Speaker 1: Hell I Suck At Dating with Dean, Vanessa and Jared
Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio Podcast. Hello everyone, and welcome to
Speaker 1: another episode of Help I Suck At Dating. We have
Speaker 1: another very special episode today, not just because of the
Speaker 1: topic that we're going to be discussing, while that is
Speaker 1: a very special topic, but also because it's one of
Speaker 1: those rare moments where all three of us, Jared, Vanessa
Speaker 1: and myself are in studio together and we're just having
Speaker 1: the best time. We're just hashing it out, you know,
Speaker 1: We're just sitting around talking about dating life, relationships, having
Speaker 1: having a gay old time. Why is that saying falling
Speaker 1: off time anymore? I think it's taking a different meaning
Speaker 1: behind it now. It's just frustrating. I know what was
Speaker 1: It's in the Brady Bunch song? Is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: They say something about how happy and gay they are.
Speaker 1: Didn't they remake a Brady Bunch of movie or something
Speaker 1: like that? Previously? Too, there was two sequels. There was
Speaker 1: a Brady Bunch and the Brady Bunch Equal. You seem
Speaker 1: like the kind of guy who go see that one
Speaker 1: of those movies in theaters. I think I saw the
Speaker 1: first one in theater and he disappointed I was like
Speaker 1: six at the time. It really wasn't my choice. I
Speaker 1: was the parents. I'm sorry. I thought it was within
Speaker 1: the past five years. No, not to my knowledge. I
Speaker 1: just remember the one from the nineties that was pretty fantastic.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, but it was a parody of
Speaker 1: The Brady Bunch. It was it was a movie of
Speaker 1: The Brady Bunch, but was also a parody. I love
Speaker 1: how much you know about movies with the same actors
Speaker 1: and actors are quite sad. No, no, no, no no recasting.
Speaker 1: They had some of the former cast from the seventies
Speaker 1: make cameos. It was interesting. Yeah, I didn't realize that
Speaker 1: Bretty Bunch was the seventies show. I didn't even know
Speaker 1: TV was around in the seven Yeah. Yeah, watching Pretty
Speaker 1: Bunch what they were wearing, it was like, I just
Speaker 1: don't remember the iconic intro with like the squares or
Speaker 1: them like going down. It was like them going down
Speaker 1: the staircase. Yeah, and it was like, how's that song go?
Speaker 1: It's a The Brady Bunch and at the Brady Bunch,
Speaker 1: and I don't know that rings no bells for me, nothing, nothing.
Speaker 1: You never watched an episode story by there, So the
Speaker 1: reason I know that too is because they obviously do
Speaker 1: so many parodies of that for Tom Brady, where it's
Speaker 1: like always my fault. He brought up the Brady Bunch
Speaker 1: and he's very right, but maybe he totally did it
Speaker 1: before that episode started. Did you guys watch um like
Speaker 1: real like real shows like that as children or cartoons?
Speaker 1: I love cartoons? What was your go to cartoon? Um? Well,
Speaker 1: I actually loved I don't know if you guys had
Speaker 1: this t G I F t JF like Friday Friday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they had no the On Fridays they'd have like
Speaker 1: a lineup of Sabrina the Teenage, which it wasn't a cartoon,
Speaker 1: but I loved anything Boy meants World, Sabrina the Teenage which, Um,
Speaker 1: then there was another one with the basketball was that
Speaker 1: no hang Time? And then there was that TV show
Speaker 1: that what's his name was on it on a boat.
Speaker 1: That's how he became he became famous. He was on
Speaker 1: the Notebook. Yeah, I guess because he's a king. That
Speaker 1: was a Disney thing. That was the Disney Channel. No,
Speaker 1: it wasn't a Disney No, well he because he was
Speaker 1: he was a Disney kid. I remember that. No, but
Speaker 1: this is when he was a teenager. He anyways, the
Speaker 1: premise of the show was he was a student on
Speaker 1: a on a boat, on a cruise ship breaker high
Speaker 1: Breaker high that. I guess it's an I guess it's
Speaker 1: a Canadian. It was a Canadian show. Okay, that makes
Speaker 1: so good. I'm like, I want to go in to school.
Speaker 1: I want to go to school on a boat. Was
Speaker 1: going famous in Canada before he started really becoming famale.
Speaker 1: I think he really became famous because of the Notebook.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was like the Notebook was his big one. Um.
Speaker 1: Because it's funny looking back at Ryan Gosling's IMDb and
Speaker 1: I didn't know if like in Canada they're like, hey,
Speaker 1: we got a guy and remember the Titans, Like he's
Speaker 1: going to play the cornerback. He's a Canadian. I don't
Speaker 1: even remember that. Yeah, you know I was the blondead.
Speaker 1: He's the blond kid. Well, you know how the Notebook.
Speaker 1: So apparently they cast him as the lead of the show.
Speaker 1: And then what happens with is when you're making a
Speaker 1: movie and you know you have a lead of the show, Oh,
Speaker 1: you want to make sure that the person that they're
Speaker 1: going to be uh playing with is like they have
Speaker 1: a lot of chemistry. So apparently they hired him and
Speaker 1: then they brought in McAdams. Yeah, exactly, and they thought
Speaker 1: that the chemistry was like crazy. There's an audition tape
Speaker 1: of Rachel McAdams reading for the part of Alley and
Speaker 1: Notebook with Ryan Gosling, who has already casted. But apparently
Speaker 1: there was rumors that they really did not get along
Speaker 1: on set, which is interesting because then they date dated, yeah,
Speaker 1: for years after that. I wonder if they broke up
Speaker 1: during the movie too. Um, I can look that up
Speaker 1: while you guys talk to someone. I wonder strats are
Speaker 1: for people who um play like a scene with their partner,
Speaker 1: and how many people actually end up dating after I
Speaker 1: bet you that the fact that Gosling and McAdams had
Speaker 1: its multuous relationship would help them both in that role
Speaker 1: because it wasn't it kind of like a movie where
Speaker 1: they had ups and downs in their relationships. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: there's one of the great Like, I mean, I sometimes
Speaker 1: can be a little dark, but there is a scene
Speaker 1: in that movie that I love. It's the fighting scene
Speaker 1: that everybody watches. It's where Ali goes back so she's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: she well, she goes so Ali goes to see Ryan Gosling.
Speaker 1: They make love because they haven't seen each other in
Speaker 1: years and they're still in love with each other, but
Speaker 1: she's getting married to this guy. And then she goes
Speaker 1: back and she's like, that was a mistake. I shouldn't
Speaker 1: be with you. And then Ryan Gosling gives just an
Speaker 1: awesome performance where he's, you know, trying to tell her
Speaker 1: that he's the one she really wants and she doesn't
Speaker 1: love the other guy. And we watched movies like this
Speaker 1: or like, oh, this is real life, this is what
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be. Like, yeah, it's the meme where
Speaker 1: he's like, what do you want? And now it's like
Speaker 1: a meme of like anytime to dinner, what do you want?
Speaker 1: I don't know? Um, so, yeah, it's pretty fantastic. Is
Speaker 1: that I don't know? No, it's she doesn't say anything.
Speaker 1: That's the whole point. It's like she's so indecisive, she
Speaker 1: can't even say anything. Anyways, That love story is so cute.
Speaker 1: We break down romantic movies. That's definitely a relationship topic.
Speaker 1: Do that on an episode that I'm not here because
Speaker 1: I don't know as much about movies, so, oh, you
Speaker 1: know way more than I do. There's got to be
Speaker 1: some sort of romantic movie that you have seen, or
Speaker 1: Titanic seeing Titanic. Yeah, but I feel like Jared could
Speaker 1: dissect these movies ten ways from about dissecting, but there's
Speaker 1: got to be a movie that you love out there
Speaker 1: that what about how was a guy in ten Days? Definitely?
Speaker 1: Maybe I think it's about you, Definitely. Maybe that's an
Speaker 1: interesting choice. Ryan Reynolds fan, He's like my, He's like my,
Speaker 1: He's my cheap guy. You know. Really she's also Canadian, right, Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think Rymes he's from Vancouver. A lot of the
Speaker 1: good ones I like to call out the Canadian people.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of good ones. Keanu Reeves is Canadian. Yeah, Yes,
Speaker 1: there's some good Canadian blood that I'm very envious of.
Speaker 1: It isn't Jim Carrey Canadian, Wayne Gretzky's Canadian, Wayne Gretzky's Canadian,
Speaker 1: Vanessa Grimaldi's Canadian, Vanessamaldi's Canadian, Justin Bieber's Canadian Calm Bristoke.
Speaker 1: I mean, Drake's awesome obviously, but also very annoying. During
Speaker 1: the NBA Finals, did you see that post that he
Speaker 1: um when he was going into I don't know Who's
Speaker 1: hair and got a piece of lint and then posted
Speaker 1: a picture saying this lint is up for sale on
Speaker 1: eBay and it actually so Yeah, he was such a troll. Um,
Speaker 1: there's not so definitely maybe as you'r like, go to
Speaker 1: Ryan Ryan, Ryan Reynolds, what about yours? Who might go to? Um?
Speaker 1: Obviously I'm a big one. Harry met Sally Van Is
Speaker 1: that obvious? Um, it's pretty obvious. I guess, oh, if
Speaker 1: you want, well, it's not obvious. But um, when everything
Speaker 1: was happening with Ashley and me, that movie was just
Speaker 1: very resonated, resonated a lot, especially the end when Billy
Speaker 1: Crystal is because they've been friends in the movie, their
Speaker 1: friends for ten years before Billy Crystal is like, he
Speaker 1: goes to her at a New Year's Eve party. It's
Speaker 1: a fantastic scene at the end of the movie. He
Speaker 1: goes after Meg Ryan and she's standing there and it's
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve and he's like, when you find out
Speaker 1: who you want to spend the rest of your life with,
Speaker 1: you what the rest of your life to start as
Speaker 1: soon as possible. I mean, that's cute. Yeah, we have
Speaker 1: Ashley and I have a little picture in our bedroom
Speaker 1: that has that quite yeah, And I think our hashtag
Speaker 1: for the wedding is going to be when Jared met
Speaker 1: Ashley because we can't really think of one. That's a
Speaker 1: great question that I never even thought to ask, what's
Speaker 1: the wedding hashtag when Jared met? Actually? We're thinking so
Speaker 1: that on in Ashley's bridal shower, it said it, it
Speaker 1: said when Jared met Actually, that was like the hashtag
Speaker 1: for a bridle shower. So I'm assuming that's going to
Speaker 1: be for the wedding. It's more of Ashley's decision than mine.
Speaker 1: I'm very indifferent because we can't think of a really
Speaker 1: a good one. Um, and that's cute and funny, and
Speaker 1: do you actually crowdsource it, like like put it out
Speaker 1: to Instagram and be like, hey, we're trying to think
Speaker 1: of something super creative. And we did that, and there's
Speaker 1: a couple of good ones that I can't remember off
Speaker 1: the top of my head. But well, it was like
Speaker 1: when Ashley I becomes Ashley H or something along she
Speaker 1: taking your last name, she will be taking my last name.
Speaker 1: But she's still debating whether she's gonna Typhone. I think
Speaker 1: she's finally decided she's gonna hyphen CANETI, so she may
Speaker 1: be Ashley Nicole Ashley Nicole I CANETI Han. And what
Speaker 1: about your children? Uh, they'll take my last name, so
Speaker 1: just be blank. It's just crazy though, Like, can' we
Speaker 1: just have that discussion. Why is it that children have
Speaker 1: to take the men's last name um? Because they're like,
Speaker 1: what the history behind that? Because men um? I think
Speaker 1: it's probably just a sosogynistic thing. Yeah, it's definitely, but
Speaker 1: why are we still doing that? I agree? I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: Josh's last name is Wolf. I would love for my
Speaker 1: if we have kids, I would love for my kids
Speaker 1: to have his last name. So I've been pretty vocal
Speaker 1: about this. On the flip side of that, if and
Speaker 1: when I get married, I would take my wife's last
Speaker 1: name because it's such a suit you like doing things
Speaker 1: in reverse. It's just such a ridiculous tradition. Like I
Speaker 1: get it, Everyone does it, so it's like we're going
Speaker 1: to do it, But at the same time, it's like,
Speaker 1: why why do the men get to keep your last name? Also,
Speaker 1: my last name is like not that cool, so and
Speaker 1: I think back in Montreal and Quebec. At one point
Speaker 1: you had to change the women had to change their
Speaker 1: last name to their husband, but they had to pay
Speaker 1: for it. Yeah, now it's not you don't have to
Speaker 1: do it anymore, but at one point you had to
Speaker 1: pay for it, so you would become Vanessa Wolf. I
Speaker 1: don't I have never really thought about it. It It sounds
Speaker 1: pretty cool. Yeah, Vanessa Grimaldi is pretty right. There's not
Speaker 1: a lot of Grimaldi's out there because it's super unique.
Speaker 1: Nuele's unique. But like in a weird way. I always say,
Speaker 1: it sounds like you're kind of gagging when you say,
Speaker 1: like right, and I have two brothers and so like
Speaker 1: they could let the family name live on. Also, I
Speaker 1: don't really give a funk about my family name, Like
Speaker 1: why do we care? Like I was going to ask
Speaker 1: you that it's kind of egotistical of us. Still almost
Speaker 1: be like I want my family's name to live on.
Speaker 1: Is it egotistical or is it pride? Yeah, Like there
Speaker 1: is a little bit of me that wants to keep
Speaker 1: the Haven name just because it's my family name, and
Speaker 1: it's my dad's name and my grandfather's name. And I
Speaker 1: know that might be egotistical, but it's also kind of like,
Speaker 1: is it egotistical to say I'm a proud American? I
Speaker 1: don't know. There's a balance right where you want to
Speaker 1: be a nationalist and say you're like, hey, I'm a
Speaker 1: proud Canadian, um, but there's that other side to say, well,
Speaker 1: we're not better than anybody, but I'm also very proud
Speaker 1: to of who where I come from. Are you a
Speaker 1: proud American? Uh? Yeah, I'm definitely proud American. I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: not to say there's a lot of stains in this
Speaker 1: country that are currently happened and obviously with our history
Speaker 1: where we have uh screwed up many many times. But
Speaker 1: you know, so I have a lot of different countries
Speaker 1: in a lot of different I like to say, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm happy to be an American, but I'm not necessarily
Speaker 1: proud of it, you know what I mean. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's especially when you travel so much, like you say
Speaker 1: you're from, you say, well that you people always prick
Speaker 1: up like, oh U s a like I love us
Speaker 1: a blah blah blah. But it's just like the connotations
Speaker 1: of stains all that kind of stuff. There's a lot's
Speaker 1: a lot about history here Are you proud to be white? Uh? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: Because I also there's we're living in a society right
Speaker 1: now where I feel like you have to shift on
Speaker 1: being white. Like I feel like, like anything I do
Speaker 1: in my life, if I'm successful, I feel like I
Speaker 1: have to make like put in contexts, be like I
Speaker 1: know I'm privileged, I know I'm white, Like I'm sorry, Um,
Speaker 1: like I have to. I feel like I have to
Speaker 1: say that before I can be proud of anything I do.
Speaker 1: Um to be like, hey, I'm proud I did this.
Speaker 1: I know I'm privileged. I know I had to, you know,
Speaker 1: I know, grow up white. Um. So there's a part
Speaker 1: of me that wants to be like yes, But at
Speaker 1: the same time, like that's okay. You know, it's okay
Speaker 1: to be white. It's cool to be white, it's cool
Speaker 1: to be black, it's cool to be Asian, it's cool
Speaker 1: to be a lot of different ethnicities, you know, everyth
Speaker 1: But it's whatever you are, you should be proud of
Speaker 1: it kind of thing. I think. So, you know, because
Speaker 1: I think especially in this culture right now, the political
Speaker 1: culture that we live in. Not to make this a
Speaker 1: political podcast, but I think there's a lot I don't
Speaker 1: want to talk about the podcast We Can I love
Speaker 1: that about politics. Yeah, I'd love to talk to you
Speaker 1: about this off air, because I have a lot of
Speaker 1: opinions about any Yeah, I heard you and Josh really
Speaker 1: get into politics. Yeah, but I think maybe the some
Speaker 1: of the reason why we are in the state we
Speaker 1: are within this country is because there's a lot of
Speaker 1: people who feel I'm not saying this is right or wrong,
Speaker 1: but they feel like they're walking on glass a little
Speaker 1: bit um and that's obviously very I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't want especially in the landscape that where now it's
Speaker 1: like everyone gets offended by everything that we people say
Speaker 1: and do you know what I mean? And like with that,
Speaker 1: I think that's what you're saying, like everyone's walking on
Speaker 1: eight shows because it's like, oh, I don't want to
Speaker 1: say one thing that could possibly rub someone's feathers the
Speaker 1: wrong way. Yeah, even now, like I don't want to
Speaker 1: express my opinions, even though I don't think my opinion
Speaker 1: is really that radical or wrong, but I'm just nervous
Speaker 1: about somebody offending someone and then they, you know, email
Speaker 1: the show and be like, oh my god, I can't
Speaker 1: believe you said that, and it's like, you know, there
Speaker 1: are times where I missed the old days of like
Speaker 1: if you didn't like somebody's opinion, just don't listen to
Speaker 1: what they have to say. That car channel. Do you
Speaker 1: think any of that carries into dating? Uh? Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, But you didn't hear that was that? Do
Speaker 1: we think that any of the landscape that like we're
Speaker 1: faced with in twenty nineteen carries into that How it's
Speaker 1: like changed and shaped the dating culture that we're in? Now,
Speaker 1: what do you mean, like, I think for better? Yeah,
Speaker 1: specifically with the equality between men and women. You don't
Speaker 1: think me example, So I want to hear your I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously the ideas of men and women have changed pretty
Speaker 1: significantly over the past few years. I feel like open
Speaker 1: mindedness is is a lot more of a preached thing nowadays,
Speaker 1: which is great. Um. I guess I don't have a
Speaker 1: specific example to give you, but I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 1: just the way that things have changed, where it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, we have all these movements, and it's great
Speaker 1: to have these movements because it's great to like bring
Speaker 1: um exposure to these topics and these issues that we're
Speaker 1: dealing with, but also it's like sometimes you have to like,
Speaker 1: now you have to consider more things as you're going
Speaker 1: out to date more people, right, Like you have to
Speaker 1: be more considerate and cautious. And do you feel like
Speaker 1: as a man you're more cautious in the in the
Speaker 1: way that you approach a female. Uh, that's a good question. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hear. So there's a comedian, um who has a joke.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm out saying this, but a
Speaker 1: comedian who as a joke saying he basically says how
Speaker 1: since the me Too movement, he will never get on
Speaker 1: top of a girl whenever he goes into bed with her.
Speaker 1: He does he wants to be the submissive one, and
Speaker 1: he will never go on top of her. Conveniently, for me,
Speaker 1: my favorite position is on bottom, so it's like I'm
Speaker 1: always going to be on the bottom anyways, um Tore,
Speaker 1: you said that when Dean said, has the landscape changed
Speaker 1: in the dating world? Has that better or worse? And
Speaker 1: I said, I think it's better because of a lot
Speaker 1: of different reasons, and you were shaking your head, No,
Speaker 1: what why is that? I just think that guys have
Speaker 1: taken more of a passive role on it now that
Speaker 1: they're like I can't figure out what this girl wants
Speaker 1: or what's right or wrong that now I'm just going
Speaker 1: to completely back off. And but then why can't that
Speaker 1: be on the girl to then step forward and take
Speaker 1: a more aggressive role. But I think we have. But
Speaker 1: I think that now it's like enabled the whole dating
Speaker 1: realm where it's like, I mean I get bumbled, was like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm going to be the girl. I'm going to reach
Speaker 1: out to you. But I think that now it's like
Speaker 1: we go to a bar, and I think it's just
Speaker 1: caused like isolation almost besides it being like flu with
Speaker 1: it's more of like guys don't do it, so I'm angry,
Speaker 1: or it's now the girls are doing it and it's
Speaker 1: only going to be on my terms. And I think
Speaker 1: that there just could be more, it could be more
Speaker 1: fluid of I think guys are now I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: sit back and get d M or you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I think it's the technology realm tomb has now.
Speaker 1: I think technology just screwating well now because as a
Speaker 1: guy or a girl, if you see a cute person
Speaker 1: at the bar, you no longer need to go up
Speaker 1: to him at the bar. You can easily just go home,
Speaker 1: find them on Instagram and send them at Is that
Speaker 1: so Josh ended up when we were in Tahoe. He
Speaker 1: got a message from someone because they realized that we
Speaker 1: were together off of my Instagram account. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's just crazy how people can know so much information
Speaker 1: about you. I want to bring it back. Sorry one second,
Speaker 1: just to what Tor just said and why I'm frustrated
Speaker 1: to buy that. It sounds like to me, I've heard
Speaker 1: this before pretty often, especially when it comes to girls.
Speaker 1: They want they want things that are convenient for them,
Speaker 1: in the sense that they want the men to pay
Speaker 1: for dinner, but then they all necessarily I'm just saying
Speaker 1: that they want the general that's the generalized statement. Okay, sure,
Speaker 1: but a girl would want a guy to pay for dinner,
Speaker 1: but then also like not have to, like she wants
Speaker 1: she wants the guy to step up when it's convenient
Speaker 1: for her, like don't hold the door open for me,
Speaker 1: I'm a modern woman. That's fine, but also pay for
Speaker 1: my dinner, you know, like that that type of stuff.
Speaker 1: It can be so frustrating to hear because it's like,
Speaker 1: if you want it, if you want it, at any
Speaker 1: given point, then you have to have it that way
Speaker 1: for the forever sort of thing. Well, I get I
Speaker 1: get your point. I get your point. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: have it like the new way or the old way,
Speaker 1: like there's no one between, because then like the guy
Speaker 1: is always going to lose out. Is that what? That's
Speaker 1: what you're trying to say. I think my point of
Speaker 1: if there's all these dating apps in my head, it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: well it's so much easier now for a guy to
Speaker 1: like reach out to me, or for a guy to
Speaker 1: be a little bit more committed because there's all these
Speaker 1: different opportunities for them to get to that place. You know,
Speaker 1: why can't you reach out to the guy? Oh? I
Speaker 1: do all the time. Well not now that I'm in
Speaker 1: a relationship obviously, but I a lot of If you
Speaker 1: line up all the guys that I dated, most of
Speaker 1: them was because I went after them. To Dean's point,
Speaker 1: Bill Birds, that's a really funny joke where women see
Speaker 1: men's life as a buffet where they go through and
Speaker 1: like I'll take pay for dinner, I'll take some of that,
Speaker 1: pay for the movies. Uh, screw that, you can keep
Speaker 1: that um And she's yeah, it's like I like this,
Speaker 1: I don't like that. I like this, I don't like that,
Speaker 1: and it's kind of messed up. But that's that really
Speaker 1: is the way that it is sometimes with people. Well,
Speaker 1: we had someone on the podcast talking to us about
Speaker 1: how dating now is like um, fast food dating or
Speaker 1: something like if you're if you want to make sure
Speaker 1: you're in like a good and healthy relationship, Well, if
Speaker 1: you're going to go to the grocery store, make sure
Speaker 1: that you're going to pick the best apple out of
Speaker 1: the bunch and not like the one that has the
Speaker 1: most bruises on it. And same thing. Like I remember
Speaker 1: her analogy was so amazing and I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not bringing I'm not making sense right now, but
Speaker 1: it was something to that extent. Does that make sense? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think I'm on the reverse of that with
Speaker 1: with men wanting certain things for women, like we live
Speaker 1: in a how do I phrase this? I think men
Speaker 1: really crave attention from I'm generalizing, but I think there's
Speaker 1: a lot of men and relationships that crave like attention
Speaker 1: and emotion from their female that they that the female
Speaker 1: is more than happy to provide for the man, but
Speaker 1: the man reverse does not showcase the same much. But
Speaker 1: that's love languages. Yeah, So if you're someone that needs affection,
Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily mean that you're going to show your
Speaker 1: love by giving affection. I think within a relationship, i'd
Speaker 1: be willing to say that majority of people need affection,
Speaker 1: And I don't know. Sometimes I think about that within
Speaker 1: my own relationship, because actually is very affectionate towards me,
Speaker 1: and I'm very affectionate back, but certainly not to the
Speaker 1: extent that she is, just because that's her nature. And
Speaker 1: sometimes in my head, I think, um, is that fair?
Speaker 1: Because I love her showing affection towards me, and I
Speaker 1: do it a lot, but not as much as her.
Speaker 1: So should I really try to do as much as her?
Speaker 1: On the head though you've given received different love languages.
Speaker 1: I give physical touch, but I receive acts of service,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's just like, I
Speaker 1: think that's kind of just what that situation is. Maybe yeah,
Speaker 1: or maybe you're maybe just your level of giving isn't
Speaker 1: quite as great as Ashley's is, you know what I
Speaker 1: mean in terms of affection exactly right. But I mean
Speaker 1: I know people who are in relationships and they're constantly
Speaker 1: arguing like, oh, I just want him to, I don't know,
Speaker 1: write me a love letter. But if that's not what
Speaker 1: the person is used to doing and used to showing
Speaker 1: their affection, you can't be mad at them for not
Speaker 1: stepping up to the plate because that's not how they
Speaker 1: show their love. Like I'm not someone that will buy
Speaker 1: someone like elaborate gifts. I don't even buy myself elaborate gifts.
Speaker 1: But if I see something that reminds me of you,
Speaker 1: Like my boyfriend loves diet coke, I'll always be the
Speaker 1: first person whenever we go out to a restaurant, I'll
Speaker 1: be like, I'll have a glass of water and he'll
Speaker 1: have a diet coke. You order drinks for Josh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: even even when he'll have the diet coke, he'll have
Speaker 1: the chicken. Even my one of my good friends exactly
Speaker 1: just like, what's going to know what I don't? I
Speaker 1: do it, No, but I'm doing it because I want
Speaker 1: to be attentive. I'm not doing it till one of
Speaker 1: my good friends is the same way. She's always because
Speaker 1: she is one of those people where she's like you
Speaker 1: never called to ask how my day is going. You
Speaker 1: never like inquire about like this this, or you haven't
Speaker 1: asked about this, like why I'm feeling this way, and
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I'm not that person that can give
Speaker 1: you those things that I will never be that person.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't expect that from me. And if you continue
Speaker 1: to carry that expectation of me doing that, you're continuously
Speaker 1: going to be let down. So does that translate into
Speaker 1: your relationships as well? Um that specific situation maybe, but
Speaker 1: this this one specifically, I'm compartmentalizing it. I'm not giving
Speaker 1: you this part of myself and so you should never
Speaker 1: expect me to give that to you. And when you
Speaker 1: get upset that, it's not that you're not receiving it
Speaker 1: from me. The only person you can really be upset
Speaker 1: with is yourself for expecting that. You know, in friendships
Speaker 1: or relationships, the one thing, the one main reason why
Speaker 1: people get into arguments is expectation. Well, of course, because
Speaker 1: your expectations are not being met. But my question is
Speaker 1: you talk about certain things that you just can't give
Speaker 1: because that's not who you are. But within a relationship,
Speaker 1: should you try to change, Well, this is a friend
Speaker 1: this is a friendship. No, I know, but I'm asking
Speaker 1: within a relationship said, there's obviously times where you're significant
Speaker 1: other will say hey, I need this from you, and
Speaker 1: you're like, well, that's just not who I am. But
Speaker 1: I think there has to be a balance, right, because
Speaker 1: there has to be a part of you. You can't
Speaker 1: just tell your significant other well, this is who I
Speaker 1: am and I can't change anything. Oh no, then you
Speaker 1: don't want to be with that person. If there's no
Speaker 1: room or if there's no room, there has to be
Speaker 1: some push and pull. Yeah, that's what I've been arking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I go back and forth on this. Actually sometimes because
Speaker 1: I agree with you. It's kind of selfish for you
Speaker 1: to be like, this is who I am. Taking or
Speaker 1: leave it sort of thing, right, But on the flip side,
Speaker 1: it's like, that's who you are. You like you're like
Speaker 1: I feel like you're someone who do you feel like
Speaker 1: you're someone who's very black and black or black and white?
Speaker 1: Because I feel like you're very black and white. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Actually, like you you have to learn how
Speaker 1: to be a little bit more fluid and being like
Speaker 1: who's lived in the gray areas? Vanessa? Oh yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to learn. I'm trying to learn to gray I just, oh,
Speaker 1: you are the ground living in the gray areas. Yes,
Speaker 1: but in terms of like being hard and this is
Speaker 1: what I think and this is what I believe, and
Speaker 1: it's like you can't ship away at changing your mind. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I wanted to add something else, but I
Speaker 1: can't remember what it was. I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: But we need to take a break. I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: let's let's take a quick break and then we can
Speaker 1: continue to jump into it. We still haven't really talked
Speaker 1: about your wedding too much. I know we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about the wedding. And I found the story about Ryan
Speaker 1: Gosling Rachel McAdams that I will read very breathe this
Speaker 1: and then we'll jump into a break. Read it now
Speaker 1: before the break. Okay. So there was some heavy fighting
Speaker 1: apparently between Gosling and McAdams on the set of The Notebook,
Speaker 1: which the director Nick has a vets Uh talks about
Speaker 1: and he says that actually helped the role both of
Speaker 1: them in the roles. To your point, and he says,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm not this is a quote from the director
Speaker 1: may I'm not supposed to tell this story, but they
Speaker 1: were really not getting along one day on set really not.
Speaker 1: And Ryan came to me and there's a hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty people standing in the big scene and he says,
Speaker 1: come here, and he's doing a scene with Rachel and
Speaker 1: he says, would you take her out of here? And
Speaker 1: bringing another actress to read off camera with me? I
Speaker 1: said what he says, I can't. I can't do it
Speaker 1: with her. I'm just not getting anything from this. And
Speaker 1: then they went into the room they talked to throw
Speaker 1: and bought and then and then they started dating. Uh.
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, sometimes hate breeds to love. It's a
Speaker 1: weird It's it's sometimes you can get those wires crossed
Speaker 1: and you can kind of confuse it to which just
Speaker 1: means you care about the person very deeply. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: guess all right, Well, we're gonna take a quick break
Speaker 1: and then jump into some more start talking about wedding talk.
Speaker 1: I suppose, well, jared'sney that we're talking about rom coms
Speaker 1: because it wasn't Ashley's bridal shower a rom com theme. Yes,
Speaker 1: it was, Like I said, the hashtag was when Jared
Speaker 1: met Ashley, which is a play off of When Harry
Speaker 1: met Sally. I don't know why I'm saying it that way,
Speaker 1: and they play a movie, the rom com movies in
Speaker 1: the background, like Ashley's favorite rom com is um The
Speaker 1: Wedding Planner with Jlo Oh my god, I love that movie.
Speaker 1: Loves that was Jalo as an actress. Amazing good. No,
Speaker 1: she's really good. She's good, she's good. She was also
Speaker 1: in another movie. Um, don't you ever see that movie? Enough? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so she also plays really well and she was great enough.
Speaker 1: She was great in Selena. Um, what else has she
Speaker 1: been in? Why am I made in Manhattan? Made Manhattan? Manhattan? Manhattan? Okay,
Speaker 1: So isn't it funny how she pronounced it, Say it again,
Speaker 1: Manhattan and I'm like, Manhattan, there's no there, Okay. So
Speaker 1: it was rom company. Yeah, what else? There was just
Speaker 1: like tons of rom com stuff there because just Ashley
Speaker 1: and I are big movie buffs and she loves romantic comedies.
Speaker 1: So that was the whole scene. You have a groom shower, guys,
Speaker 1: don't do that shower now. I had like a small
Speaker 1: bachelor party with my Rhode Island friends Dean. You couldn't
Speaker 1: fly out there. That's the issue, because I have I
Speaker 1: have has been in l A, I have one in Vancouver,
Speaker 1: one of Virginia. And then so the bachelor and basketball
Speaker 1: party already happened. Yeah it was. It wasn't really a
Speaker 1: bad I mean I just went to a casino, um,
Speaker 1: because actually went to Vegas or No, she went to
Speaker 1: the New Kids on the Block Conco Oh that's it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were on a bus. Yeah. And then just some
Speaker 1: of my friends and family in Rhode Island went to
Speaker 1: a casino fox Woods Casino down south and did bowling.
Speaker 1: And then it was that on the same no, no,
Speaker 1: no, no no, it's two different days. No, she went to
Speaker 1: go see New Kids in the Block, which was awesome.
Speaker 1: She took they took a party bus from l A.
Speaker 1: So much fun. Yeah, I was pretty good. And to Annaheim,
Speaker 1: I think they were playing and um, it's kind of
Speaker 1: weird to say, but we're we're kind of friends with
Speaker 1: Donnie Wahlberg and Jennie McCarthy. Really, yeah, your friends as
Speaker 1: so many artists. Yeah, it's it's honestly, Ashley Ashley just
Speaker 1: well not did she ever but did she ever befriend
Speaker 1: the handsome brothers she's friends? Well she knows, um which
Speaker 1: one Isaac? Yeah, I think it's really sweet. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: she knows Isaac Um. But with the New Kids in
Speaker 1: the Block concert, they got to go backstage and hang
Speaker 1: out with Donnie. And then we went to go see
Speaker 1: New Kids in Boston, which was one of the greatest
Speaker 1: shows in my life because there are New Kids on
Speaker 1: the Block is the Boston band. They played in Boston,
Speaker 1: and they just catered to the Boston fans. Like he
Speaker 1: came out in a full Red Sox uniform and like
Speaker 1: they played shipping up to Boston while they were putting
Speaker 1: all the Boston sports logos up there, and it was
Speaker 1: and it was like this is when you said recently, right,
Speaker 1: this is the one just that recently right, Yeah, gets
Speaker 1: into his little world. Oh. It was just the coolest
Speaker 1: thing because you know it was anyway, um, but what's
Speaker 1: your question? Right, Yeah, this is so that was her
Speaker 1: like bachelor party. So she had a party us up there,
Speaker 1: and her bachelor party sounded a little Yeah. I mean
Speaker 1: she got to hang out Donnie Wolberg. It's way cooler
Speaker 1: than mine. I mean I had fun. We went golfing.
Speaker 1: I love golfing, so my mine was a blast to Yeah,
Speaker 1: because your wedding is is pretty soon, pretty soon, which
Speaker 1: is really crazy. To think about because it just there's
Speaker 1: been so much planning involved that had it. It's become
Speaker 1: more and more stressful as time goes on, because it
Speaker 1: was so much fun when we first were wedding planning,
Speaker 1: as you know, because our wedding planner, his name is
Speaker 1: Truy Williams. He's the best and he's just a really
Speaker 1: close friend. And we're getting married in Rhode Island, so
Speaker 1: we flew out to Rhode Island. We're doing venue shopping,
Speaker 1: which was really um close to my heart because Rhode
Speaker 1: Island is my home and I think I've always envisioned
Speaker 1: getting married there and so be able to you know,
Speaker 1: go home, be with my family and then also look
Speaker 1: for places that we're gonna get married and then pick
Speaker 1: the place and then do like food tasting was so
Speaker 1: much fun because we had we had three caters, all
Speaker 1: were awesome, but we had to choose one obviously, and
Speaker 1: it was like having dinner with your family three different times.
Speaker 1: Her parents flew in for it, and my parents obviously
Speaker 1: on Rhode Island, so it was like and and they
Speaker 1: wint and dine you because you know, they want to
Speaker 1: be your cater and so it was cool because I
Speaker 1: think for the three of us, we can all. Um,
Speaker 1: we're pretty lucky that a lot of times we get
Speaker 1: treated very well wherever we go. Um. And so it's
Speaker 1: really nice to share that experience with my parents and
Speaker 1: her parents to um, you know, give him a taste
Speaker 1: of like and that's like extra bonding, like, hey, what
Speaker 1: do you need? You want another last champagne? Whatever you need,
Speaker 1: we got and so that was really cool. Um. So
Speaker 1: any last minute details that you guys are still ironing out, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been There's there's one hiccup. There's a couple of
Speaker 1: hiccups within any wedding. They'll all get solved. But it's
Speaker 1: just it's you know, the clock is taking at this
Speaker 1: point and that's become the most stressful thing God, bless you,
Speaker 1: bless you, is that I'm nervous I won't be done
Speaker 1: in time for the wedding, which it will be, but
Speaker 1: it's just all the and you know, and now we
Speaker 1: have to pay for things, and like the quotes come
Speaker 1: in and I mean, you know, people can give money
Speaker 1: at weddings. So when we get married in Canada, and
Speaker 1: I guess maybe just in our culture, we don't expect
Speaker 1: physical gifts. We give money to help pay off the wedding. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously that's ideal. I would never ask for that.
Speaker 1: Whatever people want to give us is what they give us.
Speaker 1: They don't have to give us anything. The most important
Speaker 1: thing for us is that everybody is there, because we
Speaker 1: also know that whoever's not in Rhode Island is a
Speaker 1: little stress filled to try to get there. How far
Speaker 1: is of a flight is it from from l A?
Speaker 1: It's well to Rhode Islands, not bad. It's about a
Speaker 1: little less than five hours, like four hours, and yeah,
Speaker 1: you can fly into Boston and then it's about an
Speaker 1: hour drive south. Why did I do that? Find like
Speaker 1: l A to Atlanta Atlanta Providence because Providence is like
Speaker 1: so Boston to the venues about like an hour and
Speaker 1: a half um, and then Providence to the venue is
Speaker 1: like a half hour, so it's a way shorter drive.
Speaker 1: Um but um but yeah, on the way back it
Speaker 1: sucks because it's like the jet stream which still boggles
Speaker 1: my mind down a little bit, slows you down. So
Speaker 1: it's about five and a half hour flight. Adds on
Speaker 1: about forty five minutes, which is a long time when
Speaker 1: you're up in the air. Um but We're very excited.
Speaker 1: I'm just really excited for the week of to come.
Speaker 1: I want to get there a few days early because
Speaker 1: I really want to try to enjoy that time and
Speaker 1: like just go golfing, you know, and and hang out
Speaker 1: and enjoy that time before like you know, everything starts
Speaker 1: vamping up the weekend of. Do you like vow is
Speaker 1: prepared already and everything. No, I gotta really get on that.
Speaker 1: And apparently I need to get actually a gift, that's
Speaker 1: the thing. Yeah, Yeah, she's I don't know if she
Speaker 1: already got me one, but she but she's expected. She's like,
Speaker 1: you can get us something that she can wear the
Speaker 1: day of the wedding. Where where? Yeah, like maybe a
Speaker 1: piece of jewelry, right, that could be nice. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're looking at the wrong guy, I think I
Speaker 1: give it to her after the wedding though. Isn't that
Speaker 1: kind of customary? I don't know. Apparently there's also a
Speaker 1: tradition that you might hurt each other before the wedding. No,
Speaker 1: we're not going to do that. Like then after the
Speaker 1: rehearsal dinner, will go out separ raids for the night
Speaker 1: of and then I'll see her at the wedding, which
Speaker 1: I think is kind of cute because I'd like to
Speaker 1: not see her the day of. I'd like to have
Speaker 1: it be a little different. Um, and so would she. Um.
Speaker 1: We're actually debating staying in separate rooms like the night before, no,
Speaker 1: like a couple of nights before, to really kind of
Speaker 1: build the anticipation nice. Yeah, just to really make it
Speaker 1: a little different, you know, to really look forward to
Speaker 1: that wedding night, even though we'll definitely just pass out.
Speaker 1: That's what I've been hearing that everybody just goes to
Speaker 1: the room and pass out. Um. But also there's a
Speaker 1: tradition that you have to something blue, something something, something new,
Speaker 1: something blue. So this is where Ashley is supposed to wear,
Speaker 1: like something borrowed, something that she can have from her mom. Yeah, blue,
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I just found this out as well.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of all these things. Yeah, and something new,
Speaker 1: well knew could be her dress, something borrowed could be
Speaker 1: like a piece of jewelry from her mom, and then
Speaker 1: something blue can be on her the garter belt she
Speaker 1: was talking about yet a garter belt or like you know, underwear.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I guess, I guess Catholic. Um it
Speaker 1: it isn't a church though is a church, um. But
Speaker 1: they were very lenient UM. And I like to describe
Speaker 1: Ashley and I as spiritual um with um you know, uh,
Speaker 1: some thoughts about religion. UM, I would say which way
Speaker 1: you both want to get married in a church? That
Speaker 1: was the one thing where we, I want to say,
Speaker 1: disagreed because I was very open to either. I think
Speaker 1: seeing the venue that we got there is a beautiful
Speaker 1: outdoor area UM that I was thinking would be really nice.
Speaker 1: But you know Rhode Island, it can rain, so I
Speaker 1: think it's really yeah, so we wanted to make sure
Speaker 1: everything was indoors. God forbid if it rains, we don't
Speaker 1: have a plan. B you know everything that half rain, right,
Speaker 1: it almost be romantic, Yeah, it would be romantic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it has to redo all of our makeup and
Speaker 1: all of her hair. But it's such a beautiful place.
Speaker 1: It turned like, especially that where we're going to drive
Speaker 1: to is really pretty and if the sun is out,
Speaker 1: it's going to be really nice. And we may have
Speaker 1: you know, some trolleys to pick you guys up in.
Speaker 1: Uh no not horse carriages were against that. Come onding
Speaker 1: you of all people horses. I ran out the bulls.
Speaker 1: You just sounded like a horse, right there. Can you
Speaker 1: do that again? Holy crap, that's pretty good unintentional you
Speaker 1: know what you were in your past life. Um but
Speaker 1: uh but yeah, it's kind of weird because I think
Speaker 1: we talked about the wedding a lot. To be fair,
Speaker 1: we're questioned about it a lot. But on the other
Speaker 1: end of that, you only get married once. Knock on wood. Um,
Speaker 1: and uh so I'm gonna talk about it as much
Speaker 1: as possible. I was thinking about that because I wanted
Speaker 1: to post something on Instagram about the wedding, and I
Speaker 1: was like, ah, people are probably already, you know, they
Speaker 1: just they just wanted to be here. They just want
Speaker 1: to see us get married now at this point, and
Speaker 1: I was like, what the hell am I talking about?
Speaker 1: I get married once in my life? Yeah, I'm going
Speaker 1: to post about to h It is pretty crazy when
Speaker 1: I think about it, everything that we've gone through, the
Speaker 1: up and downs, and and it's funny now because a
Speaker 1: lot of my friends, because Ashley has been so close
Speaker 1: to my life for so long now, a lot of
Speaker 1: my friends are sending me pictures of like, dude, this
Speaker 1: was three years ago. And it's like me and Ashley
Speaker 1: had a couch and we're sitting on opposite end of
Speaker 1: the couch and there was a picture with my buddy Kenny,
Speaker 1: who's in the rooms party send and it's he was like,
Speaker 1: this is a picture from three years ago when Ashley
Speaker 1: was in town and you guys were like fighting on
Speaker 1: the couch about something, and like I had my hat
Speaker 1: over my head and actually had her head down and
Speaker 1: he was thinking like at that point, like you guys
Speaker 1: are already a married couple and you just don't realize
Speaker 1: it yet. Um So, it's really funny to think about
Speaker 1: everything that actually and I have been through and it
Speaker 1: feels like a lifetime ago. Do you think anything's gonna
Speaker 1: change post marriage now? I I mean, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I've heard different viewpoints of you know, things change after
Speaker 1: you get married or or no, it's exactly the same.
Speaker 1: I think the big thing I hear from a lot
Speaker 1: of people is when you move in together, that changes
Speaker 1: a lot. Already live together for over a year now,
Speaker 1: and um so I don't see foreseeing that much changing.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna wear a wedding band? Oh? Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1: Um so that can own up to you know, traditional
Speaker 1: like grass or whatever color of gold. Yeah. Um, so
Speaker 1: I went into Neil Lane and picked out a ring.
Speaker 1: Uh and Ashley got her wedding band. Were both looking
Speaker 1: at it. So it was a pretty cool moment. Can
Speaker 1: you can you tell us what kind of bandard is?
Speaker 1: That's just like something you want. I have no idea
Speaker 1: what type of band it is. It's going to be silver?
Speaker 1: Yours mine? Is it plane? Yeah? It's pretty plain. Diamonds
Speaker 1: on it, No diamonds on it. Now. I saw this
Speaker 1: one guy who had a wedding ban. It was all diamonds.
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. I saw men just war basically just
Speaker 1: a circle with nothing. It's just more of like a symbolism.
Speaker 1: What do you think when people get tattoos too? What
Speaker 1: do you think of when guys were like the black ones?
Speaker 1: I like the black one? Do you? Ashley's doesn't? I
Speaker 1: don't like. I don't know if I like it. I
Speaker 1: think it's like it's too try hard to be edgy?
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah? Is it a wedding band? Is it
Speaker 1: not a wedding ban? Title of my autobiography Dan try
Speaker 1: Hard to Be too, try hard to be? I like
Speaker 1: the traditional silver. I think that's a good way to go.
Speaker 1: Either the silver like the gold or brass color I
Speaker 1: think are the cool ones. Yeah, I think it was copper,
Speaker 1: Kappa or what other? What other? Would you guys get
Speaker 1: tattoos of each other's initials? Like supermanent? Yeah, you never
Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen. Really, the marriage is in permanent. Um,
Speaker 1: that's a joke. It's definitely. I don't know. See, the
Speaker 1: thing is, I was talking to Dean about this the
Speaker 1: other day. I don't have a tattoo now. Dean said
Speaker 1: he'd be willing, so we're both Dean said that he'd
Speaker 1: be willing to get a tattoo with me the night
Speaker 1: before the wedding. Would that'd be a gift. That could
Speaker 1: be a gift. We would get matching tattoos. It would
Speaker 1: both be a plus J and so Dean would have
Speaker 1: an A plus J tattoo on him. I'm very glad
Speaker 1: to do that. That would be really cute. Where would
Speaker 1: you get it? Probably my butt cheek? Yeah, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: want it anywhere else. No, that's cute, it's adorable. Unless
Speaker 1: I mean, I will get it wherever Jared wants me
Speaker 1: to get it. I guess let's just say that right
Speaker 1: on your forehead within the torso and the waist down anyway, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's fair. Um. But yeah, so that's kind of like
Speaker 1: the story of wedding planning right now and everything goes
Speaker 1: into it and uh, yeah, it's been fun, it's been stressful. Um,
Speaker 1: But I think both Ashley and I are really trying
Speaker 1: to just like step back and enjoy them because I
Speaker 1: don't want to overlook what's about to happen. And I
Speaker 1: think after the fact that you're gonna look, BA can
Speaker 1: be like, wow, that off flew by. You know, it's
Speaker 1: already flying by, it's already almost August. I remember when
Speaker 1: my sister got married also in August. It was a
Speaker 1: really really hot day, and the day after her wedding,
Speaker 1: she's like, I don't know why I stressed out over
Speaker 1: the smaller d and we spoke about this before. She
Speaker 1: she's like, if I can do this all over again,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't stressed out about the small details because then
Speaker 1: that takes over and then you're not in the moment
Speaker 1: and you're not present and you're not absorbing everything that's
Speaker 1: happening around you. So yeah, like you said, just try
Speaker 1: to be in the moment. Totally. I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: going to be a little bit of a jerk on
Speaker 1: my wedding day. Not a stress, no, not a stress,
Speaker 1: not intentionally, but to make sure that Ashley and I
Speaker 1: enjoy the day and enjoy the moment, because we just
Speaker 1: want to make sure that that happens. And so in
Speaker 1: order to make sure that happens, I think I'm going
Speaker 1: to make my priority Ashley and of course, but that's
Speaker 1: like the one day you should be selfish. But there's
Speaker 1: people who have told me that the wedding is actually
Speaker 1: about your guests. Okay, well that was another thing I
Speaker 1: want to bring up. So in our culture, would your
Speaker 1: guests our guests are were we expect the bride and
Speaker 1: the groom to come around to the table and greet everybody.
Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna do that, okay, because that's
Speaker 1: just I'm consuming and I want to say hi to everybody.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, we've put so much effort
Speaker 1: into this one. I want to make sure that we
Speaker 1: enjoy it. And if that means that I'm not going
Speaker 1: to take time to go around to every table and
Speaker 1: shake hands like I'm running for office, I might do that.
Speaker 1: I don't know I agree with that, but I also
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Speaker 1: are back with the one and only Coach Crystal Randown
Speaker 1: Crystal Random. How does that? I'm actually not switching my
Speaker 1: last name. I'm gonna go by just coach Crystal Crystal Nelson. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm not right now. And that's just because I just
Speaker 1: don't feel the need to change my name, because I mean,
Speaker 1: I am Crystal Nielsen and I love who I am.
Speaker 1: And um, I think that perhaps when we have children,
Speaker 1: I might hyphenate for sure their names I like, but
Speaker 1: I just don't feel like I need to change. So
Speaker 1: they're going to take your last name and Chris's last
Speaker 1: name probably and you guys just smush them together like
Speaker 1: Neil done or something like that. Well, it's funny because
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've had a lot of questions about that.
Speaker 1: They're like, are you gonna switch your name or not?
Speaker 1: I've heard it from both sides. I'm curious, what are
Speaker 1: your thoughts. Does a woman need to change her name
Speaker 1: or should she? Because that goes like we had this
Speaker 1: discussion earlier on UM in Quebec. It was obviously you
Speaker 1: had to at a certain point. Now you don't have
Speaker 1: to anymore. My my parents are divorced, and my mom
Speaker 1: had to pay for her now her maiden name to
Speaker 1: take it back, to take it back. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, I I think for me, I love my
Speaker 1: last name. I don't think I will necessarily change my
Speaker 1: last name. But if I kids with my boyfriend now
Speaker 1: and his last name is Wolf, definitely want I want
Speaker 1: to hype the same thing I want to hype in
Speaker 1: a Grimaldi Wolf. I think I'm gonna I'm gonna play
Speaker 1: Devil's advocate here as I usually do in my school.
Speaker 1: He's wearing a shirt this is Angels. In my school.
Speaker 1: I went to a small town, not many kids. My
Speaker 1: high school had like two kids in it right in
Speaker 1: the entire school. There was one kid. His name was
Speaker 1: Cole Green Smith Cole Green hyphen Smith. And that kid
Speaker 1: got a lot of heat because he was the only
Speaker 1: kid in the entire school with a hyphenated last name.
Speaker 1: And so maybe maybe it's just me now who because
Speaker 1: do you not remember? I feel like I'm on I'm
Speaker 1: on Dean's page here. Not that anybody should change their
Speaker 1: last name, they don't have to, but yeah, kids are
Speaker 1: ruthless anything. And maybe maybe it's just me because I
Speaker 1: have this experience as a kid where it's like we like,
Speaker 1: he kind of got a lot of heat for it.
Speaker 1: So now I'm just like, now he's probably the cool
Speaker 1: kid because not many people have a hyphenated last name.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I don't. I haven't talked to him
Speaker 1: in years, but I'm just saying, maybe take that into consideration.
Speaker 1: I want to say there's a little more back to
Speaker 1: backstory to it, and it's that Chris has expressed to
Speaker 1: me multiple times that he's thought about changing his last
Speaker 1: name because on his mother's side, matt Arni is the
Speaker 1: name and because he has sisters like that name is
Speaker 1: going to die out, and so he's thought about changing
Speaker 1: his last name from Randoon to match Roni to pass
Speaker 1: on like the legacy of the name for his grandfather
Speaker 1: that he loves very very much. So because of that,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I just I can't switch to rand don't.
Speaker 1: If you're going to switch to mat, I can't. So
Speaker 1: that's like another major reason why I'm just sticking with
Speaker 1: you know, So he's going to make that decision if
Speaker 1: and when you guys start trying for kids. I think
Speaker 1: it'll be in the future, and a lot of that
Speaker 1: is I mean, Randon comes from his father, and he
Speaker 1: doesn't have a relationship with his father, and so that's
Speaker 1: like a debate that he's kind of working through. See
Speaker 1: he's thought about He's like Chris Nielsen, that's a yeah,
Speaker 1: it sounds like a movie star starring star Lord because
Speaker 1: I'm kind of the same way as Chris, where it's
Speaker 1: like I don't really like my last name. My father
Speaker 1: and I have like a kind of a broken relationship
Speaker 1: as well, So I'm like, oh, just take my wife's
Speaker 1: last name, you know what I mean, you would do that.
Speaker 1: I would be open to it. Yeah, as long as
Speaker 1: it's something cool like Nielsen. You guys think that's cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because growing up, I was like, I thought it was
Speaker 1: just mediocre. I feel like everyone's else Nielsen. I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's Nielsen. I'm before you bro. Yeah, get it together
Speaker 1: in the Okay, Well, so Jared obviously has a wedding
Speaker 1: coming up. Yes, that's so exciting. Ad absolutely. Okay. So
Speaker 1: Chris and I just celebrated our one month anniversary. Congratulations.
Speaker 1: We are about to book our flight to your wedding
Speaker 1: as soon as I get back tonight, and I was
Speaker 1: strolling through some advice having gone through this recently, that
Speaker 1: is really critical that I want to make sure that
Speaker 1: I can help my brother messister out to have the
Speaker 1: most stress free experience. We were talking earlier, Jared, and
Speaker 1: you were saying that you're going to Rhode Island, so
Speaker 1: it's going to be a time change. So you're saying
Speaker 1: you're going out their few days early, right just to
Speaker 1: acclimate too, to acclimate and make sure that we're not rushed,
Speaker 1: because I really want to try to spend as much
Speaker 1: time there as possible before the wedding, so it doesn't
Speaker 1: just I don't fly in the day before, it just
Speaker 1: flies by. One thing I would recommend now, since you're
Speaker 1: a few weeks out, is setting your alarm to wake
Speaker 1: up a little bit earlier. That's smart every week, so
Speaker 1: that because you're gonna be three hours ahead, you're not
Speaker 1: going to wake up so late in the afternoon, and
Speaker 1: you really have as much time as possible. It's good advice.
Speaker 1: Get my brain set. Teachers do that. My friends who
Speaker 1: are teachers, they obviously they have all summer off, so
Speaker 1: they sleep in a week before they have to go
Speaker 1: back to school. They start setting their alarms earlier, earlier,
Speaker 1: so they're prepared with first so it's not like a
Speaker 1: sudden shock. And I'm so jet lacks. One of my
Speaker 1: best tip I have for both of you guys, as
Speaker 1: you need to allocate your maid of honor and your
Speaker 1: best man as the point of contact for all friends
Speaker 1: and family to spress Eddie like inventing too and not
Speaker 1: come to you. That needs to be set really really
Speaker 1: clear so that you guys have boundaries where you got
Speaker 1: to just focus on the two of you and you
Speaker 1: have like your your people handling everyone else. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: we're good with that because our wedding planner is going
Speaker 1: to probably deal with a lot of that as well,
Speaker 1: and he has been dealing a lot with that and
Speaker 1: everyone has his information. Yeah. Oh yeah, because my best
Speaker 1: man is my dad, and my dad is just you know,
Speaker 1: he's a dad. He gets very stressed and so son's
Speaker 1: getting married. Everybody needs to calm down. Not issue, but
Speaker 1: the whole texting I was talking to you about. It's
Speaker 1: like he's calling me every day talking about it like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's stressing. And my sister would be like, why
Speaker 1: are you asking me? Actually, I mean I was going
Speaker 1: to ask the lorn as your maid of honor? Yeah, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: who's your best man? Your deaths so cute? Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: I asked him that Christmas dinner. Um, that is funny
Speaker 1: to just imagine Ashley's sister and your father like they're
Speaker 1: going to watch right. But I was just saying for crystals.
Speaker 1: Thing like handling like everyone at all. Okay, so maybe
Speaker 1: someone else, like maybe it's the planner. But I will
Speaker 1: say that was the most stressful thing for Chris and
Speaker 1: I like the most was that everyone came to us
Speaker 1: to express like their frustrations and what they were stressed
Speaker 1: out about, and a lot of it was out of
Speaker 1: my control because it was through Yes, what frustrations were
Speaker 1: presented to you before the wedding travel well, because it
Speaker 1: was like for the show, so it was like really
Speaker 1: kind of last minute, like they didn't have their air
Speaker 1: for until like ten days before like they left, so
Speaker 1: everyone was really stressed out about that and dresses and
Speaker 1: food and just so many small things. And to be
Speaker 1: the person just receiving all the frustrations, it really stressed
Speaker 1: me out because I couldn't do anything about it. So
Speaker 1: I would just really and my maid of honor is amazing,
Speaker 1: but very neurotic, very stressful. Did the date of your
Speaker 1: wedding change last second? I didn't change last second, but
Speaker 1: we didn't have a definitive date until maybe like a
Speaker 1: week before. Like they're like, it's like ninety nine percent,
Speaker 1: but keep it open, and we're like, what I think
Speaker 1: I can talk about this. I don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: I'll get in trouble for this. But I remember being
Speaker 1: at Paradise this year and one of your friends who
Speaker 1: you who you are close with, kept saying their wedding
Speaker 1: is on this day, but this day came and passed,
Speaker 1: and now, like, what's going on? I don't I'm so confused.
Speaker 1: And it ended up being like two days after that
Speaker 1: or the day after that or something like that because
Speaker 1: you sent him to save the date, right, and then
Speaker 1: it just ended up being like a day after and
Speaker 1: so like everyone's expecting you guys to get married on
Speaker 1: this certain day. Yeah, that is confusing. As a guess
Speaker 1: if you're not you don't know anything that's happening, right,
Speaker 1: especially when we sent out to save the dates. Um,
Speaker 1: it was a correct date, I think, just in Paradise
Speaker 1: there's like, you don't know what day or a year
Speaker 1: it is, because there's so much that goes on in
Speaker 1: each day. So so it stayed that before we go
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask Dean a question because we're talking
Speaker 1: about weddings here, and I don't know if it was
Speaker 1: the same thing with you, But when we first started
Speaker 1: planning a wedding, I think both Ashley and I had
Speaker 1: this um moment we both thought should we do this?
Speaker 1: Is planning wedding something we should be doing? Because once
Speaker 1: you start looking at money and figures and all this
Speaker 1: stuff and how much stress comes with planning a wedding,
Speaker 1: I think the question is just naturally asked, should we
Speaker 1: be doing this or is this some sort of tradition
Speaker 1: that maybe we should start moving away from? And I know,
Speaker 1: Dean you have some thoughts about that, and I'm curious
Speaker 1: I thoughts too, but I want you go to first.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just I'm I'm anti getting married for
Speaker 1: the fact that everyone before est has gotten married, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like, just because people have
Speaker 1: done it since you know, the year two thousand BC
Speaker 1: or whatever, that we feel like we should be doing
Speaker 1: the same thing too. I get it, but there's just
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that's like it's like a lot
Speaker 1: of these are like outdated ideas that I don't necessarily
Speaker 1: agree with. So I think what I in an ideal world, like,
Speaker 1: at least the way that I've viewed now is I
Speaker 1: think I would have a wedding ceremony, but I don't
Speaker 1: know that if I would, if I would go to
Speaker 1: the length of like having anything initially done, like all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Crystal and I were talking about
Speaker 1: this like yesterday, Um, I said that because of my
Speaker 1: my sister and I've been to so many weddings and
Speaker 1: I know what I know what it's involved, I know
Speaker 1: what in what you need to do, and it's really stressful.
Speaker 1: So I have this idea where I'm like, well, I
Speaker 1: do want to get married. I don't want to have kids.
Speaker 1: I would love to just invite people over for dinner
Speaker 1: one night and they have no idea why they're coming over,
Speaker 1: like oh, we're having like a dinner at our in
Speaker 1: our backyard or whatever, and it's like, well, we're getting
Speaker 1: married today. Because that is also the stress for the
Speaker 1: it's stressful for guests, you know, like what dress am
Speaker 1: I going to wear? I have to put makeup on.
Speaker 1: I have to find this, I have to find that.
Speaker 1: So that would be something that would be so not traditional,
Speaker 1: um and so out of the ordinary for my family.
Speaker 1: Do you ever you ever hear that as zeasons are
Speaker 1: a bit where he goes, the first guy who ever
Speaker 1: thought of marriage must have been real weird. He goes,
Speaker 1: I love you so much. I want to get the
Speaker 1: government involved. It's like, well, and like there are It's
Speaker 1: funny actually because when Bachelorette came out and they published
Speaker 1: our pro files with like the ten questions and answers,
Speaker 1: one of the questions that they asked me was what
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on marriage? And I had a pretty
Speaker 1: controversial answer. I said, I think marriage is institutionalized cham
Speaker 1: derived from like religious and practical beliefs, because it kind
Speaker 1: of is like if you look back at marriage, it
Speaker 1: was I think it started out as and correct me
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, if anyone knows this, but I think
Speaker 1: it started out as to farm families that wanted to
Speaker 1: combine their land. And so what they did was they
Speaker 1: had one son married with one daughter, and then they
Speaker 1: basically got all of their land and and it's just
Speaker 1: like that's how they grew their empire, and that's that's
Speaker 1: no longer a thing anymore. You know. Well some of
Speaker 1: its business tax purposes, yeah, I mean you can, yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's that's an appeal of that too. Well, you
Speaker 1: get like tax breaks, tax breaks, and then like once
Speaker 1: you have children too, it's like you want your child
Speaker 1: to be what so this whole spouse thag Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you are in Canada, so I don't know, they might
Speaker 1: not apply to us. I don't know. There's just a
Speaker 1: lot of things that are wrong. I do want to
Speaker 1: say that I actually never thought I would get married
Speaker 1: because I had very similar beliefs to you, Deane. I
Speaker 1: just felt that if I'm committed to a person, I
Speaker 1: don't need to be the paper that that shows it. Um.
Speaker 1: But like when I met Chris, and like throughout the
Speaker 1: journey of our relationship, I really found someone that like
Speaker 1: I wanted to commit to and I wanted to do
Speaker 1: in a very public way where he just was my person.
Speaker 1: And it's like because of our relationship, I grew to trust,
Speaker 1: I grew to love myself more through loving him, I
Speaker 1: really discover a lot about myself. And I know, having
Speaker 1: been married one month now, our relationship has transformed since
Speaker 1: being married, and I think a lot from Chris. He's
Speaker 1: actually been so much more vulnerable and open with me
Speaker 1: and both of us, if you're familiar, we both grew
Speaker 1: up without our fathers, and so we didn't have that
Speaker 1: trust and that like found that solid foundation, that like
Speaker 1: of stability, and now that we are legally that to
Speaker 1: each other, it's actually really beautiful because we finally feel
Speaker 1: like we have this family that we choose to be together.
Speaker 1: And I think there's definitely a lot of there's obviously
Speaker 1: there's more good things than bad things, right, but like
Speaker 1: as a eternal skeptic as I am, I always try
Speaker 1: to find like the negatives of things. I'm a skeptic too,
Speaker 1: I get you. I think I was asking more to
Speaker 1: about the idea of having a big wedding, not only
Speaker 1: just marriage, about you know, you took two people becoming one,
Speaker 1: but the idea of planning this wedding. Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: think at both Ashley and I were having a lot
Speaker 1: of doubts when we first started doing it, because we
Speaker 1: were coming, you know, to a moment thinking do we
Speaker 1: want to spend as much money on a wedding? You know,
Speaker 1: we can put it down, people in the house, so
Speaker 1: on and so forth, and speaking to her parents UM
Speaker 1: about everything, because her parents have been great throughout this
Speaker 1: entire process and and they wanted to help UM a lot,
Speaker 1: and they they wanted this wedding as you know, as
Speaker 1: much as we did, because I think I've always envisioned
Speaker 1: getting married and having you know, the people that I
Speaker 1: love most there and a celebratory thing. And I like
Speaker 1: getting dressed up. I like the idea of putting a
Speaker 1: tux on and having you know, our our guests were
Speaker 1: gowns and things of that nature and kind of you know,
Speaker 1: having that UM a night where it's it's it's different, right, UM.
Speaker 1: But that costs money, and so I think it's just
Speaker 1: I go back and forth, especially now seeing everything come together,
Speaker 1: and it's wonderful and I'm more excited for the wedding
Speaker 1: than anybody. But I think seeing a lot of the
Speaker 1: figures and numbers that are being thrown out, it's like,
Speaker 1: was it was it worth it? And I think at
Speaker 1: the end of the day it will be. But to
Speaker 1: not have any type of down in the back of
Speaker 1: your head saying, man, should we have done something different
Speaker 1: with this money? Of course, you're gonna have that thought.
Speaker 1: I think for me specifically as it pertains to the
Speaker 1: ceremony itself, it would be like, if my wife or
Speaker 1: prospective life wants to have one, we'll have one. If
Speaker 1: she doesn't care, then probably want Can I ask you
Speaker 1: feel because you're an Ash's relationship is so highlighted and
Speaker 1: so public that there's a pressure to perform for the
Speaker 1: wedding because so many eyes are watching. Now that we
Speaker 1: decided to plan a wedding, yes, beforehand, no, because it
Speaker 1: was our choice, would ever we wanted to do, But
Speaker 1: now that it is, you know, such a public thing, Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course there's this. I think there's an element not
Speaker 1: only for us but for our wedding planner because it's
Speaker 1: gonna be so public, he wants to make it as
Speaker 1: perfect as possible. And um, that puts a lot of
Speaker 1: pressure on things because nobody wants to, you know, chints out.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to cheap out on things. Um. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, you know, it's our decision. You know,
Speaker 1: it's at the end of the day, we have to
Speaker 1: do it's best for me and Ashley and our families.
Speaker 1: So um. But yeah, no, there's definitely been a little
Speaker 1: bit of pressure, saying like, I hope people especially coming
Speaker 1: to the wedding our guests, I think specifically for my friends,
Speaker 1: not so much like you know, bachelor people, because you
Speaker 1: guys kind of get it, but like, I think my
Speaker 1: friends and family have this idea of who we are
Speaker 1: as a couple and who we are as people, and
Speaker 1: like this quote unquote celebrity status we have. Um, I
Speaker 1: just hope that they don't get underwhelmed, you know, thinking
Speaker 1: like that kind of I guess pressure measure trip or
Speaker 1: form or whatever. Yeah, I just because so many people
Speaker 1: they just you know, I think they have a different
Speaker 1: idea of who we are, not in a not a
Speaker 1: bad way, but just in a way. You know, you're
Speaker 1: saying you don't want like your bachelor friends to be underwhelmed,
Speaker 1: not my bachelor friends friend your friends to be underwhelmed,
Speaker 1: or like think it should be grander than I just
Speaker 1: have no idea what they're expecting. But I know when
Speaker 1: I talked to them, I think, you know, they're always like,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, it's hard to really articulate, but they
Speaker 1: see a picture of us with you know, you know,
Speaker 1: being able to like do some really cool things, right
Speaker 1: and meet some really cool people, and I don't want
Speaker 1: my friends to be like, oh yeah, that was that
Speaker 1: was cool. But it was a lot like on the
Speaker 1: weddings I've been to. I thought it was gonna be
Speaker 1: so much grander and that shouldn't be a concern of mine,
Speaker 1: but for some reason, I think it a little bit.
Speaker 1: It is. Okay. I want to give my last piece
Speaker 1: of advice for you, because I had gone through this
Speaker 1: with the show and a televised wedding, and I definitely
Speaker 1: felt pressure and those eyes and I haven't even seen it.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how it's gonna look. Um, So
Speaker 1: it's like impending beautiful ceremony. It's gonna look great, thank you.
Speaker 1: I mean, we can't talk too much about it, but
Speaker 1: the ceremony itself was god breathtaking. I can't wait to
Speaker 1: watch things so much. But at one point, like Chris
Speaker 1: and I, we just had to let go and we
Speaker 1: just had to let it unfold as it was going to.
Speaker 1: And it was like two days before we just completely
Speaker 1: surrendered it. And it's like, if things don't happen the
Speaker 1: way that we we think they're going to, that's fine.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna let We're just gonna let it go.
Speaker 1: We just let go and we just surrendered into it.
Speaker 1: And because of that, like the day of the wedding,
Speaker 1: like we did. When I did that walk, it was
Speaker 1: the most calm I had been throughout the entire process,
Speaker 1: Like when I walked down the aisle and just standing
Speaker 1: there with Chris and everything before that and all the
Speaker 1: stresses and even all the people and my neurotic made
Speaker 1: of honor, like none of that, It's just matter because
Speaker 1: it all out to this moment. So when you show
Speaker 1: up to Rhode Island, give it a day to get
Speaker 1: it out, jump in the in the water, and then
Speaker 1: just like let it go and remember like everyone's here
Speaker 1: to celebrate you. Guys, this is your moment, your day.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about other people's expectations. Yeah I won't be
Speaker 1: during this. They're showing up just to celebrate you, So
Speaker 1: just hold that close to your heart. I am very
Speaker 1: excited for that moment, for like from the moment I
Speaker 1: get to the altar, because I guess I'll be the
Speaker 1: first person there, and I'm very excited for that moment
Speaker 1: because like it would be cool just like I've been
Speaker 1: in you know, the place the church, we're getting married
Speaker 1: in so many times now that it would be cool
Speaker 1: to go into it now where it's full of just
Speaker 1: the people I love, you know, because that's gonna be
Speaker 1: because every time I walk in, it's just empty, and
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, yeah, this is where everybody's been sitting,
Speaker 1: and then they'll be standing, will be there, Papa, bappah bah.
Speaker 1: And then like there's gonna be a moment very soon
Speaker 1: where I walk in it's gonna be full and like
Speaker 1: everybodys gonna be looking at me and it's holy sh it,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get married. And then to see like, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody start walking down the aisle and the grundsman and
Speaker 1: uh and then obviously see the doors open up and
Speaker 1: see Ashley standing there with your dad is uh. That's
Speaker 1: when I think I'm most excited about. You're gonna cry
Speaker 1: so much. Are you doing a first look? Oh? Yeah? Oh?
Speaker 1: And uh no, no first look. Um. The first time
Speaker 1: I will see Ashley in her dress is when her
Speaker 1: dad is walking arou down the aisle, which I'm very
Speaker 1: excited about, counting down, counting down the days. It's coming
Speaker 1: very soon. But that will put an end to our
Speaker 1: podcast today, Chrystal, thank you so much for coming on.
Speaker 1: In the end, thank you for the advice. I will
Speaker 1: certainly be taking you to her and thinking about it,
Speaker 1: and I will certainly try not to stress on the
Speaker 1: day of and I don't think Ashley will either. And
Speaker 1: we got to watch your wedding in a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks too on National Toble then Sane, I can't wait.
Speaker 1: Do you look beautiful? To Chris look great, You look beautiful.
Speaker 1: It was awesome to to be there, so thank you
Speaker 1: for having us um and thank you Dean Vanessa for
Speaker 1: being in studio. Thumbs up from Dean. I had fun
Speaker 1: on this podcast. We just kind of rambled. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: love it. I love that too, talked about Ron all
Speaker 1: the great stuff in life. Really, Tori, you are a
Speaker 1: trooper as always us. Always a shoutout Tory. She's just
Speaker 1: killing the game. Her a the love and make sure
Speaker 1: you tune in next week, where hopefully we all suck
Speaker 1: a little less. Follow hell by Suck at Dating with Dean,
Speaker 1: Vanessa and Jared on I Heart Radio or wherever you
Speaker 1: listen to podcast