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<v Speaker 1>out posters from Tiger Beat magazine, wouldn't it Team Beat?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. Smart smart plants. Uh yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>we're we're gonna be mentioning this a lot because, as

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<v Speaker 1>buy his books. Oh man, that's a great idea. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're talking today not about books necessarily. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>more about essential oils than books, although there's plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>books on essential oils, but that has nothing to do

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<v Speaker 1>with our book. Instead, essential oils has to do with

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<v Speaker 1>our podcast, in particular this episode of our podcast, which

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<v Speaker 1>is on essential oils. That's right, And these are the oils,

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<v Speaker 1>these little chemicals that are stored in plants, in the

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<v Speaker 1>glands of all different kinds of plants and all over

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<v Speaker 1>the plants from pedals to stems to roots, and depending

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<v Speaker 1>on where you are in the plant, you might be

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<v Speaker 1>getting a different kind of oil from that particular spot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there there might be a certain type of essential oil

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<v Speaker 1>found in the seeds and a totally different one found

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<v Speaker 1>in the leaves or the roots, or the bark or um,

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<v Speaker 1>the stems, the twigs, the hair, the teeth. Basically every

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<v Speaker 1>part of the plant can hold some sort of essential oil.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the things that I love about this,

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<v Speaker 1>chuck is that science isn't sure exactly what the functions

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<v Speaker 1>are of essential oils, but they know that it's some

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<v Speaker 1>form of communication. I mean, like scent as a form

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<v Speaker 1>of communication in the plant world in the animal world, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and these communicate different things, likely things like getaway, cow,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want you near me and eating me instead,

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<v Speaker 1>bring on the honey bee to help pollinate me. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll get into, um what they have been used

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<v Speaker 1>for and are used for. But uh, it's safe to

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<v Speaker 1>say that since the times of ancient Egypt, people have

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<v Speaker 1>been using essential oils, certainly back then before there was

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<v Speaker 1>modern medicine as medicine, so so we'll talk about all this.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's get into also a big shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>Julia Layton for helping us out with this one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Julia is back in the rotation, very happy about that.

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<v Speaker 1>So um essential oils duce. You know what in essential

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<v Speaker 1>oil is? Most people do um. But as far as

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<v Speaker 1>like plants go, as far as chemistry goes, they're really

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<v Speaker 1>just a certain kind of compound. You can divide them

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<v Speaker 1>into two different categories. One is oxidated compounds and the

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<v Speaker 1>other is hydrocarbons. And oxidated compounds come in all different

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<v Speaker 1>forms and shapes, things like alcohols, phenols, oxides, esters, alde

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<v Speaker 1>hydes um, and then on the hydrocarbon side there's a

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<v Speaker 1>there they follow under worn category called terpenes. If you

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<v Speaker 1>have ever been in a drug education class and the

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<v Speaker 1>the educator brought out that briefcase full of different drugs,

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<v Speaker 1>you may have gotten a whiff of the marijuana. That is,

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<v Speaker 1>the terpenes in the marijuana that give it that distinctive smell.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. And by the way, I'm gonna read it

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<v Speaker 1>on a listener mail. At some point, uh, someone said

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<v Speaker 1>that we should not use the term marijuana anymore, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, why, and and use the term cannabis because

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<v Speaker 1>apparently the term marijuana was created as sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>racist term, uh, to make it sound wow, foreign, south

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<v Speaker 1>of the border and evil. Yeah news to me, so

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<v Speaker 1>well it makes sense. Yeah sure, wow, Okay, well we'll

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<v Speaker 1>start calling it um. Okay, that's the new name for pot. Everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>X Factor. I think that's a TV show. We might

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<v Speaker 1>get sued. That's a Joe Rogan TV show, wasn't it. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that was fear Factor. I bet you anything that was

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<v Speaker 1>an X Factor, and a bet Joe Rogan had something

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<v Speaker 1>to do with it. But he's like, we've got to

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<v Speaker 1>come up with a good name for the spinoff. So

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<v Speaker 1>you were talking about um, Like you mentioned one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you said something about an alcohol. People are like, what

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<v Speaker 1>in a plant? But that's true. Like if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at peppermint oil, that that great scent that you get

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<v Speaker 1>from peppermint oil is the alcohol menthol right, And all

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<v Speaker 1>of these, all these different things, they're different kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>compounds there. Um, they have different kinds of atoms put together,

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<v Speaker 1>they do different things, They provide different functions. Again, they

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<v Speaker 1>probably all largely have to do with plant communication to

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<v Speaker 1>other plants or two animals, but they smell different. They

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<v Speaker 1>combine to make different smells. The thing that they all

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<v Speaker 1>have in common is that essential oils are all v

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<v Speaker 1>o c's volatile organic compounds, which are just a type

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<v Speaker 1>of compound. Usually I guess car been based. They might

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<v Speaker 1>have to be, yeah, because it's organic. So they're all

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<v Speaker 1>carbon based compounds that have in common the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>at room temperature or at low temperatures, they um evaporate.

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<v Speaker 1>They have their their boiling point is so low that

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<v Speaker 1>it happens at room temperature, and it can happen at

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<v Speaker 1>such a low point that it doesn't actually even go

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<v Speaker 1>from solid you know, alcohols too, to liquid into gas.

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<v Speaker 1>It can sublimate sometimes just from solid into gas. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's that gas that spreads out off of the plants

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<v Speaker 1>stems or leaves or roads or petals, whatever, and and

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<v Speaker 1>hit our olfactory senses through our nose and we smell.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's all it is. It's a compound that that

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<v Speaker 1>vaporizes very easily at low temperatures and spreads through the air. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know those little tiny droplets they diffused through

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<v Speaker 1>the cell membrane and then all of a sudden they're

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<v Speaker 1>on the surface of the plant, just waiting for somebody's

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<v Speaker 1>nostrils to come by. But it's kind of like that

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<v Speaker 1>that old question like if a tree falls in the woods,

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<v Speaker 1>does it make a sound? Like if if there's nobody

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<v Speaker 1>there to smell a volatile organic compound, does it actually smell?

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<v Speaker 1>And the answer is clearly yes, yeah, and just the

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<v Speaker 1>tiniest I mean, sometimes you can just smell with your

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<v Speaker 1>nose and it smells great. But sometimes the tiniest bit

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<v Speaker 1>of activation, we'll get it going. Um. One of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite things to do is on a walk when someone's

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<v Speaker 1>got one of those big, beautiful rosemary bushes out in

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<v Speaker 1>there by the sidewalk, it's just, you know, Emily and

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<v Speaker 1>I both and my daughter to just run our hands

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<v Speaker 1>up one of those stalks and just rub our hands together,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've got delicious steak hands. Which is why I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's also a good example why if you grow rosemary

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<v Speaker 1>that you use in your food, you want to grow

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<v Speaker 1>it away from the side because who knows people are

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<v Speaker 1>touching who was walking by with what on their hands

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<v Speaker 1>rubbing your food. Basically, hey, man, if you if you've

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<v Speaker 1>got edibles in your front yard, then that's your fault.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm saying, yeah, but you so you you

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<v Speaker 1>need like the public rosemary bush for people to walk

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<v Speaker 1>by and smell. Then you need like your head stashed

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<v Speaker 1>rosemary bush up by your house, you know, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>if you go up to the house, you can lean

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<v Speaker 1>out the window and say, hey, sir, that's my private bush.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay away, Steer clear, steer clear. So um okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>volt organic compounds, we've kind of gotten that across I think, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and with essential oils, this is I think pretty essential

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<v Speaker 1>to know m hm, that when you smell something like

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<v Speaker 1>lavender or rose or juniper or something like that, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know what that smell smells like. And from researching

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff, I think scientists have managed to isolate the

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<v Speaker 1>essential oils found in like three thousand different species of

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<v Speaker 1>plants so far, um, three hundreds of of which and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about this more later, but three hundred of

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<v Speaker 1>which have been shown to have some sort of biomedical properties,

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<v Speaker 1>which is pretty important. Um. But from all of these

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<v Speaker 1>they've realized there is a central player, right, Like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>what was the one that you called out? Peppermint oils?

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<v Speaker 1>Menthol It's a type of alcohol. But if you just

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<v Speaker 1>smell menthol, you're you're not like that that smells like

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<v Speaker 1>peppermint instead. The essential oil is that main component, that

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<v Speaker 1>main volatile organic compound with dozens or hundreds of others

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<v Speaker 1>in varying quantities and amounts, all mixed together just perfectly

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<v Speaker 1>so that you have not menthol, but peppermint, the essential

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<v Speaker 1>oil of peppermint um. And that is what in essential

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<v Speaker 1>oils is. It's a really intricate, complex combination of volatile

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<v Speaker 1>organic compounds. That is the essence of that plant. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>the essence of the plant. That's exactly perfectly said. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just say this now. We're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>them in a minute. But there is a Swiss chemist

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<v Speaker 1>chuck Um named Paracelsus, and he was an alchemist, and

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out the alchemists are the ones who coined

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<v Speaker 1>the term essential oil because the alchemists believe believed in

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<v Speaker 1>five elements. The four elements were earth, wind, water, and fire,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there was a fifth element that was like elusive.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the one that bound all the other elements

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<v Speaker 1>together and just it was the glue that bound reality

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<v Speaker 1>and existence in the universe together. And so quintessential comes

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<v Speaker 1>from quinta essence, meaning the fifth essence or the fifth element,

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<v Speaker 1>and so quintessential is was shortened eventually into essential oil,

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<v Speaker 1>which was the thought to be the purest, most um,

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<v Speaker 1>basic fundamental essence of a plant. So that's where we

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<v Speaker 1>get essential oil is from alchemists. Boy, why wasn't there

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<v Speaker 1>a soul band in the seventies named the Fifth Essence

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<v Speaker 1>featuring Billy d Volumes they could open for earth, wind,

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<v Speaker 1>and fire and water and they would have done the

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<v Speaker 1>soundtrack to the Fifth Element. Yeah. Whatever, So if we

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<v Speaker 1>go back in time, if we hopp in the old

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<v Speaker 1>way back machine, Boy, we haven't been in this thing

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<v Speaker 1>for a while. Think about it. Kick it, Jerry, it's

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<v Speaker 1>fired up. It smells a little musty. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>we've been in this thing since. You didn't dry out

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<v Speaker 1>the life preservers from last time. You just threw them

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<v Speaker 1>in there in a pile, and now they're all well.

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<v Speaker 1>Luckily we have some essential oils on hand, because we're

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<v Speaker 1>going back to ancient Egypt and this is when they

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<v Speaker 1>started using essential oils, integrating them into medicine. Um, the

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<v Speaker 1>trades between you know, of course in China they were

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<v Speaker 1>doing stuff like this and the Orient and trade routes

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<v Speaker 1>between the Orient and the Mediterranean really opened up this up,

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<v Speaker 1>opened up this trade to these sort of magical oils

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<v Speaker 1>as far as they were concerned. We know it's not magic. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>back back then, this was this was early medicine, you

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<v Speaker 1>know for sure. Yeah, and I mean it was. It

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<v Speaker 1>was used in traditional Chinese medicine still is. UM. It's

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<v Speaker 1>spread from Egypt to the Mediterranean, to the Greeks, to

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<v Speaker 1>the Romans, um over to the Persians who figured out

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<v Speaker 1>how to distill ethyl alcohol from sugar, which was become

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<v Speaker 1>a really big component in UM. Extracting essential oils from plants.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a huge innovation. UM. And then that trickled

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<v Speaker 1>over to Europe in the Middle Ages, and um, that

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<v Speaker 1>is where we join up with our friend Paracelsus, that

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<v Speaker 1>Swiss chemist who's birth name was Philippus theo ast Us

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<v Speaker 1>Aerolis Bombastus von Hohenheim. Oh man, it's amazing, and't an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing just von Hohenheim gets some statue in my mind. Yeah, yeah,

0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:15.040
<v Speaker 1>that's that's pretty amazing. But he was known as the

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<v Speaker 1>Luther of medicine because at the time people were like, oh,

0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:20.720
<v Speaker 1>this Galen guy had it all figured out. There's four

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<v Speaker 1>humors and that explains everything. He's like, no, no, let's

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<v Speaker 1>use like evidence based science. Let's use things like chemistry.

0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.480
<v Speaker 1>And this guy was an alchemist even and he died

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<v Speaker 1>bitter and angry because no one would listen to him.

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<v Speaker 1>But he really helped kind of push things forward as

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<v Speaker 1>far as reforming science into thinking scientifically is concerned. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was a big proponent of these plant oils

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<v Speaker 1>that he was extracting, and uh, the compositions were revealed

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineteenth century, and then of course, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the twentieth century comes along and we get much more

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<v Speaker 1>efficient with our extraction and that just means more essential oils,

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<v Speaker 1>which means more experimentation basically, Yeah, you know, and good smoking,

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<v Speaker 1>a little X factor and a little fooling around. Who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>Should we take a break? Definitely? Now, all right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>take a break, and we'll talk about this extraction process.

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<v Speaker 1>Something that I see under my deck a lot these days.

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<v Speaker 1>Right after this, so I want to say something chuck

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<v Speaker 1>with extraction um one of the reasons why essential oils

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<v Speaker 1>are so expensive, and if you get really good at

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<v Speaker 1>essential oil, you're gonna pay a lot for it. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw if you bought a leader, which seems like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of rose oil. But if you're going to turn

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<v Speaker 1>around and sell in smaller amounts of other people, you

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<v Speaker 1>probably buy a leader if you have twenty one thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars to cough up for a single leader of rose oil.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason why essential oils are so expensive is

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<v Speaker 1>because it takes so much plant material to to get

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<v Speaker 1>that essence from it. Right, So with with roses in particular,

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<v Speaker 1>you can expect to need about five metric tons of

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<v Speaker 1>rose petals just to get a kilogram of rose oil,

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand lemons to get a kilogram of lemon oil,

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<v Speaker 1>and something like four hundred and forty pounds of fresh

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<v Speaker 1>lavender flowers to get a kilogram of lavender essential oil. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for our American friends who are like, dude, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you even talking about? Um, six hundred pounds of rose

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<v Speaker 1>petals for one ounce of essential oil or forty to

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<v Speaker 1>sixty rosebuds for a single goal drop of rose otto

0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:07.639
<v Speaker 1>essential oil. I love stuff like that. Well, essential oils,

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<v Speaker 1>they're my favorite new thing. No, it's cool, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>also you know, sustainability is an issue because of that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>they use the most plant material to produce produce that

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<v Speaker 1>very small amount of oil. So you're throwing away the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the plant. Well, yeah, I mean that is true.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's another way to look at it, Chuck. If

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<v Speaker 1>if the purpose of life, genetically speaking, is to multiply

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<v Speaker 1>as much as possible, we are helping plants by propagating them,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're doing it because those plants are producing a

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<v Speaker 1>smell that we like. So in this sense, we are

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<v Speaker 1>the slaves of plants who were propagating as much as

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<v Speaker 1>we possibly can to produce that smell. More. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Emily is all about essential oils for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's also gotten much more into using the whole

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<v Speaker 1>herb and the whole plant, um and trying to use

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<v Speaker 1>like as much as the plant as possible, which is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. She's like, here, just stick this whole twig

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<v Speaker 1>of rosemary up your nose and you'll be fine. She's

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<v Speaker 1>really learned a lot. Man. It's it's pretty impressive to cease,

0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:14.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, and inspiring to see someone learning so much,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, midlife, uh something brand new, like going back

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<v Speaker 1>to school. Basically, yeah, I can actually attest. This is

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<v Speaker 1>not a paid plug, everybody, Chuck, does not give me

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<v Speaker 1>money for these. Um. We got some soaps and some

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<v Speaker 1>room sprays. I think I told you from from Emily

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<v Speaker 1>from her company, and we actually sent some to some

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<v Speaker 1>friends and within like a couple of weeks, they were asking,

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<v Speaker 1>they were dead. Where can we they said, where can

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<v Speaker 1>we get some more of this? Because we're spraying this

0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:49.280
<v Speaker 1>lavender spray on our pillows every night to go to sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>And they wanted to make sure that they could secure

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<v Speaker 1>more because they were halfway through the bottle. That we

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<v Speaker 1>said them, not even like we're out where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>where'd you guys get this? It was we're halfway through.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to make sure we can get some more.

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<v Speaker 1>So Emily making the good stuff for sure, that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>and go to love your Mama dot com and and

0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:09.359
<v Speaker 1>check it out. She's a small business and they're all

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<v Speaker 1>hurting right now. So we always appreciate the business so extraction.

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<v Speaker 1>There are have been a lot of different methods over

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<v Speaker 1>the years. As Emily told me, she's like that, you

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<v Speaker 1>know these are all ancient methods, or not all ancient methods,

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<v Speaker 1>but many of these are ancient methods. Does she say

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<v Speaker 1>things like low first, low, these be ancient methods, wonderful?

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<v Speaker 1>She does say all flourage, which is a very interesting

0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:43.439
<v Speaker 1>older technique where you isolate these essential oils by using

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<v Speaker 1>purified fats. And this all sounds gross, but what you

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<v Speaker 1>would do back in the day, and I'm sure there

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<v Speaker 1>are probably still some people doing it this way, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can probably go, like pay five dollars to

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<v Speaker 1>watch them dress up an al temy clothes and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>and do this. But you would get a tallow and

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<v Speaker 1>large mixture and spread it out on a flat surface

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<v Speaker 1>and then, uh, the first thing you have to do

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<v Speaker 1>with any of these is you got to crush up

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<v Speaker 1>the plants really well, and you you coat it with

0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:15.480
<v Speaker 1>these crushed up plants, and the fat absorbs these v

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<v Speaker 1>o C s. It takes a few days. Then you

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<v Speaker 1>filter out those plant parts, you know, because you don't

0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:23.720
<v Speaker 1>want those around anymore. You've gotten what you needed from them.

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<v Speaker 1>You're done with them, get out of my sight. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the fat will eventually become saturated with this essential oil.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you extract that oil with a solvent basically

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<v Speaker 1>like alcohol. Yeah, from what I saw though, it is

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<v Speaker 1>this is a multi step process where once you extract

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<v Speaker 1>or once you get rid of like the plant material,

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<v Speaker 1>once you've gotten the essential oil out of it, you

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<v Speaker 1>repeat the process again and again and again until like

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<v Speaker 1>the fat is saturated with essential oil. Yeah, that's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>cool and that I mean, that's great. That seems very ancient. Indeed. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>And there's another variation of it called maceration hot at,

0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:03.320
<v Speaker 1>which is um where you do the same thing, but

0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:05.879
<v Speaker 1>you warm the fat to kind of speed up the

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<v Speaker 1>absorption process. So I guess that means that essential oils,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least certain kinds of them, are fat soluble,

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<v Speaker 1>is what I'm taking from this. Yeah, I couldn't really

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<v Speaker 1>figure out this maceration. That may be an old term um,

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<v Speaker 1>because like a macerated oil is basically an infused oil

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<v Speaker 1>for use a carrier oil. Now. Yeah, my understanding or

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<v Speaker 1>my familiarity with masceration is um. When you make a shrub,

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<v Speaker 1>a vinegar shrub to put in cocktails or whatever. Macerating

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<v Speaker 1>is where you basically chemically mash the fruit by putting

0:23:44.680 --> 0:23:47.040
<v Speaker 1>so much sugar on it that it just breaks it down.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you take that and add vinegar to it

0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:52.439
<v Speaker 1>and shake it up and let it sit for a

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks and thank me later. One of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>ways of extraction is good old fashioned mechanic cold expression

0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:06.320
<v Speaker 1>another good band name. And this is like uh citrus rhyns,

0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:09.399
<v Speaker 1>like all those great essential oils that you get from

0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:13.879
<v Speaker 1>an orange peel or or lemon peel, and you cold

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<v Speaker 1>press this stuff and just extract those oils with good

0:24:17.400 --> 0:24:20.800
<v Speaker 1>old fashioned elbow grease. This is what Lucile Ball was

0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:24.040
<v Speaker 1>doing to those grapes and that classic episode where she's

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<v Speaker 1>mashing grapes by jumping around a tub with another lady.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, is there anything better than taking a lemon

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<v Speaker 1>twist and squeezing that thing into a drink and seeing

0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:41.399
<v Speaker 1>those little that citrus sneeze come out of it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then like that it kind of floats like oil

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<v Speaker 1>on top of the drink. It's when you get it

0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:50.800
<v Speaker 1>just right, it is very satisfying. Agreed or two. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you ever just like use some lemon juice and

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<v Speaker 1>then throw away that lemon without using the peel for something,

0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:00.680
<v Speaker 1>then you're doing it wrong, like just rayed in the air,

0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:02.960
<v Speaker 1>sprayed on your counter, sprayed on your hands. Do whatever,

0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh friend, this is what you do with a lemon peel.

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<v Speaker 1>You never throw it away. You throw it into your

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<v Speaker 1>um garbage disposal and eventually run your garbage disposal, and

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:17.639
<v Speaker 1>not only does it make your garbage disposal smell really good,

0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:21.399
<v Speaker 1>it actually disinfects the garbage disposal so that it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>smell funky nice. Yeah, do that, Like if you drink

0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:29.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of lemon water, your garbage disposal is going

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<v Speaker 1>to thank you for it. I saw one of those,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hate calling them hacks, but one of those

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<v Speaker 1>food hacks lists the other day, and this was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>You take, instead of cutting the lemon and then getting

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<v Speaker 1>like a cheese cloth or something to keep those seeds

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<v Speaker 1>and things in there, you just roll it on the

0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:49.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, before you do anything. You roll it on

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<v Speaker 1>the counter like a rolling pin with your hand and

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<v Speaker 1>just get it all soft and squishy, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>just stick like a like a skewer or like a

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<v Speaker 1>kebab skewer through the little what is it called the nipple, Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>the nip, the nip of the lemon all the way through,

0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:10.080
<v Speaker 1>and then that's just a little spout and you can

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<v Speaker 1>just squeeze the heck out of that thing. The only

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 1>thing that's coming out as the juice. I've never heard

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:17.600
<v Speaker 1>of that food hack. That was a good one. You

0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 1>know what else we could call that part of the

0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:24.119
<v Speaker 1>lemon is the lemons moose knuckle? What do you think

0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:30.080
<v Speaker 1>about that? That or the nip? Make your choice? What

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<v Speaker 1>else do we have? Well, Emily is a steam distiller.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, she's got a still and she uses uh

0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:40.520
<v Speaker 1>steam distillation process, which is very cool to see. So

0:26:40.680 --> 0:26:43.520
<v Speaker 1>with steam distillation is basically the same thing that you

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:47.760
<v Speaker 1>would use to make um like gin. The still that

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:49.800
<v Speaker 1>we talked about in Gin is basically the same thing

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:52.760
<v Speaker 1>where you've got some hot water that's producing steam. The

0:26:52.800 --> 0:26:56.000
<v Speaker 1>steam rises up through like a great or a grid

0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:59.159
<v Speaker 1>or something. Um, it passes through that and then up

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<v Speaker 1>past these mashed up bits of whatever plant you're extracting

0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:06.359
<v Speaker 1>the essence from. And then that water vapor carries those

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:09.560
<v Speaker 1>essential oils from the mashed up plant up, up, up,

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:11.919
<v Speaker 1>and then down down, down again to another part of

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:15.440
<v Speaker 1>the still where it's cooled and turns into a combination

0:27:15.560 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 1>of oil and water. And correct me if I'm getting

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:21.200
<v Speaker 1>any of this wrong, because I've never actually seen this firsthand.

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:24.720
<v Speaker 1>And then the oil and water goes into the final

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:28.480
<v Speaker 1>little area with a spigot at the bottom for the

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 1>water and speak it at the top for the oil,

0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:34.879
<v Speaker 1>which will eventually start to float. It sounds about right, Okay, great,

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:37.160
<v Speaker 1>And then I saw something else chuck that ties into

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:40.960
<v Speaker 1>another episode of ours that I found very satisfying. Ultrasound

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 1>is used sometimes two premash the um or I guess

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 1>pre extract the essential oils. So you'll take say I

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:57.320
<v Speaker 1>saw a demonstration using this ultrasound wand basically, and they've

0:27:57.359 --> 0:28:02.159
<v Speaker 1>had a cup of water and um like hops that

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:04.679
<v Speaker 1>they mashed up some hops and they just stuck the

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 1>ultrasound wand in the water and made the water go crazy.

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:10.560
<v Speaker 1>And what they found is that using a lot less

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:15.160
<v Speaker 1>energy and even less plant material, you can extract more

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 1>essential oil because the cavitation that's produced by those sound

0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:22.879
<v Speaker 1>waves in the walls of the cells that hold the

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 1>essential oil in the plant, those cell walls get busted

0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:31.359
<v Speaker 1>open and so when more essential oil comes out, so

0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:34.919
<v Speaker 1>you can actually get more essential oil out of the plant.

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:38.960
<v Speaker 1>And it takes lower temperature steam to look that essential

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:41.959
<v Speaker 1>oil out, so there's no thermal degradation. There's a lot

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:45.640
<v Speaker 1>less thermal degradation, so you use less plant material, less

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:49.320
<v Speaker 1>energy to get more essential oil out thanks to the

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 1>beauty of ultrasound. Now, before they did that demonstration, did

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 1>they say this wand has not been up anyone's but

0:28:56.680 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 1>of course that's how they start every single video in Germany.

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, that was the German company. Sure, and they're

0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:09.760
<v Speaker 1>into that kind of thing. Yeah, and Germans listen to this,

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:16.600
<v Speaker 1>hey Germany, because we have a specifically tailored ad for Germany,

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 1>which I'm proud of punch about. Yeah, guten talk everyone.

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 1>Uh do you know what that means? Uh? It means

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 1>this wand has not been up anybody's But that's right,

0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:32.920
<v Speaker 1>guten talk. So the uses of essential oils um depending

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 1>on who you ask, and we'll get into the controversies

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:40.840
<v Speaker 1>of how they're marketed, because there are some for sure. Um,

0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:43.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you read some sites, they'll say basically

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:46.280
<v Speaker 1>they'll cure anything, or maybe not cure anything, because you

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 1>have to be careful of how you say things. But

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 1>they still say that. Yeah, it's bad. But some of

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 1>the legit uses of essential oils um. They can be

0:29:57.080 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 1>a preservative, they can be a flavoring agent. They are

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 1>certainly used as scent agents and all all kinds of things.

0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Um Emily makes her own insect repellent, mosquito repellent. Was

0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 1>she used like citronella um jeez, I should know this

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 1>because I sprayed all over my body like every night.

0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I just strussed her that she's doing

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 1>it right. Uh, it can be a fungicidal, herbicidal, and

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:27.320
<v Speaker 1>pesticidal agent for crops. And then there's a Roman therapy

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 1>which we'll get into in a few minutes as well. Yeah,

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:32.000
<v Speaker 1>and all those will make a lot more sense than

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:35.240
<v Speaker 1>a second once we talked about the actual evidence based

0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:43.760
<v Speaker 1>research into what um kind of biomedical properties essential oils have. Uh.

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:46.960
<v Speaker 1>One of the things that we found like pretty early on,

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:50.720
<v Speaker 1>and we should say, there's you know, hundreds of essential

0:30:50.720 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 1>oils that are used um for a Roman therapy or

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 1>for industrial purposes, and we really have studied just a

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 1>handful of them. The ones that we have studied have

0:31:01.320 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 1>turned up some pretty interesting results. Like we've found that

0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:10.719
<v Speaker 1>very clearly some essential oils are antimicrobial and antifungal as well.

0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Some essential oils are both at the same time, Like

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 1>clove oil. If you're a bacteria or a fungus, you

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 1>do not want to be around clove oil because it

0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 1>is going to mess you up pretty bad, worse than

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 1>than Rocky on Draco. Eventually. Yeah, Tea tree oil is

0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:29.920
<v Speaker 1>something we use a lot in our house as well,

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 1>UM to like dry out pimple, let's say, or to

0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>heal something, uh you know, uh, something like on your skin.

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 1>It's very good for skin treatments. Uh what else here? UM?

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean? And we should mention to the reason people

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 1>are turning to these is because there's a big movement

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 1>UM and there always has been, but there's seems like

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 1>it's really gained steam in the last decade of people

0:31:55.360 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 1>trying to find uh natural alternatives to UM synthetic treatments. Sure,

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 1>which is laudable and commendable UM as long as the

0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 1>science backs it up. And part of the science also

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 1>too is showing that it's not actually harmful, which we'll

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 1>talk about two. But one of the things that they're

0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:15.920
<v Speaker 1>figuring out about essential oil, and they are scientists, I

0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 1>should say, is that because they have antifungal properties and

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:25.320
<v Speaker 1>anti microbial properties, UM, and because those properties survive being vaporized,

0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 1>that you could use this stuff as a spray for

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 1>a cleaner conceivably. And that's not to say like just

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 1>stop using any other cleaner and just use clove oil,

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 1>although we use clove oil a lot to disinfect things.

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 1>We use lavender oil to disinfect things. So I don't know,

0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 1>maybe do what you want. But um, we're probably going

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 1>to start seeing more essential oils in cleaning products than

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:53.440
<v Speaker 1>we do even now, and they're starting to be all

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 1>over the place. Yeah, I mean, the air based disinfectant

0:32:57.360 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 1>is pretty interesting. We use um, you know, Emily makes

0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 1>room sprays, and those I don't think are so much

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 1>for the disinfectant as just a good, you know, scent

0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:11.080
<v Speaker 1>based poop cover up. Yeah. Oh, I hadn't thought about that.

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:13.800
<v Speaker 1>I was just using it to make the room exponentially

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 1>more pleasant. Yeah, but they're good to have in the bathroom,

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, what do you mean empty poop?

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I got you. Another cool thing is is there is, uh,

0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 1>increasingly there is drug resistance among infectious microorganisms, and so

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:37.080
<v Speaker 1>that is opened up the doors for more research into

0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:42.719
<v Speaker 1>the anti pathogenic properties of essential oils because they're saying, like, hey,

0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 1>maybe some of this stuff can be replaced these synthetic

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 1>compounds with these natural compounds. So they're so they're talking

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:53.280
<v Speaker 1>about MERSA here, right. So, like one of the problems

0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:56.120
<v Speaker 1>with Mercy's that it's resistant to the drugs. We have

0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:59.000
<v Speaker 1>so even if you even if even if you're like

0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't care if it's all natural or the most

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 1>horrid industrial compound we've ever come up with, kill the

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:08.759
<v Speaker 1>mersa because it can kill us and we can't treat it. Um.

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 1>They're finding that the essential oil has properties that mersa

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:16.319
<v Speaker 1>can't UM develop our resistance too. So not only can

0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:19.239
<v Speaker 1>I kill mersa, we would expect that Mercy is not

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:22.760
<v Speaker 1>eventually going to evolve to be resistant to these essential

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:27.239
<v Speaker 1>oils as well. Yeah, and um, I mean maybe now

0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 1>would be a good time to take that next break

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 1>because we were going to dive into a roman therapy

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:35.359
<v Speaker 1>and that's the one area, like you said, they've done uh,

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say a lot, but they're doing more and

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:41.120
<v Speaker 1>more studies on a handful of essential oils in their

0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:44.240
<v Speaker 1>and their uses. But aroma therapy is the one area

0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 1>where they still have not done a ton of studies.

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:51.399
<v Speaker 1>And that's probably the most controversial area of essential oils,

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't you say it is for sure? And before we

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 1>take a break, I do want to say we're talking

0:34:56.640 --> 0:35:00.799
<v Speaker 1>about individual studies that are basically the first apps in

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 1>a scientific understanding of the properties the biomedical properties of

0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:09.680
<v Speaker 1>essential oils. So it's all like g whiz and everything.

0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 1>But it's not. It's not, it's not it's not settled

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 1>by any any stretch of the imagination. We're still just

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 1>beginning to investigate this stuff, so bear that in mind

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:43.480
<v Speaker 1>as well. Alright, Chuck, we're back. It's right to talk

0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:47.440
<v Speaker 1>about aroma therapy and um, this is when you get

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 1>into how the different applications for essential oils. Um there

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:54.440
<v Speaker 1>and Emily told me to make sure I mentioned that

0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:56.880
<v Speaker 1>there is, uh, there are people out there that are

0:35:56.880 --> 0:36:01.960
<v Speaker 1>recommending people actually ingest essential oils more and more, and

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:04.959
<v Speaker 1>she's saying, don't do that. That sounds a lot like

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:12.920
<v Speaker 1>injecting bleach or um cleaner to combat viruses. That's not

0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:17.319
<v Speaker 1>that's not how these work. Yeah, she's saying that there

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 1>are people out there recommending that you literally ingest this stuff.

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 1>And she's saying, don't just don't do that. M much. Yeah,

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 1>it's much much better in a tincture maybe, or a

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:31.320
<v Speaker 1>topical thing, or in this case, we're talking about a

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Roman therapy, which is breathing stuff in either through your

0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:39.920
<v Speaker 1>skin or into your mouth and the lungs. Yeah, but

0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:43.399
<v Speaker 1>either way, apparently, however, you ingest it like that through

0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 1>your lungs or your nose or mouth, um, your your

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 1>old factory center is initiated and it starts doing all

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:55.480
<v Speaker 1>sorts of different things depending on what the what volatile

0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 1>organic compounds are hitting it right. And when I found

0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 1>that was really good. Example my favorite smell of all

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 1>time lavender and lavender through some studies, isn't it great?

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:13.240
<v Speaker 1>Through some studies, lavender has been shown to um prevents

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 1>serotonin reuptake. They they've shown what kind of neuro neurochemical

0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:22.879
<v Speaker 1>mechanisms lavender affects our brains through, and one of them

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:27.120
<v Speaker 1>is it prevents serotonin transporters from doing their job. Once

0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 1>the serotonin transporter gets ahold of like a serotonin molecule,

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 1>that thing gets taken out of your brain and you're

0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:38.399
<v Speaker 1>no longer feeling your mood from that particular molecule serotonin. Well,

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:42.440
<v Speaker 1>lavender or specifically I think laven dual, which is a

0:37:42.520 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 1>turpin from lavender, prevents the serotonin from taking up or

0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 1>the serotonin transporter from taking up that serotonin. This step one,

0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 1>and then another one is that it's an n d M,

0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:57.800
<v Speaker 1>a receptor antagonist, which puts it in the same class

0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:05.279
<v Speaker 1>of chemicals, uh that dissociative chemicals as ketamine. So it does.

0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:09.120
<v Speaker 1>They they've actually studied lavender now closely enough to say

0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:11.360
<v Speaker 1>this is how it affects your brain, and it definitely

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:13.839
<v Speaker 1>does affect your brain. So there is something to the

0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:19.440
<v Speaker 1>idea that aroma therapy does have therapeutic effects, and lavender

0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:23.640
<v Speaker 1>in particular. Now we understand how now do you mean, uh,

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 1>S s R I potential like a natural S s

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 1>R I. I don't know, because I think part of

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:32.800
<v Speaker 1>the other thing about essential oils too, is like the

0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:35.160
<v Speaker 1>impact and the effects that they have on us are

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:39.880
<v Speaker 1>pronounced enough that we could study them and see them.

0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:42.479
<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't necessarily mean we're going to be able

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 1>to just take lavender pills as like a mood enhancer

0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 1>or to combat depression. There it's just not pronounced enough

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:54.240
<v Speaker 1>for that. It could conceivably open a door to some

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:57.200
<v Speaker 1>some inquiry or some investigation that could lead to new

0:38:57.239 --> 0:39:01.440
<v Speaker 1>synthetic compounds based on what we find it. Just taking

0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:04.440
<v Speaker 1>like lavender is not going to cure your depression from

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 1>from anything I've seen, Yeah, And I think I mean

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:11.080
<v Speaker 1>it depends on who you're talking to. Some people might

0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 1>advocate for complete replacement of you know, a practice or

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:19.120
<v Speaker 1>of TCM. Let's say, might be like, no, man, not

0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:23.360
<v Speaker 1>don't take any any of these uh um quote unquote

0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Western medicines, Like this is the only stuff that you

0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:29.239
<v Speaker 1>need to be taking. But other people will say, hey,

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:33.680
<v Speaker 1>you can augment uh with things like lavender or eucalyptus

0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:36.360
<v Speaker 1>or cedar wood and stuff like that. I have no

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:39.640
<v Speaker 1>problem with augmenting. I have no problem with traditional medicine

0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:43.000
<v Speaker 1>of any culture. As long as it works, it's not

0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 1>harmful to the user, and it's not harmful to other

0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:51.480
<v Speaker 1>sentient beings or the planet. Those are really my only qualifications.

0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:54.040
<v Speaker 1>As long as it works, just go for it. But

0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:57.320
<v Speaker 1>just make sure that those those caveats are are checked

0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:01.319
<v Speaker 1>or else it's harmful. Yeah. Well, let's let's talk about

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:06.279
<v Speaker 1>some of these uh purported benefits of these various oils.

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:10.439
<v Speaker 1>We talked about lavender. Of course, relaxation. Sleep is where

0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:12.040
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna see a lot of it, like springing on

0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:16.480
<v Speaker 1>your pillow. Um. Eucalyptus is a big one for congestion,

0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:22.840
<v Speaker 1>for burns, for cold sores, arthritis. Even rose is a

0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:25.600
<v Speaker 1>big one for anxiety. UH and a lot of these

0:40:25.640 --> 0:40:27.920
<v Speaker 1>two have to do with skin things like eczema or

0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:32.160
<v Speaker 1>dan druff or rosatia and stuff like that, and all

0:40:32.200 --> 0:40:34.359
<v Speaker 1>of these you should say, these are all ones that

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:38.040
<v Speaker 1>like the essential oil industry says that not not that

0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:41.839
<v Speaker 1>science necessarily backs up right. Well, that's what I meant

0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:44.920
<v Speaker 1>by purported health benefits. Okay, gotcha, I got you. Yeah,

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:48.719
<v Speaker 1>I didn't pick up on that. Uh. Or if you play,

0:40:48.840 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 1>uh the video game dead Red Redemption, you can spend

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:55.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of your time gathering herbs because it's the

0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Old West. What do you do with those herbs? You

0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:00.920
<v Speaker 1>use them in craft to print things with them to

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:04.000
<v Speaker 1>help yourself. Oh that's do they have X factor in it?

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 1>And I got a bit by a rattlesnake the other

0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:10.360
<v Speaker 1>day in the game, and I said, you've you've been poisoned.

0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:13.480
<v Speaker 1>You might want to go find some medicinal herbs and

0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:17.239
<v Speaker 1>can eat them. Did you survive? I survived And I

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:20.239
<v Speaker 1>shot that snake too. You shot the snake. That's gotta

0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:23.920
<v Speaker 1>be tough to shoot a snake. Yeah, Uh, they are

0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:27.120
<v Speaker 1>tough to hit, yes, unless you pull out the old shotgun. Oh,

0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:30.120
<v Speaker 1>well there you go. Yeah, it's funny. Someone who loves

0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:32.560
<v Speaker 1>animals and hates hunting as much as I do. Really

0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:34.640
<v Speaker 1>gets a kick out of hunting in this game. Oh,

0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:37.919
<v Speaker 1>it's different. I don't think it counts. It's not real

0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:42.080
<v Speaker 1>as far as we know, it's not real. UM. So

0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, some of these oils have been studied to

0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:49.080
<v Speaker 1>a certain degree. UM. And I like the way that

0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Julia puts this studied enough to confirm or strongly suggests

0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:58.480
<v Speaker 1>a positive association between oil and a health outcome. But

0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:03.320
<v Speaker 1>it's tough because the and we'll get to the f

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:06.319
<v Speaker 1>D A part. But all these plants are different. And

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:09.399
<v Speaker 1>and it's when you're talking about these scientific studies, it's

0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:15.040
<v Speaker 1>that's all built on consistency of the product that you're testing. Yeah,

0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 1>and because these are plants, it's it's tough. But where

0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:19.919
<v Speaker 1>it depends on where the plant grows and what month

0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:22.920
<v Speaker 1>you pick it, and how it was distilled. You know,

0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:29.319
<v Speaker 1>there's so many X factors. Yeah, that that kind of

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:35.000
<v Speaker 1>confounds things, right, it does. And I mean apparently, depending

0:42:35.040 --> 0:42:38.480
<v Speaker 1>on the time of day, UM, the plant might be

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:42.920
<v Speaker 1>producing different levels or types of of essential oil. And

0:42:43.000 --> 0:42:46.839
<v Speaker 1>because no one has said this is the chemical compound

0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:53.320
<v Speaker 1>of or the chemical recipe of UM, lavender essential oil,

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:57.080
<v Speaker 1>because there's nothing like that. Then, even if you are

0:42:57.160 --> 0:43:00.479
<v Speaker 1>trying to apply science to studying essential oils, you don't

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:03.080
<v Speaker 1>know if you're studying the exact same thing that somebody

0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:06.400
<v Speaker 1>else is studying, who's getting results that you're having trouble replicating.

0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:10.880
<v Speaker 1>It's it's very um. It's definitely like the wild West

0:43:11.000 --> 0:43:13.680
<v Speaker 1>right now, like people are getting bit by rattlesnake's level

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:17.720
<v Speaker 1>wild West. Yeah, and it's you know, it's important because

0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:22.200
<v Speaker 1>it's not regulated by the FDA right now. Uh, it is.

0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:25.640
<v Speaker 1>It falls in that weird gray area between being a

0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:31.000
<v Speaker 1>pharmaceutical medicine and being a cosmetic and so they aren't

0:43:31.080 --> 0:43:34.000
<v Speaker 1>FDA regulated, so they don't have to go through that

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:39.840
<v Speaker 1>testing and approval process that medicines do, right, So technically

0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:42.680
<v Speaker 1>they can make vague claims like if you are an

0:43:42.760 --> 0:43:47.080
<v Speaker 1>essential oil producer, you could take some of these studies

0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:51.040
<v Speaker 1>that you found um that may not have been peer reviewed,

0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:54.200
<v Speaker 1>that may have had a very small sample size, UM,

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:58.120
<v Speaker 1>that may have been virtually made up, UM, but that

0:43:58.200 --> 0:44:02.359
<v Speaker 1>support your your claim. Let's say things like, um, you

0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:05.279
<v Speaker 1>know roman came meal is good for heart health or

0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:07.200
<v Speaker 1>something like that. You can put that on the label.

0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:12.240
<v Speaker 1>But if you say something like Roman came meal, UM

0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:17.600
<v Speaker 1>helps stave off heart disease, you'll you'll then you'll get

0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:19.800
<v Speaker 1>a letter from the FDA saying like, hey, you're making

0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:22.440
<v Speaker 1>health claims that you can't back up, that science certainly

0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 1>doesn't back up, and you need to stop. The problem

0:44:25.719 --> 0:44:28.479
<v Speaker 1>is there's a lot of companies out there making these

0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:32.279
<v Speaker 1>claims right now, UM all over the place, and a

0:44:32.320 --> 0:44:35.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of them come in the form of UM multi

0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:39.320
<v Speaker 1>level marketing or pyramid schemes like I think Young Living

0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:42.600
<v Speaker 1>is a really good example of that, where you can

0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:47.520
<v Speaker 1>find UM Young Living products in your neighbor's garage or

0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:52.200
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter or Instagram, and uh, not necessarily in a store.

0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:54.200
<v Speaker 1>And so it makes it very difficult because it's the

0:44:54.280 --> 0:44:56.520
<v Speaker 1>centralis it makes it difficult for the FDA to find

0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:58.200
<v Speaker 1>out about this stuff, and then even when they do,

0:44:58.600 --> 0:45:01.560
<v Speaker 1>they don't have a lot of record worse to UM

0:45:01.600 --> 0:45:04.680
<v Speaker 1>to stopping it, aside from sending threatening letters threatening you know,

0:45:04.800 --> 0:45:07.680
<v Speaker 1>legal action. Yeah. And I think they were one of

0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:13.279
<v Speaker 1>the ones that markets to pregnant women specifically. Yeah. Yeah,

0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:15.120
<v Speaker 1>And this is where we get to like, this is

0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:19.320
<v Speaker 1>why it's actually problematic. Yeah, I mean, you know, any

0:45:19.360 --> 0:45:25.040
<v Speaker 1>time that you're UM. Anytime it's an unregulated substance, and

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:27.520
<v Speaker 1>they're saying, hey, use this on your baby, or use

0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:31.120
<v Speaker 1>this if you're pregnant, and there's been so little peer

0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:35.000
<v Speaker 1>reviewed research, then that's when it can get a little

0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:38.719
<v Speaker 1>bit dodgy, because there is very little research on how

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:44.680
<v Speaker 1>these oils should be used at all on kids and babies. Right.

0:45:44.719 --> 0:45:46.799
<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, I mean there's UM a

0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:52.840
<v Speaker 1>couple of of companies UM. Let's see Young Living. UM

0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:55.239
<v Speaker 1>has a like a series of essential oils that they

0:45:55.280 --> 0:45:59.520
<v Speaker 1>recommend for different stages of pregnancy. Hopewell has a whole

0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:04.440
<v Speaker 1>baby art for UM for your child to use for

0:46:04.520 --> 0:46:08.320
<v Speaker 1>things like teething or um ear infections, that kind of stuff.

0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:10.360
<v Speaker 1>These are all the such A oils and the problem

0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:13.600
<v Speaker 1>is some essential oils have been shown to actually potentially

0:46:13.640 --> 0:46:17.840
<v Speaker 1>be harmful UM for women, for pregnant women, Like there's

0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:22.920
<v Speaker 1>a whole class of essential oils that are UM that

0:46:22.960 --> 0:46:26.000
<v Speaker 1>can produce sudden and heavy menstruation, which is not what

0:46:26.080 --> 0:46:28.880
<v Speaker 1>you want to do when you're pregnant. So those oils

0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 1>should not be marketed towards pregnant women who should not

0:46:32.080 --> 0:46:34.840
<v Speaker 1>be using them, Like Rosemary is a really good example

0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:37.640
<v Speaker 1>of that. It's actually used as an aborta fashion in

0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:41.759
<v Speaker 1>Brazil and traditional medicine in Brazil because it can bring

0:46:41.840 --> 0:46:46.399
<v Speaker 1>on heavy sudden menstruation. UM So there's there's a lot

0:46:46.440 --> 0:46:50.960
<v Speaker 1>of reasons not to use these things, depending on your situation,

0:46:51.239 --> 0:46:54.239
<v Speaker 1>who you are. And the problem is is not not

0:46:54.360 --> 0:46:58.720
<v Speaker 1>only that kind of marketing is being avoided, they're actually

0:46:58.800 --> 0:47:03.319
<v Speaker 1>being aggressively mark getting toward women without proven results, but

0:47:03.400 --> 0:47:07.880
<v Speaker 1>also without being proven as safe because they skate, you know,

0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:13.120
<v Speaker 1>the the edges around f DA regulation. Yeah, or that.

0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:15.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, there may be like one study that is

0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:19.920
<v Speaker 1>sort of cherry picked and overstated. Um, I know that

0:47:20.080 --> 0:47:22.560
<v Speaker 1>in this article, it's mentioned a two thousand eight study

0:47:22.560 --> 0:47:26.480
<v Speaker 1>about lemon oil, uh and the effects on mood. And

0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:29.399
<v Speaker 1>in that study, they you know, the subjects did say

0:47:29.440 --> 0:47:33.120
<v Speaker 1>that their mood improved. But then the scientists were like, well,

0:47:33.320 --> 0:47:37.880
<v Speaker 1>your actual biological markers UM on stress and mood isn't

0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:41.279
<v Speaker 1>really changing. So is it the placebo effect that's going

0:47:41.360 --> 0:47:45.760
<v Speaker 1>on here? Which I mean the yeah, and that's that's fine.

0:47:45.760 --> 0:47:49.360
<v Speaker 1>The placebo effect is fine, Chuck. It's just that, um,

0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:52.560
<v Speaker 1>if you're not treating something else, or you're not you're

0:47:52.600 --> 0:47:55.200
<v Speaker 1>not using something else to actually treat a problem, like

0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:58.520
<v Speaker 1>lemon oil improving your mood, that's who cares. But if

0:47:58.520 --> 0:48:01.680
<v Speaker 1>you're if you're using something that's actually harmful, then that

0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:04.600
<v Speaker 1>that is problematic. And and what you were just talking

0:48:04.680 --> 0:48:07.840
<v Speaker 1>about also about how you could just cherry pick a study.

0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:10.320
<v Speaker 1>That's essentially what we were doing towards the beginning of

0:48:10.360 --> 0:48:12.800
<v Speaker 1>this podcast when we were saying, there are some studies

0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:15.560
<v Speaker 1>that have shown that it's you know, these definitely do

0:48:15.719 --> 0:48:19.759
<v Speaker 1>have anti microbial and anti fungal properties, so maybe we'll

0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:23.560
<v Speaker 1>end up seeing them as like you know, aerosolized disinfectants

0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:27.080
<v Speaker 1>spray in the future. That's really close to what some

0:48:27.200 --> 0:48:29.719
<v Speaker 1>of these companies are doing. But instead these companies are

0:48:29.719 --> 0:48:31.880
<v Speaker 1>actually selling these things and saying here, drink this or

0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:35.560
<v Speaker 1>take this or use this um based on these cherry

0:48:35.560 --> 0:48:39.239
<v Speaker 1>pick studies. Yeah, and I know the company Tera T

0:48:39.360 --> 0:48:42.759
<v Speaker 1>E A T E r R A UM. They've come

0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:45.320
<v Speaker 1>under fire. They're one of the giants of the industry.

0:48:46.000 --> 0:48:48.080
<v Speaker 1>In two thousand fourteen, they got a big warning from

0:48:48.120 --> 0:48:51.280
<v Speaker 1>the f d A about crossing that line into making

0:48:51.560 --> 0:48:55.120
<v Speaker 1>medical claims. And they're like, you know, you're you're basically

0:48:55.920 --> 0:49:00.040
<v Speaker 1>touting yourself as a as a pharmaceutical um and you

0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:04.560
<v Speaker 1>you're not bal Yeah. So so a really good example

0:49:04.600 --> 0:49:09.080
<v Speaker 1>of this is UM some some essential oils. There are

0:49:09.120 --> 0:49:11.480
<v Speaker 1>studies out there that have shown that they may have

0:49:12.080 --> 0:49:16.800
<v Speaker 1>anti viral properties, right like how clove oil has anti

0:49:16.960 --> 0:49:21.840
<v Speaker 1>bacterial and antifungal properties. Some some essential oils are showing

0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:26.120
<v Speaker 1>the possibility of being anti viral as well. So then

0:49:26.160 --> 0:49:28.719
<v Speaker 1>those essential oils will be taken by a company like

0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Young Living or um Doughtera and marketed as a cure

0:49:35.160 --> 0:49:39.480
<v Speaker 1>for ebola or coronavirus. That's a big problem. That's a

0:49:39.600 --> 0:49:43.800
<v Speaker 1>huge leap that's totally unfounded, and that people really should

0:49:43.840 --> 0:49:47.600
<v Speaker 1>not be using rather than say seeking medical attention, because

0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:50.919
<v Speaker 1>you have to. You have to assume that somebody who

0:49:51.000 --> 0:49:55.799
<v Speaker 1>is turning to essential oils to cure their ebola is

0:49:55.920 --> 0:49:59.040
<v Speaker 1>probably doing so because they don't want to to use

0:49:59.120 --> 0:50:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Western medicine. In the problem is is western medicine is

0:50:02.719 --> 0:50:05.880
<v Speaker 1>one of the few, if only courses of treatment that

0:50:05.920 --> 0:50:07.920
<v Speaker 1>has been shown to be able to take on a

0:50:08.040 --> 0:50:12.040
<v Speaker 1>botla um and certainly not something like clove oil. So

0:50:12.080 --> 0:50:14.080
<v Speaker 1>that's really again, I don't know if I'm getting this

0:50:14.120 --> 0:50:19.080
<v Speaker 1>across or not. That's problematic. Same with UM using marketing

0:50:19.840 --> 0:50:22.839
<v Speaker 1>essential oils to cure things like and again we're using

0:50:22.840 --> 0:50:29.160
<v Speaker 1>the word cure here, Parkinson's disease, autism, diabetes, hypertension, cancer, insomnia,

0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:35.560
<v Speaker 1>maybe insomnia, heart disease, PTSD, dementia, MS, UH, tetanus. All

0:50:35.640 --> 0:50:38.920
<v Speaker 1>these things have been marketed to be curable by certain

0:50:39.000 --> 0:50:41.680
<v Speaker 1>kinds or combinations of essential oil, and there's just not

0:50:41.960 --> 0:50:44.320
<v Speaker 1>science to fully back that up or even come close

0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:47.960
<v Speaker 1>to backing that up right now, right, And but that's

0:50:48.000 --> 0:50:50.280
<v Speaker 1>not to say that you can't use certain essential oils

0:50:50.280 --> 0:50:53.880
<v Speaker 1>to help with UH nausea because of your cancer treatments

0:50:53.960 --> 0:50:57.239
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. Yeah, Or apparently lavender also is

0:50:57.280 --> 0:51:02.880
<v Speaker 1>good with UM helping curtail UM agitation and aggression in

0:51:03.040 --> 0:51:06.760
<v Speaker 1>dementia patients, which is great because those are really tough

0:51:06.800 --> 0:51:10.120
<v Speaker 1>to treat UM pharmaceutically. So there is stuff that it

0:51:10.160 --> 0:51:13.239
<v Speaker 1>can do. It's just it can't cure a bowla like,

0:51:13.320 --> 0:51:16.000
<v Speaker 1>stop and think for a second. It can't clove oil

0:51:16.040 --> 0:51:18.359
<v Speaker 1>can't cure a bowl. I'm sorry. Maybe if you take

0:51:19.560 --> 0:51:21.839
<v Speaker 1>a bowl of virus and put in a peatree dish

0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:24.359
<v Speaker 1>and put a drop of clove oil on it. Then, yes,

0:51:24.600 --> 0:51:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I would not bet you a single scent that that

0:51:27.120 --> 0:51:30.520
<v Speaker 1>that clove oil wouldn't kill the bowl of IRUs. I'm sure,

0:51:30.880 --> 0:51:34.400
<v Speaker 1>but that's not how our bodies work inside. So stop

0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:36.760
<v Speaker 1>and think for a second. If you actually are walking

0:51:36.800 --> 0:51:40.759
<v Speaker 1>around believing that clove oil cures a bowla stop for

0:51:40.800 --> 0:51:44.480
<v Speaker 1>a second and just do me that favor. Just stop,

0:51:45.719 --> 0:51:48.520
<v Speaker 1>that's what you're saying. Just stop and think. Don't forget.

0:51:48.520 --> 0:51:51.600
<v Speaker 1>The second part is very important. Oh see, I usually

0:51:51.640 --> 0:51:56.360
<v Speaker 1>just stop. That's not good. Thank you for letting me

0:51:56.400 --> 0:52:00.400
<v Speaker 1>go off there, chump. Regardless, this is a big industry

0:52:00.600 --> 0:52:04.760
<v Speaker 1>and the market is is booming and growing. It's expected

0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:08.520
<v Speaker 1>to reach seven point three billion uh in just the

0:52:08.560 --> 0:52:12.640
<v Speaker 1>next three or four years. And that's up from about

0:52:12.680 --> 0:52:15.439
<v Speaker 1>four and a half billion just last year in two

0:52:15.440 --> 0:52:24.080
<v Speaker 1>thousand nineteen. And they're looking by uh fourteen billion dollar industry. Yeah,

0:52:25.000 --> 0:52:29.919
<v Speaker 1>big money. It is big money. So you got anything else?

0:52:30.560 --> 0:52:33.319
<v Speaker 1>I got nothing else. I've said my piece too. So

0:52:33.920 --> 0:52:36.719
<v Speaker 1>since we don't have anything else about essential oils, everybody,

0:52:37.040 --> 0:52:42.960
<v Speaker 1>it's time, of course for listener mail. I'm gonna call

0:52:43.000 --> 0:52:46.839
<v Speaker 1>this fellow bruck sist. Hey, guys, just listen to your

0:52:46.840 --> 0:52:50.200
<v Speaker 1>episode about brucks is. Um, I'm myself grind teeth like

0:52:50.239 --> 0:52:53.359
<v Speaker 1>a champ. But I got really excited when I heard

0:52:53.400 --> 0:52:55.880
<v Speaker 1>that Chuck and I have the same mouth. I just

0:52:55.920 --> 0:52:58.000
<v Speaker 1>went to the Orthodon us in the list of atrocities

0:52:58.000 --> 0:53:01.839
<v Speaker 1>inside my mouth could take up a stuff episode. So, Chuck,

0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:03.759
<v Speaker 1>I feel your pain. I have a cross by a

0:53:03.800 --> 0:53:06.560
<v Speaker 1>weird underbite. I feel like my lower job belongs in

0:53:06.560 --> 0:53:08.920
<v Speaker 1>a different mouth, just like you. I left the orthod

0:53:08.920 --> 0:53:11.880
<v Speaker 1>honest feeling like a freak of nature. Uh, And hearing

0:53:12.040 --> 0:53:14.200
<v Speaker 1>that one of my all time favorite personalities has the

0:53:14.239 --> 0:53:18.600
<v Speaker 1>exact same diagnosis made me feel less pitiful. Eventually, I'll

0:53:18.600 --> 0:53:21.719
<v Speaker 1>have that horrible jaw breaking surgery and the plan was

0:53:21.800 --> 0:53:24.960
<v Speaker 1>to recover with cheeseburger smoothies and stuff. You should know, Marathon.

0:53:25.480 --> 0:53:28.279
<v Speaker 1>Now it'll mean a whole lot more. And that is

0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:33.840
<v Speaker 1>from Erica. Mccaren's from Memphis, Tennessee. And Erica with my

0:53:33.960 --> 0:53:37.320
<v Speaker 1>family is from Memphis, so you might be my sister

0:53:37.360 --> 0:53:41.480
<v Speaker 1>from another mother. That's right, that's great, that's a good one.

0:53:41.520 --> 0:53:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Thanks a lot, Erica. I'm glad Chuck could make you

0:53:43.840 --> 0:53:46.399
<v Speaker 1>feel a little better about things, because that's what Chuck

0:53:46.440 --> 0:53:51.160
<v Speaker 1>does best. Huh. Who's gonna make me feel better me okay?

0:53:51.440 --> 0:53:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Or one of Emily's rooms. Phrase will help too. You

0:53:55.480 --> 0:53:57.120
<v Speaker 1>need to get those things out of the bathroom and

0:53:57.120 --> 0:54:00.839
<v Speaker 1>get them more involved into your life, Chuck. They're dude,

0:54:00.880 --> 0:54:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm constantly being slathered in tinctured and poulticed and dipity. Dude,

0:54:09.280 --> 0:54:12.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm a guinea pig. Nice. That's a pretty pleasant thing

0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:13.600
<v Speaker 1>to be a guinea pig for. I have to say

0:54:14.080 --> 0:54:15.799
<v Speaker 1>I agreed. Well, if you want to get in touch

0:54:15.800 --> 0:54:19.360
<v Speaker 1>with this like did Eric, that's right, Erica. I just

0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:23.360
<v Speaker 1>want to make sure you knew you still too. Thanks again, Erica.

0:54:23.680 --> 0:54:26.880
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