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Speaker 1: Well, what's up. It's way up at Angela Yee. I'm

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Speaker 1: That's being gun.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm trying to save you because people are shopping.

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Speaker 2: And that's true, Keisha.

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Speaker 1: Cole, you are out here working so hard. We were

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Speaker 1: just talking about everything that you had to do these

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, it's all the part of the you know, playing,

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Speaker 1: While you've been on tour right now, the Love Hard Tour. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I feel good about it.

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Speaker 3: We finally get into I think it'll be over by

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Speaker 3: the time I get to a place where I'm really

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Speaker 1: What do you mean by completely comfortable?

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Speaker 3: You know, it's a problem with like set list and

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Speaker 3: like some people haven't seen me in forever, so.

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Speaker 2: They want to hear older songs.

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Speaker 3: And then I'm looking at it from a standpoint of

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Speaker 3: I don't know, they maybe just should hear it.

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Speaker 2: They hits.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I just I don't know. I feel like

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Speaker 1: Right, that's good. And you've been doing so much. You

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Speaker 1: guess you've done reality shows based on your life, so

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Speaker 3: Well, I actually wanted to play myself in my movie.

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Speaker 3: I actually had a meeting with him on the reality show,

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Speaker 2: So fifty had.

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Speaker 3: Done one, Eminem had done one, and we and the

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Speaker 3: It was more of you know, everything that transpired between

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Speaker 1: So it was kind of like you paying homage to

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Speaker 3: Right, I mean, well, it's a lot of our lives

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Speaker 1: Even when I was watching your Lifetime movie, there was

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Speaker 3: To take plenty of times. Yeah, yeah, I mean, but

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Speaker 3: you know that is what I was telling fifty. It's

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Speaker 1: Do you think you would do something that we'll be

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You think the music business is getting better for women

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Speaker 3: Oh no, we got some heavy hitters. We got some

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I haven't. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: That's why you and a Shanty did the verses together.

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Speaker 2: She did a song with me, woman and Woman.

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Speaker 2: Right? And then I ended up getting the goddamn corona.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't bad though. I lost my smell and some

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Speaker 3: I thought I was gonna I wasn't gonna make it

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Speaker 1: Now you had also supposed to this, I should get

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Speaker 1: So what's going on now with your personal life?

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Speaker 1: Have you been nothing?

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Speaker 1: So but when you said that, I mean you feel

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Speaker 2: I don't know. You just got to take time.

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Speaker 1: What are some things you feel like you've learned from

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Speaker 3: It was so sweet. I was so tired too that day.

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Speaker 3: I'm made sold. Yes, yes, yes, it was like that

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Speaker 1: They even know about that? Like some little kids just feeling.

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Speaker 3: And I think that I'm so glad God gave me

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Speaker 1: for sure, they always do, isn't that what always happens?

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Speaker 3: It as soon as I'm done, Yeah, yeah, as soon

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Speaker 2: Hey, no, those feelings are gone.

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Speaker 1: Would you do another show?

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Speaker 2: No reality? No? No, no, no, those days are long gone.

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Speaker 3: A documentary, yeah, like something like that, you know, but

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Speaker 1: I guess right, didn't she have a song that was like, Sam, oh, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, baby girl. Yeah, But I think she may have

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Speaker 3: It didn't and it wasn't her fault, and that's all

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Speaker 3: I was trying to tell her.

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Speaker 2: So ain't no thing but the chicken wang on the strings.

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Speaker 1: Do you write for other people?

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Speaker 2: No, I've never written for other people, only myself.

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Speaker 1: Really, you know, nobody's ever approached you like, can you write?

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Speaker 1: Do you have songs that you never put out that

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Speaker 2: No, why is it? Why is it? Did?

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Speaker 1: I feel like as a songwriter writing for yourself you do?

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Speaker 3: I think because I have a friend of mine that's

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Speaker 3: But I see him work like so much, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: You said You've also never cleared for anybody to like

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say I wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: I just haven't been moved by any music that I

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Speaker 1: Yes, songs are like your Baby's huh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Prince it was so hard for people to clear any

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Speaker 2: Prince is not having it. He's not having it.

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Speaker 3: But I wouldn't say never, because I feel like there

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, yeah, let's do it, put me on it.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Who are some of the new artists that you like

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Speaker 1: He just all right, I shouldn't have sprained that question.

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Speaker 1: And you cause sometimes you think later on like, oh,

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Speaker 2: Yo.

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Speaker 1: You had that show on Fox Soul too. How did

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Speaker 3: Well, that was kind of cool in a way to

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Speaker 2: So I didn't want to do anything. But and that

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Speaker 3: And then James Dubos he actually did the reality shows

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Speaker 1: What was How was that different for you being in

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Speaker 2: It was fun.

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Speaker 3: I felt a sense of responsibility, Like I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I was like I didn't want them to be uncomfortable.

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Speaker 3: I didn't want them to be asked anything that I

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Speaker 2: I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to be fair with everybody, you know that.

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Speaker 3: I mean it was pretty cool to have that different position.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, because I think sometimes like when you have

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Speaker 1: look at that job differently too, Oh for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now, if we think about your history when you were

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Speaker 1: this is meant for me.

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Speaker 2: For sure.

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Speaker 3: Oh it had to be because I either that or

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Speaker 3: I mean? So there was no other option. There was

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Speaker 3: no B, plan B or C. There was no plan

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Speaker 3: B or C.

443
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Speaker 1: So you never had a day job or did you?

444
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Speaker 1: Oh you braid it?

445
00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:51,800
Speaker 2: Hare? Did? I braided hair?

446
00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,840
Speaker 3: And I worked at a goodwill, I worked at a

447
00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:59,200
Speaker 3: coffee shop. Should I worked at norse Strums, the where

448
00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,120
Speaker 3: they package and unpackage everything.

449
00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,600
Speaker 2: I did that for a while, but I quit. I

450
00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:04,439
Speaker 2: just couldn't do it.

451
00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,200
Speaker 1: You're like, I can't do this, it's.

452
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Speaker 3: Too much, you know, the commute at night. I'm a girl.

453
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Speaker 3: It's like I can't be Oh no, I have to six.

454
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Speaker 2: It's dark. I'm in West Oakland. This ain't working. Yeah.

455
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Speaker 1: No, Honestly, like I think that people do, like you said,

456
00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,080
Speaker 1: really relate to you, just because they've had a chance

457
00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,119
Speaker 1: to witness so much of what you've gone through in

458
00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,359
Speaker 1: real time in real life and we all be having,

459
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,920
Speaker 1: like our family things that we have to deal with.

460
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Speaker 1: You know, when you were doing that show, were there

461
00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,439
Speaker 1: ever episodes that you were like, I don't know if

462
00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:33,440
Speaker 1: I want this to air.

463
00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:34,840
Speaker 2: Oh, the reality show?

464
00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, I minegate Like in the movie I put that,

465
00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,439
Speaker 3: it got to a point where it was time to stop.

466
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Speaker 3: It just was time to stop. And it was more

467
00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,680
Speaker 3: so of the intent of the show had always been

468
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,600
Speaker 3: to show that you can make it through what we've

469
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Speaker 3: gone through and actually come together as a family, actually

470
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Speaker 3: you know, get some therapy, actually just turn your life

471
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Speaker 3: around ultimately, and that didn't happen. So I was like, yeah,

472
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:04,800
Speaker 3: this plan isn't right.

473
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes being on TV might even make it like more

474
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,720
Speaker 1: amplified too, in a way, you can't ever predict what

475
00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,080
Speaker 1: it's going to be like. You can have the hope

476
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 1: for the goal of this is what it's gonna do

477
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,840
Speaker 1: for us. It doesn't always happen that way.

478
00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:20,560
Speaker 2: It did not happen that way.

479
00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:21,960
Speaker 1: Do you want to do more acting?

480
00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 2: Yes?

481
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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that's exactly what me and fifty was talking

482
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Speaker 3: about for sure.

483
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Speaker 1: Oh so does this mean you might be on one

484
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 1: of his shows at some point or or is it

485
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,919
Speaker 1: about creating your own show? It's about creation, Okay, I

486
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,439
Speaker 1: could see a Keisha Cole series.

487
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I wouldn't play myself. I've already gotten

488
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 3: that out the way, right, I wanted to do it.

489
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 3: I've always wanted to headline my own arena tour. I'm

490
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Speaker 3: doing that. I like, these are things that I've goals

491
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 3: that I've set for myself that I've done. Like, so

492
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,639
Speaker 3: now it's all about just like you know what I'm saying,

493
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Speaker 3: what God has for me that he wants me to

494
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Speaker 3: do at this point.

495
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Speaker 1: Oh so it feels like this could be something that's

496
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Speaker 1: in the work, all right, I cannot wait.

497
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,120
Speaker 2: That right, I'm like, I don't know what's gonna happen.

498
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 3: But I know God is in control, so it's all good.

499
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 1: All right. Well, Keisha Cold, thank you so much for

500
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 1: joining us. I see how many more dates are left

501
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 1: on this Oh you have until April fourteenth. It's been

502
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,239
Speaker 1: doing good though I've been I told you, I've been

503
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,440
Speaker 1: seeing a lot of that footage.

504
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 2: I wish you would have came.

505
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy. You don't know why nobody invited,

506
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 1: Like I was, like, I didn't even realize it was

507
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 1: happening here.

508
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 2: That is insane.

509
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 1: But you have my numbers, so next time you gotta yeah.

510
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna hit you because you should have been there.

511
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 3: I mean, it was really in fifty came I saw

512
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:38,160
Speaker 3: him and Jadakiss was there, Bobbie Schmurder was there.

513
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:39,639
Speaker 1: New York came out for you.

514
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 3: The Rim came out on stage with Connie and then

515
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 3: a boogie with the hoodie came out.

516
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Speaker 2: He came out with his hoodie. You feel me. It

517
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:47,880
Speaker 2: was really nice.

518
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:48,479
Speaker 1: Listen.

519
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 3: Oh, fab was there, he came out on he came out.

520
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 3: This is like Jim Jones.

521
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 1: That is like a powerhouse.

522
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Jahim did great, Kim Shall did great.

523
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,880
Speaker 3: You know everybody did amazing, So it was so much fun.

524
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 1: Well good, I'm glad. I saw Atlanta looked like it

525
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 1: was lit.

526
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 3: Too, Atlanta, Yes, it was lit. Detroit was fire.

527
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 1: Man, Wait, hold on, did you have your Oakland stop yet?

528
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 2: No, that's at the end.

529
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 1: That's gonna be really crazy.

530
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be really crazy.

531
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be the other body, and I think we

532
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 3: gonna have a set list and everything together by the end.

533
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,360
Speaker 2: Like, man, oh my god.

534
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 1: It's a process.

535
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 2: It is.

536
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Speaker 3: It's a long process, and I feel like, man, I

537
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 3: wish it was longer so we could really like just

538
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 3: rock out.

539
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:31,919
Speaker 1: You know. That's interesting though, like what you said in

540
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,719
Speaker 1: the beginning of the balance of knowing like hit songs,

541
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 1: but also songs that they could be, songs that were

542
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 1: never singles that people love if.

543
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 3: They are excited that I'm performing. Yeah, yeah, like you've changed.

544
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 3: It's one that they've asked for since the beginning. It's like,

545
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 3: so I wasn't gonna take that out, but I decided

546
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Speaker 3: not to.

547
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:51,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

548
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: All the feedback helps too, so you know, like how

549
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 1: to craft everything.

550
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, because I want to do right by them,

551
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,360
Speaker 3: Like I don't want to like just be like, yeah,

552
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 3: let's just do the hits and just off stage.

553
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 2: It was like, no, you know what I'm saying. I

554
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 2: love y'all. Thank y'all.

555
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: You're doing a new album too, Yes, at some point

556
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: this year, you think, or next year.

557
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 2: So you just started so it could be happening year all.

558
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 1: Right, all right, well, Keishako, always a pleasure to see you.

559
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: Every time I see you. It's like a fun environment.

560
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, of course I love that for us.

561
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: I do too. Yeah, you know, we're good, we go

562
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 2: way back.

563
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: All right, Well, how has it been since you've been listen?

564
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 1: I'm happy really yeah. I really like doing my own thing.

565
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you don't got the two guys on the

566
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 2: side of you. Ye, I love them both too. But

567
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 2: I thought that was such a great mix, I really

568
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 2: you know.

569
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't know, but I just am happy to

570
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: have like my own things, so I could kind of

571
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 1: carry my own content. It's nice. And I could sleep

572
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: a little later really, yes, because that show started in

573
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Speaker 1: the morning. Yeah, six am. That's ungodly like to get

574
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: up at four half in the morning every day, so

575
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: now wake up at like seven sometimes seven thirty. It's

576
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: a life changing. Really, yeah, I feel like I could

577
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 1: like go out at night.

578
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 2: Well you look happier.

579
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm happy.

580
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 2: I will say that I'm happy.

581
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 1: And look at you achieving all of your goals. I

582
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 1: gotta make sure you always get your flowers. Headlining your

583
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: own tour, you know, acting in movies and playing yourself

584
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: in a movie, and now you're about to have the

585
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 1: series that you're doing with fifty cents.

586
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, we gotta wait, all.

587
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: Right, Well, Kisha ko as always, thank you so much.

588
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Speaker 2: Of course, thank you for having me