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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, Mark, this is check Lies Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: And now the guy who originally posted pizza Rat, J P. Shadre,

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Speaker 1: we might be posting a new one at this rate.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: My name's J. P. Shadrick. We've got a program for

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Speaker 1: you today, busy show ahead. Jaguars analyst Jeff Loghman coming up.

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Speaker 1: He's in studio with a free agency review. He has

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Speaker 1: been doing a deep dive into the tape and he'll

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Speaker 1: have some answers on what these new free agents bring

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Speaker 1: to the table. We'll hear from Pro Football Focus Director

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Speaker 1: of Content Austin Gale, coming up at four thirty. PFF

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Speaker 1: has a podcast series coming out in April following Aiden

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Speaker 1: Hutchinson through his run at Michigan, with over fifty interviews

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Speaker 1: involved in this podcast series. We'll hear from Austin and

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Speaker 1: get his take on putting that together at least so far,

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Speaker 1: and maybe some other thoughts about the NFL Draft, and

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Speaker 1: we'll go around the NFL. Another week of big time,

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Speaker 1: massive moves in the NFL involving a couple of quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Wide receivers are moving now and there are draft picks

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Speaker 1: and money flying all over the place. Jeff log i'men

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Speaker 1: joining us now and we've got a Twitter poll today.

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Speaker 1: We want your input on this logs. UM did this

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Speaker 1: earlier today on the Twitter poll. Yeah at j P Shadrick.

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Speaker 1: Check out the Twitter poll. It was a conversation. Vote

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Speaker 1: not on my phone. You have a phone of your own.

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Speaker 1: You can do it on your own. I know you're

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Speaker 1: a big Twitter guy. So we had a conversation in

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Speaker 1: the office today. Maybe you have some insight to this. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know the move the change chan at the game

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars games, move the chains, moved the chains, moved

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Speaker 1: the chains. What is the word at the end? The

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Speaker 1: options are move them? Uh, who are or huh? And

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Speaker 1: right now we've got four votes of them say move them.

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Speaker 1: But there's a caveat here. A bunch of responses say

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Speaker 1: it's just move single word move. What do you think

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Speaker 1: there's a chant at the stadium move those chains, move

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Speaker 1: the chains, moved the chains, whatever. Move. I've never heard that. Well,

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Speaker 1: you have headsets on. Probably you're working. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: that's why maybe part of the problem. Maybe I should

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Speaker 1: in your Twitter poll. Well, I mean you can. You

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Speaker 1: can participate. So you're asking me what I think? What

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Speaker 1: do you think it is? Well, if you haven't, he

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Speaker 1: am I trying to. Here's the thing is it is

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Speaker 1: it is an opinion or is it a trivia question?

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Speaker 1: I think it's an opinion because apparently there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of different people who do it a lot of different ways.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying, move those chains, move those chains, move

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Speaker 1: saying at it. I'm in here, sounds outside move Yeah, okay, great, thanks,

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Speaker 1: lugs appreciate it. So are we? Are we having this

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Speaker 1: as part of the open of our show so that

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Speaker 1: we can promote your own Twitter account? Okay, if it's

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Speaker 1: good for me, it's good for me. Where the hell's

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Speaker 1: this going? Yes? I work with Pete Priscoe too much.

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Speaker 1: That's what happens you work with Pete. So that's why

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Speaker 1: do I need to start having Twitter polls on my handle?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's your account. You can do whatever the

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Speaker 1: hell you want. Right, Maybe I'll do that JP. I'll

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Speaker 1: I'll do some JP trivia to actually be opinion. I'll

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Speaker 1: draw the man. Let's get to it. I'm gonna ask

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Speaker 1: you a question, where did this chant originate from? I

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Speaker 1: think they've been doing it here since like day one. Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: some fans, where did it originate from? Oh? I have

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Speaker 1: and what were the other options? Just real quick, because

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Speaker 1: now that I understand the question fullyright, move them? Uh?

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Speaker 1: like the term deep dive. Okay, it brings up bad

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Speaker 1: of them all. Christian Kirk came in for thirty seven

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Speaker 1: million gear and tee dollars. Former second round pick out

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Speaker 1: of an m by the Cardinals, seventeen career touchdowns, but

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Speaker 1: He can throw the ball. Yes, he can throw the ball. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So don't be surprised if they incorporate a Jacksonville Special

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Speaker 1: think it's a real good signing from the standpoint. Did

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Speaker 1: you overpay him, Yes, but you got a really good

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Speaker 1: And on top of that, he is a willing blocker.

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Speaker 1: when you're in free agency. Peterson of course, said that

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Speaker 1: strength is change of direction, separation. Uh, you know, the

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Speaker 1: And UH, and the one thing that Christian Kirk does too,

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Speaker 1: Jaguar Dot Comedy. But but but I'm not saying my

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Speaker 1: some excellent receipt Jander Hopkins, A J. Green was still there, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because it was a fourth and five situation. Games on

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Christian Kirk releases and it appears

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Speaker 1: I just remember going, there's no way that this guy

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Speaker 1: And so guys that typically are that are born and

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Speaker 1: and that's obviously through film study. I think it's gonna

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Speaker 1: Not the same you know, don't think you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: Austin Gale of Pro Football Focus joins us previewing an

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Speaker 1: upcoming Aidan Hutchinson podcast series on PFF. And this is

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour or the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour Thursday afternoon. J P. Shadrick with

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Speaker 1: Jeff Loghman. Glad you're along with us. Today we've discussed

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Speaker 1: the free agent additions for the Jacksonville Jaguars, at least

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Speaker 1: the Big seven. The first seven logs film for the

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Speaker 1: little bit we haven't we have gotten him to him

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Speaker 1: too much, not too much. We've got some time for

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Speaker 1: that to that coming up in just a little bit.

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Speaker 1: We got through the wide receivers, the tight ends, of course,

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Speaker 1: the defensive additions for the Jaguars. Let's switch gears, now

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Speaker 1: loogs and go looking forward. Five weeks from tonight, the

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft gets underway in Las Vegas. The Jaguars, if

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Speaker 1: you haven't heard, have the number one overall pick. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to online and a special guest joining us now

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Speaker 1: from Pro Football Focus, Austin Gale, director of content for PFF,

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Speaker 1: launching a four episode podcast series entitled hutch in April,

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Speaker 1: and yes that hutch is Aiden Hutchinson. First off, Austin,

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Speaker 1: thanks for the time. How you doing doing great man?

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, Yeah, no doubt so. For interviewing

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Speaker 1: all these people around Aiden Hutchinson in his time in Michigan,

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Speaker 1: it's been you know, a little bit of rocky road.

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Speaker 1: He was banged up, a little bit, missed some time,

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Speaker 1: comes back last year he's a Heisman finalist. Um, you

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Speaker 1: know how many people did you have to interview for

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Speaker 1: this podcast series? Yeah? I mean I wouldn't say have

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Speaker 1: and a lot of these have been set up by

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Speaker 1: our director Communications, David. So far. We also went to

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Speaker 1: the University of Michigan, so that process has been made

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Speaker 1: easier by him. But we've interviewed over fifty people, right,

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Speaker 1: We've been over fifty people talking to everyone we possibly

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Speaker 1: can to help tell Aidan Hutchinson's story, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of it has been awesome and so consistent as well.

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Speaker 1: We're just the type of player and the type of

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Speaker 1: human being Aidan Hutchinson is. I've interviewed pretty much every

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Speaker 1: member of his nuclear family, a lot of media, a

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Speaker 1: lot of draft analysts, a lot of players that he

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Speaker 1: played with, pretty pay Um, you know, Julius welsh Off,

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Speaker 1: his roommate there at Michigan. It's been really, really fun

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Speaker 1: just finding out who Aidan Hutchinson is, right because everyone

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Speaker 1: talks about him. He's just projected number one overall pick,

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Speaker 1: potentially a future Jacksonville Jaguar, and I really wanted to

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Speaker 1: dig into the type of player. He is, the guy

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Speaker 1: on and off the field, and he's had, you know,

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Speaker 1: a wild story comes to Michigan, as a four star

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Speaker 1: recruit where in the same jersey his dad did at

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Speaker 1: the University of Michigan up to live a legacy with

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Speaker 1: Utchinson as his last name, and from there plays right away,

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Speaker 1: does not burn a red shirt year, plays in that

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Speaker 1: Don Brown defense, up and down with with Shawn Gary

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Speaker 1: Quite pay, Chase Winnivitch, Josh h Cha finally has this

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Speaker 1: opportunity to be the guy on campus in COVID abbreviated season,

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Speaker 1: also gets hurt, breaks his ankle six snaps into the

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Speaker 1: Indiana game and ultimately was gonna make a decision to

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Speaker 1: go to the NFL Draft instead. With the injury and

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Speaker 1: with the COVID abbreviated season, knew he had more to prove.

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Speaker 1: Came back for his senior season in well, the rest

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Speaker 1: is history, but he probably made himself a lot more money.

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Speaker 1: Austin and uh And by the way, out of all

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Speaker 1: these fifty interviews that you conduct, by the way, you know,

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Speaker 1: this is really kind of a vetting process. If you

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Speaker 1: find out any blemish whatsoever, please let us know so

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Speaker 1: that we can pass that on to the people here

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Speaker 1: that make those decisions. Because when you invest the kind

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Speaker 1: of money that the Jaguars are gonna invest in the

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Speaker 1: first overall pick. You gotta know everything. I haven't found

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Speaker 1: a blemish yet. I'll say that it's been tough to

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Speaker 1: it this mom for an hour, all these different draft analysts,

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Speaker 1: all these coaches. Right. Some of the more fascinating interviews

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Speaker 1: that I've done have been talking to coaches that have

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Speaker 1: coached against him. I talked to the offensive coordinator for

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Speaker 1: the University of Watchington that he went toe to toe

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Speaker 1: within week two and said, I don't know what to do.

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Speaker 1: You talked to Western Michigan who played him in week one,

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Speaker 1: was watching Baltimore Ravens film to get a read on

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Speaker 1: the defensive pointer to Mike McDonald's offense or defense, and

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Speaker 1: he said, I didn't know what to do. We tried

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Speaker 1: to run away from We try and chip, we try

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Speaker 1: to do all these things. And he's a very difficult

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Speaker 1: player to game plan for. And that's what I found

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Speaker 1: out time and time again talking to these opponent coaches.

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Speaker 1: I think my favorite interview has probably been penn Stay

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Speaker 1: offensive line coach Philip trout Wine talking to him about

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Speaker 1: what are you telling your offensive tackles to do? When

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Speaker 1: you're get in these situations with Aidian Hudsons, they don't

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Speaker 1: block him one on one. Right, You're gonna need a

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Speaker 1: tight end. You're gonna need a running back. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: need to run the football far and far away from

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Speaker 1: Maiden Hutchinson. Yeah, Austin, you know, I played the position

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Speaker 1: somewhat because he's a stand up more of a stand

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Speaker 1: up type of a guy. And when I was in college,

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Speaker 1: I was a stand up middle linebacker. But when I

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Speaker 1: was in the pros, I was a defensive end. So

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Speaker 1: I watched that position with great interest, and and watching

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Speaker 1: the film on Aiden Hutchinson, I can't find as a

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Speaker 1: guy that played that position. I can't find anything that

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Speaker 1: he does not do well. I don't find any weakness.

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Speaker 1: I don't see any weakness. He's got a tremendous motor.

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Speaker 1: He uh excels in every situation, whether it's something that

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Speaker 1: requires speed, stamina, strength, he does everything exceptionally well. And

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Speaker 1: so many different people probably want to type cast him

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Speaker 1: into a four or three or a three four at PFF.

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Speaker 1: What do you guys think he is gonna be or

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Speaker 1: where he should be. I think he can play both

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Speaker 1: positions really well. Whether his hands in the ground or

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Speaker 1: it's up. It's kind of up to him and the

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Speaker 1: team that wants to play him. Talking to his agent

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Speaker 1: and talking to Aiden specifically, so he kind of prefers

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Speaker 1: playing with his hand out of the ground, but he said,

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Speaker 1: I'll do whatever it takes. I'll play nose tackle in

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Speaker 1: the NFL if that's what I have to do, if

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Speaker 1: that's a team asked me to do. I do think

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Speaker 1: he's best on the edge and being able to pin

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Speaker 1: his ear back and pin his ears back and rush

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Speaker 1: the pastor with a hand out of the ground. I

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Speaker 1: think that's what's been and really really where he's had

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Speaker 1: in that facility. I think you're a hundred per set right.

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Speaker 1: You hit the nail on the head. I'm just like

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Speaker 1: the type of player he is. He's a complete player.

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Speaker 1: Talking to head coach Jim Harbaugh, he just checks every

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Speaker 1: single box. Athleticism, intangibles, production, measurables, all these different boxes

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Speaker 1: you need to check to be a numbered overall pick,

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Speaker 1: to be a top five pick in the NFL. It's

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Speaker 1: exactly what Aidan Hutchinson checks there at the University of Michigan.

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Speaker 1: There's strength and conditioning coach Ben Herbert, who's been there since,

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Speaker 1: has molded Aidan Hutchinson's body. They test forty one different

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Speaker 1: key key performance indicators or KPI is like neck inflection,

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Speaker 1: hip abduction, all these different things. He is a plus

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Speaker 1: across the board, the best they've seen over the last

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Speaker 1: two years. Aidan Hutchinson is the freak of nature coming

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Speaker 1: out of Michigan. Austin Gale with us from Pro Football Focus.

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Speaker 1: I don't even want to know what I would grade

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Speaker 1: on those logs. I can't, I can't. You wouldn't do

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Speaker 1: very well, probably would do very well. You know, there

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Speaker 1: are there's a lot of Georgia people around here, Austin, right,

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Speaker 1: So what we hear a lot from at least the

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Speaker 1: Georgia fans is Oh, the Georgia offensive line ran this

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Speaker 1: guy over. What was his response his camps response to

644
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: that game? And it's really just one game and he

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Speaker 1: can't really judge it on one performance in one postseason game,

646
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Speaker 1: can't you. I feel Aiden's response to that game, specifically

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Speaker 1: where he knows he's gotten a lot of criticism, has

648
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Speaker 1: been spectacular and that he knows he did not play

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00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: a perfect game and that one, but also understands that

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Speaker 1: Kirby Smart and Todd Monk and the opposite coordinaty there

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Speaker 1: for the University of Georgia specifically created a game plan

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Speaker 1: to where Aidan Hutchinson and the other edge there David Jaba,

653
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Speaker 1: would not beat them right. A lot of quick game

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Speaker 1: got the ball out, quickly ran away from them to

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Speaker 1: really make sure that Aidan Hudson couldn't take over the

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Speaker 1: game like we saw in that Ohio state when they

657
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Speaker 1: had an inn arbor. And talking to draft analyst Dame

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Speaker 1: Brugler of The Athletic, Bucky Brooks of NFL Media, Daniel Jeremiah,

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Speaker 1: everyone has the same reaction when you go back and

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Speaker 1: watch it all point two. If anything, Georgia tipped their cap.

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Speaker 1: The Aidan Hutchinson showed a huge sign of respect to

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Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson with how they game plan to make sure

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Speaker 1: they he couldn't beat them right, and now you could

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Speaker 1: have had a better game there. Obviously is that play

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Speaker 1: against Mary Salier where he gets put on his butt,

666
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Speaker 1: But like that, in my opinion, is is an overreaction

667
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Speaker 1: or recency bias to say that knocks him down a

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Speaker 1: peg or whatever. I've also talked to Mary Salier that

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Speaker 1: left tackle there for George and he even speaks to

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Speaker 1: just the dominance that Aidan Hutchinson was and how hard

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Speaker 1: it was to prepare for a player like him. All Right, Austin, PFF,

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Speaker 1: I think does a great job with the National Football

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Speaker 1: League throughout the year. Love your guys stuff, find ways

674
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Speaker 1: to get different pieces of information, and uh, it's very valuable.

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Speaker 1: P F also does kind of a ranking if I

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Speaker 1: am correct, about the prospects that are coming out in

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Speaker 1: the draft class this year, and Aidan Hutchinson is he

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Speaker 1: at the top, And if you wouldn't mind, please share

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Speaker 1: the top five that you have in order, let's go. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson right now is the best player on PFF

681
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Speaker 1: draft board and for good reason. Right he is a

682
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Speaker 1: phenomenal player, like I said, checks all these different boxes

683
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Speaker 1: that we want to check when we see a player

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Speaker 1: that's production, measurables, intangibles, athletics is him. It's exactly what

685
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Speaker 1: he is. Forty one different kpi is there at the

686
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Speaker 1: University of Michigan, according to strength and conditioning coach Ben Herbert,

687
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Speaker 1: and he's a seen every single one. Number two player

688
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Speaker 1: on PFF. Strafford is Notre Dame safety Cal Hamilton's. There

689
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Speaker 1: are people that think Cal Hamilton's might fall outside the

690
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Speaker 1: top eight, outside the top ten. I don't know who

691
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Speaker 1: those people are, but they're wrong. Call Hamilton's is a

692
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Speaker 1: freak of nature. Yeah, he doesn't play a high value

693
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Speaker 1: position when you look at how much safeties are paid

694
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. He's two dang good to fall much

695
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Speaker 1: further past eight with the Atlanta Falcons. I think there's

696
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Speaker 1: a legitimate chance he goes number two to the Detroit Lines.

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Speaker 1: I think that's how good how Hamilton's is. At number three,

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Speaker 1: we actually have Derek Stickley Jr. Of l s U,

699
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Speaker 1: which a lot of that is a projection, right, he

700
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Speaker 1: has not had the year or the years that we've

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Speaker 1: expected from him since he had that insane true freshman

702
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Speaker 1: season for l s U in tween nineteen. But what

703
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Speaker 1: he is and what he can be if fully healthy,

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Speaker 1: I do think it's truly special. At number four, it's

705
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Speaker 1: the second best edge defender in this class. In my opinion,

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Speaker 1: it's Cavon Thibodeaux of the University of Oregon. I do

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Speaker 1: think that a lot of the narrative around Cavon Thibodeau

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Speaker 1: is is exasperate. It's it's exaggerated to a degree. I

709
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Speaker 1: think that he's a very confident player and he believes

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Speaker 1: in himself. And while he does have interests outside of football,

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Speaker 1: I think he's a really good football player too. I

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Speaker 1: think what he can be in the NFL could be

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Speaker 1: as special is Aidan Hutchinson. Right. He has all the tools,

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Speaker 1: he has all the measurables. I'd be absolutely forward if

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Speaker 1: he makes it pass to Jets at number four overall

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Speaker 1: and then at number five. Kind of surprised to a

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Speaker 1: lot of people, but we have Charles Cross. The Mississippi

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Speaker 1: State offensive tackle is not just the best OFFICI tackle

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Speaker 1: in this class, but the number five overall player. Guy

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Speaker 1: that's graded super well for PF as a pass protector

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Speaker 1: in that mike Ye Johnshans Atmisific Mississippi State and another

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Speaker 1: guy too that is a very smooth moving athlete at

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Speaker 1: the position. I agree with with your rankings, with the

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Speaker 1: exception of your number five, I would change the tackle

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Speaker 1: from MENSI State and put him at number five. I

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Speaker 1: love that Ikey Kwana is my guy. I'm a huge

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Speaker 1: fan of Iki Kwana VNSY State, who's the highest grade

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Speaker 1: of run blocking opfiteve tackle according to PF this past season.

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Speaker 1: And everyone talks about Trevor Penning, right, Trevor Penning the

730
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Speaker 1: University of Northern Iowa OFFICI tackle being this nasty, gritty player.

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Speaker 1: Ikey Kanu is exactly that man. He doesn't have to

732
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Speaker 1: he just doesn't have the penalties that Trevor Penning does have.

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Speaker 1: I think Conner doesn't get enough credit for how nasty

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Speaker 1: of a player he is. I think there's room to

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Speaker 1: improve as a past protector, but it's another really explosive

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Speaker 1: athlete that has vastly, vastly improved of the course of

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Speaker 1: his career at NC States. Another player I've talked to Autan.

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Speaker 1: He has the same agency, same marketing agency, Radian Sports

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Speaker 1: with Aidan Hutchinson, a guy that I've talked to a ton.

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Speaker 1: Aiden has talked to a ton in this process. A

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Speaker 1: super nice guy that I do think has all the

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Speaker 1: tools on and off the field to develop into a

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Speaker 1: phenomenal player in the NFL. Austin Gale from Pro Football Focus.

744
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Speaker 1: The podcast series is entitled hutch Following Aiden Hutchinson through

745
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Speaker 1: his journey at Michigan. When does it drop? When's the

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Speaker 1: first one come out? Austin? That will be scheduled for

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Speaker 1: April two or excited at least all episodes on the

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Speaker 1: in April. Okay, all four in one day, I mean,

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Speaker 1: not one. This is this is a Stranger Things drop here.

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Speaker 1: This is a Netflix style drop. We're going all in

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Speaker 1: here making sure you guys can you guys? Can you

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Speaker 1: guys can binge watch all night long with the popcorn?

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Speaker 1: All right? Give him a follow Austin Gale, Thanks for

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Speaker 1: the time and thanks for the insight. We'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you again down the line. Absolutely, thank you, Austin Gale

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguar's Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: and if you're watching us on Jaguar's YouTube Twitter, it's

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Speaker 1: the County Landfill. Oh no, no no, no, no no. It

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Speaker 1: is the foot front of the Football Performance Center outside

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Speaker 1: t i A bank field and it's muddy. Let's put

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Speaker 1: it that way. It's been raining for two days straight.

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Speaker 1: There's not a lot of work being done today, a

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Speaker 1: lot of sitting around and waiting for the sun to

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Speaker 1: shine again and things to dry up. They have poured

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Speaker 1: some concrete, some foundational work over the last week. The

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Speaker 1: County Landfill. I mean, you've got a lot of dirt

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Speaker 1: and you've got a lot of holes and piles of dirt,

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Speaker 1: and so, I mean, I'm not trying to be funny

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Speaker 1: or anything. I'm just saying at first, when you look

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Speaker 1: at it, you got equipment and a bunch of stuff

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Speaker 1: laying around, So it doesn't look exactly like it's any

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Speaker 1: kind of gonna go, know, any direction. Well, I think

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Speaker 1: it is supposed to be open for business in training camps,

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Speaker 1: so it got a little while to watch it grow. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but here's the thing. You know, it's gonna be interesting

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Speaker 1: to see the time frame because you're trying to get

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Speaker 1: this ready for But look also, you're you're on a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a deadline as far as getting some

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Speaker 1: fields back up and ready and ready to go for

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Speaker 1: a season in two So I mean, how is all

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Speaker 1: of that gonna work? I mean, I'm not on the

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Speaker 1: on the planning board of that, but I would be

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Speaker 1: curious to know at some point, how are they gonna

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Speaker 1: you know, because you have the indoor facility, you have

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Speaker 1: the field here inside of the stadium, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: obviously they will use some some of those components to

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Speaker 1: get them through some of the stages they're gonna be happening,

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Speaker 1: but by training camp you would think that that, Okay,

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Speaker 1: those fields need to be ready, and hopefully they will be.

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Speaker 1: Let's uh here from of all people, Fred Taylor. He

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Speaker 1: was a surprise guest yesterday morning on Good Morning Football

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Speaker 1: on NFL Network. It was Maurice Jones Drew's birthday yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Take a listen. I remember Fred before all the media stuff.

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Speaker 1: Now he's a media mogul. You know I had listen.

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Speaker 1: I just want to know when can I get on

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Speaker 1: the Pivot. I want I don't you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to be like a b and put the mask on.

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Speaker 1: I just want to sit back and chill, maybe have

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Speaker 1: some koon yak is something and kick back, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean talking you know whatever it is. I

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Speaker 1: got your birthday bottle on deck. Uh. You know our

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Speaker 1: schedules Din allow us to carouse paths when you were

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Speaker 1: just recently here in South Florida. But we'll we'll get

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Speaker 1: it lined up. Certainly, we'd love to have you on

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Speaker 1: this show, Fred Taylor. Of course, Sarah cost on Postgame

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Speaker 1: Radio and has fairly recently started a new podcast. Ryan

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Speaker 1: Clark is a part of that as well, called The Pivot.

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Speaker 1: It's on their YouTube channel and they do a great job.

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Speaker 1: They just had a smith. A couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: they had Antonio brown on the show. I mean they

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Speaker 1: get some big time names that come in and sit down.

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Speaker 1: It's three guys interviewing the one. It's having having an

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Speaker 1: Antonio Browns a little bit of a clown show. It

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Speaker 1: was something that was quite an episode. But anyway, so

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Speaker 1: that was good to see on on NFL network yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Let's go around the NFL. Let's do that. Let's there's

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Speaker 1: been a big money a lot of people moving around

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Speaker 1: the NFL, including DeShawn Watson. Big money with the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 1: How about that. I just think it's it's crazy. I

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Speaker 1: I can't see how a team would commit that much

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Speaker 1: and guaranteed money to a player that has this this

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Speaker 1: cloud of suspicion, this unresolved civil cases, slash, unresolved possible

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Speaker 1: indictment in a different county besides Houston, the second grand

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Speaker 1: jury that could charge him. That story came out just

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Speaker 1: a few hours. I think it just it just goes

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Speaker 1: to show you that you'll do anything to get a

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Speaker 1: quarterback and how important that position is, including making maybe

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Speaker 1: a deal with the devil. And I'm not saying he's

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Speaker 1: the devil. I'm just saying is that you can't guarantee

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Speaker 1: that kind of money for a player that that that

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Speaker 1: has those issues, in my opinion, shocking the player who

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Speaker 1: does not have those issues as Matt Ryan. He's heading

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Speaker 1: to the Indianapolis Colts after fourteen years in Atlanta. Of course,

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Speaker 1: has an m v P Trophy. He was three lead

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Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl that slipped away as they kept

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Speaker 1: throwing the football around. But Matt Ryan, after that really

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Speaker 1: nice career in Atlanta. Let's let's see if Indy um

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Speaker 1: it's the move INDI needs. Well, they guaranteed the rest

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Speaker 1: of his contract. I'm not happy about that because I

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Speaker 1: think the Colts have seriously upgraded their quarterback position from

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. I was kind of hope and that they

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Speaker 1: would be stuck in no quarterback later, but kudos to

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Speaker 1: them for because Matt Ryan. Obviously, with the situation with

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons courtship of Deshaun Watson themselves, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: that the ship had sailed when it came to Matt

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Speaker 1: Ryan and uh and he's as good of a quarterback

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Speaker 1: as you could get at this point of the game.

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Speaker 1: So the one guy that's kind of still floating out

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Speaker 1: there now is Baker Mayfield. I think he is the

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Speaker 1: next quarterback domino to fall at some point, but where

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I think that's a great question. Seattle. Possibly, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: possibly Seattle. I think that would be a good fit

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Speaker 1: for for him. Uh. The reports are people are saying

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Speaker 1: that Baker Mayfield needed a big slice of humble pie.

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Speaker 1: Could this be it for Baker Mayfield? They felt that

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Speaker 1: he was getting a little bit too big for his

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Speaker 1: bridges in Cleveland and uh needs a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a dose of reality. Well this is certainly a big

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Speaker 1: dose of reality because they gave a guy that has

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Speaker 1: a big cloud over his head a ton of guaranteed money.

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Speaker 1: And Uh, the Indianapolis Colts, who who Baker Mayfield wanted

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Speaker 1: to be traded to traded for Matt Ryan. So if

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Speaker 1: that doesn't do it, I don't know what else would.

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Speaker 1: And then Tyreek Hill to the Dolphins money? How about

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Speaker 1: this scain big money? I mean the draft picks that

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Speaker 1: the Browns gave up for Deshaun Watson, the draft picks

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Speaker 1: that the Miami Dolphins gave up for Tyree Hill, and

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Speaker 1: then not to mention the amount of money that they're

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Speaker 1: having to pay these guys. It's it's that there There

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Speaker 1: has never been a free agent period in NFL history

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Speaker 1: like this year. Never. Never. The quarterback position almost never

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Speaker 1: changes shape, and it changed across the league this year.

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Speaker 1: Big name players, big name players changing team and they're

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Speaker 1: all coming to the a f C to be and

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Speaker 1: it's and it's not. It's not as if these are

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Speaker 1: free agent moves. These are are guys in our contract

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Speaker 1: that are getting traded away. Like Tom Brady comes back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he's bad, and that was That's like way down

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Speaker 1: the list of storyline. It's really it's just faded into

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Speaker 1: oblivion now with all the recent happenings. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: the Rams model though, right they they said forget them picks,

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Speaker 1: except use a different word, and you can say that

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Speaker 1: when you stink at picking. If you're good at picking,

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Speaker 1: keep the picks. And the key is that you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be like the Ravens, the Patriots, the Steelers, the teams

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Speaker 1: that are perennial winners. Oh, by the way, what do

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Speaker 1: they do. They take the picks and they pick good

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Speaker 1: player development. Okay, so if you want to be a winner,

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Speaker 1: year after year after year. Keep those picks and make

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Speaker 1: good selections. Yeah, better look around the NFL our thanks

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Speaker 1: to and it's crazy, crazy Tyree. And here's here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about two guys that don't exactly have pristine backgrounds.

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Speaker 1: And DeShawn Watson has the big cloud of suspicion over

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Speaker 1: his head, Tyreek Kill. Let's not forget not long ago

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Speaker 1: had a major issue. There was a couple of infidences

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Speaker 1: in his past. Yes, So, and these guys are getting

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Speaker 1: the kind of contracts that they are. Wow, what you

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Speaker 1: got this week? Clogs? What's coming up? You got the

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Speaker 1: video series? When's that happening? Uh? Next week we're probably

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Speaker 1: gonna do some filming. And so in the next couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks, some uh some video stuff on the free agents.

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Speaker 1: And then you know, I started watching some of the prospects. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson watched him, Thibodeau watched him. That we can

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Speaker 1: talk about them at some point. Your guy from Alabama,

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Speaker 1: the left tackle Evan Neil, who I'm not a big

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Speaker 1: fan of. I don't think he is. Even in the

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Speaker 1: car versation about being the first overall pick of the draft.

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Speaker 1: Cross from Mississippi State and uh and I don't want

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Speaker 1: to say his name, the guy from NT statement Ikwana. Alright,

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Speaker 1: that'll do it. We'll got three more shows until the draft.

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Speaker 1: And for Joe Fortunado, Brent Reeber and Jeff Logoman, I'm J. P. Shadrick.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Tejaguars Happy Hour on the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Digital Network.