WEBVTT - Draft Show: All-Star Weekend 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:12.240 Isth Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room for 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:16.440 insider news and draft analysis from deep within the confines 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:19.280 of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star in Frisco. 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:30.120 Today is Tuesday, January thirtieth, and we are eighty six 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:34.240 days away from the NFL Draft in Detroit, Michigan. 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:35.720 Welcome into the Draft. 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:39.320 Show, presented by Miller Lte live from the SWBC studio 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:42.360 here at the Star in Frisco. It is All Star 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:46.720 Game week inside these buildings, inside these walls, in the 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:47.239 now in. 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:50.320 Mobile, Alabama as well. We've got the. 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:53.720 Shrine Bowl in town and the Senior Bowl underway practices 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:56.840 starting this morning from Alabama. 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:58.639 We have Nick Harris out there. We'll talk to him 0:00:58.640 --> 0:00:59.080 in a moment. 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:02.640 But inside the studio we've got Bobby Belt, Zach Waltscha, 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:06.160 Brian brought us Ayisha Morrison. I'm Kyle Yeolmans. This is 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:09.360 an exciting time of year, Brian. I mean, you look 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:12.120 at the prospects, you get to look at the film, 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:14.319 you get to look at all of this information that 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:15.840 just is flooding in at this point. 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:18.039 Yeah, and what we do is we've all studied the 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:20.920 tape and now you get to see the body types 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:23.160 and now you get to see the movements and stuff live. 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:25.640 And that's the one thing that really helps you when 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:27.120 you're evaluating these players. 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:30.000 That's where these scouts go on the road all year long. 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:32.200 What are they do and they're going to practices, they're 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:34.440 watching the tape in the morning, they're catching the practice 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:37.240 in the afternoon. They're getting body types, they're getting shapes, 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:39.959 they're getting movements, they're getting all these things. So it's 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:41.920 been a really this is one of the best times 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:44.480 to kind of fill in. You're not going to see 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:46.399 all the guys, but you're going to get an idea 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:48.600 of some of the top ones in the country and 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:50.120 I think that'll help. And then you get to the 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:53.040 combine and you'll see even more movement skills and that 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:55.280 would kind of like Okay, I watched the tape the 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:57.640 other day Penn State was playing Michigan. Oh I saw 0:01:57.720 --> 0:01:59.520 him do this. Yep, he could do that. I remember 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:01.480 short shuttle. He's quick doing that. 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:01.920 Yeah. 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:05.120 That makes so everything kind of comes together for you 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:06.200 when you get to this point. 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:07.600 It's a lot of fun. 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:09.560 II Sha, you've been out at this Shrine Bowl this 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:12.760 past week, getting your eyes on players got the rosters 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:14.080 in front of you and everything. 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:16.280 Y'allah. 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:17.760 How has it been out there? 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:19.400 Though, No, it's been cool. 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:23.720 I enjoyed the Shrine Bowl just because I think you 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:26.480 find some players there that you know, maybe haven't gotten 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:28.280 a whole bunch of looks and maybe haven't gotten the 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:30.640 most attention. But when you look at a guy like 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:33.200 even like Jya Thomas who was in the Shrine Bowl 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:35.000 and we talk about we think he's one of the 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:36.880 more open coming players on this roster. 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.240 It's it's a dope opportunity for. 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.720 Some of these guys to get looks, and it's it's 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:43.200 the best on the best, you know what I'm saying. 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:45.240 And that's when you find out who's really the best. 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:48.000 Right, those are one v ones man, That's what it's 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:49.839 all about. And I think it's fun. We talked last 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:53.400 week with Dane about Stiggers, you know, the Canadian football. 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:54.080 And he has stood out. 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:56.440 But the breakdown it's been exactly what you saw. 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:58.720 Yeah, right, he's gonna go ahead and put his sideline, 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:02.000 go go square sideline to the body here and then 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:03.720 he's made some plays on the ball, I mean, one 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:05.280 of the ones against some of these and Frank Gore 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:07.079 Junior is another guy, right, he looked at some of 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:09.960 these dudes played smaller competition, how were they when they 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:11.720 get to match up against a dude that's coming from 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:14.239 LSU or Alabama. 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:16.120 I think we might have bumped up, You're We're good, 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:17.400 We're good, You're back, bumped back. 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:19.040 But Frank Gore Junior is the guy that I was 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:21.079 watching last night kind of caught my eye because we're 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:24.040 going through the Shrine Bowl stuff. He's dominating against the 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:26.720 Appalachian States. I mean, we saw a lot of Conference 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:29.320 USA football being North Texas mean dream, but. 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:31.600 I felt like he was in school for like twelve. 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:32.919 He was, and two years ago I went back watch 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:35.960 him in twenty family tradition against Miami, and isn't it 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:36.800 weird that one's going to. 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:37.800 Make you feel a little bit old? 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:40.840 Oh yeah, But he's a guy that I think dominated 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:43.200 when he was supposed to right at Southern Miss against 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:45.280 some of these lower level competition. But when you get 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:48.320 to see him in these type of environments, these practices, 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.720 but also going back and watching against Miami, this dude 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:53.240 can just play. I mean, he's got some special elements 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.040 to his game. Is a little bit smaller, but then 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:56.920 when you get to see him in person. I mean, 0:03:56.920 --> 0:04:00.040 all these things plus the personalities of these guys we 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:02.200 also think is super important. I mean we talk about 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.520 that a lot with quarterbacks, but what kind of makes 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:07.000 these guys tick? Right? How much do they love the game? 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:10.040 We've been taking notes. Man, I'm watching this dude play. 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:12.120 It seems like he loves the game of football. You're 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:14.520 able to tell in person when you actually get to 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:15.280 see these dudes. 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:18.080 Yeah, I wanted to comment on stickers real quick. I 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:20.960 literally wrote down, he don't know no better, so he 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:25.120 does it? Yeah, because he exactly And so you see 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:27.840 him and there's times where it looks like he got turned, 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:30.200 but his hips are so he can flip him so 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:31.240 quick he can recover. 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:33.159 He just has a nose for the ball. 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:36.880 But I had the opportunity to meet him and interviews 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:41.400 on the first day, and he just exudes confidence, y'all, 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:44.080 Like he's so he got that chip on his shoulder. 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:46.800 You know, guy that maybe everybody doesn't think can really play, 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:49.320 but when you look for a corner, that's what you're. 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:51.520 Looking for, and he has like boatloads of it. 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:54.359 So it's been really dope to see his play translate 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:56.960 this week in drills in seven verse. 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:58.800 Seven, well in size wise, like, I think his arm 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:00.680 length kind of stood out as well. Well, yeah, I 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:03.799 was like, man, it's pretty long. You mentioned the recovery ability. 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:05.680 That's something too. It's just unique for a guy that 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.160 hasn't played the sport a ton. He just kind of 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:11.440 got these raw instincts that you look for. And I think, 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:13.600 I mean, the more he gets to play, the better 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:16.200 coaching he gets. This guy seems like the limit for 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:16.960 a player like that. 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:19.400 And if D's coming back, he looks kind. 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:21.080 Of looks the part. He kind of looks like, you 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:22.520 don't have to whisper it. It could happen. 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:25.159 He kind of looks like the corners they like, yeah, 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:26.080 it's just saying. 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:26.480 It's the mold. 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:28.520 Yeah, very well, could happen. 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:31.119 No, I actually, I really love what Shrine has done 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:33.240 and like what Shrine's become. I think Eric Galco has 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.520 done a fantastic job building that up the way he has. 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:38.280 That was kind of an afterthought for a long time, 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:40.240 similar to like you know, they would put it in 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:42.360 the same like Okay, you get the NFLPA game, you 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:44.440 get the Shrine Bowl. Those aren't going to be nearly 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:46.160 as significant as the Senior Bowl. But I mean they've 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:47.960 got some real talent here this week. I mean, you know, 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:49.880 they've got Edge Cooper here from Texas A and M. 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:52.240 John Brooks is a big one. I think there's just 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:54.920 they've done a really good job of kind of stacking 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:57.200 things up, and Dallas gets such a huge advantage. I 0:05:57.200 --> 0:05:59.920 feel like just being able to have that here at home, 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.920 take advantage of that, leave for Senior Bowl run through. 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:05.080 It's just this is the marathon sprint right here. 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:07.200 And the offensive line play. We've talked about that the 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:10.840 entire time. It seems like these offensive linemen and how 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:13.919 about these Dakota schools. I was mentioning that yesterday football. 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:15.960 Last year we talked to Cody malk out of North 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:18.560 Dakota State. South Dakota State's got some boys this year. 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:18.760 Man. 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:22.080 The offensive line play is just super impressive right now. 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:24.960 Yeah, and hey that South Dakota State teams won back 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:27.360 to back national championships at the FCS level. 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:28.440 Both know this area. 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:31.200 About to say, they're pretty welcome here in Frisco. They've 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:33.560 been here a time or two to pay taxes there here. 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.920 Now we're talking about Shrine, and we are going to 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:39.680 talk a little bit more about what we've seen this 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:40.920 week and what has stuck out. 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:42.080 But today was the. 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:45.440 First practice of the Senior Bowl down in Mobile, Alabama, 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:48.080 and one of our very own Nick Harris, is out 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:51.279 in Mobile. He is on the sideline as we speak, 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:53.719 and he's also on the phone line as we speak. 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:56.920 It was Sam Hartman just completed a really long pass. Nick, 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:59.239 what's going on? What are you seeing down there in Mobile? 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:01.800 Yeah, what's going on? Pellas You just saw that Sam 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:05.080 Harbon pass down to Roman Wilson, Michigan wide receiver down 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:07.280 the middle. Yeah, it looking pretty good out here. We've 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:10.320 only been about through about an hour of team drill, 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:11.880 so really just kind of getting a feel of how 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:13.960 these guys move around, the instincts that they kind of have, 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:16.400 getting a good feel as they start to get comfortable 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:18.680 being in this Senior Bowl environment. But so far, you 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:20.960 can definitely tell which of the standouts and which of 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:22.960 the guys that we're really looking forward to this week. 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:24.680 You can see which ones are popping and which ones 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:26.240 are taking a minute to kind of get adjusted. 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:27.680 But so far, it's been so good. 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:31.480 Now you've talked about Jackson Powers Johnson the Center from 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:34.280 Oregon on this show a couple of times. I know 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:36.400 earlier in the day you were talking about how much 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:40.560 he's already stood out. What's going on with Jackson Powers Johnson, 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:42.440 and how is he impressing you so far? 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.200 Yeah, he looked really good, guys. I mean that's strong 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:47.200 anchor that you know, we've been able to see on 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.040 film and we've been able to see from him in 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:51.880 his time of Oregon, both at center, right guard, left guard. 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:54.000 He's showing all of that so far today in the 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:55.760 one on one settings. He has taken a lot of 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:57.880 reps at center, also took a few at right guard, 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:00.000 and we didn't lose one rep. I looked really good. 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:01.720 I mean he gets those back beat down in the 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:04.000 surf and he drives forward. It's been really tough to 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:06.680 get around him so far. So as I see it 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:09.280 right now, probably the most consistent offensive lineman. Through that 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:12.280 first little one on one session, each offensive lineman probably 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:14.480 got about four or five reps. But yeah, so far, 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:17.000 he's looking really good. He's taken to coaching, and yeah, 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:18.760 he just turned twenty one a couple of weeks ago. 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:20.240 I mean, this is a guy that could be a 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.920 franchise changer at center, I think for any franchise that 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:25.080 gets them, and I'm starting to think it's going to 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:26.640 be tough for him to slip twenty four if we're 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:27.480 talking Cowboys. 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:29.920 Hey, Nick, I know there needs to be two of 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.720 you to split and watch the practice to cover it 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.240 the way. But where have you found like the most scouts. 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:37.360 Was there a huge crowds around the one on one 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:40.400 with the linemen. Where do you think all the NFL 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:42.439 guys are focusing their attention right now? 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:43.240 Yeah? 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:45.720 Most definitely the lineman. We've talked about this tackle class 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:47.679 quite a bit. But also there's some really going interior 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:49.880 guys here in Mobile this week. So being able to 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:51.679 kind of pair both of those things, that's where you're 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:53.439 gonna find most of the thirty two teams being able 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:55.920 to kind of hover around. But also saw him quite 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:58.080 a bit with the linebackers were here in this first practice. 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:00.480 Here on this team, you got Sedgrim Gray from North Carolina, 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:03.640 Peyton Wilson from North Carolina State Mayor Buis Out from 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:05.520 a Notre Dame. We've talked about all three of those 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:07.400 guys on the show. A scout has definitely been a 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:08.800 hanging around those guys as well. 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:11.080 What about the quarterbacks. 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:13.320 I think that we talked last week with Danny got 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:15.839 bow Niggs, you got Michael Pennix Junior. But we're watching 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:18.079 Sam Hartman now. We were just talking before the show started. 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:20.400 Hartman's a guy that there just doesn't seem to be 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:22.320 a lot of buzz about right now from Notre Dame. 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:25.400 Yeah, absolutely, and so far he had that really nice 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:27.600 pass across the middle to Roam and Wilson earlier, and 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:29.240 you know, he's looked pretty good so far. It's kind 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:31.560 of something in her a full complete scope of these 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:34.000 quarterbacks so far, they've just now started to put the 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:35.600 ball through the air as far as routes on air, 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:37.680 they were doing one on ones with running backs and 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:39.760 linebackers a little bit earlier, so more so short the 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:42.680 intermediate works that all three, they looks good. They're getting 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.400 adjusted here. I really like what I've seen from Sam 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:47.320 Harmon as you said, and Michael Pennix had a couple 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:47.959 of moments as well. 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:48.880 Nick. 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:52.200 The safety position hasn't really gotten any love for real 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:56.079 in the last couple of seasons. I feel like, are 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:58.680 there any safeties down there? That you are interested in 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:01.559 looking at and kind of your Yeah. 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:03.679 Absolutely, I'm looking at Coldish about if you call. He's 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:05.440 in this group that I've seen so far here early 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:07.360 in the morning. I really like what I see from him. 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:09.680 When you talk about being able to kind of identify 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:12.280 instincts early on, he's one of them, and they trusted 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:15.600 him in some single high opportunities here in this early 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:17.600 practice session. I really like what I've seen from him. 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:19.760 And then this TV group as a whole, some versaal 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:21.480 guys that are kind of around. You're kind of seeing 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:24.080 some guys move around. Evan Williams from Oregon, You've seen 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:26.680 him line up at safety, come down to Nickels. He's 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:28.679 done some good work as well. And then both Smith 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:31.560 Wade out of Washington State kind of similar stuff. So, yeah, 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:33.199 those are some guys I'm definitely looking. 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:35.560 At me and back Nick. 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:39.119 We appreciate you doing some great work down there in Mobile. 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:42.120 We will check back in with you on Thursday. Sounds 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:44.640 like there's a lot going on behind you as well. 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:48.040 Always fun down there. Enjoy your time, get some seafood 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:49.079 and have a good one. 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:51.920 Thanks guys. We'll definitely come back on Thursday. Listen more. 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.520 There you go, there's Nick Harris. He will be back 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:57.880 Thursday for the show. But I mean, what a time 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:00.000 it is, Brian you were talking about at a moment again, 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:04.240 just every kindle, every rep matters for these guys. 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:06.720 Yeah, it does. And what's really cool is the NFL. 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:09.080 It used to be for my era where the teams, 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.920 the two worst teams in the league were getting to coach, 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.240 you know, and you almost felt like those guys were 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:16.040 being punished, you know, the way. 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:17.840 But now you have the way the. 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:21.440 League is set it up where these young assistant coaches, 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:24.600 they're giving them opportunities to be coordinators, a head coach, 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:27.559 you know, set a game plan together. 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:29.079 I mean they're giving them great experience. 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:33.280 And so their enthusiasm, along with the players enthusiasm, along 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:36.320 with all the buzz with the media and the scouts 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:38.560 and stuff and the building make this just such a 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:42.160 fun event for evaluation, you know, I mean, it is 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:45.960 it is. It's Jim Naggy does a hell of a 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:48.880 job picking that team. This is not just show up 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:50.840 the week before and get a bunch of guys together. 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:52.559 This is a year long process. 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:55.719 And the way that Naggy puts it together with the 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:58.920 help of the scouts and the general managers around the league. 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:02.120 That's why Nick Harris is able to talk about seven 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:03.720 or eight different and you got some of the top 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.840 quarterbacks here, you know, throwing in as I usually would say, 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:07.839 good verse good here. 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:10.120 Yeah, you know, and that's the that's. 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.600 The great thing about the Senior Bowl and what we 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:13.400 have going forward. 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:16.000 Yeah, and you mentioned that, like what Naggy's done with 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:18.080 the Senior Bowl and how they grind you around, because 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:19.920 that's the things that it's He's turned it into its 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:21.360 own scouting organization he does. 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:23.439 He's got scouts, he's like at thirty thirteen. 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:26.160 Yeah, absolutely, I mean, and they've had guys hired away 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:27.720 from the Senior Bowl in recent years, guys who are 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:29.440 on those scouting staffs that now they are area scouts 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:31.520 with other teams. Like it's been a really good pipeline 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:34.280 not just for talent, but like talent evaluators. And so 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:36.640 that's something that I know, there's there's a lot of 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:40.000 respect for the feedback that was given in the past. 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:41.880 You know, not to call any names, but in the past, 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:43.800 it felt like there was a censor around the league 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:46.839 that like there were favors being done at times or 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:48.760 like oh you're you're helping an agent out here or 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:50.640 something like that. There's not going to be any of 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:53.400 that the Senior Bowl these days. Jim Naggy is committed 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:55.720 to making it like and he'll take feedback if they 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:58.040 don't great somebody. Similarly, if they say, hey, we want 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:00.080 to see this guy out there, they get him out there. 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.040 And so this is always a really good week. I 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.000 cannot wait to get a chance to look at the 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:06.280 practice stuff and get a look at the tape because 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:08.719 there's just a lot, you know, here that we can 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:11.199 glean from this week because of the competition and the 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:13.600 level of play that's really stepped up in recent years. 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:13.920 Now. 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:16.240 We talked about it a little bit last week just 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:19.360 leading into this week, but you've have so many connections 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:20.040 around the league. 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.400 Where do you feel like the hotbed of talent is. 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:26.319 From a position standpoint at the Senior Bowl Because everybody 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:28.760 views it differently. Dane's gonna look at it differently than Brian, 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:31.800 Brian different than Bobby. But you're hearing stuff from around 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:33.960 the league of how these positions line up in Mobile. 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.959 Yeah, I think like the common thing that you hear 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:39.560 a lot is just how deep the offensive line class 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:42.920 is just around you know, the entire landscape this year, 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.040 and so I think there's a lot of interest in 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:47.320 you know, the offensive line that are there. I'm curious, 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:49.640 I've seen I know he took the invite, and there's 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:51.560 not a lot of clarity about whether he's on the roster. 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:53.840 There's practice in this week, But Graham Barton from Duke, like, 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:56.080 that's somebody who I know people are interested in because 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:58.040 his measurements are going to be significant even if he's 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:00.959 kicking inside the center. Questions about the arm length, stuff 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:02.360 like that. I think that the one on ones will 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:03.760 be big for him if he's out there, if he's 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:05.880 able to take advantage that that's not gotten a lot 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:07.280 of clear to but just in general, you hear a 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:09.760 lot of scouts talking about that the offensive line play is. 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:10.280 Going to be big. 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:12.200 That was one of the things we heard too about Shrine, 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:14.360 that Shrine had a lot of you know, really good 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:17.040 value guys here at offensive line on both sides that 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:17.960 they were excited about. 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:19.360 So offensive line focus. 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:22.200 I think obviously people that the big thing for Pennix 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:25.200 is going to be medical, but seeing guys like Pennox 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:27.680 and Nicks and some of these older quarterbacks that are going. 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:28.280 To be on display. 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:32.280 This has been a breeding ground and a difference maker 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:36.440 week for quarterbacks in the past. Philip Rivers vaulted way 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:38.080 up to the top of the draft board and the 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:41.000 draft conversation after Senior Bowl years ago, Dak Prescott. 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:42.080 Made a big impression on the Cowboys here. 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:44.560 Yeah, and so I think quarterbacks this is always a 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:46.160 big week for them when you can see them in 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:48.880 the Baker Mayfield. I know had a lot of people 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:51.520 were impressed that he showed up and competed when he did. 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:52.320 A couple of years ago. 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:54.760 So quarterback is always a big one with the guys 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:57.520 that are out there. And we mentioned Hartman, Pennix, Nicks, 0:14:57.680 --> 0:14:59.600 I think this is a big week for those guys too. 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:02.080 I know Connell helped himself last year. Yes he did. 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:04.240 He certainly had a big one. But I am pumped 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:06.680 about these quarterbacks because I think everybody's looking at them 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:09.400 very differently. You know, bon Nicks is a guy that 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:11.480 you're seeing now in the first round in some Bochs. 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:13.000 I know we've been talking to Dane. He might some 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:15.800 teams might have him as the number one, number two quarterback. 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:18.000 I don't see that from bo Nicks. I've got like 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:19.720 a third round grade on him. To me, I think 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:22.440 he was definitely helped and the offense that he was in, 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:24.720 you don't see him reading the field a ton. It's 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:26.720 kind of first read boom, get the ball out. He 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:28.760 had one of the quickest time of releases for the 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:31.840 football in all of college football. I mean, Troy Franklin, 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:33.560 I think is an absolute study, had a ton of 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:37.760 talent around him from Oregon. So Bonnicks will be an 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:40.320 interesting study this week. Is Michael Pennix To me, I 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:43.160 think is a better prospect. I think Pennix throws maybe 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:45.320 the best D ball that I've seen in this draft. 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:47.600 I know Caleb Williams is just an absolute freak show 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:50.480