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Speaker 1: kebab skewer through the little what is it called the nipple, Sure,

425
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 1: the nip, the nip of the lemon all the way through,

426
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: and then that's just a little spout and you can

427
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: just squeeze the heck out of that thing. The only

428
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: thing that's coming out as the juice. I've never heard

429
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: of that food hack. That was a good one. You

430
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: know what else we could call that part of the

431
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 1: lemon is the lemons moose knuckle? What do you think

432
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: about that? That or the nip? Make your choice? What

433
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 1: else do we have? Well, Emily is a steam distiller.

434
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: You know, she's got a still and she uses uh

435
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: steam distillation process, which is very cool to see. So

436
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: with steam distillation is basically the same thing that you

437
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: would use to make um like gin. The still that

438
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: we talked about in Gin is basically the same thing

439
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: where you've got some hot water that's producing steam. The

440
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: steam rises up through like a great or a grid

441
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: or something. Um, it passes through that and then up

442
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: past these mashed up bits of whatever plant you're extracting

443
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: the essence from. And then that water vapor carries those

444
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: essential oils from the mashed up plant up, up, up,

445
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 1: and then down down, down again to another part of

446
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: the still where it's cooled and turns into a combination

447
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: of oil and water. And correct me if I'm getting

448
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: any of this wrong, because I've never actually seen this firsthand.

449
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: And then the oil and water goes into the final

450
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: little area with a spigot at the bottom for the

451
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: water and speak it at the top for the oil,

452
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: which will eventually start to float. It sounds about right, Okay, great,

453
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: And then I saw something else chuck that ties into

454
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: another episode of ours that I found very satisfying. Ultrasound

455
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: is used sometimes two premash the um or I guess

456
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: pre extract the essential oils. So you'll take say I

457
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: saw a demonstration using this ultrasound wand basically, and they've

458
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 1: had a cup of water and um like hops that

459
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 1: they mashed up some hops and they just stuck the

460
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: ultrasound wand in the water and made the water go crazy.

461
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: And what they found is that using a lot less

462
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 1: energy and even less plant material, you can extract more

463
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: essential oil because the cavitation that's produced by those sound

464
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: waves in the walls of the cells that hold the

465
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: essential oil in the plant, those cell walls get busted

466
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: open and so when more essential oil comes out, so

467
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 1: you can actually get more essential oil out of the plant.

468
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: And it takes lower temperature steam to look that essential

469
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,959
Speaker 1: oil out, so there's no thermal degradation. There's a lot

470
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: less thermal degradation, so you use less plant material, less

471
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: energy to get more essential oil out thanks to the

472
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: beauty of ultrasound. Now, before they did that demonstration, did

473
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: they say this wand has not been up anyone's but

474
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: of course that's how they start every single video in Germany.

475
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: Oh boy, that was the German company. Sure, and they're

476
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: into that kind of thing. Yeah, and Germans listen to this,

477
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: hey Germany, because we have a specifically tailored ad for Germany,

478
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: which I'm proud of punch about. Yeah, guten talk everyone.

479
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: Uh do you know what that means? Uh? It means

480
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: this wand has not been up anybody's But that's right,

481
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: guten talk. So the uses of essential oils um depending

482
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: on who you ask, and we'll get into the controversies

483
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: of how they're marketed, because there are some for sure. Um,

484
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: you know, if you read some sites, they'll say basically

485
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: they'll cure anything, or maybe not cure anything, because you

486
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: have to be careful of how you say things. But

487
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: they still say that. Yeah, it's bad. But some of

488
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: the legit uses of essential oils um. They can be

489
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: a preservative, they can be a flavoring agent. They are

490
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: certainly used as scent agents and all all kinds of things.

491
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: Um Emily makes her own insect repellent, mosquito repellent. Was

492
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: she used like citronella um jeez, I should know this

493
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: because I sprayed all over my body like every night.

494
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just strussed her that she's doing

495
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: it right. Uh, it can be a fungicidal, herbicidal, and

496
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: pesticidal agent for crops. And then there's a Roman therapy

497
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: which we'll get into in a few minutes as well. Yeah,

498
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: and all those will make a lot more sense than

499
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: a second once we talked about the actual evidence based

500
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: research into what um kind of biomedical properties essential oils have. Uh.

501
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: One of the things that we found like pretty early on,

502
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: and we should say, there's you know, hundreds of essential

503
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: oils that are used um for a Roman therapy or

504
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: for industrial purposes, and we really have studied just a

505
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: handful of them. The ones that we have studied have

506
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: turned up some pretty interesting results. Like we've found that

507
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:10,719
Speaker 1: very clearly some essential oils are antimicrobial and antifungal as well.

508
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: Some essential oils are both at the same time, Like

509
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: clove oil. If you're a bacteria or a fungus, you

510
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: do not want to be around clove oil because it

511
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: is going to mess you up pretty bad, worse than

512
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: than Rocky on Draco. Eventually. Yeah, Tea tree oil is

513
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: something we use a lot in our house as well,

514
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: UM to like dry out pimple, let's say, or to

515
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: heal something, uh you know, uh, something like on your skin.

516
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: It's very good for skin treatments. Uh what else here? UM?

517
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: I mean? And we should mention to the reason people

518
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: are turning to these is because there's a big movement

519
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: UM and there always has been, but there's seems like

520
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: it's really gained steam in the last decade of people

521
00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: trying to find uh natural alternatives to UM synthetic treatments. Sure,

522
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: which is laudable and commendable UM as long as the

523
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: science backs it up. And part of the science also

524
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: too is showing that it's not actually harmful, which we'll

525
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: talk about two. But one of the things that they're

526
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: figuring out about essential oil, and they are scientists, I

527
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: should say, is that because they have antifungal properties and

528
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: anti microbial properties, UM, and because those properties survive being vaporized,

529
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: that you could use this stuff as a spray for

530
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: a cleaner conceivably. And that's not to say like just

531
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: stop using any other cleaner and just use clove oil,

532
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: although we use clove oil a lot to disinfect things.

533
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: We use lavender oil to disinfect things. So I don't know,

534
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: maybe do what you want. But um, we're probably going

535
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: to start seeing more essential oils in cleaning products than

536
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: we do even now, and they're starting to be all

537
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: over the place. Yeah, I mean, the air based disinfectant

538
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: is pretty interesting. We use um, you know, Emily makes

539
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: room sprays, and those I don't think are so much

540
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: for the disinfectant as just a good, you know, scent

541
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: based poop cover up. Yeah. Oh, I hadn't thought about that.

542
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: I was just using it to make the room exponentially

543
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: more pleasant. Yeah, but they're good to have in the bathroom,

544
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, what do you mean empty poop?

545
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: I got you. Another cool thing is is there is, uh,

546
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: increasingly there is drug resistance among infectious microorganisms, and so

547
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: that is opened up the doors for more research into

548
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:42,719
Speaker 1: the anti pathogenic properties of essential oils because they're saying, like, hey,

549
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: maybe some of this stuff can be replaced these synthetic

550
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: compounds with these natural compounds. So they're so they're talking

551
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: about MERSA here, right. So, like one of the problems

552
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: with Mercy's that it's resistant to the drugs. We have

553
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: so even if you even if even if you're like

554
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's all natural or the most

555
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: horrid industrial compound we've ever come up with, kill the

556
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: mersa because it can kill us and we can't treat it. Um.

557
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: They're finding that the essential oil has properties that mersa

558
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: can't UM develop our resistance too. So not only can

559
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: I kill mersa, we would expect that Mercy is not

560
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 1: eventually going to evolve to be resistant to these essential

561
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: oils as well. Yeah, and um, I mean maybe now

562
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: would be a good time to take that next break

563
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: because we were going to dive into a roman therapy

564
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: and that's the one area, like you said, they've done uh,

565
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say a lot, but they're doing more and

566
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: more studies on a handful of essential oils in their

567
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 1: and their uses. But aroma therapy is the one area

568
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: where they still have not done a ton of studies.

569
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 1: And that's probably the most controversial area of essential oils,

570
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't you say it is for sure? And before we

571
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: take a break, I do want to say we're talking

572
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: about individual studies that are basically the first apps in

573
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: a scientific understanding of the properties the biomedical properties of

574
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: essential oils. So it's all like g whiz and everything.

575
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: But it's not. It's not, it's not it's not settled

576
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: by any any stretch of the imagination. We're still just

577
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: beginning to investigate this stuff, so bear that in mind

578
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: as well. Alright, Chuck, we're back. It's right to talk

579
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: about aroma therapy and um, this is when you get

580
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: into how the different applications for essential oils. Um there

581
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: and Emily told me to make sure I mentioned that

582
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: there is, uh, there are people out there that are

583
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: recommending people actually ingest essential oils more and more, and

584
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,959
Speaker 1: she's saying, don't do that. That sounds a lot like

585
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: injecting bleach or um cleaner to combat viruses. That's not

586
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: that's not how these work. Yeah, she's saying that there

587
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: are people out there recommending that you literally ingest this stuff.

588
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: And she's saying, don't just don't do that. M much. Yeah,

589
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: it's much much better in a tincture maybe, or a

590
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: topical thing, or in this case, we're talking about a

591
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: Roman therapy, which is breathing stuff in either through your

592
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: skin or into your mouth and the lungs. Yeah, but

593
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 1: either way, apparently, however, you ingest it like that through

594
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: your lungs or your nose or mouth, um, your your

595
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: old factory center is initiated and it starts doing all

596
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: sorts of different things depending on what the what volatile

597
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: organic compounds are hitting it right. And when I found

598
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: that was really good. Example my favorite smell of all

599
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: time lavender and lavender through some studies, isn't it great?

600
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 1: Through some studies, lavender has been shown to um prevents

601
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: serotonin reuptake. They they've shown what kind of neuro neurochemical

602
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 1: mechanisms lavender affects our brains through, and one of them

603
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: is it prevents serotonin transporters from doing their job. Once

604
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: the serotonin transporter gets ahold of like a serotonin molecule,

605
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: that thing gets taken out of your brain and you're

606
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 1: no longer feeling your mood from that particular molecule serotonin. Well,

607
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: lavender or specifically I think laven dual, which is a

608
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: turpin from lavender, prevents the serotonin from taking up or

609
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: the serotonin transporter from taking up that serotonin. This step one,

610
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: and then another one is that it's an n d M,

611
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 1: a receptor antagonist, which puts it in the same class

612
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: of chemicals, uh that dissociative chemicals as ketamine. So it does.

613
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: They they've actually studied lavender now closely enough to say

614
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: this is how it affects your brain, and it definitely

615
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: does affect your brain. So there is something to the

616
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: idea that aroma therapy does have therapeutic effects, and lavender

617
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: in particular. Now we understand how now do you mean, uh,

618
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: S s R I potential like a natural S s

619
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: R I. I don't know, because I think part of

620
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: the other thing about essential oils too, is like the

621
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: impact and the effects that they have on us are

622
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: pronounced enough that we could study them and see them.

623
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,479
Speaker 1: But it doesn't necessarily mean we're going to be able

624
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: to just take lavender pills as like a mood enhancer

625
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: or to combat depression. There it's just not pronounced enough

626
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 1: for that. It could conceivably open a door to some

627
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: some inquiry or some investigation that could lead to new

628
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: synthetic compounds based on what we find it. Just taking

629
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: like lavender is not going to cure your depression from

630
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: from anything I've seen, Yeah, And I think I mean

631
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: it depends on who you're talking to. Some people might

632
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: advocate for complete replacement of you know, a practice or

633
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: of TCM. Let's say, might be like, no, man, not

634
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: don't take any any of these uh um quote unquote

635
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: Western medicines, Like this is the only stuff that you

636
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: need to be taking. But other people will say, hey,

637
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: you can augment uh with things like lavender or eucalyptus

638
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: or cedar wood and stuff like that. I have no

639
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: problem with augmenting. I have no problem with traditional medicine

640
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: of any culture. As long as it works, it's not

641
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: harmful to the user, and it's not harmful to other

642
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: sentient beings or the planet. Those are really my only qualifications.

643
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: As long as it works, just go for it. But

644
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 1: just make sure that those those caveats are are checked

645
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: or else it's harmful. Yeah. Well, let's let's talk about

646
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: some of these uh purported benefits of these various oils.

647
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 1: We talked about lavender. Of course, relaxation. Sleep is where

648
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna see a lot of it, like springing on

649
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: your pillow. Um. Eucalyptus is a big one for congestion,

650
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: for burns, for cold sores, arthritis. Even rose is a

651
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: big one for anxiety. UH and a lot of these

652
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: two have to do with skin things like eczema or

653
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: dan druff or rosatia and stuff like that, and all

654
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: of these you should say, these are all ones that

655
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: like the essential oil industry says that not not that

656
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: science necessarily backs up right. Well, that's what I meant

657
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: by purported health benefits. Okay, gotcha, I got you. Yeah,

658
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: I didn't pick up on that. Uh. Or if you play,

659
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: uh the video game dead Red Redemption, you can spend

660
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: a lot of your time gathering herbs because it's the

661
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: Old West. What do you do with those herbs? You

662
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: use them in craft to print things with them to

663
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: help yourself. Oh that's do they have X factor in it?

664
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: And I got a bit by a rattlesnake the other

665
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 1: day in the game, and I said, you've you've been poisoned.

666
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: You might want to go find some medicinal herbs and

667
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: can eat them. Did you survive? I survived And I

668
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: shot that snake too. You shot the snake. That's gotta

669
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: be tough to shoot a snake. Yeah, Uh, they are

670
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: tough to hit, yes, unless you pull out the old shotgun. Oh,

671
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: well there you go. Yeah, it's funny. Someone who loves

672
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: animals and hates hunting as much as I do. Really

673
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: gets a kick out of hunting in this game. Oh,

674
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,919
Speaker 1: it's different. I don't think it counts. It's not real

675
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: as far as we know, it's not real. UM. So

676
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: you know, some of these oils have been studied to

677
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: a certain degree. UM. And I like the way that

678
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: Julia puts this studied enough to confirm or strongly suggests

679
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: a positive association between oil and a health outcome. But

680
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: it's tough because the and we'll get to the f

681
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: D A part. But all these plants are different. And

682
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 1: and it's when you're talking about these scientific studies, it's

683
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: that's all built on consistency of the product that you're testing. Yeah,

684
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: and because these are plants, it's it's tough. But where

685
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,919
Speaker 1: it depends on where the plant grows and what month

686
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: you pick it, and how it was distilled. You know,

687
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: there's so many X factors. Yeah, that that kind of

688
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: confounds things, right, it does. And I mean apparently, depending

689
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: on the time of day, UM, the plant might be

690
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: producing different levels or types of of essential oil. And

691
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: because no one has said this is the chemical compound

692
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 1: of or the chemical recipe of UM, lavender essential oil,

693
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: because there's nothing like that. Then, even if you are

694
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,479
Speaker 1: trying to apply science to studying essential oils, you don't

695
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: know if you're studying the exact same thing that somebody

696
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: else is studying, who's getting results that you're having trouble replicating.

697
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: It's it's very um. It's definitely like the wild West

698
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: right now, like people are getting bit by rattlesnake's level

699
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 1: wild West. Yeah, and it's you know, it's important because

700
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: it's not regulated by the FDA right now. Uh, it is.

701
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: It falls in that weird gray area between being a

702
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: pharmaceutical medicine and being a cosmetic and so they aren't

703
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: FDA regulated, so they don't have to go through that

704
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: testing and approval process that medicines do, right, So technically

705
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: they can make vague claims like if you are an

706
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: essential oil producer, you could take some of these studies

707
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: that you found um that may not have been peer reviewed,

708
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: that may have had a very small sample size, UM,

709
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: that may have been virtually made up, UM, but that

710
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 1: support your your claim. Let's say things like, um, you

711
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: know roman came meal is good for heart health or

712
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: something like that. You can put that on the label.

713
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 1: But if you say something like Roman came meal, UM

714
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: helps stave off heart disease, you'll you'll then you'll get

715
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 1: a letter from the FDA saying like, hey, you're making

716
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: health claims that you can't back up, that science certainly

717
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: doesn't back up, and you need to stop. The problem

718
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,479
Speaker 1: is there's a lot of companies out there making these

719
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: claims right now, UM all over the place, and a

720
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: lot of them come in the form of UM multi

721
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 1: level marketing or pyramid schemes like I think Young Living

722
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: is a really good example of that, where you can

723
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: find UM Young Living products in your neighbor's garage or

724
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: on Twitter or Instagram, and uh, not necessarily in a store.

725
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: And so it makes it very difficult because it's the

726
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: centralis it makes it difficult for the FDA to find

727
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: out about this stuff, and then even when they do,

728
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: they don't have a lot of record worse to UM

729
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: to stopping it, aside from sending threatening letters threatening you know,

730
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: legal action. Yeah. And I think they were one of

731
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: the ones that markets to pregnant women specifically. Yeah. Yeah,

732
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: And this is where we get to like, this is

733
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 1: why it's actually problematic. Yeah, I mean, you know, any

734
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: time that you're UM. Anytime it's an unregulated substance, and

735
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: they're saying, hey, use this on your baby, or use

736
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: this if you're pregnant, and there's been so little peer

737
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: reviewed research, then that's when it can get a little

738
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: bit dodgy, because there is very little research on how

739
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: these oils should be used at all on kids and babies. Right.

740
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I mean there's UM a

741
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: couple of of companies UM. Let's see Young Living. UM

742
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: has a like a series of essential oils that they

743
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: recommend for different stages of pregnancy. Hopewell has a whole

744
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: baby art for UM for your child to use for

745
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 1: things like teething or um ear infections, that kind of stuff.

746
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: These are all the such A oils and the problem

747
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: is some essential oils have been shown to actually potentially

748
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: be harmful UM for women, for pregnant women, Like there's

749
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: a whole class of essential oils that are UM that

750
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: can produce sudden and heavy menstruation, which is not what

751
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: you want to do when you're pregnant. So those oils

752
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: should not be marketed towards pregnant women who should not

753
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: be using them, Like Rosemary is a really good example

754
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: of that. It's actually used as an aborta fashion in

755
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: Brazil and traditional medicine in Brazil because it can bring

756
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 1: on heavy sudden menstruation. UM So there's there's a lot

757
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: of reasons not to use these things, depending on your situation,

758
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: who you are. And the problem is is not not

759
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 1: only that kind of marketing is being avoided, they're actually

760
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: being aggressively mark getting toward women without proven results, but

761
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: also without being proven as safe because they skate, you know,

762
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: the the edges around f DA regulation. Yeah, or that.

763
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: You know, there may be like one study that is

764
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: sort of cherry picked and overstated. Um, I know that

765
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: in this article, it's mentioned a two thousand eight study

766
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: about lemon oil, uh and the effects on mood. And

767
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 1: in that study, they you know, the subjects did say

768
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: that their mood improved. But then the scientists were like, well,

769
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: your actual biological markers UM on stress and mood isn't

770
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: really changing. So is it the placebo effect that's going

771
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 1: on here? Which I mean the yeah, and that's that's fine.

772
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: The placebo effect is fine, Chuck. It's just that, um,

773
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: if you're not treating something else, or you're not you're

774
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: not using something else to actually treat a problem, like

775
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: lemon oil improving your mood, that's who cares. But if

776
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: you're if you're using something that's actually harmful, then that

777
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: that is problematic. And and what you were just talking

778
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: about also about how you could just cherry pick a study.

779
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 1: That's essentially what we were doing towards the beginning of

780
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 1: this podcast when we were saying, there are some studies

781
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: that have shown that it's you know, these definitely do

782
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: have anti microbial and anti fungal properties, so maybe we'll

783
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: end up seeing them as like you know, aerosolized disinfectants

784
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: spray in the future. That's really close to what some

785
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: of these companies are doing. But instead these companies are

786
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: actually selling these things and saying here, drink this or

787
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: take this or use this um based on these cherry

788
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: pick studies. Yeah, and I know the company Tera T

789
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: E A T E r R A UM. They've come

790
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 1: under fire. They're one of the giants of the industry.

791
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: In two thousand fourteen, they got a big warning from

792
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 1: the f d A about crossing that line into making

793
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: medical claims. And they're like, you know, you're you're basically

794
00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 1: touting yourself as a as a pharmaceutical um and you

795
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: you're not bal Yeah. So so a really good example

796
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: of this is UM some some essential oils. There are

797
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: studies out there that have shown that they may have

798
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: anti viral properties, right like how clove oil has anti

799
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: bacterial and antifungal properties. Some some essential oils are showing

800
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: the possibility of being anti viral as well. So then

801
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: those essential oils will be taken by a company like

802
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: Young Living or um Doughtera and marketed as a cure

803
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: for ebola or coronavirus. That's a big problem. That's a

804
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 1: huge leap that's totally unfounded, and that people really should

805
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: not be using rather than say seeking medical attention, because

806
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,919
Speaker 1: you have to. You have to assume that somebody who

807
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: is turning to essential oils to cure their ebola is

808
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: probably doing so because they don't want to to use

809
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: Western medicine. In the problem is is western medicine is

810
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: one of the few, if only courses of treatment that

811
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: has been shown to be able to take on a

812
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: botla um and certainly not something like clove oil. So

813
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: that's really again, I don't know if I'm getting this

814
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: across or not. That's problematic. Same with UM using marketing

815
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 1: essential oils to cure things like and again we're using

816
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: the word cure here, Parkinson's disease, autism, diabetes, hypertension, cancer, insomnia,

817
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: maybe insomnia, heart disease, PTSD, dementia, MS, UH, tetanus. All

818
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: these things have been marketed to be curable by certain

819
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: kinds or combinations of essential oil, and there's just not

820
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 1: science to fully back that up or even come close

821
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: to backing that up right now, right, And but that's

822
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 1: not to say that you can't use certain essential oils

823
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: to help with UH nausea because of your cancer treatments

824
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah, Or apparently lavender also is

825
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: good with UM helping curtail UM agitation and aggression in

826
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 1: dementia patients, which is great because those are really tough

827
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: to treat UM pharmaceutically. So there is stuff that it

828
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: can do. It's just it can't cure a bowla like,

829
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: stop and think for a second. It can't clove oil

830
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 1: can't cure a bowl. I'm sorry. Maybe if you take

831
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 1: a bowl of virus and put in a peatree dish

832
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 1: and put a drop of clove oil on it. Then, yes,

833
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: I would not bet you a single scent that that

834
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: that clove oil wouldn't kill the bowl of IRUs. I'm sure,

835
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: but that's not how our bodies work inside. So stop

836
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 1: and think for a second. If you actually are walking

837
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: around believing that clove oil cures a bowla stop for

838
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: a second and just do me that favor. Just stop,

839
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: that's what you're saying. Just stop and think. Don't forget.

840
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: The second part is very important. Oh see, I usually

841
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: just stop. That's not good. Thank you for letting me

842
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: go off there, chump. Regardless, this is a big industry

843
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 1: and the market is is booming and growing. It's expected

844
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: to reach seven point three billion uh in just the

845
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: next three or four years. And that's up from about

846
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,439
Speaker 1: four and a half billion just last year in two

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Speaker 1: thousand nineteen. And they're looking by uh fourteen billion dollar industry. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: big money. It is big money. So you got anything else?

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Speaker 1: I got nothing else. I've said my piece too. So

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Speaker 1: since we don't have anything else about essential oils, everybody,

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Speaker 1: it's time, of course for listener mail. I'm gonna call

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Speaker 1: this fellow bruck sist. Hey, guys, just listen to your

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Speaker 1: episode about brucks is. Um, I'm myself grind teeth like

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Speaker 1: a champ. But I got really excited when I heard

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Speaker 1: that Chuck and I have the same mouth. I just

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Speaker 1: went to the Orthodon us in the list of atrocities

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Speaker 1: inside my mouth could take up a stuff episode. So, Chuck,

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Speaker 1: I feel your pain. I have a cross by a

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Speaker 1: weird underbite. I feel like my lower job belongs in

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Speaker 1: a different mouth, just like you. I left the orthod

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Speaker 1: honest feeling like a freak of nature. Uh, And hearing

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Speaker 1: that one of my all time favorite personalities has the

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Speaker 1: exact same diagnosis made me feel less pitiful. Eventually, I'll

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Speaker 1: have that horrible jaw breaking surgery and the plan was

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Speaker 1: to recover with cheeseburger smoothies and stuff. You should know, Marathon.

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Speaker 1: Now it'll mean a whole lot more. And that is

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Speaker 1: from Erica. Mccaren's from Memphis, Tennessee. And Erica with my

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Speaker 1: family is from Memphis, so you might be my sister

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Speaker 1: from another mother. That's right, that's great, that's a good one.

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Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, Erica. I'm glad Chuck could make you

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Speaker 1: feel a little better about things, because that's what Chuck

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Speaker 1: does best. Huh. Who's gonna make me feel better me okay?

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Speaker 1: Or one of Emily's rooms. Phrase will help too. You

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Speaker 1: need to get those things out of the bathroom and

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Speaker 1: get them more involved into your life, Chuck. They're dude,

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Speaker 1: I'm constantly being slathered in tinctured and poulticed and dipity. Dude,

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Speaker 1: I'm a guinea pig. Nice. That's a pretty pleasant thing

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Speaker 1: to be a guinea pig for. I have to say

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Speaker 1: I agreed. Well, if you want to get in touch

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Speaker 1: with this like did Eric, that's right, Erica. I just

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Speaker 1: want to make sure you knew you still too. Thanks again, Erica.

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