WEBVTT - The Ultimate Pitching Guide With Nick Pollack (EP. 763) 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:08.880 Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Bros. This is the Fantasy 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:12.680 Baseball Podcast. It would be Joey Joe Pisapia, and it's 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:15.560 time to continue our series of the ultimates. We did 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:18.560 the infield, we did the outfield. There's only one thing left, 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:21.119 and that's the Ultimate Pitching Guide, and you have to 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:23.680 say it that way. We're contractually obligated, and of course 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:26.760 the Welsh also contractually obligated to be here every single 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:29.440 show along with me. We're getting closer and closer to 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:33.360 baseball and meaningful games actually being here and speaking of 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:37.760 meaningful things, Nick Pollock always full of so much meaning, 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:41.279 so much purpose. Uh why is everyone holding baseballs up? 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:41.960 And I'm not. 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:47.239 It's a cutter. It's devastating cutter. 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:48.639 You have to get up more on the seam over 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:51.199 here with You can't just do it straight over like No, 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:51.960 I didn't. 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:53.480 Have it straight over right here. This is my cut 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:56.120 You haven't seen the cutter yet. It's coming. Circle change, 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:57.120 circle change. 0:00:57.280 --> 0:00:59.200 Oh no, we're a minute into the show and I've 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:00.000 already lost control. 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:01.280 This is the Ultimate. 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:03.400 Pitching Show, Joe. We have to show off the pitches. 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:07.559 I'm going to show off. Speaking of the picture list. 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:09.679 Nick Pollock, it's so great to see you, one of 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:13.080 our favorite people. By the way, what's what's the uh? 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:15.640 What's the grip on the slutter? Because that's a pitch 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:17.080 which a lot last year on. 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:19.400 How deep you go into cutter or a slider and 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:19.640 you're going. 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:22.440 Boy, for a second there, I thought this was gonna 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:25.399 go way off the track. Let's I thought it. 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:27.560 Was gonna be like a really deep circle change. 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:31.399 Whoa, whoa? Nick? Nick Pollock, you know you are the 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:33.520 pitching guru. You're the guy. I gotta ask you this question. 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:35.959 I guess I've never asked you this before. Who is 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:38.959 your favorite all time pitcher? I feel like everybody has one. 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:41.000 Maybe there was that guy that like caught your imagination 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:43.000 when you were a kid. Was there somebody pollocked that way? 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:46.959 Guess my guy, let's guess my answer is going to 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:48.280 be who was my idol growing up? 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:52.280 Okay idol growing up? Where were you born? Nick Pollock? 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.200 Maybe if you don't know the information, you're already behind. 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:56.800 So it's gonna be East Coast Joe and Nick is 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:58.520 probably nobody. 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:00.760 He's not from Brooklyn. I'm from brook he just lives there. 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:09.760 Take a guess, am I right nor raised in Brooklyn. Yes, 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:12.720 I can't believe that you have zero trace of any 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:13.600 accent whatsoever. 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:16.320 My guess is Greg Maddox. Joe, don't tell us yet, 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:19.040 Nick minus Greg Maddox. You pick one, and then Nick unveils. 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:20.960 I think he's a I don't think that's sexy enough. 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.840 I think he's a Pedro Martinez guy. Nick Pollock, what 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:24.040 are you? 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:25.080 Okay, hold on a second. 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:27.360 So you think that I just told you I was 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:30.440 born and raised in Brooklyn and my idol growing up 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.160 would be Pedro Martinez, Well. 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:34.480 I mean, I gotta be honest with you. I'm a 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:36.320 lifelong Mets fan and he's still one of my all 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:40.440 time favorites. He was, Well, I mean, if you there's 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:42.760 you're not old enough to love Dwight Gooden like I am. 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:46.760 So okay, you're getting there, Okay, So it's David was 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:50.160 the one that I would actually model my wind up after. 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:52.680 David Kohn. Okay, good story. 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:56.760 Also, by the way, Nick, during first Pitch Arizona, he 0:02:57.080 --> 0:03:00.160 made an example of me by doing a trick pitch 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:02.359 when we were playing a whiffle ball game and Nick 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:05.000 was just he Nick was just having fun with everybody. 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:07.600 Welsh gets up here and he does this thing. 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:08.360 What did you do? 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:11.720 He like pretended he threw and it flicked underhand. 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.119 I've never seen anything like he really describe it over 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:17.000 a podcast, but it was magical that I still want. 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:19.240 To do our charity event where I get three at 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:22.120 bats against Nick Pollock because I still feel great. 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:25.160 I haven't actually thrown properly off a mountain for a 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:26.080 very long good. 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.359 I haven't properly hit off a guy with a rag 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:29.760 arm in a while, so it'll be fun. 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:32.400 I just get you, have ice in advil with you. 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:35.280 That's all. 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And of course you can 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:50.800 claim your prize, gentlemen, Let's get to the sp ones 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:53.880 coming in at number one consensus right now, Spencer Striider 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:55.920 at one, Garrett Coole at two, Corbyn Burns at three, 0:04:56.320 --> 0:05:00.440 Zach Wheeler four, Gossman, Luis Castillo, Pablo Lopez, George Kirby, 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:04.640 Zach Gallon at nine, Tyler glassnew to reschoogl and Yoshinobu 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:06.799 Yemen Mu two, Which is how I say it every 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:10.360 single time. So I want to start here towards the top. 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:12.440 Let's start with Corbyn Burns. He's in a new spot, 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:15.480 Nick Pollock. How does that move to Baltimore affect him 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:18.800 positively or maybe even potentially negatively in your mind? And 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:21.080 is he worthy of this number three spot that he's 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:21.920 currently occupied. 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:23.000 Where did you grow up in Brooklyn? 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:27.360 I grew up in Mill Basin. Yeah, Crime Family Block. 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:28.119 Oh yeah, I played. 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:29.760 I got some stories. 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:32.000 I coached that that field too, Did you really? 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:36.880 I played in Parks Play there you go? Anyway, two 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:38.440 guys from Brooklyn with no accent. 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:39.520 West coast, West coast. 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:41.080 If you want me having an accent, that can do that, 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:43.240 if you want me to do that. But anyway, I 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:45.680 know no one will never want nobody does. In fact, 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:49.599 Corvin Burns going to Baltimore helps him. Obviously, Waltimore is 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:52.440 a good thing for him. It's just a better situation overall. 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:56.760 I do think that there are simple changes that Burns 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:59.240 can make across his entire arsenal from last year that 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:02.240 aren't asking too much. And it's always funny when we 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:05.440 think about down seasons when it was still such a 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.720 good performance. Yeah, if you rostered Corn Burns last year, 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:10.279 you'll know it was a lot of ebbs and flows 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:12.479 of disaster and all of a sudden he was great 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:14.960 and then disaster and it was very stressful. And I 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:17.560 think it's pretty simple for him to say, Okay, kurveball 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:19.600 was thrown a little bit worse than it usually is. 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:22.120 Let's get that more in the zone than he used 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:25.279 to have a focus of that, maybe changing the cutter slightly, 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:28.520 usage of the slider change. There are these little tweaks 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:31.680 that in retrospect are pretty easy I think to change. 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:33.840 So he is my SP three now. 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:37.359 He was SB four before underneath the wheeler, but to 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:40.680 Baltimore and just just looking into that more, I was like, yeah, 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:41.960 this should be a really good fit for him. 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:43.800 I was really curious where you were going to go 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:47.280 with this if the slider usage uptick in Baltimore might 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:48.320 be something that would change. 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:48.839 I'm just curious. 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:53.560 So do you think the team context in Baltimore contract 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:57.080 you know contracts, the one as versus pitch mix, like 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.640 what which pitch mix change or whatever they could tinker 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:03.160 like their offense and defense was Yeah, like it don't actually. 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.080 Think as an organization, doesn't really lean on it. 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:07.440 But it's really two words. It's ADLEI Ritchman. I actually 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:10.280 truly believe in the morale that he brings to starting 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:13.840 pitchers and he does make an impact and it's only 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:14.920 going to help Burns. 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:18.920 Yeah. Look, it's a positive impact on pitchers, certainly from 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.280 the catcher position. We've seen it with you know, everyone 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:24.000 from Pad Rodriguez to Gary Carter back in the eighties 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:26.400 to what he did for a very young Mets staff. 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.280 Even you know the years of Yadi or Malino, twenty 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:31.600 years of Cardinal pitchers who all just swear by it. 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:33.960 Catching does matter without a doubt. I want to keep 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:36.960 going on this list too, because we've got two guys 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:40.600 here pretty close to each other, Zach Gallen and Tarik 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:42.720 School just had one hundred the other day in a 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:45.640 bullpen session. I was reading that this morning. And then 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:48.360 Zach Gallen, who Look, it's hard to find holes in 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:52.080 Zach Gallen from last year. However, Welsh, I want to 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:54.000 start with Gallen for a second set these two up here. 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:55.880 If he got the board to yourself and he can 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:58.360 only pick one. My whole thing with Gallen is, you know, 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:00.240 he had the two hundred and ten innings, but then 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.280 two hundred and forty three when you factor in the 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:06.800 sixty more that he had, you know, throughout the playoffs 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.200 there actually say it's sixty more than his previous high. 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:11.480 Pardon me, but two hundred and forty three total for 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:13.720 Zach Gallen. That's a big number for Gallon. Do you 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:16.480 think there's any potential lag there? And then on the 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.640 other side, we're talking about School, who did not have 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:20.640 nearly that amount of innings and we're worried, Okay, does 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:22.280 he hit a weird wall when he starts to get 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:25.040 up to one hundred and fifty two or he might fatigue? 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:27.000 So School or Gallon? Who would you rather have in 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:28.040 this sp one tier? 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:30.680 Yeah, I mean not like being a Homer, but it 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:32.040 is Gallon. But I don't think I need to be 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:33.720 a homer to be able to pick zac Gallen. 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:33.840 Here. 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:37.560 The Diamondbacks have already discussed openly about the usage of Gallon. 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:39.679 That's going to be something important, which I think one 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:44.079 thing that's gonna materialize is probably a lesser spring. And then, 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:47.720 as he mentioned in conversation, this might literally just be 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:51.440 about not pushing maybe one more inning or one more 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:53.679 batter and trying to save where you can. They really 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:58.720 built up their bullpen, but Gallon. To me, it's not Kirby. 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:01.040 But there are these guys is that don't have these 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:04.480 really awesome, sexy strikeout numbers that I know we're all chasing, 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:07.440 but we know we have innings. You have defensive support, 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:10.800 you've got offensive support. The strikeouts are still there. There's 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:14.040 no big major walk issues. I also have always loved 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:17.280 about Gallen, the way he's comfortable pitching behind, starting up 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:19.960 with change ups. I think he is such a smart pitcher. 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:22.120 I think it's impossible to bet against him. But obviously 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:24.320 Scooble was in his short sample size one of the 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:28.120 best pitchers in baseball. Best expected dra and eighty innings 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:31.160 last year, huge monster strikeout numbers, But I think you 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:34.720 might be looking at a difference between thirty to maybe 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:38.160 even fifty. More realistically thirty to forty innings of difference. 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:40.080 I think the team context is a little bit better 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.080 with the Gallon, So to me, this is clearly Gallon. 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:45.240 But I understand the chase for Schooble this year, and 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:48.079 I'm dying to know Nick where you sit on these two, 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:51.400 because I think these two are probably close in close 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:54.040 in relative costs, and close in what type of team 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:55.080 construction you would want. 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:58.240 Man, I have so many thoughts about these too. I 0:09:58.280 --> 0:09:59.920 don't think I'm going to have either of them roster 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:03.959 on any of my teams. Personally, when it comes to Schooble, 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:06.960 it's fascinating to me how we care about his eighty innings, 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:09.040 but we don't care about Cole Reagan's, which makes no 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:10.960 sense to me because Cole Reagan's is a better pitcher 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:13.120 and Trek's scoobl You just. 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:14.319 Said that so effortless. 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:16.520 It's easy. I want to talk about throwing hard. 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:22.840 Reagan's SAT ninety six and I talked to him in December. 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:24.800 You can check it out on our YouTube channel, This 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:27.960 wonderful hour and a half interview with him and he's 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:32.000 throwing a little bit harder apparently, so yeah, he's really good. 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:34.560 And he has five pitches as opposed to Schoobol really 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.400 just has like two where it's a four seamer that 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:40.920 performed as well as any in the game. But all 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:45.080 the indications are that it's command and it's uh in 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:48.120 pitch shape are not actually elite. It was really the 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:51.640 two tick velocity increase that really helped it. And obviously 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:53.240 throwing ninety six one left side is a very good 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:55.679 thing for scoobl So I'm not saying that School is 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:58.320 gonna be bad. I don't see him as the eleventh 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:01.760 starting pitcher. Him hitting one hundred in the spring, that's fine. 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:04.600 I never care about hitting, always care about sitting. He 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:08.000 was sitting around ninety six last year. Hitting in one hundred, though, 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:10.040 does show to me. One concern I had about school 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:12.560 was that it was adrenaline focused the end of last 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.640 year and he wouldn't be able to maintain that for 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:18.920 twenty twenty four. Hitting one hundred implies that you are 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:21.880 not sitting ninety three ninety four now, So that is 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:23.680 a good thing for schoobl It makes me a little 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:25.600 bit more encouraged that he can't still be very effective 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:27.959 this year, but until he gets like a legitimate number 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:30.400 three pitch, because right now it's just four seamer, changeup, 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:34.200 schooble sliders more like a cutter, which apparently he's working on. 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.440 I need to see that to really believe in that one. However, 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:41.160 Zach Gallon, I've obviously been a Gallon gal for a 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:45.520 very long time. And the interesting thing about Gallon to 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:49.320 me is he does not really have this overpowering foreseamer. 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:53.360 He has a whole approach that I call the Gallon method, 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:56.160 which is low called strikes with four steamers and then 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:59.120 a curveball and change up that are so deceptive that 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:02.760 look like that fast of his hand that he gets 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:05.240 all of these chases out of the zone on it. However, 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:08.400 there's this new stuff that we have called striker, which 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:11.439 is strike minus ICRR. You probably don't understand it. It's fine. 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:14.400 All it says is that does this pitcher throw strikes? 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:17.280 And when they do throw strikes, are those strikes that 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:19.960 get hit hard. It makes sense as a pitcher always 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:21.880 trying to do is throw strikes and then hope that 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:25.640 you avoid damage, right, And Zach Gallen does not do 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:29.400 well at this In fact, the aces are all up 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:31.760 there in all the top ten or top twenty. The 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:35.400 names that Gallen is around from last season, I'm not 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:38.280 even kidding. Right above him are Bryce Elder, Patrick Sandoval, 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:44.160 David Peterson, Brandon Williamson, Zach Gallon, Rich Hill, Tony Gonsolin, 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:46.520 Dylan Sees, Charlie Moorean, Tyler Anderson. 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:48.640 Not a fun crew. 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:53.280 And what that tells me is he squeezed enough out 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:56.640 of his fastball and his secondaries at the right times. 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:59.440 I am a little worried because I think that it 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:02.160 was a little bit more fortunate in that regard. I 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:06.320 think the innings totals, as you guys mentioned, will affect him. 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:09.440 It's hard not to and it's a little bit more 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:12.280 precarious than I want for a top ten pick. 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:13.960 Who would you pick if you had to pick between them? 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.920 Though, if you're I currently have Gallon at nine, I'm 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:19.800 probably going to lower that, and I have Scooble around 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:21.360 twenty four. I'm going to raise that. 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:23.240 Whoa well Scooble. 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:25.640 For me, it's again about the fast one is not 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:26.920 going to be as good as it was and the 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:27.440 change up. 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:28.480 No, it's all fair, but. 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:31.280 He was so good last year. 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.640 It's just like that's not a large enough sample of that, 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:36.439 and also a really bad schedule. It's going to be closer, 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:37.800 but I'm going to go for a gallon just because 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:41.000 of the historical showcase of him doing well with this, 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:42.800 and last year he did go through a moment where 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:44.360 he tried to go high four seamers that didn't work, 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:47.200 and then he got it back going downstairs, so it 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:49.480 should be good. Also, the A zone Diamonbeck's defense better 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:51.640 than the Tigers, and that certainly helps him. 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:53.240 And Meryl Kelly, well, do. 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:55.439 You think that Pollock's is just making up stats now 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:56.440 like we did last year to. 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:58.280 Year he tried to get at me. It's not gonna happen. 0:13:58.880 --> 0:13:59.920 I have a hard line. 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:01.400 It's actually been acknowledged. 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:02.400 By so many people, so you should too. 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:06.120 I'm just saying, can you believe by the way that 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:08.480 we threw a fake stat at all of the people? 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:10.520 Why did you do it? Why did it was that 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:14.800 of Pollock the person that we threw X plug at. 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:16.440 One of the first ones. 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:21.520 We're not gonna throw that past stats all the time, 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:23.600 BP fastball of staf. 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:27.440 Let's go to the newest toy in Dodger Land. It 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:31.720 is Yoshinobo Yamamoto. Welsh and I have talked a lot 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:35.200 Nick about Yamamoto, and it's funny because if you go 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:36.920 back and look at you know, about a month ago, 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:39.160 ADP was very different. Now it has moved up into 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:41.800 that s P one tier, Nick, do you feel comfortable 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:43.960 with drafting him there? I know some people are concerned 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:45.680 a little bit about the size of Yamamoto, and I 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:47.800 could see you're shaking your head, so you are not comfortable. 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:49.800 That's where I was going to jump into it because, 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:53.280 like I had, I had this conversation about size of 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:56.160 pictures with many best friends justin Steel and we were 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:59.160 talking about the size of you know, like the under 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:01.680 five foot ten guy. And I saw Yamamoto and camp 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.280 and he is one of the smallest pitchers I've seen 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:08.200 in person. But like can a guy with elite extension 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:12.000 can he overcome? Like is the is the intangible the 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:14.920 thing that can overcome what literally doesn't really work in 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.440 baseball is pictures his size holding up. 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:21.480 I'm going to give a very very quick basic understanding 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:23.760 of pitch shape and what matters because I essentially went 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:27.120 through this this offseason a ton and I hate myself 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.360 for waiting as long as I. 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:30.320 Did to really have my enlightenment with it. 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:34.480 Huge props to Kyle Bland creating our Pictureless Pitches app 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:36.440 that allows me to actually visualize this and understand it 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:39.640 better and give like averages and percentiles. So there are 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:43.000 four aspects that really matter outside of location. Okay, for 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:45.920 really just for fastball shape, it's velocity. We know that 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:50.160 one throw harder, it's better awesome. You have extension, and 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:54.200 I generally around like six inches six like point two 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.240 or six point four is average, So when you get 0:15:56.240 --> 0:16:00.000 close to seven feet extension that makes such a big difference. 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:03.400 Gavin Williams his fastballs as good as it is because 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:06.080 of the velocity and the extension. Everything else that I'm 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:08.400 going to talk about actually isn't that great with Gavin Williams. 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:11.040 It's because he gets so close to it. Teleglass now 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:13.240 is the same thing. And a lot of fastballs that 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:15.800 you know that are really hard are not as effective 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:17.640 as you think it is because they don't have good extension. 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:21.040 Hunter Green's bad extension right was SCREENO back in then 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:25.320 a bad extension or bruiser gatterol doesn't get as many whifs. 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:26.000 Bad extension. 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:28.760 However, Spencer Strider has the lead extension and this velocity 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:29.600 and it's stupid good. 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.040 There you go. The other two aspects. 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:33.120 Are things that you're hearing a lot and you might 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:36.720 not really understand, which which is vert IVB. You don't 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:38.440 really have a reference point for it. I certainly didn't. 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:40.880 And when you hear that IVB and vert are the 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:42.360 same thing, it's just induced vertical break. 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:44.240 It's just better understanding of, like, this is the actual 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:44.800 movement of it. 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:48.200 When you get above sixteen inches, that's where it's great. 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:50.840 Seventeen and above, oh boy. So when we talk about 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:54.880 TODs Bradley's fastle being elite, his is eighteen vert. 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:55.960 Okay, unreal. 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:58.480 The thing is, if you have good VERT and you 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:00.480 don't have good extension and you don't have the next 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:02.800 onech is VA. I'll get to that in a second, 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:05.480 it's not going to be as good. So you essentially 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:07.119 need to have velocity and you need to have like 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.400 two of the other ones for everything to be really good. 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:11.560 Sometimes you can get by with just extension and velocity. 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:11.879 Okay. 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.879 The last one is height adjusted VA, which is oh 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.520 my gosh, that's a mouthful. All that means is where 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:19.640 you release the ball, does it come in at an 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:23.879 angle that matches the batter's bat path. So like, if 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:25.600 you're going to swing at a ball, how long does 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:28.439 it stay where the bat is? And the flatter it is, 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:31.159 the less time it is with the bat right. So, 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:33.040 because that's not flat, the bat is going to be 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:34.720 a like angle when you throw it upstairs. So if 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:36.840 you have a really low angle like Paul Seawald, that 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:39.520