WEBVTT - Enemy Above 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:04.760 Strange Arrivals is a production of I Heeart three D 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:15.480 audio for full exposure. Listen with headphones. Have you brought 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:20.279 with you, um, some of those devices which would have 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:22.720 enabled the CEE i A to use this poison for 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:29.520 we have indeed for killing people. Just goal of fire 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:33.479 the dart, Yes, it does, Mr Chairman. The that the 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:36.720 round thing at the top is obviously the site. The 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:40.600 rest of it is what is practically a normal forty five, 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:45.120 although it's is special it however, it works by electricity. 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:48.559 There's in battery and the handle and it fires a 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:51.840 small dart so that when it fires, it fires silently, 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:57.600 almost silently. Yes, that very little. What range does it have? 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:04.040 Hundred meters? I believe about about a hundred yards a 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:08.760 hundred about a hundred meters rank and the dark itself 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:15.160 when it strikes the the the target. Um does the 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:17.280 target know that he's about that he's been hit and 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:20.520 about to die? That depends Mr Chairman on the particular 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:24.680 dardas there are different kinds of easily. I'm Toby Ball 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:45.240 and this is Strange Arrivals Episode ten. Enemy above Paul 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:49.840 Benowitz's suspicions that UFOs were present around Curtland Air Force 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:54.720 Space in Albuquerque, New Mexico, began in the late nineties seventies, 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:58.000 as he filmed lights and picked up radio signals at 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:01.800 his house just outside the gates separating the base from 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:06.440 the civilian world. In the decades since the Condon Committee 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:10.120 rendered its final word on UFOs and Project Blue Book 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:14.600 was subsequently shut down, the American attitude towards the federal 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:20.079 government had changed considerably. In some ways. Many Americans now 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:23.920 felt the way UFO proponents had following the Robertson and 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:28.440 Condon reports that the government held secrets and was willing 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:32.400 to lie to the public in order to keep them. 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:36.399 It brought a certain kind of conspiratorial thinking into the zeitgeist, 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:40.760 a suspicion that the government was involved in dark things. 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:46.120 In his book The United States of Paranoia, author Jesse 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:52.160 Walker describes five archetypal conspiracy stories, the enemy below, the 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:57.280 enemy within, the enemy outside, the enemy above, and the 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:03.560 benevolent conspiracy. In the nineteen seventies, the enemy above archetype 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:07.920 became more prominent. The enemy above is the kind of 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:11.320 conspiracy theory that most people have in mind when they 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:16.480 say conspiracy theory. It's the fear of powerful institutions. It's 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:22.359 the fear of either the institutions themselves, the government, big business, 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:25.840 the idea that the people within these institutions are conspiring 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:29.440 against the public, or the idea that some sort of 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:34.760 subversive forces trying to take control of those institutions um 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:38.320 and use them as a tool to get whatever it 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:41.000 wants from the public, which often involves a sort of 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:44.400 a master slave relationship. So in general, you know, if 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:46.920 you hear people talking about a c I, a conspiracy 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:50.440 or something like that, that's the enemy above. And by 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:54.040 the late nineteen seventies there was no shortage of evidence 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:58.440 of real conspiracies coming from inside the government, beginning of 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:03.040 course with water Gate, and I think it you're also 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:07.000 aware that the President has refused to honor the subpoena 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:12.800 issued by this committee for tapes and including specifically uh 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:16.000 these two tapes won the September fifteen tape and the 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:18.719 Marks Point first tape. I think you're aware of that. 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:21.080 I am aware of that yet, and that his reason 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:24.599 for doing so has been on executive privilege and separation 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:29.440 of power and reasons. Yes. University of New Hampshire History 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:34.120 professor Kirk Dorsey it's not even so much to break in. 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:37.720 It's all the revelations that Nixon was not just breaking 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:40.599 into trying to find out about the Democratic Party, but 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:42.560 that he had the FBI, the I R S, and 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:46.680 the c i A all working against his enemies, that 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:48.600 he had an enemy's list, and then he had those 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:53.600 agencies actually working domestically. It indicated it wasn't just the president, 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:55.760 it wasn't just one bad guy in the White House, 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:58.120 but actually that he was able to corrupt all these 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:01.839 other institutions. And if all those institutions could be corrupted 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:05.120 so easily by Richard Dixon and nobody would have found out. 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.200 You know, if they had hired good burglars, none of 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:10.760 this would have happened. And I think it reinforced people's 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:14.080 ideas so you can keep secrets and really big ones too. 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:18.800 Less well known now, but also important were the findings 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:21.920 of the Church Committee. We wouldn't have had the Church 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:23.800 Commity with that Watergate because part of the reason why 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:27.279 Senator Church has decided to run this investigation because the 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:30.359 Democrats controlled the Senate is Frank Church from Idaho, was 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:33.360 to basically say, we just found out that the president 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:35.680 was using the CIA illegally. So we're going to use 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:39.359 our new power with the weakening of the presidency to 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:43.039 investigate the executive branch. And the CIA has never come 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:44.880 clean to Congress about what it's doing, so we're going 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:47.320 to start just piling up all the evidence we can 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:55.400 in The Church Committee investigated intelligence abuses by the CIA, 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:59.800 the FBI, the n s A, and the I r S. 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:04.000 And it did two things. One is it revealed all 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:06.760 these dark secrets that the United States have done overseas 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:11.120 and domestically, but then also revealed things that had seemed 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:13.919 to be successes that people knew about, like Guatemala and 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:17.200 Iran interventions from the mid nineteen fifties, actually were a 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:19.680 lot dirtier than they have been portrayed in the American people. 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:24.240 Here we are talking about the CIA instigating coups against 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:29.279 Jacobo are Bends in Guatemala in nineteen fifty four and 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:34.760 Mohammed mosadag in Iran in nineteen fifty three. The free 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.520 those taken prisoner earlier, and a storm the House of Massartic. 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:41.640 The Foreign Minister Fatimi gets through first to books that 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:44.799 he was told to pieces had not been confirmed. Meanwhile, 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:47.200 the mob flopped the streets demanding the return of the 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:52.200 Shop Masodic and his government has swept from power in 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:55.000 favorite of General Zahidi, the man appointed by the Shop 0:06:55.080 --> 0:07:00.520 in the first place, and assassination attempts against, among others, 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:04.839 Patrice La Mumba in the Congo, whose murder was not 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:10.520 conclusively tied to the CIA and Fidel Castro. And you know, 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:12.960 one of the particular things in the Church Committee wasn't 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:16.679 revealed how the CIA and both the Nixon and Kennedy 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:20.560 administrations contracted with mafia killers to get rid of Castro. 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:23.320 They couldn't even claim it was, you know, law and order. 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:25.720 I think some of those documents from the Church Committee 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:29.840 showed that they were giving poison capsules to the mob 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:33.320 to use against Castro. So it's it's revealing a CIA 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:36.320 that's just out of control, not very smart, and hardly 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:38.880 the best and the brightest, And it just reinforces this 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:42.440 notion that the federal government was worse than incompetent. It 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.280 was corrupt and incompetent, which is a pretty bad combindation. 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:47.840 So what happens when you have a whole lot of 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:52.640 real life conspiracies revealed is it of course makes people 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:57.120 more willing to imagine further conspiracies. What it was revealed 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:02.440 the CIA had been doing a rug experiments, surreptitiously giving 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:07.600 LSD to unwitting subjects and recording their reactions and seeing 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:09.720 if this could be used, you know, in sort of 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:15.040 the circumststances of brainwashing, resisting brainwashing and so on. This 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:20.480 is the infamous Project mk Ultra. So once it's revealed 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:23.280 that the CIA is doing something like that, it becomes 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:25.360 a lot easier for people to imagine, well, maybe they 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:29.080 killed JFK. The imagination takes an extra leap forward. A 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:32.080 number of people were already thinking along those lines about JFK, 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:35.400 but this made that much more imaginable for other people. 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:41.040 This new strain of conspiratorial thinking began to show up 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:45.160 in popular culture a decade a decade and a half 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:51.040 before all these mid nineteen seventies investigations, Your average Just 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:54.439 Spy movie was American Spy was almost certainly going to 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:57.319 be the hero. You're gonna sympathize with him as he 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:00.800 struggles against either the Communists or some sort of imaginary 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:05.120 terror conspiracy like Specter in the seventies. Of course, you 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:08.960 have this big wave of conspiracy thrillers where the U. S. 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:12.120 Government is the enemy or is allied with the enemy. 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:16.080 Since the assassination, six of these people have died in 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:19.560 some kind of an accident. There is no evidence of 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:25.320 a conspiracy, and once that becomes a part of the conversation, 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.720 that in turn also makes it easier for people to 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:32.240 imagine real conspiracies. America has always been a home for 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:37.280 conspiratorial thinking, and the nineteen seventies didn't necessarily see an 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:40.560 increase in this thought. But instead of change and the 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:45.320 focus of these fears, it's that people's conspiracy theories were 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:50.400 more likely to start. Institutions like the CIA, the FBI, 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:52.400 of the White House, and if you look at the 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:54.920 polls that sort of look at the levels of public trust, 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:58.119 you know, the US government itself and in different agencies 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.960 of the U. S. Government, I mean the CIA and 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:06.160 the FBI, They their numbers took a lunch. So it's 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:10.080 important to understand the tenor of the times because when 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:13.679 Paul Benowitz was contacted by Air Force Office of Special 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:18.880 Investigations agent Richard Doughty, he wasn't just vulnerable to influence 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:22.560 because of his belief in the reality of aliens visiting Earth. 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:26.679 He was also vulnerable because he lived in a society 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:30.200 that believed that the government did bad things in secret. 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:38.000 On October, Benewitz, acting out of a patriotic sense of duty, 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:42.120 called Curtland Air Force Bass head of Security, Major Ernest 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:45.400 Edwards and told him about what he had filmed and 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:50.880 recorded over the previous months. After this call, Major Edwards 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:54.680 got in touch with Richard Doughty, I was a counter 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:57.440 intelligence officer for the base. He gave me all the 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:00.920 information that Paul had given him. So I said, Wow, 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.360 that's interesting. So I made an appointment and went out 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:07.320 and talked to Paul. Paul told me the same stories, 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:11.920 shared everything that he had done. I immediately sent a 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:16.480 message up to headquarters. Headquarters said, started an investigation. Then 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:19.000 I got ahold of a man by the name of 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:25.400 Jerry Miller. Miller was a scientist and former Project Bluebook investigator. 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:31.199 We found that what the signals at Paul was gathering 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:35.080 was a very highly classified n S A project that 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:39.800 was occurring on base. It's no longer classified. We were 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:44.200 shooting lasers into the air when Soviet satellites were flying 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:47.400 over the base, and we were hitting the lens of 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:52.800 the Soviet satellites, blinding them, preventing them from taking pictures 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:58.200 of the base. Well, somehow Paul tapped into that. Paul 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:02.319 also was taking pictures of a highly classified drone project 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:05.160 that was being experimented with on the base. Back in 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:10.959 drones were highly classified. What they did back in those days. 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:14.800 They would have a controlling aircraft that would launch these drones, 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:18.640 and they would control the drones from inside aircraft, so 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:21.920 the aircraft was always in close proximity to these drones. 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:26.199 So these drones would be flying close around these aircraft, 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:29.640 and it looked like there was some maybe danger or 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:33.560 hostility of these drones stores that aircraft, but actually that 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:37.480 aircraft was a controlling aircraft. This is probably as good 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:40.400 a time as any to reiterate my words of caution 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:45.400 about Rick Doughty from last episode. Doty spent years planting 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:49.280 disinformation in the UFO community, an effort we are looking 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:53.240 at in this episode in the next. It makes sense 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:56.319 to believe that anything that he says is in furtherance 0:12:56.360 --> 0:13:00.360 of this goal, even though he is long retired. I 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:02.360 don't know why he would be any more honest with 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:06.040 me than anyone else. Some of the things he says, 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:10.400 less sensational things are consistent with other accounts of the 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:16.439 same events. Other things, including the more sensational things, should 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:21.840 be treated as untrustworthy. With that in mind, here's Doady again. 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:26.679 So when we found all this out, the project I 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:29.200 was told to do was convinced Paul that what he 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:32.640 was seeing was in fact UFOs And it wasn't difficult 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:36.920 to do because Paul was a member of MUFON and 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:44.280 a pro. MOUFON and APRO were two civilian UFO investigation organizations. 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:48.839 MOUFON is still active today. Paul had been a field 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:52.360 investigator for MUFON and APRO for a number of years. 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:56.200 Paul was already a believer in UFOs, so it wasn't 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:59.120 difficult for us to convince Paul that what he was 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:01.600 seeing with UFO, and that's what we wanted him to think, 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:05.800 to prevent him from maybe disclosing the fact that we 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:11.880 were testing classified drones or classified leisure project. In fact, 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:15.880 in addition to his documenting the Curtland Lights, he was 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:19.520 also focusing attention on a place called the Archiletta Mesa, 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:23.200 which rises up to over nine thousand feet in altitude 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:27.800 in northern New Mexico. Paul was a pilot. He had 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:32.440 a plane and he would fly all over. He flew 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:37.240 a person up to Dulcie, New Mexico once and and 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:40.680 when he was coming back, he saw some strange things 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:45.200 occurring in Archiletta Peak, which is east of Dulcie, very 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:48.160 strange things, and he flew up there a number of times, 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:52.360 photographing a lot of these strange occurrences. Paul was told 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:55.520 within the UFO community that there was an underground UFO 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:59.200 based up there, and so Paul was convinced it was 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:02.800 UFO related. I went up there with Paul once and 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.160 we saw some strange things happening up on top of 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:08.240 the Archiletta Peak, and I didn't know what it was. 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:11.760 So I started checking within the intelligence community, and I 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:14.800 found out there was a special unit at Fort Carson, Colorado, 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:19.800 near four Collins that was using that area. What Doughty 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:22.880 says he learned was that it was a Special Forces 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:26.000 training area and the lights have been planted in the 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:31.320 ground to guide incoming helicopters. Now, if you're standing below 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:35.320 down on the ground, several thousand feet down from the 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:38.800 top of the Archipelata Peak, you saw these lights turn on, 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:42.480 they look like especially if if they were hitting the cloud, 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:45.720 they looked like UFOs flying up there. So what Paul 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.480 was seeing wasn't actually just just lights that were built 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:50.920 into the MESA up there, and and and it had 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:54.400 nothing to do with the UFOs. Doty says that he 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.560 couldn't tell Bennewit's the truth about the area because the 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:01.480 project was classified. Whether that was the reason or not, 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:06.640 Doty used the lights to reinforce Bennewitz's suspicions about the MESA. 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:13.200 So that was another maybe disinformation statement I gave to Paul. Now, 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:17.600 remember Doughty was tasked with sewing disinformation, and I have 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:20.600 no reason to believe he didn't use our interview to 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:24.560 continue that work. With that in mind, he told me 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:29.960 this strange story. Now, another interesting thing occurred a couple 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:34.720 of years later. Paul was flying up to Dolcie and 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:37.960 he had a one of his employees seated with him 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.480 and and they had a camera. As they were coming 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:44.480 back about over where red Rivers located, baub Bennouits encounter 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:47.600 the UFO, a huge UFO that he took pictures of, 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:52.840 and he saw into the UFO he saw a little 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:56.880 creatures inside through the window of portals. When Paul got back, 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:00.080 he called me and said, you're not gonna believe what 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.520 I got. I said, what do you have? He said, 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:05.400 I got pictures of a real UFO, A big UFO, 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:09.440 huge UFO that I almost collided with over Red River 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:12.720 in New Mexico. Paul had his own photo lap so 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:14.520 I said, yeah, I'll come over and let me come 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:16.199 over and look at these pictures. I went over there. 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:19.440 I looked at these pictures. That was astounded. I mean, 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:24.280 you know, I know of what I've seen in classified documents, 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:28.879 and this object was huge. And I said, well, gosh, 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:32.280 you you photographed are real and you all a huge one. 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:34.640 He said, that's a mother ship. I know it's a mothership. 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:38.800 So I sent those pictures up the headquarters and they 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:42.159 were astounded by it, but they didn't have an answer 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:45.720 what they were. Where this scraft came from. Duty says. 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.159 He asked ben a Witz if he'd shared them with 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:51.600 the UFO community. He said, no, no, no, no, no, 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:54.000 no no no. I'm afraid it's too hostile. I don't 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:56.480 want anybody else to know about it. And I took 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:59.119 his pictures and I also took his negatives and we 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:01.800 sent him up to why Shehington of the chain And 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:03.720 of course people ask me today where are they? Where 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:06.200 are they? Well, they're up there someplace. Do you think 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:08.800 the government's going to release that stuff? No, they're not 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:13.520 going to release it. During this time, Bennowitz also took 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:16.280 photos of a crashed craft of some sort on the 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:20.000 mesa maybe an early version of the Stealth Fighter or 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:26.159 a drone author Greg Bishop. So nobody knows exactly what 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:28.000 he took pictures of because all the pictures of an 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:31.440 actual crash were stolen out of his house, and Doty 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:33.240 said either he or somebody in the Air Force did 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:35.280 it because they didn't find him to have for his pictures, 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:37.720 So they would break into his house and like go 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:41.040 through it stuff and sometimes move furniture around just to 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:44.919 mess with him, which none of this is ethical or proper, 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:48.680 but that's what they did. I think they thought, especially 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:51.720 somebody like Dotie, thinks, you know, if I can accomplish 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:53.800 the mission, that you know, I can pretty much do 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:57.920 what I want. This effort came to include more direct 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:02.480 methods to amplify Bennewood his paranoia, which took a very 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:24.160 dark turn. After the break, as the Air Force continued 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:29.120 its disinformation campaign against Paul Benowitz, they allegedly gave him 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:32.439 some new computer software that they said would help in 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:36.919 deciphering the signals he was picking up from Kurtland. The 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:42.719 translated messages were intended to further trigger his paranoia. Bennewitz 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:46.119 considered his work to be a kind of scientific study, 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:52.679 and he produced a report summarizing his conclusions, titled Project Beta. 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:57.720 It is, to say the least, a troubling document. In it, 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:03.080 Benewitz details his certain of a hostile, devious alien presence 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:07.679 and the existential threat that they presented. Here are a 0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:10.800 few excerpts that give you an idea of the sense 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:15.399 of dread that pervades his writings. It is important to 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:20.320 note at the outset the alien is devious employees deception, 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:24.679 has no intent of any apparent peace making process, and 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:30.639 obviously does not adhere to any prior arranged agreement. In truth, 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:34.320 they tend to lie. However, their memory for line is 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:39.080 not long, and direct comparative computer print out analysis reveals 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:43.359 this fact. They are picking up and cutting, as the 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:48.359 alien calls it, many people every night. Each implanted individual 0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:52.040 is apparently ready for the pull of their switch. Whether 0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:57.480 all implants are totally effective I cannot predict, but conservatively 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:01.439 I would estimate at least three thousand or more in 0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:06.600 the US and at least two hundred million, if not more, worldwide. 0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:11.800 They appear to be totally death oriented, and because of this, 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:20.720 absolutely death fear oriented. This is a psychological advantage. No negotiation, agreement, 0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:25.159 nor peaceful compromise can be settled upon in any way. 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:29.439 No agreement signed by both parties will ever be adhered to, 0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:34.040 nor recognized and respected by the alien, though they may 0:21:34.080 --> 0:21:39.840 attempt to make us believe otherwise. This analysis has entered 0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:46.760 the wilder realms of UFO folklore. Greg Bishop. The aftermath 0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:50.520 of this is, you know, adulcie underground based rumors those 0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:54.800 got started then, like aliens are here have making deals 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:58.439 with the United States government in exchange for who knows what, 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:01.680 you know, abduction rights or some thing like that. I've 0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:03.920 seen a letter where somebody wrote to him and told 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:07.960 him that all spiritual teachers throughout history where either aliens 0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:10.919 or influenced by them or whatever. All these things that 0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:13.399 were floating around in the late eighties and early nineties 0:22:13.440 --> 0:22:16.000 being told to Paul Benewits. A lot of them ended 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:19.280 up in the UFO mythos, and it's still there a 0:22:19.280 --> 0:22:22.200 lot of them. And I don't think there's any underground 0:22:22.200 --> 0:22:25.120 basis with aliens in them. There's certainly our underground basis. 0:22:25.160 --> 0:22:29.080 There's tons of them, there's tons of underground facilities. But 0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:32.480 as far as having anything to do with extraterrestrials, I 0:22:32.560 --> 0:22:37.400 seriously got that. If you search, they'll say aliens on Google. 0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:41.400 You can read all kinds of wild stories about secret treaties, 0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:47.840 reptilian aliens, and battles between humans and extraterrestrials and underground bases, 0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:54.960 like I said, the fringes of UFO folklore. Eventually, Benewit's 0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:58.119 got more and more paranoid, And there's a dispute as 0:22:58.160 --> 0:23:01.040 to whether he was already sort of paranoid before he 0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:04.119 talked to the Airforce or not. I still think he was, 0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:08.000 and that this episode just made it worse, and the 0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:11.639 Air Force and the various intelligence agencies just made it 0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:16.959 worse by encouraging him and occasionally by feeding him disinformation. 0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:21.600 Another story that comes out of the Benewit's affair involves 0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:25.880 the passing of an altered document. According to this story, 0:23:26.080 --> 0:23:29.600 Doughty used a man named Bill Moore as an intermediary 0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:33.879 to Benewitz. You might remember Bill Moore from the previous episode. 0:23:34.520 --> 0:23:36.520 He was one of the authors of the book that 0:23:36.560 --> 0:23:44.200 brought Roswell back to public attention. Anyway, Doughty again allegedly 0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:48.000 gave more a document to pass to his friend Benowitz. 0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:52.280 Bill Moore was told to give him a teletype that 0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:58.080 mentioned UFO activity and interest around UFO activity, and actually 0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:01.880 mentioned one of the sightings that he had or a document. 0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:06.640 And so Bill was told to give this document to Beneuits. 0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:09.640 And what Bill told me is he took it to him. 0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:11.760 He said, this is the only thing he ever gave 0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:14.600 to him. I trust him because Bill has never lied 0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:17.440 to me. He said, he took this document down there, 0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:21.280 and at night, after his company was closed, benewits his company, 0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:23.760 he said, I have to talk to you. We have 0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:26.399 to go in the supply closet. He went in the 0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:29.280 supply closet, turned the radio out, and gave him the 0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:31.480 document and yelled in his ear. I was told to 0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:33.400 give this to you. Take it with a grain assault. 0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:37.960 The document, which was made to appear as an official 0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:42.119 government teletype, essentially said that while the Air Force was 0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:47.680 no longer officially investigating UFOs, IT and other government agencies 0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:53.720 led by NASA, we're continuing to investigate legitimate sightings in secret. 0:24:54.760 --> 0:25:00.359 It also includes these two sentences. The official US REMNT 0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:05.800 policy and results of Project Aquarius is still classified top secret, 0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:11.040 with no dissemination outside official intelligence channels, and with restricted 0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:16.679 access to m J twelve. Cason Benewitz is being monitored 0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:21.600 by NASA I N S who requests all future evidence 0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:25.000 to be forwarded to them through a f O S 0:25:25.040 --> 0:25:30.440 I I v O E. There are two interesting things here. 0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:35.920 One is that last sentence that indicates continued federal interest 0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:39.800 in Benowitz's work. It must be there to further convince 0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:43.040 Benowits that he is on the right track regarding UFOs. 0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:48.439 The second interesting thing is the allusion to Project Aquarius 0:25:48.480 --> 0:25:52.119 and m J twelve, which is the first mention of 0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:55.679 what would become a major part of modern UFO folklore, 0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:59.400 with Bill Moore right in the middle. We will look 0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:03.960 at this in the next episode. Doughty more or less 0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:07.800 denies being behind the passing of this document to Benewitz. 0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:12.480 Well number one, I never passed anything to Paul Benowitz. 0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:16.000 That had anything new with him J twelve. I never 0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:22.080 passed Paul Benowitz any classified documents. That's absolutely maloney. You 0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:24.920 can parse this statement and note that he doesn't rule 0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:28.040 out giving something to more to pass to Benewits that 0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:31.240 involved MJ twelve, or that the memo might not have 0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:34.760 been classified, and therefore he's not ruling it out for 0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:38.600 that reason. But regardless of whether Doughty was behind it 0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:43.800 or not, Benewitz received the document. I'll also note that 0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:47.520 another reason for considering the possibility that Doughty didn't pass 0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:50.320 on the memo is that the Air Force Office of 0:26:50.359 --> 0:26:54.840 Special Investigations was not the only federal agency with interest 0:26:54.960 --> 0:27:00.200 in Paul Benowitz. Myself, another agent and Jerry May were 0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:03.879