WEBVTT - How Do I Know If I Have An Eating Disorder? (Outweigh)

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<v Speaker 1>I won't let my body out way outweigh everything that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm made, don't won't spend my life trying to change.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm learning to love who I am again. I'm strong,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel free and know who every part of me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's beautiful and I will always outway if you feel

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<v Speaker 1>it with joys and the Here she's love to the

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<v Speaker 1>boom by a day. Let's say good day and time

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<v Speaker 1>did you and die out? Happy Saturday? Outweigh Amy. Here

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<v Speaker 1>and I am joined by Cat Defada, licensed therapist. She

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<v Speaker 1>co hosts The Fifth Thing with Me and she's also

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<v Speaker 1>the host of her own podcast called You Need Therapy

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<v Speaker 1>and Cat and bring you on Outweigh Today. Because I

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<v Speaker 1>got an email that's to both of us. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>listener she must listen to four Things, Fifth Thing and Outweigh.

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<v Speaker 1>And her name's Abby and she's thirteen years old. And

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<v Speaker 1>I thought this was the sweetest note ever. So here

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<v Speaker 1>it is. Hey, Amy, my name is Abby and I

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<v Speaker 1>am thirteen. As of a few weeks ago, I am

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat of a new listener and I absolutely love your show.

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<v Speaker 1>I was wondering, how do I know if I have

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<v Speaker 1>a neating disorder? Do I actually have to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>a professional or is there a way I can find

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<v Speaker 1>out for myself. I also want to say that you're

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<v Speaker 1>so brave for sharing your story. I haven't been able

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<v Speaker 1>to benefit from it, but I know there are a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of people out there that have gotten good results

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<v Speaker 1>out of your podcast. You and Cat are a blessing.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to listen to you while I do chores,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love all the recommendations you make, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>about food or clothes or TV. I most likely won't

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<v Speaker 1>be able to make it to your live podcasts because

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<v Speaker 1>of school, even though I would love to come. Once again,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to thank you and Kat for everything you do.

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<v Speaker 1>Your friend Abby smiley face. I love that she's so smart.

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<v Speaker 1>She does chores, she has chores, she listens to podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>Why she has chores basically us Yeah, And so this

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<v Speaker 1>is outweigh. I feel like when we do the fifth thing,

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about all kinds of things, but we'll focus

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<v Speaker 1>on the question that she had in there. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is for someone listening whether you're twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>years old or you're sixty, sixty five, seventy years old,

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<v Speaker 1>because I've heard from listeners that age range having curiosity

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<v Speaker 1>about disordered eating behaviors, and so Kat, being the licensed therapist,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to throw it over to you. How does

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<v Speaker 1>someone know they have an eating disorder? And then should

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<v Speaker 1>they actually talk to a professional to find out or

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<v Speaker 1>diagnose themselves in a way or can we find out

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<v Speaker 1>on our own? So I like that we're addressing this piece.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is a question that comes up a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>especially because there's not just one eating disorder. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>like you have eating disorder. There's like a million, not

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<v Speaker 1>really a million, but there's a lot of ways that

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<v Speaker 1>it can be a diagnose. And then it looks how

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<v Speaker 1>I feel about this. I think this bleeds from professional

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<v Speaker 1>to even how I think as a human. The real

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<v Speaker 1>issue when it comes down to people asking the question,

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<v Speaker 1>how do I know if I have eating disorder? Isn't

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<v Speaker 1>so much do you have this eating disorder that according

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<v Speaker 1>to the Diagnostic Statistical Manual that we can diagnose you

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<v Speaker 1>and write this in your medical chart. The real issue

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<v Speaker 1>is your relationship to food, or your body, or exercise

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<v Speaker 1>or a combination of those. Are any of those affecting

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<v Speaker 1>your quality of life? Are any of those things keeping

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<v Speaker 1>you from doing the things you want to do, or

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<v Speaker 1>being the kind of person you want to be, or

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<v Speaker 1>experiencing the things in life you want to experience. That

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<v Speaker 1>then is enough to say that, Okay, this is an

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<v Speaker 1>issue for you, and there is hope and there are

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<v Speaker 1>other ways to live outside of that box you're in

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<v Speaker 1>right now. So rather than looking do I have all

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that meet the criteria, it does my

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<v Speaker 1>relationship to any of these things affect my quality of life.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you did a recent episode about this because

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<v Speaker 1>we actually talked about it last Saturday, And by we,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I did with my listeners. I feel as

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<v Speaker 1>though anyone listening it's a wee. So because it was

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<v Speaker 1>need a week and you had your Monday episode on

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<v Speaker 1>Unique Therapy, but then your Wednesday episode is your Couch Talks,

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<v Speaker 1>you pretty much answered this question along with others, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I encouraged people to go listen to if

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<v Speaker 1>they have that. I was on Nita's website and then

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<v Speaker 1>that got me thinking about all the other different resources

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<v Speaker 1>out there, and I started clicking around to different things,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was in the show notes last week that

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<v Speaker 1>I linked it, and it was questions you can ask yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>like like you were saying, Okay, do I have an

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<v Speaker 1>unhealthy relationship? Or is this getting in the way of

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<v Speaker 1>my life? And sometimes it's even hard to tell that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that questionnaire or other questionnaires, if you were

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<v Speaker 1>to search some up might just get It's like a prompt.

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<v Speaker 1>It can help you flore how you really feel, because

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like there was times in my eating disorder

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<v Speaker 1>where it just seemed like, Okay, I thought, kind of,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just how life is, so I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>it was a red flag. Yeah, especial everybody probably feels

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<v Speaker 1>this way, right, yeah, or well, there's definitely some thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>I had where I was like, oh my gosh, I

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<v Speaker 1>could never share this thought that I just have because

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<v Speaker 1>it's so crazy, or I can't believe this behavior I

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<v Speaker 1>just did. Oh, like I had so much shame around it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then thankfully other people started to share their story

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<v Speaker 1>for their stories, and I was like, oh, yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not alone in hiding food. I remember kale Junkie, that's

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<v Speaker 1>her handle on Instagram, but she started talking about her

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<v Speaker 1>Binge eating disorder and like when she really had a

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<v Speaker 1>feeling like, Okay, this is out of control. I need

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<v Speaker 1>to get some help. He was either her boyfriend at

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<v Speaker 1>the time or her husband. But he came home and

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<v Speaker 1>she had like hidden bread in her bed. He walked

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<v Speaker 1>in and she was like, oh my god. She didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want him seeing her devouring a loaf bread because she

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<v Speaker 1>thought she was going to be alone. And that was

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<v Speaker 1>a moment where she thought, oh, I mean there were

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<v Speaker 1>several other things she had done, her just getting vulnerable

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<v Speaker 1>and sharing that one story where she had so much shame.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very embarrassed for her significant other, her partner,

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<v Speaker 1>to see her in this light, and then how she

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<v Speaker 1>was able to eventually open up to him and how

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<v Speaker 1>supportive he was of what she was going through. That

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<v Speaker 1>story stuck with me is oh, okay, I'm not alone

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<v Speaker 1>in some of the things that I've done. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>little tangent there about the different thoughts, but wondering if

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<v Speaker 1>your thoughts are normal or thinking is this a needing

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<v Speaker 1>disorder thought or is this a disordered behavior? We don't

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<v Speaker 1>know because sometimes society even tells us working out this

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<v Speaker 1>much or dieting this much is not disordered, So it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to decipher. I was going to say, I remember

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<v Speaker 1>a specific experience where I went to lunch with my

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<v Speaker 1>family it was me, my grandma, my mom, and my sister,

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<v Speaker 1>and they chose to go to chilies, which back then

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<v Speaker 1>I loved chilies. But I had an internal breakdown where

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, I'm not gonna be able to eat anything,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not gonna be able to get food, and

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<v Speaker 1>then when's the next time I'm gonna be able to eat?

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<v Speaker 1>And there's not gonna be anything on this menu. And

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<v Speaker 1>I remember ordering a salad without any of the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that came on it. It was I think, just lettuce

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<v Speaker 1>and chicken something like that, and I remember my sister

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<v Speaker 1>saying something to me. I don't know what it was,

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<v Speaker 1>but I had this very like aha moment of everybody

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<v Speaker 1>else is enjoying themselves except me, and I'm actually impacting

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<v Speaker 1>their ability to enjoy their meal right now because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so worried about what I'm going to eat. And that

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<v Speaker 1>was very helpful for me to see. Wait, all these

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<v Speaker 1>behaviors that I thought were going to help me, they

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<v Speaker 1>are keeping me from having conversation. At this lunch with

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<v Speaker 1>my grandma was in town to visit. I could not

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<v Speaker 1>focus on anything else than what I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>eat and then what I was going to do about

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<v Speaker 1>what I was going to eat, and so I share

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<v Speaker 1>that example kind of similar to what you just said,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was like when I had already been I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I was in the value of all of it. And

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that is really helpful, and I like that

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<v Speaker 1>this listener is asking this question now. Is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most helpful things we can do is get help before,

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<v Speaker 1>like get ahead of it. So when we notice, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if this might be something that I

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<v Speaker 1>should be doing, or I don't know if my relationship

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<v Speaker 1>is healthy or unhealthy, I don't I don't really know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'm missing out on stuff, if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm even wandering those questions, get ahead of it, go

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<v Speaker 1>reach out for help. And if you don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>neating disorder or disorder eating, great, well, now you have

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship with a therapist and you can work on

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<v Speaker 1>other things. But if you do great, now you can

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<v Speaker 1>kind of get help and work on the things that

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<v Speaker 1>you need to work on before you're in the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of the pit where it's going to be even more

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<v Speaker 1>hard or harder or more challenging to reach out and

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<v Speaker 1>ask for help and change behaviors. Oh yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>there's times where so far down in a hole that

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to climb my way out and it

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<v Speaker 1>seemed daunting and overwhelming and not doable. But the good

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<v Speaker 1>news is there is hope, there are sources. It is doable.

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<v Speaker 1>And earlier I mentioned just getting the prompts or taking

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<v Speaker 1>online like if some of these online resources that are

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<v Speaker 1>dedicated to eating disorder, you can take that as a

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<v Speaker 1>prompt or take the quiz or whatever, but look at

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<v Speaker 1>some of those questions and then maybe journal through them.

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<v Speaker 1>And something I did was four days in a row,

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<v Speaker 1>journaled about different questions but they were all sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the same in the same vein. But it was an exercise.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I went back and was supposed to go

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<v Speaker 1>through and circle the words that kept showing up over

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<v Speaker 1>and over. And it was bizarre because by day four

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<v Speaker 1>I'm journaling, I didn't really honestly remember everything I had

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<v Speaker 1>written at day one, and they were different questions, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was parallel. If you would do that with food

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day, you would be able to circle

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<v Speaker 1>some things that would have been like WHOA, yes, who

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize that this always is in my head. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And you mentioning not being able to connect around the

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<v Speaker 1>table at Chili's, or enjoy that time, and that's what

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<v Speaker 1>Britney Spencer. She sings the theme song at the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of this, and it's you know, I won't let my

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<v Speaker 1>body outweigh outweigh everything that I'm made of. I won't

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<v Speaker 1>spend my life trying to change. I'm learning to love

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<v Speaker 1>who I am. That's part of the I guess there's

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<v Speaker 1>a chorus, but the verse is missing out on family

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<v Speaker 1>meals around the table because what Grandma made is bad,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not able, and I missed out on so

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<v Speaker 1>many family meals because yeah, my brain was somewhere else

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about all the things, Oh, if I eat that,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have to go work out, or if I

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<v Speaker 1>eat that, or or not enjoying what everybody else is having,

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<v Speaker 1>and bringing my own plates like to a family meal,

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<v Speaker 1>my own function and my own tup aware are going

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<v Speaker 1>to the store so I could control everything, and then

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<v Speaker 1>also then trying to force everybody else to eat it.

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<v Speaker 1>When they're like, no, I'm good, they're like don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want that. I don't want that. So abby, Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for the note. You're very brave at

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen to send a note and to be curious. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's one of the big guess things that we

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<v Speaker 1>can do in life when it comes to all things

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<v Speaker 1>is be curious. And you're curious. You don't know where

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<v Speaker 1>you are, but I think it's super cool that you're

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<v Speaker 1>asking and continue to do that in all areas of

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<v Speaker 1>your life. And if you have access to a professional amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely do it. I don't know what your relationship is

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<v Speaker 1>like with your parents, but that might be a good

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<v Speaker 1>place to start to see if you can have some

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<v Speaker 1>resources or talk with other friends, or if you have

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<v Speaker 1>cool aunt in your life. Sometimes it's easier to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to someone that's not our mom or a dad, even

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<v Speaker 1>if you do have a good relationship. I found that

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<v Speaker 1>to be true. One time. My mom's best friend took

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<v Speaker 1>me out to lunch and I really looked up to

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<v Speaker 1>this person. I thought it was so cool and I

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<v Speaker 1>was I was able to open up to her way

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<v Speaker 1>more than I did my mom. And it's not because

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<v Speaker 1>my mom did anything wrong, just the way it is. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope y'all are having the day that you need

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<v Speaker 1>to have. That's what Cat loves to say, and definitely

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<v Speaker 1>check out. You need therapy. Podcast, especially last week's Nita episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>which I guess for this Saturday would be not the

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<v Speaker 1>last week that we just had, but the one before.

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<v Speaker 1>But all of Cat's episodes are good, all of them. Download,

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<v Speaker 1>subscribe single, like and subscribe. Also like and subscribe to

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<v Speaker 1>Outway too while you're at it. Okay, all right, bye

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<v Speaker 1>bye