1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: Welcome in our number three Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 2: We appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Encourage 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: you to go subscribe to Clay and Buck vip. You 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 2: can watch us every single day on video there. We 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: are waving at you right now. 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We head now 15 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 2: to our friend Andy McCarthy, who is still in Chicago, 16 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: I think watching his son play for the University of 17 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 2: Chicago baseball team. 18 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 3: I understand that we sent him a New York Mets mug. 19 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 4: It's good for a Mets fan to get something since 20 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 4: most of the time all they get is losses from 21 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 4: my Atlanta Braves. Right off the top. Shots at Andy, 22 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 4: Clay bringing the heat. Oh right away. 23 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 3: Andy, By the way, who do you like in the 24 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 3: Super Bowl? 25 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: We probably won't talk to you before then, do you 26 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: have a strong lean one way or the other forty 27 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: nine Ers or chiefs. 28 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the chiefs or I just think mahomes 29 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 5: is to get into that sort of Montana Brady category, 30 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 5: he's got to like go on the road, win those 31 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 5: playoff games and get a championship, and then I think 32 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 5: he's in that conversation. So I think that's what's happening. 33 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: I'm on the other side, by the way, the forty 34 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: nine ers, but that, Yeah, there we go. We got 35 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: an easy, easy battle going on there. All right, let's 36 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: dive into what we got today. DC Court of Appeals. 37 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: I think you would probably say not a surprising ruling 38 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: that they're not buying Donald Trump's presidential immunity argument he 39 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: now faces the Trump does in his legal team the question, 40 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: does he appeal on bank to the entirety of the 41 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: DC Court of Appeals knowing that the DC Court of 42 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: Appeals is not going to accept his argument, and then would. 43 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 3: Appeal to the Supreme Court? 44 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: Or do you think he skips the en banc appeal 45 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: and goes straight to the Supreme Court. How would you 46 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: assess where we are right now as it pertains to 47 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: this jan six case based on the ruling that came 48 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 2: down this morning. 49 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 5: Clay, I think equally important with the fifty seven page opinion, which, 50 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 5: as you suggest, is a pretty thorough rejection of the 51 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 5: merits of his immunity claim, but probably equally important with 52 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 5: it is this one page, really essentially one paragraph order 53 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 5: that the court issued in conjunction with the opinion. And 54 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 5: it's very interesting. What it does is it says to Trump, 55 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 5: you have until Monday to file an appeal to the 56 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 5: Supreme Court, in which case we'll continue to hold the 57 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 5: case in abance until the Supreme Court acts on it. 58 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 5: But if you instead decide to take your thirty days 59 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 5: that the rules of appellate procedure give you to appeal 60 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 5: to the full court on bank and only then you 61 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 5: know which would have What would happen there is it 62 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 5: would get instantly denied and then he would try to 63 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 5: appeal to the Supreme Court. 64 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: What the court basically says, if you could. 65 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 5: Try to go the rehearing un bank route first, that 66 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 5: is not going to stop proceedings in the District court anymore. 67 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 5: So you either appeal to the Supreme Court Monday, or 68 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 5: this case is going back to Judge chuck in so 69 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 5: she can start having hearings and do the jury questionnaire 70 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 5: and all the stuff she has to do to get 71 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 5: ready for trial. 72 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: Have you ever seen that before? 73 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 5: I know I've never seen Well also, I mean, is 74 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 5: there anything about this where you couldn't put that question 75 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 5: to me? 76 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 3: You know there's nothing about that. 77 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: But ill the reason I'm saying, I've never seen a 78 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: court say if you appeal to us, then we will 79 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: allow the lower court proceedings to start. Basically telling Trump 80 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 2: you're not going to be able to use any more 81 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: time here, you better go straight to the Supreme Court. 82 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: If you were advising, I've never seen something like this. 83 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: So and then to your point, none of us have 84 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: ever seen anything like this. What would you tell Trump 85 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: and his team if they came to you in the wake. 86 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: Of this appeal? 87 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 2: And we all understand that Trump's goal is to avoid 88 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: this case going to trial, ideally until after the elections 89 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: already happened, but in a minimum, as long as possible, 90 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,239 Speaker 2: what advice would you give him based on this ruling? 91 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 5: I tell him we have to appeal to the Supreme 92 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 5: Court on Monday, because I think the other thing, Clay, 93 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 5: that there's like another moving part here that we have 94 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 5: to consider, which is actually superseded the immunity in importance, 95 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 5: and that is that the Supreme Court has already said 96 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 5: they're going to hear the obstruction case in connection with 97 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 5: some of the January sixth defendants. And even though Trump 98 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 5: is not a defendant in that action, he's not a 99 00:04:54,600 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 5: party to that, it's immensely important because the two main 100 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 5: charges against Trump and the election interference are the obstruction charges. 101 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 5: So I think as a practical matter, because the Supreme 102 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 5: Court is not going to decide the obstruction case until 103 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 5: the end of June, Judge Chuckin can't start a trial 104 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 5: until sometime after that, I would say, you know, probably 105 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 5: late July at the earliest, because she's got a wait 106 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 5: for what the Court's going to say on obstruction. So 107 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 5: if I'm Trump's lawyers, I think I would say, well, look, 108 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 5: we've gotten as much as of this immunity thing that, 109 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 5: like on substance, was meritless, but was valuable to, you know, 110 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 5: to getting the case put on ice in the district 111 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 5: court and achieving some delay. But at this point his 112 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 5: eggs are in the obstruction basket. It's no longer an 113 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 5: immunity thing. 114 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 4: Andy, what is the from the perspective of Jack Smith, 115 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 4: the anti Trump Democrats, given what we've seen so far, 116 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 4: what are they hoping this is going to play out 117 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 4: as right? 118 00:05:58,520 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: Like? 119 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 4: What what is their best scenario as you see it 120 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 4: from here on out in terms of obviously a guilty verdict, 121 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 4: but in terms of the timing and how it comes down. 122 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 5: I think she's determined to go to trial. They go 123 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 5: to trial in late July. I've been saying July fifteenth, 124 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 5: but it was pointed out to me not long ago 125 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 5: that July fifteenth is apparently the start of the Republican Convention. 126 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 5: I think that would be a little much to start 127 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 5: the trial on that day. But I imagine, you know, 128 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 5: after that, the hope for them would be the Supreme 129 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 5: Court doesn't do much with the obstruction case that would 130 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 5: disturb Smith's indictment, and then with little or no tweaking, 131 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 5: he can just go to trial a few weeks later, 132 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 5: and in the meantime, Chucken can use this time that 133 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 5: she now has or probably will have to do all 134 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 5: the pre trial stuff that you need to get ready 135 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 5: so that they can hit the ground running and go 136 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 5: to trial in July, and then they hope buck to 137 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 5: you know, in a federal criminal trial, the defendant has 138 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 5: to be there every day, and this is estimated to 139 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 5: be a two to three month trial. So I think 140 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 5: they would hope to have Trump sort of not only 141 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 5: chained to a courtroom from late like late July into October, 142 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 5: but also day after day after day, the evidence in 143 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 5: the case is going to be coming out and being 144 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 5: in the public domain and reminding the public of everything 145 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,679 Speaker 5: they disliked about Andy. 146 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 4: So yeah, I wanted to take it from that perspective. 147 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 4: So we can kind of know worst case now from 148 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 4: the Trump perspective, obviously heavily involving the Supreme Court's actions. Here, 149 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 4: what's best case from here on out? 150 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 5: That Smith that the Supreme Court issues an opinion in 151 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 5: the obstruction case that not only dismantles the imaginative uses 152 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 5: that prosecutors have made of the obstruction statute, but also says, 153 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 5: you know, look, just like we said last term in 154 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 5: the case involving the two Cuomo pronies whose convictions they 155 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 5: threw out, we were telling prosecutors not to creatively use 156 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 5: these statutes and stretch them in a way that they 157 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 5: were never intended to be used in order to fight 158 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 5: political corruption. If Congress wants to write political corruption statutes, 159 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 5: they can do that, but it's not up to prosecutors 160 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 5: to use the. 161 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 3: Law this way. 162 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 5: And if they wrote an opinion like that, and I 163 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 5: don't think that's out of the realm of possibility, I 164 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 5: wouldn't bet my life on it. That would be a 165 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 5: problem for Smith, not only in connection with the obstruction 166 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 5: but also with the civil rights charge and the fraud charge. 167 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 5: So I think that's Trump's biggest hope that the Supreme 168 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 5: Court blows it out of the water forum on the 169 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 5: obstruction case. 170 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: Okay, Traditionally, and again we're talking about we're talking to 171 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: any McCarthy. Everything we're talking about is unprecedented, non traditional. 172 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 3: Yes, in the legitimate use of the word. 173 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: General rule. The Department of Justice has a policy that 174 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 2: they do not do political trials in the middle of elections. 175 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: This has been the standard rule for a long time, 176 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: even with the idea being that was at twenty twenty 177 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 2: two when they raided mar A Lago. I think they 178 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: tried to do it in August instead of doing it 179 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: in October. 180 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 3: And what we're talking about now, and I agree with 181 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 3: you on timing. 182 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: Is the possibility that this case would go to trial 183 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: right in the middle of the election. Right to your point, 184 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 2: Trump could leave the Republican Convention and go straight to 185 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 2: a courtroom in d C. And be there for the 186 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 2: rest of July, August, September on potentially into October. 187 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 4: This is really crazy. What do you think MARYK. 188 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 2: Garland would say about that timing and how that would 189 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 2: play from a Department of Justice perspective. 190 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 5: I think Garland will say, you know, gee whiz, I 191 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 5: appointed a special counsel here and President Biden and I 192 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 5: don't have anything to do with the cases against President Trump, 193 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 5: which was the reason you know there shouldn't be a 194 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 5: special counsel in this case. The reason he appointed this 195 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 5: a conflict of interest between the Biden Justice Department and Trump. Right, 196 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 5: there's a conflict of interest between the Biden Justice Department 197 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 5: and Biden and Hunter, but not with Trump. But the 198 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 5: only reason he appointed the council was so that we 199 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 5: could indulge this that he doesn't have anything to do 200 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 5: with it. The Biden Justice Department doesn't have anything to 201 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 5: do with the President. Biden doesn't even though Jack Smith 202 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 5: is executing President Biden's power under the auspices of the 203 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 5: Justice Department. They're pretending they have nothing to do with it, 204 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 5: and then they'll just say Smith's going to do whatever 205 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 5: he's going to do. And it looks like he's hell 206 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 5: bent on going to trial whenever he can go. That's 207 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 5: clear they've made up this fantasy new right that the 208 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 5: public has an interest in a speedy trial, when the 209 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 5: Constitution said it's the defendant who has an interest in 210 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 5: speedy trial. Look has an interest in a just trial. 211 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 5: Trump doesn't want to speedy trial. He wants more time. 212 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 5: So I think Smith is absolutely going for it whenever 213 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 5: he can start the trial. And it's really going to 214 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 5: be up to Judge Chuck and to decide how does 215 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 5: she want to be perceived and remembered. Does she think 216 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 5: it's unseemly for the judiciary to participate in what would 217 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 5: be to my mind, the Biden Justice Departments obviously politicize 218 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 5: desire to get this case to trial at a time 219 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 5: that's propitious for them under the election calendar. 220 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 4: Is there any so Andy, It sounds like either Supreme 221 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 4: Court steps in here or this thing is going to trial? 222 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 3: Right? Is that? 223 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 4: I mean meeting either Supreme Court shoots it down in 224 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 4: a way where they can't get the outcome they want, 225 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 4: or else you think they will be able to get 226 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 4: it through on the schedule where it would happen before 227 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 4: the election. 228 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 3: Is that the right read? 229 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it would be to do it that way, 230 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 5: But I will that Smith is determined to go to trial, 231 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 5: and I don't see from everything I've seen from Judge 232 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 5: chuck Now. Look, chuck In has frozen the case. And 233 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 5: Smith did go to her and say, well, even though 234 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 5: the case is on appeal, there's other things we could 235 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 5: be dealing, we could be dealing with motions, we could 236 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 5: be dealing with the jury quist And she said, no, 237 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 5: it's shut down. So she hasn't been a complete rubber 238 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 5: stamp for him, and I don't think she's going to 239 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 5: like the perception that, like, if they start this trial 240 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 5: in August and you're running right into election day. If 241 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 5: I'm a judge, I don't want to be You know, 242 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 5: the judiciary is supposed to be there as the protection 243 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 5: to the defendant from abusive actions by the executive branch 244 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 5: the prosecution in this instance, and I think it would 245 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 5: be abusive under circumstances where the public has an interest 246 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 5: in deciding the election itself rather than having the system decided. 247 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 5: To me, there's no public interest in having this case 248 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 5: before election day, you know. Smith says, well, you know, 249 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 5: we the public has a right to the public knows 250 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 5: plenty the public has there the indictment, the public had 251 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 5: the January sixth committee hearing. There's nothing about January. We 252 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 5: watched January sixth on television. There's nothing about this that 253 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 5: the public is going to find out at the trial. 254 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 5: That is not something we don't already know. What the 255 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 5: Democrats I'm hoping for is it's like it's one big 256 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 5: election ad in the run up to the election, to 257 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 5: remind the public when they're thinking about a million other 258 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 5: things how much they hated the Capitol riot. 259 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 2: Last question for you, Andy, there's another complexity here, clearly 260 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: based on the schedule being changed, and I agree with you, 261 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: I think late July probably the earliest at best that 262 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: they could take this to trial in DC, the Jack 263 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 2: Smith case. What do you think Democrats are telling Alvin 264 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: Bragg now, because he would theoretically be first up on 265 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: the docket, do they push this one back and wait 266 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: and put all their eggs in the jack Smith basket. 267 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: What if that case gets dragged on and ends up 268 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 2: pushing because that could happen, right like, somehow things get 269 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: bogged down there and they can't start the jack Smith 270 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: case right like, and or we still have South Florida. 271 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 2: What do you think they're selling Alvin Bragg right now? 272 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: Do you think that case goes to trial first or 273 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 2: do you think they tell him to put that on hiatus. 274 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 5: Well, there's two things with that Clay. One is that 275 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 5: you know, Alvin Bragg and the Democrats have you know, 276 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 5: the National Democrats, they have kind of the same agenda. 277 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 5: You know, they want to see Trump defeat it. But 278 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 5: Brago also has his own constituency in New York, right, 279 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 5: which is why he indicted this Takamami case in the 280 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 5: first place. So if I'm the Democrats, I don't want 281 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 5: the Alvin Bragg case to go to trial because to me, 282 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 5: that's a no lose proposition for Trump. If he beats 283 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 5: the case, it's like a nanza for him because he 284 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 5: could he's got a powerful argument that this whole lawfair 285 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 5: thing was just a bunch of you made up nonsense. 286 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 5: Then it'll be a powerful argument for him on the 287 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 5: other hand, if he gets convicted, it's a really bad case, 288 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 5: and I think people are just going to say, look, 289 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 5: that's New York. They have it in for Trump, and 290 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 5: they're not going to care that much about it. So 291 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 5: if I'm the Democrats, there's nothing good that comes out 292 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 5: of Alvin Bragg going first. But if Brad wants to 293 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 5: go first, and he's got a trial date that the 294 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 5: judge gave him a March twenty fifth, and there's no 295 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 5: federal troth, he said he would back off for a 296 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 5: federal trial. 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Uh maike a little more of this 326 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 4: discussion we just had with Andy McCarthy about where the 327 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 4: lawfair against Trump is going to go at this point, Uh, 328 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 4: it's sounded like it's for it's for all the marvels, 329 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 4: whether they can actually get this thing done against Trump, 330 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 4: the J six trial. I think Clay, you me and 331 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 4: Andy all see New York the same way at this point, 332 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 4: which to me is not quite gospel, but it means 333 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 4: we're we're probably on the on the on the side 334 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 4: of of correct on that one. That doesn't mean that 335 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 4: I think to his point that Bragg won't bring the case, 336 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 4: but there certainly are additional considerations. If they can get 337 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 4: this J six thing set up so that it's August 338 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 4: September into October, he's in a federal criminal trial. If 339 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 4: nothing else, they slow down his entire campaign, even if 340 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 4: he beats it. 341 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna I mean again, so much of this 342 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: is unprecedented, but it is wild to think about where 343 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 2: we are headed and what the next several months are 344 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 2: going to be. 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Use our names Clay and Buck as 363 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 2: your promo code for the specials plus free shipping. Welcome 364 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 2: back in Clay, Travis, Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of 365 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 2: you hanging out with us. Encourage you to go check out. 366 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 2: We've had a couple of great interviews. Dave McCormick in 367 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 2: the second hour running for Senate from Pennsylvania. A top 368 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 2: of this hour, our friend Andy McCarthy breaking down all 369 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 2: the latest on the law fair against Donald Trump, its consequences, 370 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 2: its significance. 371 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 3: I think you will learn quite a lot from that. 372 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: If you missed it, you can go grab it in 373 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 2: the podcast, or you can go subscribe to the Clay 374 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 2: and Buck of VIP and you can watch the video 375 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 2: version of the interview on once. 376 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 3: The show is over. 377 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 2: You can also obviously watch us live for three hours 378 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 2: every single day at Clayanbuck dot com. Okay, Donald, we've talked. 379 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 2: I think we might have mentioned on the show earlier, 380 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 2: maybe yesterday, that Tucker Carlson was in Russia. If we didn't, 381 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 2: we certainly have talked about it off air. Sometimes the 382 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 2: conversations are very similar. But Tucker just released a video saying, yes, 383 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 2: he's in Russia and he's there to interview Vladimir Putin. 384 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,719 Speaker 2: I think that's an interesting decision. I agree that if 385 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 2: you can interview some somebody at the center of a 386 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 2: geopolitical universe, you should Here's Tucker talking about his decision 387 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 2: to interview Putin. 388 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 6: Most Americans have no idea why Putin invaded Ukraine or 389 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 6: what his goals are. 390 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 3: Now you've never heard his voice. 391 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 4: That's wrong. 392 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 6: Americans have a right to know all they can about 393 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 6: a war they're implicated in, and we have the right 394 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 6: to tell them about it because we are Americans too. 395 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 6: Freedom to speech is our birthright. We were born with 396 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 6: the right to say what we believe. That right cannot 397 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 6: be taken away no matter who is in the White House. 398 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 4: But they're trying anyway. 399 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 6: Almost three years ago, the Biden administration illegally spied on 400 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 6: our text messages and then leaked the contents to their 401 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,959 Speaker 6: servants in the news media. They did this in order 402 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 6: to stop a Putin interview that we were planning last 403 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 6: month for pretty certain they did exactly the same thing 404 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 6: once again, but this time we came to Moscow. Anyway, 405 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 6: we are not encouraging you to agree with what Putin 406 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 6: may say in this interview, but we. 407 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 3: Are urging you to watch it. 408 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 6: You should know as much as you can, and then, 409 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 6: like a free citizen and not a slave, you can 410 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 6: decide for yourself. 411 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 2: I agree with everything he said there, Buck, I mean, 412 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 2: I don't know what Putin's gonna say. 413 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 3: Obviously some people are gonna rip him. 414 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 2: But I think if CBS, NBC, Fox News, CNN, any 415 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: of these outlets had the opportunity to sit down one 416 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: on one with Vladimir Putin, you would have to take it. 417 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 3: I'm not sure what you lose by this. 418 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 4: To me, it's a big get from a journalist. We 419 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 4: got to see how it goes. I respect I like Tucker. 420 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 4: You like Tucker, and I respect his his HUTSPA a 421 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 4: lot and what he's done over the years. Does this 422 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 4: turn into just Vladimir Putin with the same talking points 423 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 4: about the threat for NATO et cetera, et cetera. Or 424 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,719 Speaker 4: is there something that we glean from this that is 425 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 4: that is new, that is novel. You know there are limits, right, 426 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 4: I mean, after nine to eleven if you said, I'm 427 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 4: not saying Putin is osamamd Lauden, but it would be 428 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 4: quite had an interview to sit down with oslaom and 429 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 4: Lauden a fter nine to eleven and ask him, hey, 430 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 4: so why do you do that? But I think people 431 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 4: have a problem with that, right, So it's not just 432 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 4: you talk to anybody because it's interesting, although maybe some 433 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 4: people disagree, maybe they say, oh my god, I. 434 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 2: Have any I mean it, bin Laden, I mean, I think, honestly, 435 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 2: if your job is to. 436 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 3: Be a journalist and there is a news maker. 437 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 4: When you interview someone, this is my perspective is not 438 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 4: I'm not a journalist. Do you think of yourself as 439 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 4: a journalist? Though this is word I mean it's a 440 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 4: little you know, I have opinions and views, right, I don't. 441 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 4: I don't pretend to be neutral ever. 442 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: Yeah right, but I I yes, on this show, you 443 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: and I are saying exactly what we think. But if, 444 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 2: for instance, I'm just tossing it out because you mentioned 445 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 2: Bin Laden he's dead. 446 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 3: If somebody from North Korea reached out. 447 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 2: To me and they said, Kim Jong un wants to 448 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 2: do a sit down interview because he saw your opinion 449 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 2: on the Chicago Bulls and he likes, he likes, He's 450 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 2: chosen you of all journalists that he would want to 451 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 2: sit down with. I think I could say I would 452 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 2: go and I would sit down across from Kim Jong u. 453 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 4: I mean, I'd be worried about all the time everybody. 454 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 4: I would look clay. 455 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 2: But I mean I wouldn't give my opinion. So I think, 456 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 2: you know, I would say, Megan. 457 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 4: Kelly has a super opinionated show, right, but I think 458 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 4: she would argue, hey, I can sit down and also 459 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 4: you can give a interview. Yeah, I think what would 460 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 4: fall under journalistic approach. But I just you know, the title. 461 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 4: I mean, I think journalists as a title is almost 462 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 4: always a fraud regardless. But that's not that's not I know, 463 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 4: that's kind of secondary to the fit to the main point, 464 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 4: which is to go and sit down and talk to Putin. 465 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 4: You know, I think I gotta see what I. 466 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 3: See how it goes. 467 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 2: I would say, I would say, yes, I think if 468 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 2: if I were in that position and the guy who's 469 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 2: currently in war, and I would say, look if somebody 470 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 2: could have talked to Hitler during World War Two and 471 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 2: actually heard whatever Hitler was going to say, again, you're 472 00:23:55,160 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: not endorsing to me. Leaders Giving speech and answering questions 473 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 2: in general is something that should be encouraged, even if 474 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 2: sometimes they're all see. 475 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 4: The problem though, play with with interviewing Putin is you're 476 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 4: interviewing him in Russia. You're not going to you know, 477 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 4: did the the home her home turf advantage here isn't 478 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 4: Oh I'm gonna get It's not like when I go 479 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 4: on the Bill mahershow and the imbeciles in the audience boomy. 480 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 4: It's they might just say you're not going back, yeah, 481 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 4: and I get it. They might decide that they're going 482 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 4: to hold you. That's not being Look what they just did. 483 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 4: They had to have the whole thing with Britney Rener. 484 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 4: I mean they've they've still got they've got that Wall 485 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 4: Street Journal journalist right now. You know much more in 486 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 4: the moment here, Evan Gorskovic. They're holding him, he's a 487 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 4: Wall Street Journal report everybody. They're holding him. They're keeping 488 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 4: him in a prison cell there. 489 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,479 Speaker 2: He did nothing, And I hope and I hope Tucker 490 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 2: would say, hey, I think based on all the evidence 491 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 2: I've seen, that guy should be released. 492 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 3: Really I don't know. 493 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 4: Well, but what I'm saying is, are you really able 494 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 4: to do an interview and speak truth to power when 495 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 4: the person sitting down with you as soon as those 496 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 4: lights go off could be like, yeah, no, we're just 497 00:24:58,760 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 4: gonna hold him for six months. 498 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. 499 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 4: And so that's the risk of going right, that's the 500 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 4: risk of gouding. So there's more dynamics here. This isn't like, oh, 501 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 4: Putin's at the un and you get to sit down 502 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 4: and have a chat with them where you can actually 503 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 4: really push him. I mean, I think I know what 504 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 4: he's going to say before he's First of all, it's 505 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 4: all through a translator, which means there's a lot that's 506 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 4: lost in translation. Obviously I'm not judging it either way. 507 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 4: I'm just saying this is tricky, you know, because I 508 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 4: remember a long time ago, at the height of the 509 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 4: Syrian Civil War. It's a long story, but someone came 510 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 4: to me in back channel and was saying, hey, I 511 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 4: think I could arrange for you and maybe a couple 512 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 4: of other people to sit down with Asad. Oh wow, 513 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 4: and uh and I It ended up not happening, and 514 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 4: it was very early stage, and I didn't even agree 515 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 4: to it. This is just an offer that was made. 516 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 4: Someone said, Hey, I think I could do that. I said, ah, 517 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 4: let me, let me think about that, and then you know, 518 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 4: it sort of fell apart. But I mean, remember what 519 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 4: happened with Tulcy Gabbard when she did that afterwards. Now, 520 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 4: some people thought that that was an act of bravery 521 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 4: for her to talk to the Assad regime, go to 522 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 4: Syria all of that. But there's a fine line between, 523 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,719 Speaker 4: you know, there's a fine line in some instances between 524 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 4: speaking truth to power, getting the answers people need. And 525 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 4: I'm hopeful that Tucker is going to do exactly that 526 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 4: and getting a little closer to like a Jane Fonda 527 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 4: experience where you're hanging out with the enemy and letting 528 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 4: them use you as a mountain. Now, that won't happen 529 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 4: with Tucker. But I'm just saying these are the addition 530 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 4: when you show up in a tyrants layer, there are 531 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 4: additional considerations that don't apply if you're just talking to 532 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 4: somebody here in the States. 533 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 2: One challenge, by the way, too, which you just raised 534 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 2: about being in Russia. I don't know how many countries 535 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 2: Vladimir Putin can even travel to right now, given that 536 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 2: there are war crimes accusations against him, where there wouldn't 537 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 2: be the threat that he might be arrested or detained 538 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 2: in some way. 539 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean I'm not even sure. I mean that 540 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 4: would be interesting to know. 541 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 2: Did Tucker say, hey, can we meet in a neutral 542 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 2: location outside of Russia? I don't know how many countries 543 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 2: I think Putin has traveled to China. I don't think 544 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 2: you'd feel much more you know, favorable in China than 545 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 2: you would in in Russia. 546 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 3: There. 547 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: I just I don't think there's very many democracies that 548 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 2: would allow Vladimir Putin on. 549 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 4: I mean, if I got you, if I got you 550 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 4: to sit down in China with Shi Jinping, would you 551 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 4: be like, hey, man, the million people you have in 552 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 4: concentration camps. That's a crime against humanity. You need to 553 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 4: stop that, you need to step down from power. I mean, Clay, 554 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 4: I don't know if you'd make it back if you did, honestly. 555 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 4: So this, this is the reality I get that we 556 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 4: live in, right. 557 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,719 Speaker 2: I mean, I get it. I mean that is that 558 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 2: is the challenge. So we'll see what happens. But I 559 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 2: do think it's worth mentioning that that's going to go on. 560 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 2: It's fascinating, right, look at it. 561 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 4: Look at us sitting here talking about all the different 562 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 4: possibilities but also the implications. And you know, Tucker is 563 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 4: one of my favorite people to watch and listen to 564 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 4: in the space generally. So I mean, I'm I'm I'm 565 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 4: definitely gonna listen to this interview. I'm just saying, there's 566 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 4: a it's there's it's a field of land mines, there 567 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 4: are land And. 568 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 2: By the way, we didn't even mention yes, obviously you're 569 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 2: in Russia, but also how long does the inner you go? 570 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 3: Do you get to keep your tapes? Right? 571 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 2: Like, who is recording it? There are many and to 572 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 2: your point, it's translated. So the difficulty there is you 573 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 2: have to rely that the translator is telling you the truth, 574 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 2: which is its own dynamic. Does Tucker have his own 575 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 2: translator translating the translator? It is going to be amazing, 576 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 2: I think to follow when we come back. By the way, 577 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 2: we should play this audio too. Biden did what we 578 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 2: told you he was going to do. He says, if 579 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 2: this border bill doesn't get passed, then the lack of 580 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 2: security at the border is Donald Trump's fault. And all 581 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: the MAGA Republicans will play that audio for you. 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Great time to tell 616 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 4: you about the podcast because if you missed anything, if 617 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 4: you want to listen again because it was that good, 618 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 4: or you want to hear some of our extra content. 619 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 4: The Buck Brief, Carol Markowitz's podcast, Tutor Dixon Podcast amazing 620 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 4: options for your on demand listening enjoyment. Download the iHeartRadio 621 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 4: app and you can subscribe for free and listen to 622 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 4: it all. There also our political Recap of the Week 623 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 4: podcast twenty four which is quite good. Clay, you had 624 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 4: a clip of Biden that you want to play. Am 625 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 4: I remembering this correctly from a few minutes ago. I'm 626 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 4: pulling a Biden right now. Go ahead call see it 627 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 4: up because I want everyone to hear it as well. 628 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Biden is now. I believe this has cut twenty six. 629 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 2: We told you that as soon as the border bill 630 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 2: was rejected, Biden would say, now Trump is responsible for 631 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 2: the lack of security. Republicans, the MAGA Republicans are responsible. 632 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 3: This was a clear. 633 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: Attempt to defray blame here. He is directly saying that 634 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:24,959 Speaker 2: earlier today. 635 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 7: But if the bill fails, I want to be absolutely 636 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 7: clear about something. American people are going to know why 637 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 7: it failed. I'll be taking this issue to the country 638 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 7: and the voters are going to know that is not 639 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 7: just a moment, just at the moment. We're going to 640 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 7: secure the border and fund these other programs. Trump and 641 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 7: the MAGA Republicans said no because they're afraid of Donald Trump. 642 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 7: Afraid of Donald Trump every day between now and November. 643 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 7: The American people are going to know that the only 644 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 7: reason the border is not secure is Donald Trump and 645 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 7: as Magga Republican friends, it's time for Republicans in the 646 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 7: Congress to show a little courage, to show the spine, 647 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 7: to make it clear to the American people that you 648 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 7: work for them, not for anyone else, and who I 649 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 7: work for, I work for the American people. 650 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 2: He's thirty five points underwater on the border right now. 651 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 3: Buck. 652 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 2: The worst of all of Joe Biden's approval ratings on 653 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 2: any issue is the border. This was inevitable that he 654 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 2: put to forward a bad bill. A lot of Republicans, 655 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 2: because they're gullible and dumb, frankly went for it. And 656 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 2: now he is going to try to defray that minus 657 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 2: thirty five number on the border by shifting the blame 658 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,959 Speaker 2: and saying Republicans and Trump are responsible for that. 659 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 3: Buck. 660 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 2: I don't think even people who are died in the 661 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 2: wool Democrats are of the belief that Joe Biden would 662 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 2: have a secure border. 663 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 4: Again, Steven Miller's great on this. He says, all he 664 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 4: has to do is. 665 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 2: Just put back in place all the policies that Trump 666 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 2: had via executive order, that he doesn't actually need any 667 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 2: bill passed in order to resecure the border. 668 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 669 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 4: One of the greatest impediments to better border security, better 670 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 4: safety on the streets, a whole range of things is 671 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 4: that the people who have made the wrong decisions would 672 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 4: have to admit that the other people, Republicans the right, 673 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 4: were correct. And that alone, I think is a big block. 674 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 4: It's one of the reasons why the crime policies are 675 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 4: so slow to change in cities, even though people are suffering. 676 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 4: And with a border that Biden is, he's acting like 677 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 4: he inherited some problem when in fact he created it. 678 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 4: And because other people won't go along and take you know, 679 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 4: mutual blame effectively for what's going on there, he tells 680 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 4: this story about how they don't want to fix it, 681 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 4: and even what he's doing isn't going to fix it. 682 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 4: I should just note the bill is not a good bill, correct, 683 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 4: and I think that's why it has been so soundly defeated. 684 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 4: But this was all just meant to give the Democrats 685 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 4: a talking point, which then brings up why would Republicans 686 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 4: go along with it at all? What's the point? Why 687 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 4: do this? Why give them this something to say it's bipartisan. 688 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 4: It should have been a strict party line. Democrats are 689 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 4: trying to get this nonsense done. 690 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 3: We say no. 691 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 4: I wanted to hit this. I meant to hit it yesterday. 692 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 4: This is a VIP listener email. 693 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 2: Nick wrote in we had the conversation about the South 694 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: Carolina primary, and we had multiple callers saying different things. 695 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 2: I wanted to read this because this is accurate, and 696 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 2: I'm meant to get to it yesterday. Nick says, I'm 697 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 2: a former poll clerk in South Carolina. South Carolina election 698 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,439 Speaker 2: law allows each individual to choose which primary in which 699 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 2: to vote. A Democrat can vote in the GOP primary 700 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 2: and or Republican can vote in the Democrat primary. You 701 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 2: can't vote in both. If you voted as a dem 702 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 2: you can only vote in the DEM runoff. That's if 703 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 2: there's a runoff if you voted in the general election 704 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 2: any Canada you wish. So Again, the point on the 705 00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 2: extremely low turnout in the Democrat primary Saturday in South 706 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 2: Carolina is there are still theoretically a lot of people 707 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 2: who didn't vote in that primary only twenty five percent 708 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 2: of Democrats did, who could show up and vote. 709 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 3: In the Republican primary. 710 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 2: I just think that's something to keep in your mind 711 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 2: as we move closer to that primary season. And so 712 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 2: I appreciate that email from Nick, who is a former 713 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 2: poll observer in South Carolina. That is actually common. I 714 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 2: think eleven of the sixteen states buck on Super Tuesday, 715 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 2: including my home state of Tennessee. You just walk in 716 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 2: and say, I want to vote in the Democrat primary. 717 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 2: I want to vote in the Republican primary. That's actually 718 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 2: very common across the country, as opposed to being a 719 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 2: registered member officially of either party and only able to 720 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:45,919 Speaker 2: vote in one or the other. 721 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 4: Soames and Louisville, we'll get you in here at the end. 722 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 4: What's up, James. 723 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 8: From the home of the Kentucky Derby First Area and 724 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 8: may most famous base horse in the world. I just 725 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 8: wanted to bring up a little point about this border bill. 726 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 8: It's not really a border bill. It's the let's save 727 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 8: our big blue cities, the sanctuary city type bill. There's 728 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,760 Speaker 8: a provisions in there that is going to give tens 729 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 8: of millions of dollars to bail out these these thirty 730 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 8: sneaky scumbags. Democratic socialists and their senators are trying to 731 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 8: help out the blue Democrat socialist mayors and just like 732 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 8: they did with the COVID just like they did with 733 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 8: the COVID moneys, saving all the blue state pensions with 734 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 8: the tens of if not hundreds of billions of dollars 735 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 8: that they snuck in there. 736 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 4: So it's important. 737 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 2: They're trying to make all of us taxpayers bail out 738 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 2: the left wing excesses and the sanctuary cities. Don't forget 739 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 2: what they're trying to do here. Don't forget the blame shifting. 740 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 2: We told you it was going to happen, It's already 741 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 2: happening nine months. 742 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 3: Make your voice heard