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Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody on Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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Speaker 1: the Bengals Booths podcast. The Haven't Got Time for the

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Speaker 1: pain addition, as the Bengals suffered their first loss of

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Speaker 1: the season in Chicago and look to bounce back quickly

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Speaker 1: against the dreaded, hated, but always respected Pittsburgh Steelers. Coming up,

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Speaker 1: you'll hear radio replay from Sunday's game, postgame comments from

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Speaker 1: players and coaches, and analysis from my broadcast partner Dave Lappo. Then,

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Speaker 1: in this week's fun facts segment, chitubay A Wouge tells

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Speaker 1: us the all time worst mispronunciation of his name. It

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Speaker 1: the Road with Mike Brown and Dave Lapham. You might

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Speaker 1: have heard me mentioned this before, but when the Bengals

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Speaker 1: play a road game, one of the joys of my

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Speaker 1: job is having an early breakfast on the morning of

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Speaker 1: the game with Bengals president Mike Brown, his close friend

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Speaker 1: Jack Schiff, and my broadcast partner Dave Lapham. It's basically

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Speaker 1: an hour of gut busting laughter as Mike and lap

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Speaker 1: share stories from the remarkable football lives. This week's topics

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Speaker 1: included NFL games played years ago at Wrigley Field, Paul

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Speaker 1: Brown ripping a young Lap in front of the rest

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Speaker 1: of the team, former Bengals who comically struggled to deal

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Speaker 1: with crowd, noise and laps days as a fourteen year

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Speaker 1: old moving company lugger. Trust me, I wish I could

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Speaker 1: record these breakfasts because it would make a great podcast.

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Speaker 1: Now let's get to Sunday's game. Chicago Bears fans have

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Speaker 1: been clamoring for the team to yank Andy Dalton and

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Speaker 1: make rookie Justin Fields they're starting quarterback. In fact, the

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Speaker 1: talk all week in Chicago was that Dalton would be

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Speaker 1: loudly booed as soon as he made a mistake. The

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Speaker 1: headline in the Chicago Sun Times on Sunday read as follows,

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Speaker 1: Dalton can't afford a dud on the Bears opening drive

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Speaker 1: Dalton was more stud than dud and he has the ball,

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Speaker 1: five Allen Robinson. Quite a start for Andy Dalton and

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Speaker 1: the Bears as they marched seventy five yards to score. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you that was a dart right there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the crowd right now in full support of Andy Dalton,

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Speaker 1: how can you not be? Dalton got some help on

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Speaker 1: the opening drive, a thirty two yard pass interference penalty

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Speaker 1: linebacker Logan Wilson on the bengals lousy start on defense.

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Speaker 1: They just made some place. You know, I think that's

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Speaker 1: just just the nature of this team. It's you're always

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Speaker 1: going to be faced adversity. And you know, they scored

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Speaker 1: and that's that's not the way we wanted to start.

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Speaker 1: But you know, we rebounded, and I think that that's

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Speaker 1: the most important thing. The Bengals did not allow another

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Speaker 1: Second and eleven, Dalton back to throw, and he has

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Speaker 1: sacked back at the forty five yard line, a tremendous

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton gets up limping. Dalton hurt his knee and

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Speaker 1: while it didn't appear to be too severe, he was

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Speaker 1: sacked After getting sacked five times in Week one, Burrow

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Speaker 1: usually for us that signifies an opportunity to try to

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Speaker 1: It also started a very different streak. Burrow fakes to

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Speaker 1: Interception number three in a row for Chicago, and he

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Speaker 1: Bears a twenty to three lead with six forty to go. No,

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Speaker 1: and you know they're making plays. Yeah, gotta give credit

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Speaker 1: to them. At that point, the Bengals appeared to be toast,

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Speaker 1: but Burrow is not about to go down without a fight.

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Speaker 1: Bengals have five receivers spread out. Burrow's gonna fling it

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Speaker 1: forty two yard Bengals touchdown. How about that two games

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Speaker 1: in the NFL too long touchdown catches for Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 1: That's my expectation. I'm playing on scoring every game. I'll

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Speaker 1: Burrow through thirty passes in the game and only three

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Speaker 1: some plays that they go over their head. He needed

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Speaker 1: two last minutes to take shots. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, We just got a capitalize on the stuff

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Speaker 1: by Trey Hendrickson and running for a ten yard gain

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Speaker 1: from there to win the game twenty to seventeen. Here

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Speaker 1: are Zach Taylor and Logan Wilson. It's a seventeen game season.

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Speaker 1: We just lost a tough game on the road. We

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Speaker 1: lost the tourna got killed in the turn of o

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Speaker 1: battle and just the margin frayer in this league is

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Speaker 1: razor thin. You know, I don't think anyone can question

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Speaker 1: the heart on this team. Shoot, we were down twenty

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Speaker 1: no question we have hard on this team. We just

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Speaker 1: and which I know we will. And we got a

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Speaker 1: big challenge next week at Pittsburgh. So we're gonna watch

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Speaker 1: the film in tomorrow. I learned from it and move on.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals held the Bears to a meager two hundred

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Speaker 1: and six yards and just one offensive touchdown. Perhaps Chicago

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Speaker 1: fans should be careful what they wished for. Fields had

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Speaker 1: a passer rating of twenty seven point seven. Dalton's was

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Speaker 1: one eighteen point two, but the difference in the game

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Speaker 1: was obviously turnovers. The Bengals committed four and forced one.

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Speaker 1: As a result, the record is one and one. Now

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Speaker 1: it's true. I think it wasn't really a rule set

429
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: by a school or by a teacher or a parent.

430
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 1: It was kind of you know, the kids that I

431
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 1: was playing with didn't want me to play with them

432
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: because I was everything. Home i played, someone was getting

433
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 1: hurt or injury was happening. So yeah, you know, I

434
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: think that definitely led me into football. It seems like

435
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: the perfect outlet to take out that aggression. Your parents

436
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: are Nigerian immigrants who earned college degrees in the US.

437
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: How did their values in their work ethic impact you?

438
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:39,199
Speaker 1: It impacted me so heavily. I definitely grew up with

439
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 1: the duality of being Nigerian American to the tea. When

440
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: I was home raising the Nigerian home, my Auntie's uncles, cousins,

441
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: we'd go to parties on the weekend, whether it be

442
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 1: a meeting or a celebration. The Nigerian culture definitely was

443
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: in me. And then when I would go into school

444
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 1: and I'd get a very good taste of the American culture.

445
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: So um, definitely that duality has raised me to understand others,

446
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 1: to be heavy on family, to have faith in God,

447
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: and you know, just to always work hard. Have you

448
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: made it to Nigeria to see where your family's from?

449
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: I have. I have. The first time I went was

450
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: my sophomore year in high school. I was sixteen or

451
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: fifteen or something like that. And you know, it was

452
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 1: beautiful just to see cousins who I've never met before,

453
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: family members, see where my parents grew up, and see

454
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,199
Speaker 1: where my grandparents and my leney has basically started. You know,

455
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,479
Speaker 1: we have a village house in the village of Football

456
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: here and that's where everybody congregated and it was just

457
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: a beautiful, beautiful time in my life. We're visiting with

458
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 1: chittabe A Wugia. Many stories about you say that your

459
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 1: first name means God will guide me. Do you take

460
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: that to heart? Oh? I definitely do. And my culture,

461
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: the Ebo culture, this our names me and everything. And

462
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: you know, my brother has a similar name, my mom, dad, sister.

463
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: All of it usually resonates with something to do with God.

464
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: You know, we're very spiritual people. So yeah, I think

465
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: my name prays for me every day and when they

466
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: able to live comfortably. Because you grew up in near

467
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 1: San Jose, California, what were some of the things you

468
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 1: were interested in as a kid. As a kid, I

469
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 1: was very impressionable. I love watching things on YouTube and

470
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 1: just learning about different things, especially dance. You know, where

471
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 1: I grew up, I had a dance called turfing, and

472
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: they had this thing called the Hype movement, and the

473
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: LA had crump and the South had crump, and I

474
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: was interested in just like all the cultures, just everything

475
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: you know that was happening. So I think when I

476
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: was a kid, I was just very impressionable when it

477
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: came to hip hop culture, dance culture. Yeah. So so

478
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 1: if you have a pick six, is there a dance

479
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: in mind for the celebration. I've been thinking, man, I've

480
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: been trying to plan it out already. I got a lot.

481
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta do something honor the African people,

482
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: So I gotta dance it there I gotta do something

483
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: under the area people to dance it there. So yeah,

484
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna plant. I'm playing something out for sure. We're

485
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: chatting with chitabey A Wouje. You attended Oak Grove High School,

486
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: where you ran for more than a thousand yards or

487
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: senior year, but you also blocked ten kicks. How do

488
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 1: you block ten kicks? I mean, honestly, just being an

489
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 1: athlete and then having a good get off, And I

490
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: don't know. I think it was just something I found

491
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: out I was good at thinking my sophomore year in

492
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: high school. I would just rush off the ball real

493
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: fast and then block block punts, kicks, field goals, And yeah,

494
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 1: I wonder why they have me do that more in

495
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: college or NFL. But it's all good. I think I

496
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: sell it in that corner pretty good. So I'm playing

497
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: this for Darren Simmons to make sure that he's aware

498
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: of that. You chose to attend the University of Colorado.

499
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: What did you enjoy most about college? The thing I

500
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: enjoyed most about college was to come Arderie. I got

501
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: to see and be a part of something real special.

502
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 1: Came into a program that I was rebuilding, and by

503
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 1: the time my senior year happened. You know, we started

504
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: to win, ended up being seventh in the rank, seventh

505
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: in the country at one point, and those guys, you know,

506
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: that's something that I think will always hold on to

507
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: just how we had all those experiences that led to

508
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: that point, and that's led us to be great friends.

509
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: Even now to this day. That senior class, I'm blessed

510
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: to play with Josh Tupo, who was on that team.

511
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: We still have that connection and you know, all those

512
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: guys have that connection. So that camaraderie was very something

513
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: that that taught me a lot how to be a team.

514
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: And you know when I got to the NFL in

515
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: your sophomore year, you lacerated your kidney. That's serious stuff.

516
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: How bad was it? It was bad, man, It was

517
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: bad because I didn't understand what it was or the

518
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: severity of it. I guess when I fail, and it happened.

519
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: You know, I just went to the bathroom in the

520
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: locker room, and you know, I started to see blood

521
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: in my us, you know, in my in my pea

522
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: and went back up and I said, Yo, this is happening.

523
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,479
Speaker 1: Took me to the hospital and thank God that they

524
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: took it serious enough to where I was able to

525
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: we're able to diagnose it properly, and you know, that

526
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: helped me out for the last three games with my

527
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: sophomore year. And it was just a real interesting time,

528
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,719
Speaker 1: first time that I really had an injury that kept

529
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: me out of football and I could walk. I mean,

530
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: I could think I could do everything. I just couldn't.

531
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: I had to be careful, you know, and I just

532
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: want I realized that, you know, football is such a

533
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: precious sport to me. I don't want to not play.

534
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: So from that time, I started to be real conscious of,

535
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: you know, every step I take. We're doing fun facts

536
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: with Chitabe Woujia. You were a second round draft pick

537
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: by the Dallas Cowboys in twenty seventeen, and there was

538
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: a memorable moment in the NFL draft history because it

539
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: was in Philadelphia. Cowboys legend Drew Pearson announced the pick

540
00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: and he took the occasion to troll Eagles fans. Are

541
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: you amused or did it kind of detract from your moment? Noah, Man,

542
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm all for the splendor and the and the joy

543
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: and the hate that he got for that too. I

544
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: know drew from that moment I got to know Drew Pearson.

545
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: You know, it's a great guy, great energy, obviously a

546
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame player now who thank God that he

547
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: was able to make it in this year. I know

548
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: it meant a lot to him, and it means a

549
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: lot to me and my family, you know, because we're

550
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: forever tied with that momentum. I think they also, you know,

551
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: put people on notice that they Drew's not in the

552
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame yet, like, let's you know what I'm saying, like,

553
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: let's get him in the Hall of Fame. I think,

554
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: um that that that that just a lot of good

555
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: came from that moment, and I'm glad that I was

556
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: part of it. The Dallas Cowboys are known as America's team.

557
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: Their fan base is really worldwide, not the US wide.

558
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: What was it like to be a Cowboy for four years? Oh?

559
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,479
Speaker 1: It was a blessing. Um. I wouldn't trade it for anything.

560
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: Um that picked me obviously from UH College and that

561
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: moment will always hold hold dirt in me, and those

562
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: moments that I shared with that team will always hold

563
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,719
Speaker 1: there to me. So I'm always thankful for the Dallas Cowboys.

564
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: A lot of my friends were still on that team.

565
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: So I'm a fan of those guys and you know,

566
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: ruin for them for the best. So you became a

567
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: free agent and it sounds like the Bengals really came

568
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: after you with a lot of passion. Yeah. Yeah, I

569
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: think that's one thing that stuck out to me was

570
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: how much they wanted me here and everything that coach Zack,

571
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: coach Lou, coach Jackson, all the guys who I talked to,

572
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: even the front office people, was about the culture here

573
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: that they're starting to get the coachure right, the locker

574
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: rooms good, all this kind of stuff. And when I

575
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: was able to visit here and be here now, it

576
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: all holds true. You know, I really believe that I'm

577
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: in the perfect place right now to be my best

578
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: and hopefully to help this team be their best. So

579
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: I'm real excited for things to come. I'm real comfortable

580
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: here already. You know, the guys are real cool, the

581
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: coaches are cool. So just excited to get this stand

582
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: rolland all right, a few non football topics to wrap

583
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: things up with. Chittobey Wouje, you are an avid chess player.

584
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: How did that start and what you enjoy by chess.

585
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: So chess started in college when me and my teammates

586
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: slash peers in my class. It used to be kind

587
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: of bored in class. We had our laptops out, and

588
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: you know, during a subject that maybe we knew about already,

589
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: we would play some chess, you know, virtually on our laptops,

590
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: and it is real competitive, and you didn't want to lose,

591
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: because if you lose, chess kind of makes you feel

592
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: like something smarter than you, and that that doesn't really

593
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: feel going when you know that something smarter than you.

594
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: So we would compete there and then it kind of

595
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: died down. And then when I got to the Cowboys,

596
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: there was a couple of chess players and again real competitive,

597
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: don't want to lose. And I think I fostered a

598
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: lot of relationships through chess. I've learned a lot about life,

599
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: how to put things in order. You don't want to

600
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: lose your queen. You want to lose obviously, don't want

601
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: to lose the game by losing your king. You know,

602
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: the rook's worth more than the pond and the bishop

603
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: in the night. But each piece moves, you know, in

604
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: great symmetry. To um have a full team basically, so, Um,

605
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: I think it's helped me articulate and put things in

606
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: order very well. Are you the grand Master of the

607
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: Bengals locker room. I wouldn't disrespect the name grand Master

608
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: up I put in my name next to it, but

609
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: I will say that I don't think anyone can beat

610
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: me on this team. So yeah, all right. If you

611
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: could meet anyone in history, athlete, actor, statesman, politician, whatever

612
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: it might be, who would that be. That's a very

613
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: deep question, um. To be honest, the first name of

614
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: POPTI my mind was Muhammad Ali. But as you finished

615
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: the question, I think my real answer would probably Jesus.

616
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: I think that would mean that I made it to heaven.

617
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: It should be a good thing, So I think, yeah,

618
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: those would be. That was my first reaction, and when

619
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: I got my thoughts together, it was like, yeah, Jesus,

620
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: two great answers. Last thing, what's the all time worst

621
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: mispronunciation of chittlebay wuje? Dang? It's been a lot, man.

622
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: I'll say this. One time someone couldn't say my name

623
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: in elementary school that instead of calling me chuddle Bay,

624
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: they called me cheddar bay biscuits. So that was my

625
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: nickname for that guy called me Cheddar Bay biscuits from

626
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: Red Lobster, So hey, you should get an endorsement deal out.

627
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: Hey man, I enjoyed them. They are good. Yeah, yeah,

628
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: they are really good. They're really good. So is this.

629
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Speaker 1: I appreciate your time. Have a great season. Appreciate it.

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