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Speaker 2: To the Black Guy Who Tips podcast, I listen because

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Speaker 2: Rod and Karen are hot. Judging from the man about

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Speaker 2: to enter the White House. Democrats in the main agree

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Speaker 2: with Obama. Democrats are embarrassingly enough a party of moderates

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Speaker 2: who want change and aren't terribly snappy. But on the

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Speaker 2: far right, attacking Obama has become the means of proving

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Speaker 2: your moral purity and radical convictions. When far left politics

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Speaker 2: are criticized. The members of the squad Beyricka's first responders,

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Speaker 2: and sure enough they passed through to Twitter, organizing a

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Speaker 2: firing line and started shooting. Il Han Omar. We lose

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Speaker 2: people in the hands of police. It's not a slogan

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Speaker 2: but a policy demand. Rashida Talib Rosa Parks was vilified

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Speaker 2: and attacked for her civil disobedience.

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Speaker 3: She was targeted.

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Speaker 2: It's hard seeing that same people who uplift her courage

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Speaker 2: attack the Movement for Black Lives that wants us to

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Speaker 2: prioritize health, funding of schools, and ending poverty rather than

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Speaker 2: racist police systems. Ayanna Presley. The murders of generations of

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Speaker 2: unarmed black folks by police have been horrific. Lives are

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Speaker 2: a stake daily, So I'm out of patience with critiques

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Speaker 2: of the language of activists. Whatever a grieving family says,

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Speaker 2: it's their truth. I'll never stop fighting for their justice

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Speaker 2: and healing. Alexandria Acasio Cortez. The thing that critics of

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Speaker 2: activists don't get is that they tried playing the polite

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Speaker 2: language policy game and it did. All it did was

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Speaker 2: make them easier to ignore.

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Speaker 3: Apparently.

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Speaker 2: Obama's remarks on Snapchat have revealed his indifference to police

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Speaker 2: killings and racist policies, his callousness toward grieving families, and

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Speaker 2: his unwillingness to believe the testimony of the bereave he

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Speaker 2: had rejected. The Movement for Black Lives, shown his moral

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Speaker 2: and political cowardice, and demonstrated his refusal to prioritize health,

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Speaker 2: and especially low blow considering the many wonderful years of

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Speaker 2: his life that he spent on delivering Obamacare and to

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Speaker 2: fund schools seven billion of eight years over eight years.

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Speaker 2: Most monstrous, however, was that what he had done to

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Speaker 2: the memory of Rosa Parks, although perhaps for the best,

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Speaker 2: it was not entirely clear what exactly he had done

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Speaker 2: to it.

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Speaker 3: In other words, the squad's response was.

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Speaker 2: Absurd and had no connection to any commonly agreed upon

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Speaker 2: standard of reality. No one on earth can possibly believe

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Speaker 2: Barack Obama doesn't care about gun violence, racism, or human suffering.

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Speaker 2: What the fight was really about, as both Presley and

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Speaker 2: AOC observed, was language. Obama was questioning the political expediency

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Speaker 2: of theirs, and they were policing his. He was interested

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Speaker 2: in rhetoric. He was interested in rhetoric. They were interested

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Speaker 2: in mounting the you can't say that defense. How has

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Speaker 2: it come to this, to a national conversation on urgent

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Speaker 2: matters being reduced to what Wittgenstein would have called language games.

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Speaker 2: How can one could one man making a simple assertion

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Speaker 2: about real politics be so wildly wilfully misinterpreted because when

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Speaker 2: the inside joke of critical theory escaped the English Department

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Speaker 2: it convinced several generations that human experience can be understood

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Speaker 2: only in terms of who is powerful and who was oppressed.

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Speaker 2: It was all fun and games when every undergraduate was

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Speaker 2: unpacking this and deconstructing that, but it ended the way

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Speaker 2: language can be used and understood. The powerful sale former

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Speaker 2: president can have their words, listening to and taking that

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Speaker 2: face value. They want all the free speech they can get.

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Speaker 2: The oppressed are forced to play a different language game.

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Speaker 2: The reason that so many people interpreted Obama's comments as

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Speaker 2: an attack was that defund the police is a phrase

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Speaker 2: with shifting meanings. It's an expression of profound frustration in sorrow.

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Speaker 2: It's a policy proposal from the nineteen sixties involved in

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Speaker 2: redistributing a city's budget so it has fewer cops and

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Speaker 2: wrote the article what language games are the defunders playing?

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Speaker 2: The national conversation about police reform has devolved into a

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Speaker 2: never any argument over words. I read this, I sent

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Speaker 3: This is exactly what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: And it's not something that just like villifies the squad

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Speaker 2: rewards what this turned into. And it's not just the squad,

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Speaker 2: and be one of these motherfuckers. They define their realness

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Speaker 3: It's be like, I'm so woke, Obama.

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Speaker 2: Ain't shit, you know, and that that translates into everything

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Speaker 3: The other day they released he released Uh.

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Speaker 2: He did an interview because he's promoting his book, and

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Speaker 2: one of the questions was, hey, give us your five

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Speaker 3: He the like, the list was good to me.

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Speaker 2: It was you know, I mean, the autobiography of Malcolm

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Speaker 2: X was on there.

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Speaker 3: Like I mean like it was.

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Speaker 2: It was like the book list was like okay, Like

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Speaker 2: I would never expect the president to ever list these

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Speaker 2: on in their list of ten, I would have said, nah,

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Speaker 2: that's never gonna happen in America.

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Speaker 5: Even if he thought it, he would have gave another

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Speaker 5: So it's one of those things where he could have

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, yeah, it's not just that, but I mean.

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Speaker 2: Everything he does is sending a message, right, And so

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Speaker 2: just what about this book that didn't get picked? Five

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Speaker 2: books to define all of America? Right? So I saw

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Speaker 3: But I really was like, hey, what the like, what

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Speaker 2: Cause? Cause you know, I'm like, why are you just

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Speaker 3: And one of the dudes covers the NBA.

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Speaker 2: He has like a pretty uh I think he used

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Speaker 2: league of black people, black men, politically active men who

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Speaker 2: worked with President Obama to help get out the vote

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Because they like to do

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Speaker 2: this thing where it's like, I'm gonna shit on the

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Speaker 2: to make myself look better online and then not alone.

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Speaker 2: A lot of woke black people join that bandwagon too,

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Speaker 2: so corny to me, but this illustrates the shit I

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Speaker 2: what Obama actually.

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Speaker 4: Said, there's no connection.

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Speaker 2: There's no connection, and it's so important to point that

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Speaker 2: on social media like that, they probably just go, oh right,

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Speaker 2: up seeing, and it's so important to be like, how

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Speaker 2: did you arrive at this? Because the conversation that starts

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Speaker 3: They don't really come from what he said.

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Speaker 2: It always comes from these people who are like, he

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Speaker 2: vilified Rosa Parks.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about Rosa Parks or she did the lip.

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Speaker 3: Rosa Parks.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't appreciate Barack Obama saying that the optics matter for

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Speaker 2: So while you're shitting on on a man who obviously

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Speaker 3: Something that have become gear tactic, something that had.

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Speaker 2: Become a way to like virtue signal to people, Look,

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Speaker 3: We admit to racism. Well, it's also illegal.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna we're gonna go ahead and investigate and see

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Speaker 2: And that's kind of like what happens with defund That's

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Speaker 4: I can fuk about them. My language matters. How you

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Speaker 5: Well, you know now you're not gonna get this grant

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Speaker 4: I don't care. You know, you're so gun ho.

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Speaker 5: And the thing is now only does it impact them

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just it's just to see.

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Speaker 5: Way, because in the day, none of that matters. David

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Speaker 4: More important to people than getting results.

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Speaker 5: I don't agree with what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because if you have because here's my thing, if

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Speaker 2: you have a tactic and you have a suggestion, you

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Speaker 2: have a policy, then by its nature, it will be critique. Right.

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Speaker 2: That's what Obama knows, That's what Biden knows. Every every

442
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Speaker 2: politician uh worth their weight knows that that's the point

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Speaker 2: of having a job. It will be critique. This is

444
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Speaker 2: not saying you cannot be critique because that's how people

445
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Speaker 2: always take it, because you have to go to the extreme.

446
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Speaker 2: It can't just be oh yeah, I disagree a little bit.

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Speaker 3: It has to be you saying that.

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Speaker 2: You can't say Obama didn't nothing like, no, I didn't

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Speaker 2: say that.

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Speaker 3: But here's the point.

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Speaker 2: If you can throw the critiques but cannot accept any

452
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Speaker 2: if everything on your side is get down or lay down,

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Speaker 2: that is just a religion. That is just you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean, Like you're not practicing. You're not practicing

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Speaker 2: what you preach. Because anytime somebody says, yeah, but you

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Speaker 2: know this plan of yours that you just think we

457
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Speaker 2: should do, what about this? And you go fuck that?

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Speaker 2: You so you so basically you just and you start

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Speaker 2: demagoguing a person. It's like, oh, then your shit can't

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Speaker 2: hold water and you're afraid that I'm pouring a little

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Speaker 2: bit too much water in the boat. You so you're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: this thing will hold up if we know one questions.

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Speaker 6: It, right, that's bullshit, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's okay it it has to be okay,

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Speaker 2: especially for people on your side. I get the trolls

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Speaker 2: and stuff, which is why I brought up earlier in.

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Speaker 3: The week, like with trolls different.

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Speaker 2: I get that, and that's one of the problems we're

469
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Speaker 2: gonna always have is people trolling on the Internet is

470
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Speaker 2: just different in real life.

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Speaker 3: In real life it's.

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Speaker 2: Not as much like that. But on the Internet, someone

473
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Speaker 2: asked a question and they could mean it genuinely or

474
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Speaker 2: they could just be like, I'm gonna derail your point.

475
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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's like, dog, you can't do this. You can't.

476
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Speaker 2: You have to be able to at least the same

477
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Speaker 2: harsh critiques you're taking. You have to be at least

478
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Speaker 2: willing to or you're giving, be at least willing to

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Speaker 2: consider people who are like yo. This might not be

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Speaker 2: the best path, but it reminds me of that wonderful

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Speaker 2: skit in The Astronomy Club where the dude gets up

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Speaker 2: and it's the black people mean that he does like

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Speaker 2: couple people in the crowd start asking questions and he

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Speaker 2: eventually they usurp him so hard that he bids up, going,

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Speaker 2: you know what, fuck it, y'all take over, y'all be

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Speaker 2: the leader. That person who comes a leader gets on

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Speaker 2: top of the podium after doing all that rabble rousing,

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Speaker 2: and then he's like, all right, well, now that I

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Speaker 2: had his job, I have to actually consider more than

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Speaker 2: just you know, the the rhetoric I was throwing out there,

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Speaker 2: and he starts sounding like the last dude. Because the

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Speaker 2: nature of power is when you have it, if you're

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Speaker 2: a considerate person, you will start to consider things that

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Speaker 2: a person who does not have it never will agreed.

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Speaker 2: You know, It's just how people operate. It's like, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's like the difference between being singling in a relationship.

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Speaker 2: You have a bunch of ideas about how the relationship

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Speaker 2: will work. When you're single, you get in a relationship

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Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, these things are like snowflakes. Each

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Speaker 2: one's different thing. It is, so you know, some things

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Speaker 2: work for different people that not everything is as easy

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Speaker 2: as I thought. You know, it's a bunch of shit,

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Speaker 2: getting getting a job, having bills. This is certain things

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Speaker 2: where you're like, I'm gonna do this, and then you

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Speaker 2: experience it and you're like, oh, I see why everybody

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Speaker 2: doesn't just do blank.

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Speaker 3: It's a little bit harder than I thought.

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Speaker 5: Yes, particularly like the part of being an adult because

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Speaker 5: all the side is like every adult experience is different,

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Speaker 5: and you have some adults that are responsible, and you

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Speaker 5: got some adults that ain't shited, and you don't know

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Speaker 5: which is which until you get in that, until you

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Speaker 5: get up there, you'll be like, oh shit, this is

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Speaker 5: not not as simple as people claim.

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Speaker 4: For it to be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So I think that's kind of what happens and

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Speaker 2: what'll really be telling.

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Speaker 3: And I'm just calling it now.

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Speaker 2: It'll probably be a Cassio Cortes or Janna Presley, but

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Speaker 2: it's really gonna be telling when they start getting some

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Speaker 2: a little bit more seniority and they start becoming the

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Speaker 2: quote unquote establishment and stuff, and how their fans turn

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Speaker 2: on them because I've seen this show before too, where

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Speaker 2: they criticized. They criticized because because of who they are

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Speaker 2: and how they wanted to come to power and prominence.

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Speaker 2: I'm not knocking it, but they had to be the

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Speaker 2: people that criticized all the other Democrats as being you know, like, hey,

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Speaker 2: we got the solutions. You know, that's how the squad

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Speaker 2: came to province. I burning came to prominence. But if

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Speaker 2: you want to win over the party at some point,

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Speaker 2: if you have any ambition, you have to work with

533
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Speaker 2: the party because it's still your fucking party.

534
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Speaker 3: So if you want to tout these.

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Speaker 2: Things and we passed this and we did that, if

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Speaker 2: you want to put your name on that, you got

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Speaker 2: to work with people because you can't do any of

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Speaker 2: it by yourself. And so it'll be interesting to see

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Speaker 2: when they start working with people, if the groundswell of

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Speaker 2: support they have online will go, Nah, you sold out,

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Speaker 2: because that's what they've done to other people. Look at

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Speaker 2: Samon Sanders, look a look at Nina Turner. You know,

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Speaker 2: like anytime those people start working with folks, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's like when we have to build a coalition. At

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Speaker 2: some point, we've kind of pushed our brenksmanship to the

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Speaker 2: last point. Now it's time for me to like put

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Speaker 2: my cars on the table and see what we can

548
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Speaker 2: get done. They're like people like, no, we want to

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Speaker 2: stay ideologically pure, and the only way to do that

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Speaker 2: is to never cooperate, to never back down, to never settle,

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Speaker 2: to never compromise.

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Speaker 3: And that sounds great on Twitter, yes it.

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Speaker 4: Does, but it doesn't function in real life.

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Speaker 5: Aks Bernie Sanders because he is a you know, because

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Speaker 5: he's like.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing my thing.

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Speaker 5: He don't make coalitions and ship like that. Didn't you

558
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Speaker 5: want the one for president? And people's like, well, you

559
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Speaker 5: actually don't have no coalitions, you know, you don't have

560
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Speaker 5: people that were they were like, hey, this is my man.

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Speaker 4: We you know we did this together. You don't have that.

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Speaker 4: So you literally a man a loan with with your

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Speaker 4: brandy bros.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's not enough. Yeah. I see somebody saying in

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Speaker 2: the chat that y'alla Pressley, uh is not the one

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Speaker 2: on the outskirts or isn't the one like Elhinn and alc.

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Speaker 2: I know, but still watch watch what I say, Watch

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Speaker 2: what I say.

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Speaker 3: Her name is tied to them so much.

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Speaker 2: When she starts making that move, she will catch the

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Speaker 2: heat because they don't care.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if y'all see.

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Speaker 5: These people I'm talking about, they don't care. They don't

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Speaker 5: give a full The squad is all for them. They

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Speaker 5: don't go you put in one hundred pep, you put

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Speaker 5: in ten percent.

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Speaker 4: Y'all, they go to squad.

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Speaker 2: Y'all should go see what they say about Nina Turner.

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Speaker 2: Nina Turner was never running Bernie's twenty sixteen like they

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Speaker 2: did with like Brianna Joy Gray did she like she

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Speaker 2: ran a legitimate campaign, tried to push him as much

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Speaker 2: towards black people as he would go.

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Speaker 3: He didn't want to go all the way over there.

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Speaker 3: She hops on with Biden.

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Speaker 2: The way they talk about that woman, you would have

586
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Speaker 2: thought she was motherfucking Brianna. You thought you would have

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Speaker 2: thought she was the one out there going, h fuck

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Speaker 2: the party, let it burn down. Like she was never

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Speaker 2: that person. They don't care, like once they align with you,

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Speaker 2: they they're already like, can't wait to turn on you.

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Speaker 2: It's just a fucking weird colt. But yeah, man, that

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Speaker 2: that was a great read.

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Speaker 3: I suggest you'll go rid of yourselves the Atlantic.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a weird. It's weird and it's strange. Also,

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Speaker 5: it's one of the things when me and you was talking.

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Speaker 5: If they want to keep this purity, they can't stand

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Speaker 5: for long that does something else be federalized.

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Speaker 4: If they want to keep this purity, they have to

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Speaker 4: get out.

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Speaker 5: And once they get out, you have to make a

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Speaker 5: name for yourself on the outside.

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Speaker 4: Continue to agitate, which is.

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Speaker 5: Fine, you can do that, but you're but you're not

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Speaker 5: in a position of power anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's all and I mean those I'm not

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Speaker 2: trying to put it all on those four because I

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Speaker 2: don't think I think they're just the ones that are

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Speaker 2: the best branding. But that idea that the activist politician thing,

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Speaker 2: it works if you live in a place where you

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Speaker 2: can do it, Agreed, It's a privilege. A lot of

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Speaker 2: people just don't live in a place where they get

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Speaker 2: to have the luxury of being the burn it all down.

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Speaker 2: And I'm also a politician. It's like a lot of

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Speaker 2: times that means you're gonna lose. So yeah, man, it's

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Speaker 2: just interesting and it's, you know, a big subject we've

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Speaker 2: been talking about lately. Hopefully we can start putting it

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Speaker 2: to bed because I think, you know, at the end

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Speaker 2: of the day, this is gonna be the language people

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Speaker 2: in real life.

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Speaker 3: So we'll see.

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Speaker 3: H, Mary H. And lastly, Oh yeah, I said this, Malannikey,

655
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Speaker 3: I cool.

656
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 4: Whoa.

657
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: That's everybody. Thank y'all, plum me out. We had to

658
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 3: almost do the whole song.

659
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: All right, let's get into y'all's feedback. Okay, we had

660
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: comments on our website right that we like to read,

661
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 2: and comments on the polls and stuff, you know how

662
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:09,479
Speaker 2: we do. First episode back was the feedback show. Yes

663
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 2: would you be down for tip tips? Miss holiday virtual

664
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 2: hangout because we did one for Thanksgiving and yes, let's

665
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: do it.

666
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 3: Nah I'm good.

667
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 2: Ninety three say yes, let's do it. I guess y'all

668
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 2: are playing on social distance, staying home and doing all

669
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: the right things. Seven percent say nah, I'm good. They

670
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 2: got their own plans. They gonna be out on the

671
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 2: streets breathing on each other. I feel you. Kim Doc says,

672
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: I love to take part in the hangout. I missed

673
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 2: the last one, but it seems like my type of

674
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 2: carrying on with my people.

675
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 3: Absolutely, we hope you can.

676
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: Make it ball.

677
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 4: I can't wait.

678
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're gonna have to do another one

679
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 2: because you know, we ain't getting that vaccine by then.

680
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 2: Twenty two thirty two was Slave Trader Joe's and.

681
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 3: We had three comments.

682
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: Let's get to these. The first is from an anonymousho

683
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 2: says dear Rod and Karen. I would like to remain anonymous.

684
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 3: Please, and we'll try to keep this short.

685
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: I want to thank you for expressing how I've been

686
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: feeling on today's show, Sunday's December sixth. I'm a physician

687
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 2: and a high risk field as it pertains to this virus,

688
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: and have seen many COVID depths, young and old. It

689
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 2: is very frustrating to see the nonchalance and defiance that

690
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: so many have about this pandemic. Of course I wear

691
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: a ppe with each encounter, but the risk is not negligible.

692
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: You mentioned something along the lines of you would not

693
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: be surprised when healthcare workers started to strike.

694
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 3: Well, as a.

695
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: Black woman with my own underlying conditions, I've been seriously

696
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,439
Speaker 2: considering an alternative career options after more than twenty years

697
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: in medicine. This breaks my heart because being a physician

698
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 2: has in my dream come true. Yeah, and you know

699
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: the thing I worry about when we lose a black

700
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: person like like this is, you know, you lose an advocate.

701
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 2: Sometimes you lose a person that cares about black other

702
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 2: black people and black patience.

703
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 5: And people don't get the best care because you know,

704
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 5: anybody can be a good doctor. Don't keep me wrong,

705
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 5: but they're there are something about having a black doctor

706
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 5: that actually knows the culture, is concerned about the culture,

707
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 5: and will actually advocate go and actually do the extra

708
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 5: research to.

709
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 4: Find out am I actually a lot of times know.

710
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 5: Certain things that they can do on your behalf because

711
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 5: they know the culture. So and it's sad because some

712
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 5: people go, I only want black doctors, which which is valid,

713
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 5: and so they're hard to find in the first place.

714
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. The main thing for me is this, we know

715
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 2: statistically that medical care is better for black people when

716
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: it happens for other black people. But that shouldn't be

717
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 2: like a guilt trip way for you to have to

718
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 2: risk your life because some motherfuckers are out here just

719
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 2: you know, just frolicking like there's no like there's nothing

720
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 2: out here, you know, and you lose.

721
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 5: A lot of knowledge and a lot of wisdom and

722
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 5: a lot of experience when people like that retire.

723
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 2: I personally know some other physicians who are having similar thoughts.

724
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: One thing that keeps me from going is that I

725
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 2: know I'm a representative of health Avare for my black

726
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 2: patients and patients of color yep.

727
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 3: So basically exactly what we were saying.

728
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 2: Also, there is a fact that I love my work

729
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 2: and all of my patients, despite race or any other factor.

730
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 2: I just hope and pray that there will be more

731
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 2: serious approach to this pandemic and in their future. I

732
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 2: think Biden will do that for sure. He will enable

733
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 2: his health care, his health panel. This is to do,

734
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 2: to be vocal and out there in front of American people.

735
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: He's already started like an educational uh message for the

736
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: vaccine and stuff. You know, they're actively targeting and catering

737
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: to Black people to let us know, like, hey, because

738
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: there's been posed where Black people are the least likely

739
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 2: to take the vaccine and in the case of us

740
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,439
Speaker 2: being the second most likely to die from the shit,

741
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: you know, I think we should be targeted, you know,

742
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 2: and all that stuff. So uh, we'll see what happens

743
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: with that. We healthcare workers did not take oaths to

744
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 2: sacrifice our own lives when there are simple that could

745
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: make things so much better. Anyway, I could say so

746
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: much more, but I will stop here. I apologize it's

747
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: got lengthy and for any typos. Thanks to you too

748
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 2: for somehow knowing how to express what I and some

749
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 2: other physicians I've been feeling it for continuing to do

750
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,439
Speaker 2: what you do to benefit public health and safety. Thank

751
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: you and stay safe anonymous, Thank you right, and.

752
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 5: I agree with that you signed up to do a

753
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 5: service to your patience and to be a good doctor,

754
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 5: you know, and be like, hey, this makes sense, and

755
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 5: this doesn't make sense in whatever field you win, You

756
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 5: and I sign up to die.

757
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 4: This is not the army, this is not the Navy

758
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 4: nor the air Force.

759
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 7: Day.

760
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 4: You know, you didn't sign up to be like I'm

761
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 4: going to be on the.

762
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 5: Front line, but that's what they changed it to for

763
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 5: the illusion to justify all of you dying.

764
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 2: Rex Solae says, I'm so glad you too took a break,

765
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 2: and I was stoked to see the new episode pop

766
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 2: up on my fee. I'm only about twenty minutes into

767
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: this episode, but I'm already wrote in and eager to

768
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 2: share your insights far and wide. I really appreciate how

769
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 2: forthcoming you two are about your interactions on social media.

770
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: I feel like we're all simultaneously exhausted by the hooked it,

771
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 2: and we rarely sit down to think about what we're

772
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: doing to feed the cycle and what we can do

773
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: to break it. I think you're really wise, especially you

774
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 2: care to quickly disengage as soon as you see comments

775
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 2: on the Facebook post get destructive. It's a bummer that

776
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: folks in power Zuckerbird, Jack on Twitter, etc. Waited until

777
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 2: their platforms got toxic to begin the effort to problem solve,

778
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 2: fact check, and generally de escalate engagement. I'm not naive.

779
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 2: I know they fed the sensationalism that brought us here,

780
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 2: but I doubt they had anticipated the problems we see today.

781
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 2: The rash of hate grews, the preponeers lies and spread

782
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 2: spread unchecked. Yeah. I think about that all the time,

783
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: especially Zuckerbird. There's no fucking way he realized he was

784
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 2: gonna be the person he is today. And by a person,

785
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 2: I don't mean I don't know him personally. I'm not

786
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 2: talking about his makeup, but I mean, like, as big

787
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 2: and influential as he is today, there's no fucking way,

788
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 2: no way.

789
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 4: You would have know that platform is gonna get.

790
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 2: This huge, not with the beginnings that it had. It's insane.

791
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: No one could have saw that. It doesn't mean that

792
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 2: he gets a pass for how he's done his right,

793
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 2: what he's done with his power. But it's also like

794
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 2: when I be seeing him at them congressional hearings, I'm like, this,

795
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 2: this dufish, you know what I mean.

796
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 3: It's no fucking way he understood what's gonna happen.

797
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: Anyways, Thank you to for sharing your wisdom, for helping

798
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: me be a little more mind for my online interactions. Well, honestly, man,

799
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: I talk about that shit a lot because I want

800
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: to reading a lot about it lately because I'm trying,

801
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: you know, I'm just like trying to figure out my

802
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 2: own brain and figure out, you know, ways to navigate

803
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 2: my own life better, you know. And I and I

804
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 2: don't want to completely disconnect like people say, because I mean,

805
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 2: one addition to it being like, you know, so unaddicted,

806
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: but literally for what we do, I think being disconnected

807
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 2: completely is bad. Yeah, And what I didn't realize before

808
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: now is that being on there too much is also

809
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 2: being disconnected completely.

810
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 4: You got to find your balance.

811
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 5: Everybody has their balance and and your balance depends on you.

812
00:40:58,400 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

813
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: So I didn't realize that at the time, and so

814
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: you know, that's kind of like the thing I had

815
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 2: to come to and I just start being a little

816
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: more like cognizant and aggressive about being like, wait a minute,

817
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 2: and I'm not just talking about time limbs and shit,

818
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 2: but like, what exactly does this do to your brain?

819
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: What is that?

820
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 3: And it's kind of been interesting because.

821
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 2: At least for me, man, I haven't felt like any

822
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 2: real anxiety in a long long time now. Even stuff

823
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: that I know used to get to me like bad inside.

824
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 2: It like very rarely now when I have an interaction

825
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: where I feel like, man, I feel that dope with meine,

826
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 2: I feel that.

827
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: That nervousness, that fight or flight, that adrenaline rush.

828
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 8: You know.

829
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 2: I used to get that all the time, and it

830
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 2: sometimes over shit that wasn't that big a deal, just

831
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 2: me and my friend. Oh, this person is upset that

832
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 2: I made a joke about their favorite movie. Oh god,

833
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: you know that she used to bother me because you know,

834
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 2: I'm also I'm also in path and I don't want

835
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 2: to hurt people's feelings, and I you know, and I

836
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: think about that shit a lot. But it was to

837
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 2: the point where I was making myself not be myself

838
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: and where it was miserable for me, which is not

839
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: something that I ever started a social media account to

840
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 2: feel to the point where it bleeds over into my

841
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 2: regular life. You know, not that I'll ever want to

842
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: be on these people, but you know, I see the

843
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: benefits of those like I'm just, I just, I just

844
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 2: don't give a fuck about nobody. I see the benefits

845
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 2: of that. And sometimes you have to dip a toe

846
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 2: into that to be like, yeah, I said what I said.

847
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 2: If you don't understand whatever, And I think some of

848
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 2: the most powerful people and some of the most some

849
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 2: of the people I look up to the most, and

850
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 2: I say, like, that seems like a very righteous person

851
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 2: from Afar are all people that go, yeah, at a

852
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 2: certain point, this is me.

853
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 3: I said what I said.

854
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: I stand behind it, and you just gonna have to

855
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 2: feel you can.

856
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 3: Just not like me, and that's okay, it's okay.

857
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 2: And I had to learn to be able to let

858
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 2: that go because people gonna not like you anyway. I

859
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 2: think it was Tupac to say something like rule number two,

860
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 2: niggas gonna hate you for whatever you do, so like

861
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: either way, somebody gonna not like you.

862
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 3: But I used to really let it bother me.

863
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 5: And this niggas don't like me in my real everyday life.

864
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 5: The funk I give about people online not like me,

865
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 5: I don't know, y'all.

866
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: Right, and that's that's huge, you know, Kim doc right

867
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 2: saying sevarishly, I got really sad for the state of

868
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: the Black Panther movie and all that are working on

869
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 2: for it. There's a ground swell to make sure the

870
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 2: Black Panther in the department in the department of Chadwick.

871
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: That would be groundbreaking and revolutionary, a black female leader

872
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 2: in a Marvel universe.

873
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 3: I just don't see that happening right now.

874
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: Everyone involved is paying it to a tight corner with

875
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 2: her ideology, I am always taking aback when people who

876
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 2: more than likely work with members of the lgbt q

877
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 2: i A community have these views. Hopefully she can build

878
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 2: and grow from this. I wish her the best of luck.

879
00:43:53,040 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 2: Talk about Letitia right, Yeah, I mean I feel, you know, yeah,

880
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 2: I you hope for the best for all the people

881
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 2: that are kind of like youngish. Now I don't know

882
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 2: her age. Let me look it up just to be sure,

883
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 2: but you you know, you kind of because I think

884
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 2: a lot of people twenty seven Okay, so like a

885
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 2: lot of people do kind of go through like.

886
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 3: Religious shit.

887
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 2: They have to deprogram and stuff. But it's just up

888
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: to the person if they want a d program.

889
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 3: I'm never really wishing against somebody.

890
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 2: To learn and do better and stuff. But at the

891
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: same time, if this is who she is, then it's

892
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: who she is right now, and regardless of the company

893
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: she works for, in the character she plays, she's just

894
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 2: an actress. And if you're just an actress, that does

895
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: you know, maybe that's how good a actress you are.

896
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: Everyone said you played a genius, you must be smart.

897
00:44:54,880 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: It's like, nah, I'm not, like I'm just you know,

898
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 2: I'm actually just just a dumb ass and not just

899
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: happen to be a black woman. You know.

900
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 3: This is the other thing too, that I think we

901
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 3: have to not we. I shouldn't say we.

902
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: People are really into representational politics right now, by which

903
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 2: I mean I am blank, this person is blank. Therefore

904
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 2: they represent me. And while there's some truth to that,

905
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: it also kind of does a lot of harm because

906
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: we stop recognizing we're not a monolitht We stop recognizing

907
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: that that's a different person. And it's why people are

908
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 2: so obsessed with celebrity. The other dad epiphany is why

909
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: people want celebrities to apologize, even if they don't think

910
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 2: that a celebrity means it right, they really want to

911
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 2: be acknowledged, and then they want to be able to say, look,

912
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 2: they apologize, I.

913
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 3: Can continue to like them.

914
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 2: So when you see me saying I'm listening to Kanye

915
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 2: West's song, you can't judge me because he did apologize.

916
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 3: Yes, he fucked up. We can laugh it off and

917
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 3: then he apologized.

918
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 2: But more people will hurt that he wouldn't apologize and

919
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: really by what he said, because if he would have apologized,

920
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: they would have found a way to kind of quote

921
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 2: unquote forgive them, you know. But in the truth of

922
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 2: the matter is none of us can personally forgive someone

923
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 2: that we don't know that did not harm us.

924
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 3: We don't matter to them in that type of way.

925
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: You need a kind of a person or some type

926
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 2: of real relationship with someone to do that kind of

927
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 2: work and trust, apologies, forgiveness and all that shit is work.

928
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 2: So all that stuff to say, like she said that shit,

929
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 2: I don't know what will happen to her. I'm not

930
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 2: as hung up on you know. We gotta protect her.

931
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 2: We gotta make sure. Hey, she said what she said

932
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 2: that if you say that shit at Disney, a company

933
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: that is really trying their best to be inclusive, have

934
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 2: diversity in front, behind the camera, and you end up

935
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 2: losing some opportunities.

936
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 3: Hey, dog, that's.

937
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 4: On you, on you.

938
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 3: You know, And I don't say that with any level

939
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 3: of vindictiveness.

940
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: It's just that is on you. You made that mess,

941
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: good luck cleaning it up. And I feel the same

942
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 2: way about Chris Sette Michelle. I feel the same way

943
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 2: about Nate Parker. I feel the same way about all

944
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 2: these people because you made that Messn't.

945
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 4: Nobody force you to be over there.

946
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: You know, it's not right that white people often get

947
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt when they do the same thing.

948
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: That's not right. Right, But at the same time, be

949
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 2: lying up, I said, well, that would make it okay

950
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 2: for America. I make jokes about it, but being serious,

951
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 2: like nah, you know, and so really yeah, like you said, man,

952
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: it's really just sad, like what a waste of a

953
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 2: fucking opportunity. Now, she did delete her social media's and whatnot,

954
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 2: so they may do that thing where she just believes

955
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: that shit behind the scenes like Chris Pratt and don't

956
00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 2: talk about it. And that seems to be the uh

957
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: what do you call it? The unspoken agreement that people

958
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 2: have with a lot of celebrities. We think they probably

959
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 2: believe some bullshit, they just don't tell us about the bullshit,

960
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 2: and then we basically all forced to move on.

961
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's the lesson. People better realize that that's

962
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 5: the motherfucking lesson. Did they have learned keep your fucking

963
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 5: mouth shut and just and just.

964
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 4: Go on, don't be talking?

965
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 5: And then you have people that talk and people are

966
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 5: like yeay, until you bring up some ship they disagree with.

967
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 3: The poe was Have you ever asked an expert for

968
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 3: dating advice?

969
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 2: Oh, because this is the one we played that that.

970
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 2: Did you see the pictures of the dude that people

971
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 2: had where turns out he was like some like once

972
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 2: you took away the candlelight in the dark lit room,

973
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 2: he had a lot of Uh, he wasn't that appealing.

974
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 3: To a lot of people.

975
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 5: Oh, that's why he was in the background, and and

976
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 5: and the dog playing on the.

977
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 4: Candle on the pan of table.

978
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 2: That's why he was looking like he was doing the seance.

979
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

980
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 3: Lights, So apparently he got roasted after that.

981
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 5: I just started laughing, yeah, cause they was like, where

982
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 5: are you talking all this shit looking like that?

983
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 2: You know how people all the mean people was like,

984
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 2: he's still right. I'm like, yeah, because y'all got the

985
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 2: evil inside y'all. Have you ever asked an expert for

986
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 2: dating advice? Yes?

987
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 3: Or no?

988
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 2: I haven't either, But I mean I really wasn't out

989
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 2: there that long. Okay, Karen snatched me up first thing,

990
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 2: so yes, yeah.

991
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 5: We learned together, so we just I was fucking up.

992
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 2: Yes, ten ninety percent say no they have not. MSS

993
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 2: Barnes says. After a decade and some change, I decided

994
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: to start dating again, and I had to ask the

995
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 2: advice of a friend of mine who is an expert

996
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 2: in most things.

997
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 4: Guy.

998
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: I mean, dating in twenty twenty is vastly different than

999
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 2: when I went out on my last day back in

1000
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 2: two thousand and two, so I needed some advice I

1001
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 2: will say from that guy friend, and I learned a lot.

1002
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 2: There you go. I think it's different if it's your friend, though,

1003
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 2: yes I wouldn't. I mean, is he an expert? Is

1004
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 2: he just a man? You know, we think we know everything,

1005
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 2: y'all do? Says I haven't reached out to a dating expert,

1006
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 2: but perhaps I should.

1007
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 3: I do feel.

1008
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 2: Confident that they would tell me all the things I

1009
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 2: don't want to hear and provide steps I already know

1010
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 2: I need to take.

1011
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,720
Speaker 3: So I guess I'm good on the dating expert. Lol.

1012
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 2: What a circular argument. I think if we're super honest

1013
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 2: with ourselves, we could point to areas where we are

1014
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 2: faltering in those data streets. But it takes over an introspection.

1015
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 2: That's one way to look at it. Kim Dot and

1016
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 2: I feel you on that, but I would only slightly

1017
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 2: push back on a lot of the advice they give

1018
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 2: is superficial engeneric. Yes, it's superficial and generic, and I

1019
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 2: don't think dating is one size fits all.

1020
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:40,959
Speaker 3: I don't think life is that way.

1021
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 2: I think they're just giving you advice on what they

1022
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 2: would do or how to date someone like them, but

1023
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 2: they're not necessarily giving you advice, and they normally don't

1024
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 2: take any fucking consideration into your personal well being and happiness,

1025
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 2: you know, at least for me, I haven't ever seen

1026
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 2: something a single person was doing that there were no

1027
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 2: married people that did it. I've never seen something that

1028
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 2: a miserable person, uh, I mean that that a happy

1029
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 2: person was doing as they were single, that you couldn't

1030
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 2: be happy and do while you were in a relationship,

1031
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 2: Like I think, you know.

1032
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 3: It's why I don't believe in dating advice.

1033
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 2: And while people don't you know, we like, don't write

1034
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,439
Speaker 2: up here with that shit because I don't know you,

1035
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 2: number one. You could be telling me anything. But then too,

1036
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 2: I'm just generalizing. I don't know you, you know. And

1037
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 2: every time people say certain things, it's just kind of

1038
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna talk about your way, I'm gonna talk

1039
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 2: about your age. What ain't nobody thirty six of a

1040
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 2: met a man? What the fuck nobody nobody fat ever

1041
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 2: got married? That's crazy, you know. So it's like they

1042
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 2: can tell you superficial shit like look this way, act

1043
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 2: this way because they can see you and just say

1044
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 2: that shit.

1045
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 3: But I don't.

1046
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: I'll take all that shit with a grain of salt Man.

1047
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: The main thing I've seen work is people that are

1048
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 2: happy tend to end up a track acting more people.

1049
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 2: That's the main thing I've seen, like motherfuckers. Now I'm

1050
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 2: not saying it always ends well, because a lot of times.

1051
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 3: Like misery is as attracted to your happiness.

1052
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 2: But for me, I think a lot of this shit

1053
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,240
Speaker 2: is just literally like people that seem to be people

1054
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 2: always want to be down with a good time. So

1055
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 2: if you seem like you having a good time, motherfucker

1056
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 2: will just be like, you know what, Okay, you know what,

1057
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 2: It's something about them, you know what I mean? People

1058
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 2: I don't even understand what you see in them. It's

1059
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 2: something about them, you know. And for me personally, that

1060
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 2: dude that gave the advice seemed fucking miserable, And a

1061
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 2: lot of those dudes seem miserable. Women well that for sure,

1062
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 2: but they also just seem miserable, you know, they just

1063
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 2: like who Like they're critiquing this woman. I'm like, imagine

1064
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 2: going on a date with this dude. He's sitting across

1065
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,240
Speaker 2: the other side of the table. Do y'all really believe

1066
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 2: he's charming the pants out of people? And you're like, Wow,

1067
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,439
Speaker 2: what a great God. No, you're probably like I would

1068
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: never want to hang around this guy. He's mean, he's rude.

1069
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 3: You know.

1070
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 2: Anyway, why is it so dark in here? And leaves

1071
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 2: a comment art episode The Paying Down Under. I thought

1072
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 2: Clubhouse is still in beta testing? How is everyone getting

1073
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 2: on it and having fun without me? First of all,

1074
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 2: they ain't having fun no more because everybody's getting on it.

1075
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 5: Sorry, and it's only on Apple. I don't think any

1076
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 5: of the platform has it yet.

1077
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 2: For now, I don't know if it's still in beta

1078
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: testing or not. But at some point they open up

1079
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 2: the quote unquote beta to I guess it is.

1080
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 3: It's invite only.

1081
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 2: It's the point everybody that gets on can invite five people.

1082
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 2: I think now they've done something where you can apply

1083
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 2: to be own clubhouse or something. You get on a

1084
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 2: waiting list and it informs people who are already own clubhouse. Hey,

1085
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: so and so's on a waiting list? Would you like

1086
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 2: to help them join?

1087
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 5: And?

1088
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, if I see you on the house,

1089
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:58,919
Speaker 2: I'll say yes. I don't give a fuck. I don't

1090
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 2: be The problem is I don't really be on there

1091
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 2: like that, and when I am on there, it was

1092
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 2: lonely for about thirty seconds, saying, I just go on

1093
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 2: there and see if I got any new request. And

1094
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 2: then and then I scroll the rooms and laugh at

1095
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 2: the titles and don't go in none of them. And

1096
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 2: then I turned the shit off and turn my notvocations

1097
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 2: back off because the new thing now is everybody pinging

1098
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 2: me to be in these conversations. I'm like, I don't

1099
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 2: ignore the shit out of them, Like I don't think

1100
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 2: I want to talk to anyone about this. It's like ping,

1101
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 2: I think Ron would have something to say about you know,

1102
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 2: black podcasts in the UK. I'm like, I don't have

1103
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,760
Speaker 2: nothing to say about that. And I know y'all niggas

1104
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 2: are gonna be arguing. And I also don't want to

1105
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 2: talk to a lot of people on there. You know,

1106
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 2: it's turning into the ghetto, y'all right, he says. I

1107
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 2: was scratching my head wondering why people are so upset

1108
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 2: with Cardi b over Purst. Male rappers are constantly photographing

1109
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 2: themselves with bricks and money, holding it to their ears

1110
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 2: like phones, and no one says shit. A lot of

1111
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 2: it came off as jealousy and concern. Trolling was even

1112
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,439
Speaker 2: more annoying the girl who said she had gotten money

1113
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 2: from Carty but didn't think Cardi should have talked about

1114
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 2: such an extravagant purchase in the middle of a pandemic

1115
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 2: where people were struggling to come off as performative to me,

1116
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 2: and had the nerve to get upset when Carti retweeted her, Yo,

1117
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 2: I'm see, this is another thing on Twitter. They're gonna

1118
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 2: be mad either way. This is the thing you have

1119
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 2: to start with, right, They're gonna be mad either way.

1120
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 2: But think about this, that girl said that shit. Carti,

1121
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 2: first I think just responded to her or whatever. As

1122
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 2: soon as she responded, Carti's the bad guy for responding.

1123
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 2: But if you don't respond, you become the bad guy

1124
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 2: for ignoring them. Then it was like, then they get

1125
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 2: into this other shit they like to do on there

1126
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 2: where it's like if you quote tweet the person, that's bad.

1127
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 2: If you're at replying, that's that's what. Now you're taking

1128
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 2: me out of contact showing what I said that it

1129
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 2: becomes what we started this episode talking about, where people

1130
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 2: only understand and how to have a conversation as the

1131
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 2: oppressed and the powerful.

1132
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 3: They're not having a conversation with two people.

1133
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 2: Do I have more money than.

1134
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 3: You and my famous yes?

1135
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 2: But if less you, if you want to engage me

1136
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 2: and we can talk to each other as equal, then

1137
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 2: let's do that.

1138
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 3: But if not, then leave me the fuck out.

1139
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 2: Of the narrative because I feel because I'm gonna be

1140
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 2: the bad guy no matter what you do, because you

1141
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 2: decided already I'm the bad guy, right.

1142
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 4: So my point is, why do the song of dance?

1143
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 4: Like I like and like I say, and it's something.

1144
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 5: That I'm kind of working on and just kind of

1145
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 5: being more empathetic about it.

1146
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 4: But I'm like, no, bitch, we're not going through the

1147
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 4: song of dance. Get the fuck out my dance room floor?

1148
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 4: Fuck you?

1149
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, like what I'll do now?

1150
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 2: Like every week we have emails and comments and shit

1151
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 2: that don't get read on the show because sometimes somebody

1152
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 2: writes in and something so ridiculous or disrespectful or obvious

1153
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 2: trolling or something like I'm not giving you airtime because

1154
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 2: I see what happens, and and if I let you,

1155
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 2: you write something that that's going to make me and

1156
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 2: Karen mad. Me and Karen read it on our show

1157
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 2: for god knows what reason. Then we go off on you. Yeah,

1158
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 2: there will be people that go, yeah, Ron and Karen

1159
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 2: get them. But they're also gonna be people like, well, really,

1160
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 2: they took their big platform and they did this because

1161
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 2: people are really fucking finicky.

1162
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,959
Speaker 3: Man, They will really turn they.

1163
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 2: Like people want to have a victim versus bully discussion

1164
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 2: so bad.

1165
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,919
Speaker 3: You know, everything, and we do this to everything.

1166
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 2: It's like I said, in life, in my opinion, it's

1167
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 2: rarely that way most of the time. Even when it's me,

1168
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 2: even when it's you, we're a little we're somewhat complicit

1169
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 2: in the things that we are doing through you know,

1170
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 2: a lot of times we do make choices and we

1171
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 2: do have to live with those choices. And it's like,

1172
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 2: if I don't like the circumstances that or I don't

1173
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,919
Speaker 2: like how my choices played out, then I'm just gonna

1174
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 2: be like I'm the victim here, and in some circles

1175
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 2: that works, So who can run to be in the

1176
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 2: victim first? But yeah, with Carti, it was interesting because

1177
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 2: she has done all this shit to be a woman

1178
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 2: of the people, but this is kind of a trap

1179
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 2: of his own design that she fell into.

1180
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 3: She made her name being brash.

1181
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 2: Ignorant, outspoken, funny, engaging, charismatic, all this stuff, and she

1182
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:30,919
Speaker 2: was just so real and.

1183
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 3: They loved it.

1184
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 2: And then they, you know, without them understanding what they

1185
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 2: were doing, a lot of these people really started treating

1186
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 2: her like she was stupid. But since she was still

1187
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 2: representing for black women, women of color, the hood, all

1188
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 2: this shit, people started feeling like, I need to protect her.

1189
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 2: I need to defend her. So that means when she

1190
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 2: makes a mistake, they now go, I need to take

1191
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 2: you down.

1192
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 3: She never asked anybody to defend her.

1193
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 2: Nope, she never asked anybody to put her on that

1194
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 2: pedestal and make her, you know, their avatar. Like she

1195
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 2: didn't ask for none of that shit. People just do

1196
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 2: it now. You know, here's a talented person. I'm gonna

1197
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 2: attach myself to them. We are now famous, and then

1198
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 2: you find out, oh, they're their own person.

1199
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 5: You know.

1200
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 2: I saw people defending her when she was talking about

1201
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 2: drugging in and robbing them.

1202
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 3: People felt like they needed to defend that.

1203
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 2: Right. Cool, you you felt the need to defend that,

1204
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 2: But that's also a person that did this disting to

1205
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 2: these people. So then you come back and when she does, hey, uh,

1206
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get this purse. What y'all think, Fuck you bitch,

1207
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 2: how dare you? Well?

1208
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1209
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 3: I'm the kind of person that drugs and robs people.

1210
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 3: Sometimes y'all thought that was cute and funny.

1211
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 2: Y'all defended it, but I'm broke.

1212
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 3: Well, them niggas was broken when I stole they money, Like,

1213
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 3: what the fuck? What are the you know what I mean?

1214
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 2: I see how they can get confused because everyone it's

1215
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 2: the internet, and some days, motherfuckers, how you're back and

1216
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 2: some days you on the fucking chumping block.

1217
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1218
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, And a lot of that varies per person and

1219
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 5: how you navigated, and you know, like I said, sometimes

1220
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 5: I just chalk it up to me being old, because

1221
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 5: I'm like, hey, some of that shit I'm just not

1222
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 5: willing to deal with.

1223
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 4: No, I'm good.

1224
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1225
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 3: And the thing that's funny is like.

1226
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 2: She was people people big up to her when she

1227
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 2: would like talk to Bernie Sanders. You know, she goes

1228
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 2: on IG Live and she talks about you know, socialism

1229
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 2: or politics or taxes. Oh man, I'm talking like I mean,

1230
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 2: they're writing articles on the Mary Sue, you know what

1231
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 2: I'm saying. They're like like they are writing this shit

1232
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 2: up like she's president almost.

1233
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that's.

1234
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 2: A bad thing necessarily, but once you start doing that

1235
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 2: to people, you're really dehumanizing them, and you don't understand

1236
01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 2: it until they have another human moment and they quote

1237
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 2: unquote let you down by acting like, oh, yeah, I'm

1238
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 2: also a nigga from the Bronx that used to be

1239
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 2: a stripper and rob people like I'm also that person.

1240
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 3: You know what happens with rappers all the time, happens.

1241
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 2: With actors, all this shit where you're like, oh, yeah,

1242
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 2: you're not You're not just the good.

1243
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 4: Days and nobody's one dimension, nobody.

1244
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 2: And we want people, we want people to be the

1245
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 2: good days every day, god right, which is dehumanizing. People.

1246
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 2: Can't do that, you can't keep that up. And if

1247
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 2: you have a bad day, we want you to hide

1248
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 2: it from everybody you know and.

1249
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 4: Be ashamed of it, and we want to hold it

1250
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 4: against you forever.

1251
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 5: And like you said, that's that separate between Twitter and

1252
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 5: real life. In real life, everybody owned social media has

1253
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 5: done something fucked up that some people know about, some

1254
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 5: people don't. It just hasn't been brought to life. Would

1255
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 5: you want to be held at your lowest fucked up

1256
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 5: standard forever. No, but then why are you holding these

1257
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 5: standings up again for the.

1258
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 2: Record, For the record, we move so fast, it's not forever.

1259
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 2: Like Carti's fine. By the time we join this show today,

1260
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 2: people are back on. Like you know, I'm sure if

1261
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 2: she goes out and stairs something, she'll be okay. Like

1262
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 2: that controversy lasted because she gave them that attention for

1263
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 2: that day or so. But she just gotta drop another video.

1264
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 2: There's gonna always be a small contingent of people that

1265
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 2: won't fuck with you forever. But they were waiting on that.

1266
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 2: But in general, she'll be fine, yes, you know.

1267
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 4: And that's true. Overall, most people will be fine.

1268
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 5: But yes that they're like you said, as a subgroup

1269
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 5: of people that they are to the point that where

1270
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 5: anytime you bring their name up, they're gonna pop up

1271
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 5: and tell you every time.

1272
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 4: They fucked up.

1273
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 3: These people don't have any power mm hmm.

1274
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 2: Their only power is bre That's why they're so small

1275
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 2: and jealous and petty, because all they have is that.

1276
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 3: And it's a lot.

1277
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 2: Of what I used to do is given the benefit

1278
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 2: of a doubt, I will never do that again. Now,

1279
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 2: I see, like most of these critiques if you just

1280
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 2: save yourself a whole lot of time, it has so

1281
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 2: if you go, oh, this is some type of weird

1282
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 2: jealousy or some type of hating, Yeah, you have.

1283
01:02:58,560 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 4: To see through it.

1284
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 5: And the time, they don't want you to see through it, because,

1285
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 5: like I said, you stopped the song and then right then.

1286
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 2: And the thing is if you tell them that to

1287
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 2: their face, they just gonna spend time denying it because no, no,

1288
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 2: the hater is always the last one to know. Like

1289
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 2: that dude that was talking about Obama in his book

1290
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 2: list and I was like, daw, y'all literally hate everything

1291
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 2: this nigga do. Like sometimes like you could have, even

1292
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 2: if you hate him for some other reason, you could

1293
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 2: have let this go and you didn't. And the dude

1294
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 2: goes back and forth with me on Twitter about it,

1295
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 2: and I told him, like, Dawn, it just sounds like

1296
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 2: you hate and he's like and I was like, let

1297
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 2: me just because Twitter lets you search, let me just

1298
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 2: search your name in Obama. Literally every tweet was him

1299
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 2: shitting on some petty shit. It wasn't even some major

1300
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 2: like he did this he did. It was always like

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01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 2: he picked his March madness brackets, like you just hate

1302
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 2: the dude, just say it. Apparently you the last one

1303
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 2: to know. And so I think that's what happens is

1304
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 2: like people pivot on that love and hate shit so fast.

1305
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 2: You love Cardi B because you you were just entertained

1306
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 2: by her, but you couldn't just be entertained because stan Kolcher,

1307
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 2: she gotta become representation of you. So then she did

1308
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 2: a human thing. She asked me she buy a fucking purse,

1309
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 2: and you knew she would buy it or not buy

1310
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 2: it. It didn't really matter what y'all said. It was just

1311
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 2: a little bit of a flex, and motherfucker's like, now

1312
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 2: we have to take her down. This is crazy.

1313
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, the part that's the

1314
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 3: craziest is that it won't matter Intiday, No, won't.

1315
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's the part that to me is the

1316
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 2: part that you're just like, what the fuck are people

1317
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 2: doing each other?

1318
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 5: Yes, And once you understand, oh, this shit won't matter,

1319
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 5: it's easy for me. Once I understood that, it was

1320
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 5: easier to just navigate and just ignore a lot more

1321
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 5: shit because I was like, oh, three days and not

1322
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 5: five days and now, next time somebody gets shot the street,

1323
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 5: none of this shit don't matter. Oh okay, So it

1324
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 5: was just to me, it made it less stressful, if

1325
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 5: that makes sense, easier to just navigate the platform.

1326
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. So you know it is crazy. When someone said

1327
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 2: CARDI retweeting her with violence, I rolled my eyes. I

1328
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 2: think people don't care. Yeah yeah, I hate to hate

1329
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 2: to be that person. But violence is now one of

1330
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 2: those words where I immediately tune the fuck out because

1331
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 2: because we've overused it. It went from like violence is physical, okay,

1332
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 2: violence can be emotional abuse and stuff.

1333
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 3: Got it?

1334
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 2: Now, motherfucker's really also like and wearing white after Labor Day.

1335
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 3: Is violence and you don't talk about that enough.

1336
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 2: And I'm like, y'all have just taken this word and

1337
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 2: made it meaningless.

1338
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 4: Why everything can't be violenced, y'all? No, there is some

1339
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 4: situations where it is true violence. But you can't just

1340
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 4: smeack this on everything.

1341
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,439
Speaker 5: It's but you know what it is, my bacon egg,

1342
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 5: my bacon and my bacon egg and cheese. What's purn

1343
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 5: This is sandwich violence. Calm down, y'all, come yeah, And.

1344
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 2: Like you know, I get the comedic use, Like Karen

1345
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 2: just use it. That's funny to me. But when like,

1346
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 2: it's conflict, it's not abuse. That book that I keep saying,

1347
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 2: like it was so challenging for me to read, now

1348
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 2: go back and I'm so thanksful I fucking read it.

1349
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 2: Thank God God, Like Sarah Schulman fucking wrote the shit

1350
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 2: out of that book and I didn't see it, I

1351
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 2: didn't understand it.

1352
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 3: But now I'm like, I fucking get it.

1353
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 2: You're right because of the way our rhetoric is online,

1354
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 2: we are we need attention and that we're so scared

1355
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 2: we won't get it. We can't just be like I

1356
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 2: disagree with this person, or even if we we can't

1357
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 2: even just be like, well, what they did. You know,

1358
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have did it that way, but they did

1359
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 2: it differently than we have to be like Cardi B

1360
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 2: committed violence. She sent people to her mentions like she

1361
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 2: didn't send nobody to shit she didn't like. So essentially,

1362
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 2: a person that has a platform can never respond to

1363
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 2: anyone because you are now saying any response is a

1364
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 2: command to go attack this other person, regardless of what

1365
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 2: they say, because they can't defend themselves. You can say

1366
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 2: you are a blah blah blah blah blah, and it

1367
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,479
Speaker 2: don't matter she a black woman or not. That shit

1368
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 2: goes out the window.

1369
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 3: That's why I said, I'm not really a big fan

1370
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 3: of the like.

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01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 2: You know, we had to defend him because he's a

1372
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 2: black man, O, because she's a black woman, because they

1373
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 2: just because at the end of the day, y'all throw

1374
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 2: it right out the window when y'all don't like it,

1375
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 2: come on as soon as it's in convenient. She stopped

1376
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 2: being a black woman that needs empathy and understanding. It's

1377
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 2: just she's a powerful person and this other person is

1378
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 2: a pressed It's like, okay, cool. So now it's violence

1379
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 2: to fucking respond to you in any form. If I

1380
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 2: tweet it to you, I'm violent. If I quote tweet it,

1381
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 2: I'm violent. I take a screenshot, I'm violent if I

1382
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 2: if I don't respond, I'm violent.

1383
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 3: Because silence is complicit.

1384
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 2: Like just just say you want to ride on the

1385
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 2: motherfucker and it don't matter what they do.

1386
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:39,439
Speaker 3: You don't even need me here for this part.

1387
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 2: You know, I think people don't care how other people

1388
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 2: spend their money as long as they like you, yep.

1389
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 2: But when they're jealous and.

1390
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 6: Hate you, they cloak they hate with wokeness.

1391
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 2: It was just a damn perse and it was her

1392
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 2: money to waste. Yeah, people were saying like, don't get

1393
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 2: the purse, give your money to everybody else. And it's like,

1394
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 2: so she been giving money to people more than this

1395
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 2: fucking person. And but you know what it is the

1396
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 2: way she was giving because you know, because let's go

1397
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 2: in the Cardi's part of this. In my opinion, from

1398
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 2: the outside looking in, she was doing a lot of

1399
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 2: shit for the Internet too, So this is kind of

1400
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 2: unspoken contract you signed with the internet when you are like, hey,

1401
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 2: I'm with y'all, I'm one of y'all. Look at me,

1402
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 2: I'm giving money away. Isn't it fun and shit like that.

1403
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 2: It's like, yes, that's dope, that's cool. But then those

1404
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 2: motherfuckers start thinking of it like wait a minute, power

1405
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 2: dynamics wise, you're acknowledging us, you're letting us know that

1406
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 2: what we think and how we feel and how we

1407
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 2: communicate to you affects you. Now, you would think that

1408
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 2: would be beautiful, because hey, that's what the Internet and

1409
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,520
Speaker 2: social media was made for, but that's not how it works.

1410
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 2: What it then becomes is just now a mandate. You

1411
01:08:55,280 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 2: owe us, bitch, you owe us. We made it, not

1412
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 2: your talent, not your hard work, not your creativity, not

1413
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 2: you would have made it anyway, not none of this shit.

1414
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 2: We made you.

1415
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 3: Your success is our success.

1416
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:15,759
Speaker 2: You helping, acknowledging and talking directly to us, you reading

1417
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 2: our comments or responding to them in any way, you

1418
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 2: let us know. And when we decide to pull a

1419
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 2: rug from under you, we know you will feel that.

1420
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 3: And so that's what it becomes.

1421
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 2: And you see the cycle player out with so many

1422
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 2: people that that's what happens. So you let these people

1423
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 2: know that they matter to you, and then these motherfuckers

1424
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 2: can't wait to be like, Okay.

1425
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 3: Well fuck you.

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01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 2: You know.

1427
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 3: I don't think that's true of every group.

1428
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah, but of the general Internet in general.

1429
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 2: The world excuse towards meanness, e'xcus, towards vanity. And the

1430
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 2: way it loves you is it loves you like a stalker.

1431
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 2: When you're somewhat famous, it doesn't love you. It doesn't

1432
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 2: love you with like a healthy symbio. It's like, no,

1433
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 2: I love you, and no one else can have you.

1434
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 2: I will kill you before you fucking can leave me

1435
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 2: type of way. If I can't have you, nobody can.

1436
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 2: I didn't know the backstory of true Kitchen. I only

1437
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 2: saw him go into his hotel speech on camera. But

1438
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 2: if someone asked you to stop doing something in their

1439
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 2: establishment and your answer is to standing on the furniture,

1440
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 2: then that's appropriate, inappropriate. He's right, he wouldn't do that

1441
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 2: and other we wouldn't do that in other establishments. But

1442
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 2: on the other hand, he went a little too far

1443
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 2: with the speech. Everyone in the restaurant caught strays. He

1444
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 2: could have just addressed to offend us, told Tom, told

1445
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 2: time to lead, told him time to leave, instead of

1446
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 2: going into a Umar Johnson's speech. Y'all, I agree with

1447
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 2: all that it was. It was a Facebook me. Everybody

1448
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 2: was out of pocket.

1449
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 3: You know, this ship where you had to turn into

1450
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 3: like we twork in church.

1451
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,759
Speaker 2: Who gives a fuck? Like, okay, come on, that's not true,

1452
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 2: Like like.

1453
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 3: We stand on the we standing on the furniture, rude, Chris,

1454
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 3: we don't, we don't know you.

1455
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1456
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 2: Wait, well, well hip hop was playing. Yeah, hip hop

1457
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 2: plays in a lot of places that we don't. We

1458
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 2: don't do all that ship too. I've been places where

1459
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 2: hip hop music was on, and we didn't do that.

1460
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 2: Come on out, come on now. It wasn't a club

1461
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 2: or lounge. It just they was having fun.

1462
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 3: It got a little our pocket. Then he fucking came

1463
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 3: and and.

1464
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 2: And went full crazy Joe on everybody and lost the room. Meanwhile,

1465
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 2: the motherfuckers still booked right in a pandemic and a

1466
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 2: goddamn pandorosa. Lastly, if you're if you, if you let

1467
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 2: Future row dog you, this's basically asking to be another

1468
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 2: one that's disrespected the baby mamas. I can't feel sorry

1469
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 2: for them. Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at with

1470
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 2: it now. I'm not gonna make it all the way

1471
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 2: to that woke you fuck Future. I'm just like, are

1472
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 2: we supposed to take these complaints? Seriously? We ma'am? We

1473
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 2: all knew.

1474
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 3: Did you not see the eight examples before you?

1475
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 4: Apparently? Now where have you been?

1476
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 2: Can you please point the Future's happy baby mother who's

1477
01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 2: happy with that relationship with him? Okay, have you ever

1478
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 2: stood on the furnit at a nice restaurant? Now, yes,

1479
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 2: and I was twerking yes, but for other reasons a

1480
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:10,879
Speaker 2: nice restaurant?

1481
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 3: You think I got that CARDI B money or haha, No.

1482
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 2: Eighty percent say no, uh no, sixteen percent say a

1483
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 2: nice restaurant. You think I got that CARDI B money.

1484
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 2: Then four percent say yes, they did stand on furniture

1485
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 2: at a restaurant, but for different reasons, and zero percent

1486
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 2: say they were standing in talking. So yeah, I think

1487
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 2: that's a pretty good cross section. I don't think the

1488
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 2: standing on furniture trking crowd is as big as Twitter

1489
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 2: tried to make it out.

1490
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 3: Mean leather chainsaw Texas Fantasy.

1491
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1492
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,640
Speaker 3: Four comments on this episode, episode.

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01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 2: Twenty two thirty four, Classic Garden Be Lover says, Hello

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Speaker 2: Rod and Karen Rod, here you talk about the Tuskegee

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01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 2: Experiment podcast reminded me of the comment I've been listening

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01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 2: to the five part series the scene you post about

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01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 2: it on Twitter. It was excellent.

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01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 3: Especially liked how the.

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01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 2: Podcast connected the historical treatment of black people by the

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01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 2: government and medical professionals to black people not seeking treatment

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01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 2: during the continuing Even if not still focused on AIDS epidemic,

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01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 2: this history clearly plays into what is happening during the

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01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:20,759
Speaker 2: Corona virus pandemic, especially like the discussion on black infant

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01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 2: mortality and deaths of Black women post childbirth. This is

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01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 2: the first time I heard a confirmed, a confirmed of

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01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 2: what I think other Black Americans feel. There's something about

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01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 2: this country that contributes to these things. Hearing that African

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01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 2: women who come to America at the same level of

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01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 2: infant mortality rates post childbirth deaths as white women, but

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01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 2: by the next generation that children are where all Black

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Speaker 2: Americans are was chilling.

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Speaker 3: I was so impressed.

1513
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 2: I've downloaded American Scandal Story of Native Americans and I

1514
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 2: will be diving into it beginning this weekend. Thanks again

1515
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 2: for the recommendation. It's a great podcast. Great podcast. Ms.

1516
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 2: Mary Smile says, regarding the married over sixty five dudes,

1517
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 2: you also been married through times.

1518
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 3: Maybe she doesn't want to deal with that baggage either.

1519
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it makes sense on his side,

1520
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 2: right he marry anybody praying this south?

1521
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 6: She's like, you want you want to ring?

1522
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 4: And she was like no, like.

1523
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 3: What is taking so long?

1524
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,679
Speaker 5: And my thing it might be a reason why because

1525
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 5: we're hearing his story, So who knows how she feels.

1526
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 3: She might like, well this story. They I think they talked,

1527
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 3: both of them.

1528
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, remember she had a quote, Yeah, she had

1529
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 5: quotes too. But yeah, it's just one of those things

1530
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 5: where you.

1531
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 2: Just never know.

1532
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 4: Even with that, you just never know all of the details.

1533
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have to go find his ex wives and

1534
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 2: see what they got to say. Yeah, let's see Kim

1535
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 2: Dock responding to this comment. Right, that sixty five year

1536
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 2: old man sounds like he would cramp her style completely.

1537
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 2: She just want to dress and rest. That's it. Bruh.

1538
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 4: Come on, go play bingo.

1539
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 2: Serve your purpose for her, edify her life, and keep

1540
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 2: the nagging and stressed to a minimum. I remember Rod

1541
01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 2: reading the article about singer older men versus single older women.

1542
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 2: With regard to life span, single older women were healthier

1543
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 2: and live longer for their lives. Listening to that horrendous

1544
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:08,599
Speaker 2: relationship expert talk to that successful black woman who thought

1545
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 2: she was a six plus this sixty five year old man.

1546
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 2: There's so many conflicting messages out there. Self assurance and

1547
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 2: knowing what you need out of a future partner and

1548
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 2: being honest about that, but also being prepared to cut

1549
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 2: it if the person doesn't respect you. Respect what you

1550
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:25,480
Speaker 2: bring to the table is key plus, Like, whoope, this sixty.

1551
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 3: Five year old woman don't want nobody in her house?

1552
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. All my friends say that that's like goals. They're like, listen,

1553
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 2: two different houses. I don't want no new niggas, Okay,

1554
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:37,719
Speaker 2: I don' want to be a do and I want

1555
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 2: to do even he says. I'm from a town in

1556
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 2: North Carolina where the black the blacks live on one

1557
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 2: side of town and the whites on another. We didn't

1558
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:46,639
Speaker 2: have a grocery store, but had two churches, and everyone

1559
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 2: in the country as country as fuck. But I still

1560
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 2: call it home, even though I've been up north for

1561
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 2: some years now. And the poll was which is basically

1562
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 2: what she was responding to. Do you feel defensively where

1563
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 2: you're from? Yes?

1564
01:15:57,439 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 5: No?

1565
01:15:57,760 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 3: Or I hate where I'm from care?

1566
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, I think I'm kind of a no. Damn.

1567
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 8: I don't know.

1568
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 5: And when you talk about like Charlotte, No, But when

1569
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:12,759
Speaker 5: you talk about like down South in general, yes, depend

1570
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:13,639
Speaker 5: on what we're talking about.

1571
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm a no, but I don't know.

1572
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 3: Maybe I am.

1573
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1574
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 4: I have to think about that one because I could

1575
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 4: be sensitated. I'm not gonna lie.

1576
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 2: I know you are care and it was obvious from

1577
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 2: the rank you did on the show that day. But

1578
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 2: I'll just say it in general. For myself, I don't

1579
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 2: know because because I remember when North Carolina had the

1580
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 2: like LGBTQ bill, I was like, yeah, man, fuck our state,

1581
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 2: Like I don't this isn't good.

1582
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 3: Like you know, I don't think I.

1583
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 2: Have the attachment to it in that type of way

1584
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 2: because it's just like it's happenstance.

1585
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 3: I was even born down here.

1586
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 2: But you know, at the same time, I hate when

1587
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 2: people vilify, especially black voters in the South and shit

1588
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 2: like that.

1589
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 3: So you know, or try to tell me how much.

1590
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 2: Better than North is than the South that then something

1591
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 2: will flare up in me. Is I just wouldn't call

1592
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 2: it defensiveness of the South, just more like because I

1593
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 2: feel like if the opposite happened, which it never does.

1594
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 2: But someone was talking about how the South was so

1595
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 2: much better than the North, I think I'd be the

1596
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 2: other way where I'm like, nah, North, the South got

1597
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 2: problems too, I agree, but that just me anyway. Yes,

1598
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 2: defensive where you're from forty percent, no, fifty seven percent,

1599
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,680
Speaker 2: not defensive where they're from. And I hate where I'm

1600
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 2: from three percent. I understand that too.

1601
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:30,799
Speaker 3: God damn America. Brittany.

1602
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 2: Brittany says, I said, I hate where I'm from, and

1603
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 2: I do. I'm only living here again because of family things.

1604
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm from Fort Worth, Texas, where these

1605
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 2: dummies either don't believe in COVID nineteen or they don't

1606
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:43,679
Speaker 2: care about living. And I'm ninety eight point five percent

1607
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 2: sure I asked them cousins of just people I know

1608
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 2: in that True kitchen nonsense and Dallas having fun and

1609
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 2: catching catching COVID to take back to the parents or grandparents.

1610
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 2: That's why my kids and I stay home and don't

1611
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 2: fool with folks. And I've only heard True has bad

1612
01:17:57,320 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 2: customer service and the food is too high, but it's

1613
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 2: too but it's good. My sister and husband spent two

1614
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars on two meals and drinks and

1615
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 2: the wait is always too long. Anyways, now just type

1616
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 2: it too much. All I want to say is I

1617
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 2: hated hear By y'all. I also did not listen to

1618
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 2: this episode yet, so my comment most likely has nothing

1619
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 2: to do with it. Okay by for real now, Actually, Brittany,

1620
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 2: you was pretty on point. Ms. Barnes says, once upon

1621
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 2: a time I didn't want to claim and see but

1622
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 2: I got older. We have so much flavor here. I

1623
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 2: mean in Charlotte, for example, we have an award winning

1624
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 2: podcast couple. You may have heard of them. I think

1625
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,640
Speaker 2: the couple's named Reggie and his wife cart and they

1626
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 2: are sponsored by RV's.

1627
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 3: So Close, So Close.

1628
01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 2: Alicia says, although I feel indifferent about where I'm from

1629
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 2: Cobb County, Georgia, where when the police pull you over,

1630
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 2: no matter what, they always call for back, extra, back up,

1631
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 2: and where white people are still proud of their Confederate roots,

1632
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 2: I will get hell of the physics or somebody trying

1633
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 2: to talk bad about it. I mean sure, I mean sure,

1634
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:58,719
Speaker 2: you have to deal with the well meaning but still

1635
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 2: racist white people. But that's everywhere. Yeah, maybe I am

1636
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 2: the physical where I'm from now and think about it,

1637
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 2: you know, because if I guess, oh man, I think

1638
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,600
Speaker 2: about that. One man. Doug me says, Yes, most of

1639
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 2: my family moved into great Migration to Detroit, even though

1640
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 2: I spent most of my thirty six years outside of Detroit.

1641
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 2: I'll always be protective of it, except when it's joke time.

1642
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 2: That's only because Detroit, like Chicago, is used as cod

1643
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 2: for blacks. Granted, there's been wild, wild things people in Detroit. Damn,

1644
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 2: I got family that contributed to some of that wild shit.

1645
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 3: Oh you know, carmit.

1646
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 2: But Detroit did ask for white flight, did ask for

1647
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 2: didn't ask for white flight. Segregation, a lack of state

1648
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 2: and corporate investment, corruption, and white politicians going on record

1649
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 2: saying they want Detroit and Detroit is destroyed the paragraph,

1650
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 2: the paraphrase, mister, both sides. Van Jones, don't call them

1651
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 2: Detroiters called him niggas. That was not Van Jones has

1652
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 2: said that old black man, I forget his name.

1653
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:57,440
Speaker 3: It wasn't. Yeah, Van Jones.

1654
01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 5: No, we know we can't give him credit for for

1655
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 5: that beautiful quote.

1656
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 2: Yes, let's never do that. Yeah, it was Aaron Burnett

1657
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 2: talking to Calls. Yeah, talking to Calls Stokes. Yeah, Carl

1658
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 2: Stokes said it. Yeah, Man Jones and Joe never had

1659
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 2: a moment that really his life. He would never come on,

1660
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 2: come on calling him thugs, calling him, just call him niggas.

1661
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 2: Just car was in his bag, Lakita said, per the poul,

1662
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 2: I answered, no. But every now and then I get

1663
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 2: people asking there's black people in Nebraska, bitch, we everywhere.

1664
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 2: That's less of that's less a defense of where I'm

1665
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 2: from and a reminder that we out here. Yeah, I

1666
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 2: feel you.

1667
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 6: My college John.

1668
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, my college roommate was from Nebraska, and uh. I

1669
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 2: used to Uh. I used to make that joke from

1670
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:54,719
Speaker 2: Belly where methad Man rolled up. It was like, it's

1671
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 2: just an illest nigga in Nebraska. You bout it about

1672
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 2: it food like I used to. I used to make

1673
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 2: jokes with John like that. He didn't like them. Jukes

1674
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 2: all right, Episode twenty two to thirty five award winning

1675
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 2: podcast Rex Sola says, congrats on the award. It's so

1676
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 2: well deserved. I have a feeling it's only the first

1677
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 2: of many. I'm glad you mentioned the Umbrella Academy change

1678
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 2: in Elliott Page's past credits. I thought that was cool too.

1679
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 2: I hope that becomes common practice and celebrities come out.

1680
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 2: I noticed you use his dead name a lot, though,

1681
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 2: which can be really painful for trans folks. I understand

1682
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 2: slipping and using his previous name, so I thought i'd

1683
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 2: reach out. I want to help you avoid making the

1684
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 2: same mistakes I made with left the trans community.

1685
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 5: We was going and I think this, I was going

1686
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:35,719
Speaker 5: back and forth because the just the reference.

1687
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, because I think that's another one that was

1688
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 2: kind of like Twitter things, where we want a police

1689
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 2: language so much that we don't give a fuck what

1690
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 2: their attention is or what you're trying to illustrate. I

1691
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 2: was trying to make a specific point of how the

1692
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:53,959
Speaker 2: world was viewing Elliott Page at that time. And honestly,

1693
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 2: you know, you can write in an email and write

1694
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 2: what I should have said and try to make that

1695
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 2: make sense, because I don't think you can. You know

1696
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 2: what I mean to be like, Okay, So nineteen ninety eight,

1697
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 2: Elliott Page, I'm not gonna say this. I'm not gonna

1698
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:12,680
Speaker 2: say what people thought at the time. Like at some

1699
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 2: point it becomes more confusing than to just be like, Okay,

1700
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:18,919
Speaker 2: at this point in time, this is how people saw.

1701
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 3: Elliott Page as a woman and as Ellen.

1702
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 2: And it was my point was to point out the

1703
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:31,719
Speaker 2: progression in real time of how this person either quote

1704
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 2: unquote evolved or in a different sense sort of like

1705
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 2: bloomed into this, like, Hey, this is who I am,

1706
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 2: and we don't know that this is it. Like five

1707
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 2: years from now, we could be on some whole other

1708
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 2: thing like Elliott Page could be Hey, this is how

1709
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 2: I feel, you know, but I think it's important, especially

1710
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 2: for us it's just gender people, to point out like,

1711
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 2: this is wow, this is how things happen. This is

1712
01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 2: how you can look back at this situation and this

1713
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 2: and this is why it is so dope that they said, hey,

1714
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 2: Elliott Page, We're gonna change all of your credits, because

1715
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 2: that doesn't often happen because many of us SINS people

1716
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:13,680
Speaker 2: do not even understand it, right, And I think you

1717
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 2: have to recognize the reality of it rather than to

1718
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 2: just do what you know, let's police the language on it.

1719
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 2: If you see me Dad naming somebody like currently like, well,

1720
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 2: I'm like, because what really happened was troll people. People

1721
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 2: that don't respect trans people. They dead name people to

1722
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 2: hurt them. They go, I refuse to acknowledge that your

1723
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,759
Speaker 2: name is blank, that you are, this is your gender.

1724
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 2: I will Dad name you on purpose that that is

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01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 2: not what I was doing. And it's very important to

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01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:43,640
Speaker 2: just note that, you know, And I think that's what

1727
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 2: happens when we try to establish these very black and

1728
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 2: white rules of it's always bad when you do this,

1729
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 2: It's not always bad in my opinion, you know. And

1730
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:53,680
Speaker 2: it's same thing with race, same thing with a lot

1731
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 2: of stuff where it's like there's Situationally, I can see

1732
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 2: why you would say that, you know, it's like how

1733
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 2: to me, it's the difference between saying, like, the reason

1734
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 2: that Caitlyn Jenner is so beholden to white supremacy Republican

1735
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 2: power structure is because Caitlyn Jenner got to experience a

1736
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 2: lot of life as a white straight man to most people.

1737
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 2: So to say, a person who went through life where

1738
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 2: people recognize them as Bruce Jenner, an Olympic medalist, gold

1739
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 2: standard of white cis had maleness, then goes, hey, actually

1740
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 2: I am trans I'm Caitlyn, and they go, okay, all right,

1741
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 2: we're gonna recognize you as that, So what are your beliefs?

1742
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 2: We're gonna recognize you as Caitlyn. We're gonna recognize like

1743
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 2: and you know, this is always where Chappelle and them

1744
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 2: get upset with because.

1745
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:54,520
Speaker 3: Kaitlyn Jenner got to be recognized partially.

1746
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 2: Because of the legacy of Bruce, because people could not

1747
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:01,799
Speaker 2: detach themselves from from like the privilege of that experience.

1748
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:05,719
Speaker 2: People were like, I'm okay, I will grant you your trends.

1749
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:10,879
Speaker 2: What do you call it? Agency? But I won't recognize

1750
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 2: it for other people, right, you know, because because to me,

1751
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 2: I see more in common with you.

1752
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 3: I played golf, I you know, I am rich. I

1753
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 3: you know that kind of shit.

1754
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 2: So I think it's important because and that's why we

1755
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:24,719
Speaker 2: come here with these conversations.

1756
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 3: It's important because we need to be.

1757
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 2: Not only honest with it, but it needs to be transparent.

1758
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 2: How you see these conversations. We can't just be on

1759
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 2: here so woke that we was like, whatever was a

1760
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:37,839
Speaker 2: confusing conversation?

1761
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 3: What the fuck was were I talking about?

1762
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 2: He just said Elliott page thirty seven times and we

1763
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 2: ain't know when, what, how?

1764
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:46,680
Speaker 3: But that is not what happened. That wasn't, you know.

1765
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 2: So it's like I needed to be detailed with that,

1766
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:52,720
Speaker 2: but I wasn't, you know. At no point was I'm like,

1767
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 2: this person is no longer they them, this person is

1768
01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:00,120
Speaker 2: not Elliott. I'm a this you know, which I think

1769
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 2: is the point of why dead naming is offensive. All right,

1770
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 2: Kim Doc says, congrats on the award for not making

1771
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 2: that website summer jam screen. Yeah, good grief, and they

1772
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:14,600
Speaker 2: spend hot fire on these folks. I have only the

1773
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:17,759
Speaker 2: following review of them. Informative allows you to dodge bullets,

1774
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 2: keeps you out of Maggie establishments. Let the chop a

1775
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 2: ring on these racist biggest and Trump supporters. They're doing

1776
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:25,759
Speaker 2: a solid for the community. Iconic and so well written

1777
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 2: and constructed. Yeah, we've read on the pregame.

1778
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 5: We had time on pre game the Hall of Shame

1779
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 5: from QC Nerve and it was the fire even.

1780
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 2: He says, congratulations on your war winning podcast. I'll be

1781
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 2: sure to see your Arby's gift cards so you two

1782
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:44,639
Speaker 2: can celebrate property. We'll be looking for it in the mail,

1783
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 2: you know, and give it to give it to some

1784
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 2: young you know, up and coming person that you know

1785
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 2: needs some need some food.

1786
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 3: Uh, let's see. The poem was, do you think black

1787
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 3: people get superpowers? On the sostice? Yes or no?

1788
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 2: Okare no? All right? I like how you had to

1789
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 2: think about it so long. Sixty three percent say no,

1790
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 2: thirty seven percent say yes. Wow. A lot of y'all

1791
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 2: think it's gonna a lot disappointed people. On the twenty second,

1792
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 2: it will be Rex So'la says, I'm gonna wish it

1793
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 2: it to exist. As if I fail, at least I

1794
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 2: tried Kim Doc says, you already know. I can't wait

1795
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:22,520
Speaker 2: to stunt on the holes of my powers. You're bish

1796
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 2: Lakeith Lakita says, I think we all loved love Craft

1797
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 2: a little too much, but wouldn't it be nice? And

1798
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 2: Stephen says, you both talked about your desire for black superpowers,

1799
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 2: having me truly cracking up, especially the one about being

1800
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 2: able to fit anything into a Danish ten so real

1801
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:42,679
Speaker 2: so real, Danish ten's medicine, pill bottles and country Country

1802
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 2: Crockett tubs.

1803
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 5: Yes, cunch of cocket tubs. I remember, though you ain't

1804
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:48,640
Speaker 5: know what they was gonna be in a me.

1805
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 2: There was never butter, don't forget Crown royal bags. That's

1806
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:54,640
Speaker 2: a power that we have inherited from our ancestors and

1807
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:57,719
Speaker 2: only fully comes out comes to fruition when we get older.

1808
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 2: I heard tales of a man in his mid seventies

1809
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 2: being able to fix a car, repair broken toilet, and

1810
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 2: restore television back to life with just the items he

1811
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 2: had in his Danish tent and his glove apartment. Anyway,

1812
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:07,679
Speaker 2: love to you both.

1813
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:10,559
Speaker 4: I believe that's true.

1814
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 5: And another black superpower I wish I had is that

1815
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:17,759
Speaker 5: the Cris criscal Can that people have on the Saturday stove.

1816
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 4: Just make it where it's always fresh greasing there.

1817
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:21,599
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

1818
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 2: I can see that we had some voicemails. Let's get

1819
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 2: to these seven O four five five seven zero one

1820
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 2: eighty six. The voicemail line. I think this one was

1821
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 2: this some blank? Why is it not playing? I'm not

1822
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 2: hearing anything. Hold on, let me let me try one more.

1823
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 2: I turned the sound down on this. Something going on

1824
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 2: the spot with our Skype. Hold on one second, let

1825
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 2: me try quitting it and bringing it back up.

1826
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:58,680
Speaker 3: Oh my god, y'all.

1827
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 5: Know how Skype like the embarrasses status like y'all won't

1828
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 5: do something.

1829
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 2: It was working before I just updated. I mean, we

1830
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 2: did a call yesterday. It's working fine, all right. Let

1831
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 2: me see if this do we do this on that?

1832
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 2: It's not playing anything? All right, let me pause this

1833
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 2: and do some technical work. All right, Let's get to

1834
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 2: the voice fails now.

1835
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:29,680
Speaker 8: Big change, first time, Hey, Rody Cary cheery, big chan,

1836
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:33,880
Speaker 8: first time calling. I'm uh try to make this tweak.

1837
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:37,559
Speaker 8: I just wanted to give you a figure drivers write

1838
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:43,559
Speaker 8: the story regarding yet the ancestors and the and the

1839
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 8: Thanksgiving miscuty. So over week past week. I get with

1840
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:53,959
Speaker 8: my mom how she wanted to make the bike macaroni

1841
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 8: and cheese. So I get with her. I'm telling her that, Hey,

1842
01:29:57,240 --> 01:30:00,719
Speaker 8: I'm saying, no making to macaroni and cheese this weekend.

1843
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:04,120
Speaker 8: Out this week, I want to try something. Can you

1844
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 8: give me your recipe?

1845
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 4: She did?

1846
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:10,599
Speaker 8: Okay, cool, all right, comes to the day. I'm ready

1847
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:20,719
Speaker 8: to cook. She I yeah, oh.

1848
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:28,760
Speaker 2: The answer this voicemail? What's going on? They silence is

1849
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 2: time before you can tell us? Let me go over

1850
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 2: to the next one. You got for one more voice?

1851
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:35,599
Speaker 8: Now, hey, y'all just carry again. Sorry about that last one.

1852
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:37,840
Speaker 8: Got a little some tide and knos for training part

1853
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 8: you back? Okay, So come there, I'm ready to cook.

1854
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:44,559
Speaker 8: You never on the and she got my mom in

1855
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 8: the kitchen with me. She did me all leave there.

1856
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 8: You had a dashing south here and h in a

1857
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 8: Slidge's for the milk. He gotta kind of ie bow.

1858
01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 8: How much means you get in there because you don't

1859
01:30:57,800 --> 01:30:59,600
Speaker 8: want to put too much? But you don't want to

1860
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 8: put too no measurements, No, no, I need a chick

1861
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 8: you might need to be. It was it was just

1862
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:13,720
Speaker 8: wows pretty much everything that you said that if our

1863
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:16,800
Speaker 8: grandparents do, because they really don't want to pad down

1864
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 8: these ricipes to them. She did, So you go through

1865
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:23,920
Speaker 8: all that, I give them macaroni inches in the oven.

1866
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 8: It's it's cooking by halfway through his cooking, by halfway

1867
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:32,280
Speaker 8: through the cooking prok. Then she comes. I hope it

1868
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:35,640
Speaker 8: turns out clean enough, because I might add you not

1869
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:39,880
Speaker 8: add you add enough milk, so you might want to

1870
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:43,559
Speaker 8: check on you next time you make it. I was like, hey, Mama,

1871
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:48,760
Speaker 8: you gonna you're gonna give me a gonna don't sabotage

1872
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:50,720
Speaker 8: me because you want to be the only one that

1873
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:54,400
Speaker 8: can make the macaroni inchoes. So I hope this wasn't

1874
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 8: too rambling. I just want to let Ride know that

1875
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:00,720
Speaker 8: he was right this conspiracy with the people so they

1876
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:05,880
Speaker 8: don't get checked out as a thank you for being

1877
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 8: the plans from that long. So that's pretty much all

1878
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:12,320
Speaker 8: I had. Like I said, I love the show, Love

1879
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:16,639
Speaker 8: you guys. I listen dollar time. Yeah, y'all, just love

1880
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:19,639
Speaker 8: you guys. Y'all have a good one. And Rod taking

1881
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:26,640
Speaker 8: ea deal. So on those digrads you moved out here?

1882
01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 3: Yep?

1883
01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:32,720
Speaker 2: What was that again?

1884
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:40,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, right, that's how they do it man all right,

1885
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:41,400
Speaker 6: last one, she knew that.

1886
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:46,479
Speaker 7: M Hey, Rod and Karen. I just wanted to say,

1887
01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:49,559
Speaker 7: I'm listening to your most recent episode, and thank you

1888
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 7: so much for sharing that article about how audio only

1889
01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:59,680
Speaker 7: communication is where people are most receptive, because I know

1890
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:04,320
Speaker 7: from me I started listening to the news, especially when

1891
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:08,599
Speaker 7: things got so crazy shitty and the election heated at

1892
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:11,280
Speaker 7: this last year, and it made a huge difference for

1893
01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:14,720
Speaker 7: me being able to receive things. And I've been consuming

1894
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 7: content that way for a long time because I feel

1895
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:20,559
Speaker 7: like it's the best way to do it. And that's

1896
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 7: also how I, you know, create and put things out

1897
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:27,200
Speaker 7: in the world too. So thank you so much for

1898
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 7: validating what I already knew. That is a fantastic study,

1899
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:36,640
Speaker 7: and I hope more people start to pay attention to

1900
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:40,479
Speaker 7: that difference. So maybe we can all stop yelling at

1901
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:40,880
Speaker 7: each other.

1902
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know if you got cut off or

1903
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 2: just bos s Guitte was stripping hold on. Let me

1904
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:47,719
Speaker 2: see if I can social media.

1905
01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 7: So keep doing your awesome job, so we can all

1906
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:56,599
Speaker 7: stop yelling at each other on social media. So keep

1907
01:33:56,600 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 7: doing your awesome job. You tru the greatest. I'm so

1908
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 7: happy for your Spotify success and all that.

1909
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:11,120
Speaker 2: Thank you, Andre, and uh yeah, that's you know, we're

1910
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:13,760
Speaker 2: just trying to get it done out here. And I

1911
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 2: thought that was an interesting study too, because I it's

1912
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:18,759
Speaker 2: so weird.

1913
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:20,600
Speaker 3: It's like you know it, but you don't know it.

1914
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:24,720
Speaker 2: Because I was like, it is weird how in audio

1915
01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:30,839
Speaker 2: like a phone call or something. It's it's so much different.

1916
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:34,040
Speaker 2: It's just so I had a person on time that

1917
01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:36,800
Speaker 2: had a that had an issue with me.

1918
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:38,839
Speaker 3: They thought I had said some shit about.

1919
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 2: Them that uh you know, like I wouldn't some ship

1920
01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 2: just behind their back, just ship talking to them, just

1921
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:46,439
Speaker 2: fucking hate them, low key.

1922
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:48,559
Speaker 3: But in they face, I'll just be tripping. I'll just

1923
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 3: be telling the truth.

1924
01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:51,559
Speaker 2: But I mean and they face I'm like, oh, you're

1925
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 2: the greatest, But them behind their back like I hate you, right,

1926
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 2: And so I remember them thinking that, and so they

1927
01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 2: called me on the phone. We had what I would

1928
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:03,640
Speaker 2: call a good conversation. They seem to be, you know,

1929
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:05,720
Speaker 2: by the time we got the phone cool, and I'm like,

1930
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:07,840
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see you in real life, hang

1931
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:09,599
Speaker 2: out with you again, you know, no big deal.

1932
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:13,439
Speaker 3: And immediately after that they was.

1933
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 2: On the internet talking shit.

1934
01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 3: I'm like I don't know what the fuck happened.

1935
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Speaker 2: I was here. I mean, we're not gonna gas like

1936
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Speaker 2: each other. If I have recorded the conversation to tell

1937
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Speaker 2: you back, everybody would be like, yeah, it sound like

1938
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Speaker 2: y'all was cool it.

1939
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Speaker 3: You know.

1940
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Speaker 2: I had that happen a couple of times with people,

1941
01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 2: and I was just like, it's weird how in the

1942
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:40,439
Speaker 2: audio format because we weren't it was on the phone,

1943
01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:45,440
Speaker 2: we weren't facetiming, we weren't any there was like cordialness,

1944
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:48,040
Speaker 2: there was an understanding because you have to hear, you

1945
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 2: have to stop speaking so they can talk, you have

1946
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:54,759
Speaker 2: to respond to what they're saying and all that stuff.

1947
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:58,040
Speaker 2: And then it's like every other place, we just lose

1948
01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:01,639
Speaker 2: track of that, even in video, even in person. Sometimes

1949
01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:03,400
Speaker 2: like I'm looking at your face and I'm deciding that

1950
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:04,680
Speaker 2: it means something different than what you.

1951
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 5: Just told me, right, And I won't ask any further

1952
01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 5: questions to get a clarification.

1953
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:10,680
Speaker 4: I'll just make assumptions.

1954
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:14,920
Speaker 2: All right. We got emails. Let's get to these. Uhh.

1955
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:17,040
Speaker 2: The first email, we got a couple of gifts from

1956
01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 2: Veronica P Very okay, who says Hi, Karen Rod trying

1957
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:25,439
Speaker 2: out this Kendle gift given process first with a book

1958
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:28,160
Speaker 2: that is already on your list, love and appreciate you

1959
01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 2: both watched though you don't know me much. Sorry, sending

1960
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:33,400
Speaker 2: all my best and hoping you have a wonderful rest

1961
01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:35,639
Speaker 2: for break And it was popular culture in the age

1962
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 2: of white flight, fear and fantasy and suburban Los Angeles,

1963
01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:43,880
Speaker 2: and that was on my list. And then later she

1964
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:48,200
Speaker 2: said another one that said the gifts of imperfection, let

1965
01:36:48,240 --> 01:36:50,880
Speaker 2: go of who you think you're supposed to be and

1966
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:53,519
Speaker 2: embrace who you are by Bene Brown, because I think

1967
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:56,559
Speaker 2: she was the person that told us about Brene Brown

1968
01:36:56,720 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 2: and her books. Hi again, rid of Karenson and you

1969
01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:05,040
Speaker 2: Brene Brown's first popular book, which is what I started

1970
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 2: with too. I'll send it as an audible book too

1971
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 2: if you. If I could figure it out, and both

1972
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:12,600
Speaker 2: of them worked, and the way our audible works, I

1973
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:16,439
Speaker 2: believe we get a free book anyway. But she sent

1974
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:18,320
Speaker 2: the audible book of it as well.

1975
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Speaker 4: Thank you baby, So I'll be listening.

1976
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:22,719
Speaker 2: I think I forgot to hit the redeem the book

1977
01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 2: part of that. I will log in and do that.

1978
01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:29,679
Speaker 3: Do we use your audible mind on yours?

1979
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 2: We use mine?

1980
01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:35,160
Speaker 3: Okay, let me log in as me then okay, yeah.

1981
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:37,000
Speaker 5: Because we had two separates. He was like, we can combine.

1982
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:38,639
Speaker 5: I was like, damn, I'm over here for them.

1983
01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:39,879
Speaker 3: Boom, it's being redeemed.

1984
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, much.

1985
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 3: Like you know, Protestant Baptism. It's being redeemed.

1986
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 2: Okay, Preston right saying hello, Karen and Rod. I hope

1987
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:52,080
Speaker 2: you all are well. Thanks for the intentional miss the

1988
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:55,840
Speaker 2: International Mister Leather episode. It reminded me of the Live

1989
01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:57,559
Speaker 2: show where I had the pleasure of meeting Jack and

1990
01:37:57,600 --> 01:38:00,760
Speaker 2: his husband. It also brought back the I m L

1991
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:03,639
Speaker 2: days with while I was living in Chicago.

1992
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 3: Good times.

1993
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:07,679
Speaker 2: Have a great holiday season. No Christmas cards this year,

1994
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:08,799
Speaker 2: take care of Preston.

1995
01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:10,680
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1996
01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:15,560
Speaker 4: Yes about to say we're sitting our Christmas cards.

1997
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 2: Though, okay, care, let's this is how we start getting

1998
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:20,280
Speaker 2: a bunch of emails with addresses and ship and I'm

1999
01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:20,960
Speaker 2: not even ready.

2000
01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:22,800
Speaker 3: I'm never gonna forget.

2001
01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:24,400
Speaker 2: I'm going to mention it on the show that the

2002
01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:26,360
Speaker 2: holiday cards are coming and all this stuff. But I

2003
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:30,320
Speaker 2: just want to organize it so that when I, you know,

2004
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:34,120
Speaker 2: people start sitting in the addresses and stuff will have cards.

2005
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 3: To say it's gonna be.

2006
01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:37,280
Speaker 2: A while because we got to get some I got

2007
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:40,000
Speaker 2: some things in the works behind the scenes so that

2008
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:41,160
Speaker 2: our cars will be dope this year.

2009
01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:43,240
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna calm down over here. I'm bad.

2010
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:46,680
Speaker 5: Uh defund it's the person that do that does the

2011
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:49,040
Speaker 5: least amount of work that be all excited.

2012
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Speaker 4: So I apologize.

2013
01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:51,840
Speaker 2: No, I don't mind the excitement, just saying I'm taking

2014
01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:54,879
Speaker 2: care of it and I have a plan defund. Messaging

2015
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:58,920
Speaker 2: John says, welcome back, Karen and Rodd. On the pregame show,

2016
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Speaker 2: you mentioned how much most politicians have a showed the

2017
01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:04,600
Speaker 2: defund language, including Warren, Burnie and Obama. I'll take it

2018
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:06,759
Speaker 2: a step further. You know who else avoids the phrase,

2019
01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:10,200
Speaker 2: the same people who use it constantly on Twitter. Here's

2020
01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:12,800
Speaker 2: an example. Los Angeles just passed Measure J, which is

2021
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:15,519
Speaker 2: essentially a defund the Police bill to change LA's budgeting

2022
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:18,439
Speaker 2: to better fund social services and reduce police and etc.

2023
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 2: Local activists had a huge role in shaping the bill

2024
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:23,160
Speaker 2: and building the coalition to support it and sell it

2025
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:25,920
Speaker 2: to voters. A lot of these activists are very vocal

2026
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 2: online about how everyone should use the literal words defund,

2027
01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:31,400
Speaker 2: the police and will argue with anyone who suggests otherwise.

2028
01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:34,200
Speaker 2: But when it came time to actually build the promotional

2029
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:36,840
Speaker 2: website and the ads, guess how many times they use

2030
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:39,960
Speaker 2: the phrase zero. So when it comes to the time

2031
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:42,760
Speaker 2: to make the smart political move with success failure on

2032
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:46,920
Speaker 2: the line, even they realize the phrasing can alienate people,

2033
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 2: which makes the online posturing so much more performative. It's

2034
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 2: ironic because these are the same people who write lengthy

2035
01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:55,559
Speaker 2: Twitter screeds about white fragility and how white voters will

2036
01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:58,000
Speaker 2: use all kinds of excuses to avoid any oversight or

2037
01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:02,080
Speaker 2: accountability of the police, which are absolutely true. But then

2038
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:04,559
Speaker 2: those truths go right out the window when anyone suggests

2039
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:07,840
Speaker 2: the political messaging should be crafted to navigate those truths

2040
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:12,880
Speaker 2: and prioritize an actual victory rather than feeling righteous. Yeah,

2041
01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:18,320
Speaker 2: it's interesting too, and one of the things I think. Obviously,

2042
01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:20,280
Speaker 2: I don't hope this comes to pass, but it's something

2043
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:22,679
Speaker 2: I've been thinking about, and I think in a couple

2044
01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:24,960
Speaker 2: of places it already has come to pass. But I

2045
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:28,920
Speaker 2: think the next level is gonna be some politician using

2046
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:34,559
Speaker 2: the defunded activist language passing something calling it defund the police.

2047
01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:36,160
Speaker 2: And then when you take a look at it, like

2048
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 2: this didn't do shit, but they will be able to

2049
01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:40,760
Speaker 2: go on the podium and go, but I passed the

2050
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:43,519
Speaker 2: defund the police bill, and we'll be like, well, the

2051
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:46,240
Speaker 2: reason you passed it is because it really didn't do that,

2052
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:47,559
Speaker 2: you know.

2053
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:48,080
Speaker 3: What I mean.

2054
01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:50,639
Speaker 2: But it's like I put the name on the bill

2055
01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:54,559
Speaker 2: I want and that I'm gonna be the I proved

2056
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:56,000
Speaker 2: you can run on defund the police.

2057
01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:59,120
Speaker 3: And it's like, you know, I think it was Minnesota

2058
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:00,040
Speaker 3: maybe that had.

2059
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:03,120
Speaker 2: Had a city where they quote unquote defunded the police,

2060
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:05,080
Speaker 2: and then you look at it and it's like, y'all

2061
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:07,200
Speaker 2: only took like a million dollars out of the budget.

2062
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:11,280
Speaker 2: Y'all relented on that shit, even like this is not

2063
01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:14,000
Speaker 2: really a defund you said. You can say you passed it,

2064
01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:18,880
Speaker 2: but it's not. It didn't do it. Anyway, When the

2065
01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:20,920
Speaker 2: topic of defund came up here locally, one of my

2066
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:24,000
Speaker 2: favorite black women organizers immediately said, Nah, that shit won't

2067
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:26,080
Speaker 2: sell with the white people. Let's just push the same

2068
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:28,960
Speaker 2: thing in different words. We have a city council person

2069
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:31,679
Speaker 2: who is incredibly pro police. We make Blue Lives Matter

2070
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:32,760
Speaker 2: jokes about him all the time.

2071
01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:33,479
Speaker 3: He's that bad.

2072
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:35,640
Speaker 2: But when the topic of measure J came up, he

2073
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:37,960
Speaker 2: was like, Ooh, this is a good idea. Police shouldn't

2074
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:39,560
Speaker 2: have to do all this stuff. Let's go to the

2075
01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:42,960
Speaker 2: route of these problems, etc. I've also met high rank

2076
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:46,880
Speaker 2: and law enforcement officers who told me that the things

2077
01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:49,559
Speaker 2: that like building reliable housing and fundamental health treatment for

2078
01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:51,920
Speaker 2: the homeless and mentally ill people is something that a

2079
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:54,439
Speaker 2: lot of his fellow officers would support because frankly, they'd

2080
01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:57,879
Speaker 2: rather be investigating crimes and they know that the homeless

2081
01:41:57,880 --> 01:42:00,639
Speaker 2: and mentally ill really need things that the police aren't

2082
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:04,320
Speaker 2: qualified to address, right Yeah, because the only thing they

2083
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:06,040
Speaker 2: can do is arrest you and put you in jail.

2084
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:09,160
Speaker 2: That's it. Which is just to say that even people

2085
01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:11,639
Speaker 2: who are about as pro police as they as it gets,

2086
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:14,479
Speaker 2: show that they might be open to supporting the concept

2087
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:15,760
Speaker 2: if sold in the right way.

2088
01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:17,920
Speaker 3: The words can make a huge difference.

2089
01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:19,679
Speaker 2: Sorry for the long email, helpe you out of lovely

2090
01:42:19,720 --> 01:42:22,840
Speaker 2: We go off, love you both, John, thank you. Yeah, Nah,

2091
01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:27,360
Speaker 2: it's no problem with this email. And Yeah, the interesting

2092
01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:31,240
Speaker 2: thing to me is like I want to I'd rather

2093
01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:34,800
Speaker 2: get what I want to accomplish than than necessarily have

2094
01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 2: to have, like my back padded the whole way. Agreed,

2095
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:41,400
Speaker 2: it's just weird that that not weird, but that.

2096
01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:43,160
Speaker 4: Is a goal we're trying to accomplish.

2097
01:42:43,320 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 2: It's not weird, but that is literally the opposite of Twitter.

2098
01:42:47,080 --> 01:42:50,080
Speaker 2: It's the opposite of Facebook. It's the opposite of social media.

2099
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:53,360
Speaker 2: Is social media is about feeling good over everything else.

2100
01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:54,600
Speaker 4: That's a social part of it.

2101
01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's and I think that's the big disconnect

2102
01:42:57,880 --> 01:42:59,360
Speaker 2: when it comes to this kind of stuff, is like,

2103
01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:04,280
Speaker 2: but we feel good saying it's like, but we're losing,

2104
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:06,639
Speaker 2: we're not gonna get when we were not gonna even

2105
01:43:06,680 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 2: get what we want.

2106
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:10,240
Speaker 4: Mm and then you're gonna continue to complain.

2107
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:14,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tianna says hi Rid and Karen. I'm Tiana from NYC.

2108
01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:16,519
Speaker 2: I love your show. I've only been listening for the

2109
01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:19,400
Speaker 2: last the two last late weeks at work, but I

2110
01:43:19,439 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 2: love how open and rob The series is nothing glamorous,

2111
01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:24,320
Speaker 2: just intelligent, funny, people's simplicity.

2112
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:26,360
Speaker 3: It's something we're missing in today's culture.

2113
01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:29,120
Speaker 2: Also, I like to thank you to send a thank

2114
01:43:29,120 --> 01:43:31,840
Speaker 2: you to Karen for being so transparent about her reading

2115
01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:34,439
Speaker 2: experience in college. I legitimately had to read something three

2116
01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:36,840
Speaker 2: times to retain it. I always fell alone in that

2117
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:40,560
Speaker 2: or like I needed vitamins to focus better while experiencing it.

2118
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:42,760
Speaker 2: It's great to know someone else had these experiences too.

2119
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:43,799
Speaker 2: Thanks for sharing, Tianna.

2120
01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:47,920
Speaker 4: Thank you. And I remember one time.

2121
01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:51,479
Speaker 5: And me and her had to this particular person. We

2122
01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:53,600
Speaker 5: actually were really close in college. We had to I

2123
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:57,600
Speaker 5: had to quit fucking with her because like, uh, she

2124
01:43:57,680 --> 01:43:58,920
Speaker 5: would be like, can you read?

2125
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:01,320
Speaker 4: What's wrong with you? Are you lexics? I was like, bets,

2126
01:44:01,479 --> 01:44:02,320
Speaker 4: damn's wrong with you?

2127
01:44:03,439 --> 01:44:07,639
Speaker 5: And you know, because it was just like why ain't

2128
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:11,680
Speaker 5: you catching on? Like what's wrong with you? And you know,

2129
01:44:12,360 --> 01:44:15,640
Speaker 5: I'm older now, but back then.

2130
01:44:15,360 --> 01:44:18,439
Speaker 4: You know, it took me longer.

2131
01:44:18,160 --> 01:44:21,679
Speaker 5: Too, because I was very naive to just people in general,

2132
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:27,760
Speaker 5: and so once I realized, oh, this is insulting, I

2133
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:28,840
Speaker 5: had to just cut her off.

2134
01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:30,719
Speaker 4: But yeah, that struggle is real.

2135
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:34,240
Speaker 5: And instead of you know, people helping and assisting and

2136
01:44:34,280 --> 01:44:37,959
Speaker 5: things like that, people find it easier to uh critique

2137
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:39,880
Speaker 5: and pick and act like you're the dummy.

2138
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:44,760
Speaker 2: Yeah I think so too. We got another And it's

2139
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:47,960
Speaker 2: the thing too, like people take us for granted, and

2140
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:49,760
Speaker 2: you give some people a hang up with that shit

2141
01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:53,519
Speaker 2: always like yeah, like you take it for granted. You know,

2142
01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:56,599
Speaker 2: it's like how if a kid has a stutter or something,

2143
01:44:56,720 --> 01:44:59,280
Speaker 2: or like people do that shit, but it's like you

2144
01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:02,679
Speaker 2: also make in it like a mental hurdle in addition

2145
01:45:02,760 --> 01:45:06,759
Speaker 2: to just the one they're already dealing with. It works.

2146
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:09,559
Speaker 2: This is from Kim, who says, hey, RD and Caen,

2147
01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:12,320
Speaker 2: I want to you to know that I'm planning to

2148
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:15,040
Speaker 2: take the coronavirus vaccine when available. I even got my

2149
01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:17,479
Speaker 2: youngest daughter to consider it. My skepticism was based on

2150
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:20,320
Speaker 2: the issues I have had with the flu vaccine. I

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Speaker 2: have become definitely ill the last two times I took it.

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01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:25,840
Speaker 2: I had to take short term disability both times. Listen

2153
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:29,040
Speaker 2: to you to use your platform to encourage people to

2154
01:45:29,080 --> 01:45:31,720
Speaker 2: take it won me over. For me, not wanting to

2155
01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:34,120
Speaker 2: take it based on unfounded concerns made me feel like

2156
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:36,600
Speaker 2: an anti vaccer. I'm not one and don't want to

2157
01:45:36,640 --> 01:45:38,800
Speaker 2: be that person. I enjoyed the podcast regularly. Thank y'all

2158
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 2: for all y'all deal hard emoji. Yeah, I will say

2159
01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:44,160
Speaker 2: this is different to me than just being like I'm

2160
01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:47,479
Speaker 2: not taking it because I'm black, Like I think you know,

2161
01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:50,840
Speaker 2: something like that where you had two reactions to it

2162
01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:55,880
Speaker 2: to flu vaccine, and they're saying that the covid vaccine

2163
01:45:55,960 --> 01:46:01,960
Speaker 2: will actually give you a little bit more like it

2164
01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:04,400
Speaker 2: might hit you a little harder than the flu vaccine,

2165
01:46:04,479 --> 01:46:06,960
Speaker 2: and you said, deathly ill you are. I think you

2166
01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:09,880
Speaker 2: should consult your physician before you you know, just do that,

2167
01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:13,800
Speaker 2: because it sounds like your reasons are different than Tuskegee

2168
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 2: experiment or a white person made it, which is those

2169
01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:20,880
Speaker 2: reasons to me are ridiculous. That being said, you know,

2170
01:46:22,680 --> 01:46:26,000
Speaker 2: obviously COVID is dangerous and deadly and.

2171
01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:29,920
Speaker 3: If you're a person that has pre existing conditions.

2172
01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:33,200
Speaker 2: Could kill you as well. But I would say you

2173
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:36,160
Speaker 2: should probably consult your physician before that. I mean, I'm

2174
01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:38,360
Speaker 2: assuming everyone's gonna have to do it to get the shots.

2175
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:40,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm assuming too.

2176
01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:44,200
Speaker 5: And also for people, there are people, a small percentage

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01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:47,439
Speaker 5: of people that they do have adverse side effects to

2178
01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:50,920
Speaker 5: the flu shot, and I think they have like maybe

2179
01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 5: a different version of it that you might cant know.

2180
01:46:53,439 --> 01:46:56,679
Speaker 2: Please don't spread no misinformation on the show, and lets

2181
01:46:56,680 --> 01:46:57,519
Speaker 2: you know that for sure.

2182
01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:04,840
Speaker 3: No, yes, let's you know, talk to your doctor. Your

2183
01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:06,960
Speaker 3: doctor will know more than us for sure.

2184
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:11,120
Speaker 2: So like you know, consultual physician, they're the person that

2185
01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:14,040
Speaker 2: is responsible for giving to you. I'm sure there's gonna

2186
01:47:14,040 --> 01:47:15,840
Speaker 2: be a lot of questions and stuff before they that

2187
01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:17,439
Speaker 2: they give this out because a lot of people are

2188
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:20,519
Speaker 2: asking questions, and I'm sure if they take that into account,

2189
01:47:20,520 --> 01:47:22,080
Speaker 2: they'll let you know how safe it is for you.

2190
01:47:22,120 --> 01:47:24,760
Speaker 5: But and you know, I'm pretty sure you know they've

2191
01:47:24,760 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 5: done all these studies, so oz are they'll be able

2192
01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:30,040
Speaker 5: to tell you up front? Oh okay, well if you

2193
01:47:30,200 --> 01:47:33,920
Speaker 5: have this dismis you know you might, they'll discuss what

2194
01:47:33,960 --> 01:47:35,120
Speaker 5: are the other options?

2195
01:47:35,479 --> 01:47:35,679
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2196
01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:37,720
Speaker 3: Just yeah, your doctor will know more than us, is

2197
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:38,040
Speaker 3: the point.

2198
01:47:38,400 --> 01:47:41,280
Speaker 2: I think that's important, But I just don't want people

2199
01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:43,880
Speaker 2: saying it for stupid ass reasons like the Tuskegee experiment,

2200
01:47:43,960 --> 01:47:48,000
Speaker 2: which is not a good reason. Let's see, this is

2201
01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:51,800
Speaker 2: from slicking slatiists who says, hey, Rod and Karen and

2202
01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:55,439
Speaker 2: the black outips community, I've seen this tweet about HIV

2203
01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:58,320
Speaker 2: stigma and rob breathers and I just had to share.

2204
01:48:02,160 --> 01:48:04,160
Speaker 3: And I can't see it because whoever tweeted.

2205
01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:06,840
Speaker 2: Just got me blocked. So this will not be covering

2206
01:48:06,880 --> 01:48:09,360
Speaker 2: on our show. Okay, you tell them niggas unblock me.

2207
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:12,479
Speaker 2: If someone as someone that's a loner but a bit

2208
01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:14,439
Speaker 2: of a free spirit, I can relate a little.

2209
01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:17,200
Speaker 3: People want to talk down on me, I could.

2210
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:19,680
Speaker 2: I don't hang out with, I don't hang out with

2211
01:48:19,880 --> 01:48:23,160
Speaker 2: and be friends with any and everybody swapping energy I did,

2212
01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:25,680
Speaker 2: or et cetera. But then hate because some of my

2213
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:28,360
Speaker 2: sexual partners were not my boyfriend, husband, a close friend

2214
01:48:28,439 --> 01:48:30,920
Speaker 2: boy bye, And yes, I get tested regularly. It took

2215
01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:33,040
Speaker 2: sex ad multiple times, so I have a whole strategy

2216
01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:38,519
Speaker 2: for sexual health. AnyWho to leave off on a cooler one.

2217
01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:41,160
Speaker 2: And though I agree with the grit supremacy because I

2218
01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:43,320
Speaker 2: really only like blond grits, Yes what she.

2219
01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:46,120
Speaker 3: Is, but I had to become a double agent when Karen.

2220
01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:49,160
Speaker 2: Said cream a week not welcome, shaking my head, Thanks

2221
01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:50,559
Speaker 2: for the great what did ye?

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01:48:50,640 --> 01:48:54,400
Speaker 3: I don't think Karen would say Karen eats creamer week. Yeah,

2223
01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:55,400
Speaker 3: I don't think.

2224
01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:57,000
Speaker 2: I think she was. I think she was asking me,

2225
01:48:57,080 --> 01:49:01,320
Speaker 2: is cream and wheat not welcome? And yeah, kreamoriethom is

2226
01:49:01,320 --> 01:49:04,960
Speaker 2: different than grits. Thanks for the great shows and congrats

2227
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:07,360
Speaker 2: on that Spotify bag. Don't start eating the grits with

2228
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:10,599
Speaker 2: the pinkies extended. Yes we will. I'm gonna do all

2229
01:49:10,600 --> 01:49:12,360
Speaker 2: that shit, and I'm gonna ask y'all should I buy

2230
01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:14,920
Speaker 2: eighty eight thousand dollars bag and then stunt on y'all

2231
01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:17,400
Speaker 2: when I do it, quote sweet everybody and be like, yeah,

2232
01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:18,360
Speaker 2: attack them.

2233
01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:22,920
Speaker 5: And also I can confirm they do have oftenates to

2234
01:49:23,120 --> 01:49:24,360
Speaker 5: just the standard flu shot.

2235
01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:26,320
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so I don't know if they'll have that

2236
01:49:26,320 --> 01:49:27,400
Speaker 2: for coronavirus or not.

2237
01:49:27,800 --> 01:49:29,400
Speaker 3: Like I said, tosult your position.

2238
01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:31,160
Speaker 4: Yes, please please do, please do.

2239
01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:33,720
Speaker 5: And if they don't trust they are working on all

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Speaker 5: types of versions of this shot.

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01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:38,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see. Just you know, your doctor know better

2242
01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:39,160
Speaker 3: than us.

2243
01:49:39,160 --> 01:49:41,880
Speaker 4: Two niggas come on because they know your medical history.

2244
01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:45,200
Speaker 2: Cause that's the thing. Man, I'm not arrogant about this shit,

2245
01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:49,200
Speaker 2: Like I'm like, logically, this is what's up. But I'm

2246
01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:49,800
Speaker 2: not on some.

2247
01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:52,800
Speaker 3: Like and I told you niggas, you better go get it.

2248
01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:56,160
Speaker 2: Like look, if you like I took the flu vaccine

2249
01:49:56,200 --> 01:49:59,519
Speaker 2: and died, then okay, I don't know enough about that shit,

2250
01:50:00,160 --> 01:50:01,840
Speaker 2: you know, But if you just out here like I

2251
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:07,160
Speaker 2: don't get it because uh, you know, because George Washington's

2252
01:50:07,240 --> 01:50:07,639
Speaker 2: own slave.

2253
01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:12,519
Speaker 5: It's like Okay, Differentlio didn't go away on his own, y'all.

2254
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:16,320
Speaker 2: It didn't anyway. Tristan Wright saying, Hey, Rod and Karen,

2255
01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:18,400
Speaker 2: Hope y'all are doing well. I know it's not required

2256
01:50:18,439 --> 01:50:19,760
Speaker 2: to be caught up the right end, but my mom

2257
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:22,320
Speaker 2: wouldn't allow it. Lol. I've been behind by at least

2258
01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:24,360
Speaker 2: a week for over a year and now caught up

2259
01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:27,920
Speaker 2: so I could speak. First off, congrassimate Spotify deal. I

2260
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:30,360
Speaker 2: was super happy for y'all and moved over immediately. I

2261
01:50:30,880 --> 01:50:33,120
Speaker 2: want to shout out the music Saving producers again because

2262
01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:35,400
Speaker 2: they really improved on something that was already great. They

2263
01:50:35,439 --> 01:50:38,120
Speaker 2: are all great, but my favorites our guests, the race

2264
01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:40,040
Speaker 2: fucking with Black People in coronavirus segments.

2265
01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:41,679
Speaker 3: One of the fucking What Black People.

2266
01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:43,400
Speaker 2: Saw still manages to sound like it's right out of

2267
01:50:43,400 --> 01:50:47,800
Speaker 2: a Louisiana Bayou, just like the original. I'm expecting the

2268
01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:52,040
Speaker 2: Popeye's Lady to show up at the end. A while back,

2269
01:50:52,040 --> 01:50:53,880
Speaker 2: when Game of Thrones are still on, I wrote about

2270
01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:57,559
Speaker 2: a white politician accidentally calling one Obama the Obama's a monkey.

2271
01:50:57,880 --> 01:51:00,960
Speaker 2: I remember saying one hundred better yet your cards, and

2272
01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:03,479
Speaker 2: then it became part of the show. Now someone's added

2273
01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:05,840
Speaker 2: it to the song. It's really cool to see it

2274
01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:08,559
Speaker 2: become part of the show in the song. You don't

2275
01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:11,240
Speaker 2: get that kind of interaction with other shows. The Coronavirus

2276
01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:14,840
Speaker 2: rap mix remix, Steve Harvey on Guests, the Race intro,

2277
01:51:15,400 --> 01:51:19,360
Speaker 2: that gemmin Ass LGBT song Chef's Kiss Lol. I've been

2278
01:51:19,400 --> 01:51:21,760
Speaker 2: listening to y'all for seven years now and the show

2279
01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:25,320
Speaker 2: has only gotten better. Moving on the topics, I wanted

2280
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:27,479
Speaker 2: to bring up the defund the police convo. When I

2281
01:51:27,479 --> 01:51:29,439
Speaker 2: first heard the phrase, I honestly thought it meant what

2282
01:51:29,479 --> 01:51:31,799
Speaker 2: it does. I never went all the way to abolish

2283
01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:34,479
Speaker 2: because I don't think it's possible in this country with

2284
01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:37,920
Speaker 2: these people. The same way I can't see Americans without guns,

2285
01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:40,360
Speaker 2: I can't see it without a police presence. I didn't

2286
01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:42,360
Speaker 2: see a problem with the slogan until you started talking

2287
01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:44,800
Speaker 2: about the attack ass. The fear of the manipulation found

2288
01:51:44,840 --> 01:51:48,400
Speaker 2: in those does prevent politicians from being on that side publicly,

2289
01:51:48,439 --> 01:51:51,280
Speaker 2: because they really will show a white woman running down

2290
01:51:51,280 --> 01:51:53,479
Speaker 2: the street with her. Do you really want less police

2291
01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:56,360
Speaker 2: around flashing across the screen as a mass black man

2292
01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:59,400
Speaker 2: follows her. Fear tactics work well and That's why every

2293
01:51:59,400 --> 01:52:01,920
Speaker 2: time a deal wins is by your guns, horde, your

2294
01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:05,120
Speaker 2: bullet's time. I don't think it's hard to understand the slogan,

2295
01:52:05,160 --> 01:52:07,240
Speaker 2: but I do think enough people are willfully taking it

2296
01:52:07,240 --> 01:52:10,000
Speaker 2: to the extreme. I find myself battling between let's tell

2297
01:52:10,040 --> 01:52:11,960
Speaker 2: the whole truth and nothing but the truth, regardless of

2298
01:52:11,960 --> 01:52:14,040
Speaker 2: how people feel, and let's do what we can to

2299
01:52:14,080 --> 01:52:16,360
Speaker 2: make progress, even if we have to side step our

2300
01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:17,080
Speaker 2: real feelings.

2301
01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:18,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2302
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:21,000
Speaker 6: The thing I would throw up on that too is.

2303
01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:24,479
Speaker 2: You don't even have to run on it because it

2304
01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:28,679
Speaker 2: is a scary sounding slogan. So like Jamie Harrison doesn't

2305
01:52:28,720 --> 01:52:31,400
Speaker 2: run on defund the police, but now he's on a

2306
01:52:31,479 --> 01:52:36,960
Speaker 2: defensive because he has to either defend defund the police

2307
01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:40,639
Speaker 2: or act like it doesn't exist, because if he embraces

2308
01:52:40,640 --> 01:52:44,040
Speaker 2: it on any level, he becomes a guy who's always

2309
01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:46,759
Speaker 2: on the defensive explaining the scary thing to these people,

2310
01:52:47,640 --> 01:52:50,200
Speaker 2: you know, And I think people just refuse to admit that.

2311
01:52:50,280 --> 01:52:52,479
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. And it would be okay

2312
01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:54,840
Speaker 2: if you just said, I know he has to do that,

2313
01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:58,559
Speaker 2: but I think it's worth it. Okay, Well, then if

2314
01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:01,360
Speaker 2: it's worth it and we lose the seat, fine, you

2315
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:03,280
Speaker 2: know what I mean, which is I think the ultimate

2316
01:53:03,320 --> 01:53:05,320
Speaker 2: extension of what these people want to say, but they

2317
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:10,480
Speaker 2: scared to say that because because they want no responsibility.

2318
01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:12,800
Speaker 2: And that's that's the thing I had to I really

2319
01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:15,520
Speaker 2: discovered over the last couple of years. It's like, oh,

2320
01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:17,479
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, there's a lot of

2321
01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:21,240
Speaker 2: people who want all the criticism and none of the responsibility.

2322
01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:23,679
Speaker 3: They want all the credit and none of the blame.

2323
01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:27,519
Speaker 2: And so you know, that's why you got people being like, well,

2324
01:53:27,600 --> 01:53:30,960
Speaker 2: let's only talk about this politician who won saying defund

2325
01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:33,760
Speaker 2: the police, or let's only talk about you know, you

2326
01:53:33,800 --> 01:53:35,720
Speaker 2: know the people that ran on medicare for all they

2327
01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:36,400
Speaker 2: were able to win.

2328
01:53:36,439 --> 01:53:39,000
Speaker 3: And then you go, well, that's what about this situation?

2329
01:53:39,040 --> 01:53:41,720
Speaker 3: What about that one? We're not talking about that that.

2330
01:53:43,640 --> 01:53:45,280
Speaker 2: Like to get down or lay down on this shit

2331
01:53:45,400 --> 01:53:48,000
Speaker 2: is real strong with people, And I'm like, I don't

2332
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:50,880
Speaker 2: know how that makes anyone a stronger party or better

2333
01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:54,680
Speaker 2: or more honest to any of that shit. But that

2334
01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:58,000
Speaker 2: being said, I don't want candidates to run scared. I

2335
01:53:58,040 --> 01:54:02,519
Speaker 2: think this language is here, it's probably here to stay,

2336
01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:06,559
Speaker 2: so they're gonna have to flip up and be very

2337
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:12,559
Speaker 2: aggressive about explaining it and hope they don't lose. You know,

2338
01:54:12,760 --> 01:54:15,240
Speaker 2: the problem with twenty twenty is it was the wrong

2339
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:18,040
Speaker 2: time to lose, to be like, we're not sure this

2340
01:54:18,120 --> 01:54:20,920
Speaker 2: new strategy will work, but why not give it a shot? Well,

2341
01:54:20,920 --> 01:54:23,639
Speaker 2: why not? As if we lose? And I think Joe

2342
01:54:23,720 --> 01:54:27,360
Speaker 2: Biden has proven that it is a mandate on a

2343
01:54:27,400 --> 01:54:32,120
Speaker 2: return to quote unquote normalcy, not a wild swing to

2344
01:54:31,880 --> 01:54:35,280
Speaker 2: the to the progressive left, which is what everyone predicted

2345
01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:37,040
Speaker 2: what happened, But we didn't get that.

2346
01:54:37,440 --> 01:54:39,080
Speaker 4: No, we would have had it if we would have

2347
01:54:39,080 --> 01:54:40,000
Speaker 4: had Clinton.

2348
01:54:40,280 --> 01:54:42,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, but we didn't get that. So this

2349
01:54:42,880 --> 01:54:45,720
Speaker 2: is let's deal with reality, not what we want reality

2350
01:54:45,760 --> 01:54:49,240
Speaker 2: to be. Agreed, the world where everybody hates Obama, everybody

2351
01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:53,080
Speaker 2: loves Bernie and alc and every single state is super

2352
01:54:53,120 --> 01:54:56,560
Speaker 2: blue and we're all gonna you know, the reality we

2353
01:54:56,600 --> 01:55:00,560
Speaker 2: live in is one hundred and three House of Representative

2354
01:55:00,600 --> 01:55:04,839
Speaker 2: Republicans just tried to overturn the election with a stupid

2355
01:55:04,880 --> 01:55:08,240
Speaker 2: ass lawsuit. You know, that's where we really live. We

2356
01:55:08,320 --> 01:55:12,120
Speaker 2: don't live in twitter Land yet. If ever, for the

2357
01:55:12,160 --> 01:55:14,600
Speaker 2: dirty braid doll on Amazon, I think they meant dookie

2358
01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:17,480
Speaker 2: braid since it comes from China. It's probably a bad translation.

2359
01:55:17,640 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 2: Still trash though, I don't know care. Did that braid

2360
01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:23,200
Speaker 2: look like a dookie braid on that doll? Yeah, I

2361
01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:26,560
Speaker 2: don't think they meant that. Please take a snip from

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01:55:26,600 --> 01:55:28,800
Speaker 2: that Texas chasaw black woman shoot her interview. I do

2363
01:55:28,840 --> 01:55:31,920
Speaker 2: think it's fake, but that shit was. God, it needs

2364
01:55:31,920 --> 01:55:34,000
Speaker 2: to stop it right now, this ridiculous treatment. Yeah, I'm

2365
01:55:34,040 --> 01:55:35,640
Speaker 2: gonna have to definitely go in that clip. Some of

2366
01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:39,520
Speaker 2: those sound bites she was giving up. She was giving

2367
01:55:39,600 --> 01:55:42,880
Speaker 2: us so many sound bites, Yes, she was. Black people

2368
01:55:42,880 --> 01:55:46,520
Speaker 2: are so fucking funny. Slave Trader Jones has great snacks.

2369
01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:49,200
Speaker 2: If you like Danish, look out for the one in

2370
01:55:49,240 --> 01:55:51,600
Speaker 2: the white bag about the size of a pizza. It's good,

2371
01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:55,000
Speaker 2: and the strawberry lemonade. Rod not sure if you want

2372
01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:56,440
Speaker 2: to answer this on the air, so you can skip

2373
01:55:56,440 --> 01:55:59,440
Speaker 2: to the end if you want. I ain't scared your

2374
01:55:59,560 --> 01:56:03,320
Speaker 2: one line question if you're comfortable saying it on air.

2375
01:56:03,440 --> 01:56:05,360
Speaker 2: You've been making great moves in the pandemic before you

2376
01:56:05,440 --> 01:56:07,200
Speaker 2: were laid off. What did you do for work? What

2377
01:56:07,240 --> 01:56:09,320
Speaker 2: type of industry did you work in? Did any of

2378
01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:13,120
Speaker 2: those skills transfer to the podcast? Not not asking characters

2379
01:56:13,760 --> 01:56:15,880
Speaker 2: because I don't want anybody figuring out where she works,

2380
01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:21,839
Speaker 2: and then the Hive has a post up around North Carolina. Yeah, anyway,

2381
01:56:21,920 --> 01:56:26,560
Speaker 2: for me, I worked in the shipping industry, like logistics,

2382
01:56:26,600 --> 01:56:29,560
Speaker 2: which is like basically how to get containers from one

2383
01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:35,560
Speaker 2: place to another a free flate freight like a Humby

2384
01:56:35,920 --> 01:56:39,760
Speaker 2: or tractors called out of gauge trade. I specialized in

2385
01:56:39,800 --> 01:56:43,800
Speaker 2: working with that and so and I did it for

2386
01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:47,680
Speaker 2: a couple of companies that I won't name the companies, don't.

2387
01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:49,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I think I mentioned the companies before, but

2388
01:56:50,360 --> 01:56:53,959
Speaker 2: one of them was MERSK, and I started actually three companies,

2389
01:56:54,160 --> 01:56:56,280
Speaker 2: started with Seeland. They got bought. Then I worked for

2390
01:56:56,400 --> 01:56:59,000
Speaker 2: Mark and then I worked for Odyssey Logistics for a while.

2391
01:56:59,080 --> 01:57:00,600
Speaker 3: So those that's.

2392
01:57:00,440 --> 01:57:03,720
Speaker 2: Where I worked. And yeah, man, it was I mean,

2393
01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:08,040
Speaker 2: those skills were not they have nothing to do with podcasting.

2394
01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:11,440
Speaker 2: What I did learn from working in corporate office though,

2395
01:57:11,640 --> 01:57:15,960
Speaker 2: was a lot of stuff about being professional and showing

2396
01:57:16,040 --> 01:57:17,960
Speaker 2: up on time and shit and all that stuff. So

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01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:20,000
Speaker 2: I think that translates over to what we do, the

2398
01:57:20,040 --> 01:57:23,240
Speaker 2: prolificness of what we do, how organized it is, how

2399
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Speaker 2: often we're doing it.

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01:57:24,640 --> 01:57:26,680
Speaker 3: That translates over from those jobs.

2401
01:57:26,760 --> 01:57:30,200
Speaker 2: But you know how I email and interact with our

2402
01:57:30,320 --> 01:57:33,360
Speaker 2: with our clients and customers. When they email me and

2403
01:57:33,360 --> 01:57:35,960
Speaker 2: they have an issue, that stuff comes over from there.

2404
01:57:35,960 --> 01:57:39,520
Speaker 2: But I know I didn't even really talk at work

2405
01:57:39,600 --> 01:57:41,840
Speaker 2: to people for the most part. I was like, I

2406
01:57:41,840 --> 01:57:43,240
Speaker 2: don't want to know you, you don't want to know me,

2407
01:57:43,760 --> 01:57:45,360
Speaker 2: and you definitely don't want to know the real me,

2408
01:57:45,960 --> 01:57:46,200
Speaker 2: you know.

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01:57:46,520 --> 01:57:48,800
Speaker 5: So yeah, I've always been like that. You definitely don't

2410
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:50,760
Speaker 5: want to You don't talk now, But it's not to

2411
01:57:50,760 --> 01:57:53,520
Speaker 5: protect me, it's to protect you. Listen, we got to

2412
01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:54,040
Speaker 5: work together.

2413
01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:54,600
Speaker 4: Baby.

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01:57:55,080 --> 01:57:57,440
Speaker 2: Karen mentioned it having an evil aside her too this

2415
01:57:57,520 --> 01:58:00,440
Speaker 2: past week. I remember over a year ago, y'all were

2416
01:58:00,440 --> 01:58:03,720
Speaker 2: talking about snapping cartage and how women kill putting peanuts

2417
01:58:03,760 --> 01:58:07,160
Speaker 2: in the corn meal for fried fish for someone that's allergic.

2418
01:58:07,600 --> 01:58:09,600
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, Karen would have got my ass

2419
01:58:09,680 --> 01:58:12,360
Speaker 2: lapped my ass. I see why y'all together, both of

2420
01:58:12,400 --> 01:58:14,520
Speaker 2: y'all got the evil. Apparently that's the key.

2421
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:15,840
Speaker 3: It is the key, y'all.

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01:58:17,640 --> 01:58:19,560
Speaker 2: I love you guys. Keep up the great work. Sorry

2423
01:58:19,600 --> 01:58:21,200
Speaker 2: for the long read. I had to get that out

2424
01:58:21,240 --> 01:58:24,000
Speaker 2: before I fall behind again. Now I can get into

2425
01:58:24,240 --> 01:58:26,440
Speaker 2: my backlog of premium stuff. Good luck.

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01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:29,120
Speaker 6: Thank you June right saying hi, Rod and Karen.

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01:58:29,160 --> 01:58:31,400
Speaker 2: First of all, I love y'all's podcast and started off

2428
01:58:31,400 --> 01:58:33,720
Speaker 2: listening to recasts of Lovecraft Country and became a fan.

2429
01:58:34,120 --> 01:58:35,800
Speaker 3: I would love to hear your opinions on something.

2430
01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:38,280
Speaker 2: I was listening to Savage Love podcast and Dan Savage

2431
01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:40,240
Speaker 2: talked about a photo that's been going around the webs.

2432
01:58:40,440 --> 01:58:42,280
Speaker 2: The photo is one of a man dressing a puppy

2433
01:58:42,280 --> 01:58:45,000
Speaker 2: costume being led around on the leash by Dominatrix in

2434
01:58:45,040 --> 01:58:48,560
Speaker 2: a public supermarket. I know, I know, what the hell?

2435
01:58:48,640 --> 01:58:50,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and he was calling around on the floor.

2436
01:58:51,400 --> 01:58:53,880
Speaker 2: It was pretty easy to find a pick. I want

2437
01:58:53,880 --> 01:58:56,000
Speaker 2: to attach it here. I would love to hear you

2438
01:58:56,040 --> 01:58:58,280
Speaker 2: to discuss people doing weird shitting public places on the

2439
01:58:58,280 --> 01:59:04,800
Speaker 2: episode Happy Holidays, Man, I feel like I don't really

2440
01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:06,200
Speaker 2: have much of a take on that.

2441
01:59:08,120 --> 01:59:10,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't either, you know.

2442
01:59:11,120 --> 01:59:15,520
Speaker 5: And the thing is because, like I said, it's because

2443
01:59:15,520 --> 01:59:18,640
Speaker 5: we live in a society that goes, well, this is

2444
01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:22,400
Speaker 5: and I understand this is not the normal thing.

2445
01:59:22,840 --> 01:59:26,160
Speaker 4: So what is wrong with you or you people or y'all?

2446
01:59:26,240 --> 01:59:28,440
Speaker 5: And you know, I think because a lot of people

2447
01:59:28,480 --> 01:59:30,440
Speaker 5: get caught up in kinks and all that stuff.

2448
01:59:30,520 --> 01:59:33,240
Speaker 4: I don't I don't have a problem with it.

2449
01:59:33,240 --> 01:59:34,920
Speaker 5: It'd be like, oh, I didn't expect to see that,

2450
01:59:35,000 --> 01:59:37,240
Speaker 5: Like that would be the response. But it wouldn't be

2451
01:59:37,320 --> 01:59:40,520
Speaker 5: anything like that because it rolls into that kink shaming,

2452
01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:42,800
Speaker 5: and most people do kink shaming.

2453
01:59:43,320 --> 01:59:44,760
Speaker 4: Which is sad, but most people do.

2454
01:59:45,520 --> 01:59:47,680
Speaker 5: And my thing is as long as it's consensual and

2455
01:59:47,720 --> 01:59:52,920
Speaker 5: nobody's doing anything against their will, I don't have a

2456
01:59:52,960 --> 01:59:53,560
Speaker 5: problem with it.

2457
01:59:54,200 --> 01:59:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, see for me, I mean, it's a Facebook

2458
01:59:56,640 --> 02:00:02,360
Speaker 2: meme obviously, because everyone in that restaurant or publics or

2459
02:00:02,360 --> 02:00:06,800
Speaker 2: whatever didn't didn't consent to watching y'all's kink. You know.

2460
02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:10,280
Speaker 2: It's like people that get off on humiliation. Sometimes it's

2461
02:00:10,320 --> 02:00:13,800
Speaker 2: like public humiliation is my kink. But that might mean

2462
02:00:13,960 --> 02:00:17,720
Speaker 2: that you're walking around on a leash in a fucking

2463
02:00:17,800 --> 02:00:22,200
Speaker 2: lows and is everybody else's kink in there humiliating you

2464
02:00:22,560 --> 02:00:24,800
Speaker 2: or feeling uncomfortable or whatever.

2465
02:00:24,960 --> 02:00:26,720
Speaker 3: So I do.

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02:00:26,640 --> 02:00:30,200
Speaker 5: Understand the like cause people around may not have consented

2467
02:00:30,240 --> 02:00:33,680
Speaker 5: to seeing it. So from that perspective, I understand people

2468
02:00:33,680 --> 02:00:37,280
Speaker 5: being like, Okay, I came in here to go grocery shoping,

2469
02:00:37,320 --> 02:00:38,560
Speaker 5: I didn't come in here for this.

2470
02:00:38,960 --> 02:00:41,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, my thing is just like it's a Facebook mean

2471
02:00:41,520 --> 02:00:45,280
Speaker 2: because to me it's something that in real life is

2472
02:00:45,320 --> 02:00:49,520
Speaker 2: pretty obvious that hey, that is fucking weird and you

2473
02:00:49,560 --> 02:00:52,640
Speaker 2: shouldn't be able to just do that anywhere. And of

2474
02:00:52,720 --> 02:00:55,720
Speaker 2: course people are gonna judge you for doing that, and

2475
02:00:55,760 --> 02:00:58,080
Speaker 2: they shouldn't be like, as long as they don't physically

2476
02:00:58,160 --> 02:00:59,080
Speaker 2: harm you or anything, they.

2477
02:00:58,960 --> 02:01:01,640
Speaker 3: Shouldn't be likes to be positive about it.

2478
02:01:02,240 --> 02:01:05,960
Speaker 2: But at the same time, like like you said, on

2479
02:01:05,960 --> 02:01:08,440
Speaker 2: the individual level, between two consent and adults, of course,

2480
02:01:08,480 --> 02:01:11,400
Speaker 2: I don't care if you're you know, if this motherfucker

2481
02:01:11,440 --> 02:01:14,320
Speaker 2: is playing with a frisbee in your backyard as a dog, Okay,

2482
02:01:14,600 --> 02:01:16,520
Speaker 2: that's the fuck y'all want to do. Like, I don't

2483
02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:19,920
Speaker 2: care about that. But but this is that Facebook mean

2484
02:01:19,960 --> 02:01:23,400
Speaker 2: because you took the situation that you know, even if

2485
02:01:23,440 --> 02:01:25,120
Speaker 2: there would have been some people that would have judged

2486
02:01:25,160 --> 02:01:27,160
Speaker 2: you for that, just like oh, you like to be

2487
02:01:27,200 --> 02:01:29,200
Speaker 2: a dog, there would have been some people that judged

2488
02:01:29,200 --> 02:01:31,440
Speaker 2: you for that. But now you're throwing it into one

2489
02:01:31,480 --> 02:01:34,440
Speaker 2: more step, which is, Okay, I like to be a

2490
02:01:34,520 --> 02:01:36,920
Speaker 2: dog and you're comfortable with it. Okay, are you comfortable

2491
02:01:36,960 --> 02:01:38,520
Speaker 2: with me coming in your house and doing this like,

2492
02:01:38,520 --> 02:01:41,960
Speaker 2: well no, I mean, come on, man, like that's different.

2493
02:01:43,760 --> 02:01:45,400
Speaker 4: So agreed it.

2494
02:01:45,680 --> 02:01:48,280
Speaker 5: And for a lot of people, they go with, I

2495
02:01:48,440 --> 02:01:51,000
Speaker 5: do these things in my home? Why do these things

2496
02:01:51,040 --> 02:01:53,520
Speaker 5: in environments that I welcome me? I don't know why

2497
02:01:53,600 --> 02:01:56,680
Speaker 5: people think that people do these things. Just do these things.

2498
02:01:56,960 --> 02:01:59,320
Speaker 5: Most people did participate in these things. They don't do

2499
02:01:59,360 --> 02:02:00,680
Speaker 5: them ount of opening. They you know a lot of

2500
02:02:00,720 --> 02:02:02,360
Speaker 5: them want to be like they want to be safe.

2501
02:02:02,360 --> 02:02:04,480
Speaker 5: A lot of them don't want to be in environments

2502
02:02:04,480 --> 02:02:06,320
Speaker 5: that they're going to be judged like this anyway.

2503
02:02:06,840 --> 02:02:10,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, so all right, let's see.

2504
02:02:10,240 --> 02:02:15,080
Speaker 2: Oh this is uh, you know, black Beer Travelers, Brandon.

2505
02:02:15,680 --> 02:02:17,680
Speaker 2: He's sending us some beer. He just said, I want

2506
02:02:17,680 --> 02:02:19,000
Speaker 2: to thank you for having me on the show. The

2507
02:02:19,000 --> 02:02:21,360
Speaker 2: experience is a lot of fun. Never respected this happened

2508
02:02:21,400 --> 02:02:23,440
Speaker 2: since I'm also a fan. To show my gratitude, a

2509
02:02:23,480 --> 02:02:25,800
Speaker 2: package up some beers for you from a few black

2510
02:02:25,840 --> 02:02:28,080
Speaker 2: owned breweries out my way. The tracking number is below

2511
02:02:28,400 --> 02:02:31,680
Speaker 2: Mary Christmas, Happy New Year. Side note, congratulations on Spotify,

2512
02:02:31,800 --> 02:02:34,200
Speaker 2: take care, Thank you, Brandon, thank you baby. And I'm

2513
02:02:34,240 --> 02:02:36,360
Speaker 2: gonna save this one in the workfolder because I'm gonna

2514
02:02:36,360 --> 02:02:38,240
Speaker 2: be checking to make sure that beer rides.

2515
02:02:39,600 --> 02:02:39,720
Speaker 5: Uh.

2516
02:02:39,920 --> 02:02:44,520
Speaker 2: And then lastly, this one is from It looks like Seaversfield,

2517
02:02:44,600 --> 02:02:48,520
Speaker 2: who says, reading Rainbow Greetings, I'm enjoying the podcast and

2518
02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:49,240
Speaker 2: all that it offers.

2519
02:02:49,240 --> 02:02:50,400
Speaker 3: Do you have a current book list?

2520
02:02:50,840 --> 02:02:51,040
Speaker 4: Yo?

2521
02:02:51,440 --> 02:02:54,720
Speaker 2: Easiest way to keep up with what I'm reading is

2522
02:02:54,800 --> 02:02:58,040
Speaker 2: become my friend or follower on Goodreads.

2523
02:02:58,360 --> 02:02:59,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, good read.

2524
02:03:00,240 --> 02:03:03,040
Speaker 2: What I'll do is in the show notes of this episode,

2525
02:03:03,440 --> 02:03:07,360
Speaker 2: I will share my profile the link to my profile,

2526
02:03:07,400 --> 02:03:09,560
Speaker 2: so y'all can see it, and if you want to

2527
02:03:09,680 --> 02:03:12,720
Speaker 2: see what I'm up to, you can check it out there.

2528
02:03:14,240 --> 02:03:16,000
Speaker 3: And I think.

2529
02:03:15,960 --> 02:03:18,520
Speaker 2: If you follow me a friend me, I'll add you back.

2530
02:03:18,520 --> 02:03:19,800
Speaker 2: It's no big deal to me.

2531
02:03:19,880 --> 02:03:21,640
Speaker 3: I'm not on there all the time. He's in the

2532
02:03:21,680 --> 02:03:22,440
Speaker 3: social part of it.

2533
02:03:22,480 --> 02:03:24,800
Speaker 2: But you know, it's just easier than me trying to

2534
02:03:24,840 --> 02:03:27,120
Speaker 2: tell y'all every last book I got on my candle

2535
02:03:27,200 --> 02:03:27,600
Speaker 2: or whatever.

2536
02:03:27,840 --> 02:03:29,640
Speaker 3: So all right, y'all, that's.

2537
02:03:29,440 --> 02:03:32,560
Speaker 2: It for today. I hope hopefully people enjoyed this episode

2538
02:03:34,080 --> 02:03:38,280
Speaker 2: and we'll be back tomorrow at noon. Oh wait, shit, yes,

2539
02:03:38,400 --> 02:03:41,560
Speaker 2: thank you, Caaring. I forgot we got stuff in the mail.

2540
02:03:43,400 --> 02:03:46,360
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, how did I fuck that up? We

2541
02:03:46,480 --> 02:03:51,040
Speaker 2: got some cards already. People are sending cards. This was

2542
02:03:51,080 --> 02:03:57,840
Speaker 2: from the Smiths. It says happy everything. The Smith's are

2543
02:03:57,920 --> 02:04:01,880
Speaker 2: cool and Shane and Tink wishing you a happy holiday season,

2544
02:04:01,920 --> 02:04:04,720
Speaker 2: fantastic new year. Let's hope we can go outside in

2545
02:04:04,760 --> 02:04:07,200
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. Ain't that the truth?

2546
02:04:08,040 --> 02:04:09,360
Speaker 3: And look at Tink backhit chilling.

2547
02:04:09,360 --> 02:04:13,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if y'all can see this little cat.

2548
02:04:11,160 --> 02:04:18,040
Speaker 2: Oh and then we got this one. Like I said,

2549
02:04:18,040 --> 02:04:19,920
Speaker 2: our holiday cards will be coming soon. I'll let y'all

2550
02:04:19,920 --> 02:04:22,040
Speaker 2: know where to send the addresses in because it might

2551
02:04:22,080 --> 02:04:26,040
Speaker 2: be after, it might be a little after the Christmas,

2552
02:04:26,080 --> 02:04:30,840
Speaker 2: but we celebrate all of it. So and this one

2553
02:04:31,480 --> 02:04:37,000
Speaker 2: is a card that looks like the sleigh with the

2554
02:04:37,040 --> 02:04:39,600
Speaker 2: Grinch on it, and it says, and what happened then?

2555
02:04:40,160 --> 02:04:43,120
Speaker 2: Well in whovill they say, but the Grinch is small,

2556
02:04:43,120 --> 02:04:47,520
Speaker 2: heart grew three sizes that day. Happy spirit of Christmas.

2557
02:04:47,840 --> 02:04:49,879
Speaker 2: Hope the Spirit of Christmas fills your heart with happiness

2558
02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:53,280
Speaker 2: all year long. And this one says to Rod and

2559
02:04:53,360 --> 02:04:56,800
Speaker 2: Karen May twenty twenty one, bless you with good, healthy

2560
02:04:57,080 --> 02:05:00,960
Speaker 2: joy and success from your Tipper fan in New York.

2561
02:05:01,560 --> 02:05:03,440
Speaker 2: Mike and Debbie, thank you for this.

2562
02:05:03,640 --> 02:05:05,680
Speaker 3: Thank you, Dad asks.

2563
02:05:05,520 --> 02:05:08,520
Speaker 2: Son, you know what I mean? You know the branded

2564
02:05:08,640 --> 02:05:12,480
Speaker 2: strong girl and everything else they say in New York.

2565
02:05:12,480 --> 02:05:13,960
Speaker 2: I get all my New York from Deez a Maryland

2566
02:05:14,000 --> 02:05:20,320
Speaker 2: Quinn Jay. All right, get for your happy Holidays is

2567
02:05:20,320 --> 02:05:24,840
Speaker 2: from Rochelle, and she sent me some k cups.

2568
02:05:24,120 --> 02:05:28,400
Speaker 3: Of all my favorite assorted decaf coffie is when she

2569
02:05:28,480 --> 02:05:31,000
Speaker 3: got off of my list. Of our Amazon wish.

2570
02:05:30,800 --> 02:05:33,200
Speaker 5: List, we got an Amazon wish list for those of

2571
02:05:33,240 --> 02:05:34,560
Speaker 5: you go I want to stand a rod and car

2572
02:05:34,800 --> 02:05:36,720
Speaker 5: something you know, you know what you're not obligated to

2573
02:05:36,760 --> 02:05:37,440
Speaker 5: if you choose to.

2574
02:05:37,760 --> 02:05:39,120
Speaker 4: We do have an Amazon.

2575
02:05:38,760 --> 02:05:40,920
Speaker 2: Wisht yep, so you don't never have to ask what

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02:05:41,080 --> 02:05:43,800
Speaker 2: we want. It's right there in the list. Okay. And

2577
02:05:44,160 --> 02:05:47,040
Speaker 2: speaking of which, more stuff from the Amazon wish list.

2578
02:05:48,520 --> 02:05:49,360
Speaker 2: Why is the note?

2579
02:05:49,360 --> 02:05:51,120
Speaker 3: Oh here, this is sorry.

2580
02:05:52,200 --> 02:05:56,080
Speaker 2: The note is from Terry, who says happy holidays, thanks

2581
02:05:56,280 --> 02:05:59,720
Speaker 2: for helping me get through twenty twenty. And Terry sent

2582
02:05:59,840 --> 02:06:03,000
Speaker 2: us Bevel shaving cream.

2583
02:06:03,680 --> 02:06:05,560
Speaker 3: You always you can't ever have too.

2584
02:06:05,480 --> 02:06:08,160
Speaker 2: Much bebl shaving cream. She sent me some of.

2585
02:06:08,120 --> 02:06:11,120
Speaker 3: My favorite African soap. Okay.

2586
02:06:11,240 --> 02:06:14,080
Speaker 2: I love this African soap. It's liquid soap, which is

2587
02:06:15,000 --> 02:06:21,720
Speaker 2: unlike the other African soap okay, and it's authentic African

2588
02:06:21,760 --> 02:06:22,360
Speaker 2: black soap.

2589
02:06:22,440 --> 02:06:25,920
Speaker 6: I don't know, y'all can see that authentic because he's black, y'all.

2590
02:06:26,640 --> 02:06:29,880
Speaker 2: Yep, we big in Africa. Int the blackout tips and

2591
02:06:29,920 --> 02:06:33,720
Speaker 2: then this last one. You try to open this up.

2592
02:06:34,120 --> 02:06:38,600
Speaker 3: Just some scissors real quick. Not sure what's in this?

2593
02:06:42,760 --> 02:06:44,920
Speaker 2: Well, they wrapped. They wrap this thing tight. They want

2594
02:06:44,920 --> 02:06:51,080
Speaker 2: to make sure you, Donna, you're gonna break this several

2595
02:06:51,160 --> 02:06:54,640
Speaker 2: ladys is harder to get on than a condiment insecure.

2596
02:06:55,240 --> 02:07:03,440
Speaker 2: Oh no, damn, there's another layer of plastic.

2597
02:07:04,360 --> 02:07:10,960
Speaker 3: Hold on, and that's more. I think the gift is plastic.

2598
02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:13,400
Speaker 2: They like just in case you really like car did

2599
02:07:13,440 --> 02:07:14,520
Speaker 2: you put plastic on the list?

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02:07:15,120 --> 02:07:18,080
Speaker 4: I didn't know. I did not this right here?

2601
02:07:18,120 --> 02:07:23,760
Speaker 2: This was mean classic bubbles from Carns. Okay, that's kind

2602
02:07:23,800 --> 02:07:27,480
Speaker 2: of opening. Ooh oh, I think I like know what

2603
02:07:27,520 --> 02:07:28,640
Speaker 2: this is? Hold on.

2604
02:07:31,720 --> 02:07:33,640
Speaker 3: All my damn.

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02:07:35,000 --> 02:07:35,720
Speaker 2: It is.

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02:07:37,920 --> 02:07:39,800
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm picking. I'm picking too, going.

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02:07:39,840 --> 02:07:43,520
Speaker 3: What is that something that I use all the time.

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02:07:44,800 --> 02:07:49,280
Speaker 2: It's a little bit of spicy garlic. Okay, for those

2609
02:07:49,320 --> 02:07:52,440
Speaker 2: that are fans of when I cook on Facebook sometimes

2610
02:07:52,480 --> 02:07:53,240
Speaker 2: been a while.

2611
02:07:53,040 --> 02:07:54,960
Speaker 3: But when I was cooking on it all the time,

2612
02:07:55,040 --> 02:07:57,680
Speaker 3: y'all know, I like me some spicy garlic.

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02:07:57,760 --> 02:08:02,240
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, St Joe, the St Joe your daddy's garlic

2614
02:08:03,240 --> 02:08:08,240
Speaker 2: didn't break. Spicy garlic. What's crazy is today I literally

2615
02:08:08,320 --> 02:08:12,800
Speaker 2: just ordered some and it was delivered today right before

2616
02:08:12,880 --> 02:08:14,640
Speaker 2: I opened it, so I didn't know you got this.

2617
02:08:15,040 --> 02:08:15,480
Speaker 4: Thank you.

2618
02:08:15,720 --> 02:08:17,520
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have I wouldn't have ordered it.

2619
02:08:17,560 --> 02:08:19,440
Speaker 3: But hey, you know what, you can never have too

2620
02:08:19,480 --> 02:08:20,400
Speaker 3: much spicy garlic.

2621
02:08:20,440 --> 02:08:22,720
Speaker 4: Okay, we'll find something to sprinkle it on.

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02:08:23,080 --> 02:08:26,480
Speaker 2: You know, it's the only way to make it happen

2623
02:08:26,560 --> 02:08:30,120
Speaker 2: up in here. So listen, that's everything. Tomorrow noon, what

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02:08:30,280 --> 02:08:31,600
Speaker 2: can I.

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02:08:31,480 --> 02:08:33,440
Speaker 5: Guess I about to say, protect the spicy garlic at

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02:08:33,440 --> 02:08:33,960
Speaker 5: all costs.

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02:08:33,960 --> 02:08:36,200
Speaker 2: At all costs, do.

2628
02:08:36,160 --> 02:08:37,560
Speaker 3: Y'all know about the spicy garlic?

2629
02:08:37,840 --> 02:08:41,240
Speaker 2: Is everybody fucking with this from Spice Hunter Global Fusion

2630
02:08:41,320 --> 02:08:45,920
Speaker 2: Rube spicy Garlic. No, it's better than regular garlic in

2631
02:08:45,960 --> 02:08:50,680
Speaker 2: my opinion. But yeah, tomorrow at noon, I guess will

2632
02:08:50,760 --> 02:08:54,760
Speaker 2: be DJ Ben I mean from the for Our Nerds podcast,

2633
02:08:56,840 --> 02:08:59,720
Speaker 2: so hopefully y'all will show up for that. Can't wait

2634
02:08:59,760 --> 02:09:03,320
Speaker 2: to to chop it up with him and talk about

2635
02:09:03,400 --> 02:09:05,480
Speaker 2: nerds stuff and all that good stuff.

2636
02:09:05,840 --> 02:09:06,800
Speaker 3: Genuinely good dude.

2637
02:09:06,840 --> 02:09:10,560
Speaker 2: So all right, y'all until and if you haven't listened

2638
02:09:10,600 --> 02:09:14,080
Speaker 2: for all nerds, go check it out until tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: I love you,