1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:01,359 Speaker 1: All right. 2 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 2: First up, let me just say it has been a 3 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,199 Speaker 2: pleasure to be at the White House doing some interviews 4 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 2: celebrating the firste hundred days of the Trump administration. And 5 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: joining us a little bit later is going to be 6 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: Tricia McLaughlin. She is going to give us an update 7 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: of what's happening when it comes to the border issues. 8 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: This isn't Secretary at the Department of Homeland Security, and 9 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 2: she's going to join us to talk about that important issue. 10 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 3: So stay around for that. 11 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: Now, before I get to that, I want to talk 12 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: to you about a very important case at the Supreme Court. 13 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: It is a case that is getting virtually no attention 14 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: right now, and it's a case about parental rights. Do 15 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 2: parents have the right to protect their kids from gender 16 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: ideology in public schools? Now, there are a lot of 17 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: different things that have happened in our public schools that 18 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: we're now finding out about. 19 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: I'll give you an example. 20 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: The Supreme Court is hearing these oral arguments and Mohammed 21 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: versus Haler, and it considers whether religious parents can opt 22 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:12,559 Speaker 2: their young children out of mandatory readings of LGBTQIA story books. Now, 23 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: this is one of the books in the case, and 24 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: it is this what are your words question? 25 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 4: Mark. 26 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 3: My pronouns are like the weather. 27 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: The book says, they change depending on how I feel. 28 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 2: Sometimes I just use one set of pronouns, it shows 29 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: with one child. Then the next thing it says, sometimes 30 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: I change my pronouns, and it shows that person changing 31 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: clothing to something else. Then it says, sometimes I use 32 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: all of the pronouns I can think of. And then 33 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: the next page it says, my pronouns are like the weather. 34 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: They change depending on how I feel, and that's okay 35 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: because they're my words. That is one example of the 36 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: books that are being given to your children and grandkids 37 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: to indoctrinate them in our public schools. Now, the question 38 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: is for parents, should you have the right, based on 39 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 2: your faith to say, hey, this mandatory reading in the 40 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 2: public school is something that I should have the right 41 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: to pull my kids out of. Obviously, I believe, of course, 42 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: because this is not education, this is LGBTQI in doctrination. 43 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 2: And as the Supreme Court is diving into Mohammad versus 44 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: Taylor debating this, if religious parents can skip the story 45 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 2: books for kids. It's a clash of a lot of 46 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: different issues one faith, two parental rights, and three they 47 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 2: say on the left school inclusivity policies. 48 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 3: And the decision is expected to come down. 49 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: This summer before school would go back into session in 50 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 2: the fall. Now, there were some very interesting moments at 51 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court. And this is why I hope you 52 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: listen to the show, because I bring you things like 53 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: this that no one else is covering. I want to 54 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: I want you to listen, and please share this on 55 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: social media. All right, share this podcast, this show wherever 56 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: you are in social media. And I want you to 57 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: listen this exchange between Justice Gorsaic and a lawyer that 58 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: is representing a transsexuality pushing Maryland school district. 59 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 3: Okay, so you've got the Maryland School District. 60 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 2: They're pushing transsexuality down the throats, mandating the. 61 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 3: Curriculum to these kids. 62 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: And the discussion that you're about to hear is about 63 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 2: forcing sexual material on elementary school kids, even three year 64 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: old kids. Now, this is a back and forth the 65 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: audio from the Supreme Court. 66 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 3: Listen carefully, souscorsage. 67 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 4: I just want to make sure I understand a few 68 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 4: fact things. And then a law question, what aage do 69 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 4: you in Montgomery County? Teach students normally about human sexuality. 70 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: I think that it begins in either fourth or fifth grade, 71 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: the human sexuality class, Family Life and Human Sexuality the curriculum. 72 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: I'm not entirely sure. 73 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 4: It starts in fourth or fifth grade. I think, is 74 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 4: there anything you can point us to in the record 75 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 4: on that? 76 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: I don't think so? 77 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 4: Okay. And second, these books are being used in English class. 78 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: The division between English class and other things and a 79 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: second grade classroom doesn't really exist. You're sort of in 80 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: a room with a teacher. 81 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 4: And sometimes I appreciate that I went to second grade too, 82 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 4: but it's it's part of the English curriculum that these 83 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 4: books are being used in. That's I thought that was. 84 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not I'm not fighting the premise. I'm just 85 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: saying it's. 86 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 4: Not a math class. It's it's not the human sexuality class. 87 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: It's it is certainly not the human sexuality class. I'm 88 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: just sort of fighting the premise that there's a neat discimery. 89 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 4: And they're being used in English language instruction at age three, 90 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 4: some of them. 91 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: So Pride Puppy was the book that was used for 92 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: the pre kindergarten curriculum. That's no longer in the curriculum. 93 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 4: That's the one where they are supposed to look for 94 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 4: the leather and things and bondage things like that. 95 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: It's not bomb sex a woman and sex worker, right, No, 96 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: it's not correct. No thought, gosh, I read it queen. 97 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: The leather that they're pointing to is a woman in 98 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: a leather jacket and one of the words is drag. 99 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 4: Queen, and they're supposed to look for those. 100 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: It is an option at the end of the book. 101 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 4: Correct, Okay, And you're you've included these in the English 102 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 4: language curriculum rather than the human sexuality curriculum to influence students. 103 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 4: Is that fair? That's what the district court found. 104 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: I think to the extent the district court found that 105 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: it was to influence. It was to influence them towards 106 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: civility then natural consequence of being exposed whatever, but to 107 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: influence them in the manner that I just mentioned. 108 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 4: Yes, and responding to parents who are concerned. You agree 109 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 4: that there was some intemperate language used. 110 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: I don't know that those were respond to parents who 111 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: were concerned. This was after the fact for most of 112 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: these comments, and this was in a very public setting, 113 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:10,239 Speaker 1: which obviously got heated. And some intemperate comments were used, certainly. 114 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 4: And I wanted to understand your context that you are 115 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 4: giving about the statement that some Muslim families it's unfortunate 116 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 4: that this issue puts some Muslim families on the same 117 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 4: side of an issue as white supremacists and outright bigots, 118 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 4: I think in response to justice. So, Tomayer, you're trying 119 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 4: to give some context to that. 120 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: I don't think I was speaking directly about that comment. 121 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: I think that comment was given or was made in June, 122 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: which was several months after the decision to withdraw the 123 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: opt outs was made. I don't have context for that 124 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: savement now, okay. 125 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 4: And then the legal question, why isn't discrimination against religion 126 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 4: a burden on religion? If a state, now this is hypothetical, 127 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 4: not moving away from there, if state actors intentionally discriminate 128 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 4: against religion, what secular purpose, valid secular purpose could that serve? 129 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 4: And how how wouldn't that be a burden? 130 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: So I don't know. I mean, it depends on the 131 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: hypothetical what the state is doing and whether there's a 132 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: secular purpose that's hard to imagine one. But if this 133 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: state is discriminating. 134 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 4: Against Muslims or Catholics or Protestants or whatever. 135 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: I think this court has recognized that when an enactment 136 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: that discriminates on its face, or has recognized with respect 137 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: to an enactment that discriminates on its face, it is 138 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: intrinsically coercive. That's how the Court has performed the burden inquiry. 139 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: If you are privileging one religion over another, you are 140 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: coercing people to subscribe to that particular set of beliefs 141 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: in order. 142 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 4: That's a burden. 143 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, thank you. 144 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: This is just absolute psychotic insanity from this public school district. 145 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: That attorney there for the Montgomery Public School system, his 146 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: name is Alan. He's a guy that's saying no, like you, really, 147 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: as a parent, you don't have any say show over 148 00:07:58,760 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: your kids. 149 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 3: You don't get decide if. 150 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: What we're teaching your three year old kid about a 151 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: chick being a dude or do being a chick, or 152 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: bondage or books that say find the leather for the 153 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 2: for the bondage and sexuality, and this indoctrination of perverting 154 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: your kid's minds at an insanely young age of three 155 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: and up. You don't have a say so in saying oh, 156 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: just because of my faith, you can pull your kid 157 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: out of this mandatory curriculum. Now, the other way to 158 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 2: look at this is you can literally fail the child. 159 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 2: The child could be could fail over and over and 160 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 2: over again if the parent does not give in to 161 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: this type of indoctrination. And what the Supreme Court is 162 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 2: saying there, and this judge is also saying, is that 163 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,359 Speaker 2: we believe that a parent has really. 164 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 3: No rights over their kid. They are properly of the state. 165 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: And what Gorch I think was getting to there, and 166 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 2: the point he was made making so clearly is you 167 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 2: guys actually really do believe this, Like this is what 168 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 2: you think that the parent doesn't matter, that the parent's 169 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 2: faith literally has no bearing on protecting a child from 170 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: anything you want to indoctrinate that child on. I also 171 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 2: want to play for you another example of how radical 172 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: the left is in this case. And again no one's 173 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 2: talking about this outside in the mainstream media because they 174 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: don't want you to know that this is even a thing, 175 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: so that you can. 176 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 3: Have a voice in it, all right. 177 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 2: Brett Kavanaugh also had another back and forth and Brett 178 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: Kavanaugh spot on in what I'm about to play for 179 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: you during his question at the Supreme Court, And I 180 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 2: do want to just put this into perspective here so 181 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 2: you understand just how far the radical left has gone. 182 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:51,119 Speaker 2: Fifteen twenty years ago, the LGBT community, the activist basically, 183 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: their line was just like, leave us alone, let us 184 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 2: live our lives, our private lives. That was the argument. 185 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 2: Just leave us alone, leave us alone, leave us alone. 186 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: What is it today today is well, if look, if 187 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 2: you don't bake me a cake, then I'm going to 188 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: sue you and shut down your restaurant right because there's 189 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 2: no such thing as you having the rights to say 190 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: no for religious reasons. If you don't allow us and 191 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: we will force your children to sit through our curriculum 192 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 2: regardless of your religious beliefs, then we're just going to 193 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: fight and try to take those kids away from you 194 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: and turn the government against you. Like, think about how 195 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 2: far we've gone twenty years ago. Leave us along and 196 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 2: let us live our private lives. Today, you will bake 197 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 2: me that cake. You will force and you will force 198 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: your children to sit through our curriculum or they'll be 199 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: kicked out of school, regardless of your religious beliefs. 200 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 3: That is how far the pendulum has gone. 201 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 2: So listen to Kavanaugh and what he said to the 202 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: attorneys there on this case. 203 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 3: Take a listen. 204 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 5: But in the country has opt outs for all sorts 205 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 5: of things. The county has opt outs for all sorts 206 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 5: of things. The other Maryland counties had opt outs for 207 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 5: all sorts of things, and yet for this one thing 208 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 5: they change in mid midyear and say no more opt outs. 209 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 5: I'm just not understanding feasibility. 210 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: So again, I think what's in the record is that 211 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: with respect to these books, as they were deployed in 212 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: the classroom, there was high absenteeism in some schools, for example, 213 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: dozens of students being opted out in I think mister 214 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: Baxter said the average size of an elementary to Montgomery 215 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: County is seven hundred students, so each grade is one 216 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five. If you have dozens of students 217 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: walking out, making arrangements for those students to have adequate 218 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: space and supervision and alternative instruction, I think is infeasible. 219 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 4: And that's do it for all sorts of other opt outs. 220 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: They don't do it for all sorts of other opt outs. 221 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: There's a limited universe of things that students can opt 222 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: out from, the family life and healthy sexuality curriculum stands alone. 223 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: It is mandated by the state. It is something where 224 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: you are able to predict precisely when the curriculum is 225 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: going to be deployed. 226 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 5: There's a four the most similar substantively to what we 227 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 5: have here, and there's an opt out allowed there. I 228 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 5: guess I'm not understanding why Montgomery County school Board stands alone. 229 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 5: I think in the country, you can tell me if 230 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 5: there's another school board that's done something like this. 231 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: I thought, both. 232 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 5: The kind of books that are being used and prohibiting 233 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 5: opt outs, and I guess I'm just not understanding the 234 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 5: whole goal. I think of some of our religion precedents 235 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 5: is to look for the win win, to look for 236 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 5: the situation where you can respect the religious beliefs and 237 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 5: accommodate the religious beliefs while the state or city or 238 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 5: whatever it may be can pursue its goals. And here, 239 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 5: they're not asking you to change what's taught in the classroom. 240 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 5: They're not asking you to change that at all. A 241 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 5: lot of the rhetoric suggests that they might have that's 242 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 5: a written that they were trying to do that, but 243 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 5: that's not what they're trying to do. They're only seeking 244 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 5: to be able to walk out so that they don't 245 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 5: have to The parents don't have their children exposed to 246 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 5: these things that are contrary to their own beliefs. 247 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: I understand your honor, and there may well be circumstances 248 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: where a school can. 249 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 3: Or I mean, it's just incredibly bizarre. 250 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: And this is why I play this audio for you 251 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 2: so that you understand you need to be checking what 252 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: your kids are being indoctrinate at at three, like they're 253 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 2: doing this before your kid can even know like this 254 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 2: is wrong. They're doing this before your kid even understands 255 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 2: what's happening. 256 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 3: And that's not by accident. That's on purpose. 257 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: Because if they can get control of your kid's mind 258 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 2: to believe that you know Heshi them, they pronouns are normal, 259 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 2: and that you can change your pronouns every day, just 260 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 2: like that book I was reading for you earlier, then 261 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 2: they're like, all right, we're good to go here now 262 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: that these moments are not just bizarre, but but they're insane. 263 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 3: I'll give you another example. 264 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: Justice Jackson yesterday had this back and forth when it 265 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 2: dees with the case. 266 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 3: I'm going to play it for you and then I'll 267 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 3: commentate on the other side. 268 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 6: Listen, and I guess I'm struggling to see how it 269 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 6: burdens a parent's religious exercise. If the school teaches something 270 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 6: that the parent disagrees with, you have a choice. 271 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 4: You don't have to send your kid to that school. 272 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 6: You can put them in another situation. 273 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: You can put them in another situation. Let me let's 274 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: let's dissect and go through that quote. If the school 275 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 2: teaches something that the parent disagrees with, you have a choice. Now, 276 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 2: I wish she was actually saying that she's in favor 277 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 2: of school choice, right, but that's not what she's saying here. 278 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 2: She's saying, then pound sand, then take your kid out 279 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 2: of school. Good luck figure it out, because you're the 280 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: crazy one because you don't want your three year old 281 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 2: indoctrinated with this trans ideology. So again, back to her 282 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: exact words, you don't have to send your kid to 283 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: that school. You can put them in another situation, all right, 284 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: So choice right. 285 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 3: For justice Keanji Brown Jackson. 286 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 2: Is is have your three year old sit through trans 287 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 2: story hour without question, or pay for expensive private. 288 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 3: School or shift to homeschooling. 289 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 2: Not an actual choice, by the way, quote unquote for 290 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 2: a lot of working families or single mothers, and your 291 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 2: tax dollars is what is funding this radical school, whether 292 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 2: your kid goes there or not, so they keep your money. 293 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 2: This is why I'm in favorite school choice. This is 294 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 2: why I'm in favorite vouchers. This is why we as 295 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 2: a community need to understand. Okay, like we need to 296 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 2: understand that this is something now that is going to 297 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: happen forever if we don't stop it, because they're already 298 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 2: doing it. I'll give you another example. I'm going to 299 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 2: play another part of the argument in the Supreme Court. Okay, 300 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: this is Eric Baxter, the attorney for Muhammad, explaining how 301 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: Muchtgomery Public Schools undermined parental rights and religious freedom. And 302 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 2: he said this was clearly targeted the school district at 303 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 2: religious parents. Okay, so this is he's saying, there's no 304 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: disguising this. They wanted to come after Christians, they wanted 305 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: to come after religious people and say to them, Pound Sand, 306 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 2: we own your kid. 307 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 3: They are property of the state, not you a nation. 308 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 5: And then I guess I am a bit mystified as 309 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 5: a lifelong resident of the county how it came to this. 310 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 5: Can you just tell us what happened when in March 311 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 5: of twenty three, you know what. 312 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 4: Happened in terms. 313 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 5: Of the objections and how the school board responded to 314 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 5: give us a little bit. 315 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 4: I share your concern. 316 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 7: My kids you graduated to my kids graduated from MOCO, 317 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 7: and we're opted out when they when they asked on 318 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 7: their own accord to opt out of some instruction on 319 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 7: sex education. And what happened is we're not even entirely 320 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 7: sure because for the entire first year, the board promised 321 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 7: in multiple places on Fox News and other media, the 322 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 7: parents would be be notified and then they would be 323 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 7: opted out. 324 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 3: The last notice. 325 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 7: Happened on March twenty second, twenty twenty three. The very 326 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 7: next day, overnight, with no explanation, the board came out 327 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 7: and said, we're changing the rule because we want every 328 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 7: all students to be instructed on inclusivity. That's at five 329 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 7: point forty seven in the appendix, that emphasis on all 330 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 7: students have to receive this obstruction, nothing about administrability. 331 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 3: And then from there on, even then they said. 332 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 7: If we've already told you you can opt out, we'll 333 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,239 Speaker 7: let you do that, but more parents can't ask, And 334 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 7: then it wasn't until later in the year when they 335 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 7: actually revised their guidelines which still allow certain religious opt 336 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 7: outs and just not others. This was clearly targeted at 337 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 7: religious parents, objective. 338 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 5: And complaints were raised. 339 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 4: Right, That's right. Hundreds of parents complained. 340 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 7: These were mostly, according to the news articles, mostly families 341 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 7: from Muslim faith and Ethiopian Orthodox who are objecting. When 342 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 7: they spoke to the board, the board accused them of 343 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 7: using their religious beliefs as another reason to hate, accused 344 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 7: a young Muslim girl of parroting her parents' dogma, and 345 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 7: then accuse the parents of aligning with racist xenophobes and 346 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 7: white supremacists. And so again, there's no question in this 347 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 7: case that there is a burden, that it was imposed 348 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 7: with animosity, and that it's discriminating against our clients because 349 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 7: of their religious beliefs. 350 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 2: I'm going to say it again, if you're not involved 351 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: in your kids in their schools and what's happening, this 352 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,239 Speaker 2: is probably the craft that's happening, and you have no 353 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 2: idea what's going on, and you can tell the Supreme 354 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 2: Court at least some of these justices are saying, I'm 355 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 2: sounding the alarm. 356 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 3: Parents. 357 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 2: You need to get in your libraries, and you need 358 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 2: to see what your kids are being forced to listen 359 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 2: to and what they're been doctoring your kids with during 360 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: their reading hour as early as the age of three. 361 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 3: Because I mentioned earlier. 362 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 2: Tricia McLaughlin, the Assistant Secretary at the Department of Homeland Security, 363 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 2: join us at the White House to talk about what's 364 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 2: going on with border security issues. 365 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 3: And here is what she had to say. 366 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 2: One of the big issues that so many Americans care 367 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 2: about right now is the issue of what's happening at 368 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: the southern border. We have done a lot to secure 369 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: the border in a President Trump and in the first 370 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 2: hundred days, but then there's the issue of all the 371 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 2: illegal immigrants that are in this country and how we're 372 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 2: going to deport them, especially those that are in MS 373 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: thirteen gang members and Trey de la Laga gangs. This 374 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: is still a major issue for safety for so many Americans. 375 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 2: So join me now to talk about this is Trician mclofflin. 376 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 2: She is the Assistant Secretary Department of Homeland Security. Tricia, 377 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 2: it's a pleasure to have you here and to talk 378 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 2: about this. Let's go to the headlines and start there. 379 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: You've got this story of a MS thirteen gang member, 380 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 2: who even his own wife was making sure that his 381 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,479 Speaker 2: knuckles were that had the tattoo of the MS thirteen 382 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: gang symbol, was not on social media in some of 383 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 2: her postings. Then the media tried to say that he 384 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 2: was not a gang member, that this was terrible, that 385 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 2: we kicked him out of this country, and that we 386 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 2: send him out Salvador, and they're domating him back. 387 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 3: And now Democrats have. 388 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: Gone all in on this, like there's delegations using taxpayer 389 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 2: dollars to go and meet with this person, not meet 390 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 2: with family members and victims in this country, those that 391 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 2: have been terrorized, those have been killed, those have been 392 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: raped and murdered by this gang that is a terrorist organization. 393 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 2: And now we're also seeing lawfare in the courts trying 394 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: to say no, no, no, President Trump, you can't keep American 395 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 2: safe as. 396 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 8: Well, exactly Ben, And there really is a concerted effort 397 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 8: by the media and Democrats to whitewash the story, whitewash 398 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 8: who this guy is, that he's some innocent marilynd father, 399 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 8: when he's anything but. First and foremost, he is in 400 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 8: the country illegally. He had final deportation orders. But let's 401 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 8: go through the timeline a little bit to describe who 402 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 8: this guy Abrego Garcia actually is. When he was initially 403 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 8: arrested in twenty nineteen, he was found among other MS 404 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 8: thirteen gang members, decked out in MS thirteen gear having 405 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 8: different MS thirteen symbols on it. He was found with 406 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 8: drugs and rolls of money as well. Two separate immigration 407 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 8: judges found that he was an MS thirteen gang member 408 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 8: as well as the Prince George's County gang unit. Keep 409 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 8: in mind, Prince George County, Maryland isn't exactly some red haven, 410 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 8: it is very blue. They found that he is in 411 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 8: MS thirteen as well. Flash forward to twenty twenty one. 412 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 8: His wife, his own wife, who like you said, was 413 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 8: covering up his knuckles, was filed a domestic restraining order 414 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 8: against him for slapping her, for ripping off her shirt, 415 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 8: for pinching and scratching her sheet, and her own written 416 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 8: testimony said how she feared for her children and tried 417 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 8: to take them away from him, and then man if 418 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 8: I may one more time is In twenty twenty two, 419 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 8: he was pulled over by the Tennessee State Highway Patrol, 420 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 8: during which he was allegedly taking eight individuals from Texas 421 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 8: to Maryland on a three day journey. On a three 422 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 8: day journey with eight people, and there was not a 423 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 8: single piece of luggage in that vehicle that reeks of 424 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 8: human trafficking. 425 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: That is textbook. 426 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 8: And so we're left to believe that, oh, no, this 427 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 8: is an innocent guy. 428 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: And by the way, that let's be queer the Biden administration. 429 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 2: The FBI said no, no, no, just let him go. 430 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 3: Don't worry about that. 431 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 8: There's certainly more to the story and I'd love to 432 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 8: hear more from the FBI and what went down there. 433 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 2: So you look at this guy and he's over there, 434 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 2: and now the media has become like he's some sort 435 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 2: of folk. 436 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 3: Hero or hero for them. 437 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 2: The Democratic Party is spending taxpayer hours to go down 438 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 2: there and meet with him like he's a celebrity. You 439 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 2: have centers that are holding his hand like he's been 440 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 2: persecuted by the Unitstates of America and demands to bring 441 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 2: him back. What so we can deport him to another 442 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 2: country as soon as he gets here, because that's exactly 443 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 2: what could happen. 444 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 8: It's remarkable to me that this is the hill that 445 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 8: the Democrats and media are willing to die on that 446 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 8: they have one small shred of any credibility left and 447 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 8: this is what they're going to burn it on. Is 448 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 8: this MS thirteen gang member. Americans should remember who MS 449 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 8: thirteen is. It is a vicious gang that sex traffics, 450 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 8: that human traffics, that mames, rapes, and kills Americans for sport. 451 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 8: These are people who should not be in our country 452 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 8: and should be hunted down and locked up immediately. 453 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 2: You just look at some of the things that apparently 454 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 2: were found on his devices. And that's one of the 455 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 2: things that I found interesting on the reporting is you 456 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 2: look at what they share MS thirteen game members. They 457 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 2: share the pictures of beheadings, the butchering of humans, and 458 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 2: then yet they're trying to say, oh, this guy's a 459 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 2: victim who broke into America. 460 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 8: Anything but and that is I mean, if you look 461 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 8: at the crime on American streets and the crimes by 462 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 8: these illegal immigrant gangs, so much of the time they're 463 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 8: done by MS thirteen, they're done by Trendy Aragua, they're 464 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 8: done by these other vicious gangs. They shouldn't have been 465 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 8: here in the first place because they're in the country illegally. 466 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 8: Much less the fact that with impunity, they've been allowed 467 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 8: to rain terwer on American streets for the last four years. 468 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the court system now, and we've seen 469 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 2: these activist judges who are stepping in and using law 470 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 2: fair to say, Hey, the President can't do this anymore. 471 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 2: You can't just ship people off to the other countries. 472 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 2: We're going to stop you every step of the way. 473 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 2: What is the administration's response to that. How long is 474 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 2: it going to take for this. 475 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 3: To play out. 476 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 8: I think ultimately President Trump, Secretary Nomen, this entire administration 477 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 8: are going to be victorious on this issue. On November fifth, 478 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 8: twenty twenty four, there is a clear mandate from the 479 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 8: American people that we need to get criminal, illegal aliens 480 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 8: out of this country. There was likely ten to twenty 481 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 8: million illegal aliens who came into this country under Joe Biden. 482 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 8: The American people are done with it. Look, whether Garcia 483 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 8: is in an American detention facility or an La Salvador, 484 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 8: what matters really is that he's locked up. But I 485 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 8: do think ultimately this will be sorted out. We will 486 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 8: ensure that these individuals have due process. That was what 487 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 8: the Supreme Court was most concerned about was the amount 488 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 8: of time these individuals were given notice. But we're going 489 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 8: to be very clear that despite the fact that these 490 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 8: are terrorists and these are criminal gang members, this is 491 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 8: still the United States of American. We guarantee due process 492 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 8: under the US Constitution. 493 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 2: So when you look forward after, we're at the one 494 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 2: hundred day mark in essence, and this is pretty awesome 495 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 2: because there's a lot that's been done. The border is 496 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 2: now more secure than it's been in decades, the number 497 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 2: of people are coming across. I think the message the 498 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 2: present sent loud and clear was you come here now, 499 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 2: it's game on. We're saying that the number of crossings 500 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 2: have dropped significantly, but there's the big question of Okay, 501 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 2: there's a lot of people that got in under the 502 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 2: Biden years. 503 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 3: There's literally millions. How are we going to unwind all 504 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 3: of that in an orderly fashion? 505 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that we're working to do just that. 506 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 8: Secretary Nome was handed a tough task and she's taking 507 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 8: it on miraculously. Look at the border, as you just mentioned, 508 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 8: we virtually have operational control of the border. Crossings are 509 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 8: down ninety five percent. That is, i all counts the 510 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 8: most secure border and American history. That's in less than 511 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 8: ninety days. It's pretty remarkable. But we also have to 512 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 8: look at our legal immigration system as well. The Biden 513 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 8: administration majorc has use parole programs, temporary protected status, and 514 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 8: these other programs to allow illegal immigrants to come into 515 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 8: this country unvetted. We don't know really who's in this country, 516 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 8: so we have to really take a pause and go 517 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 8: through who did we let in for the last four years. 518 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 8: So I think it's going to take also a unleashed ICE. 519 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 8: Secretary name has been remarkable in that, but the fact is, 520 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 8: for the last four years, Biden did not allow these 521 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 8: ICE agents to actually do their jobs. They were disincentivized 522 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 8: for making any of these arrests, whether it be just 523 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 8: illegal aliens to criminal vicious aliens like these MS thirteen members, 524 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 8: as we've mentioned before. So we have a tall task 525 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 8: and we've got to get these arrests numbers up. But 526 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 8: that's part of the reason why Secretary Nome is on 527 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 8: the ground on a weekly basis with our enforcement officers 528 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 8: from Border and Protection Patrol and from ICE to make 529 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 8: sure that we're getting them the resources they need to 530 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 8: be successful to get these arrests numbers up and to 531 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 8: make sure. 532 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 3: They're safe on the job. 533 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: Let's talk about detention detainers that the ICE needs in 534 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 2: the court systems. They need these courts still alert them 535 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 2: when they have somebody in custody that is clearly needs 536 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 2: to be deported. We still are seeing activists that are 537 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 2: not allowing for that to happen. How big of an 538 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 2: issue is that going to be moving forward and is 539 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 2: there more than the White House can do to stop 540 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:27,239 Speaker 2: that from being a thing. 541 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think the Department of Justice under Attorney General 542 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 8: Pam Bondi is definitely looking at options with these sanctuary cities, 543 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 8: like you mentioned, if ICE isn't able to lodge these 544 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 8: detainers against these criminal aliens, that they could be released 545 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 8: into American communities and go out and commit the same act. Actually, 546 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 8: a couple of weeks ago, Secretary Nome was in New 547 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 8: York City and a lot of listeners will probably remember 548 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 8: this really heinous crime at Coney Island, the subway station 549 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 8: there where this illegal immigrant lit this woman on fire 550 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 8: and killed her. It was incredibly depraved. ICE tried to 551 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 8: lodge a detainer, and we are not sure if that's 552 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 8: going to be honored. So we don't know if, if, 553 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 8: and when this guy will get out, but if he's not, 554 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 8: he could be released back into New York even though 555 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 8: he's in this country illegally. That's the kind of cases 556 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 8: we have to end and that's what I mean case 557 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 8: in point why sanctuary cities are so so dangerous. 558 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 2: Final question for you on moving forward in the next 559 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 2: one hundred days, what do you expect the headlines to 560 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 2: be from this administration on this issue. Obviously, the border 561 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: is secure, we can check that box. We're doing more, 562 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 2: but where is this going to go and what can 563 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 2: the American people expect. 564 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 8: I think you're going to see ramped up deportation numbers. 565 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 8: I think you're going to see more agreements with third 566 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 8: party countries. Whether you see that with Al Salvador that 567 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 8: they're taking some of our most vicious, worse, the worst 568 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 8: criminal aliens. I think you're going to see more of 569 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 8: that from other countries to make sure that these guys 570 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 8: are off of Americans, loyal and take and take part 571 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 8: in getting their. 572 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: Their folks folks back. 573 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 8: I also think we're going to see more, you know, 574 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 8: we're going to see more action with these the courts 575 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 8: and some of these activists judges, but we're not gonna 576 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 8: let it stop us. We have deportation flights going almost 577 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 8: every single day, and Alien and Newmies Act is only 578 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 8: one tool in our arsenal. We have a lot of 579 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 8: authorities to get these people out of the country. 580 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 3: It's incredible. 581 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 2: You guys are doing great work, and your boss is 582 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: doing great work as well. It's nice to have leadership 583 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 2: at the Department of Home in Security that actually knows 584 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 2: who the bad guys are and they're willing to go 585 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 2: after them. Chrisia mcoffin, she is the Assistant Secretary Department 586 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 2: of Homelandsecurity. 587 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 3: Always a pleasure. 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