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Speaker 1: Hello everybody. It's that time of year again for our

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Speaker 1: new annual tradition. This is the second year we're doing it,

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Speaker 1: of releasing our episode on the horrible, Terrible Star Wars

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Speaker 1: Christmas Special. By goodness, I am making this a holiday

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Speaker 1: tradition and I'm cramming it into our s y s

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Speaker 1: K Selects feed yet again. So enjoy getting the Christmas spirit.

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Speaker 1: Happy life day, everybody. Welcome to Stuff you should know

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Speaker 1: from how Stuff Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with Charles W. Chuckers Bryant

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Speaker 1: and Jerry Jerome Roland. Uh. Who's the Wookie mother? Yeah? Mala?

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Speaker 1: That was the Wookie wife. Oh and mother? Yeah? Sure,

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Speaker 1: Chewbacca's momb is not with them Anymonger she left, she

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Speaker 1: was not about to appear in that. She went out

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Speaker 1: the window. I'm excited about this. I have to say

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Speaker 1: we should say Happy Star Wars Day. Yeah. Today is

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Speaker 1: um December. Um, I have my opening night tickets? Do

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Speaker 1: you really sure? Wow? You know? I do you into it? Oh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well I will definitely go see it in the theater,

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Speaker 1: but um, why won't be the opening night? Sure? I've

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Speaker 1: gotten really adept at like, ignoring spoilers, people talking about

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Speaker 1: stuff all like, so I can I could conceivably see

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Speaker 1: this movie a month after it comes out and still

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Speaker 1: going fresh. It's I'm an ostrich. Yeah you black yourself out, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you go dark? Do I make myself go to sleep face?

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Speaker 1: You go to the dark side. I've been there a

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Speaker 1: while now. Uh well, Happy Star Wars Day though, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure that I think this pairs nicely with Christmas Star

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Speaker 1: Wars Day. It's all come together. Yes, Um, we already

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Speaker 1: missed Life Day though, so happy belated Life Day. Are

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Speaker 1: they celebrating it this year? November? Yeah? But it's every

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Speaker 1: three years? Mm hmm our cane man job. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: it's every three years. Started in nineteen seventy eight. Let's

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Speaker 1: do the math, shall we? Mm hmmm, quick math break.

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Speaker 1: I believe that two thousand fourteen was the last Life Day.

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Speaker 1: May we just missed and then again in twenty seventeen. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so seventeen we'll celebrate Life Day. We'll put on our

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Speaker 1: red robes, are ultralong, straight ironed wigs, and we'll celebrate

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Speaker 1: Life Day the way it was meant to. Yes, And

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Speaker 1: if you have no idea what we're talking about We

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Speaker 1: are talking about Life Day, which is a celebration, uh

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Speaker 1: that Wookies in the Star Wars universe have every three years. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like their Christmas or the Kanza, their tent supposedly

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Speaker 1: they also give gifts. They're like the Finns basically. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a very interesting part of the Star

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Speaker 1: in the seventies, um, And it's the basis of what

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Speaker 1: is become derided as like one of the worst things

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Speaker 1: I watched it, uh when I was a kid. Then

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Speaker 1: just how absurd it can get. Almost Yeah, and it

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Speaker 1: may even enjoy this episode more if you pause, go

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Speaker 1: and the wealthy have saved us all again yet again,

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Speaker 1: as they always do. Uh. We need to shout out

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Speaker 1: some articles that we use for this. There's great a

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Speaker 1: Our exclamation Point by Frank did Jacomo. And then there's

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Speaker 1: the Star Wars Holiday Special was the worst thing on

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Speaker 1: this one chuck. Uh, yeah, it's the titles the Star

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Speaker 1: Uh so what has happened is Star Wars has become

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Speaker 1: Even though it in his first movie, it was his first, huge,

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Speaker 1: a hammer um and a new hope. By the way, yes,

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Speaker 1: and then then we're going to get stuff wrong, nerds,

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Speaker 1: So yes, just go ahead and get your little fingers

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Speaker 1: Why don't you let us let's get together and do

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Speaker 1: haunt you, George Lucas to his grave. Yeah, so Lucas said,

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Speaker 1: let's make this a variety show. Yeah. And there was

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Speaker 1: a little bit of um background there. The cantina players

421
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: in the band had appeared on other variety shows at

422
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: that point, and I think it went over fairly well,

423
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: just as a short segment on like the Richard Pryor

424
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: Variety Show or Donnie Marie um Man. There were a

425
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: lot of variety shows. But that's what I'm saying. It

426
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 1: was that was television. That's what you did, like the breaks,

427
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: um the The show had its course, and then it

428
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 1: became a variety show. It was just everybody love variety shows.

429
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: By this time, though, everybody was sick of variety shows

430
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: and so it really was a terrible choice. In fact,

431
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: they even hired a couple of writers from Shields and Yarnell,

432
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: which I hadn't heard of. Oh yeah, I watched it.

433
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 1: It was creepy, this mind couple who had their own

434
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: variety show, and they figured these two will be great

435
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 1: because they are used to working without words, right, So,

436
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: and so there is a certain logic to the variety show.

437
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 1: It's not that's just that variety shows were popular at

438
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 1: the time. Somebody was like, well, Wookie's you don't understand

439
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: what they're saying. So this is all going to be

440
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: very physical. So these people who who did what is

441
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: it shields in yard? Now, yeah, that that's a perfect choice.

442
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: That that makes complete sense. You can see this whole

443
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: this whole process of leading up to the point where

444
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: it was produced and shot and everything a series of like, oh,

445
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 1: we have this problem, Well here's a fix, but that

446
00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: leads to another problem. Well we'll fix it with the

447
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: and and no one stepping back and being like, all

448
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 1: we've done is create a series of problems that are

449
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: going to come together and make one extraordinarily large problem

450
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: that will become legendary. No one did that, And so

451
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: the whole thing was was made. That's right. And it

452
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: eventually airs on November seventeen, nineteen seventy eight, a Friday,

453
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: at eight pm Eastern time. That's right, and Nielsen ratings

454
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: it um attracted thirteen million viewers just the second hour

455
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: just in the US. It aired in six or seven

456
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: countries total. Yeah, but no one cares about that, I

457
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: guess not because none of those are on the internet,

458
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: you know. Uh. It finished second to the Love Boat

459
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: in the second I'm sorry from eight to nine, and

460
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: in the next hour actually finished behind part two of

461
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: a mini series about Pearl Harbor starring Angie Dickinson. So

462
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: it didn't even win their respective hours. No, thirteen million,

463
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: that's that's not bad. The thing is, apparently if you

464
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 1: look at the Nielsen ratings graph for the first hour,

465
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: Yeah we know about that graphic. It's okay, yeah, we do.

466
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: And then after a very important part, which we'll talk

467
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: about soon. Um, it just drops off at the end

468
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: of the first hour, and that actually probably made the

469
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: executives at CBS cringe for a number of reasons. Number

470
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: one is this special was originally supposed to just be

471
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: an hour, but so many advertisers wanted to sign on

472
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: that they extended it to two hours. And it shines

473
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: through you can totally tell that this thing was never

474
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: supposed to I think an hour might have been stretching it.

475
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: To tell you the truth, it's thirty minutes of content,

476
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: forty if you're generous an hour and then two hours,

477
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: it becomes one of the worst things that was ever

478
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: put on television. All right, well, let's take a break

479
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: and then we'll talk a little bit more about the

480
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: actual um uh, even I don't want to call it content,

481
00:28:55,440 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: but it is content in the strictest definitions. Right after this, sorry, George. Alright,

482
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: So the show itself, we've given you the main plot line,

483
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: which again is that Chewy is trying to get back

484
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,719
Speaker 1: to his home planet to celebrate life Day with his family. Right,

485
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: that's it, And again we almost barely see Chewy. H

486
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: The rest is his family on because waiting for him

487
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: to come back for a life Day. Yeah. So, um.

488
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: Some of the various things they did, they were guest stars.

489
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: There was Harvey Corman from The Carol Burnett Show, one

490
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: of my all time favorites him or Carol Carol Burnett

491
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: Show both. He's great. Yeah, he actually if you watch

492
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: what he's doing, you're like, this is comedy genius. For apparently,

493
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: he too was like the only one on set that

494
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: was bringing levity. He was joking around and kind of

495
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: kept spirits up. Good for him, that's what I say.

496
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: And he had three, three different parts. Yeah, he played

497
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: uh uh well, I don't even know the names. Actually

498
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: we could look him up, but he played a He

499
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: played a Julia child like cook. There's an actual cooking segment,

500
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: a long one, a very long cooking segment where Chewbacca's

501
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: wife Um makes Banta stew to kill some time, to

502
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: kill some time because there was waiting on her planet

503
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: and in our living room. Yeah, so Harvey Corman is

504
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: in drag is a foe armed Julia childlike uh TV

505
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: chef and I think it's Gormanda. Is her name Gormanda?

506
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: That makes total sense. He also plays Um. There's this

507
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: one weird bit where Chewbacca's son tries to figure out

508
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: a way to trick the stormtroopers that the Empire had

509
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: come and kind of because the blockade raided the house

510
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: and other properties. He tries to trick them by I think,

511
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: rigging a calm link to speak in a different voice.

512
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: So he has to watch the instruction manual. He watches

513
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: an instruction video which was Harvey Kitel as a robot. Oh,

514
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: it would have been wonderful of big Harvey Kitel. Harvey

515
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: Carvey Corman, Oh man ha murders someone in the middle

516
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: of the instruction Harvey Corman. And then the final role

517
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: he had was as a a bar patron in the

518
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: cantina that drinks. He has a hole in the top

519
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: of his head like a volcano, where he pours his

520
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: drinks in. That's how he drinks. And he he loves

521
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: b Arthur. Did we mention be Arthur was in it?

522
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: B Arthur is not only in it, Chuck. She sings

523
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: a song. She does. She is thennownst to everyone, she

524
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: manages or maybe owns the owner. Yeah, the what's the mos?

525
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: What mos deaf cantina? Uh? No, most deaf is a rapper.

526
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think you mean Moss Eisley. Yes, yes,

527
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: that cantina. She's the owner. Be Arthur is the owner,

528
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: the author of the Golden Girls, but in this case,

529
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: the Arthur of Maud, because, as one of the people

530
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: who wrote one of the articles we based this on

531
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: points out, she's just basically playing Maud as the owner

532
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: of the cantina. Yeah, and her song comes because um,

533
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: they basically say, there's a lockdown, so you gotta call

534
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: last call um at your bar. So she calls last

535
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: call by singing a song to everyone, right, and again,

536
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: we can't possibly have the script lead anywhere else but

537
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: Chewbacca's house while his family waits for it. So all

538
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: this takes place as part of a public service announcement

539
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: basically broadcast by the Empire about how immoral life on

540
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: tattooing is. So let's go see what's going on in

541
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: the mas Eisley Cantina as it's being shut down for curfew. Alright,

542
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: this is incomprehensible, but it goes on. Um, so they're

543
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: in it. There's also Art Carney, Yes, the Honeymooners family,

544
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: the star of the whole thing. Really, he has the

545
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: most lines, I would say, the most comprehensible line. Right.

546
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: So he plays a trader, a human trader um that is,

547
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,479
Speaker 1: uh recently been with Han Solo and Chewy and actually

548
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: gets to Kazuk and says they're on the way. It's

549
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: all good. Yeah, a trader, not trade tour. Yeah, traders

550
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: in trades humans for you know money. No, he he

551
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: sells goods. Yeah, a trader. He doesn't trade humans. Yeah,

552
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: he's in the human trade. He No, he isn't. Really

553
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: he trades humans like he sells humans. I looked it

554
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: up in the Star Wars Encyclopedia said that he was

555
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: in the human trade. Huh, So in this Christmas special,

556
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: apparently they sanitized his his background because he's basically just

557
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: selling like gadgets and novelties and stuff like that to

558
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: the Wookies and the Empire who were occupying the area. Yes,

559
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: he comes bearing gifts because he's a friend of Chewbacca's family. Yeah,

560
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: so he comes bearing gifts. One of the gifts he

561
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 1: gives is a UM sort of like a little digital

562
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: insert to a Oh, I guess you would call it

563
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: a virtual reality hair dryer hair dryer, like a beauty

564
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 1: shop hair dryer. Right. He gives it to Grandpa Itchy.

565
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: Grandpa Itchy um sits under this hair dryer pops in

566
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: this uh digital cassette, and it can only be described

567
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: as softcore porn. Apparently the writers who were interviewed for

568
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: this said that was totally the intent. They were trying

569
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 1: to get what amounted to softcore porn that would pass

570
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: the sensors. So it's all m You can't even say

571
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: it's innuendo. It's too obvious in overt for innuendo. Instead,

572
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: it's just it's just it's just gross. It's really gross. Um,

573
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: Diane Carroll singer, Yes she is, Um, a Vegas staple,

574
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: shows up and starts basically tantalizing. Um. Grandpa Itchy, who again,

575
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: this is Chewbacca's elderly father who now engages in some

576
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 1: sort of well he's he's watching virtual reality pornography now,

577
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: and this is a pretty lengthy segment in and of itself.

578
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and she literally says to him like, now

579
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: I can see you're really excited. Yeah, it's pretty rough

580
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 1: to watch. Yeah, so then you've got another musical number

581
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: because also again he shutters, yeah, it's really strange. All right,

582
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: So there's also ah, I know, it seems like we're

583
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: jumping around, but it's it's so mind blowing, not like

584
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: this is pretty much like blow for blow. Um. Actually

585
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: I forgot earlier on in in the in the special, Um,

586
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: there's one of my favorite sequences is when Grandpa Itchy

587
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: goes over to Lumpy and basically sets up remember the

588
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 1: the hologram chessboard that they played in A New Hope,

589
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: basically kind of sets that up and says, here, just

590
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: play this. He pushes the button, which is clearly a

591
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: nineteen seventies cassette recorder and another Uh, like it's like

592
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: a Cirque de sol acid trip um gymnast routine happens

593
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: in front of the kid's eyes. And again this all

594
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: just it's not like it shows a snippet. They showed

595
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 1: the entire segments, like five six minutes long of all

596
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: of these things. So you would think, Okay, they've gone

597
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: to this hologram, well a couple of times, why not

598
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: go to it again? Well they do. They do to

599
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: kill more time. While the Imperial Guard is ransacking their house. Um,

600
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: Art Carney apparently, I guess it's trying to get one

601
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: of the Imperial Guard, the leader I think, or one

602
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: of the leaders who looks like somebody from Spaceballs by

603
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: the way, very much so. Um. And the writer of

604
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 1: the Vanity Fair article, by the way said, um, this,

605
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: this is so incomprehensible. This sechelis George Lucas didn't even

606
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: have the Schwartz with him at the time. So anyway,

607
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: our Carney's distracting this uh imperial leader. Um, while they're

608
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: ransacking the Wookie's house, Chewbacca's house with a hologram, and

609
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: this hologram instead of being an acrobat or Diane Carroll

610
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: or any kind of porn or anything like that is

611
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 1: Jefferson Starship, and they decide that they're going to play

612
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: Light the Sky on Fire, which apparently is about UFOs.

613
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 1: It's a little music video. Basically, it's a pretty Yeah,

614
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,479
Speaker 1: it's the predecessor to like video kill the radio Starr

615
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 1: you can tell um. And again it is the whole

616
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: lengthy song, the whole thing. So every time that somebody's

617
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: like we need to escape mentally from what's going on

618
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 1: here in our house, let's go into the video world,

619
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: it's not just and they don't cut back and forth.

620
00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: It's okay, here's five minutes of Jefferson stars of performing

621
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: this song. Yeah, and even the Jefferson Starship guys um

622
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, that's sort of a weird trip, Like

623
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: we didn't get it, but we did it right. They

624
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: gave us some money and some cocaine. Well probably, so

625
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: we said, yeah, chuck. I think though, um, there yet

626
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: another segment like this is actually widely regarded as the

627
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: high point of the whole thing. So there is a

628
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 1: cartoon actually yeah that Lump Lumpy watches Yeah Lump, He's

629
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: like the Imperial Guard is still ransacking my house. I

630
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: think I'll entertain myself by watching a cartoon on my

631
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: little Um, I don't know what. I guess it was

632
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: an iPad and uh, he watches this cartoon and it's

633
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: it's actually remarkable for a number of reasons. It's the

634
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: best part of the whole special generally agreed upon as such,

635
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: not just us. And it introduces Boba Fett. It's the

636
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: first time Boba Fett ever makes an appearance in the

637
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: Star Wars universe. Yeah, it's actually not a bad And

638
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: you can't find it in the the one version I

639
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: told you to watch. They removed it for copyright. But

640
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: he didn't watch a separate version, right, you can find

641
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: it on its own. Yeah, and it's um, it's very

642
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: much reminiscent of like the cartoon style of the day,

643
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: like a he Man or something even even but it's

644
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: even a little more artsy than that. Yeah. But it

645
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: does have a plot that you can follow that makes

646
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: sense as a Star Wars thing, and it introduces Boba Fette,

647
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: like you said, And um, it's actually not bad. It's

648
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: like Luke and R two and C three p O. Yeah,

649
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: and they're like they crash on a planet or something. Yeah.

650
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: And Han and Chewarry You're in it, and it's the

651
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: first time we see in Darth Vader. It's the first

652
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: time we see Boba Fette and that he is, uh,

653
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,479
Speaker 1: that he is just doing whatever he can do for money,

654
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: Like Luke trusts him at first. C three b I

655
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 1: was like, you sure you should trust him this quick?

656
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: And he's like, oh three p o you and your

657
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: non trusting ways. And then it turns out he's selling

658
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: them out to the dark side. So it's it's basically

659
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: Boba Fett is an allegory for George Lucas himself. Um,

660
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: So the cartoon comes and goes, and that was the

661
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: thing that came at about the end of the first

662
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: hour mark and after that everybody just turned off their

663
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 1: television sets. Yeah, I don't remember. Did you watch this

664
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: when it came up? Yeah? I remember watching it, but

665
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: I don't remember much about it, like if I made

666
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: it through it all. I mean it was I was

667
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: seven and it was on until ten, so I probably

668
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: didn't make it through it all. Um, you're probably disturbed.

669
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: Who knows. I just remember that. I have to ask

670
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: my brother. He might have a memory of this. Oh,

671
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 1: Betty does, I'm sure he met everybody afterwards or something

672
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: like that. You know, it has a picture. Well, he

673
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: was ten at that point, so cynicism had, you know,

674
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 1: become a thing in his life probably by then, didn't

675
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: that When cynicism kicks into he'scott holding out the fourteen

676
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 1: fifteen Yeah maybe so so um chuck, the whole thing

677
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: finally does in. And actually there's a guy, his name

678
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: is Nathan Raban, he writes over at the A V Club.

679
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: He had a great quote. He basically said that one

680
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 1: of the great redeeming values of this um, this special

681
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: is that it does eventually end. Yeah, you know what

682
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: the first part of the quote is, I'm not convinced

683
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: the special wasn't ultimately written and directed by a sentient

684
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 1: bag of cocaine. And like, go read his his review

685
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: of the Star Wars Holiday Special, because he goes on

686
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: to describe exactly what that must have been, like the

687
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: development meeting where the bag of cocaine is pacing back

688
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: and forth talking about what should happen. That's what it

689
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: feels like. But it doesn't, and it ends even more.

690
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: It takes this bizarre two hours and wraps it up

691
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: in just a nice bizarre bow. Yeah. So what happens

692
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: is eventually Han Solo should we say spoiler alert. Eventually

693
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: Han Solo and Chewy make it to the planet. They

694
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: park on the far side of the planet because they

695
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: know the uh the Imperial forces are there and the

696
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: exercise will do Chewy good, so they have to hike

697
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: over there. They eventually make it back home. Uh, they

698
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: find a storm the stormtroopers at their house. Um, their

699
00:41:56,040 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: tree hut. Yeah, which by the paintings that set this up,

700
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: I don't think we mentioned I don't even call him

701
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: Matt paintings that it looks like someone painted something on

702
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: the wall and they just like put a camera in

703
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: front of it pretty much. Yeah. So they get back

704
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 1: and um, Chewbacca, Han Solo hides around the corner of

705
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 1: Chewbacca steps in front of his son to protect him.

706
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: Han Solo jumps out, and the stormtrooper trips over a

707
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: pile of logs and falls over the balcony and dies

708
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: in a holiday special. So they wouldn't even not only

709
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 1: could he not shoot first with Grido, but they couldn't

710
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: even have him like wrestle the storm trooper and throw

711
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: him off. He trips over a log and Han Solo

712
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: has his hands thrown up like wasn't me? It might

713
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: also been a banana peel, you know, But again, uh,

714
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: this is basically produced by vaudevillians starring vaudevillians. Why not

715
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: have the one death take place from basically what it

716
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: mounts to somebody slipping on a banana peel? Exactly. It's

717
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: a perfect way to end it. So that's uh that

718
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: that guy basically represents the end of the Imperial threat

719
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: for the rest of Life Day. And um, we we

720
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: then see Life Day being celebrated, which is celebrated by

721
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: lots of wookies assembling in what looks like a giant

722
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 1: Olan Mills portrait. Um, and all of them are wearing

723
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: red robes. And I know I'm up talking, and it's

724
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: because my mind is still having trouble like wrapping around this.

725
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: And then um, Princess Leia comes out with C three

726
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: P O is Mark Hamill there, the whole gang zero

727
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,439
Speaker 1: from okay, the whole gangs there, And then they all

728
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 1: gather around to hear a great quote from Princess Leiah,

729
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: which we will read um verbatim. This holiday is yours,

730
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: but we all share with you the hope that this

731
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: day brings us closer to freedom, into harmony, into peace.

732
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: No matter how different we appear, we're all the same

733
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: in our struggle against the powers of evil and darkness.

734
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: I hope that this day will always be a day

735
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: of joy in which we can reconfirm our dedication and

736
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: our courage, and more than anything else, our love for

737
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: one another. This is the promise of the Tree of

738
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: Life que song, right, And we should also point out

739
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 1: the tree of Life has never been mentioned up to

740
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 1: this point. Takes a sudden appearance at the end. And

741
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: when you said que song, by que song, you mean

742
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: Princess Leiah starts singing. Yeah. And apparently that was one

743
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: of the big contingencies on Carrie Fisher being involved. She's

744
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: going through a phase where she was like, I kind

745
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: of like singing. Bruce Valanche calls it her Joni Mitchell period. Yeah,

746
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: and she somehow convinced them to let her sing as

747
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: Princess Leiah. And she does. And again I've said that

748
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: she looks like she's on drugs. This is the point

749
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: where she really does look like she's on drugs. And

750
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 1: it's not just me Um other writers who have written

751
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: reviews of this, it's really obvious that she possibly smoked

752
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: a decent amount of pot before she shot this shot

753
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: this scene, but she sings, Oh, okay, it's fine. It's

754
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: just the fact that um, Princess Leigh is singing. And actually,

755
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: Bruce Valanche had a really great quote too. He says that, um,

756
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: she very much wanted to show this side of her talent,

757
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: and there was general dismay because this was not what

758
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 1: we wanted Princess Leia to be doing. She did it anyway.

759
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: So the whole thing ends with her singing this song

760
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: about life day, which is set loosely to the John

761
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: Williams Star Wars theme. Uh. So along the way, the

762
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: director original director quit, A new director, Steve Binder, was

763
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: hired to finish the job and bring it in. Uh.

764
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 1: And he did over the original one million dollar budget,

765
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 1: of course always Uh, he did bring it in and

766
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: um at this point George Lucas had uh. He was

767
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: he was working on Empire Strikes Back. He didn't know

768
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: what was going on. He wasn't around for the shoot. No,

769
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: it wasn't until it aired. I think that he actually

770
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: saw it. Yes, and it was a havsty obviously, if

771
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: you haven't noticed that by now, critics hated it. Star

772
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: Wars fans really hated it. Everybody hate The people who

773
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: were in it hated it. Lucas hated it. Even Harvey

774
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: Corman secretly hated it. Even Harvey Kitel hated Actually he

775
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: loved it. But Lucas has been asked over the years

776
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: about it a lot, and he doesn't talk about it much.

777
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: But in two thousand five, and I don't buy this

778
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: for a second. He says, um it was an interview

779
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: he said special from I really didn't have much to

780
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: do with us. You know that part is true. I

781
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: can't remember what network it was even on, but it

782
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: was a thing that they did. That's a lie. There's

783
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: no way he doesn't know that was cvt uh. We

784
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: kind of just let them do it. I believe that

785
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: it was done by I can't even remember who the

786
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 1: group was, but they were variety TV guys. I'm sure

787
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: he remembers a few of them. We let them use

788
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: the characters and stuff, and that probably wasn't the smartest

789
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: thing to do, but you learned from those experiences. I

790
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: think they even used some of the footage from the

791
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: movie at the end. It looks like some space, like

792
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: a highlight reel the Gang Well, and during the UM

793
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: it looked like some of the they had some insert

794
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: shots of like Imperial cruisers and Thai fighters and stuff that.

795
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: Remember when when Chewbacca like leans back and puts his

796
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: hands behind it, that's in there. It's it's like a

797
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: it's just a highlight reel from the movie. Saying like

798
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: I feel like this, go see the movie. Well, and

799
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: also that means it doesn't match the look of the

800
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: rest of it at all. Yeah, that's true. It's just

801
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: sort of inserted. They tried. They definitely tried UM, and

802
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: George Lucas is totally full of it because in nine

803
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: seven he told star Log magazine that the Christmas Special

804
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: would be out on video cassette very soon, and in

805
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: two thousand seven, two years after that quote, you just

806
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: read where he's like, I don't even know what you're

807
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: talking about. Basically UM. He apparently considered releasing the Christmas

808
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: Special as a bonus on the the DVDs of the

809
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 1: first three right, but did not it. And apparently Carrie

810
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 1: Fisher told Lucas that if you want me to do

811
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: UM DVD extras commentary commentary, then I want a clean

812
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: original copy of the Holiday special, So why go ahead

813
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: so I can play at parties when I want people

814
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: to leave. It's pretty great. It is so uh and

815
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: there is one of those clean copies is floating around

816
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: out there, so you can watch this in it in

817
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: its entirety. Some of it, like the cartoon, was removed

818
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 1: due to copyright infringement and that kind of stuff, but

819
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: as as the case with the rest of the Internet,

820
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: you can just go find it elsewhere and piece it together.

821
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: There's also the original ads that aired in Baltimore that

822
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: are just fascinating. Those are always fun gm ads where

823
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: one of the guys who's in quality control is he says,

824
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: did you watch it? I don't think I saw that.

825
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: He goes, um, we really care about these cars and

826
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: that's no job man, a GM man, and he's like,

827
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: it's serious. They're trying to be hip. Yeah. Um, it's

828
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: a pretty good stuff. Here's my final thought on it.

829
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: I love it. It does not taint my Star Wars

830
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: experience or my love for the franchise, and I'm glad

831
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: it is out there because it it's a it's a

832
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: fun little stain that shouldn't be taken too seriously. I

833
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 1: think it adds to it actually, because it's campy and awful,

834
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: and I don't know somehow that enriches the rest of it.

835
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Do you like it? Oh? Yeah? I

836
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: mean I watched it twice. I wouldn't have watched it

837
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: a second I wouldn't have made it through the first time.

838
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: Let me take that back, as I'm a pro, so

839
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: I would have made it through the first time. I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have watched it a second time if I wasn't.

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Speaker 1: There wasn't something about it, and I figured out. I

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Speaker 1: who frankly is hands down the best actor in the

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Speaker 1: entire thing. She like her responses and everything. It's just awesome.

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Speaker 1: I think my favorite parts are, uh, well, there's a

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Speaker 1: great Wilhelm scream trips over the law. Jerry would not

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Speaker 1: exchange where Lumpy you can make it out goes I

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Speaker 1: love you, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I noticed that, but it's

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Speaker 1: covered up. But someone was like, we have to have

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Speaker 1: And then directors like, no, I want to go and Chuck.

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Speaker 1: There's one other thing that I figured out from watching this.

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Speaker 1: It's not readily apparent. The whole thing is made all

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Speaker 1: situation where we as normal audiences, were trained to expect

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Speaker 1: the laugh track, but there's not a laugh track. Had

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Speaker 1: there been a laugh track, it what it might have

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Speaker 1: additional element that it is weird. I never thought about that.

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Speaker 1: There's just weird moments of silence all throughout it. YEA

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Speaker 1: like when Art Carney's doing his thing, Yeah, telling jokes. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, Chuck. Don't take things too seriously.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the great lesson in this. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: that's the lesson of life day it is and in

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Speaker 1: two thousand seven, Rift Tracks Great Mystery Science Theater. Three

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Speaker 1: So try and go grab that if you can as well.

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Speaker 1: Oh you can't. It's on the site because it's great.

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Speaker 1: I think it's like eight bucks and those guys are awesome,

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Speaker 1: and you are at least I think Corbett listens to us. So, hey, Corbett,

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Speaker 1: you got anything else? No, No, I think we did this.

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Speaker 1: There's some good stuff. Go read the Vanity Fair article.

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Speaker 1: Uh Han Solo Comedy Hour. There's a book called How

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