WEBVTT - 9 Side Hustles of the Rich & Famous

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what, Mango, what's that will? So, of course, the

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<v Speaker 1>rock band Queen is known for hits like Don't Stop

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<v Speaker 1>Me Now and another one Bites the Dust, but their guitarist,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian May, is also known for something else. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>ready for this? He's a bonafide astro physicist. Mango, an

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<v Speaker 1>astro freakin physicist.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think I had actually heard that before,

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<v Speaker 2>But also I don't know anything beyond that one line,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like, did you know Mick Jagger started at

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<v Speaker 2>the London School of Economics, Like yeah, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know anything beyond that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And both of those things are true. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>actually let's keep this one about Brian's. Before Queen made

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<v Speaker 1>it big, he was in the midst of his doctoral research.

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<v Speaker 1>This was at the Imperial College of London and he

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<v Speaker 1>was studying something called zodiacal dust, or the zodiacal cloud specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was trying to understand how it moved through space.

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<v Speaker 2>So, uh, what is zadiical dust?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, unlike Brian, I'm not an astrophysicist in addition to

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<v Speaker 1>my day job. But as far as I understand it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a cloud made up of dust from asteroids and commets.

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<v Speaker 2>So kind of like the cloud of dust that follows

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<v Speaker 2>Pigpen around on the peanuts, like a big dust cloud.

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<v Speaker 1>He is one hundred percent like that mango. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>there's zero difference at all. But you know, Brian was

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<v Speaker 1>actually far enough along in his studies that he submitted

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<v Speaker 1>his research to his advisor. But in what ended up

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<v Speaker 1>being a stroke of luck for music fans, his advisor

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you know what, this isn't ready. You need

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<v Speaker 1>to go back and do a little bit more work.

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<v Speaker 1>And at that point, Queen was starting to take off,

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<v Speaker 1>so Brian was just like, no, thanks, I'll do this

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<v Speaker 1>band thing instead, and he left his academ program after that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you hear about people reaching a crossroads in

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<v Speaker 2>their lives, but like that feels so insane, right Like

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<v Speaker 2>Option today is like spend years in a lab analyzing

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<v Speaker 2>space dust, or Option B is tour the world, playing

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<v Speaker 2>in front of millions of screaming.

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<v Speaker 3>Fans crazy, right.

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<v Speaker 2>As rewarding his lab work might be. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't blame someone for choosing Option.

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<v Speaker 3>B, you know, and they're the band.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever we play the game, which band do you wish

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<v Speaker 1>you could have seen touring in their original form and

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<v Speaker 1>Creed is always is well, it's always the band that

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<v Speaker 1>my wife Georgia picks, but they would be way up

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<v Speaker 1>there for me. But anyway, amazing band. So it's a

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<v Speaker 1>very very cool, cool story. But here's the cool thing.

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<v Speaker 1>He actually kind of managed to have it both ways.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he didn't quit his studies completely. He never lost

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<v Speaker 1>interest in space and while he was on tour he'd

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<v Speaker 1>take other musicians outside and give them little presentations about

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<v Speaker 1>the night sky. And May said later that it's a

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<v Speaker 1>natural fit. In fact, he said, maybe it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>romantic spirit to make music that's over into curiosity about

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<v Speaker 1>the universe. He even composed a Queen B side called

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<v Speaker 1>thirty nine, and this was about space travel and the

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<v Speaker 1>theory of relativity. But there was that nagging matter of

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<v Speaker 1>the doctoral degree that he never earned. And so in

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<v Speaker 1>the two thousands, when Queen wasn't super active anymore, May

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<v Speaker 1>heard from an old friend. It was the famous UK

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<v Speaker 1>astronomer and TV host Patrick Moore who told him he

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<v Speaker 1>should go back and finish that PhD. And first May

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<v Speaker 1>was skeptical so much time had passed, but then he

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<v Speaker 1>started mentioning Moore's idea offhandedly, like in these little interviews,

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<v Speaker 1>and word must have gotten around because one day he

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<v Speaker 1>gets a call from someone at Imperial College. They invite

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<v Speaker 1>him back to the program, picks up his research, and

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and seven he successfully submits his dissertation.

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<v Speaker 1>It was titled a Survey of radial Velocities in the

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<v Speaker 1>Zodiacal dust Cloud, which that sounds legit to me, and

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<v Speaker 1>so that means he is actually sir doctor Brian May.

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<v Speaker 2>Sir doctor, sounds very impressive.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, sir doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, as you might have guessed, today on the show,

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<v Speaker 2>we're discovering side hustles of the rich and famous. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't mean boring celebrity tequila brands or ho home luxury

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<v Speaker 2>fashion deals. I am talking about a philosopher who wrote operas,

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<v Speaker 2>a nineteenth century author who created a precursor to Pinterest,

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<v Speaker 2>and an iconic musician who is also a childbirth expert.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's dive in.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, their podcast listeners, welcome to Part Time Genius. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Will Pearson and is always I'm here with my good

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<v Speaker 1>friend Mangesh hot Ticketter and over there on the booth

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<v Speaker 1>launching his own scuba certification business. I didn't see this

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<v Speaker 1>when coming Mango, I didn't guess he'd be doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is our PALIN producer, Dylan Fagan. Not what I

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<v Speaker 1>would have expected from a podcast producer. But I guess

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of the theme of today's episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's because we start every episode by saying,

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<v Speaker 2>let's dive in.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, man, I didn't even think about that. You're right.

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<v Speaker 2>So, speaking of which, let's dive in to a side

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<v Speaker 2>hustle of one Samuel Clemens aka Mark Twain, who, of

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<v Speaker 2>course was the author of books like the Adventures of

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<v Speaker 2>Huckleberry Finn The Adventures of Tom Sawyer. But what many

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<v Speaker 2>people don't know is that he was also an inventor.

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<v Speaker 2>He invented an adjustable strapped titaned garments, and a memorization game.

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<v Speaker 2>But his most successful invention by far was a scrap book.

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<v Speaker 1>You mean, like an album for keeping photos and newspaper

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<v Speaker 1>clippings and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>M hmm, exactly that. So, back in the late eighteen hundreds,

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<v Speaker 2>scrap booking was this pretty common practice for anyone who

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to collect or archive written material, and this was

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<v Speaker 2>something Clemens was really really into. Apparently he'd spend his

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<v Speaker 2>sundays collecting clippings of articles he'd written, book reviews, drawings, cartoons, photos, letters,

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<v Speaker 2>anything that caught his fancy. The problem was scrap books

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<v Speaker 2>that were available at the time just had plain blank pages,

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<v Speaker 2>so you had to glue items into them one at

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<v Speaker 2>a time, and Clemens was not into it. He got

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<v Speaker 2>tired of his blue drying out and ruining his scrap

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<v Speaker 2>book sessions. And you know how running out of glue

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<v Speaker 2>can totally ruin a sunday for you, right.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the worst.

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<v Speaker 2>In eighteen seventy three, he was tired of his sundays

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<v Speaker 2>being ruined and he patented his very own self adhering

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<v Speaker 2>scrap book. This is a book that came with a

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<v Speaker 2>thin layer of glue pre applied to every single page.

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<v Speaker 2>You just dampen the glue one page at a time

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<v Speaker 2>and then layer on all your clippings.

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<v Speaker 3>And so were people like into this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was like super super popular. The book came

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<v Speaker 2>in various styles, like different leather or cloth bindings, and

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<v Speaker 2>different sizes for all your scrap booking needs. By eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty five, Clements had actually made around fifty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>from sales of the scrap books, which is the equivalent

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<v Speaker 2>of about two million dollars today. To put that in perspective,

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<v Speaker 2>he'd earned around two hundred thousand dollars from his writing,

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<v Speaker 2>which by that point included Huck Finn and Tom Sawyer.

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<v Speaker 3>So goodness.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, the scrap booking thing had taken off. But there

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<v Speaker 2>was just one problem. The scrap books turned out to

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<v Speaker 2>be terrible for preservation. If unused ADISA got wet or

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<v Speaker 2>exposed to humidity, the pages would actually stick together and

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<v Speaker 2>they would ruin whatever was on them. So eventually other

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<v Speaker 2>people developed better scrap book technology, but Clemens version actually

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of the most popular one for about thirty years.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's wild. I was actually looking the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>I like, it really is wild how you can now

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<v Speaker 1>make virtual scrap books just on your phone. These days,

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<v Speaker 1>kids can just be so lazy about it, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I guess a lot of people still

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<v Speaker 2>do it the old fashioned way, which people find satisfying

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<v Speaker 2>for some reason, just arranging pieces of paper and photos

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<v Speaker 2>on a page. And maybe that's just because so many

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<v Speaker 2>aspects of our life are virtual today. Speaking of which

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<v Speaker 3>God, I'm so.

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<v Speaker 1>Glad that rickshaw driver finally drove you home, or you'd

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<v Speaker 1>still be stuck in India.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I definitely would anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So to our side hustles for our next fact,

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<v Speaker 1>we're traveling back to eighteenth century Europe, where Enlightenment era

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<v Speaker 1>writers and philosophers were busily debating hot topics at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking topics like political theory, individuality, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>role of religion and society. And one of the leading

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<v Speaker 1>philosophers involved in all of this was the guy we

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<v Speaker 1>remember from our high school philosophy class, Jean Jacques Rousseau. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote several influential books that you probably haven't read

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<v Speaker 1>but may remember reading about. Examples would be discourse on

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<v Speaker 1>the origin of inequality and of course the Social Contract.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you know me, well, I have not read those.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, his books are considered classics in Western philosophy. But

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<v Speaker 1>Russo actually liked to present himself professionally, not as a

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<v Speaker 1>writer or even a philosopher, but as a music copyist,

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<v Speaker 1>which is exactly what it sounds. He got paid to

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<v Speaker 1>copy sheet music, and believe it or not, it's still

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<v Speaker 1>a job. Although these days music copyists use software to

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<v Speaker 1>prepare sheet music for individual instrument It is based on

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<v Speaker 1>a composer's master score. Now, back in Rousseau's day, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>this was all done by hand, so it was incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>time consuming and very exacting work, which I guess is

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<v Speaker 1>also a true philosophy, right, that's very true. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Rousseau's love of music went well beyond copying other people's scores.

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<v Speaker 1>In seventeen fifty two, he wrote his own one act opera.

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<v Speaker 1>It was called The Village Soothsayer. It's about a young

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<v Speaker 1>couple who run into a series of problems when they

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<v Speaker 1>each think the other is being unfaithful, so they have

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<v Speaker 1>to consult the you guessed it, Village Soothsayer to clear

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<v Speaker 1>things up. And Rousseau wrote the libretto and composed the music,

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<v Speaker 1>which wasn't very common then. In fact, sourtss say he

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<v Speaker 1>was the first person potentially to have done this.

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<v Speaker 2>That is so crazy and what a weird detail. So

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<v Speaker 2>was this opera a hit?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I mean it's not considered a masterpiece today,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was one of the most popular operas of

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<v Speaker 1>the time. I was first performed in the court of

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<v Speaker 1>King Louis the fifteenth, who liked it so much that

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<v Speaker 1>the next day he's posedly wandered around singing one of

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<v Speaker 1>the arias, of course, very off key, and the opera

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<v Speaker 1>was even performed at his grandson's wedding in seventeen seventy.

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<v Speaker 1>The grandson was the future Louis the sixteenth, whose wife

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<v Speaker 1>Marie Antoinette, is another huge fan of Rousseau's opera. Later,

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<v Speaker 1>she even played at Heroin in a private performance for

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<v Speaker 1>friends and her own one hundred and twenty seat theater

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<v Speaker 1>at Versailles.

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<v Speaker 2>That is so funny. I had no idea. Well, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>glad you mentioned Mary Antoinette because there's actually a nice

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<v Speaker 2>little thread here, because we're going from let the meat

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<v Speaker 2>cake to someone who loved to make cakes, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is Emily Dickinson. Now, Dickinson was famously an introvert, even reclusive,

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<v Speaker 2>but aside from being a star on the page. The

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<v Speaker 2>other place she felt very comfortable was in the kitchen.

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<v Speaker 2>She'd often send cakes and breads to her friends and

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<v Speaker 2>her family. She was also known to lower baskets of

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<v Speaker 2>treats from an upstairs window down to the neighborhood kids,

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<v Speaker 2>who apparently were big fans of her gingerbread. But what

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<v Speaker 2>is also cool is that Dickinson would use the backs

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<v Speaker 2>of her recipes and cake wrappers to draft her poems.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, a draft of The Things That Can Never

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<v Speaker 2>Come Back was written on the back of a coconut

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<v Speaker 2>cake recipe.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I got another fun fact, Mango. It's that

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<v Speaker 1>I love coconut cake. So we're gonna we're gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing ten facts in this episode. I I love

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<v Speaker 1>coconut cake.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I am so so on it, but I'm glad

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<v Speaker 2>you like it. If you want to make Dickinson's cake,

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<v Speaker 2>you can actually find the recipe online and it looks

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good, especially when you compare it to her black cake,

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<v Speaker 2>which is an age fruitcake that involves nineteen eggs, five

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<v Speaker 2>pounds of raisins, two pounds of butter, and a half

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<v Speaker 2>pint of brandy. When this thing was done. It weighed

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<v Speaker 2>more than twenty pounds. It was like an oven roaster.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, tell me she wasn't lowering that down in a

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<v Speaker 1>basket like It feels like you'd get in trouble if

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<v Speaker 1>you bunk a kin on the head with something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, apparently it was a special occasion cake,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's still being made today. Since twenty fifteen, a

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<v Speaker 2>team at Harvard's Houghton Library, which has the world's largest

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<v Speaker 2>Dickinson archive, has been making the black cake in honor

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<v Speaker 2>of her birthday. It's pretty fitting because during her lifetime,

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<v Speaker 2>Dickinson was better known as a baker than a writer.

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<v Speaker 2>In her obituary, her sister in law wrote that though

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<v Speaker 2>few people knew Emily personally, quote, there are many homes

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<v Speaker 2>into which her dainty treasures of fruit and flowers and

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<v Speaker 2>almost ambrosial dishes for the sick and well were constantly sent.

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<v Speaker 2>That will forever miss those dainty traces of her unselfish devotion.

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<v Speaker 3>That's actually really sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we have to take a quick break, but

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<v Speaker 1>when we come back, I'm going to tell you all

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<v Speaker 1>about an actor who's a real clown, I believe it

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<v Speaker 1>or not. Actually mean that as a compliment, So don't

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<v Speaker 1>go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Part Time Genius, where we're counting down

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<v Speaker 2>nine side hustles of the rich and famous and one

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<v Speaker 2>fact about Will and coconut cake. Before the break, you

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<v Speaker 2>said you were going to tell us about an actor

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<v Speaker 2>who's a clown, and you know, I know people hate clowns.

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<v Speaker 2>They think they're terrifying. I kind of don't have an

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<v Speaker 2>opinion on this, Like I remembering they were fun and

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<v Speaker 2>silly as a kid. I kind of want to hold

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<v Speaker 2>onto that feeling. And I don't really like watch horror

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<v Speaker 2>movies or things about serial killers, which I guess is

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<v Speaker 2>where some of that fear comes from. But I'm curious

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<v Speaker 2>about you, Will. Do you have a big fear of clowns.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a fear of clowns, and I used

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<v Speaker 1>to not really have strong feelings about them, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, it kind of changed for me. It's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like people who get super into like cosplay or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. While it's not something that I'm into,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually really love that people love to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like it's just kind of fun to watch

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<v Speaker 1>people who get so passionate about a thing. And I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like most of the time, people that really get

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<v Speaker 1>into the clown thing, like to want to be a clown,

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<v Speaker 1>are doing it because maybe for some reason, like since

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<v Speaker 1>they were a kid, they always wanted to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least that's what I assume.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of a fan of the fact that they exist.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I feel like like people who want

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<v Speaker 2>to be clowns, like want to make kids happy in

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<v Speaker 2>hospitals and stuff like that is how I think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, exactly, I don't want one in my house,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I love that they exist. So anyway, one

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<v Speaker 1>person who really loves clowns is the actor David R.

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<v Speaker 3>Quett.

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<v Speaker 1>When that seems no surprise, it feels on brand for him,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was a huge Boso the Clown fan as

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<v Speaker 1>a kid. He'd run around pretending to be Boso the

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<v Speaker 1>way other kids might pretend to be Spider Man or

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<v Speaker 1>some other superhero. And recently he made it official he

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<v Speaker 1>is Boso the Clown. Like, officially Boso the Clown.

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<v Speaker 2>What does that mean exactly, Well.

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<v Speaker 3>You buy the rights to the character.

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<v Speaker 1>It took him about fifteen years of togoiations, but in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one, Arquette became the owner of Bozo the Clown,

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<v Speaker 1>which means not only can he sell or make a

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<v Speaker 1>movie about him, but Arquette can play Bozo himself, which

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<v Speaker 1>he does and to make sure he's doing the character justice,

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<v Speaker 1>he even studied with a renowned Russian clown teacher.

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<v Speaker 2>That is incredible, and he spent fifteen years of negotiation.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it takes a while, he negotiating a clown thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize that was standard. So what does that

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<v Speaker 2>mean if anyone else wants to play Boso like, they

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<v Speaker 2>have to go through David Arquette.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, technically, it's just like any other character

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<v Speaker 1>protected by IP law. But what I love about this

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<v Speaker 1>story is that Arquette seems really sincere about his motivation.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a money grab here.

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<v Speaker 1>So when the deal closed, he told the press that

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to use his influence and resources to revive

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<v Speaker 1>Boso in popular culture. He said, Boso represents a world

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<v Speaker 1>of love, light and laughter, something we can all use

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<v Speaker 1>more of right now.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's not wrong about that.

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<v Speaker 1>And in twenty twenty two, for the first time ever,

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<v Speaker 1>a black woman stepped into those big red shoes. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a performer named Jessica Harrison took on the role

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<v Speaker 1>of Joso, the female version of Boza Jo. Soo I

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<v Speaker 1>love it Joso. Yeah yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So our next side hustle involves a Grammy Award winning

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<v Speaker 2>musician and fashion icon, Erica Badu, and in addition to

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<v Speaker 2>being a truly visionary artist, she is also a certified doula,

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<v Speaker 2>which is, of course, someone trained to support parents through childbirth. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's true. Badou has said that she became interested in

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<v Speaker 2>the concept after the birth of her oldest son. This

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<v Speaker 2>was in nineteen ninety seven. She started out by attending

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<v Speaker 2>some friends' births. Then she found out not only was

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<v Speaker 2>she good at this, but she found it really fulfilling,

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<v Speaker 2>so she pursued formal training and earned her certificate in

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and one. Now, doulas aren't technically medical professionals,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's plenty of research showing that their support leads

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<v Speaker 2>to better outcomes for parents for newborns.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hm.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I don't know that there's ever been

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<v Speaker 1>a research study on this detail specifically, but I have

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<v Speaker 1>to assume that if ericabi Do is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>first people you see when you enter this world, you're

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much going to be super cool when you grow up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that feels very scientific and reasonable. Badu said she's

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<v Speaker 2>assisted with at least fifty berths by now. Her clients

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<v Speaker 2>include Diana Taylor Summer Walker, among many others. But this

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<v Speaker 2>is my favorite detail hands down. She calls her doula

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<v Speaker 2>service but doula.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that's why she did it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. I didn't see that one coming, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>so obvious.

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<v Speaker 3>When you see it.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, another celebrity involved in births, but I have a

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<v Speaker 1>very different species is the author Beatrix Potter. She wrote

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<v Speaker 1>and illustrated The Tale of Peter Rabbit and so many

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<v Speaker 1>other great children's books. But get this, she was also

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<v Speaker 1>a sheep breeder. Specifically, she raised Herdwick sheep, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a very old breed indigenous to the Lake District in

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<v Speaker 1>the north of England. Now, actually, let me pull up

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<v Speaker 1>this photo. Isn't this like a super cute sheep?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, that is so cute And it kind

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<v Speaker 2>of looks like it's smiling.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's just how their mouths are, but it

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<v Speaker 1>earned them the nickname the smiley Sheep. Now, more importantly,

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<v Speaker 1>These sheep are designed for harsh northern weather, and their

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<v Speaker 1>wool is actually so thick and coarse they can survive

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<v Speaker 1>being buried in the snow.

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<v Speaker 2>So did Beatrix Potter grow up on a farm? Like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm realizing now, I actually don't know much about her life.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I didn't either, But no, she didn't. She

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in London, but her family was from northern

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<v Speaker 1>England and they often spent summers there, so she always

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<v Speaker 1>felt connected to the region. She bought her first farm

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<v Speaker 1>in the Lake District in nineteen oh five and eventually

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<v Speaker 1>moved up there and married a local lawyer. She and

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<v Speaker 1>her husband bought many more farms over the years, eventually

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<v Speaker 1>including sheep farms.

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<v Speaker 3>So threw her hands on work. Learning from local experts.

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<v Speaker 1>She really got to know the Herdwick and that's when

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<v Speaker 1>she started to breed them, and after a while her

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<v Speaker 1>sheep started to win prizes, so in nineteen forty three

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<v Speaker 1>she was even elected the first female president of the

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<v Speaker 1>Herdwick Sheep Breeders Association. She unfortunately died a few months

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<v Speaker 1>later before she could take office, but her sheep live

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<v Speaker 1>on today.

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<v Speaker 3>She left fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Working farms and more than four thousand acres of land

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<v Speaker 1>to England's National Trust with the stipulation that these farmers

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<v Speaker 1>continue raising the herdwick. So as a result, many people

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<v Speaker 1>credit Potter with saving this hyper local breed.

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<v Speaker 2>That is actually kind of an incredible legacy. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>are these farms still raising herdwickes?

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<v Speaker 3>They very much are.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of Potter's properties are still working farms, and many

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<v Speaker 1>are open to visitors too. So if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>see the cutest sheep in the world, just head to

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<v Speaker 1>England's Lake District and think of Beatrix Potter.

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<v Speaker 2>As a kid, when I was like two or three,

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<v Speaker 2>I used to warn my dad I was so worried

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<v Speaker 2>that he would go to work because he'd get caught

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<v Speaker 2>by farmer Brown or whatever Peter rabbit was caught from.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, yeah, that's pretty great.

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<v Speaker 2>So my last fact involves a very different artist, the

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<v Speaker 2>surrealist Salvador Dolly. He is best known for his paintings

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<v Speaker 2>and slightly less best known for his experiments in fashion, architecture,

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<v Speaker 2>and film, but his biggest side quest was book illustrations.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, he illustrated over one hundred books during his lifetime.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the titles are more surprising than others. You've

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<v Speaker 2>got Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, don Quixote, Faust, but also

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<v Speaker 2>a special edition of the Bible, and Shakespeare's Macbeth, which

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, with the witches and everything, that one

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<v Speaker 1>actually seems perfect for the Dolly treatment.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually found a New York Times review of Dolly's

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<v Speaker 2>illustrated Macbeth, which was published in nineteen forty six. One

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<v Speaker 2>drawing is described like this quote. There appears a box

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<v Speaker 2>from whose keyhole blood gushes into a bowl, also containing

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<v Speaker 2>a dismembered human finger, a skeleton wearing a robe with

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<v Speaker 2>a grinning rubbery mouth in the middle, and a woman

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<v Speaker 2>part octopus from whose head sprout various kitchen utensils.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I have to bet that sounds very Dolly.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if it sounds like McBeth, though, And

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<v Speaker 1>unless I'm remembering that play wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that we're more scared of clowns than we

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<v Speaker 2>are solved for Dolly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's true, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>But the review goes on to say that Dolly's only

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<v Speaker 2>loosely resemble Shakespeare's story, that the pictures hint at quote

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<v Speaker 2>another and rather darker story, which is kind of fascinating

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<v Speaker 2>in its own right. It's like he drew what Macbeth

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<v Speaker 2>felt like to him instead of doing the usual thing

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<v Speaker 2>where the illustrations present a very faithful depiction of whatever's

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<v Speaker 2>described in the text.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, plus, in this case, the author wasn't alive

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<v Speaker 1>to complain, so so Dolly could really let his imagination

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<v Speaker 1>run wild here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and if clocks can me out of trees, it

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<v Speaker 2>certainly seems like one of Macbeth's witches can be an octopus.

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<v Speaker 3>That is, that is very very true.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, let's wrap up with a classic celebrity

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<v Speaker 1>side hustle, which is the restaurant. How many celebrities have

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<v Speaker 1>started restaurants. The Wallberg Brothers have Wallburgers. Yeah, good stuff, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you've been to Wallburger's.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I just know it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, you just like saying it? I get it? All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Eminem of course has mom Spaghetti. John bon Jovi

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<v Speaker 1>has jbj Soul Kitchen, just to name a few. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'd argue that fewer as involved in theirs as the

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<v Speaker 1>late great heavyweight boxer Jack Dempsey, who opened his place

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<v Speaker 1>simply called Jack Dempsey's in Midtown Manhattan. This was in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty five, he'd retired from the Ring. Of course, now,

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<v Speaker 1>Dempsey's served classic mid twentieth century food. You got steak,

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<v Speaker 1>liverwear sandwiches, chicken a La King, shrimp cocktail, and something

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<v Speaker 1>called Jack's Delight, which the menu described as quote Virginia

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<v Speaker 1>ham with eggs and cream.

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<v Speaker 3>I have no idea what that is, but that's what

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<v Speaker 3>it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like my arteries are clogging just hearing you

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<v Speaker 2>read off these. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think any of these were low fat, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was just a different way of eating back then.

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<v Speaker 1>But the food must have been okay because the restaurant

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<v Speaker 1>stayed open for almost forty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Dempsey was a fixture there. He would be.

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<v Speaker 1>Hanging out, signing autographs, chatting with the patrons. And it

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<v Speaker 1>seems that one of the things he was proudest of

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<v Speaker 1>after all those boxing titles, was his cheesecake recipe. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen seventy three, when New York magazine chose the

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<v Speaker 1>city's best cheesecakes and Dempsey's wasn't included, he wrote a

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<v Speaker 1>letter to the editor defending its honor. He added that

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<v Speaker 1>the late President of France, Charles de Gaul loved Dempsey's

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<v Speaker 1>cheesecake so much he had shipped it to Paris several

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<v Speaker 1>times a year.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's kind of high praise, right, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>if someone like the President of France is ordering it,

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<v Speaker 2>they come from a lad for this series, Like, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not free of desserts or anything. So do we know

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<v Speaker 2>where Dempsey's famous cheesecake recipe actually comes from?

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<v Speaker 1>Well to answer that question, we have to look to

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<v Speaker 1>another New York magazine cheesecake round up. This one was

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<v Speaker 1>from nineteen ninety nine. Brooklyn Diner's cheesecake took the number

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<v Speaker 1>one spot, and the owner of that restaurant claimed he

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<v Speaker 1>got his recipe from his aunts, who ran a hotel

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<v Speaker 1>and the Catskills.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>According to him, Dempsey used to visit this hotel when

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<v Speaker 1>he was training and also got his hands on the

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<v Speaker 1>cheesecake recipe, which he copied for his restaurant. Now, Dempsey's

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<v Speaker 1>closed in nineteen seventy four and Jack Dempsey died in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty three, so he could not confirm nor deny this.

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<v Speaker 1>But the good news is Brooklyn Diner is still around

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<v Speaker 1>and still has a cheesecake on the menu, but it

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<v Speaker 1>now comes with strawberries and Valroona chocolate fudge. Jack Dempsey

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<v Speaker 1>might not know what that is, but I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>think he'd enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm sure he would well will. Since you introduced

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<v Speaker 2>me to these adorable British sheep, I think you deserve

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<v Speaker 2>today's trophy, and you know what, I'm gonna throw in

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<v Speaker 2>a slice of New York cheesecake as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh thanks, I'll split it with you. That's the cheesecake,

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<v Speaker 1>not the trophy. Yeah, fair enough. Well that does it

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