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Speaker 1: up down Tyler Murray, That defender is in multiple pieces.

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Speaker 1: All that was nasty. Writer rights, the latest news and

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Speaker 1: notes from the guys who cover the teams. Rilled by Simmons.

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons is bawling, Bring it on, bring it on,

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Speaker 1: slam the ground by foot a baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 1: He came flying into the backfield. I scared and nobody

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Speaker 1: here's Paul Calvici. I'm not exactly sure where the scene

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Speaker 1: comes from. Maybe it was the marketing commercial. Maybe it

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Speaker 1: was in existence for a good decade and it was

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Speaker 1: well learned. But the old saying that what happens in

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Speaker 1: Vegas stays in Vegas does not stand here on Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Underground do you get that. Danny Serek, who's just back

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Speaker 1: from Vegas and the Pro Bowl, Paul KELBC, Darren Urban.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Darren, here's a cold beverage. I'll take one myself.

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Speaker 1: Here's a bag of chips. We're gonna start. Just put

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Speaker 1: your feet up, because Danny has stories to tell from

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Speaker 1: a good four or five days at the Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: in Vegas. Go. It was five long days. You stand corrected,

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Speaker 1: because some things do stay in Vegas, Paul, but I didn't.

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Speaker 1: You're right, storyteller, and you were on the NFL's dime,

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Speaker 1: and this is an official NFL podcast you are required

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Speaker 1: you about the interviews at practice, talking to the players,

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Speaker 1: where we went to eat. Okay, there was no bail

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Speaker 1: money provided, right, Darren? You didn't approve any service was repard.

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Speaker 1: What club did you guys hit on Saturday night? What?

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry? What? I'm just gonna shake my head and shot.

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Speaker 1: It was the smile though, before the ship game of

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Speaker 1: the head that really said it. Audio that you can't

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Speaker 1: see here on Cardinals Underground. So there you go. Okay,

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Speaker 1: there is a story to tell. Maybe we'll get it.

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Speaker 1: By the end of the podcast, not exactly sure it was.

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Speaker 1: It was the glitteratio of the Digital Digital team here

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Speaker 1: that we're in Vegas, so I can only imagine what

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Speaker 1: you guys were all doing. Yeah, I'm like Tom Brady,

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Speaker 1: and I respect this stat. He did not participate in

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Speaker 1: the final thirteen Pro Bowls for which he was selected.

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Speaker 1: Is that true? That's a real stat. He hasn't been

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Speaker 1: My god, he hasn't actually played in a Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: for which he was selected, he didn't show, not at all,

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Speaker 1: unlike our own Danny Serek, who was there. And so

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Speaker 1: which you make of the Pro Bowl? By the way,

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Speaker 1: because I watched all of these second quarter and I

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Speaker 1: And then number two, I saw Patrick Mahomes, the final

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Speaker 1: rookie was not aware of protocols and regulations of the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. And it was probably the only thing that

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Speaker 1: I mean the rest of it. Practices were fun. Unfortunately

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Speaker 1: draft is in Vegas. Darren, you're looking at me. I'm

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Speaker 1: been a sceneyone wearing the Joe Burrows sunglasses in Vegas?

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Speaker 1: Are you guys aware that? Apparently, as long as we're

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Speaker 1: taking care of some of the fluff stuff off the top,

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Speaker 1: the Joe Burrows sunglasses apparently are all the rage now.

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Speaker 1: Does remind me of those the colored glasses I used

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Speaker 1: not exactly sure that that is all the rage in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: and they put in their Cincinnati You're gonna be relevant

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Speaker 1: got to win a playoff game for you, Paul, I guess.

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Speaker 1: So you're right. He's already won more playoff games than

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Speaker 1: his former team, the Lines have won since they won

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Speaker 1: you know, the old Bobby Lane NFL championships. So there,

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Speaker 1: take issue with a Pro Bowl MVP in that Desert

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Speaker 1: was he not the MVP with his two touchdown catches?

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Speaker 1: Mark Andrews as a tight end two touchdown catches, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. Let's just put it that way. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that way. So, by the way, neither Pro Bowl punter

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Speaker 1: heard that people fairly regularly will reset an Instagram account,

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Speaker 1: So I don't know what this is about. And I

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Speaker 1: in the absence of an explanation, people are going to wonder.

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Speaker 1: circumstances were. I remember him posting the the Thanos gift

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Speaker 1: playoffs every year, that's that's league wide. I was on

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Speaker 1: this LA Sports radio show, right and this snarky and

427
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 1: they was got a little snarky back and forth. I said, well, okay,

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Speaker 1: you know, let's just face it, guys, going into this game,

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and Matthew Stafford have the same number of

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Speaker 1: playoff wins in their career. Zero. Matthew Stafford is in

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Speaker 1: year thirteen and Kyle is in year three. While that

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00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 1: that blew up in our collective face, but your point

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Speaker 1: is well taken. Until this run to the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford faced a lot of the same criticism obviously, right,

435
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Speaker 1: So it's just once again, until there is a decision

436
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Speaker 1: made on his long term future, then this will persist.

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Speaker 1: This will continue in my opinion, And the particulars are

438
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Speaker 1: that if there's no big contract extension this offseason, then

439
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 1: the Cardinals have to decide by May Darren whether to

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Speaker 1: pick up the contract year, then the rookie year in

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Speaker 1: the fifth year, right three, So there you go. And

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00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: uh and looking by the way, there, if there's not

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Speaker 1: an extension, they're they're going to pick up that option.

444
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: It's a guaranteed year, but they're gonna pick up that option,

445
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: and and it just gives you more leeway. And and

446
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,479
Speaker 1: that's that's how the contracts are set up right now.

447
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: And again, I guess we'll have a chance whenever Kyler

448
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Speaker 1: ends up talking to the media again, which could be

449
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Speaker 1: a while. Um, you know we will. We'll have to

450
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Speaker 1: wait and see what how this plays out without any answers.

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Speaker 1: Probably let's talk to the person if only we had

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Speaker 1: the person who just mostly recently interviewed Kyle. Oh, it's Danny.

453
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: Danny Surrecor was there with Kyler Murray. So he looked

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Speaker 1: really engaging. I mean, dare I say he looked at

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Speaker 1: me in a really good mood. I mean, it's a

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Speaker 1: great atmosphere of the Pro Bowl, right, I mean, everybody

457
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: seemed to be a good mood, joking around, messing around

458
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Speaker 1: all the video you sent back from Vegas. Guys. You

459
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Speaker 1: know Chandler Jones playing receiver for Pizza, I mean the

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Speaker 1: quarterback quarterback. Yeah, he went and wanted to go up

461
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: against Justin Jefferson then in practice and then Buddha was

462
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: the receiver. He's playing wildcat quarterback. And I can't keep

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Speaker 1: it straight. And then they were all catching passes from

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and I asked, I said, because hump, DJ

465
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 1: Humphries caught a pass, Chandler Jones, Buddha Baker, And I'd

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Speaker 1: ask Kyler, is like, an't even worthy of making the switch.

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Speaker 1: And he laughed and he said, hell no, he said,

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Speaker 1: maybe Buddha, maybe he goes. Definitely not DJ and definitely

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Speaker 1: not Chandler. See, I want a big man touchdown out

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Speaker 1: of DJ Humphries. That would be fantastic. That would be

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00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: good forget the mega Watt package. You got to set

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Speaker 1: up DJ Humphries next year. That's right, Speaking of that,

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Speaker 1: we totally missed out. Kyle was right, JJ Watt didn't

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Speaker 1: catch pass this year? Was that the bet really was that? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: We always said it was going to happen and he didn't. Yeah. Well,

476
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: and I'm sure that Kyle would be throwing that in

477
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Speaker 1: our face right now if he was around. You know what, Kyle,

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Speaker 1: it goes for a six seventeen game season, So until

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Speaker 1: the seventeen games expire on JJ Watt because he so

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Speaker 1: you know it's gonna go halfway into next season because

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Speaker 1: he missed half of this season. So that's the qualifier

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Speaker 1: and that okay, that's so. By the way, looking into

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Speaker 1: the future, what about the Rams, the Rams long term?

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Speaker 1: What are we thinking in here in terms of the

485
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Speaker 1: NFC West, because the Niners are obviously going to face

486
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Speaker 1: some change without Jimmy g Did you see the comments

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Speaker 1: from Richard Sherman on Russell Wilson, By the way, Richard

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Speaker 1: Sherman is, well, you know, I didn't see them. He

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Speaker 1: said on his podcast that Seattle will not be a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl contender again until they get back to defense

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Speaker 1: and running the ball. And I'm quoting loosely that the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks have never been close to the Super Bowl, letting

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Speaker 1: Russ cook, and they never will be close to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl letting Russ cook. That they have to play

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Speaker 1: defense and run the ball. That's the DNA of the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks being a winning team the way. I don't want

497
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Speaker 1: to get too far afield, but I just saw a

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Speaker 1: Analytics tweet today of the all the Super Bowl winners

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Speaker 1: of the last decade. I think it was the last decade.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it was fifteen years, but it was at least

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Speaker 1: the last ten years, and almost all of them were

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Speaker 1: exceptional in past defense and passing the ball. Like, if

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Speaker 1: you want to win the super Bowl, I think it

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Speaker 1: was the Super Bowl winners. If you want to win

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl, you know, it was both. It was

506
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Speaker 1: make the super Bowl. If you want to make the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, you either you have to be good at

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Speaker 1: defending the past and you better be good at passing

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Speaker 1: the ball. So that age old axiom that oh you

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Speaker 1: better stop the run and run the ball. No, according

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Speaker 1: to the chart you saw in terms of making the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, Yes, it's the opposite because the Bengals actually

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Speaker 1: have the we're one of the worst passing offenses or worst.

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Speaker 1: And it has to do with analytics and it has

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Speaker 1: to do with you know, expected yards per play all

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Speaker 1: that stuff. You know, it's not straight numbers, which everybody's

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Speaker 1: going like, well, you know, but so but yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: let me see if I can find that real quick

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Speaker 1: while you guys are chatting. Yeah, well look he by

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Speaker 1: the way, um, The NFL account tweeted out that Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrows Bengals are in the Super Bowl one year after

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Speaker 1: winning four games. Was their reversal as dramatic as the

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine ers. Hello, who was the person last

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Speaker 1: week in Cardinals underground, who sighted the eighty nine ers

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Speaker 1: as the comp to Joe Burrows Bengals, and what the

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Speaker 1: Niners did from two years earlier winning two games and

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Speaker 1: then with Joe Montana his third years. So well, it's

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Speaker 1: been a long week for me. But by the passion,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess it was you, Paul, Yeah, I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna I was gonna say maybe me, But I think

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Speaker 1: he pretty much thought himself it was. It was the time.

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00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 1: It was the last twelve Super bowls. Um. You know,

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00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: the way the chart sets up, you have to be

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Speaker 1: really good at defending the pass and really good at

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Speaker 1: a passing offense. There's been a couple of the Broncos

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Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen were really great at defending the pass,

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Speaker 1: not very good at passing the ball, and they actually won.

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Speaker 1: And then there were there were been a couple of

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00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: teams that were really great at passing the ball and

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Speaker 1: actually not great in terms of past defense, the Giants

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Speaker 1: in twenty eleven and the Patriots in twenty eleven actually,

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Speaker 1: But the vast majority of the teams creep up in

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Speaker 1: that quadrant where they're good at both, and that includes

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks, which is why it came up was because

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Speaker 1: the analytics guy is based in Seattle, and everybody's always

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Speaker 1: saying what Richard Sherman said, which was you gotta run

547
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: the ball and you gotta play defense, and it's you know,

548
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: if you can't pass the ball, you're not making the

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00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. And to expand on that, somebody took those

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Speaker 1: comments from Richard Sherman and did the math. And when

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks were at their best, yes, they had the

552
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: Legion of Boom. They had the best defense in the NFL,

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00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: the best NFL scoring defense in the league, there's no

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00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: doubt about that. But Russell Wilson wasn't throwing it nearly

555
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: as much. Just past attempts were like ten less per game, yes,

556
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: versus the last few. And again that's why you have

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00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: to do the analytics, because it has to do with

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00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: what you're doing when you pass it, not necessarily how

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Speaker 1: often you're passing. And so maybe Richard Sherman's point could be, Okay,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna be a passing offense, well, then guess

561
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: what Russell Wilson is in your quarterback? That could be

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00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: his point, maybe that you need someone like a Joe

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00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: Burrow Patrick Mahomes Tom Brady to actually execute. I always

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Speaker 1: thought that was pretty damn good. Me too, and so

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Speaker 1: and I agree day passion I got into this one.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, Dave, what are you talking about? A few

567
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: years ago we debated whether he was going to stay

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00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: in Seattle or not. You know, a couple of years

569
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: ago they entertained trading him to Cleveland, And last year

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00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: there were trade talks with the Chicago Bears, if you

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00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: believe the reports. So let's not treat it like it's

572
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: heresy up in Seattle to talk trading Russell Wilson because

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Speaker 1: it has happened the discussion there up by the decision makers. Now,

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Speaker 1: do I expect him to be traded? No, But if

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Speaker 1: Team Russ is making it difficult behind the scenes, see,

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Speaker 1: I disagree with that that. I think the only way

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Speaker 1: they trade them is because they decide we've gone as

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00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: far they agree with Russ or with the Richard, which is,

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Speaker 1: you've gone as far as you can with Russell Wilson

580
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: and you can't anymore. I as if they think that

581
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson can still win them games and Team Russ

582
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: is giving them problems behind the scenes, I think that's

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00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: a tough tiddaly winks just like Aaron Rodgers. I think

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00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: the Packers kept Aaron Rodgers because he's gonna win you games.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think anybody has given any team

586
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: more grief over the last little bit than Aaron Rodgers

587
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: did to the Packers last year. And they didn't trade him,

588
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: and he's again not going anywhere, just like Kyler's not

589
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: going anywhere. Just like you know, none of these quarterbacks

590
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: are going anywhere unless the team really feels like they've

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Speaker 1: got they've got to get out of whatever situation. And

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Speaker 1: I just don't think a guy complaining a bunch is

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Speaker 1: going to be that guy. I'm not going to disagree

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Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers being a high maintenance the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years with the Packers, but could I also add

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Speaker 1: that it was self inflicted by the Packers in their

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Speaker 1: GM by selecting a quarterback in the first round, trading

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Speaker 1: up to select Jordan Love when they were on the

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Speaker 1: virgin of winning a Super Bowl and Aaron Rodgers all

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Speaker 1: he asked for was another weapon or maybe another offensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: and they went and took his replacement in the draft

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Speaker 1: that you know at that blue back in the face

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Speaker 1: I'm okay with that up to the point where Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers sure didn't have any problem, you know, replacing Brett Farb.

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00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: I mean again, that's what this organization did. That's how

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers got there in the first place. He replaced

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00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: He was replacing a legend. And that's so. And he

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00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: asked the Steelers if if they think it was a

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Speaker 1: good idea to not mess with Ben Roethlisberger and just

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Speaker 1: let him play out without any kind of succession plan.

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Speaker 1: That's that you think that's gonna be a bigger problem.

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Speaker 1: By the way, my hot take of this edition of

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Underground brought to you by Pacific Office Automation. Just

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Speaker 1: like Brett Farb retired and then ended up playing three

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Speaker 1: more years, yes with the Jets and then the Vikings,

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Speaker 1: I think Tom Brady's coming back. It'll just be with

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, and it'll be in this division.

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Speaker 1: That's hot tea. He's waiting to see if the forty

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Speaker 1: nine Ers give him a call after this season and

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Speaker 1: whether he might go back and be the quarterback of exactly. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it won't be. This will be this year. He's already

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Speaker 1: talking about it on his podcast for Pete's sake, and

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Speaker 1: then and they already back forty Niners give a draft

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Speaker 1: pick to the Buccaneers. Isn't it doesn't his contract expire

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00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: after this year? It bucks if you retire, Well, maybe

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Speaker 1: it does. Maybe if you retire, I guess the contract

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00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily toll. That's what makes it a hot take.

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Speaker 1: I didn't totally research it, So there you go. Okay.

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Speaker 1: By the way, is that what a hot take is?

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Speaker 1: A year and a half week can know whether or

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Speaker 1: not to give you credit or flak to Paul, that's right,

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00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: that's right, and then hopefully by that time Kyle will

633
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: be wrong as well, and the JJ watt and we

634
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Speaker 1: just have to buy ourselves another half season. That's that's

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Speaker 1: where we're going. By the way, I can also say,

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Speaker 1: if the Rams lose this Super Bowl, it's the four

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Speaker 1: letter F word fail. Oh yeah. We didn't really talk

638
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Speaker 1: about whether the Rams are long term, did we? And

639
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: so the near term is do they win Super Bowl

640
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: fifty six? And I'm saying if they don't, guess what,

641
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: this season is a fail because this franchise knows all

642
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: too well about losing super Bowls. They're already one than

643
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: three in Super Bowls and Sean mcvay's been there and

644
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: done that in eighteen So I mean to me, this

645
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: is win or bust for the Rams. There's no glory

646
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: in making the Super Bowl. Sure, they made a lot

647
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: of money on their own stadium, I'm guessing okay, and

648
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: they helped paid down the mortgage on that six plus

649
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: billion dollars stadium. But to me, it's all or nothing

650
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: right now. If you're the Rams. You went all in

651
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: on the veterans and all these pieces you bought in it,

652
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: and in asking about long term, I don't know at

653
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: the top of my head how many of those deals

654
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: with obj or von Miller, like Aaron Donald, how much

655
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: longer are they Beckham and millerable free agents? Yeah so,

656
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: so I don't even know realistically how could that be

657
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: how they'll be long term? Are they all going to

658
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: be willing to stay and be able to afford all that?

659
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: I don't know the answer that, but I definitely think

660
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: this is you have to win this Super Bowl. Everything

661
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: you've put in to get Matthew Stafford, all these big

662
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: pieces on both sides of the ball, you have to

663
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: go and win. I see, I have a different view

664
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: of Obviously you want to win. Obviously, it's a massive

665
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: disappointment to get this far and you don't win. We've

666
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: been through that, but I don't I mean, they're there.

667
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: It means something to get there. Like I am one

668
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 1: of those people that says it means something that the

669
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: Bills made four super Bowls and it wasn't a waste

670
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: even though they didn't win any of them. Obviously, it's

671
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: it's hard if you're a Bills fan to think about

672
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: those times. I'm sure if you're a player on those teams,

673
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: it's really hard to think about those times. I know

674
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,959
Speaker 1: the one super Bowl the Cardinals made, those players still

675
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 1: very much regret not winning that game. And so yes,

676
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: that part of it's there, but it is it a

677
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: massive failure. I mean, for me, you got there. You

678
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: built the team to get there. Yeah, you built the

679
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: team to win. You want to win, but you built

680
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: a team to get there. Anything can happen on win

681
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: one game. I mean, this isn't a series. This is

682
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: one game. But if this is a team and a

683
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: coach who has found their way there multiple times, you

684
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: need to be able to show that you can capitalize.

685
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: And I think all the moves they made to get

686
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: these veterans and these pieces says, Okay, let's see if

687
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: we can actually do it. I don't disagree, but again,

688
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: and I'm just going because it's the easiest, easiest parallel here.

689
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: I don't think Marv Levy is any less of a

690
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: coach because he went oh on four in those Super Bowls.

691
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: I don't think Jim Kelly is a It shouldn't be

692
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame because he lost those four

693
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: Super Bowls. So I don't You're not wrong they you

694
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: want to win. I don't. I don't. I'm not putting

695
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 1: a big l on their head. I think Sean McVay

696
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: is still a damn good coach whether they win or

697
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: lose on Sunday. Yeah, look, get into a super Bowl.

698
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: As he's saying, goes, it's not nothing. I get it. Yeah,

699
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: But I guess I would say this RAMS team from

700
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: the outside looking in, appears to be much different than

701
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 1: that Bill's team in that that Bill's team was set

702
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: up to go to four straight Super Bowls. Well, it

703
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: was before free agency, so every team that was good

704
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: was set up to be more successful long term. I'm

705
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 1: just saying the rules of the game. Then, the rules

706
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: of the game then were such that they were a

707
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: long term, is successful franchise. I don't think anybody looks

708
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: at the Rams and think they have that sort of

709
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: stain power. Maybe not, But I'm going to argue this

710
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: right now, given everything, and I know you can argue

711
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: the other side because of youth and things like that,

712
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: I would argue strongly that there is a better chance

713
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: the Rams are in the Super Bowl next year than

714
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: the Bengals. So really, who's under more pressure to win

715
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: this year? Well, if you look at the NFC and

716
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: you say Tom Brady out, if you think Aaron Rodgers

717
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: is going maybe to Denver, you know, if you're going

718
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: to look at the conferences and the overall conference strength,

719
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: I might be apt to agree with you on that.

720
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: There is also this stat which I couldn't believe. The

721
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: team that got the most snaps this season out of

722
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: players on rookie contracts the Los Angeles Rams, believe it

723
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: or not, For all the big names, for all the

724
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: draft picks they traded away, they actually got the most

725
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: snaps out of players on rookie contracts. Some of that

726
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: was out of necessity, especially recently, they've been decimated by

727
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: injuries in particular in their secondary. You know, with the

728
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: exception of the minivan driver Eric Weddell, there's been a

729
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: lot of youth in that secondary, there's no doubt about it.

730
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: But I know that they give up a lot of

731
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,439
Speaker 1: those first you know, couple round picks. But I don't

732
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: remember the stat off the top of my head now,

733
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: but I remember seeing about the rams like they still

734
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: have had over the last couple of years. Yes, significant

735
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: amount of draft picks. Like they're just doing more back

736
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: end deals and they're either really good at evaluating talent

737
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: or they're really good at helping those young players grow

738
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 1: into what they want them to be in their system

739
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: and helping them evolve a paying dividends. Also, when you

740
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: have enough stars at other places, maybe your other pieces

741
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: don't have to be quite as good, or you don't

742
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: need to rely on so many rookies at once because

743
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: you know, because you have so many stars, which you've

744
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: got Cooper Cup, who's gonna who's still playing on a

745
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: rookie contract, then he's arguably right now the best receiver. Noises,

746
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: he's still pretty sure because I didn't realize he was

747
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 1: that young. Don't think Cooper Cup has been around. I'm

748
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: gonna I'm pretty sure he's still on his rookie contract.

749
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: But I mean, just talking about the division. Getting back

750
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: to Russell Wilson. You know, if I'm team Russ, my

751
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: gripe with John Schneider is just the draft record, the

752
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 1: track record a poor draft. I mean over the course

753
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: of his career, they killed it. I mean they absolutely

754
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: killed it in eleven, twelve, and thirteen and haven't done

755
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: anything for basically the last decade. He got drafted in

756
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, so he is not on his rookie contract.

757
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: I apologize Cooper cup what about but he's probably not

758
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: getting paid as much as he should be getting given

759
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: what he does. Can I say this that the whole

760
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: thing about the Rams having this competitive advantage because they

761
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: have the home field advantage, the fact they've been able

762
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: to work out at their facility this week and sleep

763
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: in their own bed, and they're going to stay at

764
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: the regular team hotel the night before the game. To me,

765
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: that's not nearly as big an advantage as the experience

766
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: advantage that the Rams have from twenty eighteen. Aren't there

767
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: as technically the away team, isn't it the year AFC yeah,

768
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: But I mean just like, for example, Sean McVay has

769
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: gone on the record and he said, you know, and

770
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: he looks back at twenty eighteen and that Super Bowl

771
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: in his play call and he said, what are her regrets?

772
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: As it was paralysis by over analysis, just too much

773
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: thought went into it. And so they learned a few

774
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: hard lessons in twenty eighteen and that loss to the

775
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: Patriots in that Super Bowl. So which if you want

776
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: to go full circle and if for a Cardinals connection,

777
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: maybe the key to this Super Bowl is Drew Stanton,

778
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: because what Drew stan said on the Red Sea Report

779
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: is that he took Tom Brady's Super Bowl playbook in

780
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: terms of how to prepare for those two weeks and

781
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: how to handle the schedule and what to do when.

782
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: And he said he took that document after winning a

783
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 1: ring with Tom Brady in BA in twenty twenty and

784
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: he sent that to Matthew. So he's on a first

785
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: name basis of Matthew Stafford's former teammate in the Lions.

786
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: So there's that little tidbit in Cardinals connection on that.

787
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: But I keep but speaking of BA, see when I

788
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: see the Rams, I think of the all or nothing.

789
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: I think of BA in front of the team to

790
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 1: start the season in training camp saying, this isn't about

791
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: a super Bowl. This is about a Super Bowl ring

792
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: and that to me is the La Rams this year. Agreed,

793
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: But I don't. I don't see how they're any different

794
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: than the Bengals in terms of that. But you get you.

795
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: It's so rare that you get there. You know that

796
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: right to some degree it's a must win, right, yeah,

797
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: I get that. By the way, seventy seven year old

798
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: al Michaels will be calling his eleventh Super Bowl. You

799
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: guys know that. It's eight miles from his home in

800
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: LA just in case you guys were wondering. So he

801
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: just makes the short drive over, he calls the game.

802
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: I know you're on a first name basis. Here's no

803
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go a little deeper. That's Wolf, you know,

804
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: Wolf and him there their text buddies with al Michaels.

805
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if he still has the flipbone or not,

806
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: but he did as of the you know last Cardinals prominence,

807
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: which I bring up because this is the third time

808
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: that al Michaels has not called a game of one

809
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: of the participants before they got to the Super Bowl.

810
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: The Bengals were such a long got to get to

811
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. This season, they were never featured in

812
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: prime time. Al Michael's never called one of their games

813
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 1: this year, well featured on Sunday Night Sunday Night Football,

814
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: and so they say this is the third time that

815
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: has ever happened, sort of in the modern era. One

816
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: of the other times that didn't happen the Cardinals two

817
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, who did not make a Sunday Night

818
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: Football appearance because al michael has been called Sunday Football

819
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: since like oh six, Yes, although they got John Mannen's

820
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: last game cardrum. Yeah, so I just thought i'd throw

821
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: it out there. So there you go on that. No,

822
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: you're impressed it. I'm always impressed a by you, Darren. So,

823
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: you know, Danny, when things start to wane here, we

824
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: need like a Vegas story, you know what's going on.

825
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: You know, there's nothing you can tell us. There was

826
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: nothing because Darren is he won't admit it. He's into

827
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: the selastious, he's into the sensational. I mean nothing, there's

828
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: no little tidbit you can share, you know what's funny.

829
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: And I hope this doesn't consider throwing James Connor under

830
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: the bus. But something that we did was key on

831
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: our social team. Brought a bunch of disposable cameras. So

832
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: he gave them to the players at practice and he's gonna,

833
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: you know, have him developed. And so the first day

834
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: of practice, James Connor, he's getting miked up. I just

835
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: done my interview with him, and Q's explaining this all

836
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: to him and he hands in the camera and he

837
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: looks at us and he goes, how do I use this?

838
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 1: I'm only like a year or two older than whatever.

839
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: Those are the cameras like I grew up bringing, like

840
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: to summer camp and all that. We were like you

841
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: just scroll and click, can scroll and click. It's funny

842
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: because I thought on the one of the videos, I

843
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: saw Buddha with one of those, and I'm like, why

844
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: does Buddha have a disposable that explains that. I'm like,

845
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: I can't believe a player would have a disposable camera these. Yeah,

846
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty funny. Uh yeah, for those listening,

847
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: go go check out the content. We got a lot

848
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: of one on one interviews, which was fun. DJ Humphreys

849
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: was a blast in his interview talking about he was

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Speaker 1: spending time golfing and I asked him, I said, are

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Speaker 1: you a golfer? And he was like, no, but I

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Speaker 1: dressed went really well and confidence is not my issue.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, clearly, I can tell confidence is not

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Speaker 1: where you are lacking. DJ and we had a goper

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Speaker 1: on him one practice and he was so funny in that.

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Speaker 1: And he was talking to George Kittle because he was

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Speaker 1: wearing a go pro and they were talking to each

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Speaker 1: other there, and you know, DJ, at one point he

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Speaker 1: was like, I feel like a little kid. I've lost

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Speaker 1: all my friends because like the other Cardinals weren't stretching

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Speaker 1: with him. It was just it was fun commentary. It

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Speaker 1: was fun being out there with the our group from

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Speaker 1: our department, the players that were out there watching them

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Speaker 1: interact with fans, a bunch of Cardinals fans. This is crazy.

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Speaker 1: There was a fan and it was the first day

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Speaker 1: of practice, so Thursday, and it was an older man

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Speaker 1: and he had a kid with him and he had

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Speaker 1: Buddha signed his left hand and he comes to practice

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Speaker 1: the next day. We see him again and he had

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Speaker 1: already had that autograph tattooed on his hand. So then

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Speaker 1: come Saturday, when we're walking around with the players after

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Speaker 1: the last practice, he gets Kyler Murray to sign his

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Speaker 1: other hand and James Connor to sign his forearm to

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Speaker 1: get those tattooed as well. Okay, wow, that is some commitment,

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Speaker 1: Red Sea commitment right there. Yeah. I know this is

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Speaker 1: shocking probably everyone, especially in the studio, that I do

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Speaker 1: not rock a tattoo of any sword, but man to

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Speaker 1: make a life changing decision like that instantly off. I mean, okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, much respect on that one. That's uh, you know, interesting,

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Speaker 1: That's okay, Yes, that's what I was thinking. Interesting. Interesting, Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, just to you know, just to go ahead

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Speaker 1: and illustrate, you know that all the social media drama

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Speaker 1: has to do with big name quarterbacks. You know, I was,

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Speaker 1: I am curious, I will say. You know, I thought

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Speaker 1: we featured Darren Urban pretty well last week in a

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Speaker 1: tweet on Cardinals Underground, But it didn't get a lot

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Speaker 1: from Darren on that one either. You know, we featured

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Speaker 1: his analysis on a tweet last week, but it got

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Speaker 1: no love whatsoever. So I like, how Paul like you know,

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Speaker 1: waited to like drop that on me on the air.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I thought, maybe we bring a full circle,

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Speaker 1: you know, the whole social media drama, you know, more

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Speaker 1: ways than one over here. Yeah, so there you go. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: air five over there as I feel horrible as we

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Speaker 1: let that linger for Darren Urban here and call it

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