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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Football Live, eleven

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Speaker 2: pm Eastern. It is the college football postgame rap show.

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Speaker 2: But as the saga just told you, we got you know, listen,

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Speaker 2: we got a lot to recap from today, preview for tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: But we got a Marquey game going on right now,

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Speaker 2: and Jason Martin, I never would have thought I would

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Speaker 2: call Colorado Colorado State a marquee game. But in a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a shocker, we have Colorado State up

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Speaker 2: fourteen to seven. A fumble by Travis Hunter return for

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Speaker 2: a touchdown puts Colorado State ahead. We are still only

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Speaker 2: midway through the first quarter, so plenty of time should mention.

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin, what we gotta get to Bam, We gotta

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Speaker 2: get to Georgia. But how about those Colorado rams? Jay Norvelle,

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Speaker 2: you didn't know his name before Wednesday, Well you're gonna

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Speaker 2: know you knew his name now, and you might know

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Speaker 2: his name after tonight. Colorado State up fourteen to seven

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Speaker 2: on the Colorado Buffaloes.

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Speaker 1: So, Aaron, this is exactly what you want if you

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Speaker 1: love entertainment. Colorado big time favorite in the game, but

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Speaker 1: you get kind of the bulletin board material, you get

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Speaker 1: kind of the tabloid. But I think it was all

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Speaker 1: kind of I felt like it was all in kind

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Speaker 1: of positive spirits to create more of a rivalry because

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Speaker 1: Colorado State doesn't matter, and they kind of made themselves,

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Speaker 1: if nothing else, they made themselves a pro wrestler here

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Speaker 1: stepping up because there's all of this attention paid to

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Speaker 1: dion into what Colorado was doing. So now Colorado State,

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Speaker 1: the end of what Jay Norvell said I thought was

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Speaker 1: kind of the most important thing in the quote that

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Speaker 1: everybody's been taking the end of it. He's just like,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what we say, they're not gonna like

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Speaker 1: us either way. Let's just go play. I think that's

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Speaker 1: the point. I think the point is what he said,

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Speaker 1: All that is designed to just create more and that's

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Speaker 1: what you've got. And now the perfect result is for

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Speaker 1: Colorado State to come out after everybody's waiting for Colorado

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Speaker 1: to put up one hundred and Colorado State just shows

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Speaker 1: up forces the issue. They're aggressive, they you know, a

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Speaker 1: little chippy, and right there you just see a personal

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Speaker 1: foul called on them and Hunter got leveled on the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: But this is what you want, Like I think you

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Speaker 1: want Colorado to win this game. I'm not suggesting that,

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Speaker 1: but you want drama here because you can create a

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Speaker 1: rivalry in one week if Colorado State shows up and

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Speaker 1: there is something newsworthy at the end of this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I didn't love the comments, only because I know it's

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Speaker 2: in good spirit, and I know it's a rivalry, and

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Speaker 2: I know it's this and I know with that, but

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Speaker 2: it did feel a little bit like a shot at

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Speaker 2: Dion's parents, how he was raised, et cetera. But what

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Speaker 2: I will say, I was telling Martin and VJ as

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Speaker 2: is very much getting chippy on the field out there

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Speaker 2: and Boulder, you know, I did tell them the one

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Speaker 2: thing I did respect about Jane Norvel is obviously the

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Speaker 2: Colorado State coach. He was at Nevada. He's not he

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Speaker 2: wasn't prior to this week, a super high profile guy,

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Speaker 2: and I really thought I saw the quotes pretty early

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Speaker 2: on the first one I saw it was was Adam

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Speaker 2: Schefter tweeted out a graphic basically with with the quote

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Speaker 2: my goodness, is this even real? This this seems made up?

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Speaker 2: And it was real, and within an hour it was

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Speaker 2: the biggest story in sports, and it didn't really stop

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Speaker 2: being the biggest story in sports for two days. And

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Speaker 2: so I didn't love the actual comment, but I also

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Speaker 2: respect that Jane Norvel didn't back down from it, didn't

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Speaker 2: do the immediate, you know, hour later apology. And I

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Speaker 2: love that Colorado played into it almost like you said,

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Speaker 2: professional wrestling, you know, coach Prime Dion. They had all

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Speaker 2: the TV shows out there, they were giving everybody sunglasses.

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Speaker 2: I think I read a report where the sunglass company

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Speaker 2: you know, they made it into a thing. But I

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Speaker 2: do give Colorado State credit because what did the quotes

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Speaker 2: start with? Jane Norvel said, We're tired of hearing all

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's be let's be frank about it. As

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Speaker 1: for Colorado State, this is kind of the biggest game

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Speaker 1: they're going to play all year. For sure, they're not

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Speaker 1: playing for a championship. We're not looking at a New

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Speaker 1: Year's six team here. This is an in state rivalry.

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Speaker 1: But there's a lot more here. I mean, look at

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Speaker 1: It's been kind of the center of attention this week.

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Speaker 1: And so Colorado State, if you can't get up for

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Speaker 1: Colorado State is keeping this thing interesting. And we kind

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Speaker 1: of have seen this all day as we go through everything.

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Speaker 1: There have been some teams that have just kind of

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Speaker 1: just they're showing up like they know how important this

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Speaker 1: This is an opportunity to make yourself known. And again,

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Speaker 1: because it's an in state rivalry, and Aaron, because we

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Speaker 1: to get into, especially a border rivalry like this, if

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Speaker 1: there's any reason to it all, and Dion gives you

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Speaker 1: all the reason in the world. I will say one

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Speaker 1: coming across maybe to how Dion was raised. I don't

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Speaker 1: that's not what that was supposed to sound like. I

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Speaker 1: being raised in a certain way, but the way he

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And yeah, and I like I said, and I

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Speaker 2: do suspect that Colorado State fans probably were tired of

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Speaker 2: their crosstown rivals being the biggest store across state, rivals,

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Speaker 2: excuse me, being the biggest story in sports. And so

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Speaker 2: it wonn't surprise. You know, I don't think he did

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Speaker 2: it maliciously. It didn't come out great, but again his

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Speaker 2: this is garmish. Yeah, this is getting very, very very

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Speaker 2: chippy out there in Boulder. As Jason mentioned a minute ago,

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Speaker 2: there was a very physical penalty on Travis Hunter a

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Speaker 2: in that one, Jason, and we'll be monitoring that one

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Speaker 2: until two am Eastern. As long as we're on air,

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Speaker 2: let's get to outside of this Colorado stuff. Let's just

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Speaker 2: get to the biggest story in sports or in college

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Speaker 2: football today, I should say, and that is what happened

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Speaker 2: in Tampa, Florida. So this was probably from a college

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Speaker 2: football perspective today, the single biggest result it was Alabama winning.

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Speaker 2: But Alabama, they were a twenty nine point favorite in

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Speaker 2: this game against South Florida. It was an interesting week

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Speaker 2: because when we last saw Alabama and I were coming

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Speaker 2: were questioning, as Jalen Milroe the guide, do you have

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame transfer Tyler Buckner is going to start. He

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Speaker 2: proceeds to go five for fourteen, gets benched in favor

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Speaker 2: of ty Simpson, a form of five star that for

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Speaker 2: whatever reason, it hasn't clicked. Ty Simpson looked a little

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Speaker 2: bit better, but overall, Alabama just a completely forgettable offensive performance.

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Speaker 2: They end up winning seventeen to three. In terms of

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Speaker 2: seventeen to three, but they did not pull away until late.

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Speaker 2: There was an offside that basically, you know, there was

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Speaker 2: an offside situation that would have given potentially South Florida

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Speaker 2: of the field and tie. I'll just bring it up,

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Speaker 2: say Jason, it was not pretty for Alabama. Lots of

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Speaker 1: Jason, Yeah, there is, and it is just watching that today.

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Speaker 1: Buckner was just I don't know what that was. That

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Speaker 1: find it staggering that Alabama doesn't have a quarterback on

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Speaker 1: their roster. We said last week Milroe didn't play well

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Speaker 1: what he is as an athlete, but we kind of

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Speaker 1: if they're running mill Roe out there against Texas, how

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Speaker 1: bad are the other guys? Alabama should not be in

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Speaker 1: a position at this age in their program where not

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Speaker 1: only do they not have a definitive QB one, but

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Speaker 1: none of the guys that they have really should be

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Speaker 1: a starter for an Alabama level football team. Like that

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Speaker 1: that is stunning. I mean, just look at the quarterback

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Speaker 1: is just a complete disaster. Like don't I don't understand

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Speaker 1: how you put yourself in this spot, Like you go

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Speaker 1: from Bryce Young to to nothing. It's amazing to me.

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Speaker 1: Texas is a different animal. But South Florida. You can't

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Speaker 1: fourteen against South Florida. That's a massive problem for Alabama.

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Speaker 1: And I just don't know how that falls through the

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Speaker 1: play quarterback for you at that university.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting, Jason, you know you and just because

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Speaker 2: of the nature of what we do. We love college football,

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Speaker 2: but obviously on a national stage like this, you don't

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Speaker 2: a ton of offseason stuff. But this was a big

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Speaker 2: Ryan Ryan Fowler what's up, man? How you doing well?

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Speaker 1: Back there you go.

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Speaker 4: you know that part, but he wasn't. This was just

430
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Speaker 4: Nick Satan saying, let me look at another guy, and

431
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Speaker 4: he looked at Tyler Buckner and there's no answer there.

432
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Speaker 4: Ty Stinston. You know, he could be on the Matt

433
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Speaker 4: Jones thing where he may be ready later in his

434
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Speaker 4: career that he is right now. And the quarterback is

435
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Speaker 4: a development position, but they don't have a lot of answers.

436
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 4: They don't have a lot of answers. And listen, when

437
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 4: you look. You can bring jay Len Milroe back, but

438
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 4: you're limited with your offensive play calling He's just not

439
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 4: very good with the short intermediate passes. His default his

440
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Speaker 4: best ball, which is so odd because that one seems

441
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Speaker 4: to be would be the harder one to hit. His

442
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Speaker 4: arm strength is fine. They're just going to have to

443
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Speaker 4: go back and you know, maybe go call Aane Kiffin

444
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Speaker 4: after he gets through beating him in Tuscal loose and say,

445
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Speaker 4: help us with that twenty fourteen game plan that they

446
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Speaker 4: did with Blake Simms. I mean, they took a scout

447
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 4: team running back, maybe him the quarterback, and he broke

448
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 4: a record in Tuscal with a Marii Cooper. Now this

449
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 4: team didn't have a Marik Cooper. You can start there

450
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 4: wide receivers, they're below average, secondary is young, they're growing, but.

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Speaker 2: The offensive jump in on that. I thought that, listen.

452
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Speaker 2: I know it's hard to say this, but I thought

453
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Speaker 2: the defense was asked time and time and I get it.

454
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Speaker 2: It's South Florida. They're not good. Their quarterbacks are runningquarterback.

455
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Speaker 2: But the defense was asked time and time and time

456
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Speaker 2: again today. You have to keep us in this game.

457
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Speaker 2: You have to make plays. And oh, by the way,

458
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 2: that defense held Texas to thirteen points through three quarters

459
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Speaker 2: last week and was just ran out of juice. I

460
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Speaker 2: actually think the defense is playing much better than people

461
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Speaker 2: are giving it credit for now. The old line I

462
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Speaker 2: was wrong on because I thought the old line maybe

463
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Speaker 2: it was mill Row, maybe they had to defend too much, whatever,

464
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Speaker 2: or hold their blocks for too long, whatever.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that.

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Speaker 2: I think the defense is playing really well right now.

467
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Speaker 1: Now.

468
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Speaker 2: Is it good enough to win, you know, ten more

469
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Speaker 2: games over the course of the season. That probably not.

470
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Speaker 2: But I don't know. I think the defense is playing

471
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Speaker 2: fine well.

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Speaker 4: I think they are based on the youth of the

473
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Speaker 4: team and the new players that are having to play

474
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Speaker 4: in and plus also Jaheem Motis was not able to

475
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Speaker 4: go today. That's a big, you know plug right there.

476
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Speaker 4: When you talk about that defensive front of him, he's

477
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Speaker 4: your best defensive lineman. So yeah, I mean, you give

478
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Speaker 4: them some room, but the offense like it's got to

479
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Speaker 4: be D minus. I mean, you don't even give them

480
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Speaker 4: a seed. It was just I cannot even wrap my

481
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Speaker 4: head around them. The words I'm gonna have to use

482
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Speaker 4: Monday to describe this. But hey, thankfully they've got a punter.

483
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Speaker 4: The punter may be able to punch the ball better

484
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Speaker 4: than these guys can throw it. Maybe they could try

485
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Speaker 4: him a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I will say this, you can tell me when I

487
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 1: watched mill Rod last week, I thought that when he

488
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 1: started throwing with heavy velocity, when he was throwing darts

489
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Speaker 1: and bullets in the fourth quarter, I actually liked the

490
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Speaker 1: way he was playing late in that game. I thought

491
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Speaker 1: that he got better as it went along, and he

492
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Speaker 1: was making higher difficulty throws and he felt like he

493
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Speaker 1: was much more in rhythm. That's why I was shocked

494
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Speaker 1: at heat heats. He became the fall guy for whatever

495
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Speaker 1: it was that we saw today. I was kind of

496
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Speaker 1: surprised because it seemed like he was trending in a

497
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Speaker 1: better direction by the end of the game than we

498
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Speaker 1: had seen in the first half of that game.

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Speaker 4: I agree. I agree, Jason. I think when you look

500
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Speaker 4: at that, but the offensive line last week was a disaster,

501
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Speaker 4: and you know, I don't know what Texas ended up doing,

502
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 4: but they were struggled with Wyoming. When you look at Texas,

503
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Speaker 4: and this is going to make Texas people so mad.

504
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Speaker 4: I think Texas is good, but I think what happened

505
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,719
Speaker 4: last week is Alabama. Alabama's just not there good, so

506
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 4: they're not very good. So I think they found fools

507
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Speaker 4: gold in Tuscaloos. I think they're coming back, getting down

508
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 4: the level earth. But when you look at this Halifama team,

509
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Speaker 4: going back to what you said about Jaylen Milroe, look

510
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 4: at the snaps, go back and look at the first

511
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Speaker 4: two games. You know that office is based on rhythm, right,

512
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 4: rhythm catching the ball, especially that RPO. They had to

513
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 4: go away from the RPO because they couldn't get the

514
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Speaker 4: stat back there. I mean, these are little simple things. So, Okay,

515
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Speaker 4: you got a guy that may be dealing with an injury.

516
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Speaker 4: Set McLoughlin your center. Okay, well who's the backup? Well,

517
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Speaker 4: I don't really know.

518
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Speaker 2: Let's see.

519
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Speaker 4: Uh uh well how about this guy. Well he goes

520
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 4: in and I mean it's just this is chaos. I'd

521
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Speaker 4: ask you know, is the dot if the overplay it

522
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 4: looks over from here? I mean, it just it guess

523
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Speaker 4: this point. How does it end? Does it end with

524
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 4: eight and four? I mean I text a guy that

525
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 4: made prediction on my show nine and three because everybody

526
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Speaker 4: told him he was crazy. I said, I'll be honest

527
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 4: with you, I'm not sure they can get to non

528
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Speaker 4: wins Ryan wins.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 4: It's embarrassing. It's it's it's not playing up to this.

531
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Speaker 4: Have we hurt. This team is good at one thing.

532
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,479
Speaker 4: You ready talking. They would do our job better than

533
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 4: we could do it. They love to talk.

534
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Speaker 2: I did see the uh the offensive linemen say that,

535
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Speaker 2: oh they they took Texas for granted. I was like,

536
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Speaker 2: it feels like a weird thing.

537
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Speaker 4: We got anxiety. According to coach, he said, they saw

538
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Speaker 4: that anxiety real quick.

539
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Speaker 2: Let me let me jump in. I gotta I got

540
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Speaker 2: a couple of things and we got to kind of

541
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Speaker 2: wrap up here. Ryan Fowler tied one hundred point nine.

542
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Speaker 4: Is okay?

543
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Speaker 2: Let me let me ask you what is up with

544
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Speaker 2: Saban and and our buddy. You know, Jason and I

545
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 2: are both close with Klay Travis and I saw him

546
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Speaker 2: tweet this today and Clay former Fox Sports radio host

547
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: now with with iHeart. But he tweeted something that I've

548
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 2: been thinking, Nick Saban, I mean two thousand and nine

549
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 2: Nick Saban watching twenty twenty three Nick Saban, I think

550
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Speaker 2: he would he would mock him. And is it because

551
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 2: he thinks the player like I just you know, it's

552
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 2: one thing if the players aren't good enough okay, but

553
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 2: the mistakes, the inability. As you said, where is Fiery Sabin?

554
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 2: I just don't see that guy. What is up with

555
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: that Ryan?

556
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Speaker 4: I think he's having to do so much that his

557
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 4: coaching staff is supposed to be doing. He's literally warm out. Honestly,

558
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 4: I think there is. It's because these assistant coaches, some

559
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 4: of these guys would be at a disadvantage if they

560
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 4: want on a pee wee football field. Okay, Holman, hustler,

561
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 4: outside linebackers coach. He couldn't coach at the local pee

562
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 4: wee football He's that bad. Okay, it's just not very

563
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 4: very good. Freddie Roach I covered Freddy is a player here.

564
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 4: It's hard that defensive line. They're not getting the production.

565
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 4: It's the assistant coaches, and this is the issue. Nick

566
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Speaker 4: Savid works those assistant coaches. He works them hard. He

567
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 4: works them a lot of long hours. I think they

568
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 4: said forty seven out of the fifty two weeks they

569
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Speaker 4: worked seven days a week last year, forty seven out

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Speaker 4: of the fifty two seven days a week. I think

571
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 4: that's your sign right there is he's not getting those

572
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 4: first options. Like Tommy Reach was not his first option.

573
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 4: Kevin Steel was not his first option. He's having to

574
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Speaker 4: go down to third and fourth, and then the assistant

575
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Speaker 4: coaches around. I don't have a problem with the coordinators,

576
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 4: but some of these assistant coaches are not like I

577
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 4: always try to play the process of game of going.

578
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Speaker 4: Who would coach on some of those national titles teams?

579
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Speaker 4: None of them. None of them. I'm not even sure

580
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 4: they would make analysts under those championship teams. But here

581
00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 4: they're on the position side of things, and they're Robin

582
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Speaker 4: the University of Alabama athletic departner.

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Speaker 1: So one more quick one, and I know what Nick

584
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: Saban said this week. He said it was laughable. I

585
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: said before last season, I thought he was done in

586
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: about three years because this was not going to be

587
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: fun with the new NIL rules and everything else. I

588
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: just felt like he was probably going to have enough

589
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Speaker 1: of this. Any thoughts right now from you that you

590
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Speaker 1: can see the end of the line for Saban just

591
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Speaker 1: kind of wanting to walk away, walk into retirement, walk

592
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Speaker 1: on to TV, walk to Terry, whatever it is that

593
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Speaker 1: he wants to do. Do you feel like there is

594
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Speaker 1: some there's some fire now, No, I don't.

595
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Speaker 4: I don't think Nick Saban's a quitter. I just don't.

596
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 4: I don't see that part in characteristic in him. He's

597
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 4: always said I love the challenge. He can get it fixed.

598
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 4: I mean, they've got a big, hot shot quarterback by

599
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Speaker 4: the name of Julian Saying from Carlsbad, California, coming in,

600
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Speaker 4: especially with a transfer portal. You know, if this was

601
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 4: that era may help him prolong his career. So when

602
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 4: you look at these options, and this is why I

603
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 4: go back. He said it two weeks ago that this

604
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 4: team was not a championship caliber team. Well, the thing

605
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 4: is you no longer had that excuse. You're Alabama. You

606
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 4: come out of spring practice. You go, man, we need

607
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 4: a left tackle. Put that shingle up, help hold it

608
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 4: left tackle? Alabama. How many applications you get? Thirty? Okay,

609
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 4: we'll take this guy. Say what, We'll take this guy

610
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Speaker 4: as a backup. Perfect, Thank you. We need this. We

611
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 4: need this now. Quarterback may be a little bit something different,

612
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 4: but you can clean up your roster. And they didn't

613
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Speaker 4: do that. We saw Tyler Steen a couple of years

614
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Speaker 4: ago from Vanderbilt coming in as a late in row

615
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 4: league coming out of spring. So no, I don't see

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Speaker 4: Nick Saban retiring, but I do see a big adjustments

617
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Speaker 4: that need it, and I do ask the question, does

618
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Speaker 4: he have enough energy to make these difficult decisions to

619
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Speaker 4: be able to get it head of the right direction

620
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Speaker 4: that is to be determined. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Fowler tied one hundred point nine. You can hear him

622
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Speaker 2: two to six Eastern Central time two to sixth Central time.

623
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Speaker 2: If you want to listen to a major statewide group

624
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Speaker 2: therapy session that will be going on on Monday at

625
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Speaker 2: two pm Eastern. Followhim on Twitter. By the way, Ryan C. Fowler, Ryan,

626
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Speaker 2: we do have to run though, Man, we could talk

627
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Speaker 2: to you all night.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate you guys, brother, Thank you man.

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Speaker 2: Ryan, have a great night. God As Mike gets cut

630
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Speaker 2: right with the roll time, we gotta go to this.

631
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what low. We'll come back. We'll talk

632
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Speaker 2: to about what Fowler said. Ryan Fowler from tiwe point nine.

633
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Speaker 2: But to Sega, please take the floor away. There was

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Speaker 2: a lot that just happened that twenty minutes there. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: By the way, Dion Sanders Old School Jackson State is

636
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Speaker 5: losing seventy to twenty seven at Texas State.

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Speaker 2: They just started the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 5: Meanwhile, updating at eighteenth rank Colorado. The Buffaloes are tied

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Speaker 5: with Colorado State fourteen all mid second quarter. Also in progress,

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Speaker 5: Fresno State winning again sixteen nothing at Arizona State early

641
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Speaker 5: in the second quarter, and Stanford was tied at home

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Speaker 5: against Sacramento State. Visitors had the ball twenty three all

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Speaker 5: last two minutes of the game. This is am eleven

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Speaker 5: forty Sacramento.

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Speaker 1: Then it outside, then it throws late.

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Speaker 2: It's caught five falzer first down and more.

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Speaker 1: Thirty twenty five, twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 4: Ten five touchdown, touchdown, hornets.

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Speaker 2: What just happened?

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Speaker 5: Sacramento State just won at Stanford. That's what just happened,

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Speaker 5: thirty to twenty three the final. And how about this.

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Speaker 5: Who's Stanford's coach? It's Troy Taylor, the former coach at

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Speaker 5: Sacramento State. A Number one Georgia trailed at the half

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Speaker 5: today at home against South Carolina fourteen three did beat

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Speaker 5: him twenty four to fourteen. Number three Florida State held

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Speaker 5: on to win at Boston College thirty one twenty nine.

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Speaker 5: You may have heard about the Alabama game. It was

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Speaker 5: three to three in the third quarter at South Florida.

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Speaker 5: Tenth ranked Bama won the game, seventeen to three. Florida

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Speaker 5: Tonight beat eleventh ranked Tennis twenty nine to sixteen. Missouri

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Speaker 5: won on a sixty one yard field goal on the

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Speaker 5: final play, thirty to twenty seven over fifteenth rank Kansas State.

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Speaker 2: South.

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Speaker 5: Alabama won at Oklahoma State tonight thirty three to seven.

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Speaker 5: BYU won at Arkansas thirty eight thirty one in a comeback.

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Speaker 5: UNLV with a late field goal beat Vanderbilt forty to

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Speaker 5: thirty seven. Miami, Ohio won in overtime at Cincinnati thirty

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Speaker 5: one to twenty four. To Major League Baseball, they're going

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Speaker 5: to the twelfth inning at Arizona. The Diamondbacks have retied

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Speaker 5: the game. It's five, five Cubs and d Backs in

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Speaker 5: the twelfth. Dodgers at Seattle, scoreless, bottom of the eighth

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Speaker 5: already wins today for Cleveland and Miami. Baltimore's alone and

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Speaker 5: first again in the Al East after beating Tampa Bay

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Speaker 5: eight to nothing. NASCAR win for Denny Hamlin at Bristol.

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Speaker 5: Chargers running back Austin Eckler is out tomorrow with a

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Speaker 5: sprained ankle. Joey Bosa is a game time decisions or hamstring.

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Speaker 5: Charger linebacker Eric Kendricks is out. See We'll be hosting

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Speaker 5: the Chargers. Titans wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins a game time decision.

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Speaker 5: He had missed practice all week with an ankle injury,

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Speaker 5: and Titan's first round guard Peter Scroonsky out due to illness.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Saga, Fox

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Speaker 2: Jason will come back. Ryan Follower said something very interesting

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Speaker 2: that I want to react to Alabama as the Saga

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Speaker 2: just said. It was three to three late in the

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Speaker 2: third quarter. They win seventeen to three. We'll talk about that.

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Speaker 2: Keep you updated on Colorado Colorado State. Couple other news

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Speaker 2: and notes from across college football. That's next. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: in Boulder, Colorado, the Colorado Colorado State Rams. Excuse me,

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Speaker 2: they did just make the extra point. They scored the

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Speaker 2: extra point. Look like it might go out, but it

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Speaker 2: did not. Colorado State under five minutes to go in

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Speaker 2: the second quarter in Boulder has taken a twenty one

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Speaker 2: to fourteen lead. We'll keep you updated on that, Jason

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Speaker 2: really quick. A couple things that Ryan Fowler said, and

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Speaker 2: I know there's other stuff to get to. We're definitely

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Speaker 2: gonna get to all of the Week two NFL stuff

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Speaker 2: in our two. But this Alabama thing is so interesting

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Speaker 2: because I think what stood out to me. I don't

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Speaker 2: think there's an easy answer. I don't think there's an

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Speaker 2: easy fix. And we talked about that a little bit

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Speaker 2: last week after the Texas came. The one thing that

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Speaker 2: I found very interesting about what Ryan Fowler said, and

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Speaker 2: if everybody missed it, tied one hundred point nine. He

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Speaker 2: hosts Monday through Friday, two to sixth Central time. What

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Speaker 2: he said was interesting to me was the assistant coaching thing.

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Speaker 2: And I think this is something that doesn't get enough

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Speaker 2: kind of conversation in situations like this, But for people

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Speaker 2: who miss what Ryan said, what he said was Nick

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Speaker 2: Saban runs his assistant coaches ragged and this staff just

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Speaker 2: isn't the caliber of the staffs that he's had in

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Speaker 2: the past, and we know the assistant coaches that he's had,

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Speaker 2: Steve Sarkisian as an offensive coordinator, Kirby Smart as a

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Speaker 2: defensive coordinator. How about this Mario christobal Is as a

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Speaker 2: as a position coach, Billy and Api or as a

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Speaker 2: position coach. And I thought the quality of assistant was

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Speaker 2: very interesting to me because maybe that is part of

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Speaker 2: it too. We even talked about it. I remember us

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Speaker 2: talking about it last year. Is it feels like there's

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Speaker 2: something in that building that is being lost in the

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Speaker 2: developmental process. I don't know if that's exactly it, but

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Speaker 2: it kind of makes sense. Is it just they're just

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Speaker 2: something isn't right with this team last two, three, four years,

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Speaker 2: And maybe it's the quality of people around Nick Saban.

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Speaker 2: Not excusing Nick Saban, by the way, It's not an

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Speaker 2: excuse for Nick Saban, but I thought that was a

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Speaker 2: really interesting point.

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Speaker 1: Well. I also think that it speaks to how difficult

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Speaker 1: it is to reload when you produce a football factory,

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Speaker 1: not just on the field but on the sidelines. Like

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Speaker 1: we know, you have to recruit year in and year

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Speaker 1: out when it comes to players, but Nick Saban has

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Speaker 1: had to replace Lane Kiffen, Steve Sarkisian. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: can talk about this forever. There are four or five

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Speaker 1: head coaches in college football right now that used to

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Speaker 1: be on Nick Saban's staff. That's difficult. You think about

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Speaker 1: the Patriots, for example, Belichick for a while he had

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Speaker 1: the same OC in the same DC. He had Josh

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Speaker 1: McDaniels forever. Josh McDaniels left last year. Finally he takes

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Speaker 1: the job with Vegas. That offense looked horrible last year.

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Speaker 1: It's not as easy as it sounds to replace coordinators,

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Speaker 1: when you're that successful and it's that demanding of an environment,

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Speaker 1: eventually the well runs dry a bit and you don't

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Speaker 1: have the same level. And right, I agree, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: absolve Nick Saban, but it is. I think it is

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Speaker 1: underappreciated how difficult it is to completely, like reproduce an

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Speaker 1: all star staff of coaches as often as a top

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Speaker 1: flight college program tends to have to do, especially Nick Saban.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and for people who and I think the other

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Speaker 2: thing too, Jason really quick, is that we got to

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Speaker 2: remember too, when a Kirby Smart leaves, when a Steve

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Speaker 2: Sarkisian leaves. They bring people with them, so you're not

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Speaker 2: just replacing Steve Sarkisian as an offensive coordinator. You're maybe

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Speaker 2: producing two three other position coaches, plus support staffers, plus

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Speaker 2: whatever whatever it is. Alabama sloppy again today, seventeen to three.

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Speaker 2: They win, but it was ugly. Keeping the updated on

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Speaker 2: the game out in Boulder, Colorado State up twenty one

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Speaker 2: to fourteen, about two minutes left in the second quarter,

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Speaker 2: right before halftime. I'll tell you about Jason. We'll come back.

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Speaker 2: We'll switch gears to the NFL Talk Aaron Rodgers Talk

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Speaker 2: Thursday Night Talk Week two, Fox Sports Radio. Welcome in everybody,

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Speaker 2: Seger just told you, But the big game out in Boulder,

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Speaker 2: the one that has been all the talk in college

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Speaker 2: football over the last couple of days, Colorado State actually

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Speaker 2: leading twenty one to fourteen, eighteen seconds left in the

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Speaker 2: first half. It is fourth and twenty eight. Can't see

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Speaker 2: where they are on the field, so I don't know

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Speaker 2: if they're in field goal ranger if they'll very likely punt.

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Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what, Jason, do you want to

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Speaker 2: switch gears? We obviously have talk NFL Week one is

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Speaker 2: in the books and will be previewing Week two throughout

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Speaker 2: the show, But I do think we'd be remiss if

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Speaker 2: we didn't start with the big story out of week one.

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Speaker 2: There really sad story, honestly, and I you know, it's

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Speaker 2: we're not the first people on this network to have

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Speaker 2: the take since Monday Night. But Jason, I mean, I

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Speaker 2: can't even think about how many segments that you, you

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Speaker 2: and I did on the Jets and Aaron Rodgers and

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Speaker 2: what was it gonna look like? And was it gonna work?

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Speaker 2: Was it not gonna work? Was he gonna turn on

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Speaker 2: the team? Was he gonna and you know, he said

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Speaker 2: all the right things in the preseason and so it

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Speaker 2: goes without saying, but let's just dive into it. That

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Speaker 2: was the big story Monday Night. Now he has spoken

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Speaker 2: since his surgery to Pat McAfee. We'll get to that momentarily,

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Speaker 2: but I don't think there's a new take to have

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Speaker 2: on this, But how bummed were you just Monday night

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Speaker 2: or so fired up about that game? The emotion of

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Speaker 2: nine to eleven in New York City and then just

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Speaker 2: a couple of plays in Aaron Rodgers season was done

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Speaker 2: and a conversation will have momentarily potentially his career is

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Speaker 2: done as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't really know what to say other than

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Speaker 1: it's just it was a tough day for sports. Certainly,

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Speaker 1: that's just from the selfish perspective. I felt terrible for

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers because it really did seem like he was

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Speaker 1: dialed in and cared and really wanted this to be special.

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Speaker 1: You've certainly had to tie in with September eleventh and

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Speaker 1: everything going on in New York. The hope for Jets fans,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure they I had in my lifetime seeing

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Speaker 1: that level of hope and that level of excitement and

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Speaker 1: the atmosphere was there, and then four plays in he's out.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I saw the clip of the Manning cast

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Speaker 1: and their reaction to it, and just the next day

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Speaker 1: everyone's commentary on it, and when you found out, you know,

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Speaker 1: when it happened, it didn't look like that's the season.

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Speaker 1: But as you watch the replay more and more, I

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Speaker 1: started to think this is not good. And then Salah

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Speaker 1: after the game to just come right out and say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's bad. We think it's an achilles. It's like, that's

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Speaker 1: just such a punch in the gut for Jets fans

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Speaker 1: who have just sat there and waited for this kind

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Speaker 1: of moment to happen, and it was just it was

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Speaker 1: rough for sports, it was rough for the NFL. This

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Speaker 1: was going to be a great storyline all year long

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Speaker 1: to see what that offense was going to look like

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Speaker 1: with a maybe just a real fire in the belly

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers that wanted to do something and he was

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Speaker 1: in the a SEE for the first time in his career,

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Speaker 1: and it's such a loaded conference and it was gonna

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Speaker 1: be great. It really was. And especially after watching Miami

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Speaker 1: you've got that, and then you have the Bills and

858
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: the Jets right there in front of your eyes and

859
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 1: to realize in that moment, that's it for Aaron Rodgers

860
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: for the season. I know what he said, and we

861
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: can talk about it, but it just it was so deflating.

862
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: And you know what was interesting. It was in a

863
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: different way, of course, because the DeMar Hamlin thing was

864
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: much more serious, but it was the same feeling I

865
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: had going into that game. We were super excited about

866
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: Bill's Bengals that night and we and you know, it

867
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: got taken away real fast, and you kind of had

868
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: the same thing. Now you got a great ending to

869
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: that game with the punt return and everything in overtime,

870
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: and there was drama, but it just it felt so

871
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,959
Speaker 1: deflating the entire time. It stunk. It really did, because

872
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: you just knew once he was out of the game,

873
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: is just like, man, everything that we were gonna sit

874
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: here and enjoy over the next two and a half

875
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: hours has been kind of taken away, and now we're

876
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 1: worried about what's gonna happen with the rest of the season.

877
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: And then we got the worst news as we could

878
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: the next day, which was indeed they were right and

879
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 1: his season is over, and that just sucks.

880
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 2: By the way, I don't know if I mentioned it,

881
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 2: but Colorado State Colorado is officially at halftime. Colorado State

882
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: up twenty one to fourteen there. Yeah, there's nothing else

883
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 2: really to add. We'll get to the Aaron Rodgers sound

884
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: momentarily Jason, but for the Jets emotional win, and we'll

885
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: talk maybe next segment a little bit about Josh Allen's performance.

886
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 2: But is there any hope with Zach Wilson? I mean,

887
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: is there a free agent out there? Where do they

888
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 2: go from here? Because you know, just I don't know,

889
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 2: it's just it's such a bump, Like, okay, it's such

890
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 2: a bummer for Aaron Rodgers, and you can like him,

891
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 2: you cannot like him. Whatever. Nobody wants to see his season.

892
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: And again we'll discuss momentarily potential his career and like that.

893
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: But even just for Jets fans, man, like you said,

894
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 2: most anticipated season in who knows how long hard knocks

895
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 2: the excitement. Aaron Rodgers again, as I just said, saying

896
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: all the right things all off season, being a great teammate,

897
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 2: going out with his going out with the guys to

898
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 2: Rangers games and Knicks games and stuff like that. I

899
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 2: just feel so so so bad for Jets fans. And

900
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 2: I'll be honest, it was a really fun ending to

901
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 2: the game, but I hate to be crass but.

902
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: Felt like a consolation prize.

903
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, And just like Zach Wilson, ain't it man Like

904
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 2: he just he just he isn't you know? And and

905
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 2: this is now year three, and you would think, and

906
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know the guys. I'm not trying

907
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 2: to disparage him, but you think being beat out by

908
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, you know, maybe it would refocus them or whatever.

909
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 2: And he just looked like the same dude, you know.

910
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: I mean, even though the play that garon Garrett Wilson

911
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 2: made late in the game to to whatever, like it

912
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: was a great catch by Garrett Wilson, it wasn't Zach

913
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 2: will Wilson driving the Jets the length of the field.

914
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 2: And then obviously you have the special teams playing overtime

915
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: to win the game. I don't know how this ends

916
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 2: well for the Jets. And you know, again, and I think,

917
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 2: and again something we'll talk about throughout the show, Like

918
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: you think about how you and I thought about this

919
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 2: division a week ago when we were on air, versus

920
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: how we feel now. Is there any hope, is there

921
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 2: any saving grace for the Jets? Because I just don't

922
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: see the path forward with Zach Wilson as your quarterback. Again,

923
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: maybe a Matt Ryan's out there somebody else and they

924
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 2: eventually go that route, but I don't see it with

925
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson.

926
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 7: No.

927
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: They can run the ball still, we know that, and

928
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: they have a great defense that's gonna give you some opportunity.

929
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: And they've still got great skill talent. I mean, you

930
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: talked about Garrett Wilson, but the quarterback is gonna limit them.

931
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: Here's what Here's kind of an here's an interesting way

932
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: to look at it, especially based on the theme of

933
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: a lot of the first hour of this show tonight.

934
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: You went from Bryce Young to whatever Alabama's got at quarterback. Now,

935
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: that's basically what happened. Went from Aaron Rodgers to whatever

936
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 1: is at quarterback for the Jets right now. Zach Wilson,

937
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: who look in the preseason you heard some positive things

938
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: said about him. I actually think this week at least

939
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: a few things I heard him say. He's saying the

940
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: right stuff, you know, he's saying, I want to be

941
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 1: as much like Aaron Rodgers as I can be, trying

942
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: to soak up all the information and all this, but unfortunately,

943
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: what we saw on the field on Monday nights still

944
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: look like the same guy that I've seen for the

945
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: last two years. He's just not it. He isn't that

946
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: you said it exactly right. And his first test is

947
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: to go to Dallas, who just beat Daniel Jones forty

948
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:43,439
Speaker 1: to nothing, and that defense that could be That could

949
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: be a real embarrassing night. That could be a really,

950
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: really difficult night. I do not envy Zach Wilson's position

951
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: at all there, but unfortunately, and I would love to

952
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: see him prove us wrong, but there is nothing, there's

953
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: no evidence out there would make me feel positive about

954
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: what he can do for your football team. Every once

955
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: in a while, he'll uncork a throw where you're like, wow,

956
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 1: that's that's pretty impressive, but that's you can't do that,

957
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 1: Like you've got to be able to uncork that throw

958
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: seventy percent of the time where you're throwing. And there's

959
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: just no consistency at all in what he does. And

960
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: I don't think his teammates believe in him. And I

961
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: think that might be the most important thing here is

962
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson. Those skill talent guys, they now know, Okay,

963
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: we really don't have. We don't have what we need

964
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 1: to get the job done, and I think every Jets

965
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: fan knows that they don't have the guy on the roster.

966
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: And again, I don't know where the fix is. I

967
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: heard the Brady stuff and I'm glad it died out

968
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 1: because we don't let that go. But I don't think

969
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,439
Speaker 1: there is somebody sitting out there that you can bring

970
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: in and make this work. I don't think Matt Ryan's

971
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: did either. I think that's over. I think there is.

972
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,959
Speaker 1: Unfortunately for the Jets, this is just one of those

973
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: that they're just gonna have to deal with and the

974
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: fans are just gonna have to understand and Okay, I

975
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 1: guess it's not going to be our year after all.

976
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: And now you have to look to the future and

977
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 1: hope that the things that Aaron Rodgers is saying and

978
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: how driven he sounds to come back is legit and

979
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: hope for the future, which unfortunately has been the Jets

980
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: fans mo for twenty years.

981
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what you just mentioned. Aaron Rodgers

982
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 2: talking about his potential future. Here's what he had to

983
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 2: say about it on the Pat McAfee show.

984
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 8: You know, we'll see you see what happens. It's there's

985
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 8: a process, there's certain markers.

986
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,439
Speaker 1: We got to hit you trying to say you're coming

987
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: back this season? Yeah, what's happening?

988
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 7: He?

989
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: Are you coming back for the playoffs this year?

990
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna make any of those statements.

991
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 8: I don't feel like that's that's fair to myself.

992
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 1: I'm just is it a possibility?

993
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 8: I think, as Kevin Garnett said, anything's probable.

994
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 2: That was again Aaron Rodgers on the Pat McAfee show. Listen,

995
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 2: let's put aside this season. There's no player I don't

996
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 2: know of in the history of sports that has come

997
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 2: back from an achilles in four or five months. Let's

998
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: have a realistic conversation about his future. Because my first thought,

999
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 2: you know, we like everybody else, I was in front

1000
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 2: of the TV for the post game when Robert Sawas

1001
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 2: said it, and my first thought was, I think this

1002
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 2: is his career, and I really hope I'm wrong. But

1003
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 2: the bottom line is, and I don't believe it's money

1004
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 2: related to people. So, oh, you know, how can you

1005
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 2: be as motivated with all the money he's got. I

1006
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 2: just know I'm not a doctor, but every doctor you've

1007
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 2: ever heard this is about the most debilitating injury that

1008
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 2: you can possibly get let alone as you're closing in

1009
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 2: on your fortieth birthday. You know, Kevin Durant tore his

1010
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 2: achilles in what was it, June of twenty nineteen, and

1011
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: it took him over a full calendar year. Yeah, he

1012
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 2: didn't come back until December of twenty twenty. Guess December

1013
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty into twenty twenty one, So we're talking

1014
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 2: about eighteen full months. And obviously in the NBA, which

1015
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 2: was a little bit of a topic this week, is

1016
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 2: you know, you can load manage And not to say

1017
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 2: that Vin Durant wasn't given a hundred percent, but he

1018
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 2: wasn't expected to go out every night, and he certainly

1019
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 2: didn't have three hundred pound people jumping at his ankles

1020
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 2: every time that something happens. So I guess what I'm

1021
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,439
Speaker 2: saying is, I'm not going to put it past Aaron

1022
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 2: Rodgers that maybe he comes back, but I do think

1023
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 2: that it is fairly realistic to assume that we may

1024
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: have seen Aaron Rodgers last play in the NFL, and

1025
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: even if we haven't, that he's going to be nothing

1026
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 2: like the guy that we saw when he does eventually

1027
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:29,240
Speaker 2: come back.

1028
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: I think the second point is very important to mention.

1029
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: Even if he does come back, this is one of

1030
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: those injuries where a lot of people are never the same.

1031
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: I mean JK. Dobbins is looking at the exact same thing. Now.

1032
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 1: He's much younger than Aaron Rodgers, but he plays a

1033
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: position where if he is not the same coming back

1034
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: in terms of what he can do from an athletic perspective,

1035
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: that's going to be a career changing scenario for him

1036
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: pretty much forever in terms of what he's going to

1037
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 1: be able to do in the National Football League. But

1038
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: to Rogers, what he's saying is the right thing because

1039
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,439
Speaker 1: no Jets fans, no NFL fans are going to hold

1040
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: him accountable if he can't come back. No one's going

1041
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: to be well, you said you were coming back, and

1042
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: now you're saying, well, look, this is a tough thing

1043
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: to come back from. He does sound optimistic, and maybe

1044
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: he is. And you know, he's in great shape, and

1045
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: he's probably buys into the New Age and the holistics

1046
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: and all of those kinds of things, and he's got

1047
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: a doctor that has a track record of bringing people

1048
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: back from injuries relatively quickly. That would scare me to death.

1049
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: First of all, if I'm a Jets fan like I

1050
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: certainly don't want him at forty coming back too soon

1051
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: from an achilles tear. But I think him saying never

1052
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: say never, anything is possible. I think that's what you

1053
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: say to your fan base. I don't. I don't. I

1054
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 1: don't think it was disingenuous. I think it was just, guys,

1055
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: if I can come back, I will. I think he

1056
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: knows in his heart of hearts that he's not going

1057
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: to be able to come back, but no one is

1058
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: going to fault him if he can't. So I actually

1059
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 1: think that his commentary there is very reasonable considering the situation.

1060
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: And maybe he does believe he's a superhuman and he

1061
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: can come back, But I think at worst he's just saying,

1062
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: this is a bummer, and I really want to play

1063
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: for you, guys, and I do not want my career

1064
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: to end this way, and watch me come back from this.

1065
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 1: And I like that. I like that. I think that,

1066
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: as political as it might sound, as fake as it

1067
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: might sound, if you want to be cynical about Aaron Rodgers,

1068
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: think that I think that he has handled this this

1069
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: week about as well as you could under the circumstances,

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Speaker 1: don't disagree at all, And I do think there's a

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Speaker 1: you know what's medically and physically realistic for.

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Speaker 2: A quarterback at forty years old. So we'll monitor it.

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Speaker 2: But as you said, Jets take the field tomorrow in Dallas,

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Speaker 2: you know, against that incredible front of the Dallas Cowboys,

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Speaker 2: for yourself at Discovered dot com. Slash match. Jason, we

1094
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Speaker 2: just talked a little bit about last Monday night's Jets

1095
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 2: Bills game, talking about it obviously from the Aaron Rodgers perspective,

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00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 2: what's the future for him for the Jets, etc. There

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00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 2: was another team on that field that night, and unlike

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Speaker 2: Zach Wilson who got thrown into the fire out of nowhere,

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00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 2: Josh Allen does not have an excuse for his four

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Speaker 2: turnover three which includes obviously three interception performance against the

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Speaker 2: New York Jets. So this is a topic that we

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00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: have talked about all off season. Is there something not

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00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 2: quite right with Buffalo? But it's interesting because I know

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00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 2: that you filled in for Bernie Fratto last night or

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00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 2: maybe early this morning, depending on where people are across

1106
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 2: the country, and I think you saw some parallels even

1107
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 2: in an Eagles win with Jalen hurts to the Bill's

1108
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 2: loss on Monday night. Am I correct.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. What's interesting about this whole topic now is we

1110
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: got finished talking about assistant coaches as it related to

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00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: Alabama earlier when we had Ryan Fowler on in the

1112
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: first hour of the show. And what I'm seeing, and

1113
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: again I'm not saying that this is a take you

1114
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: have right now, this is not my take. Right now.

1115
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: We can kind of look at this and say, put

1116
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: a pin in this. If we're in six weeks from

1117
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: right now and this thing still feels like it doesn't

1118
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: if it just doesn't feel right exactly with the Eagles,

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00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 1: then maybe we can kind of look at this again. Now,

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Speaker 1: their schedule is about to get pretty easy before it

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Speaker 1: gets hard, so they're probably going to have a really

1122
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: solid record. I mean, they're undefeated right now, but they

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00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: just haven't looked quite right. And the comparison that I

1124
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: made with the Bills was in brief Josh Allen has

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00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: not quite been the same since Brian Dable left, even

1126
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Speaker 1: though he had Ken Dorsey on that staff as well.

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Speaker 1: There's just something about Dable, who also, by the way,

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Speaker 1: was an Alabama assistant the same you know, the same deal.

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Speaker 1: He just there was a comfort level with those two.

1130
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Speaker 1: There was a synergy with those two, and the offense

1131
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: of the Bills two years ago is what led to

1132
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: how you felt about them going into last year. Them

1133
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: being a prohibitive favorite. They went and made some moves

1134
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: in the offseason to beef up the defense. They were

1135
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: gonna run the ball better, but Allen was everywhere and

1136
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Speaker 1: then I don't know if I call it a regression,

1137
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: but he just didn't seem They just didn't seem quite

1138
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: as formidable last year as was anticipated. So fast forward

1139
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: to this year. We can talk more about the Bills

1140
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: in a second, but just looking at the Eagles, they're

1141
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: two to zero, but Jalalen Hurts hasn't even thrown I think,

1142
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: for three hundred and seventy yards total so far. AJ

1143
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: Brown is on sidelines. He was upset about his usage

1144
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: rate on Thursday night because it was Devonte smith knight,

1145
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: but really it was DeAndre Swift's night. They were running

1146
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: the football effectively and AJ Brown really wasn't a focal

1147
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: point of the offense and he didn't care for that.

1148
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: What happened during the offseason for the Eagles, and we

1149
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Speaker 1: already looked at them being a prohibitive favorite along with

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Speaker 1: San Francisco. Really, those are only two teams you felt

1151
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: real good about going into the season in the NFC.

1152
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: But really a lot of people just had the Eagles

1153
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: kind of penciled in They're gonna be the one that

1154
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: breaks the hangover from Super Bowl and all this. But

1155
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: what happened. They lost their offensive coordinator. They lost Shane

1156
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: Steichen to the Indianapolis Colts because the Colts made a

1157
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: bet that what he did for Jalen Hurts he might

1158
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: be able to do for their guy, Anthony Richardson, and

1159
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: so they bring him in and we'll see what goes

1160
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Speaker 1: on there. But you saw what Brian Davile did last

1161
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: year for Daniel Jones and for the Giants offense. I

1162
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: think they played above their talent level in some respects

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00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: because Davie's just a really solid coach, especially from an

1164
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Speaker 1: offensive perspective. So now you've got new coordinators in Philadelphia

1165
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, and you have to

1166
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: wonder Hurtz's synergy so far, it just hasn't quite been

1167
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: the same. He just hasn't looked the same out there.

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00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: And maybe more credits should have gone to Shane Stikeen

1169
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: then to Nick Sirianni, and that's what the Colts saw,

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Speaker 1: and that's why the Colts made that move. So that's

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Speaker 1: why I'm saying, just kind of put a pin in

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01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:09,919
Speaker 1: this and think about it in a couple of months.

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01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: I think their record is still going to be really

1174
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: good and we've got to see what they do in

1175
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 1: the playoffs. But Hertz just doesn't look the same as

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01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,479
Speaker 1: he did last year. And I don't think it's because

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Speaker 1: he's forgotten how to play football. I think he's lost

1178
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Speaker 1: the security and the synergy that came with the relationship

1179
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Speaker 1: that he had and the growth that he experienced with

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Speaker 1: Shane Steichen, similar to what Josh Allen had when he

1181
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Speaker 1: took the big leap with Brian Dables as OC.

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Speaker 2: Now it's a very interesting, you know concept, and I

1183
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 2: think it speaks to, uh, you know, some some what

1184
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 2: we talked about with Alabama, and I just think, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's weird because I don't remember this being a thing

1186
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:52,919
Speaker 2: like ten years ago, Like what was this a thing

1187
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 2: like like when I don't know, I'm just trying to

1188
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 2: think who was good ten years ago. I guess when

1189
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Speaker 2: the Patris were winning, they were losing coordinators, but it

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01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 2: didn't matter. They kept winning, So we didn't talk about it.

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Speaker 2: But like, I don't know, I don't remember this being

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Speaker 2: as big of a deal, but you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: Is that.

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Speaker 2: I just think the way like sports works right now

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01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 2: is that it's like, you know, every fan base, college

1196
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Speaker 2: and pro is way more impatient than they've ever been,

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Speaker 2: and it is it does feel like a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a copycat thing where if the Rams have success,

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Speaker 2: you're plucking guys off their staff. Eagles have success much

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Speaker 2: the same. So, you know, I don't really know what

1201
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 2: it is, but I do think it's pretty indisputable. Yeah, again,

1202
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 2: we talked about it at the college level. The struggles

1203
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 2: that Alabama is having directly correlates to losing so many

1204
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 2: talented assistant coaches and with Josh Allen certainly over the

1205
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 2: last year and a half, and it appears as though

1206
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 2: with Jalen Hurts it's much the same from Josh Allen's perspective,

1207
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 2: and the Eagles at least are worth noting or two

1208
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 2: and zero. Like with Josh Allen. I don't know what

1209
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 2: to make It's interesting, right because I think sometimes you know,

1210
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 2: we have so much time to talk in the off

1211
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 2: season that we talk ourselves into narratives and then sometimes

1212
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 2: they just don't end up being true. But we talk

1213
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 2: ourselves into narratives because we have so much time to

1214
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 2: talk about nothing for sure. But I think we were

1215
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 2: all right on the Bills. And I think, like everyone,

1216
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 2: I didn't hear anybody this whole offseason, like, you know what,

1217
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Speaker 2: all that stuff that happened in the AFC playoffs last

1218
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 2: year against Cincinnati, all the weird stuff with Stefan Diggs

1219
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Speaker 2: in OTAs in the offseason, that's nothing. The Bills will

1220
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Speaker 2: be like. I think all of us had the same take,

1221
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 2: and now we're very much seeing that come to fruition

1222
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 2: plenty of time. It's only Week one. The Bills play

1223
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: the Raiders tomorrow. That should be a win. I just

1224
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 2: bring it up to say he doesn't look right, probably

1225
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 2: because of the Brian Able thing, but they don't look

1226
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 2: right as a team. And I think this was one

1227
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 2: everybody had questions on. I think everyone's gonna end up

1228
01:02:58,640 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 2: being right about it.

1229
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna throw one other quick thing out there.

1230
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Speaker 1: And I have increasingly come to believe this. It's not

1231
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 1: that you can't have success if you don't do this.

1232
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Speaker 1: But I would never again. I don't think hire a

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Speaker 1: defensive mind to be my coach.

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01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 2: Yes, go ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: And the reason why is because if you have a

1236
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Speaker 1: good offensive coordinator, you will lose him because someone else

1237
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 1: is going to hire him to be a head coach.

1238
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: If you just cut out the middleman and always hire

1239
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: an offensive minded guy, then any move he makes is

1240
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: likely to be lateral to take a coaching job somewhere else.

1241
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 1: Like if Lincoln Riley was your OC, good freaking luck,

1242
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: because somebody's going to hire him to be a head coach,

1243
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: So you make him the head coach, and then your

1244
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: offense is kind of set. Then underneath that you can

1245
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 1: put guys that fit your system, guys that you know,

1246
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 1: and then the guys that you probably can afford to

1247
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 1: lose and replace. But look at the success rate of

1248
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 1: Andy Reid, Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVeigh, Zach Taylor, like the

1249
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 1: list goes on and on. What is the one thing

1250
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: that the Bills have that has consistently been a problem.

1251
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: They have a relatively conservative minded, really really good former

1252
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator as their head coach. So what happened Brian

1253
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 1: Dable got hot, his name got hot. What happened? You

1254
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 1: lost him? Look at Mike Rabel in Tennessee. Mike Rabel,

1255
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: he didn't even have a great oc in my opinion

1256
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: of Matt Lafleur, what happened? Matt Lafleur got poached. Arthur

1257
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 1: Smith was an excellent offensive coordinator for the Titans. What happened?

1258
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 1: He's now the head coach of the Atlanta Falcons. Because

1259
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: the game has become so much more geared towards the

1260
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 1: offensive side of the football, it just makes no sense

1261
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:03,919
Speaker 1: to a defensive head coach there because you are constantly

1262
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 1: going to be looking over your shoulder if you have

1263
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 1: a decent offensive coordinator as to who is going to

1264
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 1: take them from you and how fast do you need

1265
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 1: to replace them.

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Speaker 2: We'll tell you what. There was a great example of

1267
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 2: an offensive coordinator working a defensive coordinator last Sunday. We're

1268
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Speaker 2: going to discuss that next. Before we do, though, News

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01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 2: desk de Seger, I think we got a developing story

1270
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Speaker 2: in Boulder right now, my friend.

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Speaker 5: Well, believe it or not, this Colorado team is still

1272
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 5: losing the Colorado State. If you saw Colorado State's opener,

1273
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 5: you realize, my goodness, this again.

1274
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 2: Washington State just the best team in the country. They

1275
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 2: destroy Wisconsin.

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Speaker 5: I think they're going to be Pack twelve champions next year.

1277
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 5: Of course it'll be Packed two, but maybe they'll adopt

1278
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 5: Sacramento State. By then, Colorado State is leading at eighteenth

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Speaker 5: right Colorado twenty one to fourteen early in the third quarter,

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Speaker 5: Shduor Sanders of the Buffalo's one touchdown pass, one interception

1281
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 5: and just sixty five yards through the air. Meanwhile, Dion's

1282
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 5: old school, Jackson State, did lose seventy seven to thirty

1283
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 5: four tonight's at Texas State. Halftime on FS one, Fresno

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Speaker 5: State's winning again sixteen to nothing at Arizona State. Fresno

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Speaker 5: with over two hundred yards passing in the first half.

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Speaker 5: At Arizona final seconds of the first half, Wildcats lead

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Speaker 5: u TAP fourteen to three. Kansas is tied at Nevada

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Speaker 5: ten ten in the third quarter. If you've seen Nevada

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Speaker 5: so far, that is just as much of a shock

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01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:33,479
Speaker 5: as this Colorado State result so far from the Mountain West.

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01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 5: In fact, there was a great item from a couple

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Speaker 5: of writers that the Big twelve today here, they've got

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01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 5: Kansas tied with Nevada. Oklahoma State lost at home to

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01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 5: South Alabama thirty three to seven. Iowa State lost ten

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Speaker 5: to seven at Ohio. U Cincinnati's in the Big twelve.

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Speaker 5: Now they lost in overtime to Miami Ohio thirty one

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Speaker 5: twenty four. AP says this is the first time in

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Speaker 5: two years that a Power five conference has lost three

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Speaker 5: games the same weekend to non Power five teams. And

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Speaker 5: it's not over yet, as I say. Kansas in the

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01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 5: third quarter tied at Nevada. Number one Georgia had to

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01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 5: come back to beat South Carolina. Number two. Michigan pulled

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01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 5: away to down Bowling Green Number three. Florida State led

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01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 5: thirty one ten and won thirty one twenty nine at

1305
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 5: Boston College. Fourth ranked Texas was tied with Wyoming ten

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01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 5: ten to start the fourth quarter Longhorns thirty one ten

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01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 5: the final. Number ten ranked Alabama was tied three to

1308
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 5: three at South Florida in the third seventeen to three Bama.

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01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 5: The final. Florida beat Tennessee twenty nine to sixteen, and

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Speaker 5: elsewhere BYU won at Arkansas thirty eight to thirty one.

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Speaker 2: In a comeback.

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Speaker 5: West Virginia beat Pitts seventeen to six. As for what's

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01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 5: going on right now in baseball, the Cubs just could

1314
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 5: not hold a lead tonight. Arizona has just beaten them

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01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 5: in the thirteenth and yet another comeback. Seven to six

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Speaker 5: is the final and the Dodgers have taken the lead.

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01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 5: It's one nothing now, bottom of the tenth at Seattle.

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01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 5: That's the last game on the board. Arizona's win means

1319
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 5: the Dodgers' magic number to clinch the NL West is

1320
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 5: still two at the moment. Colorado swept San Francisco in

1321
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 5: a doubleheader. Milwaukee and Philadelphia got wins. Baltimore's alone and

1322
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 5: first in the AL East again after shutting out Tampa

1323
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 5: Bay eight to nothing. You're mentioning NFL, we have these

1324
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 5: injury items for tomorrow to update, ESPN saying Green Bay

1325
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 5: running back Aaron Jones likely out tomorrow with his hamstring injury,

1326
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 5: and same for wide receiver Christian Watson likely out with

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01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 5: a bad hamstring. Wide receiver Deontae Johnson of the Steelers

1328
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 5: out with a bad hamstring as Pittsburgh host Cleveland in

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01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 5: one of the Monday games, and Browns wide receiver Marii

1330
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 5: Cooper aggravated a groin injury today he's questionable. Chargers running

1331
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 5: back Austin Eckler out tomorrow with a sprained ankle and

1332
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 5: a note from the NBA as the Cleveland Cavaliers team

1333
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 5: president Kobe Altman was arrested overnight and charged with operating

1334
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 5: a vehicle under the influence. This is the guy who's

1335
01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 5: been with the Cavs organization for over a decade, became

1336
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 5: general manager a few years back, now president of basketball operations.

1337
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 5: He has an extension that runs through twenty twenty eight.

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01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve de Sager,

1339
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,639
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Air towards Jason Martin

1340
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,599
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from thee Tireck dot Com studios to Saga.

1341
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 2: Will be back with us in just a few moments

1342
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 2: for his extended update. Speaking of updates, Colorado State up

1343
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 2: twenty one to fourteen. They were in the red zone

1344
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 2: and fumbled. So I don't want to call it a

1345
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 2: break because it was a good defensive play by Colorado,

1346
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 2: but they have the ball back now and driving. It

1347
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 2: is worth noting. A reporter on the scene for ESPN,

1348
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 2: Kyle Bornega, said that Shor Sanders came out of the tunnel, limping.

1349
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 2: He is playing, but that offensive line is doing him

1350
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 2: absolutely no favors. Tonight, Colorado trailing Colorado State twenty one

1351
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 2: to fourteen, nine minutes and forty five or so seconds

1352
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 2: left in the third quarter. Jason really quick put a

1353
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 2: little bit of a bow on week Week one in

1354
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 2: the NFL. I want to ask you your biggest surprise

1355
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 2: in Week one, and I'll say mine because I kind

1356
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 2: of teased it. You know, we were talking about offensive coaches,

1357
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 2: defensive coaches, whatever.

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01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 1: You know.

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01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 2: I don't know that it was a huge surprise, but

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01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:19,879
Speaker 2: I will say I think we spent all off season

1361
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 2: talking about what could happen to the Dolphins, ye if

1362
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 2: Tua gets hurt, And that's an awful way to think

1363
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 2: about things, but I think it's fair given his background.

1364
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 2: Why I bring it up, and maybe because it was

1365
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 2: the local game in LA and I watch pretty much

1366
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 2: every snap of it. You forget how fun that team

1367
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 2: is with an offensive coach and Mike McDaniel, those two

1368
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 2: incredible receivers. When Tua is healthy, they are such a

1369
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 2: fun team. And listen, I hope he stays healthy. Because

1370
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 2: of his health. I don't want to see a young

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01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 2: man be injured or have his career on the line.

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01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 2: We know about his background, but they're also just such

1373
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 2: a fun team when that guy is is able to play,

1374
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 2: as they take care of business in Week one. And

1375
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Speaker 2: I'll say this too, you look at that division now

1376
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 2: with Buffalo, with the Jets with no longer no longer

1377
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 2: having Aaron Rodgers, the Miami Dolphins even you know, they

1378
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:13,759
Speaker 2: didn't even play on Monday night, but they were the biggest,

1379
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 2: you know, probably the biggest winners of the weekend because

1380
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 2: that division all of a sudden looks a lot more

1381
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 2: wide open than maybe we even thought a week ago.

1382
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I did the segment I did last night

1383
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 1: when I was filling in for Bernie was what are they?

1384
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 1: What were the best performances that I saw and whether

1385
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 1: they were surprises or not, Miami's offense, Dallas's defense, and

1386
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 1: an overall performance to the Niners. Those were my responses.

1387
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 1: And Mike McDaniel really knows how to run an offense

1388
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 1: that much. We already know his time under Kyle Shanahan

1389
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 1: was well spent. He's a genius and you saw a

1390
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 1: lot of wrinkles like that last week. But your points, right, like,

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01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 1: I don't think that it was as much of a

1392
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 1: surprise as it was a reminder how formidable Miami is

1393
01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 1: at full strength. My only hesitation about them was not

1394
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 1: about the ability of their quarterback. It was about the

1395
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: availability of their quarterback. And I still think that that's

1396
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: going to continue to dog them, at least in my

1397
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 1: own mind, all year long. And as you said, I

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01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,640
Speaker 1: echo the sentiment a million percent. I hope he's going

1399
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 1: to be healthy all the way through the year as well,

1400
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:18,639
Speaker 1: because this is going to be a lot of fun

1401
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 1: to watch. And outside of that, I think the most

1402
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 1: obvious one is just how inep the Bengals offense looked.

1403
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 1: I mean, the brown We talked about how the AFC

1404
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 1: North was kind of loaded, that there wasn't really a

1405
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 1: bad team there. We're not really buying into the Kenny

1406
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 1: Pickett hype as strongly as some but the Ravens were

1407
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 1: going to be interesting, certainly without Greg Roman, and then

1408
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 1: we knew what the Bengals were going to be bringing,

1409
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 1: and the Browns, like it or not, had a lot

1410
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 1: of talent. Of course, Miles Garrett's a former you know,

1411
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 1: right there, Defensive Player of the Year Candida year in

1412
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 1: and year out and they dominated the Bengals, and I

1413
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 1: think it revealed it was a weird offseason for Cincinnati

1414
01:12:57,920 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 1: with the injury and the ramp up period. I think

1415
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 1: for Burrough was just different and he didn't look right

1416
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 1: and he goes against another team tomorrow that he has

1417
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 1: struggled with in his career in Baltimore. I think that's

1418
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 1: probably it is just I didn't expect them to come

1419
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 1: out and be that flat in Week one, But you

1420
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 1: kind of took my answer because I do feel like

1421
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 1: the Miami just the offensive explosion that we saw there

1422
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 1: was big. Now that's why Prime Time, by the way

1423
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:29,640
Speaker 1: against the Patriots is so interesting because Chargers don't have

1424
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 1: a particularly good defense, the Patriots do, and it's a

1425
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 1: division game and it's in Foxborough. I'm really interested to

1426
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 1: see the Mike McDaniel offense against the Belichick defense.

1427
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 2: I think it's a great point and think it'll be

1428
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 2: a fun game that the Patriots, obviously we talked about

1429
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 2: a little bit earlier with the Eagles. Patriots, look, you know,

1430
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 2: they look good. I mean, they're they're limited. They are

1431
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 2: who they are, and that's been a problem with them

1432
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 2: dating back to when Tom Brady was there as far

1433
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 2: as having enough weapons and everything, but their sound fundamentally

1434
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 2: looked good. That will be a fun game on Sunday night,

1435
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin broadcasting live from THEE

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Speaker 2: tireck dot com Studios. Colorado States still holding on to

1437
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 2: a twenty one to fourteen lead against Colorado. We had

1438
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 2: a little bit of a horse collar on a tackle,

1439
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,679
Speaker 2: so Colorado State's gonna get the ball at pass, probably

1440
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 2: past midfield when it's all said and done, up twenty

1441
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 2: one to fourteen in this game, nine minutes left. Tell

1442
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 2: you what. We'll come back to Sager with his extended update.

1443
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 2: He'll catch you, get us caught up on everything that

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01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 2: we missed throughout the day. This is Fox Sports Radio.

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01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio, Eric Torres Jason Martin

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01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 2: morning on the East Coast, late Saturday everywhere else. We

1452
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 2: toss it over the news desk. Saga, take it away

1453
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 2: with your extended updates.

1454
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 5: Guys, there was a score today in college football you

1455
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 5: would not believe. Two quick notes, though, we've just finished

1456
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 5: the longest baseball game by time in this Major League season.

1457
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 5: The Cubs kept blowing leads, and in thirteen innings Arizona

1458
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 5: seven to sixth the final in four hours and twenty

1459
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 5: four minutes, even starting with a runner at second base

1460
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 5: in all the extra innings. Dodgers have retaken the lead

1461
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 5: in the eleventh to one at Seattle. Now do you

1462
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 5: remember the Oregon Ducks in their season opener hosted Portland

1463
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 5: State and beat them eighty one to seven. Portland State

1464
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 5: got a victory today by an even worse score if

1465
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 5: you can believe that they were playing the completely unknown

1466
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 5: North American University, apparently a small school from Houston, a

1467
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:48,599
Speaker 5: team that opened with a fifty to fourteen loss at

1468
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 5: Whyland Baptist and then dreaded North American. You had its

1469
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,839
Speaker 5: home opener. They play at the local school district stadium,

1470
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 5: and they lost sixty five to ten to Texas Wesleyan.

1471
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 5: Then they tried travel to Portland State. Today Portland State

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01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 5: vikings zero to two so far, Portland State's winning at

1473
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 5: halftime sixty three to nothing. Final score ninety one to

1474
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 5: nothing against North American. You and that ninety one nothing

1475
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 5: that was the score late third quarter. There was no

1476
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 5: scoring after that. The visiting team had two first downs

1477
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 5: for the entire game. And something I do not recall

1478
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:29,759
Speaker 5: ever seeing total yardage minus twenty three for the game

1479
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 5: because one of the tribes ended with the punter losing

1480
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 5: twenty nine yards. Whether it was a fake and anyway,

1481
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 5: he fumbled, he went backwards, and they were in the

1482
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 5: negative for the day.

1483
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 2: Ninety one nothing.

1484
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:45,560
Speaker 5: Portland State wins and the other team finishes with negative yardage.

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01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 2: I do see they play Oklahoma Panhandle State in a

1486
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 2: few weeks. Do you think they'll hold up well on

1487
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 2: that one? That's Is that true? I'll say no, yes,

1488
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 2: that is true. That is on their schedule in late October.

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01:16:56,479 --> 01:17:00,040
Speaker 2: That's right in between Southwestern Assemblies of God University and

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Speaker 2: and then the following week they play University of Fort Lauderdale.

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Speaker 2: So you talk about a murderer's row, like three games.

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01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, by the time they finished at Arkansas Baptists, just

1493
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:08,640
Speaker 5: forget about it.

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01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't.

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01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 1: Even.

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01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 5: By the way, Penn State did have a game in

1497
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety one. Penn State shut out Cincinnati eighty one

1498
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 5: to nothing that particular day, and apparently even at Penn

1499
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 5: State's stadium, that was a couple thousand fans short of

1500
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 5: a sellouts that actually ended their string at the time,

1501
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 5: they'd had seventy seven straight sellouts and then some people

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01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 5: didn't show up for an eighty one nothing victory. Anyway,

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01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 5: today it was ninety one to nothing Portland State the final.

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01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 1: You believe you're a player on that team. Absolutely, What

1505
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 1: do you do? What do you It's different if.

1506
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 5: You're at Oregon and you could say, hey, I played

1507
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 5: at Oregon. This is I mean, you're losing ninety one

1508
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 5: zip to a windless team on the road. I have

1509
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 5: no idea ouch man, ouch, it's bad.

1510
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

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01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 5: It was probably typified by the punter losing twenty nine yards,

1512
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 5: so the team goes into the negative for the day. Well,

1513
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 5: we had a hero kicking at Missouri today. A sixty

1514
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 5: one yard field goal on the final play beat Kansas

1515
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 5: State thirty to twenty seven, and it came after a

1516
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 5: five yard delay of game penalty. It could have been

1517
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 5: a fifty six yard kick and he made it from

1518
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 5: sixty one instead. That's Missouri kicker Harrison Meavs, you know,

1519
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 5: the thicker kicker. More on that in the moment. This

1520
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 5: is the longest field goal made by any SEC team ever. Now,

1521
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 5: Missouri in its program history had made a sixty two

1522
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 5: yard before, but that was back in the eighties, back

1523
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 5: when they were in the Big Eight Conference. It was

1524
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 5: the longest in SEC history. And Harrison Meavis at two

1525
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 5: hundred and forty five pounds, does have an nil deal

1526
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 5: with the local campus bar and grill. There there is

1527
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 5: a burger that's apparently monstrous that is named for him.

1528
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 5: So this is a guy who, on field goal attempts

1529
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 5: of fifty yards or longer, had already been in his

1530
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 5: career eleven of fifteen. This is four seasons at Missouri

1531
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 5: hadn't done that well overall this year three of six

1532
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 5: on kicks, and he hits a sixty one yarder to

1533
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 5: beat Kansas State today.

1534
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:12,679
Speaker 1: They got to get his turkey leg now and that.

1535
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 5: Adam menu item certainly do you recall when Kevin Butler

1536
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 5: was hitting one long field goal after another for Georgia

1537
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 5: Bulldogs back in the eighties. Back then they had a

1538
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 5: practice where the holder in college football could actually have

1539
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 5: like a flat tee a square that he could put

1540
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,759
Speaker 5: down on the field and hold the ball as placement

1541
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 5: on top of that to help the kicker, especially on

1542
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 5: grass fields. That was banned in the late eighties. So

1543
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 5: when you see the old list of long sec field goals,

1544
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 5: those were pretty much all with the old rules. This

1545
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:49,759
Speaker 5: guy today at Missouri free and clear sixty one yards.

1546
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 5: Very very impressive. And if you didn't hear about the

1547
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 5: Texas game tonight ranked fourth, I haven't asked yet tonight

1548
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 5: is Texas back?

1549
01:19:58,479 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 1: Are they not backed?

1550
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 4: This?

1551
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:00,719
Speaker 1: Last week?

1552
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 5: They were tied with Wyoming ten ten to start the

1553
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 5: fourth quarter only on the Longhorn Network. By the way,

1554
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 5: thirty one to ten Texas is the final. They got

1555
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 5: three touchdowns in six and a half minutes, including a

1556
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 5: pick six, so people stopped sweating Colorado State leads at

1557
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:18,879
Speaker 5: Colorado late third twenty one to fourteen.

1558
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 2: Thank you, Steve to say your quick update from that game.

1559
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 2: By the way, Travis Hunter took a hard hit early

1560
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:26,680
Speaker 2: in that game and was apparently brought to a hospital.

1561
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 2: That was mentioned on the broadcast. Pete Thamil from ESPN

1562
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 2: with some details there, just taken there for evaluation. Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio Air Torris, Jason Martin. We'll come back. We'll

1564
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Speaker 2: talk Colorado, Colorado State, and can Alabama save its season?

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Speaker 2: with the lead twenty one to fourteen, although the Colorado

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Speaker 2: Buffaloes are driving again. A minute to go in the

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Speaker 2: third Colorado State up on Colorado. We'll keep you updated

1580
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Speaker 2: on that one, Jason, But I do want to go

1581
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 2: back to the lead story of our show. Earlier in

1582
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 2: the show, we did discuss the Alabama and South Florida game.

1583
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 2: Excuse me. Alabama does win seventeen to three, but it

1584
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 2: wasn't pretty. It wasn't pretty. Alabama ends up holding on.

1585
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,919
Speaker 2: They finished with one hundred and seven yards passing offense

1586
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 2: in this game. Now, admittedly, listen, the weather got really bad,

1587
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 2: there was a weather delay, all of that. But why

1588
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:12,559
Speaker 2: I bring it up is because Jaylen Millroe, who started

1589
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 2: last week against Texas, he was benched. Tyler Buckner starts

1590
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 2: in his place, He goes five to fourteen passing, and

1591
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 2: he is benched for ty Simpson, who as of last

1592
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 2: week was the third stringer and actually looked a little

1593
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 2: bit decent, but really, you know, ultimately struggled pretty much

1594
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 2: like everybody else has. Alabama does hold on to win, Jason,

1595
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:38,759
Speaker 2: but quarterback seems to be an issue. Offensive line seems

1596
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 2: to be an issue. Alabama was able to run the

1597
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 2: ball a little bit late, but that felt more like

1598
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 2: a byproduct of just wearing down the South Florida defense

1599
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 2: than any type of domination up front. Doesn't look good,

1600
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 2: Jason for Alabama, which is two and one, but really

1601
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 2: struggled against South Florida, which admittedly is probably the worst

1602
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:58,720
Speaker 2: team left on their schedule, and there don't appear to

1603
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:00,719
Speaker 2: be a lot of obvious answers on this roster.

1604
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 1: No, and the quarterback that's going to take them to

1605
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 1: the Promised Land doesn't exist right now. Milrow. Maybe maybe

1606
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 1: you know, he's somebody that grows into something, and you

1607
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 1: know the guy that comes in late in the game

1608
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 1: is somebody that you know can play. Ty is somebody

1609
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 1: that was highly recruited, but he's not ready yet. Maybe

1610
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 1: he becomes ready, but that's not a fix that happens

1611
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 1: this year. You look at the rest of the schedule

1612
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 1: right now for Alabama, at least what's relevant on it.

1613
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 1: They play Ole Miss next week, they get them at home,

1614
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 1: but I don't know that that matters. Almost didn't look

1615
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 1: great against Georgia Tech, but they pulled away late tonight.

1616
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 1: They play Tennessee, they play LSU, they play Auburn. They

1617
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 1: also get A and M in there the SEC. The

1618
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 1: one benefit if you're an Alabama fan right now, because

1619
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 1: I don't think the College Football Playoff is something that

1620
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 1: needs to be talked about regarding Alabama this year. I

1621
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,559
Speaker 1: just I don't see it I don't think that it

1622
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:01,640
Speaker 1: is a discussion that needs to be had. They're not

1623
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:03,720
Speaker 1: good enough to be in the college football playoffs. They're

1624
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 1: just not They're not deep enough. The secondary is to struggle.

1625
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 1: The offensive line is a struggle. Not having a definitive

1626
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:13,639
Speaker 1: QB one that really should be a QB one at

1627
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 1: a university like Alabama, that's a concern. But the one

1628
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 1: saving grace that you do have is that it does

1629
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 1: appear like the SEC is kind of weak this year,

1630
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 1: So you're going to potentially end up in spots where

1631
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 1: you're competitive enough to maybe win a few of these games,

1632
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 1: pickoff games that if some of these schools were really

1633
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 1: firing on all cylinders, you wouldn't. But this Alabama team,

1634
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:43,640
Speaker 1: the fix doesn't exist. As we've talked about throughout this program,

1635
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 1: this is going to be one of those years I

1636
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 1: predict right now. I think nine to three is the

1637
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 1: is the ceiling for this team. I just do. I mean,

1638
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 1: they've already lost one. You look at the rest of

1639
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 1: this schedule. If you're going to struggle like that against

1640
01:24:57,000 --> 01:25:01,639
Speaker 1: South Florida and you know that the quarterback's not there,

1641
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 1: then you have to rely on everybody else that you

1642
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:10,160
Speaker 1: play falling apart more than you've fallen apart in order

1643
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 1: to end up with a ten win season. I just

1644
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 1: don't see it.

1645
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 2: The only saving grace, as you just said, the SEC

1646
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 2: right now is really struggling. LSU obviously took the loss

1647
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 2: to Florida State, Ole Miss today did win, but they

1648
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,559
Speaker 2: had trouble putting away Georgia, Tech A and M We

1649
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 2: talked about them last week. Tennessee loses to Florida game

1650
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,680
Speaker 2: that we didn't even really talk about tonight, Jason. So

1651
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 2: that's the only saving grace, by the way, at Kentucky

1652
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,759
Speaker 2: at Auburn, the final two regular season games in the SEC.

1653
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 2: You know, earlier in the show, we had Ryan Fowler

1654
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 2: around Tied one hundred point nine. He hosts Monday through

1655
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 2: Friday down there in Tuscaloosa, and we asked him about

1656
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:51,679
Speaker 2: the possibility of retirement. I'm gonna play it in a minute,

1657
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 2: but you know, I'll tell you what. Let's go ahead

1658
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 2: and play. Ryan Fowler was on earlier again, tied one

1659
01:25:57,400 --> 01:25:59,759
Speaker 2: hundred point nine. He hosts Monday through Friday in Tuscal

1660
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 2: loose so, and we asked him if things go bad,

1661
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 2: is this the end for Nick Saban.

1662
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 4: No, I don't see Nick Saban retiring, but I do

1663
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 4: see a big adjustments that need it, and I do

1664
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 4: ask the question, does he have enough energy to make

1665
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 4: these difficult decisions to be able to get it headed

1666
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 4: the right direction?

1667
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 2: That was Ryan Fowler again tied one hundred point nine,

1668
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 2: joining us earlier in the show. If you missed any

1669
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 2: of it, make sure to go back and download the

1670
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 2: podcast after. But I'll just I'll cut to the chase Jason.

1671
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:32,679
Speaker 2: He said, the ceiling for this team right now appears

1672
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 2: to be nine to three. Let's say they don't quite

1673
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 2: hit the ceiling. Let's say they go eight and four

1674
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:41,879
Speaker 2: this year, which would be by far the worst regular

1675
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:44,600
Speaker 2: season that Alabama has had under Nick Saban since his

1676
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 2: first season, which was all the way back in two

1677
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 2: thousand and seven. You heard what Ryan Fowler said, Nick

1678
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 2: Saban isn't a quitter. He's not going to give up.

1679
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 2: But he also said he's seventy two years old. He'll

1680
01:26:57,040 --> 01:27:00,200
Speaker 2: be seventy two years old later this fall. Does he

1681
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 2: have the energy because again, you know the Steve Sarkisians,

1682
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 2: the Kirby Smart's, like those guys aren't out there to

1683
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:10,640
Speaker 2: help him and be part of what he's doing. The

1684
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 2: offensive line is a mess and has been a mess

1685
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 2: for two years now. The quarterback, you know, Bryce Young

1686
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:18,760
Speaker 2: bailed him out, but there is no Bryce Young on

1687
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 2: this roster. And oh, by the way, even if you

1688
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 2: know they have the number one quarterback signed for next year,

1689
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 2: it's not as though he's gonna be ready to play

1690
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:27,639
Speaker 2: next year. It's gonna be a two year proposition with him.

1691
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 2: So the quarterback situation, unless you can find a guy

1692
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 2: in the portal that's ready to play next year, is

1693
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 2: it's probably not getting solved overnight. It's my question for you, Jason,

1694
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 2: do you think he has enough in the tank to

1695
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 2: turn this thing around? Because I don't see it turning

1696
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:46,760
Speaker 2: around either this year, even though the SEC is down.

1697
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 2: I just I still think there's too many good teams,

1698
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 2: too many tough road environments. Do you think he has

1699
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:55,480
Speaker 2: it in him to turn this around? Because the answers

1700
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 2: don't appear to be on this roster, and it's not

1701
01:27:58,240 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 2: pretty right now.

1702
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 1: I see. I think it's doubtful on the energy thing.

1703
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 1: And this is what I have said now for a

1704
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:07,599
Speaker 1: couple of years before last season, and I set up

1705
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 1: that question to Feuler and I said, you know, before

1706
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 1: last season, I said three years, I think he'll be

1707
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 1: out and it's not about And he said, you know,

1708
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 1: he's not a quitter. I agree with that. I don't

1709
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 1: think he's a quitter. I don't think it's I don't

1710
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 1: think that's the that's the point. I think the point

1711
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:26,599
Speaker 1: is the way he finished that same answer. When you

1712
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 1: do take into consideration he's seventy two, you consider what's

1713
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 1: happening to college football as a whole. You look at

1714
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:36,640
Speaker 1: what's about to happen with the SEC bringing in Oklahoma

1715
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 1: in Texas. You look at the Big Ten and the redesign.

1716
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 1: You look at nil, you look at the transfer portal,

1717
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 1: you look at the complete lack of an authoritative body

1718
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 1: at present right now with the NCAA. You look at

1719
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:51,720
Speaker 1: all of that, and then you see yourself at seventy two,

1720
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 1: and you know, right now you're watching a team that's

1721
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 1: not up to par, that's not up to snuff with

1722
01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 1: what you're used to, and that it's probably nagging at

1723
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 1: you anyway. I just think the energy can just get

1724
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 1: snuffed right out of you. It's not about quitting. It's

1725
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:14,719
Speaker 1: about Danny Glover. I'm getting too old for this. It's

1726
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 1: lethal weapon, that's what it is. It's how much longer

1727
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 1: do you really have fun doing this? If you're not

1728
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 1: having fun anymore, go home, be with your wife, Go

1729
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:27,839
Speaker 1: take that big TV job they put you on. Anytime

1730
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:30,720
Speaker 1: you're not in the college football playoff, you're on a

1731
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 1: boost somewhere. If you want to do that, then that

1732
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:35,760
Speaker 1: option is going to be available to you. I think

1733
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 1: eventually the look the grind is a lot easier to

1734
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 1: tolerate when you're winning. Everything is better when you're winning.

1735
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:45,680
Speaker 1: If you're struggling and you're still trying to wrap your

1736
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:48,959
Speaker 1: brain around everything that's happening in the landscape of college football,

1737
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 1: I just think that can end up leaving you dry.

1738
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:56,679
Speaker 1: It can leave you kind of an energy desert, especially

1739
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:59,599
Speaker 1: at seventy two. And that's why I believe he walks away,

1740
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:03,640
Speaker 1: not because he can't win, not because he's quitting, just

1741
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:06,719
Speaker 1: because I think he's probably had about enough and there's

1742
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:08,759
Speaker 1: nothing really left for him to prove.

1743
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be interesting, because I, like I tend to

1744
01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:20,799
Speaker 2: think it's probably gonna end like Poorly, and Poorly's relative.

1745
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:24,559
Speaker 2: He's the greatest that we've ever seen it's not you know,

1746
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 2: gonna be whatever. But like I I think, if we're

1747
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 2: talking realistically, is Nick Sabin at seventy two years old

1748
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:35,960
Speaker 2: in October, you know October he'll turn seventy two. Is

1749
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 2: he ever gonna win another national championship? I think the

1750
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:41,439
Speaker 2: answer is probably know, because again, I don't think you

1751
01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 2: have that quarterback on the roster this year. Now, even

1752
01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:45,840
Speaker 2: if the SEC's bat you're still gonna run into a

1753
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 2: Quinnie Ers, a Caleb Williams of whoever a bow knicks

1754
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:53,719
Speaker 2: somebody like that in the postseason. Even if the SEC

1755
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 2: is terrible and you somehow survive it, you're gonna you're

1756
01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 2: gonna run into quarterback good quarterback play at some point.

1757
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:01,720
Speaker 2: I don't think you have the dudes. The one thing

1758
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:03,920
Speaker 2: I will say, and I think this is this was

1759
01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:08,880
Speaker 2: an interesting point by follower as well, is that maybe

1760
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:14,120
Speaker 2: the new you know, the new rules help Bama, right,

1761
01:31:14,200 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 2: because you can if you don't have the quarterback, go

1762
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:21,719
Speaker 2: get that guy in one offseason. You can fill roster

1763
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:25,760
Speaker 2: holes deficiencies in one offseason, whether it's on the offensive line,

1764
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 2: whether it's somewhere on the defense. Whatever. The other thing too,

1765
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:31,640
Speaker 2: with twelve team playoff coming, and I was thinking about this.

1766
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:34,760
Speaker 2: I was listening to one of Nick Saban's, you know,

1767
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 2: press conferences this week, or it wasn't the press conference,

1768
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:39,680
Speaker 2: it was when he was on with Pat McAfee, and

1769
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 2: he was talking about, you know, it's a process, staying

1770
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 2: the course, blah blah blah blah blah, this and that,

1771
01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:47,000
Speaker 2: and I will say is weirdness. It sounds with the

1772
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:49,360
Speaker 2: twelve team college football playoff like it sounds like it

1773
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 2: just became that much harder because you have to win

1774
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 2: at least one more and maybe even two more games

1775
01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:59,640
Speaker 2: in a season, but one or two like Alabama, if

1776
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 2: they can just get competent quarterback play, they should be

1777
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:05,200
Speaker 2: in that playoff every single year. And then it's can

1778
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:09,719
Speaker 2: you get hot once you're there? So maybe those things

1779
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 2: sustain him. But I do tend to agree with you,

1780
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 2: Jason Is. I think the clock is really ticking, and

1781
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:18,160
Speaker 2: I think the energy thing is a real thing. When

1782
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 2: you have a bunch of coordinator, you know, a bunch

1783
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:22,840
Speaker 2: of coaches that you're not familiar with. Kirby Smart was

1784
01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:25,640
Speaker 2: around forever, he's not around. Steve Sarkisian had with you

1785
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 2: for a while. He's not around. I just think it's

1786
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 2: really tough. And you brought up the great point. It's

1787
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:33,640
Speaker 2: one thing to reload a roster every single year, but

1788
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 2: when you're losing a star coordinator and then he's bringing

1789
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:40,280
Speaker 2: four or five coaches with him to the next spot,

1790
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:43,000
Speaker 2: it's just a lot to ask to reshake up your

1791
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 2: staff four five, six guys every single year. Keep that continuity,

1792
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 2: and I think that's ultimately what could do him.

1793
01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:51,960
Speaker 1: In Yeah, and again, you're turning that staff over, not

1794
01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:54,800
Speaker 1: one time. You're turning over, especially on the offensive side.

1795
01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:58,639
Speaker 1: You're turning over an offensive coordinator pretty regularly. If you're

1796
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:03,640
Speaker 1: a Nick Saban at Alabama, and eventually you're just not

1797
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 1: going to have the A guy. You're gonna have the

1798
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:09,599
Speaker 1: C plus guy, or you're gonna have the B minus guy.

1799
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:12,759
Speaker 1: You're always gonna have your pick of somebody that's competent.

1800
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:17,400
Speaker 1: But you've gotten used to a certain lifestyle. And another

1801
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:21,760
Speaker 1: thing Fowler said was that the coordinators got lazy over

1802
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:24,599
Speaker 1: the last few years because how because of how special

1803
01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:27,679
Speaker 1: Bryce Young was, and we talked about this last year,

1804
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:30,880
Speaker 1: Bryce Young didn't I don't think Bryce Young got enough

1805
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:32,840
Speaker 1: credit for what he did last year because I didn't

1806
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:35,800
Speaker 1: think that team was very good, but Bryce Young would

1807
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:38,559
Speaker 1: put them in a scenario where they could always win

1808
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 1: on his back. And the same thing was true with

1809
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, who ends up winning the Heisman, and deservedly so.

1810
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:49,599
Speaker 1: But I thought those two guys were mammoth in that regard.

1811
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:53,400
Speaker 1: And really and truly we do need to start looking

1812
01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:56,120
Speaker 1: at how difficult it can be to reload, not just

1813
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 1: and we talked about the coaches, but certainly at the

1814
01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:02,600
Speaker 1: quarterback spot. But if you're Alabama, you should never be

1815
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:06,280
Speaker 1: in a situation where you don't have an answer at

1816
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 1: all at quarterback, not in twenty twenty three. Not with

1817
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 1: the football factory that you have created, instituted and in

1818
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:17,720
Speaker 1: effect you have used it to dominate the sport more

1819
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:21,760
Speaker 1: than anyone else in Nick Saban's tenure over this last

1820
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:25,240
Speaker 1: fifteen year span or however long it's been Exactly that

1821
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:27,679
Speaker 1: should not be a thing that is happening. That's what's

1822
01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:28,640
Speaker 1: so baffling about it.

1823
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 7: To me.

1824
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:31,240
Speaker 1: Even though you have a lot of other problems, the

1825
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:34,040
Speaker 1: fact that you don't have a quarterback that can help

1826
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:37,160
Speaker 1: you in this scenario is mind blowing.

1827
01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:41,640
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1835
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:05,679
Speaker 2: one to seventeen Colorado State driving with about twelve minutes left.

1836
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:09,400
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1837
01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:12,200
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1839
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1840
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:22,080
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1852
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 2: Colorado up twenty eight, Colorado State up twenty eight seventeen,

1853
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:10,559
Speaker 2: nine minutes forty five seconds left. Colorado is driving though,

1854
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:15,240
Speaker 2: trying to get something going offensively. The Buffalo's trying to

1855
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:19,599
Speaker 2: stay undefeated. It is twenty eight to seventeen, as I said,

1856
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:22,360
Speaker 2: about nine minutes and thirty seconds left in the third

1857
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:25,680
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1858
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1864
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Speaker 2: How you doing well?

1865
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:45,760
Speaker 9: As the man once said, everybody's got a plan to

1866
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:48,640
Speaker 9: get hit. So we'll see what Colorado can do in

1867
01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:51,000
Speaker 9: the final nine minutes here. But in the words of

1868
01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 9: the great Jim Leland, my guy, I really grew to respect.

1869
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:57,719
Speaker 9: Remember they give scholarships on the other side as well.

1870
01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:00,519
Speaker 2: It's such a great point. But before he's rob burn,

1871
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:02,640
Speaker 2: I I want to ask you. You know, you're so

1872
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:06,840
Speaker 2: tied in in the state of Michigan, and Jason and

1873
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 2: I have been talking a lot about Nick Saban tonight

1874
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:13,640
Speaker 2: and how much if he doesn't have a team that

1875
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:15,559
Speaker 2: could compete at the highest level, and it doesn't look

1876
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 2: like this team is it they didn't last year, how

1877
01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:21,600
Speaker 2: long he'll go Michigan. Nick Saban, of course, began his

1878
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:24,439
Speaker 2: college coaching career at Michigan State, at least at the

1879
01:37:24,520 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 2: high major level. I know you know people that know

1880
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:32,200
Speaker 2: coach Saban. Do you think that if this team bottoms out,

1881
01:37:32,200 --> 01:37:35,160
Speaker 2: which by Alabama standards is seven and five, eight and four,

1882
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:37,559
Speaker 2: that this could potentially be his last season?

1883
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:41,320
Speaker 9: Zero chance, Barnie. But did I ever tell you guys

1884
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:42,760
Speaker 9: the story. I'm not going to do it tonight because

1885
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 9: we got too much to get to. Nineteen ninety five,

1886
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:49,640
Speaker 9: I was part of a golf scramble Gulf giving to

1887
01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:52,920
Speaker 9: others last fortunate it was well, WTK and an armber

1888
01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:56,720
Speaker 9: and it was in the same foursome well as Nick

1889
01:37:56,760 --> 01:37:58,640
Speaker 9: Saban He well, he had his three sime and we

1890
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:01,519
Speaker 9: had a threesome. And I will tell you that story.

1891
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:03,840
Speaker 9: So I've been around him. Do I know him, No,

1892
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 9: But I've been around him. I've studied him, observed him.

1893
01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:09,679
Speaker 9: I believe he's got four years left on his contract.

1894
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:11,880
Speaker 9: I'd be shocked if he doesn't, he's not there for all,

1895
01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:12,719
Speaker 9: I'd be shocked.

1896
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:16,160
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, Tom's gonna tell what do you think's

1897
01:38:16,160 --> 01:38:19,439
Speaker 1: wrong with Alabama right now? From your perspective, Like, I mean,

1898
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:21,360
Speaker 1: we talked a lot on this show about it, Bernie,

1899
01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:23,960
Speaker 1: but they this doesn't look like anything that's gonna be

1900
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:26,200
Speaker 1: fixed this year. This feels like it could be just

1901
01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:29,360
Speaker 1: one of those years that even great programs can have

1902
01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:31,400
Speaker 1: from time to time where it's a three four loss

1903
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:33,080
Speaker 1: season and you just look the next year.

1904
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:36,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's an excellent question. The box score today tells

1905
01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:40,519
Speaker 9: the story. Bamin was five of fifteen on third down.

1906
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:43,519
Speaker 9: He threw for a whopping one hundred and seven yards

1907
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:47,160
Speaker 9: average four yards per pass. YadA, YadA, YadA. They were

1908
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:50,760
Speaker 9: not good. They're not good. They're not good. On the

1909
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:55,400
Speaker 9: offensive or defensive line. They've got one running bat that's

1910
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:59,400
Speaker 9: fairly legitimate. Their wide receiver room is probably the worst

1911
01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 9: it's been someon the Mike Shula days. And they don't

1912
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:04,400
Speaker 9: have a quarterback if they if they really thought Jalen

1913
01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:08,040
Speaker 9: Millroll was a major league quarterback by Alabama standards? Why

1914
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:11,280
Speaker 9: would Tyler Buckner transfer in when he couldn't even start

1915
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:15,320
Speaker 9: a Notre Dame. So look, Nick Saban's not stupid. He'll adapt.

1916
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:16,400
Speaker 1: Guys.

1917
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Speaker 9: How long ago was it what twenty twelve, twenty thirteen

1918
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:24,719
Speaker 9: when Saban was yapping about college football offenses are unfair

1919
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:28,400
Speaker 9: because of all the spread offenses and you are rotating

1920
01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:30,360
Speaker 9: guys in and out on defense, and they're gonna be

1921
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:31,960
Speaker 9: able to do that now because they're going to get

1922
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:33,960
Speaker 9: up to the line of scrimmage run it's unfair. Well,

1923
01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:36,559
Speaker 9: guess who started running the spread offense? Who did it

1924
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:39,639
Speaker 9: better than anybody? Nick Saban? We're going through an nil

1925
01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:42,719
Speaker 9: situation right now, we're going through a transfer portal situation.

1926
01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:45,479
Speaker 9: Saban will adapt. This is not going to be a

1927
01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:48,200
Speaker 9: great year, but you'll hear from Nick Saban again.

1928
01:39:48,439 --> 01:39:50,439
Speaker 2: Burn, I know we got to get to some NFL stuff.

1929
01:39:50,439 --> 01:39:53,200
Speaker 2: But I am curious again, you're so plugged in the Midwest.

1930
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:58,240
Speaker 2: Ohio State dominates today, Michigan dominates today, Penn State dominates

1931
01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:01,920
Speaker 2: today in a sloppy for Illinois. What do you make

1932
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:03,960
Speaker 2: at the top of the Big Ten feels really strong,

1933
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:05,840
Speaker 2: feels like there's some real talent at the top of

1934
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Speaker 2: that league.

1935
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Speaker 9: Well, that's what everybody's telling us, But no one's been

1936
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:10,559
Speaker 9: tested yet.

1937
01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:11,599
Speaker 1: So I know.

1938
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:15,639
Speaker 9: Michigan just came off that amazingly Hamburger Hill Gauntlet against

1939
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:19,000
Speaker 9: Bowling Green UNLV and East Carolina.

1940
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:21,240
Speaker 2: V beat Vandy today. Baby, come on, you know what.

1941
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:23,880
Speaker 9: They're They're very well coached. Barry Odam from Missouri to

1942
01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:26,400
Speaker 9: do a night job. Nice job. So look, Michigan's got

1943
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 9: two games on their schedule that Penn State and Ohio State.

1944
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 9: Ohio State's got Penn State at home. You get the drill.

1945
01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:35,080
Speaker 9: It's gonna come down to those three. I don't think

1946
01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:37,840
Speaker 9: this Michigan team is as talented as teams in the past.

1947
01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:40,080
Speaker 9: They certainly don't have enough the kind of weapons he

1948
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:43,400
Speaker 9: had on offense, so as Harbaugh did in twenty sixteen

1949
01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:46,679
Speaker 9: and the Chase Winovich Tour revenge Tour three years ago,

1950
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:50,240
Speaker 9: four years ago. I don't think Michigan's gonna finish this deal.

1951
01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:52,800
Speaker 9: I think you're gonna see a very angry Ohio State

1952
01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 9: team emerged from the pack.

1953
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Speaker 1: That's my thoughts, all right. So now I have to

1954
01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:59,240
Speaker 1: ask you something real fast, and that's just Look, Ohio

1955
01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:02,160
Speaker 1: State hasn't been tested, and I'm still not so sure

1956
01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:04,240
Speaker 1: about their offense. I mean, I know what they could

1957
01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 1: do from skill talent perspective, but what's mccorr gonna do

1958
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:10,320
Speaker 1: long term? But they're playing against another team next week

1959
01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:14,240
Speaker 1: in Notre Dame. I'm fascinated by that because they haven't

1960
01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:18,280
Speaker 1: played anybody either, and they've looked really, really good. How

1961
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:21,320
Speaker 1: do you kind of assess that matchup early on between

1962
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:22,599
Speaker 1: Ohio State and Notre Dame.

1963
01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:27,280
Speaker 9: Ohio State has better talent, better to overall team, speed,

1964
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:31,320
Speaker 9: more weapons, so I expect that they'll get it done

1965
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:34,960
Speaker 9: against Notre Dame. Notre Dame is going to compete week

1966
01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:38,240
Speaker 9: in and week out because of Sam Hartman, but I

1967
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:41,320
Speaker 9: still would do a favorite Ohio State in that matchup.

1968
01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:44,519
Speaker 2: Burn Let's talk about Week two in the NFL. Give

1969
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:47,519
Speaker 2: us either your Week one takeaways, your Week two best bets, whatever,

1970
01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:49,120
Speaker 2: stands out to you in the league right now.

1971
01:41:49,400 --> 01:41:52,000
Speaker 9: Well, as I've been touting for the last several years,

1972
01:41:52,120 --> 01:41:56,080
Speaker 9: Week one divisional dogs continue to bark big time. They

1973
01:41:56,080 --> 01:41:58,599
Speaker 9: were five and two last week, and three of them

1974
01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:00,839
Speaker 9: went out right. You know, we gave all the reasons

1975
01:42:01,160 --> 01:42:02,880
Speaker 9: year after year. It seems like we've done this drill

1976
01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:04,679
Speaker 9: with you guys three four years in a row. Now,

1977
01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:08,040
Speaker 9: you know, all teams are at full strength. They're still optimistic.

1978
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:10,960
Speaker 9: Depression hasn't set up yet. The good teams haven't really

1979
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:13,559
Speaker 9: had a chance to fully gel and pull apart from

1980
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:16,519
Speaker 9: the pack. Coaches have both had months to game plan.

1981
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:19,439
Speaker 9: So divisional games Week one are very tight. They call

1982
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:22,519
Speaker 9: Week one in the NFL the Great Lighter, and that's

1983
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 9: because people can so easily form impressions and overreact. So

1984
01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:31,240
Speaker 9: you had eight teams lost by double digits in Week one,

1985
01:42:31,840 --> 01:42:34,680
Speaker 9: and so now you're seeing some inflated spreads and some

1986
01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 9: overreactions and over correction of odds. So here comes to

1987
01:42:38,360 --> 01:42:40,560
Speaker 9: another stat. Did you know that since the start of

1988
01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:43,519
Speaker 9: the twenty fourteen season, teams that lost by at least

1989
01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 9: ten points in Week one, they've covered the spread sixty

1990
01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 9: three percent of the time In Week two. There are

1991
01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:52,560
Speaker 9: seven such games. The two I like the most the Bengals.

1992
01:42:52,840 --> 01:42:55,120
Speaker 9: I think they have their way with Baltimore, and I

1993
01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:57,920
Speaker 9: grabbed the Seahawks a week ago plus six against Detroit.

1994
01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:00,720
Speaker 9: I think that's a very tight game. I don't know

1995
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:03,200
Speaker 9: that the Seahawks went out right, but I feel like

1996
01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:06,080
Speaker 9: it's a it's a field goal game. So I like

1997
01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:08,840
Speaker 9: those two to bounce back. The other thing too, since

1998
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:13,599
Speaker 9: twenty ten, home underdogs sixty four percent in Week two,

1999
01:43:14,200 --> 01:43:17,720
Speaker 9: so look for home underdogs as well. I like New

2000
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:19,759
Speaker 9: England a lot against Miami.

2001
01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:25,280
Speaker 1: Most champions in any sport get lucky to some degree,

2002
01:43:25,320 --> 01:43:27,960
Speaker 1: whether it's hell or or all sorts of things like that.

2003
01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:30,400
Speaker 1: So let's talk about the Lions for a second. The

2004
01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:33,720
Speaker 1: Lions got the Chiefs, they beat them. They catch them

2005
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:37,160
Speaker 1: without Kelsey and without Chris Jones. And the truth of

2006
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:39,759
Speaker 1: the matter is, and I've heard this from many NFL players,

2007
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:42,240
Speaker 1: they don't care about your problems or they're glad you

2008
01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:44,840
Speaker 1: got them one of the other. That's just kind of

2009
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:46,880
Speaker 1: the way it is. So you catch them while they're

2010
01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 1: down and you beat them, but hey, you've beaten them.

2011
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:51,559
Speaker 1: Now they're off your schedule. It happened to work in

2012
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:54,920
Speaker 1: your favor. But we also all three you, me and

2013
01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:57,439
Speaker 1: Aaron came into the season kind of pretty high on

2014
01:43:57,479 --> 01:44:00,000
Speaker 1: the Lions. Tell me how legit you feel they are

2015
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:01,200
Speaker 1: one weekend to the.

2016
01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:03,400
Speaker 9: Year, Well, I'm very plugged in. I talked to people

2017
01:44:03,439 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 9: at practice and something happened after week seven last year

2018
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:10,879
Speaker 9: that no one's talking about. Dan Campbell made a command

2019
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:15,400
Speaker 9: decision which really turned out to be very prescient. They

2020
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:18,479
Speaker 9: fired their defensive backs coach Aubrey Pleasant. He ran this

2021
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:21,280
Speaker 9: risk reward scheme that was ineffective, caused all kind of

2022
01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:24,639
Speaker 9: communication problems. So the Lions start out one and six.

2023
01:44:24,720 --> 01:44:27,400
Speaker 9: They installed the simpler system and it worked. They were

2024
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:29,599
Speaker 9: actually eight and two down the stretch. Now, their offense

2025
01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:32,320
Speaker 9: was good all year, but it was their defense.

2026
01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:32,519
Speaker 1: Had picked up.

2027
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:35,439
Speaker 9: But the Lions knew that they needed to get better

2028
01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:39,080
Speaker 9: in the offseason, particularly in the secondary. Remember Matt Millen's

2029
01:44:39,120 --> 01:44:42,000
Speaker 9: no longer there. Brad Holmes from the Rams was one

2030
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:44,320
Speaker 9: of the sharpest geams I think I've ever seen. They

2031
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:46,400
Speaker 9: go out and they get Cam Sutton from the Steelers,

2032
01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:49,880
Speaker 9: they get CJ. Gardner Johnson from the Eagles. They grab

2033
01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:52,559
Speaker 9: a manual mostly from the forty nine ers, all big

2034
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 9: upgrades from great cultures. They draft Jack Campbell from Iowa,

2035
01:44:56,160 --> 01:44:59,400
Speaker 9: who already had impact his first game, great open field tackler,

2036
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,720
Speaker 9: and then you bring in Brian Branch, the kid out

2037
01:45:02,760 --> 01:45:04,920
Speaker 9: of Alabama who has a pick six in his first game,

2038
01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:09,200
Speaker 9: Jamira Gibbs. He had a good effect. So the Lions

2039
01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:13,240
Speaker 9: personnel wise don't even resemble what they were two years ago,

2040
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:15,559
Speaker 9: much less last year. There were a lot better teams.

2041
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:18,439
Speaker 9: Suit to your point, Jason, it's one thing to get lucky.

2042
01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:20,040
Speaker 9: There's an old saying, be it the right place at

2043
01:45:20,080 --> 01:45:22,280
Speaker 9: the right time, but you got it out of a dendum.

2044
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:24,120
Speaker 9: Be it the right place at the right time, and

2045
01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 9: do something about it. Yes, Kadarius Tony dropped that pass

2046
01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:30,640
Speaker 9: which would have put Casey and field goal range. We

2047
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 9: might have had a different outcome. If IF's and butts

2048
01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:35,480
Speaker 9: or cherries and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas.

2049
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:40,439
Speaker 9: But everybody forgets Jared Goff had just taken the team

2050
01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:43,040
Speaker 9: on a nine place, seventy eight yard drive to take

2051
01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:45,719
Speaker 9: the league. This is the type of game the Lions

2052
01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:49,080
Speaker 9: and the pass would have lost, including the Matt Stafford teams. Now,

2053
01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:52,160
Speaker 9: I think Jackson Smith and jib was banged up heading

2054
01:45:52,160 --> 01:45:54,800
Speaker 9: into Sunday's game. Did they take advantage, I don't know,

2055
01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:57,800
Speaker 9: But the Lions also had the ninth easiest schedule of

2056
01:45:57,840 --> 01:46:00,800
Speaker 9: all their opponents in the National Football League, a four

2057
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:03,720
Speaker 9: ninety two schedule. I told you about the Vikings. The

2058
01:46:03,720 --> 01:46:06,240
Speaker 9: Pythagoream theorem is showing up. You can't give up more

2059
01:46:06,280 --> 01:46:08,800
Speaker 9: points than you then you will. You can't allow more

2060
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:10,680
Speaker 9: points than you score and expect to go thirteen and

2061
01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:14,120
Speaker 9: four Again, Justin Fields is nowhere near being ready. This

2062
01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:16,759
Speaker 9: is about to get ugly. He started twenty eight games.

2063
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:19,599
Speaker 9: People got to get off the bandwagon. It could get

2064
01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:22,760
Speaker 9: rough in Tampa Bay Sunday and Jordan Love looked pretty

2065
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:25,200
Speaker 9: good Game one. I don't think he can keep that up.

2066
01:46:25,439 --> 01:46:28,479
Speaker 9: This division is wide open. So the bottom line is

2067
01:46:28,479 --> 01:46:30,680
Speaker 9: maybe the Lions are getting a little lucky, but they

2068
01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:33,040
Speaker 9: actually have the person al on the field, the leadership,

2069
01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:35,439
Speaker 9: the culture, and the coaching to take advantage of it.

2070
01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:39,080
Speaker 2: He is Bernie Frado of the Bernie Fratto Show. You

2071
01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:41,160
Speaker 2: can hear him at the top of the hour. He

2072
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:45,080
Speaker 2: will be taking you up until what six am Eastern time? Bernie,

2073
01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:45,639
Speaker 2: I said.

2074
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:47,839
Speaker 9: Buddy yeah, weam Pacific six am Eastern.

2075
01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:50,479
Speaker 2: Well, we can't wait to listen to you have a

2076
01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:54,160
Speaker 2: great show. We're glad to have you back and we

2077
01:46:54,200 --> 01:46:56,320
Speaker 2: will be talking soon, my friend. Thank you, Bernie.

2078
01:46:56,600 --> 01:46:58,439
Speaker 9: Guys, enjoy your Sunday. Thanks so much.

2079
01:46:58,600 --> 01:47:01,120
Speaker 2: That is Bernie Fratto of Bernie Fratto Show. You can

2080
01:47:01,160 --> 01:47:02,640
Speaker 2: hear him at the top of the hour. Also make

2081
01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:07,200
Speaker 2: sure to follow him on Twitter at Bernie Frattle. Come back,

2082
01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:10,400
Speaker 2: react to someone what Bernie said, and get you well,

2083
01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:13,040
Speaker 2: get you to a final of this Colorado Colorado State game.

2084
01:47:13,120 --> 01:47:15,240
Speaker 2: Speaking of which, let's get over to the news desk

2085
01:47:15,320 --> 01:47:18,799
Speaker 2: to Sager late night. But we got some stuff trending

2086
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:19,719
Speaker 2: right now, my friend.

2087
01:47:19,880 --> 01:47:22,200
Speaker 5: I don't know how, but Colorado State is still winning

2088
01:47:22,240 --> 01:47:25,000
Speaker 5: at eighteenth th rank Colorado twenty eight to twenty with

2089
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:27,880
Speaker 5: about four minutes left, and they've just converted a pass

2090
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:31,320
Speaker 5: for a first down on third and five. This might

2091
01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:35,640
Speaker 5: actually happen. Colorado State with three touchdown passes in three turnovers.

2092
01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:39,120
Speaker 5: A little context here. Last year late season, Colorado State

2093
01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:43,200
Speaker 5: was two and nine and then they opened this season

2094
01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:46,160
Speaker 5: the only game they'd played so far, and they lost

2095
01:47:46,200 --> 01:47:49,439
Speaker 5: to Washington State fifty to twenty four in fact that

2096
01:47:49,640 --> 01:47:52,639
Speaker 5: was a home game and Colorado State was down thirty

2097
01:47:52,680 --> 01:47:54,479
Speaker 5: six to three early in the fourth.

2098
01:47:54,280 --> 01:47:56,080
Speaker 2: Quarter told you Washington State might be the best team

2099
01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:56,559
Speaker 2: in the country.

2100
01:47:56,880 --> 01:48:01,040
Speaker 10: Alabama out Washington State in But anyway, I did see

2101
01:48:01,040 --> 01:48:03,040
Speaker 10: a stat for one of the Pac twelve writers that

2102
01:48:03,120 --> 01:48:05,479
Speaker 10: if you add up the stats of like the Washington

2103
01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:08,599
Speaker 10: State and Washington quarterbacks and USC and one of it's

2104
01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:10,960
Speaker 10: like forty touchdowns one interception.

2105
01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:14,080
Speaker 5: So far for those big four. It's ridiculous. Meanwhile, speaking

2106
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:17,080
Speaker 5: of Pac twelve, Arizona State is hosting and getting shut

2107
01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:20,000
Speaker 5: out by Fresno State, which apparently will be three and

2108
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:23,479
Speaker 5: zero after tonight. Early fourth quarter on FS one, Fresno

2109
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:27,559
Speaker 5: State leads twenty nine to nothing at ASU. Fresno had

2110
01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:30,280
Speaker 5: close to three hundred yards passing the first three quarters.

2111
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:33,400
Speaker 5: Arizona leads twenty four to three over UTAP. Late in

2112
01:48:33,439 --> 01:48:36,519
Speaker 5: the third, Kansas has retaken the lead at Nevada thirty

2113
01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:40,080
Speaker 5: one to twenty four about five minutes left. It has

2114
01:48:40,120 --> 01:48:42,959
Speaker 5: not been a good day for the PICK twelve conference,

2115
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:46,519
Speaker 5: as we mentioned earlier. Now Kansas is winning, we gotta

2116
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:51,680
Speaker 5: say that, but wow, just wow. Oklahoma State lost at

2117
01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:55,479
Speaker 5: home to South Alabama thirty three to seven. Cincinnati in

2118
01:48:55,520 --> 01:48:58,240
Speaker 5: the Big twelve now had a late field goal attempt

2119
01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:00,519
Speaker 5: blocked in the fourth quarter, wound up blue get home

2120
01:49:00,520 --> 01:49:04,360
Speaker 5: in overtime to Miami Ohio thirty one twenty four. Elsewhere,

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Speaker 5: UNLV with a late field goal beat Vanderbilt forty to

2122
01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:10,439
Speaker 5: thirty seven. BYU want at Arkansas thirty eight thirty one.

2123
01:49:10,479 --> 01:49:13,519
Speaker 5: Despite trailing by ten in the third, Wake Forest needed

2124
01:49:13,520 --> 01:49:15,839
Speaker 5: two touchdowns in the fourth to win at Old Dominion

2125
01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:19,840
Speaker 5: twenty seven to twenty four. Ohio. You defeated Iowa State

2126
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:23,639
Speaker 5: ten to seven. West Virginia beat pitt seventeen to six.

2127
01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:27,320
Speaker 5: Syracuse won at Purdue thirty five to twenty and we

2128
01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:31,120
Speaker 5: have our first FCS win this season over a Power

2129
01:49:31,200 --> 01:49:34,040
Speaker 5: five team. Is Sacramento State scored in the last two

2130
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:37,040
Speaker 5: minutes to win at Stanford thirty to twenty three. Now,

2131
01:49:37,120 --> 01:49:40,200
Speaker 5: Sacramento State was superb last year twelve and one went

2132
01:49:40,240 --> 01:49:44,559
Speaker 5: to the FCS playoffs with coach Troy Taylor, who is

2133
01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:48,040
Speaker 5: now the Stanford coach, and lost at home to his

2134
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:52,040
Speaker 5: old team tonight. Troy Taylor, former quarterback at rival col

2135
01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:55,080
Speaker 5: By the Way, former radio analyst on the col network

2136
01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:58,160
Speaker 5: four years add tonight in the top ten. Number one

2137
01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:01,960
Speaker 5: Georgia did eventually beat South Carolina twenty four to fourteen.

2138
01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:05,000
Speaker 5: Bulldogs trailed at halftime fourteen to three. Georgia was one

2139
01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:08,519
Speaker 5: of three on field goal attempts. Number two Michigan was

2140
01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:11,000
Speaker 5: only ahead at the half against Bowling Green fourteen to

2141
01:50:11,080 --> 01:50:14,000
Speaker 5: six thirty one sixth the final total of seven turnovers

2142
01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:16,920
Speaker 5: in that game. Number three Florida State today led at

2143
01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:19,880
Speaker 5: Boston College thirty one ten late in the third quarter

2144
01:50:20,320 --> 01:50:23,320
Speaker 5: thirty one twenty nine the final as BC missed a

2145
01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:26,040
Speaker 5: two point pass early in the fourth after missing an

2146
01:50:26,040 --> 01:50:28,439
Speaker 5: extra point kick late in the third. Boston College with

2147
01:50:28,560 --> 01:50:32,439
Speaker 5: eighteen penalties and they lost by two. Florida States at

2148
01:50:32,439 --> 01:50:35,840
Speaker 5: Clemson next Saturday. Number four Texas this evening was tied

2149
01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:38,880
Speaker 5: with Wyoming ten ten to start the fourth quarter thirty

2150
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:42,240
Speaker 5: one ten the final. Sixth ranked Ohio State over Western

2151
01:50:42,320 --> 01:50:45,640
Speaker 5: Kentucky sixty three to ten. Buckeye scored five touchdowns in

2152
01:50:45,680 --> 01:50:48,360
Speaker 5: the last eleven minutes of the first half on Fox TV.

2153
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:51,200
Speaker 5: Number seven Penn State was a winner on Fox at

2154
01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:55,559
Speaker 5: Illinois thirty to thirteen. The Aliini with five turnovers. Number

2155
01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:59,400
Speaker 5: eight Washington forty one seven winners at Michigan State Spartans

2156
01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:03,120
Speaker 5: with eight ps and just seven points. Washington with over

2157
01:51:03,240 --> 01:51:06,600
Speaker 5: seven hundred yards of offense led by Michael Pennix and

2158
01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:10,040
Speaker 5: its four TD passes. Number nine Notre Dame over Central

2159
01:51:10,040 --> 01:51:13,800
Speaker 5: Michigan forty one seventeen. It was just a halftime lead

2160
01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:16,719
Speaker 5: of twenty one to fourteen Irish. Next Saturday night, Ohio

2161
01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:19,800
Speaker 5: State at Notre Dame, and number ten Alabama was tied

2162
01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:21,920
Speaker 5: at South Florida three to three in the third quarter

2163
01:51:22,479 --> 01:51:26,080
Speaker 5: seventeen to three the final. Each team's defense had five secs.

2164
01:51:26,600 --> 01:51:29,519
Speaker 5: South Florida is one and two lost its opener at

2165
01:51:29,560 --> 01:51:34,080
Speaker 5: Western Kentucky. Florida beat Tennessee tonight twenty nine sixteen wins

2166
01:51:34,120 --> 01:51:38,200
Speaker 5: for Utah and Oregon, wins for Oregon State, for LSU

2167
01:51:38,240 --> 01:51:41,479
Speaker 5: and Ole miss and Missouri won on a sixty one

2168
01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:44,519
Speaker 5: yard field goal on the final play, upsetting Number fifteen

2169
01:51:44,600 --> 01:51:48,640
Speaker 5: Kansas State, thirty to twenty seven victories for Oklahoma, for

2170
01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:52,840
Speaker 5: North Carolina and Duke Iowa with a win Washington State

2171
01:51:52,880 --> 01:51:58,320
Speaker 5: and UCLA each one. UCLA playing in HBCU again this year,

2172
01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:02,400
Speaker 5: where they again not only paid the I think it

2173
01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:05,040
Speaker 5: was seven hundred thousand for the visiting team to come.

2174
01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:09,640
Speaker 5: That included payment for the HBCU band to come and

2175
01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:13,639
Speaker 5: play at the Rose Bowl. At halftime, Ucla led today

2176
01:52:13,680 --> 01:52:15,920
Speaker 5: thirty five nothing in the first quarter, by the way,

2177
01:52:15,960 --> 01:52:20,360
Speaker 5: and beat North Carolina Central fifty nine to seven. Ucla

2178
01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:23,160
Speaker 5: with over four hundred yards just rushing in the game.

2179
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:26,280
Speaker 5: LA Dodgers clinched the NLS for the tenth time in

2180
01:52:26,320 --> 01:52:28,840
Speaker 5: the last eleven years. They won in eleven innings at

2181
01:52:28,880 --> 01:52:31,960
Speaker 5: Seattle tonight six. Two Mariners were tied for the final

2182
01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:35,799
Speaker 5: AL wild card spot with Toronto. Toronto won in thirteen innings.

2183
01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:39,360
Speaker 5: Arizona won in thirteen innings. Baltimore shut out Tampa Bay

2184
01:52:39,439 --> 01:52:41,840
Speaker 5: eight nothing. Those two were tied for first in the

2185
01:52:41,880 --> 01:52:45,639
Speaker 5: AL East. Colorado swept the Giants in a doubleheader. Wins

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01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:48,639
Speaker 5: for the Reds, Phillies and for first place Milwaukee. They're

2187
01:52:48,720 --> 01:52:51,120
Speaker 5: leading the NF Centrals now six and a half over

2188
01:52:51,160 --> 01:52:54,439
Speaker 5: the Cubs. With just a couple weeks left, Chargers running

2189
01:52:54,439 --> 01:52:57,080
Speaker 5: back Austin Eckler is out tomorrow with a spring ankle.

2190
01:52:57,280 --> 01:53:00,559
Speaker 5: Jets kicker Greg Zerline out with a groin injury. Browns

2191
01:53:00,560 --> 01:53:04,000
Speaker 5: wide receiver Amari Cooper aggravated a growing injury today. He's

2192
01:53:04,120 --> 01:53:07,960
Speaker 5: questionable for Monday. And the update from college football, Colorado

2193
01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:10,880
Speaker 5: State has just putting it away. They lead twenty eight

2194
01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:11,599
Speaker 5: to twenty at.

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01:53:11,520 --> 01:53:14,040
Speaker 2: Eighteen, Colorado, they put it to the two.

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01:53:14,439 --> 01:53:17,280
Speaker 5: It rolled out of bounds at the two. That's where

2197
01:53:17,320 --> 01:53:20,040
Speaker 5: the Buffalo's down eight. We'll have to start this drive

2198
01:53:20,120 --> 01:53:23,320
Speaker 5: with two to oh six to go. Have we mentioned

2199
01:53:23,320 --> 01:53:26,519
Speaker 5: that Colorado's next two games are at Oregon and against

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01:53:26,680 --> 01:53:28,720
Speaker 5: usc Back to you, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Very much, Steve Disager, have a great evening. Fox Sports

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01:53:32,040 --> 01:53:35,000
Speaker 2: Radio h Ertors Jason Martin. Ticket to the top of

2203
01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:38,720
Speaker 2: the hour. As the Sager said, Colorado down twenty eight

2204
01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:41,880
Speaker 2: to twenty, just over two minutes to go, they will

2205
01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:44,120
Speaker 2: essentially have to go the length of the field and

2206
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:47,280
Speaker 2: then convert a two point conversion to tie this game.

2207
01:53:47,680 --> 01:53:50,160
Speaker 2: We'll come back, get you the end of this game.

2208
01:53:50,439 --> 01:53:52,280
Speaker 2: Get you to Bernie Frida at the top of the hour.

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Speaker 2: That's next, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 7: Sixty one yard attempt from here Harrison Navis just to

2211
01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:03,320
Speaker 7: the right of the left hash I'll hold a Luke

2212
01:54:03,360 --> 01:54:05,680
Speaker 7: Bower with three seconds to play in regulation, tied at

2213
01:54:05,720 --> 01:54:09,639
Speaker 7: twenty seven. Good snap, good place kick is up.

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01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:13,559
Speaker 1: It is.

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01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:18,560
Speaker 3: Twitter from sixty one Harrison Leavis.

2216
01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:24,559
Speaker 2: That was the sixty one yard walk off field goal,

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01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:27,439
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Speaker 2: from lear Field. I'll tell you what, Jason, oh boy,

2223
01:54:42,880 --> 01:54:46,120
Speaker 2: that never has a Progressive play of the day been

2224
01:54:46,240 --> 01:54:50,800
Speaker 2: as quickly outdated with respect to MEVS and Mike Kelly

2225
01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:55,120
Speaker 2: on Learfield. That is because we went to break Colorado

2226
01:54:55,480 --> 01:54:59,240
Speaker 2: was down eight. Had you drive the ball ninety eight

2227
01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:03,720
Speaker 2: yards in two minutes? Well, then in eighty two minutes

2228
01:55:04,520 --> 01:55:08,200
Speaker 2: the tie. They have scored and tied the game on

2229
01:55:08,280 --> 01:55:11,360
Speaker 2: a two point conversion. They were trailing twenty eight to

2230
01:55:11,480 --> 01:55:14,879
Speaker 2: twenty with two minutes left length of the field. Shador

2231
01:55:15,040 --> 01:55:19,080
Speaker 2: Sanders throws a touchdown pass a two point conversion. We

2232
01:55:19,120 --> 01:55:23,680
Speaker 2: are tied at twenty eight with thirty six seconds left

2233
01:55:23,840 --> 01:55:29,080
Speaker 2: in Boulder. Jason, what a game? What a game we

2234
01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:29,840
Speaker 2: got in Bolder?

2235
01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:33,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, this has been really fun and this

2236
01:55:33,200 --> 01:55:35,960
Speaker 1: is the perfect way for this to go. And I

2237
01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:39,959
Speaker 1: think at this point, if you are ESPN, ABC, anybody

2238
01:55:40,000 --> 01:55:42,600
Speaker 1: watching college football because of the potential matchup or the

2239
01:55:42,880 --> 01:55:47,560
Speaker 1: guarantee matchup next week with Oregon, now you've gotten exactly

2240
01:55:47,600 --> 01:55:50,240
Speaker 1: what you want. Colorado State has made this super interesting.

2241
01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:52,960
Speaker 1: Had it won. Now you kind of want Colorado to

2242
01:55:52,960 --> 01:55:57,000
Speaker 1: stay undefeated from a television perspective, is all I'm saying. Zero, Yes,

2243
01:55:57,280 --> 01:56:01,080
Speaker 1: but I think that this is proven a few things.

2244
01:56:02,480 --> 01:56:06,240
Speaker 1: Colorado State, they were an afterthought and then it was

2245
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:08,080
Speaker 1: how much are they going to get beaten by? Because

2246
01:56:08,080 --> 01:56:11,120
Speaker 1: of Norvelle's comments. We talked off the top of the

2247
01:56:11,160 --> 01:56:13,320
Speaker 1: show about how this was basically their super Bowl. They're

2248
01:56:13,320 --> 01:56:15,400
Speaker 1: not going to play a more important game than the

2249
01:56:15,480 --> 01:56:19,400
Speaker 1: end state rivalry against Dion Sanders this year. Obviously, it's

2250
01:56:19,440 --> 01:56:22,560
Speaker 1: become more entertaining because the comments and the back and

2251
01:56:22,600 --> 01:56:24,440
Speaker 1: forth and all that, and it's been hippy, and you've

2252
01:56:24,440 --> 01:56:26,200
Speaker 1: had a late hit on Travis Hunter and you hope

2253
01:56:26,280 --> 01:56:29,240
Speaker 1: he's okay, and you know, all these things are happening.

2254
01:56:30,560 --> 01:56:34,520
Speaker 1: The pressure has been all on Colorado. They've got the

2255
01:56:34,640 --> 01:56:38,440
Speaker 1: rock on the sidelines, they've got offset on the sidelines,

2256
01:56:39,040 --> 01:56:43,520
Speaker 1: they've got all these starts. Yeah, it feels like usc yeah,

2257
01:56:43,560 --> 01:56:46,840
Speaker 1: like ten years, like twenty years ago, and so they

2258
01:56:46,840 --> 01:56:49,440
Speaker 1: had all the pressure on them. All Colorado State had

2259
01:56:49,480 --> 01:56:51,680
Speaker 1: to do was just show up and play. And they're

2260
01:56:51,720 --> 01:56:53,840
Speaker 1: already playing with their hair on fire because they want

2261
01:56:53,840 --> 01:56:56,880
Speaker 1: to win this game so badly because it's important, and

2262
01:56:56,920 --> 01:56:59,200
Speaker 1: everybody's just waiting to see them get beat by one hundred.

2263
01:56:59,240 --> 01:57:03,280
Speaker 1: Well that's not going to happen. However, now that Colorado

2264
01:57:03,360 --> 01:57:06,600
Speaker 1: has tied this football game, the pressure now has shifted.

2265
01:57:07,200 --> 01:57:10,640
Speaker 1: Everything has shifted onto Colorado State at this point in time.

2266
01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:14,240
Speaker 1: The storyline of this game and the momentum and the

2267
01:57:14,280 --> 01:57:18,160
Speaker 1: feel and everything for about fifty nine minutes and twenty

2268
01:57:18,200 --> 01:57:20,720
Speaker 1: eight seconds was one thing, and now it's flipped. Going

2269
01:57:20,760 --> 01:57:23,280
Speaker 1: into overtime, this is gonna be a real hard game

2270
01:57:23,320 --> 01:57:24,800
Speaker 1: for Colorado State to win.

2271
01:57:24,960 --> 01:57:28,920
Speaker 2: Yes, twenty eight seconds left, Colorado State does have the ball.

2272
01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:32,760
Speaker 2: It'll be third and six as they try to get

2273
01:57:32,760 --> 01:57:35,160
Speaker 2: in field goal range. The other thing this proves to me, Jason,

2274
01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:38,760
Speaker 2: is the Colorado story has been incredible. But even in

2275
01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:41,520
Speaker 2: the Nebraska game last week, you kind of saw like

2276
01:57:42,320 --> 01:57:44,840
Speaker 2: they have some pretty gaping holes, which, by the way,

2277
01:57:45,200 --> 01:57:47,480
Speaker 2: they were one and eleven. Last year they were terrible,

2278
01:57:47,560 --> 01:57:49,800
Speaker 2: So it's not as though like they needed to be

2279
01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:52,720
Speaker 2: a national championship team this year. But after winning last week,

2280
01:57:52,720 --> 01:57:55,120
Speaker 2: it started to become what is the ceiling? How many wins?

2281
01:57:55,160 --> 01:57:56,800
Speaker 2: Can they win? The Pac twelve? Can they do this?

2282
01:57:56,840 --> 01:58:01,640
Speaker 2: Can they do that? I think has has squeezed every

2283
01:58:01,680 --> 01:58:04,480
Speaker 2: ounce of talent out of this team the first two weeks.

2284
01:58:04,520 --> 01:58:07,000
Speaker 2: And you know, if Colorado State is able to get

2285
01:58:07,040 --> 01:58:10,320
Speaker 2: after Dion Dion excuse me, Shador Sanders the quarterback, the

2286
01:58:10,360 --> 01:58:14,520
Speaker 2: way that they have, they're they're not running a gauntlet

2287
01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:19,120
Speaker 2: that includes USC Oregon next week. Oregon State's really good,

2288
01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:23,640
Speaker 2: Washington State is really good, Ucla Utah to end the year.

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01:58:24,840 --> 01:58:27,440
Speaker 1: It's already a success, but it's also a big time

2290
01:58:27,480 --> 01:58:29,840
Speaker 1: work in progress. And that's I think that's what it

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01:58:29,920 --> 01:58:32,000
Speaker 1: is is now, and that's what you're saying is just

2292
01:58:32,720 --> 01:58:34,920
Speaker 1: there's a bit of a reality check here that you're

2293
01:58:34,960 --> 01:58:37,840
Speaker 1: not going from worse to first. But it's already been

2294
01:58:37,880 --> 01:58:38,600
Speaker 1: a success.

2295
01:58:38,680 --> 01:58:41,320
Speaker 2: Yes, I think the goal is get get to a

2296
01:58:41,360 --> 01:58:44,920
Speaker 2: bowl game. Get to a bowl game, get all those

2297
01:58:44,960 --> 01:58:47,680
Speaker 2: extra practices, get in the transfer portal, get yourself some

2298
01:58:47,800 --> 01:58:50,400
Speaker 2: offensive lineman. All right, Jason really quick, let's just rip

2299
01:58:50,440 --> 01:58:53,200
Speaker 2: through some of these games. On Sunday, we talked about

2300
01:58:53,200 --> 01:58:56,040
Speaker 2: it with Bernie Lions hosting the Seattle Seahawks, Lions a

2301
01:58:56,120 --> 01:58:58,280
Speaker 2: four and a half point favorite, a couple extra days

2302
01:58:58,280 --> 01:59:00,880
Speaker 2: after playing CAC Do you think the Lions approved to two?

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01:59:00,880 --> 01:59:04,080
Speaker 1: And all? I do, although it's a little bit wary.

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01:59:03,520 --> 01:59:06,600
Speaker 1: It is a west to east travel, which is always

2305
01:59:06,680 --> 01:59:09,080
Speaker 1: kind of treacherous for that team coming from the West coast.

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01:59:09,120 --> 01:59:12,840
Speaker 1: But the Seahawks look so kind of disjointed and not

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01:59:13,120 --> 01:59:16,640
Speaker 1: good last week that you kind of think maybe they're

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01:59:16,640 --> 01:59:19,120
Speaker 1: gonna show up in a completely different mindset. And of

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01:59:19,120 --> 01:59:21,440
Speaker 1: course the Lions are coming off a close win, but

2310
01:59:21,480 --> 01:59:23,840
Speaker 1: a big win over Kansas City. But I also think

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01:59:23,880 --> 01:59:25,400
Speaker 1: the Lions are for real and this is the kind

2312
01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:27,800
Speaker 1: of game. If you're for real, you win, and so

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01:59:27,920 --> 01:59:29,560
Speaker 1: I believe the Lions will.

2314
01:59:29,480 --> 01:59:32,000
Speaker 2: The other under that Thursday game, the Chiefs facing the

2315
01:59:32,080 --> 01:59:36,560
Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars. Chiefs a three point road favorite in Jacksonville.

2316
01:59:36,840 --> 01:59:38,280
Speaker 2: Do they improve to one to one?

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01:59:38,720 --> 01:59:40,960
Speaker 1: That's just gonna be a great football game. It should

2318
01:59:41,040 --> 01:59:43,720
Speaker 1: be could be a playoff, you know, a playoff preview

2319
01:59:43,760 --> 01:59:46,400
Speaker 1: kind of football game. I feel like Kansas City is

2320
01:59:46,440 --> 01:59:49,040
Speaker 1: not going oh and two? You bring back Kelsey and

2321
01:59:49,160 --> 01:59:52,040
Speaker 1: Chris Jones. I think that's gonna be a big ask,

2322
01:59:52,120 --> 01:59:55,560
Speaker 1: even at home for the Jaguars. Calvin Ridley look fantastic,

2323
01:59:55,600 --> 01:59:57,680
Speaker 1: by the way, and I don't think that's gonna change.

2324
01:59:57,880 --> 02:00:00,200
Speaker 1: And he and Lawrence are totally in sync. And I

2325
02:00:00,200 --> 02:00:02,040
Speaker 1: think this is going to be one where the Chiefs

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02:00:02,080 --> 02:00:03,040
Speaker 1: show out on the road.

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02:00:03,160 --> 02:00:06,520
Speaker 2: Speaking of oh and to Bengals playing the Baltimore Ravens.

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02:00:06,560 --> 02:00:10,280
Speaker 2: Cincinnati obviously lost their opener to the Cleveland Browns. Do

2329
02:00:10,320 --> 02:00:12,240
Speaker 2: they fall to oh and two? Really quick? Jason, what

2330
02:00:12,280 --> 02:00:12,680
Speaker 2: do you got?

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Speaker 1: I got the Bengals winning it, even though Burrow has

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Speaker 1: a bad record against them.

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Speaker 2: All Right, we got to get out of here. I

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Speaker 2: want to thank the crew, Lorena on the board, producer

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Speaker 2: Pat Steve Disager from my partner Jason Martin, I'm eron Taurus.

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Speaker 2: Seven seconds left in this Colorado Colorado State game. Bertie

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Speaker 2: Fraddle will get you updated on what happens if this

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Speaker 2: goes final. Make sure to download the podcast Fun Show Tonight. Jason,

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Speaker 2: appreciate you, appreciate the team. This is Fox Sports Radio