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Speaker 2: and our radio affiliates around the country. The twelve team
Speaker 2: playoff narrowed down to four and you have Ohio State,
Speaker 2: Penn State, Notre Dame in Texas. National title would be
Speaker 2: a really big boost for Ryan Day, particularly after four
Speaker 2: consecutive losses to Michigan. For the other three, the pressure
Speaker 2: could be even higher when you think about Penn State.
Speaker 2: They won a national championship in nineteen eighty six. Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: Last time they won a national title nineteen eighty eight. Texas.
Speaker 2: Texas had five losing seasons in the span since they
Speaker 2: last won a national title in two thousand and five.
Speaker 2: But Steve Sarkisian has done a really good job. You're
Speaker 2: starting to hear a little bit now. A lot of
Speaker 2: times this will be an agent who will say, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, I think people are reaching out to Steve Sarkesian, Hey,
Speaker 2: Marcus Freeman may be interested. And now that usually is
Speaker 2: an agent trying to get his client a new deal
Speaker 2: to stay. I don't know if you know Less Miles.
Speaker 2: It felt like every year when he was at LSU,
Speaker 2: and I think he Arkansas is interested in Less. We
Speaker 2: got to wrap him up. Wait, we just we just
Speaker 2: wrapped him up last and I don't give him a
Speaker 2: new contract. I kept thinking, just let him go, like
Speaker 2: if you aren't interested, then go. But I don't think
Speaker 2: Steve Serkesian is going I think he's built for the
Speaker 2: for the college game. Marcus Freeman built for the college game.
Speaker 2: You know, when Pete Carroll went to Seattle and I thought, now,
Speaker 2: you know, we can question why he was leaving USC
Speaker 2: to go to Seattle. But he did go to Seattle,
Speaker 2: and I think he realized it wasn't a good team,
Speaker 2: but it had, you know, it was in the embryonic
Speaker 2: stages of being a really good team. And then they
Speaker 2: were very fortunate to get Russell Wilson without Russ. I
Speaker 2: don't think the legion of boom, I don't think. I
Speaker 2: don't think they have a Super Bowl and another Super
Speaker 2: Bowl appearance. But Pete, Pete has that youthful energy when
Speaker 2: you see him. And then if I say, hey, who
Speaker 2: looks older Belichick or Pete Carroll or Nick Saban, You're
Speaker 2: going to say, well, the other guys do. Well. Pete's older,
Speaker 2: pet I think is seventy three. But let's ignore his age.
Speaker 2: Let's just say if this is candidate A, this is
Speaker 2: candidate B, this is candidates So if I said, you
Speaker 2: can have Ben Johnson Detroit offensive coordinator, you can have
Speaker 2: Aaron Glenn defensive coordinator there, or you could have Pete Carroll,
Speaker 2: And I just said, look at their resumes, Well, you're
Speaker 2: going to go, well, that guy won in the college,
Speaker 2: he won in the NFL, and well you would take him. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but he's seventy three. Then you would go, oh, well,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to hire him. Then if you're going
Speaker 2: to hire him because of his talent, then hiring because
Speaker 2: of that. I don't think using age against somebody is
Speaker 2: fair to Pete Carroll. I mean, I'm surprised that he
Speaker 2: has been out of the loop here, out of the mix.
Speaker 2: I was surprised that he's back in the mix, maybe
Speaker 2: getting a couple of interviews here. It goes back to
Speaker 2: if I ran a team, I would bring in as
Speaker 2: many candidates as possible. And this is what I never
Speaker 2: understood about the Bears last year. Jim Harbaugh's there, whether
Speaker 2: you're going to hire him or not, he's there. Bring
Speaker 2: him in for an interview, Bill Belichick, bring him in
Speaker 2: for an interview, because I'm going to gather all this
Speaker 2: data because they're going to come in and try to
Speaker 2: convince me that they're the person for the job. Well,
Speaker 2: how are you going to do that. I'm going to
Speaker 2: tell you how to run your organization. I'm going to
Speaker 2: tell you what I think of that player. Your defense,
Speaker 2: your wide receiver. Why wouldn't I collect that data? See
Speaker 2: you bring in Pete Carroll. Pet's been out of the
Speaker 2: game for a while. He's teaching a class at USC
Speaker 2: and bring him in. See what he says. The only
Speaker 2: thing I would worry about with coaches as they get older,
Speaker 2: if they're set in their ways. You know Bill Belichick,
Speaker 2: he can't be set in his ways at North Carolina,
Speaker 2: and maybe he was set in his ways in New England.
Speaker 2: Those last, you know, three or four years. You have
Speaker 2: to be willing to evolve. You can't go kicking and screaming.
Speaker 2: And what you're finding is a lot of coaches they
Speaker 2: don't want to stay around because they won't evolve. They
Speaker 2: don't want to put up with year to year. Did
Speaker 2: you hear Mick cronin UCLA head coach after a loss
Speaker 2: the other day calling his team soft? They're delusional, Like
Speaker 2: that's not coaching. That feels personal. And I'm sure that
Speaker 2: there is some part of that, you know, rant that
Speaker 2: he has said to them. But when you say it publicly, now,
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you walk up to those players
Speaker 2: and you say, Hey, what does coach mean by delusional? Hey,
Speaker 2: who's soft on it like now you created something, something more. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's up to you to motivate them. You recruited them,
Speaker 2: it's up to you and their kids. You're a grown
Speaker 2: man and you're saying we're soft and these kids are delusional. Okay,
Speaker 2: who recruited them, who's coaching them? How did they get delusional?
Speaker 2: How did they get soft? It starts with you. But
Speaker 2: that's where you have to I don't believe in this babying,
Speaker 2: you know, sensitivity and all. I think there is tough love.
Speaker 2: I think there's room for that. You know, God forbid,
Speaker 2: you played for Lombardy. You know people would probably like,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, like, what's going he's yelling at me? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I never got that when a coach started yelling at me.
Speaker 2: And I had a coach who did yell at me,
Speaker 2: I just tuned him out. But if he did talk
Speaker 2: to me in a way that was stern, it was like,
Speaker 2: oh okay, got my attention. But he would just yell guy, golly,
Speaker 2: golden boy, get out of here, and I'd be like,
Speaker 2: here you go. But you know, when you see somebody
Speaker 2: grab a face, man, Lou Holts did that for a player,
Speaker 2: grabbed his face, like, what are you doing? What do
Speaker 2: he hate? I never believed, Bob Knight, never believed in
Speaker 2: that you ask for your players to have composure and
Speaker 2: then you don't have composure. Practice what you preach and
Speaker 2: if you bring in players, you know how. You have
Speaker 2: to understand the landscape here. And these kids are more
Speaker 2: entitled now than they've ever been. They get money, they
Speaker 2: want money. They may stay for more money, they may
Speaker 2: leave for more money. Am I getting playing time? These
Speaker 2: coaches want control, they don't have control, and it drives
Speaker 2: them crazy. Seaton whole question from hour one and what
Speaker 2: are we going with an hour or two?
Speaker 4: I'm so glad that you asked Dan hour one we
Speaker 4: had up there, what would you like to see tonight
Speaker 4: Notre Dame win, a Penn State win, then both lose,
Speaker 4: or a good game. Right now, thirty six percent of
Speaker 4: the vote. You want to guess neither. Here come the irishman.
Speaker 4: Everybody wants Notre Dame to win. Let's go oh they do, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's in order. It's a Notre Dame win, a good game,
Speaker 4: then both lose, and the last is Penn State winning.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're dislikable. I think Marcus Freeman, you
Speaker 2: like his story. I think Brian Kelly was dislikable but
Speaker 2: while winning, Yeah you won a lot, he did, but
Speaker 2: I could see where you could go. I don't like
Speaker 2: that guy's demeanor. I don't like how he Marcus Freeman.
Speaker 2: And I'll talk to Kyle Hamilton about this because Marcus
Speaker 2: was the defensive coordinator when Kyle was there. I think
Speaker 2: at least for one year at Notre Dame, so I
Speaker 2: think he's relatable. And I don't know, like, do you
Speaker 2: hate Notre Dame anymore? Like even Duke? Do you hate Duke?
Speaker 2: I think if hey, Marvin you oh no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I'm with you. You get in.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, sure, if you're of a certain age, you
Speaker 3: might hate dude. The Latners and all those guys. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I remember Zion Williamson made Duke likable to a lot
Speaker 3: of this whole new generation of kids that are going
Speaker 3: to Duke. It doesn't feel like smug in the whole
Speaker 3: coach k and slapping the floors and all that type
Speaker 3: of stuff. Yeah, they just feel like, hey, really great
Speaker 3: players go to Duke for.
Speaker 2: A year, but you have to be really good to
Speaker 2: be disliked because otherwise you don't care. It's not like
Speaker 2: somebody has vitriol for the Arizona Cardinals because they're not good.
Speaker 2: But if somebody says something about, you know, the Chiefs
Speaker 2: and I hate the Chiefs and they got Taylor Swift
Speaker 2: and Travis Kelcey and they get all the calls, and like, okay,
Speaker 2: you can kind of create this lather to not like somebody.
Speaker 2: Yeah see.
Speaker 4: But there can be lots of teams though, that you
Speaker 4: don't like and you enjoy seeing lose. And that's a
Speaker 4: don't mean that they the I mean there are teams
Speaker 4: that haven't been good in many, many years that I
Speaker 4: love watching lose, Like oh well, top of the list
Speaker 4: is of the Dallas Cowboys. Okay, that is my most
Speaker 4: favorite pastime is watching Dallas Cowboys. Fans wet their pants
Speaker 4: every week.
Speaker 2: So even at the end of the season, you still
Speaker 2: took great jobs. Okay.
Speaker 4: I mean it's not like I search it out, but
Speaker 4: when I see it bubble up, like oh.
Speaker 2: God, it's just great. Okay. I love that. So Notre
Speaker 2: Dame Penn State coming up tonight, and then tomorrow night
Speaker 2: you'll have Texas and the Ohio State. But yeah, it's
Speaker 2: been a while for these schools, and uh, Penn State
Speaker 2: always an outlier. Yeah, they're there, and Marvin always brings
Speaker 2: this up. Yeah, I'll wait for the white out game
Speaker 2: and then that's when their title hopes go away. It's
Speaker 2: like Penn State this year, this is a this is
Speaker 2: a really good team. This is a really good in
Speaker 2: state too. They run the football, got a great tight end,
Speaker 2: got a good quarterback. Carter's a great edge rusher.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: Now it's James Franklin tends to puck her up a
Speaker 2: little bit. Now, let's see what he does, you know
Speaker 2: in these big moments, Yes, Marv.
Speaker 3: And the thing is this year, to me, they're really
Speaker 3: really good. They're always good. But those big games, that
Speaker 3: big whiteout game against Ohio State College college game days, there,
Speaker 3: big new kickoffs there and then they just cracked the bed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Paul, I think a lot of it's the quarterback.
Speaker 6: Remember a couple years ago, that guy Sean Clifford was
Speaker 6: a nice quarterback, and then you know, you go back
Speaker 6: to Trace McSorley was a nice quarterback. Now I feel
Speaker 6: like they have a threatening quarterback. Yeah, for the first
Speaker 6: time in a long time.
Speaker 2: Andy and Rhode Island Hi, Andy, welcome back.
Speaker 7: Hey, good morning Dan Dannis. I hope y'all are doing great.
Speaker 7: I'm out here braving it's cold, delivering the Purple Promise
Speaker 7: every day. Candy's packages out. But I woke up on my.
Speaker 2: Mind a morning think of that.
Speaker 8: You know, I want to do some pile of the face,
Speaker 8: bet man. I wanted to actually take on and Marvin tcs.
Speaker 8: They will be facing Seating Seaton Hall this weekend on
Speaker 8: Saturday and also on March ninth. The Yukon is actually
Speaker 8: visiting the friars out this way, and I wanted to
Speaker 8: do to pile of the face.
Speaker 9: Bet that's possible for you.
Speaker 2: Guys, Marvin, are you up for a pile to the
Speaker 2: face when Yukon faces Providence? I'm in okay, straight up,
Speaker 2: no point spreads absolutely, Seatan.
Speaker 3: Are you.
Speaker 2: Seaton Hall against Providence?
Speaker 4: Let's see Providence are what eight and eight this year?
Speaker 2: A dangerous et night?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well, i'man Seaton Hall is terrible this year. They're awful.
Speaker 4: So it's kind of an easy year to call in
Speaker 4: and be like, hey, how about a pile of the phase.
Speaker 2: I know your team sucks this year, how about this.
Speaker 4: It's a combination score between the Yukon game and the
Speaker 4: Seaton Hall game, if you add the totals together.
Speaker 2: Are you up for that?
Speaker 5: Andy?
Speaker 8: I am up for that? And you know what, Dan,
Speaker 8: I'm not you feeling myself. How about we triple it out, Christy,
Speaker 8: saddle up my bills versus your Broncos.
Speaker 5: Let's do it.
Speaker 9: I'm going.
Speaker 2: Well, wait a minute, and Andy, your bills are favored.
Speaker 8: You know, I'll take two pile to the faith How
Speaker 8: about that if if they if they lose to the Broncos,
Speaker 8: which you know this flight, chance that they they.
Speaker 9: Could pull up the up bet, I'm willing to do
Speaker 9: two pi to.
Speaker 2: The faith Ton.
Speaker 11: So all these things have to happen, including the two
Speaker 11: college basketball games and the Bronco then that's what we're
Speaker 11: talking about.
Speaker 2: He's got to get all three of those, right I
Speaker 2: is that right?
Speaker 10: Andy?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 2: Okay, it's not a parlay, it's a pilot. Okay, Oh okay,
Speaker 2: let's have fun.
Speaker 3: I'm in on the pilot.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're going to do this. That would be pilaying
Speaker 2: on It would be very nicely. Thank you. Yeah, what for.
Speaker 8: Get Lamar, forget Josh Allen, forgets Ritzy, You are the
Speaker 8: real MVP.
Speaker 9: Dad.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, well, thank you, Andy. I thought I was
Speaker 2: going to get involved with a pie of the face.
Speaker 3: I thought you were going to be the next one
Speaker 3: on the pilot dating fly.
Speaker 2: I know I did watch Ukon and Villanova last night.
Speaker 3: I did too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh oh, tough loss, but sorry, keep your head up,
Speaker 2: keep your head up. You know, Rutgers has two players
Speaker 2: who were probably lottery picks. I don't know if they're
Speaker 2: going to make the tournament. So they have uh Ace
Speaker 2: Bailey and Dylan Harper, Ron Harper's son. I don't know
Speaker 2: if they're going to make the tournament.
Speaker 3: Yeah, me and Seton talked about this before the season starts.
Speaker 2: That possible that you'll don't have two guys who will
Speaker 2: be drafted top ten. Bailey will be a top five
Speaker 2: guy probably, Yes.
Speaker 11: I think preseason people like them for like, at least
Speaker 11: the Sweet sixteen, they had them like doing some good things.
Speaker 4: Maley could be one of the best players, and he
Speaker 4: is one of the best players in the country for sure.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Paul, did you hear what Danny Hurley
Speaker 6: have yu Kon, said the reporter, asking about the tough
Speaker 6: loss last night.
Speaker 2: He goes, well, we'll do what you usually do. We'll
Speaker 2: go home.
Speaker 6: We'll pull out our box of rings, maybe play with
Speaker 6: them for a little bit, our back to back championship rings.
Speaker 2: Then get ready for Georgetown.
Speaker 6: Okay, I love them, I love them, I love them
Speaker 6: all right, Scoreboard.
Speaker 2: It's take a break. More phone calls coming up. We'll
Speaker 2: check in with the Ravens, Kyle Hamilton, the Pro Bowls Safety,
Speaker 2: he'll join us. We have dour rankings coming up. Greg McElroy.
Speaker 2: Mike Breen was on the call last night for the
Speaker 2: Mother's shiit Up with Cleveland the Cleveland the Cleveland Cavaliers
Speaker 2: against the Oklahoma City Thunder. If I said pick one
Speaker 2: of the two teams to make the NBA Finals, which
Speaker 2: team do you think he would take?
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Speaker 2: You know, Speaking of Marvin's Yukon Huskies, Villanova handled them.
Speaker 2: I don't know if sixty eight sixty six means you
Speaker 2: handled them, but first time since nineteen ninety five the
Speaker 2: team's played at Villanova's campus. Oh okay, normally they've been
Speaker 2: playing at the Wells Fargo Center. I think, okay, little
Speaker 2: home cooking, but that's a really small gim It looks
Speaker 2: so small. Dang.
Speaker 3: My wife was like, where are they playing? I was like,
Speaker 3: I know, like on campus is a whole different animal.
Speaker 3: I don't know why. Maybe the six Ers. I think
Speaker 3: the sixth probably had a home game.
Speaker 2: M Scott and Chapel Hill. Hey Scott, what's on your
Speaker 2: mind today?
Speaker 5: Hey Dan in a while? Thanks for getting me through. Yeah,
Speaker 5: all the first of all, Duke is and always will
Speaker 5: be very dislikable. I don't care who's on the team.
Speaker 5: So spring road trip idea, you might want to keep
Speaker 5: an eye on Stephen Wilson Junior is going to be
Speaker 5: in the area end of April. It should coordinate. He's
Speaker 5: on a Friday night the next day, could be the
Speaker 5: UNC spring football game that following day and weather permitting.
Speaker 5: I'm a PGA golf professional here in the area and
Speaker 5: can set you up on a the best golf course
Speaker 5: in the triangle. So just thought you might want to
Speaker 5: keep an eye on that. Look at Wilson's tour schedule
Speaker 5: and it could be a could be a fantastic weekend.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Scott. We have other road trips here.
Speaker 2: We're taking a road trip to the super Bowl. Seaton
Speaker 2: is actually going to take the van and go on
Speaker 2: the road with the French Kid like he's done in
Speaker 2: previous Super Bowls. Then when he gets back, then in April,
Speaker 2: we're going to take the DP show van to Lambo.
Speaker 2: We're going up for drafts at the Draft, and then
Speaker 2: we're going to come back from that, and then we're
Speaker 2: going to load up the van and then we're going
Speaker 2: through the state of Iowa. I think it's summer Iowa.
Speaker 2: I think that's what we're looking at, maybe late May,
Speaker 2: early June, something like that. So we have some road
Speaker 2: trips here coming up. We're always open for road trips,
Speaker 2: but these are ones that they're kind of set in stone.
Speaker 2: We'll be going to the super Bowl and then after
Speaker 2: that we'll be going to drafts. At the Draft, will
Speaker 2: be at Lambeau for a couple of days.
Speaker 3: And yes, Marv, are we still doing the five cities
Speaker 3: in five days in Iowa? That's what I'd like to do.
Speaker 3: So we're all in the Makeo van together.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's what we're going to do. We're
Speaker 2: going to be like a rock ban and just starting out.
Speaker 2: Let's not switch to a plane, you know at some
Speaker 2: point during the tour. No no, no, no, no, no no, We'll
Speaker 2: never graduate to our own plane. I used to think
Speaker 2: I didn't know if led Zeppelin had their own plane,
Speaker 2: and then somebody said, well, they actually had this magnetic
Speaker 2: sticker that you put on there, that it was like
Speaker 2: led Zeppelin's plane. Maybe they had their own plane, but
Speaker 2: I would I was told no, they didn't. You could
Speaker 2: just like swap out these you know, decals with the bands.
Speaker 11: Yes, yes, Tom, that would be the led Zeppeline.
Speaker 2: Okay, workable? All right?
Speaker 11: A couple of fake laught wouldn't kill anybody.
Speaker 2: How's that? Well, the King of fake laughter?
Speaker 4: Pretty generous to you over the last years.
Speaker 10: I can't argue that.
Speaker 2: God admit I've been pretty generous.
Speaker 3: Try again, led Zeppelin.
Speaker 13: H Whatever Lucas and speaking of Shay and Irving, the
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Speaker 2: Shay coming back from Vienna, Lucas in Texas. Hi, Luke,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10: Hey Dan?
Speaker 5: Good morning, good morning.
Speaker 9: You know I've got a college football question that I
Speaker 9: need help from you and the Dan antime. But a
Speaker 9: quick note, y'all are talking about how basketball changed when
Speaker 9: Bob tez Len dribbled alf in a hand. There's this
Speaker 9: actor Will Ferrell, you might have heard of him, did
Speaker 9: a movie called Semi Pro or they introduced the ALU
Speaker 9: and the commentary in there is that perfect example of
Speaker 9: you can't just still flying or I'm like that that's
Speaker 9: not allowed that the rules. It's a great team, But
Speaker 9: I've got a question for you man concerning college football loyalty.
Speaker 9: I'm a fuller student at Texas A and M. I
Speaker 9: love my school, I'm proud of it. But I'm looking
Speaker 9: to enroll in a school over the next year for
Speaker 9: graduate studies. That's still one of the four things of
Speaker 9: any in the playoffs. And my question is, I don't
Speaker 9: want to become that guy who roots for three or
Speaker 9: four different schools. What are the rules on looking for
Speaker 9: a team other than your original team?
Speaker 5: I need helping that, all.
Speaker 2: Right, let me go to the chairman of the rules committee,
Speaker 2: Pauly Pamps. Paulie.
Speaker 6: Well, that's interesting because let's say you went to undergraduate
Speaker 6: at Alabama, you'd clearly be a Tide fan for life.
Speaker 6: But when you what if you went to grad school
Speaker 6: at Auburn. No, that's that's too harsh. You would have
Speaker 6: to pick you. So you went to grad school at Michigan. Okay,
Speaker 6: could you simultaneously root for two teams? Well except for
Speaker 6: when they played in the bowl game. But if you
Speaker 6: go to a school and you pay for a school,
Speaker 6: they'd become part of your DNA a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you didn't go to Ohio State, but you grew up
Speaker 6: in Ohio State, so that's your number one school. You
Speaker 6: went to Dayton. Let's say Dayton played Ohio State in
Speaker 6: the National title game in college basketball. I would take
Speaker 6: Dayton means more to you, and the story probably the story.
Speaker 2: I think it's you know, your first love. I think
Speaker 2: that's tricky though, when if you go to a grad
Speaker 2: school someplace, I mean, you could still root for them,
Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean you're like Seaton is Seaton Hall fan.
Speaker 2: But if West Virginia played Seaton Hall, who you're rooting for?
Speaker 2: Not even close Seaton Hall? Oh you are.
Speaker 4: I've spent my whole life of Seaton Hall fan. I
Speaker 4: spent like eight months in West Virginia. I mean, I
Speaker 4: like West Virginia. It's awesome. I love the WVU, I
Speaker 4: love wearing the Flying WV all of that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we spoke with Kyle Hamilton yesterday after practice
Speaker 2: and he is a two time Pro Bowl safety for
Speaker 2: the Ravens and a Notre Dame grad as well, played
Speaker 2: under Marcus Freeman is his defensive coordinator. And I started
Speaker 2: out by asking Kyle Hamilton which game does he feel
Speaker 2: more confident about? The Ravens again, the Steelers, or is
Speaker 2: fighting irish playing tonight against Penn State?
Speaker 10: You know, taking one step at a time.
Speaker 14: So Notre Dame is tomorrow, So I'm worried about that
Speaker 14: Notre Dame game tomorrow. I got a few Penn State
Speaker 14: people talking a little trash, but you know, I said,
Speaker 14: it's they had a good season. They it's kind of
Speaker 14: a cool story that came this far. Get the program, sorry,
Speaker 14: but we got bigger things to do.
Speaker 2: Okay, do you have I think three teammates who went
Speaker 2: to Penn State? Are there any side bets on this game?
Speaker 14: A ton of bragging rights, because that's all anybody does
Speaker 14: is about their college.
Speaker 10: But you know, come Friday morning, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: Be really loud Marcus Freeman looks like he could still
Speaker 2: play Kyle.
Speaker 14: I think it's only about thirty five something like that.
Speaker 10: Is he but that up?
Speaker 2: But around there I think he was pretty intend was he?
Speaker 5: He was?
Speaker 2: What defensive coordinator when you were there?
Speaker 10: Yeah? He was not DC? He was.
Speaker 14: It was cool to have a DC that was closer
Speaker 14: in age to us than our head coach and can
Speaker 14: kind of relate been in it and can relay the
Speaker 14: messages very well.
Speaker 2: Does do you get to tackle Lamar Jackson or Derrick Henry?
Speaker 10: No? I mean I wish I could Lamar more so
Speaker 10: than Derek.
Speaker 2: But you don't want to tackle Derrick Henry?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 14: No, that's uh, you know when he has to do so,
Speaker 14: you know, you gotta do what you gotta do.
Speaker 10: But I'm glad he's on the Ravens.
Speaker 2: Okay, But that's where you make a business decision. If
Speaker 2: he was playing on the Titans. Have you made business
Speaker 2: decisions when you're tackling somebody.
Speaker 14: I feel like you can't really do that because if
Speaker 14: you try to do that, then you know you're just
Speaker 14: gonna get embarrassed.
Speaker 2: Well you can't admit it, but in your mind, it's like, God,
Speaker 2: this is gonna hurt.
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, but most of the time you get up
Speaker 14: next play and then you forget about it.
Speaker 2: But trying to corral Lamar, I mean, how tough is that?
Speaker 2: And he's your teammate.
Speaker 14: Yeah, obviously I can't speak from experience other than fall camp,
Speaker 14: but even then, when he's going fifty percent Lamar, it's
Speaker 14: still tough to stop him. And you see it every
Speaker 14: single game day. It's just like, I know, the defense
Speaker 14: has to be frustrated being out there and you feel
Speaker 14: like you have the perfect playdout up and you do,
Speaker 14: and then you get to him and he squirms out
Speaker 14: and runs for fifty yards. It throws a sixty yard touchdown.
Speaker 14: It's just it's got to be demoralizing.
Speaker 2: Okay, if we ran a forty yard dash, who's winning
Speaker 2: on the team out of everybody? Yeah, definitely not me?
Speaker 10: As I showcase at the combine.
Speaker 2: What was your time at the combine?
Speaker 10: Four or five? Nine?
Speaker 2: All right? Yeah, yeah, you're tall, you're rangy, you make
Speaker 2: up for it.
Speaker 10: Yeah that teams didn't care. They thought it was slow.
Speaker 2: But you know, okay, did they call you slow?
Speaker 10: Yeah? It it some of them did. But you know,
Speaker 10: it worked out and I'm right where I need to
Speaker 10: be at.
Speaker 2: Your speed challenged is what you are. You're not slow,
Speaker 2: You're just speed challenge. And your forty was faster than
Speaker 2: Jerry Rice's.
Speaker 10: Oh I can, all right, that's understandable.
Speaker 5: I can.
Speaker 14: Somebody tries to make fun of me. But forty our
Speaker 14: dash winner on the team probably probably Keaton No Nate Wiggins,
Speaker 14: Nate Wiggins, Nate Wiggins and Keaton Mitch would be a
Speaker 14: good race.
Speaker 2: Where's Lamar in this? If we did a forty or
Speaker 2: one hundred yard.
Speaker 14: I don't think anybody's ever really seen Lamar run full speed.
Speaker 14: When he does, he's super fast, so I probably put
Speaker 14: it I said that Lamar runs around high four to three.
Speaker 2: He's Kyle Hamilton, the Ravens safety, two time pro bowler
Speaker 2: and a former Notre Dame fighting Irishman. The difference between
Speaker 2: playoff practice and a regular season practice is what.
Speaker 10: Honestly not much at least for us.
Speaker 14: You know, we try to take that mindset in every
Speaker 14: single week so we don't get to the playoffs and
Speaker 14: then change what we're doing. It's something that I think
Speaker 14: the Ravens have done a great job of Coach Harbor.
Speaker 14: Everybody in the facility and everybody on the staff is
Speaker 14: just you know, we're kind of built for this at
Speaker 14: this point.
Speaker 10: It's just business as usual. So going on Saturday and
Speaker 10: do we need to do?
Speaker 2: Are you preparing for both quarterbacks?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think that's kind of something that you got
Speaker 14: to prepare for because they deploy justin fields when you know,
Speaker 14: Q be driven run stuff and obviously he's still a quarterback,
Speaker 14: can still throw the ball, so you know, you'd ever
Speaker 14: know how the game is gonna go, and so you
Speaker 14: got to prepared to be prepared for everything.
Speaker 2: Best wide receiver you faced this season was who.
Speaker 14: Mmmm, that's a good question. You know, CDs pretty good.
Speaker 14: I'm forgetting somebody. I will always say it wasn't this season,
Speaker 14: but last season, Puka Naku is probably one of the
Speaker 14: more underrated people in the league.
Speaker 10: Just playing against him.
Speaker 14: He's physical, he's tough, makes great catches, runs good routes,
Speaker 14: and you know, not a lot of people give him
Speaker 14: credit for what he does. And that's one person that
Speaker 14: really stuck out to me last year.
Speaker 2: But but Kyle, I watched him play and I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: how did everybody miss on Pokinakua being a great wide receiver,
Speaker 2: even a good wide receiver in the NFL.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean I think he had somewhat of a
Speaker 14: subpar combine or something coming out, maybe measurables, but I
Speaker 14: think people get stuck in the numbers a little too
Speaker 14: much and forget that. You know, you gotta play football
Speaker 14: at the d of the day. And he's definitely a
Speaker 14: good football player.
Speaker 2: Jim Harball is quirky weird. Is John Harball quirky weird?
Speaker 14: Honestly, I don't think so. I think he was probably
Speaker 14: the cooler brother growing up. Even though Jim was the
Speaker 14: NFL quarterback. You know, John was still the older brother.
Speaker 14: And nah, I feel like I feel like he kind
Speaker 14: of has those older brother qualities and Jim has those
Speaker 14: younger brother qualities.
Speaker 2: Does John say goofy things though?
Speaker 14: Yeah, he does goofy, borderline corny. Yeah, he tries, and
Speaker 14: we appreciate him trying to have a little satirical side
Speaker 14: to him, but you know, sometimes he is.
Speaker 10: It's kind of a hit or miss with him.
Speaker 2: Well, congrats so far, good luck against the Steelers, and
Speaker 2: thanks for joining us.
Speaker 10: Thank you, Dad, appreciate it.
Speaker 2: That's Kyle Hamilton, the Ravens safety, talked to him yesterday
Speaker 2: after practice. He's listed I think at six ' four,
Speaker 2: and PAULI goes, who is the tallest defensive back in
Speaker 2: NFL history?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 2: The first person that came to mind was Mel Blunt,
Speaker 2: who I think was six ' five playing for the.
Speaker 6: Steelers, listed in at six foot four. Kyle Hamilton also
Speaker 6: listed as six foot four.
Speaker 2: Okay, I've stood next to Mel Blunt, he's six ' five.
Speaker 2: I have not stood next to Kyle Hamilton. Yes, Marvin, what.
Speaker 3: About Brandon Browner from the Seahawks?
Speaker 2: Was he he was?
Speaker 10: He was big?
Speaker 2: He was big. How about well, Cam Chancellor was in
Speaker 2: a defensive back? Yes he was?
Speaker 1: Was he?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: He just hit like a linebacker.
Speaker 2: Oh okay?
Speaker 6: Listedt dB at six y three Chancellor, Brandon Browner listed
Speaker 6: at blop Marvin sixty four? Okay, I cannot find anyone
Speaker 6: listed at sixty five in NFL history in dB.
Speaker 2: Is that one of those Like a quarterback, you don't
Speaker 2: want to be over sixty five, you don't want to
Speaker 2: be listed as over sixty five. I did find that
Speaker 2: at one point at Notre Dame, Kyle Hamilton was listed
Speaker 2: at six five, and then his last year he was
Speaker 2: listed at sixty four. Okay for the draft, Okay, but
Speaker 2: I kind of want my free safety to be tall,
Speaker 2: but I would like for him to be quick, maybe fast.
Speaker 2: But yeah, mel Blunt. Mel Blunt was a tall guy.
Speaker 2: And back then in the seventies, you didn't your defensive
Speaker 2: backs were like five nine, five ten. Maybe if you
Speaker 2: got somebody six feet, it's like, all right, they can
Speaker 2: and you would have receivers, tall receivers, but it's like
Speaker 2: they didn't take advantage of that height advantage. You know
Speaker 2: that when you're going, Hey, that wide receiver six '
Speaker 2: to two, and they can take advantage of Larry Wilson
Speaker 2: of the Saint Louis Cardinals, who's five to nine. All right,
Speaker 2: we'll take a break. More phone calls coming up, and
Speaker 2: let me see what do we have. Also Sunday night,
Speaker 2: it'll be the Buccaneers and the Commanders that'll be on
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Speaker 2: Now we're obsessed the tallest players at their position in
Speaker 2: NFL history. We're talking about Kyle Hamilton, the pre safety
Speaker 2: for the Ravens, listed at six ' four. I thought
Speaker 2: Mel Blunt was six ' five, played for the Steelers,
Speaker 2: but it appears as if the tallest defensive back is
Speaker 2: six four.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, major update, Dan, I know you've been waiting
Speaker 6: the Cowboys for four years.
Speaker 2: Headed the fence.
Speaker 6: It's back out of Florida State named Pat Watkins, officially
Speaker 6: listed at six ' five. That's the highest in NFL history.
Speaker 6: Did you want to play guest? The highest the toss
Speaker 6: players at other positions?
Speaker 13: Game?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 6: Quarterback Dan maguire correct six' eight, six ' eight for
Speaker 6: the Seahawks. This is an old school one. You may
Speaker 6: have a shot at it. Running back. This gentleman was
Speaker 6: six foot five. He played in Super Bowl One. Not
Speaker 6: a household name, but was on the team.
Speaker 2: Okay, I was going to go Donnie Anderson, No, whyt
Speaker 2: me give you a half point because you came up
Speaker 2: with a name. Burt Cohen six ' five for the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: I don't remember Bert Cohen now BC. Donnie Anderson was
Speaker 2: also the puncher for the Packers now Steers boy, thank
Speaker 2: you to we don't know that Brandon Jacob's modern day
Speaker 2: six foot four. Oh, then Derrick Henry. We've stood next
Speaker 2: to him. If he said he was six y five,
Speaker 2: I'd believe him wide receiver. This is NFL history listed
Speaker 2: on the roster, so so, Harold Carmichael, you could stop there.
Speaker 6: You got it, Okay, six foot eight for the Eagles
Speaker 6: at old number seventeen.
Speaker 2: Fritzy, you're so jealous.
Speaker 3: Oh, I love Tyrold Carmon. Now you just throw that
Speaker 3: ball up and he's coming down with it.
Speaker 2: Thanks for that.
Speaker 11: It was an eighty twenty ball, not a fifty to fifty.
Speaker 2: Thanks for that.
Speaker 6: Tight end, Dan, you will get this because it's your era.
Speaker 6: He was not that great of a player, but sometimes
Speaker 6: he would block kicks. Morris Stroud or Stroud is correct,
Speaker 6: six foot ten.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he wasn't a great tight end, but they would
Speaker 2: have him back on long field goals and then they
Speaker 2: he would try to jump up and you know, block.
Speaker 6: Them, and he did it, and the NFL instruted the
Speaker 6: Stroud rule. You cannot go back and do that anymore.
Speaker 6: He did have seven touchdowns in his career and played
Speaker 6: in say offensive lineman modern era.
Speaker 3: Ish Yes, Jonathan Ogden.
Speaker 2: Foot nine okay listed Yeah, big dude, Yeah, kicker. This
Speaker 2: is a tough one.
Speaker 6: One bar guy played in the eighties, nineties.
Speaker 2: Maybe seventies eighties, So not Mark Moseley. Now, I'll give
Speaker 2: you a lot of hints.
Speaker 6: He played for the Cardinals mostly Jim Bochin again half
Speaker 6: point for a named Neil o'donahue.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, six foot six, Okay, punter. Here's the hint.
Speaker 2: He played for your hometown team.
Speaker 6: Pat mcinally Pat McNally six foot six, bonus coverage for mcinally.
Speaker 2: The highest ever Wonderlick score. He went to Harvard. Yes,
Speaker 2: I think he had a perfect score on the Wonderlick.
Speaker 2: This is a toughie.
Speaker 6: If anyone gets it, they get a breakfast burrito. The
Speaker 6: tallest defensive tackle in NFL history tackle tackle listed at
Speaker 6: tackle listed at seven foot on the roster. Played one
Speaker 6: year for the Raiders in nineteen sixty seven.
Speaker 2: Okay, so John Letusak.
Speaker 6: Not a name, just a trivia question kind of guy.
Speaker 6: Richard Sly number eighty played for Draft about the Bengals.
Speaker 2: Played one year for the Raiders.
Speaker 6: Seven foot Richard Sly played in the Super Bowl. Okay,
Speaker 6: defensive end ed two tall Jones with a name like that,
Speaker 6: you got to make it. Six foot nine Ed Jones, okay, linebacker,
Speaker 6: you'll get this, Ted Hendrick. Ed Hendricks is correct, six
Speaker 6: foot seven, number eighty three for the Raiders, a mad stork.
Speaker 2: And that's it.
Speaker 5: We have.
Speaker 2: Cornerback is Pat Watkins. Okay, there it is the tall game.
Speaker 2: Fritchie just gave me an update led Zeppelin's private playing
Speaker 2: the starship had a fireplace in it, fully stocked bar
Speaker 2: with an organ built into it, shag carpeting, master bedroom
Speaker 2: for privacy, and they purchased it from United Airlines for
Speaker 2: nearly a quarter of a million dollars and upgrades. That's fun,
Speaker 2: Thank you, Tom. Yeah, so they had their own play
Speaker 2: Can we do Dowur rankings? Do we have time?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, okay, something in sports team person situation.
Speaker 2: That's just dour right now, all right, Todd Dower rankings.
Speaker 11: Even though they're in the playoffs and they're playing a
Speaker 11: division rival and they could very easily go into the
Speaker 11: division playoff, I'm kind of Dowur on Russ and the Steelers,
Speaker 11: specifically their offense. They lost their last four games, not
Speaker 11: a good way to go into the playoffs, and it's going.
Speaker 2: To be Oh that's not a good way to go.
Speaker 11: Not a good way, and I can't see them surviving
Speaker 11: a trip to Baltimore on Saturday night.
Speaker 2: Oh they are nine and a half point underdogs, and
Speaker 2: very rightfully so. Seaton Dower rankings Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 4: Yeah, supremely dowered on him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't just do.
Speaker 4: You're in the middle of a game, an important game,
Speaker 4: and you just decide to quit and then on your
Speaker 4: way out, you're like full on Antonio Browning the organization,
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 2: Know, and he wanted to get paid, got paid, go
Speaker 2: to Miami, get paid.
Speaker 4: I'm all for every player getting as many cents out
Speaker 4: of an owner as they possibly can. Great do it, however,
Speaker 4: I mean finish the game like they got video Jayleen
Speaker 4: Wattle being like, yo, cheetah, you done, dude, Like shocked,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: Cos Marvin Dower rankings.
Speaker 3: The New England Patriots after firing jit Rod Mayo after
Speaker 3: just one season and then posting on your ex or Twitter,
Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it. Oh, we interviewed these
Speaker 3: guys to check a box.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pitiful Byron left Wich, Pep Hamilton. Hey, look we
Speaker 2: interviewed some black candidates. You're not slick Paul Downward rankings.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the Saints.
Speaker 6: Nobody's talked about them, there's no buzz, and it feels
Speaker 6: like we're in year four or five of no buzz
Speaker 6: around that team. And I don't think their cars awful,
Speaker 6: but it's just he's never gotten anyone over the top.
Speaker 2: That's a franchise that really needs arch manning. They could
Speaker 2: really use Arch. Maybe he's Archie maybe my Dower rankings,
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler, Jimmy, Jimmy seems to be crazy to give
Speaker 2: you a big contract again. You know you're with a
Speaker 2: great franchise, and now where do you want to go?
Speaker 2: What do you want to do? You keep bouncing around,
Speaker 2: and we're always led to believe it's the other people,
Speaker 2: the other teammates. Maybe two but does he get traded?
Speaker 2: Got suspended and then they're like, you can't suspend him
Speaker 2: for seven games, which did seem like a lot. But
Speaker 2: that's where pat Riley's like, oh, okay, you want to
Speaker 2: see who's in charge? Sit down seven games? And I
Speaker 2: think it was going to cost him two and a
Speaker 2: half million dollars sitting down. But I guess he wants
Speaker 2: a new contract and now I guess there's talk maybe
Speaker 2: Bradley Beal Jimmy Butler are involved in a trade. Probably
Speaker 2: have to have a third team with that. Sounds like
Speaker 2: a mess. Sounds like a mess. All right, don't have
Speaker 2: time to take phone calls up against a commercial break,
Speaker 2: but we'll get to phone calls coming up. Mike Breen
Speaker 2: was on the call for the Cavaliers and the Thunder.
Speaker 2: Now the Thunder didn't have Chet Holmgren and chat with
Speaker 2: the big men with Alan and Mobley with the Cavaliers
Speaker 2: might have neutralized a little bit of that. And they
Speaker 2: both played well. Mobley's a good player. He really like
Speaker 2: what was he number four pick in the drugs? Yeah,
Speaker 2: and Garland has come back to I mean that's a
Speaker 2: really good backcourt combo with him. I mean that's an
Speaker 2: undersized backcourt with him and Mitchell So and then Greg
Speaker 2: McElroy be on the call for Notre Dame and Penn
Speaker 2: State coming up. So we got a busy final hour.
Speaker 2: Hope you'll stay with us, Seaton, Paul Fritzie McLevin, everybody
Speaker 2: else who's ever been on the program. And Marvin mc
Speaker 2: wow wow ouch