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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly, he is the Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson and this is the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 2: dumb we are, Yes, smart we are, how handsome we are?

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Speaker 3: You get that's not going to happen.

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Speaker 4: That happens.

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Speaker 2: But anyways, Matt, it's time now to get to the

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Speaker 2: fantasy football focus. This being Wednesday, let's take a look

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Speaker 2: at who is in who is out this week thus

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Speaker 2: far in practices. Trent Williams with an ankle injury, sidelined

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Speaker 2: on Wednesday, and they're a mess right now. Off the field,

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Speaker 2: he deal with some stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that team in general just feels curts this year a.

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Speaker 2: Little bit, Yeah, a little bit. Both Darnell Mooney and

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Speaker 2: Drake London this week. Mooney has an achilles and slash

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Speaker 2: rest did not participate in practice today. Drake London was

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Speaker 2: limited in practice today for Atlanta Falcons.

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Speaker 3: And again, folks, just like we opened the first hour,

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Speaker 3: this is Wednesday and people are getting rested even more

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Speaker 3: than earlier in the season. Don't go crazy, but be

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Speaker 3: aware of this stuff. I think her cousin is.

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Speaker 2: Going to get bad eventually they fall out of this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think he's a game war too

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Speaker 3: from getting the act.

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Speaker 2: We're not that long ago from when people were saying

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Speaker 2: the Steelers should have signed Kirk Cousins instead of Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not certain he's even gonna be an NFL

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Speaker 3: starter next year.

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Speaker 2: It's been pretty bad. He does not want to get

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Speaker 2: hit at all.

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Speaker 3: No, he doesn't protect himself. Well, I mean, he makes

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Speaker 3: really bad decisions. I think he could end up being

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Speaker 3: like a Flacco was a number two or something along

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Speaker 3: those lines. Like if I'm the Giants Raiders, I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh. Baker Mayfield dealing with an achilles and a knee.

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Speaker 2: He was a full participant in practice on Wednesday, but

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Speaker 2: that you never like to hear that achilles thing.

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Speaker 3: No, I was shocked when Mooney had an achilles. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Achilles is usually out, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: how do you soreness?

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Speaker 2: I used to have to deal with that when I

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Speaker 2: was still playing basketball into my thirties, even late thirties,

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Speaker 2: like three or four times a week, my achilles would

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Speaker 2: just be killing me. And I kept waiting for that

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Speaker 2: day when it just went and rolled up and I'm like, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Does that mean there's like a tiny partial tear there?

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Speaker 2: Just I don't know. It was just general soreness and

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Speaker 2: then in that achilles, and you know, I'd take a

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Speaker 2: week off and it would feel better, and then I'd

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Speaker 2: go back and play, and you know, two weeks later,

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Speaker 2: it's it's hurting again. It's just not good.

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Speaker 3: People can't see this at home, but Justin, you know,

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Speaker 3: an achilles is it'll snap and all the way up

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Speaker 3: in the back of your leg.

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Speaker 2: Justin doesn't like that.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna pass out. He was saying this going up, Yeah, Achilles,

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Speaker 3: give him the willies. Yeah he's over there and wincing

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Speaker 3: thinking about Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Bucky Irving hip and back issues mispractice on Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: He's a superstar for fantasy, right, Yeah. I mean he's

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Speaker 3: getting all the touches. He's even taken Rashard White's stuff.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's great signs.

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Speaker 2: If he doesn't play a lot.

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Speaker 3: Of touches last week, yeah, he'll probably just rest.

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Speaker 2: But if he doesn't play White, they're both.

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Speaker 3: You know, useful at that point. I don't think they

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Speaker 2: Tristian Wurf's with the foot and knee on any big practice, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, so they're they're a little banged up.

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Speaker 3: Like Trent Williams. I mean, it's a difference. He's one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a big game for them this week, or

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Speaker 2: Tampa's they have. I forget who they have this week,

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Speaker 2: but was somebody they should beat. They have a very

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Speaker 2: easy rested Atlanta's at Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and Atlanta beat them twice head to head, so

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Speaker 3: they have to get one game up and just kind

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Speaker 2: Mike Evans hamstring and calf didn't practice on Wednesday, who

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Speaker 2: did practice for them.

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Speaker 3: I no one practice for the Steelers either.

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Speaker 2: But these are all injuries though, these are right. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Alexander Madison with an ankle limited on Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Okay, is Abdullah the one? Do we know that at

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Speaker 3: this point? Hmmm?

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Speaker 2: Uh, Sincere they're gonna get a bomb. They signed Sincere

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Speaker 2: McCormick to their active roster. He was on their practice

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Speaker 2: that because somebody's going to probably try to sign him

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Speaker 2: off of that, So they signed him to the active roster.

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Speaker 2: Zamir White with a quad also didn't practice today.

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Speaker 3: He had He's had a really bad year. Yeah. I

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Speaker 3: don't know if he'd even get back in the mix.

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Speaker 3: So it might be McCormick. It might be McCormick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a dart throw if you go to Blank's

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Speaker 2: mode THEFS Uh yeah, yeah, but maybe we should look

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Speaker 2: in the raided running back stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we picked the squad.

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Speaker 2: Uh Jyr Alexander. They play Thursday night. He was ruled

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Speaker 2: out for that Week fourteen game against Detroit.

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Speaker 3: Okay, their defense has been okay, I mean the pass

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Speaker 3: rush hasn't been great. Alexander's obviously a difference maker, huge game.

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Speaker 2: Romeo Dobbs also rolled out for that game with a concussion.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, I'm not wishing a concussion on anyone,

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Speaker 3: but it does help clarify the receiver situation a little

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Speaker 3: bit when one of them is out of the mix.

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Speaker 2: On the plus side of that, for Green Bay, Josh

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Speaker 2: Jacobs with the calf injury off the injury report.

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Speaker 3: Okay, And folks, just so you know, I mean the

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Speaker 3: Lions and Packers, this is not a short week for them.

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Speaker 3: This is a full week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they played basically, Yeah, they both played Thanksgiving, so

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Speaker 2: it's not social.

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Speaker 3: Makers did some good stuff there.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Foster Moreau with a shoulder injury limited on Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: The only reason I mentioned is that Taysom Hill is out. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: so maybe Foster gets a couple of catches. I doubt it.

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Speaker 3: Maybe. I mean, I'm sure he'll be out there in

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Speaker 3: twelve personnel. Yeah, I wouldn't get too excited about it.

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Speaker 2: Kendrey Miller.

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Speaker 3: The other tight end there though, is Yeah there's a chance.

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Speaker 2: Juwan Johnson, but he was limited today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know there's something with him too.

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Speaker 2: Kendrey Miller practiced in full on Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: I think he's on IR or they just pulled him

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Speaker 3: off for.

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Speaker 2: About They just recently designated him to return, so this

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Speaker 2: was a full practice and he's been designated in return,

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Speaker 2: so he could I could see them wanting to get

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Speaker 3: And he had something you need to know, you know,

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Speaker 3: like he might be a good guy for like your

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Speaker 3: your super Bowl, Like you really need to run Kamar

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Speaker 3: into the ground in week seventeen and eighteen of the

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Speaker 3: season if you're the same, that's right, I mean, so,

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Speaker 3: I mean you get a good look at Miller. See

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Speaker 3: if you need a draft one or not.

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Speaker 2: Bob means officially limited on Wednesday with an ankle. He's

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Speaker 2: also been out for several weeks. He was also designated

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Speaker 2: to return, so it doesn't look as positive for him,

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Speaker 2: but they need another receiver and.

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Speaker 3: Say their skill position stuff is a messy.

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Speaker 2: Prior to getting hurt, he was actually starting.

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Speaker 6: To do it well.

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Speaker 2: He looked pretty good. Yeah, did some stuff. Yeah, as

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Speaker 2: you mentioned earlier in the show, Trevor Lawrence with a

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Speaker 2: concussion officially placed on injury reserve. That will shut him

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Speaker 2: down from this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a wrap. I mean in line gets the

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Speaker 3: first overall pick. Does do you a hard time starting

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Speaker 3: like Thomas or Ingram or the backs or I mean

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Speaker 3: their skill guys are all pretty fantasy relevant. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean it doesn't help.

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Speaker 2: It's not great. It's not what they were with Laurence. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's okay, it's okay. I don't think I mean the receivers,

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Speaker 2: especially because they're gonna be in catch up mode constantly.

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Speaker 2: Their defense is awful.

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Speaker 3: Mac Jones has been okay. I mean he's put up

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Speaker 3: some numbers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, mostly in ketchup model like portals like exact forman say,

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Speaker 2: very Jaguar esque Treylon Burks with an A C L

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Speaker 3: It's pretty close to saying he's in bust to neighborhood here. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Jalen Cocher with the quad injury. He practiced him full

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Speaker 2: on Wednesday. Okay, somebody did not forget about no. I.

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Speaker 2: Actually he has traded for him yesterday in a dynasty league.

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Speaker 3: I'm rebuilding. I think he's got a bright future, but

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Speaker 3: now all of a sudden, the receiver position is a

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Speaker 3: little crowded. I talked about theland yesterday. I'm surely Get's

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Speaker 3: gonna get plenty of time. Former Panther wide receiver just

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Speaker 3: got suspended former.

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Speaker 2: Stealers for a game by the Ravens for contract detrimental

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Speaker 2: to the team. Apparently on the release and they talked

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Speaker 2: about They said he refused to go into the game.

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Speaker 3: La right, and then you mentioned this off the air.

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Speaker 3: They got to buy this week and then he suspended

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Speaker 3: and seasons almost.

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Speaker 2: Like they're gonna stay away from the organization here for

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Speaker 2: a week.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you cut him.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Uh. Jatavian Sanders with that neck injury

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Speaker 2: officially limited on Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it looks like they're really pushing these young guys

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Speaker 3: to fish out of season.

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Speaker 2: He gets if he gets back into it. They were

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Speaker 2: throwing him the ball.

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Speaker 3: No, no, I think that offense is relevant.

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Speaker 2: Amari Cooper with a wrist, logged a full practice on Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Curtis Samuel with a foot was limited.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So is a Mary Cooper fantasy starter every week,

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Speaker 3: no doubt.

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Speaker 2: I can't look at what happened in the last week's

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Speaker 2: game and say one way or the other.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know it's tough, and it's a perfect

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Speaker 3: example for late Mike Williams. I mean, these receivers have

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Speaker 3: change teams that late. It's hard to get on board,

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Speaker 3: it really is. Yeah, and Cooper had some injuries.

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Speaker 2: You know, Davonte Smith with a hamstring practiced on Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Okay, they could use them. He's been out a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Goddard's probably I don't know what godd situation is, but doesn't

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Speaker 3: sound good.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals signed Kadi York to their practice squad because

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Speaker 2: Evan McPherson expected to miss a few weeks with a

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Speaker 2: groin injury. That's significant because Evan McPherson gets to kick

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Speaker 2: a lot. And they play the Cowboys this week. But

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Speaker 3: Real quick on haul Like, it's a little early for

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Speaker 2: That, especially teams that have already had their bye week, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not a bad player. I don't think he's

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Speaker 2: No, Keishawn Vaughan added to the forty nine ers practice squad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody's getting elevated. I mean they lost to so

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how about this one? Finally, Marshawn Lattimore on track

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Speaker 3: I mean, what's different about him than some of these

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Speaker 2: Yeah, DJ reader considered day to day.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I need to look into the Lion injuries more.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't look like they're gonna have Taylor Decker this week, Okay.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like some of it. Yeah, that's about Reynolds.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty much it for the fantasy news of the day.

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Speaker 2: This Deontay Johnson stuff. You know, the people who ran

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Speaker 3: Well, it's not like you an opportunity to get on

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Speaker 2: That's why when you when you make some trades like that, especially,

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Speaker 2: in you know, there's been none of this kind of stuff. No, no, right, right,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I wonder if Deonta is quickly going down

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Speaker 2: But Matt, that's going to do it for the fantasy

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Speaker 3: Let's whatever his interest will be in the off season,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure, let's get through a break. He

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Speaker 2: Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and Matt We

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Speaker 2: got to see the debut of Hard Knox last night

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And you know again with the stuff with

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00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,320
Speaker 2: Herbig and we'll get to hear from my Nick Herbig

440
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,960
Speaker 2: here a little bit. In the final segment of the show.

441
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:57,320
Speaker 2: I talked to him about the episode last night, just

442
00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,120
Speaker 2: driving home the point that hey, you got you got

443
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,960
Speaker 2: one of the big matchups this week. Yeah, yeah, you know,

444
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,120
Speaker 2: you got you got Orlando Brown this week, and if

445
00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,160
Speaker 2: you win that matchup, we're gonna win this game. This game,

446
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,720
Speaker 2: and then not only saying it to him every single

447
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 2: time he saw him during the week, saying it on

448
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:19,159
Speaker 2: the sideline during the game, saying it in the team meeting. Yeah, yeah,

449
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,440
Speaker 2: you know, call it a second year guy, Like, hey, dude,

450
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,919
Speaker 2: you got to win this. We expect you to win this,

451
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 2: and he's hoping you win this. We expect you to win.

452
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,879
Speaker 3: This, and he's not saying it to every player in

453
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,040
Speaker 3: every matchup. I mean, he knew that was a critical

454
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 3: one that there's'll be a lot of one on one.

455
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,639
Speaker 3: Of course, DJ is gonna get a ton of attention. And

456
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,439
Speaker 3: you know, with a young Ray tackle in particular, if

457
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,200
Speaker 3: we can win that matchup one v one high percent

458
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,200
Speaker 3: of the time, we're gonna be really tough to beat.

459
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, lo and behold right right, And it was the

460
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,359
Speaker 2: key to the game. Yeah, you get the stripsack and

461
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 2: touchdown off of that, and it's like you see Tomlin's

462
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,360
Speaker 2: reaction on the sideline to that, just like.

463
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 3: It was right, that's what we're talking about.

464
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 2: It we're talking about And then he pulls herbig aside

465
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 2: and said, hey, that's what we you know that, that's

466
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:04,399
Speaker 2: who you are right now.

467
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 3: I got a kick out of the episode, and part

468
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:07,879
Speaker 3: of it was I put I spent a year in

469
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 3: the Browns facility two and I like the Ravens facility.

470
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 3: It's all brick and you know, kind of old right, right.

471
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 3: I kind of like how they do things too. But

472
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 3: I'm Bengals not as much, but no, I think it's

473
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 3: gonna be a good series too.

474
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 2: When you see something like that, it does kind of

475
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 2: point out the differences between the other three teams and

476
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 2: the Bengals.

477
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I have never been in the Bengals facility,

478
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,199
Speaker 3: but I spent a ton of time in the Browns.

479
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 2: One their facility is the stadium. Yeah, there's They're one

480
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 2: of the few teams that are still working out at

481
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 2: their stadium, the practice fields. When you're driving into into

482
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 2: Cincinnati from the airport in Kentucky, you come across the

483
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 2: bridge and their practice fields are right there on the right,

484
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 2: next to the stadium. They now have an indoor bubble.

485
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 3: It's kind of like how three Rivers used to be

486
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 3: right like in their cleats.

487
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 2: Walking they had to walk across the street and Lambert

488
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 2: those guys, right and and but they're they're practiced or

489
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 2: quote unquote indoor practice facility is basically just a.

490
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,400
Speaker 3: Bubble over that. Yeah.

491
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it's it's about three blocks away down

492
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 2: the street from the stadium, so the players have to

493
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 2: walk all the way over there. Not that I mean, but.

494
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 3: It's these are billion dollar, multi billion dollar organization.

495
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,400
Speaker 2: Walking in your spikes on the you know, like.

496
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean one of the Steelers used to practice

497
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,199
Speaker 3: way back when I was referring to is now a

498
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 3: parking lot because it should be a parking lot because

499
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 3: it was to the stadium, right.

500
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 2: I can remember, like when the Steelers used to when

501
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 2: they wanted to practice on grass when they were still

502
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 2: headquartered at three of their stadium. They had to go

503
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 2: past there was the warehouse, I think it was Kaufman's

504
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 2: warehouse or whatever. Walk across that walk across the freeway

505
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:58,120
Speaker 2: to get to this fifty yard grass practice facility yard made,

506
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,719
Speaker 2: you know, and so it wasn't even a full field.

507
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 2: And it's kind of the same thing that the Bengals

508
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 2: are doing now. The Steelers graduated away from that thirty years.

509
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 3: Ago before I was in this business, right, And say

510
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 3: what you want about the Browns, but that facility we

511
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 3: didn't want for anything. I mean, they spent a lot

512
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 3: of money.

513
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 2: They showed them. They had the facility, they had the

514
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 2: into the room set up for uh elevation room, oh yeah,

515
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 2: at a lower oxygen level and you can go in

516
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 2: there and work out before that, you know, that kind

517
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 2: of stuff like.

518
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, they spend a buck in like little things like

519
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 3: if I went into WVU with a scuff on my shoes,

520
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 3: I heard about it, like come get a new pair

521
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 3: of shoes, you know, like anything you wanted all the time.

522
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 3: I mean it's a multi billion dollar organization, you know.

523
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bengals don't.

524
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 3: They don't run it that way.

525
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 2: They do more offer them, Yeah, which is in some

526
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 2: ways is good, but other ways sure bad.

527
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 4: Sure.

528
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 3: I mean it's probably less attractive to several athletes that

529
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 3: if you're picking between three teams, they might be last. Yeah,

530
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, I don't know. We talked about after

531
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 3: the Bengals game. I could see rocky roads ahead for

532
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 3: both Ohio organizations for different reasons.

533
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, just some of the ways that

534
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 2: the coaches kind of handled the room as well. And

535
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 2: not even just the head coaches.

536
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 3: Though there was the episode Brownsow Line coach.

537
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 2: Brownsow Line coach yelling and screaming at his offensive line

538
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 2: about you know, and and just nonsensical stuff.

539
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,479
Speaker 3: Yeah. I didn't quite get that that was not painted

540
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 3: in a great light there, Yeah, in that one. But no,

541
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 3: I was very impressed with Tomlin. I liked when he

542
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,959
Speaker 3: was sitting there watching film with the you know, the

543
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 3: coaches too, and if that's what they're showing, you think

544
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 3: of the insights that they're not right.

545
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were willing to give you that part.

546
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

547
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 2: I also thought it was interesting to see some of

548
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 2: the sideline stuff with Russell Wilson and the way he

549
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 2: reacted to different things, like the interception and he's right

550
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 2: back and like, you know, guys, we're fine, yea, And

551
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 2: then they score the touchdown. He's going to the easter

552
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 2: offensive lineman. He's shaking her hands. Hey, good job, guys.

553
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: Way to do that. That's you know, and you know.

554
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 3: It's better than I do. But it sounds like a

555
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 3: lot of quotes right after that Cincinnati game where man

556
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 3: Russ was more enthusiastic and more positive than ever, you

557
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,239
Speaker 3: know what I mean. And he's getting really comfortable here too.

558
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's a big part of it, right,

559
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 2: And he's comfortable in his own skin with who.

560
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 3: He is, he is works.

561
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 2: It just leads me back to the whole Denver situation

562
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 2: and some of the character assassination it went on with him.

563
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 2: Oh he's a phony, he's this, he's it's fake. I'm

564
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 2: like don't. I don't think you can fake that.

565
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 3: I don't think anything he's done here.

566
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 6: To me.

567
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 3: I mean I kind of thought first day of camp

568
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 3: or whatever, I'm like, of course everyone all eyes are

569
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 3: on the might as well. I'm like, is this guy

570
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,239
Speaker 3: really diva? Just you know, I'm happy to be here,

571
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 3: blah blah. I'm like, that does not That's not the

572
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 3: impression I get. I mean, I'm not best friends with him,

573
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, but just the way he's who

574
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 3: he's hanging with, how he's hanging with him, do you

575
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 3: know all that stuff? Yeah, mannerisms, they respect them, Yeah.

576
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 2: They do. Yeah, And I think it goes a lot

577
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 2: of it goes back to it's kind of the similar

578
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 2: respect that we saw in the Steelers' locker room when

579
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 2: they signed Michael Vick. Okay, Michael Vick was clearly at

580
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 2: the end of his career, he was done, but they

581
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 2: he was a legend. He's a legend, and he's a legend.

582
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 2: He's a guy, you know, he was one of the

583
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 2: first of his kind. You know, this is the guy

584
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 2: who was on the cover of Madden. Then there's the

585
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: guy who was you know, these guys when they were

586
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 2: growing up that that's who they played with. You wanted

587
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: to be Michael Vick because you could.

588
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 3: Just do anything right and he was a superhuman. Yeah,

589
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 3: that's a good point. I mean a lot of those

590
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 3: guys grew up with loving that guy. You know, had

591
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 3: posters of him on the wall type of guy.

592
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 4: You know.

593
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 2: But you see that with like just different guys in

594
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 2: that locker room and how they how they kind of

595
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 2: deferred him, and they did with Ben Roethlisberger as well.

596
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 3: I mean it was just you know, that's but Ben

597
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 3: never had to come to a new team, right, you

598
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 3: know what I mean?

599
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 2: This was this was coming in from the outside and

600
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 2: being Okay, how do you how do you handle this?

601
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 2: And I just think he's handled it really well.

602
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 3: It makes me wonder and I know it's not what

603
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 3: we're talking about, but Kirk Cousins has really struggled in Atlanta.

604
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying they underminded him by drafting Pennix,

605
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 3: but you had enough. Imagine if it was Wilson and

606
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 3: you had a first round quarterback there too.

607
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: You know, it's a different dynamic.

608
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 3: It's a much different dynamic, Like that's the guy who's

609
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 3: going to replace you and you're new, you haven't You've

610
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: had a great career, but you've been put ating Pelts

611
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 3: on the wall here yet you don't have that respect. Yeah,

612
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 3: I mean if Wilson was sitting there with Pennix in

613
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 3: the room.

614
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 2: It was kind of similar though with Fields a little

615
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 2: bit in that, you know, you have a guy with

616
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: the Again, Fields is a high pedigree guy. He's a

617
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: former first round draft pick and has done a lot

618
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 2: of good things in the league. And you know, we

619
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 2: we we've dealt with it on this show, and people,

620
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: you know, wanted Fields to continue to be the starter.

621
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 2: But those two had a relationship because of Wilson. You

622
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 2: know Wilson, Yeah, had you know, they'd reached out to

623
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: him when he was at Ohio State in Georgia and

624
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: they had formed a relationship there that you know, And

625
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 2: I talked to Fields about it. He goes, you know this,

626
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 2: he was a guy that I you know, I admired,

627
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: you know, the way he played the game because it

628
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 2: was a similar style to the way I played.

629
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 3: No, I think there's a lot to be said for

630
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 3: that as opposed to just fantasy football. We're gonna put

631
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 3: both you guys in the same locker. You know, that's

632
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 3: not how it works, especially with quarterbacks, of course, you know,

633
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,959
Speaker 3: it's it's the highlander. There can be only one if

634
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 3: there's one leader of the team, if there's one defensive

635
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 3: lineman and the other one is his best buddy in

636
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 3: the room. Okay, we'll be fine, we'll figure it out.

637
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 3: But the quarterbacks need to they can have a rivalry,

638
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 3: they can compete. Of course, if they don't, there's something

639
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 3: wrong with them, you know, I mean, you still want

640
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 3: to start. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, but I think

641
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 3: that they handled that dynamic really really well.

642
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: And I think part of it is because of those

643
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 2: two guys in that relationship that they had.

644
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 3: So I wonder how like Atlanta's how that feels, you know,

645
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 3: with a new guy, especially coming up with injury, you

646
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 3: can't improve yourself, you know.

647
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: The other cool thing was was that Tomlin telling the players, Hey,

648
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 2: if you got don't have a place to go for Thanksgiving?

649
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was cool. Yeah, you know, and they hate

650
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 3: were brothers too. I happened to be Thanksgiving week, which

651
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 3: was cool too. And I feel like Cam's gonna be

652
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 3: pretty impressive in this thing too.

653
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Cam's Cam's Cam. Yeah, I kind of

654
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 2: joke with him today because Tomlin said yesterday it is

655
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: a press conference. Cam's been here for twenty five years.

656
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, I walked over to Cam today, I'm like,

657
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: you're gonna let Mike hang twenty five years now on you.

658
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: He just likes to say that stuff because he knows

659
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: it ticks me off, and like whatever motivates you right again,

660
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 2: pushing the right bush.

661
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 3: And the buttons. Yeah, yeah, And I'm sure that they

662
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 3: probably heard about it going into Cincinnati on a ten

663
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 3: day rest, and they're probably still hearing about it, especially

664
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 3: that d line. Remember how you played against the Brownies. Yeah,

665
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 3: they'll watch that Brown's tape. You're happy with that? Yeah,

666
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 3: but I bet it's still fresh on their mind a.

667
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 2: Little bit, yeah, a little bit. Yeah. As Carl Dunbar said,

668
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: when when Daddy's not happy, nobody's happy and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

669
00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: they were not happy about that one.

670
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 3: That was good stuff. I urge everyone to check it out.

671
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 3: And I thought Tomlin was kind of the start of

672
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 3: the show. Yeah.

673
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: And you know, if you have this theory and it's

674
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 2: still out there because I get it. Terry Bradshaw said, However,

675
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: many years ago, Mike Tomlin's a cheerleader, and I still

676
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 2: see that thrown about, Oh he's just a cheerleader, coach,

677
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 2: You have no clue that watch these shows, right and

678
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: tell me that all he does is cheerlead.

679
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 3: He has a pulse of everything that goes on the organization. Yeah,

680
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 3: I mean, big time in Belichick kind of way. You know,

681
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 3: knows every little bit that's happening, right.

682
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 2: I mean you see a difference sitting down with Danny

683
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 2: Smith and talking about protections and things of that nature,

684
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: Like sure, yeah, he's got he's got his finger on

685
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 2: the pulse of every room in that building.

686
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 3: Big time, as much as any head coach going right now,

687
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 3: I think, to be very honest with you, I mean,

688
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 3: he's a I forget Mike Lombardi calls it. He's the

689
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 3: chief fixer upper guy, you know, like what's up fires?

690
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 3: You know, like there's so many fires we never see

691
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 3: because that they don't get raging out of control because

692
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 3: he puts them out immediately, you know what I mean.

693
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 3: That's that's a big job of a head coach.

694
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: It really is, and it's I think it's a big

695
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 2: reason why the guys who still want to be play

696
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 2: callers on one side of the ball. I think that's

697
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: why it doesn't work.

698
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 3: I think it's brutal. I mean, if you're Andy Reid,

699
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,239
Speaker 3: I mean, okay, you're a special guy, but you're out,

700
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 3: you're biting off more and you can chew. I mean,

701
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 3: you don't see it anymore. But he used to be

702
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 3: some of these coaches would also be GM. So I'm like,

703
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 3: what do you You're asking too much? Man?

704
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't. You don't have time to scout during

705
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 2: the season.

706
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 3: No, right, I mean you got the fer and I

707
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 3: mean it's not even the same skill set necessarily, you know.

708
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 3: I mean, like just be the head coach.

709
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, be a CEO type and the thing you know,

710
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: when Tomlin was asked about his potential to burn out

711
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 2: in this business on Tuesday, and he said, look, I'm

712
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 2: not going to burn out on this, he said, I

713
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: this is my hobby. This is what I love, and

714
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: this is my hobby. This is football is what I do.

715
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I mean my life's way different than Mike Tomlins.

716
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: But people ask me all the time, like when you are

717
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 3: gonna retire? I guess when people stop wanting to listen

718
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 3: to me, because this is what I would you know,

719
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 3: like right, I mean, if I was an accountant, my

720
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 3: free time would be doing NFL stuff, you know, Yeah,

721
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 3: yeah right, I mean it's kind of the same deal.

722
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 3: If that's what you love, great.

723
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he certainly does love it. Yeah, if you

724
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 2: watch this show and you got to get HBO to

725
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: to do that, but yeah, if you watch the show,

726
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: I think you'll come away with a different just I think,

727
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 2: a better understaneling and general understanding of hows and.

728
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 3: Why he's been so successful. It's not an accident and

729
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 3: another non losing season, win playoff game. Like you know

730
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 3: how hard it is to go season after season without

731
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 3: having a down year. I mean it's in this game

732
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 3: with injuries and picking late in the first round, you

733
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: don't pick up top five ever, you know, I mean

734
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 3: it's brutal.

735
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cleveland's going to have another top five pick this year,

736
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 2: Cincinnati's gonna probably have another top ten pick this year.

737
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 3: Jacksonville's probably going to have the first pick overall three

738
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 3: out of five years.

739
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: And you still stink, and you still stink.

740
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, what if he gave that to Tom One? Yeah,

741
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

742
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, when he talks about, you know, on the sideline

743
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: with you know, he's been miked up in the past,

744
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: and he's joking with Chase Young. I never planned on

745
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: being high enough to draft somebody.

746
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 3: Like you, yeah, which is a compliment, yeah, you know,

747
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 3: and it's also a little pat of my own back

748
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 3: that we don't pick the top. Yeah.

749
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 2: And yet somehow you still get kitting the Cam Haywards

750
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: of the word, you still get the T. J.

751
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 3: Watson all these guys, right. Absolutely, Yeah, it's not bad,

752
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 3: not bad at all.

753
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, out good. Absolutely.

754
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 6: Uh.

755
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: One of the guys that again was featured and during

756
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: the show was was Herbig and uh, there was a

757
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: lot out there to pick through with him, and so

758
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 2: I wanted to talk to him about that today and

759
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: found him in the locker room, so we'll hear what

760
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 2: he had to say about some of the stuff that

761
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 2: happened in the show. Uh, And some of the stuff

762
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: that was picked up in the show anyways didn't really

763
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: happen in the show. The show just happens. The football

764
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 2: is what's taking place. The show is just they're kind

765
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: of taking apart seeing all. Yeah while they're at that,

766
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 2: but they're just capturing the moments. So I did talk

767
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 2: to her Big about that today. We'll hear that when

768
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: when we come back. He is Matt Williamson. I am

769
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here on the

770
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network. We'll be back to finish up the

771
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 2: show right after.

772
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 4: This at least.

773
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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

774
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

775
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

776
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is the Matt

777
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 2: Williamson and Matt one of the guys. We just kind

778
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 2: of touched on a little bit there in the previous

779
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 2: segment talking about the Hard Knocks episode last night. Was

780
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 2: Nick Krbig and the way Mike Tomlin handled him a

781
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: little bit in that show I thought was interesting. And

782
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: so I saw her Big in the locker room today

783
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 2: and I said, I'm gonna go ask him some questions

784
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 2: about that. Actually I went looking for him in the

785
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: locker room and good found him there.

786
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 3: Scope out for sure, absolutely, and he's been phenomenal.

787
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: He's been on he's been on a bit of a

788
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 2: tear since.

789
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 3: He joined the league. I mean just pastoral. I mean

790
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 3: efficiency per pass rush snap is really really high and

791
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 3: no knocking anybody else, but he's gonna be hard to

792
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 3: take off the field.

793
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to figure out ways to do that.

794
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 2: And yeah, I expect that they'll find some ways to.

795
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 3: Do I would lighten TJ's load a little bit. You know,

796
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 3: That's we've got a big picture to think about here.

797
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 3: Maybe ten snaps less of game and put over over

798
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: there or something. Yeah.

799
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: So, and he's capable of doing those kind of things.

800
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna pat myself on the head here, but uh,

801
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it. He was. He was my dude

802
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 2: going into that draft two years. Oh yeah, remember I

803
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: was a big Herbig fan. I mean, the motor just

804
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 2: is runs constantly and he is a nightmare to block.

805
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 3: He really is. I mean he really got the better

806
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 3: of Orlando Brown too.

807
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, just to him up a little bit. But let's

808
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: hear what Nick Herbig had to say.

809
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 5: Obviously, watching Hard Knocks last night, and it seemed like

810
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 5: all week long like you're still you were gonna beat

811
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 5: Orlando Brown for a big play.

812
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 4: Was that the case or did they kind of played

813
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 4: it up a little bit too much?

814
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 7: No, it was, Yeah, that was literally every day emphasized that.

815
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 7: He made sure he told me that that's gonna be

816
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 7: me versus him, And here he told me that every

817
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 7: time he saw him.

818
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 5: It seemed like right before he went out and and

819
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 5: got the stripsack, he had said it again.

820
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 4: Was that happening throughout the game or was it?

821
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was every I guess every time I saw

822
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 6: him that there was the same thing.

823
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 5: Did that put I mean, is that kind of reinforce

824
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 5: kind of what you're I mean, you know, you gotta

825
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 5: beat the guy you're gonna get Yeah, going up again,

826
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 5: but continued to say it just it.

827
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 6: Definitely emphasizes it.

828
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 7: And like I'm I say, you're thinking about like see

829
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 7: him come out and tell you that, ye up, Like

830
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 7: it's gonna be me versus him all day and we're

831
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 7: gonna find Now.

832
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: Does that help you kind of conceptualize and visualize it

833
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: a little bit more?

834
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 6: For sure?

835
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 7: You know, especially when like coach Toman is saying that

836
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 7: to you, Like it's not like it's you know, respect

837
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 7: like any of the other coaches, but like it's coach

838
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 7: Tomlan saying that, so.

839
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 4: He knows your your matchups are cute.

840
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, man, him pointing that out to you in front

841
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 7: of the team is like, oh, we're gonna find out,

842
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 7: like I'm putting you on this pedestal.

843
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 6: And we're gonna see if you're really about that action.

844
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 3: That's how I feel it.

845
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 4: I mean, just him, he seems to push the right

846
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 4: buttons with everybody.

847
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he definitely does. He knows how to push those.

848
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 4: With Alec coming back now, you expect to still get

849
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 4: those kind of reps. I mean, I mean, I'm not

850
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 4: the usual three guys at the same time.

851
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I'm not. I'm not too sure. I just

852
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 6: know that whenever my number is called, I got to

853
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 6: uphold that standard.

854
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 5: You've obviously you got three fumbles in three straight games

855
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 5: something like that.

856
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, have you ever had a streak like this?

857
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 6: I don't know. I just I just like to win

858
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 6: football games. As long as we went, I'm happy.

859
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 4: But obviously you're You've been a big part of that.

860
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 5: You know, you get you get there Henry to fumble,

861
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 5: you got fumble a lot, and you know you get

862
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 5: to get your burrow.

863
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 7: I just think that's just the culture here, and like

864
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 7: my coach is emphasizing that, and like I have a

865
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 7: great position coach in Denzel and Dunbar and you know

866
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 7: they closed me well, they're hard on me, and you

867
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 7: know it's that's what that's what it is expected here

868
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 7: in Pittsburgh.

869
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 2: That was Steelers outside linebacker Nick Herbig go with me

870
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: earlier today and uh as you heard he Uh yeah,

871
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: Tomlin knew what buttons to push with him and uh

872
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 2: it worked.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it also helps to have a big

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Speaker 3: brother figure around. And I'm not even talking about his brother.

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Speaker 3: I forgot to talking about DJ. But yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: pretty nice dynamic and I'm pretty psyched to see hoping

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Speaker 3: it happens. But all four of those outside linebackers all

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Speaker 3: in the same on the same field together once. It's

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Speaker 3: pretty good group.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you could do a little uh, I don't even

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Speaker 2: know what package you would call you gonna take you

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Speaker 2: gonna take Cam Heyward off the field. I'm not real

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Speaker 2: psyched about that, but I mean it's a nice problem

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Speaker 2: to have that you've got too many good edge rushers. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you can just come at the waves. But Matt, that's

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Speaker 2: going to do it for the show today?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely guess today. Absolutely. We thank Jimmy Rooney for stopping

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Speaker 2: by and joining us here in the in the studio.

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Speaker 2: We want to thank Bob Labriola for stopping by as

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Speaker 2: well as usual, and uh well for my partner Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 2: for Justin Miller here on site running the Justin Miller Hotline,

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Speaker 2: and for Tyler viitt Meyer here through him a little

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Speaker 2: curve ball today with the in studio guest. Can check

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Speaker 2: that out on YouTube. I am Dale, Lolly. We thank

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Speaker 2: you for listening to this edition of the Drive on

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Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network.