WEBVTT - HR2: Hard Knocks

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<v Speaker 1>At least, is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly, he is the Matt

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<v Speaker 3>You get that's not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 4>That happens.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyways, Matt, it's time now to get to the

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<v Speaker 2>fantasy football focus. This being Wednesday, let's take a look

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<v Speaker 2>at who is in who is out this week thus

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<v Speaker 2>far in practices. Trent Williams with an ankle injury, sidelined

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<v Speaker 2>on Wednesday, and they're a mess right now. Off the field,

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<v Speaker 2>he deal with some stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that team in general just feels curts this year a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little bit, Yeah, a little bit. Both Darnell Mooney and

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<v Speaker 2>Drake London this week. Mooney has an achilles and slash

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<v Speaker 2>rest did not participate in practice today. Drake London was

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<v Speaker 2>limited in practice today for Atlanta Falcons.

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<v Speaker 3>And again, folks, just like we opened the first hour,

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<v Speaker 3>this is Wednesday and people are getting rested even more

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<v Speaker 3>than earlier in the season. Don't go crazy, but be

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<v Speaker 3>aware of this stuff. I think her cousin is.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to get bad eventually they fall out of this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I think he's a game war too

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<v Speaker 3>from getting the act.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not that long ago from when people were saying

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<v Speaker 2>the Steelers should have signed Kirk Cousins instead of Russell Wilson.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm not certain he's even gonna be an NFL

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<v Speaker 3>starter next year.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been pretty bad. He does not want to get

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<v Speaker 2>hit at all.

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<v Speaker 3>No, he doesn't protect himself. Well, I mean, he makes

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<v Speaker 3>really bad decisions. I think he could end up being

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<v Speaker 3>like a Flacco was a number two or something along

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<v Speaker 3>those lines. Like if I'm the Giants Raiders, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Uh. Baker Mayfield dealing with an achilles and a knee.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a full participant in practice on Wednesday, but

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<v Speaker 2>that you never like to hear that achilles thing.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I was shocked when Mooney had an achilles. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>Achilles is usually out, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>how do you soreness?

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<v Speaker 2>I used to have to deal with that when I

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<v Speaker 2>was still playing basketball into my thirties, even late thirties,

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<v Speaker 2>like three or four times a week, my achilles would

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<v Speaker 2>just be killing me. And I kept waiting for that

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<v Speaker 2>day when it just went and rolled up and I'm like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Does that mean there's like a tiny partial tear there?

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<v Speaker 2>Just I don't know. It was just general soreness and

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<v Speaker 2>then in that achilles, and you know, I'd take a

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<v Speaker 2>week off and it would feel better, and then I'd

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<v Speaker 2>go back and play, and you know, two weeks later,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's hurting again. It's just not good.

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<v Speaker 3>People can't see this at home, but Justin, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>an achilles is it'll snap and all the way up

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<v Speaker 3>in the back of your leg.

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<v Speaker 2>Justin doesn't like that.

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<v Speaker 3>He's gonna pass out. He was saying this going up, Yeah, Achilles,

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<v Speaker 3>give him the willies. Yeah he's over there and wincing

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<v Speaker 3>thinking about Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Bucky Irving hip and back issues mispractice on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a superstar for fantasy, right, Yeah. I mean he's

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<v Speaker 3>getting all the touches. He's even taken Rashard White's stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that's great signs.

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<v Speaker 2>If he doesn't play a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Of touches last week, yeah, he'll probably just rest.

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<v Speaker 2>But if he doesn't play White, they're both.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, useful at that point. I don't think they

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<v Speaker 3>want to give White a ton of carries between the

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<v Speaker 3>tackle stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Tristian Wurf's with the foot and knee on any big practice, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, so they're they're a little banged up.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Trent Williams. I mean, it's a difference. He's one

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<v Speaker 3>of the tackles you got to mention in the FANI.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a big game for them this week, or

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<v Speaker 2>Tampa's they have. I forget who they have this week,

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<v Speaker 2>but was somebody they should beat. They have a very

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<v Speaker 2>easy rested Atlanta's at Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and Atlanta beat them twice head to head, so

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<v Speaker 3>they have to get one game up and just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of looking ahead at the schedule, I think they got

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<v Speaker 3>a pretty decent chance to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Evans hamstring and calf didn't practice on Wednesday, who

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<v Speaker 2>did practice for them.

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<v Speaker 3>I no one practice for the Steelers either.

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<v Speaker 2>But these are all injuries though, these are right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Alexander Madison with an ankle limited on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, is Abdullah the one? Do we know that at

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<v Speaker 3>this point? Hmmm?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, Sincere they're gonna get a bomb. They signed Sincere

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<v Speaker 2>McCormick to their active roster. He was on their practice

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<v Speaker 2>squad and they elevated and they said, we can't do

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<v Speaker 2>that because somebody's going to probably try to sign him

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<v Speaker 2>off of that, So they signed him to the active roster.

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<v Speaker 2>Zamir White with a quad also didn't practice today.

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<v Speaker 3>He had He's had a really bad year. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if he'd even get back in the mix.

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<v Speaker 3>So it might be McCormick. It might be McCormick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a dart throw if you go to Blank's

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<v Speaker 2>mode THEFS Uh yeah, yeah, but maybe we should look

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<v Speaker 2>in the raided running back stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we picked the squad.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh Jyr Alexander. They play Thursday night. He was ruled

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<v Speaker 2>out for that Week fourteen game against Detroit.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, their defense has been okay, I mean the pass

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<v Speaker 3>rush hasn't been great. Alexander's obviously a difference maker, huge game.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Romeo Dobbs also rolled out for that game with a concussion.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I mean, I'm not wishing a concussion on anyone,

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<v Speaker 3>but it does help clarify the receiver situation a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit when one of them is out of the mix.

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<v Speaker 2>On the plus side of that, for Green Bay, Josh

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<v Speaker 2>Jacobs with the calf injury off the injury report.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, And folks, just so you know, I mean the

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<v Speaker 3>Lions and Packers, this is not a short week for them.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a full week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they played basically, Yeah, they both played Thanksgiving, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's not social.

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<v Speaker 3>Makers did some good stuff there.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh. Foster Moreau with a shoulder injury limited on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 2>The only reason I mentioned is that Taysom Hill is out. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so maybe Foster gets a couple of catches. I doubt it.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe. I mean, I'm sure he'll be out there in

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<v Speaker 3>twelve personnel. Yeah, I wouldn't get too excited about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Kendrey Miller.

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<v Speaker 3>The other tight end there though, is Yeah there's a chance.

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<v Speaker 2>Juwan Johnson, but he was limited today.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know there's something with him too.

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<v Speaker 2>Kendrey Miller practiced in full on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's on IR or they just pulled him

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<v Speaker 3>off for.

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<v Speaker 2>About They just recently designated him to return, so this

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<v Speaker 2>was a full practice and he's been designated in return,

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<v Speaker 2>so he could I could see them wanting to get

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<v Speaker 2>a look at him.

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<v Speaker 3>And he had something you need to know, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like he might be a good guy for like your

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<v Speaker 3>your super Bowl, Like you really need to run Kamar

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<v Speaker 3>into the ground in week seventeen and eighteen of the

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<v Speaker 3>season if you're the same, that's right, I mean, so,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you get a good look at Miller. See

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<v Speaker 3>if you need a draft one or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Bob means officially limited on Wednesday with an ankle. He's

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<v Speaker 2>also been out for several weeks. He was also designated

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<v Speaker 2>to return, so it doesn't look as positive for him,

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<v Speaker 2>but they need another receiver and.

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<v Speaker 3>Say their skill position stuff is a messy.

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<v Speaker 2>Prior to getting hurt, he was actually starting.

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<v Speaker 6>To do it well.

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<v Speaker 2>He looked pretty good. Yeah, did some stuff. Yeah, as

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned earlier in the show, Trevor Lawrence with a

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<v Speaker 2>concussion officially placed on injury reserve. That will shut him

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<v Speaker 2>down from this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a wrap. I mean in line gets the

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<v Speaker 3>first overall pick. Does do you a hard time starting

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<v Speaker 3>like Thomas or Ingram or the backs or I mean

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<v Speaker 3>their skill guys are all pretty fantasy relevant. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean it doesn't help.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not great. It's not what they were with Laurence. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay, it's okay. I don't think I mean the receivers,

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<v Speaker 2>especially because they're gonna be in catch up mode constantly.

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<v Speaker 2>Their defense is awful.

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<v Speaker 3>Mac Jones has been okay. I mean he's put up

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<v Speaker 3>some numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, mostly in ketchup model like portals like exact forman say,

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<v Speaker 2>very Jaguar esque Treylon Burks with an A C L

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<v Speaker 2>will miss the remainder of the season.

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty close to saying he's in bust to neighborhood here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>the field too much either.

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<v Speaker 2>Jalen Cocher with the quad injury. He practiced him full

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<v Speaker 2>on Wednesday. Okay, somebody did not forget about no. I.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually he has traded for him yesterday in a dynasty league.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm rebuilding. I think he's got a bright future, but

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<v Speaker 3>now all of a sudden, the receiver position is a

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<v Speaker 3>little crowded. I talked about theland yesterday. I'm surely Get's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna get plenty of time. Former Panther wide receiver just

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<v Speaker 3>got suspended former.

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<v Speaker 2>Stealers for a game by the Ravens for contract detrimental

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<v Speaker 2>to the team. Apparently on the release and they talked

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<v Speaker 2>about They said he refused to go into the game.

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<v Speaker 3>La right, and then you mentioned this off the air.

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<v Speaker 3>They got to buy this week and then he suspended

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<v Speaker 3>and seasons almost.

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<v Speaker 2>Like they're gonna stay away from the organization here for

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<v Speaker 2>a week.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you cut him.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Uh. Jatavian Sanders with that neck injury

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<v Speaker 2>officially limited on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, it looks like they're really pushing these young guys

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<v Speaker 3>to fish out of season.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets if he gets back into it. They were

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<v Speaker 2>throwing him the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, I think that offense is relevant.

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<v Speaker 2>Amari Cooper with a wrist, logged a full practice on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 2>Curtis Samuel with a foot was limited.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So is a Mary Cooper fantasy starter every week,

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<v Speaker 3>no doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't look at what happened in the last week's

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<v Speaker 2>game and say one way or the other.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I know it's tough, and it's a perfect

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<v Speaker 3>example for late Mike Williams. I mean, these receivers have

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<v Speaker 3>change teams that late. It's hard to get on board,

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<v Speaker 3>it really is. Yeah, and Cooper had some injuries.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Davonte Smith with a hamstring practiced on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, they could use them. He's been out a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Goddard's probably I don't know what godd situation is, but doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>sound good.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bengals signed Kadi York to their practice squad because

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<v Speaker 2>Evan McPherson expected to miss a few weeks with a

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<v Speaker 2>groin injury. That's significant because Evan McPherson gets to kick

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. And they play the Cowboys this week. But

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<v Speaker 2>the worst not the worst pick. He's not great, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna get opportunities.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, say the offense is really good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it's not the worst pivot he's been the

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<v Speaker 2>league too. I mean, expect not to go over three.

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<v Speaker 2>Well run the subject of kickers. Matthew Wright signed to

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<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs fifty three man roster. He'll be their third kicker. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>he already kicked last week. He was four or five

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<v Speaker 2>on his field goal attempts last week. That's good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going five attempts in one game. Spencer Schrader was

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<v Speaker 2>placed on IR with a hamstring injury. He was the

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<v Speaker 2>guy who was replacing Okay, And so it looks like

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<v Speaker 2>Matthew Wright's going to be the Chiefs kicker until Harrison

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<v Speaker 2>Bucker returns from.

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<v Speaker 3>That's another one. Like, I know their offense isn't as

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<v Speaker 3>good as people think it is, but that's not a

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<v Speaker 3>bad kicker to owned for fantasy.

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<v Speaker 2>They do get I mean they do kick field goals.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't score touchdowns all the time. Well yeah, Keyon

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<v Speaker 2>Coleman with a wrist injury, limited and practice on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 3>Tight end receiver situation in Buffalo is kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>stay away for me, considering what you have to pay

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<v Speaker 3>for them and all these things, But it'd be nice

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<v Speaker 3>if it shook itself out a little bit better.

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<v Speaker 2>Dalton kin Cave was limited on Wednesday. He hasn't played

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<v Speaker 2>since Week ten, so we'll see where that goes for him. Him.

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<v Speaker 2>Drew Locke going to get to start for the Giants

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<v Speaker 2>this week.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess it's better than de Vito, but I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean he runs a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm just thinking like for like Wandell Robinson and neighbors.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he actually throws the ball to neighbors. He

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't ignore him for a half. So, yeah, is Wandelle

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<v Speaker 2>Robinson even useful anymore? It sure seems like, well you

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<v Speaker 2>gotta be high completion percentage guys. Yeah, Alan Lazard but

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<v Speaker 2>the chest injury had his practice window opened on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm not real excited about him for fantasy.

0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Rogers does like him. He does got a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>touchdowns right in the year. Brees Hall with the knee

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<v Speaker 2>injury not practicing Wednesday. He did the same thing last

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<v Speaker 2>week and he went and played. He did lose two

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<v Speaker 2>fumbles or fumbled twice in that game. So the Browns

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<v Speaker 2>have signed quarterback Bailey Zappi.

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<v Speaker 3>Real quick on haul Like, it's a little early for

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<v Speaker 3>this conversation. But some of these awful teams running backs

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<v Speaker 3>that have bumps and bruises, might they not be around

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<v Speaker 3>for fantas see super bowls or you know, sometimes you'll

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<v Speaker 3>see these guys get shut down late in the scenes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's why when you have guys like that, you

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<v Speaker 2>that's when Allen is, That's when you handcuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you want to see the younger guy, Allen is

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<v Speaker 3>a great example for.

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<v Speaker 2>That, especially teams that have already had their bye week, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no reason not the handcuff if that's your one

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<v Speaker 2>of your top backs or your top and the top

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<v Speaker 2>back on your team. Josh Reynolds was waived by the

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<v Speaker 2>Broncos and claimed by the Jaguars.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's not a bad player. I don't think he's

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<v Speaker 3>relevant for Mac Jones phone to Josh Reynolds, doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't ye, Yeah, that doesn't fill me.

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<v Speaker 3>Playoff wins in the in the my Fantasy League.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Keishawn Vaughan added to the forty nine ers practice squad.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I see the small, undersize.

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<v Speaker 2>Former Tampa Bay buck back.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I was thinking Douce Vaughn. I guess is the

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<v Speaker 3>one I was thinking of?

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<v Speaker 2>The cowboy Okay, yeah's had some moments.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there was a lot of buzz with him when

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<v Speaker 3>he came out, but never quite put the other.

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<v Speaker 2>They also signed Patrick Taylor Junior to their practice squad,

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<v Speaker 2>so they added two running backs to the practice. Somebody's

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<v Speaker 2>getting elevated.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, somebody's getting elevated. I mean they lost to so

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<v Speaker 3>you got to add too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how about this one? Finally, Marshawn Lattimore on track

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<v Speaker 2>to return in week fifteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, make a trade for him to the trade deadline.

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<v Speaker 3>Still doesn't play the snap for you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been five or six weeks now they've had him

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<v Speaker 2>on the roster.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, what's different about him than some of these

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<v Speaker 3>other trades. He's a contract. Yeah, that's a that's a

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<v Speaker 3>big long term move. But if you get them breved

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<v Speaker 3>up for the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, DJ reader considered day to day.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I need to look into the Lion injuries more.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a couple of them out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't look like they're gonna have Taylor Decker this week, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Looks like Carlton Davis could return for them in week fourteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course that's a Thursday night game. So yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 2>starting to get a little yeah, a little bit better news.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like some of it. Yeah, that's about Reynolds.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty much it for the fantasy news of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>This Deontay Johnson stuff. You know, the people who ran

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<v Speaker 2>out and picked him up hoping that he was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly become fantasy or still be if you had him

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<v Speaker 2>on your roster with from Carolina, you were happy because

0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:21.440
<v Speaker 2>he was getting the football and he was happy. And

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<v Speaker 2>then when he goes to Baltimore and he's not getting

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<v Speaker 2>the football and he's not even getting on the field,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not happy.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's not like you an opportunity to get on

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<v Speaker 3>the field, and he refused it. What's up with that?

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<v Speaker 3>Like it'd be if you're I mean, you're getting paid

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<v Speaker 3>to pay foot play football, and if you're asked to

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<v Speaker 3>go in the field, to go in the field, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean unless you have a knee or something. You know

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<v Speaker 3>that you think they misdiagnosed. But how does that conversation

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<v Speaker 3>happen on it on the sideline? I don't know, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>not pretty. And Raven's a bigger fish to fry than

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<v Speaker 3>worry about the new guy, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I wonder if he plays it all for them.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why when you when you make some trades like that, especially,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean when when you have fifty three guys in

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<v Speaker 2>the locker room, your head coach has to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to handle things well within the scheme of everything. No, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, people are asking why isn't Mike Williams playing?

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<v Speaker 2>He's playing. They're not throwing them the ball a whole lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet doesn't mean that they won't or that's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen. But he is playing. But that's not been

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<v Speaker 2>in you know, there's been none of this kind of stuff. No, no, right, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm sure you know Preston Smith wasn't happy

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<v Speaker 2>with his role in Green Bay and asked for a trade.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think he was rocking the boat there anything,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, but Johnson seems to be rocking the boat.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I mean that's the thing that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of one of the dangers when you when you

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<v Speaker 2>trade for somebody. Teams don't want to get rid of

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<v Speaker 2>guys for no reason.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, a lot in a lot of cases. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>obviously there's some instances where probably not going to sign him,

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<v Speaker 3>his contracts up, we're not doing anything. Dump them a date,

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<v Speaker 3>trade deadline, let's get young. Sometimes just I want to

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<v Speaker 3>get this guy out of here because he's a pain

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<v Speaker 3>in the butt, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I wonder if Deonta is quickly going down

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<v Speaker 2>that might be the way it's headed there for him.

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<v Speaker 2>But Matt, that's going to do it for the fantasy

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<v Speaker 2>football focus.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's whatever his interest will be in the off season,

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<v Speaker 3>might be his stock has gone down, dramatic, dramatic contract

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<v Speaker 3>and all that stuff. Who's gonna be calling?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, for sure, let's get through a break. He

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<v Speaker 2>is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to

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<v Speaker 2>the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt now

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<v Speaker 2>will be back right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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<v Speaker 1>your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

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<v Speaker 2>And we are back here on the Drive. I am

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<v Speaker 2>Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and Matt We

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<v Speaker 2>got to see the debut of Hard Knox last night

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<v Speaker 2>looking at the AFC North and of course the Steelers

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<v Speaker 2>were featured prominently on that one because they played a

0:16:57.200 --> 0:17:01.120
<v Speaker 2>fellow AFC North opponent. Yeah, and a lot of interesting

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<v Speaker 2>stuff coming out of that, including you get to see

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<v Speaker 2>how Mike Tomlin likes to is capable of pushing players

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<v Speaker 2>buttons him standing in front of the room, commanding the room,

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<v Speaker 2>and just kind of that the lesson that he gives

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<v Speaker 2>each week. And he was asked earlier in the week,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, do you worry about your message getting old

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<v Speaker 2>or stale? He's like, look, this is a short term

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<v Speaker 2>business for these players. Yeah, if you look at it's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty you know, we talked about this in the preseason

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<v Speaker 2>before the season started. Well, I think it was like

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six new guys on the roster or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's almost half your roster turns over from

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<v Speaker 2>the previous year.

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<v Speaker 3>So a lot to take away there too. I thought

0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:48.360
<v Speaker 3>Tomlin was the star of the show, and frankly, if

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<v Speaker 3>this was Raven's Nation Radio, I would said the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought him and Joe Burrow were the most impressive

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<v Speaker 3>two people featured in this whole thing.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It was one hour and that's on a knock on

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<v Speaker 3>the other three head coaches. See how the other episodes go.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm sure Tom will do just fine. But it

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<v Speaker 3>made me a couple of things. I know Tomlin has

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<v Speaker 3>his critics, you know, and if you want to criticize

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<v Speaker 3>his clock management, go right ahead. I mean that's valid.

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<v Speaker 3>I get it. He's not perfect, but I think if

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<v Speaker 3>you watch that, you have a better understanding for why

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<v Speaker 3>he wins games, you know. I mean his message to

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<v Speaker 3>the team was great. One on one with Cam Hayward

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<v Speaker 3>walking into the locker room one on one with Pickens.

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought I thought it was interesting when the

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<v Speaker 2>coaches are all sitting around watching takes.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where it's going next.

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<v Speaker 2>Like his knowledge of the game is so extreme, attention

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<v Speaker 2>to detail.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, like we know this is going to happen. This

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<v Speaker 3>is going to happen. Like if you talk to Wolf

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<v Speaker 3>for a tonch of those guys, you know, Chuck Noll

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<v Speaker 3>could have coached the defensive backs or the tight ends

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<v Speaker 3>or the running backs. And I think Tomlin's exactly the

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<v Speaker 3>same way, you know, or you know, I know he's

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<v Speaker 3>praising Jamar Chase. Look at Jamar Chase come out of

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<v Speaker 3>his break here on this in cutting route. That's an

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<v Speaker 3>amazing angle. And you know, boy, you know Burrow is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be you know, great respect for the opponent

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<v Speaker 3>and how they can beat You give.

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<v Speaker 2>Me a problem if we allow him to step up

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<v Speaker 2>into the pocket, yah know? And behold it became a

0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:09.520
<v Speaker 2>problem allowing him to step up in the pocket. And

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<v Speaker 2>then they like, guys, we talked about this, Yeah, let's

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<v Speaker 2>not let this guy do this to us.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm probably gonna watch it again, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>when he was walking off the field with Hayward. As

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<v Speaker 3>I referenced, he said something like, as long as we

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<v Speaker 3>contain Chase Brown, who isn't their best player, and don't

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<v Speaker 3>let Burrow step up in the pocket, the offensives have

0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:32.480
<v Speaker 3>to can score zero points and we're gonna be okay,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, Like, these are the things

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<v Speaker 3>we have to take away. It's not just Chase is awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>We can't. You know, everyone knows that, you know, so

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<v Speaker 3>his knowledge of the game is really really came through

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<v Speaker 3>in that episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, And you know again with the stuff with

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<v Speaker 2>Herbig and we'll get to hear from my Nick Herbig

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<v Speaker 2>here a little bit. In the final segment of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>I talked to him about the episode last night, just

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<v Speaker 2>driving home the point that hey, you got you got

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<v Speaker 2>one of the big matchups this week. Yeah, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you got you got Orlando Brown this week, and if

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<v Speaker 2>you win that matchup, we're gonna win this game. This game,

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<v Speaker 2>and then not only saying it to him every single

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<v Speaker 2>time he saw him during the week, saying it on

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<v Speaker 2>the sideline during the game, saying it in the team meeting. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, call it a second year guy, Like, hey, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to win this. We expect you to win this,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's hoping you win this. We expect you to win.

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<v Speaker 3>This, and he's not saying it to every player in

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<v Speaker 3>every matchup. I mean, he knew that was a critical

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<v Speaker 3>one that there's'll be a lot of one on one.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, DJ is gonna get a ton of attention. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, with a young Ray tackle in particular, if

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<v Speaker 3>we can win that matchup one v one high percent

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<v Speaker 3>of the time, we're gonna be really tough to beat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, lo and behold right right, And it was the

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<v Speaker 2>key to the game. Yeah, you get the stripsack and

0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:52.600
<v Speaker 2>touchdown off of that, and it's like you see Tomlin's

0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:54.360
<v Speaker 2>reaction on the sideline to that, just like.

0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:56.920
<v Speaker 3>It was right, that's what we're talking about.

0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:59.600
<v Speaker 2>It we're talking about And then he pulls herbig aside

0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:03.280
<v Speaker 2>and said, hey, that's what we you know that, that's

0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:04.399
<v Speaker 2>who you are right now.

0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:06.600
<v Speaker 3>I got a kick out of the episode, and part

0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:07.879
<v Speaker 3>of it was I put I spent a year in

0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:11.040
<v Speaker 3>the Browns facility two and I like the Ravens facility.

0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:14.200
<v Speaker 3>It's all brick and you know, kind of old right, right.

0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:15.720
<v Speaker 3>I kind of like how they do things too. But

0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:19.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm Bengals not as much, but no, I think it's

0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:20.800
<v Speaker 3>gonna be a good series too.

0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:24.080
<v Speaker 2>When you see something like that, it does kind of

0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:29.480
<v Speaker 2>point out the differences between the other three teams and

0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:30.200
<v Speaker 2>the Bengals.

0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:35.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I have never been in the Bengals facility,

0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:37.199
<v Speaker 3>but I spent a ton of time in the Browns.

0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:40.600
<v Speaker 2>One their facility is the stadium. Yeah, there's They're one

0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:42.800
<v Speaker 2>of the few teams that are still working out at

0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:47.639
<v Speaker 2>their stadium, the practice fields. When you're driving into into

0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:50.879
<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati from the airport in Kentucky, you come across the

0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:53.320
<v Speaker 2>bridge and their practice fields are right there on the right,

0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:57.240
<v Speaker 2>next to the stadium. They now have an indoor bubble.

0:21:57.800 --> 0:21:59.240
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of like how three Rivers used to be

0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:01.480
<v Speaker 3>right like in their cleats.

0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Walking they had to walk across the street and Lambert

0:22:03.359 --> 0:22:06.040
<v Speaker 2>those guys, right and and but they're they're practiced or

0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:09.800
<v Speaker 2>quote unquote indoor practice facility is basically just a.

0:22:09.880 --> 0:22:11.400
<v Speaker 3>Bubble over that. Yeah.

0:22:12.000 --> 0:22:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's it's it's about three blocks away down

0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:17.760
<v Speaker 2>the street from the stadium, so the players have to

0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:21.920
<v Speaker 2>walk all the way over there. Not that I mean, but.

0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:25.520
<v Speaker 3>It's these are billion dollar, multi billion dollar organization.

0:22:25.200 --> 0:22:27.400
<v Speaker 2>Walking in your spikes on the you know, like.

0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:29.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean one of the Steelers used to practice

0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:31.199
<v Speaker 3>way back when I was referring to is now a

0:22:31.240 --> 0:22:33.840
<v Speaker 3>parking lot because it should be a parking lot because

0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:35.240
<v Speaker 3>it was to the stadium, right.

0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:38.240
<v Speaker 2>I can remember, like when the Steelers used to when

0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:40.720
<v Speaker 2>they wanted to practice on grass when they were still

0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:44.520
<v Speaker 2>headquartered at three of their stadium. They had to go

0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:48.480
<v Speaker 2>past there was the warehouse, I think it was Kaufman's

0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:53.840
<v Speaker 2>warehouse or whatever. Walk across that walk across the freeway

0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:58.120
<v Speaker 2>to get to this fifty yard grass practice facility yard made,

0:22:58.320 --> 0:23:00.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, and so it wasn't even a full field.

0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:03.600
<v Speaker 2>And it's kind of the same thing that the Bengals

0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:08.080
<v Speaker 2>are doing now. The Steelers graduated away from that thirty years.

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:12.040
<v Speaker 3>Ago before I was in this business, right, And say

0:23:12.040 --> 0:23:14.480
<v Speaker 3>what you want about the Browns, but that facility we

0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:16.520
<v Speaker 3>didn't want for anything. I mean, they spent a lot

0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:17.000
<v Speaker 3>of money.

0:23:17.640 --> 0:23:19.760
<v Speaker 2>They showed them. They had the facility, they had the

0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:25.040
<v Speaker 2>into the room set up for uh elevation room, oh yeah,

0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:26.840
<v Speaker 2>at a lower oxygen level and you can go in

0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:29.160
<v Speaker 2>there and work out before that, you know, that kind

0:23:29.160 --> 0:23:29.800
<v Speaker 2>of stuff like.

0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:34.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they spend a buck in like little things like

0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:37.560
<v Speaker 3>if I went into WVU with a scuff on my shoes,

0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:39.200
<v Speaker 3>I heard about it, like come get a new pair

0:23:39.240 --> 0:23:41.200
<v Speaker 3>of shoes, you know, like anything you wanted all the time.

0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:43.679
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's a multi billion dollar organization, you know.

0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Bengals don't.

0:23:45.760 --> 0:23:46.640
<v Speaker 3>They don't run it that way.

0:23:46.720 --> 0:23:49.920
<v Speaker 2>They do more offer them, Yeah, which is in some

0:23:49.960 --> 0:23:52.960
<v Speaker 2>ways is good, but other ways sure bad.

0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:53.359
<v Speaker 4>Sure.

0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:56.919
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's probably less attractive to several athletes that

0:23:57.200 --> 0:23:59.920
<v Speaker 3>if you're picking between three teams, they might be last. Yeah,

0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:01.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, yeah, I don't know. We talked about after

0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:04.320
<v Speaker 3>the Bengals game. I could see rocky roads ahead for

0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:07.640
<v Speaker 3>both Ohio organizations for different reasons.

0:24:07.840 --> 0:24:10.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know, just some of the ways that

0:24:10.720 --> 0:24:14.240
<v Speaker 2>the coaches kind of handled the room as well. And

0:24:14.320 --> 0:24:15.960
<v Speaker 2>not even just the head coaches.

0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:18.520
<v Speaker 3>Though there was the episode Brownsow Line coach.

0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Brownsow Line coach yelling and screaming at his offensive line

0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:26.920
<v Speaker 2>about you know, and and just nonsensical stuff.

0:24:27.480 --> 0:24:30.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I didn't quite get that that was not painted

0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:33.080
<v Speaker 3>in a great light there, Yeah, in that one. But no,

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:35.680
<v Speaker 3>I was very impressed with Tomlin. I liked when he

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:37.959
<v Speaker 3>was sitting there watching film with the you know, the

0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:41.000
<v Speaker 3>coaches too, and if that's what they're showing, you think

0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:42.840
<v Speaker 3>of the insights that they're not right.

0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they were willing to give you that part.

0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:45.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah.

0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:49.520
<v Speaker 2>I also thought it was interesting to see some of

0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:52.600
<v Speaker 2>the sideline stuff with Russell Wilson and the way he

0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:55.560
<v Speaker 2>reacted to different things, like the interception and he's right

0:24:55.600 --> 0:24:58.680
<v Speaker 2>back and like, you know, guys, we're fine, yea, And

0:24:58.680 --> 0:25:00.520
<v Speaker 2>then they score the touchdown. He's going to the easter

0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:02.879
<v Speaker 2>offensive lineman. He's shaking her hands. Hey, good job, guys.

0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 2>Way to do that. That's you know, and you know.

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:07.800
<v Speaker 3>It's better than I do. But it sounds like a

0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:12.040
<v Speaker 3>lot of quotes right after that Cincinnati game where man

0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:16.320
<v Speaker 3>Russ was more enthusiastic and more positive than ever, you

0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:18.239
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean. And he's getting really comfortable here too.

0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think that's a big part of it, right,

0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:22.680
<v Speaker 2>And he's comfortable in his own skin with who.

0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:24.680
<v Speaker 3>He is, he is works.

0:25:25.720 --> 0:25:28.240
<v Speaker 2>It just leads me back to the whole Denver situation

0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:32.680
<v Speaker 2>and some of the character assassination it went on with him.

0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:35.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh he's a phony, he's this, he's it's fake. I'm

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:37.160
<v Speaker 2>like don't. I don't think you can fake that.

0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:39.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't think anything he's done here.

0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 6>To me.

0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:44.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean I kind of thought first day of camp

0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:46.359
<v Speaker 3>or whatever, I'm like, of course everyone all eyes are

0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:48.880
<v Speaker 3>on the might as well. I'm like, is this guy

0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:51.239
<v Speaker 3>really diva? Just you know, I'm happy to be here,

0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 3>blah blah. I'm like, that does not That's not the

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:55.560
<v Speaker 3>impression I get. I mean, I'm not best friends with him,

0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:58.160
<v Speaker 3>don't get me wrong, but just the way he's who

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:00.440
<v Speaker 3>he's hanging with, how he's hanging with him, do you

0:26:00.560 --> 0:26:05.120
<v Speaker 3>know all that stuff? Yeah, mannerisms, they respect them, Yeah.

0:26:04.960 --> 0:26:06.639
<v Speaker 2>They do. Yeah, And I think it goes a lot

0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:09.280
<v Speaker 2>of it goes back to it's kind of the similar

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:13.480
<v Speaker 2>respect that we saw in the Steelers' locker room when

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:16.919
<v Speaker 2>they signed Michael Vick. Okay, Michael Vick was clearly at

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:18.439
<v Speaker 2>the end of his career, he was done, but they

0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:20.760
<v Speaker 2>he was a legend. He's a legend, and he's a legend.

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:22.920
<v Speaker 2>He's a guy, you know, he was one of the

0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:24.880
<v Speaker 2>first of his kind. You know, this is the guy

0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:26.920
<v Speaker 2>who was on the cover of Madden. Then there's the

0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:28.840
<v Speaker 2>guy who was you know, these guys when they were

0:26:28.840 --> 0:26:30.720
<v Speaker 2>growing up that that's who they played with. You wanted

0:26:30.760 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 2>to be Michael Vick because you could.

0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:34.400
<v Speaker 3>Just do anything right and he was a superhuman. Yeah,

0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 3>that's a good point. I mean a lot of those

0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 3>guys grew up with loving that guy. You know, had

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 3>posters of him on the wall type of guy.

0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:45.080
<v Speaker 2>But you see that with like just different guys in

0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:46.919
<v Speaker 2>that locker room and how they how they kind of

0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 2>deferred him, and they did with Ben Roethlisberger as well.

0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:52.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean it was just you know, that's but Ben

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 3>never had to come to a new team, right, you

0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:54.720
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean?

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:57.880
<v Speaker 2>This was this was coming in from the outside and

0:26:58.160 --> 0:26:59.920
<v Speaker 2>being Okay, how do you how do you handle this?

0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 2>And I just think he's handled it really well.

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:04.359
<v Speaker 3>It makes me wonder and I know it's not what

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:08.640
<v Speaker 3>we're talking about, but Kirk Cousins has really struggled in Atlanta.

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 3>And I'm not saying they underminded him by drafting Pennix,

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:15.720
<v Speaker 3>but you had enough. Imagine if it was Wilson and

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:17.520
<v Speaker 3>you had a first round quarterback there too.

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's a different dynamic.

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:21.440
<v Speaker 3>It's a much different dynamic, Like that's the guy who's

0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:24.120
<v Speaker 3>going to replace you and you're new, you haven't You've

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 3>had a great career, but you've been put ating Pelts

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 3>on the wall here yet you don't have that respect. Yeah,

0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:30.399
<v Speaker 3>I mean if Wilson was sitting there with Pennix in

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:30.760
<v Speaker 3>the room.

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:33.440
<v Speaker 2>It was kind of similar though with Fields a little

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:35.399
<v Speaker 2>bit in that, you know, you have a guy with

0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:38.000
<v Speaker 2>the Again, Fields is a high pedigree guy. He's a

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:40.760
<v Speaker 2>former first round draft pick and has done a lot

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:42.800
<v Speaker 2>of good things in the league. And you know, we

0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:45.680
<v Speaker 2>we we've dealt with it on this show, and people,

0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:47.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, wanted Fields to continue to be the starter.

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:53.359
<v Speaker 2>But those two had a relationship because of Wilson. You

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:56.439
<v Speaker 2>know Wilson, Yeah, had you know, they'd reached out to

0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:58.960
<v Speaker 2>him when he was at Ohio State in Georgia and

0:27:59.040 --> 0:28:02.320
<v Speaker 2>they had formed a relationship there that you know, And

0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:03.879
<v Speaker 2>I talked to Fields about it. He goes, you know this,

0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:07.200
<v Speaker 2>he was a guy that I you know, I admired,

0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, the way he played the game because it

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:10.919
<v Speaker 2>was a similar style to the way I played.

0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:13.119
<v Speaker 3>No, I think there's a lot to be said for

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 3>that as opposed to just fantasy football. We're gonna put

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:17.879
<v Speaker 3>both you guys in the same locker. You know, that's

0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 3>not how it works, especially with quarterbacks, of course, you know,

0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:22.959
<v Speaker 3>it's it's the highlander. There can be only one if

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:25.160
<v Speaker 3>there's one leader of the team, if there's one defensive

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:27.439
<v Speaker 3>lineman and the other one is his best buddy in

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:29.720
<v Speaker 3>the room. Okay, we'll be fine, we'll figure it out.

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:32.640
<v Speaker 3>But the quarterbacks need to they can have a rivalry,

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:35.200
<v Speaker 3>they can compete. Of course, if they don't, there's something

0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 3>wrong with them, you know, I mean, you still want

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 3>to start. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, but I think

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:42.000
<v Speaker 3>that they handled that dynamic really really well.

0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:43.960
<v Speaker 2>And I think part of it is because of those

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 2>two guys in that relationship that they had.

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:51.360
<v Speaker 3>So I wonder how like Atlanta's how that feels, you know,

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 3>with a new guy, especially coming up with injury, you

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:55.280
<v Speaker 3>can't improve yourself, you know.

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 2>The other cool thing was was that Tomlin telling the players, Hey,

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 2>if you got don't have a place to go for Thanksgiving?

0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:04.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was cool. Yeah, you know, and they hate

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 3>were brothers too. I happened to be Thanksgiving week, which

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 3>was cool too. And I feel like Cam's gonna be

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 3>pretty impressive in this thing too.

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean Cam's Cam's Cam. Yeah, I kind of

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 2>joke with him today because Tomlin said yesterday it is

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 2>a press conference. Cam's been here for twenty five years.

0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:23.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I walked over to Cam today, I'm like,

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna let Mike hang twenty five years now on you.

0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 2>He just likes to say that stuff because he knows

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 2>it ticks me off, and like whatever motivates you right again,

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:32.800
<v Speaker 2>pushing the right bush.

0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 3>And the buttons. Yeah, yeah, And I'm sure that they

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 3>probably heard about it going into Cincinnati on a ten

0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 3>day rest, and they're probably still hearing about it, especially

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:45.440
<v Speaker 3>that d line. Remember how you played against the Brownies. Yeah,

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:47.960
<v Speaker 3>they'll watch that Brown's tape. You're happy with that? Yeah,

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:50.240
<v Speaker 3>but I bet it's still fresh on their mind a.

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Little bit, yeah, a little bit. Yeah. As Carl Dunbar said,

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 2>when when Daddy's not happy, nobody's happy and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:29:58.400 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 2>they were not happy about that one.

0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 3>That was good stuff. I urge everyone to check it out.

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 3>And I thought Tomlin was kind of the start of

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:04.920
<v Speaker 3>the show. Yeah.

0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:10.920
<v Speaker 2>And you know, if you have this theory and it's

0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 2>still out there because I get it. Terry Bradshaw said, However,

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 2>many years ago, Mike Tomlin's a cheerleader, and I still

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:18.640
<v Speaker 2>see that thrown about, Oh he's just a cheerleader, coach,

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 2>You have no clue that watch these shows, right and

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 2>tell me that all he does is cheerlead.

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:27.000
<v Speaker 3>He has a pulse of everything that goes on the organization. Yeah,

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, big time in Belichick kind of way. You know,

0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:31.560
<v Speaker 3>knows every little bit that's happening, right.

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean you see a difference sitting down with Danny

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Smith and talking about protections and things of that nature,

0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Like sure, yeah, he's got he's got his finger on

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:42.480
<v Speaker 2>the pulse of every room in that building.

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 3>Big time, as much as any head coach going right now,

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 3>I think, to be very honest with you, I mean,

0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 3>he's a I forget Mike Lombardi calls it. He's the

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 3>chief fixer upper guy, you know, like what's up fires?

0:30:56.960 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 3>You know, like there's so many fires we never see

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:02.720
<v Speaker 3>because that they don't get raging out of control because

0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 3>he puts them out immediately, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's a big job of a head coach.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is, and it's I think it's a big

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<v Speaker 2>reason why the guys who still want to be play

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<v Speaker 2>callers on one side of the ball. I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>why it doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's brutal. I mean, if you're Andy Reid,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, okay, you're a special guy, but you're out,

0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 3>you're biting off more and you can chew. I mean,

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 3>you don't see it anymore. But he used to be

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 3>some of these coaches would also be GM. So I'm like,

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 3>what do you You're asking too much? Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can't. You don't have time to scout during

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<v Speaker 2>the season.

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<v Speaker 3>No, right, I mean you got the fer and I

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 3>mean it's not even the same skill set necessarily, you know.

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:38.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, like just be the head coach.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, be a CEO type and the thing you know,

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 2>when Tomlin was asked about his potential to burn out

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:47.920
<v Speaker 2>in this business on Tuesday, and he said, look, I'm

0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 2>not going to burn out on this, he said, I

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 2>this is my hobby. This is what I love, and

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 2>this is my hobby. This is football is what I do.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, I mean my life's way different than Mike Tomlins.

0:31:58.440 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 3>But people ask me all the time, like when you are

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 3>gonna retire? I guess when people stop wanting to listen

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 3>to me, because this is what I would you know,

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 3>like right, I mean, if I was an accountant, my

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 3>free time would be doing NFL stuff, you know, Yeah,

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 3>yeah right, I mean it's kind of the same deal.

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:15.640
<v Speaker 3>If that's what you love, great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he certainly does love it. Yeah, if you

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 2>watch this show and you got to get HBO to

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 2>to do that, but yeah, if you watch the show,

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 2>I think you'll come away with a different just I think,

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 2>a better understaneling and general understanding of hows and.

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 3>Why he's been so successful. It's not an accident and

0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 3>another non losing season, win playoff game. Like you know

0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 3>how hard it is to go season after season without

0:32:47.040 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 3>having a down year. I mean it's in this game

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 3>with injuries and picking late in the first round, you

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 3>don't pick up top five ever, you know, I mean

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 3>it's brutal.

0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Cleveland's going to have another top five pick this year,

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati's gonna probably have another top ten pick this year.

0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 3>Jacksonville's probably going to have the first pick overall three

0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:04.960
<v Speaker 3>out of five years.

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 2>And you still stink, and you still stink.

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what if he gave that to Tom One? Yeah,

0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean.

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when he talks about, you know, on the sideline

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:15.520
<v Speaker 2>with you know, he's been miked up in the past,

0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 2>and he's joking with Chase Young. I never planned on

0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:19.960
<v Speaker 2>being high enough to draft somebody.

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:21.640
<v Speaker 3>Like you, yeah, which is a compliment, yeah, you know,

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 3>and it's also a little pat of my own back

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 3>that we don't pick the top. Yeah.

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:27.880
<v Speaker 2>And yet somehow you still get kitting the Cam Haywards

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 2>of the word, you still get the T. J.

0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 3>Watson all these guys, right. Absolutely, Yeah, it's not bad,

0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 3>not bad at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, out good. Absolutely.

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the guys that again was featured and during

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 2>the show was was Herbig and uh, there was a

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:44.920
<v Speaker 2>lot out there to pick through with him, and so

0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:47.960
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to talk to him about that today and

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 2>found him in the locker room, so we'll hear what

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 2>he had to say about some of the stuff that

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:54.560
<v Speaker 2>happened in the show. Uh, And some of the stuff

0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:56.280
<v Speaker 2>that was picked up in the show anyways didn't really

0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 2>happen in the show. The show just happens. The football

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 2>is what's taking place. The show is just they're kind

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 2>of taking apart seeing all. Yeah while they're at that,

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:09.319
<v Speaker 2>but they're just capturing the moments. So I did talk

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:11.440
<v Speaker 2>to her Big about that today. We'll hear that when

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:14.120
<v Speaker 2>when we come back. He is Matt Williamson. I am

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 2>Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here on the

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 2>Steelers Audio Network. We'll be back to finish up the

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:19.920
<v Speaker 2>show right after.

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 4>This at least.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:31.759
<v Speaker 1>your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:42.359
<v Speaker 2>Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is the Matt

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Williamson and Matt one of the guys. We just kind

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:46.920
<v Speaker 2>of touched on a little bit there in the previous

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:51.880
<v Speaker 2>segment talking about the Hard Knocks episode last night. Was

0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:57.279
<v Speaker 2>Nick Krbig and the way Mike Tomlin handled him a

0:34:57.280 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 2>little bit in that show I thought was interesting. And

0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 2>so I saw her Big in the locker room today

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:05.360
<v Speaker 2>and I said, I'm gonna go ask him some questions

0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:06.920
<v Speaker 2>about that. Actually I went looking for him in the

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 2>locker room and good found him there.

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<v Speaker 3>Scope out for sure, absolutely, and he's been phenomenal.

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 2>He's been on he's been on a bit of a

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 2>tear since.

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:19.359
<v Speaker 3>He joined the league. I mean just pastoral. I mean

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:23.360
<v Speaker 3>efficiency per pass rush snap is really really high and

0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 3>no knocking anybody else, but he's gonna be hard to

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:26.760
<v Speaker 3>take off the field.

0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you have to figure out ways to do that.

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I expect that they'll find some ways to.

0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:33.880
<v Speaker 3>Do I would lighten TJ's load a little bit. You know,

0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 3>That's we've got a big picture to think about here.

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 3>Maybe ten snaps less of game and put over over

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:40.080
<v Speaker 3>there or something. Yeah.

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 2>So, and he's capable of doing those kind of things.

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:44.839
<v Speaker 2>And I'm gonna pat myself on the head here, but uh,

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:47.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do it. He was. He was my dude

0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:50.600
<v Speaker 2>going into that draft two years. Oh yeah, remember I

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:52.719
<v Speaker 2>was a big Herbig fan. I mean, the motor just

0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:55.799
<v Speaker 2>is runs constantly and he is a nightmare to block.

0:35:56.000 --> 0:35:57.879
<v Speaker 3>He really is. I mean he really got the better

0:35:57.920 --> 0:35:58.880
<v Speaker 3>of Orlando Brown too.

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:01.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just to him up a little bit. But let's

0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 2>hear what Nick Herbig had to say.

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<v Speaker 5>Obviously, watching Hard Knocks last night, and it seemed like

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 5>all week long like you're still you were gonna beat

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 5>Orlando Brown for a big play.

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:13.919
<v Speaker 4>Was that the case or did they kind of played

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:15.560
<v Speaker 4>it up a little bit too much?

0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:20.239
<v Speaker 7>No, it was, Yeah, that was literally every day emphasized that.

0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:22.400
<v Speaker 7>He made sure he told me that that's gonna be

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:26.480
<v Speaker 7>me versus him, And here he told me that every

0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:27.160
<v Speaker 7>time he saw him.

0:36:27.800 --> 0:36:29.759
<v Speaker 5>It seemed like right before he went out and and

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:31.600
<v Speaker 5>got the stripsack, he had said it again.

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:34.360
<v Speaker 4>Was that happening throughout the game or was it?

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it was every I guess every time I saw

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:39.719
<v Speaker 6>him that there was the same thing.

0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:44.319
<v Speaker 5>Did that put I mean, is that kind of reinforce

0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:47.239
<v Speaker 5>kind of what you're I mean, you know, you gotta

0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:49.319
<v Speaker 5>beat the guy you're gonna get Yeah, going up again,

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:51.319
<v Speaker 5>but continued to say it just it.

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:52.520
<v Speaker 6>Definitely emphasizes it.

0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:55.960
<v Speaker 7>And like I'm I say, you're thinking about like see

0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:57.360
<v Speaker 7>him come out and tell you that, ye up, Like

0:36:57.760 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 7>it's gonna be me versus him all day and we're

0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 7>gonna find Now.

0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:04.600
<v Speaker 2>Does that help you kind of conceptualize and visualize it

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more?

0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:05.680
<v Speaker 6>For sure?

0:37:05.760 --> 0:37:08.560
<v Speaker 7>You know, especially when like coach Toman is saying that

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 7>to you, Like it's not like it's you know, respect

0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:13.759
<v Speaker 7>like any of the other coaches, but like it's coach

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:14.840
<v Speaker 7>Tomlan saying that, so.

0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:16.719
<v Speaker 4>He knows your your matchups are cute.

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, man, him pointing that out to you in front

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:22.640
<v Speaker 7>of the team is like, oh, we're gonna find out,

0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:24.840
<v Speaker 7>like I'm putting you on this pedestal.

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 6>And we're gonna see if you're really about that action.

0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:27.920
<v Speaker 3>That's how I feel it.

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:32.359
<v Speaker 4>I mean, just him, he seems to push the right

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:33.320
<v Speaker 4>buttons with everybody.

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:36.879
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, he definitely does. He knows how to push those.

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:43.239
<v Speaker 4>With Alec coming back now, you expect to still get

0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:45.800
<v Speaker 4>those kind of reps. I mean, I mean, I'm not

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:48.000
<v Speaker 4>the usual three guys at the same time.

0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:53.279
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, I'm not. I'm not too sure. I just

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 6>know that whenever my number is called, I got to

0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:56.440
<v Speaker 6>uphold that standard.

0:37:57.280 --> 0:38:01.400
<v Speaker 5>You've obviously you got three fumbles in three straight games

0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:02.520
<v Speaker 5>something like that.

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:04.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, have you ever had a streak like this?

0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 6>I don't know. I just I just like to win

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:10.320
<v Speaker 6>football games. As long as we went, I'm happy.

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 4>But obviously you're You've been a big part of that.

0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 5>You know, you get you get there Henry to fumble,

0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:18.000
<v Speaker 5>you got fumble a lot, and you know you get

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:18.840
<v Speaker 5>to get your burrow.

0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 7>I just think that's just the culture here, and like

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:23.320
<v Speaker 7>my coach is emphasizing that, and like I have a

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:27.040
<v Speaker 7>great position coach in Denzel and Dunbar and you know

0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 7>they closed me well, they're hard on me, and you

0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:32.719
<v Speaker 7>know it's that's what that's what it is expected here

0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:33.280
<v Speaker 7>in Pittsburgh.

0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:37.440
<v Speaker 2>That was Steelers outside linebacker Nick Herbig go with me

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 2>earlier today and uh as you heard he Uh yeah,

0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Tomlin knew what buttons to push with him and uh

0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:45.320
<v Speaker 2>it worked.

0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:47.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think it also helps to have a big

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:50.399
<v Speaker 3>brother figure around. And I'm not even talking about his brother.

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:53.360
<v Speaker 3>I forgot to talking about DJ. But yeah, I mean,

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:56.680
<v Speaker 3>pretty nice dynamic and I'm pretty psyched to see hoping

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 3>it happens. But all four of those outside linebackers all

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:01.879
<v Speaker 3>in the same on the same field together once. It's

0:39:02.040 --> 0:39:02.719
<v Speaker 3>pretty good group.

0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:05.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you could do a little uh, I don't even

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:09.960
<v Speaker 2>know what package you would call you gonna take you

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:12.319
<v Speaker 2>gonna take Cam Heyward off the field. I'm not real

0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:14.760
<v Speaker 2>psyched about that, but I mean it's a nice problem

0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:17.120
<v Speaker 2>to have that you've got too many good edge rushers. Yeah, yeah,

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:20.080
<v Speaker 2>you can just come at the waves. But Matt, that's

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 2>going to do it for the show today?

0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, good stuff.

0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely guess today. Absolutely. We thank Jimmy Rooney for stopping

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 2>by and joining us here in the in the studio.

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:31.640
<v Speaker 2>We want to thank Bob Labriola for stopping by as

0:39:31.760 --> 0:39:35.719
<v Speaker 2>well as usual, and uh well for my partner Matt Williamson,

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:38.800
<v Speaker 2>for Justin Miller here on site running the Justin Miller Hotline,

0:39:39.160 --> 0:39:41.600
<v Speaker 2>and for Tyler viitt Meyer here through him a little

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:44.920
<v Speaker 2>curve ball today with the in studio guest. Can check

0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:47.719
<v Speaker 2>that out on YouTube. I am Dale, Lolly. We thank

0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:50.160
<v Speaker 2>you for listening to this edition of the Drive on

0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 2>the Steelers Audio Network.