1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: and Jetty and he Armstrong and Yetty and Honor Halloween. 4 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: Chipotle has announced that it will offer burritos to customers 5 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 2: and costume for six dollars. 6 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: After three pm. 7 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 3: Good news for the front of the horse, but horrible 8 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 3: news for the back. 9 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 4: I had Mexican food last night, my son and I, 10 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 4: and we both regretted it afterwards, even though it was 11 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 4: perfectly good food. It wasn't Chipotle, but you know, big greasy, 12 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 4: heavy meal. You know how it is a hot day, 13 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 4: and I've been wanting to do this for years. I 14 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,639 Speaker 4: just don't know if I could ever pull it off. 15 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 4: I would like to eat healthy well for a day, 16 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 4: it would be a good start, but like for a 17 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 4: whole week, and just see how I felt like if 18 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 4: I just ate really good light, non greasy, not fatty 19 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 4: and sugary, just like healthy for a whole week. 20 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: I think it'd be shocking how good I would feel. 21 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: I assume. 22 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish I had a nutritionist. Please don't write 23 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 3: if offering your services, I know where to find them. 24 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 3: But just you know, like Tom Brady has a cook. 25 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's somebody, very fit, attractive, blonde woman offered to 26 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 4: do that for me and I I have not taken 27 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 4: her up on that offer because it just you don't 28 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 4: want to do that, trust me, you don't want to 29 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 4: get involved in my life, but trying to feed me 30 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 4: because I just I have bad I have horrible habits. 31 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 4: There's no fixing them. But there there are very few 32 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 4: super rich things I wish I could do. Like if 33 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 4: I was super rich, like I don't need a nicer 34 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 4: car or bigger house or any of that stuff, but 35 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 4: the whole haveven Like a cook nutrition thing would be 36 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 4: pretty damn cool. Somebody that crafts you a meal, snacks 37 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 4: everything around you all the time, makes it super easy, 38 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 4: takes care of all that that I would dig I 39 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 4: think I could do it then, or maybe maybe I'm 40 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 4: lying to myself. Maybe I'd be putting on a fake 41 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 4: mustache and a hat and slipping out the back door, going. 42 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 3: To the convinced indoor, brow beating them, saying, listen, damn it. 43 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,399 Speaker 1: You work for me. I don't care what I hold you. 44 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: You're making me a big Gracie bacon burrito right now. 45 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 4: Say, it'd be like one of those things we've all 46 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 4: seen in sitcoms or whatever. Okay, don't let me out, 47 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 4: no matter how hard I beg, do not let me out. 48 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 3: The young Frankenstein see it exactly. 49 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 4: It'd be one of those Okay, I'm telling you right 50 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 4: now to start the week, no matter how hard I 51 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 4: beg or threaten you or whatever, do not let. 52 00:02:58,480 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: Me eat crap. 53 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 3: Just makes the good stuff coming up later this hour 54 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: can't wait. A really well, at least somewhat encouraging update 55 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 3: to the whole CBS News Tony de couple a ton 56 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 3: of Hashi coats flap and that that awful skin crawling 57 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 3: afraid of their own staff meeting that we played to 58 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 3: the audio for yesterday. 59 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: A little update on that story. 60 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 3: A couple of stories worth just touching on, at least briefly. 61 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: Taiwan's new leader has taken office and made a speech 62 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 3: saying essentially Taiwan Well. He reasserted his stance on Taiwan's 63 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 3: sovereignty and that Beijing had no right to represent it 64 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 3: or claim it. 65 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: But he also called. 66 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Taiwan is determined to maintain piece and stability across 67 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 3: the Taiwan straight and achieve global security and prosperity. Taiwanese 68 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 3: security officials said this week that they expected China to 69 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 3: launch new drills in response to the speech, regardless of 70 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 3: what the leader said. Chinese military said it's drills in 71 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 3: May were a strong punishment for separatist acts, to which 72 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 3: I would be tempted to reply, um. 73 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: Were separate is the thing? Lii I said. 74 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 3: The People's Republic of China has no right to represent 75 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:43,679 Speaker 3: Taiwan in Beijing. Mao Nang, spokeswoman for China's communist totalitarian 76 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 3: Foreign Ministry, shot back at president lie quote. Taiwan has 77 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 3: never been a country and will never be a country, 78 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 3: she said during a regular daily briefing. Wellly, she's way 79 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 3: better than KGP because you understand what she's trying to say. 80 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 3: That is a flashpoint totalitarian biash. Moving along headline from 81 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 3: the Wall Street Journal, Companies are scrapping or rolling back 82 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 3: DEI grants, pullback an aid for black and Hispanic owned 83 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 3: businesses follows litigation from activists. They made a commitment, it 84 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 3: went away. That's some of the activists talking about it. 85 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: But yeah, the companies, the universities, the state of California. 86 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 3: There's a big program in San Francisco that's gotten a 87 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 3: lot of scrutiny too recently. They are all flagrantly violating 88 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 3: federal law through racial preferences. 89 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 4: Well, that's one of the great examples of the difference 90 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 4: you get between a a Republican or Trump led white 91 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 4: House and Kamala Harris DEI continues to be out there 92 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 4: and grow if Kamala's in the White House, or at 93 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 4: least that's what I should be trying to pull off, 94 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 4: and it runt if Trump's. 95 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: In the white House. 96 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's I get I suppose they are activists 97 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,239 Speaker 3: in a way that people who are fighting against this stuff. 98 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 3: But to say, hey, federal law says says this, and 99 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 3: you're violating it like all the time, does that make 100 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 3: me an quote unquote activist? I suppose am I active 101 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: in this scenario? I think you know what I'm driving at. 102 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 3: Don't don't portray me as some sort of you know, 103 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: is zealot for wanting federal law that's voted upon and 104 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 3: judged by the judges. And we have elections and you're 105 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 3: familiar with the whole thing. Let's go ahead and follow it. 106 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 3: Says me, But anyway, corporate America is waking up to 107 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 3: the fact that their desperate attempts to seem woke so 108 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 3: nobody would tear them down the way could George Floyd 109 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,799 Speaker 3: went badly awry, both in terms of law and ethics 110 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 3: and race and everything else. Now this is when you 111 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 3: can sink your teeth into jack Porch. Pirates are stealing 112 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 3: AT and T I fies delivered by FedEx. Thieves appear 113 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 3: within minutes or seconds to grab packages. 114 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: Police say the heists. 115 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 3: Use tracking numbers the key to these swift crimes. Investigators 116 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 3: say the thieves are armed with tracking numbers. 117 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: It's funny. 118 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 4: I'll bring this up because I was just about to order. 119 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 4: I decided I was just going to order the sixteen 120 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 4: promacs and have it shipped to my house through Best 121 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 4: buy or whoever. 122 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: But so they have a way to track it. 123 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 3: Another factor that makes packages from AT and T particularly 124 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 3: vulnerable is that AT and T typically doesn't require signature 125 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 3: on delivery. 126 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't want the signature. I'll never get my package. 127 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 4: That makes me so angry. 128 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 3: Let me know, I know, I know it. I agree 129 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 3: with you completely. If you work during the day, what 130 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 3: are you supposed to I don't know. At the same time, though, 131 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 3: I ordered rather a zoomy MacBook Pro for music recording purposes, 132 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 3: and they just dropped it on the porch. 133 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: Now I live in a hood where it's okay, But well, 134 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: I like it as an option. Yeah, that's an option. 135 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 4: I've had it before where you can't get out of it. 136 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 4: It's very manding. 137 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 3: So doorbell video cameras show the thefts in New York, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Virginia, Michigan, Georgia, Florida, Texas. 138 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: In short to the United States, the details are similar. 139 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 3: A FedEx driver drops off a box with an iPhone 140 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 3: from at and t that a person walks up, sometimes 141 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 3: wearing an Amazon delivery vest, and plucks the package off 142 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 3: the front step. 143 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: Wow. 144 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 3: The heightst can be so quick that in some videos 145 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 3: the FedEx driver and thief cross paths. Wow, they know 146 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 3: what's getting delivered in location. According to detective in Massachusetts, 147 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 3: they meet the delivery driver at the front door and 148 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 3: take it. But I still don't get how are they 149 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 3: getting the tracking numbers or how are they knowing because 150 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 3: that seems like the root of the problem. 151 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: You got to keep that private more privately. 152 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, the two companies are say they're working with law 153 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 3: enforcement to investigate. Declined to disclose how many packages have 154 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 3: been stolen. Uh, it's not clear to me where they're 155 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 3: getting these tracking numbers inside information. 156 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 4: I think it's Apple themselves that won't let you order 157 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 4: anything without doing that. And I had something I got 158 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 4: for my son and they delivered it. I wasn't home, 159 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 4: of course, and I called them and said, no, that's 160 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 4: the only way we do it. And I said, well, 161 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 4: then I can't purchase from you, and they said, well, 162 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 4: I don't know what to do about it. I said, okay, 163 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 4: we'll send it back. I'll buy it somewhere else. There 164 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 4: was no getting it delivered without right right and the 165 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 4: hole You got to be home and it's going to 166 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 4: come between eight in the morning eight at night. 167 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: Sure, that's my lifestyle. Perfect. Yes, have you ever heard 168 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: of a job sir? Or or kids are running them around. 169 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 3: They mentioned that signatures are legally required for shipments of alcohol, 170 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 3: dangerous goods, hazardous materials, and pharmaceuticals. For other types of goods, 171 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 3: shipper typically decides whether it offer the signature option, which 172 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 3: costs the shipper seven dollars and fifteen cents extra per 173 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 3: deliver right, darn so. Chris Brown, who's a lieutenant with 174 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: the cops in Deer Park, Texas, said the suspects were 175 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 3: armed with inside information AT and T parcel tracking numbers. 176 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: They're working with AT and T. 177 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: To investigate how the suspects got that information. 178 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: That's the key to the whole thing. 179 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, they've got We have no evidence of a breach 180 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 3: or a hack, said AT and T. Two teens who 181 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 3: they busted in Texas, a seventeen year old boy and 182 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 3: an eighteen year old woman. A seventeen year old serial 183 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 3: thief is not a boy, rented a car and spent 184 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 3: hours circling neighborhoods around Houston. Video from the dash can 185 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 3: of the reunld car viewed by the Wall Street Journal 186 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 3: shows a young woman picking a package, jogging back to 187 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 3: the car, driving away over and over it over. 188 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: Wow. 189 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 4: And those are like fourteen hour dollars apiece. Yeah wow, 190 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 4: and easy to sell. I'm sure. 191 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 5: Oh. 192 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 3: I'm looking at all the videos of this because they 193 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 3: have all sorts of porch videos, surveillance videos, and I 194 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 3: just I really want to take a ball back to 195 00:10:59,240 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 3: these people. 196 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: It's maddening. The whole delivery thing though, depending on what 197 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: your neighborhood is. 198 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 4: I like, I guess, but I've seen it before where 199 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 4: there's like it's constant a UPS truck and an Amazon 200 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 4: truck and then there's a fed X and the I've 201 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 4: had door dash people walking past an Amazon person, you know, 202 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 4: on the sitewalking right. 203 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: It's just it never ending. 204 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, Katie, you had a package thief incident, didn't you, 205 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 3: not too long ago? 206 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it just got it got snatched because they 207 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 2: take the picture and it shows you it was delivered 208 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: and so it was obviously on my doorstep and then 209 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 2: no longer. But so at least I know with Apple products, 210 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 2: if you report it's stolen, Apple can actually make that 211 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: phone so it can't be used. So I don't know 212 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 2: how much benefit they would have from me. I don't 213 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 2: know much about Android, but I don't know the benefit 214 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: of stealing any Apple product and then trying to resell it. 215 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: Interesting. 216 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want if I haven't yet received the phone, 217 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 3: I could give the order number, I suppose, and they 218 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 3: would have that information at Apple. 219 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: But I wonder how cumbersome that is. I don't know. 220 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I ran into that problem buying a phone off 221 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 2: of Craigslist like an idiot, and when I picked it 222 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 2: up and tried to activate it, they said, we're sorry, 223 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 2: this phone's stolen. 224 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, ohodh. 225 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 3: At the risk of coming off as an angry lunatic, 226 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 3: oh we're running a little late, aren't we. I was 227 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 3: gonna say, if you've ever done any reading about why 228 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 3: they hanged people for stealing horses in the Old West, 229 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 3: because you need your horse, because your horse is really important, 230 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 3: and it's really really easy to steal you. 231 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: You just climb on them and they ride you away. 232 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 3: It's your own escape, your getaway vehicle, right, And it's 233 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 3: such a good deterrent to be hung for that. Well exactly, Yeah, 234 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: they made the punishment so draconian people wouldn't wouldn't do it. 235 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 3: Do I want to hang people for stealing iPhones off torches? Yes, 236 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 3: but I'm not going to say so how loud. Maybe 237 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 3: how how you have order in a society is known. 238 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 3: This is not a mystery. 239 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: One of the few Sharia things that I'm into. You 240 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: didn't have to go there. 241 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 4: If you're going to take a hand, I think twice 242 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 4: before grab my iPhone. 243 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: We're a ball bat. Let's let we can talk over 244 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: the various possibilities. 245 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 4: Barbaric thought I was over the top, all right, who. 246 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: Had solved the problem? Though there's no getting around that. Okay, 247 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: more on the way, Hi, y'all doing. 248 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 4: Glad the hurricane wasn't worse, but it does take it 249 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 4: off the table as a presidential issue. I thought it 250 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 4: was going to be really, really bad. It might be 251 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 4: the thing for next week or so. I'm sure some 252 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 4: other stupid, stupid topic will end up being the thing 253 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 4: that we they talk about in political circles for the 254 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 4: rest of the presidential election. But Kevin McCarthy, former Speaker 255 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 4: of the House, Republican and Californian, who is the same 256 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 4: age as us in Kamala Harris and came up through 257 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 4: the ranks in California politics the same time as Kamala Harris, 258 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 4: so he knows her well even though he's a Republican 259 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 4: and she's a Democrat, was on Greg Gutfeld the other 260 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 4: night on Fox and they were Greg Guttfeld was asking 261 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 4: him about you know, you know Kamala Harris, you know, 262 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 4: how smart is she or whatever, and he had a 263 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 4: variety of things to say that we found amusing, including this. 264 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 6: If you watch Kamala's history. She starts really strong on 265 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 6: a campaign. When she ran for president, she had the 266 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 6: best opening, forty thousand people in Oakland, the most people online, 267 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 6: and she never made it to Iowa when she ran 268 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 6: for US Senate and California, it's the top two. She 269 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 6: ran against another Democrat and they had to retool their 270 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 6: campaign even when the party in Doorster. When she ran 271 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 6: for attorney general, it was the one seat. On election night, 272 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 6: Republicans thought we won. We actually came close, but they 273 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 6: took up. And what I'm finding now is she started 274 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 6: strong here and you watch she's being outworked. 275 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: She can't talk to the press. 276 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 6: No way can you become the leader of the free 277 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 6: world and be afraid where a city council member takes 278 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 6: more questions than you do. 279 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just not right. 280 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought that was interesting pointing out her history 281 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 4: of running. Yeah remember her, Well, you mate probably don't 282 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 4: remember her launch. When she decided to run in twenty nineteen, 283 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 4: it was massive. I mean, she had as much winded 284 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 4: her back as you can ever get to kick off 285 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 4: a campaign and she didn't even make it to the 286 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 4: first contest. 287 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, if she ends up. 288 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 4: Being elected president, the most interesting story to history will 289 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 4: be if she'd had to go through a primary, there's 290 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 4: zero chance she would have. 291 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: Been the nominee, let alone president of the United States. Zero. 292 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 4: The only way Kamala Harris the human being, was ever 293 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 4: going to end up president the United States. Isn't some 294 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 4: weird deal like this where she's appointed the nominee? 295 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, over and over and over again, is Kevin indicated 296 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 3: she is. I'm trying to come up with the right metaphors. 297 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 3: She's like those Hollywood movie facades. If you squint your 298 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 3: eyes from the right angle, it looks really good and interesting, 299 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 3: but it doesn't bear up to any scrutiny at all. 300 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: She doesn't. Over and over again, when. 301 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 3: People get a little better look at her, they said, 302 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 3: oh boy, I'll pass she is. 303 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 4: I remember they used to say this about Hillary Clinton. 304 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 4: Hillary Clinton would go out on the campaign trail and 305 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 4: her numbers would go down in states the more she visited. 306 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 4: Kamala Harris seems to have that problem too, which I 307 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 4: suppose is why they're not letting her, you know, do 308 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 4: any press conferences or real interviews or anything like that, 309 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 4: or answering any tough questions. 310 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 3: If she were capable of answering questions. She would be 311 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 3: answering questions. She doesn't answer questions. What does that tell 312 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 3: you she's incapable of it? 313 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 4: Hey, we haven't mentioned this yet. That poor cake maker 314 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 4: in Colorado. God, dang it, he's been in the news 315 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 4: now for a dozen years. He got another three the 316 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 4: other day. You want to finally leave him alone. I 317 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 4: just wanted my cakes. 318 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: Didn't seem like that controversial choice of work. When I 319 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: started right Armstrong and Getty, I was. 320 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 4: Just watching some Erron de Santas, he's still doing a 321 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:14,479 Speaker 4: press conference right now. 322 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: Life. 323 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 4: He is so much more competent than practically anybody we've 324 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 4: had run for president in the last the quarter century. 325 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 3: Maybe I'm a fool. If I were his campaign manager, 326 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 3: I'd say, Ron, you do you don't think? 327 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: Just you do you? And we'll run twenty eight. 328 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, which I bet will happen anyway, although who knows. 329 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 3: So you may recall us talking about this yesterday, the 330 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 3: flap where Tony the couple of CBS News actually asked 331 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 3: some hard questions of Tan of Hashy coats the activists. 332 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 3: You know, a white supremacy guy, he's a genius. He's 333 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 3: just wrong about a lot of stuff. But it was 334 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 3: a great exchange of views. But it freaked out the 335 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 3: CBS newsroom that anybody'd ask hard questions of one of 336 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 3: the godheads of progressivism. 337 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,479 Speaker 4: I'd forgotten. I don't remember if I'd heard this or not. 338 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 4: The beginning of his book that made him the most famous. 339 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 4: Do you know that whole story he tells. He tells 340 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 4: of getting into an elevator with his young son who 341 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 4: was like four or six or something like that. Oh yeah, 342 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 4: and some older white man saying hello to him, And 343 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 4: how I saw in that person's eyes the four hundred 344 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 4: years of racial abuse and systemic racism in the way 345 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 4: he looked at my son. It all played out right 346 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 4: there on his face. The person didn't say or do anything. 347 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 4: He just like interpreted a white person saying a load 348 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 4: to his son as the centuries of white supremacy in 349 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 4: the United States. 350 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 3: Hey, ton of Haji, Why don't you look up projecting 351 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 3: in the psychological dictionary? Look up take it down a notch. Yeah, 352 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 3: send a load to your kid. This is a part 353 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 3: of the inner the initial interview. 354 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 7: Why is there no agency in this book for the Palestinians? 355 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 7: They exist in your narrative merely as victims of the Israelis, 356 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 7: as though they were not offered peace at any juncture, 357 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 7: as though they don't have a stake in this as well, 358 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 7: what is their role in the lack of. 359 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 5: A pel have a very very moral compass about this, 360 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 5: And again perhaps it's because of my ancestry. Either apartheid 361 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 5: is right or it's wrong. It's really really simple. Either 362 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 5: what I saw was right or what's wrong. I am 363 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 5: fascist against the death penalty. What the person did to 364 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 5: get the death penalty, it. 365 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: Really doesn't matter to me. 366 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 5: I don't care if they were selling a nickel bag 367 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 5: of marijuana or if they were a serial killer. 368 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: I am against the death penalty. 369 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 5: I am against a state that discriminates against people on 370 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 5: the base of ethnicity. I'm against that. There is nothing 371 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 5: the Palestinians could do that would make that okay for me. 372 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 5: My book is not based on the hyper moralesys the 373 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 5: Palestinian people. 374 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 3: So he's against that when it's Jews, not when it's 375 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 3: Muslims or other people of color. He's conditionally outraged by 376 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 3: that sort of thing. 377 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: But that's fine. 378 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 3: It was frank exchange views, as they say, and a 379 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 3: good one. But the CBS newsroom freaked out and had 380 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 3: this just Skin Crawley meeting. 381 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: You may recall we will still want I want. 382 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 8: To be clear, we will still ask tough questions. We 383 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 8: will still hold people accountable. That's part of our job too, 384 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 8: but we will do so objectively and that means, are 385 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 8: you plain. We have to check up bias. 386 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: And opinions at the door and you can bare out, Michael. 387 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 3: That was Adrianne Rourke and then the brilliant Jan Crawford said, ah, 388 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 3: he did precisely what you're talking about, and it was 389 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 3: really good reporting. And as somebody who does interviews, I 390 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 3: don't know what the hell I'm allowed to do and 391 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 3: what I can't do now you're freaking us all out. 392 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 3: And the boss lady said, yeah, I'd like to talk 393 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 3: to you privately about this. Wouldn't even answer the question. 394 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 3: So amazing cowardice. Anyway, a couple of things developments were 395 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 3: or less. Matthew Hennessy in the Journal with a great 396 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 3: piece CBS to Tony Diacoppel, you. 397 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: Can't report in the newsroom. 398 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 3: The network subjects the anchor to a struggle session after 399 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 3: he dares to commit journalism on the air. You mentioned 400 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 3: Edward Murrow's admonition of young journalists, don't tell me what 401 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 3: you think, tell me what you know. And he goes 402 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 3: through the uh, you know, the particulars of the interview 403 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 3: and forcefully but respectfully, and how it was actually just 404 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 3: really good journalism and it was an absolutely fair chance 405 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 3: for mister Coates to defend his point of view. Details 406 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 3: are scant, but it seems that some staffers complained up 407 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 3: to chain about Decouple's treatment of mister Coates. Networks Brass agreed, 408 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 3: and the revered author of the case for reparations in 409 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 3: between the World and me should not have had to 410 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 3: answer tough and fair questions. But why that should be 411 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 3: the case wasn't explained. In the call, Miss Rourke assured 412 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 3: her colleagues that a strong rebuke had been delivered to 413 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 3: mister de Copple. He was reportedly upbraided for his tone 414 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 3: and body language during the interview and apologized. It had 415 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 3: taken a week to organize the call, and Decopel told 416 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 3: colleagues on Tuesday he regretted the position he'd put them in. 417 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 3: What position is that exactly proximity to real journalism? And 418 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 3: then this is the part that I like because this 419 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 3: is a journalism, a big time journalism. 420 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: Insider writing. 421 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 3: These self flagellating, penitential statements called to mind similar recent 422 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 3: staff revolts of other news organizations. Young staffers at brand 423 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 3: name outlets have hoo died it veteran colleagues for their 424 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 3: commitments to the old fashioned values of objectivity and neutrality. 425 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 3: Many gen z and millennial reporters don't think that's what 426 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: journalism is supposed to be. They don't want to report 427 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 3: on the world. They want to change it. The bad 428 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 3: news is too many executives are cowed by these upstarts 429 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 3: who are motivated by quasi religious fervor and convinced they're 430 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 3: on the right side of history. They're expert at stoking 431 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 3: outrage on social media and love nothing more than claiming 432 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 3: a scalp and your editors at many outlets live in 433 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 3: fear of their own staff. 434 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: I don't get that, but it's clearly the case. 435 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 3: This reminds me in an odd way of of all things. 436 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: It's I guess it's a thing. 437 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 4: Like I said, I don't get that, and I don't, 438 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 4: but I have seen people that seem to be scared 439 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 4: of their kids, So it must be a thing, but 440 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 4: a mindset. 441 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's an interesting point. You know, I'm gonna 442 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 3: I'll get back to the point I was about to make. 443 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 3: They how she paid Rourke paid lip service to CBS 444 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 3: News editorial standards than the brave Jen Crawford asked the questions, 445 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 3: uh that she asked Those in positions of power, He 446 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 3: writes in the American media should know better than a 447 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 3: cowtow to the cancel mob. If they won't stand up, 448 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 3: they should stop calling themselves journalists and stop invoking the 449 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 3: hallowed names of their predecessors. But in a weird way, 450 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 3: it reminds me of a discussion we had an hour 451 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 3: ago or whenever. It was about how the forces of 452 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 3: non escalation in American foreign policy forbade Israel time after 453 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 3: time from eliminating their enemies, their adversaries in the name 454 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 3: of negotiation and letting Hamas rule peacefully in Gaza and 455 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 3: the rest of it. 456 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: And what that has wrought. 457 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 3: And I'm quoting Douglas Murray more or less, here is 458 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 3: war after war after war because we have forbidden them 459 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 3: to win. And it's a similar sort of moral cowardice 460 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 3: that you're seeing among the brass in the newsrooms. And 461 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 3: maybe you know I haven't worked in a big time newsroom. 462 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 3: I wouldn't. I cherish the independence that we have. But 463 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 3: why don't you go ahead and stand up for what 464 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 3: you know to be right and and deal with the consequences. 465 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 3: If you're good at what you do, you'll find another 466 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 3: gig if your newsroom indeed rises up in like that 467 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 3: poor son of a go for the New York Times 468 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 3: who dared to run an editorial from a sitting Senator 469 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 3: Tom Cotton, and he got forced out. 470 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 4: I don't know, good lord, I didn't hurt Barry Wise, 471 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 4: she went from Kyle Jon to practically a household name 472 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 4: and a hero. 473 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. 474 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, love Barry and love the free press. Yeah, I 475 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 3: just that I have no truck for that sort of cowardice. Anyway, 476 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 3: this is an interesting development, and then I'll shut up 477 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 3: about this. I just I think this is so fundamental 478 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 3: to what it would take to straighten out the United States. 479 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 3: If we don't have journalists who whose greatest principle is 480 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 3: that I will tell the truth, not my truth, the truth, 481 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 3: and if the truth is kind of sixty percent supporting 482 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 3: my side, but you know the other side. As a 483 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 3: forty percent point yep, do it. I think that's the 484 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 3: only way we straighten our society. But anyway, I thought 485 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 3: this was quite the development. Sherry Redstone, who's the controlling 486 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 3: shareholder of CBS's parent company, Paramount Global, told well. A 487 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 3: source close to Redstone told the Free Press that Miss 488 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 3: Redstone thought that quote. Tony gave a great interview and 489 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 3: modeled what civil discourse should look like, and she disagreed 490 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 3: with the action the company took. She's working with the 491 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 3: CEOs to address this issue. 492 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: Love that. 493 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's great. Somebody linked this yesterday on Twitter. So 494 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 4: part of the pushback phony pushback was we should let 495 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 4: people come on with their books and just let them, 496 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 4: you know, explain what they're doing and not you know, 497 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 4: try to get in their faces about it. And somebody 498 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 4: linked this. So Gail King, who is the highest paid 499 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 4: person on that CBS Early show. 500 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: There at CBS, it was. 501 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 4: Her interviewing the father of an eight year old Israeli 502 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 4: girl being held hostage by Hamas and he was on 503 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 4: there and tearful and upset and everything like that, and 504 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 4: Gail King pushed him hard. Innocent children, Palestinian children are 505 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 4: dying too. You call your child innocent, But they're also 506 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 4: innocent Palestinian children. Should we be concerned about them? 507 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: You know? 508 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 4: So she's gonna push that guy whose whose little girls 509 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 4: being held by murderous rapists? 510 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: Right, She's given some good, strong pushback to him. Yeah. 511 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: Make sure he claims that he's heartbroken. 512 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, make sure he doesn't just get away with me 513 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 4: and all heartbroken as a father. 514 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 3: Not only that, but so In a trailer for an 515 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 3: appearance on Trevor Noah's podcast, Coats accused Dakople of comment 516 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 3: during the interview and said a couple of stupid things. 517 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 3: But then as he was praising Gail King as a 518 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 3: great journalist and great interviewer, he said, Gail came beyond 519 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 3: the stage before we went on. 520 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: She had gone through the book. 521 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 3: And I'm not saying she agreed with the book, but 522 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 3: she was like, I'm gonna ask you about this, and 523 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 3: then i'm gonna ask. 524 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: You about that. So let's get this straight. 525 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 3: Writes The Free Press, one journalist is raked over the 526 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 3: calls for asking tough questions, while another journalist previews her 527 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 3: questions and faces no repercussions, which poses a few questions. 528 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: Chief among them. 529 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,959 Speaker 3: Are their different rules for different journalists at CBS. A 530 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 3: former CBS journalist told The Free Press that if she 531 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,719 Speaker 3: was showing him specific lines of questioning in advance, that 532 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 3: would violate journalistic standards. Are they going to investigate her 533 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 3: and say what she did was not in keeping with 534 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 3: CBS standards? 535 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: I suspect not. Well, they weren't. 536 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 4: She wasn't planning on doing a journalistic piece. She was 537 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 4: planning on doing a book promotion piece. It's like when 538 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 4: we have our friend Tim sanderfer On, we don't like 539 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 4: come up with ways to really stick it to him 540 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 4: on his book, trip him off, and so we might 541 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 4: tell him beforehand, I said, a forehand, we might tell 542 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 4: him beforehand that yeah, we're going to talk about this 543 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 4: part in this part, that's what we think would be 544 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 4: interesting to our audience. 545 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: But we're there to help him promote his book. What 546 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: she get to do. 547 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 4: But clearly that's what Gail King's intention was was to 548 00:28:59,520 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 4: help He. 549 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: Agrees with him. 550 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, as opposed to how you then you show the 551 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 4: other side of the whole Israeli Palestinian argument. 552 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 3: Well, and as coach said, I'm just here to present 553 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 3: the Palestinian side, which he's allowed to do, and Jakoppel said, well, 554 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 3: there's a lot more to it than that, and they 555 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 3: parted in a gentlemanly way. One last thing, says the 556 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 3: Free Press. Let's just say we have pattern recognition around 557 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 3: stories like this. So when two sources at CBS told 558 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 3: us that this whole dust up involved the network's networks 559 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 3: Race and Culture unit, we weren't shocked. So they have 560 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 3: a DEI anti racism unit at CBS that was deeply 561 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 3: involved in all of this. 562 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 4: Well, they're going to do some training around this. Did 563 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 4: you hear that there's gonna be DEI training for everyone? 564 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 4: Including I suppose the head guy there that did the interview. 565 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 3: Quit, Tony Quit. There are a number of outlets that 566 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 3: would be delighted to have you. You're a serious journalist and 567 00:29:59,040 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 3: a good one. 568 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 4: A special Now, so the poor cake maker in Colorado, 569 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 4: is he finally going to be left alone? 570 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: Unless? 571 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 4: In case you didn't hear how this turned out the 572 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 4: other day and a couple other things, we'll finish strong, 573 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 4: coming up. 574 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 3: Strong. 575 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 4: Well, that's groovy. That's Cage the Elephant too. I just 576 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 4: saw up on the CBS News. Apparently they got over 577 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 4: some hatred of each other. 578 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: And some other and it can be a band again 579 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: that people go out and watch. That's cool. 580 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 3: I didn't know there was hatred. I didn't know that 581 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 3: any age fans in my house, I. 582 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: Didn't know that either. 583 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 4: But that's I'm glad that works out for a number 584 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 4: of bands that if there's enough dollars involved, you decide, Yeah, 585 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 4: I guess I don't hate you that much. 586 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: Let's make this m. 587 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 3: I know one of the key guys left because he 588 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 3: didn't particularly dig the touring lifestyle, but I don't know love. 589 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 4: That might be the sort of thing you say, if 590 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 4: actually blind the scenes, you don't dig the touring lifestyle 591 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 4: because you hate that guy so much, right exactly? 592 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: Touring with him because I hate him. 593 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 4: Yes, that reminds me of you ever actually listen to 594 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 4: the audio from the Eagles, like at the end of 595 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 4: their run before they broke up, and how much they 596 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 4: hated each other. Have you ever heard that? The one 597 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 4: where Glenn Fries and Uh and Uh and Felder are 598 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 4: talking about fighting each other. Oh yeah, it's hilarious and 599 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 4: it's hard to believe it's real. They're talking in the 600 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 4: mics but to each other in their ears while the 601 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 4: concert's going on about meeting each other after the concert 602 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 4: and fighting in the parking lot. 603 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: Wow, it's crazy. 604 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 4: That's how a little counseling here fellas. That's how bad 605 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 4: it had gotten with Eagles. And then they broke up, 606 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 4: and then they decided for money reasons. They did fourteen 607 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 4: years later. I think they came back and made gazillions 608 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 4: of dollars. But they were I mean Glenn. 609 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: Fryes, like in the microhone. Oh yeah, a few, a few, Yeah, Yeah, 610 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: I'll be there, you gonna be there. 611 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 4: I mean, while they're playing the guitars, like well, Joe 612 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 4: Walsh is soloing, they're talking about I'm gonna beat the 613 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 4: hell out of you. 614 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: Still playing the song though. Hey, they got a job 615 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: to do, professionals. 616 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 3: I ran out of time for what I was gonna 617 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 3: do with my Eagle story, which was probably better anyway. 618 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 3: The Baker thing may be able to mention that during 619 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 3: the podcast, among other things, when will he tastes. 620 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: The sweet icing of satisfaction? 621 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 3: How about the sweet icing of being left alone? 622 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 623 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 8: Jack Clarks, Tom stop, Jack and Jose go And if 624 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 8: they don't get can they'll be back tomorrow. 625 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 4: I got another thought about the Eagles KG elephant thing, 626 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 4: but I'll put it in my final thought. 627 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty. 628 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 3: Hey, let's get a final thought from everybody on the 629 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 3: crew to wrap things up for the day. 630 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: There he is, Michael Angelo leading the way. 631 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 3: Michael, Jack, I really liked the idea of a hot 632 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 3: woman living with you just to control your eating. 633 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: I think it's a great idea. 634 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,719 Speaker 3: She'd be great for the show, and I think you're 635 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 3: selfish if you don't do it. 636 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: She's a married person with a family. 637 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 4: But I still just didn't like the idea of just 638 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 4: you know, you're thinking you're going to take on this 639 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 4: project of helping me eat right. 640 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: You don't know what you're getting into. Indeed, it could 641 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: be a burly fellow or anybody. 642 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, come on now, Katie Green are esteemed to Newswoman 643 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 3: as a final thought, Katie, since. 644 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,959 Speaker 2: That's probably not going to happen, I do challenge you 645 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 2: to just eat clean next week. 646 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: Jack, I would like to do it for a whole 647 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: week to see how it. 648 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 2: This week, go crazy this weekend, then just do it 649 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 2: next week? 650 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: Uh Jack? Final thought for us? 651 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, So back on the cage elephant, getting back together, 652 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 4: putting their problems aside. The Eagles, Oasis did it recently. 653 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 4: Lots of bands have done that. You got artists who 654 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 4: are crazy. They're often young, which makes you more you know, 655 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 4: whatever you are when you're young, and. 656 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: Drugs or alcohols. That has a lot to it too. 657 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: You're out of your minds. 658 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 4: Hi, You're more likely to have a crazy argument over 659 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 4: something stupid when you're out of your mind. 660 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed. 661 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 3: You know, as long as we're talking about music, my 662 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 3: final thought will be I've always said of putting together 663 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 3: and running a band, getting the music right is hard, 664 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 3: getting the people right is way harder. 665 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 4: Absolutely, it's amazing, especially when you're dealing with musicians. 666 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: It's not like you're some sort of troop of accountants. 667 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 4: That's what I liked about that Bono book that came 668 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 4: out last year. Year before explaining that whole thing is 669 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 4: really interesting about you too. Armstrong and Getty wrapping up 670 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 4: another grueling four hour workday, So. 671 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 3: Many people to thanks, so little time. Go to Armstrong 672 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 3: and Getty dot com. You can get a link to 673 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 3: the podcast there, grab them wherever you like to get 674 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 3: podcasts Armstrong and Getty on demand. And one more thing, 675 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 3: better yet, subscribe. 676 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: We will see tomorrow. God bless America. I'm strong and 677 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: get it. 678 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 8: Is an untradictable beast. 679 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: I'm huge. There's nothing wrong with you really, aside and 680 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: I was wondering you know what you felt about that 681 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: tossing yachts on to the waterfront. 682 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 3: Yeahst Tossed Yachts is my new yacht rock band. Wow, 683 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 3: that's pretty cool. You know, probably not the right time 684 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 3: for mercy. Go to that bar that's on the water 685 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 3: toss yatas playing tonight. Oh they're fantastic. 686 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: Thanks all very much, Armstrong and Getty.