WEBVTT - Draymond Returns To Warriors, The RFA Squeeze & Drafting The Worst NBA Nicknames

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, swirld, and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six. I'm Jay Skeith, back in the Classic Factory

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<v Speaker 1>Hello to everybody joining us on YouTube. Hit the like button,

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<v Speaker 1>subscribe podcast listeners, five star ratings and reviews. On today's show,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to take a look at the remaining free agents.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's left on the market.

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<v Speaker 3>Not a lot of guys, not a lot, not a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Intel and new sort of rumors around some of the

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<v Speaker 1>restricted freegin guys. We'll get into that. We'll also have

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<v Speaker 1>some fun by drafting the worst NBA nicknames of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll do five rounds of I guess crappy nicknames.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of bad nicknames. I know a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah there is, But I gotta know, did anything happen

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<v Speaker 1>while I was away in Croatia on vacation.

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<v Speaker 3>Any big news. You saw the Jani Broom salary dump.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you see that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yes, yeah, spot cleared for KCP on the Sixers.

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<v Speaker 3>That was their big move. That was six year that's

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<v Speaker 3>all they did. Okay, they made a couple of moves.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was that was fun to see you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we worked out timing wise for you after

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<v Speaker 1>you did that Friday Drop podcast. Yeah, and what tray

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<v Speaker 1>you said, like twenty twenty five minutes after you had

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<v Speaker 1>wrapped up, here comes the Lebron news perfect seventy six ers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're all.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, thanks Lebron.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was nice of them, and it was well

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<v Speaker 1>it was a sham's tweet, it was, but also some

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<v Speaker 1>other tweets exact that they had obviously choreographed.

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<v Speaker 3>He hasn't podcasted about it yet, though, has he no

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<v Speaker 3>think upset upset alert?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, crazy. That was very fun to find out over

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side of the world. It was weird.

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<v Speaker 1>One of those weird things where I'm like get the

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<v Speaker 1>news and I'm like, looking around, is anybody else reacting

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<v Speaker 1>here at the beach club I met they were all

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for nobody cared, I guess nobody was on their phone,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was excited to get your coverage, guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>you did a great job. Not really a ton to

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<v Speaker 1>add you guys already went through like how he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>fit offensively, can they hold up defensively, all the other things.

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<v Speaker 1>But I gotta say pumped as an East Coast guy

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<v Speaker 1>that on our side for those early start times. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fun. But man, that was a swerve. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a swarf. As you guys addressed and everybody's addressed, I

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<v Speaker 1>think him going to Philadelphia quite lower on the list

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<v Speaker 1>of the options because like you're like like all the

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<v Speaker 1>other ones felt like, I guess the best way to

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<v Speaker 1>put is like easier options, Like you could go to

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<v Speaker 1>Golden State and just golf with your buddy. Yeah, that'd

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<v Speaker 1>be sort of fun. Get the little Team USA match

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<v Speaker 1>up him and Curry again. You could just go to Miami,

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<v Speaker 1>let Yanna and Bam carry the defensive burden and you

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<v Speaker 1>sort of slot in there. You could obviously just go

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<v Speaker 1>back to Cleveland. It'd be like the lowest stakes of

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<v Speaker 1>all time. Really, I mean, it would be like just

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<v Speaker 1>the Swan song.

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<v Speaker 3>But said he goes Philly yeah, I mean he will. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>he wanted to sign with the Knicks, but the next

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<v Speaker 3>won the championship, so he's like, I'll do the next

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<v Speaker 3>best thing. I'll still live in New York and I'll

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<v Speaker 3>help break your curse for a team.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's gonna try and do here, uh, And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's gonna be fun. Obviously. It makes an

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<v Speaker 1>already exciting offseason even more exciting with all the movement

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<v Speaker 1>here in Philadelphia now suddenly as like, I guess a contender, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I keep forgetting Jill and Brown is on the Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 1>Soty six Ers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, I'm sure he loves that. Yeah, it's very, very weird.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll see if Lebron can do what no player's

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<v Speaker 1>ever done before and try and lead a fourth team,

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<v Speaker 1>uh to a fourth championship obviously four different franchises, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah like that. Yeah, that's got to be a part

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<v Speaker 1>of the thinking too, right, I guess as he chased

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<v Speaker 1>the ghosts of Michael.

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<v Speaker 3>Does that mean anything to you winning now? No, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's on different teams. Not to me, really, that means like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you've jumped to a lot of teams.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, it doesn't mean much to me either, when

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<v Speaker 4>we're all having this discussion in our chats, has there

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<v Speaker 4>been any guy who's done it with four teams? It's

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<v Speaker 4>not one of those things that just weighs on your

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<v Speaker 4>mind when it comes to sports really or basketball specifically.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's done it? To me?

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<v Speaker 4>As you slipped in there leads a fourth team? I

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<v Speaker 4>think that's important here. He's going to a team where

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<v Speaker 4>he's going to be looked at as a bit of

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<v Speaker 4>a leader instead of going with Steph Curry. Like Draymond

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<v Speaker 4>Green just sat on his podcast, I understand why it

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<v Speaker 4>didn't come to Golden State. Didn't want to be a

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<v Speaker 4>Kevin Durant. I agree with Draymond Green and his podcast

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<v Speaker 4>take and that part of it. And Philly just hasn't won.

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<v Speaker 4>So is he going to be the best player playing

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<v Speaker 4>with Jalen Brown and Tyr's Max and Joelmby debatable, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's at least it's a debate. That's a big part

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<v Speaker 4>of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to get your opinion finally before we move

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<v Speaker 1>on from Lebron because there's been a lot of that talk.

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<v Speaker 1>In his post to X He's said he was like

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<v Speaker 1>grappling with basketball mortality, here at the end of his

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<v Speaker 1>last season, the twenty five to twenty six campaign, and

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<v Speaker 1>he said, I thought I was done when the season ended.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you buy that at all?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, okay, I never.

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<v Speaker 3>Thought Lebron was retiring last season, literally never.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's just straight up lying.

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<v Speaker 3>He's I think it's called controlling the narrative when Lebron

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<v Speaker 3>does it.

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<v Speaker 4>You, Yeah, I don't buy that he thought he was done.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean when he stepped off the court, did he think,

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<v Speaker 4>oh man, this could be it, like for a minute,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe right, all right, right, depends on how you look

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<v Speaker 4>at it. But as far as the narrative goes, we

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<v Speaker 4>just alluded to it was just four tweets, Like he

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<v Speaker 4>didn't go all out a guy who we think will

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<v Speaker 4>enjoy his last year getting every single ovation in every

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<v Speaker 4>single arena, just four tweets. Well, you know, collabing with

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<v Speaker 4>tops or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>He did.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I got a brand deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he sold four hundred thousand cards instantly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he's also making a documentary. Yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 3>not the only time we're gonna hear about Lebron joining

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<v Speaker 3>the Sixers. I don't think that's true.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, yes, and yeah, maybe that's why I took twenty

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<v Speaker 4>seven days or whatever. It took a lot of docs

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<v Speaker 4>being shot. Yeah, yeah, footage.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's talk about Draymond Green. That was the big

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<v Speaker 1>news from yesterday. Draymond Green has agreed to return to

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<v Speaker 1>the Warriors on a one year, twenty seven point seven

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<v Speaker 1>million dollar deal. So Green turned down is basically identical

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<v Speaker 1>player option earlier this summer to help try and land Lebron. However,

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<v Speaker 1>after Lebron eventually decided to head to Philly, Draymond and

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<v Speaker 1>the Warriors moved forward on the new deal here. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people expected maybe he would

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<v Speaker 1>sign a multi year deal. So the eye opening part

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<v Speaker 1>is that it is just a one year deal here

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<v Speaker 1>for Draymond Green.

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<v Speaker 4>Your reactions to me, this just means it's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be a lot of Golden State this year, saying, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>where do we get our star? Like you said, it's

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<v Speaker 4>a one year option here, So they're gonna be waiting

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<v Speaker 4>until probably next year. They're gonna try throughout this season

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<v Speaker 4>to go get somebody. But it's a lot of rinse

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<v Speaker 4>repeat with this team. That's just what it is. They're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna have options to be able to trade to go

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<v Speaker 4>get a start to help him and Steph. Essentially, they

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<v Speaker 4>do have like a Kristaps Porsing is twenty million dollars contract,

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<v Speaker 4>Here you go Pelicans, Trey Murphy is he available?

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<v Speaker 2>Here you go.

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<v Speaker 4>Kristaps Porzing is plus draft picks, so they have options.

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<v Speaker 4>But really this is what it is. As you said,

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<v Speaker 4>one year, So it's him and Steph signed for one year.

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<v Speaker 4>They can hope that Jimmy Butler comes back. They can

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<v Speaker 4>hope that Draymond Green helps out Yaxel Londenborg, who's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be twenty four and look really good in summer league.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's that excitement. If Lebron comes and joins him,

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<v Speaker 4>this team could be good. But really it's just one

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<v Speaker 4>more year to me and hopefully for them they get

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<v Speaker 4>it during the season rather than next offseason.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's what it is to be.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they're running back a thirty seven win team

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<v Speaker 3>and they added a twenty four year old rookie. That's

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<v Speaker 3>not exciting if you're a Warriors fan, but it does

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<v Speaker 3>mean you're at least getting the band back together one

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<v Speaker 3>more time. I guess Steve Kerr has two years on

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<v Speaker 3>his deal. Steph Curry becomes extension eligible on August twenty ninth.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see what he decides to do. But they do

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<v Speaker 3>have Draymond Stephan Jimmy. He is still there for at

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<v Speaker 3>least another season. But the windows closed for the Warriors.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I don't care if they pull off a trade

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<v Speaker 3>for Trey Murphy, that would be awesome. He would be

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<v Speaker 3>a great help to them. That doesn't put them in

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<v Speaker 3>the conference in the conversation in the Western Conference for me,

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<v Speaker 3>the Warriors have missed the playoffs in four of the

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<v Speaker 3>last seven seasons. They've missed it in two of the

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<v Speaker 3>last four seasons because they keep having to go into

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<v Speaker 3>the play in. Their last real move to try and

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<v Speaker 3>be a championship contender was Jimmy Butler. Yeah, the team

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<v Speaker 3>looked good, yep, they were winning, and then Steph got

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<v Speaker 3>hurt in the playoffs. That season was over. They come

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<v Speaker 3>back next year. They're twenty five and nineteen. On January nineteenth,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty six, Jimmy Butler tears a ACL and that's

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the era for the Warriors, especially if

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<v Speaker 3>they're not going to be chipping in these future picks

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<v Speaker 3>that they obviously could trade if they want to. But

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<v Speaker 3>they're just eyeing a time when Steph Curry is no

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<v Speaker 3>longer going to be a Warrior. They've been doing that

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<v Speaker 3>for basically five seasons, looking ahead to when Steph is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be retired. That means he might play for

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<v Speaker 3>another team. I don't think it's likely, yeah, but it

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<v Speaker 3>definitely is interesting that he's going to be extension eligible.

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<v Speaker 3>If he doesn't sign it on August twenty ninth, people

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<v Speaker 3>will start going crazy on the fake trades with this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I mean they've already started. I mean, the whole

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<v Speaker 1>entire conversation after Lebron has gone to Philly is now

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<v Speaker 1>all eyes on Golden State and what's going on with

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<v Speaker 1>Curry and this idea of like, yeah, they failed him?

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<v Speaker 1>Have they failed him? Have they just been looking too

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<v Speaker 1>far ahead? Did they botch? It feels like the Warriors

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<v Speaker 1>front office did a lot of what I did in Croatia.

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<v Speaker 1>Just treadwater, Just treadwater and the Adriatic Sea. Baby, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Salty's buoyant helps you there. But that's like what they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing here, and it's sort of it's sad if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a Curry fan of the Warriors fan going this guy

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<v Speaker 1>still was at an elite level, maybe even still is

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<v Speaker 1>of course, and what have they done. They just seem

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<v Speaker 1>to strike out, miss out on every big name that's

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<v Speaker 1>possibly on the market, from like your lowry marketings to

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<v Speaker 1>your Giannises to obviously now even Lebron. But they're three

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<v Speaker 1>highest paid players, Curry, Jimmy and Draymond. They could all

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<v Speaker 1>enter free agency in twenty twenty seven, and then their

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<v Speaker 1>fourth highest player, Porzingis, that deals only guaranteed for three

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<v Speaker 1>million in twenty seven twenty eight, so there could be

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<v Speaker 1>a super hard reset here. But then they do other moves,

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<v Speaker 1>like even the Porzingis and the Horford of it all,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, well, what are you doing? You're not really

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<v Speaker 1>picking the lane and you're sort of just again treading

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<v Speaker 1>water is a way to put it. Yeah, so I frustrating.

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<v Speaker 4>It is odd to see Porzingis signed again when he

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't successful there, but he becomes one of those tradable

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<v Speaker 4>contracts at twenty million. It's a nice number if you

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<v Speaker 4>want to try and push forward with something around Steph Curry.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, you can go into next free agency with

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<v Speaker 4>all those guys coming off the books essentially and try

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<v Speaker 4>and get somebody. So yeah, August twenty ninth will be

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<v Speaker 4>interesting if he resigns. It'll also be interesting to see

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<v Speaker 4>how much he plays this season, Like does he go

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<v Speaker 4>all out and play eighty games, you know, seventy five

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<v Speaker 4>games whatever it is after only playing forty three games last.

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<v Speaker 2>Year, because he's really really good.

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<v Speaker 4>As our man Marcus Thompson pointed out on the Athletic

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<v Speaker 4>when Steph talked to him, after having limited number of

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<v Speaker 4>games that he plays, his next season is really really

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<v Speaker 4>good and so.

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<v Speaker 2>He only played half the year last year.

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<v Speaker 4>It'll be interesting to see if he's kind of slows

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<v Speaker 4>play it, slow plays it, and then we can see

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<v Speaker 4>what Jimmy Butler looks like in January February when he

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<v Speaker 4>comes back.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the issue too of their like whatever top seven

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<v Speaker 1>guys are like not going to be playing for a

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<v Speaker 1>majority of the season, and Jimmy Butler in moody, Yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Jimmy's really old, so how's he going to bounce back?

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<v Speaker 3>Like their top six paid players are all thirty five

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<v Speaker 3>in the year, it's not a surprise when these guys

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<v Speaker 3>miss fifteen to twenty games at a time. So I

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<v Speaker 3>get the Warriors a lot of credit for actually going

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<v Speaker 3>for Jimmy Butler. That was the one time they were

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<v Speaker 3>able to actually get the guy they were going after.

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<v Speaker 3>But they've struck out on Jalen Brown, Lebron Giannis Ad.

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<v Speaker 3>They could have won after Kawhi if they wanted this summer,

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<v Speaker 3>siakam Og, Paul George Lowry, Markinin they got Jimmy Butler.

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<v Speaker 3>He's old and he got hurt within a year of

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<v Speaker 3>them trading for him. So that's what happens when you

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<v Speaker 3>stack with older players. And the unfortunate way with the

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<v Speaker 3>way that the NBA salary cap works is like Curry

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<v Speaker 3>is just getting more and more expensive. He's still a

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<v Speaker 3>great player. He's not an MVP candidate right now. He's

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<v Speaker 3>not like a top five player, but he's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be paid like a top three player when it all

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<v Speaker 3>comes said and done. So you go and look at

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<v Speaker 3>the guys who ended up being lifers. Recently, Kobe's last

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<v Speaker 3>season on the Lakers, they won seventeen games. Dirk's last

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<v Speaker 3>season on the MAVs, they won thirty three games. When

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<v Speaker 3>you get to that stage, when you're that highly paid

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<v Speaker 3>but you're not quite at the level you were, it

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<v Speaker 3>becomes impossible to build a real team around you. So

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<v Speaker 3>if Steph Curry goes and signs like a sixty five

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<v Speaker 3>million dollar extension, it's just going to be a tribute

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<v Speaker 3>act until the end. And you know what, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd rather see Steph Curry win thirty eight games for

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<v Speaker 3>the Warriors than when forty five games playing for the

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<v Speaker 3>Charlotte Hornets next year.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's unlikely that they're able to support him with

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<v Speaker 4>a second player, but they do have the options.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, they have the options this summer. That's the thing

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<v Speaker 3>with the Warriors. They always have the options. They can

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<v Speaker 3>go after the same guy. So not only are they

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<v Speaker 3>running back at thirty seven win team, they're running back

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<v Speaker 3>Oh we're going to trade for the next big star

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<v Speaker 3>as well, do it?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, yeah, those guys that you mentioned. Yeah, it'll

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<v Speaker 4>all comes down to which guy are you giving up

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<v Speaker 4>and the draft picks and so yeah, we can get

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<v Speaker 4>into it. Jalen Brown was apparently available according to ESPN

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<v Speaker 4>that they were able to offer a trade for in February.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a rumor. So, yeah, there's lots of lots

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<v Speaker 2>of options here.

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<v Speaker 3>They said at the draft too, and the Warriors basically

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<v Speaker 3>said four first rounders. That's too much for us. And

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<v Speaker 3>the Sixers said, not for us, And they got Jaylen

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<v Speaker 3>Brown and Lebron.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the big one. If you had gotten Jail

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<v Speaker 1>Brown to.

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<v Speaker 2>And Paul George two draft picks in Paul George.

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<v Speaker 4>These numbers that were there thrown out, Oh, the Golden

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<v Speaker 4>State Wars could have given up before. Yeah, if they

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<v Speaker 4>could have these are all just rumors, that's all I mean. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>they could have given up four picks. It only took

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<v Speaker 4>two in Paul George for Philadelphia. I mean, it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>just these these lookers all they are all just rumors.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, Okay, but you don't think it's worth it for

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<v Speaker 3>four first round picks and Jimmy Butler contract to get

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<v Speaker 3>Jalen Brown.

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<v Speaker 4>It's yeah, it's a lot. The Sixers didn't even do it,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. It's like that makes more

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<v Speaker 4>sense if it is two picks, two draft picks and

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<v Speaker 4>Paul George. Anyway, all I'm saying is that it's all

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<v Speaker 4>just these rumored numbers and all that. So I do

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<v Speaker 4>think they do have the flexibility. Yeah, we are here

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<v Speaker 4>again with the Golden State Wars.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no doubt flexibility optionality is oh yeah, and they

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<v Speaker 1>all they did this year was bringing in a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four year old rookie.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it with their optionality.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe that's not a good yeah me and look

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<v Speaker 1>and then I mean not that we need to regurgitate it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like all the picks they've had over these

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of seasons, like I'm going back now, they

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<v Speaker 1>struck out on a couple of them. And maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>different if it's not James Wiseman or even Kaminga and

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<v Speaker 1>you know they nail one two of those, it's different

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<v Speaker 1>because now there's young players that you either grow up

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<v Speaker 1>alongside you're still court or you trade those guys and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, so or.

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<v Speaker 2>You can trade your court.

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<v Speaker 4>Literally, Draymond Green's contract is tradable, and it's always been

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<v Speaker 4>as a rumor to be tradeable.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't he make the exact same amount of money as

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<v Speaker 1>a Trey Murphy?

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<v Speaker 2>It's similar? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, let's go to the best free agents

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<v Speaker 1>available here and the latest intel. Because Lebron made the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA's most intriguing off season decision when he signed with

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<v Speaker 1>the Sixers last Friday, the free agency still marches on.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you know, other dominoes start to fall here. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess Draymond Green did yesterday because we sort of I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, is a large batch. Probably that's a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a stretch. Some intriguing players still remain available. We

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<v Speaker 1>got restricted free agents caught in some contentious contract standoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>We got former superstars that are like just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>extend their careers here. And we got some proven role

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<v Speaker 1>players that could maybe help a team. So let's go

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<v Speaker 1>through some here, ranking them. I guess you know the

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<v Speaker 1>most impressive name still available. It's jail And Durant, restricted

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<v Speaker 1>free agent with the Pistons. We've talked about this now

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<v Speaker 1>here for weeks, but during the regular season, this guy

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty impressive, looked like one of the best bigs

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<v Speaker 1>in the league, especially considering his age. He earned an

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<v Speaker 1>All NBA selection that made him eligible for a rookie

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<v Speaker 1>Max extension. And then the postseason happened and his scoring

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<v Speaker 1>drop from like twenty points per game to ten. His

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<v Speaker 1>field goal percentage plummeted, his turnover rates skyrocketed, his rebounding

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<v Speaker 1>rate dropped. I mean, he was and this was against

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<v Speaker 1>what Wendell Carter Junior, and then the Calves so it

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<v Speaker 1>was bad for him. You lost a lot of money. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Fisher spoke to two gms this week who were

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<v Speaker 1>of the impression that Duran's widely anticipated return to Detroit

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<v Speaker 1>might not get finalized until closer to the start of

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<v Speaker 1>training camp. So this could go on a while here,

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<v Speaker 1>and mark Stein said, league sources tell him Durhan is

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<v Speaker 1>waging the unappealing prospect of playing out the twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty seven season on a qualifying offer. You're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of that now, Duran, maybe Peyton Watson, this

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<v Speaker 1>idea of just hell of a gamble. It would be,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, especially if you got injured, just taking the

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<v Speaker 1>minimal money here, not locking up a big term contract

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<v Speaker 1>to then test unrestricted freegency. But what do you think here,

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<v Speaker 1>tasks Jillen Duran as number one on our list.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think either of those guys you mentioned, Duran

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<v Speaker 4>or Watson ends up taking just a qualifying offer for

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<v Speaker 4>next season. I think they end up saying signing a

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<v Speaker 4>long term deal. Although restricted free agency ain't all that appealing,

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<v Speaker 4>it's the least sexiest term that we throw out there

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<v Speaker 4>in July and August September, as you said, because it lingers.

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<v Speaker 4>It ain't sexy anymore under this new CBA. I think

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<v Speaker 4>Jayallenduran ends up signing with the Trick because there ain't

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<v Speaker 4>no other options for somebody who's going to sign him

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<v Speaker 4>anywhere close to the dollars that he wants.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's all. It's all a figure. Does he get

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<v Speaker 2>up to two.

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<v Speaker 4>Hundred for five years? Seemingly it's gonna gonna get way

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<v Speaker 4>lower than that, right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I would of course, I believe his camp

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<v Speaker 1>wants that forty plus million dollar annual average, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like the Pistons tray one closer to the thirty

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<v Speaker 1>the thirty two maybe sort of range here, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is the difference. Pretty big gap, honestly.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty big gap. But still, whatever Jalen Duran gets from

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<v Speaker 3>the Pistons is going to be more than if he

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<v Speaker 3>took the qualifying offer. And that's without having the potential

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<v Speaker 3>to lose more money. He can't guarantee he's going to

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<v Speaker 3>have a better playoffs this next coming season after having

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<v Speaker 3>an awesome regular season. The guy was All NBA third Team,

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<v Speaker 3>so he's looking at it. He's saying Walker Kessler thirty

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<v Speaker 3>million a year. That guy's done nothing in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 3>You better pay me forty million a year. Meanwhile, the

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<v Speaker 3>Pistons are looking at saying, hey, they got Walker Kesler

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<v Speaker 3>for thirty million a year. They had him over a

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<v Speaker 3>barrel restricted free agency. That's probably an overpay for Walker Kessler.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe they think the Pistons that they can get Jalen

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<v Speaker 3>Duran for under thirty million. To me, five for one

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<v Speaker 3>fifty is probably what's going to happen. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it breaks down whatever the annual average value is during

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<v Speaker 3>that I just think it will last until probably September

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<v Speaker 3>because there's no incentive for a team to really chase

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<v Speaker 3>after Jason Jalen Duran. There's no incentive for the Pistons

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<v Speaker 3>to go out of their way to increase their offer.

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<v Speaker 3>They're in the right here. This is why restricted free

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<v Speaker 3>agency works great for teams and not for.

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<v Speaker 2>Players or agents.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, agents really have to go into every offseason

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<v Speaker 4>thinking we got to get this done before he enters

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<v Speaker 4>restricted free agency.

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<v Speaker 2>That's got to be the new mo of an agent.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at all the guys this year.

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<v Speaker 4>Bennettt Mathern will get in, Peyton Watson will get into Kaminga.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, actually he's now, but all of those guys, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just it's terrible. Y're after you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's even last year, right, yeah, Cam Thomas, Quinton Grimes

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<v Speaker 1>probably forgetting other names.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's not good for restrictive agency for the players

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<v Speaker 1>and the agents there. James Harden's number two on my lists. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is just like a matter of when

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<v Speaker 1>he signs with Cleveland. Seventeen year vet expected to sign

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<v Speaker 1>with the Calves after he opted out of his pre

0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:27.320
<v Speaker 1>existing contract to allow the franchise more financial flexibility. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe try and get Lebron back home. The potential new

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<v Speaker 1>deal is expected to last no more than two years.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the latest reporting. Best guess on what this looks like, TK,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, can I throw a two year eighty million?

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, But think about the player option

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<v Speaker 1>he turned down?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, you're probably right with regards to what

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<v Speaker 3>he's actually turning down. But we know that basically James

0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:56.840
<v Speaker 3>Harden has a wink wink deal with the with the Calves.

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<v Speaker 3>It probably ended up costing them Lebron James Way. Reporting

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<v Speaker 3>has gone where it looked like the Lebron didn't want

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<v Speaker 3>to play with James Harden. He wanted to play with

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<v Speaker 3>Darius Garland, who's now on the Clippers. But the Cavs

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<v Speaker 3>did the deal with Harden and the like it, we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to extend you when it comes time. So I guess, man,

0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:18.399
<v Speaker 3>two years eighty million dollars. That sounds ridiculous to be

0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:22.480
<v Speaker 3>But the problem I know, I know, but it's twenty

0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:24.840
<v Speaker 3>twenty six Man, twenty sixteen. You don't need to be

0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:27.119
<v Speaker 3>paying this guy forty mili per season when he's one

0:21:27.160 --> 0:21:27.880
<v Speaker 3>hundred years old.

0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, they went nineteen and seven when Harden came over

0:21:31.400 --> 0:21:33.959
<v Speaker 1>and obviously made a run for them. At least they

0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:36.359
<v Speaker 1>made the conference finals. That was the point they got wax.

0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:38.720
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, what do you think on Harden here?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he is just waiting to see when the Mario

0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:47.040
<v Speaker 4>Hazonia deal gets done, because that ain't even done. It's

0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:49.400
<v Speaker 4>just about dollars for him. But I do think it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to be less.

0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:53.320
<v Speaker 2>I think you think I'm too high, Yeah, I think I.

0:21:53.280 --> 0:21:56.440
<v Speaker 4>Think, Like like Draymond Green turned down twenty seven million

0:21:56.480 --> 0:21:58.680
<v Speaker 4>dollars in a player option he was supposed to sign

0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:02.880
<v Speaker 4>for three six if Lebron got there. Now it hasn't happened.

0:22:03.240 --> 0:22:06.359
<v Speaker 4>It didn't happen. So he signed for one in twenty seven,

0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:09.600
<v Speaker 4>and so I think the agreement, the handshake is cheaper

0:22:09.960 --> 0:22:12.680
<v Speaker 4>than his player option over two years.

0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:16.880
<v Speaker 1>I think it'll be cheaper just because there's another year.

0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, yes, And he's old third.

0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:25.240
<v Speaker 1>On the list, you know, the aforementioned Peyton Watson restricted

0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:27.840
<v Speaker 1>free agent with the Nuggets. Now, for those that are

0:22:27.880 --> 0:22:30.159
<v Speaker 1>not keeping up with him, obviously an athletics swing man,

0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:32.320
<v Speaker 1>had a really good year. Can hit threes or did

0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:37.320
<v Speaker 1>hit threes at a consistent rate, high level havoc defensively,

0:22:37.440 --> 0:22:39.399
<v Speaker 1>really talented on that end, especially when it comes to

0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:42.560
<v Speaker 1>blocking shots for his size. So Stein reported that the Nuggets'

0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:46.120
<v Speaker 1>initial contract offer was somewhere in the range of seventy

0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:49.879
<v Speaker 1>million over four years, so seventeen and a half million

0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:53.119
<v Speaker 1>per year. But that is a figure that is well

0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:55.680
<v Speaker 1>below the other guy on his team. And I think

0:22:55.720 --> 0:22:58.520
<v Speaker 1>this is the issue here in Christian Brown, who got

0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:00.800
<v Speaker 1>the one hundred and twenty five million dollars five year

0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:04.679
<v Speaker 1>extension last October. That's just about to kick in, like

0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:08.760
<v Speaker 1>that's starting here, So twenty five mil per Watson's gotta

0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:12.399
<v Speaker 1>be looking at him going, I'm better than him. I'm

0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:16.040
<v Speaker 1>trajectory wise alone and even what I've already produced, So

0:23:17.080 --> 0:23:19.080
<v Speaker 1>this one feels like a huge gap too. And again

0:23:19.080 --> 0:23:21.240
<v Speaker 1>there's been some rumors of this idea if he takes

0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:23.680
<v Speaker 1>just a qualifying offer to then hit on stricter free agency,

0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:27.679
<v Speaker 1>which actually, oddly maybe the Nuggets would be okay with

0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:30.119
<v Speaker 1>because they're working their books here and their aprons and

0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:32.000
<v Speaker 1>all that. But you don't think that still is a

0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:33.960
<v Speaker 1>thing because it's such a massive gamble for the player.

0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you just tearing Achilles and then you're cooked.

0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:39.399
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this is a unique scenario because they've entered the

0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:43.639
<v Speaker 4>second apron, the only team that's there, so they're looking

0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:46.199
<v Speaker 4>to move on from one of their other supporting guys,

0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:48.960
<v Speaker 4>whether it's Christian Brown or Cam Johnson. I think Peyton

0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:52.040
<v Speaker 4>Watson is actually more important than Aaron Gordon on this team.

0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:54.840
<v Speaker 4>I know it sounds crazy because Aaron Gordon is their guy,

0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:58.560
<v Speaker 4>but they need Peyton Watson's athleticism, they need his youth.

0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:02.400
<v Speaker 4>Aaron Gordon's body is failing him, and Peyton Watson can

0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:05.240
<v Speaker 4>be super, super good. It wasn't just shooting the three.

0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:07.520
<v Speaker 4>I thought he was really good, and that sixteen game

0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:09.840
<v Speaker 4>stretch where Jokic was out putting the ball on the

0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:12.920
<v Speaker 4>floor and scoring, and defensively he was the best defensive

0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:15.440
<v Speaker 4>player on the other side, So he's super important. Is

0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:19.959
<v Speaker 4>it a gamble, Yeah, several years paying him. Yeah, because

0:24:20.040 --> 0:24:22.360
<v Speaker 4>he was also injured this season. He also hasn't done

0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:24.760
<v Speaker 4>it a lot in his career, so it is scary.

0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:28.359
<v Speaker 4>The numbers being thrown out there are man Tony Jones

0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:30.800
<v Speaker 4>at the athletic through five for seventy, so it's just

0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:35.119
<v Speaker 4>fourteen per steining throughout the It's more like sixteen to eighteen,

0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:37.720
<v Speaker 4>and that's what he's going to end up taking.

0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:39.960
<v Speaker 2>But they need him so bad. It's such a.

0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:43.600
<v Speaker 4>Drop off after Jokic and Jamal Murray. Whether it's Christian

0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:47.280
<v Speaker 4>Brown not looking like himself and worthy of that contract,

0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:51.000
<v Speaker 4>Aaron Gordon's body failing him, or Cam Johnson who didn't

0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:53.159
<v Speaker 4>look like the player that they got. Now you can

0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:57.000
<v Speaker 4>squint and say Kim Johnson was decent at times, Christian

0:24:57.000 --> 0:24:59.360
<v Speaker 4>Brown was decent at times. But I think they really

0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:02.640
<v Speaker 4>need Peyton Wan. But the books are an important part here.

0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:05.159
<v Speaker 4>It's a unique scenario in Denver.

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Christian Brown's just lucky he came up for his

0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:11.040
<v Speaker 3>contract before Peyton Watson did. At that point, when Christian

0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:12.880
<v Speaker 3>Brown got paid his five year, one hundred and twenty

0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:15.520
<v Speaker 3>five million, which, like your sayans Keets hasn't even kicked

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:17.879
<v Speaker 3>in yet, finally kicking in the season, Brown had accomplished

0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:20.399
<v Speaker 3>more than Peyton Watson. Had a bad season last year

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:23.840
<v Speaker 3>after coming back from injury, Christian Brown did. Meanwhile, Peyton

0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:25.800
<v Speaker 3>Watson had an awesome sixteen games, and he's trying to

0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:28.800
<v Speaker 3>get paid basically off those sixteen games. I think the

0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:31.240
<v Speaker 3>Nuggets need to keep him. If they're able to keep

0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 3>him on a five year, seventy million dollar deal, absolute

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:37.159
<v Speaker 3>steal for Denver. I don't actually think he can replace

0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:40.760
<v Speaker 3>Aaron Gordon. I don't think Watson guards bigger guys the

0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:43.960
<v Speaker 3>way that Gordon can. I don't think he rebounds in

0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:47.119
<v Speaker 3>the same way. But it's more so he's going to

0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:49.760
<v Speaker 3>be comparing himself to Christian Brown, and he's saying, Christian

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:52.160
<v Speaker 3>Brown's getting twenty five million a year. There's no way

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:54.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm taking anything less than that. It might mean he

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 3>has to take the qualifying offer. I think it's more

0:25:56.640 --> 0:26:00.240
<v Speaker 3>reasonable for him to do it, since he'll be taking

0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:02.199
<v Speaker 3>less of a pay cut than Jalen Duran would be

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 3>since Duran thinks he's, you know, a forty million dollar player.

0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:10.879
<v Speaker 3>Watson less established doesn't have the all NBA credentials, but

0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:13.160
<v Speaker 3>at least for him, there are some teams out there

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 3>that could get to his number with trade exceptions. The

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:18.760
<v Speaker 3>Bucks are looking at him, the Clippers, the Hawks, they

0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:21.240
<v Speaker 3>all want to do a sign and trade. That wouldn't

0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:22.920
<v Speaker 3>be good for Denver, but at least it would be

0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:25.320
<v Speaker 3>a way for them to get something back because it

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:26.919
<v Speaker 3>feels like they're pretty far apart on this.

0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Fisher says the Nuggets are looking for at least

0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:31.720
<v Speaker 1>two first round picks and a sign and trade deal

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:34.320
<v Speaker 1>involving Watson if they were to do that. Shaum's reported

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:37.480
<v Speaker 1>that the Nuggets lowered their asking price in a potential

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:39.800
<v Speaker 1>sign and trade. He said, quote, the Nuggets initially had

0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:42.840
<v Speaker 1>set a price this offseason of similar to the Walker

0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:47.119
<v Speaker 1>Kessler deal to first two swaps. Now apparently the price

0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:49.239
<v Speaker 1>is a really good high level player as well as

0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:52.480
<v Speaker 1>a first round pick. So as much as you say

0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 1>you love the idea of fear the Nuggets to keep Watson, task, yeah,

0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:58.439
<v Speaker 1>maybe this is something they're exploring just because of the

0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:01.320
<v Speaker 1>logjam of sort of these guys that sort of all

0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:04.200
<v Speaker 1>play somewhat of a similar position and just all of

0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:07.239
<v Speaker 1>them being paid here in addition to obviously, Yo kich As,

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:09.520
<v Speaker 1>you're a main guy, You've got Murray Max guy. I mean,

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 1>they're they're squeezed here and there. Somebody does have to

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:15.320
<v Speaker 1>be moved. I'm with you. I'd have Watson above a

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:18.359
<v Speaker 1>lot of these other guys, the Cam Johnson's, the Christian

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Brown's for sure, the Aaron Gordon wants abatable. But yeah,

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:23.400
<v Speaker 1>this is this is a tough spot here, and maybe

0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 1>this is a sign in trade.

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:27.040
<v Speaker 4>A good sign for Denver Nuggets fans that they want

0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:29.560
<v Speaker 4>to keep Payton Watson. The Nuggets haven't done a lot

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:31.200
<v Speaker 4>when it comes to the bench, and they let Tim

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 4>Hardaway go and they let you know, as fall the

0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:35.439
<v Speaker 4>tunas go, you know, they replace them with smaller parts.

0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:38.400
<v Speaker 2>But maybe they are thinking, yeah.

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:42.800
<v Speaker 4>We're going into the attacks in a deep way that

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:45.159
<v Speaker 4>not a lot of people expect. That people think this

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 4>team never spends money, and they're spending money at.

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:51.160
<v Speaker 2>Well at this point they can obviously change.

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 4>But that's that's that's a good sign, I suppose. But yeah,

0:27:55.000 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 4>they they got to move some part. It's just such

0:27:57.280 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 4>an oddly manufact your team at this point with how

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:05.160
<v Speaker 4>everybody has sort of fallen off. Beyond Jokic and Jamal Murray.

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Number four on the list, another restricted free agent Benedict

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Mathren with the Clippers. He's a scorer, but his three

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 1>point shot abandoned him in the second half of last season.

0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I had a triple check. He's like, is this right?

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:21.240
<v Speaker 1>He shot twenty percent from distance after the All Star breaks,

0:28:21.280 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 1>so it was a bad stretch there. But he is

0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:26.480
<v Speaker 1>a scorer. Ben the Baker. At times he's a weird

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 1>player because you know, we've seen him in finals games

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 1>where he popped off and you're like, oh, this guy

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 1>sort of looks like a potential maybe star in this league.

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:36.960
<v Speaker 1>And then at other times he looks unplayable. So he's

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:40.640
<v Speaker 1>a weird player. Fisher says, there are fresh rumbles. It's

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 1>my new favorite.

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 3>Saying fresh rumbles.

0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Fisher.

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Regarding Mathern's situation, sources say the Pelicans have showed the

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 1>strongest trade interest in Mathrin, and there was also like

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 1>a second unnamed suitor from the Steinlein and we have

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:03.240
<v Speaker 1>learned that it's Chicago Bulls. So a couple teams maybe

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 1>kicking the tires here on something here With Bennedict Mathri,

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:07.719
<v Speaker 1>I'll start with you, Trey, your reaction to him here.

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 3>Uh, He's just a guy. Benedict Mathren to me, is

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 3>slightly smaller Jonathan Minga. He can score and that's about it.

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:18.760
<v Speaker 3>If he's rolling, it looks great. He had a couple

0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:21.560
<v Speaker 3>of awesome finals games, which is basically all that anybody

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 3>remembers about Benedict Mathrine. You mentioned he shot twenty percent

0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 3>for half of a season. Nobody thinks about that. They

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 3>think about him scoring twenty four points in the final game.

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:32.720
<v Speaker 3>I think that somebody will get Benedict Mathren on a

0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:36.240
<v Speaker 3>pretty cheap deal pretty soon and he'll be fine and

0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 3>we'll be talking about him again in free agency.

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if you go deeper than just the finals games,

0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 4>he had some good times with the Pacers where he's

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 4>shooting the three really well, and so when he went

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 4>to the Clippers, like you're referring to those last couple

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 4>months of the season, yeah they're bad, but yeah, those

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 4>times with the Pacers also just not consistent enough.

0:29:57.280 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 2>You look through the whole.

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 4>Catalog of to Dick Mathern he's shooting below average in

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:06.320
<v Speaker 4>terms of true shooting PERCENTA is across the board of

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 4>an NBA player. There's below NBA average last season, and

0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 4>so it ain't that great. But he gets buckets, he

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 4>gets to the rim, hes gets he puts pressure on

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 4>a defense, which obviously is a skill that he has.

0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 1>And he's still young and all that. But yeah, he's

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:26.880
<v Speaker 1>number four here on the list. Let's pair him with

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Kaminga at number five with the Hawks right now. Now,

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 1>the Calves are reportedly still interested. Maybe in a sign

0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 1>and trade to at Kaminga could be difficult because they

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:38.280
<v Speaker 1>are hard capped at the first apron, so it's a

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:40.200
<v Speaker 1>bit of a challenge there when it comes to a

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:43.280
<v Speaker 1>trade construction with Atlanta that they would find suitable. Fisher

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 1>also says the Lakers would still like to sign Kaminga

0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 1>make them their starting small forward. There's a spot right

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 1>here for you, Jonathan Kaminga, fifth on the list.

0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 4>I think that Lakers fit is questionable. You're going to

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:01.240
<v Speaker 4>start beside Luca and Austin Reeves.

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 2>It's scary.

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 4>You're not a great defensive player. That's clear. You can

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 4>get buckets, but beside Luca and Austin Reeves, who isn't

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 4>an incredible defensive player. You want somebody who's a really

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 4>good defensive player. So that idea of a sign and trade,

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 4>which has got to be multiple years, has got to

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:19.000
<v Speaker 4>be three years. You're devoting a lot to Jonathan Kaminga,

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:23.040
<v Speaker 4>who's never really been trusted at this point to have

0:31:23.080 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 4>a long term deal, So that is questionable big time.

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 4>Now you could say JJ Reddick will get him to

0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:30.000
<v Speaker 4>buy in and coming off the bench and he'll be

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 4>great and he maybe he can play fourth quarters. I

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 4>get it, but it sounds like a lot of money

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 4>when it comes to what the Hawks and the Lakers

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 4>will end up agreeing to in a sign in trade.

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 3>I have no idea what Kaminga's gonna make here, because

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 3>he played pretty decently I thought in the first round

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 3>for the Hawks. He looked good after the trade, like

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:58.720
<v Speaker 3>he was fitting in and everybody eats situation. He was

0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 3>running the court, he was looking like an athlete, and

0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:02.400
<v Speaker 3>they said they ain't no way we're paying you twenty

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 3>four point three million dollars. So we know Kuminga wants

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 3>to get paid seriously, we know he wants a big role.

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:11.719
<v Speaker 3>I guess the Lakers have a slightly bigger role than

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:12.160
<v Speaker 3>the Cavs.

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, do they. Yeah, I don't know. I

0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 2>don't know either.

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of hot usage players at the top

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:20.040
<v Speaker 3>of both of those teams rosters, so I don't know.

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:23.840
<v Speaker 3>I can't believe we're talking about Jonathan Kaminga's free agency again.

0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 3>This is a guy who is like I said with

0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:29.200
<v Speaker 3>Benedict Mathrin, this is just a guy. There are a

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 3>lot of guys who can score seventeen points a game

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:33.880
<v Speaker 3>on middling efficiency if you give him enough possessions, and

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 3>those are two of them.

0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and the Hawks continuously get a guy who's at

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 4>the end of his contract, you're Kminga's, you're Kristaps Porzingis,

0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:46.240
<v Speaker 4>and then let him go. So they are a great

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 4>roster in terms of tradable players that you can put

0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 4>together and say, all right, superstar time eventually. And Kuminga

0:32:57.400 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 4>could have been one of those guys if they brought

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 4>him back for cheap, but they're not going to, so

0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 4>they have ton of assets otherwise, so they're just saying

0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 4>goodbye essentially.

0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 5>To a guy that played well. As you said, Trey,

0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 5>there are good times. Yeah, I mean I like that comparison.

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:13.240
<v Speaker 5>Now I think about it, Like you said, Matherine and Comingo,

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 5>they're like you catch them on the right night again,

0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 5>you go, damn, they're that's a potential superstar.

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Honestly, you see it. Obviously, consistency is a huge issue.

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:24.720
<v Speaker 1>They are more just scores. That's the other thing. They're

0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 1>not helping in other ways. Will either of these guys

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:28.840
<v Speaker 1>like figure it out, like if I want to have

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:31.480
<v Speaker 1>a really long career here and make hundreds and hundreds

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:34.280
<v Speaker 1>of millions of dollars, like commit myself to the defensive

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 1>end as well and become maybe more of a team player,

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:39.200
<v Speaker 1>who will do that first? We'll both will neither. Yeah,

0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 1>I see a little bit of comparisons between them.

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 4>It's a good comparison in terms of how much they've

0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 4>come off the bench and not been starters. But it

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 4>seems like they're veering towards one guy will be okay

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 4>being a starter and one guy won't. I'm guessing that

0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:53.880
<v Speaker 4>Matherine will be okay being a bench guy, but I

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 4>could be wrong.

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Maybe that could be very well.

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 3>We hear a lot more about Cominga's role than we

0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:00.720
<v Speaker 3>hear about Matherin talking about his role yep.

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, six, seven and eight, I'm gonna lump together. It's

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Demarta Rosen, It's Bradley Beal, and it's Russell Westbrook.

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Three yep, I was gonna say three future Hall of

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Famers and Bill very questionable. DeRozan I think he's in

0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Westbrook is a lock. And then Beal is going to

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 1>be one of those like maybe probably on the outside,

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 1>but anyway, these guys are probably going to be on

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:24.239
<v Speaker 1>a new play.

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Now, DeRozan has been linked to the Heat, the Warriors,

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:30.680
<v Speaker 1>a potential return of the Raptors. There was another one

0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 1>that just dropped, I forget the team that he's been

0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 1>linked to the Wizards.

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:34.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:36.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Shan said that that's right. The Wizards are looking

0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:37.520
<v Speaker 1>for another score.

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 4>The Wizards just played two seasons on the Kings.

0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:43.880
<v Speaker 3>It's the difference.

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:46.440
<v Speaker 4>Well, he wants to, you know, maybe end his career

0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:48.840
<v Speaker 4>somewhere where it's not a loser of a loser.

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:53.440
<v Speaker 3>I think the Wizards would be an upgrade from the

0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 3>Kings this season unfortunately.

0:34:57.400 --> 0:35:00.160
<v Speaker 1>And then Bill Westbrook, like I said, yeah, of those three,

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I guess who interested in the most Intrigued the most by.

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 3>Beale, I guess Honestly, Bradley, he's three years younger. That's

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:10.719
<v Speaker 3>the only thing I can say positively about any of

0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:14.359
<v Speaker 3>these three guys. Apparently Westbrook is looking at Europe maybe.

0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow.

0:35:15.520 --> 0:35:19.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean he's almost thirty eight years old. He

0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:23.400
<v Speaker 3>also played for the King's last Yeah, these are just

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 3>guys we know. Bet. Bradley Beal played six games last season.

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:28.920
<v Speaker 3>He had back surgery. I think right like, he might

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:31.240
<v Speaker 3>be three years younger, but that's an old man injury

0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:33.879
<v Speaker 3>to have. But he was one of those guys. There's

0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:36.440
<v Speaker 3>seventeen points out there, go get him, and he did

0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 3>it for the Suns. I still think Bradley Beal could

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:42.319
<v Speaker 3>get fourteen points coming off the bench for the Miami Heat.

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:46.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, even if he's three years younger, he ain't gonna

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 4>play as much as Damar.

0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:48.479
<v Speaker 1>No, that's true.

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:52.560
<v Speaker 4>Damar plays and he's been in the league great seventeen years.

0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:55.320
<v Speaker 2>He's playing whenever you want him to play.

0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:57.240
<v Speaker 4>And so I think the fit there with the Miami

0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:59.239
<v Speaker 4>Heat works the best because he's going to play a

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:03.680
<v Speaker 4>lot and they need a score desperately because of what

0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 4>they've constructed, how much they have to give up for Giannis.

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 4>So I think Damar there makes sense. Is he just

0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 4>waiting around now because of the Kawhi Leonards scenario?

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Maybe not.

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:17.400
<v Speaker 4>Maybe that's me reaching to say he wants to go

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:20.000
<v Speaker 4>back to Toronto, but it seems that's a hot thing,

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:21.880
<v Speaker 4>guys going back to their old teams.

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:23.560
<v Speaker 2>But I think Miami's the one.

0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Other names because now we're getting into the mid of

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:30.680
<v Speaker 1>the dregs here. Bruce Brown, Oh yeah, that's your guy.

0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:32.799
<v Speaker 1>You love it. Gabe Vincent, who's more of your guy?

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Gave Vincent or Bruce Brown tests because those are two

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:38.080
<v Speaker 1>free agents names still available.

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:41.640
<v Speaker 2>Jeremy, gimme the Bruce Bruce.

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Kelly, olennok Camp, Thomas, Brandon Williams actually was pretty solid

0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:47.800
<v Speaker 1>as a guard for the Mavericks. He's out there. I

0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 1>think Nick Richards, Kevin Love there's another old guy. But

0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:56.240
<v Speaker 1>toom old Seth Curry, I didn't say, Steph said Seth.

0:36:56.840 --> 0:37:00.800
<v Speaker 1>That's where we're at here, Like you're interested in Bruce.

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Brown, Yeah, off a bench, he can help.

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:07.719
<v Speaker 4>He helped steal a ball from Rudy Gobert in Game

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:11.920
<v Speaker 4>one of the Nuggets Wolves series this year. That guy

0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:15.399
<v Speaker 4>he played Game one of that series. Bruce Brown put

0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:17.759
<v Speaker 4>up twenty Was it twenty or hold on? Or am

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 4>I getting it conflated? He had like five steals that game.

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 4>That was the one big steal out there. Getting in

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:27.560
<v Speaker 4>with Ruby Rudy Gobert feels like he's got some legs left.

0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 4>He's not an old man.

0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:33.920
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, wait, same birthday?

0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 3>Are you the fifteenth?

0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:35.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 3>The same birthday birthday.

0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:41.920
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know that. Bruce, Bruce, Truce.

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:46.720
<v Speaker 4>Let's hang out, man. Yeah, I'm taking Bruce over. Gave Vincent?

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:48.040
<v Speaker 4>What are his stats?

0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:50.879
<v Speaker 3>I'm impressed five steel game. I was gonna say, tell

0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 3>me something that Bruce Brown did last season because I

0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:55.400
<v Speaker 3>can't think of it, But you're right, he did have

0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:57.480
<v Speaker 3>a five steal game and apparently he helped steal a

0:37:57.520 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 3>ball from Ry Gobert in Game one fourth quarter. If

0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:05.000
<v Speaker 3>they scored thirty eight points total in the series, so

0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 3>he didn't have a twenty point game.

0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 4>I got maybe over inflating what he performed like in

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:11.280
<v Speaker 4>Game one, but I'm impressed.

0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm impressed that you would know the five steals off

0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:13.719
<v Speaker 3>the top of here.

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:14.680
<v Speaker 2>It was awesome.

0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:17.000
<v Speaker 4>That was an awesome I thought he was the he

0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:18.760
<v Speaker 4>was the key coming off the bench, being their energy.

0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 4>But they just let him go. I was a little

0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:23.120
<v Speaker 4>surprised by that. Why not bring him back for a minimum?

0:38:23.160 --> 0:38:24.880
<v Speaker 4>I guess they're just waiting to see what they do.

0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:27.040
<v Speaker 4>They still could, I guess they could yet.

0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he did play in every game last year for

0:38:29.280 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 1>the Nuggets too, off the bench, But an eighty two

0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:35.160
<v Speaker 1>game player in today's NBA is like, okay, good for you,

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:37.439
<v Speaker 1>Bruce giddy up.

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:42.680
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So do you think these guys will retire? Jeff Green,

0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 3>Kevin Loved, Nick Batoom, Garrett Temple, Thanasis, Onto Kakumpo, all

0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:52.000
<v Speaker 3>free agents, tem Temple, Yes, I think Temple said yes.

0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I think I thought so too.

0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:55.279
<v Speaker 2>I think he announced I don't.

0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:56.640
<v Speaker 1>I think Love will be on a roster?

0:38:56.840 --> 0:38:57.239
<v Speaker 3>You think so?

0:38:57.440 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:38:57.640 --> 0:38:58.600
<v Speaker 2>I agree to do.

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:03.359
<v Speaker 1>The other ones you said, Jeff Green, Wow, I'd love

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:04.839
<v Speaker 1>to see one more Jeff Green dunk.

0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:09.120
<v Speaker 3>He's got one like three teams he hasn't played for

0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:11.840
<v Speaker 3>at this point in his career. He's never been a

0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:12.680
<v Speaker 3>ball Come on down.

0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Why not Nick?

0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:16.240
<v Speaker 3>Buttoom he played like seventy five games last year.

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I could see ridiculous. I think he'll be on a roster.

0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:20.880
<v Speaker 3>I think he's been trying to retire first seasons. He's like,

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:22.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm retiring after the paras Olympics.

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:25.319
<v Speaker 1>We won't let him, won't let him know he's still

0:39:25.360 --> 0:39:25.960
<v Speaker 1>solid enough.

0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:30.800
<v Speaker 3>No deal from the Heat. Yeah, thirty four years.

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 1>Old, I'll towards the end of yeahs.

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:40.480
<v Speaker 4>Can his podcast producers outbid the Miami Heat keep him

0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:41.880
<v Speaker 4>in Milwaukee on that couch?

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Maybe?

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's where we are at free agency. A lot

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 1>of those the most interesting names that restricted free agents,

0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:51.719
<v Speaker 1>for sure, especially if you believe Harden is just going

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:53.880
<v Speaker 1>to be signing with Cleveland there and whatever the number is.

0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:57.719
<v Speaker 1>But the for sure the Durham, the Watson and the

0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:00.560
<v Speaker 1>math room is is interesting, and they don't usually they

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:03.319
<v Speaker 1>don't use there's no team with cap spaces, so it's

0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:05.520
<v Speaker 1>not like there's matching offers out there and you're like, oh,

0:40:05.560 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 1>why isn't the Nets throwing it off? That just nobody

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:11.200
<v Speaker 1>has any So more likely than not, I guess they'll

0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:12.840
<v Speaker 1>all be with their teams outside of a sign and

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:15.960
<v Speaker 1>trade or like a friction so much between the player

0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:18.640
<v Speaker 1>and the agent and then the team. Let's let's say

0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:21.200
<v Speaker 1>endurances case or something like where there's anger built up

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:23.800
<v Speaker 1>now and resentment. I don't know. It's it is a business.

0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 1>It's unfortunate you're still hopefully getting paid thirty plus million dollars,

0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:29.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, and this is like life changing money. That's

0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:32.440
<v Speaker 1>the thing. When you talk about the qualifying offer, you're like, okay,

0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:34.520
<v Speaker 1>six million dollars, Like nobody's gonna roll their eyes at that,

0:40:34.560 --> 0:40:37.319
<v Speaker 1>But like we are talking about one hundred and fifty

0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:40.040
<v Speaker 1>plus million whatever, seventy million. Watson's ky like, this is

0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:43.000
<v Speaker 1>this is your first massive deal. And again there's no

0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 1>gamble of an injury or stuff like that, or even

0:40:46.000 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, maintaining the level that got you into these

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:50.759
<v Speaker 1>conversations for that type of money, because then you get

0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:53.880
<v Speaker 1>into the worry of like what if the franchise, you know,

0:40:54.000 --> 0:40:56.680
<v Speaker 1>SOA buries us, Sodas buries the player so to speak

0:40:56.719 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, and pecking orders and stuff like that.

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:03.400
<v Speaker 4>So there was a rumor out of there for Bendic

0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:05.840
<v Speaker 4>Mathern going to the New Orleans Pelicans, as mark Stein

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:07.880
<v Speaker 4>put it, coming off the bench there.

0:41:08.160 --> 0:41:09.800
<v Speaker 2>That kind of makes sense.

0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:12.000
<v Speaker 4>It gets a one year trial to try and get

0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:14.719
<v Speaker 4>paid against next season because the Pelicans like to give

0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:17.000
<v Speaker 4>guys a try that didn't work out with other teams.

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:20.480
<v Speaker 4>You know, you're Jordan Poole's your Sadik Bazier de Jonte

0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 4>Marie even to some degree.

0:41:22.120 --> 0:41:23.759
<v Speaker 2>So there, that seems like a good fit.

0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:27.240
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get to drafting the worst NBA nicknames.

0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 1>This is something that we thought up earlier this week.

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:32.520
<v Speaker 1>We thought we could have some fun here as some

0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:35.479
<v Speaker 1>summer activities on the show. We're going to do five

0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:38.040
<v Speaker 1>rounds of this, so a lot of bad nicknames will

0:41:38.080 --> 0:41:42.080
<v Speaker 1>be drafted. I had forgotten right before we went live

0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:44.279
<v Speaker 1>to come up with a trivia question, as I like

0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:46.279
<v Speaker 1>to do, to see of you two guys, who gets

0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 1>to pick first in our draft? So here it is,

0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:51.680
<v Speaker 1>so here it is. Okay, it's got nothing to do

0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:55.920
<v Speaker 1>with the NBA. What's the exact run time of Christopher

0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Nolan's The Odyssey? I want total minutes, total minutes, okay,

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:02.520
<v Speaker 1>So don't give me hours minutes, just give me total minutes.

0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I'll let you go first, and then he.

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:07.200
<v Speaker 2>Can go over under one hundred and sixty one.

0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, one sixty one. You said one hundred and sixty

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:12.800
<v Speaker 1>one minutes from time, Well over one hundred and seventy

0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:16.799
<v Speaker 1>two minutes, two hours, fifty two minutes. Yeah, yeah, did

0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:18.200
<v Speaker 1>you do the I think correctly?

0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:20.879
<v Speaker 4>Oh no, no, I guess. I guess to forty one

0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:24.000
<v Speaker 4>two hours, forty one minutes. But that's my mistake.

0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:24.520
<v Speaker 2>Again.

0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:28.359
<v Speaker 4>I'll have to repeat myself from other shows. It flew by.

0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:30.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe that's why I'm saying it was only two

0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:31.759
<v Speaker 2>forty That's impressive. Good.

0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:35.160
<v Speaker 1>I just got my tickets for Friday. I catch up

0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:37.200
<v Speaker 1>with you guys. JD's already seen it eight times, so

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I gotta at least watch it once. I figure.

0:42:40.160 --> 0:42:43.680
<v Speaker 4>Okay, so Trey figure out the how Lebron is Odysseus?

0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, yes, of course, well I he yesked, So Trey,

0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:49.520
<v Speaker 1>you have the first pick here in the Worst NBA

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Nicknames Draft. Now, all of these nicknames have to be

0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:55.800
<v Speaker 1>on Basketball Reference. Yes, okay, you can't make up one

0:42:56.200 --> 0:42:58.359
<v Speaker 1>like a weird pun tast has said maybe once upon

0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:02.040
<v Speaker 1>time that's not on Basketball Reference. Gotta be on Basketball Reference. Uh,

0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:03.040
<v Speaker 1>where are you starting?

0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:03.239
<v Speaker 2>Man?

0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:06.799
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm really thrilled to get the number one pick

0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 3>because when I looked through all two thousand, eight hundred

0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:13.799
<v Speaker 3>and forty four lines on the spreadsheet that was sent

0:43:13.840 --> 0:43:16.480
<v Speaker 3>to us of these nicknames. Yeah, one stuck out to me.

0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:18.440
<v Speaker 3>I had to have it. Like I said, two eight

0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:20.880
<v Speaker 3>hundred and forty four entries. Some of these guys have

0:43:20.920 --> 0:43:24.200
<v Speaker 3>more than one name, O god, yeah, easily five thousand

0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:26.000
<v Speaker 3>nicknames in the Basketball Reference database.

0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 1>I would have to think even low yeah. Yeah.

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:30.520
<v Speaker 3>And the one that caught my eye that I knew

0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 3>I was going to pick with my first pick, assuming

0:43:32.560 --> 0:43:35.640
<v Speaker 3>it lasted this long is a guy who played from

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:39.960
<v Speaker 3>nineteen sixty seven to nineteen seventy six in the NBA.

0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:41.400
<v Speaker 3>His name was George Carter.

0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:42.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm lying to you.

0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:43.520
<v Speaker 1>He didn't even play.

0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:45.799
<v Speaker 3>He played one season in the NBA, then everything else

0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 3>in the ABA. His name is George Carter and his

0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:56.720
<v Speaker 3>nickname is dirty dingis what steel.

0:43:56.760 --> 0:43:59.040
<v Speaker 1>I was wondering how people were going to approach this, like,

0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:02.400
<v Speaker 1>were you gonna with names and players that we actually knew,

0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:04.960
<v Speaker 1>or just straight up guys we've never heard of but

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:07.920
<v Speaker 1>have a crazy nickname like dirty Dingas George.

0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:12.000
<v Speaker 3>And Trey answered the question.

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:14.919
<v Speaker 1>He's going with the obscure player with the crazy nickname. Okay.

0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:17.360
<v Speaker 3>I got some names on the list, guys that we know,

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:20.680
<v Speaker 3>and of course, as we all remember, George Carter was

0:44:20.719 --> 0:44:23.600
<v Speaker 3>an All Star for the Virginia Squires in the seventy

0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:27.120
<v Speaker 3>one season in the ABA. So a known player. But

0:44:27.800 --> 0:44:30.080
<v Speaker 3>George dirty Dingus Carter.

0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Did you do any research on why nickname? No, didn't

0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 1>want that in your no. No, okay, George Carter. There's

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:46.520
<v Speaker 1>a nineteen seventy Western comedy named dirty Dingus McGee.

0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:50.000
<v Speaker 3>Nineteen seventy did you say? Okay? So like same time frame.

0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:54.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering if there's any crossovers. Yeah, and there stars

0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:57.719
<v Speaker 1>Frank Sinatra and George. Oh wait, maybe that's is that

0:44:57.800 --> 0:45:01.920
<v Speaker 1>the tie? What George can Okay, it's the sheriff. I

0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:04.600
<v Speaker 1>guess I don't know how we got it.

0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:07.520
<v Speaker 3>I I'll did some research, that's all right, So give

0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:08.160
<v Speaker 3>me the dirty Ding.

0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:12.279
<v Speaker 4>That was the time for questionable nicknames. I mean that

0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:14.400
<v Speaker 4>those couple decades, decades.

0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:17.839
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even mean to say that, but.

0:45:18.120 --> 0:45:21.360
<v Speaker 4>Lots of lots of questionable ones. I kind of stayed

0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:23.520
<v Speaker 4>away from that time. That era.

0:45:25.320 --> 0:45:26.560
<v Speaker 3>Of era.

0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:30.439
<v Speaker 1>Every second guy you met on this street was named

0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:32.120
<v Speaker 1>dirty dingas.

0:45:31.680 --> 0:45:38.160
<v Speaker 4>Although with my first pick, I'll stay in that that region,

0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:46.480
<v Speaker 4>that physical region. Mason Plumley, his nickname is Plums, not

0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:51.640
<v Speaker 4>fin It's it's just it's it's the genitals, let's be honest,

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:55.279
<v Speaker 4>and somebody can literally start talking trash to you. On

0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:57.840
<v Speaker 4>the other side, you can be picked on. You know,

0:45:57.960 --> 0:46:01.799
<v Speaker 4>somebody will literally grab their plums and say, I just

0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:06.319
<v Speaker 4>kicked in the plums. Uh, you know, suck on these plums,

0:46:06.360 --> 0:46:09.600
<v Speaker 4>that kind of thing. So yeah, just because I'm staying

0:46:09.600 --> 0:46:11.920
<v Speaker 4>in the same region, I didn't find this hard at all.

0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:15.680
<v Speaker 4>I think there's like a thousand names.

0:46:15.880 --> 0:46:16.520
<v Speaker 2>But now now the.

0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Good thing for Mason Plumbley Plum's bad but plumb Dog Millionaire,

0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:24.760
<v Speaker 1>I think good because you've said it for years.

0:46:24.800 --> 0:46:26.960
<v Speaker 2>But solid I'm a fan of that one.

0:46:27.000 --> 0:46:29.319
<v Speaker 4>Well, you just brought up the movie that came out

0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:33.480
<v Speaker 4>for for the Dingus. Yeah, that happened to Mason Plumber

0:46:34.120 --> 0:46:35.400
<v Speaker 4>Well time.

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:39.799
<v Speaker 1>Okay to off the autmore interesting. I didn't have them

0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:40.680
<v Speaker 1>on my short list.

0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:45.560
<v Speaker 3>I wonder if anywhere, like, oh no, I think there's one.

0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:47.239
<v Speaker 1>That I'm like, one of you is going to take.

0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I am going with, well, our best player of the bunch,

0:46:51.080 --> 0:46:54.680
<v Speaker 1>no offense to George Carter or Mason Plumbley. I'm going

0:46:54.840 --> 0:46:56.879
<v Speaker 1>for my worst NBA n name, my number one pick.

0:46:57.080 --> 0:47:02.239
<v Speaker 1>Marii Stodameer's stat that's a horrible nickname. Now it's an

0:47:02.239 --> 0:47:06.400
<v Speaker 1>acronym for standing tall and talented.

0:47:06.120 --> 0:47:09.640
<v Speaker 3>Which I think makes it worse. It was just stat.

0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:11.440
<v Speaker 1>You're like, oh, does he just fill a box score?

0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:13.560
<v Speaker 1>That's what it's about. That's cool, big number.

0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:14.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's not bad.

0:47:15.239 --> 0:47:19.520
<v Speaker 1>No, standing tall and talented. It's a self given nickname.

0:47:19.960 --> 0:47:22.440
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing. I think he's got it tattooed on

0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:25.480
<v Speaker 1>his arm. It's how he used to be addressed by

0:47:25.520 --> 0:47:28.359
<v Speaker 1>everyone around. Yeah, Stat, what's up? Stat? And again, that's

0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:30.239
<v Speaker 1>not bad. But when you know what it stands for,

0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:33.160
<v Speaker 1>I guess the standing tall. Like he's only six' ten

0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:37.759
<v Speaker 1>now tall among common. Folk is that tall in THE nba? World,

0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:40.440
<v Speaker 1>YEAH i guess it's. Close but still it's more about

0:47:40.760 --> 0:47:43.520
<v Speaker 1>proud and. CONFIDENCE i think that's the standing.

0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Tall never caught on and never Got and you know.

0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:47.600
<v Speaker 3>WHAT i hate about? It Like.

0:47:48.320 --> 0:47:52.319
<v Speaker 1>Amari first, Off amari is an awesome, name, right even

0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:53.840
<v Speaker 1>when he changed the spelling of it a couple of

0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:56.319
<v Speaker 1>times where we were putting the apostophe and if it

0:47:56.320 --> 0:47:58.319
<v Speaker 1>was in there and all, That but like he was

0:47:58.360 --> 0:48:03.759
<v Speaker 1>a super natural role, Athlete like this guy was in

0:48:03.840 --> 0:48:05.959
<v Speaker 1>a league full of. Athletes he's like on another. Level,

0:48:06.000 --> 0:48:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Right so it just like didn't really ever work for,

0:48:08.560 --> 0:48:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Him SO i don't like. It Stats i'm with, You,

0:48:12.239 --> 0:48:12.680
<v Speaker 1>okay he.

0:48:12.719 --> 0:48:16.680
<v Speaker 3>DOESN'T i mean they also list The Little tyrant And

0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:19.279
<v Speaker 3>Little lord for, him SO i mean that's WHAT i.

0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:22.879
<v Speaker 3>Know those are all.

0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:26.279
<v Speaker 4>Bad he goes from standing tall to being. Little you,

0:48:26.320 --> 0:48:27.640
<v Speaker 4>know he didn't have.

0:48:27.640 --> 0:48:29.840
<v Speaker 1>One he didn't have a good, one, no which is

0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:33.040
<v Speaker 1>weird to me because it's like we compare him like

0:48:33.160 --> 0:48:35.560
<v Speaker 1>To sean camp right at the. TIME i, mean he's

0:48:35.560 --> 0:48:37.359
<v Speaker 1>got one of the coolest nicknames of all, time right,

0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Man like what we couldn't come up with anything From marit.

0:48:40.120 --> 0:48:45.959
<v Speaker 4>But but we've likened his career To Blake. Griffin's blake

0:48:46.000 --> 0:48:48.160
<v Speaker 4>doesn't have one. Either What's Blake griffin's?

0:48:48.200 --> 0:48:52.880
<v Speaker 3>Nickname he, literally he literally doesn't.

0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Have one on basketball.

0:48:53.440 --> 0:48:55.479
<v Speaker 3>Reference he doesn't have even a bad. One that's.

0:48:55.520 --> 0:48:58.279
<v Speaker 4>Surprising that is because He's Blake. Griffin you think there'd

0:48:58.280 --> 0:49:03.640
<v Speaker 4>be something out. There, OKAY i got, Weird, great all.

0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:05.840
<v Speaker 3>Right try back to. You all, right this is a

0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:08.160
<v Speaker 3>guy you maybe have heard, Of Bobby. Simmons you guys

0:49:08.160 --> 0:49:08.760
<v Speaker 3>Remember Bobby.

0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:11.759
<v Speaker 1>Simmons oh, yeah, Yeah, Bill i'm trying to rack my

0:49:11.800 --> 0:49:12.839
<v Speaker 1>brain what it? Is good.

0:49:12.920 --> 0:49:16.800
<v Speaker 3>Luck two thousand and one to twenty, Twelve Bobby simmons.

0:49:16.840 --> 0:49:19.560
<v Speaker 3>Played he was the twenty two thousand and four five

0:49:19.680 --> 0:49:25.040
<v Speaker 3>most improved, player A chicago. Legend his nickname Is Chinese.

0:49:25.040 --> 0:49:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Food wanted a, Lot yeah food once.

0:49:32.040 --> 0:49:34.799
<v Speaker 3>You would think, That but it turns out that When

0:49:34.880 --> 0:49:38.120
<v Speaker 3>Bobby simmons was playing for The, clippers and prior to

0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:42.040
<v Speaker 3>the two thousand and three four, Season clippers were going

0:49:42.120 --> 0:49:44.400
<v Speaker 3>to be playing in an international game against The Seattle,

0:49:44.400 --> 0:49:48.359
<v Speaker 3>SuperSonics they were going to be playing In, tokyo and

0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:51.200
<v Speaker 3>they said what do you what do you think about

0:49:51.360 --> 0:49:54.200
<v Speaker 3>going to play In? Tokio And Bobby simmons, SAYS i

0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:58.840
<v Speaker 3>don't Like chinese. Food now his nickname Is Chinese, food.

0:50:02.200 --> 0:50:04.520
<v Speaker 1>So this has to be a nickname that other teammates

0:50:05.280 --> 0:50:10.920
<v Speaker 1>aside to. Him, right, wow you're on my, Team, Bobby Chinese,

0:50:10.920 --> 0:50:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Food chinese very. Good, okay that's a good, One Bobby.

0:50:13.760 --> 0:50:16.760
<v Speaker 1>SIMMONS i forgot he won an. Award here's a good. Player,

0:50:16.800 --> 0:50:18.000
<v Speaker 1>yeah it was all, Right it's.

0:50:18.040 --> 0:50:20.080
<v Speaker 3>OKAY i feel like he was like on the edges

0:50:20.080 --> 0:50:23.440
<v Speaker 3>Of All star conversations at some. Point, maybe oh, wow,

0:50:23.520 --> 0:50:29.000
<v Speaker 3>Really Bobby. Simmons maybe, okay that's sixteen six and three maybe?

0:50:29.320 --> 0:50:35.160
<v Speaker 1>Four, yeah, Okay chinese food is Got chinese? Food what

0:50:35.200 --> 0:50:35.520
<v Speaker 1>do you got?

0:50:35.600 --> 0:50:39.600
<v Speaker 4>Tests i'm going with another big name, Player Tyre's haliburton's the.

0:50:39.719 --> 0:50:42.560
<v Speaker 2>MOMENT i hate it as a. Nickla oh you don't like?

0:50:42.600 --> 0:50:46.040
<v Speaker 2>It here comes the moments down the. Floor you can't

0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:47.560
<v Speaker 2>address him by that.

0:50:47.680 --> 0:50:51.320
<v Speaker 4>Nickname no you, can't you know if you're sitting down and, saying,

0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:55.560
<v Speaker 4>Okay Tyres haliburn had some. Moments here is the moment

0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:57.480
<v Speaker 4>that he did against The New York nickson round. One,

0:50:57.520 --> 0:50:58.560
<v Speaker 4>okay would you say it that?

0:50:58.600 --> 0:51:00.120
<v Speaker 1>Way got cool, Moments.

0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:03.960
<v Speaker 4>But when it comes to actually addressing, him actually talking

0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:07.080
<v Speaker 4>about basketball in a sense that that's what you would call,

0:51:07.160 --> 0:51:11.440
<v Speaker 4>him not even. Close it's just not. Good so, yeah they.

0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:13.280
<v Speaker 4>MISSED i understand.

0:51:12.920 --> 0:51:16.920
<v Speaker 2>The and then a cool word but the, answer, yeah but,

0:51:17.120 --> 0:51:19.439
<v Speaker 2>nah you know this as?

0:51:20.400 --> 0:51:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Well is it better or worse than him A, burton

0:51:25.000 --> 0:51:29.440
<v Speaker 1>which is also asball, reference he is, him Not hallie

0:51:30.120 --> 0:51:34.520
<v Speaker 1>him A. Burton that's that might be worse than the,

0:51:34.560 --> 0:51:35.839
<v Speaker 1>moment but they're both pretty.

0:51:35.880 --> 0:51:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Bad but that was, yeah an, era an? Era is it?

0:51:38.520 --> 0:51:41.200
<v Speaker 4>OVER i don't know where everybody started Saying i'm. Him,

0:51:41.360 --> 0:51:42.640
<v Speaker 4>yeah oh, yeah and So.

0:51:43.320 --> 0:51:46.399
<v Speaker 1>I've got another potential him on my. List, actually Maybe

0:51:46.400 --> 0:51:48.319
<v Speaker 1>i'll just take him right now BECAUSE i hate all

0:51:48.360 --> 0:51:53.200
<v Speaker 1>of his, Nicknames Josh, giddy Good, Him Ithy, Salome.

0:51:55.160 --> 0:51:55.680
<v Speaker 3>Wizard Of.

0:51:55.719 --> 0:51:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Oz, okay The australian connection, there that's not that's probably

0:51:59.160 --> 0:52:04.279
<v Speaker 1>the least offense of vanilla. Magic and then my real

0:52:04.360 --> 0:52:10.560
<v Speaker 1>answer here For Josh kitty Slob. Wizard, yeah, now now

0:52:10.640 --> 0:52:13.319
<v Speaker 1>that's a HULLANDRO i BELIEVE i think he came up with.

0:52:13.360 --> 0:52:17.759
<v Speaker 1>It Slob, wizard uh sidelines out of bounds. Wizard he's

0:52:17.880 --> 0:52:21.959
<v Speaker 1>very good at these plays and great, playmaker but ununfortunate,

0:52:22.040 --> 0:52:24.719
<v Speaker 1>nickname especially with other things that were then happening around

0:52:24.760 --> 0:52:27.439
<v Speaker 1>the same time With Josh gitty in the. News Slow

0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:29.560
<v Speaker 1>wizard is. Bad do we have A t shirt with?

0:52:29.600 --> 0:52:29.719
<v Speaker 3>It?

0:52:29.840 --> 0:52:32.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah we, Do, YEAH i own.

0:52:32.440 --> 0:52:34.000
<v Speaker 3>One yeah it's a house.

0:52:34.000 --> 0:52:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Shirt.

0:52:34.320 --> 0:52:34.680
<v Speaker 4>YEAH i.

0:52:34.719 --> 0:52:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Know you can't wear a Slow wizard you dirty.

0:52:38.560 --> 0:52:43.400
<v Speaker 3>Ding that's the equivalent to a dirty.

0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Shirt for.

0:52:44.280 --> 0:52:46.799
<v Speaker 3>Sure i'll Go Josh. KITTY i don't like any of,

0:52:46.800 --> 0:52:47.440
<v Speaker 3>those but.

0:52:47.440 --> 0:52:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Really Slow, WIZARD a Slow wizard is my selection that takes.

0:52:51.560 --> 0:52:53.200
<v Speaker 2>It, yeah all of them are.

0:52:53.320 --> 0:52:57.320
<v Speaker 4>Questionable, Yeah, okay round.

0:52:57.480 --> 0:52:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Three back to T.

0:52:59.000 --> 0:53:02.520
<v Speaker 3>K i'm going with the classic nickname, here a classic

0:53:02.600 --> 0:53:06.480
<v Speaker 3>bad nickname or a good, nickname but more of an insulting.

0:53:07.040 --> 0:53:09.320
<v Speaker 3>Nickname this one comes to us from the nineteen. Nineties

0:53:09.320 --> 0:53:12.160
<v Speaker 3>it comes to us from here In. Atlanta i'm going

0:53:12.239 --> 0:53:15.920
<v Speaker 3>With John concact Aka John. CONTRACT i had.

0:53:15.800 --> 0:53:16.839
<v Speaker 1>This on my short. List that's.

0:53:16.840 --> 0:53:19.480
<v Speaker 3>Awesome, yeah it's awesome to be known for signing a

0:53:19.560 --> 0:53:22.359
<v Speaker 3>legendarily bad deal and they just call you A John

0:53:22.440 --> 0:53:25.920
<v Speaker 3>contract for the rest of your. Life because he had

0:53:25.960 --> 0:53:28.919
<v Speaker 3>the temerity to sign a two point two million dollar

0:53:29.400 --> 0:53:33.040
<v Speaker 3>deal in nineteen eighty. Nine like he's making less than

0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:35.239
<v Speaker 3>the veteran minimum, now but it was a ton of

0:53:35.280 --> 0:53:38.960
<v Speaker 3>money back then For John, concak who didn't really ever

0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:41.520
<v Speaker 3>do anything in THE. Nba what do you think his

0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:43.160
<v Speaker 3>career high in points per game?

0:53:43.280 --> 0:53:45.560
<v Speaker 1>WAS i can't imagine he scored over? Ten so.

0:53:45.680 --> 0:53:45.839
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:53:46.320 --> 0:53:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Eight?

0:53:46.719 --> 0:53:49.600
<v Speaker 3>Seven, yeah, yeah this must have been his rookie. Year

0:53:49.600 --> 0:53:53.040
<v Speaker 3>it looks like went for eight and six mostly off the.

0:53:53.040 --> 0:53:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Bench strong start.

0:53:54.400 --> 0:53:57.000
<v Speaker 3>For The hawks. There So John, contract you're on my.

0:53:57.080 --> 0:54:02.160
<v Speaker 3>Team that's pretty because that's.

0:54:02.000 --> 0:54:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Such a good.

0:54:02.520 --> 0:54:05.640
<v Speaker 4>NICKNAME i, thought WAS i creating the contract that he

0:54:05.800 --> 0:54:08.760
<v Speaker 4>actually ended up signing BECAUSE i remembered him being multiple

0:54:08.840 --> 0:54:12.359
<v Speaker 4>years bigger. Number yeah that is let me see six

0:54:12.400 --> 0:54:16.960
<v Speaker 4>YEARS i, google but six years, Thirteen milt.

0:54:17.920 --> 0:54:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Amazing that's great for.

0:54:19.239 --> 0:54:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Him what it's a good, nickname, man.

0:54:21.080 --> 0:54:24.319
<v Speaker 3>He, Says what WAS i supposed to? Do? Say, no, yeah,

0:54:24.400 --> 0:54:26.440
<v Speaker 3>man you're. Right, great they're offering.

0:54:26.440 --> 0:54:29.279
<v Speaker 1>It, oh what's the worst is going to? Happen weird?

0:54:29.360 --> 0:54:32.239
<v Speaker 1>Nickname put on my. Basket that's a good. ONE i

0:54:32.280 --> 0:54:33.680
<v Speaker 1>got thirteen million. Dollars do you THINK i?

0:54:33.760 --> 0:54:36.680
<v Speaker 4>Care we could easily have a draft of the best.

0:54:36.760 --> 0:54:39.480
<v Speaker 4>Nicknames AND i think that you like this. One, yeah

0:54:40.080 --> 0:54:41.919
<v Speaker 4>you're known for something of the rest of your life

0:54:41.960 --> 0:54:43.400
<v Speaker 4>instead of just Being John.

0:54:44.840 --> 0:54:48.200
<v Speaker 3>True it's a simple first, thing all, Right where you?

0:54:48.280 --> 0:54:51.120
<v Speaker 4>GOING i like going with big name. Guys and, UH

0:54:51.480 --> 0:54:56.239
<v Speaker 4>i Think Ason kid For Jason kidd because he didn't have.

0:54:57.080 --> 0:54:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Insulting it's.

0:54:58.080 --> 0:55:00.640
<v Speaker 4>Insulting, OKAY i understand at the beginning year your, career

0:55:00.680 --> 0:55:04.719
<v Speaker 4>you're not a. Shooter it's a funny nickname dropped To.

0:55:04.800 --> 0:55:07.960
<v Speaker 4>Chase his name's. Asen but when he developed a, shot

0:55:08.080 --> 0:55:10.400
<v Speaker 4>you could take that off basketball, reference just remove.

0:55:10.440 --> 0:55:11.200
<v Speaker 3>It let's grow.

0:55:11.320 --> 0:55:14.960
<v Speaker 4>Up let's let's say what we got to. Say about this.

0:55:15.000 --> 0:55:18.480
<v Speaker 4>Guy he had A jay later in his. Career, definitely

0:55:18.560 --> 0:55:21.840
<v Speaker 4>So ason sex to BE u for you.

0:55:21.880 --> 0:55:24.320
<v Speaker 2>Know but, anyway As.

0:55:24.560 --> 0:55:28.920
<v Speaker 3>Ason kid is a good like slander nickname handle of its.

0:55:29.000 --> 0:55:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Day oh, yeah all, Right i'm gonna go with my

0:55:32.520 --> 0:55:34.279
<v Speaker 1>most obscure player here BECAUSE i have A mari And

0:55:34.360 --> 0:55:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Josh kitty obviously everybody knows. Them but give me a

0:55:37.120 --> 0:55:41.560
<v Speaker 1>guy Named Carson. Edwards you, know fairly. Recent you, Know

0:55:41.600 --> 0:55:43.359
<v Speaker 1>i'm not going back to the seventies. Here if you don't,

0:55:43.360 --> 0:55:45.480
<v Speaker 1>remember he's a two Time All. American he was selected

0:55:45.520 --> 0:55:48.440
<v Speaker 1>thirty third overall in the twenty nine draft by The.

0:55:48.480 --> 0:55:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Celtics played a total of seventy two games in THE

0:55:50.960 --> 0:55:54.759
<v Speaker 1>nba before WHAT i can, tell having a very successful international.

0:55:54.800 --> 0:55:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Career he's bounced around, internationally but he's playing and sure

0:55:58.080 --> 0:56:02.279
<v Speaker 1>making some. Money but one Of Carson edwards nicknames was

0:56:02.360 --> 0:56:06.640
<v Speaker 1>just the name of an older player he reminded people.

0:56:06.640 --> 0:56:08.080
<v Speaker 1>Of his nickname Was Eddie.

0:56:08.080 --> 0:56:16.640
<v Speaker 3>House this is insane to, me surprising NOW i see the. Similarities.

0:56:16.719 --> 0:56:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Again you probably don't remember much Of. Carson he was

0:56:19.040 --> 0:56:21.439
<v Speaker 1>a small. Guy he was like five to. Eleven Eddie

0:56:21.440 --> 0:56:23.560
<v Speaker 1>house wasn't much. Bigger he's probably listed at six to

0:56:23.640 --> 0:56:25.919
<v Speaker 1>one or, something but he's like basically six foot. Guy

0:56:27.200 --> 0:56:30.120
<v Speaker 1>but just to have a just to have a nickname

0:56:30.160 --> 0:56:33.680
<v Speaker 1>of some other guy that people just reminded you. Of you're, like, oh,

0:56:33.719 --> 0:56:35.439
<v Speaker 1>yeah you played Like Eddie. House we're gonna call You Eddie.

0:56:35.440 --> 0:56:41.000
<v Speaker 1>House it's so offensive to me for some reason called

0:56:41.000 --> 0:56:45.120
<v Speaker 1>dirty dingis please and there Was i'm doing a little.

0:56:45.120 --> 0:56:47.800
<v Speaker 1>RESEARCH i saw this On celtics blog obviously a long

0:56:47.880 --> 0:56:53.920
<v Speaker 1>time Fantastic celtics blog, somebody Because Carson edwards had like

0:56:54.239 --> 0:56:59.840
<v Speaker 1>ludicrously muscular, thighs like he had huge thighs and like

0:56:59.840 --> 0:57:01.920
<v Speaker 1>a rely like his shorts were like a, problem like

0:57:01.960 --> 0:57:04.520
<v Speaker 1>they were too. Tight people wanted to call him meat

0:57:04.560 --> 0:57:09.000
<v Speaker 1>buckets because he was a good scorer and those big

0:57:09.040 --> 0:57:14.480
<v Speaker 1>old hamhock. Thighs so that's, better still, worse we're still

0:57:14.520 --> 0:57:18.919
<v Speaker 1>bad meat. Buckets but instead he's just Called Eddie. House

0:57:18.920 --> 0:57:20.760
<v Speaker 1>and that's On basketball the. Front So i'm Going Eddie

0:57:20.800 --> 0:57:23.560
<v Speaker 1>house For Carson. Edwards it's my most obscure.

0:57:23.600 --> 0:57:33.520
<v Speaker 3>Pick my kids have taken to call in my legs

0:57:33.560 --> 0:57:38.360
<v Speaker 3>sweaty meat. Logs SHOULD i be? OFFENDED i came up with,

0:57:38.400 --> 0:57:41.280
<v Speaker 3>it but its liked my basketball.

0:57:40.840 --> 0:57:45.080
<v Speaker 4>Referencing sweaty as thick as meat buckets.

0:57:46.200 --> 0:57:48.720
<v Speaker 3>Legs, yeah.

0:57:50.720 --> 0:57:52.560
<v Speaker 1>You like slim jimsy.

0:57:55.640 --> 0:57:55.760
<v Speaker 4>Very.

0:57:55.880 --> 0:57:58.320
<v Speaker 3>Much fourth, ROUND a couple more rounds of. This, wow

0:57:58.400 --> 0:58:01.320
<v Speaker 3>this is tough. MAN a lot of nicknames on the.

0:58:01.320 --> 0:58:03.680
<v Speaker 3>BOARD i got three THAT i really, like and they're

0:58:03.720 --> 0:58:07.240
<v Speaker 3>all guys that basically you've never heard. Of i'm going

0:58:07.240 --> 0:58:10.880
<v Speaker 3>With Dennis. Autry Who's Dennis? Autry, yeah. Exactly he played

0:58:10.880 --> 0:58:13.080
<v Speaker 3>seven hundred and thirty THREE nba, games so he played

0:58:13.120 --> 0:58:16.479
<v Speaker 3>for a long. Time he's got a nineteen seventy NINE nba.

0:58:16.600 --> 0:58:17.920
<v Speaker 3>Championship who would have that been?

0:58:17.960 --> 0:58:24.000
<v Speaker 1>With who was seventy Three seattle super so.

0:58:23.000 --> 0:58:25.600
<v Speaker 3>Went To Seattle. SuperSonics i didn't do research into why

0:58:25.680 --> 0:58:28.760
<v Speaker 3>they called him, this but, Uh Dennis awtry's nickname is moose.

0:58:28.520 --> 0:58:36.760
<v Speaker 6>Bread, Tough, yes Stinky, yeah, yes one day had stinky

0:58:36.800 --> 0:58:39.480
<v Speaker 6>breadth not forever you're a moose.

0:58:39.520 --> 0:58:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Breath that's really the best, nickname like you, know like

0:58:43.120 --> 0:58:44.160
<v Speaker 1>that's like a school, nickname.

0:58:44.240 --> 0:58:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:58:45.320 --> 0:58:49.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah is This Steaky pete THAT i knew a? GUY i, mean.

0:58:48.960 --> 0:58:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately for, him he was stinky and his name Was.

0:58:52.360 --> 0:58:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Pete it was Sneaky pete from there, On Sneaky.

0:58:54.160 --> 0:58:57.840
<v Speaker 3>Pete this guy came in after eating moose one, Day,

0:58:57.920 --> 0:59:01.479
<v Speaker 3>like all, right loose, bro we saw that woman wearing

0:59:01.520 --> 0:59:03.320
<v Speaker 3>a tall hat once we call their tall. Hat the

0:59:03.360 --> 0:59:06.439
<v Speaker 3>rest of the exactly moose, bread tough.

0:59:06.440 --> 0:59:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Stuff oh, yeah we're the kings of those type of.

0:59:09.440 --> 0:59:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Nicknames moose. Breath, wow you ever had?

0:59:13.680 --> 0:59:13.919
<v Speaker 3>Moose?

0:59:14.000 --> 0:59:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Anybody? Ever do you seem any moose when you're a?

0:59:16.680 --> 0:59:17.240
<v Speaker 3>Yellowstone?

0:59:17.400 --> 0:59:21.920
<v Speaker 4>No saw animals that look like? Moose he has question

0:59:22.440 --> 0:59:26.400
<v Speaker 4>some of these. EMUs there's there's there are mule there

0:59:26.560 --> 0:59:29.600
<v Speaker 4>animals called mule. Deers, oh never heard of?

0:59:29.600 --> 0:59:30.520
<v Speaker 1>That are they?

0:59:30.640 --> 0:59:34.280
<v Speaker 4>Large you can, think you can think that they're? Mood

0:59:34.600 --> 0:59:37.040
<v Speaker 4>not quite a moose for, You, yeah not quite a.

0:59:37.080 --> 0:59:37.959
<v Speaker 3>Moose it's got weird.

0:59:38.000 --> 0:59:38.240
<v Speaker 2>Ears.

0:59:38.320 --> 0:59:42.200
<v Speaker 3>Huh nice coold moose.

0:59:42.240 --> 0:59:43.360
<v Speaker 2>Bread never seen, him moose.

0:59:43.400 --> 0:59:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Breath Dennis Autry is he a one name nickname guy

0:59:47.000 --> 0:59:48.880
<v Speaker 1>On Basketball? Reference or oh, no he's got a lot

0:59:49.240 --> 0:59:51.919
<v Speaker 1>what else? Tree he's tall six, ten two thirty. Five

0:59:52.000 --> 0:59:54.120
<v Speaker 1>dennis The menace and harpo.

0:59:55.560 --> 0:59:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Harp what's up with this? Guy? Yeah this?

0:59:58.880 --> 1:00:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Guy, yeah all, right tass your fourth.

1:00:01.560 --> 1:00:08.040
<v Speaker 4>Pick another big name guy, Here tracey, McGrady The Big.

1:00:08.080 --> 1:00:14.720
<v Speaker 4>Sleep you, KNOW i Guess i'm just against these pejorative.

1:00:14.800 --> 1:00:18.280
<v Speaker 4>Nicknames that's not. Nice it's not nice to call this

1:00:18.320 --> 1:00:20.360
<v Speaker 4>guy The Big. Sleep, now he did kind of have sleepy,

1:00:20.360 --> 1:00:23.320
<v Speaker 4>eyes or he still, does, definitely but you, know one

1:00:23.360 --> 1:00:24.320
<v Speaker 4>of the best scores of the.

1:00:24.360 --> 1:00:26.400
<v Speaker 2>Game call him The Big.

1:00:26.440 --> 1:00:30.920
<v Speaker 4>Sleep you don't really you think of him having sleepy

1:00:30.960 --> 1:00:34.320
<v Speaker 4>eyes when he's off the, court, really you, know like not,

1:00:34.360 --> 1:00:34.880
<v Speaker 4>REALLY i don't.

1:00:34.920 --> 1:00:38.320
<v Speaker 3>Know his eyes were usually. Open but wasn't he like

1:00:38.360 --> 1:00:40.560
<v Speaker 3>one of the early guys to be, like, YEAH i

1:00:40.600 --> 1:00:41.840
<v Speaker 3>love taking a, pregame.

1:00:41.560 --> 1:00:43.000
<v Speaker 1>MAT i think, So i'm not.

1:00:43.040 --> 1:00:45.840
<v Speaker 3>Sure still The Big sleep is.

1:00:46.240 --> 1:00:50.040
<v Speaker 2>Funny, yeah all, right maybe maybe it's growing on.

1:00:50.120 --> 1:00:54.360
<v Speaker 4>Me but T mac The Big, sleep it's just T

1:00:54.520 --> 1:00:57.560
<v Speaker 4>mac is the, one the only one you remember him.

1:00:57.560 --> 1:00:59.720
<v Speaker 2>As he's too good to have more than.

1:00:59.760 --> 1:01:04.800
<v Speaker 1>One really my fourth, PICK i Guess i'll go with this.

1:01:04.840 --> 1:01:10.280
<v Speaker 1>One markel. Faults how did a? Nickname, yeah you probably you're, like,

1:01:10.320 --> 1:01:11.880
<v Speaker 1>well you're, right you're racking your brain right. Now you're,

1:01:11.920 --> 1:01:12.800
<v Speaker 1>like what was his? Nickname?

1:01:13.480 --> 1:01:16.120
<v Speaker 3>Quickwash what quick?

1:01:16.320 --> 1:01:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Wash Justin anderson did? It former. Teammate he called him

1:01:20.680 --> 1:01:25.640
<v Speaker 1>quickwash because of his uh, faults his, SIGNATURE i, guess

1:01:25.760 --> 1:01:30.640
<v Speaker 1>very fast spin. Move so they called Him. Quickwash, okay

1:01:31.720 --> 1:01:34.200
<v Speaker 1>but it's UNFORTUNATE i think for a guy Like falls

1:01:34.200 --> 1:01:37.480
<v Speaker 1>who then had a rough career and fell off and you,

1:01:37.480 --> 1:01:40.240
<v Speaker 1>know seemingly forgot how to shoot a, basketball and then

1:01:40.360 --> 1:01:44.920
<v Speaker 1>like you're, like, oh he's. Washed so that's where my

1:01:45.040 --> 1:01:48.200
<v Speaker 1>mind immediately. Goes but it's actually about a signature, move

1:01:48.720 --> 1:01:51.080
<v Speaker 1>WHICH i guess he was pretty good at. THIS i

1:01:51.120 --> 1:01:54.280
<v Speaker 1>don't really think of him like, that but Obviously anderson

1:01:54.280 --> 1:01:57.520
<v Speaker 1>saw something coined the. Moniker BUT i think it's not.

1:01:57.960 --> 1:02:00.600
<v Speaker 1>GREAT i just also don't doesn't sound good. Either there

1:02:00.600 --> 1:02:01.080
<v Speaker 1>it goes quick.

1:02:01.240 --> 1:02:04.680
<v Speaker 3>Wash maybe maybe it could have lasted if he wasn't

1:02:04.760 --> 1:02:06.920
<v Speaker 3>quickly washed exactly part of the.

1:02:06.960 --> 1:02:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Problem.

1:02:08.800 --> 1:02:12.000
<v Speaker 4>Tough, yeah it seemed Like Justin anderson was just trying

1:02:12.040 --> 1:02:16.320
<v Speaker 4>to be. Smart you know he took the spin, cycle

1:02:16.560 --> 1:02:16.720
<v Speaker 4>you know.

1:02:16.760 --> 1:02:21.120
<v Speaker 1>That, yeah he was trying to get creative with. It

1:02:21.600 --> 1:02:24.400
<v Speaker 1>but then you're also, like what does this guy shower

1:02:24.480 --> 1:02:25.800
<v Speaker 1>for like eight seconds after a.

1:02:25.840 --> 1:02:29.840
<v Speaker 3>Game he's in and, out always ready to do. Media,

1:02:32.080 --> 1:02:32.640
<v Speaker 3>uh so.

1:02:32.680 --> 1:02:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Quick, WASH i WROTE i wrote an elevator With Markel folts. Once, okay, yep,

1:02:38.360 --> 1:02:43.440
<v Speaker 1>yeah that's my story. Clean, yeah he was.

1:02:43.680 --> 1:02:46.600
<v Speaker 3>FRIENDLIES i was ever on an elevator with no dirty

1:02:46.680 --> 1:02:48.840
<v Speaker 3>dingus on market quick.

1:02:49.040 --> 1:02:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Wash all, right one more round of bad.

1:02:51.520 --> 1:02:55.480
<v Speaker 3>Nicknames oh, GOOD i got MY i got two last

1:02:55.520 --> 1:02:58.520
<v Speaker 3>Guys i'm interested. In i'll give a shout out To Tony,

1:02:58.560 --> 1:03:03.480
<v Speaker 3>campbell whose nickname Is. Blumpy not taking him, Though, Sorry,

1:03:03.520 --> 1:03:07.760
<v Speaker 3>Tony i'm going for A Sacramento. King his name Was Dwyane.

1:03:07.920 --> 1:03:08.560
<v Speaker 2>Causwell.

1:03:08.840 --> 1:03:11.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh he played in the nineties into the two. Thousands

1:03:12.120 --> 1:03:19.440
<v Speaker 3>his nickname the very nineties The, Cosonator Dwyane coswell The,

1:03:19.520 --> 1:03:22.000
<v Speaker 3>cosinator cosinating the.

1:03:22.160 --> 1:03:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Causes The cousinator sounds like a nickname of a buddy

1:03:27.600 --> 1:03:31.320
<v Speaker 1>you went to high school and, specifically, yeah, yeah.

1:03:33.040 --> 1:03:36.480
<v Speaker 3>He's a good. Guy he's got twelve subs in his.

1:03:36.520 --> 1:03:41.640
<v Speaker 3>Trunks twice divorce but good. Guy the good guy never

1:03:41.640 --> 1:03:44.680
<v Speaker 3>got out Of plano. Unfortunately WHAT i really like About

1:03:44.760 --> 1:03:47.440
<v Speaker 3>Dwayne coswell The causinator is there's now a guy on

1:03:47.480 --> 1:03:52.960
<v Speaker 3>The Sacramento kings Named Dylan, cardwell, right aka The Cardinate.

1:03:53.080 --> 1:03:58.720
<v Speaker 3>Cardinator so, yeah give me The. Cousonator AM i influenced

1:03:58.760 --> 1:04:01.600
<v Speaker 3>by my Friend jerry? Whoever but hey calls The? Shrimpinador? Probably,

1:04:02.040 --> 1:04:03.800
<v Speaker 3>yeah but The causonator is it for?

1:04:03.880 --> 1:04:08.439
<v Speaker 1>Me over any? Universe that's, right the. Shrimpinador god just loves.

1:04:08.440 --> 1:04:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Shrimp uh maybe, yeah The coswell just love. Causes, Okay Dwayne,

1:04:16.640 --> 1:04:19.520
<v Speaker 1>coswell that's that's definitely a basketball CARD i hated to.

1:04:19.520 --> 1:04:25.280
<v Speaker 3>Get, yeah, man not another causewell throw that one, up all,

1:04:25.360 --> 1:04:26.880
<v Speaker 3>right toss your last, pick my last.

1:04:26.920 --> 1:04:30.840
<v Speaker 4>Pick It's Damon jones for a couple of. Reasons, first

1:04:32.280 --> 1:04:34.640
<v Speaker 4>has the name of our old Show Basketball. Jones that's

1:04:34.680 --> 1:04:38.440
<v Speaker 4>one of his nick that but more so because his

1:04:38.520 --> 1:04:43.040
<v Speaker 4>second a, nickname best shooter in the. World it's you,

1:04:43.080 --> 1:04:45.760
<v Speaker 4>know it's it's a fine. Nickname but now what he's

1:04:45.800 --> 1:04:49.120
<v Speaker 4>going through legally pleded it, guilty pled guilty In Brooklyn

1:04:49.760 --> 1:04:52.240
<v Speaker 4>Federal court to two counts of conspiracy to commit wire

1:04:52.280 --> 1:04:54.959
<v Speaker 4>fraud On april, twenty twenty twenty, six just doesn't jive.

1:04:55.520 --> 1:04:57.720
<v Speaker 4>Anymore the worst gambler in the world.

1:04:59.200 --> 1:05:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Your nickname At, yeah he.

1:05:02.440 --> 1:05:06.000
<v Speaker 4>Ain't the best, anymore, Unfortunately Damon. Jones so, yeah that's

1:05:06.040 --> 1:05:07.040
<v Speaker 4>why it just none of it.

1:05:07.080 --> 1:05:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Fits the best shooter in the, world.

1:05:09.040 --> 1:05:12.479
<v Speaker 4>Best shooter in the. World, wow literally all of those

1:05:12.880 --> 1:05:16.440
<v Speaker 4>words as one. Nickname it's a. Lot best Dam here

1:05:16.440 --> 1:05:19.280
<v Speaker 4>Comes Damon, jones best shooter in the. World it's a weird.

1:05:19.320 --> 1:05:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Man when did He did he ever have a small

1:05:21.760 --> 1:05:24.160
<v Speaker 1>window where he could actually claim, THAT i mean it

1:05:24.280 --> 1:05:26.520
<v Speaker 1>was a good. Shooter oh, yeah he was for a

1:05:26.520 --> 1:05:29.400
<v Speaker 1>three point. Shooter. Obviously did he ever lead the league

1:05:29.400 --> 1:05:30.400
<v Speaker 1>in three point shoot in the.

1:05:30.440 --> 1:05:35.000
<v Speaker 4>League in effective field goal? Percentage sixty one point one? Percent,

1:05:35.160 --> 1:05:38.640
<v Speaker 4>okay that's pretty. Solid played eighty two games that. Season

1:05:38.640 --> 1:05:41.520
<v Speaker 4>he played a lot of. Games forty from three that.

1:05:41.600 --> 1:05:42.040
<v Speaker 2>Year that's not.

1:05:42.120 --> 1:05:45.560
<v Speaker 4>Bad forty three percent from three while shooting fifty one

1:05:45.640 --> 1:05:49.720
<v Speaker 4>point seven percent from two for a. Guard very. Good

1:05:50.560 --> 1:05:53.600
<v Speaker 4>you know what this guy is the best? Shooter he

1:05:53.840 --> 1:05:54.240
<v Speaker 4>was for one.

1:05:54.280 --> 1:05:59.080
<v Speaker 2>Year it's Actually Damon jones with The Miami. Heat all, Right.

1:05:59.000 --> 1:06:03.400
<v Speaker 1>My final pick worse nicknames On Basketball. REFERENCE i can't

1:06:03.400 --> 1:06:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Believe i'm going to do, this But i'm looking in

1:06:07.240 --> 1:06:12.120
<v Speaker 1>the mirror with this. One, Guys Joe johnson The Armadillo.

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboy that's, right that's a NICKNAME i came up with

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<v Speaker 1>and gave The Joe johnson way back in the Basketball jones.

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<v Speaker 1>Days it somehow got added To Basketball. Reference it's stuck around,

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<v Speaker 1>enough AND i just wanted to pick this one because

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<v Speaker 1>there's a VERY i guess a little weird story that

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<v Speaker 1>goes with it like people are, like why is he

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<v Speaker 1>called The Armadillo? Cowboy LIKE i get you, know you

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<v Speaker 1>see people's tweet that this, day they see it on

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<v Speaker 1>his Bat what the hell is? That do you ever?

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<v Speaker 1>REMEMBER i don't know jd or tasks of WHY i

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<v Speaker 1>called him The Armadillo. COWBOY i cannot. Recall, yeah, YEAH

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<v Speaker 1>i Think i've only shared this. Once, YEAH i definitely

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<v Speaker 1>shared it once way back in the Basketball jones. Day

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<v Speaker 1>but here's what happened of why he got the nickname

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<v Speaker 1>The Armadillo. Cowboy here was my thinking it was a.

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<v Speaker 1>Mistake CUTS i had Watched so this is When Joe

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<v Speaker 1>johnson must have been when he was on The, hawks

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<v Speaker 1>and he was Like, Iso Joe joe?

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<v Speaker 2>Cool?

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<v Speaker 1>Right he was? Cool he was he was very, talented

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<v Speaker 1>he was. Good he was an all. STAR i watched

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<v Speaker 1>a documentary By Spike, jones a short. Documentary it was

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<v Speaker 1>Called armaillo By. MORNING i don't know if you guys

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<v Speaker 1>have seen. It it's like this ninety eight documentary About

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<v Speaker 1>Spike jones following these like two suburban kid kids that

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<v Speaker 1>want to be cowboys and like sort of professional bull,

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<v Speaker 1>riders but. Cowboys and he just follows a day in

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<v Speaker 1>the life of, them and they're, like they're like sort of,

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<v Speaker 1>cool and it's like it was a really cool doc

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<v Speaker 1>AND i was trying to say The armarillo, cowboy and

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<v Speaker 1>that was the link from this these cool sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like doc and kids THAT i saw on this thing

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<v Speaker 1>To Iso Joe joe. Cool that was WHAT i was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking WHEN i said it on this podcast back and

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<v Speaker 1>in the. Day BUT i of course screwed it up

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<v Speaker 1>and said The Armadillo, cowboy not The armarillo.

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<v Speaker 3>Cowboy and that's how we got to.

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<v Speaker 1>It so that's how he now has The Armadillo, cowboy

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<v Speaker 1>and it just. Stuck that's good because it was definitely somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>said and you were like what AND i couldn't you,

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<v Speaker 1>KNOW i couldn't correct. Myself, yeah. EXACTLY i was, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what maybe it does sound better in a weird. Way,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah especially nickname though you.

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<v Speaker 3>Wouldn't think, it but we do have armadillos In, atlanta

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<v Speaker 3>like you'll see you'll see it on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Road you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Right unbelievable to, ME i thought they were exclusively A southwestern,

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<v Speaker 3>creature but they're apparently here in The southeast as, well

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<v Speaker 3>just Like Joe johnson, was but he played In phoenix.

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<v Speaker 1>Too he played In phoenix. TOO a lot of. Arms

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<v Speaker 1>where is he?

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<v Speaker 3>From?

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<v Speaker 2>To is He?

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<v Speaker 3>Arkansas In? Arkansas?

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<v Speaker 1>Man do they Have armadillos In?

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<v Speaker 3>Arkansas i'm only familiar with, Twos.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how we got. There so, yeah he's got he's

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<v Speaker 1>got good. ONES i Saw, Joe joe, cool big Shot.

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<v Speaker 1>JOE i think it's. Fine you, know it's a classic

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<v Speaker 1>for a bunch of. Guys but, uh and then it

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<v Speaker 1>just says armadillo, cowboy AND i love that so. Much

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<v Speaker 1>so there you. Go it's a dumb ass nickname and

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<v Speaker 1>it was a. Mistake and, uh the only THING i

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<v Speaker 1>would suggest is Watch armarillo by. Morning i'm sure it's

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<v Speaker 1>online By Spike jones ninety eight. Documentary. Great there it

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<v Speaker 1>is fifteen of the WORST nba. Nicknames there are thousands.

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<v Speaker 1>Left you tell us what we, missed what should have been.

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<v Speaker 1>Drafted let us know in the. Comments i'm sure the

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<v Speaker 1>stream team probably is sharing a bunch right.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they're not necessarily going in on, it but they surely.

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<v Speaker 3>Will AND i, mean there's so many bad. Ones we

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<v Speaker 3>could easily do this. Again one that stuck out to

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<v Speaker 3>me Was james One. Cotton his nickname was one hundred.

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<v Speaker 3>Percent that was, Great that was.

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<v Speaker 1>Good, yeah just the.

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<v Speaker 3>Fabric there's some bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Ones there are some very bad. Ones i'm always surprised

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<v Speaker 1>That leelis never got the donk up there For Luka

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<v Speaker 1>dauncic on his.

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<v Speaker 3>Because he's got a.

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<v Speaker 1>Million, yeah and that would be, fun something fun too

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<v Speaker 1>to go through and see who has the most nicknames Basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>reference Because luca has won, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,

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<v Speaker 1>nine ten are on. There, Wow lebron's got a.

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<v Speaker 3>Lot Darryl dawkins would have a.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot, yeah, yeah coach has. Eight.

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<v Speaker 1>WOW i was just who coached The croatian, sensation the.

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<v Speaker 1>Waiter those are the.

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<v Speaker 3>TWO i had a massive document of a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>things that cross. Over there was like sixty six players

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<v Speaker 3>that had mister listed in their, nickname Including Jose, calderon Mister,

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<v Speaker 3>caterine mister mister.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't Doesn't DeRozan have a MISTER i AM i Am.

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<v Speaker 3>Toronto there's a couple of guys who are just Mister Keith.

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<v Speaker 4>Jennings Mister Michael jordan has Twelve, okay so On jordan

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<v Speaker 4>has twelve and he has one THAT i IF i

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<v Speaker 4>If i'm trying to remember that somebody's name Is, MIKE

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<v Speaker 4>i Use Magic mike as a nick, name which, is you,

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<v Speaker 4>know something That Michael jordan apparently has and something That

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<v Speaker 4>Channing tan was really good at Being Magic.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike that's, true that's.

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<v Speaker 3>True all, right we'll call it.

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<v Speaker 1>There here for a Random wednesday show talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>best free agents left on the, Board Draymond green got

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<v Speaker 1>in a Little lebron To philly talk because that was

1:11:16.600 --> 1:11:18.479
<v Speaker 1>my first time talking about it with you. Guys and

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<v Speaker 1>then the WORST nba nicknames want to hear? Yours check

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<v Speaker 1>out the basketball reference pages and find the WORST nba

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<v Speaker 1>nickname in your. Mind let us know in the comments.

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<v Speaker 1>BELOW i think you guys addressed this late last, week

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<v Speaker 1>but the movie poll results are in and we know

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<v Speaker 1>we are Doing pirates of The. Caribbean congrats TO U

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<v Speaker 1>tasks on your movie franchise coming. THROUGH i was always

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<v Speaker 1>confident was going to be Either Indiana jones Or, pirates

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<v Speaker 1>And india was leading early and then The pirates' heads

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<v Speaker 1>came out and voted him backed that. One so can

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<v Speaker 1>you remind me how many movies are in that? Franchise

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<v Speaker 1>just The, fivero happy to, Hear happy to. Hear so

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<v Speaker 1>we got to start recording, these watching these and then

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<v Speaker 1>reviewing these and talking about. THESE i think it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a fun, pick THOUGH i. WAS i was

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<v Speaker 1>happy with the people come through forty percent of. Them oh,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah we're gonn have some fun with this. One i've

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<v Speaker 1>barely seen any of. Them you guys, say some of

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<v Speaker 1>them are good and then a lot of them are.

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<v Speaker 4>Crap the first three first a Good jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>Diference they all tie.

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<v Speaker 1>In, okay, Okay so we will be doing that as

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<v Speaker 1>our next summer movie. Franchise that's coming here in Early

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<v Speaker 1>august at some.

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<v Speaker 2>Point.

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<v Speaker 1>Otherwise we're back On friday with The drop, podcast so

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<v Speaker 4>Awesome thanks for joining, us and Remember Luka doncic's nickname

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<v Speaker 4>should be Zip lock because he preserves his.

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