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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 2: Ray Allen, great golfer and one of the great shooters

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Speaker 2: of all time, joining us on the program. You played Oakmont, right, Nope,

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Speaker 2: I never have. Yeah. Yeah, toughest course you played, uh today?

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Speaker 2: The toughest course I would have to say is I'll

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Speaker 2: say on Homeland.

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Speaker 3: I would say Madina in Chicago, And then just recently

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Speaker 3: a couple of months ago, I played cab at Saint

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Speaker 3: Lucia and it was a beast.

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Speaker 2: How is Jordan's as far as the test his skills,

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Speaker 2: his course?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 3: The grove, the grove, it is not difficult, uh, because

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Speaker 3: you can you can pretty much hit it anywhere off

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Speaker 3: the tee greens getting you know, really fast.

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Speaker 5: I think you have to really.

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Speaker 3: Know how to chip around there, you know, if you

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Speaker 3: get around the green and it's like, you know, for

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Speaker 3: the for the first couple of rounds, it was like

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Speaker 3: I didn't even want to play the.

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Speaker 5: Place because I couldn't get up and down. I was

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Speaker 5: like blading everything.

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Speaker 3: And I realized the bounce on my wedge was too

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Speaker 3: high for that course.

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Speaker 2: So you got to have a low bounce because the

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Speaker 2: grass is really tight. Does Michael make the course to

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Speaker 2: his liking.

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Speaker 3: I would say that he plays it fairly well because

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Speaker 3: distance really isn't a factor there. The way he plays it.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't hit the ball far, but he gets up

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Speaker 3: and down from everywhere. So he gets the ball in

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Speaker 3: front of the green, he's gonna get up and down

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Speaker 3: and he's a great He's probably the best putter that

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Speaker 3: I've seen, you know, amateur. So you lose a lot

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Speaker 3: of round of greens there.

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Speaker 5: And he's really good there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, a couple of things here. Grown is the first

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Speaker 2: organic fast food restaurant founded by you and Miami, Right,

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Speaker 2: all right, all right, so Shannon and Ray created Grown,

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Speaker 2: and you launched a nationwide franchising program. Look at you.

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Speaker 2: You yeah, branching out, all right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, you get those people who

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Speaker 3: talk about getting the trainer and I need to work

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Speaker 3: on losing weight. But you know, our bodies are created

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Speaker 3: by how we eat, and you know, that's kind of

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Speaker 3: been the cornerstone of my career, focusing on how to

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Speaker 3: eat correctly. I had Nutritionis for the first time in

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Speaker 3: twenty ten, and even then I sculpted myself, you know,

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Speaker 3: to even greater point. Just understanding what not to eat,

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Speaker 3: you know, eating at the right times, specifically for a

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Speaker 3: professional athlete. And so that's the thing people we're dealing with.

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Speaker 3: We're at this cross roads in this country where we're

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Speaker 3: eating so poorly. The foods that are we have access to,

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Speaker 3: they're killing us. And so we've been on an all

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Speaker 3: are getting diet, my wife and I'm my family, my kids,

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Speaker 3: and specifically my son Walker since he was diagnosed with

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Speaker 3: diabetes at seventeen months. So putting foods in our body

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Speaker 3: to make sure that we don't take on those chemicals,

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Speaker 3: you know, those processes and those GMOs like super important.

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Speaker 3: And that's one of the reasons that we exist is

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Speaker 3: to make sure that we provide food for people. You know,

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Speaker 3: in Miami we have a drive through, so providing food

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Speaker 3: for people that allow them to eat foods without the guilts,

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Speaker 3: Foods that they could prepare for their families, food that

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Speaker 3: they can eat on the go.

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Speaker 2: If you're looking for exploring franchise opportunities at gron dot

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Speaker 2: org or email at franchise at grown dot org. Talking

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Speaker 2: to Ray Allen, I noticed this on social media where

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Speaker 2: there was a discussion about Lebron doesn't have the bag. Now,

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize what they were saying, so I asked Marvin.

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Speaker 2: He interpreted that since she's younger, and he says that

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Speaker 2: means that he doesn't have go to moves. I thought

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Speaker 2: it was money was the bag and he goes, no,

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Speaker 2: it can mean a lot of things. So Lebron doesn't

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Speaker 2: have the bag. What does that mean to you?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think over the course of a player's career,

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Speaker 3: you kind of consistently see what they can do on

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Speaker 3: a regular basis, and they do that. You pay to

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Speaker 3: see them play, You go watch them play, and they

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Speaker 3: do that move that they do consistently and they nobody

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Speaker 3: could stop it. You know, There's so many players over

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Speaker 3: the history and just kind of when you look at

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Speaker 3: the NBA today, we've lost a lot of skill from

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Speaker 3: that standpoint, because even when I came into the league,

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Speaker 3: we had mid range players, we had great pick and

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Speaker 3: now it's kind of like you're looking at a league

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Speaker 3: of guys that you know you're shooting. It's a lot

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Speaker 3: of one on one stuff, shooting a lot of threes.

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Speaker 3: And ironically, between OKAC and Indiana, there are probably two

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Speaker 3: of the few teams in the NBA that are shooting

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Speaker 3: mid ranges. And that's evident in how they got here

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Speaker 3: today to be in these finals because they're not relying

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Speaker 3: on analytics to only shoot threes. They're making sure they

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Speaker 3: get into the paint. So when they have those scoring droughts,

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Speaker 3: Halliburton drives, Like in the game seven against New York,

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Speaker 3: he just or game six, I think it was Halliburton

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Speaker 3: just just picking rolls, got into the paint, he scored.

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Speaker 5: And so so ultimately, when you talk.

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Speaker 3: About a guy having a bag, it's having that pet

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Speaker 3: move where they can get to it and nobody can

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Speaker 3: stop it. And and Lebron has always been an unstoppable,

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Speaker 3: undeniable force where if you put a bigger guy on him,

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Speaker 3: he can't keep up with him because he doesn't have

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Speaker 3: the football. If he put a smaller guy on him,

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Speaker 3: he doesn't have the size. So Lebron's never really had

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Speaker 3: to have a pet move because he can just go

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Speaker 3: downhill everybody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, the casual fan doesn't appreciate that ray.

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Speaker 2: They don't they don't see what you see. They want

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Speaker 2: to see like, oh my god, there's a skyhook or

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Speaker 2: iversen breaking ankles. Uh. You know Lebron with physicality, you know,

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Speaker 2: nobody's going to go wow, look at that. And you

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Speaker 2: know Jordan had the aesthetics. I mean he had you know,

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Speaker 2: whether it's to fade away, going to the hoop, all

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Speaker 2: of those things. It just feels like because Lebron doesn't

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Speaker 2: look his game doesn't look pretty, you know, therefore he

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Speaker 2: doesn't have a bag.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: I mean also it's statistic driven.

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Speaker 3: The league is because the guys scoring more so being

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Speaker 3: able to get to the free throw line, being able

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Speaker 3: to score and transition and take the first shot available.

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Speaker 3: You know, you really don't have to because I think

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Speaker 3: even with with Giannis the year before.

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Speaker 5: They want the NBA Championship in Milwaukee, you.

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Speaker 3: Can see that he was trying to play a certain

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Speaker 3: He was trying to make a move and he didn't

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Speaker 3: have it. He didn't have that skill set and it

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Speaker 3: hurt Milwaukee's offense. And then the following year when he

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Speaker 3: Drew Drews the one of their go tos. And then

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Speaker 3: Middleton was a guy who down the stretch would score

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Speaker 3: he got a wide open shot, he took it, but

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Speaker 3: he didn't know for accessibilities. And I think a lot

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Speaker 3: of times that's what it boils down to. It's just

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Speaker 3: rely on your team. So with Lebron, you know, that's

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Speaker 3: just the pop culture way of saying that he doesn't

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Speaker 3: seeing from him every night. But he's still as much

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Speaker 3: as he's in the game, he's still going to score

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Speaker 3: twenty five plus points a night just because he has

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Speaker 3: pure dominance.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Ray Allen, the Hall of Famer, explain to

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Speaker 2: me the Jason kids that you Brian Windhorse said, there's

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Speaker 2: mutual interest Jason Kidd and the Knicks. Him coaching the Knicks.

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Speaker 2: You have Cooper Flyg coming to Dallas, and why would

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Speaker 2: he want to leave that? And you're going to go

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Speaker 2: I'm bringing in Jason Kidd if he can bring in Giannis.

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Speaker 2: If Yannas says all right, I want to go play

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Speaker 2: for Jason Kidd in New York. Other than that, why

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Speaker 2: would Jason Kidd want to coach the Knicks instead of

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Speaker 2: the Mavericks.

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Speaker 3: So this is pretty interesting conversation because even when Tibbs

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Speaker 3: it to the conference finals out, how can we.

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Speaker 5: Fire a guy like that?

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Speaker 3: A lot of times we're you know, in the in

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Speaker 3: things were happening in locker rooms that people had no

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Speaker 3: idea as to what was taking place, and so people

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Speaker 3: had opinions, and I think a lot of times you

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Speaker 3: is there could be, you know, some type of deal

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Speaker 3: being worked where all these pieces kind of you know,

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Speaker 2: They fall like Domino. So do you is going to

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Speaker 2: be traded to the next Well?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I know he's been quipping about leaving Milwaukee,

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Speaker 3: him to leave Milwaukee and understanding the void that that

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Speaker 3: that leaves Milwaukee. You know, they really want to get

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Speaker 3: something for him. So it really will depend on you

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Speaker 3: know what that looks like. When I got traded from

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Speaker 3: like six players. I was like, oh, I'm so out

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Speaker 3: was like, yes, Seattle's taking that easily. So it will

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Speaker 3: depend on, you know, how Milwaukee can set themselves up

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Speaker 3: for their future and who they get back in return.

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Speaker 3: But you know, look out Eastern Conference and NBA. If

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Speaker 3: Jonnis ends up in New York, because obviously it's a

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Speaker 3: huge market, it's great mark for him and with the

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Speaker 3: success that they've had recently with New York, but it

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Speaker 2: If OKC wins this, let's say they win it in

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Speaker 2: five or six, will they be recognized as one of

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Speaker 2: the great single season teams of all time.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's hard to say that, but to your point,

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Speaker 3: it's amazing that they haven't gotten the do you know,

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Speaker 3: they won sixty eight games this year. My two championship season,

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Speaker 3: we won sixty sixteen, So definitely from a record standpoint,

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Speaker 3: they have to be given that respecting that due in

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Speaker 3: the same token, they're so young, So I don't think

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Speaker 3: people expecting them to get there to this point. Even

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Speaker 3: you take a team like Cleveland being the number one

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Speaker 3: seed and I think they had the best record in

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Speaker 3: the NBA throughout the year, most people aren't surprised that

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Speaker 3: they're not here right now because they were so young,

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Speaker 3: and the fact that okay See made it, You would

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Speaker 3: It shoots teams in and out of the game in

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Speaker 8: we first met when I was at MBA Entertainment. But

439
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Speaker 8: to tell those stories to fans, I think that's what

440
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Speaker 8: draws them in. I mean, there's the lovers of pure basketball,

441
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Speaker 8: and I think the basketball is fantastic, but you also

442
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Speaker 8: have to show how multi dimensional these players are, and

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Speaker 8: you know, explain to them the storylines, the conflict on

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Speaker 8: the floor. And nobody does that better than NBC.

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Speaker 2: You talked about Michael staying current. There are times when

446
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Speaker 2: Charles may not know who's even playing in a game

447
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Speaker 2: that he's watching. Now, it's funny to us, but you're

448
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Speaker 2: the commissioner and this is your lead broadcast team or

449
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Speaker 2: studio show. How does that kind of settle with you?

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Speaker 2: When Charles may not even know who he's talking about.

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Speaker 8: Well, that may be a little extreme. I mean I'm

452
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Speaker 8: down there a fair amount at their studio Atlanta. I mean,

453
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Speaker 8: he's watching the games. I mean they made a decision

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Speaker 8: to take an entertainment route with that studio show. I mean,

455
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Speaker 8: I think ESP was always about more hardcore basketball. Maybe

456
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Speaker 8: NBC was somewhere in the middle in the old days.

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Speaker 8: But it's an entertainment show and he's entertaining and fans

458
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Speaker 8: seem to love it. You know. Sometimes he's a bit

459
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Speaker 8: of the crazy uncle, I think, But even when he's

460
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Speaker 8: I think there's a difference when putting aside, you know,

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Speaker 8: how focused he is on the game. My sense always

462
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Speaker 8: when Charles is critical, it is a little bit like

463
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Speaker 8: your uncle at the Thanksgiving table being critical. It's like

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Speaker 8: there's no doubt it comes from a place of love.

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Speaker 8: You know. I don't feel the same way about some

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Speaker 8: of the other commentators, and I think it's just it's

467
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Speaker 8: you know, Charles found a lane and he does it well,

468
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Speaker 8: and it'll be interesting to see how that converts. As

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Speaker 8: you know, they're now bringing that studio show to ESPN

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Speaker 8: and ABC next year. Yeah, I think, you know, we'll

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Speaker 8: see how that works out. I mean, I you know,

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Speaker 8: I love the fact that those guys are still going

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Speaker 8: to be involved in our telecast, but you know, I'm

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Speaker 8: not sure whether it will be produced differently for them,

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Speaker 8: or there be a different expectation from ESPN and ABC

476
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Speaker 8: fans or watchers that maybe what people are seeing late

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Speaker 8: at night on TNT.

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Speaker 2: He's the Commissioner of the NBA, Adam Silver. You know,

479
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Speaker 2: everybody gets caught up in ratings and I just say,

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Speaker 2: either watch it or not. You know, but the role

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Speaker 2: that social media plays on your priority list because this

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Speaker 2: is a global game and people may not watch the game,

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Speaker 2: but they're watching those clips. You know, you're getting views there.

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Speaker 2: But as the commissioner, you got to, you know, pay

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Speaker 2: homage to the networks. But where does social media rank

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Speaker 2: on your priority list?

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Speaker 8: Social media is high on our priority list. I mean,

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Speaker 8: first of all, we've had something like a billion view

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Speaker 8: so far globally on social media since the finals have started.

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Speaker 8: But also to get back to your ratings point, I

491
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Speaker 8: think what gets lost sometimes is just like social media

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Speaker 8: is global, so are the telc of our games. And

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Speaker 8: I understand people wanting to talk about our domestic ratings

494
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Speaker 8: and the extent that the ratings are down, that's a storyline.

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Speaker 8: Or they're up, there's a storyline. And there is a

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Speaker 8: correlation between market size more than I'm happy about.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 8: I was listening to Aaron Rodgers yesterday and he was

499
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Speaker 8: talking about now becoming a stealer and he was saying,

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Speaker 8: now I've played for two of the most storied franchises,

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Speaker 8: the Packers and the Steelers, but nobody stopped them to say, oh,

502
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Speaker 8: those are small markets. And so maybe I'm jealous in

503
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Speaker 8: a way from the NFL that that's never you know,

504
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Speaker 8: Steelers and Packers. The storyline is, it's unimaginable. It would

505
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Speaker 8: be can you believe two small markets they're meeting in

506
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Speaker 8: the Super Bowl this year it's two storied franchises. And

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Speaker 8: in the NBA, I think because there was so much

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Speaker 8: outside success of certain franchises over the first several decades

509
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Speaker 8: of the league. I mean, the statistic is roughly over

510
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Speaker 8: the first sixty five years of the league, three teams

511
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Speaker 8: won sixty percent of the champion hips. And so it's

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Speaker 8: understandable that Lakers Celtics Bowls still globally have these huge

513
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Speaker 8: followings because it gets almost passed on generationally. And to

514
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Speaker 8: make ourselves more like the NFL, I think we're moving

515
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Speaker 8: in that direction where we have a system now where

516
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Speaker 8: Oklahoma City and the Indianapolis can compete in the same

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Speaker 8: way that larger markets can because of a cap system

518
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Speaker 8: and tax and all that stuff. So it's going to

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Speaker 8: take us a while to get there, but I understand

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Speaker 8: why ratings are part of the story. Now the last

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Speaker 8: part I'll say about social media. I do think something

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Speaker 8: we're thinking a lot more about and getting more sophisticated about,

523
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Speaker 8: is how do you translate social media into a desire

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Speaker 8: to watch live games. I'll give you just one example.

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Speaker 8: I think we may even talked about it last time

526
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Speaker 8: I was on Victor wembin Yama was in New York

527
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Speaker 8: playing on Christmas and then played in Brooklyn a few

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Speaker 8: days later, so he was staying in New York around

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Speaker 8: that time. He's a chess player to Washington Square Park

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Speaker 8: play chess in the rain for forty five minutes. Within

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Speaker 8: five days, one hundred million people had viewed him playing chess.

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Speaker 8: And it was just anecdotally. Anyone I would ask, because

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Speaker 8: it was also on a lot of the morning shows.

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Speaker 8: I said, do you see Victory, Oh yeah, that was

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Speaker 8: the guy from France he played. Now the question is

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Speaker 8: seeing that he also plays chess, and he's by definition

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Speaker 8: you could say, a multi dimensional guy. There's far more

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Speaker 8: to him than ball playing. He speaks multiple languages, even

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Speaker 8: the fact that he's you know, grew up outside of Paris,

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Speaker 8: et cetera. How do we as the league use that

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Speaker 8: to bring people to the set to watch live games,

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Speaker 8: because I would say, looking back, we've gotten distracted at

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Speaker 8: times and forgotten sort of, or I've forgotten that My

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Speaker 8: core responsibility is to get more people to be passionate

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Speaker 8: about NBA basketball and watch our games. That's what sustains

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Speaker 8: our business. I mean, of course ticket sales, but ticket

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Speaker 8: sales are as high as they've been in the history

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Speaker 8: of the league, and there's not a lot more room

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Speaker 8: to grow because our buildings are roughly ninety five percent full.

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Speaker 8: We have a global following, so there's enormous opportunity both

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Speaker 8: through social media, but where the real value comes is

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Speaker 8: from people watching live games. So I think we can

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Speaker 8: do a better job using social media to bring people

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Speaker 8: to the set to say, tonight eight thirty ABC, you know,

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Speaker 8: game three, tune in. And to be more sophisticated about

556
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Speaker 8: understanding is it would people rather see more about Shay Gilgess,

557
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Speaker 8: Alexander's background, growing up in Canada, et cetera. What are

558
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Speaker 8: the things he loves or do they want to see him,

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00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 8: you know, working out what aspects of him are going

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Speaker 8: to cause people to be more likely to be interested

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Speaker 8: in watching the game.

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Speaker 2: Tonight why does the All Star Game have to be competitive?

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Speaker 8: It's an interesting question because again I was just talking

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Speaker 8: about how how jealousyam of aspects of the NFL. The

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Speaker 8: Pro Bowl at this point is flag football, and I

566
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Speaker 8: think that fans that seem to accept that it gets

567
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 8: a good rating, and nobody suggests that that's indicative of

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Speaker 8: a lack of desire or passion by NFL players for

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Speaker 8: whatever reason. In the case in the NBA, when we've

570
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Speaker 8: tried other things and thought, all right, we'll go more

571
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Speaker 8: entertainment route or whatever else, the reaction is, I can't

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Speaker 8: believe your players aren't giving their all for an All

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Speaker 8: Star Game, or at least maybe they don't expect them

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Speaker 8: to play like they would in the playoffs. But they're

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Speaker 8: expecting a competitive game, and so that's fair. Then we

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Speaker 8: have to respond to that, and I haven't been successful, frankly,

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Speaker 8: in the last few years. We tried some new things

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Speaker 8: in San Francisco. I mean, part of it was there

579
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Speaker 8: was a format issue. There was a huge stoppage of

580
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Speaker 8: play in the final. You know, we had this round

581
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Speaker 8: robin where you know, there was a celebration around Turner,

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Speaker 8: which they deserve. But I think the game lost to

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Speaker 8: aut momentum. So something you've talked a lot about historically

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Speaker 8: is this USA World concept. And obviously so I watch

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Speaker 8: what other sports are doing. The NHL had great success

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Speaker 8: with the four nation face off, so we're looking now

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Speaker 8: for next year. We'll be in LA we'll be into

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Speaker 8: a dome where the Olympics are going to take place

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Speaker 8: in twenty eight and we're going to be on NBC

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Speaker 8: back to NBC for the All Star Game, and we're

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Speaker 8: going to be smack in the middle of winter Olympic coverage.

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Speaker 8: So ever a time to move to USA World, it's now.

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Speaker 8: What we're toying with now and working with Andrea Gudala

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Speaker 8: at the Players Association, is what's the right format because

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Speaker 8: I don't I think straight up USA World probably won't

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Speaker 8: work because although the number of international players is growing

597
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Speaker 8: and its roughly thirty percent of our league right now,

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Speaker 8: it wouldn't be fair to pick the All Star seventy

599
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Speaker 8: percent as one team thirty percent of the other. So

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Speaker 8: I think we're again playing off what the NHL did.

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Speaker 8: Maybe there's there's multiple teams, maybe there's more than one

602
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Speaker 8: USA team, but we can achieve that concept, and I

603
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 8: think create a sense of nationalism around it, and again

604
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Speaker 8: feel like we belong sort of on the Sunday where

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Speaker 8: it's otherwise Olympic coverage. So I'm hopeful that we can

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Speaker 8: create something more competitive there.

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Speaker 2: Do you have your wish list of expansion like the

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Speaker 2: cities right now.

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Speaker 8: There's cities we're thinking about.

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Speaker 2: How many cities would you say are on that wish list?

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Speaker 8: Well, let me begin by saying it it's not obvious

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Speaker 8: to me we should expand. I think it's likely over

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Speaker 8: time we will. And the reason I say it's not

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Speaker 8: obvious is because as a global business, you know where

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Speaker 8: something like two billion people will connect with us on

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Speaker 8: social media, over a billion people over the course of

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Speaker 8: the year, we'll watch some portion of the game. Adding

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Speaker 8: another US city, arguably, it's unclear how much growth will

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Speaker 8: get as a result of that. And when you're adding

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Speaker 8: expansion franchises, you're diluting their competition two more Let's say

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Speaker 8: we expand my two teams, two more teams that you

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Speaker 8: know are going to be competing for those same players,

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Speaker 8: and you're diluting your economics the extent we have locked

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Speaker 8: in television money now for the next decade, you have

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Speaker 8: two more partners. Having said that, I do believe certain

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Speaker 8: markets potentially can be additive to the NBA, and that's

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Speaker 8: what we're going to look at. And I think part

628
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 8: of it is geographic. It's a big country, you know,

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Speaker 8: making sure we're represented, you know, all around the country.

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Speaker 8: And then over time, maybe there's more we can do

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Speaker 8: in Canada. And Mexico City is a city we've talked

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Speaker 8: about before. You know, I don't want to say specific

633
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Speaker 8: cities today, just because many have reached out to us

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Speaker 8: to say they're interested and I and our reaction so

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Speaker 8: far has been thank you for your interest. We haven't

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Speaker 8: taken any meetings with any cities. We have a board

637
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Speaker 8: meeting in Las Vegas around the Summer League in July.

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Speaker 8: I know we're going to be talking about it. Then.

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Speaker 8: I had been saying for the last several years, let

640
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Speaker 8: us get through collective bargaining, which we did, let us

641
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Speaker 8: figure out our new media relationships, which we have, and

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Speaker 8: that would be the time to consider it seriously. So

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Speaker 8: that's what we're going to do this summer.

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Speaker 2: But I'm retiring in three years, Commissioner will is what

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Speaker 2: I'm retiring in three years. Will we have expansion in

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Speaker 2: three years.

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Speaker 8: I'm honestly not sure. I okay, I whether if, even

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Speaker 8: if we were to announce, we're engaged in a process.

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Speaker 8: It's not clear to me at what moment they would

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Speaker 8: start playing. But look this, I don't mean to tease

651
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Speaker 8: people with this. This is the summer. We're gonna look

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Speaker 8: at it. Seriously.

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Speaker 2: I thought you'd be a little more emotional about my retirement.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of blue right past that.

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Speaker 8: You're like Michael Jortan, you've retired before.

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Speaker 2: I'm not coming real yet, I'm not coming. I'm not

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Speaker 2: gonna play baseball. Just gonna let you know. I'm not

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Speaker 2: gonna let you. But hey, thanks for joining us. Have

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Speaker 2: fun tonight and thanks again.

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Speaker 8: Yeah thanks Dan.

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Speaker 2: That's Adam Silver, NBA Commissioner.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: App final hour. In this Meet Friday Dan and the

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Speaker 2: Dan Edge Dan Patrick Show Festive Show, we unveiled the gong.

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Speaker 2: Finally got that big German ordered it for me, and

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Speaker 2: it's here to my left just in case something happens

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Speaker 2: to come up that's worthy of a gong our Nation's

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Speaker 2: championship going on the US Open live on NBC USA

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Speaker 2: will go on through the weekend on USA, NBC and Peacock.

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Speaker 2: You can see this show on peacock. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: downloading the app. And the final hour of the program.

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Speaker 2: It is a meet Friday. We have clams casino, we

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Speaker 2: have Friday artichokes, we have vodka, sauce, lasagna, and we

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Speaker 2: have a little pesto as well. Who has it better

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Speaker 2: than we do? No nobody pull question? Final hour the

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Speaker 2: program seat and at least final hour on this Friday.

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Speaker 11: How superstitious are you? Have a hard time saying superstitious, extremely,

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Speaker 11: a little, not at all. Seventy four percent.

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Speaker 2: Are a little.

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Speaker 11: In Friday the thirteenth, I wonder way you be a

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Speaker 11: little and not extremely.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's little things that you're superstitious. Superstitious?

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Speaker 12: Yes, can you be sportsstitious and not superstitious? Like I

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Speaker 12: wouldn't be bothered if I broke a mirror or walked

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Speaker 12: under a ladder, wouldn't bother me at all. But if

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Speaker 12: a team I love is playing well and I'm sitting

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Speaker 12: in a certain seat in my house, I'm staying in

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Speaker 12: that seat. Yeah, and vice versa.

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Speaker 5: Yes, so that's sports.

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Speaker 2: I guess it's superstitious. Yes, yeah, I would think so. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: What else do you have? Seaton? Uh?

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Speaker 11: We also put up there. This one is very much

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Speaker 11: about Todd Fritz. Would you rather be physically fragile or

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Speaker 11: mentally disturbed? It's one or the other. I'm surprised that

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Speaker 11: so many people, I'm not sure why I'm surprised about this,

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Speaker 11: but that so many people are choosing physically fragile rather

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Speaker 11: than mentally disturbed.

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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody wants to be disturbed.

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Speaker 11: It could be mentally disturbed, but that means that you're

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Speaker 11: super fit. How about your crazy ending good shame? Or

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Speaker 11: you can be have all of your mental faculties that

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Speaker 11: are perfectly intact, but you're very fragile.

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Speaker 2: Physically, What about mentally physical or mentally or physically soft?

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Speaker 2: How about if we just did that, it could be

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Speaker 2: mentally soft or physically soft, and what it would people

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Speaker 2: say about that? Any other poll questions for the final

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Speaker 2: hour this week, we can update that if you'd like,

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Speaker 2: we can all right, would you rather be mentally soft

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Speaker 2: or physically soft? Okay, Todd might be both eight seven

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Speaker 2: seven three DP show email address dp at Danpatrick dot com,

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Speaker 2: Twitter handle a tp show Nick and Irvine. Hi Nick,

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Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 10: Hey Dan?

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Speaker 6: I got three comments for you. First of all, back

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Speaker 6: in the eighties, when you could go to a Hollywood

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Speaker 6: park for horse racing and there's thirty thousand, forty thousand people,

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Speaker 6: I was into the ponies, and I was on a

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Speaker 6: bad streak, and I was trying everything. I'll never forget

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Speaker 6: my dad when I told him what was going on,

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Speaker 6: and you know, I was trying to put together numbers

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Speaker 6: and trying to, you know, do all these different things.

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Speaker 6: And he said, and he looked me right now, the

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Speaker 6: most earnest thing he ever said, and he said, Son,

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Speaker 6: don't forget these two pieces of advice. Number one, it

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Speaker 6: is bad luck to be superstitious, and number two, never

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Speaker 6: bet on a horse that eats. And ever since then,

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Speaker 6: I have never lost again at the track. I want

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Speaker 6: to tell you about my trigger grilled. It is true

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Speaker 6: that you can you can adjust the trigger grill with

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Speaker 6: your phone. It's an incredible feature. But Todd, I think

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Speaker 6: you would like this. You can it's a little known fact.

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Speaker 6: You can also call the trigger grill and you can

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Speaker 6: talk to each individual Patty or Chicken wing or whatever.

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Speaker 2: And thank you. You have Thunder Pacers Game four, Okay,

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Speaker 2: see you favor by six. The Oilers came back. They

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Speaker 2: were down three to nothing and then they went five

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Speaker 2: to four and overtime. And this is how the game

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Speaker 2: winner sounded breaking free is.

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Speaker 1: Try shuddle to the deck side.

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Speaker 2: Leyon try suddle Christ time.

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Speaker 1: This series what a fourth hot winner of.

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Speaker 11: The playoffs Final star Edmitten five Florida four and.

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Speaker 13: Over.

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Speaker 2: The man on the call, Jack Michaels, Edmondton Oiler's radio

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Speaker 2: play by playboys, how's the throat today? Jack Dan?

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Speaker 4: I'm okay, you know what I And I don't know

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Speaker 4: whether that triggered you, because nineteen years ago you and

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Speaker 4: Keith were doing Homer Call the Week and you had

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Speaker 4: me on twice in two weeks, Alaskan Vegas and Alaskan Fresno.

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Speaker 4: And I remember you being fascinated with it being the

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Speaker 4: East Coast Hockey, you know, championship series involving Alaska and Fresno.

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Speaker 2: Great to have you back. You had a great seat

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Speaker 2: for this. With your team down three to nothing, what

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Speaker 2: were you thinking?

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Speaker 4: Well, to be honest with you, that's where the Oilers

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Speaker 4: seem to thrive. I don't know what it is, but

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Speaker 4: this club is not content with prosperity. It loves to

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Speaker 4: dig itself a hole. Whether it's early in the season

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Speaker 4: they started zero to three this year, two nine and

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Speaker 4: one last year, or whether it's in early in games.

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Speaker 4: And you just had a feeling that if Edmonton got won,

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Speaker 4: the momentum con turn in a hurry. We've got two

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Speaker 4: great teams, Dan, I would say through four finals, this

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Speaker 4: Stanley Cup Final is shaping up is the best in

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Speaker 4: the history of the sport. And I honestly don't you

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Speaker 4: know that's not an exaggeration. These two teams are clearly

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Speaker 4: the best in the National Hockey League. They found an

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Speaker 4: extra year, and you know Florida is a worthy champion.

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Speaker 4: This is now a best of three with two on

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Speaker 4: Edmonton's tall ice. But I don't think anyone can be

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Speaker 4: called a favorite. Not right now. We've had the two

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Speaker 4: latest game time goals in the history of the final

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Speaker 4: a week apart.

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Speaker 2: Also, when we talked about this last week, how important

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Speaker 2: is the Cup to Canada? We know it's important to Edmonton,

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Speaker 2: is Canada rooting for Edmonton.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think for years. I think for years Edmonton

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Speaker 4: has been kind of everyone's second favorite team.

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Speaker 9: Is you know, passionate fan bases exist in you know,

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Speaker 9: Toronto and you know, so, I don't know whether the

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Speaker 9: Leafs are more of a polarizing figure than some of

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Speaker 9: the other clubs. Edmonton is more you know, I mean Preston, right,

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Speaker 9: if no one really hates you, or except maybe.

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Speaker 4: Those who reside in Calgary. Right, It's a bit of

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Speaker 4: a national team for Patrison in the sense that when

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Speaker 4: you live in Canada, there's no.

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Speaker 9: Middle round with the Tonnamically, Edmondson is a little bit

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Speaker 9: different in the.

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Speaker 4: Sense, well, you know, I can live with Edmonson winning

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Speaker 4: the Cup. I can't live with Lae winning the cuff.

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Speaker 2: When you go to overtime, you know that the game

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Speaker 2: is on somebody's stick there as the play by play voice.

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Speaker 2: How do you approach that knowing that it can end

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Speaker 2: very quickly?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, no divergence, no tangents, no you know thoughts that

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Speaker 4: come to mind. Just button it up and call the game.

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Speaker 4: And you have to do that.

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Speaker 9: Really with Conor McDavid anyway, I as you can probably

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Speaker 9: tell them thrown the gab.

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Speaker 4: I need to button it up all the game because

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Speaker 4: they could end at any moment. And as you saw,

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Speaker 4: I mean Leon Dresser one handed shot that gets a

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Speaker 4: carab off a kneecap and goes five hole on Bbroski.

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Speaker 4: Not your typical you know, ot winner.

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Speaker 9: You just have to be ready and you can't again

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Speaker 9: go off on some random spot from nineteen seventy one.

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Speaker 2: You are a professional at doing this. We just heard

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Speaker 2: your call with the game winning goal in overtime, Seaton O'Connor,

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Speaker 2: who works on my show, We love Leon Dry title.

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Speaker 2: We only bring his name up in June, but you

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Speaker 2: know he's always uh scoring big goals. I want you

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Speaker 2: to grade Seaton's call of Leon Dry Sidle's game winner

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Speaker 2: last night.

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Speaker 4: How you know, I guess what I say is I

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Speaker 4: need a little crowd noise. It's not completely Oh you

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Speaker 4: got a little bit of a phone bowl situation. The

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Speaker 4: good thing is his voice not cracked. I will say that.

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Speaker 4: You know he didn't sound like a guy clicks around

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Speaker 4: a left.

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Speaker 9: So that's the start.

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Speaker 2: And you know you play by play guys in hockey,

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Speaker 2: it's like you're trying to cram words in and then

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden. It just is all kind of

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Speaker 2: jumbled and then it's try Sidda in over time.

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Speaker 4: That's why I went to the overtime call the way

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Speaker 4: I did. I figure that was one word that everyone

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Speaker 4: would understand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Hey, great to talk to you again, and good

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Speaker 2: luck with this next game on Saturday. Thank you, Jack, Dan, I.

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Speaker 4: Really appreciate you having me on, And Keith says below.

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Speaker 2: Jack Michaels Edmondton owner's radio play by play voice, also

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Speaker 2: does TV as well. Fifteen years doing radio. Yeah, we

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Speaker 2: had him on for Homer Call of the Week nineteen

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Speaker 2: years ago and Keith Oberman has stayed in touch with him.

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Speaker 2: That was the all hour two Yeah, in the middle

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Speaker 2: of the Yeah, yeah, a radio show. The Homer Call

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Speaker 2: of the Week was fun. Homer Call the Week was fun.

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Speaker 2: Brought to you by James in New Mexico. Hi James,

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Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 1: Hey Dan?

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Speaker 13: Thanks for taking the call. So I'm part of your

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Speaker 13: younger demographic and an NBA casualist, I guess I would say,

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Speaker 13: And I was curious, so, you know, not knowing too

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Speaker 13: much about the past eras of players who would be

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Speaker 13: the comps to today's game. It could be like play style,

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Speaker 13: but it's hard because there's two different games. But like

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Speaker 13: who they were in the media, Like who is who

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Speaker 13: was Barkley then today? And I guess obviously want to

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Speaker 13: be Jordan Lebron, but like try to educate myself more

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Speaker 13: on who they were to the game and like in

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Speaker 13: the media back then to today's game.

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Speaker 2: Some comps there, Huh. I don't think there aren't comps

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Speaker 2: for those three. I mean Charles was unique. I mean

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Speaker 2: he's more unique now. But as a player, you're just

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Speaker 2: you couldn't believe that somebody who's six' five is going

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Speaker 2: Against shaq and wasn't afraid Of.

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Speaker 8: Shack.

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Speaker 2: Jordan you're watching and you're going, That i've never seen

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Speaker 2: anybody like. That and then Even, lebron somebody that, big

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Speaker 2: who's able to do all of these things because we

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Speaker 2: thought we saw that with. Magic now you're Seeing lebron

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Speaker 2: do that but also be a great scorer and now

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Speaker 2: forty thousand points. Later THAT i think a lot of

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Speaker 2: times we try to do those. Comparisons you, know that

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Speaker 2: guy reminds me of there's so many unique great athletes

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Speaker 2: that there aren't comps every white player who can, shoot you,

870
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 2: know he kind of reminds me Of Larry. Bird, no,

871
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 2: no he doesn't anybody who's six's nine at point. Guard you,

872
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: know he reminds me Of magic just because he's six'.

873
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 2: Nine sga you're hearing the, you know he's Kinda Like.

874
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 2: Michael jordan no. He's, not no he's a, great scorer.

875
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 5: But He's Not.

876
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: Michael jordan it's just.

877
00:45:59,400 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 8: Different.

878
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: Style points jordan gave, You that barkley gave you. That lebron,

879
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 2: you know there's Nobody Like, steph curry, no one and you, can,

880
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 2: say oh you know it kind of reminds Me Of.

881
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 2: Steph Curry caitlin clark might remind You Of. Steph curry

882
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 2: that's the closest COMP that i. Would have but, You Know,

883
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 2: Klay thompson i've never seen somebody so economical at his

884
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 2: peak of not needing a dribble and that famous game

885
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 2: where he had like nine dribbles the. Entire, Game yeah

886
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 2: marvin respect, his handle he had. Eleven dribbles so. Eleven, Dribbles,

887
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 2: okay yeah he's not beating you off. The dribble, you

888
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: Know if i'm, GUARDING him i know he's not going

889
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 2: to beat me off, the dribble but he is if

890
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: you let, him shoot and he's. Making it and that's

891
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 2: another one of those guys when you're watching guys who

892
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 2: were in college and then, you, go wow that guy's

893
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: going to be. A pro he's going to, be great

894
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 2: and then he doesn't, become that and then you see

895
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: somebody else and, you, go, oh man he Went To.

896
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 2: WASHINGTON state i REMEMBER what i Remember Watching washington state

897
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 2: and the only REASON why I Remember klay thompson is

898
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 2: because of, His, father MICHAEL who i know that. WAS

899
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 2: it i Remember Watching gary Payton at OREGON and, i

900
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 2: said that guy's going to be a. Great pro But

901
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 2: Then brent barry is on. That team and if you

902
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 2: would have, said, that dude there's going to win the slam,

903
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 2: Dunk contest i'd, be. Like huh you see these guys

904
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 2: and then you don't. Envision Them steve Nash At SANTA

905
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: clara i WATCHED and i, was like this little guy

906
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:44,720
Speaker 2: with a bad haircut and he. Is entertaining never would

907
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 2: have thought anything other. Than that that's why when you had,

908
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 2: these scouts when, they, go hey we're taking, this guy and, you,

909
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 2: go man who? Saw that or when you have scouts and,

910
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 2: they go we're taking, this guy and, you go what

911
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 2: did you see in? That guy what did you See

912
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 2: in Michael oloa Can Or anthony bennett or some of these,

913
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 2: Other players and, you're, like, Huh, Yes, Martin Yeah klay

914
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 2: thompson his. FIRST team i did not see.

915
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 3: That Coming donovan mitchell was another guy where it was

916
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 3: like the undersize got Out, of louisville.

917
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 8: Then, you, know wow they picked him.

918
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 2: Pretty. HIGH yeah i, did not not saying they weren't

919
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 2: very good, college PLAYERS but i didn't.

920
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 8: EXPECT this i.

921
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: Don't Even Remember Donovan mitchell louisville because it felt like

922
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 2: all of their guards were like six. To one but

923
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 2: they were an. Unbelievable team