1 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Hello, my love. First of all, I want to apologize 2 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: for my voice being way it is. My sweet little 3 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: Ocean is sick and she handed it down to me, 4 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: so is the voice. Is my voice annoying? 5 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: Right now? 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 3: I don't think it's annoying. I think it's kind of cool. 7 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 3: It's like the Miley cyrus esque voice. Oh yeah, like 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 3: the rasp I love when I'm sick because of that, 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 3: because I have such like a screechy, high pitched voice 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 3: that when I'm sick, I feel so cool. 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 4: Kind of brings it down. 12 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: All yeah, I love that. So today I'm really excited 13 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: because it's a voicemail kind of podcast day. 14 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 4: M hmm. 15 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: I was like this voice. I canceled our guest because 16 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: I just this voice is fucking with me. Yeah, and 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: I feel like it is, and I feel like I'm 18 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: in my head and if I have a guest on, 19 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to be present with what you're saying. 20 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: All I can really think about right now is the 21 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: fact that like it's taking a lot out of me 22 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: to like even. 23 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we have a lot of great voicemails too. 24 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 3: We need to catch up people still mentioning like the 25 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 3: dating app stuff that you talked about people asking about 26 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 3: your life lately, people asking about your dating life. We've 27 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 3: got a ton, yeah, so it's. 28 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: Gonna be a ton. 29 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 30 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: I went to my trainer slash dear friend's birthday yesterday. 31 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 3: So fun. How was it? 32 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: It was so much fun? You know me, Jess, I like, 33 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: rarely do anything. 34 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 3: You never go out, Like I saw it on her 35 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 3: stories this past weekend, guys that La La is out 36 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 3: and I knew she had a birthday party to go to, 37 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 3: which she was like, I don't know if i'll I'll 38 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 3: be feeling up to going. And then I walked in 39 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 3: and I was like, you went to the birthday party. 40 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: I was so excited for you. 41 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: Everyone knows that if I commit to something, there's a 42 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: ninety eight percent chance that I will cancel, okay, because 43 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm a homebody. And then you know, I 44 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: don't like leaving ocean. It's just mom guilt is real, 45 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: And I think that's actually a question that I want 46 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: to ask when for my mommy's out there, When after 47 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: you guys had a baby, did you have mom guilt? 48 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: And if so, when did it ease up? Because I 49 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: know my mom. I was like two. 50 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 4: Weeks old, and she like took off. 51 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: I love, and I'll say, like, yesterday, I was like 52 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: because I went to the birthday and I didn't know 53 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: how long I would be gone because it was in Malibuka, 54 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: and my mom was like, she's not gonna remember. 55 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: No. 56 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: She's like, do you remember me leaving you? I said no, 57 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 1: not at all, and like the amount of love I 58 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: have for my mom, I'm. 59 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 3: Like, all right, it's fine, We'll be fine. So the 60 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 3: birthday was fun, would you guys. 61 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: Do We went to winery okay, and then we went 62 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: to a Greek restaurant. It was fantastic, I'll say though, 63 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: and I hope that they don't get mad at me 64 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: for this winer eight. So we're sitting there and it's 65 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: before we go on the. 66 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 3: Tour and the wine tour okay. 67 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: The tour guide was talking. I don't know how it 68 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: got brought up, but someone said something about a giraffe 69 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: and I, you know, this is my first time going in. 70 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: My ears kind of perked up and I said, what's 71 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: the reason for the animals? 72 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:28,119 Speaker 3: Yeah? 73 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: And she goes just because why not? And I go 74 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: because I don't think giraffes belong in that's why not. Yeah, 75 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: and she goes, well, we don't have him anymore. He's 76 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: in Texas, so me, I hopefully he's happier there. And 77 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: I go, mmmm, I don't think Texas. 78 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 4: Is where giraffe should be either. 79 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm sorry, I'm an animal activist, so yeah, 80 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: I don't mean to put you on this spot. It 81 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: was very uncomfortable. I'm bolted. I'm shocked. 82 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: This is obviously the first time I'm hearing about it. 83 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: That was the wrong person to say that in. 84 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 4: Front of the bolted. 85 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: But there was a guy there, my friend's husband who's 86 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: from South Africa, and he was like, I agree with you. 87 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: M like, I agree with what you're saying. I just 88 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: don't think she was prepared to answer that. I was like, right, 89 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: we live in Los Angeles. You should definitely be prepared 90 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: for someone to ask you what's the reasoning. 91 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 3: And also, uh oh, let's give you the benefit of 92 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 3: the dough and assume you think that drabs exist in Texas. Naturally, 93 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 3: we're just gonna let you know they don't know. 94 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: And but but she did say and by the way, 95 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: this tour guide had nothing to do with you know, 96 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: she just worked there yeah, it's not responsible for right 97 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: what animals are on the property, right. She said they 98 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: don't have anything now except for like Lama's alpacas donkeys. 99 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, that's that's fine. Yeah, I'll fine. 100 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 3: So you, I know we've talked about this before a little, 101 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 3: but is it annoying being on a wine tour and 102 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 3: you don't drink or were you like, no, this is great. 103 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: It's just so a part of my life now. Yeah. 104 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: Like and there was another girl there who she's not sober, 105 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: but she doesn't drink, okay. And then there was another 106 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 1: girl who showed up to dinner. She had been in 107 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: the she's been in the program for a decade. 108 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 3: Oh wow. 109 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: So just at this point, Jess, it's just like I 110 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: show up places and it's it's not even a thing. 111 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 3: It's not a thing, like you could still have fun. 112 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 3: It wasn't like, yan, I'm on this wine tour, I'm bored. 113 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: I need to go do something else. No, oh that's good. 114 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: I got a cup and they had like pellegrino. Yeah yeah, 115 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: and I was drinking cambucha and then someone went to 116 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: hand it to me. Yeah. After I had been drinking 117 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: it and you know, I needed a lot of help 118 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: getting up and down the off the jeep because it 119 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 1: was a big drop. Now boobs are newly done. Oh yes, yes, yes, okay. 120 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: So someone was holding my drink and then they handed 121 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: it back to me and said, here's your apples side 122 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: vinegar water, and I was like, I don't want it anymore. 123 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 3: That's actually exactly that's what it is. That is do 124 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 3: you like I call it kombucha. You call it kambucha. 125 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 3: That's I don't know what it's called. Do you like it? 126 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: I hate it? 127 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 3: Love it? I love it. I could drink it every day. 128 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: But you know, when you're out and about, like doing 129 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: things like a wine tour, you're like sure, Like, can 130 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: I tell you every time we stopped at a new 131 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: little area on the winery and they would try new wines, 132 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: I would drink something different. Oh I like that. Yeah. 133 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 1: So like at one stop I had. 134 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 4: Like regular pellegrina. Yeah, next it was like. 135 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: The sand Pellegrino grape. 136 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 3: You know what that makes me think wine tours should 137 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 3: offer just a non alcoholic version of like very interesting whatever. 138 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: If it's grape juice, these are the grapes from this region. 139 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 3: I think that would be really cool. 140 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: No, I think it would be too, because people not 141 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 1: drinking is becoming like a big thing because people like 142 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: have problems. I think people are just becoming aware of like, 143 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: this isn't good for me, right, so I'm not going 144 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: to partake in it. 145 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 3: Well it's not enjoy But like Kyle doesn't drink, and 146 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 3: he's not he never had a problem, he's not. He 147 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 3: doesn't call himself sober, but he just doesn't drink. He's like, 148 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 3: why even if I'm saying, Okay, I guess I'll have one, 149 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 3: He's like, I feel like shit, yeah, Like what's the point? 150 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 3: What's the point? Yeah? 151 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: You know what though, hmm. The only time and I 152 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: don't feel triggered to drink, it's just when I go, oh, 153 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: I remember, and that that was fun. This moment. I 154 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,559 Speaker 1: remember when I used to be a drinker. This moment 155 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: was fun the very first drink because everyone's still normal. Yeah, 156 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: but then they start feeling warm and you notice like 157 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: their personalities get a little like. 158 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 3: Get a little more giddy, and they're loosening up. 159 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. And then you get to the end of it 160 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: and everyone looks like fucked up, And I'm like, and 161 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: this is where I this was not the fun part. 162 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is. And that's I heard. I think 163 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: I saw this on Flight Attendant, that show about the 164 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: pink cloud, because I've heard you talk about it, but 165 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 3: I guess I didn't really know what it was. 166 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: We talk about the pink cloud on. 167 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, because that character is spoiler alert. It's not really 168 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 3: spoiler you kind of know. But she is sober this season. Okay, 169 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: so she goes to AA and she talks about and 170 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 3: I think they talk about it where they say something 171 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: about like, oh, you're on the pink cloud. Eventually you're 172 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 3: gonna feel comfortable enough to say I've mastered this, I've 173 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 3: got it. Yeah, and you're gonna have one drink and 174 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 3: then you're gonna forget it from there. You're not you 175 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 3: can't just have one drink. And it's called the pink cloud. 176 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, that's that's interesting. I'm sure 177 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 3: people get to that, like, oh my god, I'm fine, 178 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 3: I've mastered it. I can have a drink. 179 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: Well, when you first venture into sobriety, yeah, you do 180 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: sit on a pink cloud. It's like this is amazing. 181 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: I feel so great. But then as time goes on 182 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: and you see, you forget why you chose sobriety, and 183 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: you're like, I don't have a problem. Look how long 184 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: I've gone without a drink, Like I can have one, 185 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: And then before you know it, your shit faced daily 186 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: and you find yourself back in a meeting with twenty 187 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: four hours under your belt, and it's just like, yeah, 188 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: worth it. Yeah, I feel like I'm still on the 189 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: pink cloud a little bit, you do. 190 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 5: Well. 191 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: My sponsor tells me that I'm not on the pink 192 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: cloud anymore, because the pink cloud doesn't last three and 193 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: a half and some change. Yeah. Years, Maybe it does, though, 194 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: who knows. Yeah, but I love my sobriety. 195 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 3: Maybe you feel like you're on it because you keep it. 196 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 3: Maybe the reason changes, like at first you did it. 197 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 3: You did it before you got pregnant, so I bet 198 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 3: the reason then was different, and now your reason is 199 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 3: probably at the very least ocean is added to that, 200 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 3: you know, So maybe it changes as like you keep 201 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 3: refreshing the reason for why you're staying sober, and it 202 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 3: makes you, I don't know, filled with like some sort 203 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 3: of like this is why I'm doing it? 204 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: You know? Can I tell you? 205 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 4: Though? 206 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: Every time I think about drinking, not me like picking up. 207 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: But when the thought of like just drinks, right, yeah, 208 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: I always go into this state of like, oh the 209 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: part where you wake up the next day. Just the 210 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: thought of that is enough to keep me somewhere for 211 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: the rest of my life. 212 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 6: Yeah. 213 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, so depressing. 214 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 3: Depressing and also like I look back at when I 215 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 3: was heavily drinking in college, my face so swollen, like 216 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 3: I was like what, And I would work out religiously, 217 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 3: like to an unhealthy point. I don't even work out 218 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 3: as close to that much anymore, and I love it. 219 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,239 Speaker 3: I just feel better. But I would work out religiously, 220 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 3: eat healthy, and I still had that. I always looked puffy. 221 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: Same wild and my eyes were always glazed over. Yeah weird, 222 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:50,599 Speaker 1: gross all right, now that we ventured into sobriety, that 223 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: took a weird turn, I know, but it was just 224 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: always goes back into sobriety. It does when I talk 225 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: about going anywhere. 226 00:10:58,679 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's just interesting. 227 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: I asked you that. 228 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 3: It's just interesting because you know, I see me and 229 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't think I could go on a 230 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 3: wine tour and not drink. 231 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: I'd be bored. So then I you you're normy. You 232 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 1: should go on a wine tour and drink and drink. 233 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 3: Yes, what you're supposed to do. Yeah, but it's just 234 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 3: nice that like you can go and not be bored. 235 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: Well, the thing is is it was so beautiful. The 236 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: grounds were so gorgeous that it's like I don't need 237 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: to it's so pretty as is like I'm not here 238 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: for the alcohol. I'm here for the fucking scenery. It's stunning, 239 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: and for the friends and like, oh, the company was fantastic. Yeah, 240 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: I so needed that energy. 241 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 3: Was it all women? Because I saw a lot of women, 242 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 3: but you said. 243 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: There was a guy, a lot of chicks, okay, And 244 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: then Jenna brought her boyfriend, Ansley, who's so sweet, and 245 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 1: then there were I think three other dudes who were 246 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: partners of her friends, who were also so sweet. And 247 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: one of the guys he was like, I think we 248 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: should go around and say what we love about Jenna, 249 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: and I was like, this is just such a good 250 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: group of people. 251 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great. 252 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: I had one of the most amazing times that I've 253 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: had in a very long time. 254 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 3: I love that for you because you and I are 255 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 3: the same. And where like if I get invited somewhere 256 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 3: or there's like a birthday party or I know that 257 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 3: there's like I've pushed off this, like go to get 258 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: drinks with a friend for weeks and I'm like, I 259 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 3: have to go. I'm always I mean, this is just 260 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 3: gonna be honest, the introverted me, I'm not looking forward 261 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 3: to it. Okay, that's just how it is, because it 262 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 3: takes a lot of energy out of me. And ninety 263 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 3: nine percent of the time, I'm so glad I went. 264 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 3: And I feel like, you know, like I go and 265 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 3: I'm not looking forward to it. And then I like 266 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 3: talk to a friend or I hang out with people 267 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, yeah, this isn't so bad. 268 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: You know, yes, and you're so happy that you went. 269 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 3: Yes, And so I'm really glad you went. I think 270 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 3: that's great. 271 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and everyone it was so and I like people 272 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: who drink adult like mm hmm. So, like we went 273 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: to the winery, they all were, you know, participating in 274 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: the drinking of the wine. By the time we got 275 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: to dinner, everyone's eyes were you know, everyone was like 276 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: sobering up. But it was like we've been drinking and 277 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: everyone was drinking like hot mint tea at and the 278 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: guy the waiter is like, it's a birthday. Does anyone 279 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: want a cocktail? Everyone's like no, No. I was like, 280 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: this is my vibe. 281 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 3: That's yes. You know, adult drinkers are very different from 282 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 3: you know, the all day drinkers, and it's nice. 283 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: It is nice. I wouldn't know anything about that. We 284 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: will take a short break and we gaped it. When 285 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: we come back. I've got your voicemails are back, Jess. 286 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: Can you play me a voicemail please? Yes. 287 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 5: My name is Taylor. I love your podcast. I just 288 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 5: try question for you about the guss find. We have 289 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 5: not seen them or heard from them in a while, 290 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 5: and I just wanted to sow when you were going 291 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 5: to have them back. They are wonderful and are always 292 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 5: put the fun and I just said that you just 293 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 5: revamped your podcast to a newer, better podcast, and I 294 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 5: just think that is the fun episode and I look 295 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 5: forward to potentially possibly hearing them have a great day byebye. 296 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: That one makes me sad. One of my gusbands got 297 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: a new job, which was great, and then it just 298 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened, but he just decided that 299 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: my other gusband was not who he wanted in his 300 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: life right now. Okay, very weird. 301 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 4: I don't like it. 302 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: But they're not talking right now, and it's very strange, 303 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: and I want to shake the one guysband and be like, 304 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: what a are you doing? 305 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 306 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: I don't see them being on the podcast together anytime soon. 307 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 4: I mean, they haven't even spoken. 308 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 3: Maybe they can hash it out on the podcast. Maybe 309 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: we can trick them and have them both over. 310 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: I think at this point in time that would not 311 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,359 Speaker 1: be a good call because I'm on my one gusband's 312 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: side and I have a real issue with the gusband 313 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: who got a new job and went into some weird 314 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: fucking spiral of what he wants his life to look like. 315 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 3: Here's my question, not knowing, I really don't know a 316 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 3: lot about this. You guys are really anything at all? 317 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 3: But is do you think it's just a phase like 318 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 3: people go through phases. 319 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: I do think it's a phase, okay, but when you're 320 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: a grown ass person mm hm, this type of phase, 321 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: I don't have time for it right It's weird. 322 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 3: And you don't think right now like he's probably wouldn't 323 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 3: even be open to hearing anyone. 324 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: I'm just guessing no, And honestly, if you were to 325 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: listen to this, he would probably call me and be like, 326 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: I didn't know you felt that way, because I just 327 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: I know if I were to text him right now, 328 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: I would not be kind. Mmm, I would not be 329 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: kind at all. Yeah. I love them both. And just 330 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: like my one gusband said, when he snaps out of 331 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: it and he comes back around, who's gonna be there 332 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: to like pick him up? Right? The two of us will. 333 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: And that's very true. 334 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 3: So there's the update on the gusbands, not as positive 335 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 3: but as. 336 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: Maybe you all makes me so sad. 337 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 3: But I truly think because I've seen obviously the gusbands together, 338 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 3: I've seen Lalla and the gusbands together, they're like, to me, unbreakable. 339 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 3: So it's not like it's the end of an era. 340 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: I hope. Not because I told him, I said, I 341 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: don't know what's going on, but I feel like my 342 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: parents are getting divorced. Yeah, like, you guys got to 343 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: figure it out. 344 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 3: It's just a thing. It's just a face, I hope. 345 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: So I think he's lost his spark. 346 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't want that. 347 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll be here. I'm very forgiving. 348 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 3: Lala will be here. The other gusband will be here. 349 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: Okay, what's my next one? 350 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 3: Next one? 351 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: Hey, I was just listening to your most recent podcast. 352 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 2: And this isn't a question but a recommendation for Lalla 353 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 2: and Ocean. There is a place called the Gentle Barn 354 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 2: about thirty to forty minutes north of La and Samaquarita 355 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 2: that I highly recommend you guys going to. You can 356 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 2: take the baby. It is the sweetest place where they 357 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 2: rescue animals from the food industry. They have cows that 358 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: you can hug, and pets and pigs and chickens. It's 359 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 2: just like the most sweetest place and it's not too 360 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 2: much money, and it's for such an amazing cause. So 361 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: and there's also a place quote Farm Sanctuary, but the 362 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: Gentle Barn is the most sweetest place. I highly recommend it. 363 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 2: My name is Stephanie and love listening to you guys. 364 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:51,959 Speaker 1: I want to go to the Gentle Barn. 365 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 3: They rescue them from the food industry. I love that 366 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 3: in Ocean would be BESI herself do anything. 367 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: She would love it. Can I tell you something? So 368 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: because we talked about the giraffe being in Malibu or whatever, 369 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: and I say I'm an animal activist. Yeah, I don't 370 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: love meat. It just I've just never really loved meat. 371 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 1: But I'm not a vegan or a vegetarian. Like there 372 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: are moments where I definitely have eaten meat, do eat meat. 373 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: I really want to not eat meat right now. It's 374 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: just a part of like it's like, oh, that looks good, 375 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: I'll eat it, right I don't want to do that anymore, 376 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: right you want to? 377 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 3: That's a really great goal, And what I've heard is 378 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 3: a small step you can make if you don't want 379 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 3: to or can't for some health reasons or whatever, become 380 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 3: a vegetarian or a vegan. I do know that if 381 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 3: you buy again, this is a not a luxury but 382 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 3: a privilege because it's usually a little more expensive. But 383 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 3: if you buy, if you are in the space in 384 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 3: your life to buy like grass fed cow, which they 385 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 3: sell it like normal grocery stores, but grass fed or 386 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 3: organic beef, or for the chickens, pasture raised eggs, because 387 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 3: I've heard that cage free is basically like just the 388 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 3: same as normal. Pasture raised is the key words you're 389 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 3: looking for, and that's like they actually let the chickens 390 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 3: out legally. They have to run around in a grass 391 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 3: area and then like you know, free range, grass fed 392 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 3: beef and stuff. Again, I know a lot of vegetarians 393 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 3: and vegans will be like, you should just give it up. 394 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 3: It's not that hard. But if you're trying to make 395 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 3: a small step, id I have heard that's I try 396 00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 3: and do that because. 397 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: It's just like, don't even enjoy even enjoy it. It's 398 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: just when you go and order things for some reason, 399 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: it's just like we're we're programmed to just like eat meat, 400 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: Like here's a chicken taco, here's a beef taco. Like 401 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: we weren't. We didn't come into this world and have 402 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: it where you roll up in a restaurant and it's 403 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: like veggie taco. That's definitely a part of the menu now, right. 404 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: But like the other night I went to a Mexican 405 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: food joint and I got, oh my god, it was 406 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: so good. Yes, what was it? It was a mushroom 407 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: taco and it was so bombed. 408 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 3: I bet you're to be like, I got a chicken 409 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 3: taco and. 410 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: It was so mushroom taco. 411 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 412 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: Please call Candela on Libreak. And they have corn tacos. 413 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:47,959 Speaker 3: Corn tacos. 414 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, just corn taco Wednesdays, yum. Oh my god, mushroom taco. 415 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 3: You can do a lot with mushroom and Jackfrew, I 416 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 3: love a black bean and rice taco. 417 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: See. So so it's just getting myself to just go 418 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: that direction and just switch the way that I've been 419 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: programmed because I don't fucking enjoy meat that much. And 420 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: then when I go into all of this stuff about 421 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: like how he cares so much about certain like all 422 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: these animals. But then it's like I look at a 423 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: count and I'm like, I love that cow and I've 424 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: eaten one of them. Yeah, that makes me sick stomach. 425 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 3: And perpetuating the the yeah, I know she Jamie Lynn 426 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 3: talked about it, but perpetuating like the industry where kows 427 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 3: are just basically shoved it next to each other and 428 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 3: can't move. 429 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it makes me sick to I have 430 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: to make a change. 431 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, But there are like you know, and I've heard 432 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 3: like I've heard again, don't know this for a fact, 433 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 3: Eating too much like tofu and soy is also not 434 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 3: good for you. But there's so many hours in moderation. 435 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 6: Right. 436 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: I think a kid died from drinking too much water, 437 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: like years ago. 438 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 3: You could drown from drinking too much literally right. 439 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: It was like a yeah, is it an initiation for 440 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: like a f oh what it is? Yes, initially they 441 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: had to they had him drink a certain amount of 442 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: water and he like literally died because. 443 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 3: Well that's hazing, hazy. Yes, you can drink too much water. 444 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 3: You can drown in in a centimeter of water. And 445 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 3: they mean that by you can over hydration. I used 446 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 3: to see it in school sports all the time, such 447 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 3: a real thing. People pass out they're overhydrated because they 448 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 3: know they have I saw it in track a lot. 449 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 3: I would watch the track meets in my school and 450 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: we had this one girl who had to go to 451 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 3: the hospital and was like in really bad condition, was 452 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 3: there for three days because she was over hydrated. Yeah, 453 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 3: so everything in moderation, I get it, But there are 454 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 3: how did we get on? Oh the farm? The farm there, 455 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 3: it is the Gentle Barn and it's an in Santa Clarita. 456 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: Going, I love that taking ocean immediately, what's the next voicemail? 457 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 6: Okay, hi Lave, my name is me and I'm from Massachusetts. First, 458 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 6: I love your podcast. I've been binge listening if that's 459 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 6: the thing for the last few weeks, and I'm filing 460 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 6: up to date. We had babies around the same time, 461 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 6: so I'm digging all the baby talk. It's so nice 462 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 6: to hear a different side of you on the podcast, 463 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 6: and it really gives listeners the opportunity to get to 464 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 6: know you so much more than what we see on 465 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 6: random Pump Goole. Congratulations on your sobriety. You should be 466 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 6: so proud of yourself. My question actually comes from some 467 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 6: of the content you've shared with us, as I believe 468 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 6: it can use in life too. If you mentioned with 469 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 6: sobriety you live one day at a time. For people 470 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 6: like myself, I need to live more in the moment. 471 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 6: You cut down on stress and anxiety and often try 472 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 6: to practice living in the moment, but it's so hard. 473 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 6: So in a future podcast, could you speak a little 474 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 6: more about best practices with that even if people aren't sober. 475 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 6: I think it's a great way to think and would 476 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 6: love to learn more about how to practice this on 477 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 6: a daily basis, if possible, how to get in that 478 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 6: mindset or whatnot. Thanks for taking that question, wishing you 479 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 6: and open the very best. 480 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: Oh sorry, I love that question. It's strange because I 481 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: feel like it's easier in sobriety to take it one 482 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: day at a time. And that may not be for everybody, 483 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: but like for me, it's easier for me to stay 484 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: present in my sobriety than it is for me to 485 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: stay present like in life. My anxiety is high right now, 486 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: and I just have a lot of stress and I'm 487 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: dealing with a lot, and I feel like sometimes it 488 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: does take away from me living in the moment and 489 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: enjoying things. And I have a lot of worry. 490 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 4: So I wish that I could like. 491 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: Give my advice on how to live more in the moment. 492 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: But I mean, I am struggling with it too, especially 493 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: right now where I think like a million steps ahead 494 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: and I'm worried about the unknown of everything. Think just 495 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: like trying to keep my head above water. And I 496 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 1: feel like there's so many times where I do like 497 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 1: interviews or I'm talking to people and I'm doing Instagram 498 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: posts and I'm like I'm doing great, like I'm great, 499 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: but I'm like I'm struggling. So I would also like 500 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: to know how to stay present and try to not 501 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: worry and fight anxiety and depression and things like that, 502 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: and I know mine's situational. But if anyone has advice, 503 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 1: because I love that question. So if anyone is listening 504 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: and you have advice, I would love for you to 505 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: call in and help me as well. 506 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 3: Fuck sorry, don't be sorry. I think that was a 507 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 3: great question. And you see how people are dealing with 508 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 3: it every day. You are this person is I mean 509 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 3: I everyone is, and it's just some way worse than others. 510 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 3: I mean, we won't get into you know, I couldn't 511 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 3: be dealing personally with you know, all the stuff you 512 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 3: deal with your like I said, have said before. One 513 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 3: of the strongest people I know. I know, it's like 514 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 3: how do you live in the moment? And I feel 515 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,719 Speaker 3: like so many people have anxiety, stress, depression. It's like 516 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 3: all three every day just getting out of bed. For people, 517 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 3: it's like wake up. 518 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: What am I? 519 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 3: Why am I getting out of bed? 520 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: You know, and you start the grind all over again. 521 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: It's fucking exhausting. 522 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard, I've read and heard, you know, because 523 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 3: I don't she wouldn't mind me saying this, but I 524 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 3: have a sister who deals with the same things. Extreme anxiety. 525 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,719 Speaker 3: Has been in the hospital because of panic attacks, and 526 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 3: and there are and they sound cliche and and like 527 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 3: I've said them to her before and she's like, that 528 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 3: doesn't like that's not gonna help. It's but because they're 529 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 3: so simple. But sometimes you literally just have to breathe 530 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 3: and Okay, I literally you could start from like, think 531 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 3: about the things you're thankful for. Again. I know so 532 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 3: many people are gonna sound be frustrated because it's like no, no, 533 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 3: like I can't right now. But I've heard when you 534 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 3: let yourself and you force yourself sometimes it helps being 535 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 3: in the moment. Okay, I right now have I'm healthy 536 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 3: or I right now have literally you could say like 537 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 3: I have my arms and legs, I'm thankful for that. 538 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 3: I have my legs, I can walk, I have a 539 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 3: roof over my head. And sometimes you have to because 540 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 3: it's like if I don't start with like the smallest 541 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 3: I have a chair that I can sit in and 542 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 3: eat breakfast right then it's like you're gonna go crazy. 543 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: You have just moments of gratitude, yes, when you take 544 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: your when you have a those dark moments, M yeah, no, 545 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 1: and I. 546 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:04,479 Speaker 4: Agree with you. 547 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: But there's some days where you're just like fuck everything, yeah, 548 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: and I know that I'll go through cycles and yes, 549 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: no matter if I'm in a great head space or 550 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: it's kind of just a lower vibration type of day, 551 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: I know that you will not break me. I know 552 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: that everything will be okay. But there's always a small 553 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 1: part of me that goes to the what ifs, and 554 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: that can become traumatizing. Yeah, and take me to a 555 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: place that I don't want to go to. 556 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,959 Speaker 3: So, I mean, how many of us wake up and 557 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 3: we feel like ten years ago was literally just yesterday? 558 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 3: I know, even thinking about the pandemic, what that was 559 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 3: that started two years ago. So it's almost like, if 560 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 3: you have the capacity and the energy to remind yourself, 561 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 3: I have to live in this moment because I'm going 562 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 3: to wake up tomorrow and it's going to be ten 563 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 3: years down the road. 564 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: I know. And then that opens a whole new can 565 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: of worms for me, where then I start having I 566 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: go on my guilt trip of all the moments that 567 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: I wasted worrying. 568 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 3: M And it's such a it's a vicious cycle because 569 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 3: then as you're on in the guilt trip, worried about 570 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 3: all the moments you wasted, you're making more moments that 571 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 3: you're wasting. Yeah, I know. 572 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: So, as Medina said to me, he was like, you 573 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: have got to allow the universe to do what it 574 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: is prepared to do, right, You've got to fight the anxiety. 575 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: He's like this thing with Chris Medina, He's I've said 576 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: this many times, he's very gifted. He was telling me 577 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: things that I was doing that he wouldn't know that 578 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: I was doing. No one would know that I was 579 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: doing these things. Yeah, you know, it's like an internal 580 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: thing that I do to myself. And he was like 581 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: on the money, and he said, you've got to stop. 582 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: You will be just fine. I told you that the 583 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: moment I did your podcast back in September, you will 584 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: be okay. Let the universe and time catch up with 585 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: what you know. Yeah, because it will. 586 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 3: It will. 587 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: And it's so. 588 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 3: I could see it being so frustrating, and it is 589 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 3: so frustrating when you sit there and you have to think, 590 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 3: remind yourself the universe, it'll be fine, This too shall 591 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 3: pass blah blah blah blah blah, over and over again 592 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 3: for days, for weeks, for months, for years. It's like, 593 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 3: oh my god. When though, when you get to a 594 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 3: point where you're like, but when though, and it's frustrating. 595 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 596 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: Well, like my best friend Madison said to me, she 597 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: was like, you don't get to tell the universe what 598 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: timeline it should be on. Yeah, you don't have that right. 599 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: It's so true. I'm like, oh shit. 600 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, because all this this time, it's like it's like 601 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 3: a blink of an eye, Like the universe is like, yeah, 602 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 3: a couple of years, relax, And for us it's like 603 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 3: every day is torture and we just have to learn 604 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 3: to deal with it for whatever we're trying to get 605 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 3: toward or work toward or And it's like, but it 606 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 3: will all happen when it's supposed to. And it's the 607 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 3: hardest thing. And I like, get I give credit to 608 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 3: the people who don't live with that, huge credit to 609 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 3: those people. I talked to a friend about it this 610 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 3: past weekend who's like, no, no, no, I don't believe 611 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 3: in a god. I don't believe in a higher power. 612 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 3: I get things happen that we can't explain. I just 613 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 3: don't believe in that. If I want something to happen 614 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 3: in my life, I do that myself. And I was like, 615 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 3: it gave me anxiety because I was like, good, good 616 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 3: for you, because if I had to live my life 617 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,959 Speaker 3: based on me, do you know how much pressure that 618 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 3: is me? I'm gonna my life is determined one hundred 619 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 3: percent by me, and I can't trust that like things 620 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 3: will happen when they're supposed to. 621 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: I'm done. 622 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 3: I'm not getting out of bed tomorrow. 623 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: If that was my brain live that way. 624 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 3: I couldn't live that way. 625 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: There's no fucking way. 626 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 3: So I mean, I do give credit to people who 627 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 3: are like, no, I'm getting like I make my life. 628 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 3: That's one way to look at it. I'm very well. 629 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: Of course I don't sit here and go. The universe 630 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: is gonna point me in all the direction rights and 631 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: God has my back. No, Obviously, if I want, like 632 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: I believe in God, right, well, God gave me a 633 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: brain and fucking use it. And if I want something 634 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: to happen, I'm going to make it happen. But the 635 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: universe will step in when something is not right. So 636 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: if something feels like you're banging your head against a 637 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: brick wall, take a different. The universe is saying, I'm 638 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: trying to show you that it's not working, So use 639 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: your brain that God gave you to pick a different route. 640 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: I'm telling you. You don't listen to that, you end up 641 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: in situations that you should. 642 00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 5: Not be in. 643 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 3: Yes, And I always say in my prayers every night, 644 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 3: because my belief is like I have I'm healthy, and 645 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 3: i have the brain I have and whatever to work 646 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 3: my ass off, and I'm not gonna get rewarded unless 647 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 3: i work my ass off so I can. My mindset 648 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 3: is like if I work my ass off and do 649 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 3: everything I possibly can, then there's no like I don't 650 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 3: have an excuse, like things don't come to me. And 651 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 3: I'm like I can say, but I'm trying. I'm doing 652 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 3: everything I can right, So in my prayers I always say, 653 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 3: please continue, like to guide me if I'm if I'm 654 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 3: not on the right path, please like, if I'm not 655 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 3: hearing you, like speak a little louder, please help if 656 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 3: I'm not on the right path or I'm like maybe 657 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 3: veering off, or please guide me back on, Like if 658 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 3: there's a door that should be opening, please help me 659 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 3: see it, just all the things that like I kind 660 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,959 Speaker 3: of put it. If I'm not seeing it or hearing it, 661 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 3: please like help a little but really overall, just like 662 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 3: continue to guide me, and I will pray to like 663 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 3: my grandpa and my uncle and like. 664 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: Of course those are your guides. Yeah, yeah, those are 665 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: those are your every days. Yeah, it's crazy right, yeah, No, 666 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: I could not live without believing in the higher power. 667 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: I mean, if you don't, that's the only thing. I'm 668 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: not pushing anything on you. But good lord, there are 669 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: moments where I'm like, this moment is going to break 670 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: me and I got to hand it off, exact, hunt 671 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: it to something greater. 672 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, handing Get me out. 673 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: On that note, Let's cut to a short little break 674 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: and then do you have more voicemails for me? 675 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 6: Just? 676 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: Yes, we do. I want to hear them all. We'll 677 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: be right back. We have time for one more. 678 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, hey, Lala, this calling from Granberry, Texas. And I 679 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 7: need some advice. I do not drink, and I have 680 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,959 Speaker 7: a really hard time going out to social events about 681 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 7: people bringing it up and dry attention to it and 682 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 7: just making it awkward in general. I know that I've 683 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 7: heard you say before that you have a lot of 684 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 7: fun when you still go out and everyone's drinking, And 685 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 7: I just want to I know your secret. 686 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 6: What do you do? 687 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,240 Speaker 7: How do you get people to just stop talking about 688 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 7: it and have a good time. Can't wait to listen. 689 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: Oh babe, I love this question. You know what, I 690 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: don't think that anyone should. If you go out and 691 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: you're sober and you feel like being in a situation 692 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: where people are drinking is not for you, don't force it. 693 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm I'm lucky and I also my 694 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 1: and this is this is gonna come off weird, but 695 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: this is what the very first person that I went 696 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 1: into when I got sober, who's one of my angels, said, 697 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: you're a unicorn. This is not normal for you. And 698 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: if at any point in time it doesn't work for 699 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: you anymore, I want you to listen to that. It's 700 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: worked for me so far. I'm okay going to wineries. 701 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: I'm okay going into a bar. My mind goes to 702 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 1: a place where it's like, this is my life. I 703 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: have so much to lose, and I for sure am 704 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: not going to lose use everything over a fucking drink. 705 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: It's not happening. If you are the type of person 706 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: where you don't have fun and you're triggered by places 707 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: like that, don't go. Because there were times at the 708 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: very beginning of my sobriety where I was like, it's 709 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,280 Speaker 1: just not a good idea for me to For some reason, 710 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: I'm feeling it in my gut, I shouldn't go to 711 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: this bar tonight with my friends. Right I'm not feeling 712 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: triggered right now, but my gut is telling me steer clear, 713 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: and I wouldn't go. That's good. Yeah. So I don't 714 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: even know how to tell someone to not because I 715 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: have people that I sit in rooms with who have 716 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,720 Speaker 1: been sober, you know, ten twenty years, who still say 717 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: if I go into a bar, I'm gonna be triggered 718 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: to drink. 719 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 720 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: So I think it's just a matter of I don't 721 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: think you can teach how to get into that zone. 722 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 3: And this is coming from a non sober person. But 723 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:03,240 Speaker 3: I and I know you said that you don't drink. 724 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 3: You just put I don't drink. I don't know if 725 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 3: you shared that with a ton of people or if 726 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 3: you're making the decision now. But I have nights I 727 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 3: go out and I don't want to drink. People are 728 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 3: annoying and they'll say, especially since I'm not sober, and 729 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 3: they'll go, no, no, no, just have a drink, Just 730 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 3: take a shot and I get annoyed with it, and 731 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 3: I'm sick of like it taking up twenty minutes of 732 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 3: the conversation. So what I do is I just trick them. 733 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 3: I literally go up. I wait till they're in another conversation. 734 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 3: I go up to the bar and I say, hey, 735 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 3: could I have a drink in a cocktail glass? Could 736 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 3: you make it grapefruit juice? And usually I get soda 737 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 3: water and I literally pretend I'm drinking all night, and 738 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,280 Speaker 3: that is unfortunately sometimes, and I know it's like shallow 739 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 3: and not as deep. Sometimes that's just what I have 740 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 3: to do. It's annoying. People are annoying, especially when they 741 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 3: get more drunk and they go shot shot, I'll go, no, 742 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 3: I don't want to puke all over everyone, so I'm 743 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 3: not going to take a shot, and it would embarrass me. 744 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 3: And if I took a shot, I would throw up 745 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 3: all over you. I'm sipping on my cocktail and it's 746 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 3: not a cocktail, it's none alcoholic. 747 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: That's so strange to me, though, what that people are 748 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,720 Speaker 1: because if you say you're not drinking tonight, there's pure pressure. 749 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what, when when people ask me 750 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,760 Speaker 1: if I want to drink and I say no, I'm good, 751 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 1: and then they say are you sure, and then I 752 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 1: say no, I'm sober. I've been sober for three and 753 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: a half years. They automatically disengage. So maybe if even 754 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,720 Speaker 1: if you just if if you don't drink, you're enorman, 755 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: you've just decided you don't want to drink, or you 756 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: have a drinking problem. I say, just go straight to 757 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: the sober just go I'm sober. I'm sober, right And 758 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: if they freak disengage unless. 759 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 3: You're with friends that know, like what are you talking about? No, 760 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 3: you're not, you were just drinking last night, then you 761 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 3: can fake fake it. 762 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 1: But even now I still have I still ask. 763 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 3: For like, uh, mocktailary a. 764 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: I don't love mocktails, you know, because sugar to sugary. 765 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: I just say, give me sparkling water in a short 766 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: glass with a line right, looks like you're drinking a 767 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: vodkis soda? No, yeah, asking you anything. 768 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 3: And either way, I do it anyway, because if I 769 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 3: am drinking, I drink waters in between, like soda waters. Yeah, 770 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 3: So I'll just do it anyway. 771 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 1: At that party that we went to a while ago, 772 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: at Tom Tom do you remember. 773 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 3: Yes you forget or the yeah the birthday. 774 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: I had so many people yeah, being like, you're not 775 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: fucked up right now, and you're like, or you weren't 776 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 1: fucked up last night. I'm like, okay, first of all, 777 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 1: is that an insult? I'm like, no, I haven't had 778 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: a drink in yeah, over three and a half years. Yeah, 779 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: So I think if you just keep that in your 780 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,919 Speaker 1: hand and you look like you're enjoying yourself, yeah, people 781 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 1: are gonna be like she was worse. 782 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 3: Yeah or no exactly. And at that party, someone just 783 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 3: to let anyone know who knows me, if you I'm sorry, 784 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 3: but if you buy me a shot, it never goes 785 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,879 Speaker 3: in my mouth, it goes over my shoulder, it goes 786 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 3: on the floor. I'm not kidding. It's just happens. 787 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: And so all the alcohol, the alcoholic in me has 788 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,399 Speaker 1: so much anxiety that I just. 789 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 3: I know, I have been at a long time ago. 790 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 3: I went to Vegas with some people for like the 791 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 3: Super Bowl, and we got like a table in one 792 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,879 Speaker 3: of the clubs and they got bottle service. I think 793 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 3: bottle service is dumb. It's so it's so so stupid, 794 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 3: so expensive. But they got patrone every shot, you guys 795 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 3: went on the floor, which is like rude of me. 796 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 3: I did have paper towels and tried to soak it up. 797 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 3: But every shot they tried to make me take when 798 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,959 Speaker 3: over my shoulder or on the floor, and so much 799 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,720 Speaker 3: so that I'm sure hundreds of dollars of liquor was wasted. 800 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 3: But here's the thing. They say, take a shot, Take 801 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 3: a shot. I say, I don't want one. I don't 802 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 3: want one. Take a shot in. 803 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to. 804 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 3: I don't want to go back and forth. I don't 805 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 3: want to. There are just moments where I don't want 806 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 3: to stand up for myself and make a point. And 807 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, your fault. You're gonna tell me to 808 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 3: take a shot. You just spent this much on this bottle. 809 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 3: Guess where it's going on the ground. You should have 810 00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 3: listened to me when I said no. 811 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: Thanks, speaking of bottle service, just ye, so do you remember, oh, 812 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,399 Speaker 1: so yesterday at the party, I was like, guys, there 813 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 1: was a girl who was These women were all very accomplished. 814 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of them. If I were to 815 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: say who was there, you would know who I'm talking about. 816 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: But there was one girl who was a therapist. And 817 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 1: I asked, because you know, I'm really holding on to 818 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: this guy who went to the strip club, like I 819 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: know that it's not right, but like I had to 820 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,839 Speaker 1: ask for a second, third, fourth opinion. And the girl 821 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 1: was like, so tell me how it went down. I 822 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 1: was like, it was his birthday. I told him happy birthday. 823 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: We texted whatever. I went to bed. The next day, 824 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: I wake up. It was like mourning for me after nude. 825 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,879 Speaker 1: For him, he said, sorry, I was out all night. 826 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:44,879 Speaker 1: We went to a strip club. 827 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:45,240 Speaker 5: Lol. 828 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 1: And she goes no. She goes, no, that's not the 829 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: energy you want, that's not the vibration you need with 830 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: what you've been through. 831 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 4: No. 832 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: And I said, I'm listening to you, but all I 833 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 1: could think about with the bottle service, what you just 834 00:41:58,800 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: said being stupid. 835 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 4: Okay, me back to thinking about this guy. 836 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 1: Okay, So on his Instagram the night before he was 837 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: in a restaurant with sunglasses on. Okay, So, when he 838 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 1: tells me he's at this he went to a strip club, 839 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,240 Speaker 1: Me and my sober state of mind could just picture 840 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 1: a fucking stupid They all look right like drunk, thinking 841 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,840 Speaker 1: they're fucking cool with their stupid fucking sung glasses on 842 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: at night, you know, and like fit inside with pitch black, 843 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,919 Speaker 1: with like women shaking their asses. Talented women by the way, Yes, 844 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: the strippers don't look stupid. No, you look stupid. 845 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 3: You look stupid. 846 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 1: I just can't stay with the bottle service. When I 847 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,359 Speaker 1: go into a club and I'm sober and I see 848 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: these people and they bring out like the sparklers and 849 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,839 Speaker 1: the champagne, and they're thinking they're so cool. They got 850 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 1: their phones. 851 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:44,760 Speaker 4: Out for the GRAM. 852 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, you all look like I'm living. I see 853 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: it for what it is. Yes, right, I'm sober. Yeah, 854 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 1: you look dumb. 855 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 3: You're like, oh, you just spent eight hundred dollars on it, 856 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 3: one hundred dollars bottle of liquor. 857 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: Am I supposed to am? 858 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 3: I supposed to think that's cool. 859 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: Nope, But they all do. And they're like they're like 860 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: you see them filming themselves, like yeah, yeah, show the chain. 861 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 4: I'm like, I hate all of. 862 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 3: The cool bro Oh my god, No, that's that's true. 863 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 4: It angers me. 864 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 3: That's why I love the Instagram account influencers in the wild. 865 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 3: Do you follow it? Oh my god, La, it's you 866 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 3: know what you're talking it's that ship. It's videos of 867 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 3: people just like or like dancing. They'll be dancing on 868 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,720 Speaker 3: the beach and it's girls and and it's a video 869 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 3: and they'll be like dancing and then and then the 870 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 3: music stops and they like check it and it's so funny. 871 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 1: It's mortifying. 872 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 3: It's mortified. You go through TikTok and you see these 873 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 3: like cool videos of women dancing, but you never really think, 874 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 3: like what set does actually look like. They're on the beach. 875 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 3: There's beach goers laying trying to enjoy and they're like 876 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 3: kicking stand in their face. 877 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, can I tell you what it's like. Can 878 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 1: I see people on planes? Yeah, they're in first class 879 00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: and they're like you see the picture, and they're like 880 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 1: lounged out, they take a selfie, They've got like their 881 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 1: glass of champagne. You're like, oh my god, so chic. 882 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,360 Speaker 1: But then I transport myself to walking down the aisle 883 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 1: and watching that person do that, and I'm like, you're 884 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 1: a fucking idiot. You look dumb, Like no, and I'm sorry, 885 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: I refuse to look stupid just for one Instagram post, just. 886 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 3: For one You have to think about what's behind the photo. 887 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 3: You guys, it's like another. 888 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 1: I'm so bad at Instagram. 889 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 3: Well it's the other thing too. It's like, I love 890 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 3: there's TikTok accounts that are like the real shot or whatever, 891 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,919 Speaker 3: and there's all these like gorgeous shots that influencers take 892 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 3: when they're like out of the country and they're on 893 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 3: this iconic like rock, and then you see a literal 894 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 3: hour and a half long line of people waiting to 895 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 3: get the shot on the rock, and it's like never 896 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 3: and it's just one shot on the rock, and then 897 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 3: they run away and then someone else stands on the 898 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 3: rock and it's like you see this iconic photo on Instagram, 899 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 3: but what you don't see is the and a half 900 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 3: line of people waiting to get this one shot on 901 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 3: this like rock and Bali or something whatever. 902 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Wow, we've hit a lot of notes 903 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 1: to you. I know, we have cried, We've spoken about sobriety, 904 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 1: we've spoken about idiots. 905 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 3: I know, I know you said two more voicemails, but 906 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 3: we have so many good ones. I think we save 907 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 3: the rest for later. 908 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 1: Let's save the rest for later. Okay, you guys, thank 909 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 1: you so much for tuning into another episode. Of give 910 00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 1: them Lalla podcast. I love you so much. Remember to 911 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 1: take your vitamins to not get what Ocean gave to me. 912 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,919 Speaker 1: Remember to wear your sunscreen because sun's out, buns out. 913 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: I want you guys to protect that skin. I love 914 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 1: you so much, Catch you next week. 915 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 3: Ah, with your cold, you sounded like Kurmit.