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Speaker 1: the FanDuel Sportsbook. Thanks to Mark Hackman for joining us

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Speaker 1: in the first hour. Big news there exciting news with Hawk.

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Speaker 1: You guys will have to go listen. And by you guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to Mikeya. It is he Taylor was there

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Speaker 1: for them. Mike Ya, welcome back from your trip. We'll

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Speaker 1: get to the NBA Opening night. Last night. That game

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Speaker 1: ended in the most boring fashion possible, with shake Gilgius

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Speaker 1: Alexander draining two shots from the charity stripe in double overtime.

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Speaker 2: That's not exciting, mike Ya. How was your trip?

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Speaker 1: You went to Michigan, You went to the Big House,

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Speaker 1: I believe, and then Monday night football it was Lions

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Speaker 1: and Bucks for you.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: One of the bottom three trips I've ever done like this?

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Speaker 2: This really, this was.

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Speaker 3: Not good Michigan, Michigan. I consider myself to be a

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Speaker 3: Michigan football fan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: This it is the quiet hundred and ten thousand that

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Speaker 3: there ever is. You could literally sit next to somebody

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Speaker 3: and have a full conversation while Michigan is driving. It

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Speaker 3: is it is not It is not a great Uh,

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Speaker 3: it is not a great environment.

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Speaker 2: Taylor Mikey. Mikey.

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Speaker 4: If I blindfolded you during a Michigan game, and I said,

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Speaker 4: guess how many people are there? How many would you guess.

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Speaker 2: A second before you answer that?

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Speaker 1: Hold on, so you're putting the blindfold on before Mikey

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Speaker 1: a walks into the Big House for the first time,

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Speaker 1: and he has to make this guess just based on

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Speaker 1: the volume of noise.

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Speaker 5: Correct, probably after he's in his seat, because if he's

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Speaker 5: blindfolded in finding his seat, it's not going to be

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Speaker 5: a good experience, right, So after he sits down cloth,

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Speaker 5: somebody guides into his seat, puts on the blindfold.

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Speaker 3: Busy speaking of which side out, I'm a big man.

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Speaker 3: Don't know if you guys know this. Don't know if

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Speaker 3: I'm breaking news here. So when I buy tickets to

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Speaker 3: a stadium, I buy aisle seats. I like to be

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Speaker 3: able to not have to squeeze between people, and I

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Speaker 3: buy aisle seats. Okay, I'm considerate that way to you

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Speaker 3: and everybody else who goes. Do you know what Michigan does?

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Speaker 3: Do you know where seat one is? For every second?

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Speaker 3: It's into the direct middle of the thing. So I

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Speaker 3: bought seats one through four, thinking you know what I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna do. I'm gonna buy myself. I passed on so

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Speaker 3: many tickets because I'm like, Nope, not an aisle seat.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna beside there they do, that's how they do it.

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Speaker 3: I kept saying, no, I have I have seat one,

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Speaker 3: and they're like, yeah, it's all the way in the middle.

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Speaker 3: And I look and there's there's six people my size

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Speaker 3: just sitting around.

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Speaker 2: It's a middle opening like that.

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Speaker 5: The Midwesterners do it, Michigan itself or just like all

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Speaker 5: of college football.

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Speaker 4: Who's the day good footballs inside out.

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Speaker 2: Inside out. Yes, it's built from the inside.

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Speaker 1: But I think he should qualify for a refund. I

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Speaker 1: think if you buy a seat one and it's not

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Speaker 1: an aisle seat.

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Speaker 2: You should be refunded. Like that's a scam. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: Like it is. He thought he was sitting in the aisle.

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Speaker 2: That's terrible.

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Speaker 3: I'm not even close to the aisle.

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Speaker 2: I'm in the direct middle of the section, sixteen seats

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Speaker 5: So one person sitting next to you is somebody from

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Speaker 5: your party. Rights, there's somebody sitting next to you that

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Speaker 5: you're just like.

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Speaker 3: That was not somebody from my part, and it's one

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Speaker 3: of the like he looks at me and I thought,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what to tell you. Man, This wasn't

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Speaker 3: how I planned it either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now let's get back to Taylor's question.

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Speaker 1: You're blind folded, okay, and you're walking into the Big

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Speaker 1: House and you sit down at your seat, So wou'd

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Speaker 2: And you have to guess how many.

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Speaker 1: People are at the game just based on the volume

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Speaker 3: I will tell you know what it felt like a

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Speaker 3: regular season baseball game. Really, that's the best way I

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Speaker 3: can put it. It was. There's ambient noise, but there's

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Speaker 3: like you could have a conversation. I could turn to

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Speaker 3: you during Yankees Orioles in June and be like, so.

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Speaker 2: What do you think we should do after this? You'd

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Speaker 2: be like, I don't know, I'll figure it out. Same thing.

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Speaker 2: Day game or night game. Well, of course it's a

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Speaker 2: night game. I mean, okay, So you're saying that it

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Speaker 1: Ay a regular season baseball game when you were sitting

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Speaker 1: inside what is called the Big House.

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Speaker 3: Big House, big dud, just gonna say it, big dud.

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Speaker 2: Prison. Yeah. Yeah, but things got better because you went

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Speaker 2: to Detroit afterwards.

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Speaker 3: No, no, they didn't. You know, they didn't. They didn't,

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Speaker 3: stew And I'll just say this Detroit. I'll say this,

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Speaker 3: Lions fans they don't love the Lions as much as

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Speaker 3: they hate the refs. And every single call and non

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Speaker 3: at that at one point I had to say, you guys,

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Speaker 3: you know you're you're winning the game twenty one to nine.

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Speaker 3: It's going your way. I don't think we need to

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Speaker 3: boo everything. And someone said, when you been as kicked

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Speaker 3: as we've been for as long as we've been, we

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Speaker 3: don't know how to stop, and Stu, I saw my future.

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Speaker 3: I saw at some point in the next seventeen decades,

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Speaker 3: know how to handle it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's.

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Speaker 3: What's going on. The Lions fans told you, we don't

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Speaker 3: know how to handle this.

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Speaker 2: We don't know how to handle being good. They're so

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Speaker 2: used to buoying they just keep doing it.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I'm still you're never They're never going to get

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Speaker 2: At least at least the Lions had some moments. Hey

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Speaker 2: we got I said, seventeen decades. Come on, we can

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Speaker 2: accidentally fall into one.

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Speaker 1: Fan bases are so funny and so fickle. We had

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Speaker 1: this discussion me Intailor died with Chris Long yesterday. No

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Speaker 1: one has had a better football rude over the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years in the Philadelphia Eagles, and yet they

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Speaker 1: still want to get rid of their quarterback and still

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Speaker 1: want to fire their coach. It's like, it's unbelievad. You

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Speaker 1: just can't please a fan base. But I would tell

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Speaker 1: Lions fans try being a Jet fan, like try that.

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Speaker 1: Try that on for size, because do you know what

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Speaker 1: we would give to have your head coach, your quarterback,

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Speaker 1: your running back, all your wide receivers, your retire organization.

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Speaker 2: I'd play by games at.

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Speaker 5: Detroit if you can just make a one a one

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Speaker 5: for one trade and who's the Lions owner, It doesn't matter,

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Speaker 5: trade Woody Johnson for that owners who that's who you'd want,

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Speaker 5: because Woody Johnson is putting it's funny, a guy named

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Speaker 5: after two penises is putting his ass out there again,

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Speaker 5: showing that he doesn't really know what it means to

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Speaker 5: build a football team.

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Speaker 1: Taylor put it over the poll. Is Woody Johnson named

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Speaker 1: after two penises? Please put that just exactly like that,

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Speaker 1: because he's right, I can't think of anyone else who's

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Speaker 1: another Woody.

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Speaker 4: So looks like the lion's owner is Shyla Ford hamp

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Speaker 4: a descendant of both the Ford and Firestone families.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'd trade a Ford for a Woodie and

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Speaker 5: a heartbeat. And So, Taylor, what happened? What did Woody

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Speaker 5: Johnson say? Because the quote, if you just put it

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Speaker 5: never watch the football game in his entire life.

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Speaker 2: Dick Pole.

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Speaker 4: So Woody Johnson is speaking at meetings and the question

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Speaker 4: is basically, why does Aaron Glenn deserve more credit? Why

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Speaker 4: why should Aaron Glenn not be on the hot seat

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Speaker 4: for his performances this year? What he Johnson's response was,

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Speaker 4: it's hard when you have a quarterback with a rating

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Speaker 4: with a quarterback like that, you're going to see similar results.

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Speaker 4: If we could just complete a pass, it would look good.

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Speaker 2: Is this box score? Woody? Is that what this is?

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Speaker 2: Because he's just like.

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Speaker 5: You don't understand whoa when he's got this rating, you know,

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Speaker 5: like it takes a process to.

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Speaker 2: Get to that rating.

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Speaker 5: You have to have running backs, you have to have

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Speaker 5: an offensive line, you have to have a game plan,

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Speaker 5: you have to have receivers.

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Speaker 2: Like you have to have an owner.

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Speaker 5: All we need to do is plug in a better

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Speaker 5: statistical plea percentage and.

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Speaker 2: We'd be a great team. What the hell are you

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Speaker 2: talking about?

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Speaker 3: I feel like we have this conversation every few months,

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Speaker 3: or maybe just fifteen minutes ago. Woody Johnson is the

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Speaker 3: problem with the Jets. Like people don't seem to realize.

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Speaker 3: They're like, oh, well, they can't get the quarterback right,

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Speaker 3: head coach right. The reason they can't get it right

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Speaker 3: is the owner. There isn't a worse owner in New

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Speaker 3: York and James Dolan resides there.

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Speaker 2: Like they have to realize this, what does he do

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Speaker 2: as an owner?

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Speaker 5: That's so terrible though, Mikey, because obviously you know he's

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Speaker 5: not responsible for everything, but if there's things you can

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Speaker 5: tie directly to him, please let me know.

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Speaker 2: He meddles.

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Speaker 3: He thinks you just said, he's box score Woody, but

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Speaker 3: he thinks he knows football. He wants to be involved

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Speaker 3: in decisions. He he is one of them. He is

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Speaker 3: he is the CEO but one of the biggest companies,

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Speaker 3: pharmaceutical companies. But his offices are in the Jets headquarters

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Speaker 3: because that's where he thinks he belongs. He thinks that's

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Speaker 3: where he should be. He thinks that's everything that he

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Speaker 3: belongs doing.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Mikey, the.

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Speaker 4: Most ironic part about Woody Johnson speaking to the media

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Speaker 4: yesterday was the consensus from Jets fans is, Hey, Woody

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Speaker 4: Johnson gotta get out of here. If you ask any

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Speaker 4: Jets fan, the first thing they'll tell you is how

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Speaker 4: bad an owner he is. And then when he was

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Speaker 4: asked about the fans and what he would say to

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Speaker 4: the fans. Our fans are the smartest fans in the

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Speaker 4: league because they know what's going on.

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Speaker 1: No with the dumbestrupt fan based in the entire team,

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Speaker 1: because he keep coming back for more every fucking year.

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Speaker 2: We keep coming back. We can't fire the owner. We're stuck.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing we could do. And Mike's right, We've talked

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Speaker 1: about this before.

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Speaker 2: Mikey.

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Speaker 1: The big problem with the New York Jets, and there

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Speaker 1: are many, but it starts at the top, and it

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Speaker 1: starts with this owner, Woody Johnson, because they had all

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Speaker 1: this suckiness and there has been just so much of it.

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Speaker 1: The one constant has been Woody Johnson. He's the guy

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Speaker 1: who has been there. Woody Johnson. It's like field of dreams.

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Speaker 1: You remember the great speech, the famous speech James Earl Jones.

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Speaker 1: He's he's walking around the field and he's talking about

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Speaker 1: the one concept around time has Yes.

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Speaker 2: The one constant throughout time.

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Speaker 1: Has been Woody Johnson and his UH and his particular

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it always hits me in the heart when you

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Speaker 4: Does it make you feel better about Aaron Glenn? Because

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Speaker 2: They pooped on him.

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Speaker 4: Does it make you feel better?

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Speaker 2: They would if they could. Does it make you feel.

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Speaker 4: Better that when asked about Aaron Glenn, what he Johnson said,

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Speaker 2: No, he crouches down, he says, to mere little.

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Speaker 1: Guy's walking in. It's O and five, it's owen six.

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Speaker 1: Do you think I'm still gonna get the hug today?

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Speaker 1: He's doing that because he respects him, because he's one

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Speaker 5: That er every week gat jets you think every week

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Speaker 2: And he's like, I know, I know these fans have

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Speaker 5: They've been soiling you in this entire time, not souring you,

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Speaker 2: Is it now an ass out hug? Is it now

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: What? What?

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Speaker 5: The difference now is it's not coming with the extra

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Speaker 2: It's more like a funeral hug. It's like, let me

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna tell you I'm disappointed at Aaron Glenn.

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Speaker 1: If I'm Aaron Glenn. You know what I say to

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Speaker 2: I don't want to hug.

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Speaker 1: I've done nothing, absolutely like literally nothing. We have zero wins,

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Speaker 2: Stop hugging me. I'm disappointed in Aaron Glenn. He should

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Speaker 5: You know who got a huge hug last night? A

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Speaker 5: back to Boston with the Panthers. This game was so

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Speaker 5: This game ended so crazy but they absolutely nailed the

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Speaker 5: tribute video. They had marshand out there crying. It lasted

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Speaker 5: want to say, it's called Fisk. It's a it's an

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Speaker 2: So nothing about Carlton Fisk.

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Speaker 5: No, no dancing, No, it's the Australian show.

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Speaker 2: And she works. She's a probate lawyer.

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Speaker 5: And then so her father wanted to do a cry

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Speaker 5: Of all, made me think of Greg Cody, like he'd

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Speaker 5: essentially what the tribute video is. It's you're sitting there

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Speaker 5: It's like, oh, that goes my life flashing before my eyes.

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Speaker 5: And I think a cry before you die package is

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Speaker 1: So what are you saying exactly we should do when

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Speaker 2: Like is that?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 5: No, what I'm saying is like, is let's just say,

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Speaker 2: I guarantee you'll be crying your.

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Speaker 2: That was done really well.

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Speaker 1: I'm not certain mine would be handled with such tender,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm surprised. You know, we're not friends, right,

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Speaker 5: What I I didn't him anything. I didn't send him

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Speaker 5: I got a quick question for you, and please, I

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Speaker 2: So I don't dislike Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 1: My frustration with Kevin Durant is when you're that good,

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Speaker 1: That's not the type of player that should go around

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Speaker 2: Eventually he would have won a title, and he would

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Speaker 1: He is a guy that doesn't need to go team

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Speaker 1: he didn't do that. He teamed up with a team

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Speaker 1: I lost a little bit of respect for him, not

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Speaker 1: I want to see the guy win a title, Okay,

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Speaker 2: Yet and he got there. Okay, when I said real quick,

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Speaker 5: So this season or this time with the Houston Rockets

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Speaker 5: to do. Now that he is the clear, let's just

445
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,960
Speaker 5: call him veteran leader. I don't think he's a leader

446
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,159
Speaker 5: on the team just yet. But the veteran leader on

447
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,520
Speaker 5: a team largely full of young guys. It's also shocking

448
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,679
Speaker 5: that Steven Adams is only I want to say, thirty one.

449
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,200
Speaker 5: He might have tried, but that's like five years younger

450
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 5: than Kevin Durant, which he.

451
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,040
Speaker 2: Sticks out like a sore thumb in that starting lineup

452
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 2: by the way he does. I'll get to that in

453
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:33,640
Speaker 2: a second. He does not belong there.

454
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:39,800
Speaker 5: But where Kevin Durant didn't have to lead in Golden State,

455
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,159
Speaker 5: in fact, he just had to try to fit in

456
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 5: and not get angry that the fans like Steph Moore,

457
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:48,199
Speaker 5: and you know, you go to Brooklyn and it's this auto, huge,

458
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:53,440
Speaker 5: pressurized situation with James Harden and Kyrie Irving almost taking

459
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 5: the fun out of basketball frankly, and that obviously didn't

460
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:56,200
Speaker 5: work out.

461
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 2: And then you got the Phoenix situation where it was

462
00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,160
Speaker 2: just a poor.

463
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,399
Speaker 5: Organization, poorly put together team and never really had a

464
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 5: chance to be honest. Now you've got young stars around him,

465
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,120
Speaker 5: but he's clearly the guy that has to be sort

466
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 5: of the overwhelming force when he can be, but also

467
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 5: that leader to tell these guys, hey, you've seen my interviews,

468
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 5: you've watched me on these you know, documentaries, I know

469
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 5: what I'm talking about.

470
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 2: I'm going to be straight up with you. Just follow me.

471
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:23,399
Speaker 2: We're good.

472
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 5: And I love that about him and I want to

473
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 5: see that translate into the leadership rule. I want to

474
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 5: see him do that with this team. And last night,

475
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 5: unfortunately it was only game one, right, it was just

476
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,119
Speaker 5: a bad start to it. A lot of the things

477
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 5: you didn't really love their. First of all, it didn't

478
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 5: seem like he could take lou Dort like that was

479
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 5: kind of jarring to me. It's like, not only can

480
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 5: they not get him the ball, but even when he

481
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,159
Speaker 5: has the ball, can't really do anything against Dort in

482
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 5: the Dorcher chamber. But the other parts about it where

483
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 5: just like he sort of settled that sort of he

484
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 5: settled for a three late in a very critical possession

485
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,439
Speaker 5: when Cason Wallace was closing out him. He could have

486
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 5: just had a one dribble pull up. There wasn't the

487
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 5: best obviously fouled Shay on that last attempt when all

488
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 5: he needed to do was stay down and make that

489
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 5: a difficult attempt, and then he had the timeout which

490
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,120
Speaker 5: should have cost him the game because he clearly called

491
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 5: the timeout that they didn't have with time remaining. And

492
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 5: those are the little details where it's just like, all right,

493
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 5: let's be honest, Katie. You should know that more than

494
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 5: anybody else on the floor. You're the veteran there. Let's

495
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 5: work out those little details. Let's make sure that the

496
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 5: game is like secondary to you. It's so easy be

497
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,239
Speaker 5: the leader first, and I think if he does that,

498
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 5: this team can win a championship this year, next year, whatever.

499
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 5: The whole no point guard thing's not gonna work, but

500
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 5: they can win it. But it's exactly the role that

501
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 5: you want him to be.

502
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: In, right, the guy that gets the team that's close

503
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: to winning a title, gets them over the top and

504
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 1: wins them an actual title with his leadership and encore

505
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 1: play as well, correct.

506
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 2: All of it like the total package.

507
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 5: Even at this age, the total package ends to as

508
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 5: little bonus who knocked out the Rockets from the playoffs

509
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 5: last year?

510
00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 2: The Warriors.

511
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 5: Oh and so Durant, now, can we go back to

512
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 5: last year and fillin's two gots real quick before we

513
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 5: start this season, because.

514
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 2: Okay, see won the championships, dude.

515
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, boring, that's why. Yeah, just like last night's game, winning.

516
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 2: It with two shots at the foul line. Kevin Durant

517
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 2: could well, he did cost him that game.

518
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: Right, he did multiple times thinking like, don't eat, don't

519
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: ease into this transition, don't ease into the role they

520
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 1: brought you in to win a title. You bring Kevin

521
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: Durant in, you give him the two year extension, You

522
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 1: give him that money because you think Kevin Durant is

523
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: the missing piece on a young team, to that team

524
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: getting over the top and getting to an NBA final

525
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 1: and winning said NBA final, don't he's into it?

526
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 2: Kevin like, be the.

527
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,199
Speaker 1: Leader, be the best guy on the team at be

528
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: there from day one until the end of the season.

529
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 2: Well, Taylor thinks he's just hard to root for in general.

530
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 4: Is a you've been Rockets, this Rockets that I'm watching

531
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 4: the game last Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant is not even

532
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 4: the best player on this Rocket team. I'm watching it.

533
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 4: Shng Goon's out there with thirty nine points. The essen

534
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 4: shng Goon stands for should build a team around him

535
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 4: and not Kevin Durant.

536
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, put that on the pole, Taylor Gill, just Alexander.

537
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 2: It's a wordy pole question, but put it on is

538
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 2: like it is. I love it well, Alpi is he's

539
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 2: their best player.

540
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,719
Speaker 5: And this is the crazy part about that big lineup,

541
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 5: Like he's out there as their relief at the point

542
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 5: guard spot because his man's not going to pressure.

543
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 2: That's not gonna work all season long.

544
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 5: Like I know, you know, Dorian Finney Smith when he's healthy,

545
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 5: would help, you know, Reed Shepherd getting probably too many

546
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 5: minutes already, but he could definitely help, just not in

547
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 5: crunch time like that Amen Thompson cramp situation was a

548
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 5: problem for the.

549
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 2: Right. And he's the point guard on that team. He's

550
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: might not be back.

551
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 5: He's an a cl he's older that that might not

552
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 5: They're probably gonna have to make a move for a

553
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 5: ball handler slash like combo guard.

554
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 2: They do have Aaron Holliday.

555
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 5: He's more of like a spot up shooters, shorter guy

556
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 5: can't really defend, so that probably like one point guard

557
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 5: move away. But as much as I love Steven Adams,

558
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 5: like when he's out there with Shane Gun and KD

559
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 5: and Jabari Smith, like.

560
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 2: He just it just doesn't feel right. It just doesn't

561
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 2: hit right. You have four guys who could jump through

562
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: the roof and him.

563
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, why would it feel right?

564
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 5: But Alpi is I mean, to Taylor's point, Alpi is

565
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 5: a star. Like that was a point there where KD

566
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 5: was like coming off the bench, just like how are

567
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 5: you doing this? He had the and one, he had

568
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 5: the pull up three, and it's just like, yo, that

569
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 5: guy is a super duper star if he's hitting catch

570
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 5: and shoot threes right now. And so that's that's kind

571
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 5: of why I love, like, get Steven Adams out of there,

572
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 5: let Alpi do some give him some room to maneuver,

573
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 5: and then get somebody who can handle the ball.

574
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 4: I love the pettiness from the OKC thunder fans where

575
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 4: it's like we we got over the hump, we won

576
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 4: the title, but Kevin Durant, when you come back here,

577
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 4: no matter what, we're gonna boo you.

578
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 5: He already cashed out on him on the trade and

579
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 5: won a championship.

580
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 2: It's like we still hate you and he should have

581
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 2: won five.

582
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 4: I mean, it's like Steven Adams can come back cult

583
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 4: favorite there. Carmelo Anthony is on the broadcast who played

584
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 4: one season in Oklahoma City. He's getting he's getting a

585
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 4: standing ovation. It's like Kevin Durant, who should have been

586
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 4: the best player in Okay Sees franchise history. It's like,

587
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 4: we we hate this guy until the end of time.

588
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 2: Does Harden get standing ovations when he goes back to Houston?

589
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: Not to Okay?

590
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 1: See not to Okay? See how about Westbrook Wes? Yes,

591
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: because he's State, He's the guy that stayed.

592
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 5: But this is classic left This is basically Lebron James

593
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 5: getting the loudest round of booze I've ever heard in

594
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 5: the building. Is the Junis Lagaskis getting the loudest applause

595
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 5: I've ever heard.

596
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 2: For a visiting fan, a visiting player. Uh is he?

597
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 5: It appears Luca he's help well, he needs something that

598
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 5: knee I think Luca.

599
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: This was my things on the team. This was my

600
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 2: take on on Luca going into the season.

601
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 5: Is like, skinny Luca can still get hurt, and skinny

602
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 5: Luca if he's running around there doing things he hasn't

603
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 5: been doing before, might twist and knee.

604
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 2: And it seemed like, you know, somebody ran into his knee.

605
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 5: I don't know which one it was when he was

606
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 5: playing over internationally this summer and now you know that one.

607
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 5: It just kind of looked like he pivoted the wrong

608
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 5: way and it, you know, hurt. Now if he's healthy,

609
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,479
Speaker 5: that Luca is still amazing, Like he doesn't have anybody

610
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 5: else on that team right now until Lebron comes back.

611
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 5: But that Luke Austin Reeves I think will find his way.

612
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 5: But it's just a constant reminder whenever I see him,

613
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 5: it's just.

614
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 2: Like, no matter what he looks like, this guy's incredible.

615
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 5: Like he's got that Steph Curry alien touch about him

616
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 5: every time he shoots the ball, and I don't know

617
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 5: how you stop that.

618
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: Sometimes he does love the Rockets tailor, It's like he

619
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: will not stop talking about the fucking rock How do

620
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 2: we get him the top talking about the Rockets.

621
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: It's game one where in the middle of the NFL

622
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 1: sees it.

623
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 4: Stu the Thunder are such overwhelming favorites this year plus

624
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 4: two to ten on the FanDuel of sportsbook. I looked

625
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 4: up they have six first round picks over the next

626
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 4: two years too.

627
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. They gamed the system.

628
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 5: It's like they saw it all coming and they're like,

629
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 5: don't worry about Kevin Durant leaving.

630
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: We will win so much starting in nine years,