1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: I did feel a burden, you know, since January to 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: make sure that we did everything possible to maximize our 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,079 Speaker 1: chances to have a successful draft this year. That was 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,159 Speaker 1: a very tough decision, and in fact, you know, a 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: decision that we really never made until basically when we're 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: on the clock and it was a done deal and 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: we look and we say, okay, guys, we're making a move. 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: We're going back in and we're gonna draft Lamar Jackson. 9 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge for a special double edition. We're 10 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: going back to back with Daniel Jeremiah and now we 11 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: got the heavy hitter, even bigger, better draft analysis from 12 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: the man himself, Assistant GM soon to be GM, Eric. 13 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: And when you're flush, your flush right now the guests 14 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: are rolling in. It was dry before the draft, but 15 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: now that everybody's done, they're kicking up, kicking their feet up. 16 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: Relax a little bit. We're getting the big exactly. Uh. 17 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: The episode with Danie Jeremiah was really good. Um, I 18 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: hope you guys enjoyed that one, and I think you 19 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: really enjoyed this conversation that we're gonna have with Eric 20 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: to Coston before we uh pepper Eric with questions. We 21 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: do want to hear from you at you guys, we 22 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: have your questions and it always you guys can email 23 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: us at the Lounge at Ravens on NFL dot net. 24 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: You got an email over there, make I do This 25 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: one comes in from Kevin a Vila and he says, Hey, guys, 26 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: huge fan, fan of the lounge and really appreciate the 27 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: inside I get since I'm not a local fan. My 28 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: question is, could you see Joe staying for possibly two 29 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: years more instead of just the one that everybody thinks. 30 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: I think if he lights it up this year, which 31 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: I think he definitely can, finally being healthy and with 32 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: same help, I just don't want to get rid of 33 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: a quarterback who just had a great year. What do 34 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: you guys think saying great year meaning that he's going 35 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: to have a great year this year. I think that 36 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: if Joe Flacca goes out and has a great year, 37 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: that there's not a guarantee that he leaves. I think 38 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: that all depends on how Joe plays. That's really what 39 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: it comes down to. If he goes out play as 40 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: a great year as the m v P the league 41 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: this year, I think he's gonna be back exactly. The 42 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: Ravens are gonna have Lamar Jackson under contract, most likely 43 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: for five years. Right, So let's say even if you 44 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 1: spent two years of that is red shirt years, you 45 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: still have three very solid years potentially with now very 46 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: well groomed quarterback taking over. And I mean, look at 47 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah, hey, that looks like a pretty good 48 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: pick right now, early in the second round, and he 49 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: only had a few games with the Like, if you 50 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: can get a franchise quarterback at any time, whatever you 51 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 1: get on that rookie contract is great, and of course 52 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: it's a beneficial because it's cheaper, But if you can 53 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: get a franchise quarterback, you take them regardless of the situation. 54 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: And there are examples of guys that have waited to 55 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: start and then before Aaron Rodgers is the example that 56 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: was multiple years. He didn't start for three years, three years, 57 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: he just sat on the bench. Um Garoppolo sat on 58 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: the bench for three and a half years exactly, and 59 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: now he's the highest paid player in the league. So 60 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: I'll add this one other thing. If the Ravens did 61 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: hold onto Flacco, if if they were to release Flacca 62 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: or trade him after this year will be sixteen million 63 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: dollars dead cap. If they held on to him one 64 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: additional years two more seasons, only eight million, So that's 65 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: a lot better on the books as well if they 66 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: were to keep jove Like for two years. Alright, So, 67 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: without any further ado, let's get into the draft recap 68 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,839 Speaker 1: and that's welcome in our assistant GM Eric to Costa, Eric, 69 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna serve with this. You know, I feel like 70 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: I've seen you guys really excited after drafts before, but 71 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: I don't know that I've ever seen you as happy 72 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: and excited after this draft as I have previously. Would 73 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: you agree with that? Was this coming out of it 74 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: immediately the happiest that you feel like you've been well, 75 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: you know, I think you always feel good about most 76 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: drafts at the end, you know, partly just because you 77 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: you anguished so much beforehand that there's a major relief afterwards. 78 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: But I think with this draft, what makes this draft 79 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: special is that I think everybody really contributed, coaches and scouts. 80 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: You know, most of the scouts got a player from 81 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: their area at least one time, and then most of 82 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: the coaches got a player in the draft that is 83 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: at their position that they'll have a chance to work with. 84 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: And so when you get that kind of ownership between 85 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: scouts and coaches, it's a great feeling. You feel like, 86 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: you know, the coaches are gonna do everything possible to 87 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: make these guys a success. And you get great buying 88 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: from everybody, you know, uh, in terms of the process, 89 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: you know, satisfaction and just that all kind of just 90 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: adds up to a real happy, you know, jubilant kind 91 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: of feeling. Now, what's the emotion now now that you're 92 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks removed from the draft, what's it 93 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: like for you? Is it a relief or what's the 94 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: what's the feeling? I think sluggishness. You know, I've been 95 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: sort of tired this week, you know, because the week before, 96 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: the two weeks before the draft, you're not sleeping too 97 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: much and you just kind of on autopilot and you 98 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: just you don't need a lot of sleep. You know, 99 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: you don't need to eat. You're just going, going, going, going. 100 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: You're thinking about things all the time. You're waking up 101 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: early in the morning, you're working, waking up in the 102 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: middle of the night, you're staying up, You're on the 103 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: phone a lot, you're talking, you know, pretty much on 104 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: my way to work and on my way home at night, 105 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 1: you know, on the phone talking to people, you know, 106 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what's going on in front of us, 107 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: behind us, and then all the additional work that you 108 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: have to do, watch and tape and various things. And 109 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: now like you know, there's a void. You know, you 110 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: come in and I'm excited to see these guys arrived 111 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: today pretty much, and see these guys this weekend. But 112 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: it's like, in terms of workload, it's drastically less than 113 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: it was a week ago. Right. So, we had Kevin 114 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: Burn on the podcast last week and he talked about 115 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: how he felt like going into this draft, you know 116 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: that we made so such a big deal about it 117 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: being out He's last draft and all that, but he 118 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: felt like, for you guys, you and Joe and the 119 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: entire personnel group, that you guys really wanted to nail 120 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: it for Ozzie. It wasn't so much that like Ozzie 121 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: wanted to go out with the bank, but you guys 122 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: sort of wanted to send him out the right way, 123 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: did you guys? Was that a real sense going into it? Well, 124 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: I mean for me, I can't speak for the scouts, 125 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: but you know, for me, and it's not something we 126 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: talked about, you know, leading up to the draft. It 127 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: was not thing that we discussed, I think at the 128 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: beginning of the third day as a scouting staff without aussy. 129 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: But I think for me, I did feel a burden, 130 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: you know, since January to make sure that we did 131 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: everything possible to maximize our chances to have a successful 132 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: draft this year. And you know what that means is 133 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: making sure that we've covered all of our bases. We've 134 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: done all the work we need to do. We've discussed things, 135 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: we've thought about things. We've been smart, we've been critical, 136 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: we've been strategic, you know, in terms of including everybody, 137 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: but also making tough decisions on players and just not 138 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: wanting to make any mistakes because this you know, this 139 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: was it's not Ausi's last draft. But let's let's put that, 140 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: you know the rest. But the dynamic is changing, it 141 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: will change next year. And and I just felt an obligation, 142 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: you know, because of my relationship with Oz, and you know, 143 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: just I felt a personal obligation to make sure that 144 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: we did the best we could this year. We've all 145 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: obviously seen the video of the final call when he 146 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: makes that, and the ovation that he got, the hugs 147 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: that went around the room. You know, I think for 148 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: us watching it, it was kind of an emotional moment. 149 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: And for you guys when you came down from that moment, 150 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: there was clearly a lot of emotion. Did that hit 151 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: you more than you expected or did you did it 152 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: go the way that you thought it would. For me, 153 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of emotional aspects to the last 154 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: you know, four or five months. Um. You know, I've 155 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: been with Ozzie for twenty two years, and you know, 156 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: I was a young guy started out in the NFL 157 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: with him, and he basically took me aside and taught 158 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: me how to scout and what to look for and 159 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: how to act and how to handle situations, and you know, 160 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: the guidance and the council that he's given me over 161 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: the years. And let's face Ozzie and I are totally different. 162 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: We grew up differently, We come from different parts of 163 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: the country, different athletes, different mindsets, we look totally different. 164 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, he just took me in and 165 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: I was his first higher I think in terms of 166 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: scouting staff. Um, so it's been emotional, and when you 167 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: think about that moment, you know, I call the scouts 168 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: in that morning in my office and we had a 169 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: meeting to talk about the players that we would be targeting, 170 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: and I basically just said, guys, listen, I I think 171 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: today is gonna be kind of an emotional day for 172 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: a lot of different reasons. But you know, this is 173 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: a day that we want to celebrate Ozzie and we 174 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: want to knock this thing out of the park today. 175 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: So I need your help. I need your guidance. I 176 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: need everything you guys have because I'm not sure I 177 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: can do it alone. And you know, this day we 178 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: want to celebrate Ozzie, but we can't just celebrate Ozzy. 179 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: We gotta kick ass. And so it was emotional, you know. 180 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: Um the guys came in, the scouts and coaches came 181 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: in when Azzi was on the clock and he's on 182 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: the phone and I don't even know that Ozzie knows 183 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: those guys coming in. And when he passed the phone 184 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: over and he looked up and he smiled, and I 185 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 1: just think the significance of the moment just kind of 186 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: hit everybody, and it was special, you know, I mean, 187 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: we had several special moments that and you know when Dion, 188 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: you know, basically said I love your odds, I love you, 189 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: that was a special moment. You know. Um, those things 190 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: all just kind of conspired to make it a special 191 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: weekend for all of us. And in this business, you know, 192 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: you have moments. It could be your first draft, it 193 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: could be you know, a super Bowl, a special win, 194 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: a playoff game, a moment, whatever it is that are 195 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: special that you never forget. And this weekend will go 196 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: down as one of those weekends and probably one of 197 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: the best weekends that I can remember in terms of 198 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: providing a collective memory for a bunch of people to 199 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: celebrate Ozzy and what he's meant to this organization. What 200 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: was running through your head when Steve switched the seats? 201 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: You know, how emotional was that for you? You know, 202 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: it was emotional. I mean, it was definitely, um, you know, 203 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: something that that I've thought about a lot, you know, um, 204 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: over the last ten years or so, you know, and 205 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: I've got huge shoes to fill and I know that, 206 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: and that just kind of in my mind was just 207 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: an example of really what will happen. But I'm fortunate 208 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: because I know that Aussy is going to continue to 209 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: provide me with assistance and guidance and counsel. And we've 210 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: got a great staff. We've got rate scouts guys. I 211 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: think they're the best in the league. And we've also 212 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: been able to build tremendous chemistry with the coaching staff, 213 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: My relationship with the coaches and John. All of that's 214 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: gonna play together to keep this thing as strong as 215 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: it's been. And Ozzie and I are different, will never 216 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: you know, operate exactly the same, but we both believe 217 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: strongly in our process and what we've built over time. 218 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: You know, um and it's AUSI, it's feel Savage, it's 219 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: Brian Billy, it's coach Marcha Broda, it's all the talented 220 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: personnel people that have come through here over the years, 221 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: you know, guys like Joe Douglas, Jeremiah Washburn, Daniel Jeremiah, 222 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: all these different people that have been here. We've been 223 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: able to build a collective history and a tradition and 224 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: in a process that we believe in and that's not 225 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: going to change. Will make changes, but the idea that 226 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: we're going to draft the same way and we're gonna 227 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: build a consensus, and we're gonna draft best available player, 228 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: and we're gonna do all these different things, and we're 229 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 1: to include everybody's opinions. That's never going to change and 230 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: that's a legacy that Ausy really built and we're going 231 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: to continue to do that. See you kind of joke 232 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: that you're actually going to stay in your seat because 233 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: it's the best seat in the draft. Well it is. 234 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: You're not going to take the I don't have to 235 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: turn around. He always has to turn around. I just 236 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: kind of look over there, um, and I think I 237 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: have a better view of the whole room. So actually, 238 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: you know that we are getting a new draft room 239 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: this year, and so our draft room that we were 240 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: in this year was actually a temporary draft room. As 241 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: you guys know, we'll be moving back to the old 242 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: draft room. But it's gonna actually be twice as big. Um, 243 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,599 Speaker 1: you know, very technically technically oriented with TVs and computers 244 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: and touch screens and all these different things. So I'll 245 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: have to kind of get a layer of the land 246 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: to try and figure out where I should sit. Do 247 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: that me and the camera might come in for the 248 00:12:53,720 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: first time, probably not. We were wondering, I like transparency, 249 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: but I don't like that much transparency. We don't see 250 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: what we can do, but you know, it's probably unlikely 251 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: they we'll ever have cameras in there all the time. 252 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: So obviously there's the emotional piece of this weekend, but 253 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: then there's also the football piece where you guys went 254 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: out and had a really good draft twill picks. So 255 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: what did you What stands out to you when you 256 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: look at this class. Well, I think we tried to 257 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: address the offense. First. We got some playmakers at different positions. 258 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: I think we got two of the best tight ends 259 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 1: in the draft. Two guys that can go up and 260 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: catch the ball very well, can stretch the field, you know, 261 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: I think both guys understand the passing game, can get 262 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: open and make critical plays on first, second, and third downs. 263 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: And I think quarterback wise, you know, Lamar is a 264 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: game changer as an athlete. He's a guy with a 265 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: unique skill set, one of the most gifted athletes I've 266 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: seen on tape in a long long time. And you know, 267 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: we felt like if we were going to draft a quarterback, 268 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 1: this was the year that we might want to do it. 269 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: And he was still there, and we tried to find 270 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: a way to get him. Fortunately, we're able to do that, 271 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: partly do our relationship with the Eagles and some of 272 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: the people that work there. It made sense for us. 273 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: And I look at Lamar as a guy with a 274 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: lot of potential. I think he's highly motivated, he's very coachable, UM, 275 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: and he's gifted. So we'll see how that pans out. 276 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: You know, I think Joe certainly, there's no bigger believer 277 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: in Joe Flacco than me, So I believe in Joe. 278 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: I know Joe can lead this team into the playoffs 279 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: this year. I expect that we will get to the 280 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: playoffs with Joe as our quarterback this year. And I 281 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: look at Lamar is a good long term investment, who 282 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: has ability and who can help us win football games. UM. 283 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: Orlando Brown, right tackle, left tackle. One of the probably 284 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: most fun I've had this year is watching him on tape. 285 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: You know, physical, aggressive, UM. You know, people talk about 286 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: his combine numbers, but I watched the tape and I 287 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: saw a guy that was a shutdown tackle on tape, 288 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: very physical, aggressive, plays like a raven good, great mentality, 289 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: and I think we'll get every ounce of what Orlando 290 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: Brown has to give. Um, so I'm excited about him. 291 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: As we got into the mid rounds, we were trying 292 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: to address you know, we hadn't drafted any defensive players, 293 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: so he was getting a little unsettled. He was getting 294 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: he was getting a little bit unsettled. UM. So you know, 295 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: I thought that we should, you know, try and do that. 296 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: So we drafted Anthony Everett from Alabama, a corner. You know, 297 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: some of our corners got beat up last year, and 298 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: we look at corners like pitchers in baseball, and you 299 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: have to have as many of those guys as possible 300 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: cause they do break down. So he was really good 301 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: value for us right there. UM, trying to address a 302 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: couple of other needs. And then as we get into 303 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: the fifth, six, seventh round, you know, we took a 304 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: couple of whiteouts that we like. Julil Scott, big playmaker, 305 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: physical possession guy. Uh. Lastly is a very talented player, 306 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: uh who we think has a lot of potential to 307 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: develop in our system. Uh. Um, you know, very productive 308 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: over the last six or seven games last year. U 309 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: c l A. We took some offensive lineman you know, 310 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: um late that we think have a chance to develop 311 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: and be good depth guys. Bozeman so not. You know, 312 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: we like those guys. Um. So basically we tried to 313 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: address as many different issues as we had in the roster. 314 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: We think we're able to do that, probably with the 315 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: exception of the running back position, which weren't able to 316 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: find a guy. We had a couple of guys we 317 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: liked in the draft and they got selected before we 318 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: could make a pick. Right, Let's let's go through it 319 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: a little bit. And I just want to get the 320 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: thought process. I mean, when you guys are on the 321 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: clock at sixteen, it kind of played out, you know, 322 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: like you always say, well, the Ravens will have some 323 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: stud defensive player fall in their laps, right, and when 324 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: I'm watching, I'm like, all right, throwing James, it's coming 325 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: down the board. Here comes Tremaine Edmunds. You know how 326 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: difficult was it to move away from a stud like 327 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: a Derwin James. It was difficult. I mean, no, I think, 328 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: and uh, have we stayed there, he would have been 329 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: the pick. And what we tried to do is way 330 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: the value of the trade looking at from the standpoint 331 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: of multiple players versus Derwyn James. You know, in January 332 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: one down in Jupiter, we talked about the importance of 333 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: adding some playmakers to our offense, and you know, obvious, 334 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: I thought Dernwyn James was one of the best players 335 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: in the draft, but the chance to trade back in 336 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,479 Speaker 1: this draft, which we look at this draft is similar 337 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: to the draft from two years ago, and we had 338 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: all the fifth round picks, the fourth round picks, and 339 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: the value of this draft was really the third fourth round, 340 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: fifth round, So for us to go back and get 341 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: additional picks made a lot of sense. As hard as 342 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: it was moving away from Derwyn James, we felt like 343 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: it was the right thing to do for this club. 344 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: I kind of felt like when you guys moved back 345 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: first time the second time that things just kind of 346 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: kept following your way. You know, like I'm looking at it, 347 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: and and you know, when we look at all the 348 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: mock drafts, are probably looking at lot of the same 349 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: players are saying like, Okay, both receivers are still there, 350 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: the tight end is still there, um, Lamar Jackson is 351 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: still there, and then that most of those guys are 352 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: still there. When you go back to five, with the 353 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: exception of DJ Moore, did you basically kind of have 354 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: all those guys right in that group and you're saying, 355 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: let's just move back on one of them is going 356 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,719 Speaker 1: to be there. It was a hard knowing Okay, then 357 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: obviously DJ was gone by the time you get to 358 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 1: twenty five, but hard knowing that or the picture is 359 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: gonna take a Lamar Jackson right or whatever one of 360 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: those guys was a hard trading back thinking like, okay, 361 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: we might lose a chance to get say DJ more. 362 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: Or was the benefit of knowing that all these guys 363 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: are kind of the same grade on our board? Yeah, 364 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: I think that's that's really it. You know, you look 365 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: at it, Garrett, and you see you've got maybe four 366 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: or five players all graded very similarly in the board, 367 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: and if you can go back four or five spots, 368 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 1: you're sure to get one of those guys. And you 369 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: have to weigh that versus, Okay, do you take the 370 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: guy that's slightly higher in your sequence, I mean slightly 371 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: higher versus you know, go back and get an additional pick. 372 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 1: And the thing about scouting is that you know, if 373 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: you look at it from a statistical perspective, there's really 374 00:18:55,600 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: no certainty that the pick is going to end up 375 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: being better than pick pick. In fact, if you listen 376 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: to people that study these kind of things, um, and 377 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: there's been papers actually written on its by professors. If 378 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: you've got a bunch of players at the same grade level, 379 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: you're you're way better off trading back a little bit 380 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: and getting one of those guys then taking the highest 381 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: rated guy in that clump of players. So now it's 382 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: different if you've got one guy graded at a higher 383 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: level on the board versus four or five guys at 384 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: a lower level on the board. But you've got away 385 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: the value of the additional picks, which end up basically 386 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: being lottery tickets, And so how do those lottery tickets 387 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: kind of factor in? If you if you get three 388 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: additional picks and one of those guys ends up being 389 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: a significant player, then you're ahead of the game. That's 390 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: why we really believe in the whole concept of compics, 391 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: because if you get a comp pick and you draft 392 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: a Rickey, Wagner or paranomic fee, then you're way better 393 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: off than not having those picks at all. So for us, 394 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: any additional picks provides value. Now, if you've got a 395 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: chance to get a guy like, you know, ro Quan Smith, 396 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: well you probably should take him right at some point 397 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: you just take because he's better. But if they're close, 398 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: then you try back and capital right. Can you share 399 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: a little insight on the Hayden Hurst Verst Calvin Ridley 400 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: debate that you probably well you probably didn't actually have 401 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: the debate while you're on the clock, but you know 402 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: a lot of fans are talking about wide receivers and 403 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: she more Comradley go on either side of you more 404 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: right ahead, DJ or Ridley right behind? Was that a 405 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: difficult decision between Hayden and Ridley? Were they really close 406 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: and you just said tight ends the bigger need let's 407 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: address that or what? Well? I think, you know tough. 408 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: That was a very tough decision, and in fact, you know, 409 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: a decision that we really never made until basically when 410 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: we're on the clock or right around that time. And 411 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's hard to make those kinds 412 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: of decisions when you have two players that are very close. 413 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: You know the fact that we had added whiteouts in 414 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: free agency factors in. You know, I also think that 415 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: if you're just looking at predicting success, first round tight 416 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: ends historically have done much better than first round whiteouts, 417 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: which is much more volatile volatile position in the draft, 418 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 1: so you think about those kind of things. But in 419 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: the end, I think for us, we thought we thought 420 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: Calvin was a great prospect, but we met with Hayden, 421 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: you know, recently, and his maturity, his skill set, the 422 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: comparisons to players like Todd Heap, his ability to make 423 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: plays in the middle of the field, we felt was 424 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: really important. And as we thought about Joe Flacco, it 425 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: was easy for us to envision Joe throwing the ball 426 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: to Hayden Hurst and Hayden making plays in our offense. 427 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: So it's just over time. Even though it was a 428 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: very tough decision, agonizing decision, Hayden made the most sense 429 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: for us. Can you talk a little bit about Hayden's 430 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: baseball background. Was that something that you guys viewed as 431 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: a plus because he's just a little bit mature, more 432 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,239 Speaker 1: mature person. You know, people talk about his age, but 433 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: I feel like it could be a benefit. Well, I 434 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,959 Speaker 1: think maturity is a benefit in the NFL, you know, 435 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: we saw that with Dennis Pitta, who was an older 436 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: player coming in. UM Hayden's one of the Interestingly enough, 437 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: Hayden one of the only guys I can remember in 438 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: the last however, many years, who came here without his family. 439 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: If you think about that, you know, we came here 440 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: on Friday for the press conference without any family members, 441 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: And partly that is probably because he's older, he's already 442 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: been drafted, he's already played professional baseball, you know. Uh 443 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: so this is just another step of the process for him, 444 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: not as significant as say Lamar Jackson or Marlon Humphrey 445 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: the year before, or all these guys that typically will 446 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: come in here and this is probably the highlight of 447 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 1: their lives in terms of you know, playing sports, and 448 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: they bring their whole family or family members with them. 449 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: So I think maturity is a factor. And I think 450 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: with with Hayden, you're getting a guy that is ready 451 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 1: to contribute day one. You know, smart, he's durable. He 452 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: I think he's a competitive guy. And I don't believe 453 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 1: he's going to be flustered or you know, overwhelmed by 454 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: the NFL. You're a baseball guy, what did you think 455 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: of like, he got the yips basically, which that I 456 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: mean to overcome mentally, is that's something you know, what 457 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: did you think about that as a baseball guy. Well, 458 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:43,239 Speaker 1: I think that you know, there's a book that come 459 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: out a couple of years ago. I think Ricky Ankiel 460 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: wrote it. You know, um call Phenomenon, and I think 461 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: that's the name of the book. And I read. I 462 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: didn't mean the whole book. I read parts of the book, 463 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: and it's pretty amazing story. And I think with any 464 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: of our players, if if they overcome adversity before they've 465 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: come here, to me, that's a real positive quality because 466 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: the NFL is not easy, you know what. We ask 467 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: these guys to do. The physical, you know, strain on 468 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: their body, the mental strain, being away from their families, 469 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: to travel, everything that goes with it is a challenge. 470 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: And so if you get a guy, if you get 471 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: a player who's overcome a personal tragedy, if he's overcome 472 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,719 Speaker 1: something like the hips, if he's overcome an injury, if 473 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: he's overcome something in his family and illness and disease 474 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: and injury, whatever it is, that's a real strength and 475 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: we look at that as a real positive in their 476 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: character and that becomes a part of their evaluation in 477 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: the end, that personal makeup and who they are. I 478 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: just I just feel like that's something that's very, very important. 479 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 1: So let's get to the most exciting part of the draft, 480 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: which was that period after you take Hayden up until 481 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: thirty two, and we think the draft, the first round 482 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: is over. I definitely thought the first round literally left stadium, 483 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: I mean, is walking out. I may have had a 484 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: run back in as we traded back in. I thought 485 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: maybe things were done. I got my workout in that 486 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: day in a full suit, um dress shoes, getting myself 487 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 1: back into the stadium, I heard a lot of I 488 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: heard we were downstairs, and I heard a lot of 489 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: running upstairs in the hallways too, So you might not 490 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: have been the only one. I think that most people 491 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: probably thought I was. I felt like it was done 492 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: and there was no indication from our end there then 493 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: there was any possibility of trading back up. I thought 494 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: the press conference was about to happen. I was. I 495 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: was really mad because Hayden Hurst wasn't in Dallas, so 496 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: we went to Dallas and we're waiting for the opportunity 497 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: to interview the guy and he's on there. So I 498 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: was mad at you guys. So what was it? Did 499 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: you guys have a sense all along that you could 500 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: trade back up or was it after you made the 501 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 1: hearse pick and then Lamar is still on the board. 502 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: You're like, all right, Like, is that when the phone 503 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: calls started or had they already begune? Like, was that 504 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: plan that you could trade back in if he was 505 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: there at the end of the first round? Was that 506 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: already in the works? Well? I think you Obviously we 507 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: had talked a lot about Lamar leading up to the draft, 508 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: and you know, you kind of when you think about 509 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: any player, one of the discussions is, Okay, where will 510 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: we take this guy? How does he fit in the sequence? 511 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: Would you take him at sixteen, would you take him 512 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: at twenty, would you take forty? Whatever it is? How 513 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: does he fit is your first round? Was your second 514 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: round er? You trade up to getting me a trade 515 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: back to get him? And we had a lot of 516 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: discussions about him, and he was a player that there 517 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: were some people in this building who were just tremendously 518 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: excited about him. So we thought about, you know, okay, 519 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: do we take who do we take at sixteen? And 520 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: we had a bunch of players, and then we say, okay, 521 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: well we're not going to take these guys at sixteen, 522 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: but we would take them if we trade back. So 523 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: we had a bunch of guys kind of rated together, 524 00:26:53,640 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: and we made a decision to take Hayden well. At 525 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: some point towards the end of the first round, maybe 526 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 1: as we got closer to the end, Kevin came in, 527 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: Kevin Burne and said, you guys want to go down 528 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: and talk about Hayden. And I looked over at Ozzie 529 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: and said, well, let's just why don't you and I 530 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: talked about a couple of things first, and I said, 531 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: you know, we may not be done, let's continue talking. 532 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: And so we said to Kevin, listen, we're not gonna 533 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: go down until the end of the first round. So 534 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: Kevin left, and then Ozzie and I started talking and 535 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: I said, listen, what do you think, you know, should 536 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: we try to trade back in? And Ozzie looked at 537 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: me and he goes, yeah, we can. So we looked 538 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: at the teams at the end, you know, picking and 539 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: obviously we're Philly there at the end. They didn't have 540 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: a lot of picks this year. Um, and so we 541 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: have a relationship with how We. We have a relationship 542 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: with Joe d And and Andy Waddle and different people there. 543 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: Ian Cunningham. So Azzie called how We and we started 544 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: talking about the framework of a possible trade, and we 545 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: talked about because we had already added a bunch of picks. 546 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: So even though I knew we would have to pay 547 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: a price to do it, I felt like the price 548 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: we had we had basically recouped price all the picks 549 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: that we had gotten, whether or not they were you know, 550 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: picks this year, picks next year. Plus we really think 551 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: we're going to get an additional compic or maybe two 552 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: compics next year as well. So how he came back, 553 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: you know, Ozzie, and how we go back and forth 554 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: a little bit, and we then developed the framework you know, 555 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: of a possible trade. Now, we didn't really discussed that 556 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: with anybody else. It was just me and Ozzy. Well, 557 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: and it was just basically me and Ozzie had sort 558 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: of done this and not really you know, I told anybody, 559 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: because we weren't sure he could have gotten picked, you know, 560 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: so we just waited it out a few more picks, 561 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: and then once he felt once Lamar was there, Eagles 562 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: called us. We called them, We talk and it was 563 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: a done deal. And we look and we say, okay, guys, 564 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: been making a move. We're going back in and we're 565 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: gonna draft Lamar Jackson. So Ozzy was on the phone 566 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: with the league. I called Lamar. Uh. He was very, 567 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: very relieved and happy, and uh I kept him on 568 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: the phone for a few minutes as ozz He's trying 569 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: to finalize the deal, because you have to We've we've 570 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: been burning that by this in the past. Both teams 571 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: have to call the league. You've got to explain the 572 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: trade from your perspective, which picture, getting which picture, giving 573 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: up any additional conditions. So it's not an official trade 574 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: until the league says, okay, it's an official trade. So 575 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: I got Lamar on the phone and Ozzie's talking to 576 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: the league, and then finally Joey Cleary, who is on 577 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: the phone's force, says we're on the clock. And then 578 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: I gave the phone to Ozzy and Ozzie said, Lamar, 579 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: you're a raven. And it was awesome. I mean, it 580 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: was a really powerful thing, you know. And I know 581 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: that there were people out there that say, well, why 582 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: didn't they just draft if they like Lamar so much, 583 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: why that's take Lamar right and then you could take 584 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: a tight end in the second round or whatever. Yeah, 585 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: And my my response is like, well, that makes sense, 586 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: except that we look at players not just grouped together. 587 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: We look at players based on the grades on our board. 588 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: And so for us, the idea that we might get 589 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: two players at X point on our board is giving 590 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: up a pick is better than taking one of those 591 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: players and then taking a much lesser player in the 592 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: second round. So for us, it made a lot of 593 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: sense to do that because we feel like we got 594 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: to kind of unique guys with the skill set to 595 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: help us and really make plays and be dynamics. So 596 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: that's kind of how it worked out for us. We 597 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: were ecstatic by the scouts. Were just never seen the 598 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: scouts so excited because this was a player that was 599 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: definitely a scout favorite, and um, you know, Lamar just 600 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: brings a lot of the dynamic qualities that we're excited 601 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: to see. So you know, as I said, you know, 602 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: I I still I strongly believe in Joe. Heck, you know, 603 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: Joe is probably the best pick, one of the best 604 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: picks I've ever felt like we made as an organization. 605 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: And uh, I've got no doubts in Joe's abilities. And 606 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: with Lamar, I think that we've drafted guy that is 607 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: a great athlete a great kid, just unbelievable college player 608 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: with the skill set to provide us with tremendous insurance 609 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: and and and someday be a really really good player 610 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: in this league. I'm curious with Lamar did was the 611 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: fact that he was such a different kind of quarterback 612 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: then obviously from Joe, but then we're really there's ever 613 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 1: been here. He's he has the wheels, he has, he 614 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: has a huge here. He's just a differences that a 615 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: dynamic player. He's a different type of guy at that position. 616 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: I mean, Nick, he had more rush yards in Sequon 617 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: Barkley in college. Were you looking for that type of 618 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: player or did it just kind of work out that 619 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: you were thinking quarterback at some point and he had 620 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: those skills? Like what kind of led the move in 621 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: that direction? Well, I think, you know a couple of things. 622 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: But first, I think our experiences that we had with 623 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor. You know, Tyot was a great athlete too, 624 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: and we saw Tyro really develop and emerge to being 625 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: a starting quarterback in this league and playing pretty well. 626 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: So you know, and we've seen other quarterbacks you know, 627 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: ten or fifteen years ago, you know, these kind of players. 628 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: There was Michael Vick and there was everybody else. But 629 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: there's really been a proliferation of these types of quarterbacks 630 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: over the last you know, five or ten years, and 631 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: the game has changed, offenses have changed, the way that 632 00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: offenses attack you has changed. So um as we talk 633 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: about these players, we always talk about it from the standpoint, Okay, 634 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: what can they do? What are their qualities that they 635 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: have to make them successful? Why do they succeed? And 636 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: doesn't translate? Well, it translate to our level. And we 637 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: were fortunate they have Marty morning Wig and James Urban, 638 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: two guys that have had experience with Michael Vick, uh 639 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, other types of players like this. Not to 640 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: say that any Dalton's similar to Lamar Jackson, but the offenses, 641 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: there are some things that they do, you know. Uh 642 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: So it made it, you know, it allowed us to 643 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: have these kinds of discussions about Lamar and how does 644 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: it translate and what would we do? What we look like? 645 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: You know, in the end, I think you have to 646 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: have players on your team that have some free qualities 647 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: to them. And we've always been a team, you know, 648 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: going back to guys like Hellodi Nada, Jonathan Ogden in 649 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: Kwan Bolden, Jamal Lewis, you know Chris McAllister, um Joe Flacco, 650 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: his size and his ability to throw the football. You've 651 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: got to have players on your team that have unusual 652 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: qualities about them, and I think Lamar Jackson has some 653 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: very unusual qualities about him that make him different from 654 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: most players in the league. What was your first impression 655 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: when you saw Lamar Jackson on TV or in person? Well, 656 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: the first time we saw him player, the first time 657 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: I have a saw on play. It was just one 658 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: of those wild moments. You know, you feel like you're 659 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: watching a special athlete, watching a guy that transcends college 660 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: football with what he can do, his dynamic qualities to 661 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: make plays as a passer, as a runner, you know, 662 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 1: taking Louisville and making them a really, really strong football program. 663 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: As we spent more time with them, I think, you know, 664 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: things that stand out with him. Competitiveness, humility, drive, all 665 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,240 Speaker 1: those factors that we believe in and players. Lamar possesses 666 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: all this qualities. So he's just a guy that, you know, 667 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: we thought was a great combination of intangibles but also 668 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: physical ability. So let's move down the board a little bit. Um, 669 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: what was the scene like when you guys made the 670 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: Orlando Brown pick, obviously you know you know his dad. 671 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: There's that whole story. Edwin Maltal is the one who 672 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: reads off the pick, like, what are you guys thinking 673 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: when you make that pick. Well, when we watched Orlando 674 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: back in the fall, we thought he was a first 675 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: round type of player. Um, and we've had players over 676 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,240 Speaker 1: the years fall to us because of workouts. It's real sucks. 677 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: There's a great example of that, you know, So it 678 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: does happen. You know, I remember a Kwam Bolden ran 679 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: a slow forty and fell in the draft of the 680 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: third round. So there are players that play awesome football 681 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, they slipped because of the combine, and 682 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: we understand that, just like we understand the reverse. There 683 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,760 Speaker 1: are players that aren't very good players up the combine 684 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: and get drafted higher than they probably should be drafted. 685 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: So we look at that as an opportunity, and Orlando 686 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: was a player all along we felt like, listen in 687 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: the right spot, this guy makes a lot of sense 688 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: to us as a right tackle. Come in and compete 689 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 1: right away to start his physical, nasty, big aggressive mindset. 690 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: He loves the Ravens you know. Uh, And it's a 691 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: great story, and so we began to just evaluate and 692 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: look at it, and we thought that there was a 693 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: possibility that he might be there for us in the 694 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: third round. Obviously, we've known him since he was a 695 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: young kid. He would come by the facility, you know, 696 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: when he was twelve thirteen years old. It feels like 697 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:46,959 Speaker 1: he was just as big back then his years big yeah, probably, yeah. 698 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 1: And I knew his dad really well, and I liked 699 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 1: his dad so much. And his dad was one of 700 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: the meanest players, but he had a heart as big 701 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: as his facility. And you know, his dad would come 702 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: up to me and he lift me up over his head, 703 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: you know, So it was just an Ozzie of course. 704 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: You know, I grew up with Zeus basically from a 705 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: young player to a player that became a starting enforcer 706 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: at tackle in this league. So it was a great story. 707 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: But I think the bigger story is that we got 708 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: a really good player that we think can come in 709 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: and compete long term and be a start of force. 710 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: And he's got the right mindset. He's the type of 711 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 1: player that I think our fans are gonna love to 712 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: watch because he's physical, he's mean, he's nasty, and you know, 713 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: this is another guy whose overcome adversity. He overcame the 714 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: death of his father. You know, he dealt with weight 715 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: issues at a younger age. Um, so this is a 716 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 1: kid I think that has the right mindset and I 717 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 1: think he'll help us. If I had told you in 718 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 1: February that you were going to get Hayden Hurst, Lamar Jackson, 719 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: and Orlando Brown, what would you have said? We would 720 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 1: have signed up for it? You know, just um would 721 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: you would you have thought that's possible? You know, if 722 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: so many things change. So I don't really like to 723 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: look too far into the future. But I think the 724 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:17,320 Speaker 1: biggest thing is that with Orlando, with Lamar, with Hayden, 725 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: we had great buying from our coaches and scouts. Everybody 726 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: really saw the same things, and we had a good, 727 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 1: strong consensus on those guys is what they bring to 728 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: the table, how they're going to help us in the 729 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: short term. And we felt like we were getting three 730 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: very established college players with no guesswork. Both guys have 731 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 1: played a lot of football, both all three guys were established, 732 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 1: All three guys are mature, All three guys have the 733 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: right mindset, there's no off the field stuff with those guys. 734 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: They're just good, strong, competitive, tough football players. And we 735 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 1: love that about all those guys. Go fast forward a 736 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: little bit to the wide receivers at the backpack picks 737 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: Julil Scott and Dreamed. LASTLYE, do you view both of 738 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: those guys as kind of high ceiling players, you know 739 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,919 Speaker 1: that they could turn into something. You know, you didn't 740 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: draft one of the first three rounds like a lot 741 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: of people were expecting, but you got two guys that 742 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: have high ceilings. We um, you know, as as I 743 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: said at one point, we just feel like we've got 744 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: to swing more at the plate when it comes to 745 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: the white out position. And you know, certainly there were 746 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: some players that we could have taken earlier. There were 747 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: a couple of guys that we wanted to take that 748 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: got taken and um, but we knew that eventually, just 749 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: the way the boy was stacked, we were going to 750 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: have some players in the fourth round, fifth round that 751 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: we liked a lot. And in fact, there were probably 752 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: five or six wadeouts we could have taken in the 753 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: fourth round that we would have been excited to get. 754 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: In the end with Scott, you know, this was a 755 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: player that John really liked, and Ozzie watched him, and 756 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: I watched him, and we all we all saw the 757 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 1: same quality. Who saw a big guy who for his size, 758 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: controls his body very well. He's got quickness. Now he's 759 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: not gonna run like a fourth, you know, a five 760 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: ft six receiver. You know, this guy is a six 761 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 1: ft four receivers. So it's not gonna look exactly the same. 762 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,760 Speaker 1: But what we saw was a guy that had quickness, 763 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 1: enough speed, he controls his body very well. But what 764 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: he's got his ridiculous ball skills. The ability to make 765 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, acrobatic catches when you're six ft four and 766 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: you can control your body and contort your body and 767 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: adjust and make these highlight catches consistently. That that's a 768 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: special quality. And so we think that translates very well 769 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 1: to this league. And with lastly, we saw a guy 770 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: that was a big play guy, the guy that was 771 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:39,280 Speaker 1: a vertical presence, the guy that could run routes. You know, um, 772 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 1: not necessarily as polished at times as you'd like to see, 773 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: but played his best football over the last six or 774 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,439 Speaker 1: seven games and really, you know, tormented the Pac ten. 775 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 1: You know, and I think this is a guy that 776 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 1: comes in here with a clean slate. He's got really 777 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: really good skills, and if he dedicates himself and pushes 778 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: himself to be the best, he's got it in his body. 779 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: This is a guy that can be become a good 780 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: player for us. Right. Sometimes I feel like he might 781 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: be a guy where it's also like a change of 782 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: scenery might be beneficial for him. You know, he grew 783 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 1: up in Compton, went to U C. L A. Now 784 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 1: he comes to the East Coast and it's like all right, 785 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 1: fresh start, Like you said, kind of clean slate. Yeah, 786 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: So I'm curious you said during the pre dry pressure 787 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: that you felt you could nail the top fifteen picks, 788 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,280 Speaker 1: you know, not necessarily in order, but the top fifteen guys. 789 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 1: How close for you on that? Because there were some 790 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: surprises this year. Um, I think I nailed it, you know, 791 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 1: I mean I really you know, I'm just trying to think, 792 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 1: is there one player that got picked? So, you know, 793 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 1: as we went through it, we we felt like all 794 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: four quarterbacks would be picked. You know, we felt like 795 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: the two linebackers Edmunds and I broke Kwan would probably 796 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: be picked. The two safeties Joe and James and uh 797 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 1: In Manka and then the corner uh Or Nelson, and 798 00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 1: then Davenport went he was there, um and then the 799 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 1: two and then and then McGlinchey. McGlinchey, you know, I 800 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,879 Speaker 1: think he was a riser in the process. I think 801 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: we kind of felt like I kind of felt like, 802 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,800 Speaker 1: you know, three or four days before the draft that 803 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: he was going. I think initially maybe when I made 804 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: that statement, he was a guy that we weren't we 805 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: we weren't sure that he was gonna go. Um there. Yeah. 806 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 1: The one the one guy that went that I think 807 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 1: was you know, probably on the fringe, was was Colton Miller, 808 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: who I thought was just a great talent, and I 809 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,280 Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a great pick by the Raiders. 810 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: But he was probably the one player that if you 811 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 1: had asked me, okay, named the top you know, the 812 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 1: first sixteen picks to go, He's probably the one guy, 813 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: um that I might have left off, even though I 814 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 1: thought Colton Miller was a great player, and it was 815 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 1: a guy that we would have taken that sixteen or 816 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 1: twenty or twenty five. Just this upside the mentality of 817 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 1: the kid, you know, I thought that was a really 818 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 1: good pick. Did you have Baker to the Browns at 819 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 1: number one? Um? The quarterback thing is, you know, basically 820 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: beauties in the eye that beholder. Everybody probably has a 821 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 1: different order. I will say this, I think the brown 822 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: has got a heck of a player, I really do, 823 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 1: which scares me, but he's a He's a heck of 824 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 1: a player. What do you think of the rest of 825 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 1: the SC North draft? You know, the AFC North. I 826 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,840 Speaker 1: think we draft as well as on anyone. You know, 827 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 1: I'm I hate to say it. I wish it were different, 828 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: but you know, I think that. Um, you know, the 829 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: Steelers are always very very consistent, you know, and they 830 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,399 Speaker 1: got one of my favorite players in the draft this year. 831 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say that they did. They got one 832 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: of my favorite players. And then the Bengals just you know, 833 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: ever since Marvin has been there, they've been, in my opinion, 834 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: one of the very best drafting teams, which is so 835 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 1: frustrating to me, but it's just it is what it is. 836 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,320 Speaker 1: Those guys, Duke Tobin, Marvin Lewis, they do an amazing 837 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: job and I admire what they're able to do. And 838 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: then you know, John Dorsey this year coming in, they 839 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 1: just think they knock it out of the park. They 840 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,399 Speaker 1: drafted extremely well. They took really good players, and uh, 841 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 1: I think your draft was strong and John does an 842 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 1: awesome job. So you know, we've got our work cut 843 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 1: out for us. It's just in my mind, just makes 844 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,399 Speaker 1: it even more urgent for us to do a good 845 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 1: job every single year. Yeah. I always feel like the Steelers, 846 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,880 Speaker 1: it's always like every year it's like they got another receiver, 847 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: and then the Bengals like they got another running back. 848 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 1: Every single year it's like second or third round receiver 849 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 1: for the Steelers, book it running back for the Bengals. 850 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. Do you have a favorite pick of ours? Oh? Man, 851 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 1: you know, I think they're all favorites, but um, you know, 852 00:44:55,000 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 1: it's it's it's hard to say, you know, I like, um, 853 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: you know, I think Orlando is it was a good 854 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: pick for us and excited about him. I think Mark 855 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 1: is a good pick for us. Underrated football player. If 856 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 1: you watch Oklahoma's offense, this is a guy that really 857 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 1: helps make that offense go. His ability to uncover and 858 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 1: get open and make tough catches. You know, um, Hayden's 859 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 1: just just just rock solid. You know, what he did 860 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 1: this year in the way that he does it underrated, 861 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 1: I think across the league, you know, just in terms 862 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 1: of his skill set. Um, I'll tell you, Um, you know, 863 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: we've never drafted a player from Faires State before and 864 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 1: that's one of my favorite picks, just because I hadn't 865 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 1: really watched much of that guy. You know, Um, that 866 00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:01,319 Speaker 1: was a guy that truthfully, our coaches and Scott's kind 867 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 1: of found him. And you know, that was a guy 868 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:08,799 Speaker 1: that Drew Wilkins, who is one of our coaches, he 869 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:15,399 Speaker 1: really liked him on tape. And uh, that's just kind 870 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 1: of fun. You know when people have that much you know, uh, 871 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 1: they're excited to be a part of the process that 872 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,240 Speaker 1: they're doing additional work and they're trying to find players, 873 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 1: and so you know, if Siler ends up being a 874 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 1: good player, then I think it would be a heck 875 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: of a story. And just I love those, you know, 876 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 1: I love the players that kind of fly out of 877 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,399 Speaker 1: the radar a little bit that end up being really good. 878 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 1: And that's kind of what's made the Baltimore Ravens who 879 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 1: we are I think at times. So I'm really excited 880 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:45,760 Speaker 1: to see what Bosman can do. You know, I'm excited 881 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,720 Speaker 1: to see what those guys can do. The unheralded guys 882 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 1: that kind of flying out of the radar. You know, 883 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 1: who's going to be the next you know, Ricky Wagner, 884 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 1: Ryan Jensen, who's going to be the next Arthur Jones? 885 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,880 Speaker 1: You know, Uh, Parnell McPhee. You know. Those kind of 886 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,839 Speaker 1: players are the guys that make us. Yeah, those are 887 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,880 Speaker 1: the kind of guys historically that I've made the Baltimore 888 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 1: Ravens who we are. And so I'm excited to see 889 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 1: what all those guys can do this year. Yeah. Last 890 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,840 Speaker 1: We'll let you out here on this one. But you know, 891 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: John said it was maybe the best draft. He said 892 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 1: it was the best draft since he's been here, maybe 893 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,359 Speaker 1: the best ever. That's a tall order with the Hall 894 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,439 Speaker 1: of famers in the first uh, and then Ozzie said 895 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 1: he was really really happy about it. We didn't get 896 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 1: the baseball analogy from you. You didn't get your overall assessment. 897 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 1: And you've you've been known to give a baseball analogy. 898 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 1: What do you got for us this year? Uh? You know, 899 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 1: I think you gotta swing. It's three and oh three 900 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: and o count. You know you're gonna get a good pitch. 901 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 1: You gotta swing. You can't expect to walk every time. 902 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: You gotta take your chances. You gotta swing, You gotta 903 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 1: make something happen. You gotta try knock it out of 904 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 1: the park. And you know, I don't know that we've 905 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 1: been conservative over the last you know, however many years. 906 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 1: But this year, for whatever reason, we felt like, listen, 907 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna go after it. We're gonna make it happen. 908 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna swing. You know, uh, let's take our chances. 909 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 1: And I feel like we're able to do that. Three 910 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 1: and old count. We got nice pitched down the middle 911 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 1: of the plate and we hit it out of the 912 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 1: park nice like Ericsson. Thank you very much, appreciate it. 913 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 1: Thanks guys, cool, really good stuff from Eric I mean 914 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,399 Speaker 1: good insight there during James would have been the pick 915 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 1: of sixteen. A lot of good little nuggets there. But 916 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 1: before we go, because that that was a long one. 917 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,200 Speaker 1: I know people's commutes is probably ending right there right. 918 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,879 Speaker 1: This this might be a home this is to work 919 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 1: at home yet double it up. But before you tease 920 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,280 Speaker 1: this and you gotta get to it really quickly, now, Okay, 921 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 1: what happened when the Ravens traded back up from the 922 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,719 Speaker 1: mar Jackson. What was the scene for you in Dallas? Well, 923 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: they traded back three Well let me just say this, Okay, 924 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 1: So in Dallas, I thought they did an awesome job 925 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 1: for the draft. It was just an incredible atmosphere and 926 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 1: there and we had a group of fans that were 927 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 1: on the field, Um, down there by the stage and 928 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,719 Speaker 1: so yeah, exactly. So I went down there around pick 929 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,840 Speaker 1: eleven because we have sixteen. I want to be in position. 930 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 1: So I was down there with that group of fans 931 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 1: and I was going to intercept our pick as walked 932 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 1: off stage. Um, we trade back twice and then we 933 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,719 Speaker 1: end up taking Hayton Hurst. I basically just all the 934 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,799 Speaker 1: air goes out of the room for me because he 935 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 1: wasn't there. And like I just told Eric selfishly, I 936 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: wanted Hayden Hurst or whoever we picked to be there 937 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 1: because you get to the interview, there's all this behind 938 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 1: the scenes stuff, you get to meet him. Basically, if 939 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 1: he's not there, the trip is it's not totally but 940 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 1: a lot of it's wasting, Like you know, a lot 941 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 1: of build up and then it's a letdown. Um. And 942 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 1: so anyway, you take him, and we're just mad. We're mad, 943 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,439 Speaker 1: so I hiked my butt back upstairs the forehearted level 944 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,879 Speaker 1: and then we say basically, it's at pick point nine, 945 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 1: right after the Chasier thing. We're like all right, And 946 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 1: and in our conversations here with people, people were saying, hey, 947 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 1: the press is gonna be starting soon. Uh, Eric is 948 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,239 Speaker 1: gonna be coming down soon. As we're like, all right, 949 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,319 Speaker 1: pressor is about to happen, So we packed up, packed up. 950 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 1: I don't know that we said the press was love 951 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,319 Speaker 1: to happen there. I don't know about that. We're gonna 952 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,239 Speaker 1: gonna have to go back to the file because we 953 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:53,799 Speaker 1: pulled it up. We pulled it up and it says 954 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 1: Eric's down here. Press are starting soon. So we're like, 955 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,720 Speaker 1: all right, press is about to start. So we got 956 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,800 Speaker 1: you know, fake news from that. Wasn't that you guys 957 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,440 Speaker 1: not helping us out at all? Um? And so we 958 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 1: basically walk out of the stadium, hop on the shuttle, 959 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 1: um angrily and uh it's at pick thirty one, and 960 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 1: we're just kind of looking at our phones and updating 961 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 1: it and and then shuttle takes off and all of 962 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,840 Speaker 1: a sudden we see the Ravens have traded bag in 963 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,360 Speaker 1: to the thirty second pick and we're like, stop the bus. 964 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:26,800 Speaker 1: Stop the bus. I haven't heard this story. Stop the bus. 965 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,359 Speaker 1: So we make this shuttle driver stop the bus. We 966 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 1: rub me and the two other people we were with. 967 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,279 Speaker 1: We barrel out of the shuttle. We start running back 968 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 1: into the stadium mile away. But you're fat behind hasn't 969 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,720 Speaker 1: probably run a mile in a decade, so so we 970 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: we take off running, take off running. We get in 971 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 1: there basically the entire stadiums pouring out. I got a 972 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 1: weasel through. Everybody stake through our camera are our broadcast guys. 973 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 1: They've got four pounces of equipment. So we finally get there. 974 00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 1: They go. They run up to the four level because 975 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,720 Speaker 1: that's where we had to meet him for the interview. 976 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 1: I run down to the field and I end up 977 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 1: catching him down on the field. Um, And so the 978 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 1: funny thing is like we really didn't get in that 979 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 1: much later after, Like it's like everything ended up being 980 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 1: the same. But that was a most hectic you know, 981 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 1: I run about four minute miles. I was gonna say, man, 982 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 1: good thing, there's ten minutes between the face a twenty 983 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 1: minute mile exactly. Oh, by the way, I might in 984 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 1: full suit, I was basically I took that suit straight 985 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 1: to the dry cleaner. When I got back here in 986 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,359 Speaker 1: to Baltimore, there was no same to take a straight 987 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 1: to the dry cleaner. That's pretty good story. Yeah. Here 988 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,320 Speaker 1: here in the sling, we heard just everybody. It was 989 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,320 Speaker 1: like a stampede of people running, and from what we 990 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,960 Speaker 1: understand later and talking to people, it was coaches and 991 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 1: stuff like coaches weren't in the draft room and then 992 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,799 Speaker 1: they saw we traded back in and they are running 993 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 1: back to the draft room to see what's gonna happen. 994 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,320 Speaker 1: So pretty pretty cool moment all the way around. Yeah, well, anyway, 995 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,480 Speaker 1: thank you for listening everybody. As always, you can reach 996 00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 1: us at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. 997 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 1: And Gare is going to be out of the mix 998 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,520 Speaker 1: here for two weeks. Mr Vaca over here. Good things. 999 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 1: You know you did all that running, you earned it. 1000 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 1: You earned a little time off exactly one mile sprint. 1001 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 1: So anyway, have fun vacation and we'll be back at 1002 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 1: you when Garrett gets back into town in two weeks. 1003 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:14,680 Speaker 1: All right, Thanks guys,