WEBVTT - SYSK Selects: The Star Wars Holiday Special of 1978

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everybody. It's that time of year again for our

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<v Speaker 1>new annual tradition. This is the second year we're doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>of releasing our episode on the horrible, Terrible Star Wars

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas Special. By goodness, I am making this a holiday

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<v Speaker 1>tradition and I'm cramming it into our s y s

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<v Speaker 1>K Selects feed yet again. So enjoy getting the Christmas spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy life day, everybody. Welcome to Stuff you should know

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<v Speaker 1>from how Stuff Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with Charles W. Chuckers Bryant

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<v Speaker 1>and Jerry Jerome Roland. Uh. Who's the Wookie mother? Yeah? Mala?

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<v Speaker 1>That was the Wookie wife. Oh and mother? Yeah? Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>Chewbacca's momb is not with them Anymonger she left, she

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<v Speaker 1>was not about to appear in that. She went out

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<v Speaker 1>the window. I'm excited about this. I have to say

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<v Speaker 1>we should say Happy Star Wars Day. Yeah. Today is

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<v Speaker 1>um December. Um, I have my opening night tickets? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you really sure? Wow? You know? I do you into it? Oh? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well I will definitely go see it in the theater,

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<v Speaker 1>but um, why won't be the opening night? Sure? I've

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<v Speaker 1>gotten really adept at like, ignoring spoilers, people talking about

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<v Speaker 1>stuff all like, so I can I could conceivably see

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<v Speaker 1>this movie a month after it comes out and still

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<v Speaker 1>going fresh. It's I'm an ostrich. Yeah you black yourself out, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you go dark? Do I make myself go to sleep face?

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<v Speaker 1>You go to the dark side. I've been there a

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<v Speaker 1>while now. Uh well, Happy Star Wars Day though, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure that I think this pairs nicely with Christmas Star

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<v Speaker 1>Wars Day. It's all come together. Yes, Um, we already

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<v Speaker 1>missed Life Day though, so happy belated Life Day. Are

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<v Speaker 1>they celebrating it this year? November? Yeah? But it's every

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<v Speaker 1>three years? Mm hmm our cane man job. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's every three years. Started in nineteen seventy eight. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>do the math, shall we? Mm hmmm, quick math break.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that two thousand fourteen was the last Life Day.

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<v Speaker 1>May we just missed and then again in twenty seventeen. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so seventeen we'll celebrate Life Day. We'll put on our

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<v Speaker 1>red robes, are ultralong, straight ironed wigs, and we'll celebrate

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<v Speaker 1>Life Day the way it was meant to. Yes, And

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<v Speaker 1>if you have no idea what we're talking about We

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<v Speaker 1>are talking about Life Day, which is a celebration, uh

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<v Speaker 1>that Wookies in the Star Wars universe have every three years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like their Christmas or the Kanza, their tent supposedly

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like Earth. They two. They celebrate the diversity

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<v Speaker 1>of their ecosystem and also remembrance of the dead, and

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<v Speaker 1>they also give gifts. They're like the Finns basically. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a very interesting part of the Star

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<v Speaker 1>Wars canon. It is, and it's almost entirely made up,

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<v Speaker 1>dashed off you could possibly say, by um, George Lucas

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<v Speaker 1>in the seventies, um, And it's the basis of what

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<v Speaker 1>is become derided as like one of the worst things

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<v Speaker 1>that ever happened to the Star Wars galaxy. Well, not

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<v Speaker 1>only that, one of the worst things ever aired on television. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this galaxy. Yeah, at first, that sounds like hyperbole, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, it's because it was Star Wars. We had

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<v Speaker 1>high expectations. But it's really that bad. Yeah. The people

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<v Speaker 1>who say that haven't seen even a second of it. Yeah. Yeah, however,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched it, uh when I was a kid. Then

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<v Speaker 1>again this week, and you watched it twice this week. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched it last night and this morning. There's something

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<v Speaker 1>about it. It's as morizing, it really is. It's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things that you start watching it and you

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<v Speaker 1>want to turn it off, but you want to see

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<v Speaker 1>just how absurd it can get. Almost Yeah, and it

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<v Speaker 1>starts absurd, it stays absurd in the middle, it's increasingly

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<v Speaker 1>more absurd, it's a little less absurd, finishes super absurd. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a train wreck in every single sense of

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<v Speaker 1>the word. Talk to bottom. It's extraordinarily difficult to overstate

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<v Speaker 1>how bad this is. And some people you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>researching this, you read about it, you read descriptions of

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<v Speaker 1>these things, and it just can't possibly be gotten across

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<v Speaker 1>until you see it. So luckily, as we will see,

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<v Speaker 1>you can go onto YouTube and watch it, and you

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<v Speaker 1>may even enjoy this episode more if you pause, go

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<v Speaker 1>spend two hours watching this thing, and then come back

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<v Speaker 1>and laugh along with us. Yeah, there's a great Over

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<v Speaker 1>the years, there have been many segments of it on

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube from badly dub VHS tapes, but there's one really

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good version of it in full um brought to

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<v Speaker 1>you by W. H. I. O. Dayton Ohio Channel seven

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<v Speaker 1>because that flashes up on the screen periodically. Man, it

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<v Speaker 1>is high quality. It looks good, and it has to

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<v Speaker 1>basically be the copy that the actual UM affiliate broadcast. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like that, that quality compared to the other stuff

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<v Speaker 1>floating around on YouTube, clearly recorded on a R which

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<v Speaker 1>we're really expensive, very expensive. I did some calculating on

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<v Speaker 1>west Egg UM, so the average VCR went for about

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand dollars. There were brand new it's amazing thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in nineteen seventy eight money, so they were about

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight hundred dollars in two thousand fourteen money. Luckily,

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<v Speaker 1>there were some rich people out there recording this stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and the wealthy have saved us all again yet again,

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<v Speaker 1>as they always do. Uh. We need to shout out

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<v Speaker 1>some articles that we use for this. There's great a

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<v Speaker 1>great article in Vanity Fair called the Han Solo Comedy

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<v Speaker 1>Our exclamation Point by Frank did Jacomo. And then there's

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<v Speaker 1>the Star Wars Holiday Special was the worst thing on

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<v Speaker 1>television ever by So when we kind of know Alex

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<v Speaker 1>Pasternak uh from Motherboard Yeah, which is uh not wired,

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<v Speaker 1>it's uh vice. We wrote a little bit for Motherboard

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<v Speaker 1>back then, and we had a call with that, like

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<v Speaker 1>we're like old motherboard vets basically, and was there one more?

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<v Speaker 1>There was another one and I don't know who wrote

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<v Speaker 1>this one chuck. Uh, yeah, it's the titles the Star

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<v Speaker 1>Wars Holiday Special. George Lucas wants to smash every copy

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<v Speaker 1>of with a sledgehammer, which was a famous quote, uh

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<v Speaker 1>supposedly at a convention by Lucas, Yes, which is not correct.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't ever say that. No, okay, that that sounded

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<v Speaker 1>like something that people made up. Yes, but if you

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<v Speaker 1>go on the internet you will quickly believe that he did.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently didn't, So I'm sure he felt that way though, clearly,

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<v Speaker 1>because he did appear on Robot Chicken and I think

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand five on the Therapist Couch talking about how

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<v Speaker 1>much he hated the special. Alright, so let's set the background,

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<v Speaker 1>shall we shall we go back to summer, getting the

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<v Speaker 1>old way back machine. All right, let's do it. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>here we are, there's Waterson. Yeah, I'm just a little

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<v Speaker 1>six year old excited about Star Wars. I am, I've

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<v Speaker 1>just turned one. Yes, you don't know what's up yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I please forgive me if I urinate myself, no problem. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh so what has happened is Star Wars has become

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<v Speaker 1>a huge, huge hit, seemingly out of nowhere, establishing George

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<v Speaker 1>Lucas is one of the brilliant young minds in filmmaking.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though it in his first movie, it was his first, huge,

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<v Speaker 1>huge breakout hit. Oh yeah, for sure, talk I mean

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<v Speaker 1>talk about a breakout hit like no one had ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen anything like it before two thousand one had come

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<v Speaker 1>out in the late sixties. But it wasn't it's still

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<v Speaker 1>it still isn't accessible to all audiences. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of cerebral film. Yeah, it's not an adventure movie.

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<v Speaker 1>This was This is like basically swashbuckling on the screen,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, in a galaxy far far away. Star

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<v Speaker 1>Wars just changed everything and it came on just like

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<v Speaker 1>a hammer um and a new hope. By the way, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and then then we're going to get stuff wrong, nerds,

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, just go ahead and get your little fingers

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<v Speaker 1>ready to email us. Like if it wasn't driven home

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm not a nerd by the fact that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have opening night tickets or any tickets yet. Give

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<v Speaker 1>me a break and by proxy chuck to Okay, thank you. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's hard to stay how great Star Wars was

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<v Speaker 1>in everyone's mind, right. Bill Murray came out with that

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<v Speaker 1>lounge singer Star Wars thing. It was everywhere and if

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<v Speaker 1>you if you just listen to the lyrics of it,

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<v Speaker 1>he's really it's just Bill Murray singing about how much

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<v Speaker 1>Star Wars is awesome. Right. So, by the following year, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>George Lucas was he wanted to figure out a way

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<v Speaker 1>to keep audiences just engaged with the whole Star Wars

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<v Speaker 1>franchise that he was just starting to build. But he

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<v Speaker 1>knew the Empire Strikes Back was a couple more years out,

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<v Speaker 1>so um he I think he was approached by some

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<v Speaker 1>TV executives who said, have you considered doing some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of TV special? They're all the rage right now. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a we have a graphic that's really awesome that

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<v Speaker 1>we set aside just for TV specials here at CBS.

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't you let us let's get together and do

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<v Speaker 1>a Star Wars special. That's right. Producers Gary Smith and

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<v Speaker 1>Dwight Himmi on, Uh, We're working over at CBS, and

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<v Speaker 1>they said, this is a great way to keep the

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<v Speaker 1>spirit alive while you're making your other movie. Maybe move

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<v Speaker 1>some more toys. Yeah, which George Lucas got to. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was right before Thanksgiving, and he said, there'll be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people watching TV um pre holiday season,

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<v Speaker 1>or I guess in the holiday season. Well, the weekend

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<v Speaker 1>before Thanksgiving, it's like everybody's shopping, sitting around family like

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<v Speaker 1>waiting to actually do stuff. That's perfect time to broad

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<v Speaker 1>cast something on TV. So Lucas says, all right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>do this. I don't have a ton of time, but

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<v Speaker 1>how about this. I'll get I'll get a story together,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you can go hire a whiz bang team

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<v Speaker 1>of veteran writers and producers and directors whatever genre you

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<v Speaker 1>think is appropriate. And those are the words that will

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<v Speaker 1>haunt you, George Lucas to his grave. Yeah, so Lucas said,

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<v Speaker 1>here's my idea. I wanted to be based um on Wookiees,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to take place on their home planet

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<v Speaker 1>of Kizuk or Wookie planet. See is that how you

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<v Speaker 1>say Kazuk. That's how it's pronounced in the episode the

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<v Speaker 1>Holiday Special, but it's also pronounced different ways. Other times

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<v Speaker 1>I would have pronounced that Cashi e E got spell

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<v Speaker 1>it k a s h y y y K, which

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess that sounds like Chewbuck is planet

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<v Speaker 1>sure also called G five Wookie planets see or Eaton

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<v Speaker 1>is a mid rim planet. Right. So the whole reason

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<v Speaker 1>apparently that George Lucas was interested in featuring the Wookies

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<v Speaker 1>was it is what we in show business call low

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<v Speaker 1>hanging fruit. The reason why it was low hanging fruit

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<v Speaker 1>was because they had just established the different scenes that

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<v Speaker 1>would make the cut for Empire Strikes Back and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>what how did you pronounce it? Again? Kazook had not

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<v Speaker 1>made the cut. Uh. Even prior to this, apparently for

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<v Speaker 1>a new hope, George Lucas had whipped up a forty

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<v Speaker 1>page what's known as the Wookie Bible. It's like a

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<v Speaker 1>forty page supplement that's all about Kazook and Wookies and

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<v Speaker 1>Chewbacca and his family and everything about Wookie Doom. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So he's like, I've got this thing already, you know

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<v Speaker 1>established I love Wookies. Um, they didn't make the cut.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little sad about that. They're not gonna Kazuok

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<v Speaker 1>is not gonna show up in an Empire strikes back.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's build the entire special around wookies. It's basically

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<v Speaker 1>the one demand me George Lucas has. That's I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>totally hands off from this point on which you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of was. He totally wasn't It was actually this experience

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<v Speaker 1>that apparently taught him to be the very hands on

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<v Speaker 1>person that he is famous for being. It came out

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<v Speaker 1>of this Christmas special. Absolutely he was burned, and um

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<v Speaker 1>he had an iron grip after that on everything. So

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<v Speaker 1>here's some some of the folks behind it. Bruce Valanche,

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<v Speaker 1>famous TV writer. You've probably seen him on Hollywood Squares.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't he suspected of being Thomas pinch On for a while?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, or was Thomas pinch On on Hollywood Squares?

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea. I may be confabulating some stuff confounding. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some kind of some sort going on. It sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like it. So Valanche was hired as a writer. A

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<v Speaker 1>guy named Lenny Rips was hired as a writer who

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<v Speaker 1>has some great quotes in that Vanity Fair article he does.

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<v Speaker 1>His first quote was, we were really excited because this

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<v Speaker 1>is Star Wars. How could it lose famous last words?

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<v Speaker 1>Who else was sired? There was a husband and wife team,

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<v Speaker 1>the welch Is, who are the parents of folk singer

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<v Speaker 1>Gillian Welch. I'm a big fan of and I had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea that her parents. They were producers slash songwriters

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<v Speaker 1>of the day. They were big on the variety show scene,

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<v Speaker 1>which would turn out to be a really key cog

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<v Speaker 1>in this whole experience. So I feel like, right about here,

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry should insert a needle coming off of a record

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<v Speaker 1>sound effect. Okay, thanks Jerry, So Chuck, you just said

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<v Speaker 1>singer songwriters. Yeah, what would that have to do with

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<v Speaker 1>Star Wars? Yeah? Well, actually, in this Star Wars holiday special,

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<v Speaker 1>for those of you hadn't seen it, there are musical numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>They decided from the outset that there should be musical numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason that they decided that there should be

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<v Speaker 1>musical numbers is because the people who sold George Lucas

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<v Speaker 1>and at the time it was Star the Star Wars

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<v Speaker 1>Corporation was what it was called um On. The idea

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<v Speaker 1>of doing this TV special was that everyone would love

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<v Speaker 1>a variety show. Yea, it was the seventies. Great idea,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do a Variety Show. The problem was this, Apparently

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<v Speaker 1>George Lucas didn't watch enough TV, and he also overly

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<v Speaker 1>trusted people who talked to him because by yes, variety

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<v Speaker 1>shows had dominated television for over ten years, but it

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<v Speaker 1>had come to an end. It was getting stale. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking to Carol Burnett show. One of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>had just been canceled after eleven seasons, Big Red Flag,

0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Sonny and Chair had just had its last season. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean what else, like he Hall was he? I

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<v Speaker 1>was still going on, probably still on solid golden yet

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<v Speaker 1>to come on and take up the mantel that that

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<v Speaker 1>would variety show. Oh, it was a little bit and

0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:51.239
<v Speaker 1>there was talking in between the songs. Remember the Mandrell's

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<v Speaker 1>Sister show. I never watched that one. Well, it's with

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<v Speaker 1>that country chic thing that happened. Yeah, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>big deal in the it's kind of happening a in

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<v Speaker 1>I think, Oh, because of that dude, the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>won all the c m A Awards. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like he's he came along. He's like actually country.

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<v Speaker 1>His dad's like a coal miner for real from Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I know you mean Chris something. Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 1>he is good. He's come along and been like, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you guys doing? Well, there's a revival in like

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<v Speaker 1>good country music again. That's like in the tradition of Merle,

0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Haggard and Cash. And I guess that's probably where the

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<v Speaker 1>Country Sheet came from, because there was actually good country

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<v Speaker 1>going on. Yeah, Johnny Cash out of Variety Show? Did

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<v Speaker 1>he really? Yeah? I knew they did, like a Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>singing thing like out in Virginia. Yeah, he had his own.

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<v Speaker 1>Variety Show is actually pretty good. There's some like really

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<v Speaker 1>great performances. Do you know how many nerds are like,

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<v Speaker 1>get back to Star Wars? I know, I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So the Variety Show is is dying sort of,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they figure, what a great time to take

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest movie property on the planet and wedge it

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<v Speaker 1>into the Variety Show milieu. I don't know if wedge

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<v Speaker 1>is the right word. I think maybe uh, nestle it

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<v Speaker 1>in there and then start hitting it with the blunt

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<v Speaker 1>edge of an axe until it mashes into that crevice.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Because this is the time when Fantasy Island

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<v Speaker 1>had just started. Um Mork and Mindy was about to

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<v Speaker 1>change things Charlie's Angels was getting huge. It basically television

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<v Speaker 1>as we knew it from two whenever the real world

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<v Speaker 1>came along. Just escape as television is what they called

0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:31.280
<v Speaker 1>it was was starting and it was the hip new thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically, if they had turned Han Solo and Princess

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<v Speaker 1>Leiah and Luke Skywalker into maybe you know, sexy detectives,

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<v Speaker 1>it might have gone over even better. But they went

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<v Speaker 1>the other way. They decided to latch onto this extraordinarily

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<v Speaker 1>stale um genre of television and they hired the best

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<v Speaker 1>in the business, like there was there was. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a quote from I think Lenny RiPPs who was saying,

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<v Speaker 1>like we had literally a dream team, a variety show

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<v Speaker 1>dream team, and everybody was good. But there were probably

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<v Speaker 1>no bad welders on the Titanic. He there. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>great quote. Yeah. The guy they hired to direct it

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<v Speaker 1>initially was a dude named David A. Coomba, and he

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<v Speaker 1>had made his name for Welcome to the Fillmore East.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a concert documentary with Van Mortrison, Van Morrison

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<v Speaker 1>and the Birds in nine one, and he actually was

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<v Speaker 1>at usc Film School at the same time as Lucas.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though they didn't know each other, and um, he

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<v Speaker 1>only ended up directing about three segments of the thing

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<v Speaker 1>before he quit. Yet before he walked off, some say

0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.080
<v Speaker 1>he was actually let go, but we'll get to him

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<v Speaker 1>in a minute and who replaced him. As as we

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<v Speaker 1>get along down this uh gross road, well, let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>take a little break because I'm I'm overly excited. Okay, alright,

0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:09.600
<v Speaker 1>so we've established most of the main players. We'll we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to a few more. We should point out that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark hamill And and Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher, Peter Mayhew,

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<v Speaker 1>they had no grounds to refuse to be on this basically, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much. They were not huge, huge stars, yet they

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<v Speaker 1>could throw their weight around and say this is terrible

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not doing it. They were. They were big

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<v Speaker 1>overnight because of Star Wars, for sure, but they weren't

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<v Speaker 1>to the adoring public back at the studio. They could

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<v Speaker 1>still be bossed around. And this is the result of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can tell also, um, just from watching the

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<v Speaker 1>actual special, like Harrison Ford is not happy to be

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<v Speaker 1>there at any point. Um, Princess Leiah is clearly on drugs.

0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Uh was she on drugs at this point? She? If

0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:00.960
<v Speaker 1>you watch it, she's she's on drugs, Especially the ending

0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:04.359
<v Speaker 1>scene Mark Campbell, it was looks like he's happy to

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<v Speaker 1>be there. Actually he was fine, but apparently he said no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm not doing a musical number. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>watch his part, wedging a musical number in there would

0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:18.320
<v Speaker 1>have been even more painful. Um. But they everybody who

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<v Speaker 1>was part of the actual Star Wars franchise that wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>wearing like a full body costume was like, I really

0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:27.600
<v Speaker 1>wish I wasn't here, And you can tell, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, in the opening uh credit sequence, they're showing

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<v Speaker 1>the picture that you know, the faces of the people,

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<v Speaker 1>and you see Harrison Ford as if he's flying the

0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Millennium Falcon, and you can you can just hear the

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<v Speaker 1>guy off screen going now look at the camera and

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<v Speaker 1>just give a nod. Just look at the camera and

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<v Speaker 1>give a nod. And he finally you can tell he's

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<v Speaker 1>piste off and he looks up at the camera and

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<v Speaker 1>just sort of smirks yeah and points at the camera

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<v Speaker 1>like okay, I'm looking at the camera, and then goes

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<v Speaker 1>back to what he's doing. Yeah, it's pretty awesome. I

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<v Speaker 1>felt bad for him so early on Valanche and others

0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:00.000
<v Speaker 1>did you did you feel bad for him? Though? Really?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, come on, it's Harrison Ford's Hans Solo.

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<v Speaker 1>He has to go do this for like five days. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt terrible for him. I think it's hilarious that

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<v Speaker 1>they had to do this, especially now. Well, early on,

0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Valanche and others knew that they may be in trouble

0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:20.440
<v Speaker 1>because they decided not to subtitle any of the Wookie dialogue,

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<v Speaker 1>and they literally started after a brief opening scene setting

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<v Speaker 1>it up here. Here's the basic plot is, Han Solo

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<v Speaker 1>is trying to get Chewbacca back to Kazook in time

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<v Speaker 1>for Life Day so we can celebrate with his family.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the basis of the entire two ys. The basis

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<v Speaker 1>the entire two hours. They encounter a space battle and

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<v Speaker 1>they're delayed, and the next two hours are kind of

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on while the delay is happening back on Kazoo,

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<v Speaker 1>back on Kazook. Because you hear, like, okay, well, Han

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<v Speaker 1>Solo and Chewbacca evading the Imperial Guard and all that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff for two hours. I would watch that. I would too.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what they show killing time at the Wookie household.

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<v Speaker 1>That is what they show. Yeah, that's what they do.

0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:08.840
<v Speaker 1>It's people hanging out waiting for Chewbacca, worrying about him,

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<v Speaker 1>and then killing time while they wait for him to

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<v Speaker 1>come back. Literally, so um and so hold on. So

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<v Speaker 1>you say there's a setup, right, Yeah, that's the initial

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<v Speaker 1>setup and then chuck. That's followed by this. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>followed by literally ten minutes, ten solid minutes of incomprehensible

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<v Speaker 1>Wookie speak. So let's let's join it for a second,

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<v Speaker 1>shall we. Yeah, let's all enjoy it. And again, you

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<v Speaker 1>said ten minutes, and you're not exaggerating, you're not being hyperbolic.

0:22:24.400 --> 0:22:27.280
<v Speaker 1>You can time it. That's it's ten minutes of wook

0:22:27.280 --> 0:22:30.760
<v Speaker 1>He's talking to each other with no subtitles. Fortunately, I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't follow it at first, like I didn't even know

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<v Speaker 1>who it was. I thought it was might have been

0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:40.919
<v Speaker 1>Chewbacca's mom and dad. Oh that's a little brother. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't find out until later when Mark Cambell shows

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<v Speaker 1>up via skype call and says, he really explains everything

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<v Speaker 1>that had just happened, Like, you're Chewbacca's father, Itchy, you're

0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Chewbacca's son, uh, lumpy Lumpy, and you're Chewbacca's wife. Oh mama, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. So before everybody starts like freaking out, we

0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:06.879
<v Speaker 1>know that that's actually their nicknames. Their real names are.

0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:11.520
<v Speaker 1>His father is a Ti chick cook, a Ti chick cook,

0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:14.840
<v Speaker 1>it's really hard to pronounce. Mulatto Buck is his wife,

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<v Speaker 1>and his son is Lumpo war Rump but as named

0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:22.560
<v Speaker 1>by Lucas. But yeah, but Lucas also named him Lumpy

0:23:22.640 --> 0:23:27.919
<v Speaker 1>Itchy and Mala so um. They're all back there wringing

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<v Speaker 1>their hands, trying to figure out ways to pass the

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<v Speaker 1>time until they get word from Chewbacca that he's made

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<v Speaker 1>it to uh what is it ketchuck z kazuok um

0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:43.280
<v Speaker 1>just ketchup ketchup or cats up if you're fancy. Um.

0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:48.320
<v Speaker 1>But Chewbacca is having trouble getting back to Katchuk because

0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:54.280
<v Speaker 1>there's Kazuk because there's a blockade by the Empire and

0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:57.560
<v Speaker 1>they're looking for rebels, specifically Chewbacca. Who I didn't realize this.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the most famous Wookie of all. Did you know that? Yeah,

0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:03.120
<v Speaker 1>of course I didn't know that. Well, I mean he's

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<v Speaker 1>the only one that really appears in the movies. I

0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:09.480
<v Speaker 1>mean that we're seeing, like you know, these people's view

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe. What about back on Zook. Yeah, he

0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:16.520
<v Speaker 1>might have just been a fly by night wookie, right, yeah,

0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:19.240
<v Speaker 1>but not the case, very famous wookie. Yeah, and he

0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:22.440
<v Speaker 1>really loved it, like soak in his fame. All right,

0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:25.560
<v Speaker 1>So he realizes there's a problem. Valanche. He goes to

0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Lucas and it's like, I don't know, man, this is

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<v Speaker 1>your world, but it may not be the strongest thing

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<v Speaker 1>to do to set this in wookie Land and have

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<v Speaker 1>all this incomprehensible dialogue. And he says he was met

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<v Speaker 1>with a glacial stare. Uh. Well, he put it a

0:24:41.920 --> 0:24:45.320
<v Speaker 1>little differently than that. Well, he said glacial stair. He did.

0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:49.040
<v Speaker 1>The glacial stair that he got was for this quote.

0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:52.159
<v Speaker 1>He said, these people just talk and what sounds like

0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:55.120
<v Speaker 1>fat people having an orgasm. He goes, if you want,

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<v Speaker 1>you can set up a tape recorder in my bedroom

0:24:57.160 --> 0:24:59.480
<v Speaker 1>and I'll do all of the follying for it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a large guy, he is, so uh that's what

0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:05.520
<v Speaker 1>got the glacial stare. But Valanche later said that from this,

0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:09.120
<v Speaker 1>there was one development meeting that Lucas attended, and it

0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 1>was here's the Wookie Bible tell me what you got,

0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:16.240
<v Speaker 1>and Valanche said he and the other writers and producers

0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:19.439
<v Speaker 1>and director were just kind of throwing ideas, and George

0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Lucas would either say like, no, that doesn't work, give

0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:26.560
<v Speaker 1>him a glacial stare, or say, yes, that's exactly it. Yes,

0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:29.000
<v Speaker 1>let's make this a variety show. Yeah. And there was

0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:33.240
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of um background there. The cantina players

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:36.800
<v Speaker 1>in the band had appeared on other variety shows at

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<v Speaker 1>that point, and I think it went over fairly well,

0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:42.960
<v Speaker 1>just as a short segment on like the Richard Pryor

0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Variety Show or Donnie Marie um Man. There were a

0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:50.240
<v Speaker 1>lot of variety shows. But that's what I'm saying. It

0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:53.639
<v Speaker 1>was that was television. That's what you did, like the breaks,

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:57.960
<v Speaker 1>um the The show had its course, and then it

0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:01.919
<v Speaker 1>became a variety show. It was just everybody love variety shows.

0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:05.840
<v Speaker 1>By this time, though, everybody was sick of variety shows

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:08.880
<v Speaker 1>and so it really was a terrible choice. In fact,

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:12.159
<v Speaker 1>they even hired a couple of writers from Shields and Yarnell,

0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:15.240
<v Speaker 1>which I hadn't heard of. Oh yeah, I watched it.

0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:18.920
<v Speaker 1>It was creepy, this mind couple who had their own

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:23.359
<v Speaker 1>variety show, and they figured these two will be great

0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:27.159
<v Speaker 1>because they are used to working without words, right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>and so there is a certain logic to the variety show.

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:33.360
<v Speaker 1>It's not that's just that variety shows were popular at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. Somebody was like, well, Wookie's you don't understand

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 1>what they're saying. So this is all going to be

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<v Speaker 1>very physical. So these people who who did what is

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:45.800
<v Speaker 1>it shields in yard? Now, yeah, that that's a perfect choice.

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:49.240
<v Speaker 1>That that makes complete sense. You can see this whole

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:51.760
<v Speaker 1>this whole process of leading up to the point where

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:55.280
<v Speaker 1>it was produced and shot and everything a series of like, oh,

0:26:55.359 --> 0:26:58.200
<v Speaker 1>we have this problem, Well here's a fix, but that

0:26:58.280 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 1>leads to another problem. Well we'll fix it with the

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 1>and and no one stepping back and being like, all

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:06.640
<v Speaker 1>we've done is create a series of problems that are

0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:09.920
<v Speaker 1>going to come together and make one extraordinarily large problem

0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 1>that will become legendary. No one did that, And so

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing was was made. That's right. And it

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:21.720
<v Speaker 1>eventually airs on November seventeen, nineteen seventy eight, a Friday,

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 1>at eight pm Eastern time. That's right, and Nielsen ratings

0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 1>it um attracted thirteen million viewers just the second hour

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 1>just in the US. It aired in six or seven

0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:37.359
<v Speaker 1>countries total. Yeah, but no one cares about that, I

0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 1>guess not because none of those are on the internet,

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:42.440
<v Speaker 1>you know. Uh. It finished second to the Love Boat

0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:44.960
<v Speaker 1>in the second I'm sorry from eight to nine, and

0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 1>in the next hour actually finished behind part two of

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:50.919
<v Speaker 1>a mini series about Pearl Harbor starring Angie Dickinson. So

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:54.800
<v Speaker 1>it didn't even win their respective hours. No, thirteen million,

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>that's that's not bad. The thing is, apparently if you

0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:01.640
<v Speaker 1>look at the Nielsen ratings graph for the first hour,

0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah we know about that graphic. It's okay, yeah, we do.

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:08.240
<v Speaker 1>And then after a very important part, which we'll talk

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:11.240
<v Speaker 1>about soon. Um, it just drops off at the end

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 1>of the first hour, and that actually probably made the

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 1>executives at CBS cringe for a number of reasons. Number

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:21.000
<v Speaker 1>one is this special was originally supposed to just be

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:24.440
<v Speaker 1>an hour, but so many advertisers wanted to sign on

0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:29.240
<v Speaker 1>that they extended it to two hours. And it shines

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:32.880
<v Speaker 1>through you can totally tell that this thing was never

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 1>supposed to I think an hour might have been stretching it.

0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 1>To tell you the truth, it's thirty minutes of content,

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 1>forty if you're generous an hour and then two hours,

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 1>it becomes one of the worst things that was ever

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 1>put on television. All right, well, let's take a break

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 1>and then we'll talk a little bit more about the

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:54.320
<v Speaker 1>actual um uh, even I don't want to call it content,

0:28:55.440 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 1>but it is content in the strictest definitions. Right after this, sorry, George. Alright,

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 1>So the show itself, we've given you the main plot line,

0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 1>which again is that Chewy is trying to get back

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:30.719
<v Speaker 1>to his home planet to celebrate life Day with his family. Right,

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 1>that's it, And again we almost barely see Chewy. H

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:40.240
<v Speaker 1>The rest is his family on because waiting for him

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 1>to come back for a life Day. Yeah. So, um.

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Some of the various things they did, they were guest stars.

0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:48.280
<v Speaker 1>There was Harvey Corman from The Carol Burnett Show, one

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:52.400
<v Speaker 1>of my all time favorites him or Carol Carol Burnett

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Show both. He's great. Yeah, he actually if you watch

0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 1>what he's doing, you're like, this is comedy genius. For apparently,

0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 1>he too was like the only one on set that

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 1>was bringing levity. He was joking around and kind of

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 1>kept spirits up. Good for him, that's what I say.

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 1>And he had three, three different parts. Yeah, he played

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 1>uh uh well, I don't even know the names. Actually

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 1>we could look him up, but he played a He

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 1>played a Julia child like cook. There's an actual cooking segment,

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 1>a long one, a very long cooking segment where Chewbacca's

0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>wife Um makes Banta stew to kill some time, to

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 1>kill some time because there was waiting on her planet

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 1>and in our living room. Yeah, so Harvey Corman is

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 1>in drag is a foe armed Julia childlike uh TV

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 1>chef and I think it's Gormanda. Is her name Gormanda?

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 1>That makes total sense. He also plays Um. There's this

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 1>one weird bit where Chewbacca's son tries to figure out

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 1>a way to trick the stormtroopers that the Empire had

0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 1>come and kind of because the blockade raided the house

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 1>and other properties. He tries to trick them by I think,

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 1>rigging a calm link to speak in a different voice.

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 1>So he has to watch the instruction manual. He watches

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 1>an instruction video which was Harvey Kitel as a robot. Oh,

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 1>it would have been wonderful of big Harvey Kitel. Harvey

0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Carvey Corman, Oh man ha murders someone in the middle

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>of the instruction Harvey Corman. And then the final role

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:30.920
<v Speaker 1>he had was as a a bar patron in the

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:35.000
<v Speaker 1>cantina that drinks. He has a hole in the top

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:37.560
<v Speaker 1>of his head like a volcano, where he pours his

0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 1>drinks in. That's how he drinks. And he he loves

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 1>b Arthur. Did we mention be Arthur was in it?

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 1>B Arthur is not only in it, Chuck. She sings

0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 1>a song. She does. She is thennownst to everyone, she

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 1>manages or maybe owns the owner. Yeah, the what's the mos?

0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 1>What mos deaf cantina? Uh? No, most deaf is a rapper.

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I think you mean Moss Eisley. Yes, yes,

0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:03.960
<v Speaker 1>that cantina. She's the owner. Be Arthur is the owner,

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:06.680
<v Speaker 1>the author of the Golden Girls, but in this case,

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 1>the Arthur of Maud, because, as one of the people

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 1>who wrote one of the articles we based this on

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:14.160
<v Speaker 1>points out, she's just basically playing Maud as the owner

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 1>of the cantina. Yeah, and her song comes because um,

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 1>they basically say, there's a lockdown, so you gotta call

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 1>last call um at your bar. So she calls last

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:28.120
<v Speaker 1>call by singing a song to everyone, right, and again,

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 1>we can't possibly have the script lead anywhere else but

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Chewbacca's house while his family waits for it. So all

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:39.840
<v Speaker 1>this takes place as part of a public service announcement

0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 1>basically broadcast by the Empire about how immoral life on

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 1>tattooing is. So let's go see what's going on in

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 1>the mas Eisley Cantina as it's being shut down for curfew. Alright,

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 1>this is incomprehensible, but it goes on. Um, so they're

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 1>in it. There's also Art Carney, Yes, the Honeymooners family,

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 1>the star of the whole thing. Really, he has the

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:10.480
<v Speaker 1>most lines, I would say, the most comprehensible line. Right.

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 1>So he plays a trader, a human trader um that is,

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:18.479
<v Speaker 1>uh recently been with Han Solo and Chewy and actually

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 1>gets to Kazuk and says they're on the way. It's

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 1>all good. Yeah, a trader, not trade tour. Yeah, traders

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 1>in trades humans for you know money. No, he he

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:34.840
<v Speaker 1>sells goods. Yeah, a trader. He doesn't trade humans. Yeah,

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 1>he's in the human trade. He No, he isn't. Really

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:42.240
<v Speaker 1>he trades humans like he sells humans. I looked it

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 1>up in the Star Wars Encyclopedia said that he was

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 1>in the human trade. Huh, So in this Christmas special,

0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:52.840
<v Speaker 1>apparently they sanitized his his background because he's basically just

0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 1>selling like gadgets and novelties and stuff like that to

0:33:55.960 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 1>the Wookies and the Empire who were occupying the area. Yes,

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:05.040
<v Speaker 1>he comes bearing gifts because he's a friend of Chewbacca's family. Yeah,

0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 1>so he comes bearing gifts. One of the gifts he

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:11.240
<v Speaker 1>gives is a UM sort of like a little digital

0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:15.279
<v Speaker 1>insert to a Oh, I guess you would call it

0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 1>a virtual reality hair dryer hair dryer, like a beauty

0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:23.839
<v Speaker 1>shop hair dryer. Right. He gives it to Grandpa Itchy.

0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:27.759
<v Speaker 1>Grandpa Itchy um sits under this hair dryer pops in

0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:32.440
<v Speaker 1>this uh digital cassette, and it can only be described

0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:36.960
<v Speaker 1>as softcore porn. Apparently the writers who were interviewed for

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:39.719
<v Speaker 1>this said that was totally the intent. They were trying

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:42.800
<v Speaker 1>to get what amounted to softcore porn that would pass

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:48.080
<v Speaker 1>the sensors. So it's all m You can't even say

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 1>it's innuendo. It's too obvious in overt for innuendo. Instead,

0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:57.600
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's just it's just gross. It's really gross. Um,

0:34:57.680 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Diane Carroll singer, Yes she is, Um, a Vegas staple,

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:09.560
<v Speaker 1>shows up and starts basically tantalizing. Um. Grandpa Itchy, who again,

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:13.640
<v Speaker 1>this is Chewbacca's elderly father who now engages in some

0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:17.839
<v Speaker 1>sort of well he's he's watching virtual reality pornography now,

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 1>and this is a pretty lengthy segment in and of itself.

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, and she literally says to him like, now

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:28.279
<v Speaker 1>I can see you're really excited. Yeah, it's pretty rough

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:30.720
<v Speaker 1>to watch. Yeah, so then you've got another musical number

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:37.319
<v Speaker 1>because also again he shutters, yeah, it's really strange. All right,

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:39.960
<v Speaker 1>So there's also ah, I know, it seems like we're

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 1>jumping around, but it's it's so mind blowing, not like

0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:45.400
<v Speaker 1>this is pretty much like blow for blow. Um. Actually

0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:49.360
<v Speaker 1>I forgot earlier on in in the in the special, Um,

0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:53.560
<v Speaker 1>there's one of my favorite sequences is when Grandpa Itchy

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:57.719
<v Speaker 1>goes over to Lumpy and basically sets up remember the

0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:00.760
<v Speaker 1>the hologram chessboard that they played in A New Hope,

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:03.360
<v Speaker 1>basically kind of sets that up and says, here, just

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:06.000
<v Speaker 1>play this. He pushes the button, which is clearly a

0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:13.279
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventies cassette recorder and another Uh, like it's like

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:20.080
<v Speaker 1>a Cirque de sol acid trip um gymnast routine happens

0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:22.879
<v Speaker 1>in front of the kid's eyes. And again this all

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:25.400
<v Speaker 1>just it's not like it shows a snippet. They showed

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:29.399
<v Speaker 1>the entire segments, like five six minutes long of all

0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:31.920
<v Speaker 1>of these things. So you would think, Okay, they've gone

0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:35.319
<v Speaker 1>to this hologram, well a couple of times, why not

0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 1>go to it again? Well they do. They do to

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 1>kill more time. While the Imperial Guard is ransacking their house. Um,

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:46.799
<v Speaker 1>Art Carney apparently, I guess it's trying to get one

0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 1>of the Imperial Guard, the leader I think, or one

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:52.120
<v Speaker 1>of the leaders who looks like somebody from Spaceballs by

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:55.320
<v Speaker 1>the way, very much so. Um. And the writer of

0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:58.240
<v Speaker 1>the Vanity Fair article, by the way said, um, this,

0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:01.839
<v Speaker 1>this is so incomprehensible. This sechelis George Lucas didn't even

0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:05.560
<v Speaker 1>have the Schwartz with him at the time. So anyway,

0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:10.960
<v Speaker 1>our Carney's distracting this uh imperial leader. Um, while they're

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:15.400
<v Speaker 1>ransacking the Wookie's house, Chewbacca's house with a hologram, and

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 1>this hologram instead of being an acrobat or Diane Carroll

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:21.719
<v Speaker 1>or any kind of porn or anything like that is

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Jefferson Starship, and they decide that they're going to play

0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:30.360
<v Speaker 1>Light the Sky on Fire, which apparently is about UFOs.

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:33.399
<v Speaker 1>It's a little music video. Basically, it's a pretty Yeah,

0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:36.479
<v Speaker 1>it's the predecessor to like video kill the radio Starr

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:40.320
<v Speaker 1>you can tell um. And again it is the whole

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:45.400
<v Speaker 1>lengthy song, the whole thing. So every time that somebody's

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:49.160
<v Speaker 1>like we need to escape mentally from what's going on

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:52.280
<v Speaker 1>here in our house, let's go into the video world,

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:55.800
<v Speaker 1>it's not just and they don't cut back and forth.

0:37:56.520 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 1>It's okay, here's five minutes of Jefferson stars of performing

0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:03.759
<v Speaker 1>this song. Yeah, and even the Jefferson Starship guys um

0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 1>were like, yeah, that's sort of a weird trip, Like

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:09.000
<v Speaker 1>we didn't get it, but we did it right. They

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 1>gave us some money and some cocaine. Well probably, so

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 1>we said, yeah, chuck. I think though, um, there yet

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:22.239
<v Speaker 1>another segment like this is actually widely regarded as the

0:38:22.320 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 1>high point of the whole thing. So there is a

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:28.839
<v Speaker 1>cartoon actually yeah that Lump Lumpy watches Yeah Lump, He's

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:33.080
<v Speaker 1>like the Imperial Guard is still ransacking my house. I

0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:36.279
<v Speaker 1>think I'll entertain myself by watching a cartoon on my

0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:39.120
<v Speaker 1>little Um, I don't know what. I guess it was

0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:43.279
<v Speaker 1>an iPad and uh, he watches this cartoon and it's

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 1>it's actually remarkable for a number of reasons. It's the

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:49.799
<v Speaker 1>best part of the whole special generally agreed upon as such,

0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:53.880
<v Speaker 1>not just us. And it introduces Boba Fett. It's the

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:55.880
<v Speaker 1>first time Boba Fett ever makes an appearance in the

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Star Wars universe. Yeah, it's actually not a bad And

0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:01.360
<v Speaker 1>you can't find it in the the one version I

0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:03.480
<v Speaker 1>told you to watch. They removed it for copyright. But

0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:05.719
<v Speaker 1>he didn't watch a separate version, right, you can find

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:08.120
<v Speaker 1>it on its own. Yeah, and it's um, it's very

0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:10.600
<v Speaker 1>much reminiscent of like the cartoon style of the day,

0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:13.759
<v Speaker 1>like a he Man or something even even but it's

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:17.080
<v Speaker 1>even a little more artsy than that. Yeah. But it

0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 1>does have a plot that you can follow that makes

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:23.360
<v Speaker 1>sense as a Star Wars thing, and it introduces Boba Fette,

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:26.000
<v Speaker 1>like you said, And um, it's actually not bad. It's

0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:28.719
<v Speaker 1>like Luke and R two and C three p O. Yeah,

0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:31.000
<v Speaker 1>and they're like they crash on a planet or something. Yeah.

0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:32.400
<v Speaker 1>And Han and Chewarry You're in it, and it's the

0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 1>first time we see in Darth Vader. It's the first

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:38.000
<v Speaker 1>time we see Boba Fette and that he is, uh,

0:39:39.160 --> 0:39:41.479
<v Speaker 1>that he is just doing whatever he can do for money,

0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Like Luke trusts him at first. C three b I

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:45.399
<v Speaker 1>was like, you sure you should trust him this quick?

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, oh three p o you and your

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 1>non trusting ways. And then it turns out he's selling

0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:53.000
<v Speaker 1>them out to the dark side. So it's it's basically

0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:58.719
<v Speaker 1>Boba Fett is an allegory for George Lucas himself. Um,

0:39:58.800 --> 0:40:01.160
<v Speaker 1>So the cartoon comes and goes, and that was the

0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 1>thing that came at about the end of the first

0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 1>hour mark and after that everybody just turned off their

0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:11.839
<v Speaker 1>television sets. Yeah, I don't remember. Did you watch this

0:40:11.880 --> 0:40:13.960
<v Speaker 1>when it came up? Yeah? I remember watching it, but

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:16.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember much about it, like if I made

0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:18.200
<v Speaker 1>it through it all. I mean it was I was

0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:20.040
<v Speaker 1>seven and it was on until ten, so I probably

0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:23.320
<v Speaker 1>didn't make it through it all. Um, you're probably disturbed.

0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Who knows. I just remember that. I have to ask

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:29.040
<v Speaker 1>my brother. He might have a memory of this. Oh,

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Betty does, I'm sure he met everybody afterwards or something

0:40:31.800 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 1>like that. You know, it has a picture. Well, he

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:35.880
<v Speaker 1>was ten at that point, so cynicism had, you know,

0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:39.839
<v Speaker 1>become a thing in his life probably by then, didn't

0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:43.320
<v Speaker 1>that When cynicism kicks into he'scott holding out the fourteen

0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:47.399
<v Speaker 1>fifteen Yeah maybe so so um chuck, the whole thing

0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:50.120
<v Speaker 1>finally does in. And actually there's a guy, his name

0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:52.839
<v Speaker 1>is Nathan Raban, he writes over at the A V Club.

0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:55.120
<v Speaker 1>He had a great quote. He basically said that one

0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:58.720
<v Speaker 1>of the great redeeming values of this um, this special

0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:00.680
<v Speaker 1>is that it does eventually end. Yeah, you know what

0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 1>the first part of the quote is, I'm not convinced

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:06.320
<v Speaker 1>the special wasn't ultimately written and directed by a sentient

0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:10.720
<v Speaker 1>bag of cocaine. And like, go read his his review

0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:13.400
<v Speaker 1>of the Star Wars Holiday Special, because he goes on

0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 1>to describe exactly what that must have been, like the

0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 1>development meeting where the bag of cocaine is pacing back

0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:21.799
<v Speaker 1>and forth talking about what should happen. That's what it

0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:26.600
<v Speaker 1>feels like. But it doesn't, and it ends even more.

0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:29.560
<v Speaker 1>It takes this bizarre two hours and wraps it up

0:41:29.560 --> 0:41:32.480
<v Speaker 1>in just a nice bizarre bow. Yeah. So what happens

0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:38.000
<v Speaker 1>is eventually Han Solo should we say spoiler alert. Eventually

0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Han Solo and Chewy make it to the planet. They

0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:42.640
<v Speaker 1>park on the far side of the planet because they

0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:45.759
<v Speaker 1>know the uh the Imperial forces are there and the

0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:49.120
<v Speaker 1>exercise will do Chewy good, so they have to hike

0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:51.440
<v Speaker 1>over there. They eventually make it back home. Uh, they

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:56.000
<v Speaker 1>find a storm the stormtroopers at their house. Um, their

0:41:56.040 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 1>tree hut. Yeah, which by the paintings that set this up,

0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:03.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we mentioned I don't even call him

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:05.759
<v Speaker 1>Matt paintings that it looks like someone painted something on

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:07.840
<v Speaker 1>the wall and they just like put a camera in

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 1>front of it pretty much. Yeah. So they get back

0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:14.320
<v Speaker 1>and um, Chewbacca, Han Solo hides around the corner of

0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Chewbacca steps in front of his son to protect him.

0:42:17.440 --> 0:42:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Han Solo jumps out, and the stormtrooper trips over a

0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:26.200
<v Speaker 1>pile of logs and falls over the balcony and dies

0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:28.799
<v Speaker 1>in a holiday special. So they wouldn't even not only

0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:33.720
<v Speaker 1>could he not shoot first with Grido, but they couldn't

0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:35.719
<v Speaker 1>even have him like wrestle the storm trooper and throw

0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:39.640
<v Speaker 1>him off. He trips over a log and Han Solo

0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 1>has his hands thrown up like wasn't me? It might

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:46.839
<v Speaker 1>also been a banana peel, you know, But again, uh,

0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:51.840
<v Speaker 1>this is basically produced by vaudevillians starring vaudevillians. Why not

0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:54.520
<v Speaker 1>have the one death take place from basically what it

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:57.600
<v Speaker 1>mounts to somebody slipping on a banana peel? Exactly. It's

0:42:58.000 --> 0:43:00.799
<v Speaker 1>a perfect way to end it. So that's uh that

0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 1>that guy basically represents the end of the Imperial threat

0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:08.120
<v Speaker 1>for the rest of Life Day. And um, we we

0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:11.920
<v Speaker 1>then see Life Day being celebrated, which is celebrated by

0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:16.200
<v Speaker 1>lots of wookies assembling in what looks like a giant

0:43:16.280 --> 0:43:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Olan Mills portrait. Um, and all of them are wearing

0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 1>red robes. And I know I'm up talking, and it's

0:43:25.719 --> 0:43:28.600
<v Speaker 1>because my mind is still having trouble like wrapping around this.

0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:33.319
<v Speaker 1>And then um, Princess Leia comes out with C three

0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:36.520
<v Speaker 1>P O is Mark Hamill there, the whole gang zero

0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:38.439
<v Speaker 1>from okay, the whole gangs there, And then they all

0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:42.760
<v Speaker 1>gather around to hear a great quote from Princess Leiah,

0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:47.800
<v Speaker 1>which we will read um verbatim. This holiday is yours,

0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:50.759
<v Speaker 1>but we all share with you the hope that this

0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:54.000
<v Speaker 1>day brings us closer to freedom, into harmony, into peace.

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:57.200
<v Speaker 1>No matter how different we appear, we're all the same

0:43:57.200 --> 0:43:59.600
<v Speaker 1>in our struggle against the powers of evil and darkness.

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I hope that this day will always be a day

0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:05.440
<v Speaker 1>of joy in which we can reconfirm our dedication and

0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:08.160
<v Speaker 1>our courage, and more than anything else, our love for

0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:10.960
<v Speaker 1>one another. This is the promise of the Tree of

0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Life que song, right, And we should also point out

0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:16.800
<v Speaker 1>the tree of Life has never been mentioned up to

0:44:16.880 --> 0:44:20.399
<v Speaker 1>this point. Takes a sudden appearance at the end. And

0:44:20.480 --> 0:44:23.080
<v Speaker 1>when you said que song, by que song, you mean

0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Princess Leiah starts singing. Yeah. And apparently that was one

0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 1>of the big contingencies on Carrie Fisher being involved. She's

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:33.239
<v Speaker 1>going through a phase where she was like, I kind

0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:36.560
<v Speaker 1>of like singing. Bruce Valanche calls it her Joni Mitchell period. Yeah,

0:44:36.560 --> 0:44:39.759
<v Speaker 1>and she somehow convinced them to let her sing as

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:43.799
<v Speaker 1>Princess Leiah. And she does. And again I've said that

0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:45.799
<v Speaker 1>she looks like she's on drugs. This is the point

0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:47.759
<v Speaker 1>where she really does look like she's on drugs. And

0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:50.760
<v Speaker 1>it's not just me Um other writers who have written

0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:56.840
<v Speaker 1>reviews of this, it's really obvious that she possibly smoked

0:44:56.840 --> 0:45:00.360
<v Speaker 1>a decent amount of pot before she shot this shot

0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:04.000
<v Speaker 1>this scene, but she sings, Oh, okay, it's fine. It's

0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:08.520
<v Speaker 1>just the fact that um, Princess Leigh is singing. And actually,

0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Bruce Valanche had a really great quote too. He says that, um,

0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:14.880
<v Speaker 1>she very much wanted to show this side of her talent,

0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:17.719
<v Speaker 1>and there was general dismay because this was not what

0:45:17.760 --> 0:45:21.280
<v Speaker 1>we wanted Princess Leia to be doing. She did it anyway.

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:24.000
<v Speaker 1>So the whole thing ends with her singing this song

0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:29.040
<v Speaker 1>about life day, which is set loosely to the John

0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Williams Star Wars theme. Uh. So along the way, the

0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:36.759
<v Speaker 1>director original director quit, A new director, Steve Binder, was

0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:39.800
<v Speaker 1>hired to finish the job and bring it in. Uh.

0:45:39.840 --> 0:45:42.760
<v Speaker 1>And he did over the original one million dollar budget,

0:45:42.800 --> 0:45:46.240
<v Speaker 1>of course always Uh, he did bring it in and

0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:50.200
<v Speaker 1>um at this point George Lucas had uh. He was

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:53.040
<v Speaker 1>he was working on Empire Strikes Back. He didn't know

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:55.680
<v Speaker 1>what was going on. He wasn't around for the shoot. No,

0:45:55.840 --> 0:45:57.920
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't until it aired. I think that he actually

0:45:57.920 --> 0:46:01.640
<v Speaker 1>saw it. Yes, and it was a havsty obviously, if

0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:05.279
<v Speaker 1>you haven't noticed that by now, critics hated it. Star

0:46:05.280 --> 0:46:08.359
<v Speaker 1>Wars fans really hated it. Everybody hate The people who

0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:11.480
<v Speaker 1>were in it hated it. Lucas hated it. Even Harvey

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:15.799
<v Speaker 1>Corman secretly hated it. Even Harvey Kitel hated Actually he

0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:19.600
<v Speaker 1>loved it. But Lucas has been asked over the years

0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:21.719
<v Speaker 1>about it a lot, and he doesn't talk about it much.

0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:24.400
<v Speaker 1>But in two thousand five, and I don't buy this

0:46:24.440 --> 0:46:27.480
<v Speaker 1>for a second. He says, um it was an interview

0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:31.680
<v Speaker 1>he said special from I really didn't have much to

0:46:31.719 --> 0:46:33.960
<v Speaker 1>do with us. You know that part is true. I

0:46:34.000 --> 0:46:36.560
<v Speaker 1>can't remember what network it was even on, but it

0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:39.080
<v Speaker 1>was a thing that they did. That's a lie. There's

0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 1>no way he doesn't know that was cvt uh. We

0:46:42.080 --> 0:46:44.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of just let them do it. I believe that

0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:46.440
<v Speaker 1>it was done by I can't even remember who the

0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:49.439
<v Speaker 1>group was, but they were variety TV guys. I'm sure

0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:52.040
<v Speaker 1>he remembers a few of them. We let them use

0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:54.120
<v Speaker 1>the characters and stuff, and that probably wasn't the smartest

0:46:54.120 --> 0:46:57.200
<v Speaker 1>thing to do, but you learned from those experiences. I

0:46:57.200 --> 0:47:00.759
<v Speaker 1>think they even used some of the footage from the

0:47:00.800 --> 0:47:03.759
<v Speaker 1>movie at the end. It looks like some space, like

0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:08.480
<v Speaker 1>a highlight reel the Gang Well, and during the UM

0:47:08.560 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 1>it looked like some of the they had some insert

0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:14.520
<v Speaker 1>shots of like Imperial cruisers and Thai fighters and stuff that.

0:47:15.480 --> 0:47:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Remember when when Chewbacca like leans back and puts his

0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:21.400
<v Speaker 1>hands behind it, that's in there. It's it's like a

0:47:21.480 --> 0:47:23.680
<v Speaker 1>it's just a highlight reel from the movie. Saying like

0:47:23.800 --> 0:47:25.759
<v Speaker 1>I feel like this, go see the movie. Well, and

0:47:25.800 --> 0:47:28.360
<v Speaker 1>also that means it doesn't match the look of the

0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:30.040
<v Speaker 1>rest of it at all. Yeah, that's true. It's just

0:47:30.080 --> 0:47:34.040
<v Speaker 1>sort of inserted. They tried. They definitely tried UM, and

0:47:34.080 --> 0:47:36.319
<v Speaker 1>George Lucas is totally full of it because in nine

0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:40.120
<v Speaker 1>seven he told star Log magazine that the Christmas Special

0:47:40.120 --> 0:47:43.840
<v Speaker 1>would be out on video cassette very soon, and in

0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:46.279
<v Speaker 1>two thousand seven, two years after that quote, you just

0:47:46.320 --> 0:47:47.680
<v Speaker 1>read where he's like, I don't even know what you're

0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:53.120
<v Speaker 1>talking about. Basically UM. He apparently considered releasing the Christmas

0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Special as a bonus on the the DVDs of the

0:47:56.680 --> 0:48:01.240
<v Speaker 1>first three right, but did not it. And apparently Carrie

0:48:01.280 --> 0:48:03.399
<v Speaker 1>Fisher told Lucas that if you want me to do

0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:08.600
<v Speaker 1>UM DVD extras commentary commentary, then I want a clean

0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:13.200
<v Speaker 1>original copy of the Holiday special, So why go ahead

0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:15.239
<v Speaker 1>so I can play at parties when I want people

0:48:15.280 --> 0:48:20.239
<v Speaker 1>to leave. It's pretty great. It is so uh and

0:48:20.320 --> 0:48:22.920
<v Speaker 1>there is one of those clean copies is floating around

0:48:22.960 --> 0:48:24.920
<v Speaker 1>out there, so you can watch this in it in

0:48:24.960 --> 0:48:28.920
<v Speaker 1>its entirety. Some of it, like the cartoon, was removed

0:48:28.960 --> 0:48:31.399
<v Speaker 1>due to copyright infringement and that kind of stuff, but

0:48:32.120 --> 0:48:34.120
<v Speaker 1>as as the case with the rest of the Internet,

0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:36.480
<v Speaker 1>you can just go find it elsewhere and piece it together.

0:48:36.680 --> 0:48:41.880
<v Speaker 1>There's also the original ads that aired in Baltimore that

0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:46.319
<v Speaker 1>are just fascinating. Those are always fun gm ads where

0:48:46.360 --> 0:48:49.320
<v Speaker 1>one of the guys who's in quality control is he says,

0:48:49.640 --> 0:48:51.520
<v Speaker 1>did you watch it? I don't think I saw that.

0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:54.080
<v Speaker 1>He goes, um, we really care about these cars and

0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:57.719
<v Speaker 1>that's no job man, a GM man, and he's like,

0:48:57.800 --> 0:49:00.960
<v Speaker 1>it's serious. They're trying to be hip. Yeah. Um, it's

0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:05.120
<v Speaker 1>a pretty good stuff. Here's my final thought on it.

0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I love it. It does not taint my Star Wars

0:49:08.640 --> 0:49:11.920
<v Speaker 1>experience or my love for the franchise, and I'm glad

0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:15.440
<v Speaker 1>it is out there because it it's a it's a

0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:21.319
<v Speaker 1>fun little stain that shouldn't be taken too seriously. I

0:49:21.360 --> 0:49:24.800
<v Speaker 1>think it adds to it actually, because it's campy and awful,

0:49:25.480 --> 0:49:28.120
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know somehow that enriches the rest of it.

0:49:28.880 --> 0:49:31.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you. Do you like it? Oh? Yeah? I

0:49:31.400 --> 0:49:33.120
<v Speaker 1>mean I watched it twice. I wouldn't have watched it

0:49:33.160 --> 0:49:35.200
<v Speaker 1>a second I wouldn't have made it through the first time.

0:49:35.920 --> 0:49:38.279
<v Speaker 1>Let me take that back, as I'm a pro, so

0:49:38.320 --> 0:49:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I would have made it through the first time. I

0:49:39.640 --> 0:49:41.560
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have watched it a second time if I wasn't.

0:49:41.800 --> 0:49:43.880
<v Speaker 1>There wasn't something about it, and I figured out. I

0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:45.760
<v Speaker 1>think the thing that I like the most about it

0:49:45.800 --> 0:49:50.840
<v Speaker 1>is Lumpy, Chewbacca's son, played by an actress named Patty Maloney,

0:49:51.200 --> 0:49:54.680
<v Speaker 1>who frankly is hands down the best actor in the

0:49:54.840 --> 0:49:59.880
<v Speaker 1>entire thing. She like her responses and everything. It's just awesome.

0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:03.400
<v Speaker 1>I think my favorite parts are, uh, well, there's a

0:50:03.440 --> 0:50:07.880
<v Speaker 1>great Wilhelm scream trips over the law. Jerry would not

0:50:07.920 --> 0:50:11.360
<v Speaker 1>have noticed it. Uh And then there's a part where

0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:14.600
<v Speaker 1>all the wikie dialogue you can't understand, but there's clearly

0:50:14.640 --> 0:50:17.839
<v Speaker 1>one part where where Itchy and Lumpy are ha any

0:50:17.840 --> 0:50:21.560
<v Speaker 1>exchange where Lumpy you can make it out goes I

0:50:21.680 --> 0:50:24.680
<v Speaker 1>love you, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I noticed that, but it's

0:50:24.680 --> 0:50:27.200
<v Speaker 1>covered up. But someone was like, we have to have

0:50:27.239 --> 0:50:29.239
<v Speaker 1>at least one exchange where you sort of know what

0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:31.840
<v Speaker 1>they're saying, or they were like, I think she just

0:50:31.880 --> 0:50:33.880
<v Speaker 1>said I love you. Should we have them redo it?

0:50:33.960 --> 0:50:37.399
<v Speaker 1>And then directors like, no, I want to go and Chuck.

0:50:37.440 --> 0:50:39.440
<v Speaker 1>There's one other thing that I figured out from watching this.

0:50:40.200 --> 0:50:43.520
<v Speaker 1>It's not readily apparent. The whole thing is made all

0:50:43.560 --> 0:50:47.120
<v Speaker 1>the more odd, and that there's situation after situation after

0:50:47.200 --> 0:50:51.560
<v Speaker 1>situation where we as normal audiences, were trained to expect

0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:54.600
<v Speaker 1>the laugh track, but there's not a laugh track. Had

0:50:54.680 --> 0:50:57.560
<v Speaker 1>there been a laugh track, it what it might have

0:50:57.640 --> 0:51:02.280
<v Speaker 1>been less is are but the fact that it's missing

0:51:02.320 --> 0:51:05.480
<v Speaker 1>just makes your agitates the mind. So it's this whole

0:51:05.560 --> 0:51:08.239
<v Speaker 1>additional element that it is weird. I never thought about that.

0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:10.600
<v Speaker 1>There's just weird moments of silence all throughout it. YEA

0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:15.360
<v Speaker 1>like when Art Carney's doing his thing, Yeah, telling jokes. Yeah, okay,

0:51:15.440 --> 0:51:17.760
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you, Chuck. Don't take things too seriously.

0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:19.759
<v Speaker 1>I think that's the great lesson in this. Yeah, And

0:51:20.080 --> 0:51:22.799
<v Speaker 1>that's the lesson of life day it is and in

0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:27.319
<v Speaker 1>two thousand seven, Rift Tracks Great Mystery Science Theater. Three

0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:31.000
<v Speaker 1>thousand guys Mike Nelson, Bill Corbett, and Kevin Murphy. Uh

0:51:31.320 --> 0:51:34.040
<v Speaker 1>provided audio commentary for the full version of the special.

0:51:34.719 --> 0:51:37.120
<v Speaker 1>So try and go grab that if you can as well.

0:51:37.160 --> 0:51:38.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh you can't. It's on the site because it's great.

0:51:38.800 --> 0:51:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I think it's like eight bucks and those guys are awesome,

0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:46.600
<v Speaker 1>and you are at least I think Corbett listens to us. So, hey, Corbett,

0:51:48.560 --> 0:51:52.640
<v Speaker 1>you got anything else? No, No, I think we did this.

0:51:53.280 --> 0:51:55.680
<v Speaker 1>There's some good stuff. Go read the Vanity Fair article.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Han Solo Comedy Hour. There's a book called How

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