1 00:00:06,413 --> 00:00:08,933 Speaker 1: NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is 2 00:00:08,933 --> 00:00:20,133 Speaker 1: a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast. All right, 3 00:00:20,172 --> 00:00:26,093 Speaker 1: it's another episode of NFL Cover zero. We are week seven. 4 00:00:26,293 --> 00:00:30,933 Speaker 1: Matt Jones and Drew Franklin had some technical difficulties at 5 00:00:30,973 --> 00:00:35,933 Speaker 1: the NFL studios Lexington Branch, so we all went back 6 00:00:35,973 --> 00:00:39,533 Speaker 1: home and you're getting to see us in our houses. 7 00:00:40,573 --> 00:00:43,533 Speaker 1: My sound isn't as good because I don't have the 8 00:00:43,573 --> 00:00:46,733 Speaker 1: modern technology of these other guys, but nevertheless, we're ready 9 00:00:46,773 --> 00:00:51,573 Speaker 1: to go. Drew, I wouldn't say the most exciting week 10 00:00:51,573 --> 00:00:54,213 Speaker 1: of football ever, but maybe a little bit more exciting 11 00:00:54,253 --> 00:00:59,173 Speaker 1: than the last week. Did you enjoy today's action? Yeah? 12 00:00:59,173 --> 00:01:00,813 Speaker 2: I mean any day I get to watch the NFL, 13 00:01:00,853 --> 00:01:02,693 Speaker 2: I enjoyed it. Had a nice day on the couch 14 00:01:02,773 --> 00:01:06,413 Speaker 2: where I literally just watched about every snap that I could, 15 00:01:06,533 --> 00:01:08,572 Speaker 2: dabbled in red zone. But then I watched all of 16 00:01:08,613 --> 00:01:11,413 Speaker 2: my Tennessee Titans. I couldn't miss that one. So a 17 00:01:11,413 --> 00:01:14,572 Speaker 2: big day for me. Of Ben at Bennett kind of dislike. 18 00:01:14,292 --> 00:01:16,612 Speaker 1: This for you. For me, the problem with red zone 19 00:01:17,173 --> 00:01:20,732 Speaker 1: is I hit there's a red zone nap that occurs 20 00:01:20,813 --> 00:01:25,253 Speaker 1: that I simply cannot stop. Five point fifteen pm Eastern. 21 00:01:25,452 --> 00:01:28,812 Speaker 1: I'm going to fall asleep. Generally speaking, it's going to 22 00:01:28,853 --> 00:01:31,173 Speaker 1: be with the Cardinals are going to be on my screen. 23 00:01:31,212 --> 00:01:33,493 Speaker 1: That's going to be my last memory, which means there's 24 00:01:33,533 --> 00:01:36,693 Speaker 1: going to be visions of Kyler Murray or today Jacoby 25 00:01:36,732 --> 00:01:39,853 Speaker 1: Brissette dancing in my head as I fall asleep. But 26 00:01:40,053 --> 00:01:44,532 Speaker 1: the five fifteen Sunday Red Zone nap is undefeated for me. 27 00:01:44,613 --> 00:01:48,013 Speaker 1: I usually wake up halftime of the second game, but 28 00:01:48,053 --> 00:01:51,013 Speaker 1: I have not seen the second quarter of a four 29 00:01:51,013 --> 00:01:54,053 Speaker 1: o'clock game yet this year in the NFL. 30 00:01:54,733 --> 00:01:57,053 Speaker 2: Are you able to doze off though when it's kind 31 00:01:57,053 --> 00:01:59,013 Speaker 2: of picking up the pace a little bit? Or is 32 00:01:59,013 --> 00:02:00,733 Speaker 2: it just the second quarter of this slend. 33 00:02:01,653 --> 00:02:04,573 Speaker 1: I'm locked in for the one o'clock games through the 34 00:02:04,613 --> 00:02:08,692 Speaker 1: Witching Hour, and I'm locked in for the beginning of 35 00:02:08,733 --> 00:02:10,653 Speaker 1: the of the four o'clock games. But when we get 36 00:02:10,653 --> 00:02:13,453 Speaker 1: in the second quarter, the Chargers are going to be 37 00:02:13,493 --> 00:02:16,213 Speaker 1: playing on one of the screens. They said the Cardinals 38 00:02:16,253 --> 00:02:18,013 Speaker 1: are going to be playing on one of them. I 39 00:02:18,053 --> 00:02:20,613 Speaker 1: know that's gonna happen, and I'm gonna drift a sleep 40 00:02:20,693 --> 00:02:24,093 Speaker 1: and then I'll wake up. It'll be halftime. Hanson is 41 00:02:24,133 --> 00:02:26,573 Speaker 1: gonna be telling me how you know, well, you should 42 00:02:26,573 --> 00:02:28,813 Speaker 1: have seen what happened in the Panthers game earlier today 43 00:02:28,893 --> 00:02:30,773 Speaker 1: and like and then I kind of get back ready 44 00:02:30,773 --> 00:02:31,213 Speaker 1: for the end. 45 00:02:31,773 --> 00:02:33,252 Speaker 2: It is a good time take a little break before 46 00:02:33,253 --> 00:02:34,973 Speaker 2: we get to the night game. I made a nice 47 00:02:35,053 --> 00:02:38,493 Speaker 2: soup during the second quarter today. Yeah, I could still 48 00:02:38,493 --> 00:02:42,133 Speaker 2: see the game headed on in the background. What kind 49 00:02:42,133 --> 00:02:45,493 Speaker 2: of soup did we make? It's an Italian minnestroni soup. 50 00:02:45,613 --> 00:02:47,853 Speaker 2: I saw the rest of the on TikTok. I'm very excited. 51 00:02:47,813 --> 00:02:50,613 Speaker 2: I haven't eaten it yet. It was for like for lunches, 52 00:02:50,693 --> 00:02:51,813 Speaker 2: so I'm looking forward to it. 53 00:02:52,133 --> 00:02:55,373 Speaker 1: So did you when you say make a soup, did 54 00:02:55,453 --> 00:02:56,813 Speaker 1: you mix everything together? 55 00:02:57,013 --> 00:02:57,293 Speaker 2: Did you? 56 00:02:57,933 --> 00:02:58,133 Speaker 1: Yes? 57 00:02:58,573 --> 00:03:01,173 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I made three different meals today while 58 00:03:01,253 --> 00:03:03,973 Speaker 2: watching football. I couldn't do all couch. The back starts 59 00:03:04,013 --> 00:03:05,653 Speaker 2: to hurt if I don't get up, move around just 60 00:03:05,693 --> 00:03:06,133 Speaker 2: a little bit. 61 00:03:06,453 --> 00:03:08,413 Speaker 1: For people who don't listen to our Kentucky show. I 62 00:03:08,573 --> 00:03:10,453 Speaker 1: made a goal this year of learning how to cook. 63 00:03:12,253 --> 00:03:16,173 Speaker 1: Not been successful. I think that's fair to say, really 64 00:03:16,853 --> 00:03:19,693 Speaker 1: not successful at all. I think I might might actually 65 00:03:19,693 --> 00:03:24,252 Speaker 1: know less about cooking now than I did nine months ago. 66 00:03:24,293 --> 00:03:26,613 Speaker 1: So that's gonna now be a twenty twenty six resolution. 67 00:03:26,693 --> 00:03:29,613 Speaker 1: We're just gonna fast forward it to another year and 68 00:03:30,173 --> 00:03:32,133 Speaker 1: didn't get it then. Been a busy year. 69 00:03:32,173 --> 00:03:34,013 Speaker 3: But you haven't given up on it yet. I haven't 70 00:03:34,013 --> 00:03:37,373 Speaker 3: given up. I mean it's not looking good, but I 71 00:03:37,413 --> 00:03:39,933 Speaker 3: haven't given up on it yet. Well, let's go. We're 72 00:03:39,933 --> 00:03:43,013 Speaker 3: gonna go through these games. I think you got to 73 00:03:43,093 --> 00:03:47,053 Speaker 3: start with the game in Denver. Broncos beat the Giants 74 00:03:47,053 --> 00:03:52,493 Speaker 3: thirty three to thirty two, and absolutely unbelievable. Forty six 75 00:03:52,653 --> 00:03:55,613 Speaker 3: points were scored in the fourth quarter of this game. 76 00:03:55,733 --> 00:03:59,413 Speaker 3: Forty six points. The Giants were up nineteen to nothing 77 00:03:59,853 --> 00:04:03,293 Speaker 3: to start the fourth quarter. The Broncos score thirty three 78 00:04:03,373 --> 00:04:06,933 Speaker 3: points in the fourth quarter, Giants score thirteen. Normally, that's 79 00:04:06,933 --> 00:04:09,493 Speaker 3: probably enough to win in the fourth quarter. I could 80 00:04:09,573 --> 00:04:12,733 Speaker 3: sit here and go back and forth, but I would say, 81 00:04:12,973 --> 00:04:16,693 Speaker 3: if you were trying to show someone who had never 82 00:04:16,853 --> 00:04:21,373 Speaker 3: watched the NFL, why is the NFL great? Wouldn't you 83 00:04:21,413 --> 00:04:23,452 Speaker 3: just show the fourth quarter of that game today? 84 00:04:24,053 --> 00:04:24,293 Speaker 1: Oh? 85 00:04:24,373 --> 00:04:27,212 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, sure it had a forty six points 86 00:04:27,293 --> 00:04:30,052 Speaker 2: or whatever, but it just had everything. You had turnovers, 87 00:04:30,092 --> 00:04:31,892 Speaker 2: big phil goals, guys making. 88 00:04:31,652 --> 00:04:34,413 Speaker 1: Plays, sad knickers. 89 00:04:34,212 --> 00:04:36,732 Speaker 2: Sad kickers. That was hard to watch. Get to that 90 00:04:36,772 --> 00:04:38,652 Speaker 2: in just a second. But I saw the you know, 91 00:04:38,652 --> 00:04:41,452 Speaker 2: we're big on the next gen stats. We always have 92 00:04:41,493 --> 00:04:44,372 Speaker 2: a big next gen stat. They said that fourth quarter 93 00:04:44,532 --> 00:04:47,853 Speaker 2: was the most improbable comeback for the seventh most improbable 94 00:04:47,892 --> 00:04:50,813 Speaker 2: comeback since they've been doing next gen stats. That's how 95 00:04:50,853 --> 00:04:51,373 Speaker 2: wild it was. 96 00:04:51,772 --> 00:04:54,253 Speaker 1: You know what, it was nineteen or nothing, then it 97 00:04:54,373 --> 00:04:59,373 Speaker 1: was nineteen to eight when they made it twenty six 98 00:04:59,493 --> 00:05:03,573 Speaker 1: to eight. I really genuinely. I remember they showed Sean 99 00:05:03,733 --> 00:05:06,053 Speaker 1: Payton on the sideline. It was twenty six to eight 100 00:05:06,493 --> 00:05:09,813 Speaker 1: and they were like nine minutes to go, and I thought, 101 00:05:10,173 --> 00:05:13,652 Speaker 1: Sean thinks he has a chance. How naive is that dude? Like, 102 00:05:13,693 --> 00:05:16,772 Speaker 1: look at him over there, acting like they're still in 103 00:05:16,772 --> 00:05:20,852 Speaker 1: this game. I was mocking Sean Payton for like looking 104 00:05:21,013 --> 00:05:23,613 Speaker 1: like this game wasn't over, and then he ends up 105 00:05:23,892 --> 00:05:25,733 Speaker 1: having the last laugh. I think part of what made 106 00:05:25,772 --> 00:05:29,972 Speaker 1: it great is bo Nix and Jackson Dart. Neither one 107 00:05:30,013 --> 00:05:34,133 Speaker 1: of them. They're both young enough and reckless enough that 108 00:05:34,253 --> 00:05:38,373 Speaker 1: you believe in any moment something great or horrific could happen. 109 00:05:38,693 --> 00:05:40,693 Speaker 1: And I think that actually is part of what makes 110 00:05:40,693 --> 00:05:43,092 Speaker 1: it so interesting because in that fourth quarter, they made 111 00:05:43,092 --> 00:05:46,092 Speaker 1: some amazing plays and then they made some really stupid plays. 112 00:05:46,332 --> 00:05:49,612 Speaker 1: And I think actually having those two kind of swashbuckling 113 00:05:49,733 --> 00:05:52,333 Speaker 1: young chaps actually helped quite a bit. 114 00:05:52,933 --> 00:05:55,133 Speaker 2: Yeah, you kids and I they both have a little 115 00:05:55,133 --> 00:05:57,213 Speaker 2: bit of swagger, you know. Dart had the full extension 116 00:05:57,212 --> 00:05:58,733 Speaker 2: for the touchdown that looked like it would have been 117 00:05:58,733 --> 00:06:00,933 Speaker 2: a game winner, but shortly before that he has the 118 00:06:00,972 --> 00:06:05,133 Speaker 2: horrible interception. He's still doing like crossfield throws you shouldn't 119 00:06:05,133 --> 00:06:06,973 Speaker 2: be doing, but pulling them off. But it made for 120 00:06:06,972 --> 00:06:10,372 Speaker 2: an entertaining game. I was I'm kind of a closet 121 00:06:10,493 --> 00:06:13,253 Speaker 2: or closet sean Payton hater. Did you see when he 122 00:06:13,293 --> 00:06:15,133 Speaker 2: got the fifteen yard pilloty there at the end and 123 00:06:15,173 --> 00:06:15,412 Speaker 2: how that. 124 00:06:15,813 --> 00:06:17,172 Speaker 1: Did for running out on the show? 125 00:06:17,332 --> 00:06:19,373 Speaker 2: I wanted them to lose just so he would have 126 00:06:19,412 --> 00:06:20,212 Speaker 2: to sit there and eat it. 127 00:06:20,772 --> 00:06:24,533 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I actually think that pass interference on 128 00:06:24,573 --> 00:06:27,693 Speaker 1: that play was a little sketchy. I'm not sure if 129 00:06:27,693 --> 00:06:30,133 Speaker 1: it was. I understand why he was upset. I did 130 00:06:30,253 --> 00:06:32,972 Speaker 1: like the debate of was the penalty on the two 131 00:06:33,013 --> 00:06:34,492 Speaker 1: and they get it on the one or was the 132 00:06:34,493 --> 00:06:36,332 Speaker 1: piloty on the floor and they get it on the two? 133 00:06:36,412 --> 00:06:38,532 Speaker 1: It sounded like the announcers were kind of fighting with 134 00:06:38,573 --> 00:06:42,332 Speaker 1: each other about it. Brian dayball is like running out 135 00:06:42,373 --> 00:06:45,053 Speaker 1: Sean Payton's running out. You rarely see though the coach 136 00:06:45,212 --> 00:06:47,573 Speaker 1: arguing so much. He hits a flag. That's like something 137 00:06:47,613 --> 00:06:50,212 Speaker 1: you see in the NBA with technicals. You don't see 138 00:06:50,212 --> 00:06:51,773 Speaker 1: that a lot in the NFL, and in such a 139 00:06:51,853 --> 00:06:54,332 Speaker 1: key moment. But they ended up winning the game, and 140 00:06:54,332 --> 00:06:57,853 Speaker 1: so it didn't matter. A couple of things that stood 141 00:06:57,853 --> 00:07:01,133 Speaker 1: out to me. First of all, Jackson Dart threw one 142 00:07:01,173 --> 00:07:03,292 Speaker 1: of the worst interceptions of all time. I mean, he 143 00:07:03,373 --> 00:07:06,732 Speaker 1: almost came back and it didn't matter, but that interception 144 00:07:06,853 --> 00:07:09,813 Speaker 1: he threw. I mean basically, as long as he doesn't 145 00:07:09,813 --> 00:07:13,373 Speaker 1: throw an interception, they probably win that game. But by 146 00:07:13,413 --> 00:07:15,573 Speaker 1: throwing an interception, they get the ball in the twenty, 147 00:07:15,613 --> 00:07:18,172 Speaker 1: they're able to score quickly. If they punt there, I 148 00:07:18,213 --> 00:07:20,612 Speaker 1: think they probably run out the clock and are not 149 00:07:20,813 --> 00:07:24,173 Speaker 1: able to win the game. You could not have had 150 00:07:24,213 --> 00:07:26,973 Speaker 1: a worst sequence there by Jackson Dart, who otherwise played 151 00:07:27,093 --> 00:07:27,533 Speaker 1: very well. 152 00:07:28,053 --> 00:07:30,493 Speaker 2: It was a horrible interception. It would like a guy 153 00:07:30,533 --> 00:07:33,893 Speaker 2: made a play or batted ball. I don't know what 154 00:07:33,893 --> 00:07:35,373 Speaker 2: the hell he's looking at. I mean he just threw 155 00:07:35,373 --> 00:07:37,133 Speaker 2: it directly to the linebacker. 156 00:07:38,173 --> 00:07:40,852 Speaker 1: The linebackers like it feels like you'd seen just for 157 00:07:41,013 --> 00:07:43,133 Speaker 1: sheer wits on the side. 158 00:07:43,413 --> 00:07:46,292 Speaker 2: I feel like you wouldn't have seen him directly in 159 00:07:46,293 --> 00:07:48,413 Speaker 2: front of him to horrible, horrible look for him. But 160 00:07:48,453 --> 00:07:50,493 Speaker 2: as you said, it's kind of what you're gonna get 161 00:07:50,493 --> 00:07:53,173 Speaker 2: when you've got a gunslinger that just took over the reins. 162 00:07:53,453 --> 00:07:58,413 Speaker 1: He also had two touchdowns scored off deflected passes that 163 00:07:58,693 --> 00:08:02,093 Speaker 1: and both of them deflected passes where it deflects and 164 00:08:02,133 --> 00:08:05,333 Speaker 1: the guy catches it in stride and keeps running like 165 00:08:05,453 --> 00:08:07,813 Speaker 1: that is again, if you just want to see the 166 00:08:07,813 --> 00:08:11,773 Speaker 1: absurdity of football, you throw an oblong object and bounces 167 00:08:11,813 --> 00:08:14,172 Speaker 1: off one guy, the other guy catches it, he acts 168 00:08:14,213 --> 00:08:17,053 Speaker 1: like he was supposed to happen, and then everybody celebrates. 169 00:08:17,493 --> 00:08:19,653 Speaker 1: I also need to ask a question about Jackson dark. 170 00:08:20,093 --> 00:08:23,053 Speaker 1: You know, I black that people wear under their eyes. 171 00:08:23,693 --> 00:08:26,773 Speaker 1: Start with this question, what is it supposed to do? 172 00:08:27,373 --> 00:08:31,093 Speaker 1: What's it? What is the it testures the race? 173 00:08:32,333 --> 00:08:33,133 Speaker 2: What does that mean? 174 00:08:33,453 --> 00:08:36,173 Speaker 1: People say that, but I know I tend to think 175 00:08:36,213 --> 00:08:37,093 Speaker 1: that's nonsense. 176 00:08:39,453 --> 00:08:41,693 Speaker 2: The light hits this and stays here and keeps it 177 00:08:41,693 --> 00:08:42,373 Speaker 2: out of your eyes. 178 00:08:42,773 --> 00:08:47,213 Speaker 1: Do you believe that? Not really, I don't believe it. 179 00:08:47,213 --> 00:08:48,173 Speaker 2: It's more like war paint. 180 00:08:49,053 --> 00:08:51,573 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't believe it does anything. First of all, 181 00:08:51,773 --> 00:08:54,653 Speaker 1: I've never played a sport where I felt like things 182 00:08:54,653 --> 00:08:57,453 Speaker 1: were bouncing off my cheek and going into my eye 183 00:08:57,773 --> 00:09:00,533 Speaker 1: and it was and it was somehow that was a distraction. 184 00:09:00,693 --> 00:09:04,893 Speaker 1: But all right, fine, you have eye paint whatever. Jackson Dart, 185 00:09:04,933 --> 00:09:08,613 Speaker 1: though he only has on one cheek. This is why 186 00:09:08,653 --> 00:09:11,013 Speaker 1: I'm a little skeptical of him. Does he only want 187 00:09:11,053 --> 00:09:13,813 Speaker 1: to keep the sun out of one eye? He's fine 188 00:09:13,853 --> 00:09:16,853 Speaker 1: with the other? I being like, I don't understand Jackson 189 00:09:16,973 --> 00:09:19,133 Speaker 1: Dart's eye paint, And as soon as I saw that, 190 00:09:19,333 --> 00:09:20,613 Speaker 1: I thought the Broncos would win. 191 00:09:21,653 --> 00:09:24,253 Speaker 2: Yeah, the eye paint is kind of becoming. It seems 192 00:09:24,253 --> 00:09:26,453 Speaker 2: like costplay for some of them, almost like a wrestler, 193 00:09:26,573 --> 00:09:27,973 Speaker 2: like they're putting that on. You might have a guy 194 00:09:28,013 --> 00:09:32,573 Speaker 2: looking like staying here before long Jackson Dark. He's more 195 00:09:32,693 --> 00:09:34,853 Speaker 2: looking like a fifth member of Kiss than the actual 196 00:09:34,853 --> 00:09:36,973 Speaker 2: reason where you're supposed to put it right under your eyelids. 197 00:09:37,333 --> 00:09:40,813 Speaker 1: Billy, your guys. Scataboo scored a touchdown for the Giants. 198 00:09:42,333 --> 00:09:46,373 Speaker 1: He's becoming like a folk hero to people. Can I 199 00:09:46,453 --> 00:09:49,173 Speaker 1: be the one person that's anti Scataboo. It feels like 200 00:09:49,253 --> 00:09:54,933 Speaker 1: everyone loves Scataboo. Can I be con Scataboo? No reason, 201 00:09:55,093 --> 00:10:00,493 Speaker 1: just hater mentality. I don't. Everyone likes him too much, 202 00:10:00,533 --> 00:10:04,293 Speaker 1: and I just want to say I'm I'm anti Scataboo. 203 00:10:04,333 --> 00:10:08,933 Speaker 1: He's done nothing to me, but I've decided Drew anti Scannaboot. 204 00:10:09,293 --> 00:10:11,693 Speaker 2: I love him, and he's good. He's real good. He 205 00:10:11,733 --> 00:10:14,253 Speaker 2: had probably close to one hundred total yards today. But 206 00:10:14,333 --> 00:10:16,533 Speaker 2: I mean, he's just one of those guys will just 207 00:10:16,733 --> 00:10:20,493 Speaker 2: run through anyone, just lowering his head and he is 208 00:10:20,533 --> 00:10:23,333 Speaker 2: barreling three knocked over the defensive lineman. A couple weeks ago, 209 00:10:23,373 --> 00:10:25,133 Speaker 2: had a couple more plays like that today. He's just 210 00:10:25,173 --> 00:10:27,893 Speaker 2: so fun to watch, an old school football player, all right. 211 00:10:27,933 --> 00:10:30,253 Speaker 1: So that brings me to the moment that most stood 212 00:10:30,253 --> 00:10:33,533 Speaker 1: out to me. Of course, the Giants score. They go 213 00:10:33,653 --> 00:10:37,053 Speaker 1: up two with twenty seven seconds left and the guy 214 00:10:37,133 --> 00:10:40,853 Speaker 1: misses the extra point. Now they I believe the Giants 215 00:10:40,933 --> 00:10:45,733 Speaker 1: signed the coup kid from it was on Atlanta, right. 216 00:10:46,853 --> 00:10:49,413 Speaker 1: I think he is on their squad. Now. I couldn't 217 00:10:49,413 --> 00:10:51,133 Speaker 1: be wrong about that, but let's just go with it 218 00:10:51,173 --> 00:10:52,853 Speaker 1: and say, in case I think he's on their squad. 219 00:10:52,853 --> 00:10:56,253 Speaker 1: I think he's on the practice squad. Bringing him up. 220 00:10:56,573 --> 00:10:59,213 Speaker 1: What is the kicker's name who missed two extra points? 221 00:10:59,453 --> 00:11:02,533 Speaker 2: You're right about Coop Graham Godot has been their kicker, 222 00:11:02,573 --> 00:11:03,173 Speaker 2: but he's hurt. 223 00:11:03,453 --> 00:11:05,413 Speaker 1: But they have three kickers. 224 00:11:05,533 --> 00:11:08,853 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jude Macca, Timmy. I believe. 225 00:11:10,053 --> 00:11:13,333 Speaker 1: Jude Meca Tammy's Jude not gonna be on the team anymore. 226 00:11:13,733 --> 00:11:17,653 Speaker 1: Tomorrow is his name? So he misses. He's apparently a 227 00:11:17,693 --> 00:11:22,053 Speaker 1: former Rutgers kicker. I saw in the postgame that he 228 00:11:22,173 --> 00:11:26,693 Speaker 1: said his dream was to play in Giants, or was 229 00:11:26,693 --> 00:11:29,533 Speaker 1: to play for the Giants and hit a game winning kick, 230 00:11:29,893 --> 00:11:32,173 Speaker 1: which is a wonderful dream for a guy that goes 231 00:11:32,333 --> 00:11:35,133 Speaker 1: went to Rutgers to have. But then what happens when 232 00:11:35,293 --> 00:11:38,333 Speaker 1: you don't hit the game winning kick? You actually miss 233 00:11:38,613 --> 00:11:42,293 Speaker 1: two chip shots and you lose because of that? Did 234 00:11:42,333 --> 00:11:45,653 Speaker 1: you and the cameras were not giving the guy in mercy? 235 00:11:46,093 --> 00:11:51,133 Speaker 1: They showed him twenty five times in the last thirty seconds. 236 00:11:51,173 --> 00:11:52,853 Speaker 1: Did you think it was a little much? 237 00:11:53,133 --> 00:11:55,533 Speaker 2: I did. And it's not just that they kept showing him, 238 00:11:55,573 --> 00:11:58,493 Speaker 2: which the camera. The camera people are already vicious when 239 00:11:58,493 --> 00:12:00,893 Speaker 2: they do this, but it's almost like they staged a 240 00:12:00,973 --> 00:12:02,093 Speaker 2: sad area for him. 241 00:12:02,493 --> 00:12:04,573 Speaker 1: Yeah, no one he came and talked to him. 242 00:12:04,573 --> 00:12:06,853 Speaker 2: But there's like this long bitch. He was sitting on 243 00:12:06,893 --> 00:12:10,493 Speaker 2: the very end, like hanging on. No one was near him. 244 00:12:10,773 --> 00:12:13,013 Speaker 2: I think they dimmed the lights around him a little bit, 245 00:12:13,093 --> 00:12:15,293 Speaker 2: and then they just had the four K shot of him. 246 00:12:15,333 --> 00:12:17,133 Speaker 2: I felt terrible for him. I mean, you got to 247 00:12:17,133 --> 00:12:21,013 Speaker 2: make your extra points, but the tight shot of zoom 248 00:12:21,013 --> 00:12:22,973 Speaker 2: and in over and over it was actually breaking my 249 00:12:22,973 --> 00:12:23,573 Speaker 2: heart a little bit. 250 00:12:23,693 --> 00:12:26,573 Speaker 1: It felt like, honestly, the way it was staged, it 251 00:12:26,613 --> 00:12:29,973 Speaker 1: felt like Sarah McLaughlin should be singing in the background 252 00:12:30,213 --> 00:12:32,133 Speaker 1: in the arms of an angel. It was like those 253 00:12:32,133 --> 00:12:35,293 Speaker 1: old commercials that she would have about pets that were 254 00:12:35,333 --> 00:12:40,013 Speaker 1: being neglected. It was really sad. And the other thing 255 00:12:40,213 --> 00:12:44,973 Speaker 1: was kicking is such a like solitary, terrible lifestyle. Nobody 256 00:12:45,053 --> 00:12:47,813 Speaker 1: was even trying to act like it was okay. I 257 00:12:47,853 --> 00:12:51,013 Speaker 1: mean you could see on the people's faces they were like, 258 00:12:51,053 --> 00:12:53,973 Speaker 1: get him out of here, we hate him. Jackson Dart 259 00:12:54,053 --> 00:12:56,293 Speaker 1: I think put him in a locker after the game 260 00:12:56,413 --> 00:12:59,413 Speaker 1: was over. I felt really bad for him. I don't kickers, 261 00:12:59,773 --> 00:13:02,573 Speaker 1: like right now, they're literally on the highlights. They're showing him. 262 00:13:02,573 --> 00:13:05,013 Speaker 1: One guy taps his head and then just walks off. 263 00:13:05,893 --> 00:13:07,253 Speaker 1: Not good day for him. 264 00:13:07,573 --> 00:13:09,973 Speaker 2: So I was wondering this as I'm watching him. I'm 265 00:13:09,973 --> 00:13:12,493 Speaker 2: on my twentieth minute of watching him, sitting there sad 266 00:13:12,573 --> 00:13:15,533 Speaker 2: because they keep showing him, And I wondered if if 267 00:13:15,573 --> 00:13:18,333 Speaker 2: he just literally walked out and didn't go to the 268 00:13:18,373 --> 00:13:19,693 Speaker 2: locker room because he knows he's fired. 269 00:13:20,013 --> 00:13:23,933 Speaker 1: I'm just so he's gone. This means gets up and open. 270 00:13:23,973 --> 00:13:27,093 Speaker 2: I mean if he literally just fired himself, like didn't 271 00:13:27,093 --> 00:13:28,693 Speaker 2: go back to the locker room, and walked out to 272 00:13:28,733 --> 00:13:30,453 Speaker 2: the parking lot in his pads and got an uber 273 00:13:30,453 --> 00:13:31,013 Speaker 2: and stayed. 274 00:13:30,813 --> 00:13:33,733 Speaker 1: In Denver, I mean I would like that. How would 275 00:13:33,773 --> 00:13:36,333 Speaker 1: that work? And you also miss kicks in Denver where 276 00:13:36,333 --> 00:13:39,693 Speaker 1: apparently like anyone could kick at seventy five yards. He 277 00:13:39,733 --> 00:13:41,733 Speaker 1: misses them both, and of course they end up winning 278 00:13:41,733 --> 00:13:43,853 Speaker 1: the game. Brian Dayball. I don't know if you saw 279 00:13:43,933 --> 00:13:46,893 Speaker 1: when the kick was made, he throws his hat on 280 00:13:46,933 --> 00:13:50,253 Speaker 1: the ground like he was. It was almost like a 281 00:13:50,333 --> 00:13:54,053 Speaker 1: comic anger moment. He throws his hat on down, throws 282 00:13:54,093 --> 00:13:57,533 Speaker 1: his headset That's that may be the game that we 283 00:13:57,573 --> 00:13:59,933 Speaker 1: look back and say That's why Brian dave Ball gets 284 00:13:59,933 --> 00:14:01,733 Speaker 1: fired because if they win that and they're three and 285 00:14:01,853 --> 00:14:04,373 Speaker 1: four with some momentum, it might have been different. Now 286 00:14:04,413 --> 00:14:06,093 Speaker 1: two and five probably not happening for it. 287 00:14:06,853 --> 00:14:09,093 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking Giants are going to go blow 288 00:14:09,133 --> 00:14:11,453 Speaker 2: out a very good Denver team through three quarters there 289 00:14:11,493 --> 00:14:14,053 Speaker 2: and that Dave All is gonna be fine. They're building something, 290 00:14:14,053 --> 00:14:16,013 Speaker 2: and now two extra points could go the other way. 291 00:14:16,293 --> 00:14:19,773 Speaker 2: Some coaches. You'll see him comfort the kicker, you know, Sorry, pal. 292 00:14:19,613 --> 00:14:20,373 Speaker 1: We'll get him next time. 293 00:14:20,413 --> 00:14:21,053 Speaker 2: Now, not Davo. 294 00:14:21,333 --> 00:14:24,253 Speaker 1: That happened out. He's like, kid, find a job. We'll 295 00:14:24,253 --> 00:14:28,333 Speaker 1: see what's next. The Eagles beat the Vikings twenty eight 296 00:14:28,373 --> 00:14:32,853 Speaker 1: to twenty two. Jalen Hurts had, you know, people had said, 297 00:14:32,893 --> 00:14:36,013 Speaker 1: where's the Eagles offense? Found it today? Devonte Smith one 298 00:14:36,133 --> 00:14:39,613 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty three receiving yards. That's a crazy amount. 299 00:14:39,853 --> 00:14:42,533 Speaker 1: And then aj Brown, who's of course been topic of 300 00:14:42,573 --> 00:14:45,093 Speaker 1: a lot of conversations, one hundred and twenty one yards, 301 00:14:45,413 --> 00:14:49,373 Speaker 1: two touchdowns. The quote after the game, Jalen Hurts said, 302 00:14:50,013 --> 00:14:55,333 Speaker 1: after looking around, he quote uncovered his swag again. I'm 303 00:14:55,333 --> 00:14:57,533 Speaker 1: not sure what that means, but maybe it means the 304 00:14:57,573 --> 00:14:58,733 Speaker 1: Eagles are back on track. 305 00:15:00,853 --> 00:15:02,733 Speaker 2: He can call it swag. I think it's more they 306 00:15:02,773 --> 00:15:04,893 Speaker 2: just opened the offense a little better. Got You mentioned 307 00:15:04,893 --> 00:15:07,213 Speaker 2: Smith's big game, but aj Brown got two touchdowns. He 308 00:15:07,213 --> 00:15:09,853 Speaker 2: even had a moment he yelled something after his touchdown 309 00:15:09,893 --> 00:15:11,533 Speaker 2: with a mic caught him, like, see what happens when 310 00:15:11,533 --> 00:15:14,093 Speaker 2: you throw me the ball? So instead of just kind 311 00:15:14,133 --> 00:15:16,413 Speaker 2: of running up the goat with Saquon and Tush pushing 312 00:15:16,413 --> 00:15:18,213 Speaker 2: in their way through the season, I think they're finally 313 00:15:18,253 --> 00:15:20,253 Speaker 2: realizing that Hurts throw it around a little bit. He 314 00:15:20,293 --> 00:15:23,413 Speaker 2: had a perfect passer rating today and they. 315 00:15:23,253 --> 00:15:26,213 Speaker 1: Flipped the Sween. He played great and for people who 316 00:15:26,293 --> 00:15:28,333 Speaker 1: want to make the case, we often talk on my 317 00:15:28,893 --> 00:15:32,573 Speaker 1: ESPN show about how the top four quarterbacks in the 318 00:15:32,653 --> 00:15:35,453 Speaker 1: league are generally settled, and then the question is always 319 00:15:35,453 --> 00:15:40,493 Speaker 1: who's fifth, because once you get past Mahomes, Allen Burrow, 320 00:15:40,773 --> 00:15:44,213 Speaker 1: and Lamar, who's fifth. Jalen Hurts made the case for 321 00:15:45,373 --> 00:15:49,733 Speaker 1: fifth today. You mentioned the touch push. Let's talk about 322 00:15:49,933 --> 00:15:52,253 Speaker 1: the biggest takeaway of the game to me, which is 323 00:15:52,253 --> 00:15:55,813 Speaker 1: the Vikings tried to figure out the Toush push. It 324 00:15:55,893 --> 00:15:58,173 Speaker 1: reminds me of in hockey when people would say, well, 325 00:15:58,173 --> 00:16:00,413 Speaker 1: why don't you just get a goalie that's really fat, 326 00:16:00,493 --> 00:16:03,053 Speaker 1: Like that's always the for people who don't watch hockey. 327 00:16:03,373 --> 00:16:05,493 Speaker 1: I like the idea of, okay, we want to stop 328 00:16:05,493 --> 00:16:09,133 Speaker 1: the tushu, let's just have someone lay down. You did 329 00:16:09,173 --> 00:16:09,813 Speaker 1: you like that? 330 00:16:10,853 --> 00:16:11,813 Speaker 4: Did uh? 331 00:16:12,133 --> 00:16:14,973 Speaker 2: It drew a false start. But even Jason Kelsey I 332 00:16:14,973 --> 00:16:17,013 Speaker 2: saw he came out and he kind of explained why 333 00:16:17,013 --> 00:16:18,853 Speaker 2: they would try it and said, you know, that makes sense. 334 00:16:18,893 --> 00:16:20,813 Speaker 2: They're trying to get low to the point of contact, 335 00:16:20,893 --> 00:16:23,733 Speaker 2: just you know, block up every space they can. But 336 00:16:23,813 --> 00:16:25,733 Speaker 2: I wondered how you go up to that guy like, 337 00:16:25,773 --> 00:16:27,333 Speaker 2: hey man, you're a great player, we love you, but 338 00:16:27,413 --> 00:16:29,373 Speaker 2: we literally just need you to lay here. 339 00:16:29,613 --> 00:16:32,133 Speaker 1: Just lay down, just sacrifice yourself. 340 00:16:32,453 --> 00:16:35,493 Speaker 2: Yeah, just you know, I don't know if there's more 341 00:16:35,613 --> 00:16:37,773 Speaker 2: of an injury potential there for him, but that's that's 342 00:16:37,813 --> 00:16:39,853 Speaker 2: quite the ass to just lay you down at the 343 00:16:39,853 --> 00:16:41,893 Speaker 2: line of scrimmage there and have your teammatesuttal over here. 344 00:16:42,293 --> 00:16:44,653 Speaker 1: He did a little Conway tweety lay you down and 345 00:16:44,733 --> 00:16:47,173 Speaker 1: softly whispered that they weren't going to get the toush push. 346 00:16:47,693 --> 00:16:51,293 Speaker 1: I like the creativity. I mean, you know, for people 347 00:16:51,293 --> 00:16:53,693 Speaker 1: who think the toush push shouldn't be illegal, I think 348 00:16:53,733 --> 00:16:56,293 Speaker 1: it probably should. But for those that think you don't, 349 00:16:56,413 --> 00:17:00,133 Speaker 1: you go, okay, what inspires this this creativity that got 350 00:17:00,173 --> 00:17:02,133 Speaker 1: the false star which got him out of the way. 351 00:17:02,373 --> 00:17:03,813 Speaker 1: So I just thought it was pretty good. Did you 352 00:17:03,813 --> 00:17:07,253 Speaker 1: think the TJ. Hawkinson touchdown? Do you think it should 353 00:17:07,292 --> 00:17:11,253 Speaker 1: have been overturned on review? He was very, very very 354 00:17:11,333 --> 00:17:12,493 Speaker 1: upset after the game. 355 00:17:13,653 --> 00:17:15,613 Speaker 2: I like to call it first, and then I saw 356 00:17:15,653 --> 00:17:18,693 Speaker 2: how mad he was, and I'm terrified if you know, 357 00:17:18,773 --> 00:17:20,773 Speaker 2: his rage, so I'm gonna side with him. 358 00:17:21,213 --> 00:17:26,293 Speaker 1: Yeah. I kind of thought it probably was a fumble 359 00:17:26,453 --> 00:17:30,572 Speaker 1: or probably wasn't a catch in completion, but I don't 360 00:17:30,653 --> 00:17:33,773 Speaker 1: think I'm surprised they overruled it because the call in 361 00:17:33,813 --> 00:17:37,173 Speaker 1: the field. I didn't think it was definitive. I never 362 00:17:37,293 --> 00:17:40,933 Speaker 1: understand the whole. If it's not definitive, we change it. 363 00:17:41,173 --> 00:17:42,933 Speaker 2: I leaned that it was the right one bets and 364 00:17:42,973 --> 00:17:43,733 Speaker 2: it was very close. 365 00:17:44,053 --> 00:17:45,853 Speaker 1: Do you feel after all these years you know what 366 00:17:45,933 --> 00:17:50,933 Speaker 1: a catch is? No, Like I real the rule about 367 00:17:51,413 --> 00:17:54,332 Speaker 1: the follow the completion of the catch where you have 368 00:17:54,373 --> 00:17:58,413 Speaker 1: to like lay in, roll over, do your taxes, and 369 00:17:58,493 --> 00:18:02,493 Speaker 1: then finish it. I still don't. I still don't really 370 00:18:02,493 --> 00:18:05,813 Speaker 1: get it. I still don't really know the moment, especially 371 00:18:05,813 --> 00:18:08,493 Speaker 1: when you're talking about on the goal line, where I 372 00:18:08,653 --> 00:18:11,053 Speaker 1: thought if you cross the goal line the play was over. 373 00:18:11,213 --> 00:18:14,133 Speaker 1: So I've never really understood how that rule works. 374 00:18:14,413 --> 00:18:16,493 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're running back, and if you're running you 375 00:18:16,493 --> 00:18:18,773 Speaker 2: just get the nose of the ball to barely good. 376 00:18:18,773 --> 00:18:21,773 Speaker 2: But a receiver has to roll over three times and 377 00:18:21,813 --> 00:18:23,613 Speaker 2: make sure they hold onto it for six seconds. 378 00:18:24,013 --> 00:18:25,973 Speaker 1: Works like a dog. I don't get it. 379 00:18:25,973 --> 00:18:27,893 Speaker 2: It's very inconsistent depending on the crew. 380 00:18:28,373 --> 00:18:32,733 Speaker 1: Yeah, well the egos win. Carson Wentz playing the way did, 381 00:18:32,813 --> 00:18:36,453 Speaker 1: I think makes it more likely that JJ McCarthy's given 382 00:18:36,533 --> 00:18:41,013 Speaker 1: that job when he comes back, But still you could 383 00:18:41,133 --> 00:18:43,373 Speaker 1: maybe see it going either way. Did you see there was. 384 00:18:43,373 --> 00:18:46,333 Speaker 2: A Carson Wentz blooper real all from this one game. 385 00:18:46,733 --> 00:18:47,933 Speaker 1: It was like, I see that. 386 00:18:48,213 --> 00:18:50,893 Speaker 2: It was like a season's worth of bloopers all from 387 00:18:50,973 --> 00:18:53,053 Speaker 2: just this game. So definitely got. 388 00:18:52,813 --> 00:18:56,093 Speaker 1: To get rid of him. Well, Carson Wentz did get 389 00:18:56,133 --> 00:18:59,973 Speaker 1: engaged at the castle in Versales, Kentucky. And for those 390 00:19:00,013 --> 00:19:02,813 Speaker 1: of you that aren't from Kentucky, that whole sentence may 391 00:19:02,853 --> 00:19:06,493 Speaker 1: sound strange that there is a castle and that then's 392 00:19:06,573 --> 00:19:11,133 Speaker 1: name is for Sales and not Versailles, But go look 393 00:19:11,173 --> 00:19:13,213 Speaker 1: it up if you've never seen it, There's a castle 394 00:19:13,453 --> 00:19:16,653 Speaker 1: and Carson Wentz got engaged there. So I didn't have 395 00:19:16,733 --> 00:19:18,093 Speaker 1: a lot, It doesn't have a lot to do with 396 00:19:18,133 --> 00:19:19,893 Speaker 1: this game. I just felt like that was something that 397 00:19:19,933 --> 00:19:20,973 Speaker 1: I needed to throw in there. 398 00:19:21,293 --> 00:19:23,053 Speaker 2: I took his move. I did it a month later, 399 00:19:23,613 --> 00:19:25,173 Speaker 2: kind of copycat. 400 00:19:25,333 --> 00:19:26,373 Speaker 1: You got engaged there. 401 00:19:26,253 --> 00:19:29,053 Speaker 2: Too, Yeah, like really a month after Carson Wentz. 402 00:19:29,493 --> 00:19:32,853 Speaker 1: You got engaged at like Nate Bargatzi show. Well, we 403 00:19:33,173 --> 00:19:34,733 Speaker 1: we went there after. 404 00:19:35,053 --> 00:19:35,973 Speaker 2: Yeah, we sell you there. 405 00:19:36,053 --> 00:19:36,213 Speaker 1: Yeah. 406 00:19:36,253 --> 00:19:39,053 Speaker 2: Yeah, So Carson and I we're kind of the same 407 00:19:39,053 --> 00:19:40,453 Speaker 2: when it comes to the romantic stuff. 408 00:19:40,573 --> 00:19:43,053 Speaker 1: I think you should have gotten engaged at Nate Bargazzi Show. 409 00:19:43,133 --> 00:19:45,213 Speaker 1: I think that would be a lot. I think that 410 00:19:45,213 --> 00:19:47,893 Speaker 1: would be a better story and probably something your your 411 00:19:47,973 --> 00:20:05,093 Speaker 1: wife Abby would have been joined Crackers, h and Cardinals. 412 00:20:05,413 --> 00:20:10,333 Speaker 1: This to me was the Micah Parsons is a Packer 413 00:20:10,573 --> 00:20:13,133 Speaker 1: now game right, he had three sacks. I was kind 414 00:20:13,133 --> 00:20:15,813 Speaker 1: of surprised first game of his career where he had 415 00:20:15,813 --> 00:20:18,733 Speaker 1: three sacks. I think I would have assumed that that 416 00:20:18,853 --> 00:20:23,453 Speaker 1: had happened in Dallas, but he also it was definitively 417 00:20:23,533 --> 00:20:25,773 Speaker 1: when you knew when he was on the field. I 418 00:20:25,773 --> 00:20:28,773 Speaker 1: mean on the Cardinals' final drive where they were driving 419 00:20:28,813 --> 00:20:31,573 Speaker 1: to try to win the game. They take him out, 420 00:20:31,853 --> 00:20:35,133 Speaker 1: they throw a twenty five yard pass, he comes back in, 421 00:20:35,893 --> 00:20:39,013 Speaker 1: the announcers go Michael Parsons back in next play was 422 00:20:39,053 --> 00:20:41,053 Speaker 1: a sack. I mean it was like literally you in 423 00:20:41,093 --> 00:20:43,933 Speaker 1: that drive could see the difference between having Micah Parsons 424 00:20:43,933 --> 00:20:44,133 Speaker 1: and not. 425 00:20:45,373 --> 00:20:48,253 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was, you know, Michah Parsons at his best 426 00:20:48,293 --> 00:20:51,173 Speaker 2: that last drive. He absolutely wrecked them. It seemed every 427 00:20:51,213 --> 00:20:53,332 Speaker 2: play if he wasn't getting a stat he was forcing 428 00:20:53,373 --> 00:20:55,613 Speaker 2: them into make a mistake. He was in the backfield. 429 00:20:55,653 --> 00:20:58,052 Speaker 2: It seemed like every time they dropped back. Kind of 430 00:20:58,053 --> 00:21:00,413 Speaker 2: been quiet there in Green Bay. He's been fine, you know, 431 00:21:00,453 --> 00:21:02,893 Speaker 2: he's had the injury, getting acclimated of things, but that 432 00:21:03,053 --> 00:21:05,613 Speaker 2: was by far his breakout game. He's still a nightmare 433 00:21:05,653 --> 00:21:06,013 Speaker 2: of a pass. 434 00:21:06,573 --> 00:21:10,053 Speaker 1: Well. Had kind of been surprisingly, like almost shockingly quiet 435 00:21:10,773 --> 00:21:14,053 Speaker 1: up until this point. You felt it today. And he 436 00:21:14,173 --> 00:21:17,333 Speaker 1: needed to play well because Jacoby Brissett was very good, 437 00:21:17,413 --> 00:21:21,173 Speaker 1: had three touchdown passes. Cardinals had a chance down the stretch, 438 00:21:21,333 --> 00:21:26,133 Speaker 1: just couldn't quite make the plays. While the game was fun, 439 00:21:26,413 --> 00:21:28,133 Speaker 1: I think the more interesting thing to me was that 440 00:21:28,173 --> 00:21:30,973 Speaker 1: the Packers had to sit on the runway for five 441 00:21:31,013 --> 00:21:33,133 Speaker 1: hours before they came to the game, So I guess 442 00:21:33,173 --> 00:21:36,813 Speaker 1: there were mechanical issues that made them have to sit 443 00:21:36,853 --> 00:21:41,653 Speaker 1: on the runway before they came to Arizona. You know, 444 00:21:42,093 --> 00:21:43,653 Speaker 1: I had a couple thoughts. First of all, have you 445 00:21:43,653 --> 00:21:46,413 Speaker 1: ever been on a plane, Drew where they tell you 446 00:21:46,493 --> 00:21:52,573 Speaker 1: they have mechanical issues before? Yes, I have two. I 447 00:21:52,573 --> 00:21:57,533 Speaker 1: immediately want them to cancel the fight. I mean when 448 00:21:57,573 --> 00:22:01,413 Speaker 1: they say we're having mechanical issues, and especially the longer 449 00:22:01,453 --> 00:22:05,013 Speaker 1: it goes, I don't think there's any reason for it 450 00:22:05,053 --> 00:22:07,052 Speaker 1: to fly. If you had been on that runway for 451 00:22:07,093 --> 00:22:10,213 Speaker 1: five hours, would you have wanted to take off? No? 452 00:22:10,453 --> 00:22:12,493 Speaker 2: And I wouldn't have want have been on the runway either. 453 00:22:12,493 --> 00:22:14,613 Speaker 2: I don't understand when they have the mechanical issues. Can 454 00:22:14,653 --> 00:22:16,773 Speaker 2: we not step off? Why you all figure this out 455 00:22:16,813 --> 00:22:19,013 Speaker 2: and I'll go inside to Chili's Two? Why do I 456 00:22:19,093 --> 00:22:20,893 Speaker 2: have to sit here in this hot airplane while you're 457 00:22:20,933 --> 00:22:22,413 Speaker 2: figuring out this mechanical Yeah, they don't. 458 00:22:22,413 --> 00:22:25,373 Speaker 1: They don't. They won't let you leave again, that like 459 00:22:25,413 --> 00:22:30,613 Speaker 1: almost never happens. I'm with you. I don't like the 460 00:22:30,693 --> 00:22:35,973 Speaker 1: mechanical issues, and I also don't understand how they can 461 00:22:36,093 --> 00:22:39,373 Speaker 1: just fix it while you're out in the middle. I mean, 462 00:22:39,413 --> 00:22:40,853 Speaker 1: I would think there would be need to be a 463 00:22:40,893 --> 00:22:43,773 Speaker 1: garage or they need to lift something up. I've never 464 00:22:44,253 --> 00:22:47,413 Speaker 1: Every time they do that, I feel awful about it, 465 00:22:47,453 --> 00:22:49,813 Speaker 1: and I also start to get in my head when 466 00:22:49,853 --> 00:22:50,373 Speaker 1: that happens. 467 00:22:50,413 --> 00:22:52,613 Speaker 5: So I'm impressed the packers were able to get over. 468 00:22:52,733 --> 00:22:55,773 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, they did the walkthrough. I saw they played cards. 469 00:22:55,813 --> 00:22:59,333 Speaker 5: But the craziest part was they had two planes and 470 00:22:59,333 --> 00:23:02,653 Speaker 5: the other one had like staff, not coaches, and players, 471 00:23:03,253 --> 00:23:06,533 Speaker 5: just like random staff members, and that one too off 472 00:23:06,653 --> 00:23:07,653 Speaker 5: and got the Arizona. 473 00:23:08,053 --> 00:23:11,613 Speaker 2: It's like, why not let the other players turn around 474 00:23:11,653 --> 00:23:14,773 Speaker 2: and then let the players go first? Like you have 475 00:23:14,853 --> 00:23:17,213 Speaker 2: the media crew and the social media team gets to Arizona, 476 00:23:17,253 --> 00:23:20,053 Speaker 2: but your players and coaches. I'm thinking order of personnel 477 00:23:20,093 --> 00:23:21,733 Speaker 2: should have gone first off the runway there. 478 00:23:22,133 --> 00:23:25,293 Speaker 1: Yeah, that'sh I like that, though. The social media people 479 00:23:25,293 --> 00:23:27,693 Speaker 1: need to set up and then the players get there 480 00:23:27,973 --> 00:23:32,173 Speaker 1: when they get there. The day started in London with 481 00:23:32,293 --> 00:23:36,893 Speaker 1: the Rams beating the Jaguars thirty five to seven. There's 482 00:23:37,013 --> 00:23:39,013 Speaker 1: very little to say about this game. I mean, Matthew 483 00:23:39,053 --> 00:23:43,453 Speaker 1: Stafford played awesome. The game was actually never competitive. I mean, 484 00:23:43,493 --> 00:23:46,693 Speaker 1: the Rams were up fourteen to nothing early Travis Hunter 485 00:23:46,693 --> 00:23:51,213 Speaker 1: DIDs for his first touchdown ever for the Jaguars. But 486 00:23:51,333 --> 00:23:54,893 Speaker 1: it was just it was brutal and it also they 487 00:23:54,973 --> 00:23:58,093 Speaker 1: say there was I noticed on social media someone said 488 00:23:58,773 --> 00:24:04,413 Speaker 1: that fans in the stadium started singing random songs during 489 00:24:04,453 --> 00:24:09,133 Speaker 1: the game, not songs about the game, just people were 490 00:24:09,173 --> 00:24:13,573 Speaker 1: starting up songs and they sang apparently Bruno Mars and 491 00:24:13,613 --> 00:24:16,572 Speaker 1: they sang Robbie Williams. I guess a British singer that 492 00:24:16,653 --> 00:24:19,373 Speaker 1: doesn't happen in America, but it does in Britain. Belli. 493 00:24:19,493 --> 00:24:23,213 Speaker 1: Robbie Williams is got to be one of the only 494 00:24:23,253 --> 00:24:28,013 Speaker 1: people that is massively famous in Britain. And only thing 495 00:24:28,013 --> 00:24:30,333 Speaker 1: people know about him here is they made that movie 496 00:24:30,373 --> 00:24:32,533 Speaker 1: with him as a monkey. That was the only thing 497 00:24:32,613 --> 00:24:35,893 Speaker 1: that which I also don't think anybody saw. But they 498 00:24:35,973 --> 00:24:37,853 Speaker 1: just decided to make a biography of him where he 499 00:24:37,853 --> 00:24:41,292 Speaker 1: was a monkey, and he got good reviews. Actually, but 500 00:24:41,933 --> 00:24:44,733 Speaker 1: did you see that movie? No, I have no idea 501 00:24:44,773 --> 00:24:47,253 Speaker 1: what you're talking about. You don't know what I'm talking about. 502 00:24:47,373 --> 00:24:48,773 Speaker 2: But no, you're gonna have to explain this one to 503 00:24:48,773 --> 00:24:49,292 Speaker 2: me a little mill. 504 00:24:49,413 --> 00:24:51,733 Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm talking about. There's a cgi 505 00:24:52,893 --> 00:24:56,933 Speaker 1: movie about Robbie. It's an autobiography of Robbie Williams, but 506 00:24:57,013 --> 00:25:01,852 Speaker 1: he's a monkey. You are looking at me like I'm crazy. 507 00:25:01,893 --> 00:25:04,093 Speaker 1: Do you not know about the Robbie Williams monkey movie. 508 00:25:04,213 --> 00:25:05,333 Speaker 2: I do not not at all. 509 00:25:05,693 --> 00:25:10,812 Speaker 1: Look look it up. There's a movie where Robbie Williams 510 00:25:10,893 --> 00:25:13,413 Speaker 1: is a monkey and it got like really good reviews 511 00:25:13,453 --> 00:25:16,493 Speaker 1: and it's called I don't know what it's called. It's 512 00:25:16,493 --> 00:25:21,292 Speaker 1: called Monkey Robbie Williams movie, but it exists. I'm not 513 00:25:21,413 --> 00:25:22,053 Speaker 1: just crazy. 514 00:25:22,293 --> 00:25:24,813 Speaker 2: Although I have to give Travis Hunter one shout out 515 00:25:24,813 --> 00:25:27,213 Speaker 2: on it. I don't think he played much defense today, 516 00:25:27,213 --> 00:25:29,533 Speaker 2: but they did throw at him one time on DeVante 517 00:25:29,573 --> 00:25:33,373 Speaker 2: Adams and he made a crazy cornerback play past breakup 518 00:25:33,413 --> 00:25:34,573 Speaker 2: in addition to his big receiver. 519 00:25:34,693 --> 00:25:36,653 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a big play. This was This was 520 00:25:36,693 --> 00:25:38,933 Speaker 1: his best game for if you're kind of waiting to 521 00:25:38,973 --> 00:25:41,213 Speaker 1: see when Travis Hunter was going to have a game. 522 00:25:41,253 --> 00:25:43,853 Speaker 1: Even though they lost by twenty eight, this was the game, 523 00:25:44,333 --> 00:25:48,733 Speaker 1: all right, Chiefs Raiders, Chiefs thirty one Raiders Nothing where 524 00:25:48,733 --> 00:25:53,213 Speaker 1: she Rice comes back after six games suspension, immediately scores 525 00:25:54,093 --> 00:25:57,413 Speaker 1: a touchdown. This was Billy's Survivor League pick, which made 526 00:25:57,453 --> 00:26:00,773 Speaker 1: him get to move on as well as I won 527 00:26:00,933 --> 00:26:03,332 Speaker 1: mine as with the Patriots too, so he and I 528 00:26:03,333 --> 00:26:05,453 Speaker 1: are both involved. You are still out of it, Drew 529 00:26:06,253 --> 00:26:10,173 Speaker 1: she Rice was gets a touchdown and Mahomes was pretty 530 00:26:10,213 --> 00:26:14,053 Speaker 1: excellent throughout the game. There are very few things I've 531 00:26:14,093 --> 00:26:18,653 Speaker 1: done my Chris collins Worth with Mahomes the only Tony Romo. 532 00:26:18,773 --> 00:26:21,893 Speaker 1: He doesn't moan and pant quite like Collin's Worth, but 533 00:26:21,933 --> 00:26:25,812 Speaker 1: Tony Romo starts giggling like a schoolboy with Mahomes as well. 534 00:26:26,973 --> 00:26:30,812 Speaker 2: Yeah, he looks so good today, and that was someone 535 00:26:30,813 --> 00:26:32,292 Speaker 2: that was doubt him earlier in the year. I just 536 00:26:32,333 --> 00:26:34,532 Speaker 2: got apologize and admit that I was an idiot for 537 00:26:34,573 --> 00:26:37,773 Speaker 2: not considering the importance of Worthy and now Rice in 538 00:26:37,813 --> 00:26:39,853 Speaker 2: that offense. I mean, they went to Rice right away 539 00:26:39,893 --> 00:26:42,013 Speaker 2: first touchdown the game. They get two in the whole game. 540 00:26:42,093 --> 00:26:44,933 Speaker 2: But the Chiefs don't look like they've missed much as 541 00:26:45,053 --> 00:26:47,093 Speaker 2: much of a beat since getting those guys back. 542 00:26:47,333 --> 00:26:52,493 Speaker 1: Well, offensively, they look like the Chiefs three years ago. 543 00:26:52,573 --> 00:26:54,533 Speaker 1: I mean, I know they made the Super Bowl. He madeven, 544 00:26:54,613 --> 00:26:57,093 Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl two years ago, made it last year, 545 00:26:57,093 --> 00:27:00,453 Speaker 1: but they really haven't looked like the Chiefs of the 546 00:27:00,493 --> 00:27:04,853 Speaker 1: first two Super Bowls. They really haven't looked like that 547 00:27:05,213 --> 00:27:07,693 Speaker 1: since then. But there's I think the last two weeks 548 00:27:07,693 --> 00:27:10,853 Speaker 1: they have and today was maybe the one that was 549 00:27:10,893 --> 00:27:13,133 Speaker 1: the most impressive to me. I mean, it felt like 550 00:27:13,253 --> 00:27:16,253 Speaker 1: they could have scored forty five and obviously if they 551 00:27:16,333 --> 00:27:19,133 Speaker 1: kept Mahomes in the game, the Raiders had no answer. 552 00:27:20,093 --> 00:27:23,333 Speaker 1: You know, I ranked them last week number one, as 553 00:27:23,373 --> 00:27:25,933 Speaker 1: did you. I kind of feel more confident about that 554 00:27:26,013 --> 00:27:27,413 Speaker 1: today than I did before. 555 00:27:28,573 --> 00:27:31,453 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess you could. Nothing changed for me really 556 00:27:32,653 --> 00:27:34,693 Speaker 2: being the Raiders. The Raiders look so bad. At one 557 00:27:34,693 --> 00:27:36,372 Speaker 2: point we had Kenny Pickett in. I don't know if 558 00:27:36,373 --> 00:27:40,173 Speaker 2: you saw that, Kinny picnict Picket literally took a snap 559 00:27:40,293 --> 00:27:42,093 Speaker 2: his first snap as a Raider and fumbled it and 560 00:27:42,173 --> 00:27:42,693 Speaker 2: Chiefs recover. 561 00:27:42,733 --> 00:27:44,933 Speaker 1: It's one of those days, so it happens. 562 00:27:45,093 --> 00:27:47,693 Speaker 2: I still wonder about the Chiefs defense a little bit. 563 00:27:48,053 --> 00:27:50,013 Speaker 2: Chris Jones had a fun moment that went viral on 564 00:27:50,053 --> 00:27:51,893 Speaker 2: the sideline today. I don't know if you saw that too. 565 00:27:52,213 --> 00:27:55,413 Speaker 2: He was having a good time. But just a blowout 566 00:27:55,413 --> 00:27:57,693 Speaker 2: win for them and they're so back, not that they. 567 00:27:57,533 --> 00:28:02,173 Speaker 1: Were left thirty first downs for the Chiefs today. The 568 00:28:02,253 --> 00:28:05,453 Speaker 1: Raiders only had thirty plays. That is one of the 569 00:28:05,493 --> 00:28:09,053 Speaker 1: more amazing statistics that I can ever remember in a game. 570 00:28:09,133 --> 00:28:14,253 Speaker 1: Thirty first downs to thirty plays Romo. I think the 571 00:28:14,293 --> 00:28:17,093 Speaker 1: most viral moment of the game, though, is Patrick Mahomes, 572 00:28:17,373 --> 00:28:20,773 Speaker 1: who they go to do the thing which he's right 573 00:28:21,173 --> 00:28:23,893 Speaker 1: never works, which is where you try to draw the 574 00:28:23,933 --> 00:28:28,133 Speaker 1: people off sides and do the hard count. He does it. 575 00:28:28,733 --> 00:28:32,413 Speaker 1: You hear him over the broadcast curse, did they have 576 00:28:32,453 --> 00:28:35,213 Speaker 1: a microphone on Mahomes? How in the world did that? 577 00:28:35,413 --> 00:28:37,013 Speaker 1: How in the world was that so loud? 578 00:28:37,853 --> 00:28:39,413 Speaker 2: Yeah, that seemed like it was part of the bit. 579 00:28:39,493 --> 00:28:41,813 Speaker 2: It was so loud. He says, I hate this. Never 580 00:28:42,013 --> 00:28:43,173 Speaker 2: bleeping works. 581 00:28:43,453 --> 00:28:45,613 Speaker 1: And it never really and so Romo's like, oh, it 582 00:28:45,653 --> 00:28:47,693 Speaker 1: doesn't work, and then he fakes him out and they 583 00:28:47,693 --> 00:28:50,813 Speaker 1: actually run the play and they get the first down. 584 00:28:51,213 --> 00:28:53,573 Speaker 1: First of all, Amy Reid is brilliant. I love that 585 00:28:53,773 --> 00:28:55,253 Speaker 1: entire sequence just. 586 00:28:55,213 --> 00:28:58,853 Speaker 2: Shows they're just toying people now, having so much fun 587 00:28:58,893 --> 00:29:01,853 Speaker 2: out there. But that one the Raiders really it truly 588 00:29:01,893 --> 00:29:03,773 Speaker 2: fooled him because you can see their defense kind of 589 00:29:03,773 --> 00:29:05,453 Speaker 2: stand up, like they're thinking, you know, to go on 590 00:29:05,533 --> 00:29:07,373 Speaker 2: and punter. What ever, But I've pulled it off. 591 00:29:07,693 --> 00:29:08,293 Speaker 1: It's a regular. 592 00:29:09,133 --> 00:29:11,093 Speaker 2: Ashton Gentz is having a great year. He ran the 593 00:29:11,093 --> 00:29:14,333 Speaker 2: ball six times today. Like they're just wasting that guy. 594 00:29:14,373 --> 00:29:15,893 Speaker 2: He's having a rookie season. 595 00:29:16,373 --> 00:29:21,173 Speaker 1: I genuinely believe if you're not a good team, then 596 00:29:21,253 --> 00:29:23,773 Speaker 1: you shouldn't be allowed to have good running backs because 597 00:29:23,813 --> 00:29:26,133 Speaker 1: we we we we have no idea if ashion gent 598 00:29:26,333 --> 00:29:28,173 Speaker 1: is good. I mean, we just have no idea. And 599 00:29:28,573 --> 00:29:33,893 Speaker 1: he he really is wasted on a bad team. It 600 00:29:33,973 --> 00:29:36,813 Speaker 1: should be a rule that teams that are bad should 601 00:29:36,853 --> 00:29:39,813 Speaker 1: not be able to to draft first round running backs 602 00:29:39,813 --> 00:29:42,653 Speaker 1: because because it is a complete waste. He is the 603 00:29:42,693 --> 00:29:45,573 Speaker 1: biggest waste of a player and it's not his fall. 604 00:29:46,053 --> 00:29:47,733 Speaker 1: But if you don't have the offensive line, it's not 605 00:29:47,773 --> 00:29:48,333 Speaker 1: gonna matter. 606 00:29:48,693 --> 00:29:50,853 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got a guy who could be special, it 607 00:29:50,933 --> 00:29:53,413 Speaker 2: could be Rookie of the year. But then there that 608 00:29:53,493 --> 00:29:56,053 Speaker 2: offense is also invested in Gino and Pete, who need 609 00:29:56,093 --> 00:29:57,693 Speaker 2: to hang it up. That's showing that that's not working 610 00:29:57,693 --> 00:29:58,293 Speaker 2: out for those two. 611 00:29:59,413 --> 00:30:02,613 Speaker 1: Yeah, harsh to Gino. I love you. I like Gino. 612 00:30:02,693 --> 00:30:03,613 Speaker 1: Ain't gonna be so mean. 613 00:30:04,053 --> 00:30:16,453 Speaker 4: Rough year for Gino. 614 00:30:19,293 --> 00:30:23,133 Speaker 1: The Browns beat the Dolphins thirty one to six, forty 615 00:30:23,253 --> 00:30:26,813 Speaker 1: mile an hour wins in Cleveland. I think we've learned 616 00:30:26,853 --> 00:30:29,373 Speaker 1: that's probably where they play the best, best game for 617 00:30:29,453 --> 00:30:33,373 Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel. In those thirty mile an hour wins. Cleveland 618 00:30:33,413 --> 00:30:37,493 Speaker 1: had not scored more than seventeen points in the last 619 00:30:37,533 --> 00:30:41,373 Speaker 1: eleven games. It had been what'd you say since nineteen 620 00:30:41,573 --> 00:30:45,133 Speaker 1: seventy or something that was a different stat but eleven 621 00:30:45,413 --> 00:30:48,453 Speaker 1: straight games where they had not scored seventeen. They score 622 00:30:48,533 --> 00:30:51,213 Speaker 1: thirty one today in the worst whether they've played in 623 00:30:51,333 --> 00:30:54,813 Speaker 1: throughout the whole thing. Probably more of an indictment on 624 00:30:54,853 --> 00:30:58,573 Speaker 1: the Dolphins. By the time people listen to this Monday morning, 625 00:30:58,613 --> 00:31:00,453 Speaker 1: Will Mike McDaniel still be the coach? 626 00:31:01,813 --> 00:31:03,813 Speaker 2: This is the third straight Sunday who done this? How 627 00:31:03,893 --> 00:31:05,573 Speaker 2: is he still here now? 628 00:31:05,613 --> 00:31:08,973 Speaker 1: He said it, He said he's not focused on his job. Quote, 629 00:31:09,013 --> 00:31:12,533 Speaker 1: I'm focused on my team. Maybe he should be focused 630 00:31:12,573 --> 00:31:13,093 Speaker 1: on his job. 631 00:31:13,893 --> 00:31:16,853 Speaker 2: Yeah, this has to be the nail on the coffin. 632 00:31:17,053 --> 00:31:19,493 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what he could do anyway 633 00:31:19,533 --> 00:31:22,133 Speaker 2: with two is looking like the worst quarterback in the league. 634 00:31:22,213 --> 00:31:25,253 Speaker 2: He has hit another three turnover game. It's his third 635 00:31:25,733 --> 00:31:28,973 Speaker 2: three turnover game this season, which is outrageous. So Mike 636 00:31:29,053 --> 00:31:31,213 Speaker 2: McDaniel doesn't have much help, but I don't think there's 637 00:31:31,293 --> 00:31:33,453 Speaker 2: much much time you can keep in there any longer. 638 00:31:33,893 --> 00:31:40,373 Speaker 1: Yeah, two was particularly awful, especially after the Latin comments 639 00:31:40,493 --> 00:31:43,253 Speaker 1: last week about leadership and all that. I think you 640 00:31:44,453 --> 00:31:46,813 Speaker 1: I expected him to play a little better, and he 641 00:31:46,973 --> 00:31:49,933 Speaker 1: was really really bad, and the Browns defense got to 642 00:31:49,973 --> 00:31:53,733 Speaker 1: the quarterback a lot. I think they're completely in quip mode. 643 00:31:53,773 --> 00:31:55,693 Speaker 1: And if I think you have to get rid of 644 00:31:55,693 --> 00:31:57,893 Speaker 1: Mike and Daniel if you just want to like Salvage 645 00:31:57,933 --> 00:32:02,093 Speaker 1: having a decent year bigger picture, I kind of wonder 646 00:32:02,133 --> 00:32:04,893 Speaker 1: if two is the quarterback in Miami. I mean they're 647 00:32:04,893 --> 00:32:07,173 Speaker 1: gonna end up getting a high pitch. I mean you're 648 00:32:07,173 --> 00:32:10,453 Speaker 1: probably drafting his replacement, right, Yeah, you have to. I 649 00:32:10,493 --> 00:32:12,693 Speaker 1: mean quinn Ewers came in the game, took over and 650 00:32:12,693 --> 00:32:15,533 Speaker 1: looked better than Ta today. So I think the Tua 651 00:32:15,613 --> 00:32:17,573 Speaker 1: area is over and that's probably good for Tua. Go 652 00:32:17,693 --> 00:32:20,253 Speaker 1: enjoy retirement to It was fun to watch you for 653 00:32:20,293 --> 00:32:23,333 Speaker 1: a long time, but it's he seemed to have lost it. Yeah, 654 00:32:23,453 --> 00:32:27,413 Speaker 1: I think that's unfortunate, but you're probably right. I'll as 655 00:32:27,453 --> 00:32:29,613 Speaker 1: I seem to do every week. Let me hand the 656 00:32:29,613 --> 00:32:34,413 Speaker 1: floor to you. Patriots, thirty one Titans thirteen, your former 657 00:32:34,453 --> 00:32:38,333 Speaker 1: coach Mike Rabil comes back to Nashville. Did you find 658 00:32:38,373 --> 00:32:39,693 Speaker 1: yourself pulling for the old guy? 659 00:32:40,973 --> 00:32:41,093 Speaker 4: Uh. 660 00:32:42,053 --> 00:32:44,293 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say pulling for him, but it was the 661 00:32:44,693 --> 00:32:48,293 Speaker 2: outcome I expected. Titans actually jumped up early. I was 662 00:32:48,333 --> 00:32:51,253 Speaker 2: surprised got an early. Phil Golden went up ten to three. 663 00:32:51,653 --> 00:32:54,933 Speaker 2: I actually started talking myself into our new coach, Mike McCoy. 664 00:32:55,213 --> 00:32:57,733 Speaker 2: If even told you in the past, my old Peloton. 665 00:32:57,373 --> 00:32:59,293 Speaker 1: Name Mike McCoy, Yeah, well. 666 00:32:59,133 --> 00:33:01,533 Speaker 2: My old Peloton name was Bike Vrabel. I thought about 667 00:33:01,533 --> 00:33:03,853 Speaker 2: fired up Bike McCoy. I was so excited there for 668 00:33:03,933 --> 00:33:07,053 Speaker 2: a quarter. But then the Titans became the Titan. I 669 00:33:07,093 --> 00:33:10,133 Speaker 2: mean they lost Big jeff Jeffrey Simmons, the one player 670 00:33:10,173 --> 00:33:12,093 Speaker 2: that can do anything. He got hurting. At that point, 671 00:33:12,213 --> 00:33:13,573 Speaker 2: the Patriots did whatever they wanted. 672 00:33:15,333 --> 00:33:18,453 Speaker 1: What about What about Drake May I mean there was 673 00:33:18,493 --> 00:33:20,293 Speaker 1: a time where it looked like he was like looking 674 00:33:20,333 --> 00:33:24,933 Speaker 1: at a potential percentage record. He was twenty one of 675 00:33:25,053 --> 00:33:28,533 Speaker 1: twenty three. I mean, are we seeing him hit? We 676 00:33:28,613 --> 00:33:30,333 Speaker 1: talked about this last couple of weeks, but are we 677 00:33:30,333 --> 00:33:34,813 Speaker 1: seeing him kind of hit like superstar status? Yeah? 678 00:33:34,853 --> 00:33:38,493 Speaker 2: I think so. I saw a good graphic today comparing 679 00:33:38,533 --> 00:33:41,173 Speaker 2: his stats last year. In the turnaround he's had, it's 680 00:33:41,333 --> 00:33:45,133 Speaker 2: really incredible. He made some great throws today, hit a 681 00:33:45,173 --> 00:33:47,733 Speaker 2: long TD that really separated the game. While on the 682 00:33:47,733 --> 00:33:50,293 Speaker 2: other side, I've got cam Ward, first year guy that 683 00:33:50,373 --> 00:33:52,813 Speaker 2: I hope could make that stuff like Drake May, but 684 00:33:52,933 --> 00:33:56,213 Speaker 2: he's backpedaling and fumbling for a scoop and score, looking 685 00:33:56,253 --> 00:33:57,973 Speaker 2: like he couldn't tie his shoes. So it was just 686 00:33:58,013 --> 00:34:00,853 Speaker 2: all systems failure. After we got up ten three in 687 00:34:00,853 --> 00:34:01,933 Speaker 2: that game, had a little. 688 00:34:01,693 --> 00:34:05,333 Speaker 1: Bit of hope. Are you giving up on on cam Ward? 689 00:34:05,373 --> 00:34:09,293 Speaker 1: I mean, are you seeing any signs that of positivity 690 00:34:09,373 --> 00:34:11,013 Speaker 1: or are you starting to question it? 691 00:34:11,013 --> 00:34:13,373 Speaker 2: It's it's the same thing with Will Levis. It's the 692 00:34:13,373 --> 00:34:16,613 Speaker 2: same thing with whoever is after him. The entire operation 693 00:34:16,933 --> 00:34:19,452 Speaker 2: is so bad they cannot expect anyone to be good 694 00:34:19,493 --> 00:34:22,732 Speaker 2: in that position. So sometimes when you see these sloppy turnovers, 695 00:34:22,772 --> 00:34:25,212 Speaker 2: remember our guy Levis, you know he had some. He 696 00:34:25,292 --> 00:34:27,212 Speaker 2: became a meme last year trying to throw it out. 697 00:34:27,212 --> 00:34:29,372 Speaker 2: He's going down a few times. I think they get 698 00:34:29,413 --> 00:34:31,452 Speaker 2: to desperation where they're just trying to make plays because 699 00:34:31,493 --> 00:34:33,453 Speaker 2: the offense is so bad. So it's really hard to 700 00:34:33,533 --> 00:34:34,133 Speaker 2: judge any of them. 701 00:34:34,172 --> 00:34:35,812 Speaker 1: Well, and this is the third straight guy who was 702 00:34:35,852 --> 00:34:40,133 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks from Liberty. Uh what was his name before? 703 00:34:40,172 --> 00:34:42,533 Speaker 1: The one before Levis? That led us? 704 00:34:42,933 --> 00:34:44,892 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Yeah, I went to the Packers. Why 705 00:34:44,893 --> 00:34:45,652 Speaker 2: am I drawing to Blake? 706 00:34:45,893 --> 00:34:46,093 Speaker 1: Yeah? 707 00:34:46,093 --> 00:34:47,813 Speaker 2: He was our big draft pick. He was our future 708 00:34:47,973 --> 00:34:48,892 Speaker 2: Milik Willis. 709 00:34:48,772 --> 00:34:51,533 Speaker 1: Yeah, Blake Yeah. So I mean you've had three straight 710 00:34:51,573 --> 00:34:53,652 Speaker 1: of these guys at some point, maybe it's not their fall. 711 00:34:54,493 --> 00:34:56,452 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Willis was supposed to be it. 712 00:34:57,692 --> 00:35:02,013 Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike Rabel, they didn't honor him. What do you think. 713 00:35:03,292 --> 00:35:07,732 Speaker 2: The crowd honored him there? The Fray chants were very, 714 00:35:07,852 --> 00:35:10,053 Speaker 2: very lowed through the TV is, mostly at the end 715 00:35:10,053 --> 00:35:12,332 Speaker 2: of the game as he was leaving. But he got 716 00:35:12,372 --> 00:35:15,013 Speaker 2: a lot of love from the hometown crowd. Not surprised 717 00:35:15,013 --> 00:35:17,532 Speaker 2: that the organization didn't honor him with the way that ended, 718 00:35:17,573 --> 00:35:19,613 Speaker 2: but Nashville let him know that he's loved. 719 00:35:20,372 --> 00:35:22,932 Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw when he came out, he just kept 720 00:35:22,973 --> 00:35:27,332 Speaker 1: shaking everybody's hand and he was getting much I think 721 00:35:27,413 --> 00:35:29,652 Speaker 1: more people in the stadium were cheering by first of all, 722 00:35:29,652 --> 00:35:31,573 Speaker 1: how many people even knew who Mike McCoy was when 723 00:35:31,573 --> 00:35:32,932 Speaker 1: he walked out. I mean, do you think any of 724 00:35:32,973 --> 00:35:36,892 Speaker 1: the any of the fans even recognized who their coach was. 725 00:35:38,093 --> 00:35:39,892 Speaker 1: God had to be a cool moment for Brabell. You 726 00:35:39,933 --> 00:35:44,052 Speaker 1: always liked seeing the coach return to the place where 727 00:35:44,053 --> 00:35:45,732 Speaker 1: he did, where he won. As a matter of fact, 728 00:35:46,133 --> 00:35:50,773 Speaker 1: that happened for a defensive coordinator as well. Dennis Allen 729 00:35:50,852 --> 00:35:54,293 Speaker 1: for the Bears was able to get the victory against 730 00:35:54,332 --> 00:35:56,813 Speaker 1: the Saints, even though it was at home. The Bears 731 00:35:56,812 --> 00:35:59,093 Speaker 1: win twenty six to fourteen. They kind of were rolling 732 00:35:59,172 --> 00:36:01,533 Speaker 1: throughout most of the game, led twenty to nothing at 733 00:36:01,533 --> 00:36:04,013 Speaker 1: one point, but then the Saints make at twenty fourteen. 734 00:36:04,613 --> 00:36:08,172 Speaker 1: I start to get nervous, but the Bears defense bears down. 735 00:36:08,212 --> 00:36:11,453 Speaker 1: And now Caleb Williams has played multiple good games in 736 00:36:11,453 --> 00:36:14,572 Speaker 1: a row. Bears are four and two. Are you on 737 00:36:14,613 --> 00:36:15,412 Speaker 1: my Bears train? 738 00:36:16,212 --> 00:36:19,093 Speaker 2: I'm believing they got the young offensive talent. Was this 739 00:36:19,453 --> 00:36:21,532 Speaker 2: four wins in a row, four wins in a row, 740 00:36:22,252 --> 00:36:24,412 Speaker 2: should have won that week one game close there? 741 00:36:24,493 --> 00:36:25,732 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a believer. 742 00:36:26,413 --> 00:36:29,133 Speaker 2: I've even poked fun at you about Caleb Williams in 743 00:36:29,172 --> 00:36:31,852 Speaker 2: the past, thinking he's not the answer. But even though 744 00:36:31,893 --> 00:36:33,572 Speaker 2: it wasn't the best version of him today is still 745 00:36:33,573 --> 00:36:35,012 Speaker 2: a big win, and they're hot right now. 746 00:36:35,772 --> 00:36:39,732 Speaker 1: Yeah, I really like what I see. I think he 747 00:36:40,053 --> 00:36:43,252 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson's made such you could see flashes last year 748 00:36:43,973 --> 00:36:47,053 Speaker 1: that Caleb could play. But I love the decision making 749 00:36:47,093 --> 00:36:49,452 Speaker 1: and I love the creativity in the way they use him. 750 00:36:49,493 --> 00:36:53,493 Speaker 1: I think they use him absolutely perfectly, and it's nice 751 00:36:53,533 --> 00:36:57,013 Speaker 1: to have. It's nice to watch Chicago fans with hope. 752 00:36:57,053 --> 00:37:00,212 Speaker 1: I think the Bears fans have been sort of not 753 00:37:00,493 --> 00:37:03,332 Speaker 1: down for so long that they almost didn't believe that 754 00:37:03,372 --> 00:37:06,052 Speaker 1: this would work with Caleb, and I think it had. 755 00:37:07,133 --> 00:37:09,492 Speaker 1: And the Saints like they continue I mean they're one 756 00:37:09,573 --> 00:37:12,892 Speaker 1: in six or whatever, but they continue to be competitive 757 00:37:12,893 --> 00:37:16,253 Speaker 1: in these games. Chris Olave had a big game today 758 00:37:16,332 --> 00:37:18,412 Speaker 1: as well. I still think the Saints are going to 759 00:37:18,493 --> 00:37:20,892 Speaker 1: beat somebody at some point this year that it's going 760 00:37:20,973 --> 00:37:23,412 Speaker 1: to be a big loss for that team because of 761 00:37:23,493 --> 00:37:26,172 Speaker 1: the bad teams. I mean, they're much better than the Titans, 762 00:37:26,172 --> 00:37:28,493 Speaker 1: They're much better than the Jets, They're much better than 763 00:37:28,533 --> 00:37:31,533 Speaker 1: the Dolphins. I actually think they're the sneaky good bad 764 00:37:31,573 --> 00:37:32,333 Speaker 1: team this year. 765 00:37:33,172 --> 00:37:35,732 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Olave has been great. I don't know if 766 00:37:36,133 --> 00:37:38,452 Speaker 2: they wanted to use him as a trade piece at 767 00:37:38,453 --> 00:37:40,412 Speaker 2: some point or something. But he's another guy just being 768 00:37:40,453 --> 00:37:42,212 Speaker 2: wasted on a great team or on a bad team 769 00:37:42,212 --> 00:37:42,892 Speaker 2: because he's great. 770 00:37:43,172 --> 00:37:43,573 Speaker 1: I saw it. 771 00:37:43,933 --> 00:37:45,852 Speaker 2: Even though they've been close and knocking on doors. It 772 00:37:45,893 --> 00:37:48,892 Speaker 2: is their worst start since nineteen ninety nine, So it's 773 00:37:49,212 --> 00:37:51,652 Speaker 2: bad times down there in New Orleans to start the season. 774 00:37:52,613 --> 00:37:54,332 Speaker 2: Spencer Ratler got hot there for a while, but I 775 00:37:54,413 --> 00:37:55,412 Speaker 2: think he cooled off for us. 776 00:37:55,933 --> 00:37:58,332 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's actually I don't think Spencer Rattler is all 777 00:37:58,372 --> 00:38:00,573 Speaker 1: that bad either. Again, compared to some of these other 778 00:38:00,652 --> 00:38:03,652 Speaker 1: bad quarterbacks that are playing, I actually don't think he 779 00:38:03,772 --> 00:38:06,613 Speaker 1: is as bad as a lot of those guys Panthers 780 00:38:06,613 --> 00:38:10,652 Speaker 1: and the Jets. You know, when you see Panthers and Jats, 781 00:38:11,812 --> 00:38:13,692 Speaker 1: first of all, you know what you're in for. But 782 00:38:13,772 --> 00:38:15,212 Speaker 1: I don't think you knew you were going to be 783 00:38:15,252 --> 00:38:17,812 Speaker 1: in for the sound quality they had. It sounded like 784 00:38:17,893 --> 00:38:22,492 Speaker 1: an old school AM radio broadcast of a church in 785 00:38:22,613 --> 00:38:26,732 Speaker 1: rural West Virginia. They said they were underwater, they had 786 00:38:26,772 --> 00:38:29,412 Speaker 1: some sort of technical issue. I kind of loved it. 787 00:38:29,453 --> 00:38:31,973 Speaker 1: I felt like I was watching a game on local 788 00:38:32,093 --> 00:38:34,252 Speaker 1: broadcast television in the seventies. 789 00:38:34,292 --> 00:38:37,093 Speaker 2: How about the Panthers Now above five hundred, they're win 790 00:38:37,172 --> 00:38:40,252 Speaker 2: a big time and I saw poor mew Mix. They 791 00:38:40,292 --> 00:38:43,332 Speaker 2: shut down meow Mix and the Panthers are three and oh. 792 00:38:43,692 --> 00:38:46,092 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought this up. I want I wanted 793 00:38:46,133 --> 00:38:48,252 Speaker 1: to talk about meow Mix. First of all, if you 794 00:38:48,252 --> 00:38:51,133 Speaker 1: remember a few weeks ago we talked about the Panthers podcast, 795 00:38:51,212 --> 00:38:55,573 Speaker 1: meow Mix decided randomly after week four of the season 796 00:38:55,613 --> 00:38:58,773 Speaker 1: to quit. Weird time to quit three or four weeks 797 00:38:58,812 --> 00:39:01,933 Speaker 1: into the season. I think the Panthers have turned it 798 00:39:01,973 --> 00:39:05,013 Speaker 1: around in honor of mew Mix. And I want to 799 00:39:05,013 --> 00:39:07,292 Speaker 1: say to the people who run me we have been 800 00:39:07,292 --> 00:39:09,292 Speaker 1: trying to get in touch with you. I've been trying 801 00:39:09,292 --> 00:39:11,452 Speaker 1: to get in touch with We've had the NFL trying 802 00:39:11,453 --> 00:39:14,252 Speaker 1: to get in touch with you. Meow Mix is now 803 00:39:14,292 --> 00:39:19,732 Speaker 1: officially in What happened to them? Are they being held hostage? 804 00:39:20,172 --> 00:39:23,772 Speaker 1: Where is meo Mix? And what? And now they don't 805 00:39:23,812 --> 00:39:26,172 Speaker 1: get to celebrate. What is a Panthers turnaround? 806 00:39:26,692 --> 00:39:28,932 Speaker 2: No, they're they're doing what they have to do. They're 807 00:39:28,973 --> 00:39:31,852 Speaker 2: taking one for the team. If they come back and 808 00:39:31,893 --> 00:39:34,372 Speaker 2: then the Panthers lose, the fan base will kill them. 809 00:39:34,573 --> 00:39:37,212 Speaker 2: So they just have to stay hidden. The Panthers are 810 00:39:37,212 --> 00:39:39,572 Speaker 2: three and oh. Since they've been gone, there's no way 811 00:39:39,652 --> 00:39:41,252 Speaker 2: they can come out now. They have to stay quiet 812 00:39:41,292 --> 00:39:44,693 Speaker 2: forever because they're they're stepping away. Actually worked, and I'm looking. 813 00:39:44,893 --> 00:39:46,852 Speaker 2: I don't know many Titans podcasts, but if there's a 814 00:39:46,852 --> 00:39:49,172 Speaker 2: Titans podcast out there, I need you to unplug and 815 00:39:49,292 --> 00:39:49,652 Speaker 2: go away. 816 00:39:50,692 --> 00:39:51,533 Speaker 1: Its gonna work for us. 817 00:39:51,613 --> 00:39:53,332 Speaker 2: Maybe we'll string off three wins in a row. 818 00:39:53,413 --> 00:39:55,212 Speaker 1: You did get a moment today where it was Andy 819 00:39:55,292 --> 00:39:58,932 Speaker 1: Dalton versus Tyrod Taylor. I think that is. Actually it 820 00:39:59,013 --> 00:40:01,933 Speaker 1: is twenty twenty five and we had an Andy Dalton 821 00:40:01,973 --> 00:40:05,573 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor game. I think that in and of itself 822 00:40:05,812 --> 00:40:06,932 Speaker 1: should he celebrated. 823 00:40:07,372 --> 00:40:10,093 Speaker 2: Imagine you weren't watching the game to see, you know, 824 00:40:10,172 --> 00:40:12,252 Speaker 2: Fields get pulled and keep it up with things, and 825 00:40:12,292 --> 00:40:14,652 Speaker 2: you just happen to be scrolling through and Tyrod Taylor's 826 00:40:14,692 --> 00:40:18,293 Speaker 2: throwing against Andy Dalton on your television with bad solid quality. 827 00:40:19,772 --> 00:40:21,452 Speaker 1: Exactly well, you would have thought it might have been 828 00:40:21,453 --> 00:40:23,493 Speaker 1: a game from two thousand and six, and you just 829 00:40:23,613 --> 00:40:28,172 Speaker 1: happen to have turned it on. But yeah, it's exactly right. 830 00:40:28,252 --> 00:40:31,613 Speaker 1: You are looking live at an empty Jets stadium for 831 00:40:32,453 --> 00:40:35,933 Speaker 1: Panthers versus Jets. Justin Fields, by the way gets benched. 832 00:40:36,372 --> 00:40:38,812 Speaker 1: Is his time done now? Maybe his time as a 833 00:40:38,893 --> 00:40:42,172 Speaker 1: quarterback period. I mean he's now had kind of three 834 00:40:42,252 --> 00:40:44,733 Speaker 1: failed opportunities in a row. You do kind of wonder 835 00:40:44,732 --> 00:40:47,772 Speaker 1: if maybe today was one of the last two ros 836 00:40:47,772 --> 00:40:49,133 Speaker 1: for Justin Fields period. 837 00:40:49,573 --> 00:40:52,213 Speaker 2: I think that was it. I mean he's looked bad 838 00:40:52,453 --> 00:40:54,492 Speaker 2: all year. I mean a couple of times he's made 839 00:40:54,493 --> 00:40:56,532 Speaker 2: some plays with the speed, but he just can't see 840 00:40:56,533 --> 00:40:58,372 Speaker 2: the pass rusher of Buetz coming at him. 841 00:40:58,772 --> 00:41:01,772 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you fail with a with the Mayors and 842 00:41:01,812 --> 00:41:03,892 Speaker 1: Steelers and the Jets when you're one and six and 843 00:41:03,893 --> 00:41:06,973 Speaker 1: you're getting benched for Tyrod Taylor has been in the 844 00:41:07,013 --> 00:41:10,812 Speaker 1: league forever. Probably not the best side, No, no, no, 845 00:41:25,252 --> 00:41:28,772 Speaker 1: Probably the most impressive result of the day. The Colts 846 00:41:29,332 --> 00:41:33,772 Speaker 1: go to the Chargers thirty eight twenty four, a huge winn, 847 00:41:33,772 --> 00:41:37,692 Speaker 1: and they were up big the entire game. Daniel Jones. 848 00:41:38,852 --> 00:41:41,053 Speaker 1: At this point, you have to say it's real, right, Like, 849 00:41:41,093 --> 00:41:43,733 Speaker 1: it's not a fluke. When they're six and one, they've 850 00:41:43,772 --> 00:41:46,772 Speaker 1: got the most wins in the NFL, they would be 851 00:41:46,933 --> 00:41:50,772 Speaker 1: the AFC home field advantage, and they're winning games on 852 00:41:50,812 --> 00:41:53,732 Speaker 1: the road like this, definitively, it's not a fluke anymore. 853 00:41:53,852 --> 00:41:57,212 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones said. The meat clearly the media didn't know 854 00:41:57,372 --> 00:41:59,613 Speaker 1: because they don't know anything about football and saying they 855 00:41:59,613 --> 00:42:01,453 Speaker 1: weren't going to be good. I don't know how anybody 856 00:42:01,453 --> 00:42:05,332 Speaker 1: could have predicted this. You're officially impressed. 857 00:42:04,893 --> 00:42:07,452 Speaker 2: Right, Oh yeah, actually been impressed a couple of weeks 858 00:42:07,453 --> 00:42:09,453 Speaker 2: because the teams are beating Art Flukes. So they're not 859 00:42:09,573 --> 00:42:11,932 Speaker 2: just out there beating the Jets and the Dolphins. They're 860 00:42:11,973 --> 00:42:14,892 Speaker 2: beating good teams. They're not turning the ball over. I mean, 861 00:42:14,933 --> 00:42:17,052 Speaker 2: they've had that stat They went three weeks to start 862 00:42:17,053 --> 00:42:18,892 Speaker 2: the season without turning the ball over. He didn't have 863 00:42:18,933 --> 00:42:21,773 Speaker 2: any today, and then his running back, oh, just another 864 00:42:21,812 --> 00:42:25,412 Speaker 2: three touchdown days. So the Colts are for real. It's 865 00:42:25,453 --> 00:42:26,852 Speaker 2: crazy to say they could be the best team in 866 00:42:26,852 --> 00:42:28,692 Speaker 2: the NFL, but they literally have the best record. 867 00:42:29,292 --> 00:42:33,932 Speaker 1: Are Yeah, I mean I don't think they certainly, they 868 00:42:33,973 --> 00:42:36,772 Speaker 1: certainly impressed me today. I had that game on a 869 00:42:36,812 --> 00:42:40,412 Speaker 1: lot of the time, and even though Justin Herbert had 870 00:42:41,093 --> 00:42:43,493 Speaker 1: four hundred and twenty yards, right, so that looks like 871 00:42:43,533 --> 00:42:47,613 Speaker 1: an amazing game. I feel like the Colts were on 872 00:42:47,732 --> 00:42:49,852 Speaker 1: him the entire game. I mean, part of the reason 873 00:42:49,852 --> 00:42:51,453 Speaker 1: he had four hundred and twenty yards. They were playing 874 00:42:51,453 --> 00:42:54,892 Speaker 1: from behind the entire game, so he had to throw. 875 00:42:55,013 --> 00:42:58,613 Speaker 1: But the amount of pass rush that team gets is unbelievable. 876 00:42:58,652 --> 00:43:00,252 Speaker 1: Herbart got beat up. I mean, I don't know what 877 00:43:00,292 --> 00:43:04,212 Speaker 1: his final total of sacks he took was, but he 878 00:43:04,332 --> 00:43:07,972 Speaker 1: got hit an un believable amount of times. And you 879 00:43:08,053 --> 00:43:13,492 Speaker 1: show that defense with Jonathan Taylor and Daniel Jones. I mean, 880 00:43:13,533 --> 00:43:15,772 Speaker 1: I keep waiting for the other shoe to fall, But 881 00:43:15,852 --> 00:43:18,452 Speaker 1: I don't know, Drew, maybe it's not gonna happen. Maybe 882 00:43:18,493 --> 00:43:19,933 Speaker 1: all you had to do was get rid of Anthony 883 00:43:20,013 --> 00:43:22,452 Speaker 1: Richardson and you have a good team. Yeah. 884 00:43:22,493 --> 00:43:24,652 Speaker 2: I think the Colts are for real, and I think 885 00:43:24,692 --> 00:43:28,052 Speaker 2: the Chargers can still get back to play better. They've 886 00:43:28,053 --> 00:43:30,373 Speaker 2: lost three or four, but as you mentioned, that offensive 887 00:43:30,372 --> 00:43:32,533 Speaker 2: line is so bad. I don't know what they can 888 00:43:32,573 --> 00:43:34,492 Speaker 2: do to go out and find help. But they have 889 00:43:34,573 --> 00:43:36,332 Speaker 2: to go out and get help on the offensive line 890 00:43:36,332 --> 00:43:38,133 Speaker 2: because the moment all got hurt a few weeks ago, 891 00:43:38,172 --> 00:43:40,852 Speaker 2: and they have a few others. His stats have been 892 00:43:40,933 --> 00:43:45,053 Speaker 2: like he's has the most pressure, sacks, hits everything. I mean, 893 00:43:45,093 --> 00:43:47,133 Speaker 2: he's just getting absolutely killed and running for his life 894 00:43:47,133 --> 00:43:48,493 Speaker 2: these last three or four weeks. 895 00:43:48,772 --> 00:43:52,092 Speaker 1: I do want to note on a crowd shot during 896 00:43:52,133 --> 00:43:55,093 Speaker 1: the game, they showed someone in the Chargers crowd and 897 00:43:55,172 --> 00:43:57,973 Speaker 1: they had a sign and here's all that The sign 898 00:43:58,093 --> 00:44:03,412 Speaker 1: said fun. That was it. It just said fun. He 899 00:44:03,493 --> 00:44:07,012 Speaker 1: didn't say let's have fun. It didn't say having fun. 900 00:44:07,292 --> 00:44:10,573 Speaker 1: It just said the word fun. And I was sitting 901 00:44:10,613 --> 00:44:14,573 Speaker 1: there thinking, what is the mindset that leads somebody to 902 00:44:14,692 --> 00:44:17,613 Speaker 1: bring a sign it was hand painted to the game 903 00:44:18,053 --> 00:44:21,892 Speaker 1: that just says fun? What can you What is it 904 00:44:21,933 --> 00:44:24,533 Speaker 1: that they could have been thinking. It reminds me of 905 00:44:25,973 --> 00:44:29,613 Speaker 1: many years ago. WWF had a pay per view in 906 00:44:29,652 --> 00:44:34,172 Speaker 1: Cleveland called Invasion, and back then Drew you know this, 907 00:44:34,613 --> 00:44:37,172 Speaker 1: in wrestling, people would try to make the most creative 908 00:44:37,493 --> 00:44:42,492 Speaker 1: or vulgar or like Innuindows signs possible. And my friend 909 00:44:42,573 --> 00:44:45,573 Speaker 1: DJ and I snuck into the fourth row of Invasion 910 00:44:45,812 --> 00:44:48,252 Speaker 1: and we were very excited, and then this woman sitting 911 00:44:48,332 --> 00:44:51,732 Speaker 1: behind us said you don't have tickets here. Those are 912 00:44:51,772 --> 00:44:55,252 Speaker 1: not your tickets. And we were like, oh, they're not, 913 00:44:55,493 --> 00:44:57,452 Speaker 1: but will you not kick us out? And she said, well, 914 00:44:57,493 --> 00:45:00,732 Speaker 1: you're tall only if you hold my sign up in 915 00:45:00,772 --> 00:45:03,613 Speaker 1: the air. So like next to me was a person 916 00:45:03,613 --> 00:45:06,492 Speaker 1: who said who had a sign that was like rock 917 00:45:06,613 --> 00:45:09,692 Speaker 1: bottom my face and the other one was like stone 918 00:45:09,732 --> 00:45:12,933 Speaker 1: cold twenty four to seven, whoop, And I had to 919 00:45:12,973 --> 00:45:16,332 Speaker 1: hold up her stupid sign which was glitter, and all 920 00:45:16,332 --> 00:45:22,053 Speaker 1: it said was invasion. That's all it said, invasion. So 921 00:45:22,133 --> 00:45:25,252 Speaker 1: everyone else had these creative signs, and I was in 922 00:45:25,292 --> 00:45:27,613 Speaker 1: the line of the camera and I'm holding and now 923 00:45:27,613 --> 00:45:31,692 Speaker 1: I'm holding a rainbow glitter sign that just says invasion. 924 00:45:32,573 --> 00:45:34,372 Speaker 1: That's what I thought of today with the first in 925 00:45:34,413 --> 00:45:36,772 Speaker 1: the Chargers just holding up a sign that said fun. 926 00:45:37,292 --> 00:45:39,093 Speaker 2: They were you maybe they were part of a bigger, 927 00:45:39,332 --> 00:45:42,292 Speaker 2: bigger operation. They got separated from the group. It was 928 00:45:42,332 --> 00:45:46,052 Speaker 2: supposed to say Chargers football is fun, but they got 929 00:45:46,093 --> 00:45:48,212 Speaker 2: different tickets and they got lost from the group and 930 00:45:48,252 --> 00:45:49,053 Speaker 2: still went through with it. 931 00:45:49,212 --> 00:45:51,252 Speaker 1: And somebody someone was just holding up a sign as 932 00:45:51,292 --> 00:45:53,013 Speaker 1: it is, that's all it said. 933 00:45:53,613 --> 00:45:56,812 Speaker 2: I went to college game day basketball at Rock many 934 00:45:56,852 --> 00:45:59,012 Speaker 2: years ago. I was in college and they had dry 935 00:45:59,053 --> 00:46:01,692 Speaker 2: erase signs that they passed out to the student section. 936 00:46:02,093 --> 00:46:04,452 Speaker 2: They were part of that real quick. That was bad. 937 00:46:04,613 --> 00:46:05,652 Speaker 1: That's a bad decision. 938 00:46:06,453 --> 00:46:08,332 Speaker 2: They went and took them, passed them all out. They 939 00:46:08,372 --> 00:46:10,173 Speaker 2: went and picked them all right back up about thirty 940 00:46:10,212 --> 00:46:10,772 Speaker 2: minutes later. 941 00:46:11,133 --> 00:46:14,613 Speaker 1: If Emai knows why the sign just said fun, I 942 00:46:14,652 --> 00:46:18,172 Speaker 1: would be fascinated because I've racked my brain all day 943 00:46:18,212 --> 00:46:20,892 Speaker 1: thinking why would a sign just say fun? I still 944 00:46:20,893 --> 00:46:23,932 Speaker 1: don't have the answer. By the way, I thought on 945 00:46:23,973 --> 00:46:25,453 Speaker 1: the camera there, I thought you just pulled out a 946 00:46:25,453 --> 00:46:29,812 Speaker 1: cigarette and started smoking. I was like, no, it's like yet, 947 00:46:30,413 --> 00:46:32,533 Speaker 1: I didn't even know you smoked, and you decided to 948 00:46:32,533 --> 00:46:37,133 Speaker 1: do it tonight at midnight for the podcast Cowboys Commanders 949 00:46:37,692 --> 00:46:42,133 Speaker 1: forty two twenty two. Definitively great performance by the Cowboys. 950 00:46:42,212 --> 00:46:45,332 Speaker 1: Dak was awesome and it is clear George Pickens and 951 00:46:45,372 --> 00:46:48,692 Speaker 1: Cebee Lamb together now that Lamb's back, that is a 952 00:46:49,212 --> 00:46:51,413 Speaker 1: that's impossible duo to defend. 953 00:46:52,252 --> 00:46:55,532 Speaker 2: That offense is pretty dang incredibly. I mean even their 954 00:46:55,573 --> 00:46:58,452 Speaker 2: running back Williams has been good. Tight end Ferguson has 955 00:46:58,453 --> 00:47:01,732 Speaker 2: stepped up Pickens and Lamb. I wonder how they could balance. 956 00:47:02,292 --> 00:47:04,533 Speaker 2: You know, Pickens got a little bit of personality, he 957 00:47:04,573 --> 00:47:07,573 Speaker 2: had problems in Pittsburgh. Turns out this fresh start has 958 00:47:07,613 --> 00:47:10,212 Speaker 2: been great for him. But they are just a nightmare duo. 959 00:47:10,573 --> 00:47:12,292 Speaker 2: And it's not that they're just getting open. I mean 960 00:47:12,332 --> 00:47:15,932 Speaker 2: they're making some toe tapping highlight reel catches throughout the game. 961 00:47:15,973 --> 00:47:17,492 Speaker 2: It was just a fun one to watch as they 962 00:47:17,533 --> 00:47:18,813 Speaker 2: piled on Washington today. 963 00:47:19,252 --> 00:47:22,533 Speaker 1: Some people think act like kickers are offense because I 964 00:47:22,533 --> 00:47:26,012 Speaker 1: guess they're scoring points. Well, that's true, and you throw 965 00:47:26,093 --> 00:47:31,652 Speaker 1: in Aubrey the kicker, the combination of dak lamb Pickens 966 00:47:31,732 --> 00:47:35,012 Speaker 1: and Aubrey. I don't know how many teams have a 967 00:47:35,133 --> 00:47:38,852 Speaker 1: four you know, a four person group better than that. 968 00:47:38,893 --> 00:47:41,172 Speaker 1: I mean, the only ones you could say, I don't know, 969 00:47:41,252 --> 00:47:47,973 Speaker 1: maybe maybe Jalen Hurd, saj Brown, Sakwon Barkley, maybe you 970 00:47:48,013 --> 00:47:52,772 Speaker 1: know Mahomes, Kelsey Worthy, etc. And the kicker who is 971 00:47:52,812 --> 00:47:55,692 Speaker 1: given political speeches on the side. I mean, but I'm 972 00:47:55,692 --> 00:47:57,733 Speaker 1: not sure anybody would be better than this group. 973 00:47:58,732 --> 00:48:02,212 Speaker 2: And Brandon Aubrey is a weapon unlike anything we've ever seen. 974 00:48:02,652 --> 00:48:06,013 Speaker 2: He gets sixty one yards with ease, and it was 975 00:48:06,292 --> 00:48:08,533 Speaker 2: like perfectly centered. It went right over the top of 976 00:48:08,533 --> 00:48:11,292 Speaker 2: the post. But it would have been good from seventy five. 977 00:48:11,372 --> 00:48:13,093 Speaker 2: And when he made it, they said, he already has 978 00:48:13,133 --> 00:48:15,772 Speaker 2: the record for most sixty yarders in a career and 979 00:48:15,812 --> 00:48:17,813 Speaker 2: he's only been around a few years. From the moment 980 00:48:17,812 --> 00:48:19,452 Speaker 2: he got up on the couch when his wife said, 981 00:48:19,453 --> 00:48:21,732 Speaker 2: oh you should go try that football thing, and now 982 00:48:21,772 --> 00:48:22,612 Speaker 2: look at him I mean. 983 00:48:22,533 --> 00:48:24,972 Speaker 1: He's but I still don't know. We've talked about this. 984 00:48:25,013 --> 00:48:26,852 Speaker 1: I don't know how much I buy this now. I 985 00:48:26,852 --> 00:48:30,173 Speaker 1: think I think all these records say that the fact 986 00:48:30,172 --> 00:48:33,453 Speaker 1: that the kickers now get to massage their balls before 987 00:48:33,493 --> 00:48:37,013 Speaker 1: the kicks, I don't think it's I genuinely think we 988 00:48:37,093 --> 00:48:39,692 Speaker 1: have to look at it differently, and I wonder if 989 00:48:39,732 --> 00:48:42,772 Speaker 1: coaches are coaching differently on it, like now you're in 990 00:48:42,893 --> 00:48:46,773 Speaker 1: field goal range when you're at the forty five yard line, 991 00:48:47,212 --> 00:48:49,172 Speaker 1: and I think it does. I think it's gonna lead 992 00:48:49,212 --> 00:48:51,452 Speaker 1: to kind of a revolution. I'm gonna make you a 993 00:48:51,453 --> 00:48:53,453 Speaker 1: prediction the NFL in the next couple of years is 994 00:48:53,493 --> 00:48:56,732 Speaker 1: going to do something to make it to where they 995 00:48:56,732 --> 00:48:58,533 Speaker 1: because if they don't change something, we're gonna be kicking 996 00:48:58,573 --> 00:48:59,973 Speaker 1: seventy yarders regularly. 997 00:49:00,493 --> 00:49:02,813 Speaker 2: I'm ready for the Cowboys to try it. I'm hoping 998 00:49:03,212 --> 00:49:05,293 Speaker 2: we get a scenario where it's an end a half 999 00:49:05,812 --> 00:49:08,173 Speaker 2: or may you're up big. But I want Brandon Aubrey 1000 00:49:08,212 --> 00:49:09,773 Speaker 2: to get a moment to try to break the record 1001 00:49:09,812 --> 00:49:10,692 Speaker 2: and kick one from seven. 1002 00:49:10,732 --> 00:49:13,373 Speaker 1: What is the record? The record sixty seven. 1003 00:49:13,053 --> 00:49:15,212 Speaker 2: And the preseason the guy hit the seventy yarder, but 1004 00:49:15,252 --> 00:49:17,812 Speaker 2: it didn't count for the preseason for the record. So 1005 00:49:17,812 --> 00:49:20,053 Speaker 2: the official records in the sixties, but we have seen 1006 00:49:20,053 --> 00:49:22,692 Speaker 2: a seventy yarder go through this year. Cam Little with 1007 00:49:22,732 --> 00:49:23,372 Speaker 2: the Javars. 1008 00:49:23,973 --> 00:49:28,373 Speaker 1: When I was a kid, I knew very little about 1009 00:49:28,413 --> 00:49:30,853 Speaker 1: records in sports, but I could have told you Tom 1010 00:49:30,933 --> 00:49:33,532 Speaker 1: Dempsey had the field goal record. It was sixty three. 1011 00:49:33,732 --> 00:49:35,972 Speaker 1: It was just one of those things that everyone knew. 1012 00:49:36,093 --> 00:49:39,252 Speaker 1: It was like you were told, yeah, the record for 1013 00:49:39,372 --> 00:49:42,133 Speaker 1: most games played is this, The record for field goal 1014 00:49:42,212 --> 00:49:43,652 Speaker 1: is sixty three. And then I remember I think it 1015 00:49:43,692 --> 00:49:47,652 Speaker 1: was Jason Elam maybe tied at one time, and then 1016 00:49:48,212 --> 00:49:51,692 Speaker 1: since then it's like a record I can't keep up with. 1017 00:49:51,812 --> 00:49:53,652 Speaker 1: It feels like it changes so quickly. 1018 00:49:54,493 --> 00:49:57,772 Speaker 2: And with Aubrey, he's just insanely accurate too. He's going 1019 00:49:57,852 --> 00:49:59,772 Speaker 2: to be one of the most accurate kickers of all time. 1020 00:50:00,252 --> 00:50:03,013 Speaker 2: I'm wondering when it comes time to get to the 1021 00:50:03,053 --> 00:50:05,732 Speaker 2: negotiation with table with him, he's so valuable. 1022 00:50:06,172 --> 00:50:07,053 Speaker 1: That's a great question. 1023 00:50:07,652 --> 00:50:09,533 Speaker 2: I mean, when when you can when you have a 1024 00:50:09,533 --> 00:50:11,293 Speaker 2: guy who, as soon as you can cross the fifty 1025 00:50:11,372 --> 00:50:14,092 Speaker 2: is gonna get you three points, I mean, that's that's 1026 00:50:14,093 --> 00:50:15,252 Speaker 2: a kicker that deserves it. 1027 00:50:17,093 --> 00:50:19,852 Speaker 1: We've seen the Jerry Jones is very reasonable in negotiation, 1028 00:50:20,013 --> 00:50:22,292 Speaker 1: so I think that I think it should be I 1029 00:50:22,372 --> 00:50:24,732 Speaker 1: think it should be no problem to be able to 1030 00:50:24,933 --> 00:50:27,412 Speaker 1: UH to re sign Aubrey. And you also got to 1031 00:50:27,413 --> 00:50:29,412 Speaker 1: see one of my favorite things, which is the four 1032 00:50:29,692 --> 00:50:33,573 Speaker 1: thirty Dallas Cowboys game with the sun through the whole 1033 00:50:33,613 --> 00:50:36,252 Speaker 1: of the roof. I always enjoy that. You never know 1034 00:50:36,292 --> 00:50:39,492 Speaker 1: where it's gonna glare. It gives such it is such 1035 00:50:39,493 --> 00:50:41,932 Speaker 1: a bizarre I don't know if it's a home field 1036 00:50:41,933 --> 00:50:44,332 Speaker 1: advantage or not, because George Pickens ended up dropping a 1037 00:50:44,413 --> 00:50:46,613 Speaker 1: pass because of it. What do you make of the 1038 00:50:47,252 --> 00:50:50,212 Speaker 1: light problem they have when they play these mid afternoon 1039 00:50:50,252 --> 00:50:54,093 Speaker 1: games in Dallas. It's insane that they haven't fixed this already. 1040 00:50:54,172 --> 00:50:57,492 Speaker 1: Last year, Ceedee Lamb dropped a routine pass that hit 1041 00:50:57,533 --> 00:51:00,292 Speaker 1: him in the chest, but in the in the replay 1042 00:51:00,332 --> 00:51:02,372 Speaker 1: you can literally see that he's blinded. He says in 1043 00:51:02,413 --> 00:51:05,133 Speaker 1: the postgame press conference, he complained about it. So if 1044 00:51:05,172 --> 00:51:09,093 Speaker 1: you're all pro wide receivers dropping touchdowns at home and 1045 00:51:09,172 --> 00:51:11,332 Speaker 1: complaining about it, how have you not already fixed it. 1046 00:51:11,332 --> 00:51:15,292 Speaker 1: It's not an advantage that's happening to your own guys. Yeah, 1047 00:51:15,573 --> 00:51:18,453 Speaker 1: Jane Daniels hurt. We still don't as of this moment, 1048 00:51:19,013 --> 00:51:21,972 Speaker 1: know what's wrong with him. That concerns me a little bit. 1049 00:51:22,212 --> 00:51:24,892 Speaker 1: The fact that they haven't heard anything suggests to me 1050 00:51:24,973 --> 00:51:29,332 Speaker 1: it's more than nothing. With Jane Daniels, Marcus Mariota came 1051 00:51:29,372 --> 00:51:33,093 Speaker 1: in through an interception, picked six pretty quickly. I mean, 1052 00:51:33,133 --> 00:51:36,412 Speaker 1: the commander's the entire outlook for the team changes if 1053 00:51:36,453 --> 00:51:38,212 Speaker 1: they're out. This year, there were a lot of people's 1054 00:51:38,252 --> 00:51:40,052 Speaker 1: pick to go to the Super Bowl. I think they've 1055 00:51:40,053 --> 00:51:43,413 Speaker 1: been slightly disappointing, and if they lose Jaydon Daniels probably 1056 00:51:43,453 --> 00:51:43,812 Speaker 1: that's that. 1057 00:51:44,973 --> 00:51:47,613 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I think ham Streen. I don't know 1058 00:51:47,692 --> 00:51:49,533 Speaker 2: how long that could keep him out, but Mario has 1059 00:51:49,533 --> 00:51:52,172 Speaker 2: showed today that he can't hold him on. He gave 1060 00:51:52,252 --> 00:51:53,932 Speaker 2: him two good weeks a few weeks ago, but that 1061 00:51:53,973 --> 00:51:57,252 Speaker 2: pick sixty through today was embarrassing. They have no hope 1062 00:51:57,252 --> 00:51:58,652 Speaker 2: if Jayde Daniels isn't healthy. 1063 00:51:58,933 --> 00:52:00,692 Speaker 1: He cut his hair though, by the way, after you 1064 00:52:00,732 --> 00:52:03,133 Speaker 1: gave him a hard time about that gray hair, he 1065 00:52:03,252 --> 00:52:05,852 Speaker 1: cut it a little bit shorter. I think you may 1066 00:52:05,893 --> 00:52:08,292 Speaker 1: have shamed him, which I don't think was very nice 1067 00:52:08,332 --> 00:52:11,933 Speaker 1: of you. San Francisco, San Francisco and Atlanta plays Sunday 1068 00:52:12,013 --> 00:52:15,493 Speaker 1: Night football. After a bunch of weeks of banger Sunday 1069 00:52:15,573 --> 00:52:18,532 Speaker 1: Night games back to back to back, you get kind 1070 00:52:18,533 --> 00:52:21,973 Speaker 1: of a dud. San Francisco wins twenty to ten. Michael 1071 00:52:21,973 --> 00:52:23,892 Speaker 1: Pennings Junior kind of got hurt at the end. We'll 1072 00:52:23,893 --> 00:52:27,972 Speaker 1: see what happens with that. Matt Jones plays pretty well, 1073 00:52:27,973 --> 00:52:31,933 Speaker 1: but the story is McCaffrey seven catches, twenty three carries, 1074 00:52:31,973 --> 00:52:36,093 Speaker 1: he had thirty different attempts to the ball. He's basically 1075 00:52:36,093 --> 00:52:38,692 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers entire offense, and it was enough 1076 00:52:38,692 --> 00:52:39,533 Speaker 1: to get the win today. 1077 00:52:40,093 --> 00:52:42,733 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they needed him there, even though Kittle 1078 00:52:42,772 --> 00:52:44,453 Speaker 2: came back. He was very quiet. I don't even know 1079 00:52:44,453 --> 00:52:46,332 Speaker 2: if he had a catch tonight. But the team that's 1080 00:52:46,812 --> 00:52:49,772 Speaker 2: been so banged up and missing everybody, McCaffrey pretty much 1081 00:52:49,893 --> 00:52:51,332 Speaker 2: was the offense. He went out and won of the 1082 00:52:51,372 --> 00:52:54,332 Speaker 2: game tonight, So that was huge by him. Mac Jonesty 1083 00:52:54,413 --> 00:52:56,892 Speaker 2: pretty many mediocre night. It was all McCaffrey. 1084 00:52:57,772 --> 00:53:02,133 Speaker 1: Yeah. The I am impressed though. I mean there you 1085 00:53:02,292 --> 00:53:05,252 Speaker 1: have to give San Francisco credit for how they are 1086 00:53:05,252 --> 00:53:07,373 Speaker 1: able to keep it going with all these injuries, including 1087 00:53:07,372 --> 00:53:11,613 Speaker 1: a quarterback. I mean, Matt Jones comes in We've talked 1088 00:53:11,613 --> 00:53:13,532 Speaker 1: a lot on this show about their schedule. I mean, 1089 00:53:13,573 --> 00:53:17,452 Speaker 1: they can be they can be mediocre and still win 1090 00:53:17,493 --> 00:53:20,812 Speaker 1: a lot of games, and they're still on pace to 1091 00:53:20,812 --> 00:53:23,292 Speaker 1: do that. So let's go over some news items to 1092 00:53:23,413 --> 00:53:26,972 Speaker 1: end the show. Doug Martin passes away at the age 1093 00:53:27,013 --> 00:53:29,492 Speaker 1: of thirty six. Billy is not able to be on 1094 00:53:29,533 --> 00:53:33,493 Speaker 1: the mic, but that was his former one of his 1095 00:53:33,573 --> 00:53:36,652 Speaker 1: most beloved players with Tampa Bay. So of rest in 1096 00:53:36,692 --> 00:53:39,932 Speaker 1: peace to Doug Martin. We don't know any more about it, 1097 00:53:39,973 --> 00:53:41,932 Speaker 1: but I know Billy would want to give that a 1098 00:53:41,973 --> 00:53:47,053 Speaker 1: shout out. Brandon Graham from the Philadelphia Eagles sixteen years 1099 00:53:47,093 --> 00:53:49,853 Speaker 1: he played, then he retires. They say, Mike, come back. 1100 00:53:50,493 --> 00:53:54,652 Speaker 1: I don't understand how guys who aren't doing anything for 1101 00:53:54,933 --> 00:53:58,292 Speaker 1: can just all of a sudden come back after not 1102 00:53:58,453 --> 00:54:00,613 Speaker 1: playing and be ready to go on a field, especially 1103 00:54:00,652 --> 00:54:02,212 Speaker 1: in a position like a linebacker. 1104 00:54:03,413 --> 00:54:05,573 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's taking off so long, but I mean the 1105 00:54:05,613 --> 00:54:08,133 Speaker 2: answers were in front of us. We just talked about it. 1106 00:54:08,172 --> 00:54:10,972 Speaker 2: We got Andy Dalton versus tyrod Taylor. We had Aaron 1107 00:54:11,053 --> 00:54:14,092 Speaker 2: Rodgers versus Joe Flacco. I think everybody's seeing these forty 1108 00:54:14,172 --> 00:54:16,933 Speaker 2: year olds. I think Brandy Graham is probably pushing forty 1109 00:54:16,973 --> 00:54:19,412 Speaker 2: thirty seven thirty eight ish. I think everybody's like, well, 1110 00:54:19,453 --> 00:54:21,212 Speaker 2: you know what, I'm gonna go give it a go again. 1111 00:54:21,252 --> 00:54:23,492 Speaker 2: If he's old men or in primetime showing off, I'll 1112 00:54:23,533 --> 00:54:24,133 Speaker 2: give it a try. 1113 00:54:24,692 --> 00:54:24,812 Speaker 4: Well. 1114 00:54:24,812 --> 00:54:28,812 Speaker 1: That Aaron Rodgers Joe Flacco game was kind of amazing. 1115 00:54:28,933 --> 00:54:31,692 Speaker 1: I have to say. I mean, I'm an Aaron Rodgers hater, 1116 00:54:32,093 --> 00:54:34,212 Speaker 1: but he was great. And then Joe Flacco, I mean, 1117 00:54:34,292 --> 00:54:37,973 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco really is an inspiration because Aaron Rodgers is 1118 00:54:38,013 --> 00:54:40,852 Speaker 1: like an otherworldly talent. He's a Hall of Famer, but 1119 00:54:40,973 --> 00:54:45,893 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco has kind of just been above average dude 1120 00:54:45,973 --> 00:54:49,372 Speaker 1: his entire career, and even as above average dudes in 1121 00:54:49,453 --> 00:54:52,852 Speaker 1: his forties still playing, gets traded in the middle of 1122 00:54:52,893 --> 00:54:57,012 Speaker 1: the season, then goes and beats Pittsburgh in a game 1123 00:54:57,053 --> 00:55:00,212 Speaker 1: that was crucial for the Bengals. He might be able 1124 00:55:00,212 --> 00:55:03,252 Speaker 1: to hold down the fort until Burrow. Joe Flacco just 1125 00:55:03,332 --> 00:55:05,492 Speaker 1: continues to impress me. I don't think he's ever going 1126 00:55:05,573 --> 00:55:06,013 Speaker 1: to retire. 1127 00:55:07,212 --> 00:55:09,852 Speaker 2: I agree, And that game was so fun. I was 1128 00:55:09,893 --> 00:55:13,133 Speaker 2: excited to watch it, maybe expecting him be kind of 1129 00:55:13,172 --> 00:55:15,692 Speaker 2: just two old guys running around trying their best, but 1130 00:55:15,732 --> 00:55:17,452 Speaker 2: that was a heck of a shootout and combine for 1131 00:55:17,533 --> 00:55:21,053 Speaker 2: seven touchdowns. And even though Steelers have still de lead 1132 00:55:21,093 --> 00:55:23,893 Speaker 2: in the division, I'm not sleeping on the Bengals anymore. 1133 00:55:23,893 --> 00:55:27,572 Speaker 2: After watching Flacco connect with Chase sixteen times in that game. 1134 00:55:27,613 --> 00:55:29,812 Speaker 2: I mean, that offense looked good. He can keep it 1135 00:55:29,852 --> 00:55:31,772 Speaker 2: together until Burrow's back. I believe in it. 1136 00:55:32,292 --> 00:55:36,452 Speaker 1: I think Kirk Herbstreet was saying during the game talking 1137 00:55:36,453 --> 00:55:39,252 Speaker 1: about Jamar Chase, like are we looking at one of 1138 00:55:39,292 --> 00:55:43,133 Speaker 1: the best ever? And I kind of wonder, like he 1139 00:55:43,332 --> 00:55:46,493 Speaker 1: seems as unstoppable. I mean, there were guys in like 1140 00:55:46,613 --> 00:55:49,533 Speaker 1: Randy Moss who were unstoppable in part because their physical 1141 00:55:49,573 --> 00:55:52,933 Speaker 1: gifts were so amazing. But like for a guy who's 1142 00:55:53,093 --> 00:55:56,013 Speaker 1: little the way Jamar Chase as good as he is, 1143 00:55:56,053 --> 00:55:58,093 Speaker 1: I kind of hate that he's losing bits of his 1144 00:55:58,212 --> 00:56:02,892 Speaker 1: career when Burrow gets hurt. But he is an he 1145 00:56:03,013 --> 00:56:06,052 Speaker 1: is to me, he's the most fun player to watch 1146 00:56:06,133 --> 00:56:07,693 Speaker 1: as a receiver in the entire league. 1147 00:56:08,332 --> 00:56:10,812 Speaker 2: And when you're seeing what Flacco's done with him where 1148 00:56:10,812 --> 00:56:13,492 Speaker 2: you had this record setting night a couple of nights ago, 1149 00:56:13,533 --> 00:56:16,172 Speaker 2: it kind of makes me wonder, like, Jake Browning, did 1150 00:56:16,172 --> 00:56:19,692 Speaker 2: you just not see him like he's always opening, Like, 1151 00:56:19,732 --> 00:56:21,372 Speaker 2: did you not want to throw it to him? You 1152 00:56:21,453 --> 00:56:23,573 Speaker 2: have jamar face? How are you not able to get 1153 00:56:23,573 --> 00:56:24,732 Speaker 2: it to him? Just a little bit? 1154 00:56:25,372 --> 00:56:27,972 Speaker 1: Poor Jake Brownie. I don't know why I feel bad, 1155 00:56:28,093 --> 00:56:30,533 Speaker 1: so bad for Jake Browning. But when you have a 1156 00:56:30,652 --> 00:56:32,372 Speaker 1: job for a number of years, you lose it. A 1157 00:56:32,413 --> 00:56:35,253 Speaker 1: forty year old man comes in like dipping with Greg 1158 00:56:35,292 --> 00:56:38,093 Speaker 1: gray Beard and does better than you. It's got to 1159 00:56:38,133 --> 00:56:41,372 Speaker 1: make you a little bit self conscious. Hi, let's finish here. 1160 00:56:41,493 --> 00:56:45,772 Speaker 1: Monday Night football. Two games. I don't know. I don't 1161 00:56:45,772 --> 00:56:47,252 Speaker 1: love the two games because I think it's gonna be 1162 00:56:47,252 --> 00:56:48,692 Speaker 1: hard for me to stay up for the second one. 1163 00:56:48,732 --> 00:56:52,572 Speaker 1: But the first one's great Bucks and Lions. This will 1164 00:56:52,573 --> 00:56:55,692 Speaker 1: be i think one of the better games of the season. 1165 00:56:56,093 --> 00:56:59,772 Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch the Lions defense against Baker Mayfield. 1166 00:56:59,812 --> 00:57:00,332 Speaker 1: Who you got. 1167 00:57:02,252 --> 00:57:05,372 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the Lions, but if Baker goes in 1168 00:57:05,413 --> 00:57:08,093 Speaker 2: there and does it well, I'm not shock me. Obviously, 1169 00:57:08,133 --> 00:57:09,733 Speaker 2: there's a two of the best teams in the league 1170 00:57:09,772 --> 00:57:13,012 Speaker 2: right now. I'm going to take the Lions to win 1171 00:57:13,053 --> 00:57:14,772 Speaker 2: it just because they look so good lately. But I'm 1172 00:57:14,852 --> 00:57:16,933 Speaker 2: I'm about to become a full Bucks fan with Billy. 1173 00:57:16,973 --> 00:57:18,733 Speaker 2: They've been so fun this year. I'm looking forward to 1174 00:57:18,733 --> 00:57:19,413 Speaker 2: watching this one. 1175 00:57:19,653 --> 00:57:23,173 Speaker 1: Lines are five and a half point favorites. That feels 1176 00:57:23,213 --> 00:57:25,533 Speaker 1: a little high to me. I mean it feels a 1177 00:57:25,533 --> 00:57:28,972 Speaker 1: little high considering that I think the Buccaneers can win 1178 00:57:29,013 --> 00:57:31,653 Speaker 1: the game. I'm gonna pick Detroit to win. But I 1179 00:57:31,653 --> 00:57:33,253 Speaker 1: think if I were to do the game, I think 1180 00:57:33,293 --> 00:57:35,133 Speaker 1: it would take the five and a half plus Tampa 1181 00:57:35,133 --> 00:57:37,733 Speaker 1: Bay plus two to twenty five is not ridiculous. The 1182 00:57:37,813 --> 00:57:42,333 Speaker 1: ten o'clock game is Texans at Seahawks. I love my 1183 00:57:42,413 --> 00:57:45,173 Speaker 1: guy Dan Orlowski, who I used to do the radio with. 1184 00:57:46,053 --> 00:57:50,093 Speaker 1: He has tweeted more about the tennis game than any person, 1185 00:57:50,173 --> 00:57:52,773 Speaker 1: like he's doing the game. And he said to me 1186 00:57:53,213 --> 00:57:56,053 Speaker 1: or he said in a tweet earlier today, Texas and 1187 00:57:56,093 --> 00:57:59,013 Speaker 1: Seahawks is the kind of thing that makes you love football. 1188 00:57:59,653 --> 00:58:04,372 Speaker 1: And I don't know what he means, like, how does 1189 00:58:04,453 --> 00:58:06,932 Speaker 1: Texans and Seahawks make you want to love football? The 1190 00:58:07,093 --> 00:58:09,733 Speaker 1: question is can I stay awake for this game? And 1191 00:58:09,773 --> 00:58:11,773 Speaker 1: I think the answer, since it starts at ten o'clock 1192 00:58:12,133 --> 00:58:13,413 Speaker 1: Drew is probably. 1193 00:58:13,053 --> 00:58:16,693 Speaker 2: Now, are you sure he didn't mean Texans at Seahawks 1194 00:58:16,693 --> 00:58:19,333 Speaker 2: will test how much you love football, Like, we're gonna 1195 00:58:19,333 --> 00:58:22,773 Speaker 2: really find out how much you love football? Ten pm 1196 00:58:22,852 --> 00:58:25,852 Speaker 2: a Monday night. Are you in for? It should be 1197 00:58:25,893 --> 00:58:27,493 Speaker 2: a good game. I don't know if I'll catch it 1198 00:58:27,493 --> 00:58:29,852 Speaker 2: being that late. I'll give it my best. I'm like 1199 00:58:29,973 --> 00:58:32,493 Speaker 2: Flackow and Rogers and you. I guess you know I 1200 00:58:32,493 --> 00:58:34,613 Speaker 2: need my need my sleep that late at night. But 1201 00:58:35,053 --> 00:58:36,573 Speaker 2: I don't know if this is one that you know, 1202 00:58:36,653 --> 00:58:37,693 Speaker 2: this loved for football. 1203 00:58:37,693 --> 00:58:39,933 Speaker 1: Like you said, well, it's a long weekend for football. 1204 00:58:39,973 --> 00:58:41,693 Speaker 1: I mean, when you're where you go, you start with 1205 00:58:41,773 --> 00:58:45,293 Speaker 1: Thursday night. Then Louisville played Miami Friday night. You had 1206 00:58:45,333 --> 00:58:48,613 Speaker 1: a full day of Saturday football games. Our Kentucky Wildcats 1207 00:58:48,653 --> 00:58:51,412 Speaker 1: played Saturday night. I finished my post game show at 1208 00:58:51,413 --> 00:58:53,892 Speaker 1: one fifteen in the morning. I got up at nine 1209 00:58:53,933 --> 00:58:57,173 Speaker 1: am to do ESPN. Now it's twelve thirty at night 1210 00:58:57,213 --> 00:59:00,333 Speaker 1: and we're doing it. The chances of me staying for 1211 00:59:00,413 --> 00:59:03,093 Speaker 1: Seahawks Texas, I think that's too much to ask of 1212 00:59:03,173 --> 00:59:05,412 Speaker 1: any man. So I'm gonna go ahead and say to you, 1213 00:59:05,493 --> 00:59:08,892 Speaker 1: the NFL zero listeners, feel free to let me know 1214 00:59:08,933 --> 00:59:12,012 Speaker 1: how it goes, and I will I will make sure 1215 00:59:12,413 --> 00:59:14,413 Speaker 1: to appreciate all of your comments. 1216 00:59:14,693 --> 00:59:17,052 Speaker 2: Well, are you're not excited about Sam Donald late night? 1217 00:59:17,413 --> 00:59:18,453 Speaker 2: He's been pretty awesome. 1218 00:59:19,133 --> 00:59:21,452 Speaker 1: You're acting like Sam Darnold is not a part of 1219 00:59:21,493 --> 00:59:24,452 Speaker 1: my thoughts every late night, and I don't think it's 1220 00:59:24,813 --> 00:59:29,053 Speaker 1: I think we can take one evening evening. All well, listen, 1221 00:59:29,493 --> 00:59:31,973 Speaker 1: Thank you all very much for listening. We'll be back 1222 00:59:32,093 --> 00:59:37,412 Speaker 1: on Wednesday to join you again. Drew, it's nice to 1223 00:59:37,413 --> 00:59:40,333 Speaker 1: see you. Who is that John Daly behind you there? 1224 00:59:41,733 --> 00:59:44,293 Speaker 2: We're oh my nme les. 1225 00:59:46,133 --> 00:59:46,973 Speaker 1: Is that John Daly? 1226 00:59:47,413 --> 00:59:49,852 Speaker 2: No, it's just at the Masters. They have a know 1227 00:59:49,973 --> 00:59:51,412 Speaker 2: him every year. This is the year I went. I 1228 00:59:51,413 --> 00:59:52,012 Speaker 2: got to know him. 1229 00:59:52,533 --> 00:59:54,533 Speaker 1: Oh well, see, I didn't even know that was the thing. 1230 00:59:54,653 --> 00:59:59,613 Speaker 1: You organize this to recognize Mitch. Please Available from Simon 1231 00:59:59,653 --> 01:00:03,813 Speaker 1: and Schuster or with your local book retailer. 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