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Speaker 2: Hey, Joky, I'm really sure it's dead. It's coming this way.

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Hey, I ghost said.

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Speaker 2: I gos Nandez. Please, hey boo, it's me Roz. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez. Oh how I have missed you.

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Speaker 2: But if you're new around here, hey, let me introduce myself.

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Speaker 2: You're probably saying, who is that shouting at me? What

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Speaker 2: am I listening to Ghosted?

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Speaker 1: Why?

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Speaker 2: What? Huh huh? Well, I'm Roz Hernandez. I am a comedian.

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Speaker 2: I'm based in Los Angeles. If you don't believe me,

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Speaker 2: go to my Instagram. It's at Roz Hernandez. You'll see

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Speaker 2: there's clip and everything. I'm transgender. I use she her pronouns.

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Speaker 2: I am a retired drag queen. I used to go

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Speaker 2: buy the name Roz dresfles the bargain bin beauty.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I'm a local entertainer and gal about town here in Hollywood,

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Speaker 2: And because of that, I know all kinds of characters

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Speaker 2: and I have them come here on this podcast. Because

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Speaker 2: one more fact about me, I am obsessed with the paranormal.

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Speaker 2: I grew up in a house that I believe was

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Speaker 2: haunted by the spirit of my dear loving grandmother, and

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Speaker 2: then you know, I've had several ghostly experiences over the years.

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Speaker 2: And then cut to twenty nineteen. I started doing this

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Speaker 2: very podcast because I wanted to dig a little deeper.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to just learn a little bit more about

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Speaker 2: this stuff and talk to more people that have all

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Speaker 2: It's been a journey for me, both in my personal

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Speaker 2: life and spiritually and my thoughts on all this stuff.

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Speaker 2: I started out not knowing a whole lot, but I

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Speaker 2: had a very open mind and now I consider myself

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Speaker 2: a paranormal enthusiast, investigator, researcher, all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: On this show, I talked to mainly comedians, but also

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Speaker 2: some of your favorite celebrities. I have on people that

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Speaker 2: dedicate their lives to the study of the paranormal, and

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Speaker 2: I even have on you the listeners. Now, recently I

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Speaker 2: took a three month hiatus from the show. I was

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Speaker 2: trapped in a TV like Carol Ann from the Poltergeist.

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Speaker 2: It was crazy, and then I was brought back to

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Speaker 2: the light by exactly right and honey, this feels like

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Speaker 2: the perfect home for what I do, and it is

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Speaker 2: now a haunted home over here. Now like my favorite murder,

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Speaker 2: this podcast gets deep. We talk about death, but ultimately

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Speaker 2: it is a comedy show for people that like things

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Speaker 2: a little bit weird. My approach to the paranormal might

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Speaker 2: not be the most orthodox or highly intellectual, but at

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Speaker 2: this point I consider what I'm doing here a research project. Okay,

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Speaker 2: this podcast is like one big public survey of people

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Speaker 2: and their beliefs and their experiences with the other side.

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Speaker 2: I like to talk to people from all walks of life.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I even on this show talk to straight cisgender men. Now,

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Speaker 2: as a paranormal investigator, I am a nosy bitch, Okay.

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Speaker 2: I like to get into dead people's business. I like

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Speaker 2: to laugh. I definitely like to view things through a

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Speaker 2: queer lens. I try to be unbiased the best that

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Speaker 2: I can. My main belief for this stuff is it

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Speaker 2: is called the unknown for a reason because it's unknown.

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Speaker 2: Nobody actually knows what any of this stuff is, and

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Speaker 2: that is the fun of it. I like to leave

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Speaker 2: it up to you, the listeners, to sort of make

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Speaker 2: up your own mind on any of this now here's

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Speaker 2: the thing. We all have one thing in common, and

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Speaker 2: that is that spoiler alert, we're all going to die

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Speaker 2: one day, so let's have a good time talking about

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Speaker 2: what happens when it's over. And if you don't believe

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Speaker 2: not have any agenda to turn anyone into a believer. Frankly,

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Speaker 2: I'm a little skeptical of it myself. I find it

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Speaker 2: very curious though, that's so many people have these experiences

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Speaker 2: that cannot be explained. It almost makes you think that

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Speaker 2: more you listen to this show. So I want to

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Speaker 2: hear from you. It is essential to me to have

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Speaker 2: an audience of people that are a part of this conversation.

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Speaker 2: So please send me your stories to my email address

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Speaker 2: which is ghosted by Raz at gmail dot com. That's

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Speaker 2: ghosted by Rooz at gmail dot com. Also, I have

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Speaker 2: ghosted by Raz and there you will find different visual

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Speaker 2: elements from each episode. If we talk about something we

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Speaker 2: I say, we get into this show join me every

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Speaker 2: single Monday. Here I'm exactly right. I'm gonna be talking

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Speaker 2: about poultergeist, possessions, extraterrestrials, cryptid creatures, synchronosities, psychic experiences, all

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Speaker 2: here we go, episode one of my new relaunch. I

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Speaker 2: believe who I am joined by today. This is major

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Speaker 2: for me. I have been a fan of hers for

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Speaker 2: which is an insane thing to say. Georgia Heartstark will

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Speaker 2: murder heard of it, Yeah, I thought so. So here

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Speaker 2: we go on with the show, you guys, I'm about

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Speaker 2: to say some words that I have wanted to say

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Speaker 2: icon of podcasting, Georgia Heartstark.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Oh my goodness, thank you. Hi. I'm so happy

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Speaker 1: to be here us.

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Speaker 2: Georgia. I have wanted to talk to you for so long. You,

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Speaker 2: me and Karen are such inspirations to me and what

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Speaker 2: I do. And I've always admired the way that you

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Speaker 2: guys keep things fun and funny but also like you're

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Speaker 2: dealing with stuff that is macau and serious. And do

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Speaker 2: you have any advice for me on that?

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Speaker 1: Whatever I say to someone when they say what kind

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Speaker 1: and I always have to say, but the comedy is

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Speaker 1: not about the cases. Comedy is that Karen and I exchange,

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Speaker 1: horribleness that happens in life, not about the victim, never

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Speaker 1: about the crime that's affected so many people and you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that that'll just come naturally because you're an empathetic.

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Speaker 2: Person, right, which I think people get it wrong a

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Speaker 1: You've got it good, You've got it good.

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Speaker 1: Well, you figured out the topic. Because when we do

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Speaker 2: And I'm definitely old timey, which makes me it makes

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Speaker 1: Must have been spirits.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So we moved to this new house and it's old.

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Speaker 2: But that's the thing. Sometimes sometimes the good stuff is

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Speaker 1: But I had to do it. Because there's music blasting

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Speaker 2: What was the music?

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Speaker 1: It was fucking the least scary music. Thank god it

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Speaker 2: Because that's a ghost song for sure.

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Speaker 1: For sure, it wasn't that. It was some I can't

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Speaker 1: it like on my phone, the app on my phone. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: On you, Oh my gosh. Okay, I don't like stuff

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Speaker 2: And so she believed it like you have that.

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00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 1: No. But I feel like maybe as a kid, I

434
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: was more susceptible to it. I feel like I'm good

435
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 1: at reading people's emotions and tapping into that, but not

436
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: you know, and I like to question reality a lot.

437
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: I think that's really fun. But I try so hard

438
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: to have a scientific mind. You know, but it's fun.

439
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: Like who cares. I don't believe in astrology, but I'll

440
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 1: still read my fucking horoscope.

441
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 2: Literally same. I don't know about anything. And I just

442
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 2: had a friend that was doing the whole like what

443
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 2: time were you born and like all of that, and

444
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 2: I'm like, here we go, let's do it. And I'm like, yeah,

445
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 2: tell me everything about me. It did say that I'm

446
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 2: not going to be famous, so I was like, I

447
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 2: truly didn't even ask for whatever, but I'm interested in

448
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 2: hearing about it.

449
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, And this will be a challenge for you

450
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 1: to prove astrology wrong. You know what I mean. I

451
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: always love a good challenge.

452
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 2: Exactly.

453
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: Well, that's all this is.

454
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 2: I check this shit every morning and like sometimes here's

455
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 2: the trick, don't be too specific with it, right, I'll

456
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 2: have some where I'll wake up and I'll be like,

457
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 2: today's the day you're going to fall in love. Oh

458
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 2: my god, it all changes today, so enjoy you're going

459
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 2: to meet that special someone. It's like, just say I'm

460
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 2: going to have a good day or something, and then

461
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 2: I can go.

462
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: Wow, it was right, But like, yeah, like vague, we

463
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: want vague, which I think is why it's so important

464
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 1: to find the website or the writer who gives the

465
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: astrology readings that you like, because especially.

466
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 2: Because it's free right now, these psychics that you pay

467
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 2: for it, like that's a different story. I'm like, tell

468
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 2: me what this person's going to look like, then I'm

469
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 2: going to fall in love with totally and all of that.

470
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: Have you been to a psychic.

471
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: I haven't been a psychic, but I've done my tarot

472
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: cards a couple times. I like it. I think it's

473
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: cool and exciting, but it's you know, always been so

474
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: vague that it's almost like I can't pinpoint any one

475
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: thing that I'm like supposed to do or should be

476
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: living my life in this way because of it. But

477
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 1: it is cool and I'll like, you know, it's always

478
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: positive when I do it, so yeah, that's good. Or

479
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's just like the suggestion of

480
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: like this card says you need to make a change

481
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: in your life or a big change is coming, and like,

482
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: you know, you know internally if that's actually true, Like

483
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: I think I went right before I was definitely going

484
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: to break up with someone, and it was like a

485
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: change is coming and it's a positive change and you

486
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: should do it, and I was like, it's about breaking

487
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: up with this person, and like kind of, you know,

488
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: caused me to do it sooner than if I hadn't

489
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:56,360
Speaker 1: had that. Probably.

490
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always like it when you're on the fence

491
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 2: and you're like, yeah, well, you know, this thing is

492
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 2: saying I should do it or not do it or whatever.

493
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 2: Like I think it's I think it's a fun little

494
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 2: confirmation totally.

495
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: I think that's the best time to go, is when

496
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: you're on the fence about something.

497
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 2: And that's the good thing about taror because I do

498
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 2: like taro and I think that is a nice thing

499
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 2: about it is that there's you can interpret it, like,

500
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 2: you know, different ways, and some people are really good

501
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 2: with their intuition interpreting it accurately or whatever. But I'm

502
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 2: into the tarot. I pull those things out when I'm

503
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 2: like what should I do?

504
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: And sure stuff, that's great. I love that. I kind

505
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: of want to do that too, But I don't know

506
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: how to read them.

507
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 2: No, I don't either. I have no clue, but I

508
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 2: just google each card.

509
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 1: You like, what, all right, Yeah, I could do that.

510
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: Or I also live in La so I've got four

511
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 2: thousand people I can call too, And sometimes I will

512
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 2: call eight different people and go, Okay, this is what

513
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 2: I got, and they're going to so one goes that's ooh,

514
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 2: that's not good, and then the next one, oh, my gosh,

515
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 2: that's amazing. So it's like, who.

516
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: Knows you got a vibe with your reader for sure? Yeah,

517
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: if it's like I went to one once and it

518
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: was like some you know, twenty one year old girl

519
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: who like, bless her heart, But it's like I want

520
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 1: someone like who's been around reading cards for a lot,

521
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: has a lot of experience with it and has seen

522
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: it all that's telling me what to do with my life.

523
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to have a ring on all ten

524
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 2: fingers for me to take you seriously when it comes

525
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 2: to that kind of a thing.

526
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: The third time that the ghosty thing happened was a

527
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: similar experience to that person or that spirit. I'll call it,

528
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, popping up apparition, let's

529
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: call it that. Okay, I was lying in bed and

530
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: I saw an apparition of a spirit like on the ceiling,

531
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: like pointing at me. Just it's like a split second,

532
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: but it's like it was there. It was definitely there.

533
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: It wasn't just my imagination, because I have a wild

534
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: imagination and that doesn't fucking happen ever.

535
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 2: Now, hang out. So you're on the top of the

536
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 2: top floor of a bunk bed.

537
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: This is a regular bed I was at camp and yeah.

538
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: Oh so this isn't even associated with the pop up one. Okay, no, yeah,

539
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: so could you tell what this person or whatever looked

540
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: like were there features?

541
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was an older man who almost had like

542
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: a like he was like a coach, like he was

543
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: the coach of a sports team vibe, you know. And

544
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: he was pointing at me, and he looked very angry.

545
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 2: Heart start get in the hearts.

546
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means or what it was,

547
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: but it definitely scared me because he looked so angry.

548
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: Like the one that popped up at my bunk bed

549
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: seemed like there was like fun, happy vibes going on there,

550
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: and it just kind of scared me. But this was

551
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: like this angry God. I feel like, this is why

552
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: I don't talk about this. I feel like I sound loopy.

553
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: Not here, not here, okay, save space.

554
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: That's what I love so much about this is that, Yeah,

555
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 2: there's an audience of people that are like, yeah, I'm

556
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 2: on board, Like we're not just like saying this out

557
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 2: in the air. I think sometimes yeah, you can say

558
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 2: this stuff and people are like oking, never dogging to

559
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 2: Georgia again.

560
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: Right, which is why I always say, like, oh, but

561
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,959
Speaker 1: I don't believe in ghosts anymore. But it's like, well,

562
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: I would love it if someone listening were like interpret

563
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: what happened and like acknowledge or somehow like affirm that

564
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: what I saw was like a you know, some kind

565
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: of little trip into the you know, supernatural world. But

566
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I want to believe it so bad,

567
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: but I you know, my brain can't allow that.

568
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: It's possible that since it is scary, you turned your

569
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 2: you know self off to that, And like I'm I

570
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: am scared of this stuff, which is so dumb, because well,

571
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: I no, it's human. It makes sense. Yeah yeah, yeah,

572
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: but considering the fact that my job is talking about

573
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 2: these things, you would think that I wouldn't be so

574
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: damn scared. But I really think that, Like sometimes when

575
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 2: I go like ghost hunting with people or ghost stay

576
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: at a haunted you know, hotel or whatever, oh my god,

577
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, I want stuff to happen, but I'm

578
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: secretly like, please, don't.

579
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,959
Speaker 1: Please know has something ever has Has there ever been

580
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: a moment where like it it pushed you to like

581
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: this is real? And you know no one could talk

582
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: me out of this being real.

583
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 2: Yes, I've got a list that has grown, and you know,

584
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 2: I took off a couple of months of this podcast

585
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: and I'm going to talk about it when the time

586
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 2: is right. But I have had multiple experiences that I

587
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,239
Speaker 2: was not the only witness for that I do not

588
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: have any explanation for. And that is what we call foreshadowing.

589
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: I'll talk about it later.

590
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: I love it. That's what you want is for someone

591
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: else to have experienced it as well. It's like so

592
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: annoying when you're alone. I know my husband, like he

593
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: and some friends have this story of seeing a UFO,

594
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: you know, not saying it was an alien, just this

595
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: unidentified flying object hovering and they all fucking saw it.

596
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: And you know that way, you can't talk yourself out

597
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: of it. You're not bananas. And it wasn't a drone.

598
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: This is before drones.

599
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 2: So I love how you broke it down with it

600
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: was unidentified, which I'll be honest with you, and this

601
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 2: entire time i've been talking to you, I've just been

602
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: revealing how little I know about anything. I don't know

603
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: anything about technology, I don't know anything about airplanes. I

604
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: don't know anything about any of that. So I can't

605
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: identify half the damn shit up there. So technically most

606
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: of these things are not identifiable to me.

607
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: Right, But you don't do you? Do you believe in

608
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: aliens and spaceships? And do you think they've visited our planet?

609
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: Yes? I do? Here, Okay, My stance overall on all

610
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 2: of this stuff is why not? Why not everything? Sure,

611
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 2: anything is possible, But I am very convinced when I

612
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: look into that kind of stuff that, yeah, of course

613
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: there's other you know, people or life or whatever. It's

614
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 2: not just us, right, And I do think that they

615
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: are so much smarter than us, and that they come

616
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 2: in peace because they could probably make us just disappear instantly.

617
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: And I think that we are like, honestly the bad

618
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: neighborhood of the galaxy, and definitely they probably want to

619
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 2: help us, but they're like, you know what, it's we're good,

620
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 2: They'll they'll.

621
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: Just kill us all. Stay away from those earthers.

622
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like sometimes for whatever reason, they come

623
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: over here and check in on us. They laugh at us.

624
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: They I have always had a theory that it's teenage

625
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,959
Speaker 2: aliens taking their parents' UFO to go to the bad

626
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 2: part of town.

627
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: They come down here to go to our raves, and

628
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: then exactly that's it. I love that that, or like

629
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: that reality is a simulation. Those are things I can

630
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: totally get behind. Oo, I think that's a fine.

631
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that starts to trip me out.

632
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: I'm really into like, like Reddit has like blip in

633
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: the Matrix, you know, page where everyone just tells their

634
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 1: stories of their their blips, things that happened or things

635
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: they saw that like doesn't make sense, you know, like

636
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: more than coincidences.

637
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

638
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: I fucking love that shit.

639
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 2: Have you had anything like that ever happened to you?

640
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: I mean other than like thinking about someone and they call.

641
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: Like my sister and I have that obviously, like really

642
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: strong bond of like thinking and feeling the same things.

643
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: I have a friend that just we are so in sync,

644
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: my friend Kate, when we're so in sync with reaching

645
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: out to each other and being on this you know,

646
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: in the same place, or worrying about each other when

647
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: something you intuitively sent something's going on with them. So

648
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: that stuff is I think really interesting to me. But

649
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: I've never had anything like, you know, I accidentally stepped

650
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: through the matrix and time traveled for five seconds, you

651
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: know that kind of thing. But I love that.

652
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 2: See you are psychic, I really, I don't know. I mean,

653
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: I think we all are. I think it's definitely a spectrum.

654
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: I think so too.

655
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I always think about like people that fall

656
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 2: in love, or you and Karen coming together and creating

657
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: you have, like stuff like that is something.

658
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And it's like again I'm trying to I'm

659
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: so skeptical all the time that it's like, I don't

660
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 1: believe in fate, But there are those things that happen

661
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: in your life that you know that have more meaning

662
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: than other experiences. And I think a lot about like

663
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: what if I hadn't you know, gone to this party

664
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: where I met my husband, or yeah, what if I

665
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: hadn't like made this one decision and hadn't met Karen,

666
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: or just these little things that I think about all

667
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: the time.

668
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: Because you don't believe in fate, Oh please, I know,

669
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: I know, I know the type of person you are

670
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: with this kind of stuff which is like secretly do

671
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 2: you believe in it but want to like not just yeah,

672
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: don't give.

673
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: It to your energy totally, Like I want some healthy

674
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: skepticism to go with my unhealthy obsession.

675
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. So did you have any other experiences

676
00:36:58,400 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 2: as a kid?

677
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 1: I mean other than that, there's like a couple of

678
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: little things that I feel like I can splain explain

679
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: away with like the light trick of the light or

680
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: something going on, but then it just kind of stopped

681
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: happening and went away.

682
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: Did you ever look up if that summer camp has

683
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: like the legend of Coach Johnson.

684
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: I'll find out. I should look it up. I mean

685
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: it was a Jewish camp, so it'd probably just be

686
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: like an angry grandfather, you know.

687
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: But he looked like a coach.

688
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: But he looked like a coach.

689
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: No whistle around his neck or anything that vibe.

690
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like in my childhood brain it was like coach.

691
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: I can you know identify this person as a seemingly

692
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: coach esque Yeah.

693
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 2: That's so interesting, okay. And it's also like, why did

694
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: he appear to you?

695
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: Like, well, maybe it was just an anxiety I was

696
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: having and it was my imagination.

697
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 2: You know, that's not fun though it's not that's not

698
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 2: a good way to I just want to believe that everything, like.

699
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: You know, I do, you know, I believe it.

700
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: I'm also like, why why can some ghosts float? Like

701
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 2: how does that happen?

702
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: The floating thing is definitely like something we've assigned ghosts

703
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: for sure, And why are they like always old timey not?

704
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you're right, I know I've seen people I've

705
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: talked about those over the years, and people love to

706
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 2: send me memes of other people saying this kind of

707
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: a thing too, with like why don't you ever see

708
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 2: like a juicy Cature ghost from the two thousands?

709
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know, maybe you don't get

710
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 1: your spiritual wings for fifty years or something like that.

711
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 1: You know, you don't get it, like you're not allowed

712
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 1: to haunt. You have to like go through some training

713
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: that could be so by the time it had like,

714
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: they'll be juicy coteur ghosts, but it won't be until

715
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: like twenty sixty.

716
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: Right when it becomes more of like a ooh, it

717
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: was so spooky. She had juicykature.

718
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 1: The old timy juicy coots were sweatpants.

719
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 2: On yeah, which like yeah, because now it's like ghosts

720
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 2: are always like oh, they had like a lace creepy

721
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 2: lace dress.

722
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: Right, not like she had butterfly clips in her hair.

723
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 2: She had like the thong coming up like the whale

724
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: tail or.

725
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: She had a belly button ring with a jewel at

726
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: the end of it. It was so creepy.

727
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:31,439
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Well, speaking of fashion and ghosts, can

728
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 2: I show you a haunted eBay doll?

729
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 1: A fuckingly please?

730
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 2: Do you know about this phenomenon?

731
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: No? Tell me?

732
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: Okay, So people love to go to eBay dot com.

733
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 2: They also do it on Etsy honestly anywhere Craig's List.

734
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 2: They love to sell their items, particularly dolls that they

735
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:59,479
Speaker 2: claim are haunted, wow or psychic. They always have these

736
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: stories attached to them. Sometimes the stories really give you

737
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: the details about who the ghosts inside of this doll is.

738
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: That's cool. Like, I mean, as someone who goes to

739
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: a State Sales, I have seen some fucking creepy dolls

740
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: and artifacts from people's lives that could absolutely be haunted.

741
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to keep my eye out for you.

742
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 2: Next to States sale I goes to because I'm on

743
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: all those mailing lists.

744
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love it.

745
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 2: I show up. I love a state sales WA so much,

746
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 2: and those can be creepy, you know. I always like

747
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 2: to remind myself that it doesn't always mean that a

748
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: person has died. Sometimes they're downsizing, sometimes whatever. But I've

749
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 2: been to some before where it's like, oh, there was

750
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 2: a person living here and now they're not, and.

751
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: Their skin cells are everywhere. Ew I do I So

752
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: I do love a state sales. I love all things

753
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: like vintage andal timy, like I'm obsessed with that stuff.

754
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: When I go to a state sales, I try to

755
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: be very like polite about the fact that I'm going

756
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 1: through someone's entire life and I have felt really sad

757
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: about it before, and I'm just like picking things from

758
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: someone's existence that meant something to them. So I try.

759
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: I'm very picky with what I buy because I want

760
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: it to mean something to me too. I don't want

761
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: to get rid of it in two years when it's

762
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: not my style anymore or whatever. So like, the things

763
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: I own are probably imbued with some of that person's

764
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: history and life. Yeah maybe spirituality, I don't know, So

765
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: maybe items can be like haunted in a way.

766
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 2: No, let me ask you those speakers that played out

767
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: in John, were those brand.

768
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: New that was a brand new new technology. I mean,

769
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: maybe it's true they might have been returned mid twenty

770
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: mid like twenty teens, so maybe somebody I.

771
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: Have bought them died when they fell on top of them,

772
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: and then then their relatives returned it because they had

773
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 2: the still.

774
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: Right while listening to Elton John, I did take my

775
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: mom do an a state sale went which was a huge

776
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: mistake because she went up to the cellar and asked

777
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,959
Speaker 1: about the person who had lived there and came back

778
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: and told me this whole sad story about how that

779
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 1: person had died. And I was like, Mom, we're you're

780
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: not supposed to know this. You're supposed to suspend your

781
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: disbelief a little bit and be like, this person lived

782
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: a beautiful, happy, long life and you know, died of

783
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: old age, and the stuff they left behind their children

784
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: had picked through it to take something meaningful to them,

785
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: So this is okay. And I just told her to

786
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: never fucking do that again, because it was just ruined

787
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: the whole thing for me and the one thing I bought.

788
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: I always thought of this guy, this poor guy, because

789
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: I knew what happened. I won't say it's terrible, but

790
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: I knew what happened to him. So that's it.

791
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's usually best to not know. Just

792
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: ignore that. Ignore if there's crime scene tape on the

793
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 2: ground of an outline of just walk over it.

794
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 1: There was one estate so they went to where someone

795
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: had lived there for a very long time. You can

796
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 1: tell someone old had lived there. And on the back

797
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: of their like closet door, they had started taking notes

798
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: of the dates they had started feeling their symptoms. Oh wow,

799
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: so headaches start. This happened headache today fell at this,

800
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: you know, and it was so eerie. Am I finding

801
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: to me this is like ghost adjacent or is this

802
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: just no?

803
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: It is? But also living here in La sometimes there

804
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 2: will be the most interesting like former porn director from

805
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: that that hasn't bought a new item since the seventies. Yeah,

806
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 2: it's like that kind of stuff is fun. Alex Trebek

807
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 2: had like that big giant sale.

808
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 1: And so I find that people who are Jewish have

809
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,959
Speaker 1: a lot of goods. I'm Jewish, so like we tend

810
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: to save everything. So if it's an old Jewish person,

811
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: you're gonna find a lot of good stuff antiques an

812
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: cheek Okay, sorry, go on about the doll.

813
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 2: Okay, it's time for a segment I like to call

814
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 2: the Dolls are Living Today We're going to be talking

815
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: about Rita. And Rita currently has zero bids on her.

816
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 2: She is starting out at fifty three dollars for the bidding. Okay,

817
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 2: reasonable sixty nine dollars if you wanted to buy her now,

818
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 2: everybody welcome Rita.

819
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 1: Oh my god, wow, she looks like like Kristen Wiggs

820
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: character in FNL when she has the tiny hands.

821
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is oh wow.

822
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that wonky eyes doing it.

823
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: She does have yeah, one eye open like that Metallica song,

824
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 2: which is a great touch. I think having having no

825
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 2: eyes is probably the best because you know, I always say,

826
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: this is about marketing here, you're trying to sell a

827
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 2: spooky doll, so totally. I'm always like, you either remove

828
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 2: the eyes or glue one shut, you know. Yeah, yeah,

829
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 2: she does have one eye open. She's got those drawn

830
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 2: on eyebrows, which many of us have had a phase

831
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: where we draw our eyebrows on.

832
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. I had those. I had those in the late

833
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: nineties for sure.

834
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, she definitely plucked away in the nineties and

835
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 2: now draws them on a little high And then of

836
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: course she's got on lace, which is very important for

837
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:45,919
Speaker 2: a haunted doll.

838
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: So what's her story.

839
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 2: Well, this one in particular doesn't have a huge backstory

840
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 2: as much as it tells you about Rita. So now

841
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: let's keep in mind that the way that the way

842
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: they play this on eBay is that there's a spirit

843
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 2: inside of this vessel. It's not necessarily the doll that

844
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 2: we're talking about, so we're talking more so about the

845
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 2: ghost that comes with it. Though there is always a

846
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 2: disclaimer that says, you know, legally we are not allowed

847
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 2: to sell intangible items or you know, so oh my god, Yeah,

848
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 2: they can't sell you a ghost. But essentially that's what

849
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: they're doing here. So it says, meet ten year old Rita.

850
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 2: I love that name. She has attached herself to this

851
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 2: doll vessel. She is a big, beautiful, lifelike doll vessel

852
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: that quote wants a lot of attention. Same. She is

853
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 2: a rare paranormal doll that is twenty one inches tall.

854
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 2: She has a music box center and it plays as

855
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: it plays, her head in her arm, arms move, and

856
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: her eyes open. And close. Okay, So they just caught

857
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 2: her mid eyes open. Miss, So she does you know,

858
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: her arms move and her eyes open? Okay, good.

859
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: First, I mean, nothing is creepier than a music playing

860
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: movable doll because it's gonna start playing and moving in

861
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: the middle of a fucking night without especially if it's possessed.

862
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 2: You would hope. I mean, if you're gonna be paying

863
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: for fifty three dollars, I wanna be scared out of

864
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 2: my fucking mind. It says lots of bumps in the

865
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 2: night with this one. She loves the paranormal and was

866
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 2: very active almost immediately. She can be a great companion.

867
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 2: She is so much fun to work with. To work with,

868
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 2: I guess I mean they mean like to investigate or whenever.

869
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 2: I don't think she's a coworker. You can just feel

870
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 2: the presence and warmth flowing from her. She likes to

871
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: flicker the lights on and off, and she likes playing

872
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 2: with the voice spirit box, which is like a paranormal

873
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 2: investigation device.

874
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah.

875
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 2: She has been tested personally by me with three different

876
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 2: methods and she's very active. Okay, So would you for fifty.

877
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: Three dollars purchase Rita listen. Having grown up, having way

878
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: too young of an age, watched Chucky Child's way. There's

879
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: no fucking way like I've been. I've been to many

880
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: estate sales and never bought a doll. I mean not

881
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 1: because it's also not my style. But Chucky, man, that

882
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: thing scared the ever loving shit at me as like

883
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: an eight year old.

884
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 2: So no, but see, Chucky's a little bit unfair because

885
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: that is an actual serial killer inside of a doll.

886
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 2: And so yes, of course it's terrifying. But like you know,

887
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: if you think about toy story, those are just like

888
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 2: nice dolls come alive.

889
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 1: That's true, But how do you know what you've got?

890
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: There's something sinister about a doll?

891
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 2: Well, this person tested three different methods, and yeah, they

892
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 2: can tell you that she is very sweet.

893
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 1: But maybe Rita's just looking for the right person to haunt,

894
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: and so she's like, I feel like it's there's some

895
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 1: sinister there's some sinister stuff going on underneath this facade

896
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: of lace and eye movement.

897
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 2: Now, okay, being the level of skepticism that you're at,

898
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 2: if somebody was to be like, all right, Georgia, just

899
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 2: one week with this doll next to your bad would you.

900
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 2: So you're the type of person that would assume, like no,

901
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 2: that I'm not taking that chance.

902
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: I would do it to prove to myself that everything

903
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: is fine.

904
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 2: Okay, put your address in the chat, and we're going

905
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: to make this happen.

906
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: Well, someone did once send us this like vintage like

907
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty or seventies clown doll that was like or

908
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: maybe they gave it to us at a show, but

909
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: it was like like a like a raggedy ann type

910
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: of doll that was a clown and on one side

911
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: had a happy face and when you turn the clown over,

912
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: the other side was like the most devastatingly sad, terrifying

913
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: face you've ever seen. So it was like happy sad clown.

914
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: And we just like left it at the office and

915
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: refused to keep it. And I think we eventually like

916
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: sent it to a listener, so she wanted it because

917
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 1: neither of us would take it home. None of us would.

918
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: It was terrifying. So I guess in some level I do,

919
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't have taken it home.

920
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, That's where I'm at with a lot of things,

921
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: like a lot of these on eBay. I'm like girl,

922
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 2: first of all the people that sell stuff on here,

923
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 2: don't assume that there's somebody like me that checks these

924
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 2: listings every day and keeps track of who's going for what.

925
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 2: And I know, I know the market, honey, and they

926
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: sometimes the same seller will copy and paste the same

927
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 2: story on a different like this is not real most

928
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: of it. That being said, what I want one of

929
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 2: these in my house? No? Absolutely not.

930
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: No. The bedside table. I just think I'd have to

931
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: pass for sure.

932
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 2: Okay, So that's understandable.

933
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: That tells you everything you need to know about my beliefs.

934
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,720
Speaker 2: I guess well that'll wrap up that part of the show.

935
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 2: Now here's another thing I like to do with all

936
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 2: my guests. I like to play my guests ghost voices.

937
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 2: Sound good to you, It's time for EVP or ev plicse.

938
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 2: Have you ever heard the term EVP m mmmm? It

939
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 2: stands for electronic voice phenomenon, which, okay, basically what they

940
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 2: call anytime a ghost is recorded on audio. It could

941
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 2: be from any kind of recording device really, and people,

942
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 2: particularly ghost hunters sometimes just you know, people will capture

943
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 2: one and they put them up on eBay, TikTok wherever

944
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 2: on the internet, and I like to find a few.

945
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 2: We'll listen to them together, and I want you to

946
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 2: guess exactly what the ghost hunter believes it is saying.

947
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: Okay.

948
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: So this first one comes from TikTok, which is a

949
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 2: new thing for me. Actually, this is the first time

950
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 2: I've ever played one from TikTok. This is from somebody

951
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 2: named lustfull X which and it was recorded at the

952
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 2: Sally House which is in Atchison, Kansas. And this is

953
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 2: a place that I will need to do a deep

954
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 2: dive on in the future because it is like a

955
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 2: very very well known haunted house that people are constantly

956
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 2: going to investigate. It's been on a lot of TV

957
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 2: shows famously, it was on the show in the nineties

958
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 2: called Sightings where they covered the family that lived there

959
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 2: and there's some stuff going on. So this was recorded

960
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 2: in the nursery, and I want you to tell me

961
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 2: what you hear this ghost saying okay? Ew say it?

962
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: Do it again. It sounds like backwards. It's something backwards,

963
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 1: isn't it. Okay?

964
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 2: I'm playing on.

965
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: Me.

966
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,240
Speaker 2: Don't want a mouth.

967
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: I think it's something backwards, or it's e T phone home.

968
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: I kind of get phone home.

969
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 2: Whatever it is, it does not. It's not a cute voice.

970
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: No, that's a demon, Yes.

971
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 2: A demon.

972
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: Or like.

973
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 2: Someone that hangs out in a casino all day, like

974
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 2: anyway you do some Okay, I mean that's I don't know.

975
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: I always expect stuff like that to be like quieter

976
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: and more in the background, so they.

977
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 2: Can be all different kinds. I've heard, really the whole gamut.

978
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 2: But okay, I'm going to give you some options because

979
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 2: they did not think that it was easy phone home.

980
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 2: Here's some options. One of these is the correct answer

981
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 2: of what they believe it said. So is it? Let

982
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 2: me play it one more time so you can.

983
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: Hear it all right?

984
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 2: Is it a?

985
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: Ew?

986
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 2: What's in your mouth? B? We want you alone? See

987
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 2: me want you to know?

988
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: Or d.

989
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,720
Speaker 2: Neil Patrick Harris.

990
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: We want you alone?

991
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what they believe it said. B. I hear

992
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 2: them we want you alone. Ew, I don't want that's

993
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 2: so gravy something like that. Do you believe it's real?

994
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: No, but it's some TikTok, George, I don't know. I'm

995
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 1: not saying I believe in the phenomenon. That to me

996
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: doesn't sound well. You haven't heard the second one I

997
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 1: have for you. Oh, fuck. Okay.

998
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 2: This one is from a YouTube channel called Sacred Spirits,

999
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 2: and it doesn't really tell me much about the location.

1000
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 2: It just says that Tina was doing a crossover session,

1001
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: which I assume is like, whoever Tina is was helping

1002
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 2: a ghost crossover, I guess. And that's when they heard

1003
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 2: this voice. Okay, Now there is some crumbling going on.

1004
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 2: What okay, but there's a voice within the crumbling.

1005
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: Okay, hmm, see, as soon as you tell me what

1006
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: you think they think it's I'll hear it, you know

1007
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: what I mean?

1008
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 2: Well totally, but it's like they don't know what they

1009
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 2: don't have options, so they just kind of pull something

1010
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 2: out of the air too.

1011
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I don't hear the voice, and I think

1012
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: I will once I know it. It's saying I hear's

1013
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 1: something breathy.

1014
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it is. It's the breathiness. So okay,

1015
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 2: is it a Hey, that's my husband? B Okay, that's enough,

1016
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 2: then c ain't that something? Or D get a bag

1017
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 2: of sun chips.

1018
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with B.

1019
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 2: You're gonna go with b. K that's enough? Then?

1020
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's too long.

1021
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 2: They believe it's c Ain't that something.

1022
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: Okay, now we know that.

1023
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 2: Let's listen.

1024
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I don't know, kind of I don't hear that,

1025
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: but I do that one, Tommy almost seems more believable

1026
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: for some reason because it's like less clear.

1027
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 2: Hey, that is something. Yeah, totally. Well, I want to

1028
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 2: do one more thing with you. I mean I want

1029
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 2: to do a million things. I want to go to

1030
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 2: State sales shopping with you. Yeah, but We're going to

1031
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 2: do a little a little thing here where I'm just

1032
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 2: gonna list off a bunch of phenomena. This would be

1033
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,959
Speaker 2: really interesting with you, and I just want to hear

1034
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 2: if you have any thoughts on it. Maybe it'll trigger

1035
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 2: a memory of a story. I don't know, whatever, whatever

1036
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 2: comes up. I'm just curious where you're at on this stuff.

1037
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 2: What about bigfoot? Give it to me.

1038
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: Specifically. No, but I think that there's probably a lot

1039
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: of creatures that we don't totally know in these forests

1040
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: and stuff.

1041
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 2: But no, right, well, whatever it is. If that's the case,

1042
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 2: there's never been one better at hiding.

1043
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: That's true.

1044
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: That's true because that whoever that is, they do not

1045
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 2: want anyone finding them studying them. Yeah, okay, yeah, So

1046
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 2: along that line, Lockedness Monster, that would you put the

1047
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 2: same same thoughts on all of those kinds of things.

1048
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: Ocean and lakes and waters to me are much creepier

1049
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: because you know there's we can't explore the depths of

1050
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: those things. So I would believe in Luckness Monster before

1051
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: Bigfoot for sure. And you know, Karen would kill me

1052
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: if I said I don't believe in the Luckness Monster

1053
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: because she loves them. So yeah, I could see there

1054
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: being some large creatures down there that we don't know about.

1055
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 2: What about demons? Do you believe in that idea of

1056
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 2: a dino?

1057
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: Now? No, I'm Jewish again, we don't have that.

1058
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 2: What about past lives?

1059
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: Now, that's something I totally want to believe in for sure.

1060
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: And when little kids, like I said, when they have

1061
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: these memoryes at a young age of incidents and details

1062
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: that they should have no knowledge about because their children

1063
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: and haven't experienced those things, Like I just did a

1064
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 1: story about a kid who had all of these details

1065
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:16,439
Speaker 1: about being a World War two fighter pilot that ended

1066
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 1: up being correct, and there's no reason for him to

1067
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: have known any of that stuff. And I think kids

1068
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: are more open to those things because they don't know

1069
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: it's impossible. No one's told them yet that that doesn't happen,

1070
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: it's not true. So yeah, I think it's definitely a possibility.

1071
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 2: Do you think about what your past lives could have been?

1072
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: No, probably pretty typical. But I do think the people

1073
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 1: who are in your life now. You know that people

1074
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: say like the people in your life now were in

1075
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: your life in a different way in your past lives,

1076
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: So you know, your mother could have been your daughter,

1077
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: like that sort of thing. I do think there's like

1078
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: this connection to the people you you hold deer in

1079
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: this lifetime.

1080
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, Okay. What about curses?

1081
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: I mean that would suck if they're real.

1082
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 2: But sometimes you hear about these like famous this family's

1083
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 2: cursed or this you know whatever.

1084
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: Right this baseball team is curse and stuff. I mean,

1085
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Speaker 1: I think it's all a state of mind, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, if you think you're cursed and

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Speaker 1: the only bad things happen to you, then you're only

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Speaker 1: going to notice the bad things that happen to you,

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Speaker 1: or you're going to make decisions subconsciously that create those

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Speaker 1: bad things or those unlucky things. I think I'm a

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Speaker 1: pretty lucky person in general, but I you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's because of fate or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: I think things happen and I just keep tripping upwards

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Speaker 1: and I'm grateful for that, you know. So I think

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Speaker 1: that that helps to be grateful and then the curse

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Speaker 1: won't happen because you're being you know, you're looking at

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Speaker 1: the beautiful things in life instead of the negative stuff.

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Speaker 2: Ah, wasn't this a beautiful experience?

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Speaker 1: Yes, this was the opposite of a curse. This was

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Speaker 1: a blessing.

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Speaker 2: I was, Oh my gosh, thanks for doing this.

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Speaker 1: It was so good. To be honest, I'm so fucking

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Speaker 1: happy you're on Exactly Right now. You fit in so perfectly.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just huge, and I'm thrilled.

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Speaker 2: Well, and I have so much to say about my

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Speaker 2: experience so far, which has been truly a dream with

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Speaker 2: exactly Right and I'm so glad. I mean, I know

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Speaker 2: that you and Karen know how great this network is,

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Speaker 2: but just as someone that's new here, I just want

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Speaker 2: you guys to not like you're doing a great job.

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Speaker 2: The people that I'm working with here are phenomenal and

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Speaker 2: I feel like a star. Everyone's treating me like a star.

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Speaker 1: Everyone is so excited about you and yeah, we have

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Speaker 1: the best, most amazing team and exactly right, and I'm

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Speaker 1: like honored to have you on. You're gonna fit in

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Speaker 1: perfectly with the family. A family.

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Speaker 2: Well, anyway, I guess that's about it. Is there any

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Speaker 2: last words? Anything you want to tell people?

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Speaker 1: Please don't haunt me?

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Speaker 2: Exactly. It's about consent. And that's the thing with these goes.

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Speaker 2: Definitely they don't they you know, they just think they're

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Speaker 2: invited to show up and hover your bed at night.

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Speaker 2: But if they're not asked to, don't do it. And

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Speaker 2: maybe that's why they don't bother me that much, just

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Speaker 2: because I say stuff like that. Well, anyway, thank you

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Speaker 2: for making so many dreams come true for me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you you two.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much to Georgia Heart Star.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: So much excitement happening on this new launch of the show.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's just one of the many, many fabulous

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Speaker 2: guests and episodes that you can look forward to. So oh,

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Speaker 2: I'll be bad next week and I cannot wait. I

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Speaker 2: love you all, both living and dead. But if I

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Speaker 2: didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me.

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Speaker 1: Came by.

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Speaker 2: This has been an exactly right production. Want to share

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Speaker 2: your paranormal experience on the podcast. I read stories out

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Speaker 2: loud and sometimes I'll even call you, so email me

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Speaker 2: at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com. You can

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Speaker 2: send a DM or voice message to the show's Instagram

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Speaker 2: at ghosted by Roz. Give us a follow while you're there,

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Speaker 2: and follow me Roz on Instagram at Roz Hernandez and

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Speaker 2: on TikTok and Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez. My senior

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Speaker 2: producer is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the

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Speaker 2: alarming Alex Chie. This episode was mixed and sound designed

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Speaker 2: by the Edson Choi. My guest booker is the petrifying

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Speaker 2: Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the hair raising Hannah

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Speaker 2: Kyle Kriten. My theme music is by the spine Chilling

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Speaker 2: Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky Vanessa Lilac. Photography

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Speaker 2: by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the Chilling

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Speaker 2: Karen Kilgareff, the Spooky Georgia hart Stark, and the Frightening

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Speaker 2: Danielle Kramer.