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: You've seen Brown and I've watched He's he's an athlete.

678
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: I mean, he's sure and fast, got smooth hips. You know,

679
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: he's backpedal and his head's not moving. I mean, he's

680
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: you know, just smooth transitions. Give give us a little

681
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: bit of you know, how that factors into, you know,

682
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: the way you guys work back there. He's obviously I

683
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: saw Todevius dapping him up, and Todavius is almost like

684
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: an old hen hanging around Max, you know what I mean.

685
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: So there's a little bit of that going on, right.

686
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously I'm sure he's trying to be a great

687
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 4: mentor for him while also competing. But like you said,

688
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 4: he's a great athlete.

689
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 5: I'd say that.

690
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 4: It's more on, you know, the play color with Bobby,

691
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 4: you know, depending on what he wants to do with

692
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 4: if you have a guy that he thinks is more

693
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 4: athletic in certain situations. But for us, we're still gonna

694
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 4: make our same calls and just sure everybody's on the

695
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 4: same page.

696
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: And then coach was saying today, because people are asking

697
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 2: him about first day in pads, this, that and the other,

698
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: what do you want? And he said this more than

699
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: once already in less than a full week of training camp.

700
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: He says, I want a nasty defense with an attitude.

701
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: Nobody's playing dirty out there, but hard hitting, intense defense

702
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: so the offense feels you. For sure, how do you

703
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: kind of put that into practice in a training camp

704
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: setting where you can't be all the way you know,

705
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: you can't have the dial turned all the way up,

706
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 2: But how do you utilize practice here to have that

707
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 2: when you get to game day? Like, how do you

708
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 2: ramp up to that in the practice set?

709
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 5: For sure?

710
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 4: Kinna earlier, like I was saying, like a controlled aggression.

711
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 4: Like there's times when, for example, I'm taking on a block,

712
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 4: I can go as physical as possible, but if the

713
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 4: running back doesn't see you, don't hit him as.

714
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: Hard as show.

715
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 4: Or if you guys both see each other, you can

716
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 4: have a collision. But obviously trying to keep everybody healthy

717
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 4: and everything, so that's different. But taking on blocks, so

718
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 4: really just inside the box, i'd say, is where you

719
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 4: can be mostly physicalt.

720
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: We had troll Bernard on earlier in camp and I

721
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: asked him this, I'll ask you, what's different about Bobby

722
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: Babbage this year.

723
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 4: Well, i'd say I don't. I don't make as many

724
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 4: as much mistakes as I was last year.

725
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 2: So oship that is loud in your ear.

726
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, but.

727
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 4: I think I'm sure he's feeling more comfortable. I mean,

728
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 4: I can't speak for him, but his second year, I'm

729
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 4: obviously I'm I imagine he's feeling more comfortable out there

730
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 4: calling the plays and everything.

731
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 2: So say that. I remember when we were talking to

732
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: you last year, and we in the spring last spring,

733
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: so spring twenty four, when we were asking you how

734
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: different is this defense compared to what you did in college?

735
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 2: And you said it's completely yes, So that transition not

736
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 2: to mention the fact that, if I remember right, you

737
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: played close to the line of scrimmage a lot in

738
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 2: college too, a lot of man coverage calls. Is that right? Okay,

739
00:37:58,480 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: So I just want to make sure my memory is good.

740
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 2: So what have you taken from this first year in

741
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: this system to give you the comfort level? Is it

742
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 2: just seeing it from that angle time and time and

743
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: time again, because you're further away from the line of

744
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 2: scrimmage now than maybe you've ever been before on a

745
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: regular basis, Right.

746
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd say some more Like my first two years

747
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 4: of college, I was pretty much strictly strong safety. In

748
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 4: my last year we kind of just played left and right,

749
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 4: so it was kind of fifty changeable.

750
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: I'd really just.

751
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 4: Say with the reps, I mean it's I mean, it's

752
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 4: easy to be in the classroom and if they're asking

753
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 4: questions to answer them quick and everything like that. But

754
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 4: then once it's going full speed, and I mean even

755
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 4: in a walk there, it's just a different scene in

756
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 4: person on the field, right, So just being able to

757
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 4: accumulate more and more reps, I just feel a lot

758
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 4: more comfortable.

759
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 2: Just like with angles of entry and all of that stuff.

760
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's been the message so far from the defensive staff.

761
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: You guys go back, you go, and you're evaluating every practice.

762
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: I mean, every rep gets scrutinized. Ye, how's that been

763
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: going in the meetings? What are the coaches saying about

764
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: how this defense is coming together with all the new faces,

765
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: moving parts, the young guys, so many young guys who

766
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 1: are looking to be contribut.

767
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, i'd say, I mean, obviously we still have a

768
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 4: lot to work on, but I think we've been looking good.

769
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 4: Coaches Like I mean, you know how it is. Coaches

770
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 4: are always going to keep trying to correct you. Even

771
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 4: if we had a great day, they're still going to

772
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 4: find things to make it even better. But you know,

773
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 4: mcdermot's can preach on the nasty aspect of it, So

774
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 4: really just trying to be physical and just take the

775
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 4: ball away.

776
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 5: Those are our two main focuses.

777
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: I would say last one for me, Cole Last year,

778
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 2: I don't have to tell you, getting off the field

779
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: on third down was the problem. Your takeaway ability as

780
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 2: a team kind of bailed you out a lot through

781
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 2: the course of the year. But I know you guys

782
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 2: want to make that number better just based on what

783
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: you reviewed from last season. Was it more a byproduct

784
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: of what did not happen on first and second down

785
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 2: that made third down so tough? What were your assessments

786
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 2: of what kind of handicapped you guys in getting off

787
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: the field on third down last year, so you can

788
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 2: make it better this year?

789
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, obviously the coaches will be better off

790
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 4: answering that than me. I'm obviously more focused on the

791
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 4: back into things. But I think a big part of

792
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 4: it is just rushing coverage working together. I mean, I'm

793
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 4: sure Bobby has said that to you guys. Yeah, So

794
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 4: if the rush is getting there, but we aren't covering

795
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 4: enough on the back and then they can't get a sack,

796
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 4: and then if we're covering long enough and then they're

797
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 4: not getting there, then you can't cover forever. So just

798
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 4: making sure we're working together and just both having marrying

799
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 4: that together.

800
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, gotcha, colet's good talking to you, man, stand one piece.

801
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: Would you want to be one of the few who do?

802
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: I mean it's been a long list. Yeah, that's knock

803
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: on wood.

804
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 2: Appreciate the time as always, you guys are having me

805
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: all right, Stay healthy, all right? Good luck this season.

806
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 2: That's Cole Bishop joining us here on One Bill's Live.

807
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: We'll take a break and be back with more of

808
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:51,160
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826
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00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:08,200
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834
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835
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839
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840
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,880
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841
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,760
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842
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843
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,000
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844
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,439
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845
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,359
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00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,880
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847
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848
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850
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851
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,120
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853
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Speaker 2: for this. Like sometimes and she's a great cook, but

854
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 2: sometimes we don't have the time to put something together.

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00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,279
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856
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,919
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857
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,640
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Speaker 2: something she did not make but had to get somewhere,

859
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: like Wegmans someone you know at the party last you,

860
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Speaker 2: oh did you make that? And she looks them dead

861
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 2: in the eye and she says, I made it happen.

862
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: That's right, that's what you do.

863
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: Someday maybe in the maybe before week one, we'll do

864
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: this as a topic. We'll talk about the tailgates. How

865
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: often you do it?

866
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 2: Some some we know it, so we do take Friday.

867
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, every single week they are out there in force

868
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: doing it. It's a tradition and something bat will happen

869
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: if they don't show up with the right sauce, you know,

870
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: with the sauce, right, somebody forgets that, you know. But

871
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: then others are like, listen, we got we got company

872
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: on this game. We got to coming on this. We

873
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: got to have big Gug go big on this game.

874
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: We got to go big on that game. And then

875
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: the rest of the time they're just like, hey, we

876
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: gotta gotta get there on time for kickoff kind of thing,

877
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: or at least low key the tailgate, because man, oh man,

878
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: you see somebody there. They're extravaganzas man oppress awesome.

879
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 2: Uh, we got a couple of minutes here before the break,

880
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 2: so we're gonna take a phone call. We go to

881
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 2: Butcher on the east side. What do you got for

882
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: his Butcher? We got a couple of minutes before the

883
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 2: break here.

884
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 6: I already know you on the rush, but let me

885
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 6: real quick. I love you, both of you.

886
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 7: I love WG, I love m Gent to the fans

887
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 7: of listening to watch, I definitely love you. Let me

888
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 7: get right to this point. I gotta say this to you, Brownie.

889
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 7: I knew you had it in you, but I didn't

890
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 7: know you was gonna bring it out. Now, you tell

891
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 7: me what happened to pass. Leave it with the ladder

892
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 7: against the wall. Brope, you have a little Christness in me.

893
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 7: I see you got little.

894
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 6: That's okay. It's okay because you know what I know.

895
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 6: And like Steven though, when it's time to take you

896
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 6: your family by any means necessary, when you got it

897
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 6: in you, brother, you just showed it with the ladder.

898
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: I had to get to the ac in the room.

899
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 6: Man, come on, hey, But the funny part was, dude,

900
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 6: Steve Steve laugh with me with this. He said he

901
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 6: was worried about the rubber bullets, that even the BA

902
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 6: That was the funny fight the way. But listen, I

903
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 6: will thanks to that comedy. I appreciate it right too,

904
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 6: because I mean, you got to hang up. I just

905
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 6: want to say this man, and I want everybody to listen, understand.

906
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 6: And Steve, Steve is my witness because like his son Luke,

907
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 6: when Steve was younger, and Luke say, Steve was going

908
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 6: through this process these kids out here now doing and

909
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 6: prior to us going to four Super Bowls, we were

910
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 6: knocking on the door. Prior to that. Our football team

911
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 6: has been knocking on the door prior to that. And

912
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 6: what Brandon Bean and and and and Sean McDermot and

913
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 6: the team is doing just like you guys said about

914
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 6: an attack defense. That's what we had in Buffalo, along

915
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 6: with Kelly and all Steve and all those guys. And

916
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say this and I'm gonna hang up, and

917
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 6: thanks for taking my call. Don't be surprised. I know

918
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 6: we got to get to one, but don't be surprized.

919
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 6: Called deja vu if we go to one and we

920
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 6: go to four straight and Josh becomes the goat over

921
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 6: Pats Mahomes prior to what's going on, I know it's

922
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 6: ahead of time. They said the same thing about Steve

923
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 6: and those guys. But Steve and those guys was knocking

924
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 6: on the door prior to going to four straight. I

925
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 6: love you guys, and I'm listening to the show. Kiss family,

926
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 6: love the guys.

927
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 2: Thanks.

928
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: That's well, that's big.

929
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: That's optimism with a capital. All I'm gonna say is,

930
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 2: what is it? The Chiefs are the only team to

931
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 2: go to four of the last five. I mean they're

932
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 2: the only team that's well, Patriots went to what was

933
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 2: it three out of four at one point in time.

934
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 2: I want to say something like that, but four in

935
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 2: a row, that's a big ask. That's why these people

936
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: still talk about.

937
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: Your particularly since they you know, they knocked on the door.

938
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: You're right, this defense, I'll say this about you. You know,

939
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: the Bills want an attacking defense. The better this defense plays,

940
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: and I said this last week. This this team will

941
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: go as far as this defense takes it. The offense,

942
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 1: and i'm the offense.

943
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 2: Takes good enough is past good championship colt.

944
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: It's championship caliber, super Bowl winning caliber. It's they're going

945
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: to score points and they're going to figure out a

946
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 1: way to get it done. It's the whole thing. This

947
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: team will go as far as their defense takes them

948
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: this year. The defense did one thing extremely well last

949
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: year and that that's about it. Everything else was questionable,

950
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: but taking the ball. But they took the ball away

951
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: and man oh man, that is a big difference maker.

952
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: That that got them to the champion It's the only

953
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 1: reason they beat the Ravens. The Ravens were good, really good,

954
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: and they turned it over three times and dropped a

955
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: couple passes, and that was it. Ravens are going to

956
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: sit there and kick. You can hear the rhetorics. They

957
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: blamed them so and rightfully so in my opinion, they

958
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: blame themselves for dropping that game to Buffalo in the

959
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: Divisional round. They did not play their best football. Now

960
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: you can accuse Lamar of like it's becoming a little

961
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: bit of a trend over the postseason in the postseason,

962
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: but nevertheless, they were a very good football team last

963
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: year that that really did it to themselves as much

964
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: as getting it done to them by Buffalo. But this

965
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: team in Buffalo this year will go wherever this defense

966
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: takes them. The better they are. This team is going

967
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: to get better exponentially because it's already hard to beat them.

968
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: And if the if the defense jumps on board and

969
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: gets one or two extra stops on the season, or

970
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: like Brownie said, just cuts off a field goal of

971
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: their points allowed, this is going to be a super

972
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 1: Bowl caliber team, no question about it. Obviously, the health

973
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: and everything, all the other stuff he can't control us

974
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: in there too, And there's a lot of a lot

975
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: of ingredients.

976
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: And raven has got a pretty good crew too, though.

977
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: There's a there's more than just the Ravens. It's the Chiefs.

978
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: It's the Ravens. Uh, Cincinnati, you can throw in yeah,

979
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: I'll say I'll throw in. I'll throw in Denver and

980
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: La LA's there's a step below though, LA's little step below.

981
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: But I think l has our trending.

982
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: Okay, all of the I'm they always trend at the

983
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 2: beginning of the year. Where are they at the end

984
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 2: of the day.

985
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: Well, there you go, but still usually charging the Chiefs,

986
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: the Bills, and the Chiefs and the Ravens. They're all

987
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: going to be right there again. It's going to be

988
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: who wins their last game to get to the Super Bowl.

989
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 2: Break time for us here our number two will take

990
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 2: some of your phone calls. We also have post practice

991
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 2: podium sound from the likes of Taron Johnson and Greg Russo,

992
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 2: and we will also have Bill's Minority owner Josie Altador

993
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 2: a little bit later on here in our number two

994
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: on set with us. So stay tuned for all of

995
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: that and more on One Bill's Live presented by a

996
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 2: Lot of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

997
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:24,919
Speaker 6: This is One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

998
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 2: All right here for our number two. Our coverage of

999
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 2: training camp continues on day five. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

1000
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: coming to you Alive from Saint John Fisher in Pittsford,

1001
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 2: New York, where it is a toasty day. But thankfully

1002
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 2: there is a breeze blowing through here and now it

1003
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 2: is saving our skin.

1004
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: It was so hot today. I forgot to wave when

1005
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 1: we came on the air, right oh, at.

1006
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 2: The beginning of the show your trademark wave, I forgot. Yeah.

1007
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 2: So it was hard for Steve to lift his arm

1008
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 2: to accommodate our listeners and viewers.

1009
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: Generally speaking, though, I love my job, love the people

1010
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: I work with.

1011
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 2: Not today, yeah uh yeah, welcome back on a Monday.

1012
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: Monday and training camp a day we've been days we've

1013
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: been waiting for for months. That's right, this season gets started.

1014
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: Now I'm complaining. Man, I'm the worst.

1015
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 2: There is an interesting development on the wide receiver market,

1016
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 2: as we know Terry McLaurin Steve before we get to

1017
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 2: some phone calls at eight oh three oh five fifty

1018
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 2: one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty Uh. Terry

1019
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 2: McLaurin is holding in right now. He's on the pup

1020
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 2: list with an ankle injury, but he reported to camp

1021
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 2: over the weekend to avoid getting fine.

1022
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: You didn't get you didn't finger quote that ankle injury Yeah.

1023
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 2: Uh so it's a hold in of sorts, I suppose.

1024
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 2: But the word is he is seeking more money per

1025
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: year on an average annual basis than DK Metcalf, who

1026
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 2: got thirty three million per year from the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1027
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: I do not see any way that the Washington Commanders

1028
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 2: give Terry McLaurin thirty three million dollars a year on

1029
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 2: an extension on average. Do you know, I'll say this

1030
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 2: so much so that Vegas has already placed odds on

1031
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 2: where he's headed via trade.

1032
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, five straight thousand yard seasons, five out of his

1033
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: six years in the league. Yep, twenty nineteen.

1034
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 2: He was very productive.

1035
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: He did not he did not get a thousand yards

1036
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: his rookie season got nine hundred and nineteen.

1037
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 2: And let us let us not forget high of eighty seven,

1038
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 2: the hot garbage at quarterback. That's correct that the Commanders

1039
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 2: were up until last year with the arrival of Jayden Daniels, he's.

1040
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: Been highly productive. And I'll say this too, Brown, and

1041
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: not for nothing. He's always available. Guys always shows up

1042
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: seven and he in the last four years he's played

1043
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: all seventeen games the Commanders have played.

1044
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 2: He has been a model citizen as well. The Commanders.

1045
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 2: Fans love that guy. If you pay. If you ask

1046
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 2: them to assemble a list of favorite players on the

1047
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 2: current Redskins squad, I would imagine he would be in

1048
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 2: one hundred percent of the fans top three one hundred percent.

1049
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,439
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean he deserves thirty three million a year.

1050
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: Though, thirty three million a year a lot of us

1051
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: is an enormous ask, and that is that's never going

1052
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: to happen. It's never gonna happen.

1053
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 2: Well, especially for a guy who's almost thirty years old.

1054
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: He's twenty nine. Yeah, now, yeah, you just can't do it.

1055
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean he's finishing, he's getting to

1056
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: the end of his second contract, right, so he's or

1057
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 1: he's right in the middle of it. Yeah, and he's

1058
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 1: been to the Pro Bowl twice. You know, he's he's

1059
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: a guy, no question about it. He's a good quality

1060
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 1: NFL player. There's no way you can tell me that

1061
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin couldn't go to any one of thirty two

1062
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: teams and not make that squad if not start. Yeah,

1063
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just he's he's a true, really good

1064
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: NFL player. But he is not setting the market on

1065
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 1: salary negotiations in any way, shape or form.

1066
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 2: He's just not that. That's why I was like almost

1067
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 2: not believing it. How could a thirty year old expect

1068
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 2: to command that kind of money top of the market money.

1069
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 2: That money is usually reserved for twenty five and twenty

1070
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 2: six year olds. Yeah, we have runway in front of them.

1071
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,439
Speaker 1: He's probably been around long enough to know you ask

1072
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 1: for it and hope you get you know what, halfway there, right.

1073
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 2: At least two thirds of the way there.

1074
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, something, you start there and then they come back

1075
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: and say no, we're going to start here, and you

1076
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: low ball. And that's when it As a guy who

1077
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: went through this not for thirty three million a year,

1078
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: but I imagine as a guy that went through this

1079
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 1: million a year, every single offer the club makes to

1080
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: you that you're not going to take, you take. It's

1081
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: hard not to take it personally. It's just it's hard

1082
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: not to take it personally. I think there's these guys

1083
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: in this Danish are a little better at that because

1084
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: mclaurin's not thirty three million a year. He can read

1085
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 1: social media as well as you and me. People are

1086
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: telling him what's up so he knows. Terry, are you crazy,

1087
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: right right? I mean you're think, Harry, what we got

1088
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: to think. We'll come up with a meme, the whole

1089
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: new scary Terry. We got to come up with Terry's

1090
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: gone out of his mind internet meme that that is

1091
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: perfect for a player who's asking for way too much

1092
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: that he's worth. I don't know what it would be,

1093
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: but that's it.

1094
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 2: Vision after shape.

1095
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: So I think you gotta be ready to get insulted

1096
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: on their counteroffer because it ain't gonna be thirty three

1097
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: million if there even is one, right, I mean, he

1098
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: may they may just say.

1099
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 3: So.

1100
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 2: The point of this is the odds are already out

1101
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 2: on where he's going to be traded just if he

1102
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 2: doesn't Budge Buffalo. Buffalo. Buffalo is at the bottom of

1103
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 2: the list at twenty five to one odds. The favorite

1104
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,720
Speaker 2: in the clubhouse right now are the Jets at plus

1105
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 2: three hundred, So well, do with that what you will.

1106
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:03,399
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1107
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 2: The other the other favorites the Patriots at plus four hundred,

1108
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 2: the Chargers at plus five hundred, who just lost Mike Williams. Yeah,

1109
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 2: that could be a destination.

1110
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, here's what happens that, but they're not

1111
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 1: paying thirty general manager is gonna make like four or

1112
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 1: five phone calls to other general managers and he's gonna, hey,

1113
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:24,720
Speaker 1: what are you doing nothing, brownie?

1114
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 2: What's going on?

1115
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: You'll say nothing, and I'll say, here's what I want.

1116
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 1: I want you to start a conversation with me about

1117
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: your interest in trading for Terry McLaurin. So I didn't

1118
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,919
Speaker 1: bring it up, but you did. Okay, wait, what would

1119
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: you think take for Terry McLaurin. Gosh, I'd never really

1120
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: thought about it. Let me think about it. And then

1121
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: they'll come out and say, well, we're getting a lot

1122
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: of inquiries about him because everybody knows he's unhappy. So

1123
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: we're trading him for a cup of coffee in future considerations.

1124
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 2: A cup of coffee. I don't know if you're doing that. Well,

1125
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 2: if you can, if you can, if you p us

1126
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 2: a fourth round pick, if you.

1127
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: Can get four or five teams to do it, you

1128
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: take the best offer and say thanks. Yeah, I mean

1129
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: that's what that's way he's got to be. You know,

1130
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: I want you to start a conversation with me about

1131
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 1: a guy I want a trade but you don't.

1132
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 2: But you don't know that you want that.

1133
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: You don't know what you want yet, and nobody knows that.

1134
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm just initiating this conversation. I want us to keep

1135
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: it that way. Yeah, So that's yeah. Thanks.

1136
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 2: So basically the favorite to land him in terms of

1137
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 2: odds Jets at plus three hundred, Patriots at plus four hundred,

1138
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 2: Chargers at plus five hundred, Raiders at plus six hundred,

1139
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 2: and it goes up from there. He's a nice player,

1140
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 2: he's a model citizen. You know what you're gonna get

1141
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 2: from him. But he's thirty. His age is the biggest

1142
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 2: thing working against him right now. Yeah, because his touchdown

1143
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 2: production with Jaden Daniels went off the charts. The most

1144
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 2: touchdowns he ever had in the season was seven. That

1145
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 2: was in his rookie year. He turns last year he

1146
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 2: has thirteen. He turns thirty during this season. He's six feet,

1147
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 2: two hundred and ten pounds and he is he's holding in.

1148
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 2: So it's acrimonious already. He's not happy, he's not gonna play,

1149
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 2: you're not gonna ge. So it has and this is unique,

1150
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe not unique, but it's it's becoming

1151
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 2: more prevalent in football, where if you've got an unhappy camper,

1152
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 2: you don't want him around your players who are happy.

1153
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 2: You don't want him making somebody else happy. Then you've

1154
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 2: got problems.

1155
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 5: And so if.

1156
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: Washington, if they're that far apart and Washington wants to

1157
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: I'd move on it, like right now.

1158
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 2: Well, I think if you get off of the right thing,

1159
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 2: they will.

1160
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1161
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean it's guys like you're number two

1162
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 2: wide out. I mean, I know it's a tough one.

1163
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, we'll see where it goes. I personally think

1164
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 2: he's going to settle for less money. I think he'll

1165
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 2: take you think somewhere.

1166
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: I think this as part of his plan.

1167
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 2: I think if they come in around eighteen to twenty,

1168
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 2: you know, on a two year deal or something, you know,

1169
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 2: something like two years forty million, two years thirty eight million.

1170
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 2: Heck even two years you know, thirty six million, I

1171
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 2: think we might do it.

1172
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: Maybe, but you can't have the guy on your You

1173
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: just can't. You just can't.

1174
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 2: Well, if it gets yeah, well we don't know how

1175
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 2: acrimonious it is. All we know is that he's holding

1176
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 2: In the interviews, he's been pretty cordial. So we'll have

1177
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,919
Speaker 2: to see what that means. You know what I mean. Yeah,

1178
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 2: we've got a pivot now because joining us here on

1179
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 2: set is going to be former US men's national team

1180
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 2: soccer player and current Bill's minority owner, part of a

1181
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 2: consortium of minority owners that purchased a stake in the

1182
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 2: Bills just last year. It's Josie Altador joining us here

1183
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 2: on set now. All right, Josie, welcome to training camp.

1184
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:48,919
Speaker 2: How does it feel to be back on a field again.

1185
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: Oh?

1186
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 2: No, your toes between the grass, so to speak.

1187
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 5: It feels amazing.

1188
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 8: I mean you feel the energy, the optimism flowing through here,

1189
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 8: like it's impossible not to want to get out there

1190
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 8: a little bit and run around.

1191
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 5: No, it's great to be out here.

1192
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 8: It's so good seeing the guys getting prepared and you know,

1193
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 8: the entire group is out here, you know, setting the

1194
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 8: right mindset for.

1195
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:08,919
Speaker 5: For what we hope is another great season.

1196
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1197
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: What's the most surprising part about being out here?

1198
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 5: I would say.

1199
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 8: There's so many cool things, right, A little bit different

1200
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 8: for me coming from you know, soccer background, I would

1201
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 8: say just seeing how you know, tough the guys are

1202
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 8: playing against each other without actually hitting, you know, I

1203
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 8: think there it shows the professionalism. They're still competing at

1204
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 8: a high level, you know, still competing for spots, and

1205
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 8: even though they're not hitting each other, they're still you know,

1206
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 8: going out there and giving the best.

1207
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 2: So a little more hitting today with the pads. But yeah,

1208
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 2: you're right, the thud, the thud rules and everything exactly.

1209
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 2: You're one hundred percent right. Would you say, because I

1210
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 2: think we know that American football is a lot different

1211
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 2: than the international game that you played, how would you

1212
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 2: how would you say the athletes you see here differ

1213
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 2: in the way practice roles then maybe some of the

1214
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 2: sessions that you would have either with the US men's

1215
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 2: national team or even when you were playing club at

1216
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 2: Toronto FC.

1217
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think the bouts during sessions are a bit shorter, right,

1218
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 8: we were talking about a little bit about that earlier.

1219
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 8: Like you know, here in football, you see a lot

1220
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 8: of you know, five ten second bouts maximum intensity, but

1221
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 8: you know, with a bit of a break. So I

1222
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 8: think that's one of the bigger differences I see where

1223
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 8: a soccer you kind of go a little bit long term,

1224
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 8: five ten, fifteen, sometimes even twenty minutes more dura before

1225
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 8: you get a break. So yeah, right away you see

1226
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 8: those differentiators.

1227
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1228
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: One of the things about this time of years, the

1229
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 1: roster is huge. There's ninety guys. Yeah, and when in

1230
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: your preseason, when you're getting in, when they're trying to

1231
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: hone it down, do you experience stuff like that?

1232
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1233
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, So you have the draft, the draft picks come

1234
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 8: out right, they're all part of the team until you

1235
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 8: start making some cuts. So it's pretty similar. A little

1236
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 8: bit different in terms of, like I said before, the

1237
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 8: size of the players and stuff like that. These guys

1238
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 8: are some monsters out there, but yeah, it's about it's.

1239
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: About all built like goalies, right, Yeah, you.

1240
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 8: Gotta have that mentality, Like the mentality of a goalie

1241
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 8: is kind of a little bit different, right, a little

1242
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 8: bit more brave.

1243
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 5: And so yeah, it's a good analogy.

1244
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 2: How long have the Bills kind of been on your radar, Josie,

1245
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 2: Because obviously, when you're a professional yourself, you're immersed in

1246
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 2: that world twenty four to seven, because that's what it

1247
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 2: takes to be a professional at your level. But you're

1248
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 2: just across the border, you're playing at Toronto FC. I'm

1249
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 2: just curious, like what was your level of exposure even

1250
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 2: while you were still playing to the bills, and when

1251
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 2: did they get like squarely on your radar.

1252
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 8: So let me tell you, if I'm being one hundred

1253
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 8: percent honest right now, Toronto, oh god, almost, you're right.

1254
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 2: You're right, yeah, Charity, yeah a liability for him.

1255
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 5: No, If I'm being honest with you, Toronto is Buffalo

1256
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 5: is the team of Toronto.

1257
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 2: Okay.

1258
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 8: You know the team is so heavily supported out there,

1259
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 8: like the amount of weekends and times I saw guys

1260
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 8: taking buses out there, going to jump on tables and

1261
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,439
Speaker 8: be a part of all the action, like you can't

1262
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 8: miss it. It's incredibly popular in Toronto. And so I

1263
01:02:57,960 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 8: knew of the team from day one as soon as

1264
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 8: I landed, and I got to support the team and

1265
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 8: kind of see a different aspect of the fan base

1266
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 8: that that is in Toronto, which is it's it's really

1267
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 8: rambutious and really positive.

1268
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 1: Have you attended a bunch of games at all of it?

1269
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 5: I hadn't.

1270
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 8: I hadn't been like like like he said, now though

1271
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 8: I was locked in, you know, on my sport, I

1272
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 8: watched all the time every Sunday on TV, but I

1273
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 8: never I had never made the trip to come.

1274
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 5: I have now, and I absolutely love it.

1275
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 8: I mean, it's the similarities you get in terms of

1276
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 8: the fandom, right that you see at a Bills game,

1277
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 8: especially that you have in soccer is it's like it's

1278
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 8: it's really similar. So it's kind of cool to see that.

1279
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 8: And then you know, just to be able to be

1280
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 8: a part of some of these games, man, it's been

1281
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 8: it's been.

1282
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 5: A lot of fun.

1283
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 2: So now you are like a full scale businessman though,

1284
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,919
Speaker 2: and you're on and you're on this side of the fence.

1285
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 2: You're not on the outside looking in. You're on the

1286
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 2: inside kind of observing things from a business perspective and

1287
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 2: a business acumen. How has that kind of altered? You know,

1288
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 2: because you got to almost do a one to eighty

1289
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Speaker 2: in your head going from the player way of things

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Speaker 2: to the business side of things. How have you kind

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01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 2: of shifted your mind to this line of work now

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Speaker 2: from this perspective.

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Speaker 8: Let me say, man, I gotta I gotta tip my

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01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 8: hat to all my former gms and presidents no, because

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Speaker 8: it's such a good point you're making, right, It's one

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Speaker 8: way to kind of be a player and be locked

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Speaker 8: in on the day to day how you're going to

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Speaker 8: push your organization forward, win championships, and it's a whole

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Speaker 8: other beast, right being on the admin side and worried

1300
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 8: about you know, revenues and all these type of things

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01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 8: that go into running a business, right profitable business. So

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Speaker 8: it's definitely been an experience, and I definitely have a

1303
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 8: lot of sympathy for those guys, people that I drove crazy.

1304
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 8: Maybe as a player, you know, I understand the challenges

1305
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 8: now that they faced and how dynamic you have to

1306
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 8: be to build a good organization.

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Speaker 1: So you have more sympathy for the gms and owners.

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01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, yes.

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01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 1: Conversely, and I found myself with this, you have a

1310
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 1: little bit less tolerance for guys because you've been there,

1311
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 1: and it's like, come on, you get you know, less

1312
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 1: tolerance and less sympathy for the players because you know

1313
01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 1: you're now you're on the other side of the table.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't say less talents for the players.

1315
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 8: I mean, I think the one thing in all sports,

1316
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 8: you know, the players are incredibly important to the business

1317
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 8: and making sure that you know, you build a community

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Speaker 8: around them. I think that what I will say about

1319
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 8: the players is you want to make sure that you

1320
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Speaker 8: have an environment that is team first, right, That's that's

1321
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Speaker 8: one thing that I that I see even more now.

1322
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 8: You know, you don't want to have an environments where

1323
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 8: people bring circuses and things that take away from trying

1324
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 8: to win championships. I think that's that's paramount to building

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Speaker 8: a strong team.

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Speaker 2: So have you kind of sat down collaborated because you're

1327
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 2: not the only former pro athlete here on the equity

1328
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 2: side of things for the Bills is Tracy McGrady Vince Carter,

1329
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 2: who both spent some time in Toronto as well as

1330
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 2: professional athletes. Have you guys kind of sat down and

1331
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 2: talked some turkey a little bit.

1332
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 8: Or every every time we're together, we're talking. We're talking

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01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 8: about it. We're talking about you know, whether it be

1334
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 8: the tactics. I mean, those are two huge football guys,

1335
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 8: by the way, huge fans of the game. Tracy, I

1336
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 8: don't know if you ever see him throw a ball,

1337
01:05:58,120 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 8: He's got as good as a spower about it. So

1338
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 8: so you know, we're always talking shop when we're together,

1339
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 8: and it's something we're passionate about. You know, as former pros,

1340
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 8: you know that that itch doesn't go away. So to

1341
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 8: be able to share that together, it's been been a

1342
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 8: lot of fun.

1343
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Speaker 1: You've mentioned in passing just a minute ago about the

1344
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 1: about you know, the environment, and one of the things

1345
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: that has set Buffalo apart under Sean McDermott has been

1346
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 1: this culture. We hear about this where guys can come

1347
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 1: We've seen it firsthand, where players come in who are

1348
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 1: gifted but have found a place where they thrive and

1349
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: have far exceeded their expectations. How has that been presented

1350
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: to you and and you guys see it and you know,

1351
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: how's give us a little.

1352
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 2: Suce come here and they get to be the best

1353
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 2: version of the sell.

1354
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 1: How has that been presented to you? Have you seen

1355
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 1: evidence of that?

1356
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 2: I have?

1357
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 8: And I think what's really important for players, especially young

1358
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 8: Some of these guys are young players, right. We forget

1359
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 8: that that these are young men still growing and learning, right.

1360
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 8: And I think when you come into an environment, environment

1361
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 8: like this that I think allows people to be who

1362
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 8: they naturally are.

1363
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 3: Right.

1364
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 8: Sometimes you go to some of these other markets, sometimes

1365
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 8: bigger markets, and you're a Shelley yourself. The bright the

1366
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 8: lights are too bright, so to speak. And I think

1367
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 8: here in Buffalo, the environment that's been created as every

1368
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 8: guy kind of sees where they can plug in and

1369
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 8: play and they're allowed to be themselves.

1370
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 5: And I think you see that now in training camp.

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01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,439
Speaker 5: You see that off the field. You know, cameras aren't

1372
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 5: rolling from the admin side.

1373
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 8: So I think that being kind of you know, the

1374
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 8: messaging and the theme throughout the organization has allowed players

1375
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 8: from all types to kind of come in here and

1376
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 8: find their footage.

1377
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 2: Okay, So last one for you. I got to ask

1378
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 2: you at least the US men's national team question. So

1379
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 2: ten months from now, yes, you know you're gonna have

1380
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 2: the World Cup roster set, maybe even sooner than that,

1381
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 2: probably nine months away. Who, if you had to handicap it,

1382
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 2: do you think is the starting number nine?

1383
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 1: Oh?

1384
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 2: I mean, who's who's lining up?

1385
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 5: I did not see who do you think?

1386
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 3: Is?

1387
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 2: Is it battle again? Is it Peppy? Is it like? Who?

1388
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 2: Do you who? Do you think has a really good

1389
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 2: look at that? I mean it could be sergeant, could

1390
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 2: be in like a dark horse guy.

1391
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, It's it's tough to tell.

1392
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 1: Man.

1393
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 8: You know, we're still quite a way out where a

1394
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 8: lot of things can happen from now until the summer, right,

1395
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 8: But one thing I can tell you is, you know,

1396
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,479
Speaker 8: it's it's gonna be like seven Super Bowls, hopefully seven

1397
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 8: or eight games we can play which will get us

1398
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 8: to the end of the tournament. And I just hope

1399
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 8: to see the support from the fans. I know it'll

1400
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 8: be there. You know, we're one of the most well

1401
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 8: supported teams throughout you know, World Cups. It's historic, our

1402
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 8: our fans show up, and I hope it's a celebration

1403
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 8: that we see.

1404
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 5: Here in the United States. You like the pool though

1405
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 5: that coach players.

1406
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 8: And I'll tell you this, I'm not a guy that's

1407
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 8: too worried right now, because I think when you get

1408
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 8: to a World Cup, if you got if you have

1409
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 8: guys that aren't up for an event like that, you know,

1410
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 8: seventy thousand screaming fans playing exactly so to me, you know,

1411
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 8: that's where I'll make my judgments. I think it's tough

1412
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 8: right now. You know, there's a lot of moving parts,

1413
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 8: a lot of fragmentation when you're leading up to a

1414
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 8: World Cup. But we'll be able to tell more those

1415
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 8: lead up games and how the players respond and are

1416
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 8: ready for a.

1417
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 1: Big moment, Like if you won't walk out of the

1418
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 1: tunnel and don't respond to.

1419
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 5: That right, you're in the wrong, wrong guy, the wrong,

1420
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 5: the wrong guy.

1421
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 8: Yeah, so yeah, I don't get too caught up in

1422
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 8: the build up right now because you know, some of

1423
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 8: these crowds aren't great. There's this nagging injury. So you know,

1424
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 8: we'll tell a lot when the summer rules around in

1425
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 8: those tune up gas.

1426
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 2: A lot of fun, sure, getting the World Cup back

1427
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 2: on us soil for sure, first time since ninety four,

1428
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 2: which I actually remember, which I'm kind of dating myself

1429
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 2: a little bit. I'm an old guy. Thanks for the time, Josie,

1430
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 2: pleasure to meet you. Thanks for giving us some time here.

1431
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 2: Enjoy the rest of training camp and we'll see you

1432
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 2: at the stadium I'm sure during the season, right, you've

1433
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 2: kidding me?

1434
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 3: Can't wait.

1435
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 2: Good to hear that's Josie Altador joining us here on

1436
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 2: one Bill's Live. We'll take a break, be back with more.

1437
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 2: Stay tuned, more training camp coverage coming away, all right

1438
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 2: back here on one Bill's Live at Training Camp, Saint

1439
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 2: John Fisher, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and day

1440
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 2: five is now in the books. Heavy run game effort

1441
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 2: today as the pads went on, so might as well

1442
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 2: get started when the pads are on, and one guy

1443
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 2: who made his presence fell particularly in the play action

1444
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 2: passing game. On defense, it was Greg Russo had a

1445
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 2: big batted pass in the backfield there almost got an

1446
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 2: interception out of it. He addressed the media after practice

1447
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 2: at the post practice podium, We're gonna go there now.

1448
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 9: Kind of the true maybe a truer test of what

1449
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:12,680
Speaker 9: line would get to do and get involved in and

1450
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 9: how how did it all feel.

1451
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 3: That's it's fun, you know what I'm saying. It's good

1452
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 3: to have the pads on.

1453
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 10: Having pads on makes it more realistic because that's how

1454
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 10: the game is on Sundays. So I mean, it's always

1455
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 10: good to get in the path, especially for us up front.

1456
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 9: And seant this morning about like what he was looking

1457
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 9: for what he pads on for the first time in

1458
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 9: campra here's the worst.

1459
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 5: I want to see a nastiness.

1460
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 3: I want to see physical type of play.

1461
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 11: It was like he was.

1462
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 9: Driving a message maybe publicly to what you guys might

1463
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 9: be hearing internally.

1464
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 10: Is that can you expect? Yeah, that's consistent with what

1465
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 10: we hear. And you know, like having that edge goes

1466
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 10: a long way in the league. You know what I'm

1467
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 10: saying you could. You could really discourage the team by

1468
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 10: the way you play, the way you run the ball,

1469
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 10: the way you stopped the run.

1470
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 3: It helps you win a weekend and week out.

1471
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 10: I mean, that's what we're trying to That's what we're

1472
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,560
Speaker 10: here for, trying to build that identity and that that

1473
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 10: that toughness and that nastiness like he said, and just

1474
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 10: that attitude of like whatever's in front of us is

1475
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 10: just in the way, because.

1476
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 3: I mean, I know we're really can't. But what does

1477
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 3: it feel like?

1478
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 2: You got new new people involved in your group?

1479
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 3: What's your sense of college? Yeah, yeah, definitely. I mean

1480
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 3: I can only speak for early D lines.

1481
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 10: That's why I practice with everybody's urgent, everybody's you know

1482
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 10: what I'm saying, trying their best. Everybody's playing, trying to

1483
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 10: play as physical as they can, and we know that's

1484
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 10: that's the standard.

1485
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 3: That's what uh, that's what's required of us. So that's

1486
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 3: what we gotta do. How do you guys got to

1487
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 3: help those young guys and throw up these.

1488
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 10: Along Uh, I mean just with our play, you know

1489
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:39,640
Speaker 10: what I'm saying. I know, like personally, I'm not the

1490
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 10: biggest like raw Rod guy. But it's like you go

1491
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:43,600
Speaker 10: out there, you do it right to the best of

1492
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 10: your ability, and you have the right attitude about it.

1493
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 10: You play with juice energy, everything that coach uh coach

1494
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 10: Babbage talks about, and I mean that's just our mindset,

1495
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 10: and young guys kind of just follow along with that

1496
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 10: as they as they see it happening right in front

1497
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 10: of him.

1498
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 2: Being able to see a life jog, being the spring

1499
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,639
Speaker 2: up whatever you these persons case we camp.

1500
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 10: I mean, he's a dog, he's everything I've seen of

1501
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 10: watching him, like when he was on the Chargers, you know.

1502
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:08,560
Speaker 10: So it's it's fun to be out there with with

1503
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 10: a guy like that. It's a blessing. Also just a

1504
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 10: really cool dude off the field. We have conversations about

1505
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 10: random stuff every day. It's consistent, you know what I'm saying.

1506
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 10: But he just comes to work, has a good attitude

1507
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 10: obviously his experience, you know. So, I mean we're real

1508
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 10: happy to have him.

1509
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 3: Career where you've.

1510
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 2: Got guys to howl that you see high within the

1511
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 2: guys they drafted a Yeah, how about that size? How

1512
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 2: does that help a defensive line health?

1513
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:37,679
Speaker 3: For sure?

1514
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,680
Speaker 10: You know, being able to uh stand firm at the

1515
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 10: point of attack and also get your hand, hands up,

1516
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 10: tips and passes. You can make a lot of plays

1517
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 10: like that. Caused a lot of turnovers. So I mean

1518
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 10: it's it's great. I think it will help us out.

1519
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 9: Do you A lot of what was said after the

1520
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 9: Super Bowl of how the Eagles refinded and this game

1521
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 9: has always been about when when those battles up front,

1522
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 9: but the Eagles f gave a firm reminder.

1523
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,679
Speaker 3: How how important that could be, and how that game

1524
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 3: went and how physical they work.

1525
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 9: How did any of that register with you as just

1526
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 9: as as a reminder example of what our front play

1527
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:14,839
Speaker 9: means in the being dominant.

1528
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 10: I mean everything that I believe in that whatever I

1529
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 10: think it all comes from Coach mcdermy and Coach Babbage,

1530
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 10: the D line coaches we got. So whatever they're telling

1531
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 10: us to do, whether it's this, that or the third

1532
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:28,640
Speaker 10: is kind of just where I get it from. I

1533
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 10: don't really look to any other team or any other

1534
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 10: example of anything, but I know there's the right way

1535
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 10: to do it, and we know we just got to

1536
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 10: do that, just keep on doing that more often and

1537
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 10: more often to get there where we want to go.

1538
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 3: And we just got to keep getting better.

1539
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 1: Last year, what is taking the next step into you?

1540
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 3: I feel like every year you got to take a step,

1541
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

1542
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 10: I feel like, no matter how good you do, is

1543
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 10: going to always be like, all right, take that next step,

1544
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 10: take that next step, like get better. There's always a

1545
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 10: lot of things to work work on because no player

1546
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 10: is perfect, you know what I mean. So I mean,

1547
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 10: for me, it's every part of my game. It's it's

1548
01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 10: the run game, it's it's pass rushing, it's me being

1549
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:04,600
Speaker 10: just locked into my assignments, my pad level, my hand placement, this,

1550
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:06,560
Speaker 10: that and the third is kind of everything, and just

1551
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 10: keep on getting better at everything. Life uh place hard.

1552
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 10: You know what I'm saying. He's a he's a young guy,

1553
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 10: like y'all said, but you know he's picking it up quick.

1554
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 10: All the young guys are really doing a good job,

1555
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 10: you know, Landing, uh Landon, Hayden, Dion t J. They're

1556
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 10: all doing a good job, you know what I'm saying.

1557
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 10: They're all very observant, you know what I'm saying, just

1558
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 10: kind of soaking things up, and they got the right

1559
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 10: mindset for sure, you guys.

1560
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 1: A guy like Jay KWin Jones the twelve year fat

1561
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 1: How have you seen his approach to helping those get guys?

1562
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 10: Uh, just leading by example, you know, like there's a

1563
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 10: right way to do things and there's a not so

1564
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 10: right way to do things.

1565
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 3: So him just showing them like this is how you

1566
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 3: do it.

1567
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 10: If he's going up first in a drill, him just

1568
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 10: being locked in and him doing his job and showing

1569
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 10: somebody else had to do their job as well. And

1570
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 10: I'm sure he shares little titbits on the side with them.

1571
01:14:57,880 --> 01:14:59,600
Speaker 10: You know, I'm not in all the conversations because they

1572
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 10: play these and I put I play d N so

1573
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,759
Speaker 10: more so I'm talking to like Landon and Javaon Solomon

1574
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 10: and those younger guys and stuff.

1575
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 2: And sending years.

1576
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 10: Juice energy, you know, uh, and really just the standard,

1577
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 10: the standard that we have to uphold every day.

1578
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 3: I know he pushes me personally, pushes all the guys.

1579
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1580
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:22,559
Speaker 10: We're never satisfied, whether it's a bad practice or good practice,

1581
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 10: like ups and downs. He's like he's always on us.

1582
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 10: He's always trying to get the most out of us.

1583
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 10: And it's all coming from a good place, all coming

1584
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 10: from uh, him wanting to see us reach our goals.

1585
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 10: Won the Super Bowl, this, that, and the third whatever

1586
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 10: it is. He's trying to get us to all the

1587
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 10: way up here, to the pinnacle of where we could

1588
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 10: be at. So I mean he pushes us super hard,

1589
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 10: you know what I'm saying. So, I mean we're we're

1590
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 10: blessed to have him and it only makes us better.

1591
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 2: So she's like that some of these ruokies who are

1592
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 2: trying to make a loss slide and the practice squad, and.

1593
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,639
Speaker 10: Yeah, I say, really, just I tell him it's locking

1594
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 10: on the details, you know, like, don't go h don't

1595
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 10: get too ahead of yourself, you know, focus on one

1596
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 10: rep at the time. If you're in meetings right now,

1597
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 10: make sure you got your pin out and your writing.

1598
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 10: If you're in the white room, make sure you're getting

1599
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 10: full extension on that press. And when you're at the field,

1600
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 10: make sure you're taking every single rep seriously. You're locked

1601
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 10: into to your asignment. You're locked into the possible adjustments

1602
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 10: based off formation. It's little things making sure that you're

1603
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 10: that you kind of cross all your t's and dot

1604
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 10: all your eyes and you're just taking it one step

1605
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 10: at the time, because if you get to head of

1606
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 10: yourself in this league is just it's very overwhelming thinking

1607
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 10: about roster customers, think about this that the third it's

1608
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 10: a lot for you. So really just kind of breaking

1609
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 10: it down to the smallest the smallest things to this.

1610
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 3: League is a very young rookie, limited experience de clat

1611
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 3: level for those gifent circumstances.

1612
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 9: Do you feel like you've you've grown the growth that

1613
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 9: you've experienced. Can you can you walk through like what

1614
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 9: that's been like And I'm sure it plays into your

1615
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:47,639
Speaker 9: advice things.

1616
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, I mean when it comes when it goes,

1617
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 10: when it comes to that, it's like my first year

1618
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 10: is a lot.

1619
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 3: You're like, you're you're drinking to have a fire hose,

1620
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

1621
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 10: But I mean I also had good guys around, like

1622
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 10: Ed who kind of helped me out and stuff in

1623
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 10: de Kwon my second year he came in and Vughn.

1624
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 3: But I mean they all kind.

1625
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 10: Of had the same message, like just take it one

1626
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 10: day at a time, you know what I'm saying, focus

1627
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 10: on picking something to get better at, if not everything,

1628
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 10: but focusing on this and kind of just being locked

1629
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 10: into the little details. And then year by year, the

1630
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 10: more reps you get under, the more sundays you play football,

1631
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 10: the more times you see this play, you see that formation,

1632
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 10: you see this past set, you see that run block,

1633
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 10: you see this hene block, whatever it is, You're gonna

1634
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 10: just keep on getting better, getting better at.

1635
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 3: It with practice.

1636
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 10: It's like it's like kind of like anything you do,

1637
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 10: Like the more you ride a bike or a scooter,

1638
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 10: the better you're the better you're at your better you

1639
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 10: get better at doing it from just doing it over

1640
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 10: and over again. He's really locked in, like he's locked

1641
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 10: into the details, like the smallest things, you know what

1642
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,560
Speaker 10: I'm saying. Like he's on us for sure, but I

1643
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 10: mean he's a he's a great coach. He also wants

1644
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 10: the best out of us and he expects a lot,

1645
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:52,720
Speaker 10: so he pushes us thing in the day out. But

1646
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 10: like his individual period, it's very detailed to the smallest

1647
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,640
Speaker 10: things like your hands shouldn't be like this, should be

1648
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 10: like this, So just little things like that, and that's

1649
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 10: only gonna make us better.

1650
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 3: Uh, coming this fall, he flips the hat around different

1651
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 3: different mode.

1652
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 10: Yeah, if you're talking, he's gonna be like chill out,

1653
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 10: you know what I'm saying. So, I mean he got

1654
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 10: me a couple of times yesterday. So uh yeah, but

1655
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 10: but he's he's a good dude. You know what I'm saying.

1656
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:20,680
Speaker 10: He's pushing us and he just wants the best out

1657
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 10: of us. So I mean, I got nothing but respect

1658
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 10: for him.

1659
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:24,639
Speaker 4: Bond.

1660
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 3: What are the challenges that come with that's been taking

1661
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 3: that leave into year two.

1662
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 2: But then also however, you seen him come in with

1663
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:31,879
Speaker 2: the right approach.

1664
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:34,600
Speaker 10: Strong, I mean, man like his attitude day in and

1665
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 10: day out. It's positive. He's always very to work, you

1666
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 10: know what I'm saying. He doesn't he's never moping around.

1667
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 10: So I mean a lot of times I'm feeding off

1668
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 10: off of a guy like Javon. And then the way

1669
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 10: the way he could rush away, he could be in

1670
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 10: the corner he he had, he had a couple of

1671
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 10: sacks last year off off limited reps. So he's only

1672
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 10: gonna get better, and uh, we're glad to have him.

1673
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 10: He's he's a great dude too, So that's great.

1674
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 2: Gruce. So addressing the media, yea here this afternoon at

1675
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 2: training camp, and you heard him asked about new senior

1676
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:08,639
Speaker 2: defensive assistant Ryan Nielson, who has taken a very hands

1677
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 2: on approach with the defensive line. As a matter of fact,

1678
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 2: the Bills now have three coaches who work with the

1679
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 2: defensive line. You have defensive line coach Marcus West, senior

1680
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 2: defensive assistant Ryan Nielson, who has kind of taken on what,

1681
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 2: at least on the field, appears to be a lead

1682
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 2: role in coaching that group. And that's a guy who's

1683
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 2: been a former coordinator in this league, comes from Jacksonville

1684
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 2: last year where he was the DC. And then you

1685
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 2: have Jason Rebrovich as the assistant defensive line coach who's

1686
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 2: back for his second stint as an assistant with the Bills.

1687
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 2: But that is a lot of coaching acumen for one

1688
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 2: of the biggest in terms of number position groups on

1689
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 2: the roster. And I think it's a recognition of the

1690
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 2: youth they have at that position and that there might

1691
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 2: need to be some individualized attention at times times to

1692
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 2: get those guys up to speed. Because to the point

1693
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 2: you made earlier Steve no Ogan, joby no Hoyd for

1694
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 2: six weeks, some of those young guys are gonna have

1695
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 2: to play and probably play a lot in the first

1696
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 2: month and a half.

1697
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 1: I think he says too, this is this is you

1698
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 1: always think about, Wow, they threw some draft picks at

1699
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 1: the D line with Ed Oliver at Panessa Rousseau, all

1700
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 1: these guys, Sanders, Sanders, Uh, Carter, I'm sorry Carter and Sanders, Yeah,

1701
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 1: t J. Sanders, and then they go out and get

1702
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 1: Ogan Joby they you know, all these guys they threw

1703
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 1: all and you think, Wow, they threw a bunch of

1704
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 1: assets at it. And they're throwing coaches at it too. Yeah,

1705
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 1: there's not just plas on deck. They're trying to get

1706
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 1: that group to the production level they want and they're

1707
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:49,679
Speaker 1: they're not pulling any punches getting it done. So it's

1708
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 1: it is site quietly, I think, because you know it's

1709
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 1: coaches and you know now the assistant code, there's nine

1710
01:20:57,439 --> 01:21:00,560
Speaker 1: thousand assistant coaches. They are doing everything they can to

1711
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 1: maximize that group this year, in the offseason, in the draft,

1712
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 1: and in this preseason as well as training camp. It's

1713
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to see if they can get

1714
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 1: higher level of production after, like I said, throwing all

1715
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 1: these assets at it.

1716
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also related to the defensive line, we heard coach

1717
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:23,560
Speaker 2: McDermott speak glowingly this morning and he doesn't do this

1718
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 2: often about Javon Solomon, your guy. He's getting second team

1719
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 2: reps at times, and I think that's saying something in

1720
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 2: light of all the talent that the Bills have accumulated

1721
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 2: at the defensive end position, not to mention the fact

1722
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 2: that in a position group where it's clear the Bills

1723
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 2: covet tall, long angular players, he is, you know, the

1724
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 2: one guy that doesn't fit the profile, and yet here

1725
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 2: he is making an impact. And coach McDermott was asked

1726
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 2: this morning, what did you think about Javon Solomon's offseason?

1727
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 2: And his answer was he did a lot of good

1728
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:10,800
Speaker 2: work and it's evident here on the practice field.

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01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 1: That's what's fun about covering this team under the Sean

1730
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 1: McDermott era. There is no gray area. When a guy's

1731
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 1: practicing well, he gets more reps. When he's practicing better

1732
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 1: than another guy, he goes ahead of that guy in

1733
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 1: the rotation. It doesn't matter if it's Christian Benford as

1734
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 1: a sixth rounder and Kyrie Elam is a first rounder.

1735
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:38,719
Speaker 1: You get what you earn, and that for us covering

1736
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:42,640
Speaker 1: the team, you just look and it's like wow, but

1737
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:46,720
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. You know, and I and you

1738
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 1: know we Brownie said, you know, John Solomon is my guy.

1739
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 1: I've seen the guy do some good things him as

1740
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:53,720
Speaker 1: a rookie last right, But there's also a ton of

1741
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 1: stuff we don't see. We don't see the meetings, we

1742
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 1: don't see the off season, we don't see the practice

1743
01:22:57,240 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 1: film sessions. You know, we don't watch every rep of practice.

1744
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 1: So this, you know, obviously there's a million reasons why

1745
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 1: a guy we like or we don't like, or we

1746
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 1: wouldn't know how good or bad the guy was. There's

1747
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 1: a million reasons for it. But the coaches have no excuse,

1748
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 1: and they tell us all by giving the guys reps.

1749
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 1: And Solomon is that's you, Brunnie.

1750
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 2: That says something. And I remember talking to Greg Russo

1751
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 2: when we had him on set here last year in

1752
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 2: training camp, and Solomon was a rookie, and I remember

1753
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 2: asking him who has caught your eye? And he said,

1754
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 2: Javon Solomon. And I said why. I said, what is

1755
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 2: it about his game that impresses you? And he said

1756
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:45,560
Speaker 2: his hands. He's got ten inch hands. He's got unusually

1757
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 2: long arms for a man his height, they're longer. And

1758
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 2: because of that, even though he is a shorter player

1759
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 2: than some of the other storks that we have on

1760
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 2: this roster at the defensive end position. Yeah, all those

1761
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 2: other guys are six five plucks, all those guys. Yeah,

1762
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 2: he is still able to be effective out there on

1763
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 2: the edge and hold the point. And he's a guy

1764
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 2: that is muscularly thick throughout his frame put together.

1765
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 1: And the interesting thing is you think about it, and

1766
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 1: it's hard because you can't do it without like actually

1767
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:22,760
Speaker 1: or I can't without actually having a guy that to

1768
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 1: illustrate where you stand up and watch a guy do it.

1769
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 1: But when a guy is short, offensive linemen tend to

1770
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 1: get on top of him and push him down to

1771
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:31,720
Speaker 1: the ground and kind of get on him. You know.

1772
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 1: There there's techniques for a tall lineman blocking a shorter guy.

1773
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 1: But the shorter guy has long arms. It's a problem.

1774
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 1: It's harder to get on top of him because you

1775
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:46,559
Speaker 1: can't get close to him. You know, he comes up

1776
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 1: in stiff arms you and you're still he's got a

1777
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:50,599
Speaker 1: monomeral stab those thirty three inch.

1778
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 11: Arm you know whatever, they are way out there and

1779
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 11: you can't get on top of him. So now you're

1780
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 11: trying to get on top of him and he's still

1781
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 11: not there. Yeah, but then he and he's got then

1782
01:24:58,560 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 11: all of a sudden runs the hoop. He's trying to

1783
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:01,559
Speaker 11: get on top of him, and all of a sudden

1784
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 11: he's not there. He's underneath you and he's around you.

1785
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 11: It's a problem. So he does have some gifts that

1786
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:08,560
Speaker 11: he uses to his advantage.

1787
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:10,679
Speaker 1: Plus the fact that I, like I told you last

1788
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 1: year when I was watching himself, he's got explosion. You know,

1789
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:15,640
Speaker 1: he's he's explosive.

1790
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, off the ball he is. I don't know if

1791
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:20,680
Speaker 2: he's got long run the hoop speed right right right,

1792
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 2: but he's he wins at the he has to win

1793
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 2: at the snap or with a counter move. He's not

1794
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 2: gonna just blow somebody's doors off and around the edge.

1795
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 2: That's why he was a fifth round pick. If he

1796
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:32,639
Speaker 2: was blowing the doors off of people around the hoop,

1797
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 2: he would have been a first or a second round pick,

1798
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 2: not a fifth round.

1799
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 1: There's certain basic elements that are absent in his game

1800
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 1: because of his size and because he can't he doesn't

1801
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 1: bull rush anybody, you know what I mean, He's not

1802
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 1: gonna get he I mean he may use it once

1803
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 1: in a while on a guy who seems susceptible if

1804
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 1: he gets back on his heels. But it's not part

1805
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:50,640
Speaker 1: of his go to package. So you don't have the

1806
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:54,600
Speaker 1: power move or the power rush, and but you do have,

1807
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 1: you know, some other stuff that you do really well.

1808
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 1: So that's you know, that's what ditch you to the

1809
01:25:59,120 --> 01:25:59,599
Speaker 1: sixth round.

1810
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 2: Like you said, gotta take a break here. One final segment, Togo,

1811
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 2: Steve and I wrap things up on day five of

1812
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,759
Speaker 2: training camp. Some final thoughts next year on One Bill's

1813
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 2: Live presented by Collida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1814
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 1: All right.

1815
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 2: One final segment here from day five of training camp

1816
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 2: at Saint John Fisher. Chris Brown, Steve tasking with you

1817
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 2: on a Monday, and uh, you know who the happy

1818
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 2: we told you earlier in the show, Steve. Terry McLaurin

1819
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 2: is looking for a new contract from the Commanders and

1820
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:41,560
Speaker 2: he is now the happiest man in the NFL. Do

1821
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 2: you want to know why? Because Cortland Sutton just signed

1822
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 2: a four year extension worth ninety two million dollars and

1823
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:52,639
Speaker 2: he also is twenty nine years of age and set

1824
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 2: to turn thirty this year, and he has fewer fewer

1825
01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 2: one thousand yard receiving seasons than Terry McLaurin. So twenty

1826
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 2: three million a year for Courtland Sutton's.

1827
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 1: Not thirty three, but twenty three.

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01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 3: He might.

1829
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 1: He's already making five. He's already making nineteen.

1830
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 2: McLaurin might get to twenty five.

1831
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 1: Lorn's already making nineteen.

1832
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 2: Give me a little give him a little bump.

1833
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 1: So if he gets to twenty five, he meant that deal, right,

1834
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 1: If you guarantee some of it, he should take it.

1835
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, because the parameters have been set for

1836
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 2: all intense purposes. With a player of similar age, similar ability,

1837
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 2: and your production is better than his, his agent should

1838
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:35,920
Speaker 2: be on the phone right now.

1839
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 1: Well, I'll say this too. Courtland Sutton did it with

1840
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:44,719
Speaker 1: creuddy quarterback play as well, right until this past season

1841
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:47,599
Speaker 1: with bow Nicks Nix got better. But yeah, so that's

1842
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 1: their Their.

1843
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 2: Career trajectories are rather similar. They both had crummy quarterback

1844
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 2: play until last year, and they both showed up and

1845
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:56,800
Speaker 2: showed out last year.

1846
01:27:57,920 --> 01:27:59,679
Speaker 1: Now they want to cash in. I get it. Okay,

1847
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:00,639
Speaker 1: we'll see.

1848
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 2: I'm probably the last big contract either of them will sign. Yeah,

1849
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 2: and we'll see if the Commanders step up to the plate.

1850
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:09,640
Speaker 1: You can see both, either of them or both of

1851
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 1: them signing, you know, the one year obligatory deal going

1852
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 1: someplace to finish out, you.

1853
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 2: Know, oh yeahter this one. Yeah, I don't know. I

1854
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:18,720
Speaker 2: don't know if the commanders are going to blink here.

1855
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're gonna do it. They clearly

1856
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 2: think nineteen million is enough for that guy. Courland Sutton

1857
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 2: just moved the needle a little bit for twenty nine

1858
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:32,720
Speaker 2: slash thirty year old wide receivers with production. So right,

1859
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 2: I think Courland Sutton's about one hundred days younger McLaurin

1860
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 2: than McLaurin.

1861
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:39,680
Speaker 1: He becomes a free agent next year, so if he

1862
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 1: plays this contract out, he's gone.

1863
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's probably the assumption, right, And you know,

1864
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:50,680
Speaker 2: does he command that kind of money on the open market, Well,

1865
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:52,879
Speaker 2: if he has a twelve hundred yard season and twelve touchdowns,

1866
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:55,600
Speaker 2: he will, you know, someone will sign him to a

1867
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 2: two year deal. And maybe he does get you know,

1868
01:28:57,439 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 2: a two year deal for forty five fifty million, who knows.

1869
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 1: Maybe, I don't know, but that's you know, he's this

1870
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 1: is the last year of his contract. And I'll say

1871
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 1: this too, he's outperformed it at this point because of

1872
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:08,599
Speaker 1: the market. Uh, it was right. I was about right

1873
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 1: on par, probably kind of a little bit over when

1874
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 1: he signed it four years ago because you know, they

1875
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 1: were going nowhere. They stunk. Uh, the ownership was a mess,

1876
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Right, So uh yeah, I agree, do it.

1877
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 1: He might get this done.

1878
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he was, like I said, he's been

1879
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 2: a model citizen. That's got to work in his favor

1880
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 2: to some degree. Yeah. That is it for day five

1881
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 2: of our training camp coverage. Steve and I'll be right

1882
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 2: back here tomorrow for day six of coverage. Plenty of

1883
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:38,560
Speaker 2: guess post practice sound we'll have it all for you.

1884
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 2: Tune in and one