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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, clear eyes, full heart, can't lose.

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Speaker 2: It's Texas Forever, Baby, Morning Combat. Luke Thomas, Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: And how about this guest star on Showtime They call

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Speaker 1: him Showtime Sorry for my hair, the former two times

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Speaker 1: welterweight champion of the world. He's got the best hair

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Speaker 1: in boxing Showtime, Sean Porter. Why is he here? Because

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Speaker 1: he's a superstar. Because we're here at Texas Live Arlington,

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Speaker 1: the Dome behind us, and of course Saturday night only

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Speaker 1: on Showtime pay per View nine pm Eastern. Your Dennis

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Speaker 1: Ugus Errol Spence Junior straps is in three of the

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Speaker 1: four welterweight belts at Steak Sean, this has been a

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Speaker 1: boon for us to get you here. I know you

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Speaker 1: are recording your podcast over there. You're making a lot

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Speaker 1: of appearances. You obviously fought both guys. You have that

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Speaker 1: great insight, but you're like my favorite person in this industry.

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Speaker 3: So great to be back with you. Thank you.

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Speaker 4: It's great to see you man, great to be back

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Speaker 4: with you right here. I'm doing great. Life is good.

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Speaker 4: The podcast is going really well. So got no.

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Speaker 2: Competive before we get into this fight.

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Speaker 5: Luke and I were no more close ups too, because yeah.

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Speaker 3: Walk walk us through the hair.

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Speaker 5: What did you what's the plan here?

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Speaker 3: Plan?

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Speaker 5: The plan is to go to this shop and get

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Speaker 5: my hair done.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we only know you to be buttoned up. We've

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Speaker 2: seen those.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought this was a good look until I

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Speaker 4: came over here. The camera, this camera is it's really

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Speaker 4: exposing how bad it is.

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Speaker 5: It looked good over there.

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Speaker 2: Shoot us so we look yeah, the good way.

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Speaker 6: They try to make us look as bad as possible.

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Speaker 6: So welcome to the club.

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Speaker 3: Sean.

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Speaker 1: You'ly retired and it was a I gotta give you credit.

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Speaker 1: You fought Terrence Crawford last fall pay per view, two networks,

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Speaker 1: two rivals, sides of the street come together. Was great

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Speaker 1: for boxing. Dude, I never got to talk to you

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Speaker 1: personally privately.

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Speaker 3: Have that, bro.

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Speaker 1: You put on a hell of a performance and a

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Speaker 1: losing effort and then just up and.

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Speaker 2: Decided to retire.

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Speaker 1: So of course, Luke and I are going to praise

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Speaker 1: you and say you're going out on your own terms

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Speaker 1: as a star, former champion.

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Speaker 2: Did you know you were going to do that after

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Speaker 2: the fight?

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Speaker 5: I did.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's much of a secret now that

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Speaker 4: I knew I was gonna do it.

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Speaker 5: But I think.

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Speaker 4: Overall and I think people have asked me, hey, man,

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Speaker 4: how do you feel, how do you feel? How does

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Speaker 4: it feel to be retired? And I said, man, I'm good.

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Speaker 4: They say you're happy, aren't you? Like, yeah, I'm happy,

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Speaker 4: and they say, ooh, if you're happy, then no need

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Speaker 4: to even come back. In the moment when I announced

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Speaker 4: my retirement, I was so happy to do it that

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Speaker 4: I didn't have a bone in my body, a thought

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Speaker 5: I just went for it.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I think it became it was a moment,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like I kind of had

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Speaker 5: You heard all the gas.

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Speaker 2: You're dead, the crowd like shit, man.

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Speaker 5: I think I think you know. My dad, now, we

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Speaker 4: He knew, we both knew that, you know, it was

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Speaker 4: it was only a matter of fights, aka fight until

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Speaker 4: I will until I was going to retire. So I

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Speaker 4: think there was a little a little surprise for him,

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Speaker 5: This is what you're gonna do, do it.

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Speaker 6: You know, if you sharp that night you had one,

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Speaker 6: would you have still retired? Yes, no matter what I was, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I you know, I keep telling people like, for me

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Speaker 4: remaining in the sport for money, or remaining in the

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Speaker 4: to fight, there's no reason for me to even fight anymore.

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Speaker 4: So once I fought the names that I felt I

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Speaker 4: I'm ready to be done.

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Speaker 3: You know, so your generation about it.

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Speaker 5: There's really no amount of money that would bring me back.

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Speaker 2: I love call you with that money, they'll they'll drive

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Speaker 4: You know, I got a message. I was like, I

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Speaker 4: guess I should have been expecting this. I've got a

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Speaker 4: couple of calls, Hey, you really done? Or what do

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Speaker 4: you think about this or that? So no, I'm done.

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Speaker 6: But you know what, the best part your health is intact. Yes,

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Speaker 6: that sound great, you look great.

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Speaker 3: Yes. Time to time, you got made some money, you

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Speaker 3: had some big wins.

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Speaker 5: That's about what.

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Speaker 1: I have no question on this because I was intrigued

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Speaker 1: when you thought Terrence Crawford, who's among the best three

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Speaker 2: I know it ended up turning South.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but dude, you you you have them, You figured

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Speaker 1: something out. You were sharp as shit in terms of

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Speaker 1: the educated pressure. And let's give him credit for making

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Speaker 1: he had to switch up a lot of you really

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Speaker 1: had to make him work. But were there moments in

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Speaker 4: I don't think he never showed me that he was uncomfortable.

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Speaker 4: He never showed me like any discomfort at all. I'm

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Speaker 4: used to seeing that. I didn't see that against him.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: I think for the most part, it takes a special

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Speaker 4: individual to do what I did against Aero Spince Junior.

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Speaker 4: It takes a special individual to do what I did

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Speaker 4: against Tennance Crawford. I don't think that there's one style

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Speaker 4: that can be either of those guys. It takes a

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Speaker 4: multiple variety of things that needs to be done from

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Speaker 4: it forgetting to end. And I think, you know, with

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Speaker 4: those things. Of course, both those guys had success against me,

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Speaker 4: and we would love to see them against one another.

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Speaker 1: He may not be taking checks anymore to fight, but

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Speaker 1: I see him jumping up on every network.

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Speaker 6: I mean, if there's one thing Sean Porter likes, it's

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Speaker 6: a camera in my I.

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Speaker 3: Had a Payton check on the end of it.

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Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, we're here for for Spence who got

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Speaker 1: fantastic fight?

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Speaker 2: You fuck both of these guys.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the winner will go on to fight for the

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Speaker 1: Underspeed to get title against Crawford.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Keith Thurman slides and a lot to talk about

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Speaker 1: for the future. But yeah, fourteen's Saturday night. You saw

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Speaker 1: those guys on the scale. You want to talk about

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Speaker 1: showing up for the big one. You're a guy who

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Speaker 1: knows how to get in shape too. Were you impressed

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Speaker 4: I was very impressed by both these guys I've seen.

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Speaker 4: Had an opportunity to see UGA's train. He just looked

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Speaker 4: very content and excited when I watched him training one

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Speaker 4: on one, and then have an opportunity on my hand

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Speaker 4: to watch Spence through his thing on his media workout.

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Speaker 4: Both these guys look like they've done everything, have turned

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Speaker 4: turned over every stone, and what we get tomorrow night

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Speaker 4: is definitely going to be a treat.

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Speaker 3: All right, let me ask hardest part about beating fighting ugas?

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Speaker 3: Who you beat.

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Speaker 6: Hardest part about fighting Spence where it was close, but

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Speaker 6: you obviously got a decision.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: With Ugas, I think it was he had to tame

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Speaker 4: want in the boxing from the outside, and round after

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Speaker 4: round he's coming right after me, telling me, come at

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Speaker 4: fight me like I thought you were, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean, Like I really had the time tame the

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Speaker 4: with Aero it was like just knowing figuring out what

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Speaker 4: was a guy that's gonna present you something once you

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Speaker 4: once you answer that question, he's gonna bring you another question.

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Speaker 1: You know what do you what can you say about

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Speaker 1: who got his power? Not known for it yet? If

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Speaker 1: you watch him against Manny Pacio Lindon sixty percent of

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Speaker 1: his power shot and stood right in front of the legend,

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Speaker 4: I think is it goes underrecognized. I think unrecognized. Excuse me,

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Speaker 4: I think that I think that he's stronger than a

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Speaker 4: And with this boxing game, especially the welterweight division, it

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Speaker 6: No, all right, So for Spence, the game plan has

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Speaker 6: Hugas backwards? Like in terms of the real estate and

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Speaker 4: The real estate. Whoever controls the real estate is who

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Speaker 4: wins this fight. That's who wins this fight. Because whoever's

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Speaker 4: controlling it means that they're being successful, whether that's on

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Speaker 4: say if there's an advantage or not that there's even

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Speaker 4: an advantage. Ugas has to work up close. He has

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Speaker 4: to get to the inside. That's who he is, that's

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Speaker 4: what he does. He's not a one two three from

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Speaker 4: the outside kind of guy. He's not gonna turn and

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Speaker 4: things like that. I believe that aero Spence can control

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Speaker 4: the range in the distance. I believe he can work

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Speaker 5: I believe he's gonna be comfortable there. You know what

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Speaker 5: I mean. I think that this is Aerospiens's fight.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be as I think it's gonna.

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Speaker 5: Be so interesting.

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Speaker 1: Isn't as easy to say this because Spence obviously the

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Speaker 1: headlines are of the eye surgery, still recovering from the accident,

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Speaker 1: thirty two, but still in his prime. But ye know

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Speaker 1: what he says, and I can't get over him saying

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Speaker 1: it because it seems real.

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Speaker 2: Is okay?

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Speaker 1: People want to see if I'm the same guy. I'm

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Speaker 1: better than that guy. Guys, I'm more dedicated and determined

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Speaker 1: than ever. Can that be true? Can he be even

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Speaker 1: better than the guy that fought you in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 4: As a guy who's been through it? I'm telling everyone

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Speaker 4: right now, A focused, determined fighter that's put nothing but

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Speaker 4: their energy into that and nothing else, which Aerospence has

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Speaker 4: not always done, makes you a better fighter. Aerospence more

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Speaker 4: than likely is a better fighter now than he was

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Speaker 3: Guess what he's dangerous.

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Speaker 4: He's thirty two, now, he's had time to mature, He's

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Speaker 5: This is we got a better Aerospis junior.

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Speaker 6: But you see guys who make changes between events, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, when I look at it, I look

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Speaker 4: Everybody says that when you do the things that will

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Speaker 5: That's the difference there, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: So I believe that Aero Spence has put himself in

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Speaker 1: You know, one time Sean had to talk with me.

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Speaker 2: I've been judged by this man or Okay, I that's.

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Speaker 5: That true at all? That what you saw was me

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Speaker 4: Whenever you see me looking at you, and I'm not

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Speaker 3: Learning you were admiring this. This I was, Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: I tried, because you're smooth, you're personable.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm trying to. I'm trying.

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Speaker 4: What what's crazy is? I can't think of one. He

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Speaker 4: He's responsible with with this defense. He always brings his

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Speaker 3: So, no, he's not.

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Speaker 4: He's not dipping in, roll in and all those things. Now,

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Speaker 6: What about Ugus, he's again not so much weakness, but

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Speaker 4: He does something that I wouldn't teach a fighter to do.

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Speaker 4: Guys who aren't built up to take punches on their

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Speaker 4: I don't like that game.

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Speaker 6: Let me pick your brain a little bit more. Now,

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying these two fighters are equivalent. In fact,

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Speaker 6: And if you go back to that fight, Lamont was

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm glad that you brought that up with lamon

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Speaker 4: Aerospence knew how to set up the openings though here

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about how live and Underdog Hugs

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Speaker 1: is because I thought it could be a trapped fight

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Speaker 1: the sixty percent of power punches landed he held many

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Speaker 2: Like that's company box wild yea.

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Speaker 1: So it's easy to say if the same spence shows

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Speaker 2: Does that increase his live live dog factor?

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Speaker 4: I would say, right now, this is a sixty five

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Speaker 5: Does that even add them? Know? That doesn't thirty five?

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Speaker 5: And then then this left It was fine with the

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Speaker 4: Fifty five, right, okay, yes, that's what I mean, forty

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Speaker 5: My math was off. This is a forty five fifty

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's fifty to fifty, but it's that

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Speaker 5: Tomorrow night.

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Speaker 4: I think what we got from Ugas in Pakiao, we

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Speaker 4: He was razor sharp, He was able to keep many

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Speaker 5: And yes to Uga man, he's credit.

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Speaker 4: He didn't really do much of what he usually does

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Speaker 4: and that worked against him. But I think Ugas proved

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Speaker 4: depending on who's across from him. With that being said,

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Speaker 4: I believe this is a fifty five to forty five fight.

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Speaker 3: I think it's going the distance.

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Speaker 1: I think there's some thriller potential, high skill, high pace,

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Speaker 1: because Hugas he gets up in your in your business,

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Speaker 5: He does.

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Speaker 4: So it's gonna be up to the three judges. You

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Speaker 4: spin no, you know what I mean. Like even when

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Speaker 4: I took the fight, you tried, you try was it

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: So I'm really curious to see what got what their

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Speaker 1: Does you guys have a better chance trying to outbox

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Speaker 4: If you if you watch my fight with Spence, I

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Speaker 5: Became do both. I don't.

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Speaker 4: I think, if anything, you should try to box him

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean? What do we do?

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Speaker 4: We put the logs in before, and then we put

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Speaker 5: Even right into the fire, something bad might happen.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what hipster take is more accurate here, because you've

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Speaker 1: been in some close fight senior times that maybe Sean Porter.

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Speaker 2: Did enough to beat Eryl Spence, or maybe they kind.

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Speaker 1: Of robbed us against you you settled.

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Speaker 4: Maybe let's let's be I think I think I think

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Speaker 4: I did enough to be aero Spence. I don't think

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Speaker 4: they robbed ugas I think.

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Speaker 1: I mean, do you send Jack Reese a Christmas card

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Speaker 1: for missing that twelfth round?

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Speaker 3: Knockdout?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it wasn't a knockdown. It wasn't a knockdown because.

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Speaker 3: I mean, so here here, here was my thing a

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Speaker 5: It was clearly a slip.

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Speaker 4: I think on every angle that you can find, you

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Speaker 4: I'm not hurt, and I don't think that anybody in

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Speaker 3: You know, it was there. It was the corner head

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Speaker 4: It was a wet night, you know, it was it

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Speaker 4: I think I squeaked by that moment and you know

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Speaker 1: matchups that you, twenty years from now will tell the

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Speaker 1: grand kids?

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Speaker 3: Man I wish.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, Floyd, you tried, everybody tried, but other

448
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Speaker 1: is there anything?

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Speaker 3: Many? Is there anything?

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Speaker 4: My thing once I fought these guys that my thing

451
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Speaker 4: was just.

452
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Speaker 5: Like move forward and be better on the next one.

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Speaker 4: So when I thought Keith and people were to screaming rematch,

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Speaker 4: I was like, that was great, Like why do we

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Speaker 4: need a rematch?

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Like what are the rematches? And that's good or whatever

458
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Speaker 4: the case may be. And then you know, we moved forward.

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Speaker 4: People wanted to rematch with Earrow. I was like, I

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Speaker 4: want Terrence and now of course people you know what

461
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Speaker 4: rematch would you want? I believe at one point we did, uh.

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Speaker 4: We did the press conference for Manny and Arrow before

463
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Speaker 4: everything happened, and Arrow and I didn't get the fight.

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Speaker 4: Myself and Keith were in LA together and we were talking.

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Speaker 3: Oh, we were talking shit.

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Speaker 4: And I thought that I might be moving towards and

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Speaker 4: rematch with Keith. And then things started to move into

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Speaker 4: motion with me and and Terrence, and I was very

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Speaker 4: happy about that. So I think that if I came back,

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Speaker 4: I think probably the most promoted, best promoted boxing match

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Speaker 4: that I could have would be against Keith.

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Speaker 2: I was on CBS, by the way, like five million.

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Speaker 6: I remember, I remember distinctly. Are so for Spence if

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Speaker 6: he ends up winning? If he's talking to you like,

475
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Speaker 6: you know no boxing?

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Speaker 3: Who me?

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Speaker 5: This guy?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't know boxing like him. I don't know

479
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Speaker 3: boxing like him. I can't. I came from MA, so

480
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Speaker 3: I can take a fist to it for you.

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Speaker 5: How about that?

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Speaker 3: Thank you?

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Speaker 6: I appreciate that. So yeah, jerk job, fuck is wrong

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Speaker 6: with you? Whyn't you go eat some gas station?

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Speaker 3: Fo?

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Speaker 2: I got this spot on my crotchet?

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Speaker 6: Why don't you stop urinating in your pants? Question for you,

488
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Speaker 6: is you fought Spence? You fought Uh? Obviously, Bud Crawford.

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Speaker 6: We don't know what's gonna happen with BUD. I don't

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Speaker 6: know where else he could sign to get the fights

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Speaker 6: the matter, but separate conversation. Lets he signs with PVC

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Speaker 6: and they have Spence versus Crawford. Everyone's asked you about it,

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Speaker 6: but really, how how does that fight look in your brain?

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Speaker 4: I haven't looked at it much, but a lot like

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Speaker 4: like I said about this fight, whoever can control the

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Speaker 4: range in the distance, that's who will win the fight.

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Speaker 5: That's that's that's a pure boxing match.

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Speaker 4: I believe we get we get aggression, more aggression from

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Speaker 4: Arrow in that fight. We get great boxing from Terrence,

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Speaker 4: and at the moment, that's a coin toss in terms

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Speaker 4: of who wins at the end of the.

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Speaker 3: Name different styles, But are they equivalent and fight?

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Speaker 5: I are they are? They are very very much so equivalent.

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Speaker 4: If I had to say one was what had more

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Speaker 4: intellect and was more intelligent in the ring, I would

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Speaker 4: say that I saw more better, said I could see

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Speaker 4: the thinking in the eyes of Terrence Crawford.

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Speaker 2: My boy, tell me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: I framed it that Spence is the pinnacle of what

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Speaker 1: you can do as a South Paul with a.

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Speaker 2: Conventional, well rounded game.

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Speaker 1: But Crawford's the abstract painter who can do ship that

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Speaker 1: you didn't think.

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Speaker 6: Puts himself in harm's way sometimes to get the shots

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Speaker 6: that he wants. It's a little unusual to see that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if he did that against me.

517
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Speaker 4: Maybe he did, but but he does. It's it's almost

518
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Speaker 4: like he's he's willing to kind of take those shots.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's he's the picture that's willing to throw

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Speaker 4: the fast pall. No matter what you're you're not a

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Speaker 4: tattoo guy. I'm not tattoos. I tell people I got

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Speaker 4: two tattoos.

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Speaker 5: Birth marks.

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Speaker 1: You got a couple of tattoos from here from the

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Speaker 1: time in the game, L was full the full back.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot of work.

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Speaker 5: It's aggressive, uh. I mean he looks good with it.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: I just never wanted to do the tattoo thing. And

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Speaker 4: I'm not against him or not against anyone that does them,

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Speaker 4: but to see him get all of that, like start

532
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Speaker 4: start slow, but he was just like, I'm going for it.

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Speaker 3: It's a bit back, large commitment.

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Speaker 5: That's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: We're we are trying to improve in the pod game

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Speaker 5: So yeah, you're based out of Vegas. Yes, sir, the

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Speaker 5: podcast is moving on up.

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Speaker 3: Good for you, Thank.

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Speaker 2: You, No pardon man, that's good. I could talk to

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Speaker 2: you for hours.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know. This was great. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for stopping by. Do you have a final prediction? Are

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Speaker 1: you willing to do well?

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Speaker 6: Because we were talking on the stage here when we

558
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Speaker 6: did the way ins and some folks go to distance.

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Speaker 5: I think it goes the distance.

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Speaker 3: What about you?

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Speaker 4: I never I really don't like making predictions. I like

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Speaker 4: to tell you all why it happened. But I see

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Speaker 4: this probably going to distance, and I believe that this

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Speaker 4: Aerospence will win this fight.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, me too.

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Speaker 5: If it doesn't go to distance. I see Aerospence.

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Speaker 6: You know what, I've noticed a lot of people give

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Speaker 6: us his flowers, like Okay, he's good, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 3: I don't see a lot of people picking him.

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Speaker 5: I'm not.

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Speaker 4: I'm not picking him, but I'm definitely not comming him out.

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Speaker 4: Sure if the first round and everybody's like, oh, guy's.

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Speaker 5: Won that round, I'm like, yeah, he won that round,

574
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Speaker 5: like he's.

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Speaker 4: Good, you know what I mean. So I just I'm

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Speaker 4: I believe in both corners. To wrap it up for me,

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Speaker 4: I believe in both corners. Uh, Derek James and Silas

578
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Speaker 4: or two of I think the number one of two

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Speaker 4: of the fighter men in boxing and coach.

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Speaker 3: Coach you're talking?

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Speaker 5: Yes, Uh.

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Speaker 4: With that being said, I believe they're gonna have some

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Speaker 4: work and cut out for them on fight night.

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Adjustments upon adjustments.

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Speaker 4: They are the college professors that are willing to come

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Speaker 4: to the classroom and teach and make adjustments round at

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Speaker 4: the round.

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Speaker 5: So it's gonna be a great fight.

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Speaker 3: Good good ship, Porter, Thank you for doing pleasure. Thank

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Speaker 3: you so much for stopping. We got to talk m

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Speaker 3: m A now. But I don't think you want to

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Speaker 3: talk about my.

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Speaker 5: Hair when I leave. I know that boy already been

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Speaker 5: porn if something.

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Speaker 2: Look look coming back. Look, people have been talking about

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Speaker 2: your suits. I had to defend you, Stephen Jackson.

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Speaker 3: Stephen Jackson saying about your suit.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's great stuff that.

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Speaker 3: Look at that, Look at that just kicks right there.

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Speaker 1: Special thanks, of course to Sean Porter, who's having a

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Speaker 1: really awful hair day. But he's a great man. He's

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Speaker 1: a great man. On top of that, Luke, we saw

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Speaker 1: them on the scales. If anybody's tuning in late, we

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Speaker 1: just hosted the Live Way in which you can watch

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Speaker 1: on Showtimes YouTube channel.

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Speaker 2: It was us too.

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Speaker 1: It was Rabul, Marcus, Stephen Jackson, special guests from the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, Michael Parsons, the defensive Rookie of the Year

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Speaker 1: was in the house. So big stars, big events. Luke

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Speaker 1: got chucked into my hotel room and looked at.

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Speaker 3: That very view. Yeah, I got a great Texas live

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Speaker 3: in the house.

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Speaker 1: A lot of MK fans. I think I hope we're

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Speaker 1: lingering around here as just fans. I've been told some

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Speaker 1: nice things. But look, the whole point is this fight matters, Luke.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about it, dude. In the last forty years,

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Speaker 1: really since we've been alive, welter Waite is the king

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Speaker 1: division boxing. Heavyweight comes and goes right, It injects the

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Speaker 1: sport and then it leaves. But this is just the

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Speaker 1: twelfth welterweight unification fight in history in this division. And

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Speaker 1: we're talking about fights like Leonard Hearns, like De la Joya, Trinidad, Pacquiao, Mayweather.

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Speaker 1: Maybe this one doesn't have that same name sex appeal,

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Speaker 1: but it.

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Speaker 2: Is steaks wise, three or four titles at stakes.

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Speaker 1: The potential of the winner fighting Terrence Crawford. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it feels as big as it gets, Luke. And as

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Speaker 1: we talked about with those shredded bodies on stage, men,

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Speaker 1: no stone left un turned from the en, No, not

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Speaker 1: at all.

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Speaker 3: Those guys look to be in tremendous condition.

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Speaker 6: And again you heard Erol Spence talk about the weight

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Speaker 6: cut and how it went so much better this time, and.

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Speaker 3: You know, you get guys at this level.

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying that every training camp is perfect, every

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Speaker 6: weight cut is perfect, but you know as well as

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Speaker 6: I do, if they're this deep into the game and

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Speaker 6: they're this elite. They cross every te they dot every eye.

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Speaker 6: You never have to worry about it. It's never a thing.

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Speaker 6: So and I have to say to your point, like,

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Speaker 6: you know, does it carry the same Paqiao Mayweather name value?

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Speaker 3: No, it does not.

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Speaker 6: But dude, you ask anybody who's a boxing insider about

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Speaker 6: their excitement on this one. Even if they're picking Errol Spence,

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Speaker 6: there's a little bit of trepidation in their voice because

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Speaker 6: you have so you have such tactically and intelligent fighters,

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Speaker 6: you have guys who can do that kind of thing.

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Speaker 6: And dude, on top of that, you know, I would

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Speaker 6: just say, personally, this is maybe a strong way to

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Speaker 6: put it, but I dude, Errol Spence, We'll see what

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Speaker 6: version of it we get. ERL Spence. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 6: say he's a boxing genius, but he's pretty close. He's

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Speaker 6: pretty close to that. He is telling you incredibly good.

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Speaker 2: He's on his way to.

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Speaker 6: Being in all time and all TI and Ugus doesn't

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Speaker 6: have that kind of resume, but he's.

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Speaker 3: So tricky and technical and.

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Speaker 6: Skilled that if you're not on your game, he'll eat

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Speaker 6: you alive. And so It's such an interesting moment with

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Speaker 6: all the questions, with all the difficulties, with the combining

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Speaker 6: of the weight class titles world. The only one left

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Speaker 6: after this will be of course the winner here will

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Speaker 6: have three.

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Speaker 5: But the outside of that is Terrence Crawford.

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Speaker 3: That is it.

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Speaker 6: So it is huge steaks, huge fight, really important. I've

667
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Speaker 6: been telling all my friends this is the boxing fight

668
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Speaker 6: to make time for.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely and it's it's like, look, you look at the

670
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: betting odds as they stand now, Errol Spence a monus

671
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: five fifty favorite. Your Dennis Ugats plus four hundred for

672
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Speaker 1: boxing terms, with which has wider odds. That's not awful,

673
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: but it's still pretty wide. But here's the thing you

674
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: got to ask yourself. It's like, did I expect you

675
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: guys to fight that good against Sean Porter a couple

676
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Speaker 1: of years ago.

677
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 3: No.

678
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 1: He came on in the second half, made the adjustment,

679
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: start walking Porter down, and as we talked about, might

680
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: have dropped Porter.

681
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 3: And deserved maybe a winning nod.

682
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: Then he comes in against Pacquiao in late notice last

683
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 1: fall and we're going, okay, Pacio is still the favorite,

684
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: but that's based on the pakiav from two years earlier

685
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: against Keith Thurman neuad and fought during the pandemic. And

686
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: you saw statistically what your dear Dennis Hugas did. I mean,

687
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: he in a fight that was close in the end

688
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 1: on the scores. What your eyes saw though was a

689
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 1: fair not one sided, but a clear victory. I didn't

690
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: think he was going to be able to dictate the

691
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: terms of his offense against Pacquiao the way he did.

692
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: And Luke, how your Dennis Hugas does.

693
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Speaker 1: That is the high guard getting in close on you

694
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: but never leaving himself open. His defensive responsibility for a

695
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 1: guy who puts the pressure on you is very very

696
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: interesting to watch. You don't I bring up the Winki

697
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: righte comparison. You don't see a lot of fighters these

698
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: days who aren't brawlers, who are able to hide behind

699
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: that big, that high guard and get in punching range

700
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Speaker 1: and stay there against the leaf fight.

701
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Speaker 5: He doesn't.

702
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Speaker 6: To what Sean Porter said, you watch the tape on

703
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 6: Ugas and it's pretty clear he doesn't move a ton.

704
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 6: He is what he does move in terms of whatever

705
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 6: punch he throws orever, the lateral movement with his feet

706
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 6: and his forward by the way we should talk about

707
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 6: it his footwork. He's not a dynamic mover, but his

708
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 6: footwork is very precise. Where he takes a step, and

709
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 6: how far he takes a step, and how he balances

710
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 6: his weight.

711
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 3: All of it carries massive implications.

712
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: Here, what you mean is sometimes a half step to

713
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: the right, unload of punch, yeah, and right back into

714
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: It's not.

715
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Speaker 6: A ton of movement, but what is moved is extremely precise.

716
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,719
Speaker 6: And for that reason, by the way, we don't talk

717
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 6: about this, that keeps his cardio up as well, because

718
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 6: he doesn't do a ton to tire himself out. His

719
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 6: defense is stout, as you mentioned, a great judge of distance,

720
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 6: a great judge of angles, dude, Arrel Spence. I think

721
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 6: he's gonna in the end be a little bit too

722
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 6: much for Ugas, But the.

723
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Speaker 3: Early going those are going to be very problems to solve.

724
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Speaker 1: That's the thing about picking against Ugas here. If you're

725
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: telling me, I'm getting a prime version of Spence. If

726
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: it's possibly true that thirty two he can be better

727
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: than he was in the past because the preparation is

728
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: better in the commitment, Okay, I certainly like his chances.

729
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: He's the rightful favorite. But Ugus has spent a whole

730
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: career proving people wrong. Right leaving Cuba, you know, on

731
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: a treacherous journey which every Cuban you know exiling has

732
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: some wild story that they've overcome. And then what I

733
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: don't think has talked about enough Hugas in twenty fourteen,

734
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: ish is this interesting prospect with a Cuban amateur background,

735
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: but loses two in a row. He suddenly fifteen and three,

736
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: takes two years off of the game, and then comes

737
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: back and goes on the win streak that he's on.

738
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 2: He's six in one against left handers overall.

739
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: Who goats The only lost game against Emmanuel Robloss way

740
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: back during that losing streak, and it was so early

741
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: in his rise.

742
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 2: He got dropped. He faded late. He doesn't do that anymore.

743
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: He's such an interesting test for anybody, but he has

744
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: the potential to make this such an interesting chess match

745
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: for Spence. So if I try to get in my

746
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: mind's eyes looking and figure out what is this fight

747
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: going to look like? I asked Jean's porter this. I

748
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: want to ask you this because I think it's a

749
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: tilted question. If Ugas's plan is to try to out

750
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Speaker 1: box Spence. I think he loses by decision and he

751
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: doesn't win this. If his idea is to come out brawling,

752
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: it's not who he is, but Luke, I think Ugas

753
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: needs a high pressure that's right, a close instance high

754
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: pressure style, high behind the guard. Yes, you gotta be

755
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: responsible on the defense. Yes, the body shots from Spence

756
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: could be killer. But Spence's weapon is the jab. He

757
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: is the most prolific and most accurate jabber among Welterwait's

758
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: according to Punk compybots in the game. But now this

759
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: is a south paw writing matchup. The job's not going

760
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: to be as effective. If Ugas can get inside and

761
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: make Spence.

762
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Speaker 3: Oh, I think the jab is going to be effected.

763
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: I don't mean make Spence brawl him, but maybe do

764
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: what Sean Porter did, make the action fighter of Spence

765
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Speaker 1: come out.

766
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 2: I believe that is Ugas's best chance to win the fight.

767
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 5: Do you agree with me?

768
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 6: I do agree. I do agree completely. I mean, just

769
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 6: think about it rationally. We talk about this all the

770
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 6: time in MMA, but the same it's it's a similar

771
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 6: rule for boxing, but a little bit different because I'd

772
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 6: believe that the guys in boxing have better footwork and

773
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 6: better ring craft to move around, So it's a little

774
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 6: bit less true, but still true.

775
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 3: Dude.

776
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 6: If Errol Spence has room to move to set up jabs,

777
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 6: to angle off, to work into bodywork, you guys have

778
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 6: to understand something. Spence is very good about lining up

779
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 6: things and then changing the angle of it ever so slightly,

780
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 6: so it's the same combination of work sometimes, but then

781
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 6: now the targeting of the where he's hitting it is

782
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 6: totally different. He is able to mix these in in

783
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 6: a very unpredictable kind of way, so that's really difficult

784
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 6: for him. So if he's able or that's a really

785
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 6: strong thing of him, so he's able to move a lot,

786
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 6: if he's able to time the jab and work off

787
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 6: the angles, it's hard to see exactly how Ugus can

788
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 6: win that. Conversely, if Ugus can control not just the

789
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 6: real estate between himself and Spence, but the real estate

790
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Speaker 6: behind Spence, dude, I think it's gonna be key. Not

791
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 6: just getting Spence up against the ropes. You gotta work

792
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 6: up against the ropes. Those are valuable moments he's gonna

793
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 6: have to take clear advantage of. And if he does,

794
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 6: if he really can work him over there. That's gonna

795
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,479
Speaker 6: be a bare re tough thing for Spence to deal with.

796
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 6: So pay attention the distance between them, and then what's

797
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 6: behind Spence if he's got all that room to move that.

798
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was or see a fund

799
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,239
Speaker 1: that when Spence purposely stood on the outside and out

800
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: box him and said, I want to prove to you

801
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: what I can do.

802
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 2: Right, Ugas is gonna have to make that.

803
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: Look all championship adjustments are needed in to fight this big.

804
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,959
Speaker 1: But there's an equation for Ugas that's I think might

805
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: be tough to swallow. It's this, even if he executes

806
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: his game plan to perfection, if Spence has no lingering

807
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: effects from the things that have held him back, it

808
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: still might not be enough to be.

809
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 6: I believe that's absolutely correct. He's got to go in

810
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 6: there and do more than well, I don't know what

811
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 6: the game plan is. If the game plan is to

812
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 6: back up Spence, then yes, you could do everything you

813
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 6: game plan for and then you might win. But I

814
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,719
Speaker 6: think if even if he's still successful in counterboxing at times,

815
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 6: that won't be enough. You really have to control aerol space.

816
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: But Spence's chain is so good nobody really hurts him.

817
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: That's the problem.

818
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 6: Fair enough, But he's also thirty three with the time off,

819
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 6: and he's in good ship. I'm not expecting the chin

820
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 6: to deteriorate, but at a at a bare minimum, you

821
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 6: got to test it.

822
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 3: You have to, you have to. You have to make.

823
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 6: Spence second guests because if he can just begin to

824
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 6: build off the jab, then the jab to the body work, dude,

825
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 6: he is going to be off to the races.

826
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: He's gonna be off to the race, dude.

827
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 6: He and he has so his targeting of the body

828
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 6: is so precise. Also, one thing we don't talk about enough.

829
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 6: I kind of went into it a little bit. The

830
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 6: lead hand of Errol Spence does a ton of work.

831
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 6: It doesn't just jab with it. As you mentioned, he

832
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 6: is prodigious with it, landing seven jabs around whereas most

833
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 6: walter weights are somewhere around five per round. So he's

834
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 6: he's more active with it, and he lands with it

835
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 6: and all the offense builds, but he controls with it.

836
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 3: Pay attention to the lead hand. Why do I bring

837
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 3: this up?

838
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 6: Because a lot of times he'll grab the gloves down

839
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 6: like a hand trap. He'll pin the hands to them.

840
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 6: He'll use his own glove to blind and hold and push.

841
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 6: By the way, that time he knocked down Sean Porter,

842
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 6: pay attention, he has his hand here. He pushes down

843
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 6: on Sean Porter and that that's when the punch came through.

844
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 6: So what I'm trying to point out here is if

845
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 6: Ugas is doing a lot of this, let's see what

846
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 6: Spence does with that lead hand to grab the hand,

847
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,959
Speaker 6: to pin the hand, to move it away.

848
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 3: He's very active with it. I'm looking for that as well.

849
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Speaker 1: As always more content we give you YouTube dot com Slash

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Speaker 1: Morning Combat can get Luke's entire dissected breakdown of both

851
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Speaker 1: Ugas and Spence's biggest wins on how that might play

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Speaker 1: into Saturday's fight House. I have an interview with Spence's trainer,

853
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Speaker 1: Derek James that you can check out as well.

854
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Speaker 2: Luke, we're gonna get into the prediction.

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Speaker 1: per view main card, which also has Eurreerica Scamboa, the

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Speaker 1: saw Cruise against Davonte Davis. He missed wait the first

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Speaker 1: time around, now to come back a second time, that's

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Speaker 1: something to watch. We got hose Acido Lopez going in

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Speaker 1: there against unbeaten Jose Vealezuela and also Cody Crowley twenty

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Speaker 1: and oh the Welterway first big step up test against

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Speaker 1: Jose Seedo Lopez. But Luke, we also have a two

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Speaker 1: fight I don't want to call it a preview card

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Speaker 1: ahead of this pay per view. It goes down seven

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Speaker 1: pm Eastern on Saturday on both regular Showtime and on

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Speaker 1: Showtime's YouTube channel. It's a special Showtime Championship Boxing Edition

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Speaker 1: two fights. I'll be on the call along with my

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Speaker 1: Farhood and Luke. This main event for the secondary WBA

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Speaker 1: walterweight title, which has Radjabayev against Stannis my Lithuanian Montes

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Speaker 1: stanionis Luke.

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Speaker 3: This.

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Speaker 2: There's gonna be fireworks in this one, so definitely check

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Speaker 2: that one.

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Speaker 6: This is fun if you have Showtime you can watch

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Speaker 6: it on Showtime. If not, you can hear BC Rold

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Speaker 6: Marquez is Barry Tompkins on the calls. Absolutely Yeah, so

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00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 6: they're gonna be calling that those are free. Those are

883
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Speaker 6: just to get.

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Speaker 3: Seven pm them Eastern tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Check that out, Luke main event pick and obviously this

886
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Speaker 1: is a monster weekend for Showtime sports in general. We're

887
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: gonna get to the Bellator card, which is tonight in

888
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: a second, along with UFC Spence. You got who wins

889
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: and why.

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00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go Errol Spence. I think Errol Spence is

891
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 6: a back again. If he's not a genius, he's pretty

892
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 6: goddamn close to it. I think he has got way

893
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 6: too many tools to win. I like everyone else, I

894
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 6: recognize we are probably underestimating Ugas on some level. We're

895
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 6: gonna see what that level is on Saturday Night. But

896
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,439
Speaker 6: you're asking me for the pick. I'm gonna go Aerol

897
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 6: Spence by decision. Yeah, Saturday Night.

898
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: I like Spence by decision. I think it'll be unanimous.

899
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: I think it'll be close. There's gonna be ebbs and flows,

900
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: there's gonna be adjustments that are needed. I do think

901
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: Ugas will surprise but there's another surprise that can happen.

902
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: The Spence is even better than we think he is.

903
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: And you say, BC, how is that possible. He's already

904
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: got the best resume of welterweights right now. Look, I

905
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: still don't think that man er El Spence has been

906
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: pushed to the absolute limit of what's in Sean Porter

907
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: came close pulled that dog out of him. If the

908
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: best what I'm saying is the better Ugas performs, the

909
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: better Spence will perform across from him.

910
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 6: Also, I would say I've seen Spence tested physically. Ugas

911
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 6: will test the physically as well. But I think Ugas

912
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 6: also has a little bit more of a mental stress. Yes,

913
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 6: and so that'll be interesting because you know, kel Brook

914
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 6: was physical, Sean Porter was physical at least for parts

915
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 6: of that fight. Ugas is not exactly going to unless

916
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 6: he just you know, Spence falls off a cliff.

917
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 3: But that'll be interesting. That's been such a great fight.

918
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 3: Can't wait.

919
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Speaker 1: Saturday night, nine pm Eastern Showtime pay per view Showtime though, Wow,

920
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: the Home of Combat Sports not just Stuff, puts out

921
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: great award winning podcast like the one you're watching right now.

922
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: But tonight, San Jose no is this San Jose, California,

923
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: Bellatour two seven to seven and.

924
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Speaker 2: Luke, this is a a h A double.

925
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 3: Main event they're calling it.

926
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: And these two title fights, I mean, they could headline

927
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: any MMA card in the world. Aj McKee Patricio Pitpoll

928
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: two for the Belloto MMA featherweight title. They met in

929
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: the finals of the World Grand Prix last year, and Luke,

930
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: within what a minute and some change, we saw aj

931
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: McKee put it on the damn pitple, the face of

932
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 1: the franchise, the greatest fighter pound for pound in Belatore history,

933
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: and it was over like that guillotine choke.

934
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 2: He basically took the best fighter pound.

935
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Speaker 1: For pound in that company, put him in his own

936
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: finishing move and choked him out after beating him down.

937
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, I mean, you know that's fine.

938
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: We don't need it, Luke, as it pertained, I don't

939
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: even think people realize how great the second fight was.

940
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: The first fight on paper was rightfully the best fight

941
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: in Beljio history. They're still right there. One and two

942
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: more or less power the best fight in Belgi. No, No,

943
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: it's the biggest, the biggest, most biggest, But.

944
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 6: Even then that's not true. Because Kimbo was bigger. But

945
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 6: I know you love that point.

946
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: The whole point about the stakes, the name, the homegrown,

947
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: all that Luke as we enter into this rematch is

948
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: it is it as easy to say we're gonna find

949
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: out the answers that we didn't learn the first time

950
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: around because McKee was just that efficient and that quick

951
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: and that good.

952
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 6: Well we can't. So there's a real possibility of it.

953
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 6: There's a lot of debate like what would have happened

954
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 6: if Askarn would not have been need in the head

955
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Speaker 6: by Jorge Maslow.

956
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 3: Would he have won Connor against all? Though?

957
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 5: What about a second fight?

958
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: Have look me against you? If I put that ship

959
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 2: in and it just went after.

960
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 6: I mean, you would need the rematch, not me. But

961
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 6: the point I'm trying to make here is the first fight.

962
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 6: I can't say it's not representative what happened. Happened a

963
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 6: j McKee went and did that to Pitbull. But you

964
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 6: got understand something about Pitbull in particular, he's the rematch king.

965
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 6: He fought Strauss three times. I think Current a couple

966
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 6: of times, if not more than that, Vishal several times,

967
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 6: four times. Strauss is four for sure. That four times

968
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 6: they fought. The guy gets better in rematches. Here's the

969
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 6: thing for me, BC, here's what I'm watching for.

970
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 3: Dude.

971
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 6: AJ McKee is so fast and so explosive and so

972
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 6: full of confidence. He went in there and just I'm

973
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 6: not saying he didn't take pit Bull seriously, but he

974
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 6: went in there fully in command of his own greatness,

975
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 6: like I'm this is, i am inevitable, I'm thanos, if

976
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 6: I'm Pitbull, I think you have to respect that a

977
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 6: little bit. He needs to go in there and pit

978
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 6: Bull is well rounded at this point. He's used to

979
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 6: getting people out there with the hands. I think this

980
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 6: time you should wrestle AJ McKee. A. J McKee has

981
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 6: shown some weaknesses, not so much like he's.

982
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 2: A bad wrestler, but ack in Belatar Derek.

983
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 6: Campos was was arguably I'm not gonna say, beating him,

984
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 6: but was taking him down and kind of giving him

985
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 6: problems up until he got triangled in the third round.

986
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 6: Darien Caldwell is a guy who can wrestle like what

987
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 6: Gleason Tebow did to Young Habib.

988
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 3: No.

989
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 6: Because Campos took down McKee like McKee was off of

990
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 6: his back for several rounds. So what I'm pointing out

991
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 6: it even if Pipple can't do that, you don't have

992
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 6: to hold him down.

993
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 5: But dude, you got to make McKee face doubt.

994
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 6: If you got to make McKee back up, you have

995
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 6: to make McKee go to second third order attacks. If

996
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 6: he can just go out there and then flow with

997
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 6: it like he does, dude, he's gonna be his range.

998
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

999
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 6: Have you noticed how well a guy like McKee, with

1000
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 6: his speed and his decision making can cover distance.

1001
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 3: It's like lightning. He can do it. You got to

1002
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 3: take that away from him.

1003
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 1: If McKee is able to have a similar mind blowing

1004
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: minute and a half of fish and finish where you're

1005
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: just like, what the damn hell I mean? Is he

1006
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: the he called he already called himself the Mayweather of Mma.

1007
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: Is he like the Tiger Woods of m A if

1008
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: that happens, I mean, we look, I mean hyperbole.

1009
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 3: Is Wood has made two billion dollars.

1010
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: There's a degree he got a libido and a half too.

1011
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 2: Okay, there are degrees luke of of hyperbole here.

1012
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: But if AJ McKee beats Pipple a second time, and

1013
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: if he does it in any way, that's thorough and convincing.

1014
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, we are forget about this idea of.

1015
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: Oh, whoever wins this light Heavyweight Grand Prix could be

1016
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 1: the best light heavyweight in the world.

1017
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: Mckey's among the best fighters on the globe.

1018
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 6: You beat Pitbull twice, and especially if you do it

1019
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 6: by stoppage twice, I don't think folks understand how good

1020
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 6: that is.

1021
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 3: And again, I'm gonna repeat it one more time.

1022
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 6: When they met in the finals of the Featherweight Grand Prix, understand,

1023
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 6: Pitbull didn't limp his way in there. He beat the

1024
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 6: shit out of everyone to face all Sanchez, dude, he

1025
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 6: just ran over the folks they put in front of him.

1026
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 6: So he's still a viable contender in this particular case,

1027
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 6: but he's still very much with it. This is going

1028
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 6: to be a for a guy who is known for

1029
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 6: performing much better in rematches. And also we should say

1030
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 6: this pressure is on both guys. Pressure is on Pitbull.

1031
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 6: You don't get this one back. Hard to know where

1032
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 6: you go.

1033
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: From Well, we start talking about what other big money

1034
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: fights are left in your career. That's where we start

1035
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: talking to us, right, Yeah, if he wins this and

1036
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: wins back the title, we're probably talking about a trilogy

1037
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: with Mickey. So look, I want the key to be

1038
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: tested here. I want this to go rounds. I want

1039
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: to find out exactly what he's made of. I want

1040
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: him on his back. I want to see a lot

1041
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: of these different scenarios. Again again, I still step around.

1042
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 1: Did we want to see the well roundedness.

1043
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 3: But McKee might be that great to get them out

1044
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 3: of there.

1045
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: All right, Well see agent McKee minus three thirty five

1046
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: your betting favorite Patricio Pitbull plus two sixty.

1047
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 3: It's pretty high.

1048
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: You gotta love McKee.

1049
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 1: But dude, if I'm a gambler and I'm not Luke,

1050
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: because I'm a cheap bastard, you know that about me?

1051
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's a character for I'm a cheap Yeah,

1052
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: fucking skate yakay, because I've been skating on sneakers, no

1053
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: wheels to Kanye, as my wife would okay, Yeah, gringo

1054
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,240
Speaker 1: to Kanye, a right to Kanye, Yeah, gringo to Kanye.

1055
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. We met a couple of Colombians here, we did

1056
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 3: all right? We did? They recognized you, they did? They

1057
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 3: I understand these people.

1058
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: Uh, Luke, you know, if I was a gambler, I

1059
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: might be throwing plus money here at Pipple. If you're

1060
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: a pit bull, though, how do you win this wrestling

1061
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: you mentioned? Is does it behoove you to try to

1062
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: brawl McKee? Or is that just walking into a spiderweb?

1063
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: Leave a message and I'll call you back.

1064
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's definitely the old Gwen Stefani nineteen

1065
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 6: ninety six. No doubt, bro, no doubt about it. Yeah, dude,

1066
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 6: I mean, I just feel like I'm not saying that.

1067
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 6: It's kind of crazy. Isn't it crazy to say? I

1068
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 6: don't know if pit bull can win a striking match

1069
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 6: with ajmckey, i's crazy.

1070
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 3: Crazy, then you crazy? But do you agree with me?

1071
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 6: At least to start, you got to slow McKee down.

1072
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 6: If McKee has all that youthful energy and ability and confidence,

1073
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 6: you're fighting one version of him you have to have.

1074
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 6: You have to have a little bit of patience, drain

1075
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 6: him and then start to fight. And then if you

1076
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 6: do that, it's a very much a different ballgame.

1077
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: Well, McKee has let his intentions and know and he

1078
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: plans on beating Patricio a second time, then moving up

1079
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: to lightweight and facing his brother Petricky to become a

1080
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 1: two division title holder. And why this is relevant because

1081
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: we've had an interesting couple days for McKee doing the

1082
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: media round, specifically with Ariel Hawani on the MMA Hour,

1083
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: Luke aj McKee reporting that he has turned down contract

1084
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: extension offers from Bellatore. He says he wants one million

1085
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 1: per fight as his minimum. He said Bellatour has offered

1086
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: as high as five hundred thousand. That was are all

1087
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: kind of yanking and getting it out of him, and

1088
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: he's claiming Belatour has only offered two fifty for this

1089
00:43:58,719 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: fight which he took.

1090
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 2: You're saying, well, what's really going on here?

1091
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: Technically his Blotar contract is over, but because he won

1092
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: the championship, the championship clauses kicked in per Aeriel. This

1093
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: is fight one of a three fight extension extension based

1094
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 1: on winning the championship. It's hard to have this conversation

1095
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: because we don't know if he's gonna win this fight, right,

1096
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: So that happens tonight Beltore two seventy seven on SHOWTIWN.

1097
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out if you are Scott Coker and company,

1098
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what the answer is.

1099
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 2: Can you afford one million per.

1100
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: Fight for a special, special, special talent that could be

1101
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: the face of your franchise.

1102
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 2: For a long ass time.

1103
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 6: I mean, here's what you have to realize. Folks are like,

1104
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 6: you know, oh, well, there's two things I've seen. Oh

1105
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 6: AJ's asking for too much money. No he's not, No

1106
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 6: he's not. He's undefeated, came up through Belatore entirely and

1107
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 6: beat Patricio pitpull the overall up to that point and

1108
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 6: maybe even still now the greatest fighter in Beltore history.

1109
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 6: He did it like nothing that he should be commanding

1110
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 6: numbers like that. But the question you have to ask

1111
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 6: yourself is, if you look at the numbers, Belatour gives

1112
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 6: out about forty five forty six percent of their overall

1113
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 6: revenue two fighters. The margin for how much they can

1114
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 6: add to that is pretty thin. So while I completely

1115
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 6: understand Bellatore saying, well, two fifty is what we've got,

1116
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 6: I also understand Aj mccke being like, right, not good enough.

1117
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 6: What I would say is if Belatore, if he wins,

1118
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 6: Belatore has to do everything possible to keep him, which

1119
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 6: means also probably calling up the people at CBS and saying.

1120
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 3: Paramount or paramount, what do we got to do?

1121
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 6: To get him on your network because we need you

1122
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 6: to help pay for him. And I think that's legitimate

1123
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 6: and real and if they'll put that on the table,

1124
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 6: I honestly don't know how they retain him.

1125
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: I mean, look, if you're talking, look, will there always

1126
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: be the want for someone this great to go to

1127
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: the UFC and test hm stuff. Of course, he's also

1128
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: Hella young. We see the intention that he has of beating.

1129
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 3: Patricia super smart, we should say the super smart.

1130
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: And look, I don't think it's out of the realm

1131
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 1: for him to move to welterweight one day and challenge

1132
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: for a title there.

1133
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 3: I don't.

1134
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 2: I mean it's crazy, but crazy right now.

1135
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: If his skill is really that great, don't I don't

1136
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: have limits for him in that regard. There are big fights,

1137
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: there's a CBS connection, maybe there's the boxing crossover.

1138
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 2: There's a lot you can potentially do.

1139
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 1: But it will be a very important negotiation in this

1140
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: world of lack of fighter pay, because even if he

1141
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: did entertain a UFC deal, you ain't making one million.

1142
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 3: Per no tell you that much.

1143
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 6: Well, even then he could listen, the best way to

1144
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 6: get a UFC contract is to not come up through

1145
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 6: the ranks.

1146
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 5: It's to be acquired.

1147
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 6: Yes, when there was more EMMA organizations like Singoku and

1148
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 6: Dream and everything.

1149
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 3: Else, you would see that the prospects that.

1150
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 6: Got signed over there other contenders anyway, they would have

1151
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 6: huge money because they was someone was competing to acquire

1152
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 6: their services.

1153
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 3: So a million seems a little high.

1154
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 6: But I'm telling you, a guy this good if he

1155
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 6: goes in there and who knows what could be in

1156
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 6: the next three fights.

1157
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 3: If you loses, forget about it.

1158
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 6: But if he wins three more, yeah, they gonna they're

1159
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 6: gonna have to pay for him, no matter who gets him.

1160
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 3: And I don't think a million's crazy at all.

1161
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: A key lesson that we've all heard, but you don't

1162
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: really learn it until you're in that spot negotiating. It's

1163
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: your contract that you sign is is not what you're worth.

1164
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 3: You know what you negotiat.

1165
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 1: Negotiate so you know, if you can package a couple

1166
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: podcast awards into a negotiation period, you're a big time

1167
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: host like we are in uh.

1168
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 3: Big time middle time. Yeah.

1169
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 6: I mean there's people around us eating, but they don't

1170
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 6: care about us down here.

1171
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 2: It's our up there. It's their time down here, it's

1172
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: our time. That's right our time. Uh luke, Uh, this just.

1173
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: Goes down tonight on showtime from San Jose. How did

1174
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: you handicap this in the end?

1175
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 6: Tough one because you got so little of the first one.

1176
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 6: I tend to think that McKee winning is in no

1177
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 6: way accidental. I also think that him doing what he

1178
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 6: did the first time a second time seems almost impossible

1179
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 6: to believe. I think Patricio is gonna push him late,

1180
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 6: but I tend to think that the power and then

1181
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 6: the speed of aj McKee really will make a difference.

1182
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 6: It's gonna be hard for Patricio to have any answer

1183
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 6: for that.

1184
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 3: So I take Patricio's chances very seriously.

1185
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 6: I give him a better chance to win than I

1186
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 6: do for Ugas against Spence, and I already have, you know,

1187
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,720
Speaker 6: a lot of respect for Ugos, but I AJ McKee

1188
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 6: is not here by accident.

1189
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 1: Sometimes when we get into these prediction situations, it's sort

1190
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: of like, Okay, what's the most likely thing to happen

1191
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: and what's the best thing to happen for business? And

1192
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: sometimes those collide, you know what, I think, what is

1193
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: the best for business? For us learning the lessons we're

1194
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: supposed to learn is that AJ McKay wins this rematch,

1195
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: but he has to do it over five rounds, and

1196
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: there's ebbs and flows, there's adjustments, time spent on his back,

1197
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: time spent in a toto to war with Pipple, which

1198
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: you don't really want to do for length. We're gonna

1199
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: find out a lot, I think this time around of

1200
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: what we're supposed to find out. I like the key

1201
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: winning a decision question and I think he has to

1202
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: walk through hell, walk through hell.

1203
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 3: Get that?

1204
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 6: So Pitbull versus McKee two, we're just coming off of

1205
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 6: Volkanowski Korean Zombie. What will be more competitive Vulkanovski Zombie

1206
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 6: or McKee Pitbull too?

1207
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 3: When it's all said and done, Now, how do you

1208
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 3: rate them? I'm talking about the fights. I think this

1209
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 3: rematch with Pipple will be more competitive.

1210
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: But I said that the first time. Luke's so I mean,

1211
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing, Luke, because you know, a J.

1212
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: McKee I think is doing the right thing in the

1213
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: media stops this week and saying, hey Volkanovski, I see

1214
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: you broke, but I'm not impressed.

1215
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 2: That's the way you need to talk.

1216
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 3: Plant seeds, Okay, spray that seed all over the place

1217
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 3: in your face. Boy, you've been smoking that Delta eight.

1218
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 2: You can't Luke.

1219
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: There are some people that thought if we did another show,

1220
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: if Morning Combat ever got back on the air, that

1221
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,240
Speaker 1: you may have murdered half of our production staff.

1222
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 3: Against my mind, I want to address that at all

1223
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 3: before we move forward.

1224
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 6: Well, it's complicated because we have What people don't understand

1225
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 6: is that we have staff. We work for showtime, we

1226
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 6: work for CBS Sports, and so coordinating things can sometimes

1227
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 6: be a little bit difficult. I'm not gonna throw anyone

1228
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 6: under the bus, especially because I've got my own production

1229
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 6: challenges and my own errors.

1230
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 3: But we are aware of all the things that you're

1231
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 3: aware of that went wrong, and they on Monday.

1232
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 2: We hate that shit too.

1233
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 6: Just so you know, trust me, I had a conniption

1234
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 6: fit on Tuesday, which was not anyone here's fault. It

1235
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 6: was a different sort of circumstance. But yes, trust me

1236
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 6: when I tell you we are aware and you know

1237
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 6: we were handling it.

1238
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 5: Nord.

1239
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,439
Speaker 2: I think we should turn Morning Combat into it's.

1240
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 3: Already basically having an intervention with our producers.

1241
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: It's already a sitcom and an award winning show. I

1242
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: think we should go more like reality show like Survivor styles.

1243
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: So what I'll do is next week I'll put out

1244
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: my Michael Power rankings so that people know where they stand.

1245
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: And then every week, then every week one guy gets

1246
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: voted off the island, you know what I mean, one

1247
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: girl or one guy, you know, and then sort of hey, hey, good, hey,

1248
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: you can.

1249
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 3: The audience here you corey? Okay, you know, yes, yes,

1250
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 3: we want to make to make sure that.

1251
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: They By the way, did could Jay Aaron have worn

1252
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: more Dallas cowboy paraphernalia when he walked in?

1253
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 3: Jay Aaron is such a piece of ship.

1254
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 2: He had sucks sure loser?

1255
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 3: All right? The audience can hear me?

1256
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: Okay, what do you got, bro?

1257
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying BC pre show of the weigh and you

1258
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: told me I was pound for pound number one.

1259
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 3: You said that to Raoul Marquez.

1260
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: You know I did say that, and I might, but

1261
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: you said it up all the smoke. I'll back that up, okay,

1262
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: because right now, our j our merch Mavener, he's number two,

1263
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: he's number two.

1264
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 3: All right. I'm gonna lose a lot of friends being

1265
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 3: this blunt and honest.

1266
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: I got to take a number two, all right, Luke

1267
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 1: this comment of cond main event anywhere else. It is

1268
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: the finals of the light Heavyweight World Grand Prix one

1269
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: million dollars at Steak and Vadem Nemcoff continuing this run

1270
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: of coming out of nowhere winning the light heavyweight title,

1271
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: beating everybody once even twice that they put in front

1272
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: of him. But now he's got the hard charge in

1273
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: high rise in Corey O. T. Anderson look great, freaking flay.

1274
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 3: Nobody's talking about it. Let's flying under the radar big time.

1275
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 1: And how about these odds plus one fifty vedem memcough

1276
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: plus one thirty Cory Anderson.

1277
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 6: Oh, they've got Nemkov as the underdog. No, but they're

1278
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 6: both play Is that right? Did Mikey enter to this?

1279
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 3: Wrong? Anybody got if.

1280
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 6: They were both, If they were both in the odds,

1281
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 6: then it would be negative. Yes, two wrongs don't make

1282
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 6: a right in this case, two wrongs don't make all.

1283
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: How about our camera guy, you know Phil? Do you

1284
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: know what they call him behind the scenes here? You

1285
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: know Phil from Vanderbilt.

1286
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 6: They call him Rock Freddy. They Roco Phil Freddy, the

1287
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 6: guy in the.

1288
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: Care of the guy who loves the old woman. They

1289
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: call him filthy phil isn't isn't that just opro po?

1290
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 3: Luke? So wait, they've got Chef's Kiss right film? Yeah?

1291
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 6: They oh no, no, no, So they've got Nemkov minus

1292
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,919
Speaker 6: one sixty, yeah, Cory Anderson plus one thirty.

1293
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 3: So they've got they've got.

1294
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 2: Gods, are bullshit that you get They've.

1295
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 6: Got, They've got They've got Anderson as all right, Luke,

1296
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 6: Anderson's underdog Red Hawsince leaving the UFC on his own terms,

1297
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 6: getting out of that deal.

1298
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: He's beating everybody they put in front him. And dude,

1299
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: he just beat the freaking bags off Ryan Vader. I

1300
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: mean he just crushed him, Luke. Can he do the

1301
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: same to a demo?

1302
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 3: Yes he can, he absolutely can. Corey Anderson.

1303
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 6: Folks, always, whenever a fighter's vulnerabilities have been shown to you,

1304
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 6: people hyper magnify them, right, They say, oh, I've if you,

1305
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 6: especially if you've fought someone who you haven't seen, necessarily

1306
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 6: look as bad. But of course they might have fought

1307
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 6: in a wildly different competition who showed you more of

1308
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 6: one person's vulnerabilities than the other. That doesn't mean that

1309
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 6: that's what's going to happen when they lock up. And

1310
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 6: so you've seen Corey knocked out, You've seen Corey LuSE.

1311
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 6: Nemkov has just only been on a tear. But a

1312
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 6: point I wanted to make here is Corey is still young,

1313
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 6: just on the other side of thirty I think thirty one,

1314
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 6: thirty two at most something like that. And more to

1315
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 6: the point, dude, he has clearly turned a corner inability.

1316
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 6: He has put the thing strike. Yes, he can strike.

1317
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 6: We always knew he can wrestle. You always knew he

1318
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 6: had good cardio. Now he's putting it all together and

1319
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 6: blending it very well. Plus he just has good sense

1320
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 6: about you know, where I need to be, what my

1321
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 6: plan is, what implementation looks like, how I bring that

1322
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,439
Speaker 6: to bear. He's experienced, he's still young, he's not shop worn.

1323
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 6: He's always had a good couple of good foundations. Now

1324
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 6: all of that has built itself up to a much

1325
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,720
Speaker 6: stronger degree, dude, for Deem Nemkov.

1326
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 3: You can see the odds has his hands full tonight.

1327
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,919
Speaker 1: Nemkov can wrestle defensively. We've seen that again, top guys.

1328
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 1: I mean, look, his victory is over Phil Davis, over

1329
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: Ryan Behar. There's no accident, Okay, this guy is absolutely

1330
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: rock solid and legit. I don't know though, if Corny

1331
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: Anderson can have that same success and take down, pick

1332
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: back up, take down, pick back up, and then coming

1333
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: off of the you know, separation on the clinch being

1334
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: that dangerous because Nemcoff doesn't open up a lot, doesn't

1335
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: He doesn't show you you.

1336
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 3: Know, he doesn't. He's never reckless, He's always seemed in control.

1337
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: Yes, if there's anything against him, He's one of the

1338
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: guys that looks solid across the board, but not overly spectacular.

1339
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:07,959
Speaker 1: Maybe the stoppage of Ryan bad or not was staying

1340
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: that was a spectacular finish. If he just if he

1341
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: just beats videem Nemkov, can he win a five round

1342
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: war here? Just be true to yourself, be stingy, be

1343
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: solid with the.

1344
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 3: JEB I'd be safe.

1345
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 6: Well, I sort of think Anderson can win, but I

1346
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,720
Speaker 6: would say like one of the differences between what Anderson

1347
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 6: might do when what Nemkov might do. Nemkov to be

1348
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 6: a little bit He's got good boxing, but a little

1349
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 6: bit more of a kickboxer. I expect him to go

1350
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 6: a little more high low and test the defense transfer

1351
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 6: of a guy like Cory Anderson. But I'm gonna say

1352
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 6: this too, do Corey is going to try and put

1353
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 6: a pace on him. He's going to try and push

1354
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 6: him back.

1355
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 5: The war will be.

1356
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 3: Who leads the dance here.

1357
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 6: As far as I can tell, can Vadeem Nemkov put

1358
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 6: punches together and put strikes together, and an attack together

1359
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 6: that keeps Anderson off of him. That's really the key

1360
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 6: component here, I think for Namkov, And of course I

1361
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 6: do think he has the ability to do that, as

1362
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 6: we've seen, but he's gonna have to implement it against

1363
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 6: the guy who's got good footwork, who is a mobile target.

1364
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 6: Lots of things, makes them hard to hit, hard to

1365
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 6: hurt in certain cases. I know you've seen them knocked out,

1366
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 6: but I'm saying this rejuvenated version is just a little

1367
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 6: bit more dialed in. So if this is for Nemkov,

1368
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 6: the test is what does he do to get Anderson

1369
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 6: off of him? Could be wrestling, could be punches, could

1370
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 6: be kicks. That's going to be absolutely crucial to Victor Roy.

1371
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: Anderson's striking has improved in certain surges, but if he's

1372
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: going to try to strike for strike against Vinean nem.

1373
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:30,919
Speaker 5: That's a mistake idea.

1374
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 6: It's a who would just say harder, harder striker of

1375
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 6: the two. I'm definitely gonna say Vedemimkov.

1376
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, But I think Anderson when he times it straight,

1377
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: when he's able to use the threat of the takedown fake,

1378
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: you know, faint, the changing of levels, and then he

1379
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: can sneak in some stuff on there way.

1380
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 6: And I'm talking about keeping Corey off of him. Another

1381
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 6: thing to keep Corey off of him is Corey is

1382
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 6: going to be wrestling him. How long does it take

1383
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 6: for Vadeem Nemkov to stop the takedown and then create separation?

1384
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 3: Because if you see vadem.

1385
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 6: Nimkov constantly getting pressed into the defense or bouncing on

1386
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 6: one leg or whatever, and then then then Anderson is

1387
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 6: putting offense behind.

1388
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 3: That, that's gonna be a tough fight. It's gonna be

1389
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 3: a tough fight. We put in a formal request to

1390
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 3: get Jerry Jones on room service diaries. What will the

1391
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 3: response be? There won't be one. They won't fulfill it.

1392
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 2: Okay, like many of the schedule our podcast the rest

1393
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 2: of the weekend.

1394
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 6: Hey, we wanted a war, we should get a press release.

1395
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 6: They said that, go fuck yourself, like the lead ship.

1396
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 3: Uh luke. I like Nemkough.

1397
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna go the distance, though, and I

1398
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a great fight because I think

1399
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: Cory Anderson might gas himself out a little bit.

1400
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 6: I don't know Corey's gastick is great, but I do

1401
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 6: agree with that it's probably gonna go the distance. And

1402
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 6: this is gonna be one of those ones where it's like,

1403
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 6: you know, three rounds to two. The scoring could get

1404
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 6: real interesting here. Pay attention to the scoring as well.

1405
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 6: The one thing I would say is biggest weakness on

1406
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 6: either side. I don't think Corey Anderson has a bad chin,

1407
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 6: but I don't think his chin is the same as

1408
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 6: Vedia sent him to hell in his last UFC fight. Blokovic.

1409
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Wellovich, But he also ducked into it. He

1410
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 6: went this way into it.

1411
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: And so as a consequence of you know, hey, one,

1412
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: the light heavyweight title, the tournament chat for the winner here,

1413
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 1: and maybe the claim of the best tool fiver on

1414
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: this planet right now. But the King of Connecticut has

1415
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: something to say about that, Connecticut.

1416
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 3: Yes, yes he does. That's not you, that's that's Glover

1417
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 3: to Shera.

1418
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:13,919
Speaker 2: Nobody talking about Aaron Pico's return.

1419
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 3: Are we taking on his opponent fell out and so

1420
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 3: this is the last minute.

1421
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Adlee Edwards, who making his belt or debut

1422
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: nine in one overall has won seven in a row,

1423
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: mop up for Pico, hopefully for him, and because I look,

1424
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: he's closing in on a freaking title shot.

1425
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. It's like Pico needed

1426
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 6: a reset and he got one. He got one of Belaitory.

1427
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 6: They did it the right way. But now it's time

1428
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 6: to turn the corner. Now, this is not his fault.

1429
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 3: He was supposed to have. It was the original I.

1430
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 6: Forget now, so I'm putting putting put on the spot.

1431
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 6: But I remember being a little bit more competitive in

1432
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 6: any case. Still, for Pico, you got to take this

1433
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 6: opportunity seriously. It's another chance, another camp, another chance to

1434
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 6: work your game, another opportunity to implement all the things

1435
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 6: you've been working on so that when that elite opponent

1436
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 6: circles back in, you're ready to go.

1437
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: So no mistakes, imagine and Pico against the winner of

1438
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: Patricia and McKee.

1439
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 3: Candidly, I don't know if Pico's ready for either of

1440
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 3: those guys to.

1441
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: Be I mean, honestly, if it's McKee, it may be

1442
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: a while because McKee wants petreacky.

1443
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 3: So maybe if you give Pico a couple more, you know,

1444
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 3: I don't know. Partners are the training partners. So they

1445
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 3: used to be at the body shop, Ga Gaff slit

1446
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:17,959
Speaker 3: in there.

1447
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: Gaps like fuck your top pounderful poul list on Malca.

1448
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:20,919
Speaker 1: That's what he just said.

1449
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 3: They used to train together at the body shop. They

1450
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 3: no longer do, all right, Gaff, By the way, where's he?

1451
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 3: Where's he? Multi power non bro?

1452
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: He's coming his THHD tolerance. Fantastic, fantastic, h luke. Timothy

1453
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: Johnson gonna take on Litton vessel in a heavyweight slobbery knocker.

1454
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 2: But how about Johnson showing up to the scale with that.

1455
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 3: Lipp You see that?

1456
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 5: No?

1457
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 3: I didn't it.

1458
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 2: No, I thought we were exchanging tuxt You didn't see that.

1459
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 3: I didn't see the dip in his Oh Kim john Yeah,

1460
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 3: you have the total dip pack. He was like a

1461
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 3: little Kodiak.

1462
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 2: Well I come from.

1463
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 1: That's that's how you know. We talked about drug rugs.

1464
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: Those are the heroes in my hometown. You packing a lip, bro, I.

1465
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 6: Told the story, and no one believes me, but it's

1466
00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 6: one hundred percent true. When I was at boot camp,

1467
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 6: my drawll instructors would.

1468
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 3: Just swallow it. They would like not not not not

1469
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 3: the wad itself, but the juice. They would just swallow it.

1470
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 2: You will be okay.

1471
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: Maybe you can train your body somehow to get used

1472
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: to that. First ten times you will.

1473
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 3: Be throwing up. Yeah, you can't. It takes a long time,

1474
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 3: but you can do it. You can do it.

1475
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: On the undercard, your boy dove let Sonyamur, former champion,

1476
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: Hafayel Carvallo, who is uh, who's.

1477
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 3: Been losing from middleweight? Who's it going to be? But

1478
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,919
Speaker 3: also yak Moordov's smaller. So yes, that makes sense.

1479
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 2: Let's go on to the UFC Fight Night. It goes

1480
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 2: down this week.

1481
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 3: I believe it's the Apex. Correct, it's a Vegas show.

1482
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 3: I believe that's correct.

1483
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: And look, this is a it's a weak card, but

1484
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: there's a hell of a very good main event, a

1485
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: rematch of what went down at UFC two oh five.

1486
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 5: Was it?

1487
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 3: It was in Mason Square Garden. Wow.

1488
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: I remember interviewing the winner backstage after the knockout, when

1489
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: Vicente Luke sent Bellah Mohammed to the to the deep

1490
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: dark realm. I think it was a first round finish.

1491
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,959
Speaker 1: It was definitely a t Ko Luke. All these years later,

1492
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: these two were back in prime, prime title positioning.

1493
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 2: Uh are we sleeping on this fight?

1494
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 3: Yes? What should we be looking for heading into this one?

1495
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 6: I mean, as much as things have changed since their

1496
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 6: first fight, things stay the same. You would imagine that

1497
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 6: Balal Mohammad has worked on his striking, his striking defense,

1498
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 6: in particular his range management. All of those things I

1499
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 6: think are probably a lot better. But again it's like,

1500
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 6: is he going to beat Vicente Luke in a straight

1501
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 6: up striking match.

1502
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 3: That's hard to imagine.

1503
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:32,439
Speaker 6: Conversely, Vicente Luke has much improved, I think over time

1504
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 6: takedown defense. Certainly, those dars chokes if you're not careful,

1505
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 6: are gonna set you on fire. But again I'm gonna ask,

1506
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 6: do you think he can beat bal Mohammed and trying

1507
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 6: to wrestle his way to victory? Probably not so. For

1508
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 6: as much as things have changed, we get back to

1509
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 6: the same kind of question. Is bal mohammedd gonna be

1510
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 6: able to wrestle his way to a victory or is Vicente,

1511
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 6: Luke gonna be able to stick and move, stop the

1512
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 6: takedown or whatever else goes inside of that. Really, that's

1513
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 6: gonna define this fight as much as it defined the

1514
01:00:57,960 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 6: first one.

1515
01:00:58,360 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: Here's how I look at both of these guys, both

1516
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: sleeper title contenders that are on impressive wind streaks each.

1517
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 3: They both highly improved guys. They've both earned it to

1518
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 3: get to this point.

1519
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 2: But when if there's a fault for both guys, as

1520
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 2: I've always.

1521
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: Said, they're they're a little too interested in coming forward,

1522
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: They're a little too willing, they're.

1523
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 2: Letting their hands go.

1524
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: You put them back in together in this I mean, look, look,

1525
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: is the winner gonna get a title shot.

1526
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 3: No, it's a little crowded a top of the division,

1527
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 3: but a winner's gonna.

1528
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 2: Be right there. But this would I don't see either

1529
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 2: state playing safe.

1530
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 3: Is really what I'm trying. No chance, no chance.

1531
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 6: And again, and also I think Luk prides himself in

1532
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 6: his cardio, and you know bal Mohammad prides himself in

1533
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 6: his cardio. So either way this is gonna be They're

1534
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 6: gonna put the dude. That's the other part too. While

1535
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 6: Walt Mohammada, if if his wrestling is working here. He's

1536
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 6: gonna start putting a pace on Luke and slowing him down,

1537
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 6: getting those arms kind of heavy, and then it becomes

1538
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 6: a much different kind of fight. So really the let's

1539
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 6: see what kind of work Ballah Mohammed could do. And

1540
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 6: again I want to point this out, he doesn't. Yes,

1541
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 6: the takedowns would be great. It's not so much the takedown.

1542
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 6: How much work is he forcing Luke to do? And

1543
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 6: what kind of effect does all that work have.

1544
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: If it turns into a slober knocker whose combination of

1545
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: chin and finishing power at this point, not back in

1546
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, At this point do you favor if it gets.

1547
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 6: There, Luka has taken more damage, so I'll say that,

1548
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 6: but I would still favor Luke in a slugfest.

1549
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna favorite Luka.

1550
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 6: It would just listen, if you're advising Blohmahammad, with all

1551
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 6: the skills that he has, would you advise doing that?

1552
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 6: That seems like deeply inadvisable. That's exactly what you don't

1553
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 6: want to do. So you know, you start getting reckless

1554
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 6: at range with Luka, you're gonna wake up looking at

1555
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 6: the lights. But Blah Mohammed, while aggressive typically doesn't do that.

1556
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: Look, there's a lot of names a casual fan would

1557
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: not recognize looking up and down.

1558
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 3: This fight not a great card. Boy?

1559
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 2: Are they trying to just stick square pegs in round holes?

1560
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 3: Luke?

1561
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 6: It looks a lot like your college personal life. I

1562
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 6: would say I'm glad you're back, but that'd be lying.

1563
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 2: I mean, it was a decent setup in delivery.

1564
01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: Is there anything that jumps out? I mean, Miguel baas

1565
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: Andre Fialo hop do that. How about Dakar Close, ye,

1566
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: who's coming back after two years. He'll be a minus

1567
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: six thirty favorite against Brandon Jenkins.

1568
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 2: But did you see the freaking quotes?

1569
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 3: Yes? Can you sum up what he's been talking about?

1570
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 6: So remember he was supposed to fight Da Kark. Close

1571
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 6: was supposed to fight Jeremy Stevens. They go to the

1572
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 6: way and he gets pushed. Candidly, it does not look

1573
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 6: like the push does a whole lot, but it did.

1574
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 6: It fucked Jakar Close up big time and messed up

1575
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 6: his neck. He was getting brutal headaches, he was reducing

1576
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 6: his mobility, It was getting all kinds of backspots.

1577
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 2: And they wanted to do surgery and He's like, fuck that.

1578
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, they wanted to do surgery and it just it

1579
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 6: was just it was not an easy road for him

1580
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 6: to come back from that, and so you have to question, like,

1581
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 6: what kind of condition is he in? I mean, if

1582
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 6: he got cleared, okay, it's some kind of condition, but

1583
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 6: you know, long term, what is he built for? And

1584
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 6: remember Dakar Close had a game that was built on

1585
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,959
Speaker 6: forward pressure coming at it, So you know you're gonna

1586
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 6: take punishment in this fight if in all likelihood, I

1587
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 6: worry about his future a little bit. I'm sad to

1588
01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 6: hear what has happened, and I do worry about his future.

1589
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 1: You basically say that he's not functioning well from the

1590
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 1: lingering injuries and who's your jury? Because he wants to

1591
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: go out on his own terms, and then he ripped

1592
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 1: up the UFC for not taking care of him medically afterwards,

1593
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 1: and how little they pray. I don't know if this

1594
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: is an advisable position. I want the guy to make money,

1595
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: but like, this is tough.

1596
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 6: This is a hard mental space to be in if

1597
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 6: you want to be a professional prize fighter or a

1598
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 6: professional promoter or a professional promoter.

1599
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, how about that, big boy Chris Barnett, the heavyweight

1600
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: that had that spinning kick knockout.

1601
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 3: Remember that, dude.

1602
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 1: Yes, he's a plus one ninety five underdog against Martine Boudet.

1603
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 3: Am I pronouncing that right? I couldn't tell you.

1604
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 1: All right, tune in Saturday if you're interested in all

1605
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: that shit. Luke, real quick before we continue around out

1606
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: our show. Here is your dad an American football fan. No, okay,

1607
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 1: because he's just texted you, and I was wondering if

1608
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 1: maybe he saw you interview Michael Parson and he's like, son,

1609
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you.

1610
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 5: You made it.

1611
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 2: Do you think he's like, hey, Luke, can you check

1612
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 2: out that property I have in Arlen?

1613
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 3: No, but his brother lives here. My uncle lives here,

1614
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 3: wants me to hit him up. Okay, that's good. That's family. Yeah,

1615
01:04:59,400 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 3: I'd put him on.

1616
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 2: What's uncle's name?

1617
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 3: Larry?

1618
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 6: Oh, uncle Larry lesersu Larry Right, Larry went to Harvard

1619
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 6: if you can believe that.

1620
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 3: So you had two uncles who went to Oklahoma one

1621
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 3: played football. That's right.

1622
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 1: Topic four, Luke this week is he's back the triple

1623
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 1: hoping to be quadruple cringe. Henry Sahudo has announced that

1624
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 1: no more teasing, he's back in the usavapool. We know

1625
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 1: he wants to move up to try to attempt to

1626
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 1: win a third championship in the UFC against Alexander Bolkanowski

1627
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: also talking about taking on al Jamaine Sterling. If that

1628
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 1: opens up luke your reaction, It seemed inevitable for a

1629
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 1: guy who retired on his own terms that then never

1630
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 1: really went away. He's been doing a great job as

1631
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 1: a sort of trainer for hire. Him and the captain

1632
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 1: Eric Alberas. Scene turned around the fortunes of a bunch

1633
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 1: of big name fighters. But this seems like the right move,

1634
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 1: best for business, best for fans, best for making big fights.

1635
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 1: Do they make him fight a non title fight upon

1636
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 1: comeback or is this going to be a name we

1637
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:55,479
Speaker 1: can plug right in when the first opening.

1638
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 3: YEP.

1639
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 6: I don't know what they're gonna do, because based on

1640
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 6: everything he said, it doesn't make sense that he's back.

1641
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 6: I mean, it makes sense if you ignore what he

1642
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 6: said and just look at what people do. And of

1643
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 6: course fighter retirements never last, so in that sense it's

1644
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 6: quite normal. But I don't know what they're gonna do,

1645
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 6: because he was saying like he was telling Davis Sigura

1646
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 6: when he interviewed him at Eagle FC, like fifty four

1647
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 6: or whatever it was, that you know, listen and it's

1648
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 6: kind of over. Danna doesn't want to pay me the money,

1649
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 6: blah blah blah, and so you're like, oh, he wants

1650
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 6: to come back for the money fights. But it's like,

1651
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 6: are they really gonna give him a Volkanowski fight? That

1652
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 6: seems unlikely at least for now, very unlikely. Okay, the

1653
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 6: Sterling fight is super interesting to me now that one.

1654
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 6: I would love any fight at Bansomwaight against TJ, against

1655
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 6: sand Haagen, obviously a rematch against t J.

1656
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 3: Wou would this tike?

1657
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 2: Any old guy fights would get you fired up.

1658
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 3: I mean, he already fought cruz Aldo the Aldo fight.

1659
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 3: I'd yeah.

1660
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 6: So like at one thirty five, I'm very happy to

1661
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 6: see him back one. You know, it would be a

1662
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 6: big fight, especially if you want to be huge. But

1663
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 6: it just seems really unlikely, and.

1664
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 2: You don't want anything to do with some kind of

1665
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 2: Connor Catchway fight.

1666
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 3: You don't like that shit. Eh, Just let's see what

1667
01:06:58,200 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 3: he does against dude.

1668
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 6: Bansomwaight has never been hotter, so Sohudo wants to come

1669
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 6: back and make it even hotter.

1670
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 3: Great, let's see what he can do there.

1671
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: Topic five, Luke, let's hit up some quick hitters to

1672
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: close out people think that's just mailing.

1673
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:10,919
Speaker 3: It in, right, it's a little bit mabey're a couple

1674
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 3: of news together.

1675
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 2: Here's where we got to start.

1676
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 1: Nick Diaz gonna make his UFC return again in twenty

1677
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 1: twenty two, following that ill advised dish come back against

1678
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 1: Robby Lawler in their long rematch Long term setup rematch,

1679
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 1: Caesar Gracie put up on Instagram of Nick saying, quote,

1680
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 1: look for Nick Diaz to fight by the.

1681
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 3: End of the year.

1682
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 2: Luke, is it advisable?

1683
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 1: I mean, look, if you can come in better shape

1684
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 1: and actually do it for the right reasons. Unlike the

1685
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 1: last time when he was basically telling people in interviews,

1686
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 1: you all made me do this talking to his management,

1687
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 1: I don't want it unless it's an old guy, sloppy

1688
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 1: celebrity fight. But again, we just saw that. Do you

1689
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 1: have any guesses? I mean, do you put him in

1690
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: there against a cowboy?

1691
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 3: What the hell you do here? Cowboy? Maybe a Jim Miller, Yeah,

1692
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 3: something like that. I don't really know what you do.

1693
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 1: What if they did a card in stocked in California

1694
01:07:58,080 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: that had the diaz is in the Cohen MA.

1695
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 2: They don't do good ship like that.

1696
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 3: They don't do stuff like that.

1697
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 6: Right, A Stockton homecoming two nine in that bitch would

1698
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 6: be kind of cool.

1699
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:08,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'd have to go there for that, We would

1700
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 3: have to go there.

1701
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 6: I'll just say I you know, listen, we talked to

1702
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,479
Speaker 6: some folks close to nick uh and they were telling

1703
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 6: us that he just wasn't as prepared as he needed

1704
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 6: to be by virtue of things apparently being forced.

1705
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 5: On him by gud.

1706
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 3: Let's let's see.

1707
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 6: I don't know, I don't know about gunpoint, but let's

1708
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 6: just see what happens the next time out.

1709
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 3: By bong point.

1710
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: Probably at boon point, which you've made a lot, a

1711
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 1: lot of important decisions in your life have come at

1712
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 1: bong point. Uh luke uh Shoff cut rock manof firing

1713
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 1: back at Hamstock Shambaia on the ig. So Hamzat wrote,

1714
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 1: who is that chump? Rockmanoff responded, let him say it

1715
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: to my face in the commons. We'll talk when we

1716
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: see each other. I've got nothing against him. We're just

1717
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 1: opponents and I'm not gonna insult him. I'm not gonna

1718
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 1: insult his family or his nation. We'll fight one day

1719
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 1: and then see who's better.

1720
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 3: End quote. There you go. I'm here for this ship.

1721
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 6: Yes, oh shot cut rock Monoff taken on Neil Magne

1722
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 6: in June. Huge test for him. And I got to

1723
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 6: tell you, folks, if you weren't aware of who shot

1724
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 6: gott Rockmanov is before, you're about to find out.

1725
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:08,680
Speaker 3: Yes he is.

1726
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 5: He is.

1727
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 6: He and Hamza I don't know when they're gonna fight,

1728
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 6: but they have a date with destiny and I cannot wait.

1729
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 6: So do these Speaking of which, by the way, if

1730
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 6: it's on Quick hitters, yeah. New York Times story today

1731
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 6: written by Kevin Draper and Kareem Zadan exploring the connection

1732
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 6: between Ramzan Kadirov, the totally insane Russian war or Chuchen

1733
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 6: warlord in parts of Russia with chuch Niya and uh

1734
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 6: and the connection he has with Hamza Himaya quite troubling

1735
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 6: to put.

1736
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 2: How do we get into that right now? Mike, you

1737
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 2: didn't put it in the rundown? I thought he did.

1738
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 3: Uh Luke.

1739
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 1: Big news in boxing this week and here's why it

1740
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 1: Weirdly relates to what you're saying does relate is that

1741
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 1: Daniel Kinahan, the AC suspected Irish base but out of

1742
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 1: Dubai now drug cartel lord who had been depending upon

1743
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:56,639
Speaker 1: who you asked, deeply involved as an early investor in MTK,

1744
01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 1: the boxing Management team which represents the likes of Tyson Billy,

1745
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: Joe Saunders, Carl Frampton, Mick Conlin, a couple other big

1746
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 1: names also here untill and now the connection with of

1747
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 1: course the new promoter Probellum, which Richard Schaefer has.

1748
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 3: Been walking around here for it. I did see him, yeh.

1749
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 2: There's been talks that that's also fueled by Canahan. So

1750
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 2: why does this matter.

1751
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 1: It's not that this has not been in the news,

1752
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:21,600
Speaker 1: that there's a suspected drug lord close in unboxing. The

1753
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 1: fact that we and a lot I think American media

1754
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 1: never really went nuts on it is dumb, but true, dude.

1755
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:31,640
Speaker 1: There's a lot of fucked up things that go on

1756
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 1: in boxing, in.

1757
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 2: And convicted or unconvicted people in key spots, and it's

1758
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:37,799
Speaker 2: just sort of that's the game that it attracts.

1759
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 1: You want to go into MMA. Ramzov could drive and

1760
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: see the connections. The Cadeer ob see the connections there. Well,

1761
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 1: this took front page precedence when the US government now

1762
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 1: banning trade sanctions with basically based US government stepping in

1763
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: and saying, if you do any business in boxing with

1764
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 1: this suspected figure, you will be under penalty and arrest.

1765
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 1: So now, Luke, the reaction is, we've got a US citizen. Yes,

1766
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,600
Speaker 1: We've got everybody either lying or trying to cover up.

1767
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 1: We've got MTK saying, oh, no, Kinahan was no longer

1768
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 1: with us from twenty seventeen on, even though Tyson Fury

1769
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 1: in the when they booked that Anthony Kashua fight public

1770
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 1: thank you publicly and all.

1771
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 3: Pictures partying with him.

1772
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 1: And now we've got Probellum saying, oh, we've never had

1773
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 1: any connection with Kinahan, even though Kinahan used to promote

1774
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 1: MMA cards under the Probellum name.

1775
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 3: So like it's all kind of.

1776
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 6: Like And also, wasn't there an ESPN card that was

1777
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 6: supposed to be aired that they're now not going to air?

1778
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 2: Yes, so there's a lot of shit that's hitting the

1779
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 2: fan here.

1780
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 3: Luke.

1781
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 1: The reaction based on what we just said about MMA

1782
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 1: and boxing is again, I mean don king again, Like

1783
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 1: it's it's not new in boxing, but given the circumstances,

1784
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 1: should this sanction be in place? Yes, it seems right

1785
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 1: that you wouldn't want to do business somebody like that.

1786
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 1: I'm glad people like Alan Dawson, the of Insider, who's

1787
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 1: done a great job covering this for a long time,

1788
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 1: never been afraid to put it out there.

1789
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 2: All that work is being paid off. But the thing

1790
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 2: about throwing.

1791
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 1: Houses that glass glass housettle stone houses. Let's get stoned

1792
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 1: in someone's glass house, Luke is how many MMA fighters

1793
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 1: are kind of linked to this type of thing totally?

1794
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 5: What do we do?

1795
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 6: I don't know, because it's so funny that like ESPN

1796
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 6: will cover you know, oh a a pro basketball player

1797
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 6: said something insensitive to a female reporter, which is fine,

1798
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 6: Like you shouldn't that's the thing that you should cover.

1799
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 3: I don't have any issue with it.

1800
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 6: And then they just like totally ignore that they have

1801
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 6: one arm of their boxing business involved with MT plus

1802
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 6: regularly does MTK.

1803
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 5: Cards ll Like there's no discussion of that.

1804
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:31,600
Speaker 6: There's this like there's like this rule of morality and

1805
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:36,679
Speaker 6: media police around sticking ball sports that never gets applied

1806
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 6: to the fight game. And I somewhat understand it too,

1807
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 6: because the other part of the story is BC like

1808
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 6: I've been raising not issues related to Kenahan per Se

1809
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 6: or Kadirov. I've I've interviewed folks about Kadirov as well.

1810
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 6: But like the point I'm trying to make is I

1811
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,879
Speaker 6: brought this stuff to light in previous interviews or of coverage,

1812
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 6: and most combat sports fans just don't care.

1813
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,120
Speaker 1: They either already think there's stuff like that, go no, no,

1814
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 1: or like you're saying, they just don't care.

1815
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 2: They want to see the fight, so like.

1816
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 6: But it's like, dude, you really want people you're in

1817
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 6: business with to be in business with fucking murderous warlord

1818
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 6: quite literally murderous warlords.

1819
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 3: No, it's probably a bad idea top.

1820
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 1: Rank Bob Baron, which done business with MTK constantly. Bob

1821
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 1: Buran was quoted about a year ago when asked about

1822
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 1: stuff like this and saying, look, you know all this

1823
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 1: is accused, I don't you know, canhand's fine?

1824
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 2: You know people say things whatever.

1825
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: Well, now they interviewed Barbaron and Mark Ramundy did a

1826
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 1: ESPN and Bob's like, yes, we have to cut off

1827
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 1: ties as well, which is.

1828
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 2: A smart move.

1829
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 3: But I don't know what more we're supposed to do

1830
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:32,600
Speaker 3: than that.

1831
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 6: I mean, right, I think you just tell the audience

1832
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 6: what the truth is. And now here's what I don't like.

1833
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 1: Tyson Fury did a teleconference ahead of the April twenty

1834
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: third million White Fight, which is gonna be a monster fight.

1835
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna break it down next week obviously, but I

1836
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 1: saw Kevin and I only tweet out that, you know,

1837
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 1: he's been trying to get in the queue to ask

1838
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 1: a question about it. Nobody asked the questions stories afterwards

1839
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 1: from Gareth A. Davis basically saying that, like the Tyson

1840
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 1: Fury's team has shut down any questions. That's the bullshit

1841
01:13:58,080 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: I hate. Yeah, when it's straight up you cannot ask

1842
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 1: this question. I'm sorry, Tyson, you agreed to work with

1843
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 1: this guy. Okay, you're the one. It's public record, it's

1844
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 1: fair game.

1845
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 2: So you should have to face that music in the regard.

1846
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:09,560
Speaker 1: I think that's where you point the finger at, not

1847
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 1: necessarily the American media, unless the American media has turned

1848
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 1: a blind eye completely, which you know we haven't.

1849
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:18,440
Speaker 6: Well, they have to to h Hamzat and his relationship

1850
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 6: to Kadirov until this New York Times until this New

1851
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 6: York Times article.

1852
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 3: So it'll be interesting to see what kind of coverage happens. Yeah,

1853
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 3: we'll see if that extends into MMA.

1854
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 1: Keeping it going here, Luke talk about a big ass

1855
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 1: fight YOUFC two seventy five, which comes up in Singapore.

1856
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 3: I forgot the date.

1857
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 2: It was a June something in Singapore.

1858
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got two title fights.

1859
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 2: We got uh, we got Prahatska taking on Valery.

1860
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 3: And you got Valentina.

1861
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 1: Well, now you got the rematch of the greatest women's

1862
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 1: fight of all time in MMA, and among I think

1863
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 1: among the top five fights in MM history, and that's

1864
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 1: Jung Way Lee Yo Wanna Young j Check.

1865
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:49,639
Speaker 2: No title this time, but you want a champion finally

1866
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:50,559
Speaker 2: coming back, Luke.

1867
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 3: She had held for three rounds or five rounds. I

1868
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 3: believe that didn't.

1869
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 1: One of the reporters ask Dana at the press conference,

1870
01:14:58,280 --> 01:14:59,560
Speaker 1: can you make this five? And Dana's like, do you

1871
01:14:59,600 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 1: want me to?

1872
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 3: And it wasn't.

1873
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 1: Wasn't it like Sean l shot, Yeah, Mike Bone to

1874
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:05,640
Speaker 1: do that. And then Dana's like, all right, if you

1875
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 1: really want me to, I will. Part of me says,

1876
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 1: do we really need to do a five rounds when

1877
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 1: they almost killed each other the first time. But here's

1878
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 1: the thing, luke H, no title, let stick. I love

1879
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 1: that you Wanta stood firm. She said, I want to

1880
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 1: come back and fight either a champion or rematch Whaley.

1881
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 1: I'm not coming back for less money against a contender.

1882
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 1: I'm not at that point in my career.

1883
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 5: She's not.

1884
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 3: No, she's not. She's a single fighter.

1885
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 1: And look she I don't know what she got paid

1886
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 1: in that first Wayley fight, but it wasn't enough at

1887
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 1: the end of the day, or what or what.

1888
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 3: She took on. This is a loaded card suddenly from Singapore.

1889
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 6: Dear, that's a great again, that's the best women's fight

1890
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 6: in UFC history by a country mile.

1891
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1892
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 3: I scored it for Johanna. I thought she won it,

1893
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:41,799
Speaker 3: but it was close as ship.

1894
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 1: Part of me from watching that fight live, and I've

1895
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:45,560
Speaker 1: talked about like it was uncomfortable.

1896
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 3: I got it, got Harry, you know what I mean.

1897
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 6: One as yo Wanna's face started getting formed, you got worried, and.

1898
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 1: They both they just they both would not take a

1899
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 1: backward step and that's what made the fight great.

1900
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 2: But I always said, look, if they do that again.

1901
01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 1: I just can't see a great once great champion like

1902
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 1: you Wanna not having poured it all out in that

1903
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 1: fight whatever was left in her. And everybody's got one

1904
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 1: last stand. There's levels to it, but everybody's got one.

1905
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 1: Leverty of great fighters got one last stand. I think

1906
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:11,799
Speaker 1: that was her last stand. But it's not like Whaley's

1907
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 1: coming in as as as not. You know, Wayley's coming

1908
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 1: in as weathered goods right now as well with the

1909
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:19,440
Speaker 1: two losses, no doubt about it. She made great adjustments

1910
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 1: in the second fight against Amy Unis. She's still got

1911
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 1: head kicked first round KO the first time. So it

1912
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 1: does make it interesting in terms of what this fight

1913
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 1: looks like. I think you have to favor Waylea based

1914
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 1: on youth and damage.

1915
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe I think there's the biggest question is what

1916
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 3: is left of Joanna? What is left?

1917
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 6: How much did that fight and the inactivity subsequently take

1918
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 6: out of her competition?

1919
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 3: Like would she be willing to go to hell again?

1920
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 3: Would she be? And can she can she have with

1921
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 3: that much damage you've accrued over time? So asking a lot. Look,

1922
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 3: here's an interesting fight that I don't care about it

1923
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 3: at all.

1924
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 1: Trailler's back and we know that Triller acquired what Tiller is.

1925
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 1: Triller's got a lot of shit going on. They're trying

1926
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 1: to do real boxing, They're trying to do vaping, they're

1927
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 1: trying to do Triller Verse. July sixteenth, they're gonna do

1928
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:05,719
Speaker 1: a pay per view from a bull fighting ring in Mexico.

1929
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 1: Andy Ruiz Junior, the guy, Remember he won subset Anthony

1930
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 1: Joshua for the damn heavyweight titles. What is he doing

1931
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 1: against unbeaten Tyrone Swong, the former kickboxing champion who was

1932
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 1: gonna be a fight. He was gonna Fightsander Usik, but

1933
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:22,599
Speaker 1: then he drugged out. Yeah, look, this fight blows really fun.

1934
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 6: I mean it's like, I like Tyrone Spong, so it's like,

1935
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:26,680
Speaker 6: you know, nice for him, But dude, I just don't

1936
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 6: understand what the fuck is didn't Rui is Ruiz still?

1937
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 3: I don't even keep straight. Is Ruiz still with Eddie Renoso? Yes? Right?

1938
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 5: Is he?

1939
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, still with the PVC technically, But I'm

1940
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 1: not I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna shoot on Ruiz

1941
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 1: if this is a big petty which it probably is.

1942
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, Triller's probably still overpaying, which I get why the

1943
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 6: guys would nobody cares. Dude, Dude, you're fighting a guy

1944
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 6: who in Tyrone Spong, who's you know, obviously is very

1945
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 6: elite kickboxer, but we don't know what kind of boxer

1946
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:52,560
Speaker 6: he is.

1947
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 3: Probably not that great.

1948
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 2: But like, why wouldn't Ruiz want to fight Luis?

1949
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 6: I'm saying what I'm saying. It's not even on Tyron's

1950
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:01,719
Speaker 6: won again. He probably got a big check. He wants

1951
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 6: to make a moving boxing good for Tyrant's blong. That's great,

1952
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 6: and for any Ruiz if you got a big check too,

1953
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 6: that's great. But it's like, dude, what is the appeal

1954
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 6: to the average fan?

1955
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm with you on that, Luke. Fuck that.

1956
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 1: Marlon Moriis announces his retired from in a smart move.

1957
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 1: Very we talk about to Sean Porter in this year

1958
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 1: the way on top.

1959
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:20,680
Speaker 3: I know what it's like, dude, It's like, where was

1960
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 3: he supposed to go?

1961
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 6: I feel bad for Marl and it was a rough

1962
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 6: end there, but it a nice guy to a good inner,

1963
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 6: very nice guy, family guy.

1964
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 3: But that was a rough ending. I'm glad to see

1965
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 3: he put a stop to it.

1966
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,560
Speaker 1: July sixteenth, UFC Fight Night, Luke Askar Askarov trying to

1967
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 1: rebound against Alex Perez.

1968
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, bro, Yeah, sick fight Alex Perez, come forward,

1969
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 6: guy can do everything.

1970
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 3: Askarov and him, They're gonna have some scrambles. That's what

1971
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 3: I'm talking about, uh luke.

1972
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 1: Finally, Ariel Hawani revealed US an update on the rumors

1973
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 1: surrounding The best featherweight fighter in the world today is

1974
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 1: a beat, not a aj McKee, not Volkanovski, su beat

1975
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 1: Malcolmed Cheripov.

1976
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's the best, but he's good.

1977
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 2: Here's the quote from Ario of the Mma Our Fame.

1978
01:18:58,240 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 2: I've asked around.

1979
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if Zubi is coming back from what

1980
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 1: I'm told, he had like almost like this moral religious

1981
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 1: dilemma that he was dealing with. He's very religious, and

1982
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 1: I think he reached a point where he just didn't

1983
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 1: want to do it anymore. His brother fights and he

1984
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:13,600
Speaker 1: corners his brother, which I think is really interesting. But

1985
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 1: obviously everybody's different, but that's what I heard. He just

1986
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 1: reached a point where he was like, no, this isn't

1987
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 1: for me. He might go down as one of the

1988
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,600
Speaker 1: biggest what ifs in UFC history because it looked like

1989
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 1: his ceiling was so high the great end quote. Dana

1990
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 1: was asked that the most recent press confty, he said, like,

1991
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 1: I haven't talked to him at all.

1992
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 6: We had Danny Sigura play the before Monday show fell

1993
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 6: completely apart and I was out of.

1994
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 2: Thanks to Danny for filling in, and I was out

1995
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 2: of focus the entire time.

1996
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 6: Danny played some of the clips talking to eliab Dela Ziz,

1997
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:41,680
Speaker 6: who's manager, as well as Dana, and both were like,

1998
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 6: you know, they don't have shit to say, which is

1999
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 6: not a red flag per se, but it's not an

2000
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:48,560
Speaker 6: encouraging sign if you were looking for his return. I

2001
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 6: love that man who Danny No, Well, Danny, Yes, Danny's

2002
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 6: mister three Zho five.

2003
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:55,959
Speaker 3: Danny's got some low key bde Oh dude.

2004
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 6: Danny, you should see him. People don't know this about Danny,

2005
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:00,719
Speaker 6: and it's true, so you really see it. I would

2006
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 6: argue that, like, I'm not gonna say Danny has a

2007
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 6: different personality in Spanish because that's not true, but you

2008
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 6: always got a little extra swag when he's speaking.

2009
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 3: S menyol bro shit, Danny spit that game.

2010
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,839
Speaker 1: I will say, though, as good as Danny is potentially

2011
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 1: with the women is not as good as the Beat

2012
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 1: potentially is taking over the featherweight division.

2013
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 6: Okay, I'll tell you Beat. I'll tell you a story

2014
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 6: about job. I tried to hook Danny up with someone

2015
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 6: one time.

2016
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:25,720
Speaker 3: Was she Columbia? She was?

2017
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, it actually worked out favorably for a little time

2018
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:30,680
Speaker 6: for who for him?

2019
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 3: For both? Wow? Are we skipping dead wrong?

2020
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 2: I can read him real fast. We don't need graphics

2021
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 2: or whatever.

2022
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:44,679
Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's close here talking about Danny's

2023
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 1: libido with a great segment we do every Friday morning

2024
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 1: Combat at gmail dot com. No bells and whistles today,

2025
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:52,639
Speaker 1: but it is called dead Wrong. It's where we sit

2026
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 1: on the l's and take our losses. Luke number one,

2027
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 1: it's from Cameron. It's your boy, Cameron Gatlin here from

2028
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 1: Sonny and Smelly, Los Angeles.

2029
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 2: I'm a twenty eight year old Army vet and.

2030
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 3: Father of four nice boys. Your show really.

2031
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 1: Really stops me from taking the Delta eight flight to

2032
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 1: Hell at least once a week.

2033
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 2: Why would it stop him?

2034
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 5: Because I shouldn't it?

2035
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 3: Get courage it?

2036
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 2: I just wanted to dead wrong.

2037
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 1: Luke forty seven minutes into Friday's show, when he said

2038
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:18,759
Speaker 1: what college, Saint Vincent, Saint Mary's, when in fact, Lebron

2039
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 1: didn't go to college that he skipped because.

2040
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:23,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know he skipped college. Motherfucker. I lived through it.

2041
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 2: Nothing major, just wanted to be a little b about it.

2042
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 5: Did he go to Saint Mary's.

2043
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a high school. Yeah, it's a high school

2044
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 6: in Akron, Ohio. You bitch, I mean, dude, these are okay,

2045
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 6: all right, okay, Cameron, nice, nice job, Cameron.

2046
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 2: Okay.

2047
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:41,680
Speaker 1: This one's from Jordan from Hawaii, Hawaii, Luke, Hawaii uh

2048
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 1: aloha donks. In episode two eighty eight, at twenty two minutes,

2049
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 1: when discussing what fight should be next for Volkanovski, Luke

2050
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 1: mentions the possibility of moving up to fight Hafeel dos

2051
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 1: on Jos, stating that he thinks he's fought as low

2052
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 1: as one forty five.

2053
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 3: Oh well he didn't.

2054
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 1: He's while he has fought fight who have moved up

2055
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 1: from one forty five?

2056
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 6: Right, that's fair, that's fair, or moved down. For some reason,

2057
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 6: I thought his early fight against Stevens was.

2058
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 3: A one you're dead wrong, wrong, score one for Jordan.

2059
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 3: And see that's a good that's a good, dead wrong.

2060
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 1: I'll take that, Ben Jordan, Jared Dalton, Fidencio Collin, a

2061
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 1: lot of people riding in here. On Monday Show, when

2062
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 1: discussing Halloween, Volkanovsky being like MMA's Canelo Triple G, what

2063
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 1: did I say?

2064
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:25,560
Speaker 2: Luke said that they are similar in that both fight series.

2065
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 1: Had one of the fighters go to and oh, I

2066
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 1: know Luke knows this, but it's dead fucking wrong. The

2067
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 1: first Triple G Canelo fight ended in a raw one

2068
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 1: ten delta eight.

2069
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Speaker 2: Thanks for the content and the great merch.

2070
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 3: That's a fair point.

2071
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Speaker 5: Okay.

2072
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 6: The reason why I said that it is wrong, but

2073
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:47,719
Speaker 6: the feeling you get is that Canelo was done a favor.

2074
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 1: He was done a big time favor, poor triple That's

2075
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 1: a fair that's a fair correction. It was g yeah, whatever,

2076
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 1: all right, what a great show. Of course, we encourage

2077
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:57,680
Speaker 1: you to continue to follow us, like us to put

2078
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 1: our socials below. Morning cob YouTube dot com slash Morning

2079
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 1: Combat for more about tonight. Tonight is belatore two seven

2080
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 1: seven only on Showtime.

2081
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 2: Of course, thirty day free trial.

2082
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you start right freakin now, Showtime dot Com

2083
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 1: get your thirty three days because you have you have

2084
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 1: to see pit Bull McKee two tonight you have to

2085
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 1: see your boy BC call Fights tomorrow night, showtime seven

2086
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 1: pm Eastern time.

2087
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:23,639
Speaker 3: That's right leading into the pay per view.

2088
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 1: But tonight, Luke, do we have something planned related to

2089
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 1: Belatore two seven seven? Can you tell the audience?

2090
01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 2: Because I have no idea.

2091
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 6: We'll have a post fight show live from I think

2092
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:35,559
Speaker 6: either his or my hotel room, not mine, probably not yours,

2093
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:37,719
Speaker 6: but whatever, we'll have a post fight show for Beltore

2094
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 6: two seventy seven that the car merits it. So stick

2095
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 6: around Morning Combat tonight.

2096
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 3: We got you covered.

2097
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 1: Saturday night is the pay per view, of course, and

2098
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:48,680
Speaker 1: after the fight's Luke, we're going live from inside that

2099
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 1: dome inside.

2100
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 3: They say, we're inside the damn I don't know how

2101
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 3: inside side at and T Stadium, Yeah, or the radio booth.

2102
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:01,719
Speaker 2: We're inside at and T Stadium, Luke, Hey, okay again.

2103
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 3: Once again, I was gonna say, I'm glad you're back,

2104
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 3: but I really don't know.

2105
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 2: Everything is bigger in Texas, including.

2106
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 3: My bulge.

2107
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 2: For our great staff, some of which some of which

2108
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 2: will be let go as the weeks go on.

2109
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 1: Once we get our reality surviving Survivor Malca edition.

2110
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:20,560
Speaker 2: Look at the nervousness. Okay, look at the nervousness.

2111
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2112
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 1: So you know, like I tim that that shoots our documentaries,

2113
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 1: they got him working on here, Like do they have

2114
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 1: j on camera?

2115
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 3: They're just they're just you know, So does that mean

2116
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 3: we were in focus or we were not?

2117
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:34,120
Speaker 1: Probably not because Jay was probably not in focus us Jake,

2118
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 1: the documentarians here, Filthy Phil on the cameras today.

2119
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 2: Special shout out to our crew. Thank you to Sean

2120
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 2: Porter for dropping by. Thank you to our outstanding panel

2121
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 2: we had for our early Way in Reaction.

2122
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 6: Russell Mark to the c The crew did a great

2123
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 6: job today with everything, so thank you very much.

2124
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:51,520
Speaker 1: You can check out our Way in Reaction on Showtime's

2125
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 1: YouTube channel as well. We had a great chat with

2126
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Michael Parsons living great guys.

2127
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 2: So uh look, it's a big fight weekend.

2128
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 1: So hopefully you realize that there's no greater home the

2129
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 1: show Time and no two wash your fellas to drive

2130
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 1: you to those fights than these two at Morning Combat,

2131
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 1: your award winning show.

2132
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 2: I love the show. I love being here with you.

2133
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 3: Luke. I am glad you're back. Thank you so much. Okay,

2134
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 3: I did miss you. I didn't go away on vacation.

2135
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 3: Family was sick. But you know what, Lukey, you gotta

2136
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:18,640
Speaker 3: just grind, you gotta grind through it.

2137
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:21,680
Speaker 6: Okay, we both have missed vacations by virtue of our

2138
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 6: families getting sick.

2139
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 3: That's true. That's true.

2140
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 1: So a lot of analysis, analysis coming your way, a

2141
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 1: lot of reaction shows coming your way.

2142
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 2: Thank you to the fine people here of Arlington texts. Hey,

2143
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:33,799
Speaker 2: let's put it together for morning combat.

2144
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 3: That's the saddest shit I've ever heard. Yeah, that's not

2145
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 3: that's not cool.

2146
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 1: That's not cool for this fine gentlemen, Luke Thomas, my

2147
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 1: name is Brian Campbell, reminding you may all your ex

2148
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 1: lovers stay satisfied. I mean, fuck a loyal gain. Right

2149
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, can.

2150
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 3: We close this off please? I have to take it down.

2151
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Speaker 3: We out. Yeah,