1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: All right, Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We are 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: here at the Job Creator's Network Freedom Fighters Summit. We 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: actually I'm here with US representatives Beth Man Dune and 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: Rich McCormick. Rich and I just got off of a 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: panel that was a little bit of a feisty panel together. 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: But we were talking about debt, so it should be feisty, right. 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: I love a good debate. It wasn't even really debate. 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: It was just different opinions on the same thing. We 9 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: all centuly agree with each other, but the variety of opinions. 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,319 Speaker 2: I love how people came from different angles. I love 11 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: the way it was hosted from kind of a devil's 12 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 2: advocate position that it made it fun. 13 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: But you said something that was scary. You said we 14 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: are going to lose the midterms. So I'm giving you 15 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: a chance to say you don't think we are well. 16 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 3: I hope we'd both if we do things. 17 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: I think this game of chicken, the president Trump's pain 18 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: on terrors, I think he's go pay out. I think 19 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 2: it's brilliant. Who has the guts to do that. He's 20 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: a bold president. Yeah, and if he gets seventy nations 21 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: that come to the table was zero zero teriffs, including 22 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: twenty of the biggest economies in the world next ours. 23 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 3: That would be a huge win. 24 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: Now, what happens with China is gonna be a instrumental 25 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: in that, but everybody else already wants zero zero tarots. 26 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: That's a huge win for him, and if it pays off, 27 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,199 Speaker 2: you're right, we can maintain. Statistically, though you lose twenty 28 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 2: seats in a midterm, we lose three, we're in the. 29 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 3: Minor less seats. 30 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 4: That's a lot of seats. 31 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: So China is interesting because China is playing a game 32 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:24,279 Speaker 1: of chicken. 33 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 4: It was an economy that is not great for them 34 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 4: right now. 35 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: They have an aging population, they're not they don't have 36 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: enough workers. They've taken off, they've bitten off more than 37 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: they can chew right now. And I think he sees that. 38 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: But do you think that the American people are missing something? 39 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: And do you think he's missing something? 40 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: I think if we look at China in the way 41 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: they do their federal reserve is different from us. They 42 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: pay themselves, they don't have to rely on people actually 43 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: buying treasury notes because of the way they design they alter 44 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: their currency. They've been cheating their way to the top 45 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: since they joined the World Trade Organization twenty years ago. 46 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: They're made in the China Initiative in twenty fifteen, which 47 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: is tripled their economy, led to exploitation of separate countries, 48 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: but they also have some real advantages of reps. Remember, 49 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: they can produce two hundred times the shipping capacity we cand. 50 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: They have fifty more, fifty times more pers than we do. 51 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: They have something and that gives them the largest navy 52 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: in the world. And I think people don't understand then. 53 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: Having the largest navy in the world puts US at 54 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: a huge disadvantage when it comes to them potentially invading. 55 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: And I talked to a general years ago and I said, 56 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: but they went and do that to us naively because 57 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: we provide them with some We purchased so much from them, 58 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: and we provide we have this trade partnership. It's like 59 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: that doesn't matter when you're dealing with a dictator. So 60 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: I do think that's something we need to stay aware of. 61 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: Having these ports. Having the largest navy in the world 62 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: puts US at a great disadvantage with a country like 63 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: China that is wanting to rule the world and they're. 64 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: Trying to destabilize our currency on purpose. They're using bricks. 65 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: They're also using their devesting divesting from our debt. They 66 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 2: used to have excellent bricks, So bricks is basically an 67 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: alliance of different countries are trying to get out the 68 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: US currency as the standard since Britain woods and seventy. 69 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 3: Two US dollar has been the goal center of curses. 70 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 2: Everybody else based their currency off of our currency gives 71 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 2: us tremendous political and economic advantages, but they want to 72 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 2: make you get rid of the petroval. They want to 73 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: make sure that people are trying to use trade and 74 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: yen or trade in anything but the American currency because 75 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 2: they want. 76 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 3: To supplant us as the world power. 77 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: Remember, they've gone from about five trillion dollar economy about 78 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: ten years ago to a seventeen trillion dollar economy. We've 79 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: grown too, but we're up to about twenty seven trillion. 80 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 2: They're closing on us very rapidly, and of course with 81 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: their innovations, the fact they can streamline their economy because 82 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: only one person makes all the dicisi in really the country, 83 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: they don't have a balanced democracy like we do. With 84 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: competitive powers at play. With the advanced regulation and taxation 85 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: system that we have. We're playing into their hands in 86 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: many ways. So we have to be very very cebrige. 87 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: And we're importing five to one what we export to China, 88 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: and that's a problem as well. I don't think people 89 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: realize how much we actually buy from China. The President 90 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: was talking about made in America. He came to Michigan 91 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: this week. He was saying, made in the USA or 92 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: my three favorite words. Is it possible to get back 93 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: to made in the USA? 94 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 5: Well, that absolutely, but it also depends on what you're 95 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 5: talking about. You know, we're talking about automotive automotives where 96 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 5: a lot of the critical elements may not be here 97 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 5: in our country. Or are we are we talking about 98 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 5: fruits and vegetables that we can grow here? But I mean, 99 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 5: we have a global economy. When we talk about China, 100 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 5: the fact is that China is looking at They own 101 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 5: a lot of our debt. If we go down, they're 102 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 5: going to lose that, and they have such a precarious 103 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 5: economy right now they can't afford to have that happen. 104 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 5: They rely on our markets to purchase their products. If 105 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 5: we go down, that can't happen. So we do have 106 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 5: a yin yang relationship with China. But the fact is 107 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 5: they're playing the long game. We start looking at the 108 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 5: investments that they are making in other countries, the trade 109 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 5: agreements that they have with other countries. They are trying 110 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 5: to own the infrastructure of all of Africa, of Latin America, 111 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 5: and they're getting into the Middle East. As proud as 112 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 5: we are about our economic freedom and our economic independence 113 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 5: on our energy sector and how we were able to 114 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 5: not only be energy independent but also be able to 115 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 5: outsource an export some of our American freedom fuel. The 116 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 5: fact is is that o're imbalanced now with Saudi Arabia. 117 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 5: With Chinese purchasing of their of their energy has put 118 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 5: us at a disadvantage. We don't have as much I think, 119 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 5: influence now in the Middle East, but we do have 120 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 5: an opportunity with trade agreements and making sure that we 121 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 5: are holding the feet to the fire of these countries 122 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 5: that we have strong trade balances with that they're actually complete, 123 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 5: completing you know, the agreements, and we haven't seen that 124 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 5: in the last four years. But I thought, no, Trump, 125 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 5: you do. 126 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: You're from Texas, so you brought up energy. Obviously, we 127 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: think of oil when we think of Texas. 128 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 5: But you think of everything, what do you think of Texas? 129 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 5: What are you talking about? Got the cowboys? You got 130 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 5: the cowboys. 131 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 4: We Michigan's great too. 132 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: All right, We're not going to just highlight textae, although 133 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: I will say that, all right, I will capitulate it 134 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: because Texas has done an interesting job of opening their 135 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: regulation and their regulatory program and systems and the energy. 136 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 5: We think of. 137 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: Oil when we think of Texas, but we also should 138 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: think of renewable energy in Texas because you have wonder 139 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: Own there's fastest in the country. 140 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 5: There and wind and solar area. 141 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 4: So when you. 142 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: Hear people talking about that from being from there, and 143 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've dealt with a lot of people on 144 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: both sides of that energy. 145 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 4: And when I've talked to people in the. 146 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: Oil industry, They're like, we're not afraid of renewable energy. 147 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 4: We want all energy. 148 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: So how do you think the energy conversation needs to 149 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: change for Republicans? 150 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 5: So Texas is the eighth largest economy in the world. 151 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 5: That we are growing, you know, we're one of the 152 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 5: fastest growing states. There's a reason for that, as you mentioned, 153 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 5: you know, I'm cutting down regulations, having a positive business, 154 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 5: environment of freedom for our citizens. Those are all things 155 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 5: that people want to that come to that want no 156 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 5: one of the reason is why they want to move there. 157 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 5: But we also have with that growing population and the 158 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 5: growing businesses have a higher and higher need for energy. 159 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 5: So we are all of the above, and you know, 160 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 5: the governor and I'm very thankful for this is pushing 161 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 5: now for nuclear. We need to be looking at all 162 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 5: of the above sources for energy, and we are seeing 163 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 5: the private sector that is uh, there are some of 164 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 5: the largest users of electricity. Will it come and be partners, 165 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 5: you know, saying that hey we can if we are 166 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 5: a bitcoin minor, for example, we can actually buy some 167 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 5: you know, buy some of the transformers. We can put 168 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 5: more energy on the grid during the day, and we 169 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 5: can use it when it's low need. Those are the 170 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 5: ways that kind of thinking outside you know, that are 171 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 5: our typical our thought process is the way that we 172 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 5: need to look at energy. But also not picking winners 173 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 5: and losers. And I think we have seen that in 174 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 5: the past and it's a it's a mistake I don't 175 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 5: want to repeat. 176 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 4: Well, that's the interesting part. 177 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: You've talked a little bit about mandates and that's obviously 178 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: in Michigan, we have seen the energy mandates crush industry 179 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: because people you are afraid of hearing that you have 180 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: to be one hundred percent renewable by twenty three five. 181 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 4: It's not possible to be one hundred percent renewable. But 182 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 4: that is also base power. 183 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 5: You're never going to get these power exactly. 184 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: So you so businesses are afraid they won't come to 185 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: the state of Michigan anymore. 186 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 4: And that to me is very devastating. 187 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: So when you are talking about on a larger scale 188 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: reducing regulation, what about the fact that you have the 189 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: opposite side of the aisle wanting to push mandates, wanting 190 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: to create laws that prevent business. 191 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: You can see all the states that are doing that 192 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: are failing. They're driving businesses out of their state. Georgia, 193 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: the governor Kemp just talked about georgiea being the number 194 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 2: one state to do business for the last eleven years. No, 195 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what criteria there is about buy because 196 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 2: we're in Georgia right now. We have we're the only 197 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: state in the last twenty years to actually build and 198 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 2: complete a nuclear power plant too them with Vogel and 199 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: the energy can spy is only part of the problem. 200 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: The solution, I should say. And if you look at 201 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: the natural gas that we have in America, the other 202 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: clean energies we have, not just the renewables, but actually 203 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 2: things that don't put out a huge carbon imprint. And 204 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 2: quite frankly, I'm not even concerned about that. If you 205 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: look at the amount of carbonatep the United States puts out, 206 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 2: it's if they're testable when you compare it to the 207 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 2: average sphere and the impact we had. There's tons of 208 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: books written on when you follow the real science, get 209 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: back the economics of business being good stewards of our 210 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: natural resources. But we have got to explore all these 211 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 2: energy sources because quite frankly, when Texas goes too much 212 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: into wind and solar, you can see how that's resulting 213 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: in bad things when the weather gets bad. 214 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 3: That could go for any state. 215 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 2: We have to be careful not to buy into the 216 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: liberal ideology of one source fits all. We have to 217 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: let the industry drive energy, not the regulatory burdens of 218 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 2: the American government. 219 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more of my conversation with Representatives Rich 220 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: McCormick and Beth Van Dyne. 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So is 239 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: how do people feel when they end up with a 240 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: solar field near them or a wind because that's something that. 241 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's where the American people get nervous. 242 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: They're like, are we going to have food? Are we 243 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: going to have food issues? Food insecurity or whatever the 244 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: word is that. 245 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 4: We use, which is just people not having enough food? 246 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 4: Are we going to end up with. 247 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 5: Actually the definition is not having a grocery store within 248 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 5: like two miles. 249 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: Well, I guess I would say I would worry about farms, 250 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: you know, like, well, do we have farms within two miles? 251 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: Then that really is a question are we going to 252 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 1: lose our farm land? The reaction in Michigan has been interesting. 253 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: They want local control of that and that's been taken away. 254 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: What do you how does that work in Texas. 255 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 5: We've got a lot of land in Texas. Not all 256 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 5: of this, you know, necessary going to be farmland, all right, 257 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 5: and we got a lot of ranches in Texas on 258 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 5: but it's one of those things when we talk about food, 259 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 5: that's something everybody consumes, all right, I mean everybody is 260 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 5: a consumer of food, and making sure that we're protecting 261 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 5: our farmers, which means not selling land to places like China, 262 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 5: which you know, Texas been very good about coming out 263 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 5: and saying we're not going to you know, we're not 264 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 5: selling our farm line to China. But also looking at 265 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 5: ways that farmers right now are kind of being harmed 266 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 5: and whether or not that's the state tax. That if 267 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 5: you've got a farm that's been in the family for 268 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 5: a number of years and all of a sudden, you know, 269 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 5: the owner dies, that the family now has to pay 270 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 5: this immensis state tax, they're going to have to sell 271 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 5: the property to be able to do it. So looking 272 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 5: at ways that the government is actually harming that industry 273 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 5: is important. And I'm a big when we talk about energy, 274 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 5: I'm not necessarily looking at the industry picking winners and losers, 275 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 5: but I think the market should and I think it's 276 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 5: the same way when we look at on our tax side. 277 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 5: It's so often or not you see this big thumb 278 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 5: of government coming in and saying we're going to incentivize 279 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 5: this at the cost of this other potential, you know, 280 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 5: research or technology because they just think it's better. The 281 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 5: fact is, let the market decide and get off the 282 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 5: stranglehold of the regulations. 283 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 3: You know something that I sure as you can tell 284 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 3: them and buy the bit. 285 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 2: So when it comes to solar panels, for example, the 286 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 2: biggest solar power producer in the world by far is China. 287 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 2: How much of their energy is produced by solar panels 288 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 2: less than one percent? Guess what in the United States, 289 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: we can buy them from China, we can produce them ourselves. 290 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 2: But guess how much of our energy is produced by 291 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: solar power less than one percent. It's not the answer, folks. 292 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: You can build all the solar panels you want, you could. 293 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 2: You can put it over all the sea beds, but 294 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: guess what. Now you're killing algae, which guess what it does. 295 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: It produces oxygen. It actually is. 296 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 4: We have a lot of research. 297 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 2: The side effects of it. I just don't think you're 298 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 2: going to offset the solar panel. Solar panels are absorbing 299 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 2: energy that would normally be used by by life, to 300 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: produce oxygen, to produce atmosphere, to do the things they's 301 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 2: supposed to do. It messes with the ecosystem. Nuclear power 302 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: is a great source of clean energy. If you want 303 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 2: to focus on that. You can recycle the nuclear waste 304 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 2: and actually we can come out with some much more 305 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: efficient and it's a bridge to the next energy source, 306 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 2: which it may be something out of space. 307 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 3: Being down in the United. 308 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 2: States because of three mile island, which set us back 309 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 2: decades and decades, and of course what happened over in 310 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 2: Russia obviously a bad thing, but quite frankly, in the 311 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 2: big safety and eco impact, it's very safe and we're 312 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: only going to get better at micro If you look 313 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: at the module reactors, that is the future energy consumption 314 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 2: is not going to go down. It's going to parabolically 315 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: these AI supercenters. The fact that every kid walks around 316 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 2: with the computer in their hand, you think the energy 317 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 2: consumption is going to go down. Every kid has a 318 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: set of iPod EarPods, the fact that everybody has so 319 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 2: many electronics, and AI is expanding. This is just the 320 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: beginning of the next generation of energy consumption. 321 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 5: We you talk about like solar energy, I don't necessarily 322 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 5: think now that it's going to If you have it 323 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 5: on a highway, which they're creating these already, you have 324 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 5: on a rooftop, you can create those already. People should 325 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 5: be able to use it. That's fine, especially at the 326 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 5: infrastructure is and there. I mean I was over in 327 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 5: Africa and they're using solar energy. However, the fact is 328 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 5: that Africa is so happy that eighty five percent of 329 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 5: its energy is sustainable. But the fact is is that 330 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 5: when you start thinking about why so many people die 331 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 5: of starvation in Africa, the number one reason, do you 332 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 5: know what it is? Lack of refrigeration. Why do they 333 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 5: have lack of refrigeration because of lack of access to electricity. So, 334 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 5: while they may be promoting that, and by the way, 335 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 5: that's being promoted by China, because a lot of their infrastructure, 336 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 5: especially their energy and infrastructure, is being supported by China, 337 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 5: who's actually benefiting financially from this and from owning the 338 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 5: long term infrastructure of an entire nation on the people 339 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 5: are suffering as a result. So solar has its fits, 340 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 5: and that's fine. If you are a consumer and you 341 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 5: know that is your focus, that is your priority. Fine, 342 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 5: you can have a market that creates it, but have 343 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 5: the market be able to actually support that. It should 344 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 5: not be the government saying we're going to take a 345 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 5: baseline power like coal and we're going to demonize it, 346 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 5: and we're going to be able to prevent that from 347 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 5: exist staying without being so regulated that it actually harms it. 348 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 5: To taking something like solar and wind, which has its place. 349 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 5: And that's fine if they If people want to be 350 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 5: able to purchase it all for it create that in 351 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 5: the market. But when you do it at the expense 352 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 5: of a baseline power load, you're harming people. In some instances, 353 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 5: you're killing people when you can't have you know, heat 354 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 5: and areas that you know get down to double digit 355 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 5: negatives when you can't have cool you know, air conditioning 356 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 5: in Texas when it's one hundred and nine degrees outside, 357 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 5: when you don't have access you know, hospitals and sometimes 358 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 5: or if you are at home and you are on 359 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 5: you know, a machine that helps you breathe, that helps 360 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 5: gives you oxygen. You don't have access to electricity. That 361 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 5: is a problem. And I don't think the government when 362 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 5: it's looking at it's, oh, we're going to support this. 363 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 5: I've often laughed that you don't plug a Tesla into 364 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 5: a tree. You know, all of these things that we 365 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 5: are so proud of ourselves actually needs energy. And instead 366 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 5: of again demonizing that industry, over regulating it, making it 367 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 5: not compact in the rest of the world, we need 368 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 5: to support it. 369 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 6: I mean, you think about just what you said, how 370 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 6: many things you plug in at the end of the night, 371 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 6: and you plug in so many devices right exactly so 372 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 6: you just have that constant stream of energy being used. 373 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 4: But you brought up hospitals, and I think this is there. 374 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 4: What energy is one thing when it comes to hospitals. 375 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: But after COVID, we lost a lot of our rural hospitals. 376 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 4: We lost a lot of support there. 377 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: What is the answer for healthcare for people in rural areas? 378 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 2: Complex question. It's a five trillion dollar industry in America. 379 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 2: Healthcare loan, it's the biggest spending item by far for individuals, 380 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: every individual. It's the biggest spending im in government, second 381 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: biggest spending item of business, probably the biggest expense for 382 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: most families if they buy their own health care program. 383 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 2: And it's the fastest inflationary cost to Americans by itself. 384 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: Our ecosystem of healthcare is a five trillion dollar inustry 385 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 2: that would be the third largest economy in the world 386 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 2: by itself. Incredibly inefficient, but a quarter, actually over a 387 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: quarter now every dollar spent on healthcare goes to administs 388 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: true costs. Ironically, this ties into what your first question was, 389 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 2: the AI consumption. 390 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 3: The money that we. 391 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 2: Spend on on supplying energy to AI can actually solve 392 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 2: our problem. If you just say ten percent of that 393 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 2: five trillion, that's a half a trillion dollars you could 394 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 2: spend somewhere else in the government it selves our debt problem. 395 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 2: It solves our healthcare problem because that money can be 396 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 2: shipped to other places where it can should be used better. 397 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: Because if we're using the AI to help write the 398 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 2: note to actually bill to actually solve the backload of 399 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 2: by the way insurance company which make for the top 400 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: ten companies in America and seven of the top twenty, 401 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 2: which are making massive profits, where our Medicare and medici 402 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 2: are struggling mightily while we have forty percent denial of 403 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 2: an er billing system, where we have preapproval processes that 404 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 2: aren't happening. We as legislator and have to be smarter 405 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: on how we hold those insurance companies accountable now. 406 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 3: And I'm sure that I'm going. 407 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 2: To be demonized by this because we also have to 408 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: face down the biggest lobbyist group in America. They could 409 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: pay a million dollars to every legislator, five hundred and 410 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 2: thirty five legislators and literally spend tens of millions against 411 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: each one of those people who stand up against them 412 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: because they don't want this problem solved because our waste 413 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 2: is their profit. And this is the biggest problem. You 414 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 2: want to know why these world places can't survive because 415 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 2: their payer mix is off because they were so reliant 416 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 2: on Medicaid Medicare instead of insurance. 417 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 3: Companies that pay their share. 418 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 2: Of course, this way, it's incredibly a complex but the 419 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 2: fact that we don't have good competition, we have inefficient hospitals, 420 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 2: we have hostile systems that are employing most of the 421 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 2: doctors or the PBMs. I mean, you're talking about one 422 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 2: of the most complex systems, not just the most expensive, 423 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 2: most complex problems we have in America. 424 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 3: And the average legislator is. 425 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 2: Not a doctor, by the way, and even if you 426 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 2: are a doctor, doesn't mean you understand how this works. Anyways, 427 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 2: I came into Congress thinking I knew everything about healthcare. 428 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: I knew a fraction one I need to know to 429 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 2: solve the problem because it is a complex issue. Ways 430 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 2: and means manages, Medicare, energy and commerce E commerce, Medicaid. 431 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 2: Together they make up twenty six percent of the budget 432 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 2: of a seven trillion dollar ecosystem. 433 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 5: So I want to get on the rural side. I mean, 434 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 5: one of the reasons why you see less healthcare now 435 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 5: on rural side is because you're seeing all of these 436 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 5: small group practices or solar practitioners getting pushed out out 437 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 5: of actual practice. This is a government this is this 438 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 5: is coming from government because we put so much more 439 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 5: regulations now on healthcare providers that they can't stay in business. 440 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 5: They can't afford to actually keep their offices open. So 441 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 5: they are having their basically being forced to sell to 442 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 5: these huge mega corporations that what do they want to do. 443 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 5: They want to bring all of that to a massive 444 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 5: healthcare CYS center in the middle of a huge urban 445 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 5: area because it's cheaper. So if we really actually cared 446 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 5: about those rural areas, we would say, okay, cms, knock 447 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 5: it off. You're not going to sit here and penalize 448 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 5: these small and look and I will. My dad, fifth 449 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 5: generation MD, he was a solo practitioner, but he found 450 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 5: it and he got wrung out of office because you 451 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 5: can't afford to have a regulatory department when you were 452 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 5: one physician practice. And so you think about the cost 453 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 5: you found as a direct result of this is you 454 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 5: have less access, less quality of care, and more expensive 455 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 5: And the way to do it is just to lift 456 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 5: off the regulatory we had. We had a round table 457 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 5: of physicians and we had one woman there. He was 458 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 5: so frustrated she almost started to cry. We had news 459 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 5: cameras there, and she said, I went to medical school. 460 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 5: I learned what I learned, I had, you know, two 461 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 5: hundred fifty thousand dollars of debt when I graduated. I 462 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 5: started my own practice. It was my dream, is what 463 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 5: I always wanted to do. I have a relationship with 464 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 5: my patients. She said. I found I could not stay 465 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 5: in business. I had to sell my practice at a loss. 466 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 5: I am now employed by a hospital system. She goes, 467 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 5: I am no longer practicing medicine. I am following regulations. 468 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 5: She was a monkey could do my job. And they 469 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 5: don't know my patients. And we have people who never 470 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 5: ever study medicine who are making these decisions on people 471 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 5: piecesus lies. That's one of the huge problems that we've got. 472 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 2: And to my point, now, you have used to be 473 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 2: seventeen percent of physicians working for the hospital systems. 474 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 3: Nowa is they were eighty percent. And it's more expensive. 475 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: So, for example, on the pay cut that we do 476 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 2: for doctors every year, I'm Medicaid maker rebursas which we 477 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: just become them another two point eight percent last year. 478 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 3: The hospitals don't get cut. So what happens. 479 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 2: You're forcing them with regulatory burden that they can't afford 480 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 2: because they don't have their own regular order. 481 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 3: I don't I can't employ a. 482 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 2: Single person in a small practice to do the regulatory 483 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 2: burden of keeping up on all the billion and coding 484 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 2: and regulation. 485 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 3: And so by joining the hospital. 486 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 2: Also, in my if I just have an agreement with you, 487 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: my B twelve shot would go up by thousands of percent. 488 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 2: Sometimes it goes from being twelve dollars one hundred and 489 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 2: fifty dollars for a BEAT twelve shot because you made 490 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 2: an agreement with the hospital so you can work in 491 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 2: conjunction with them, so you can buy their medication, help 492 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 2: you with their nurses staffing. You sell your soul to 493 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 2: the hospital system. And hospitals aren't I don't want to 494 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 2: demonize them, but they're more expensive by thirty to forty 495 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 2: percent a lot of times, and so by saving two 496 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: twenty eight percent on position reimbursements, you force them into 497 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 2: a thirty percent more expensive hospital system, to the detriment 498 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 2: of our world comans like representative of Van Dine was 499 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 2: just saying, and you basically ruined medicine because of an 500 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 2: unintended consequence of government and as regulation, taxation, and the 501 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 2: way we approach medicine in general. 502 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: Stick around for more with Representatives Rich McCormick and Beth 503 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: Van Dine. 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After this, took my daughter to 527 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,959 Speaker 1: the physician in town and they're like, oh, you got 528 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 1: to go to the big hospital system in grund Rapids 529 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: and see if she has to have surgery, and then 530 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: you just spend And I'm like, I'm just spending money. 531 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: But I mean, it even happens to me as a 532 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: cancer patient because I go, I'm like, okay, years now, 533 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: I've been going to the doctor every six months to 534 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: the big hospital system just to pay, and they're how 535 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: do you feel I'm like, I fund find when I 536 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: had cancer. How do you know that I don't have cancer? 537 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: Now? 538 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 4: I just go in there and we chat. But I 539 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 4: feel like it's just because. 540 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 5: They don't know you, right, they don't have a relationship 541 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 5: with you anymore. You are one of many because they've 542 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 5: basically become small governments, and then you're having to go 543 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 5: through the bureaucracy to. You know, it's not like you 544 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 5: pick up a phone somebody answers and they're like, oh yeah, tuner, 545 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 5: it's good to Harry. Howard's a family like they don't 546 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 5: know you anymore. And that is like half the couch 547 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 5: sure Is that a status? It's both. It's absolutely both. 548 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 5: When you look at the dollars that the state has 549 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 5: an ability to be able to transfer, they're choosing to 550 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 5: be able to do it to the huge healthcare networks. 551 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 5: During COVID, right, hospitals are getting paid thirty percent more 552 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 5: if they had said it was a COVID case and 553 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 5: we saw all of these hospitals hire all of these people. 554 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 5: Is it is a rocket and the people that suffer 555 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 5: the most are Americans who need health care. An idea 556 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 5: that with with the Affordable Care Acts, which is like 557 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 5: the worst misnomber of a bill I've ever heard, well 558 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 5: except the Inflation Reduction Act that was pretty bad too. 559 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,959 Speaker 5: But with Obamacare, which you saw from that was it 560 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 5: cost a lot more. And while we may have had 561 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 5: health care coverage for people, they didn't get health care, 562 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 5: so there were not you know, they may have been 563 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 5: covered for insurance, but they didn't care. And the fact 564 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 5: was before they even started that initiative. Obama knew that 565 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 5: eighty five percent of all Americans already had some type 566 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,479 Speaker 5: of health insurance. It was the fifteen percent that they 567 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 5: were fighting for. Instead of making a really smart decision 568 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 5: to help that fifteen percent, what they did was they 569 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 5: disrupted the entire industry. They put these massive health insurance 570 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,719 Speaker 5: companies in charge of everyone's health care and as a result, 571 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,959 Speaker 5: decrease access, decrease quality, and increased costs. 572 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 2: And quite frankly, as fitteen, percent without health insurance laws 573 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 2: were young, healthy people who didn't need health insurance, quite frankly, 574 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 2: but they needed them in the system to pay into it, 575 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 2: to pay for everybody else. So it was it was 576 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 2: on purpose, a designed to eventually force us into I'm 577 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 2: convinced that Obamacare was a first step to socialized medicine. 578 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 3: Which is ultimately what they want. 579 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 2: They want medicare for all, knowing that it's not gonna 580 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 2: pay the bill, knowing it'll have an automatic increase. And 581 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 2: and if it doesn't convince you just by that, look 582 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 2: at what insurance does and doesn't cover it. If it 583 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 2: doesn't cover Lasik eye surgery, which it doesn't. The original 584 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 2: for Uni of Lasik eye surgery costs about four thousand 585 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 2: dollars about forty years ago. Forty years from now, we 586 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 2: have a competitive process is less than a thousand dollars 587 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 2: per ide with forty years of inflation, has become better 588 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 2: and less expensive because it's not paid for by insurance. Now, 589 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 2: let's make a comparison to car insurance. If you use 590 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 2: car insurance to pay your oil change, how expensive would 591 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: have been if it was frozen in time twenty dollars 592 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 2: for oil change forty years ago? 593 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 3: How expensive would to be now? You see the difference. 594 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 2: It's if it's fixed pricing, it's gonna have an automatic increase, 595 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 2: just like we do with our mandatory spending every years. 596 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 2: It's gonna increase because it has to, and it's not 597 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,479 Speaker 2: going to save any money. It's not competitive. It ruins 598 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 2: the competitive nature of making medicine better and cheaper, which 599 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 2: is what happens when you don't have insurance companies dictating 600 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 2: the prices put. 601 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 5: On the regular word stuff. For example, I ask the 602 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 5: doctors how long do they how much time do you 603 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 5: actually spend talking to your patients? Come Sean, when you 604 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,479 Speaker 5: go into your room and you know this We all 605 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 5: know this when we go to the doctor's office, right, 606 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 5: usually not even that not even that much talking to 607 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 5: the doctor they set it's between us, like sixty five 608 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 5: and eighty five percent of the time they spend in 609 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 5: front of a computer. Even when they're talking to their patient, 610 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 5: you're talking to the back of his head because he's 611 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 5: asking questions why because he's not on a computer. Why 612 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 5: because he's checking the boxes, He's checking all these boxes. 613 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 5: And you're like, this is this is where our time? 614 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 3: How many of our doctor? 615 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: This is? 616 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 3: This is very personal to me. And what's happened is 617 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 3: the two people. 618 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 2: The two people that suffer the most in this whole 619 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: negotiation of healthcare are ironically the patients and the physician. 620 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 3: Physicians getting aid'irty less. 621 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 4: Oh, the physician's. 622 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 2: Thirty percent last over that last two decades, when it's 623 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 2: Jeffer inflation, patients papay at least. 624 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 3: One hundred percent more. 625 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,719 Speaker 2: So, where's all this money going With this tremendous amount 626 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 2: of money going to healthcare where it's increasing way out 627 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 2: of proportion, It's not going to the physician, it's not 628 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: going to patience. 629 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 3: So who's making the money. 630 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: The fix is in and it's those lobbing companies for 631 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 2: whether it be PBMs, health insurance companies, hostile systems, whoever 632 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 2: it is. Look where the money's going, look at who's 633 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 2: making the profit rather than who's. 634 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 3: Paying the bill, and you'll know what's wrong with mess. 635 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: This is the dirty secret that nobody wants to talk about. 636 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: And I would love I've taken too much of your time. 637 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: I'd love to dig more into it, So I would 638 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: love to have you guys back on the podcast someday. Awesome, 639 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: all right, awesome, Thank you so much, Thank you both 640 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: for being on. Thank you, thank you all for listening 641 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: to the Tutor Dixon podcast. 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