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Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Camra Jeedge.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we are on for our final episode talking

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Speaker 2: about Orange County for this season to teas in a

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Speaker 2: Pod and a sea. We are so grateful to have you,

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Speaker 2: Cynthia and all of your hot takes. All Right, So

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Speaker 2: we're going to go through these best moments best slash

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Speaker 2: worst moments for some. But it starts off where Shannon

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Speaker 2: says on camera John was ready to take the next

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Speaker 2: step but dumped her after filming ended. Emily says that

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Speaker 2: Shannon shares things with people she's on a show with,

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Speaker 2: then acts like she doesn't understand how the show works.

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Speaker 2: Do we agree with Emily and that if you're on

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Speaker 2: a reality show, everything is fair game if it's shared

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Speaker 2: between the cast.

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Speaker 3: I think if you choose to be on the show,

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Speaker 3: you know, everything is fair game. Like for the most part.

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Speaker 3: The only time I will say you're crossing the line

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Speaker 3: is anything with kids, anything, it's kind of crossing line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would have to agree with you

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Speaker 1: and say, like, if you're on a show, I know personally,

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Speaker 1: if I'm going to tell Emily, Gina, Heather, anybody anything,

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Speaker 1: there is a chance it's gonna be brought up later

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Speaker 1: on the show.

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Speaker 2: Now it's true you have.

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Speaker 1: Alliances with certain people on the show.

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Speaker 2: I can't take the word alliances.

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Speaker 1: You have ships with certain people on the show, and

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Speaker 1: maybe you you don't repeat certain things, like if I

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Speaker 1: have a friendship with Shannon and sometimes we talk and

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Speaker 1: we don't talk about the show, has nothing to do

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Speaker 1: with the show. And you know, if if I'm going

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Speaker 1: and telling this to somebody that's not necessarily my good

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Speaker 1: friend on the show, I got a good drink on purpose,

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Speaker 1: I gotta believe it's gonna come back and hit me

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Speaker 1: the face.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, I think it's just smart.

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Speaker 1: Don't put anything in writing, don't say anything you don't

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Speaker 1: want repeated.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a slippery slope, especially when you're actually on

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Speaker 3: a show with someone, because you know, there's certain things

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Speaker 3: that if it plays out and it's just the truth

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Speaker 3: of what's happening, it's hard to be like, no, that

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Speaker 3: didn't happen, and then they show a flashback of it happening.

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Speaker 3: So I've gone through great links to try to protect

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Speaker 3: my friendships on the show as much as I could.

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Speaker 3: And then when I couldn't. It's kind of like, all right, well,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna sit this one out because I can't protect you.

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Speaker 3: But I like, there's things that have happened on and

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Speaker 3: off the show in some of our relationships that I

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Speaker 3: will literally take to the grave, like, no matter what

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Speaker 3: they say about me, too, will not do it because

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Speaker 3: that's just the kind of friend I am the off show,

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Speaker 3: that's just me.

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Speaker 2: But then once it is exposed, it is up to

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Speaker 2: that current housewife to then own up to those things

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Speaker 2: versus blame everybody else for those things happening, because clearly.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I dealt with this year. As soon

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Speaker 1: as it was brought up and I put my two

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Speaker 2: This is a lie.

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Speaker 1: You're lying.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not lying. I mean I felt like this

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Speaker 2: sad part for this was and I'm not saying I

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Speaker 2: would be any different. But do you think that John

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Speaker 2: enjoyed being on the show when everything was great for

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Speaker 2: him and he was getting that good everybody was loving him?

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, let me ask you this question. Do don't

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Speaker 1: most people enjoy being on the show. Don't most people

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Speaker 1: sudden you're on TV and everybody's praising you, and you're

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Speaker 1: getting special treatment and you know, getting reservations wherever you want. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think most people love being on the show.

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Speaker 3: I agree, it's so good. It's a great experience for them.

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Speaker 3: It's only when the bread dot is on their head.

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Speaker 1: But then, but then when things flip and then everybody

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Speaker 1: sees you for who you are and hate you, then

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Speaker 1: it's not fun on this show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what I do appreciate about John is he

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Speaker 2: doing all the things. And that's similar to like Shane.

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Speaker 2: When Shane had his bad episode, like his bad season

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Speaker 2: was Shane? Nor is Shane.

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Speaker 1: I can't stand when the guys get on there on

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Speaker 3: I can't stand that John was over there like yeah,

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Speaker 3: fighting for scenes. I made it literally seem like every

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Speaker 3: really wanted to shoot. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Do you think he was trying to protect Shannon? Do

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Speaker 2: you think yeah, he was telling her I want to

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Speaker 2: marry you and leading her on and doing those things

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Speaker 2: because he didn't want to hurt her on teletoon.

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Speaker 3: You know how time?

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Speaker 1: Do you know how many times my husband says has

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Speaker 1: said things on camera when you get put on the spot.

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Speaker 2: Then I'm like, what do you talk afterwards?

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Speaker 1: Why would you even say that? And he's like, I

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Speaker 1: didn't know what to say, Like I didn't know what

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Speaker 2: Edwin said the worst thing ever to me on camera,

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Speaker 2: still to this day, this worst thing he's ever said

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Speaker 2: to me in the history of our relationship. He said

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Speaker 2: it to me on my first season and it was

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Speaker 2: never shown. And still to this day, I think my

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Speaker 2: lucky stars because men go in, they clamp up, and

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Speaker 2: then they say stupid shit that in real life you

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Speaker 2: can laugh off or say, go yourself, Yeah, but I

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Speaker 2: think those men can't think ten steps ahead.

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Speaker 1: And when you're playing, when you're on the show, you

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Speaker 1: have to If I say this, like, am I going

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Speaker 1: to get like a flashback of me doing that?

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Like, so like Eddie doesn't think he does well, whatever

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Speaker 1: like why would you say that?

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Speaker 3: And I think I think the women on the show

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Speaker 3: smallest thing can turn into a big thing. So we're like,

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Speaker 3: I don't really like self edit, but we're not stupid.

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Speaker 3: It after like a couple of seasons, like there's nothing

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Speaker 2: I get it now. Yeah, I will say.

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Speaker 1: Eddie got to know John a little bit while we

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Speaker 1: were filming, and I asked him, I said, do you

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Speaker 1: feel like he's just once camera time? He goes, No,

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say it. Man, just don't seem like

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Speaker 3: he's as in love with Shannon as Shannon is the man.

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Speaker 3: That's just what I'm saying. I'm just saying two people,

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Speaker 3: two great people that just don't work together.

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Speaker 1: Well, it seems like they have a very toxic relationship

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Speaker 1: and you throw alcohol and you throw TV cameras in

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Speaker 1: front of it, and it's not gonna end, Well.

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Speaker 3: What about?

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Speaker 2: To me? This was a really big red And listen,

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Speaker 2: every time I've ever been around Shannon, I have absolutely

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Speaker 2: loved She has been nothing but kind and funny, she

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Speaker 2: loves to make herself too seriously all of these things.

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Speaker 2: But when she started making the proclamations on this second

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Speaker 4: Gonna be sharing storms with dor and I'm doing this

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Speaker 4: show but I've shown more than everybody else and I

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Speaker 4: moment that she's just going to throw out anything she can,

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Speaker 4: or like, why.

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Speaker 2: Was that happening?

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Speaker 1: I disagreed when she did that and said I did this.

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Speaker 1: We've all done a lot of things. I've been on

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Speaker 1: the show for thirteen fourteen, I don't remember how many years,

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Speaker 1: thirteen years, and I've gone through a lot. Gina's gone

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Speaker 1: through a lot. A lot of us have gone through

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Speaker 1: a lot on the show. So's she's not doing any

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I agree. I agree. When I saw it,

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Speaker 3: I was like, I've literally given the blood out of

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Speaker 3: my veins to Atlanta, Okay, to divorces my child came

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Speaker 3: out flew them the show like anything that really happened

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Speaker 3: in my life. I gave it to the Real House

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Speaker 3: of Atlanta. And I did it because I signed up

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, some things are harder to show

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Speaker 3: when it actually is thankful to actually show it go

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Speaker 3: through it. But we we've all done that, and that's

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Speaker 2: I all issue with people talking about themselves and the

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Speaker 2: it just I don't know why it makes me feel

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Speaker 2: And also I can't help myself. I don't call her

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Speaker 2: Shannon storms the Door. I don't. I just call her Shan.

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Speaker 1: Do you call him John Jensen, John Johns.

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Speaker 2: I do call him John Jansen. I do. But the

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Speaker 2: start saying those things and then they're actually airing it.

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Speaker 2: But then when she bold face said she doesn't like Gina,

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Speaker 2: I I know there are moments where I'm like, this

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Speaker 2: we're not that close. But has there ever been a

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Speaker 2: way to this day where you could just because even

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Speaker 2: person who everyone knows, I still wouldn't say I just

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Speaker 2: don't like you. I would say, like, we have.

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Speaker 1: Issues, You're not my type of girl.

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Speaker 2: It's all I have to say.

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Speaker 3: There's a way to say it, for sure. But you

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Speaker 3: was there is some comfort in knowing if you just

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Speaker 3: really don't like me, because that way I can just

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Speaker 3: navigate around you. You just put it out there and

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Speaker 3: that's what it is. Then it's easy to go against you.

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Speaker 3: It's easy to hold you on fire time like it's

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Speaker 3: it's actually a blessed to be like, okay, so we're

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Speaker 3: not gonna be we're gonna be enemies on the ship.

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Speaker 3: So this is clear, because the relationships gets super confusing

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Speaker 3: sometimes when you're on a show together. It really really does.

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Speaker 3: So if you're just gonna declare yourself and put it

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Speaker 3: out there you don't like me, then okay. If you

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Speaker 3: for us to try to work on a relationship, all right,

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Speaker 3: let's go. You don't like me, then I don't really

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Speaker 3: I'm happy, I'm a happy and then very sleepy drunk.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm happy, sloppy sleepy.

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Speaker 1: gen stuff god and how it just got rep that

437
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 1: was like I should have said my piece, said whatever

438
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 1: and just let it go. I think throwing the napkin

439
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 1: in her face was probably that, like the best thing.

440
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,640
Speaker 1: When she said to me like I had the hots

441
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 1: for her boyfriend, I'm like, no, sweetie, I have a

442
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 1: pretty hot husband.

443
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 2: In the moment when you threw the napkin, because I

444
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,360
Speaker 2: couldn't talk to you about this stuff during filming when

445
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 2: you threw the napkin, did you notice in the moment, shit,

446
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,919
Speaker 2: I just really screwed this up or we were like,

447
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 2: she's not not in the moment. Not in the moment.

448
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 1: I was too drunk, and part of my problem was

449
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 1: the season as I drank too much and as you know,

450
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not much of a drinker, like I.

451
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 3: Love Yeah, yeah, that's such a real thing. And for me,

452
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 3: like one of my biggest regrets on the eleven years

453
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 3: I did Atlanta is when I actually kicked Porsche like

454
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 3: I still to this day like hate. Then I was

455
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 3: drinking too. We're on the boat and yeah eaten, and

456
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,199
Speaker 3: I was going through whatever I was going through and

457
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 3: till this day, that's like, how did I let myself

458
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 3: do that? And thank god we were able to just

459
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 3: get on the other side of it really quickly and

460
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 3: move on. But that is one go down my biggest regret.

461
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I mean I think I think all

462
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 2: in all, we saw the positives of every single woman

463
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 2: on Orange County and we also saw some negatives for

464
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 2: each one of them, which is where I think, you know,

465
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 2: you have a dynamic cast. And I think towards the

466
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 2: end when Tamra and Heather kind of have the moment

467
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 2: and Tamra says she's always loved Heather and it's very

468
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 2: difficult to not have Heather in her life, and Tamra

469
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 2: said she wants to move forward, and then Heather says

470
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 2: something along the lines of like you're my housewife, vampire.

471
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 2: We're like, I'm going to get it wrong, but like

472
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 2: you suck my blood, and then I, you know, whatever

473
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 2: it made.

474
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she's been telling me that from day one,

475
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 1: for ten years or however long it's been I've done her.

476
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 2: But I actually think it's truth. I think that, but

477
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 2: you guys are so different but also so similar in

478
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 2: certain ways. Yeah, that it really makes dynamic television. It

479
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 2: doesn't feel like a television friendship. Even though you guys

480
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 2: aren't always in the best place. Like you guys are

481
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 2: actually trying to be the most authentic that you can be,

482
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 2: and your most authentic self will sometimes drive each other freakin' mad.

483
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: I think we've never had a problem. We've always had

484
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 1: a really good friendship. I think coming back knowing, you know,

485
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 1: not knowing where my place was, knowing that those things

486
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 1: were said on the podcast, and then hearing from other

487
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: cast members that you know, what was said about me

488
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 1: from her, it really spun my head. And of course

489
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 1: I'm coming back and I want to make a statement.

490
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 1: You know this this show. I'm not saying I'm coming

491
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: back just to make a statement, but you're a little

492
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: bit more heightened, just a little bit, and I think

493
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: that you know, these are things that you have in

494
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,719
Speaker 1: your back pocket that you're like, you know, what are

495
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: we doing?

496
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 2: What are we talking about?

497
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 3: Do you like me?

498
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 2: Do you not like me? Like?

499
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: We went over this a million times, so now I

500
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 1: don't think we'll ever go back to that. We're going

501
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: to lunch next week. I'm going to La hopefully seeing

502
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: one of her two houses that she bought in la

503
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: hopefully both of them, and just you know, taken it

504
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: back to where it was. I think dislikes you the most, Jen, probably,

505
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 1: but I think Jen knows I'm right. You know, Jen

506
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: reached out to Taylor to ask how I was, and

507
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: you know, she could have easily reached out to me directly.

508
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: She knows I would never like go off on her,

509
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: even though she probably was afraid because she knows that

510
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: her and Ryan both have been going after me in

511
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 1: the press. And you know, as much as I don't

512
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: like it and it's coming out of left field, I

513
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 1: don't understand it, It's not the best look for her.

514
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 3: I really wish Jen had spoken up more in the

515
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 3: season about like like, I would have liked to have

516
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 3: seen you guys like go through all this more on

517
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 3: camera because friendship was very, very confusing for me. And

518
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 3: what you know, the reason why I was kind of like,

519
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 3: you know, team Jen a lot Indian was because she

520
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 3: said it and once you know, everybody made it clear

521
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: that this guy was you guys didn't think that he

522
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 3: was a great guy for her. I felt like I

523
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 3: never saw scenes where Jen was asking for you guys

524
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 3: opinions in the first place, like like she was like

525
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 3: sitting you guys, you guys, what should I do? Like

526
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 3: I never saw saying what she seemed like she actually wanted.

527
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 2: Wanted any feedback.

528
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but other, don't you feel like other than her

529
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: scenes with Ryan, she really didn't get into the mix

530
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: much at all. Well, I think didn't have a lot

531
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: to say to any of the girls.

532
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: Well, I think then.

533
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 3: She talked about it with Gina a little bit and

534
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 3: they talked about something else.

535
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 2: I can't Oh, well that where Gina was really upsetting

536
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 2: because she cheated and all those things. I think we

537
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 2: have to understand who Jen is outside of a relationship

538
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,479
Speaker 2: with Ryan, because that's all we have seen so only

539
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 2: seeing a like frant like, if you only see me

540
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 2: and Edwin to you're gonna see Yeah, you're gonna see

541
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 2: fifty percent of who I am. But if you see

542
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 2: me outside of my relationship with that, I'm not gonna

543
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 2: say I'm a different person, but you're gonna see a

544
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 2: whole nother layer.

545
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

546
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 2: And if you only see somebody through somebody else's eyes

547
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 2: and what you want, you know, people to see, it's

548
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: it's not authentic. And that's what I think we're missing.

549
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 2: I want her to.

550
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 3: That's you know, that's such a good point because when

551
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 3: I came on with Peter, my husband who I married

552
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 3: my first season on the show, Peter has a very

553
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 3: big TV personality. I got drowned by him. Like, you know,

554
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 3: it's like I was like, oh, you know, Cynthia doesn't

555
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 3: have a boy, she doesn't have this whatever whatever, because

556
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 3: he was just such a strong personality, was always like

557
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,959
Speaker 3: barking all the time and like you know, making you know,

558
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 3: his two cents known. And that was at a time

559
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 3: where the men really weren't even doing that on the show.

560
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 3: So he like definitely came in hot, but that's just

561
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 3: who he is, and it just made me On one hand,

562
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 3: I guess people were like, oh my god, it's so

563
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 3: you know, they would think, well, he's helping her be

564
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 3: you know, imported on the show. But at the same time,

565
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 3: it was hurting me at the same time because I

566
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 3: didn't have a voice, I was weak because you know,

567
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 3: it felt like he was kind of running a lot

568
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 3: of things. So you know, it could go either way

569
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 3: with that whole thing, and I feel like the Brian

570
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 3: they can definitely outshadow who, you know.

571
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: Who whatever it is. We're watching at this point, and

572
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 2: I think if she can come in and and possibly

573
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 2: build a real relationship with somebody on the show, I

574
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 2: think there is a future for her. But I think

575
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: right now she's just dabbing her feet wherever, like you know,

576
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: wherever she can.

577
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: Like I think, unfortunately what's going on in social media

578
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: and things I've heard, I think that she's gonna want

579
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: to come back this season continuing this. You know this,

580
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: all this stuff about Ryan, and I'm telling you right now,

581
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: I'm not going there. I said what I had to say.

582
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: I'm done with it.

583
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 2: Move on.

584
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 3: We don't even want to see too much more.

585
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: I know nobody, but I feel like that's that's gonna happen.

586
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you just say I don't care. You

587
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 2: guys are have you're happy. I want to hear another

588
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 2: word about it, and then if you need me when

589
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 2: he cheats again, I'm.

590
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 3: Here, Like you guys seriously have to close it in

591
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 3: the first episode and be like, okay, sit down, have

592
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 3: that drink, go on the boat. You guys love going

593
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: boats and staff have a conversation. It's done, and then

594
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 3: we hear no more about it, and then she has

595
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 3: to show us some other staff like, yeah, but I

596
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 3: would like to see her get a second season because

597
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 3: first seasons hard, like you just don't know what you're doing, honestly,

598
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 3: and then Ryan up so much of her story that

599
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 3: you know, we were just like okay, whatever.

600
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I try, like if you're happy, then you know,

601
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: more power to you. And I hope to see I

602
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: hope to see another side of you, guys, because.

603
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: What I'm not you guys, just her. We don't need

604
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: to know so much about him. I don't watch the

605
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 2: housewives to watch the husbands.

606
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: He thinks he's a cast member, like a full blown

607
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: cast member.

608
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: Well, he should have shown up to the reunion, because

609
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 2: if you're a cast member and you don't come to

610
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: the reunion, you get fined.

611
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 3: You know.

612
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: Could you imagine it?

613
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 3: Literally every episode they literally added Peter to a lineup,

614
00:29:59,120 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 3: each of them.

615
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: Could you imagine me and Eddie after every episode going,

616
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: let's recap this episode, what do you think, Gutty? He

617
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: would rather poke his eyeballs out Peter.

618
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 3: They had him right there the whole time, and I

619
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 3: was like, he gave him a nickname. Patricia was like

620
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 3: crazy for the next ten years. Oh god, this is crazy.

621
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, well you guys. I had so much

622
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 2: fun with you. Cynthia. We appreciate you stepping in and

623
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 2: doing all that you do. We want you to keep

624
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 2: coming on with us. And Tamra, thank you so much

625
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 2: for entertaining us this season. Oh I'm so glad it over.

626
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 3: Guys.

627
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: We needed you do it.

628
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 3: No, you definitely killed it. The season would not have

629
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 3: been the same without you. Even when I was like,

630
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 3: oh man, what is happening like, it was like it

631
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 3: just moved the season and I'm hooked. I'm invested in you, guys,

632
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 3: regardless of whether I recap or not.

633
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: She's gonna keep watching, whether she's getting paid.

634
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: I gotta see what's gonna I'm ready some peace yye guys,

635
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: good luck, good luck with that peace camera. Now I

636
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: have to deal with you all right.

637
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: Bye guys, Bye,