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Speaker 1: Now your host, Nicole Hutchison.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Cowboys Nation. Welcome into Girls Talk Boys Talk,

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Speaker 3: presented by Invisiline in the SWBC studio Nicole Hutcheson, Brionna Aldrich,

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Speaker 3: Christie Scales.

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Speaker 4: Ladies, we had Liper Bowl yesterday.

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Speaker 5: It was a good time. We just start off the bat.

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Speaker 4: First off, how are y'all doing all right?

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I was trying to remember what we talked

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Speaker 6: about last because it feels like going.

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Speaker 5: From every single day to once a weekend. But yeah, guys,

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Speaker 5: football's over. It's officially over.

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Speaker 3: It is officially a round. On Sundays, be at home

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Speaker 3: and uh chill and find something to watch NBA.

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Speaker 2: Basically, yeah, it'll be March made coming up.

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Speaker 6: That's when I look like a real basketball fan. I'm

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Speaker 6: not gonna lie to you. I've seen like maybe four

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Speaker 6: games this season.

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Speaker 5: Now you look like it that's crazy.

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Speaker 4: But what did you guys think of the game?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think esthetically pleasing, Maybe not unless you're

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Speaker 2: really into defense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought it was a.

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Speaker 2: Very old school kind of game. I actually really loved it,

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Speaker 2: to be honest.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean honestly. I mean credit to the Seahawks.

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Speaker 6: They it might have. I think I think we're a

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Speaker 6: little bit spoiled, especially we talk a lot about this defense,

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Speaker 6: but we are spoiled offensively, and we're used to seeing

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Speaker 6: the kind of offense that gets you excited and as

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Speaker 6: bad as the defenses kind of keeps you in games

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Speaker 6: most of the season.

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Speaker 5: That's what we're used to.

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Speaker 6: And it's just amazing to see another team who is

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Speaker 6: defensively rounded and keeps an okay offense in it first

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Speaker 6: in the Super Bowl when we're talking about it, but

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Speaker 6: that's what they've done all season, and the Seahawks have

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Speaker 6: been able to win games when they have a QB who.

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Speaker 5: Has a bad game, an ok game, a great game.

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Speaker 6: Like I was a little jealous in some in some

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Speaker 6: aspects cause I'm like, man, like this is crazy, But

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Speaker 6: the Seahawks did exactly what they're designed to do, and.

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Speaker 5: They were all over all over it so impressed. My gosh,

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Speaker 5: how many times I don't even know how many times

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Speaker 5: he was sacked?

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Speaker 4: Was it five or six?

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Speaker 3: With my math?

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Speaker 5: Maybe a bad hold up?

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Speaker 3: Two?

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Speaker 4: Four, five, six?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, six times three turnovers with the two interceptions and

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Speaker 2: the one lost fumble.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know. I felt like this game was

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Speaker 4: kind of a win for the get off my lawn

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Speaker 2: Defense wins championships, right, and also taking the points. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for kicking field goals right and not you know,

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Speaker 2: always going forward on fourth down.

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Speaker 4: That paid off for the Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: And you know, not that anyone is excited when a

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Speaker 2: kicker sets a record for field goals in a Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: you know, unless you're Jason Myers and his family and

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Speaker 4: But yeah, just the way that But at.

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Speaker 2: The same time, the concepts and some of the things

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Speaker 2: that McDonald and then of course are our friend Adam

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Speaker 2: Dirty who's the defensive coordinator for the Seahawks, what they

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Speaker 2: were doing and sending Witherspoon off, you know, with the

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Speaker 4: And for those of us.

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Speaker 2: Who remember when DeMarcus Lawrence was drafted, here really gratifying

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Speaker 2: to see him get a get a ring. Wish that

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Speaker 2: we're here with the Cowboys, obviously, but good Forde Law

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I'm saying I just I'm thinking of the

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Speaker 5: But I just I think it speaks.

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Speaker 6: Volumes and that I think that should make guys here

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Speaker 6: because he was he was very like, you know, respectful,

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Speaker 3: Day, you gotta do what's best for you, and you

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Speaker 3: know d Law at the end of the day, like

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Speaker 3: granted he battled injuries towards the end of his career,

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Speaker 3: out to d law. That defense ridiculously good. We've been

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Speaker 3: saying it all season long and even this offseason specifically,

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Speaker 3: but we don't give enough credit to that defensive, that

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Speaker 3: yesterday just the way that they do so many different things.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes they play close to the line of scrimmage, sometimes

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Speaker 3: I think that was one of the most impressive things.

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Speaker 3: But when you talk about this defense Seattle specifically or no,

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Speaker 3: we can talk both of them, Patriots and Seahawks. What

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Speaker 3: is something that you feel like could be if you're

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Speaker 3: trying to build a Super Bowl champion team here in Dallas.

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Speaker 3: What's something that you can take away from those two

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I hate to sound so basic, but sure, tackling on.

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Speaker 4: Both both both.

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Speaker 2: Sides, both sides, how many yards after contact were they

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Speaker 2: are yesterday? Very minimal? What did we see all season

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Speaker 2: long for the Cowboys defense? A lot of yards after

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Speaker 2: But you know, just very physical corners, right Julian love Hey.

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Speaker 2: a multiple offense, being able to attack in many different ways.

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Speaker 2: What were both of these teams able to do defensively,

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Speaker 5: Looking at the number one defense.

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Speaker 6: Well, first, I have to give a shout out to

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Speaker 6: Leslie Frasier because I don't feel like he gets enough

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Speaker 5: In my opinion.

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Speaker 6: He's been a few times on a head coaching position,

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Speaker 6: but I think you see kind of this younger kind

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Speaker 6: But there was on a radio road he was just

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Speaker 5: And this is a man who was drafted I think

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Speaker 6: And he's able to be relevant and bring so much

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Speaker 5: And I think when you look.

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Speaker 6: the edges we know needs some work, right, But I

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Speaker 6: think the Cowboys, when you look at the Seahawks have

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Speaker 5: And what they're able to do and how.

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Speaker 6: He's able to do disguise is to bring the corners

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Speaker 4: And they landed and they landed. Hey, flue, they tried

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Speaker 2: I mean, I love me some Marquis Bell, but there

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, and the execution.

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Speaker 5: That's what it is.

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Speaker 6: If you even like looking, you know how, and you

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Speaker 6: those were like right on que perfect. But part of

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Speaker 5: He's a young QB. I mean, that's what you expect.

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Speaker 5: And again he had to be.

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Speaker 6: Right on point and they were destroying him all night

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Speaker 6: it was the experience I think as well. Like if

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Speaker 6: though what Sam Darnold nineteen for thirty eight two hundred

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Speaker 6: the worlds, but the defense made him look great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Wait, and what confidence that defense played with?

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Speaker 5: Wow, they were having fun.

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Speaker 6: They like from the jump, they were having fun from

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Speaker 5: And man, I'm like, I'm like, okay.

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Speaker 2: But I tell you though, with the Patriots defense, there

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Speaker 2: it's like I thought, I thought there were you.

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Speaker 6: Know, very much, they.

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Speaker 5: Just barely and the reps were letting them play. Oh yeah, like.

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Speaker 4: Which they tend to do in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I remember when Peyton Manning they they lost

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Speaker 4: I mean it's like they were letting a.

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Speaker 2: Corners play very aggressively and it's opening series. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: this game's over.

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Speaker 5: There was a there was a couple of plays where

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Speaker 6: Because there would be like there'd be like Patriot receiver

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that was what I was gonna say, MVP.

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Speaker 5: So I thought that that was something that you know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I can't wait to see you, guys.

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Speaker 4: I can't. I'm a judge. I'll vote for you. I

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Speaker 5: I don't know much. I have enough on track of

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Speaker 3: I haven't really I'm keeping it that I got rhythm,

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Speaker 5: That's wild. I haven't heard that's crazy about you? Who

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Speaker 4: Finally could be even though none of us have rhythm,

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Speaker 6: Okay, So I was confused. I didn't know if the trees,

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Speaker 5: I can actually do that job.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna be a tree for bad.

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Speaker 2: But well, you know, actually, actually it's funny because one

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Speaker 4: But so, but they went mainly to see Bad Bunny.

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Speaker 2: A player doesn't like to be franchise tagged because it's

446
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Speaker 2: a one year deal. It's guaranteed money once it's signed.

447
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 2: But the range of what George Pickens would receive as

448
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 2: a wide receiver would be approximately twenty eight million dollars,

449
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 2: maybe a little more. It's an average of top salaries

450
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,879
Speaker 2: among wide receivers. But it's a one year deal. So

451
00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 2: you sign it and with the hopes of of negotiating

452
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 2: a long term deal, which is what players ultimately want,

453
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 2: so they can get big bonus money in the like,

454
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 2: or you can sign it, play a play for one

455
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 2: year for the twenty eight million or a little over

456
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 2: twenty eight million, and then you're a free agent again

457
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 2: next year. You can cash in even more. If you

458
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 2: get tagged a second time. You can get tagged sou

459
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 2: times then you would get a big bump from that.

460
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Speaker 2: Or if you don't get tagged a second time, then

461
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Speaker 2: you're a free agent again and you get bookoo money.

462
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Speaker 2: And we talked last week about how the franchise tag

463
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 2: continues to go up and up. So yeah, but that's

464
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 2: going to be the big story over the next couple

465
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Speaker 2: of weeks in Cowboys Nation. Is whether or not the

466
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Speaker 2: Cowboys decide to do it, but they have until March

467
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 2: third all NFL teams. This is standard across the league.

468
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Speaker 2: Even though it opens next week, it ends March third.

469
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Speaker 3: So let me ask you something to make sure I'm

470
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Speaker 3: understanding this correctly. So if would it be more beneficial

471
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Speaker 3: for Pickens to sign the franchise tag or would it

472
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Speaker 3: be more fin of or more beneficial for the Cowboys?

473
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Speaker 5: I guess in.

474
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 2: Short term, Well, what you're trying to do is keep

475
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 2: him off the market from a Cowboys standpoint, So you

476
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 2: tag him and he doesn't have to sign it right away.

477
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 2: March third is the deadline for teams to make a

478
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Speaker 2: decision as to whether they're tagging someone.

479
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Speaker 4: Hey, he doesn't have to sign it at all. He

480
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 4: don't have to sign it at all.

481
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 2: But if the Cowboys tag him, they they've got his

482
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 2: rights for this year. He could sit out a year,

483
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 2: wouldn't get paid. So you know, once you apply the tag,

484
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 2: then basically it's up to the player and his agent

485
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 2: of what they're what they're going to do. But what

486
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 2: really what the tag is, It's it's a placeholder in

487
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 2: the off season. This is one of our most coveted

488
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 2: free agents. We don't want to lose him, So we're

489
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 2: going to tag him right now. Because what happens the

490
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 2: March third. Why is that the key date? Because the

491
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 2: next week on March ninth is win free agency open

492
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 2: and you can sign with anyone. So if you do

493
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 2: not tag George Pickens and you don't sign him to

494
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 2: a deal between now in March ninth, he can you

495
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 2: don't agree to a deal, then he's on the open market.

496
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Speaker 4: He can sign with anybody.

497
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 2: Okay, and so so so what you're doing, it's it's

498
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 2: basically like a placeholder, and it's a way for It's

499
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Speaker 2: something the NFL has done, is a way for teams

500
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Speaker 2: to control their most coveted players who.

501
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Speaker 4: Enter free agency. Does that make sense?

502
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Speaker 7: Yeah?

503
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 4: No, I that's the purpose.

504
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 5: It seems like a lot of people expected this to

505
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Speaker 5: happen anyways.

506
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, And by the way, you have until mid July. Okay,

507
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 2: I tag Pickens or whoever I I tag him, and

508
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 2: then I have until mid July to you know, work

509
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 2: out this like long term deal. So you hope to

510
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: get it done before then. Yeah, Well, now what's the danger?

511
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 2: What's the danger in doing that? If you're the Cowboys

512
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 2: of tagging Pickens in particular.

513
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 3: There's still a possibility that he could say, all right,

514
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 3: I don't want to sign this tag and still explore

515
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Speaker 3: other options.

516
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 2: Right, he can't explore other options other than not playing. Yeah, yeah,

517
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 2: they control the rights. You can hope, he can hope

518
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 2: that someone is willing to trade two first round picks

519
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 2: for him, because that's that's what happens. Or he can

520
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 2: hope for a sign it. If he signs the franchise tag,

521
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 2: then he can be traded.

522
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 6: I feel like the downfall for me is a player,

523
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 6: if I just came off my career high best and

524
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 6: I'm being tagged, and I want to be here, and

525
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 6: I go play and I.

526
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Speaker 5: Tear my acl well, I git myself.

527
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: Yeah you got your one year twenty eight million or

528
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 2: a little over twenty eight million, But then you're bleeped

529
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: after that, right, And that's the inner free agency Without that,

530
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 2: to me, the danger is players don't like being tagged,

531
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 2: I think, and he's probably he's not going to be

532
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 2: happy likely.

533
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 4: And is he going to come in and do off

534
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 4: season work?

535
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 5: Probably not.

536
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 4: Most tagged players don't.

537
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 6: I'm thinking of I think I'm thinking of Higgins from

538
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 6: Bengals was tagged I believe, and I think you had

539
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 6: the same agent, and I think they no longer have.

540
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 2: I think that it's you know, it's just like anything else.

541
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,959
Speaker 2: There's good and bad. Just think of these free agents

542
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 2: that are on the open market. Forget about the franchise tag.

543
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 2: Great news, you're a free agent, you could sign with anybody.

544
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 2: Bad news, you're unemployed. You are technically unemployed. Yeah, and

545
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 2: unfortunately a lot of people are unemployed in the next

546
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 2: season through camp.

547
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 8: You know.

548
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 2: So it's just like anything else in professional sports. It's

549
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 2: good news, bad news. You control more of your career.

550
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 3: But you know, it's fun employee, you know, it's funny.

551
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 3: It's because these reports didn't mountain to after Michael Parsons

552
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 3: was at the Pro Bowl literally trying to convince Pickens

553
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 3: to go to Green Bay. Did y'all see that? Yeah,

554
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 3: all the videos and having him on his podcast.

555
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 6: Like I will say, it was a little funny about

556
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 6: uh flashing back to when he got drafted, because I've

557
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 6: always wanted that that meme explained to me. I mean, yeah,

558
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 6: the shakesty mass Oh my gosh, it's still funny. But

559
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 6: he has a lot he has a lot of pride.

560
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 6: Like I said, he's coming off his career bes he.

561
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 6: I felt like he gave everything and more that was

562
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 6: asked of him, and I know there was some issues

563
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 6: off the field, but it seemed like he owned up

564
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 6: to it.

565
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 5: Shottenheimer called him out on some bs discipline them. I

566
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 5: don't even know what was that.

567
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 4: It was a Vegas and CD sat out the first drive.

568
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 5: Okay, that's what That's what I'm going to say.

569
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 6: Like at the end of the day, like if I'm

570
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 6: him and I have again a bulldog of an age

571
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 6: that we all are aware of because he was all

572
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 6: in the headlines for our last off I have a

573
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 6: feeling we're going to have him again in this offseason,

574
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 6: and he's probably sitting back comfortable, like I've dealt with

575
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 6: this organization and you know, I got my last player

576
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 6: the top deal and just ride with me and I'll

577
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 6: do it again for you however that that may come.

578
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 6: But definitely, I would feel like I'm not feeling confident

579
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 6: at this point that this is going to get done

580
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 6: by training camp like everyone has hoped, and I hope

581
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 6: it's not. When those situations where with like CD, he

582
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 6: had to come in and you know, trying to get

583
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 6: into rhythm with Dak like this team doesn't have time

584
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 6: for all that nonsense.

585
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially as we've been talking about the last few

586
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: weeks when Clayton Adams and the offensive coaches are working

587
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: this offseason, that there's another reason for the Cowboys to

588
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: try and get this settled.

589
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 4: Is Clayton.

590
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 2: In case you didn't see the past few weeks, we're

591
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: talking about Clayton Adams, the offense coordinator, saying that that's

592
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: going to be one of the things that he's really

593
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: studying this offseason is having two number one wide receivers

594
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: and the way that it affects everything, not just the

595
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: passing attack, but the run game and protections and everything else.

596
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: And so it just with everything up in the air again,

597
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: it's a placeholder. Yeah, it doesn't mean things are resolved.

598
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 6: And it's easier said than done to just get it done.

599
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 6: I know that's you know, we're all like, just get

600
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 6: it done. But they have fifteen unrestricted free agents here

601
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 6: to deal with, and obviously Pickens is the top one.

602
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 6: But you still have the conversations of a certain running

603
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 6: back you want to come back, We went we want Clowney,

604
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 6: We went brand we wanted on and there's fifteen of

605
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 6: them to figure out you're already over the cap, what

606
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 6: nearly thirty million?

607
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 5: I at least tagging, Yeah, tagging Pickins put.

608
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 4: And by the way, the cap is up twenty million,

609
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 4: but you're still over that.

610
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 6: So yeah, they got some some things to move around.

611
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 6: So I know it's not that simple. But if you're

612
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 6: talking about a team who's right there, and you're putting

613
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:07,719
Speaker 6: all this resources into building up this defense that everyone

614
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 6: knows that this defense can be serviceable and keep the

615
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 6: offense that you had, this is going to be a

616
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 6: team to watch out for next season. But if you

617
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 6: let this Pickens things go to something I can't say

618
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 6: on air, then it's going to be Navy. Yeah.

619
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Speaker 2: You know, you say, oh, this is the business side

620
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: of it. It's not personal until it's you. Yeah, and

621
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: it's very personal.

622
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 3: Talk about career numbers. Ninety three receptions over almost fifteen

623
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 3: hundred receiving yards, nine touchdowns for George Pickens this past year,

624
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 3: earned second team All Pro honors this first Pro Bowl

625
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 3: appearance as well, So shout out to Pickens, But talk

626
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 3: about the free agency re made a good point about

627
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 3: the resources that they need to be putting into the

628
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 3: defensive side of the ball. It's very important for them

629
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 3: to get this done just so you can make space

630
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 3: for those guys. And even Kenny Clark right right, he's

631
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 3: on contract.

632
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 4: Well, no, he's under contract, so then yeah, there we go.

633
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 3: That doesn't really count. But no, the defensive side of

634
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 3: the ball. You need cornerback, you need linebacker, you need

635
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 3: defensive end, you need all these different positions everybody. So

636
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 3: it'll be interesting to see how it unfolds. But if

637
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 3: I'm Pickings, I'm like, let's get this done. All right,

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Speaker 3: Aldridge Christie Scales and has promised we are breaking down

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Speaker 3: this coaching stuff as it continues to be filled out.

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Speaker 3: I know the last time that we talked, we only

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Speaker 3: believe we got to Ryan Smith, who's the secondary's coach,

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Speaker 3: and Derek Ansley, who is the defensive pass game coordinator

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Speaker 3: safeties coach for the Dallas Cowboys. But after that they

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Speaker 3: hired their outside linebackers coach who came from Georgia, chadera

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Speaker 3: Uzzo Dry.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna ask sheet on that one.

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Speaker 3: I need to go to Patrick Walker because he's georgiatown,

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Speaker 3: all right, But they also hired Marcus Dixon and Robert

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Speaker 3: Musk Camp must Shamp must camp Shamp. Yeah, still learning.

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Speaker 3: It's fine.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna get there. Name's gonna eat me up for

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Speaker 5: a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's fine, but.

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Speaker 3: No, we were kind of briefly talking about it off

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Speaker 3: the air as just does this change what they're trying

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Speaker 3: to do schematically by the looks of the positions that

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Speaker 3: they have hired, because they have an outside linebackers coach

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Speaker 3: who history has shown that the Cowboys hadn't necessarily.

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Speaker 5: Had an outside linebackers coach.

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Speaker 3: I've just had a linebackers coach or assistant linebackers coach.

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Speaker 3: So does does it kind of change in your opinion

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Speaker 3: what they're trying to do schematically here in Dallas?

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Speaker 2: It could, But also sometimes it the way that you

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Speaker 2: do some job titles is interesting. Yeah, you know, just

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Speaker 2: to kind of how you staff it up and how

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Speaker 2: it you Basically the titles don't always match up with

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Speaker 2: it's it's not so delineated.

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Speaker 4: There's a little bit of crossover.

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Speaker 2: But I think it is interesting to note, as you said, Nicole,

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Speaker 2: that they haven't divated up that way by title in

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Speaker 2: the past inside linebacker coach and outside linebacker coach, and.

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Speaker 4: Most teams that do that.

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Speaker 2: Just kind of a rule of that's more of a

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Speaker 2: three four defense that differentiates between insideline backer and out

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Speaker 2: sideline backer coaches.

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Speaker 4: So is it an indication could be?

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I just like that this whole look of the defense,

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Speaker 6: the youth of the defensive side of the ball looks

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Speaker 6: how it looks. I was I was asking you guys

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Speaker 6: before the break, are they finished? I wasn't really sure

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Speaker 6: because I haven't really seen like the article like Okay

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Speaker 6: Parker's defense, it just says he's building and things like that.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, you know, I'm hoping. I'm hoping that later this.

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Speaker 2: Week or next week that the coaches are made available

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Speaker 2: to the media where we can actually go talk to

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Speaker 2: him and meet him and get a little bit more

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Speaker 2: about that.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I'm kind of jealous too because I've seen

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Speaker 6: other teams who obviously are been out of it as well,

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Speaker 6: introduced their dcs and ocs and things like that.

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Speaker 5: I'm just like, I'm eager to listen in and see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Cowboys have done that the last several years in

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00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: the way that they wait until the staff has been

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Speaker 2: redone then and then have the assistance made available altogether

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Speaker 2: rather than kind of piecemeal like one at a time

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Speaker 2: as they're announced. But we have had so much turnover

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Speaker 2: with the defensive coaching staffs over the last few years

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Speaker 2: that it really really wasn't an issue until the last

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Speaker 2: few years.

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Speaker 3: You know, has it changed y'all's confidence level heading into

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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty six season. I know we we've asked

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Speaker 3: this question every single off season that I've been here,

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Speaker 3: just because there has been so much turnover. But you know,

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Speaker 3: by the looks of what this coaching staff is starting

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Speaker 3: to look like, right, we mentioned how you know Shoddy

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Speaker 3: needs the same type of level of intensity or energy

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Speaker 3: that matches the defensive offensive side of the boxcuse me

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Speaker 3: for the defense.

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Speaker 5: So does it kind of.

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Speaker 3: Change the confidence level heading into the CEA have?

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Speaker 2: You know, I think rather than confidence the way that

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Speaker 2: I would just but for me personally is it's peaud

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Speaker 2: my curiosity. I'm very excited to see what because it

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Speaker 2: goes to both of y'all's point earlier about.

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Speaker 4: The youth and the energy.

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Speaker 2: And it's not just the age of these young coaches

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Speaker 2: coming in, but the fact that so many of them

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Speaker 2: are coming from college and I just I just think

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Speaker 2: it's going to be a fresh, unique thing.

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Speaker 4: And we talked about it last week.

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Speaker 2: Is this ain't the same old process for the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: in the Jones era of how.

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Speaker 4: They've gone and gone with more.

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Speaker 2: Experience at defensive at the coordinator position. Well, you know, hey,

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Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong. It's worked for him in the past, okay,

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Speaker 2: but not the past couple of years. So, but Schottenheimer's

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Speaker 2: influence is really showing through. I think this off season,

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Speaker 2: and they've cast a very wide net and that's in

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Speaker 2: terms of interviews, right, and these young guys bringing in

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Speaker 2: from pro and college level. So it piques my curiosity

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Speaker 2: and it makes me excited. I can't I honestly can't

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Speaker 2: wait for camp, right, I know we just had the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl yesterday, but no, I'm you know what I'm

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Speaker 2: looking forward to?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well it can't, but but the cool parts.

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Speaker 2: Of camp and when you have a joint practice, you're

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Speaker 2: not going to see things in pre season, but the

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Speaker 2: way some of the you know they'll be tells uh

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Speaker 2: in the once you get to the nitty gritty parts

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Speaker 2: of practice of some of the cool concepts and things

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Speaker 2: that they're going to be working on.

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Speaker 4: So that's what has me excited.

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Speaker 6: And just just just last season to this season. I

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Speaker 6: think the difference what I'm seeing and what I read

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Speaker 6: just last night was only two of the hires has

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Speaker 6: familiarity and has been where Parker has been.

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Speaker 5: I think that speaks volumes because Flues.

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Speaker 2: Brought everybody with right, just almost everybody just about yeah,

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Speaker 2: not white Cotton.

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Speaker 6: But I think this is different in that aspect to

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Speaker 6: going away from just like youth college ranking is they're going.

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Speaker 5: They did their work.

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Speaker 6: I think it was almost twenty different candidates for all

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Speaker 6: of the positions that they've come through. That's that's huge

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Speaker 6: as well, because it just felt like last season, once

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Speaker 6: they named the DC, everything else really came pretty quick.

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Speaker 5: Who was coming with them? It didn't take It wasn't

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Speaker 5: this thorough in my opinion.

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Speaker 2: And can I say one more thing about in terms

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Speaker 2: of bringing in guys who recently or coming straight out

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Speaker 2: of college, familiarity with the prospects coming out. When Jimmy

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Speaker 2: Johnson and that staff think of it, it was Butch

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Speaker 2: Davis and Dave Wanstadt and Dave Campbo and that staff

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Speaker 2: that came from University of Miami. A lot of those

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Speaker 2: players that the Cowboys draft did they had specifically recruited

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Speaker 2: or they knew they or they played against them. Right,

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Speaker 2: They may not of all, they all of their recruits

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Speaker 2: may not have ended up University of Miami playing for

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Speaker 2: Jimmy and that staff. But you talk about no one

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Speaker 2: the guys who were available in those first few drafts.

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Speaker 5: Heck yeah.

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Speaker 4: And so that's something that.

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Speaker 2: It will be really interesting with this draft process and

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Speaker 2: something that we won't know until we the draft is done,

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Speaker 2: But I'll be interested to talk to my friends in

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Speaker 2: the scouting department who have been here a long time,

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Speaker 2: and I'll kind of give you the skinny on what

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Speaker 2: kind of input some of the newer coaching hires had

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Speaker 2: in the process.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Combine will be interesting to see too, like

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Speaker 3: the interviews that they get to, the interviews with the

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Speaker 3: players that they get to have, and kind of seeing

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Speaker 3: in how the or where they kind of rank each

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Speaker 3: position amongst this coaching staff. Does this change where y'all

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Speaker 3: see the Cowboys drafting or which position this Cowboys team

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Speaker 3: drafts first round? Does it change anything for you guys?

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Speaker 6: No, No, I don't think it changes where what they do.

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Speaker 6: I just think to Christie's point, it gives you a

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Speaker 6: little bit more of upperhand because it's no secret that

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Speaker 6: this organization over the last few years, when we talk

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Speaker 6: about defensive picks, they've missed.

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Speaker 5: So I think it's smart to do what they're doing.

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Speaker 6: And it makes perfect sense what Christie's saying, and it

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Speaker 6: would be nice to start hitting in some of these

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Speaker 6: spots that are much needed and that we just talked

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Speaker 6: about money and all these unrestricted vagents not a you know,

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Speaker 6: money's tight so the draft is important.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think to go back to your point, I

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Speaker 3: obviously feel like defensive ends probably priority.

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Speaker 4: You still need that.

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Speaker 3: But if they do decide to go with like Christy

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Speaker 3: was mentioning, possibly a three to four defense, does that

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Speaker 3: kind of change maybe linebacker?

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Speaker 5: Do you move Asiaku to kind of line backer position?

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Speaker 5: What does that do for a guy like?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't know about three four just because

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Speaker 2: the strength is the interior of your line, and you know,

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Speaker 2: would you see some five man line like we did

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Speaker 2: towards the end of this season.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: But but in the past when there have been transitions

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Speaker 2: from three four to four to three and back. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, there's no right or wrong when it

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Speaker 2: comes to that, it's just approach. But you do have

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Speaker 2: to to draft towards that. So I'll give an example.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry to go old school here, but this is

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Speaker 2: this is just the way that works. When Bill Parcells

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Speaker 2: took over as head coach of the Cowboys in two

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Speaker 2: thousand and three, Bill had always been a three to

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Speaker 2: four guy. All right, Bill was three four when he

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Speaker 2: came to the Cowboys. He didn't automatically implement that. Why

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Speaker 2: because he didn't have the horses for it. He didn't

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Speaker 2: have the personnel for it. It took and Chris Beam

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Speaker 2: can help me out. Here was it two? It was

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Speaker 2: the second year, actually, I think it was the third

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Speaker 2: year that he switched to three four and Mike Zimmer

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Speaker 2: is defensive And the other thing was Mike Zimber was

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Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator and Parcels inherited Mike. Mike had never

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Speaker 2: coordinated three four, and so then a couple of years

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Speaker 2: after that, then Mike has to learn he coordinated. He

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Speaker 2: had to make the big switch and learn the three four.

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Speaker 2: But that's because they had had drafted DeMarcus Ware and

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Speaker 2: there aren't And when DeMarcus Ware began his Cowboys career,

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Speaker 2: he was he could play either defensive end or linebacker.

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Speaker 2: And then there was a point where Greg Ellis, who

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Speaker 2: was drafted in nineteen ninety eight as the first round pick,

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Speaker 2: he was a defensive end. Well, when the transition was

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Speaker 2: made from four to three to three four, Ellis had

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Speaker 2: to move from defensive end to linebacker. So what's the

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Speaker 2: biggest change for him? Instead of rushing off the edge

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Speaker 2: with the hand on ground in the three point stance,

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Speaker 2: it's from a stand up position, it's dropping back into coverage.

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Speaker 2: It's things like that. So the long winded I'm sorry, no,

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Speaker 2: it long winded answer to your question, Nicole is it

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Speaker 2: absolutely will affect certain positions, particularly those. Yeah, that's and

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Speaker 2: inside linebacker as well, instead of mile lineback, you know, insidelnebacker,

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Speaker 2: instead of just having a mic.

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Speaker 6: And that's that's the point I think to Nicole is like,

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Speaker 6: you know, what type of defense is this staff going to?

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Speaker 5: Look?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 6: We have no freaking idea at this point, And I

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Speaker 6: think that's what makes it exciting, because this isn't a

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Speaker 6: staff that they're so they're so young and molded that

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Speaker 6: they're not coming in with like set ways they're going

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Speaker 6: to It feels like anyway.

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Speaker 5: They're going to figure out, to your point, personnel, what

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Speaker 5: do I have.

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Speaker 6: I don't think they did that last season. It was like, Okay,

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Speaker 6: this this is what I got, so now let's force

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Speaker 6: it into this box. And it just did not work

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Speaker 6: all season long.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so well we can't do that anymore. I'm pretty

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Speaker 3: sure the staff won't do that. So that's a good

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Speaker 3: thing though.

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Speaker 5: All Right, well we've got to wrap up the show.

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Speaker 3: We will be back here on Mondays at ten a m.

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Speaker 6: Hopefully we'll have Ayisha back, but it'll be our last

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Speaker 6: show with three for a little bit, for a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she'll be back, but shout out to you. She's

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Speaker 3: having her baby soon, so we love that. We're welcome

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Speaker 3: little nephew, surely. But that's a wrapper Today show for

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Speaker 3: Girls Talk, Boys Talk for Brianna Aldrich, Christie Scales. I'm

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Speaker 3: Nicole Hutcheson.

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Speaker 5: We'll be back here next week.

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