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Speaker 1: Steven, thank you so much for joining us. Thank Steen.

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Speaker 1: Do Hey, how you guys doing. Hope you had a

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Speaker 1: thankful Thanksgiving with your family and uh just uh trying

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Speaker 1: to get through this week. It's been a tough one,

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Speaker 1: a tough one for our organization. Totally understandable. Yes, sir Steven,

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Speaker 1: it's been I mean, it's been a tough year, but

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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of us Cowboys fans are

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Speaker 1: are just curious, you know that with the loss of

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Speaker 1: to put on a good performance. But if you could

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Speaker 1: just maybe let let us Cowboys fans know just how

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Speaker 1: much Marcus Paul meant to everyone in the Cowboys organization. Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, you won't meet a more sweeter, better

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Speaker 1: he's touched, not only uh you know, as a coach.

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Speaker 1: But I was watching before our game yesterday and thus

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Speaker 1: straight hand made a comment about how special Marcus Paul

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Speaker 1: was to him, especially in their Super Bowl run. He

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Speaker 1: were making their Super Bowl run. And you know, these

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Speaker 1: strength and conditioning coaches do so much for our players

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Speaker 1: and so much for these athletes there, you know, certainly

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Speaker 1: you know, he's just was such a special guy. And

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Speaker 1: you know, these strength and conditioning coaches touch all of

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Speaker 1: our players. They're not like an offensive coordinator or a

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Speaker 1: These guys work with everybody. And certainly he was so

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Speaker 1: faces before the game, just how much when obviously they

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Speaker 1: he's just done so much for us. He's gonna be

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Speaker 1: so messed And you just can't say enough about what

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Speaker 1: a special man, what a sweet man, what a good man,

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Speaker 1: Marcus Ball was and certainly will be so messed by

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Speaker 1: everyone in our organization, from ownership to coaching staff right

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Speaker 1: on down to the players. You know, it's it's with

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Speaker 1: heavy hearts this week that we proceed on. You know, Stephen.

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Speaker 1: You talked about all those things and how he affected

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Speaker 1: even outside of the Cowboys organization. You mentioned his stint

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Speaker 1: I found this out on Tuesday. I guess that he

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Speaker 1: long time relationship too. Well we uh, certainly Darryl had

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Speaker 1: me up immediately Tuesday. You know, he just uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's just life after life he touched. Certainly Jason Garrett

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Speaker 1: you could tell he just wherever he went, whatever, on

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Speaker 1: And you know, at fifty four years old, it just

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Speaker 1: it's just hard to really hard to get your hands around,

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Speaker 1: and certainly numbing. Yes, the man is totally beloved and

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Speaker 1: again a condulecence to his families and of course his friends.

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Speaker 1: They just announced breaking news about a half hour ago

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Speaker 1: back to Monday, December the seventh instead of next Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Does that actually help you guys off the field, with

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Speaker 1: the grieving process on the field, with figuring out some

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Speaker 1: Can you talk about the pluses and minuses of that

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Speaker 1: game being pushed back to the Monday, December seventh. Well, certainly,

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Speaker 1: football games don't come to any uh, you know, don't

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Speaker 1: no excuse. We just uh you know, we just didn't

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Speaker 1: Certainly some challenges in front of us that uh you

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Speaker 1: get to work. I know, Coach McCarthy's you know, been

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Speaker 1: here on the fan. Steven, what did you, uh what

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Speaker 1: what was your reaction to the fake punt, the decision

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Speaker 1: Did you did you agree with it? I'm never going

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Speaker 1: coaching decisions. I mean, when they work, they're great. When

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Speaker 1: certainly get challenged, they get second guests. Uh. Certainly, we're

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Speaker 1: You know, he's got the pulse of this football team

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Speaker 1: as I said, those those decisions are always second guests

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Speaker 1: the fact that, hey, Zekiel, it's the best player on

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Speaker 1: I mean, these are all great questions. Again, I'm not

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Speaker 1: I'm not in a situation where I ever second guess

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Speaker 1: what a coach that I call a coach makes. I mean, obviously, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, the CD was out there. You know, it

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Speaker 1: could be argued that he was certainly interfered with but uh,

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Speaker 1: loss yesterday. The score doesn't indicate how close that game

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Speaker 1: love the way that Andy Dalton played. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: those balls in the future, so we had an opportunity there.

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Speaker 1: But I do think Andy gave us every opportunity, gave

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Speaker 1: football over the next five weeks. Stephen, Do you do

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Speaker 1: that a good going over. Obviously, with the game being

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Speaker 1: You take care, buddy boy. Hey, thanks a lot, guys,