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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, It's Jefferson White here back with another episode

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Speaker 1: of the Official Yellowstone Podcast, presented by Win Las Vegas,

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Speaker 1: recording again at their incredible studio, and man, I am

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Speaker 1: excited for this next episode. Before I get in, I

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Speaker 1: wanted to thank all of you so so much for listening.

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Speaker 1: The Yellowstone community, the sort of family that has sprung

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Speaker 1: up around Yellowstone over the last four years, has embraced

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Speaker 1: this podcast, and I'm so so grateful for that, in

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Speaker 1: part because it means we get to keep making it.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think this whole podcast as a bit

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Speaker 1: of a love letter to the Yellowstone community. It's an

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Speaker 1: opportunity for me to have some conversations with the cast

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Speaker 1: and crew of Yellowstone that I see are fans having

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Speaker 1: in the comments section on social media. So I'm just

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Speaker 1: because it means that we get to keep going in

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Speaker 1: as a fan of the show, I get to keep

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Speaker 1: digging a little deeper. So thank you. This so particularly

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Speaker 1: into some real authentic rodeo talk, and who better to

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Speaker 1: kick that off than my dear, dear friend Fory Smith,

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Speaker 1: for he plays Lloyd on the show. We're going to

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Speaker 1: talk to him about his life before Yellowstone as a

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get into that in one minute after this

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Speaker 1: quick break. So I am incredibly lucky to be joined

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Speaker 1: You know Fory as Lloyd in Yellowstone, one of the toughest,

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Speaker 1: most brilliant horsemen I've ever known, who's taught me an

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Speaker 1: and I'm incredibly grateful that you could join us today. Fory,

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm honored to be here with you.

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Speaker 3: Jefferson, You and me've done some great stuff in the past,

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Speaker 3: and this is really cool that we get to be

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it's such a joy. We've been on a

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Speaker 1: hell of a ride.

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Speaker 2: It has.

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Speaker 3: It's been a great ride. Just very blessed with what

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Speaker 3: And then you know, the monetary part of it's really

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Speaker 1: Yeah that helps. Yeah, So tell me a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Obviously we know a little bit about Lloyd's backstory. Will

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Speaker 1: tell me about your your history of riding, your history

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Speaker 1: So and that's something that I think the Yellowstone part

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Speaker 1: It's a lifelong endeavor. It's something that's been in your

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Speaker 1: So will you talk a little bit about how you

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Speaker 3: One of the first things is season one. I talked

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Speaker 3: Helped me out a lot, and we got down. He says,

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Speaker 1: And you're keeping a great tradition alive, a way of life.

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Speaker 1: It goes back generations, like you said, and rodeos the

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Speaker 3: I gotta give Taylor credit there. He did a really

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Speaker 1: And I feel like a lot of the credit that

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Speaker 1: to say, let's put Fory in there, Let's put Lloyd

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Speaker 3: Well, I just grew up in it, you know, people,

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Speaker 3: And after I did that, all the old cowboys are like,

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Speaker 3: to be part of it.

436
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 1: Man, Thank you for so much for being here.

437
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 2: You're very welcome.

438
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 3: One of the things that I want to talk about

439
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 3: was when you lost your hat, remember, yeah, and I

440
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 3: had to go catch your horse. Well, they Taylor came

441
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 3: to me in the script it was I rope the horse,

442
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 3: and Taylor said, man, and he says, you know, I

443
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 3: know he picked up Bronx at rodeos and stuff. He says,

444
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 3: if you can just go grab the rein and take

445
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 3: him take him the horse. He says, I don't know

446
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 3: how we're going to set that up and everything. And

447
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 3: then the second time, second take, the horse wouldn't have

448
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 3: any part of it and was going to run off,

449
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 3: and I've run him up out of the brush and

450
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 3: reached and roped him. I thought I was going to

451
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 3: get in trouble for roping him. And Taylor's like, oh,

452
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 3: and oh was the cameraman's name? He come out from

453
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 3: behind the camera. He's like, that's the beautiful shot I

454
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 3: ever shot. I got the rope, I got the horse.

455
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 3: Oh and Jefferson's in the back. He always just the greatest.

456
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 3: And that showed me right there that day that this

457
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 3: was going to be a great movie and that there

458
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 3: was more powers behind it than we could see.

459
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 2: And I'm just.

460
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 3: So happy that Taylor's written this in that it's a

461
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 3: number one. It's doing so great. It's bringing my culture

462
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 3: and my heritage back to the forefront of our nation.

463
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 3: And I think there's a there's an honor and a

464
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 3: discipline that comes from ranch people and cowboys that this

465
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,959
Speaker 3: country needs right now. And I think it's perfect timing

466
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 3: for Yellowstone.

467
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: Amazing, man, it is always amazing. Speaking to my good

468
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: friend Fory J. Smith, We're gonna take a breath here,

469
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: and when we come back, the other Jimmy, my stunt double,

470
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 1: Bobby Roberts, is going to be calling in, so please

471
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: don't go anywhere. Today we are talking to Bobby Roberts.

472
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: Bobby is a stunt performer and rodeo cowboy who has

473
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: been playing Jimmy as long as I have. My very

474
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: first day on Yellowstone Season one, Bobby was there too,

475
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: So Bobby's been playing Jimmy just as long as I have.

476
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: He does all the bucking Broncos sequences. He does pretty

477
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: much everything that I'm too scared to do. So it's

478
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 1: an honor to have Bobby here today. Bobby, just real quick,

479
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: you and I have known each other for four years now,

480
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: will you just talk for a little bit. Introduced to

481
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 1: folks that don't know you yet to your background, how

482
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,479
Speaker 1: you wound up on Yellowstone, what you were doing before

483
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: the show, and just who you are. So who are you?

484
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 4: I'm just some branch trace cowboy from around here in California.

485
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 4: It's funny a lot of people think that when they

486
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 4: when they tell when I tell him I'm from California,

487
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 4: they said, you live in the city. They don't know

488
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 4: cowboys in the city. I said, no, Actually, I live

489
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 4: in a really nice part of the state. We got

490
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of steep hills, a lot

491
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 4: of cattle, a lot of good, down to earth people.

492
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 4: I was a radio cowboy before I pursued my stunt career,

493
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 4: really rode bulls Bronx team around and I got the call.

494
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 4: I kind of quit riding bulls in about twenty fifteen,

495
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 4: and then Jason Roder guests called and asked if I

496
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 4: would ride a bucking horse for Yellowstone. I kind of

497
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 4: just thought it was going to be one one deal.

498
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 4: I'm done, and here four years later, I've made a

499
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 4: great group of friends and a great group of people.

500
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 4: I've been there just waiting for the next hall.

501
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: That's uh. Every time Jimmy falls off the horse, you

502
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: and me both wonder if we still have a job.

503
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: So far, so far we're doing okay, but every time

504
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: you go off that horse, we're both worried.

505
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 4: When we're when we're down in Texas, I asked Taylor.

506
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 4: I went out with Taylor one day and we went

507
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 4: driving around stuff around the ranch and we're hunting, and

508
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 4: he goes, I said, hey, could I ask what happens

509
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 4: in the what happens like did we make it? And

510
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 4: he goes, do you ever read the script? I said no.

511
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 4: He goes, I said, I actually don't get a script,

512
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 4: and he goes, well, they'll just have to watch to

513
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 4: find out.

514
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: That's basically what he tells me, Bobby. Anytime I try

515
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: and get a little comfort from Taylor Sheridan, it's hard

516
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: to find. No, no, no, He's a very compassionate, kind,

517
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: generous boss. So talk to me about the world of rodeo.

518
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: I've been learning about this from you for years. So Jimmy,

519
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: Jimmy is basically clueless, which is convenient because I Jeff

520
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: am clueless. So starting around season two, Jimmy starts bucking horses. Basically,

521
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: he figures out that he's got a talent for it.

522
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: He starts learning about the world of rodeo. And I've

523
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: done a lot of learning alongside Jimmy, particularly from you.

524
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: So will you talk to me about how you got

525
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: started bucking, sort of what those early experiences were like

526
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: for you.

527
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 4: Yeah. So, like as far as we you know, and

528
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 4: the lifestyle that we live, we raise horses from babies

529
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 4: and we get them gentle and halter broke, and then

530
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 4: when they're two years old, we start saddling them and

531
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 4: start going through all the driving and all the process

532
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 4: to get them used to the saddle on their back.

533
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 4: And then once that happens, we step up on them

534
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 4: and most of time it's the rodeo. A lot of

535
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 4: them kind of want to buck and and it's a

536
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 4: different feel. You know, i'man a horse. Horse only sees

537
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 4: from here to here. They don't exactly seem directly in

538
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 4: front of them. So you know, when you step in

539
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 4: the left, stir up, and you're halfway on one, he's

540
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 4: scared of that side. Then you kind of get them,

541
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 4: you know, a little quiet on that side, and you

542
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 4: slip all the way over to the other side. Well

543
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 4: then he sees you from here and over here, and

544
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 4: you got it's a whole another deal. It starts all

545
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 4: over again, and most of the time they're gonna tuck

546
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 4: tail and run or buck or whatever, and it's just

547
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 4: kind of something you gotta work through to get them going.

548
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 4: And we've been doing that my whole life. And then

549
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 4: when the rodeo has kind of come around, I kind

550
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 4: of grew up a rodeo family and my brother. I

551
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 4: have an older brother that he's rod bulls for a

552
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 4: little while, kind of figured he was better off of

553
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 4: the real job, and I decided just to be a

554
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 4: carny cowboy, so I would I went to rodeoon and

555
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 4: that was that was pretty much all I knew that

556
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 4: and Randon and i'dn't get enough money saved up your rodeo,

557
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 4: and I'd take off in the rodeo until I have

558
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 4: no money left and come back home I wasn't doing

559
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 4: any good and go back to ranching. But you know,

560
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 4: rodeo on it really is a good way to make

561
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 4: a living if you're good at it. You just got

562
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 4: to know when to say it ain't working no more

563
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 4: and do something else. You know, body, you know, you've

564
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 4: got to take good care of your body. There's a

565
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 4: lot of broken bones. I've I've broke both legs, my

566
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 4: my arm collar bone. I've had my head split open,

567
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 4: my front teeth are fake, my jaw one has been broke.

568
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 4: There's a lot to it, you know, and there's still

569
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 4: a lot to it in our everyday lifestyle. Like I mean,

570
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 4: we can get bucked off out in how the past

571
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 4: are gathered cows and it's no different than just being

572
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 4: in a rodeo, but it's just more liable to happen

573
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 4: than a rodeo.

574
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: So in your experience, a lot of the guys that

575
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: you're rodeoing with, it's something that they start doing in

576
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: their lives just out of necessity. They're training horses, they're

577
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: working on ranches, and then you sort of learn that

578
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: you have a skill for it, and there's you know,

579
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: it's exciting. It's a bit of a rock star lifestyle too.

580
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: Is that part of the draw like that that sort

581
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: of excitement that atmosphere.

582
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 4: It is you know, it really is adrenaline, you know.

583
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 4: And I think that's one reason why there's a lot

584
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 4: of stunt guys that are old radio guys. And I

585
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 4: think that's one reason because once we quitt rodeo on,

586
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 4: what are we going to do to find the adrenaline rush.

587
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 4: You know, we're like kind of junkies in a way,

588
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 4: I guess when it comes to that kind of stuff,

589
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 4: But that does you know, like like I get the

590
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 4: same adrenaline rush and getting on a horse on set

591
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 4: that's gonna buck as I did when I got down

592
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 4: on the bucketsheets to get on the back of a

593
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 4: bull or get on a bucking horse. You know, it's

594
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 4: it's a whole nother meaning it just fires yup. It's

595
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 4: like the wrecked car with the mother that's able to

596
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 4: just pick it up and lift it off her chiulder

597
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 4: because of adrenaline. You can just harness that adrenaline and

598
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 4: use it to your advantage.

599
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: And that's one of the themes on the show you

600
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, the idea that you do it until you

601
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: can't anymore. You do it until you have to walk

602
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: away from it. That's one of the themes on the show.

603
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: In season three, Lloyd is saying to Jimmy, you know,

604
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: he had to quit rodeo basically because his body couldn't

605
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: take it anymore. And what do you do then? So

606
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: what's it like for a rodeo cowboy? In retirement, you

607
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: get used to that adrenaline, You get used to that

608
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:57,479
Speaker 1: feeling of performing, the crowd screaming that incredibly exciting eight

609
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: second rocket ride. What happens when you step away from.

610
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 4: That, Well, you you need to you go as long

611
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 4: as you can, you know, and and your body will

612
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 4: tell you. You know, I'm thirty thirty three years old, and

613
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 4: I'd get up a little slow in the morning when

614
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 4: I first get up. But man like, when you're done

615
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 4: with it, you'd better have been good at it and

616
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 4: have something else playned along the way to do when

617
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 4: you're done, because once you, like I say, once you're

618
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 4: broken all broken up stuff, they're in really a lot

619
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 4: that a guy can do. You know, he ain't gonna

620
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 4: be able to go play ball or anything like that. Really,

621
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 4: I mean, I just I keep I mean, I'm sore,

622
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 4: I'm banged up. I really should get some stuff fixed,

623
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 4: but I just hadn't had time.

624
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 2: To do it.

625
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: Well, you were saying, you go back and forth, and

626
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: you you you at this stage in your career, you've

627
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: got a lot of other sort of project you're working on.

628
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: You know, you're doing stunts, performance, You've got your own

629
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: ranch that you're working on, You're raising a beautiful son.

630
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: You've got a lot of other stuff that needs your

631
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: attention that gives you that same sort of feeling of

632
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: satisfaction that rodeoing once did and you mentioned also, so

633
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: you know, part of Jimmy's journey is he gets the

634
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: shit kicked out of him rodeoing. John Dutton makes it,

635
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: gives him this ultimatum, you know, you have to pick,

636
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: You have to choose, are you gonna rodeo or are

637
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: you gonna work here? Jimmy pushes it just a little

638
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: bit further and he gets he gets hurt even worse.

639
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: So a lot of Jimmy's journey in season four is

640
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: trying to sort of put his life is exactly what

641
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: you're describing now. He's trying to put his life back

642
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: together after his body sort of gives out and can't

643
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: handle the lifestyle anymore. So talk a little bit about

644
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: the relationship between ranching and rodeo. Most of these guys

645
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: you know on the rodeo circuit, they have ranches and

646
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: they work ranches themselves.

647
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, most of a lot of them, I guess,

648
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 4: you know, like a radio cowb is not really making

649
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 4: a whole lot of money, but a lot of them

650
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 4: do got quite a few ranches, and we all kind

651
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 4: of do in my area. All of this ould Rother

652
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 4: cowboys kind of do work together for the ranchers around us,

653
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 4: you know, talking like like I thought it was pretty

654
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 4: neat that where they you know, we're John Dutton told

655
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 4: Jimmy that, you know, he needs to this is the

656
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 4: time he's had a run and it's time to quit.

657
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 4: And then he goes and does it again, which that

658
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 4: is something that we all do, like we think we're done,

659
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 4: and then pretty soon five years later it's like, yeah,

660
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 4: I think I can. I feel good, I don't hurt

661
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 4: no more. Let's do it. And then we get about

662
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 4: I don't know some almost maybe a couple of months

663
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 4: out of it, and we're like, yeah, no, I remember

664
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 4: why I quit in the first place. I actually did.

665
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 4: It's you know, I got on one of the bulls

666
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 4: for season one when when he was I played Toby

667
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 4: when he was meeting with your uh with Jimmy's father

668
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 4: and that scene with John Dutton then and I think

669
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 4: that was what twenty seventeen.

670
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: Then sixteen or seventeen.

671
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 4: Sixteen or seventeen, and I didn't get on, and I

672
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 4: quit Red Bulls in fifteen and then that was thelast

673
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 4: bole I've gone on. And I got on the Two

674
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 4: Balls back in April this year for another show, and

675
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 4: uh yeah, it was. It was like riding a bike.

676
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 4: It all come right back to me, believe it or not.

677
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 4: But it's just when your when your mentality is at

678
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 4: that level and you're you're you know, you're just when

679
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 4: you're that level of caliber or cowboy and that stuff,

680
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 4: it's like riding bicycle. You know, it's muscle memory. It's

681
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 4: beaten into your mind so much that you don't even

682
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 4: have to think and just ereact. A lot of us,

683
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 4: the rodeo world is a huge family. All of us

684
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 4: know everybody. We all know everyone's wives and kids. If

685
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 4: something you know you can drive, you can get in

686
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 4: my truck right now and driving down the road with

687
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 4: the trailer on, and every trailer you passed is gonna

688
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 4: wait at you, no matter they know you're not. And

689
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 4: someone's got a flat, we pull over and help help

690
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 4: each other out. And that's just kind of the way

691
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 4: we do things around here. A lot of a lot

692
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 4: of the guys who meet at the airport in the

693
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 4: morning for coffee and breakfast. I don't I don't get

694
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 4: over there. I'll drink my coffee, but and the ranchers

695
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 4: and stuff. Like a rainy day. I remember growing up

696
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 4: as a kid when it rained. Uh, that was the

697
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 4: day all our dad said off and went to the

698
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 4: bar and had drinks and just talked about what was

699
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 4: going on and glad they finally got some rain here.

700
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 4: We've been into the drought for a while. We had

701
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,959
Speaker 4: much rain, and then we got a little rain last

702
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 4: week and I called my uncle and caught up on

703
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 4: it a little bit. But there's still a few my uncle,

704
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 4: he told me the other day. He goes, you know,

705
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 4: he used to remember everybody used to go to the

706
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 4: bar and catch up on a rainy day. And he

707
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 4: goes looking around. There's only about three of us left.

708
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 4: He said, we're all too old now. Everybody else died.

709
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 1: So, Bobby, will you talk about the experience of shooting

710
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 1: the show sort of? How how similar to a real

711
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: rodeo does that feel? When we're filming a rodeo for Yellowstone?

712
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: What are we getting wrong? What are we getting right?

713
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: What's the difference between that and a real rodeo?

714
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't think we've missed anything. I think we

715
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 4: got Jason Rodriguez. He's he's been to rodeos. He's he's

716
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 4: our coordinator on our stunt coordinator on the show. And

717
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 4: you got Taylor, which is a cowboy and he's been

718
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 4: to rodeos and everything we run, whether it was we

719
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 4: did the bull riding scene or the bucket scene, the

720
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 4: bare back scenes, or when we went when they went

721
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 4: to uh when they brought uh, well shoot, uh, what's

722
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 4: a little old boy from Texas on to do it?

723
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 4: But they did the whole barback riding deal with him?

724
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 3: Oh?

725
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: With Ryan?

726
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, I know the show. The

727
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 4: show is definitely spot on as far as the rodeo

728
00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:00,959
Speaker 4: at Inmosphere goes. And they're ranching too, but with the show,

729
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 4: I mean that just comes with people with experience to

730
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 4: running of that stuff, you know. And that's why I

731
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 4: think there's so many people in my world that enjoy

732
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 4: the show as much as anyone outside of a ranching family,

733
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 4: you know, because of watching the show. It just brings

734
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 4: them home. That's like going to the to the rodeo

735
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 4: on the weekend and watching the rodeo.

736
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: And that's one of the things that you mentioned that

737
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 1: that is also true on the show. You know, out

738
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: back behind the Dutton Ranch, they're team roping out back

739
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: behind the Dutton Ranch, they're you know, roping caves, and

740
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: you guys, the stunt performers, we would come to shoot

741
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: something and you guys would be practicing, you'd be working

742
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: the cows yourself. It really feels like there's not much

743
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: difference between the lifestyle that you guys are living when

744
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: you're shooting the show than there is when you're at

745
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: home working on the ranch. Does that feel true?

746
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that's one hundred percent. And the reason why

747
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 4: I have a job is because of that. You know,

748
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 4: we can't we can't get like as far as for

749
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 4: what I do on the show, we can't just really good.

750
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that I'm not good, but we

751
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 4: can't just get anybody that that is the same size

752
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 4: as you and you know, the same look to do

753
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 4: what we do. It has to be someone that is

754
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 4: capable of doing, you know, to ride the bronx when

755
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 4: I have not yet told them on the show I

756
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 4: won't do with something that they've asked me to do.

757
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 4: The only thing I really didn't care to do was

758
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 4: a bull poker, but I still did it.

759
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think anybody wanted to do that one.

760
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: I was like, can we use some cardboard cutouts for that,

761
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: Let's take a picture of Jimmy. Let's tick a cardboard

762
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: cutout out there. Yeah. So you, I mean, and you

763
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: you live on a ranch yourself, So when you come

764
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: to work on Yellowstone, you're working horses, You're ranching horses.

765
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: You know, you're you're roping cows, that stuff that you

766
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 1: do in your life, so that that really lends this

767
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 1: air of authenticity to it. And as an actor showing

768
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: up on set, it's an incredible gift to be surrounded

769
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: by guys that do this all day every day. You know,

770
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: you take care of us, but you also show us.

771
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: You keep us safe. You know, the Stun's team keeps

772
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: us if it keeps us from busting our asses. But

773
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 1: you guys also teach us so many little lessons. I

774
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: remember so many times I would do something and then

775
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: you come up to me in between takes. You're giving

776
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: me pointers. You're sort of making sure that everything that

777
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: goes on camera is as real as possible, is as

778
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: authentic as possible. Little stuff. You know, you you have

779
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: such a keen eye for those details, and you're so

780
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: It's something that has comes so naturally to you that

781
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: I'm always looking to you on set to say, hey, Bobby,

782
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: how can I do that better? How can I get

783
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: a little closer to the real thing there?

784
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, you're one hundred percent right on that.

785
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 4: And and I try to do that with everyone that ask,

786
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 4: you know, even Cole Cole comes and talks to me

787
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 4: about it. And I love Cold Death. He's great. I've

788
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 4: made so many good friends on that show. And uh,

789
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 4: and and that's one thing I mean, not only I

790
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 4: mean that is by far my favorite show to watch,

791
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 4: is my favorite show to work on, because of the

792
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 4: fan like our our Yellowstone family, you know. Uh, it's

793
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 4: just everyone is that. Everybody's got everybody's backs. No one's

794
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 4: out to get anybody. Everybody just wants to help eirone

795
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 4: and get through it. And that's all I want to do.

796
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 4: I just want to see you do what you do

797
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 4: and be great at it, and I'll just do what

798
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 4: you tilman.

799
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: Do you guys set us up for success. You make

800
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 1: us look a lot cooler than we would otherwise. I'm

801
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: doing exactly what you tell me to do. It's so funny.

802
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: I'll do a take and I'll feel like I was

803
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: going one hundred miles an hour. I'll feel like I

804
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: really nailed it, And you'll come up and say, Jeff, uh,

805
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: I think you can do that a little faster every

806
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: time because you guys, you guys, also because you really

807
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 1: know this world. I think you guys are a huge

808
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: driving force behind pushing for authenticity. You guys are so

809
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: good at coming up, you know, adjusting the reins to

810
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: make it look real, especially in those rodeo sequences. You

811
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: know exactly how it should look because it's your life.

812
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: It's the life you've lived. So you're so good at

813
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 1: sort of making these so changes that I think really

814
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: helped to make the show an immersive experience.

815
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 4: Right And and like you say, with adjusting the rains

816
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 4: and stuff on set too, we're not only doing that

817
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 4: to make the authenticity better. It's uh, you know, it's

818
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 4: a big safety issue. One of them's longer in the

819
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 4: other one, and you pull to stop a horse and

820
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 4: he's just gonna turn that direction or something, especially going

821
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 4: at a high rates of speed, or you know, like

822
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 4: when we're running out through the pastor to catch something

823
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 4: on the show and stuff like when I when we

824
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 4: went to Texas to shoot down there, and Jason told me,

825
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 4: he goes, I'm leaving up to you to keep Difference safe.

826
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 4: And I thought, oh, man, all right, and he goes,

827
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 4: it's he goes, it's it's on you. He said, you

828
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 4: keep him safe, and I want you to report to

829
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 4: me every night since you're going down here by yourself

830
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 4: a little. And I said, okay. So I talked to

831
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 4: him every night, you know. Like I said, I did

832
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 4: have one concern on that show when we were down

833
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 4: there in Texas, and I talked to Jason about it

834
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 4: and we we got it. We got it worked up

835
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 4: for the most part, though. I mean, I feel like

836
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 4: we'd keep you pretty safe and try to keep doing that.

837
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: It's such a gift, man, it's such a gift to

838
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 1: talk to you. Thank you so much for taking the time.

839
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: I think we're wrapping up now. So thank you so much,

840
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: Bobby for everything you've done to keep me safe for

841
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: four years, for everything you've done to keep the show

842
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 1: so authentic and so sort of real. Thank you so much.

843
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: Man.

844
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 4: Hey, no problem, Jeff, you take care and appreciate you

845
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 4: dialing me in for this and hope it was worthly enough.

846
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 4: And we'll see in a few months. We'll see on

847
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,959
Speaker 4: film on TV a couple of days.

848
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, see you real soon, Bobby cheers man, see it.

849
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: I feel so lucky to get to hang out with

850
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: my friends and hear these incredible stories. Don't forget to

851
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: come back. Next week we're going to dive into the

852
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: music of Yellowstone. We drop new episodes every Thursday, so

853
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: make sure to subscribe and tune in to the Official

854
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:03,080
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855
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 1: The Official Yellowstone Podcast is hosted by me Jefferson White

856
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,120
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