1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: What is up everybody? Welcome to move the sticks. Daniel 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: Jeremiah joined by Bucky Brooks and Bucky we are inside 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: a week before we get to Cleveland for the NFL Draft, 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: and I cannot wait for this thing finally get here. Yeah, DJ, 6 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: It's really exciting because we're less than a week away. 7 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: We've speculated about the players, we've talked about the picks 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: and the potential trades that happened, but now we're close 9 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: to being able to see what is going to actually happen. 10 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: And then we have the fun part of then ish 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: fromille grades and doing all that other fun stuff. Now, 12 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: tell everybody what we got on the show today. We 13 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: got jam Pack show today, Buck, Yeah, jam Peg show today. 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: So first we'll talk about Trevor Lawrence three sixty fantastic 15 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: segment that we have with people to know him. We 16 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: also would go on and talk about Zack Wilson and 17 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: what has been the result of his rise, why he's 18 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: really shot up the charts, and finally gonna take the 19 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: Patriots into the body shop and make sure that we 20 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: get them fixed and ready to go. So they can 21 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: return to being one of the top teams in the a 22 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: a f C. I love the body shop Man. We 23 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: get the Patriots in there, so if we can't fix 24 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: them up a little bit. But before we get to 25 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: all that stuff, I do want to talk about some 26 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: recent events here. Trey Lance had his second Pro Day 27 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: buck not not a lot of teams were there. It 28 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: was basically a showcase event. When you think about the 29 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: forty Niners, the Falcons, the Broncos, the Patriots kind of 30 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: being the main teams there for that workout, what do 31 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: you think could be accomplished in the second Pro Day? Well, 32 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I think the second Pro Day it's all 33 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: about Trey Lands being able to show people up close 34 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: and personal what he could do in their offense. Obviously, 35 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: you understand that teams talk to the private coaches and 36 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: so they can script the workout to kind of check 37 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: off some boxes in terms of, hey, let's see him 38 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: on the move, let's him do some of these play 39 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: acts and stuff, to see you throw some of these concepts. 40 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: I think Trey Lance was able to just kind of 41 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: bring some of that imagination to life, some of the 42 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: creativity that offers recording. It is may have when thinking 43 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: about how they can utilize him. Well, let's see him 44 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: do it on the field. Man. We really have a 45 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: clear picture for how we could utilize them within our system. 46 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: Plus there's another opportunity to be around the guy, right. 47 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: You can get a chance to see what his presence 48 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: looks like, what his leadership looks like, with his guys 49 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: out there on the field. So valuable experience for those 50 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: teams that went there to check it out. And when 51 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: we look at Trey Lanton, how high he can go? Uh, Look, 52 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: I think I think it's in play. He's in play 53 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: there at number three with the with the forty Niners. However, 54 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: I think that's the ceiling, right because the guy that's 55 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: gonna go number two to the New York Jets, I 56 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: think we have a pretty good idea of who that 57 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: guy is. Can you talk a little bit about your 58 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: first impression is Zach Wilson when you met him. He's 59 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: got a real firm command of the offense. He knows 60 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: what he's doing, and he's got this gleam in his eye, 61 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: this excitement for the game. People see that and go 62 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: all right, I think I think something really cool is 63 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: about to have us play It's been great to see 64 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: his development as a player. He's always been really special 65 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: in terms of athleticism and how much he loves the game, 66 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: his approach and his drive towards becoming the best he 67 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: can be. I don't care what sport it is. There's 68 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: intangibles there that some people have and some players don't. 69 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: Zach has those intangtions. Those are things that you have 70 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: to do on the fly to make something out enough Wilson, 71 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: you throw Street there the same fast which he has 72 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: in football. He had that on the basketball. Really competitive, 73 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: good leadership, and he has a definite swagger and how 74 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: he carries himself. He like to run guys over in 75 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: high school. And that's why he's where he's at right 76 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: now is because no shots. A bad shot, I can 77 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: get by anybody. And to be at the level z 78 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: acts add you have to have Wilson to touchdown. Who 79 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 1: are you Wilson towards the end zone? Added is card touchdown. 80 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: When I wrote in my note while I was evaluated, 81 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: I wrote down the natchal he could play on script 82 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: or off the script at any time. He can make 83 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: that gamebreak and play. He doesn't need to force that 84 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: ball on second down. But he's never met a throw 85 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: he didn't like and and he's never seen a challenge 86 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,799 Speaker 1: that he was afraid to rise to. I love Aaron Rodgers, 87 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: but I think Zach is a far superior athlete. He 88 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: love in control. I think he is a tough man 89 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: because he does all the things that you you asked 90 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: him and then more. It's been cool to see that 91 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: maturation process in terms of decision making, also in terms 92 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: of rising to even becoming a better players. I've seen 93 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: him when he's struggling with his own injuries, looked out 94 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: to serve under Wilson into the end zone and it 95 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: is hauled in for the touchdown. He's got the mobility, 96 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: he's got the arm strength Wilson to throw touchdown. There 97 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: are you for me? It was like, Okay, this guy's 98 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: got it. He's got a high level of competition, and 99 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: I like this leadership. He has the ability to make 100 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: you pay a play face for the end zone. That's 101 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: another night right there. He is one of the top 102 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: athletes I have ever coached. Oh that is exciting. I 103 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: cannot wait for this one. That's where we take a 104 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: complete look at Zach Wilson's rise from those who are 105 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: closest to him. Make sure you check out NFL dot Com, podcast, Spotify, 106 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: Apple or your favorite podcast provider during the draft week 107 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: to download this episode in the meantime, The Trevor Lawrence 108 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: three sixty. It's currently out right now. Um Buck, I 109 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: don't know about you, man, but to me, first of all, 110 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: the team did a phenomenal job putting that all together 111 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: with with all these conversations we've had in accompany with 112 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: the video here. But when you watch him on the 113 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: on the court, I got a little geeked up a 114 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: little bit see him go to the left dust and 115 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: that one of little eurostep and then gave me a 116 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,239 Speaker 1: little left That was nice. He is a fantastic athlete. 117 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: I think the athleticism shows up on the football field. 118 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 1: And we have talked to several coaches about multi sport 119 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: athletes playing the quarterback position. Uh, they've talked about basketball 120 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: players in the vision, and when I look at Zack Wilson, 121 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: I do believe he has satellite vision with eagle eyes, 122 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: meaning he sees the entire field, but he's able to 123 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 1: lock in and focus on these reads. That is something 124 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: that some young quarterbacks are not able to do. And 125 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: So when you take that and you complement it with 126 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: his arm talent and his ability to operate on the 127 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: move because of his athleticism, Man, he's a tough quarterback 128 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: to defend. And I think he's one of the reasons 129 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: why the Jets coaching staff is very, very excited about 130 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: what he could do if they select him over the 131 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: next two drafts. Uh, the Jets have picks and this 132 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: draft and in the following draft. So if he's gonna 133 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: do something Sam Donald wasn't able to do, which is 134 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: be successful there with the New York Jets, they're gonna 135 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: need to hit on these picks. The good news Buck, 136 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: you look at the just sheer volume of picks that 137 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: they have. You look at the two ones this year, Um, 138 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: then you flip over to next year, two ones, two twos. 139 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: I mean, they have a lot of resources. Where would 140 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: you suggest they go with these other resources? Provided they 141 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: do what we assume they're going to do and take 142 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: Wilson at two you know, like like DJ when when 143 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: I think about it, I think the first year has 144 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: to be all about upgrading the offense to make the 145 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: quarterback very very comfortable. Um. So we can talk about um, 146 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson comes in, you need another playmaker at running back. Uh. 147 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: They try to add playmakers at wide receiver, but I 148 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: would take another flyer on a wide receiver. Upgrading the 149 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: offensive line. If you can find a playmate to go 150 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: opposite McKay Beckton, now you can run the football, you 151 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: can throw comfortably off play action. Those things will work. 152 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: The first year has to be about the commitment to 153 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: Zack Wilson and making sure that he can get off 154 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: to a fast story. I would love it if if 155 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: they could come out of the first three rounds again 156 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: this year. They do have two threes as well as 157 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: those two ones. If they could come out of that 158 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: with two offensive lineman in the first three rounds, that 159 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: I think can be starters. You've got McKay becked in there. 160 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: Now you've got a young nucleus at that front. You 161 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: can build around and protect him. And again I would 162 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: I would tell coach Salo and the d offensive staff, guys, 163 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: we went, I got your Carl Lawson. We we did 164 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: the best we could. Right now, you gotta make do 165 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: with what we got because we have to load up 166 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: on offense to get them up and running on that 167 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: side of the ball. But again, just to kind of 168 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: summarize it here, we do believe Zack Wilson is going 169 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,559 Speaker 1: to be the second pick, but his success is gonna 170 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: largely depend on what Joe Douglass is able to get 171 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: accomplished with those other twenty picks over the next two drafts. Alright, Black, 172 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: When we look at Trevor Lawrence, we can acknowledge he's 173 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: going to be the first overall pick with the Jacksonville Jaguar. 174 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: So let's let's look at that first overall quarterback group 175 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: and kind of put into context where Trevor Lawrence would 176 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: slide in. We look at these guys that have gone 177 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: number one overall in the past few years. I mean, look, 178 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: I think he's in the upper tier. In that upper 179 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: tier in my mind includes Andrew Luck and Cam Newton. 180 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: I would think that he is right there Andrew Luck, 181 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, Cam Newton in terms of coming out of college, 182 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: and then the rest of the number one. I think 183 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: he's more talented. I think he's better prepared and he 184 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: has done more things on a bigger stage than those 185 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: other guys. And those other guys include Jamis Weston, Baker Mayfield, 186 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: Jerry Golf, Kelor, Murray, Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence is the 187 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: prototypical franchise quarterback prospect that every general manager wants. He 188 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: has the size, he has the armed talant, he has 189 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: the winning pedigree, He's displayed the leadership skills. It's really 190 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: hard to nitpick his game and say, look, this is 191 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: why he won't succeed. He is everything that you want 192 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: in the prospect, and so I understand why it's kind 193 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: of been, uh, a very seamless process for him to 194 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: be the number one overall pick. Yeah, I think there's 195 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: like we could poke holes in some of those other guys. 196 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 1: When you look at Kyler and Burrow were kind of 197 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: they kind of came out of nowhere. Baker even, you know, 198 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: from from what you expected and then where he ended 199 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: up getting. He had some limitations there with the size 200 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: and all those things. Um, and then Winston some turnovers. 201 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: Matt go through the list, But Andrew Luck, to me, 202 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: was as clean as it got. And I would take 203 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: Luck over Trevor Lawrence. But this is the closest thing 204 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: to that. As great as Cam was, there was still okay, 205 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: there was that one unbelievable year. Um there at Auburn. 206 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: So to me, there's less questions about Trevor than anyone 207 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: going all the way back to Andrew Luck And that's 208 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: that's pretty darn good company. It is really good company. Um. 209 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 1: He's a unique player in terms of just how he's 210 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: been able to handle everything from his freshman year on. 211 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: He came in with a lot of hype, but he 212 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: actually played up and lived up to all the expectations 213 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: that were thrown on him and what he was supposed 214 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: to do at Clemson. And if you go all the 215 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: way back and you look at the background and you 216 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: see how he was able to succeed in high school 217 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: then at college and the maturity that he's displayed. Look, 218 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: they're there are no sure things in the National Football League, 219 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: But I think if you're a general manager, particularly the 220 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: Jackson and Jaguars, you sleep well at night knowing that 221 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: you've landed a franchise quarterback that appears to have all 222 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: the things that are necessary to be a great one 223 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: on the field, no doubt. You see your top five 224 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: quarterback lists there as you go through him, you see 225 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: Trevor at the very top and the the guy at 226 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: the bottom though, is one. It's really fascinating in mac Jones. 227 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of discussion. Uh, there's a lot 228 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: out there saying it's gonna be the third overall pick 229 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: to the San Francisco forty niners. We'll see how that 230 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: goes down. But he is an interesting case study. And 231 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: I know you had a chance recently to visit with 232 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: our buddy Trent Dilford to get his thoughts on mac Jones. 233 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: And I think one of the great things but Alabama's 234 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: offense this year was how how mac Jones ran the show. 235 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: He processed a laudation and small amounts of time, he 236 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: was able to find their matchups that created the biggest 237 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: advantages for him. He was highly precise as a thrower. 238 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: He's got very good throwing talent. Uh. Where he lacks 239 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: is the ability to play second reaction football. So if 240 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: you're drafting him, you need to draft him to a 241 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: situation where you're going to be more of an operator. 242 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: You're gonna operate the offense. You're gonna have a lot 243 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: of keys the line of scrimmage to get into the 244 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: best plays. He's as good as athlete as Peyton Manning, 245 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: and he's as good as athlete as Tom Brady. Uh, 246 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: he needs to play that style of offense. If he is, 247 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: If that's your plan for him, then he's a first 248 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: round pick. There's a scouting report on Mac Jones. I 249 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: thought Trendilford a good job of explaining it to me. 250 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: The accuracy, the efficiency, Um, just a touch thrower, good placement, 251 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: those things you don't question. It's some of those second 252 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,599 Speaker 1: reactionary throws he was talking about. Can you have the 253 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: twitch to be able to get away and can you 254 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: be at least a little bit of a threat as 255 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: a runner. Those are some of the downsides uh there 256 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: with Mac Jones. But to me, Bucky, it's an interesting 257 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: case study and we had a little bit of this 258 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: with Joe Burrow last year, where you have to be 259 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: able to evaluate the individual player and kind of pull 260 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: them out of the environment that they're in. I mean, 261 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: with with everything he had in front of him, behind 262 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: him at running back and out at wide receiver. Um, 263 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: he was driving a Ferrari there at Alabama. But you 264 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: have to evaluate the individual skill set and how that 265 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: translates to the next level kind of devoid of of 266 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: what's around him. Yeah, because you have to be able 267 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: to evaluate that unless you can recreate what Alabama has, 268 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: And so a lot of this comes down to who 269 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: are the teams that are really in serious contention to 270 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: take Mac Jones, What is the play caller like, and 271 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: what does the play caller desire. We have talked about 272 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: this in video game terms. If I'm a gamer, mac 273 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: Jones is the joystick, meaning trend different talked about like, Hey, 274 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: he's an operator distributor. That's why I call him the joystick. 275 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: All I need mac Jones to do is to take 276 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: what I'm thinking in my mind and just make it 277 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: come to life. And for practice, We're not going to 278 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: ask him to do a lot of things on his own. 279 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: We're going to create the environment where he can't mess up. 280 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: So we're gonna surround him with a talented offensive line, 281 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: big time playmakers. We're just going to let him play, 282 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: catch him run football, and let the guys around him 283 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: allow him to have success. If you can find that situation, 284 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: mac Jones certainly is worthy because he might be the 285 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: best in the business at doing it that way. But 286 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: if you need more at the extra, I don't know 287 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: if mac Jones can give you the extra Yeah, I 288 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: mean to me, it's our and trailer's argument. We've been 289 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: talking about trucks and trailers for a long time on 290 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: Movie Sticks podcast. There's a few quarterbacks that are trucks 291 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: and what's around him is irrelevant. They can kind of 292 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: pull everybody to to the finish line. And then there's trailers, 293 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: so they're gonna get pulled by the supporting cast and 294 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: they're going to try and get to the same destination point, 295 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: just doing it a different way. I definitely think that 296 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: Mac is is a trailer. I think you need to 297 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: have those things in place. But if you do, uh, 298 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: you can be very successful because as Trent said, he 299 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: is a distributor, he is an operator. Um. And when 300 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: you have guys that can win one on one matchups, 301 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: and you have a play call or and a play 302 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: designer that can get you favorable matchups, um, and you've 303 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: got a quarterback who can see the game the same 304 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: way as the play caller, you can have tremendous success. 305 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: And I think that is that is why. Look, if 306 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: Mac Jones goes to the forty Niners, I think he 307 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: will be He'll be fine. He's gonna play well, They're 308 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: gonna win a lot of games. He's gonna put up 309 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: good numbers. He's gonna be accurate and efficient. I don't 310 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: think that Mac translates to all the other teams that 311 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: are in the quarterback market quite as well. But I 312 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: like you said, Buck to me, if you're gonna say 313 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: who can recreate Alabama in the NFL, I mean put 314 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: the Chiefs aside. But to me, the forty Niners, of 315 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: the teams that need a quarterback, they can recreate that 316 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: atmosphere more than any other team that needs one. Yeah. Absolutely, 317 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: And and that's why it's a really tricky situation when 318 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: we talk about mock drafting, right, because you can mark 319 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: mac Jones to the forty Niners while also making the 320 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: admission he's not as talented as Zack Wilson justin fields 321 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: and trey lance. But what he might be is the 322 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: better fit for what Kyle Shanahan envisions as his QB 323 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: one for his offense. You know, time with tell the 324 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: one thing in looking at mac Jones in that scenario 325 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: is how much better can he be at the next level. 326 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: I know there's been the Tom Brady comparison, but Tom 327 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: Brady has twenty plush years of cataloged experience that has 328 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: allowed him to be the best of the business at 329 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: uses utilizing his mind to win the priest snap face. 330 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: How quickly can mac Jones after having seven collegiate starts 331 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: get up to snuff to being able to win the game? 332 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: You in his i Q and instincts to defeat defenses. Yeah, 333 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: I know what. That one full season this year was fantastic, 334 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: But it was just that one full season plus a 335 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: couple of games last year. It'll be interesting. It'll be 336 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: interesting to see where mac Jones lands. Will be interesting 337 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: to see how he does at the next level. And 338 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: it's time to take the New England Patriots in to 339 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: the move the sticks, body shop and buck. This is 340 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: a car that ran smoothly for about twenty years. How 341 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: a little hiccup last year. So we gotta get this 342 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: vehicle back up and running here. So we've got some 343 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: work to do. Yeah, we got plenty of work to do. 344 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: And I think when we look at the needs, it 345 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: has to start at the quarterback position. We can talk 346 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: about Cam Newton and those other things, but we need 347 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: quarterback to address. We need wide receiver, edge rusher, linebacker 348 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: in corner. Basically, the entire team needs to go and 349 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: get overall. So we try and work on that. Uh, 350 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: while we haven't in the body shop, Yeah, we got 351 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: him in the body shop. We talked about the engine 352 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: being the draft. That's how you get this thing really 353 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: rolling here. So uh for for this exercise, Buck, I 354 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: know we've talked a lot about on the show about 355 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: maybe moving up potentially for a quarterback. Let's say they 356 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: can't move up. Let's say the Patriots are stuck there 357 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: at fifteen. What do they do? Well? I think they 358 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 1: have to address the defense and let's go to cornerback 359 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: because quarterback is the most important position in this defense 360 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: because they play so much man to man. How about 361 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: Greg Newsome from Northwestern? And when I look at Greg Newsome, 362 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: the reason why he really fits in New England. He's 363 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: a versatile player. This is a guy that can do 364 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: anything that you want to see on the island. He 365 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: can play bump, he can play off manner zone. He 366 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: has good instincts and awareness. To me, his game screens 367 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: Patriots player. Yeah, football smarts right. That fits right in 368 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: line with what the Patriots want to do. And somebody 369 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: they can find and play the ball very well. We 370 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: get to pick forty six. Again, we haven't been able 371 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: to address the quarterback position, and it could fall this way. 372 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,479 Speaker 1: So let's let's look at some other areas of Nate. 373 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: Let's go receiver, and let's go Rondale Moore, who you 374 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: want to talk about, versatility, all the gadget stuff you 375 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: want to do with him, fly sweeps, you can throw 376 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 1: him in the backfield, just get the ball in his 377 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: hands and the fund begins. And this New England offense 378 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: says always been at its best when it's been built 379 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: inside out. Julian Edelman retires Buck and we can slide 380 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: Rondel Moore right in. You know, he would be probably 381 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: the most dynamic slob receiver that they've had, and that 382 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: is an impressive accomplishment when you consider West Welker, Julian Edelman, 383 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: Troy Brown, he's the most explosive when it comes to 384 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: his speed, quickness and burst. He would give them an 385 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: add a dimension on the offense for sure. All right, well, 386 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: can we get a quarterback here? I know we haven't 387 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: got left. Yeah, so we're gonna take you when We're 388 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: gonna take cal Trash with the third round pick ninety overall. 389 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,239 Speaker 1: And the reason why cal Trash is a nice fit 390 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: is because we have seen him operate as a distributor 391 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: in this offense, and we understand Josh McDaniels can tweak 392 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: the system to make it where it is all about 393 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: getting the ball out. Let the playmakers do the work. 394 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: They've upgraded the playmakers around the quarterback with the two 395 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: tight ends John H. Smith Hunter Henry some of the 396 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: weapons on the outside, and then you just need a 397 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: playmaker that can get it to him and let them 398 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: go to work. I think cal Trash would certainly fit 399 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: that role. Yeah, the little buzzing leak circles that Patriots 400 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: have been doing a lot of homework on Trask. All right, 401 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: let's get to their last pick here, uh that we're 402 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: gonna do today, pick number one, twenty and I'm gonna 403 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: go to South Carolina linebacker Ernest Jones. And the first 404 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: tape I watched on Jones actually was against Florida Buck. 405 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: He can play on the line of scrimmage, plays over 406 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: tight ends. Man. He beat up Kyle Pitts pretty good 407 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: in that game at the line of scrimmage. Very physical, 408 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: He's got stopping power as a tackler. When he hits guys, 409 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: it is over to me. I think some of that versatility. 410 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: Some of that physicality would be appreciated by the New 411 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: England Patriots. That's why I have Ernest Jones going to 412 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: pick one twenty. Yeah. But the one thing you know 413 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: about the Patriots, they like heavy handed linebackers. They believe 414 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: that their physicality and toughness gives them an edge over everybody. 415 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: And so Ernest Jones game is exactly what the Patriots 416 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: like typically had that position. Now there you go, We've 417 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: got the Patriots taken care of here today in the 418 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: body shop, Immediately you recognized the town level is just 419 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: off the charts, rare, rare, physical specimen. Sometimes you think 420 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: he's supernatural down I did not know that Justin had 421 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: a background in baseball. I met Jessin at a youth camp. 422 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: You could see the athletics. There is anything him. Early. 423 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: He was able to move really well playing baseball. He 424 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: was really fluid with his motion. He could have went 425 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: to the next level in baseball, but his heart was 426 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: set on football. Just to watch him brought back and 427 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: throw the ball down the field, you knew you had 428 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: somebody that's pretty special. And anytime you have a quarterback 429 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 1: that can throw the ball the way he could, you 430 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: know the good things are in store that delivered was 431 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: already there. I think he's just a matrial world one, 432 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: you know, having a quarterback like justin Fields, you thought 433 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: outside the box. The first time we put in power Read, 434 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: he went sixty yards to the house. He was getting 435 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: bored just with high school. You know, he needed a 436 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: new challenge. I think the Elite eleven competition broke the 437 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: best out of all. We had a lot of time 438 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: with him as a counselor this summer at a Lead eleven. 439 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: He's got that hit quality where they make everybody around 440 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:05,959 Speaker 1: them better. His size, his power output, his steed, and 441 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: then a perrapsman like you don't. Most of those guys 442 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: are the pusher. You know, they have a big machetting 443 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: they chop up me. Very rarely view five vs. Player 444 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: because they're also surgeons. They know how to handle the 445 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: tiniest tool that can save your life. And he really 446 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: approaches his craft with a burning desire to get better field. 447 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: He's gonna go to the theme played DPR did put down. 448 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 1: He's very poised, very steady, doesn't get rounded. He's six three, 449 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: he's two five pounds smart. It is really really accurate. Okay, 450 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: can we coach him because you can't ask for this. 451 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 1: You watch him on tape and you just see the strong, 452 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: powerful life, so hard to bring down in the pocket. 453 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: I was so impressed. And then you get to see 454 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: him in person, you get to meet him, and he's 455 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: focused and he's determined, and he works hard and he 456 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: comes out here, he competes and you can see why 457 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: a guy like Justin Fields was able to play on 458 00:21:54,359 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: such a big stage. He wants those moments for real time. 459 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: It's been an awesome experience for me to be around him, 460 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 1: to be in the film room, to get up on 461 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: the whiteboard and talk through everything. He's already approaching things 462 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: like a true professional with his work. Ethic is maturity. 463 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: He just it was all business. I mean, he just 464 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: always wanted to continue to get better. But I think 465 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: he's one of the more competitively tough guys I've been around. 466 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: And I think Justin went through adversity, through the whole 467 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: Georgia thing getting here, changing schools. This is a tough, 468 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: tough guy who has been very dependable for us. He's 469 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: very competitive and a fighting fighting to the end. This 470 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: is a position where you have to be a tough 471 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: guy physically and mentally. He's a tough man's tough guy. 472 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: All the different things has happened in his life, He's 473 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: developed a brit and the resolve of a toughness that 474 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: I will stamp it right now. He'll be a wild 475 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: success in the NFL because of that. You know, the 476 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: team that gets Justsin is gonna really like he drinks 477 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 1: the table. I think the potentials for the route, He's 478 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: got a huge ceiling. It's gonna be fun to wine. Well. 479 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:11,479 Speaker 1: I think you got a little taste of it right there, 480 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: the Justin Fields three sixty where we take a complete 481 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: look at this star's rise from those closest to him. 482 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fantastic. You can check it out at 483 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: NFL dot Com, podcast, Spotify, Apple, your favorite podcast provider 484 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 1: that will be out Draft week. Alright, Buck, let's keep 485 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: the conversation going here on Justin Fields and and let's 486 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: find some fits for him. Where do you think of 487 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: the best fits for him at the next level? You know, DC, 488 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: I think there are three teams that really stand out 489 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: to me when I look at Justin Fields, San Francisco 490 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: forty Niners, the Denver Broncos, and in the New England Patriots. 491 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: When I think about the San Francisco forty Niners, I 492 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: just think about cal Shanahan having the opportunity to be 493 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: able to take the traditional stuff that he's done with 494 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: quarterbacks like Kirk Cousins and Matt Ryan and mixing some 495 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: of that old school stuff that he did with Robert 496 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: Griffin the third with the Washington football team, man, that 497 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: combination with the talent that they have on the outside 498 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: on the perimeter of the forty nine is well make 499 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: this offense down right scary. When you think about the Broncos, 500 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: I think Past Sherman would do a great job with 501 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: the young quarterback, put him in a situation where you 502 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: can succeed. And then with the New England Patriots making 503 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: all out all their commitment to the mobile quarterback Cam 504 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: Newton is there, you have Justin Fields to develop. They 505 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: have a mentor relationship already. I just think it would 506 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: provide the Patriots an opportunity to really ask some sizzle 507 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: to an offense. Then he's an upgrade. Well, can I 508 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,959 Speaker 1: make just a simple statement here, observation, If Justin Fields 509 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: doesn't fit what you do, how about you change what 510 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: you do? I mean, look this guy has got so 511 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: much ability, buck and can do so many different things 512 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: and can expand your playbook. To me, if you want 513 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: to be stuck in the stone age and say you 514 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: know we have to do this, this and this, well 515 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: you get what you deserve. To me, Justin Fields is 516 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: one of those guys. If you're a team and you 517 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: don't love your quarterback, you take Justin Fields and you 518 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: can change a little bit of what you do to 519 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: suit him. But man, to me, there's again, there's four 520 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in my mind that are there legit top ten 521 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: players in just about any draft. He's He's one of them. 522 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: However you stack them in there. Um. But I have 523 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: a hard time looking at the team and say, you 524 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: know what, it doesn't really fit there with Justin Fields. No. 525 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's something to that DJ, and 526 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: I believe if you closely look at what Josh Allen 527 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: has been able to do the first three years in 528 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,959 Speaker 1: the league with the Buffalo Bills, and how the Buffalo 529 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: Bills went all in on him, and how they tweaked 530 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: and refined their offense to make sure that they elevated 531 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: Josh Allen's talent, I believe the same blueprint will work 532 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: well with with Justin Fields. If you see where, you 533 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: see the talent that he brings to the table, build 534 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: the offense around his strengths, and slowly add pieces to 535 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: his game as he progresses. The offense would not only succeed, 536 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: but I think Justin Field will play at a superstar level. Yeah. 537 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: And and lastly, as we look at Justin I always 538 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 1: like to give out a little marketing advice to players. 539 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: Get yourself, uh, you know, get yourself a good cookie 540 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: and we go Mr Fields Cookies. We go, Mr Fields Cookies, 541 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: and off we go, and we are in business there. Anyways, 542 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: that's free of charge. That's free of charge. And we 543 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: can't wait to see where Justin lands and what his 544 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 1: NFL future holds. Okay, it's time. It's our favorite game, 545 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: it's your favorite game. It's Wheel of Prospects. Uh, let's 546 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: get it going. This week, we're gonna decide what position 547 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: we're focusing on. We're gonna find some teams, and then 548 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: Bucky and I are gonna come up with some names. So, uh, 549 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: you're ready to get going, Buck, I think you're I 550 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: think you're leading off today. Once we find out what 551 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,719 Speaker 1: position we have, we gotta give it a spin there 552 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 1: to figure out what we have. First, Let's let's get 553 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: that wheels spending. We'll find out what position we have. Oh, 554 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 1: that's not a surprise. That's not a surprised the Las 555 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders. So let's go with Ian Book for the Raiders' 556 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: let's spind the wheel. Let's take him in maybe the 557 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 1: fourth round, because I think that's a good value for him, 558 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: and we're thinking about the Raiders and Giant Bruton. Look, 559 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: if you check his history, he always loves these guys, 560 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: have a little bit of athleticism, doesn't necessarily have to 561 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: have the biggest on, but he like the gut sea type. 562 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 1: He fits. And when I look at Ian Book, I 563 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: think about Jeff Garcia and some of the other quarterbacks 564 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: that John bruten has head throughout this time. I think, 565 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: just be a nice fit and nice value in the 566 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: fourth round. I like it to that mobility and gretediness 567 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: fits with Gruden. All right, let me let me give 568 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: this wheel a spin. Here. See what team is up 569 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 1: next as we try and play matchmaker with quarterbacks. All right, 570 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: let's see who do we have here, Ah, Pittsburgh Steelers. 571 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,959 Speaker 1: All right, pick fifty five, let's go Davis Mills from Stanford. 572 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: I know only eleven starts with David Smells, but man, 573 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: there's a lot to dream on when you look at 574 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: just how pure his motion is. Just a beautiful, beautiful 575 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: stroke he has back there. You know the knee braces. 576 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: We know about the knee history, but he shed that 577 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: for the Pro day, was moving around really well. I 578 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: think he showed a little bit more athleticism to his game. So, uh, 579 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 1: there's a number one quarterback coming out of high school 580 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: for a reason. Buck, there's a lot to work with 581 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: their With Davis Mills, I like that fit with the Steelers. Yeah, 582 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: there's no doubt Davis Mills is going to have an 583 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: opportunity to play in this league, and he's probably gonna 584 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: be a guy who's picked a little higher than most 585 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: people imagine at the end of the year. But he 586 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: is fantastic when it comes to his athleticism. Here, let 587 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 1: me spend the wheel. I got one more spin. Let 588 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: me see if I can win something with this spin. 589 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: Here we go. Okay, here we go Denver Broncos. Dever Broncos, 590 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: and I'm going to match him up with Kellen Man 591 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: from Texas and and We just talked about Davis Mills 592 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: as a guy that can kind of rise up the charts. 593 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: How about Kellen mont also joining him? There, you're talking 594 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: about a guy with forty three starts. He has been 595 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: coached well on the Jimbo Fisher understands some of the 596 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: nuances of playing the position, and like some of the 597 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: other quarterback that we've seen have success, he offers a 598 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: little bit as an athletic playmaker who can get out 599 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: on the edge and make some things happen with his legs, 600 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: get in there and try and push Drew Lock. I 601 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: like it. All right, last one here, Let's get one 602 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: more spin. Who do we have? Give me one more team? 603 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: We are looking at the Patriots. We already took care 604 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: of the Patriots. We're gonna go. Uh, let's go Kyle 605 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: Trask here. To me, I think he makes a lot 606 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: of sense. Bucking and the size of the decision making, 607 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: the accuracy. Uh, those are traits that the England Patriots. 608 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: I think they had some success with a guy like that, 609 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: didn't they. Yeah. I think Dave had success previously. We 610 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: guys like that absolutely. Yeah, it's interesting to see. You 611 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: know what what the Patriots end up doing here. They're 612 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: in a position where they could again vault up for 613 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: a quarterback. Uh. Do you sit back and be patient 614 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: see what falls to you at fifteen or do you 615 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: maybe have your eyes on one of these middle round 616 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: guys or somebody outside the first round. I just think 617 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: Kyle Trask from a traditional standpoint, again, Josh McDaniels, I 618 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: think he would dig what he brings to the table. 619 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: I remember being around him for the first time in 620 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: the summer, you know, before school even starts. Shoot here, 621 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: I am a fifth year senior, played a lot of 622 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: football games for pretty good about it, and here walks 623 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: Terry Lance when I was six before go to twenty 624 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: pounds and as a freshman, it was fun to have 625 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: him because it was instinct competition. If you're like, man, 626 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: this guy can can really throw it. It's one thing 627 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: I think, and be careful with the football. Uh, And 628 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: there's another thing to valuate. He was pushing the ball 629 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: down the field and trying to be explosive, and so 630 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,479 Speaker 1: I think that just speaks to the way you prepared 631 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: during the week and um, you know obviously going out 632 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: there and executing the plan on on Saturday. I love 633 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: it when we can go pro on prospect and look 634 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: at these North Dakota State quarterbacks just herd Eastern stick. 635 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: They're talking about Trey Lance. You throw Carson Wentz into 636 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: the mix. How about those numbers for those three studs. 637 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: That is incredible. The five FCS titles there at the bottom. Uh, 638 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: not a shock to see that success. All right. We 639 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: had a chance to visit with Trey Lance Bucket and 640 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: I sat down with him to get his thoughts on 641 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: what's ahead. Uh, this is this has been a different 642 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: year for all of us. But I would love to 643 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: just go inside what your routine has looked like since 644 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: the pandemic hit and uh, trying to get yourself ready 645 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: for what is a unique one game college football season 646 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, it's been crazy. It seems like a 647 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: while ago, know, back and had having two practices of 648 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: spring ball and then getting sent home, you know, thinking 649 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: it's just gonna be an extra week of spring break maybe, um, 650 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: and then school being shut down and going back. Sure 651 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: it feels like forever ago. Um, but got a lot 652 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: of opportunities that I probably wouldn't have had to talk 653 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: and worked with a lot of different people that I 654 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: don't know if I would have, you know, during spring 655 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: ball during a regular year. Um, So try to make 656 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: the best out of it. Obviously, like you said, this 657 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: unique situation. UM, just thankful to have one game to 658 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: play with these seniors and some of the guys that 659 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: this will be their last last time in pats UM, 660 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: so they're super thankful for the opportunity. Obviously, it's it's 661 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: weird situation, it's crazy, unprecedented, all those things. But I'm 662 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: just excited for the opportunity, you know, trading and thinking 663 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: about that because so much going into this year was 664 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: writing on your performance. People were excited about you. People 665 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: were talking about you and your team and the way 666 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: that you guys have dominated that level. But from a 667 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: personal standpoint, how do you work on your game when 668 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: you're not really able to get around coaches and stuff 669 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: Like has everything been virtual for you or have you 670 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: been able to kind of bounce around and have people 671 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: do it? Like, what have you been able to do 672 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: to continue to sharpen your skills? Uh, you know, during 673 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: the middle kind of at the beginning of the pandemic, 674 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: obviously we're all kind of sent home off campus and 675 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: everything like that. UM, but you know, me being from Minnesota, 676 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: North Dakota was a lot more open, so we can 677 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: get into gym to get on fields a lot more 678 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: readily than than in Minnesota. So we had a solid 679 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: group of guys offensively that that came back during that 680 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: that summer period when we were before we were shut down, 681 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: UM or while we were shutting down, excuse me, but 682 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: June one, all the guys on campus were back. So 683 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: thankfully we were able to get testing and things like 684 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: that UM through our university and Athletic department. So super 685 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: thankful for everyone involved in that. But uh, these last 686 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: few weeks, I mean it's been pretty normal for us obviously, 687 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: you know, normal as normal as normal b I guess 688 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: during these times. But everyone's wearing masks, everyone's you know, 689 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: socialistancing things like that. But we've been back at practice, 690 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: coaches have been around, had meetings, you know. Obviously I've 691 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: had a few guys out, you know, with with symptoms 692 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: or with you know, positive test results. But our our 693 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: health department and flighting department at the whole has done 694 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: a really good job handling everything. Try I want to 695 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: go back to high school with you, um as somebody 696 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: that was a multiple sports star, but you played a 697 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: couple different positions on the football field. Going through your 698 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: recruiting process. Take us through that journey, what that was 699 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,959 Speaker 1: like and what some schools were recruiting you as other 700 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: than quarterback. Yes, I'd say probably UM. Going into my 701 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: sophomore year, I went to a lot of camps. I 702 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: went to Nebraska, I went to Minnesota a couple of times. UM, 703 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: North Dakota, Stay, South Dakota State, UM. More local. I guess. Uh. 704 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: For the most part, schools recruited me at quarterback. But 705 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: there are a few schools. UM. You know, if you 706 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,959 Speaker 1: had asked me going into my sophomore year, I told 707 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: you I was gonna play quarterback at the University of Minnesota. UM, 708 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: no doubt in my mind. Just to find some guys 709 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: from my high school that I played at Minnesota were 710 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: committed or sign things like that. UM. But then with 711 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: the coaching change and everything, coach Flight being hired, he 712 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: saw a different fit and he had his quarterback already 713 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: UM committed to him at that point, going into my 714 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: junior year, it would have been UM. So he was 715 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: very honest enough front of me that wanted to recruit me. 716 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: Yet at I played to play receiver and safety. Um, 717 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: and at that point I kind of knew I was 718 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 1: a quarterback and wanted to be a quarterback. UM, So 719 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: I just said thank you, thank you, thank you to him, 720 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: but super thankful for that opportunity. UM. A few other 721 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: schools in the Big Ten wanted me to play, you know, 722 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: outside of mind back and things like that, but I 723 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: kind of knew I was a quarterback at that point. 724 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: Committed to the North Dakota State pretty early in my 725 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: credit process in my junie during my junior year, I 726 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 1: kind of never looked back. That got to that point 727 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: where I was kind of like, what am I waiting for? 728 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: You know, my ultimate goal to play at the next level, 729 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: and obviously got Dakota State has been been sending guys 730 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: to the next level for a long time, especially at 731 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: the quarterback position. You know, talk about that because it 732 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: is a very unique situation North Dakota say this said. 733 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: I mean they've had a number of quarterbacks go we 734 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: think about Carson Wentz and Easton Stick. You will appear 735 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 1: to be the next one in line. What is it 736 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: about the culture of the setup that you guys have 737 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 1: there that prepares quarterbacks to go on in advance beyond 738 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: college the expectations are kind of at a new level. 739 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if I would have been expecting it. 740 00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: And also just the type of people that that we 741 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: recruited here, or I guess our coaching steft recruits here. Um, 742 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: we don't have really guys that are that you know, 743 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: you have to worry about. You know, we don't have 744 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: guys that you have to worry about making decisions, bad, 745 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: poor decisions off the field. We just don't don't have 746 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 1: those guys here. Um. And just talking to a lot 747 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,760 Speaker 1: of guys at other schools, you know, across the country, 748 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: it's it's a lot different here than than other places. Um. 749 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: You know, you get humbled your freshman year, regardless of 750 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: a position you play, you know, playing quarterback. I'm probably 751 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: more thankful that I don't have to deal with as 752 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: much of the the rookie you know what punishments and 753 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: things like that. Um. But just like I said, it's 754 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: just different. Uh. And meeting Eastern there, my recruiting process 755 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: was a huge part of why I'm here now, um, 756 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: and why I decided to come here so early. Just 757 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: the type of person he was, he was willing to 758 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: help me. Um, you know, my red shirt my red 759 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: shirt year, my first year on campus. You know, Easton 760 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: was the senior kind of knew he'd have the opportunity 761 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: to play at the next level. UM, and he didn't 762 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: have to worry about anything at that point. He definitely 763 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: didn't have to help me as much as he did. 764 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: You know, I was able to steal his notes and 765 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: follow him around and kind of be a shadow for 766 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: that first year. UM. And just just how willing he 767 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: was to answer my questions and and just just spend 768 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: time with me. I think that that says a lot 769 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: about him and a lot about the culture here. But 770 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: we're we're getting towards the end of baseball season right now, 771 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: and in baseball you have those hitting streaks, and people 772 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 1: are very conscious when they have kind of a long 773 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: hitting streak going. In football, you had a unique streak 774 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: where you made it through the entire season without throwing 775 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: an interception. At what point in time is this like 776 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: week three, week four, where you're like, hold up now, 777 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: like I have no no picks? Like you were you 778 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: thinking about that on a weekly basis, because I've never 779 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: seen it with a big time quarterback to make it 780 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: through the full season without an interception. What was a 781 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: what was the key to to you protecting the football? 782 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: And were you kind of thinking about that at all 783 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: as you're going through Honestly, didn't think about it. It 784 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: was one of those things where guys brought it up. 785 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: I guess guys didn't really bring it up, you know. 786 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 1: It was one of those things where everyone kind of 787 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: just knew an unwritten rule. We just don't talk about it. 788 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 1: So really, the only time I got asked about it 789 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: was in the media, you know, on our media, our 790 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: weekly media days was kind of the only time. And 791 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: I was, you know, at that point, I don't know 792 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: what to tell you. I'm gonna obviously a good thing. 793 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep not trying to throw interceptions. But it 794 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: wasn't right. I went into every game thinking, you know, gosh, 795 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do everything I candidates, not the interception. But 796 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: we do talk about it a lot, you know, the 797 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: ball is the program and things like that. You don't 798 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: want to end every dive with the kid, whether it's 799 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: a fun extra point or a field goal. Um, so 800 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,320 Speaker 1: those things help as well as our offensive staff is 801 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 1: a great job and ze No and the no center 802 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: of my backup quarterbacks helped me out of time on 803 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: a weekly basis. But just the preparation I think, like 804 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: I said that Easton taught me, Um weave part of it. 805 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 1: And the coaches, you know, offensive coordinator coach role, you know, 806 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: making child I feel comfortable with everything, and me being 807 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: able to sit an offensive staff meetings and things like that. 808 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 1: Just being on same page with everyone, whether it's our 809 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: receivers and our coaches. I think it's part of it, 810 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 1: you know, trading. When you look at the National Football League, 811 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: it seems like there's a bit of a revolution at 812 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: the quarterback position. You've seen guys like Lamar Jackson and 813 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,479 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, Russell Wilson, Kylin Murray, guys that are super 814 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: athletic making all of these plays. So when you're patting 815 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: your game, is there a player that you look to 816 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: pattern I and even mentioned Russell Wilson. Is there a 817 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 1: player that you kind of modeled your game after when 818 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 1: you think about it, I don't know if there's one guy. 819 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: Obviously been asked this a lot. I'd like to say 820 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: different pieces. Um had different opportunities to work with different 821 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: guys like Dwayne Askins, you know, DeShawn being able to 822 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: take little things from that game. Just one thing I 823 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 1: noticed specifically about when I threw with DeShawn, just how 824 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: it relaxed he is. So that's kind of just one thing. 825 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: I worked as much as I could. Um, you know 826 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: this offseason and this this whole COVID time, being able 827 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: to throw with him and Dwayne and just how smooth 828 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: and relax they both are. Obviously being able to throw 829 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: with Carson and meet him. Um, the preparation and things 830 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: like that, being able to watch watch football, watch quarterback class. 831 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: Think it's it's something that every quarterback will tell you that. 832 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm not gonna model my game after 833 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,959 Speaker 1: one guy, but I try to take as many pieces 834 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,839 Speaker 1: as I can from as many guys as I can train. 835 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 1: It's a leadership position that you play, UM, and I 836 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: would love to just get a little insight into what 837 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: your leadership style looks like. Is there a is there 838 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: a moment or a story you can share with us 839 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: that that kind of gives us a glimpse into what 840 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: your leadership style looks like. Uh, I'll tell you South 841 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:06,399 Speaker 1: Dakota State fourth and one, Um, we are shoot fourth 842 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: and one from probably our own twenty eight um yard line. 843 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: Fourth quarter. Uh, you know, we got stopped on third down. 844 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: It was fourth and one, and I'll tell you there's 845 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: no way I was coming off that field. As well 846 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: as our offensive line, we were gonna get that, you know, 847 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: regardless of the situation in the game. Um. You know, 848 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: we we kind of preach a fourth and one mentality 849 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: on every play. Um, you know, being efficient everything is 850 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: really important. But we just up front, especially you know, 851 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: offensive line, just the love they have for me and 852 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: the level after them is different here. But I think 853 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: I guess that that kind of situation, UM kind of 854 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 1: summed it up. You know, there's no way we're coming 855 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: off the field that the confidence I had in my teammates, 856 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 1: in the work they put in to get to that point, 857 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,399 Speaker 1: there was no way I was. I was not gonna 858 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,439 Speaker 1: get them the opportunity. So what happened? You gotta finish 859 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: the story here. What happened? Then Adam Cofield handed it 860 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: off Adam Cofield and took it about seventy five yards 861 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: to the house, ended up the game, kind of the 862 00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: game winning touchdown. It's a big time man. Um, that's great, 863 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,320 Speaker 1: So so trade. This is a uned set of circumstances. Obviously, 864 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: You've got a lot of attention this offseason. People are 865 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: talking about you. They're talking about you not only what 866 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,760 Speaker 1: you guys do at the level of what you potential 867 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,399 Speaker 1: could do at the next level. You have a game 868 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: coming up October three against Central Arkansas. Do you feel 869 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 1: any added pressure because this is kind of the only 870 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 1: game on your your regular season schedule? Like, how are 871 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,800 Speaker 1: you how do you even treat this game going into it? 872 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 1: Just just another game, just trying to go one and 873 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 1: just treating like the first game this season for US. Um. 874 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: You know, obviously it will be different not not having 875 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 1: a Week two in Week three, you know, and so on. Um, 876 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: But it's it's been a good opportunity for us and 877 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: to learn and obviously Central Arkansas having played you know, 878 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 1: two games already, will play again, you know this Saturday. Uh, 879 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 1: it's good for us. I think it's a great thing 880 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,479 Speaker 1: for us to be able to watch watch their current film. 881 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: You know, they're kind of still be banking on last 882 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 1: year's film. Uh, And we've you know, kind of grown 883 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: and evolved a lot. But mentally, I don't think it's 884 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: it's a whole lot different for me. Um. Obviously, you know, 885 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: the media and you've got. They're gonna talk about everything 886 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: you know that you need to talk about. UM. But 887 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: from for us, it's just a football game. I'm super 888 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: excited for the opportunity another game with our coaches, with 889 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 1: with the seniors. Like I said, just sending them out 890 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: the right way, it wouldn't have been right, you know 891 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:13,879 Speaker 1: for some of the guys that won't be come back 892 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: in the spring, UM for them to win a national 893 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 1: championship thinking they have a whole another year left and 894 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: never get to put the pads on again. So they're 895 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: super thankful for them that opportunity will be something there 896 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 1: ever forever. Last question from me, I know you gotta 897 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 1: you gotta run here and get ready for your work there. 898 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 1: But a lot of quarterbacks come from Texas and come 899 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 1: from California, and a lot of times you'll get picked, 900 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: you know, Josh Allen, somebody grew up in California, but 901 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,720 Speaker 1: then it gets drafted by the Buffalo Bill Sam Donald 902 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 1: goes to the Jetsi's from southern California. They always questioned, man, 903 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,479 Speaker 1: what they can these guys who do when they played 904 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: in cold weather games. I would imagine spending your time 905 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 1: in Minnesota and North Dakota. You have your fair share 906 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 1: of cold weather stories. Give me your best cold weather 907 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: game story that you got. Oh, I mean there's plenty, 908 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 1: you know. Uh, Thankfully I didn't. I didn't have any 909 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: too bad games. There were some there were some practices 910 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 1: where I was questioning a lot of things. Um, this year, 911 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 1: but my senior year, my last game my senior year, 912 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 1: actually it was a snowstorm. It was a blizzard back 913 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: in high school. So I would say that was probably 914 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 1: the worst, the coldest experience I've had in the game, uh, 915 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: being up here. You know, we have a kind of 916 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 1: a rule that your freshman year. Your your freshman year, 917 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 1: you you can't wear sleeves to practice at all. So 918 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: you're in short sleeves regardless of what the temperature is. 919 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 1: So that was probably one of the one of the 920 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: toughest things. You know, you're don'na have to practice, and 921 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: you already don't want to go out there because it's cold. Um, 922 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 1: And then I see East and Stick and all the 923 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,800 Speaker 1: other quarterbacks and in hoodies, uh and sweatpants, you know, 924 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: freezing my butt off. So I definitely had some of 925 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,359 Speaker 1: those experiences. But you know, I'm better for it now 926 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: that is phenomenal. Hey man, we've been very generous with 927 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 1: your time. We're gonna be catching up with you as 928 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: you go through the spring here and we'll be in 929 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: touch soon. Man, absolutely, you got so much. Well, Buck, 930 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,399 Speaker 1: what do you think, Trey Lance says, we head towards 931 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 1: the draft. Hey, look, but I think he's one of 932 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 1: the more talented prospects that we've seen. I think your comparison, 933 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 1: you made this comparison a while ago, the Donovan McNab 934 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 1: comparison is really valid because I think when you look 935 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 1: at the way Cherry Lances played, the way his size, 936 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,240 Speaker 1: his athleticism, his i Q very very similar to Supervibe 937 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: to Clayton Philadelphia for a long time, no doubt. All right, 938 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: this has been a fun episode today. I remember you 939 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 1: look right down below us. Here you can download the 940 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: Move the Sticks podcast. 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