1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: We are in the final weeks of the year, and 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: if you are a small business owner, an entrepreneur, a 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: startup founder, I highly suggest you listen to my recent 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: episode Evaluating your Tech Stack because at the end of 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: the year, you want to start thinking about what systems 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: have you been using that no longer serve you? 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But 35 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: John Villard is programmed. 36 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: Lead of this SAYRE task Force at. 37 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: Northwestern Mutual, which stands for Sustained Action for Racial Equity 38 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: Sarah Sarah encompasses an accelerator in Northmester Mutuals ongoing commitment 39 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: to fight racism, prejudice, and social injustice in all forms 40 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: and focuses on making BOWLD long term positive impact within 41 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: Black communities. Through SAYRE, they're focusing and supporting black entrepreneurship, 42 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: black small business supplier diversity accessibilities for clients and other 43 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: important enterprises initiatives. So prior to Sayer, John was senior 44 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: director of Centralized Supervision at Northwestern Mutual. And Northwestern Mutual 45 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: actually recently committed one hundred and seventy five million dollars 46 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: to reduce the wealth gap and support businesses and entrepreneurs 47 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: as they continue to grow and create positive economic momentum 48 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: within local communities. And as we reported in October, they've 49 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: made a total of sixteen investments nationally and local to Milwaukee, 50 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: which has led to further investments of nearly fifty five 51 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: diverse businesses, the majority of which are black owned. Enjoyed 52 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: this conversation with John Vard. John's good to have you here. 53 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 3: Willis an honor pleasure to be with you. 54 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely. So you are program lead for Sustained Action for 55 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: Racial Equity task Force at Northwestern Mutual, and I want 56 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: you to talk a little bit about how you came 57 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: into that role, a little bit about your personal story. 58 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 4: Sure for sure. So I am a first generation American. 59 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 4: My parents both immigrated from Haiti in the late seventies 60 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 4: and met in Chicago, and so I grew up in 61 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 4: a small household of five but with a deep, deep 62 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 4: connection to a Haitian community that was based in Emison. 63 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 4: So titaned Haitian family all about kind of uplifting each 64 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 4: other and making a way for ourselves in the country. 65 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 4: So fast forward, I started working at Northwestern Mutual and 66 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 4: have had an amazing journey throughout my thirteen years with 67 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 4: the company. But in the summer of twenty twenty, was 68 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 4: finding myself really sort of having an identity crisis around 69 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 4: you know, what am I doing in this kind of 70 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 4: corporate space, not really being as much part of the solution, 71 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 4: you know, certainly post George Floyd and everything that happened 72 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 4: that summer, and I was thinking about my wife was 73 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 4: that was nine months pregnant at the time, and I 74 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 4: was thinking about what would I tell my son about 75 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 4: our roles to play, you know, during this really trying 76 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 4: time for the country, and like what do we do 77 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 4: about anything? 78 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 3: Right? 79 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 4: And this Sareah role came up in terms of like 80 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 4: how do you align the mission and objectives of a 81 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 4: corporate entity with actionable impact. 82 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 3: Outside our walls. 83 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 4: And so I went from very much being on the 84 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,239 Speaker 4: brink of like I don't think this is this corporate 85 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 4: thing is for me anymore. I think I need to 86 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 4: like really step out to now. Not only can I 87 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 4: have a meaningful career here, but I. 88 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 3: Can drive like real impact. 89 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 4: And I would argue, maybe even more so than some 90 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 4: local politicians or what have you can when you can 91 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 4: channel millions of dollars of corporate resources to moving the needle. 92 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, so I'm interested. Twenty twenty was a 93 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 1: year that a lot of corporations were making promises, you know, 94 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: around what I want to talk about impact funds and 95 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: why it's important to Northwestern Mutual because you know, you 96 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: guys committed a hundred and seventy five million last I 97 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: looked to your impact fund designed to you know, help neighborhoods, 98 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: to small business owners and et cetera. There's ultimately no 99 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: entity outside holding people accountable. So how do you guys 100 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: hold yourself accountable to the promises that you guys have 101 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: made to you know, these communities. 102 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great question. It's a really important one. 103 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 4: And so what I love about the way our CEO, 104 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 4: John Schlisky has kind of set this all up is 105 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 4: we treat this as though it's any other business imperative. Right, 106 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 4: This is not like a nice side project. We have 107 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 4: a budget with oversight, executive oversight. We have you know, 108 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 4: regular cadence of meetings with our CEO at the table 109 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 4: saying where is this and why isn't this moving fast enough? 110 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 4: What are the impediments unless clear them? And we've had 111 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 4: that really since its inception. And the other thing that 112 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 4: I think is really cool is we have very specific 113 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 4: measurements again like you would any other say, sales strategy 114 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 4: or growth measure right, and we're held accountable littles on 115 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 4: a monthly basis. So stuff is not looking right or 116 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 4: moving at the pace that folks think it should, believe 117 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 4: you'll have to answer to that at the literally senior 118 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 4: most level of the company. And that's what makes it 119 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 4: a game changer is that you have CEO investment in 120 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 4: presence basically day in and day out for the last 121 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 4: three plus years on this. 122 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: One of the things I love about what you guys 123 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: are working on not only funding you know, things externally, 124 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: but also incorporating small businesses, minority owned businesses, black owned businesses, 125 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: and your vendor profile and so often you know, because 126 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: I've have small businesses and you hear this term about 127 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: capacity a lot. You know, we don't work with them 128 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: because they don't have the capacity, And so how do 129 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: you clear that hurdle and what kind of responsibility might 130 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: you feel to help people build the capacity so that 131 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: they can do more stuff? 132 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that question. 133 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 4: So one of the things that I love about what 134 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 4: we did with the supplier diversity or business diversity spaces. Okay, uh, 135 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 4: the large, tried and true suppliers that we that just 136 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 4: maybe do have the capacity that we've relied on for years. 137 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 4: It's holding them accountable to as the experts in that 138 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 4: particular field, how are you building up other small like 139 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 4: smaller businesses or more nascent businesses. And so we changed 140 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 4: our contract language and our expectations of the those bigger 141 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 4: vendors that we are in a position to kind of 142 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 4: jump away from right away to how are they building 143 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 4: up others and certain targets within our spend with them 144 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 4: that need to go to those smaller, newer businesses. In addition, 145 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 4: we're doing things like a mentor protege relationship where Okay, 146 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 4: your business may not be ready for a fortune one 147 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 4: hundred supply chain today, but how can we dig in 148 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 4: your books, dig in your pitches, dig into how you 149 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 4: present you know your business, proposition your value, and help 150 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 4: coach you up so that you're ready and we'll go 151 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 4: first and bring you into our portfolio. But then not 152 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 4: only that, you're ready to go compete for others, and 153 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 4: so recognizing that there's there's a heavy front investment to 154 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 4: get people to that point of maturation. Everybody's not ready 155 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 4: for this for fortunate one hundred and what comes with that? 156 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 3: Right? 157 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: Do you feel like it's your responsibility to help people 158 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: not only get them in and vet them to see 159 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: if they can do their work, but also to help 160 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: them Do you feel like that's your responsibility one percent? 161 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 3: Hundred percent? 162 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 4: I think specifically as it relates to like a place 163 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 4: like Milwaukee, which has been our home for oh, I 164 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 4: don't know, one hundred and fifty plus years, there's definitely 165 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 4: this this this ownership of what are we doing as 166 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 4: a huge corporate citizen, as one of the biggest corporate 167 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 4: citizens to uplift others and invest in others in our 168 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 4: own backyard first and foremost. So you'll see, even as 169 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 4: you talk about like the Impact Investing Fund, we have 170 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 4: a whole sleeve that is just dedicated to what's going 171 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 4: on in our backyard at Milwaukee. Right, So we can 172 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 4: be doing all these things on the national sleep, but 173 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 4: if we're not making those investments in our community to 174 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 4: build those businesses up down the street, yeah, that's not 175 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 4: really worthwhile. 176 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: You know, I was doing some research on the Grow 177 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: Gather Against the Gap conference and I found this quote 178 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: from you, and you had said, you know, we have 179 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: a small army dedicated unapologetically to accelerating progress and not 180 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: just with today in mind. Everything we do at NM 181 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: is with the next one hundred years in mind, not 182 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: just the next quarter. So like, talk up because you 183 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: mentioned some of the those that you guys hold yourself 184 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: accountable to talk about some of those goals that you're 185 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: measuring against to see if you're actually making progress. 186 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely so. 187 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 4: I think if you can think about our work in 188 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 4: say as sort of being like within our house, get 189 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 4: our own house in order first and foremost. So it's 190 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 4: what's the representation look like across all levels of the organization, 191 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 4: So not just frontline you know kind of folks answering 192 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 4: the phones, but what do we look like in the 193 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 4: executive ranks. And I think our best sort of barometer 194 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 4: for our measurement for successes, Does. 195 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 3: It look like the nation that we operate in? Right? 196 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 4: If we're a national company and let's just say black folks, 197 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 4: for example, are thirteen and a half percent roughly, well, 198 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 4: we should at least be reflective of that thirteen and 199 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 4: a half percent, Not that it's a quota per se, 200 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 4: but that's a good starting point to say, do we 201 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 4: even look like the nation we're trying to serve? 202 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 3: Right? So we have that, So that's kind of getting 203 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 3: our own house in order. 204 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 4: And then one of the things that we're doing externally, 205 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 4: it's all about the goals of you know, one, helping 206 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 4: to close the wealth gap. So how are we putting 207 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 4: the hundreds of billions of dollars that we, as an 208 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 4: enormous institutional investor have putting it to work in building 209 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 4: small business, building black businesses of varying sizes, right, narrowing 210 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 4: that wealth gap through investment, access to capital, et cetera. 211 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 4: And then the last piece is what our company does 212 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 4: is leave people off better off than we found them 213 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 4: with financial plans, you know, risk mitigation strategies, right, things 214 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 4: like life insurance that black folks folks may not know, 215 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 4: have a higher propensity, they have a higher desire for 216 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 4: life insurance than any other segment in the country. There's 217 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 4: this like this, this notion of legacy and paying it 218 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 4: for it. How are we reaching more black households to 219 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 4: help give them access to that, to those critical products 220 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 4: and strategies to help protect their family for generations. So 221 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 4: we talk about more black households, We talk about putting 222 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 4: more billions of dollars to work. We talk about, you know, 223 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 4: diversifying our supplier pipelines and things of that nature, and 224 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 4: then of course getting our own house in order. Uh. 225 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: You previously mentioned Milwaukee, which I love. So a lot 226 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: of the work I'm passionate about is about the middle 227 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: is because I recognize that most of us who are 228 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: interested in tech and et cetera don't live in New 229 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: York at LA. We live in these other cities. And 230 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: so what is unique or important or an advantage of 231 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: being based in Milwaukee? Then a lot of other places 232 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: that you guys could be Yeah, yeah, are their advantages? 233 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think so. 234 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 4: I think as somebody that is raising us his son 235 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 4: in Milwaukee, I definitely think so. I think when I 236 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,599 Speaker 4: think about Milwaukee, I first and foremost think about like 237 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 4: the value proposition to like live and just have a 238 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 4: wonderful life. And actually I was talking about this with 239 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 4: a colleague of mind even today. The accessibility, the the 240 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 4: the access to to culture, to to just good hard 241 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 4: working people, like there's just all the things that you 242 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 4: would want in a place to sort of raise a family. 243 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: So that check there. 244 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 4: I think that there is tremendous opportunity as you think 245 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 4: about Milwaukee being a destination for talent, that we might 246 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 4: have some work to do in terms of the external image, 247 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 4: but once you actually come and experience it, it is 248 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 4: a really special place with I would argue world class 249 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 4: amenities that are kind of a best kept secret, if 250 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 4: you will, so that when people get there it's. 251 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 3: Like, oh, wow, this is dope. Milwaukee's dope. 252 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 4: Come people walking into summer, come in the winter, coming 253 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 4: this summer, and you'll say, wow, I never would have 254 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 4: envisioned this about you know, Wisconsin or specifically Milwaukee. 255 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 3: And so I think as a place to live, it's huge. 256 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 4: When you're talking about building tech talent and things of 257 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 4: that nature, I think what you have are several really 258 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 4: really strong corporate entities, strong partnerships across you know, government, 259 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 4: and things of that nature that are really trying to 260 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 4: create an ecosystem that fosters that kind of creative growth, 261 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 4: if you will. So you have a bunch of leaders 262 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 4: in the area that are really invested in making it 263 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 4: a destination a choice for talent, for tech talent in 264 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 4: particular of them. 265 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the Impact Fund again, and 266 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,599 Speaker 1: so I imagine I don't know this, but I imagine a 267 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: lot of the bet you're making or funds that you're 268 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: exporting from your bank counts to other folks, is put 269 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: into organizations who are doing the work in those communities. 270 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna let you speak to that, but 271 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: I want to talk about how organizations who are doing 272 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: the work reach out to you guys to say, we're 273 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: doing this great work in whatever city. Can we be 274 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: part of this thing? How does the fund work? 275 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? 276 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 4: Absolutely, So I would start by saying, impact investing in 277 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 4: Northwestern Mutual is the way to kind of, you know, 278 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 4: reach out and download sort of what it is that 279 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 4: we do, what it is that we offer in that 280 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 4: particular space. And so our fund is really divided into 281 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 4: two sleeves that I think I mentioned earlier. One is 282 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 4: a local sleeve that is very much focused on local 283 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 4: impact investing in Milwaukee business owners and Milwaukee businesses. And 284 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 4: in that space, we've made some investments that we're really 285 00:13:55,840 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 4: proud of in CDFI, so Community Development Financial Institute and 286 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 4: what those are. 287 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 3: Think them as like local. 288 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 4: Community banks that have the sort of ground game to 289 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 4: do the kind of like smaller scale lending and investing 290 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 4: that our community needs. Right as a huge corpord entity, 291 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 4: we're looking at money in pretty big terms, like in 292 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 4: the millions, right, but everyone doesn't need a million dollars 293 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 4: plus to get invested to get their business off the 294 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 4: ground are accelerated. So these cdfives have the ground game 295 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 4: to say, let me get really intimately familiar with Will's business, 296 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 4: his books, et cetera, make the right sort of lending 297 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 4: and investment decisions to help him be successful, and then 298 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 4: also do other wrap around services to help consult on 299 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 4: things like taxes and all these other things that you 300 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 4: may not necessarily be familiar with starting a small business. 301 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 4: So that's kind of the local sleep. On a national level, 302 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 4: we really partner with a number of strong financial national 303 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 4: and global even financial institutions that have a really good 304 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 4: pulse on a number of different sectors that advance sustainable housing, 305 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 4: that advance educational priorities in all the sort of pillars 306 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 4: that we have, and so they're really looking at how 307 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 4: can they put larger swats. 308 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 3: Of money to work on a national sleeve. 309 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 4: So we're parted with folks like Black Rock and others 310 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 4: that that had that sort of ground game too. 311 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: You mentioned a little bit about your CEO and his involvement, 312 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: and so often these efforts aren't led by somebody in 313 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: senior leadership, and yours is, and I wonder can you 314 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: speak more to how serious you guys take this, because 315 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, sustainability is what matters. 316 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 4: One hundred percent. I will say so from day one 317 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 4: and to this day, our CEO has been at the table. 318 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 4: He chairs our Sustained Action for Racial Equity, the task 319 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 4: force that we talked about. We have six of our 320 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 4: senior leaders So think of these are folks that are 321 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 4: responsible for huge portions of our business, that are directly 322 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 4: accountable for the results that that that we set out 323 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 4: to accomplish, and so we have executive oversight, we have 324 00:15:54,640 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 4: we have rigorous reporting metrics and and real accountability in 325 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 4: the sense that like if we don't hit some of 326 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 4: these things. 327 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 3: Some of this is out of our control, but the 328 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 3: parts that are it. 329 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 4: Will have direct impacts on people's performance and myself included 330 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 4: performance in a very very real way. This is no different. 331 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 4: I cannot emphasize enough. It's no different than any other 332 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 4: growth priority that we would have as a fortune one hundred. 333 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 4: It's it's it's treated with that same level of intensity. 334 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 4: I would argue in some spaces even more leadership investment 335 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 4: an investment in terms of like their physical presence, their 336 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 4: physical they're like engagement in a meaningful way. And then again, 337 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 4: what gets measured gets done, and you know, success is 338 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 4: required for folks to accomplish their their personal goals and 339 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 4: their performance goals. 340 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: I want you to share some information about your Black 341 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: Founders Accelerator program. You know, I think about some of 342 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: the issues I've experienced and heard about through black entrepreneurs 343 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: where they might get invited to expos and conferences where 344 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: people want to hear about their business. And what I've 345 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: heard and often many different spaces, is we come and 346 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: do we do these expos that we present and it's 347 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: a big it's a dog and pony show, but nobody 348 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: ever walks away with a deal or they never walk 349 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: away with a meeting to actually get a serious look 350 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: at what they do, talk about how yours is, how 351 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: yours works, and how it might be different. 352 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely so super proud of this. 353 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 4: So our Blackfounder Accelerator, we choose ten businesses per year. 354 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 4: We typically do two cohorts of five each year. And 355 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 4: that might not sound like a lot, but it's intentionally 356 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 4: very very selective. So I think we have upwards of 357 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 4: seven hundred and fifty applicants that we like, thoroughly vet 358 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 4: and go through that process with. And essentially what we're 359 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 4: doing is we partner with a company called Generator that 360 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 4: has a really strong sort of development game for early 361 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 4: stage entrepreneurs and mid stage entrepreneurs as well, and we 362 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 4: go through a twelve week program with them where we're 363 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 4: helping them or find their pitch, their business, their you know, 364 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 4: every aspect of their business. Really we invest one hundred 365 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 4: thousand dollars, so this is not like a get. We 366 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 4: are very much investors, and we also open them up 367 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 4: to further investment in other parts of our business. And 368 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 4: then we appoint an executive mentor to sit in with 369 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 4: those founders and really provide particular guidances unique to their business. 370 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 3: Excuse me. 371 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 4: So you might have a business with some strong regulatory concerns, 372 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 4: So we're going to try to find somebody from the 373 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 4: Northwestern mutual ranks that's an expert in regulatory you know, 374 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 4: fintech regulatory considerations, and try to pair that founder with 375 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 4: them so that they could really get C suite level 376 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 4: insights on how to build their business in a way 377 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 4: that will ultimately be attractive to the big both further 378 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 4: investors but companies that might want to use that service 379 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 4: into the future. So we do that, We bring these 380 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 4: cohorts in, we really try to build a sort of 381 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 4: spirit of family across the cohorts and the alum and 382 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 4: then what we do after that is try to really 383 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 4: keep them as a part of this ecosystem and introduce 384 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 4: them connect them to as many resources and further opportunities 385 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 4: to raise more capital. In fact, going back to our 386 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 4: dashboard and in our metrics for results, one of our results, 387 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 4: one of our metrics is are we helping our founders 388 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 4: raise a particular amount of capital? Right, So we have 389 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:16,719 Speaker 4: targets to help graduates of our program meet certain fundraising criteria, 390 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 4: so that incentivizes us to really be diligent about how 391 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 4: can I introduce Will to as many people in that 392 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 4: lane that can help him further grow that business after 393 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 4: he's left our program. So we're specifically very choose, like 394 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 4: we're particularly picky and very very much kind of overweighted 395 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 4: in the not overweighted, but very much leaned into how 396 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 4: do we make this a very very thorough partnership and 397 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 4: be close with them? 398 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: And speaking about partnerships, you guys partner with Kellogg, which 399 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: is like a leading business school in the world. You 400 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: partner with them for Gather against the Gap a lot 401 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: of your initiatives. Why is that partnership important in what 402 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: do you hope that it lends to success? 403 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think thanks for the question. 404 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 4: So our CEO is actually in the lum of Kellogg 405 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 4: and so that's sort of where the initial idea came. 406 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 4: But the thought being that Kellogg is a world class institution, 407 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 4: like you mentioned, I think, top two or three in 408 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 4: all business school rankings year over year. And what's so 409 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 4: special about Kellogg is they have you know, many many 410 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 4: decades of shaping business practices successfully. And so we think 411 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 4: about one Evanson is but an hour away from Milwaukee. 412 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 4: So there's that proximity too. We had the connection with 413 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 4: our CEO being in lumber More importantly, they have sixty 414 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 4: five thousand executives across the globe that sit at the 415 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 4: helm of real, real capital like organizations and dollar amounts 416 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 4: that can change the makeup of this country and even 417 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 4: the world. 418 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 3: You know, I'm not Oh, it doesn't sound too part this. 419 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 4: Guy, but the world like they can do that. They 420 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 4: have that in their alumni ranks. They have nineteen of 421 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 4: the Fortune five hundred CEOs or Kellogg alumn Wow. So 422 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 4: the thought was, Okay, this is a world class research institution, 423 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 4: world class alumni bas teaming up with them and using 424 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 4: ourselves as a case study to say, look, Northwestern Mutual 425 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 4: doesn't have all this figured out, like we're learning. We're 426 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 4: still learning every day. People have been at supplier diversity 427 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 4: and things of that nature impact investing for much longer 428 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 4: than we have. But we're here, we're fully invested. What 429 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 4: can we learn from you as an academic institution, and 430 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 4: then what can we learn in and how can we 431 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 4: inspire others within your alumni base to steer their organizations 432 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 4: towards driving impact as well? And by the way, you're 433 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 4: also pumping out and cultivating future executives of tomorrow that 434 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,479 Speaker 4: need to have this this as a part of their game, right, 435 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 4: they need to know how their organizations are making an 436 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 4: impact beyond just shareholder return. 437 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 3: Right. 438 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: Gather against the Gap. I've been touching on this and 439 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: lot people don't know. Let's talk about first. What Gather 440 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,959 Speaker 1: against the Gap was? Yeah, speak to that. 441 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, So Gather against the Gap was this idea of Okay, 442 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 4: again in the spirit of us trying to get better 443 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 4: at doing this work. We don't have all the answers. 444 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 4: We're proud of what we done, long way to go. 445 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 4: How can we convene other leaders, other you know, large 446 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 4: corporate entities leaders at the helm of these massive amounts 447 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 4: of capital. I think we had in the room more 448 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 4: than a trillion dollars in assets under management. 449 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 2: And that was just you, That was just We had 450 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: two hundred I think it was like two hundred and 451 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: twenty five, two hundred and fifty something like that in attendance, 452 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 2: physically c suite leaders. 453 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 4: Okay, and you know, kell Loogg brought this academic lens 454 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 4: of Okay, if we removed all barriers and thought about 455 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 4: what are the levers that corporations can pull that the 456 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 4: business community can pull to legitimately begin to narrow and 457 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 4: eventually close the wealth gap. 458 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: Like it's possible. 459 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 4: But what it takes was essentially investing in black businesses, right, 460 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 4: So black business development. It's getting more corporations to open 461 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 4: up their supply chains and start to bring in black 462 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 4: business as a part of that. So grow business through 463 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 4: through leveraging the supply chain, and then that's access to capital. 464 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 3: And then when you. 465 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 4: Combine all those things over time and you really can 466 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 4: create a sort of like a multiplier effect, we. 467 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 3: Can start to move that needle. 468 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 4: And so everybody in that room was aligned on that 469 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 4: vision and came to get actionable, like practical when you 470 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 4: go in on Monday, here are three to five things 471 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 4: that you can do from your seat, and I think 472 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 4: we accomplish that in space. 473 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 1: Your CEO had this to say about one of the themes 474 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: that came out of the conference. He said, sustained action 475 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: requires sustained leadership. When leaders show up consistently for their 476 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: impact initiatives, they create a multiplier effect to your point, 477 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: within their organization. What do you hope other businesses in 478 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: your vertical takeaway from that conference and then you know, 479 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: how do you continue because you said you guys kind 480 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: of want to be a representation like this work is 481 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: possible if we collectively do this together. Like what do 482 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: you hope they take away from that initiative and that's 483 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: the work that continues. 484 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think what's been most impact I think to 485 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 4: folk so like obviously if you got like literally skin 486 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,959 Speaker 4: in the game and this is something that you know, 487 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 4: this is just so you're so passionate about this topic, 488 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 4: Like that's one thing. There's sort of the there's the 489 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 4: moral imperative to to close the wealth gap because it's 490 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 4: gonna help benefit the country undeniably. But then there's also 491 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 4: a real business case for doing it too. So let's 492 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 4: just say that's not enough for you as a leader, Like, yeah, 493 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 4: that sounds good, but I've got I've got shareholders to 494 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 4: worry about. I think what our CEO would argue, you know, 495 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,719 Speaker 4: not to be his ambassador necessarily, but there's real growth 496 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 4: potential and business value. That's what we wanted to do 497 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 4: together against the gap. And in many respects, what we're 498 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 4: doing with say is how can we do both? Right? 499 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 4: It's not an either or when you put these things 500 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 4: together you'll see tremendous growth like our company has enjoyed 501 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 4: since we've started this work, unprecedented growth and our advisor 502 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,719 Speaker 4: force and the productivity of our advisor force. And that 503 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 4: growth didn't come from you know, middle aged white man. 504 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 4: It came from the diverse segments that we've been more 505 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 4: intentional about bringing on. 506 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 3: It's powered unbelievable growth for our business over the last 507 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 3: couple of years. 508 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 4: So I guess what I would say to take away 509 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 4: is this isn't a charity case, right. This is a 510 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 4: combination of obviously the right thing to do that will 511 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,479 Speaker 4: benefit us all, but then also it's good for your 512 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 4: bottom line too when it's done right. 513 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: For the people who when you think about doing this work, 514 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: the people who may never own a small business and 515 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: may never come to you know, be in your pipeline 516 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: of future employees, but they just work normal. 517 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 3: Everyday jobs. 518 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 1: How does this work benefit them potentially? 519 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 4: I love that question. That's a deeply personal one for me. 520 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 4: So I mentioned earlier this goal of trying to reach 521 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 4: more Black households, more American households, period, but in particular 522 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,479 Speaker 4: black households, and I think of my own family, right, 523 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 4: So I mentioned family came here from Haiti, built up 524 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 4: from the ground up, gave three kids a college education, 525 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 4: what have you? And I watched my parents work very, 526 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 4: very diligently to rise in their own spirits. My mom 527 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 4: did own a small business. It was a home daycare owner, 528 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 4: had kids at our house every day. My mom my 529 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 4: dad worked for a variety of banks, worked up from 530 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 4: the mailroom to manageagement. 531 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 3: Will have you? So really a career company man. 532 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 4: And at the end of that, I think about, well, 533 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 4: what did all that get them? 534 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 3: Apps in a financial plan? 535 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 4: And so right now we're at the stage of their 536 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 4: lives where they're looking at a retirement. 537 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 3: That it's not looking so great because they didn't. 538 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 4: Have somebody that sat down with them and got them 539 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 4: on a game plan early on. There were things that 540 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 4: I wish they had the right advisor. I wish they 541 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 4: had an advisor to expose them to things really really 542 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 4: think things that would be seem like really small investments 543 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 4: at the time that could have been paid dividends for 544 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 4: them in their retirement years. So now we're trying to 545 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 4: figure out how do we supplement that and give them 546 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 4: a respectful retirement. 547 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 3: But it's kind of late in the game for that. 548 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 4: So what I would say is, as much as our 549 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 4: folks can get get a financial advisor to help you, 550 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 4: and you know, I happen to believe that we have 551 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 4: the best in the industry at Northwestern Mutual, but get 552 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 4: somebody to sit down with you and. 553 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 3: Talk through a plan. 554 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 4: Talk through things like disability insurance if you happen to 555 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 4: be disabled and not able to go back to work, 556 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 4: talk about how you're putting money away thoughtfully before it's 557 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 4: so late in the game that you know you're really 558 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 4: trying to play catchup, which is tough. 559 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: So you've guys said which I imagine Gather Against the 560 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: Gap falls under that, this relationship with Kellogg falls under 561 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: that Black Founder Accelerator falls under that, the Impact Fund, 562 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: I imagine falls under that. When you think about Kellogg, 563 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: like that's an important relationship. Just from externally, I can 564 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: know that that's an important relationship. What does the future 565 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: hold for? What the direction you guys want to take that, 566 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: How do you want to grow that relationship. 567 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 4: I think we learned so much with Gather Against the Gap, 568 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 4: and the key being we need to be able to 569 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 4: provide the business community with actionable, like tangible, practical takeaway 570 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 4: steps to make any of this stuff actually happen. And 571 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 4: so I think we've only begun to scrape the surface 572 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,479 Speaker 4: of how do we take the learnings from these in 573 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 4: person convenings of the different conversations or research that Kellogg 574 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 4: is doing, and then how do we partner together and 575 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 4: using them as a case study, Like we'll be that 576 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 4: case study, how do we partner to is still more 577 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 4: of that down and spread it across the business community. 578 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 4: So we'll look forward to looking at, you know, across 579 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 4: the different dimensions of say procurement and supplier diversity. How 580 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 4: do we get the best of the best together to 581 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 4: talk about those and distill those action steps down you 582 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 4: talk about access to capital, impact investing, things of that nature, 583 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 4: how do we get the best. 584 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 3: Of the best there, pair it with the research and 585 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 3: distill that across the business community. 586 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 4: So we're really looking at not just hey, we did 587 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 4: this nice event, A bunch of people came, it was great, 588 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 4: we took great pictures, check out the video and turn 589 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 4: it into tangible a campaign of academic and sort of 590 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 4: like business facing communications on how to go put. 591 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 3: That stuff to work. 592 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 4: Right. It's not just it's not trying to be a 593 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 4: commercial like, let's actually get this stuff done. 594 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: So people want to learn more about what Northwestern Mutual 595 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: is doing, what the founders, the Black Founders fund and 596 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: so if they want to learn more about this stuff 597 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: dive in. 598 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 3: Where should they go? 599 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would send them to Northwestern Mutual dot com. 600 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 4: And then if you have any any questions or your 601 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 4: business you think might. 602 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 3: Be a good fit, you want to learn more about 603 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 3: impact investing, impact investing in Northwestern Mutual. 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